actual division and multiplication symbols on the numpad (burgundy r2, fishbed, others)
no front print on the numpad (looks much cleaner)Ditto the above. But to clarify, do you mean sublegends instead or neither?
WS1 is SUPER white. perhaps look at other whites that GMK supplies. WS1 isn't bad, but I don't know how well it'll be received.This set was somewhat born out of the thread for the last BoW-ish set (GMK Pristine), where there was a strong segment pushing for WS1.
I second having the division, etc, symbols. No sublegends on the numpad would be my preference.Quoteactual division and multiplication symbols on the numpad (burgundy r2, fishbed, others)Quoteno front print on the numpad (looks much cleanerDitto the above. But to clarify, do you mean sublegends instead or neither?
Do I see a row 2 backspace over there?
I'd be all over it if it were L9. The idea is very good though. Godspeed.
This is what WS1 keycap set looks like http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3904226 (with V4 legends). They are sterile white, gives unnatural bleached look.
My personal preference is CP over WS1.
Stormtrooper was CP, and looks great. WS1 is super white. I have a feeling a lot of people haven't seen stormtrooper or know what a full ws1 set would look like. Just my opinion though. Pristine is L9 which is basically beige, not white.
I'd be all over it if it were L9. The idea is very good though. Godspeed.
So you mean, if it was gmk pristine, the set currently in stock on zfrontier?
Why would he run another pristine when it’s still available???
Do I see a row 2 backspace over there?
Any chance for scooped homing keys or split spacebars (including convex 2u)?
I second having the division, etc, symbols. No sublegends on the numpad would be my preference.
Are there any more kits planned? I could use norde support.
Far as suggestions go I'd just like to see smaller space bars somewhere; as in 2.25, 2.75 and 1.25, in my case.
I also suggest a spacebar kit as Vigrith mentioned.
Will this include the icon only mods in the render or text in the layout screenshot?Icon, sorry for the confusion. I'll bold that part in the original post.
definitely interested in this but i remember the runner for GMK pristine will follow up with WS1 with no mention of timeline?
WS1 is the best white. CP is more beige, GMK stormtrooper color is perfect (WS1)
Do we have any estimates on the GMK queue times? I mean, a lot of sets are coming out right now. Are we looking at a summer -19 release at this point for sets running now?
As for all the CP vs WS1 discussion, I'd like to push this forward as a WS1 set, though I agree CP looks stellar as well. Honestly, I initially got the renders in both CP and WS1 for comparison and opted to pursue WS1 becauseWS1 probably is fine, but I'd suggest taking a look at a WS1 set. Just to make sure and avoid an unexpected surprise at the end.
- I saw a lot of vocal demand here on GH
- It has never been run before afaik
- I thought the WS1 render looked awesome
Glad I can help this set! I will still help zumu until this project come to fruition :thumb:WS1 is the best white. CP is more beige, GMK stormtrooper color is perfect (WS1)
Stormtrooper is CP tho ;)
I was planning on including both scooped and bars. Also, there are 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars on the right side of the kit. Does this fulfill the split spacebar requirement?
I was planning on including both scooped and bars. Also, there are 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars on the right side of the kit. Does this fulfill the split spacebar requirement?
Definitely in if 2u spacebar is included; would be great for EM7, Alice, etc.
Too bad KBDfans just started selling this: https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys (https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys)Will Paper include a Norde kit as the KBD's?
Quoteactual division and multiplication symbols on the numpad (burgundy r2, fishbed, others)
This is the feedback I got from Jebbra as well. Is this the new standard? My goal was to keep things classic, but I'm not a numpad user so I am very receptive to people's opinions.
Quoteno front print on the numpad (looks much cleaner)Ditto the above. But to clarify, do you mean sublegends instead or neither?
I think the concept is really neat. Are the accent kits going to be like a classic #2 pencil and eraser color? I think that would be interesting. Or are you sticking to CMYK?
I was planning on including both scooped and bars. Also, there are 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars on the right side of the kit. Does this fulfill the split spacebar requirement?
Definitely in if 2u spacebar is included; would be great for EM7, Alice, etc.
great, now I have to stop thinking of buying that pristine. And dont need use shift key for split spacebar ;D
I think the concept is really neat. Are the accent kits going to be like a classic #2 pencil and eraser color? I think that would be interesting. Or are you sticking to CMYK?
The accent derived from CMYK printer's mark in offset printing industry. Because this set is white as paper, I thought any accent/novelties related to printing will be neat. Here's some example of printer's mark:
I know it will never happen, but maybe add WoB modifiers as a set? ;D
beyond the number of caps, what differences are there with the gmk stormtrooper? colors? Is this "less" white? (if i may say so)
My only suggestion is to change the Alt Gr to Alt on the WKL bottom row. It improves the symmetry for WKL and HHKB layouts, and euros already know that the key is Alt Gr anyway.
I know it will never happen, but maybe add WoB modifiers as a set? ;D
That would be cool! No plans to add that to this set, but hopefully GMK Originative runs soon enough that you can mix and match :)beyond the number of caps, what differences are there with the gmk stormtrooper? colors? Is this "less" white? (if i may say so)
Stormtrooper is CP base, and this is planned to be WS1. While it's relative, most people consider WS1 to be "more" white.
Are the renders "yellowed" already? or is it my *** display? worst, my eyes? :p
Here's what I submitted to GMK for quotes:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4qmlxtU.png)
The large base kit -- the preferred optionShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/8AJfScH.png)
The smaller base kit -- in case the large kit is too expensive or the community would rather have a separate 40's/spacebar kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/3E3TesJ.png)
The 40's/spacebar kit -- key selection was based off requests from the thread and from other 40's kits.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wjDtG3c.png)
The accent kit (credit to jebbra) -- current plan for colors is N5, MG1, CV, CR, and the legend is CR. GMK has said the CR on CR may not be visible, so we might have to tweak here. Also important to note is the choice of N5 over TU2 for cyan. The goal is to make it as close to actual print cyan as possible. Also, not the incorrect legends. We will fix this!
link to full album: https://imgur.com/a/be8IkrJ (https://imgur.com/a/gZNQz5w)
EDIT: Switched to GMK renders!
Shouldn't the accent kits also have icon mod enters?
The more I see of this the more I need it :thumb:
uhmmmm, nice! just a dumb question, is the white same as GMK Pristine?
uhmmmm, nice! just a dumb question, is the white same as GMK Pristine?
GMK Pristine uses the color code L9 for the white, which is closer to off-white beige. It's the same color used in the alphas for 9009. This set will use WS1 which is a much brighter white. There would be no point in running this set if it was the same as Pristine.
time to WS2 :p
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time to WS2 :p
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I'm going to be getting this. Am tempted to do a WS2 run like this in the future :p
OP
Out of recent BoW GMK sets we have the following whites
Stormtrooper - CP
Pristine - L9
Paper - WS1
Does anyone have an idea which white best matches existing OG GMK BoW sets from keyboards such as the G80-1838 or WEY series keyboards?MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ET0KPJi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/l8t3jdI.jpg)
Any update on how things went with GMK?
Any update on how things went with GMK?
Sorry for going silent on everyone. It seemed like interest had tapered off, so this got moved to the back burner.
I did get quotes back from GMK, and they seemed pretty reasonable given we're using default colors. To fully calculate the expected price, I'd need to work with some vendors. Speaking of which, if you're a vendor and interested, please feel free to reach out.
If there is renewed interest, I am totally ready to start moving the ball forward again. However, I am a bit concerned with a similar ePBT set shipping soon, and another mono-color set (Monochrome) getting reading to drop.
If there is renewed interest, I am totally ready to start moving the ball forward again. However, I am a bit concerned with a similar ePBT set shipping soon, and another mono-color set (Monochrome) getting reading to drop.
This is what WS1 keycap set looks like http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3904226 (with V4 legends). They are sterile white, gives unnatural bleached look.
My personal preference is CP over WS1.
Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
Glad to see continued support for the set!
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Glad to see continued support for the set!Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Glad to see continued support for the set!Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Great to hear and you can count me in. Finally, we get a proper pure black on pure white set. I was hesitant to get into Monochrome due to it being WS2 - very glad you kept with WS1. Having a GMK color ring on hand, I can state that WS1 is a pure white vs WS2 being more of a "smokers" white.
I'm on board! :thumb:
Glad to see continued support for the set!Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Great to hear and you can count me in. Finally, we get a proper pure black on pure white set. I was hesitant to get into Monochrome due to it being WS2 - very glad you kept with WS1. Having a GMK color ring on hand, I can state that WS1 is a pure white vs WS2 being more of a "smokers" white.
I'm on board! :thumb:
What does "smokers" white mean? Every photo I have seen has WS2 looking shades more white than WS1.
Glad to see continued support for the set!Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Great to hear and you can count me in. Finally, we get a proper pure black on pure white set. I was hesitant to get into Monochrome due to it being WS2 - very glad you kept with WS1. Having a GMK color ring on hand, I can state that WS1 is a pure white vs WS2 being more of a "smokers" white.
I'm on board! :thumb:
What does "smokers" white mean? Every photo I have seen has WS2 looking shades more white than WS1.
I found a picture off my cellphone that I had previously taken. Please consider the lighting.
https://i.imgur.com/lXATSx0.jpg
If you notice, WS2 is slightly off-white. If you aren't convinced, I'll take a picture with natural lighting when I get home and with a better camera than a cellphone camera.
Glad to see continued support for the set!Wondering about the cost on this one. Any updates?
The raw quotes from GMK looked very reasonable -- which makes sense given we are using only stock colors. I'm hesitant to release any $ amount until I can properly account for things like holding and distribution. To that end, I've reached out to a couple potential vendors to try to get things rolling again.
I thank everyone for their patience :bow:
Great to hear and you can count me in. Finally, we get a proper pure black on pure white set. I was hesitant to get into Monochrome due to it being WS2 - very glad you kept with WS1. Having a GMK color ring on hand, I can state that WS1 is a pure white vs WS2 being more of a "smokers" white.
I'm on board! :thumb:
What does "smokers" white mean? Every photo I have seen has WS2 looking shades more white than WS1.
I found a picture off my cellphone that I had previously taken. Please consider the lighting.
https://i.imgur.com/lXATSx0.jpg
If you notice, WS2 is slightly off-white. If you aren't convinced, I'll take a picture with natural lighting when I get home and with a better camera than a cellphone camera.
Thank you for the photo. I still see WS1 as more off white but I personally haven't seen the two side by side. I appreciate your input!
Yeah based on that, I think WS1 is better. It will be more consistent with GMK Originative as well, which I'll be mixing this set with.
Yes, this set seems like a no-brainer. Everyone needs something basic. The only thing that would sway me would be doing this with ePBT instead and switching to dyesub :P
R2 of ePBT BoW (icon mods and all) is currently running, FWIW. I have R1 and the white is perfectly bright without being glaring and the legends are good IMO. Only thing it doesn't have compared to this IC are the colored accents kit.
R2 of ePBT BoW (icon mods and all) is currently running, FWIW. I have R1 and the white is perfectly bright without being glaring and the legends are good IMO. Only thing it doesn't have compared to this IC are the colored accents kit.
While I much prefer GMK to ePBT, you're right. I am going to have to put this on the back burner again.
Sadly, part of the reason I postponed this over the summer was the announcement of R1 ePBT BoW. The timing of this new announcement of R2 is truly unfortunate.
OP
Still planning on bringing this out some day? With GMK Originative arriving soon, I'm gonna be even more eager to pick up Paper to go with it.
Still planning on bringing this out some day? With GMK Originative arriving soon, I'm gonna be even more eager to pick up Paper to go with it.
Any news on pricing and timing?
Any news on pricing and timing?
Nothing concrete yet, but I'm hoping to keep the price down and get this going early-ish 2019.
I'd love to see a black with white legends & red with white legends Return & Esc. keys added to the accent pack. Not sure how feasible that would be at this stage of the game, but it would pretty much put this set into the insta-buy category for me! ;)
Just going to be that guy and be the first to say that there is no reason a BOW GMK set with icon mods can't be made by someone else... It doesn't exactly constitute original work, and I will publicly say that I am happy to join the next GB organized by anyone.
Can OP just admit they aren't actually going to do anything so somebody can organize a group buy? It's been ten months since this thread was created and there have been multiple BoW sets that have eaten into the potential interest for this set. I am in the unfortunate position where I want this exact configuration (bright white, icon mods, GMK) in a BoW set and the only reason I don't already have it is because OP pretended like he was going to organize a GB for this for like half a year.