Post by: moh18one on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:32:48
RIP Ducky :(
EDIT: Synapse too
Post by: anatworkaccount on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:39:17
Post by: moh18one on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:43:48
This is the saddest thing I've seen in awhile. Ducky shine 6 was my first mech. Oh well. Shine series had a good run.
Yeah and I have forgotten to mention Synapse lol. I don't know what to think about Ducky now. Razer is going to have more control on the market because they have planned to partner with more brands...
Post by: giangpn on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:10:10
This is the saddest thing I've seen in awhile. Ducky shine 6 was my first mech. Oh well. Shine series had a good run.
Yeah and I have forgotten to mention Synapse lol. I don't know what to think about Ducky now. Razer is going to have more control on the market because they have planned to partner with more brands...
they are pretty big in Taiwan so it's pretty easy for them to influence other makers...
Post by: jackcauliflower on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:37:23
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Post by: mittyzz on Thu, 07 June 2018, 20:51:11
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Post by: Halverson on Thu, 07 June 2018, 21:15:23
Post by: Hak Foo on Fri, 08 June 2018, 01:24:21
Ducky had their teething problems early on in the hobby's lifetime. I can recall asking Chinese coworkers for help ordering a 1008XM from Taiwan (and discovering it was made of fail and tinfoil). But for years they've been putting out a predictably decent product with few surprises. Basically any time from 2010 onwards, you could say "just get the mainstream Ducky TKL or fullsize board" as a newbie reccomendation and not be too awfully wrong.
But I would be unsurprised to see their marketshare and mindshare slipping. They have to compete with no-name Chinese boards that will give you "Blue Switches" of some sort and the tackiest backlighting in the universe for about the price of a nice dinner out, and companies like Logitech, Corsair, and CoolerMaster who have established trust and distribution in the West.
Maybe, in that situation, the value is more in marketing than actual sales. Everyone in the hobby will be talking about Ducky for a few weeks, and probably browse other selections in their product line.
Although, if they wanted to make a splash, there are plenty of other choices. I'm surprised they didn't try to say "We're doing Box switches" -- there's a clear gap in the market for those.
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 08 June 2018, 02:46:02
As far as the switches go.. wish people would give them a chance. I mean until we have them in hand we don't know what might be done. I mean its completely possible Razer is going to raise the bar and have the switches lubed are perhaps manufacturing tolerances tightened. I would assume there going to be produced by one of the big named factors.
Sometimes I wonder if Razer is like massdrop. just having its name connected to something people automatically assume its garbage. I want to wait see how this play's out.
I am Personally curious how razers stand alone switches will look in a few months. I mean once some of the wonder boarder's get them in hand I want to know what kinda mods they do. Add a bit of lube maybe play with the spring a bit. Who know were things might go.
I just saying lets not overact and if the Razer software is optional then yea.. otherwise Ducky did screw up on that part hardcore.
Post by: Max_P0 on Fri, 08 June 2018, 07:09:30
Post by: seville57 on Fri, 08 June 2018, 10:03:45
RIP Ducky.
Post by: rxc92 on Fri, 08 June 2018, 10:54:32
Personally, it doesn't seem that Ducky is in any position to complain. They have a much larger customer base than any Western companies, and due to how large they've grown and experience in RGB innovation, they're ahead of the technology curve compared to 'no-name Chinese brands', and they also have the advantages of mass production and capital. If they decide to throw that away so they can cash in for a generation of Razer fans.. well, that'd be a shame, but certainly nobody's fault but their own.
Personally I've only had a single Ducky keyboard, which was nice for an OEM, but still with room for improvement. I hope Ducky is very sure on Razer quality or have made some big changes to the software, but that's just a dream.
Post by: Kevadu on Fri, 08 June 2018, 13:15:46
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 June 2018, 13:21:07
I wonder if this is a desperate move to get press/relevance.
Ducky had their teething problems early on in the hobby's lifetime.
companies like Logitech, Corsair, and CoolerMaster who have established trust and distribution in the West.
Ya'll know what Ducky needs.. ??
They aught to setup an Advertising campaign with America's Duck Dynasty..
Red white and Blue backlighting, No Green color, only hues of red white and blue..
+ free Duck call with Every keyboard.. and a 25% off any shotgun voucher where legal
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Post by: rxc92 on Fri, 08 June 2018, 23:15:47
Methinks you're all overreacting a tad. The Shine 7 was shown on the floor of Computex...with Cherry switches. Maybe they're going to offer Razer switches as an option, but it's definitely not going to be the only option.
That's true, it really wouldn't make sense for them to just drop the switches that all of their customers have been using and probably prefer. Probably just overreacting, you're right.
Post by: dman777 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 22:11:54
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9n7o0e/the_ducky_shine_7_official_unboxing/
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 28 November 2018, 19:55:58
Maybe the Shine 8 will have Razer switches? Sadness.
Post by: jamster on Thu, 29 November 2018, 18:51:01
As far as the switches go.. wish people would give them a chance. I mean until we have them in hand we don't know what might be done. I mean its completely possible Razer is going to raise the bar and have the switches lubed are perhaps manufacturing tolerances tightened. I would assume there going to be produced by one of the big named factors.
Sometimes I wonder if Razer is like massdrop. just having its name connected to something people automatically assume its garbage. I want to wait see how this play's out.
I am Personally curious how razers stand alone switches will look in a few months. I mean once some of the wonder boarder's get them in hand I want to know what kinda mods they do. Add a bit of lube maybe play with the spring a bit. Who know were things might go.
What's the current state of Razor quality anyway? My (extremely low) opinion of them is based off owning products from a decade ago, and then casually playing with some demo keyboards ~3 years ago. Has their current stuff improved in terms of durability and tolerances?
Post by: invariance on Thu, 29 November 2018, 19:47:59
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Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 30 November 2018, 04:25:56
I'm guessing that they could have threatened with Razer only so that they could negotiate a better deal with Cherry.
Post by: invariance on Fri, 30 November 2018, 07:12:13
Why would Ducky dilute their brand name by marking their products "Razer"? Those were made by Kailh or Greetech anyway — and you should be able to buy those same type of switches from those companies, just without the Razer branding.
I'm guessing that they could have threatened with Razer only so that they could negotiate a better deal with Cherry.
That sounds more plausible.
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Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 30 November 2018, 11:07:43
I have some personal interest in the question because I've been intrigued by Ornata.
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 30 November 2018, 12:49:19
Post by: Sup on Fri, 30 November 2018, 13:08:34
Just how much inferior are 'Razer' switches compared to Cherry MX? Do they use Kailh/Outemu/whatever and by extension an inferior Chinese manufacturer to the one that makes genuine Cherries?
I have some personal interest in the question because I've been intrigued by Ornata.
i think the switches are made by Greentech now if i am not mistaken instead of Kailh. I wouldn't get a Razer because non standard layout good luck finding compatible key caps. Second the price is expensive as a keyboard with genuine cherry switches and better build quality. NO GO for me atleast.