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Title: iPhone 4G
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 19 April 2010, 16:10:27: Allegedly... An Apple employee misplaced a nextgen iPhone prototype and someone found it (http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone).
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Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 19 April 2010, 16:34:15: I was expecting this to be a joke link. I'm actually disappointed it wasn't. I use my phones for making phone calls, new models don't excite me much.
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Post by: EverythingIBM on Mon, 19 April 2010, 18:11:36: I don't know why people glory over silly things like that, I've never been particularly interested in "upgrades", and the fact you need to keep recyling hardware seems wasteful to me. Plus, Apple never wanted such information to be leaked out, it's good conduct to follow a company's mandates if you're going to buy their products or wish to support them.
Companies should have the right to industry though; tree huggers should go crawl back to their trees, if a company makes some bad environment decisions, oh well. It happens. That's not a reason to shut down companies and ruin the economy.
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Post by: kode on Mon, 19 April 2010, 23:58:16: It's not a 4G phone though. LTE is a bit into the future still. But sure, likely the next iteration of the fruitphone.
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Post by: NOMiS on Tue, 20 April 2010, 01:48:03: So it's an iPhone with slightly improved hardware, and OS.

I could of told you that.
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Post by: zerocool on Tue, 20 April 2010, 03:37:14: i thought it was a fake at first but i when checking the news on a reputable website it was on there with the gizmondo pics adn talking about it.
i do actully wonder how different other than design wise it is to the 3Gs as i am getting a new (upgrading from old sony ericsson)phone in a few months
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Post by: ricercar on Tue, 20 April 2010, 11:50:38: it's real. Apple's official request for the return of the phone has hit the web.
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Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 20 April 2010, 11:54:07: So now the big question is, was there really a lost phone that Gizmodo bought and exposed; or are Gizmodo and Apple in kahootz, and this all a big scam for some viral marketing? Gizmodo made some very stupid, public mistakes (IMO) that lead me to think that viral marketing conspiracy theory has at least a little meat to it.
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Post by: kriminal on Tue, 20 April 2010, 12:24:55: Quote from: itlnstln;173776
So now the big question is, was there really a lost phone that Gizmodo bought and exposed; or are Gizmodo and Apple in kahootz, and this all a big scam for some viral marketing? Gizmodo made some very stupid, public mistakes (IMO) that lead me to think that viral marketing conspiracy theory has at least a little meat to it.

as far as im concerned every tech site has been caught with its pants down more than one time...
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Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 20 April 2010, 12:26:42: True that. It's one reason I stopped reading Tom's Hardware back in the day.
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Post by: kishy on Tue, 20 April 2010, 13:18:16: This is the first Apple product I'd describe as truly good looking.

Sadly, I'd actually want it...
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Post by: didjamatic on Tue, 20 April 2010, 14:04:41: This alternative (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10472925-1.html?tag=mncol;mlt_related)could be interesting... and they'll give you $350 for your iphone to switch.
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Post by: kishy on Tue, 20 April 2010, 14:07:12: Ooooo...and it's an HTC...they make good stuff (that is, I have yet to hear any complaints).
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Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 20 April 2010, 14:37:20: Quote from: itlnstln;173792
True that. It's one reason I stopped reading Tom's Hardware back in the day.

Ah, the old "we took off a Pentium 4's cooler and it didn't go poof but rather continued running" story? (Later it was shown that in spite of all the protective measures, an Intel CPU could still crash or even burn up and die under such conditions.) Sure smelled more like an Intel PR gag.
They shouldn't have used that IR thermometer without reading its manual - it showed like 29°C on the heatspreader (or some other value not too far above room temp), which was highly suspect to a large number of people. Now a metallic object like that is a good bit more reflective than your average blackbody radiator, and as such its temperature will tend to underread. Obviously the processor would have to be running at around the temperature that it takes for throttling to set in.
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 20 April 2010, 15:06:44: Quote from: ricercar;173774
it's real. Apple's official request for the return of the phone has hit the web.

Sorry, but...

(http://www.dembot.net/images/facepalm/double_trek_facepalm.jpg)
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Post by: ricercar on Tue, 20 April 2010, 20:11:25: What, you mean you can publish things on the web ... that are untrue?

gotcha
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 20 April 2010, 20:23:26: Come on, Apple would never ever do something dishonest like that. They were just testing their prototype under bar conditions and **** happened.
Considering the amount of hair-rising security ****ups in Apple OSes recently, it's obvious their developers are working under bar conditions a lot.
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Post by: HaaTa on Tue, 20 April 2010, 20:32:20: *gasp* somebody actually thinks Apple is an honest company.

:rofl:
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 20 April 2010, 21:08:13: Don't know if phone companies are evil. I'm the last European who doesn't own a cellphone.
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Post by: HaaTa on Tue, 20 April 2010, 21:31:42: ISP are worse...wait ISPs are (usually) phone companies.
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Post by: kode on Tue, 20 April 2010, 23:55:52: Quote from: itlnstln;173776
So now the big question is, was there really a lost phone that Gizmodo bought and exposed; or are Gizmodo and Apple in kahootz, and this all a big scam for some viral marketing? Gizmodo made some very stupid, public mistakes (IMO) that lead me to think that viral marketing conspiracy theory has at least a little meat to it.

well, from what I hear the guy who found it mailed apple about it and gave them several weeks to get back to him before it fell into gizmodo paws.

afro hair engineer is a real person, too, and from what I hear he's a pal of ycombinator people.

whatever, though, the phone doesn't seem to be much more than a die shrink, so in my opinion not very much to get excited over.
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Post by: ricercar on Wed, 21 April 2010, 00:35:02: Quote from: kode;173983
the phone doesn't seem to be much more than a die shrink.

Bwuh? Dual cameras with one VIDEO, higher resolution screen, 16% larger battery. Rotational drive storage.... Die shrink my ass.
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Post by: HaaTa on Wed, 21 April 2010, 01:28:23: Quote from: ricercar;173988
Rotational drive storage

Lol, I hope they don't run into any vibration issues with the microphone.

I can see the reviews now:
Quote

The Good: Lots of Storage
The Bad: Voice quality plummets, it sounds like your on a prop plane.
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Post by: zerocool on Wed, 21 April 2010, 02:45:04: this sotry has generated alot of free publicity for Apple and has shown that people are still interrested in teh iPhone and its development
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 21 April 2010, 03:09:42: Quote from: kode;173983
well, from what I hear the guy who found it mailed apple about it and gave them several weeks to get back to him before it fell into gizmodo paws.

Doubt it. Apple would have sued him for delaying their marketing campaign for several weeks.
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Post by: Jimmeh on Thu, 22 April 2010, 11:13:09: It seems to be real:
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_applelegaltogizmodo.jpg)
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 11:31:34: It's all a sham. Where are the legal threats, etc? It's garbage.
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 11:36:56: Ha! I didn't even see that. That does sound like DC&H-type name.
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 22 April 2010, 11:59:42: That letter is as much PR as legal request. Any request is going to be publicized, so Apple wants to be nice ... at first ... with a high-profile site like Gizmodo.
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:09:57: I like the last sentence in the letter, "Please let me know where to pick up the unit." Right... "Yo, dawg, why don't you fly your Californian ass out to NYC and pick it up from my office. Maybe we can get some pizza and hookers afterward." Seriously. We have already seen it stripped naked, just FedEx it back.
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Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:29:09: Well that's one way of getting publicity for your device, while paying very little to do it...
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Post by: hyperlinked on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:47:30: Quote from: o2dazone;174541
Well that's one way of getting publicity for your device, while paying very little to do it...

I love a good conspiracy theory, but the one thing that really sinks the idea that this was a planned leak is that they don't need to do this kind of leak in order to get publicity and they're not likely to seek out this kind of publicity because they have no control over it.
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:54:53: Quote from: hyperlinked;174562
they're not likely to seek out this kind of publicity because they have no control over it.

Who said they aren't?
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:56:29: Quote from: itlnstln;174568
Who said they aren't?

Steve "Control Freak" Jobs
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 22 April 2010, 12:58:17: There's never too much free publicity. Besides, I doubt Apple developers take their prototypes with them when they're going to a bar.
If they find the mutilated corpse of some iphone developer with bitemarks from Steve Jobs' teeth on his throat, then I'll admit I've been wrong and it wasn't a marketing stunt.
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Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 22 April 2010, 13:01:01: Yeah, only iSteve gets to unveil things like this. Other companies would leak prototypes for hype but not Apple.
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 13:03:22: If only that were true, ripster, if only that were true.
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Thu, 22 April 2010, 13:14:42: Quote from: ripster;174577
Did you know Obama really IS going to round up the Teaparty and stick them in a FEMA trailer concentration camp? (http://blog.bitcomet.com/post/165032/)

He'll give them FEMA trailers bought from tax payers money? ****ing bleeding heart liberal!
Congrats on the derailment btw!
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 22 April 2010, 13:16:52: Quote from: Mental Hobbit;174590
He'll give them FEMA trailers bought from tax payers money? ****ing bleeding heart liberal!

Well done. I will say that those FEMA trailers had a problems with formaldehyde used in the glue that was making people sick. With that in mind, I'm all for it.
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 22 April 2010, 14:00:31: Quote from: ripster;174577
Did you know Obama really IS going to round up the Teaparty and stick them in a FEMA trailer concentration camp

Posse Comitatus (http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/trebilcock.htm)?
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Post by: kishy on Thu, 22 April 2010, 15:52:26: Quote from: ripster;174484
Dewey, Cheatum & Howe

Wasn't that...Dewley?

Even if not, it'd be better if it was.
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Post by: kishy on Thu, 22 April 2010, 18:03:42: Reality is never as fun as how I remember it.
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Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 22 April 2010, 18:15:28: Consider using the services of Sue, Grabbit and Runne (http://www.solicitors-services.com), long-time enemies of Private Eye magazine.
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Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 26 April 2010, 19:10:22: One of the Gizmodo guys has had his house turned over by the police. They seized A fair bit of PC related stuff. This is going to get ugly methinks, as it appears they may well have broken their states law regarding journalists and Search warrants.
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Post by: ricercar on Mon, 26 April 2010, 20:16:50: Is true. His publisher hired defense council.

Apple vs the entire web of journalists. This will be GREAT! I love it when Apple goes to court and loses.
:popcorn:
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Post by: kishy on Mon, 26 April 2010, 20:38:43: Quote from: ricercar;176362
Is true. His publisher hired defense council.

Apple vs the entire web of journalists. This will be GREAT! I love it when Apple goes to court and loses.
:popcorn:

Amen to that, brotha'.
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Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 26 April 2010, 21:01:39: Gizmodo has admitted paying $5000 to receive the phone from someone they knew didn't own it, then they dismantled it. They better get OJ's (original) lawyer if they want to wriggle out of that. Not sure they can be done for anything serious, but they went too far.
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Post by: kishy on Mon, 26 April 2010, 21:58:07: I freakin' love Seinfeld. Recently completed the DVD collection.

Still planning to get some friends together for a nonstop Seinfeld marathon (well, perhaps stopping for sleep and other such necessities).
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Post by: EverythingIBM on Mon, 26 April 2010, 22:02:57: Quote from: ripster;173771
I saw Katie Couric with this story last night.

So.... I took this pic and sent it off to Gizmodo.
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9298&stc=1&d=1271782046)

I missed that. Hey, I like the iPhone all of the sudden. It looks so cool; the awesome red green and blue colour scheme.
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 27 April 2010, 02:22:57: Quote from: ripster;176383
Actually it's the DA's decision.

That's what makes it interesting. They might actually ask questions on how this super secret prototype ended up in some bar in the first place. :biggrin1: I sense Apple doesn't like this investigation at all.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:45:03: He looks so much like an old lady.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:54:41: Well, he did revolutionize pop music. You've definitely got that right! But he did go crazy and became an old lady.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:56:09: you might say he's the new queen of soul.
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Post by: elservo on Wed, 28 April 2010, 18:09:06: Oh c'mon, Aerosmith rocked once. They were kickass in the 70's, and in the 80's they put out Pump, which still holds up today. They didn't do much good after Pump, but hey, that's still something.
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Post by: ricercar on Wed, 28 April 2010, 18:34:32: DA has to pursue criminal charges, Apple could pursue a civil suit.

Quote from: elservo;177074
Oh c'mon, Aerosmith rocked once.

Now they need more cowbell.
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 28 April 2010, 18:38:19: Quote from: ripster;177077
The 80's is universally recognized as the "Lost Decade" when it comes to music.

Come on.

>
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Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 28 April 2010, 19:13:48: Quote from: webwit;177090
The Eighties destroyed everything. Before 1980 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U). After 1980 (http://www.vbox7.com/play:2bbc40c0).

In the eighties:

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Oh god, I share Webwit's taste in music. Scary...
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 April 2010, 07:22:22: Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) one of my favorite MC's from the 80's; I'm a hip-hop fan.
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Post by: zerocool on Thu, 29 April 2010, 09:00:37: someone sent me this and i thought it summed up this iPhone 4 stuff

http://tv.gawker.com/5526868/jon-stewart-slams-apple-over-its-handling-of-gizmodo-case (http://tv.gawker.com/5526868/jon-stewart-slams-apple-over-its-handling-of-gizmodo-case)
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Post by: elservo on Thu, 29 April 2010, 22:03:57: (http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/matimages2/rip81.jpg)
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Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 16 July 2010, 16:26:23: Quote from: kishy;203365
Can anyone remember what thread it was where an edited copy of this was made? I remember it pertained to ricercar, I don't quite remember the details though.

Just rifle through ricercar's posts. It's bound to show up at some given point.

That's funny how demanding they are, "please let me know where to pick up the unit," they don't even give any other options.

Stupid apple.
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Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 17 July 2010, 22:12:49: It's an old Jedi mind trick...