A Unicomp goes today for $70 using American labor. That is a more interesting number especially compared to a Filco.
Chuck once said that Unicomp used to sell the 84-keys for $69. I haven't seen any non-IBM branded Unicomp 84-keys, so it's ambigious as to when they cost that much. I'd say Chuck or Jim would probably know quite a bit about this.Jim sold me the last one (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=3859) to me back in the fall of 2007.
So when buying an IBM PS/2 at the time, did the customer have a choice between a clicky one and a rubber dome one?
Remember, though, those were just retail units. Most Model M's came with IBM's computers, so their price isn't really solid.
So when buying an IBM PS/2 at the time, did the customer have a choice between a clicky one and a rubber dome one?
you are one ****ing racist ****
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Don't let your white superior-ism blind you
you are one ****ing racist ****, get your fact straight!
they should get their money back.
Elsewhere in the world, people are too stupid to ask for money to hyperventilate online. They do it for free.
quoting from two CNN sources, good on ya. You are so blinded by the western media that I pity you more than those working on "slave" wage in China.
mental hobbit's comment was clearly racial.
If she was only referring to the unregulated work practices in China, that was out of context, first learn the difference between Republic of China and People's Republic of China.
You are so blinded by the western media
my internet is uncensored
Remember during the tibet rioting of 2008, Chinese nationalism fueled not by Chinese people's love for communism but by biased media reporting
this is like a 30 year old point and laughing at a 13 year old for being short.
do you know what a developing nation mean?
wellington: you can quote from BBC/CNN all you want, like most overseas Chinese, we are used to it, but we are unaffected by it. China is a developing nation, do you know what a developing nation mean? It means the countries is in the process of developing...in economy, in military, in legal institutions, in education .......developing in everything. You are from a developed nation, and here you are posting imperfections of a developing nation, this is like a 30 year old point and laughing at a 13 year old for being short. You must be very proud.
If she was only referring to the unregulated work practices in China, that was out of context, first learn the difference between Republic of China and People's Republic of China.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85AgLsLbKF0
like i said, he works for the chinese govt. we've got a genuine one over here folks.
Must be working for... SLAVE WAGES.
His local party office will be happy... "Hmmm... how much time did you spend posting to this Japanese keyboard loving Geekhack site?"
Be thankful for the things you god buddy, you don't want your next iphone 4g to cost $3000 without chinese "slave" labour
Actually technically I don't think it was the very LAST one. I'll leave it up to another Geekhack member to expand on this. Or you can call Unicomp.
One guy over in the quality thread posted weight statistics for his Model Ms... his 2006-made Customizer was 200g lighter than his 2009 one... a 10% weight decrease is pretty noteworthy...
i cant believe we got back on topic after that epic derail.
That's something I just don't understand. Do 200g of plastic really have a measurable effect on manufacturing cost? Obviously more than the 50g Cherry saves with their wimpy keycaps, but still...
The alternative would be just raising prices. I doubt a price increase from $69 to $79 would affect their sales at all, they're not in the bargain segment anyway. Everybody saying Unicomps feel cheaper than real IBMs certainly hurts them more.
Would be easy to find out. They could just dig up their old casting molds, make the beefiest board they can, call it Deluxe, put a $100-120 price tag on it and see if it sells. Wouldn't take any investment.
Subcontracting to China?
Their casings tend to have "GENERAL ELECTRIC" markings, is there any significance to this?
You're going off topic again.
Yeah, true dat.
Still, $70 for a NIB Buckling Spring ain't bad these days.
even though americans are begging us for money.
free texas
free texas
tibet is free, free from Dalai lama
that's why CCP enjoys strong support from its people.
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the earthquake that happened a week ago, just look how fast the chinese response were in helping the tibetan victim?
and what's your point showing me that photo? it's called death penalty, she's a criminal, probably a tibetan separatist, which means shooting in the head is justified. I am sure Texas have death penalty for criminals
Do you think Tankman deserved to die?
If I were the tank driver, i would have shot the guy in the face for having the balls to challenge the party and bring in social instability.
Do you think Tankman deserved to die?
If I were the tank driver, i would have shot the guy in the face for having the balls to challenge the party and bring in social instability.
didn't american kill those innocent iraqi reports?
and what's your point showing me that photo? it's called death penalty, she's a criminal, probably a tibetan separatist, which means shooting in the head is justified. I am sure Texas have death penalty for criminals
didn't american kill those innocent iraqi reports?
Could we ignore the troll and go back to the original topic, please?
The price of Model M back in the 80s interest me much more than a brainwashed totalitarian hypocrite.
(Not to mention that he's using a Japanese nickname. Considering what Japan did back in the WWII era to Taiwan/China, that's like a Polish person using a Hakenkreuz as his avatar)
Ehm Free Afghanistan? Shouldn't Americans first be leaving their oil war price which is covered up by propaganda before mentioning Tibet? If only they knew how little they see of the true nature of that war when you are in the US.... on the other hand every time someone points it out to them, they prefer to look the other way. If you are one of those, you can't mention Tibet. That makes all of you. You know. Afghanistan. Where your soldiers are such cowards, they first bomb a place, civilians and all, and then check if the suspect is among them. Each and every day, by strategy. Because you can't have dying American soldiers, so **** the innocent.
enlighten me, I still yet to see the advantage of democracy for a large developing nation such as china.
compare china and india. one dictatorship, one democracy. both have 1bn+ people, both developing. tell me which government you prefer. ignoring human rights. CCP in way more efficient at running the government.
Could we ignore the troll and go back to the original topic, please?
The price of Model M back in the 80s interest me much more than a brainwashed totalitarian hypocrite.
It's perfectly fine to admit that the next superpower is a Asia and/or communist state, and realising democracy is not the best form of government after all. nobody likes to admit to the inferiority of their system, and i perfectly understand your defensive on the subject.
It's perfectly fine to admit that the next nobody likes to admit to the inferiority of their system, and i perfectly understand your defensive on the subject.
That photo was from Texas.
im here cos i can watch porn on the internet, can see no boobies in china. i am staying here til the chinese government give back my porn watching right.
im here cos i can watch porn on the internet, can see no boobies in china. i am staying here til the chinese government give back my porn watching right.
im here cos i can watch porn on the internet, can see no boobies in china. i am staying here til the chinese government give back my porn watching right.
Holy **** you're right! You can see downtown San Antonio off in the corner.
There are no slaves in this World, there are no unjust Governments either, we are all born to be Eric Arthur Blair, but some people are more Eric Arthur Blair than others.
All Governments are corrupt in some form or another, some country kill their own Presidents, others sell their own people for body-parts, the people who made the film "Loose Change", the man who is "Five Hundred Miles From Home" et caetera, et caetera, et caetera.
There is no end to this KEY-BORED of discussions.
There is only one certainty, we will eventually end this sojourning and arrive at our destination to be greeted by our Maker, Who-ever He/She/It may be.
Just be sure YOU have nothing to hide.
wage that's equivalent to 2 years of slave labour making lead toys, i don't know...most tibetan pray instead of work, and it's the chinese people that have to pay taxes so that the government can provide them with welfare.
Wait, what's wrong with the f***ing thing again?
now you know how I felt when I first read that slave labour comment
You know what? People suck. They're always talking and ****ing and reproducing and praying and living and beating each other up and killing each other and killing animals and making rules and yelling and building things and destroying things and fighting and blowing **** up and ****ting and pissing all over the place and eating and drinking and doing drugs and working and cheating and hating and...
The guy from the Matrix was right, people are just virii.
...and thats why we have ... uncensored media.
You know what? People suck.
The Americans are fascists.
See ch123? There's some "relativism" even I cant entertain. I dont know why people have such a hard time with the concept of degree, especially in politics. Anyone who equates the US (in politics, in media censorship, or anything else) with the soviets or the maoists or the taliban or the islamists is someone who's put their sense of discrimination (or of history), for whatever reason, directly into the toilet.
Still? I thought we were socialists now that we exchanged Bush for Obama.