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Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Fri, 23 April 2010, 12:01:36
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(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9378&stc=1&d=1272042031)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9376&stc=1&d=1272042011)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9377&stc=1&d=1272042021)
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 23 April 2010, 12:30:26
Quote from: ripster;175030
I don't buy keyboards named Nopoo.

Nosiree.

Why not?  I don't want poo in my keyboards.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 23 April 2010, 17:16:25
Nopoo for yoo, one year.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: sixty on Fri, 23 April 2010, 18:21:07
It seems everyone and their mother is OEMing from Costar now. Where is the geekhack board?! Seriously.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 24 April 2010, 03:48:14
What's this about "No poo choc"?
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: majestouch on Sat, 24 April 2010, 04:11:53
best product name. ever.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: didjamatic on Sat, 24 April 2010, 08:14:19
Google Translate say:

Noppoo Choc Chocolate mechanical keyboard

It is anticipated Noppoo Choc Chocolate mechanical keyboard on the official market in April 2010, the end of 2009 came Noppoo mechanical keyboard will be available after the official announced today the first mechanical keyboard Choc Noppoo chocolate professional mechanical keyboard.

This shape resembles the keyboard owner Narrow chocolate a very attractive name Choc, that is, "chocolate" in English abbreviation, the current devaluation of this mechanical keyboard is the most suitable for the game to use the Cherry native black-axis, also have blue shaft axis and the different choices of tea, the main push of the black color is not the only expected this year will have three different colors of chocolate machinery listed on the keyboard simultaneously.

Noppoo Choc keyboard has a beautiful chocolate packaging machinery, will be fully guaranteed in the transport and carry in peacetime damage from external forces, while pulling the keyboard with keys and portable package, easily disassemble the owner of Cap and carry. In addition to the pricing of most concern Noppoo Choc mechanical keyboard is also very tempted, just as delicious as chocolate attracts us, please consult Noppoo around the dealer, let us look forward to Noppoo Choc chocolate machinery brought us a new keyboard a mechanical age.

Noppoo Choc Chocolate mechanical keyboard

Dimensions: 440mm x 135mm x 30mm (± 10mm)
Keyboard Weight: 1000g (error ± 50g)
key spaces: 104 key
bond distance: 5mm (Cap margin), 20mm (Cap center distance)
key-bit key-way : 4mm
key bit trigger: 1.9mm
Cable length: 2m (error of ± 0.1m)
Cap Type: ABS Laser filler
Cap features: Cherry native black shaft
key bit of conflict: conflict in general (up to 8 key conflict-free)
operation System: Windows 98 (SE) Me/2000 / XP / Vista
Connection Interface: USB (Plug and Play)

China general agent: Snow Park Technology
For more information hotline :021-65433560


Geekhack Translation:
It's a NKRO Costar with cherry blacks.  
Blues and Browns available on a future model.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 24 April 2010, 08:18:56
My favourite line.

Quote from: didjamatic;175399
[...]please consult Noppoo around the dealer[...]
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: nanu on Sat, 24 April 2010, 08:57:40
Long spacebar is long. Square thumb keys are cheaper I suppose. I sort of wish makers would only bastardize the ANSI keyboard layout instead by segmenting the spacebar like Japanese layouts, so long as the area under "NM" were contiguous.  Maybe the same constraint to "CV" for weirdoes. Doing both you could have another key centered under "B." That might be too cute, however.

The extra keys should be programmable of course.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 16:24:13
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9377&stc=1&d=1272042021)
I like how they didn't get a license to use the windows keys and instead supplemented with "WIN".
Yes, WIN; because no one wants to buy a cheap keyboard like that, so you'd have to win it instead.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 24 April 2010, 16:28:18
Cheap? Its basically a NKRO Filco (Costar) with a different logo and keyset...
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 24 April 2010, 16:32:36
I wonder what the controller is like... Costar boards are a bit hit and miss with those things...
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 16:33:42
Quote from: TheSoulhunter;175556
Cheap? Its basically a NKRO Filco (Costar) with a different logo and keyset...


The key size is nonstandard. The case is to rigid (my wrists feel tingly just looking at the thick height and steep narrow ridge); certainly some ergonomy is desired. And the name is so weird I'd flee away from it.
Plus, if a company doesn't have registered keys with microsoft; I'd want to know why.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:12:26
Quote from: EverythingIBM;175560
The key size is nonstandard.

Where?

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The case is to rigid (my wrists feel tingly just looking at the thick height and steep narrow ridge); certainly some ergonomy is desired.


Same case Filcos use. I never got the impression anyone had problems with that.

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Plus, if a company doesn't have registered keys with microsoft; I'd want to know why.

To save license fees? I like that. I have zero desire to pay for a windows logo on my keyboard, but most manufacturers force me to do so for some strange reason.

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And the name is so weird I'd flee away from it.

Most names will have a weird sound in some foreign language. I couldn't care less.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:17:26
Well to be fair, its probably pronounced No'poh. But its always gonna be a No-poo keyboard to me :P.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:28:21
Do companies really pay to license the logo? I thought it was kind of an implied permission since it effectively promotes MS products...
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:33:37
Quote from: kishy;175644
Do companies really pay to license the logo? I thought it was kind of an implied permission since it effectively promotes MS products...


Why do you think all keyboard makers simultaneous update the windows keyboard logo when MS makes a new one?
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:46:24
Because...they...like...being...trendy?
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: kishy on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:03:34
That's the WHQL cert logos, not keyboard key logos...
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:22:27
I did read that the circle was required to be added to the win logo if you wanted to claim "ready for Vista" or whatever the jingle was.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:53:06
Quote from: ripster;175696
My Filcos are all Win7 certified.

This allows me to sleep at night dreaming of rounded domes and nubbly nubile nubian nubbies.

I thought it was legos and Paul Rand.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 April 2010, 02:48:39
Quote from: EverythingIBM;175648
Why do you think all keyboard makers simultaneous update the windows keyboard logo when MS makes a new one?


Unicomp doesn't. Therefore all the others are wrong.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 April 2010, 06:43:02
Quote from: ch_123;175721
Unicomp doesn't. Therefore all the others are wrong.


Unicomp uses the win 98 logo (still certified to use it to begin with). I'd assume they're allowed to do that; they're not a major market player. And most of their keyboards are the standard model M layout.

Billy G. probably uses unicomps.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:29:06
Wrong. The license agreement said that after a certain date, all keyboards had to be made with the newer logo.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: waperboy on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:47:05
I always snickered at how computer peripheral distributors have to put "Compatible with Windows X and Y" on their products, as if it actually means something.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:49:25
The worst example of this was when I got some Corsair DDR2 to upgrade my Mam's computer, and there were stickers on the DIMMs claiming that they were Vista compatible...

Some clone x86 chips back in the 90s used to have Windows flags on them to indicate Windows 95 compatibility...
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: Megaweapon on Sun, 25 April 2010, 10:00:09
Ah yes, Cyrix etc.

Takes me back to when NT was released and it was easier to list the hardware it was compatible with than what it wasn't.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: kishy on Sun, 25 April 2010, 13:07:35
Quote from: ch_123;175721
Unicomp doesn't. Therefore all the others are wrong.


I AGREE WITH YOU, KIND SIR.

lol.
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 April 2010, 15:49:24
Quote from: ch_123;175752
The worst example of this was when I got some Corsair DDR2 to upgrade my Mam's computer, and there were stickers on the DIMMs claiming that they were Vista compatible...

Some clone x86 chips back in the 90s used to have Windows flags on them to indicate Windows 95 compatibility...


Sounds like the acer monitors I've unpacked that said "vista compatible".
Title: Noppoo Choc - Filco clone
Post by: popol on Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:15:37
This keyboard is a ****ing scam. The print on the keycaps are uneven, some keys are almost not printed and only one or 2 are really golden printed.
Recommending that keyboard is really not willing to help people.

High disapointment.

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5297/p4210058.jpg)

- look at the "{[" keys difference over the enter key: one is really printed the other one almost not at all.
- look at the 2 keys on the left of the enter one: almost not printed at all.
- The only really printed key (too much???) is the Q (by the way in phonetic "Q" means ass in French... ironic isn't it?) and almost the "7".

And I'm not talking about the kind of white veil covering unevenly the keys...

They don't do any QA.
(Sorry for my bad English)