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Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 19:52:34

This was the keyboard I saw going for $200 at memory express:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice_keyboard_combos/devices/4956 (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice_keyboard_combos/devices/4956)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9436&stc=1&d=1272156664)
(hey, are those ripster's hands?)

The one (and only) interesting thing about this keyboard is the "gaming mode", where it disables the context and windows keys. I got a solution, don't put them on to BEGIN with.

Other than that, it's a cheap crappy rubber dome. They certainly don't bother to put what type of switch in the features. I'd rather buy a model F for $200: if I was even going to pay that much for a keyboard.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:12:47

There are always people that will overpay for stuff that is marketed as being good, but is actually the cheap stuff but packaged nicely. Not just on keyboards

In audio: Skullcandy, Bose, Monster (Beats by Dre are extremely mediocre) Machina Dynamica (http://machinadynamica.com/), and numerous, numerous others...

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:20:32

Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;175635

There are always people that will overpay for stuff that is marketed as being good, but is actually the cheap stuff but packaged nicely. Not just on keyboards

In audio: Skullcandy, Bose, Monster (Beats by Dre are extremely mediocre) Machina Dynamica (http://machinadynamica.com/), and numerous, numerous others...

That's very true.
I personally like Creative or Roland for audio. Bose in my opinion has terrible treble.

Alienware would be a good example of overpriced computers (dell owns it!).

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: Ski11z on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:20:59

Had the G15, was a pain to type on, sold that stupid phucker.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 20:23:06

Quote from: Ski11z;175640

Had the G15, was a pain to type on, sold that stupid phucker.

Sounds like one of the rubber domes I bought at best buy for $80 (I returned it). I was naive to think that keyboards sold there would be good.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:16:24

Quote from: EverythingIBM;175629

I'd rather buy a model F for $200: if I was even going to pay that much for a keyboard.

I'd definitely buy a $200 Datahand.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 April 2010, 21:24:46

Quote from: ricercar;175680

I'd definitely buy a $200 Datahand.

I wouldn't call that a keyboard. The learning curve is way too high for most people.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 25 April 2010, 02:23:07

Quote from: EverythingIBM;175685

I wouldn't call that a keyboard. The learning curve is way too high for most people.

I would be all over a $200 Datahand like a fly on ****. Learning is fun, and I suspect that with (lots of) practice, you can pull off some insane speeds too. I use my KB's, try to better my technique. The whole reason I love mechanicals is because they work better.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: Specter_57 on Sun, 25 April 2010, 05:52:39

..

EverythingIBM:

I take it that you are underwhelmed by that Logitech board.....

...but hey..at least they didn't combine it with that silly aquarium theme mentioned in another thread...now the two put together...*that* would be ultimate...

Joking aside...there is a lot of overpriced junk around, and people do actually pay a lot for it...I shake my head sometimes.


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Spec_57

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 April 2010, 06:26:06

Quote from: Specter_57;175736

..

EverythingIBM:

I take it that you are underwhelmed by that Logitech board.....

...but hey..at least they didn't combine it with that silly aquarium theme mentioned in another thread...now the two put together...*that* would be ultimate...

Joking aside...there is a lot of overpriced junk around, and people do actually pay a lot for it...I shake my head sometimes.


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Spec_57

I was so overwhelmed in fact that I started shouting in the store upon seeing such a thing: it shocked me so much; I didn't think that was possible. I may have been over-reacting, but honestly... it's outrageous. I HOPE bystanders heard me and go for some mehcanical keyboards.

I also had the "priviledge" to test THIS horrible thing:
(http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/razerusa/images/product/detail/razer-lycosa-main-n.jpg)

I don't WANT to know how much that thing costs. I have nothing good to say about it either.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: ricercar on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:08:44

Quote from: EverythingIBM;175739

. I have nothing good to say about it either.

blue is nice.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:53:16

Quote from: EverythingIBM;175629

This was the keyboard I saw going for $200 at memory express:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice_keyboard_combos/devices/4956 (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice_keyboard_combos/devices/4956)

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9436&stc=1&d=1272156664)

(hey, are those ripster's hands?)

The one (and only) interesting thing about this keyboard is the "gaming mode", where it disables the context and windows keys. I got a solution, don't put them on to BEGIN with.

Other than that, it's a cheap crappy rubber dome. They certainly don't bother to put what type of switch in the features. I'd rather buy a model F for $200: if I was even going to pay that much for a keyboard.

Get a Super Carrier and mod it with the USB controller described in another thread.  You'd not have the lights or LCD, but you'd not be neutered by multiplayer game security systems(such as done with G15 & Razer boards).

Or there's the German option of getting a G80-2100.  Same advantages and disadvantages.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: zXWF on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:55:54

Quote from: EverythingIBM;175739

I was so overwhelmed in fact that I started shouting in the store upon seeing such a thing: it shocked me so much; I didn't think that was possible. I may have been over-reacting, but honestly... it's outrageous. I HOPE bystanders heard me and go for some mehcanical keyboards.

If bystanders heard you shouting over a keyboard, they most likely thought you were insane.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 25 April 2010, 07:58:44

Quote from: ricercar;175745

blue is nice.

Had Razer's other board, the Tarantula.  Looks impressive, but breaks too easily.  No, that doesn't count durability tests consisting of self-defense-by-keyboard.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: brkz on Sun, 25 April 2010, 08:31:17

Had a G15, it wasn't even good for gaming. S key would stop registering unless pressed down really hard. You don't do well at TF2 when you stand still when you don't want to. :(

Only good thing that came out of it was reading up on good keyboards, which led to (too many) model Ms.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: Specter_57 on Sun, 25 April 2010, 08:39:01

..
Quoted: "... I HOPE bystanders heard me and go for some mehcanical keyboards..."

Actually, the masses do not know or care about the benefits of mechanical keyboards over the cheap plastic POS boards that are the norm nowadays...so if they remain blissfully ignorant...that means more for us enlightened ones....that's the theory, anyway.....


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Spec_57

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 25 April 2010, 09:50:45

Quote from: ripster;175789

Don't be a geek.

Impress your friends with coffee, not technology.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9447&stc=1&d=1272206559)

OK I'll bite.  I love great coffee.  What model Expresso maker is that and how have you modified/improved it??

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 25 April 2010, 10:01:34

Quote from: ripster;175798

Anita from Chris Coffee (http://www.chriscoffee.com/) modified with a thermometer.

Don't expect to pour consistent rosettes in the first year.

Wish I had one of these when I was single.  Nothing like a little caffeine.  :biggrin1:

Am I reading the price correctly off the website??   $1450??   Wow.  And I say again.....Wow.   And I complain about the cost of my once/week Cafe Americano at Starbucks LOL.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 25 April 2010, 10:26:04

Quote from: ripster;175810

Less than 2 crowns.  :biggrin1:

You got me there.  But my lab costs far exceed the norm.  When you can't settle for anything but the best, you pay......and dearly.  

......moving towards the wife to see if she thinks we could use a new Expresso maker??  :angel:

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 25 April 2010, 10:50:38

Quote from: ripster;175820

Is she a numbers person?

Assume a $3.10 double cappuccino (2009 price and no tip for those cheery fake smiles).  $3.10 x two a day x 365 days = $2263.  Subtract $500 in local fresh roasted boutique coffee and organic milk and you are still ahead.

Plus, life is too short to drink Starbucks coffee.

LOL!!!  Have you seen this:

(http://idea-sandbox.com/blog_images/dunkin_beat_starbucks.png)

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 April 2010, 15:29:46

Quote from: ripster;175789

Don't be a geek.

Impress your friends with coffee, not technology.

I'd prefer one of these:
(http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00ZegatGrzTUkW/Fruit-Juice-Machine.jpg)
It's a fruit juice machine... made in china.

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: Mith on Sun, 25 April 2010, 18:23:36

I almost bought that board...

But then I found mechanical keyboards and realized the scam. It was like waking up from The Matrix. O_o

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: kriminal on Mon, 26 April 2010, 06:26:00

Quote from: Mith;175960

I almost bought that board...

But then I found mechanical keyboards and realized the scam. It was like waking up from The Matrix. O_o

mmhhmm it was my experience exactly... :)

Title: Logitech G19 (overpriced, cluttered, big, and ugly)
Post by: nraymond on Mon, 26 April 2010, 15:21:18

Quote from: ripster;175895

Gotta be Italian made or it ain't espresso.

Bialetti (http://www.bialetti.it/it/index.asp) FTW