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Title: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 September 2018, 02:15:54
Hey GH,

We've been pretty busy working on a few new products/revisions and glad to announce it's finally live! A few notable changes: No more paypal fee at checkout. Updated tactile bumps and silencing. New black & gold Zeal60 aesthetic.

You can find our full range of GB items here: https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders

Or alternatively, click on the below images to be brought to the product page directly.

Orange Healios (Silent Linear, new bottom out dampeners) - $0.90/ea
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Healios.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/healios)

Zilent V2 (Silent Tactile, new bottom out dampeners) Updated bump, similar to Zealio V2 - $0.90/ea
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/78g_zilent_resized.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zilents)

Zealio V2 (updated tactile bump, rounder/bigger than Holy Pandas) - $0.75/ea
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/zealios3.jpeg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zealio)

Tealios (Linear) - $0.75:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/tealios.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/tealios)

Zeal60 Rev 4 (Black & Gold aesthetic, USB C) $120
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/blackgold.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zeal60rgb)

Zeal Transparent Stabilizers V2 - Starting from $30
(http://i.imgur.com/zCDefd9.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zealstabilizers)

Zealencio Silencing Clips - Starting from $45
(http://i.imgur.com/iuKWH82.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zealencio)

Zephyr - Starting from $600, Ending Sept 21, 2018 midnight.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/purplezephyr3.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/products/zephyr)

Any questions, feel free to ask below  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 September 2018, 02:16:01
Reserved
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Signature on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:10:19
Approved (:
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Punchy Lab on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:20:57
Will zeal60 r4 support typec to typec?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: fer.real on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:36:04
Do the dampeners on Healios and Zilents reduce the travel distance?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Chimera on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:46:37
What were the changes to the dampeners on the silent switches? I heard they were very good compared to mx silents already.

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Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:49:12
Is there anything new/updated about the V2 stabs?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Aerizu on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:51:50
Does the Zeal60 R4 supports 6u Spacebar layout? (1.5u - 1u - 1.5u - 6u - 1.5u - 1u - 1u - 1.5u)
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Remsky on Fri, 21 September 2018, 11:17:34
So do the new zealios just have an updated stem, or did the leaf change as well?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Kevadu on Fri, 21 September 2018, 17:16:05
So are standard Zealios still going to be sold?  Sorry to be that guy but I don't consider a rounder bump to be a good thing.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Chimera on Fri, 21 September 2018, 18:31:34
Did the stems change at all for anything (size)

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Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 September 2018, 19:11:43
What were the changes to the dampeners on the silent switches? I heard they were very good compared to mx silents already.

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Extra dampeners were added to stabilize the bottom out better. Once the final samples arrive, we will take further pictures.

Is there anything new/updated about the V2 stabs?
No, the stabilizers had the V2 in the product title for over a year now. Same inventory, but now in stock if ordered without GB items.

Does the Zeal60 R4 supports 6u Spacebar layout? (1.5u - 1u - 1.5u - 6u - 1.5u - 1u - 1u - 1.5u)
Unfortunately not. The RGB constraints prevent this layout from happening. In addition, finding 6u wires isn't the easiest.

So are standard Zealios still going to be sold?  Sorry to be that guy but I don't consider a rounder bump to be a good thing.
Maybe if there's demand, but we truly think people will like the updated bump design.

So do the new zealios just have an updated stem, or did the leaf change as well?

Stem, leaf, spring, bottom housing, top housing all had adjustments. Bottom housing legs have also been adjusted to make them not so tight with other PCBs.

Do the dampeners on Healios and Zilents reduce the travel distance?
Yes they will, as with all sound dampening switches.

Did the stems change at all for anything (size)

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Stem, leaf, spring, bottom housing, top housing all had adjustments.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 20:23:58
Sounds exciting. I already purchased a bunch of Zealios V2 but waiting on some reviews from some other members in the community. Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: indiceiris on Fri, 21 September 2018, 20:38:59
Any chance you could elaborate on the specific changes? HP have a unique sound profile as well as feel, so I'm curious about any specific details before community reviews start coming out.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 22 September 2018, 11:15:29
Will zeal60 r4 support typec to typec?

It should. I am using the same circuit as Zeal65, RAMAWORKS M6-A, M60-A, U80-A, and a bunch more upcoming PCBs with USB-C. Rama has tested this with his PC, and I've tested this with my Google Pixel phone.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 22 September 2018, 22:42:31
So do the new zealios just have an updated stem, or did the leaf change as well?

Stem, leaf, spring, bottom housing, top housing all had adjustments. Bottom housing legs have also been adjusted to make them not so tight with other PCBs.

Will there be any samples and/or reviews coming out regarding the v2 switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: verrel on Sun, 23 September 2018, 11:24:25
Hi Zeal,

I was wondering when do you plan to close the GB?

Thanks,
V.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 23 September 2018, 14:06:18
So do the new zealios just have an updated stem, or did the leaf change as well?

Stem, leaf, spring, bottom housing, top housing all had adjustments. Bottom housing legs have also been adjusted to make them not so tight with other PCBs.

Will there be any samples and/or reviews coming out regarding the v2 switches?

Yes, we're expecting samples around end of Sept / early Oct. Will have a handful of reviewers test em out.

Hi Zeal,

I was wondering when do you plan to close the GB?

Thanks,
V.

Won't really have a deadline but we'll be placing order around mid Oct to secure a production timeslot. All orders afterwards will be limited based on extras ordered.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 10 October 2018, 02:16:18
any updates on the review samples?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: delivery on Wed, 10 October 2018, 15:02:07
Waiting for reviews and updates
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 11 October 2018, 20:31:18
TopClack did a review and full build log here:

Hiney also did a quick first impressions review here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/320912671

Other reviewers should be posting shortly.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 11 October 2018, 20:38:09
where the zeal box switches at doe :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 13 October 2018, 03:07:54
Interested how the outemu sky 2.2 compares to zealios v2. On my boards I still prefer v1
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 14 October 2018, 22:50:13
I provided an in-depth review on Reddit for those who are curious about the V2s:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9o488t/zeals_new_switches_comparison_and_sound_test_of/
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phorx on Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:44:21
Can’t wait to try the Healios
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:30:32
Do all the weight variants of the zilents have different stems?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:37:43
Do all the weight variants of the zilents have different stems?
No difference besides colour
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 19 October 2018, 09:08:19
I’ve ordered the orange v2’s. They will be going in my Rama Koyu Haze (gold with purple backplate). Haven’t decided on keycaos yet - maybe Laser (which I have). Possibly Phantom or Grand Budapest (which I sadly don’t have). Very excited, I am positively clicky with anticipation.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phatty on Mon, 22 October 2018, 18:28:33
How's the GB going? Has the order been placed, are we on track for December arrival at Zeal HQ?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 22 October 2018, 21:32:54
How's the GB going? Has the order been placed, are we on track for December arrival at Zeal HQ?

Yes, still looking at December fulfillment. Switches and PCB are currently in production.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phatty on Tue, 23 October 2018, 06:26:13
How's the GB going? Has the order been placed, are we on track for December arrival at Zeal HQ?

Yes, still looking at December fulfillment. Switches and PCB are currently in production.

HotDog! Ever since SuperVan disappeared, the only hope of Panda switches I can look forward to are Zeals.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phorx on Tue, 23 October 2018, 08:09:10
I had the opportunity to try play with a single Healio prototype and a 78g Zealio v2 at local meetup.  I can't imagine people being disappointed with these and look forward to seeing how a full board of them feels.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 24 October 2018, 00:50:52
How'd you find a full board of the V2 78g Zealios? I got to try single versions of the switches w/ Zeal at the Vancouver meetup, but not a full board and I'm stuck between getting 67g and 78g.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phorx on Wed, 24 October 2018, 07:39:42
How'd you find a full board of the V2 78g Zealios? I got to try single versions of the switches w/ Zeal at the Vancouver meetup, but not a full board and I'm stuck between getting 67g and 78g.

Sorry I didn't get to try a full board of any of the new switches, just a single v2 78G zealio and a single healio.  Weight is always a personal thing.  If you're on the fence on weights, I'd recommend ordering whichever one has the stem colour you like better and then get some aftermarket springs in different weights to experiment with.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: bloos on Wed, 24 October 2018, 23:21:53
ordering whichever one has the stem colour you like better and then get some aftermarket springs in different weights to experiment with.

I thought there were more differences between the switches than just the spring weight and color? are stem shapes & leafs the same between the weights Zeal?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 25 October 2018, 08:48:56
...are stem shapes & leafs the same between the weights Zeal?


yes
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: djaeyun on Thu, 25 October 2018, 16:43:06
Are the Tealios here the v2 ones that have been advertised?
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 25 October 2018, 18:49:54
Are the Tealios here the v2 ones that have been advertised?

Tealios listed on our site will be using the same V2 hosuing we're using on Zealios/Zilents and Healios. You can call them "V2s" but I didn't think there was that much of a change to justify the new name.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:19:23
Has anyone tried halo stems in the new housing? Cheers
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:40:35
Has anyone tried halo stems in the new housing? Cheers
Yep, they are very similar to stock zealio v2 stems.

Bump is a little lower, little longer, and less tactile than the zealio v2 stem. But they are quite similar, imo.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 02 December 2018, 20:55:41
Has anyone tried halo stems in the new housing? Cheers
Yep, they are very similar to stock zealio v2 stems.

Bump is a little lower, little longer, and less tactile than the zealio v2 stem. But they are quite similar, imo.

I was just testing this out now. In terms of tactility and feel they are very similar, virtually indistinguishable to me.

However, one difference is that the halo true stem produces a much sharp "clack" when bottoming out in the zealio housing that the stock v2 zealio doesn't have. This may be a good or bad thing, depending on your tastes.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: fireworm on Sun, 02 December 2018, 21:44:25
Yep, did you put the zealio stem in the halo housing? That helped me feel the subtle difference. The zealio stem has a little more pop (ie sharper tactility).

I could swear zeal copied halo....
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 03 December 2018, 06:36:29
Thanks for the testing guys!
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Aerizu on Sat, 08 December 2018, 18:58:16
Any updates on the production? Are we getting our switches and PCB soon? :D
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 08 December 2018, 19:56:41
Any updates on the production? Are we getting our switches and PCB soon? :D

I just got a notification that my Zilents V2 are shipping. So, not too must longer now.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: firezlife on Sat, 08 December 2018, 21:48:17
Any updates on the production? Are we getting our switches and PCB soon? :D

I just got a notification that my Zilents V2 are shipping. So, not too must longer now.

Lucky!  Still waiting on my order of the Zeals 65g v2 and Tealios :(
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 09 December 2018, 00:03:52
Tealios coming in Monday, Healios shortly after. Zeal60 PCB shipping out to us Monday as well. Our goal is to wrap up everything before end of December, ideally before Christmas.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Aerizu on Sun, 09 December 2018, 00:19:50
Tealios coming in Monday, Healios shortly after. Zeal60 PCB shipping out to us Monday as well. Our goal is to wrap up everything before end of December, ideally before Christmas.

That's certainly good news! I have a few incomplete boards just waiting to be filled with these switches :) I can't wait to receive mine.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: firezlife on Sun, 09 December 2018, 01:58:36
Tealios coming in Monday, Healios shortly after. Zeal60 PCB shipping out to us Monday as well. Our goal is to wrap up everything before end of December, ideally before Christmas.

Yayyyyyyyyy.  Thank you for update and the hard work!!
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: elmo on Sun, 09 December 2018, 09:59:17
just saw that there is a 65 version of the zeal pcb available.
anybody knows if that will fit in the kbdfans tofu case?
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/65-layout-case/products/in-stocktofu-65-aluminum-case
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: elmo on Sun, 09 December 2018, 10:44:36
just saw that there is a 65 version of the zeal pcb available.
anybody knows if that will fit in the kbdfans tofu case?
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/65-layout-case/products/in-stocktofu-65-aluminum-case

nevermind. just saw that the zeal65 has a center usb which makes it impossible to fit into the tofu case. too bad...
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: Idef1x on Tue, 18 December 2018, 07:48:42
Hi Zeal! I can see, that people are starting to receive their Helios. Have everything shipped or is it an ongoing process?

I am still waiting for the shipping confirmation.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: phorx on Tue, 18 December 2018, 09:14:40
Hi Zeal! I can see, that people are starting to receive their Helios. Have everything shipped or is it an ongoing process?

I am still waiting for the shipping confirmation.

They haven't all shipped yet from what he's said in Discord.  Large batches are going out, but there were a lot of orders.  Also, if you had other things in your order that haven't come in yet, your shipment might be held back to wait for them.  You should get a shipping notice as soon as he's printed your shipping label.
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: iliketimex on Thu, 20 December 2018, 08:55:42
Just got a automated shipping notice this morning that my Healios and Zilent v2's are shipping. I live on east coast USA and ordered in November (low 16000's order #).
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 20 December 2018, 09:49:26
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181220/9108bed5d742acac808aebb45674da65.jpg)

I got mine yesterday. I ordered 2 weeks ago or so. Now I’m kind of eyeing some Zilents


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Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 20 December 2018, 12:36:31
just saw that there is a 65 version of the zeal pcb available.
anybody knows if that will fit in the kbdfans tofu case?
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/65-layout-case/products/in-stocktofu-65-aluminum-case

nevermind. just saw that the zeal65 has a center usb which makes it impossible to fit into the tofu case. too bad...


cut a new whole in the tofu case brother
Title: Re: [GB] Healios, Zealios V2, Zilents V2, Rev4 Zeal60 (Black & Gold), etc.
Post by: iliketimex on Fri, 21 December 2018, 23:16:49
Zilent v2's and Healios arrived today. These are very good switches. Zilent v2's are better than v1's in my opinion - tactility is more defined and stock springs are better. The zilents are the best silent switch I have tried. Healios are just what I expected - smooth and quiet, and nicer than cherry/gateron silent linears. I don't think lubing or modding is needed on either the Healio or Zilent.