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Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 30 April 2010, 18:30:02
Just a heads up.

I got this clicking on the "what was your first computer" thread.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/InSanCenPP/falsepositive.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 30 April 2010, 21:49:04
Quote from: ripster;177685
Stuck Geekhack.org in Norton and it came up clean. Nuttin from Microsoft Security Essentials.   And since only Jbert and I posted links I don't think there's anything there in that particular thread.  I'm not trying to win the troll award THAT badly.

Sure it's not on your end?  I had avast for a while but the constant updating was driving me nuts. Plus I could never take their Argghhh Matey theme seriously.   Am on Microsoft Security Essentials and am quite happy with it.


Windows security essentials AND norton are terrible. Especially norton, it deleted some important windows files on my 300PL. And it ran really slow.

I'd reccomend either AVG or tenebril spycatcher (spycatcher is great, one of the best pieces of software in my opinion).
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: zwmalone on Fri, 30 April 2010, 22:51:34
I'd like to know how MSE is terrible? Low memory footprint, good detection... I fail to see the problem.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Sat, 01 May 2010, 01:06:07
MSE is not terrible as far as Windows antivirus goes EIBM, read up a bit on it. I just happened to chuck Avast on it because, well, I'm not in Windows all that often and it was there.

It was more of a heads up just incase.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sat, 01 May 2010, 01:55:50
MSE user here. Swear by it. Beautiful piece of software.

Ridiculously low resource use. Excellent performance. Realtime scanning is not terribly intrusive, provides proper options to permit the dangerous file if I need it, and doesn't add a ridiculous delay to opening files as do some other realtime scanners. I've had zero false positives.

I particularly like that it does spyware/malware as well. Realtime scanning for non-virus-but-still-bad-stuff is not easy to find in the world of free (as in beer but not as in speech) software.

Formerly AVG Free user, up until sometime after 7.5 reared its ugly resource-hogging head. After that, went Comodo Antivirus and Firewall (separately), later Comodo Internet Security, and now that my needs for a powerful software firewall are diminishing I just dumped the third party security software entirely. I'm not disappointed.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 04:07:27
Quote from: zwmalone;177722
I'd like to know how MSE is terrible? Low memory footprint, good detection... I fail to see the problem.


ITS NOT MADE BY IBM LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

Seriously though, a neighbour's computer had a dodgy hard drive which was rendering Windows inoperable (after about 6 boot cycles, Windows would refuse to boot, and would need to be reinstalled) so I decided to back up their data pending them buying a new system. They have three teenage sons with a penchant for limewire, and a bad taste in porn, so I updated and ran AVG before packing up the stuff to my disk. It picked up some stuff so I thought it was grand.

At the time, I think was running a cracked and old copy of NOD32 on my computer, and a scan picked up loads of stuff in the backup folder that the latest AVG with the latest definitions missed. Some time passed by (I told them to wait for Windows 7 to come out before getting a new system, which meant I had this stuff lying around for about a month and a half) and I had switched to Avira because my old NOD32 wouldn't update any more, and lo and behold it found things that the old NOD32 hadn't and that AVG didn't.

By the time they got their computer, I had changed to MSE (Avira had annoying pop-ups, and there was problems with their update server around the time I used it), and yes, MSE did find even more ****e still.

Other reasons why AVG sucks - it has lots of annoying pop ups and dialogs, it's big and clunky, and I've seen the updates screw up too many times. It also only handles viruses. MSE works quietly in the background and doesn't waste resources, and takes spyware on too.

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Of course, the best anti-virus is to get a Mac.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 01 May 2010, 04:49:08
Quote from: ch_123;177763
Of course, the best anti-virus is to get a Mac.


But only if you can get one of those Macs made by IBM.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 05:43:07
Well, an Apple Network Server had a PPC processor, and ran AIX, so for all intents and purposes it was an IBM Mac.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 01 May 2010, 06:17:20
I managed to get a variant of the Vundo Trojan on my ASUS netbook a few weeks ago and nothing I used could get rid of it. By the time I finally killed it I had gone through McAffee AntiVirus 2010, rkill, ESET Scanner, VundoFix, HijackThis, and MalwareBytes. I think MalwareBytes was the one that finally did it in and none of the regular actions on any of the standard actions of any of the programs would work right until I booted a bunch of times into safe mode on restart.

I'm pretty fond of MalwareBytes right now because I think that was what fixed it, but then again, I really don't know.

I have no idea how the hell I got a virus on that thing too. I only use it to check my work in IE8 which involves some GH breaks. I really don't think I got it here though.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 06:34:33
Any time I see "IE" in the description of the problem, I stop reading.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 01 May 2010, 06:56:37
Quote from: ch_123;177792
Any time I see "IE" in the description of the problem, I stop reading.


LOL. I wish I could do the same. I'm real careful not to use IE for anything except checking my work, which is why I'm so surprised I got infected though all it takes is one minute of not paying attention to go somewhere mean.

I have a Dell Latitude D600 with IE6, an ASUS netbook used for IE8 checks, and a virtual PC with IE7. Each of them does their own thing. I hate them all. There is rarely a difference in my sites when I check them on any version of a Mozilla browser regardless of version or computer. Safari's usually good too.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: didjamatic on Sat, 01 May 2010, 07:13:15
All browsers are a PITA.  Best antivirus I've ever used is Sophos in the enterprise, but would recommend MSE for home users since it's free and supported if your windows is legit.  Kaspersky is great, their detection is so early it really makes you wonder if they are in on the engineering of the viruses.  For removal of an already infected system, Malwarebytes is fantastic.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: Arc'xer on Sat, 01 May 2010, 15:32:26
I've found MSE to be great a lot better than AVG. Used a considerable amount of resources in some cases hitting 85-100K average. Only negative is the somewhat slow update time could just be an issue with lack of optimization of the update server or the traffic of other people updating.

Been using a combination of MSE as both scanner and real-time protection. With SuperAntiSpyware(been recommended over spybot since spybots has fallen by the way side) and Malwarebytes for additional scans without real-time protection for SAS and MBAM.

I haven't even had any conflicts or any issues and I've caught or prevented a few including that rogue installer that has affected XP, Vista, Win 7. The smart super anti-virus that acts like an official anti-virus program.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: iMav on Sat, 01 May 2010, 15:42:45
McAfee endpoint protection (ePO-managed virusscan, anti-spyware, anti-malware, Artemis, etc...not the consumer offerings) is top notch.  

Of course, I am a bit biased.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 01 May 2010, 16:18:41
Quote from: ch_123;177763
ITS NOT MADE BY IBM LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111


I actually did have some "IBM antivirus" on my aptiva. I hate aptivas, I threw it out, yes, I threw out an IBM computer.

And I agree that AVG is getting quite bloaty; but I used it back when it worked on windows 98 in 256 colours. It ran great!
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 16:23:09
I remember I had to install some McAfee enterprise AV on my laptop when I started college to get onto the network. The thing turned a C2D laptop with 4GB of RAM into a snail... Even uninstalling it afterwards didn't get undo the damage, and I had to wipe XP to get my laptop's performance back (at least when running Windows anyway)

Admittedly it was an old version (I can't remember quite how old but it definitely wasn't anything near recent), but my experience with them over the years has convinced me that all these big-name AVs are as bad as each other.

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I actually did have some "IBM antivirus" on my aptiva. I hate aptivas, I threw it out, yes, I threw out an IBM computer.


Yeah, I had an Aptiva many moons ago... it was pretty **** alright. It had Norton on it IIRC.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sat, 01 May 2010, 16:32:04
Protection software that in one way or another has proven itself to be bad, in my own experience:

(does not distinguish versions at all - some were old, some were new, some are "enterprise", some are "home", and so forth. not in any order at all)


I recommend MSE over any of these for antivirus purposes alone. Comodo's firewall is pretty nice and since they more or less merged it with their AV, the two go as a pair in my recommendation for them if you want a nice SW firewall (when needing to install software which phones home, but you know the phone home will only result in bad things...)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 16:33:20
Software firewalls? I almost forgot they existed... I find my routers filter out most of the crap coming in, and common sense filters the stuff that goes out...
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sat, 01 May 2010, 17:40:10
Quote from: ch_123;177900
Software firewalls? I almost forgot they existed... I find my routers filter out most of the crap coming in, and common sense filters the stuff that goes out...


Common sense can't specifically block a particular install wizard from going out.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 01 May 2010, 17:42:23
Use an OS with a package manager; profit.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sat, 01 May 2010, 17:50:12
Quote from: ch_123;177932
Use an OS with a package manager; profit.

But it's harder to pirate software on *nix!

Not that I would partake in such illegal and unethical behaviour...
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: Mith on Sun, 02 May 2010, 09:40:36
Ehh, I got same warnings from several pages here.
I'm also running Avast.

Some stuff on someone's signature might be false positive?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 02 May 2010, 12:48:15
Yup, y'all need better AV.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 02 May 2010, 14:16:46
Quote from: iMav;177884
McAfee endpoint protection (ePO-managed virusscan, anti-spyware, anti-malware, Artemis, etc...not the consumer offerings) is top notch.  

Of course, I am a bit biased.


LOL, do you work for McAfee or deploy their suite for enterprises?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 02 May 2010, 14:36:45
Quote from: hyperlinked;178182
LOL, do you work for McAfee or deploy their suite for enterprises?


I think he has said elsewhere that he works for them.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 02 May 2010, 14:40:40
Quote from: ch_123;177792
Any time I see "IE" in the description of the problem, I stop reading.


Ditto. The best AV is just not running Windows.
Title: Re: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: HaaTa on Sun, 02 May 2010, 16:20:30
ditto? Isn't that a Pokemon?

Gotta cat'chem all!!!
erm, AV software suites...
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 02 May 2010, 16:26:59
I was never really into Pokemon, but wasn't Ditto the one that could change into other Pokemon?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 02 May 2010, 16:29:23
Quote from: ironcoder;178195
Ditto. The best AV is just not running Windows.


Normally, I don't, but Photoshop sucks under wine.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sun, 02 May 2010, 17:35:10
Quote from: ironcoder;178195
Ditto. The best AV is just not running Windows.


Or running one of these.

(http://www.mmoabc.com/sites/default/files/old-blogs/my/M/i/c/hael/2007/11/26//1196059190797.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 02 May 2010, 17:47:34
Quote from: kishy;177899
Protection software that in one way or another has proven itself to be bad, in my own experience:

(does not distinguish versions at all - some were old, some were new, some are "enterprise", some are "home", and so forth. not in any order at all)

  • McAfee
  • Norton
  • Avast
  • AVG Free
  • Comodo, but far less than others...I still recommend this to anyone who wants a s/w firewall
  • ClamWin


I recommend MSE over any of these for antivirus purposes alone. Comodo's firewall is pretty nice and since they more or less merged it with their AV, the two go as a pair in my recommendation for them if you want a nice SW firewall (when needing to install software which phones home, but you know the phone home will only result in bad things...)


I tried microsoft security essentials or whatever it is, and it found NO viruses whatsoever (and there were viruses on the computer I was scanning - it was an HP lol). It was slow too.
Norton sucks because it doesn't scan everywhere, I'll explain:
On my 300PL there was a trojan (from the now non-existing theunderdogs.org/theunderdogs.info -- loved getting DOS games from there). And so I deleted the whole "temp" folder in windows into the recycling bin, but it wouldn't let me erase the file out of the recycling bin. So I set recycling bin space to zero, and, it deleted it all right! But it was still somehow in there, AVG found it, but norton never scans the recycling bin.
And norton also deleted some important windows files.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 02 May 2010, 17:59:52
Quote from: kishy;178285
Or running one of these.

Show Image
(http://www.mmoabc.com/sites/default/files/old-blogs/my/M/i/c/hael/2007/11/26//1196059190797.jpg)

Some kind of mildew/damp rot could affect the cardboard.

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I tried microsoft security essentials or whatever it is, and it found NO viruses whatsoever (and there were viruses on the computer I was scanning - it was an HP lol). It was slow too.

I've used this pic far too often over the past few months, but it is the only that can sum up my feelings sometimes -

(http://incredimazing.com/static/media/2009/11/12/Coolstorybro/CoolStoryBro.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 02 May 2010, 18:16:24
Quote from: ch_123;178297
I've used this pic far too often over the past few months, but it is the only that can sum up my feelings sometimes -


But if it was lavender, it'd be faster and wouldn't get viruses. Lavender has a proven anti-viral effect.

What the hell is that pic from?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 02 May 2010, 21:03:25
Quote from: ripster;178303
American's don't get irony.


They use it all the time. They just don't realise it. Like when they say "I could care less" when they mean "I couldn't care less." If you point out their error they sometimes claim they were being deliberately ironic (but we all know it wasn't intentional.)

Then there's that thing where they call a game football when they carry the ball in their hands mostly.

Or "have a nice day."  The list goes on. :usa::peace:
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sun, 02 May 2010, 21:20:43
Quote from: Rajagra;178327
"I could care less" when they mean "I couldn't care less."


Glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this particular type of ignorance.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ironcoder on Mon, 03 May 2010, 06:54:20
Quote from: kishy;178285
Or running one of these.

Show Image
(http://www.mmoabc.com/sites/default/files/old-blogs/my/M/i/c/hael/2007/11/26//1196059190797.jpg)


That's a pretty green setup, Kishy!
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 03 May 2010, 07:06:08
Of course, McAfee Endpoint Protection was the one that nuked svchost.exe on quite a few XP SP3 machines. ;)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: iMav on Mon, 03 May 2010, 08:51:39
Quote from: bhtooefr;178404
Of course, McAfee Endpoint Protection was the one that nuked svchost.exe on quite a few XP SP3 machines. ;)


Shhhhhh!

;)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 03 May 2010, 09:02:37
It was iMav's fault.  He got tired of all the Apple bashing.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 08 May 2010, 18:17:57
(http://www.toxin.org/lj/apple_bash.jpg)
You all know, that would make my arm tired.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 08 May 2010, 20:22:52
Apple should change its logo to something that can't be bashed.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Applesauce.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 09 May 2010, 12:17:18
How about somebody just launches Steve Jobs and Crapple to Mars and we won't have to deal with them again.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 09 May 2010, 15:00:17
Quote from: microsoft windows;180424
How about somebody just launches Steve Jobs and Crapple to Mars and we won't have to deal with them again.


Can we do that to you instead?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Sun, 09 May 2010, 15:06:08
Quote from: ch_123;180466
Can we do that to you instead?


I dunno CH...I'd rather have MW around than Steve Jobs.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 09 May 2010, 15:19:42
You can say what you want about Apple and it's crazy arrogance, but do you think, for example, MP3 players would be so common if the iPod hadn't blasted them into the stratosphere? Or what about computer GUIs? The list is quite long really.

They do make some very questionable products, but they have, and will continue to give the tech industry a well needed kick up the arse every now and then.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 10 May 2010, 03:32:32
Quote from: ch_123;180472
You can say what you want about Apple and it's crazy arrogance, but do you think, for example, MP3 players would be so common if the iPod hadn't blasted them into the stratosphere?


Yes.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 10 May 2010, 03:46:13
My understanding is that they were around for quite a long time before the iPod, and no one wanted them.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 10 May 2010, 04:24:02
Quote from: ch_123;180472
You can say what you want about Apple and it's crazy arrogance, but do you think, for example, MP3 players would be so common if the iPod hadn't blasted them into the stratosphere? Or what about computer GUIs? The list is quite long really.

They do make some very questionable products, but they have, and will continue to give the tech industry a well needed kick up the arse every now and then.

As popular? Probably not. Still popular? Yes. Both myself, and many non-geeky non-techie friends and acquaintances had them well before Apple brought out the iPod. That said, when used without bloody iTunes (Winamp works well), it's a good product.

Ironic thing is, I use a Palm Tungsten E2 as my media player now... No other use for it.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Mon, 10 May 2010, 12:43:22
Quote from: InSanCen;180628
As popular? Probably not. Still popular? Yes. Both myself, and many non-geeky non-techie friends and acquaintances had them well before Apple brought out the iPod. That said, when used without bloody iTunes (Winamp works well), it's a good product.

Ironic thing is, I use a Palm Tungsten E2 as my media player now... No other use for it.

iTunes is a truly miserable piece of software. I really can't wrap my head around how so many people just use it without complaint.

Oh well...simple, featureless, poorly designed software for people of the same nature, I suppose.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 10 May 2010, 12:45:13
Depends on how much you expect of your music software. If you just want something that lets you search through your collection and play some songs, it's grand.

I regret buying my iPod, it's a terrible piece of crap.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Mon, 10 May 2010, 12:54:11
Quote from: ch_123;180746
Depends on how much you expect of your music software. If you just want something that lets you search through your collection and play some songs, it's grand.

I regret buying my iPod, it's a terrible piece of crap.

Re: iTunes, that's all I expect of my software and found it pretty bad at even that (I have tried it, because before I bash on stuff I like to evaluate it first). Winamp 5.35 is my preference...anything older in the 5.x series has stability issues, anything newer has some interface stuff I can't tolerate like the tagging system.

What generation and model iPod? Ultimately I do think there have been good iPods, but with their lack of integrated features the price has always been too high.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 10 May 2010, 12:55:32
6th. Sound quality is atrocious compared with the iRiver H320 it replaced, and I've had various reliability problem. The headphone jack is also screwing up. Might replace it with a Cowon and relegate it to being a portable hard drive :p
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Mon, 10 May 2010, 13:11:28
Quote from: ch_123;180751
6th. Sound quality is atrocious compared with the iRiver H320 it replaced, and I've had various reliability problem. The headphone jack is also screwing up. Might replace it with a Cowon and relegate it to being a portable hard drive :p


Gah, sound quality...I have yet to hear any iPod with decent sound quality on the included earbuds or my own headphones (previously Sony MDR-G42LP, now MDR-G45...both cheap sets, but they sound brilliant on my laptop or Creative players, so I'll say it's the iPod putting out crappy sound to begin with).

Sorry to hear about headphone jack issues though, that pretty much renders it unusable (if the sound quality didn't bother you enough as it was).

Could always experiment with rockbox on it.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 10 May 2010, 13:18:47
I can't justify or afford being a head-fi guy with tube amps, stacks of vinyl and a myriad of speakers and headphones so I don't know what it's like.

BUT, with MP3's at 320k and someone good like Pink Floyd on my iPhone using Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10's (http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-Isolating-Earphones-Microphone/dp/B001DCBBHK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1273515421&sr=8-2) I absolutely love it.  It makes my commute very tolerable.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 10 May 2010, 13:22:40
Quote from: kishy;180759
Gah, sound quality...I have yet to hear any iPod with decent sound quality on the included earbuds or my own headphones (previously Sony MDR-G42LP, now MDR-G45...both cheap sets, but they sound brilliant on my laptop or Creative players, so I'll say it's the iPod putting out crappy sound to begin with).

Sorry to hear about headphone jack issues though, that pretty much renders it unusable (if the sound quality didn't bother you enough as it was).

Could always experiment with rockbox on it.


Unfortunately Gen 5 is the last generation that Rockbox supports.

The jack issue is to do with the fact that the iPod pauses when you remove the headphone connector. Problem is that after nearly two years of use, the sensor has got worn away, so movements on the cable cause the thing to treat it as if the cable has been removed. Ironically, removing the cable often fails to pause it.

Even a relatively basic pair of Senheiser CX300s will show up the terrible sound quality on it. And these were the exact same MP3s I was using on my iRiver, so that's not the issue there.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 10 May 2010, 14:06:38
The other half's iPod is a Nano 2G. I use the latest Winamp, but it just works. Plays my media, syncs her iPod (Even she can make a playlist, highlight, Send To, and eject when it's done). It just works.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: kishy on Mon, 10 May 2010, 14:10:03
I've never used the sync functions of Winamp...in fact upon initial install I go and remove a very large number of included plugins, including all media player support.

The beauty of players that can be browsed in Windows Explorer...
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 11 May 2010, 09:31:50
Just got it again. Visiting this page.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=8271&page=7
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 11 May 2010, 10:01:29
Quote from: ch_123;180765
Even a relatively basic pair of Senheiser CX300s will show up the terrible sound quality on it. And these were the exact same MP3s I was using on my iRiver, so that's not the issue there.

Do you have the EQ turned on by any chance? Apple players are notorious for their lack of processing headroom.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 11 May 2010, 12:18:19
I did. The EQ definitely made it sound better though.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 12:24:50
I've found the same thing on my GF's iPhone 3GS.  My classic is not as bad, and the line out (dock) is pretty decent.  The line out on the iPhone sucks donkey balls.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 12:32:12
Quote from: ripster;181060
Why are we talking about iPods in a Avast thread?

Why do you even ask such a question?
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 12:59:18
Oh, I thought the topics were just something to take up the heading space in thread list.  I didn't know we were supposed to talk about them.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 13:17:43
I am the virus in the thread.
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 13:36:24
You know me.  I like to follow up a SPAMburger with a bowl of warm Spotted ****.

(http://blogs.houstonpress.com/eating/Spotted_****475.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 13:37:37
We've worn that pic out. Here's another, if not as nice.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GB7FeK0WL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: False Positive? Avast! warning on GH
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 11 May 2010, 14:45:34
I think that's the old can.  We are currently carrying the blue one.  Either that, or it's been on the shelf for a very long time.  The printing on the purple on looks "moist."  There's nothing like some moist, spotted ****.  There is nothing "delightful" about it, though.