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Title: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 25 December 2018, 19:28:16
So I have a 4GB EVGA GTX770. In the past 5 or 6 months, games seem to be crashing more and more often. It started with only PUBG crashing pretty much once per game, but now other games are starting to crash as well. No components are overheating and all my drivers are updated, so I believe it's a problem with the stability or something of the card. I've tried underclocking it, which was suggested to me from someone else experiencing the same issues in PUBG, which may have helped a tiny bit (also may have just been a placebo)? As old as the card is, it still pretty much runs everything at high, so I'd really like to hang on to it, so any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 25 December 2018, 19:43:10
install a test copy of Win 7, and 2 yr old gfx drivers.

then run furmark.. if it's crashing,  then you know it's hardware.

may or may not be gpu
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 25 December 2018, 20:41:53
If you still have a hard disk (not ssd) it's far more likely to be a drive problem than a graphics card problem.

The video card would actually one of the last things I would test as they tend to be pretty reliable (other than the older bad solder ones).  Also, while no temp sensors show a temp issue, you can still be over heating the voltage regulators or the power supply or any number of things. If nothing seems hot, try and figure out if it's stress/load based or resource based crashing. In other words is it when the CPU or GPU goes under load or if it's only when loading up the ram or video memory.

Again, I would be checking the spinner drive before anything else if you have one. Mechanical parts tend to fail at a FAR higher rate than electronic parts.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 21:13:24
If you still have a hard disk (not ssd) it's far more likely to be a drive problem than a graphics card problem.

The video card would actually one of the last things I would test as they tend to be pretty reliable (other than the older bad solder ones).  Also, while no temp sensors show a temp issue, you can still be over heating the voltage regulators or the power supply or any number of things. If nothing seems hot, try and figure out if it's stress/load based or resource based crashing. In other words is it when the CPU or GPU goes under load or if it's only when loading up the ram or video memory.

Again, I would be checking the spinner drive before anything else if you have one. Mechanical parts tend to fail at a FAR higher rate than electronic parts.

Well I do still have an HDD, but two of the biggest games I'm having issues with are on my SSD. Even then, the HDD is like a year old. When it crashes, it's never when on things that are particularly resource-heavy, and not at times when loading in lots of resources, if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 26 December 2018, 21:32:20
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Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 26 December 2018, 21:52:01
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770 doesn't even have h265 decode block.. so... prettty much let it go..
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 22:03:22
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770 doesn't even have h265 decode block.. so... prettty much let it go..

I mean if y'all wanna send me $350 for a new 1070ti, be my guest
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 27 December 2018, 02:25:51
Well I do still have an HDD, but two of the biggest games I'm having issues with are on my SSD. Even then, the HDD is like a year old. When it crashes, it's never when on things that are particularly resource-heavy, and not at times when loading in lots of resources, if that's what you mean.

I would be running a cpu stress test and a memory test.
It never hurts to check SMART data on a drive., if only to be sure, but also, it may be caching to it.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 27 December 2018, 10:57:25
Well I do still have an HDD, but two of the biggest games I'm having issues with are on my SSD. Even then, the HDD is like a year old. When it crashes, it's never when on things that are particularly resource-heavy, and not at times when loading in lots of resources, if that's what you mean.

I would be running a cpu stress test and a memory test.
It never hurts to check SMART data on a drive., if only to be sure, but also, it may be caching to it.

Wanna do this on a Fresh Win 7 install w/ OLD drivers just to rule out software.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:15:10
Well I do still have an HDD, but two of the biggest games I'm having issues with are on my SSD. Even then, the HDD is like a year old. When it crashes, it's never when on things that are particularly resource-heavy, and not at times when loading in lots of resources, if that's what you mean.

I would be running a cpu stress test and a memory test.
It never hurts to check SMART data on a drive., if only to be sure, but also, it may be caching to it.
So I'll test with HWiNFO and OCCT later today. Right now, the HDD seems to be fine though:

(https://i.imgur.com/OPhYF8t.png)
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:16:19
Wanna do this on a Fresh Win 7 install w/ OLD drivers just to rule out software.

gonna be real with you, that sounds like hella work
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:46:25
Wanna do this on a Fresh Win 7 install w/ OLD drivers just to rule out software.

gonna be real with you, that sounds like hella work


Welp.. time to buy new computer then.. you've still got that extra kidney.

(https://i.imgur.com/RSB9WCf.gif)
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 19:00:07
Wanna do this on a Fresh Win 7 install w/ OLD drivers just to rule out software.

gonna be real with you, that sounds like hella work


Welp.. time to buy new computer then.. you've still got that extra kidney.

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Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 27 December 2018, 19:08:34
I guess I forgot to click post earlier.

I had a similar issue with my GTX 760. IIRC it crashed in games a few times, and then it completely crashed my computer mid-game (completely off, not to a blue screen). After that, my computer wouldn't power up: it didn't post or light up. It was as though the computer had been unplugged. My computer wouldn't power up until I removed the card.

I never did get it working again. I just had to put a different card in. There were a few blown transistors on it, but those had actually been there for over a year with no issues (I'm assuming they were from a PSU issue I'd had a few years prior). I'm not sure if another one blew and it was the final straw. Anyway, it might be worth pulling the card out and inspecting the PCB. You could also blow the dust out of it and put new thermal paste on the GPU while you're at it.

Do you get any error messages when the game crashes? Do you get any useful information in the Windows Event Log after a crash? In my experience, RAM issues usually result in a BSOD, but you could run Memtest86 just to be sure (I think I had to do this with each DIMM separately to find the bad one, since the program just sees a pool of memory). If the game is on a SSD, I wouldn't suspect the storage.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 19:12:41
I guess I forgot to click post earlier.

I had a similar issue with my GTX 760. IIRC it crashed in games a few times, and then it completely crashed my computer mid-game (completely off, not to a blue screen). After that, my computer wouldn't power up: it didn't post or light up. It was as though the computer had been unplugged. My computer wouldn't power up until I removed the card.

I never did get it working again. I just had to put a different card in. There were a few blown transistors on it, but those had actually been there for over a year with no issues (I'm assuming they were from a PSU issue I'd had a few years prior). I'm not sure if another one blew and it was the final straw. Anyway, it might be worth pulling the card out and inspecting the PCB. You could also blow the dust out of it and put new thermal paste on the GPU while you're at it.

Do you get any error messages when the game crashes? Do you get any useful information in the Windows Event Log after a crash? In my experience, RAM issues usually result in a BSOD, but you could run Memtest86 just to be sure (I think I had to do this with each DIMM separately to find the bad one, since the program just sees a pool of memory). If the game is on a SSD, I wouldn't suspect the storage.

Oh wow, yeah you seemed to have a much more serious problem. So the a game like PUBG will freeze, then after some atl+tab mashing will finally close and give me a "send crash report" prompt. That's the closest thing I get, no error messages detailing anything. Yeah, all the games I have problems with are on the SSD anyway.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 December 2018, 17:02:40
Well I do still have an HDD, but two of the biggest games I'm having issues with are on my SSD. Even then, the HDD is like a year old. When it crashes, it's never when on things that are particularly resource-heavy, and not at times when loading in lots of resources, if that's what you mean.

I would be running a cpu stress test and a memory test.
It never hurts to check SMART data on a drive., if only to be sure, but also, it may be caching to it.

Yeah so I'm an idiot, my PC might just be running too hot, CPU/mobo hitting low 80s at load Ok that's still a problem, but I just had Borderlands 1 crash after 20 minutes, so a real light load, with the CPU at like 50 degrees celcius. If you have any experience with OCCT, which numbers do you think I should be looking at? It gave me like 20 screencaps of different metrics for the CPU test and I'm not really sure what to make of them.
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 30 December 2018, 17:12:38

Yeah so I'm an idiot, my PC might just be running too hot, CPU/mobo hitting low 80s at load. If you have any experience with OCCT, which numbers do you think I should be looking at? It gave me like 20 screencaps of different metrics for the CPU test and I'm not really sure what to make of them.

How's this possible. !
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 30 December 2018, 17:31:41

Yeah so I'm an idiot, my PC might just be running too hot, CPU/mobo hitting low 80s at load. If you have any experience with OCCT, which numbers do you think I should be looking at? It gave me like 20 screencaps of different metrics for the CPU test and I'm not really sure what to make of them.

How's this possible. !

how is what possible? also jesus christ how have they let you on here long enough for you to rack up 12,000 non-off topic posts :confused: :confused: :confused:




 :-*
Title: Re: GTX 770 Dying?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 30 December 2018, 17:33:40

Yeah so I'm an idiot, my PC might just be running too hot, CPU/mobo hitting low 80s at load. If you have any experience with OCCT, which numbers do you think I should be looking at? It gave me like 20 screencaps of different metrics for the CPU test and I'm not really sure what to make of them.

How's this possible. !

how is what possible? also jesus christ how have they let you on here long enough for you to rack up 12,000 non-off topic posts :confused: :confused: :confused:




 :-*

nah... Tp4 = Epic Skillz.. !!