Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:06:07
Hi, everyone. It's been a long time that I got obsessed with the HHKB layout keyboards. But I get used to have arrows on the right side of the keyboard and I tried HHKB layout but failed. Now all my keyboards have individual arrow keys. I'm really jealous of guys who can use such a nice layout keyboard.
Recently I was wondering if it's possible to keep arrow keys and make a hhkb like 40% layout keyboard. The idea is stupid, but I really want to try something interesting. So I designed a 40% HHKB layout. I call it Dimple because it got the HHKB looks but much smaller inner corners.
Here are some renders:
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6b745ee83e2.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6b745f1fb5c.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6b745ef0151.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6b745ed2030.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6b745f89d1e.jpg)
The layout
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/19/5c6bac4f6402e.png)
Here is a render with 2.25 Enter
(https://i.loli.net/2019/02/20/5c6d2794f095c.jpg)
The kit inlcudes:
1. Aluminum case. Single case with no weight.
2. Brass plate.
3. PCB with RGB and hotswap
4. Switch puller with good quality
5. Rubber feet and screws
If you guys have any suggestion, feel free to comment.
Meanwhile I'm working on the R2 of THE50. I will make some modification of the design according to the feedbacks from R1 users. I will open other IC of THE50 R2 after I get the jobs done.
Update CNC sample (Mar 29)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/03/29/5c9daed7c2b67.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/03/29/5c9daed7ed040.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/03/29/5c9daf903cad9.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/03/29/5c9daf90465eb.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/03/29/5c9daf905b9a2.jpg)
Updated pink sample
(https://i.loli.net/2019/04/03/5ca42469286d8.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/04/03/5ca4246935c42.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/04/03/5ca424695e012.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/04/03/5ca42469607c5.jpg)
(https://i.loli.net/2019/04/03/5ca4246961a39.jpg)
Estimated Price:
140-150USD for whole kit, exlcuding shipment fee and PayPal fee.
ETA：
Spots would be ready in May. 100 spots are made.
Final color option: Black/Gray/Silver/Gray Blue/Pink
Weights:
Without brass plate, Dimple weighs about 700g after fully assembled.
The brass plate weighs about 110g.
I will open plate's CAD file for users to customize plates. if you want to control the weight, you can find someone to laser cut a carbon fiber plate.
Special thanks to Mikethetiger_, he started a 40% keeb discord server to improve communications between 40% keeb users inside the community. I got a lot of inspirations from him.
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:07:47
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:10:33
what's with all the cool 40s lately
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 19 February 2019, 01:30:31
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 19 February 2019, 05:31:22
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 06:10:02
Congrats Jacky. You nailed the layout on this one. ;)
Hope I do it right this time. :)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 February 2019, 08:15:19
PS: consider 2x 1.5 for the left side of the bottom row too, please. Not a big fan of 1u keys, personally.
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Tue, 19 February 2019, 09:50:26
Post by: LXVRGS on Tue, 19 February 2019, 09:55:19
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Tue, 19 February 2019, 10:04:37
Post by: Fabi on Tue, 19 February 2019, 10:54:58
By the way, I don't think that I am good at making PCB s, it's just fun to do though ;)
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 19 February 2019, 11:42:35
No weight makes sense for a small portable keyboard. IMO the obsession with weight has gone too far these days for no additional practical benefits.
On the other hand, is it a sandwich construction? How low will the front end be? Asking because it’s easy to make 40% feel too thick.
Post by: Sent on Tue, 19 February 2019, 12:09:23
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 February 2019, 15:14:01
Waiting :)
Post by: Beatnutz on Tue, 19 February 2019, 15:32:32
Post by: The_Royal on Tue, 19 February 2019, 16:32:44
I would prob just use the bottom 1.75u as enter since I use “Ortho” layouts a lot anyway and that’s where it normaly is located.
But Do any key-sets currently have 1.25u “Enter” Keys?
Post by: Fabi on Tue, 19 February 2019, 17:00:02
I love this layout and concept.
I would prob just use the bottom 1.75u as enter since I use “Ortho” layouts a lot anyway and that’s where it normaly is located.
But Do any key-sets currently have 1.25u “Enter” Keys?
Didn't notice. Good point.
Post by: donut_sauce on Tue, 19 February 2019, 17:18:43
Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Tue, 19 February 2019, 17:41:35
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Post by: meidodoragon on Tue, 19 February 2019, 17:56:02
Edit: Typo. Didn't see autoreplace not going through...
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Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:50:10
This is right up my alley, I'm definitely interested in participating. Well done, the design and layout are both super cool.
PS: consider 2x 1.5 for the left side of the bottom row too, please. Not a big fan of 1u keys, personally.
Thanks for the advice! I actually want bigger left modifiers too, but there are some constraints. If the layout use two keys on the left side of the spacebar, you have to put one modifier on the right side, so there would not have room for direct arrow keys anymore. The purpose of this layout is to put individual arrow keys on HHKB looks 40% keeb.
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:55:09
YES. I can attest that Trabbit's layout sense is spot on. THE50 is my go-to board right now, even though I'm trying for it not to be. What the heck?
Thanks man. I'm happy to make interesting keebs for you guys.
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:01:16
Nice one, although not sure if the layout is for me, any estimated price ? :)
Not sure by now, I will finish the design ASAP and get quote from Vendors. But I hope it will come out with those features at a price of 150USD without shipment fee.
BTW, good job done on Waves man!
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:11:06
At the moment l was working on a very similar pcd layout (a nasty person might have called it a jd45 copy). I guess I will just give you my money now ;) ... But what am I gonna do now with my time ...
By the way, I don't think that I am good at making PCB s, it's just fun to do though ;)
I think you should do it. One thing I learned from Mike's 40% keebs discord server is the community should offer more solutions for keeb lovers, so they can do the way they like. Let's work on that.
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:17:50
Very cool idea! Regarding the style, would you consider (1) matching the bezels in the front and back (2) a JD45 style 6.25u spacebar married with your layout if that’s your thing?
No weight makes sense for a small portable keyboard. IMO the obsession with weight has gone too far these days for no additional practical benefits.
On the other hand, is it a sandwich construction? How low will the front end be? Asking because it’s easy to make 40% feel too thick.
I will have a detail picture of structure after I finished the design. I want to make it one single case. The height of the front will definitely less that 20mm.
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:45:23
I love this layout and concept.
I would prob just use the bottom 1.75u as enter since I use “Ortho” layouts a lot anyway and that’s where it normaly is located.
But Do any key-sets currently have 1.25u “Enter” Keys?
That's one problem with this layout. Actually I want to use a full 2.25 enter but it's kind of big for small keeb layout like this.
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:47:57
Nice design. :thumb:
Post by: GigaFlop on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:52:49
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 February 2019, 21:09:51
Thanks for the advice! I actually want bigger left modifiers too, but there are some constraints. If the layout use two keys on the left side of the spacebar, you have to put one modifier on the right side, so there would not have room for direct arrow keys anymore. The purpose of this layout is to put individual arrow keys on HHKB looks 40% keeb.
If such a constraint does exist, then I'll live with the triple 1u. Of course the arrows are the point, and that's the main selling point for me too, I just figured I'd ask if double 1.5 left would work. My only other qualm with this is the lack of a 2.25 enter like Royal mentioned since the smaller one is basically the only key here that's actually hard to come by (eg. not in the GMK base kits) afaik, however I really don't think you have a choice there hence I didn't even mention it in my first post.
PS: the target price is very attractive, hopefully it's not too ambitious. Anywhere around that estimate would be a big win for you (and all of us prospect buyers).
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 19 February 2019, 21:25:18
Post by: byoliven on Tue, 19 February 2019, 21:32:56
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 19 February 2019, 23:28:52
What I am concerning is, two 1.75u shift are needed (the right FN key in the IC Picture should be 1.75, right?). I cannot find two of them in any of my GMK Keyset :(
That can be a challenge to find GMK keys to cover the right side 175u. I looked at Jamón and you can get the coverage with base and forties kits. Which is what us 40% users have to do to get the keys we need.
Post by: leexy on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:34:01
Post by: trabbit on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:50:36
Thanks for the advice! I actually want bigger left modifiers too, but there are some constraints. If the layout use two keys on the left side of the spacebar, you have to put one modifier on the right side, so there would not have room for direct arrow keys anymore. The purpose of this layout is to put individual arrow keys on HHKB looks 40% keeb.
If such a constraint does exist, then I'll live with the triple 1u. Of course the arrows are the point, and that's the main selling point for me too, I just figured I'd ask if double 1.5 left would work. My only other qualm with this is the lack of a 2.25 enter like Royal mentioned since the smaller one is basically the only key here that's actually hard to come by (eg. not in the GMK base kits) afaik, however I really don't think you have a choice there hence I didn't even mention it in my first post.
PS: the target price is very attractive, hopefully it's not too ambitious. Anywhere around that estimate would be a big win for you (and all of us prospect buyers).
Yes, the Enter is a problem. I will do a 2.25U enter render, to see if it looks good. In Cherry profile keycap sets, R3 1.25u is rare. I think pressing 1.25u enter won't be a problem but the keycap does.
Post by: trabbit on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:54:29
What I am concerning is, two 1.75u shift are needed (the right FN key in the IC Picture should be 1.75, right?). I cannot find two of them in any of my GMK Keyset :(
Well, I think that maybe a problem too.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 20 February 2019, 01:00:03
This is right up my alley, I'm definitely interested in participating. Well done, the design and layout are both super cool.I agree, 2x1.5 keys in the bottom row would be great.
PS: consider 2x 1.5 for the left side of the bottom row too, please. Not a big fan of 1u keys, personally.
Otherwise I am definitely in, really cool 40%
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Post by: sandragm on Thu, 21 February 2019, 12:28:28
Post by: prod on Sat, 23 February 2019, 04:40:21
Post by: prod on Sat, 23 February 2019, 04:46:14
It's awosome! I also think it will be better if the bottom row can compatible with 2*1.5u in the left side.
In the second bottom I think if you can change the 1.75shift to 1.5shift, other on the right all use 1u, it may more easy for the keycaps.
Post by: tectonicplate on Sat, 23 February 2019, 09:10:10
I agree with the logistics of the 2.25 Enter, however, I'd like to suggest for that to be an option… so people can choose between a 1.25 or a 2.25 Enter. The GNAP!/UT47 share the (2) R3 1.25 layout… hardcore small-board people are not phased by that kind of thing, they eat R3 1.25 keys for breakfast. That extra semicolon key would probably be the difference in having this be a workhorse board vs. a casual-use board for me. So basically, I love the OG layout, and support the 2.25 Enter as an option to appease the masses.
I can live without hot swap… actually prefer not having it at all with this board.
Excellent board concept, looking forward to see where this goes.
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 23 February 2019, 09:20:42
It's awosome! I also think it will be better if the bottom row can compatible with 2*1.5u in the left side.
Thanks, bro. Since the PCB will use hot-swap sockets, there should be one layout only. I said above, if only two keys on the left, then one of ctrl\alt\win should be on the right side, so there won't be an individual arrow key section. That's definitely not I design dimple for.
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 23 February 2019, 09:51:00
This is great, one of the few 40s I can see being able to use for work. Arrow cluster and bottom row is perfect.
I agree with the logistics of the 2.25 Enter, however, I'd like to suggest for that to be an option… so people can choose between a 1.25 or a 2.25 Enter. The GNAP!/UT47 share the (2) R3 1.25 layout… hardcore small-board people are not phased by that kind of thing, they eat R3 1.25 keys for breakfast. That extra semicolon key would probably be the difference in having this be a workhorse board vs. a casual-use board for me. So basically, I love the OG layout, and support the 2.25 Enter as an option to appease the masses.
I can live without hot swap… actually prefer not having it at all with this board.
Excellent board concept, looking forward to see where this goes.
Thanks man! I appreciate that. I laughed when I read your comment. My friend said something just like that: whatever layout you design, I have seen worse. We 40% keeb lovers bear any kind keycap issues.
Hot-swap + RGB may be interesting, and attractive to some newcomers. I know it's not so important to those who really like small keebs.
I guess I have to choose between 1.25u enter and 2.25u enter and take the blame.
Post by: Baron on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:52:56
But I hope it will come out with those features at a price of 150USD without shipment fee.
that would be absolutely amazing
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 23 February 2019, 22:38:59
Post by: prod on Sun, 24 February 2019, 07:13:34
这样啊，英文太差没看全It's awosome! I also think it will be better if the bottom row can compatible with 2*1.5u in the left side.
Thanks, bro. Since the PCB will use hot-swap sockets, there should be one layout only. I said above, if only two keys on the left, then one of ctrl\alt\win should be on the right side, so there won't be an individual arrow key section. That's definitely not I design dimple for.
，期待打样！I see, looking forward to more pic!
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 24 February 2019, 07:31:59
This is great, one of the few 40s I can see being able to use for work. Arrow cluster and bottom row is perfect.
I agree with the logistics of the 2.25 Enter, however, I'd like to suggest for that to be an option… so people can choose between a 1.25 or a 2.25 Enter. The GNAP!/UT47 share the (2) R3 1.25 layout… hardcore small-board people are not phased by that kind of thing, they eat R3 1.25 keys for breakfast. That extra semicolon key would probably be the difference in having this be a workhorse board vs. a casual-use board for me. So basically, I love the OG layout, and support the 2.25 Enter as an option to appease the masses.
I can live without hot swap… actually prefer not having it at all with this board.
Excellent board concept, looking forward to see where this goes.
Thanks man! I appreciate that. I laughed when I read your comment. My friend said something just like that: whatever layout you design, I have seen worse. We 40% keeb lovers bear any kind keycap issues.
Hot-swap + RGB may be interesting, and attractive to some newcomers. I know it's not so important to those who really like small keebs.
I guess I have to choose between 1.25u enter and 2.25u enter and take the blame.
Laugh the same. :D :D
Also respect every decision. It's really hard to make tho.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sun, 24 February 2019, 23:21:57
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sun, 24 February 2019, 23:41:37
In addition to the suggestions offered above, would you be interested in making it possible to swap the positions of "Up" and right Fn keys? That would be more like a "typical" 40% layout (JD40 etc)I'll agree, it's be great if possible.....I consider the JD40, the BEST 40% MKB ever!!!
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Post by: MMKB on Sun, 24 February 2019, 23:59:28
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KLE link:
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Edit: you could also make the blockers symmetric by keeping them both 1u. However the HHKB is not perfectly symmetric either.
Post by: trabbit on Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:30:53
My attempt at solving the Shift keys problem as well as throwing in a {[ and a 1.75 Enter. :)
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KLE link:Morehttp://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23828282&t=%23ffffff%3B&=Esc&_c=%23cccccc&t=%23000000%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&_c=%23828282&t=%23ffffff%3B&=Back%3Cbr%3ESpace%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Tab&_c=%23cccccc&t=%23000000%3B&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&_c=%23828282&t=%23ffffff&w:1.75%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Shift&_c=%23cccccc&t=%23000000%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&_c=%23828282&t=%23ffffff%3B&=↑&_w:1.25%3B&=Shift&=Fn%3B&@_x:1%3B&=Ctrl&=Alt&=Meta&_c=%23cccccc&t=%23000000&a:7&w:2.25%3B&=&_w:2.75%3B&=&_c=%23828282&t=%23ffffff&a:4%3B&=←&=↓&=→
Edit: you could also make the blockers symmetric by keeping them both 1u. However the HHKB is not perfectly symmetric either.
Thanks man. I have discussed with my friends about possible layouts to solve those issues. Yours is one of them. It's too pearl-like so we think we're gonna pass that.
Post by: Tommicorn on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:25:14
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 26 February 2019, 19:33:49
This looks great! I really love my THE50 and I will definitively try and get one if this goes to group buy.
Thanks man. I really appreciate that.
Post by: trabbit on Fri, 29 March 2019, 00:47:20
Post by: Baron on Fri, 29 March 2019, 10:36:26
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:16:59
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:30:25
Is there any chance at all of making a non-hotswap PCB?
Post by: meidodoragon on Fri, 29 March 2019, 21:54:30
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 30 March 2019, 00:49:12
Oooh. nice! Still interested in this GB, as I like the layout and design. Especially if it'll be under $200. It'll be nice to have another hot-swap in the rotation for trying switches as well.
$200? OH MAN! I think I offered a way too low price of $140-150
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 30 March 2019, 00:51:17
Looks great. Nice layout and excellent price.
Is there any chance at all of making a non-hotswap PCB?
All PCB will have hot swap this time. Sorry about that.
Post by: meidodoragon on Sat, 30 March 2019, 03:09:24
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Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 30 March 2019, 05:10:25
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 30 March 2019, 08:34:51
Haha, I'm assuming that it will be about 200 after shipping, that's why. I've already made that mistake in mechmarket. XD
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Oh, I see. Now it's about $170 after shipping.
Post by: meidodoragon on Sat, 30 March 2019, 11:47:20
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Post by: Baron on Sat, 30 March 2019, 12:47:02
Oh, I see. Now it's about $170 after shipping.
thats still really great
Post by: Visionaire on Sat, 30 March 2019, 13:43:11
Post by: Baron on Tue, 02 April 2019, 12:29:56
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 02 April 2019, 22:15:03
what colors do you think you'd be offering?
Black/Gray/Silver/Blue Gray are sure.
Updated a new pink color, I think it's doable
Post by: 94smart on Wed, 03 April 2019, 04:33:06
Post by: calveeen on Wed, 03 April 2019, 05:54:00
Post by: Baron on Wed, 03 April 2019, 08:39:15
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 03 April 2019, 09:14:09
Post by: trabbit on Wed, 03 April 2019, 20:25:28
I like this design a lot. I wish there was some way to move the screws that hold the PCB into the case. They seem to primarily be in spots that you will always see from a typing position. Maybe we can get brass screws to match the plate?
Are you serious? You can see that through keycaps in the picture?
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Wed, 03 April 2019, 22:39:32
With cherry keycaps, yes, you’d be able to see. DSA has a tighter gap right? But you placed the screws close to corners and the bottom row, so they might not be visible even with cherry or oemI like this design a lot. I wish there was some way to move the screws that hold the PCB into the case. They seem to primarily be in spots that you will always see from a typing position. Maybe we can get brass screws to match the plate?
Are you serious? You can see that through keycaps in the picture?
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 04 April 2019, 01:16:01
With cherry keycaps, yes, you’d be able to see. DSA has a tighter gap right? But you placed the screws close to corners and the bottom row, so they might not be visible even with cherry or oemI like this design a lot. I wish there was some way to move the screws that hold the PCB into the case. They seem to primarily be in spots that you will always see from a typing position. Maybe we can get brass screws to match the plate?
Are you serious? You can see that through keycaps in the picture?
Yes, just two screws on the upside of the interior are between two keycaps, others are basically all under keycaps.
But it have to be close enough to see. With normal typing gesture and also in the photo, it won't be noticeable.
Post by: Baron on Thu, 04 April 2019, 18:44:27
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 04 April 2019, 20:06:07
Post by: byoliven on Thu, 04 April 2019, 21:48:48
Which should look amazing for all my keycaps with GMK DY color!
Post by: rowie on Thu, 04 April 2019, 22:01:10
Post by: BserLarry on Tue, 09 April 2019, 09:56:50
It’s such a commonly used key that I think it warrants being in the standard layout beside the “ > .” Key:-)
Other than that, I’m happy with it!
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 09 April 2019, 11:14:16
I like the 40% layout but may I suggesting the addition of a “? /“ key in the standard layout?
It’s such a commonly used key that I think it warrants being in the standard layout beside the “ > .” Key:-)
Other than that, I’m happy with it!
I believe the idea is you just use QMK for tap key on that one. Tap for Question mark, hold for shift. The 2u shift looks nice and I doubt you'd notice the difference in touch typing.
I'd personally not use the arrow cluster there, b/c I'm too used to the minivan arrows in the JKL; position. But you can use those bottom keys for all kinds of handy things like layer toggles.
Post by: BserLarry on Tue, 09 April 2019, 12:36:51
I like the 40% layout but may I suggesting the addition of a “? /“ key in the standard layout?
It’s such a commonly used key that I think it warrants being in the standard layout beside the “ > .” Key:-)
Other than that, I’m happy with it!
I believe the idea is you just use QMK for tap key on that one. Tap for Question mark, hold for shift. The 2u shift looks nice and I doubt you'd notice the difference in touch typing.
I'd personally not use the arrow cluster there, b/c I'm too used to the minivan arrows in the JKL; position. But you can use those bottom keys for all kinds of handy things like layer toggles.
Good idea :thumb:
Post by: 19MODL on Tue, 09 April 2019, 14:03:50
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 09 April 2019, 22:24:19
Super cool! I'm hooked to my arrow keys but love 40%s. I know the images are simply renders but some of those colors look extremely promising. Plus, HHKB is almost unheard of in the 40% world. Sign me up!
Thanks! Actually some 40% HHKB like do exist already, I just made a little small revise.
Post by: nettik on Thu, 11 April 2019, 00:31:46
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:44:35
I'm loving the pink color! HHKB with dedicated arrow cluster is fantastic, I am definitely in for when the GB starts.
Thanks, spots will be ready next month.
Post by: PaultheSloth on Thu, 11 April 2019, 09:04:50
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 11 April 2019, 21:12:54
Will it be limited spots?
I made 100 spots, I think it's enough for 40% users. If not, I will make some more.
Post by: Baron on Thu, 11 April 2019, 21:53:52
Post by: William_S_Jones on Thu, 11 April 2019, 21:58:10
Great, gives me some time b/c the CandyBar had me sweating bullets b/c a want a dimple too. Thanks lazydesigner!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:22:45
do you have pictures of all the final colors?
The cases are ready this month, I will post pictures of all five colors. The PCBs will be ready next month.
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:35:10
I like the 40% layout but may I suggesting the addition of a “? /“ key in the standard layout?
It’s such a commonly used key that I think it warrants being in the standard layout beside the “ > .” Key:-)
Other than that, I’m happy with it!
You could do that if you like, just put the key on the first layer instead of other keys. But eventually you will give up some keys and put them to another layers. If you don't want to give up, you have to look for 45%, or 50%, or 60%, or 65% or even bigger.
Post by: macclack on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:58:17
Post by: nettik on Thu, 25 April 2019, 22:21:21
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 27 April 2019, 01:52:55
Forgive my very newb question, but will the hotswap PCB support PCB switches - the ones with 5 prongs/pins? It looks like it can, but I want to make sure. Also, is the board USB-C, and where is the cutout located?
Yes, the PCB supports 5 pins switches. The USB cutout is located between the first and the second switches.
Post by: Baron on Thu, 02 May 2019, 00:47:10
Post by: Archedemus on Fri, 03 May 2019, 01:25:54
Post by: yui_ on Fri, 03 May 2019, 10:26:51
If it isn't QMK, will the software have full linux support?
Post by: Baron on Fri, 03 May 2019, 13:35:24
If it isn't QMK, will the software have full linux support?
concerned about this as well
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 04 May 2019, 22:09:31
will this have QMK?
Yes, it will.
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 04 May 2019, 22:12:07
What firmware is this pcb going to be running on?
If it isn't QMK, will the software have full linux support?
So far, all my design THE50, THE60, Dimple, THE30 are all based on QMK and will have QMK configuration supported.
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 04 May 2019, 22:26:55
We need some juicy updates plzzz... Also, how much will it weigh?
Without brass plate, Dimple weighs about 700g after fully assembled.
The brass plate weighs about 110g.
I will open plate's CAD file for users to customize plates. if you want to control the weight, you can find someone to laser cut a carbon fiber plate.
The cases are ready. The PCBs are in manufacturing. I hope they will be ready this month.
Post by: Archedemus on Sun, 05 May 2019, 03:45:02
noiiiiceeeee, reaally juiccyyyyy
Post by: yui_ on Sun, 05 May 2019, 11:10:33
Or will we not know that until the GB phase?
Also, will there be an option for a non-hotswap pcb for this? I’ll likely leave it in my bag at school and I don’t want to risk switches coming out and getting damaged in my bag.
Post by: Baron on Sun, 05 May 2019, 13:12:01
Also, will there be an option for a non-hotswap pcb for this? I’ll likely leave it in my bag at school and I don’t want to risk switches coming out and getting damaged in my bag.
as long as the plate is designed well that should never happen
on the really cheap teamwolf tkl hotswap that i bought they would fall out sometimes when taking the keycaps off, but on my tokyo60 its like pulling nails to get them out
Post by: trabbit on Sun, 05 May 2019, 20:15:43
Do you have any idea who the EU proxy will be for this yet?
Or will we not know that until the GB phase?
Also, will there be an option for a non-hotswap pcb for this? I’ll likely leave it in my bag at school and I don’t want to risk switches coming out and getting damaged in my bag.
Sorry, I don't have an EU proxy. All the spots are sold by myself.
I think you need proper case to put any hot-swap keeb in the bag, or use DSA on that keeb.
Post by: .Udon on Mon, 06 May 2019, 03:33:59
(https://i.imgur.com/8GYU9kU.gif)
Post by: arca3n on Wed, 08 May 2019, 22:14:58
Post by: Archedemus on Thu, 16 May 2019, 07:58:17
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 16 May 2019, 21:16:50
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Post by: Minterly on Fri, 17 May 2019, 13:50:48
Post by: trabbit on Sat, 18 May 2019, 02:49:54
Any updates?! I'm starving了。
It will be available later this month.
Post by: monkt on Sat, 18 May 2019, 09:24:53
Have the layout options been finalized? Any decision on the “enter” key, for example, since there is still a 2.25u render in the OP?Any updates?! I'm starving了。
It will be available later this month.
Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Sat, 18 May 2019, 09:29:00
Would say since the photos taken of real boards are the real boards and plates, it's set with the 1.25u enter as the plate is fixedHave the layout options been finalized? Any decision on the “enter” key, for example, since there is still a 2.25u render in the OP?Any updates?! I'm starving了。
It will be available later this month.
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Post by: trabbit on Tue, 28 May 2019, 20:17:45
Post by: joe405 on Tue, 28 May 2019, 21:26:57
Post by: trabbit on Tue, 28 May 2019, 21:53:57
Super excited for this. That pink looks fantastic. Are you still looking to start the GB by the end of the month?
I sell spots.
Dimple's spots are ready for shipping on June 1st. No GB, directly sell from me. FCFS.
Post by: nettik on Tue, 28 May 2019, 23:42:01
Post by: joe405 on Wed, 29 May 2019, 00:10:27
So how does that work? Is there a form we have to fill out, or do we send you an email on June 1?
I assume we will be able to buy directly from his website from 1 Jun.
Post by: trabbit on Wed, 29 May 2019, 00:46:58
So how does that work? Is there a form we have to fill out, or do we send you an email on June 1?
I will have a link on my website later.
First batch of Dimple will be sold on my server https://discord.gg/DwXudg.
Post by: MdotMaxson on Wed, 29 May 2019, 07:46:28
Post by: macclack on Wed, 29 May 2019, 08:20:24
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 30 May 2019, 17:02:50
Wait has it gone on sale yet? I looked on the discord server but didn’t see a link to a sale page.
Message Jacky directly through Discord. He doesn't have sale pages as far as I've seen -- rather he tends to do personal-communication reserved-spot kind of sales. He had a first period with past customer priority, but I think that might be over now -- you'll know what's up by contacting him!
Post by: kakiharaOne on Thu, 30 May 2019, 17:32:47
Wait has it gone on sale yet? I looked on the discord server but didn’t see a link to a sale page.
He mentions June 1st a few comments up. So you will probably see the page on Saturday.
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Thu, 30 May 2019, 21:29:19
Been following your designs since THE50 and THE60. Really like those but wasn't able to join those.
What I like about your designs is that you are trying to do different things with smaller boards to make them usable (primarily to you, and probably to us too)
Looking forward to joining for a Dimple :thumb:
Post by: trabbit on Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:41:25
Hi Jacky,
Been following your designs since THE50 and THE60. Really like those but wasn't able to join those.
What I like about your designs is that you are trying to do different things with smaller boards to make them usable (primarily to you, and probably to us too)
Looking forward to joining for a Dimple :thumb:
Thanks man! Updated the link to discord server: https://discord.gg/AV4qGSk
Post by: Bhk1004 on Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:46:21
Post by: TuCZnak on Wed, 05 June 2019, 09:54:15
Post by: kakiharaOne on Wed, 05 June 2019, 10:39:47
Post by: walie on Thu, 06 June 2019, 06:04:50
Originally I was in huge support of this, but trabbit/Jacky/LazyDesigners needs to get their **** together. Throwing tantrums and banning people from Discord isn't how anybody should behave, much less a vendor. I was nothing but respectful in my message and see no reason for you to react by banning me without even replying. And the wokechill thing was unprovoked, you may have had your reasons but you handled it wrong, period. Cool down, get your **** together man and stop acting like a child.
Was it about adding ISO
Post by: Merked on Sun, 22 December 2019, 16:57:32
Post by: victorpre on Sun, 22 December 2019, 17:05:53
Any GB updates on this board?The designer decided to go with in stock approach.
I already have mine.
Details on his discord:
https://discord.gg/4rdzv3
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