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Title: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 02 March 2019, 20:57:31
無常
Welcome to IC of
Uncertainty60



This project was started and designed by Amaddo.
Vender is KBDfans, They do sell, production, QC and shipped.

(https://i.imgur.com/Nc2vkcs.jpg)



Info

・A minimal, uniform fillet is applied throughout to maintain a sharp aesthetic appearance.

・Although it is a tray mount, it supports HHKB and WKL.

・The use of a blocker will hinder the appearance,
so select a two-layer structure with a top case and a bottom case.

・If you get an extra top case and a soldered board,
you can easily change the layout as well as the switches.

・I made some adjustments to make the sides look simple and beautiful.

・The weights are engraved with
"無 常"
 which is the biggest feature of the board and the name.

・Brass is only sandblasted, reminiscent of a vintage look.

・Brass weights are attached to the back,
and screws are attached from the side so that they do not disturb the brass.

(https://i.imgur.com/NMg8SOy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/eueDNMa.png)



Spec

・Tray Mount
・6 degree tilt
・6061 Alu (Beads Brast and anodization)
・Polycarbonate
・Brass (Sand Brast only)
・Mount points near center and spacebar are removable
(fixed now)

・Price: TBD
・Open GB: TBD (Adjust so that it does not overlap with "Vulcan's MAJA")



Color

KBDfans's TOFU color and PC
https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/products/tofu-rgb-60-custom-keyboard-kit

(https://i.imgur.com/2nVmcwj.jpg)

Approved From KBDfans


(https://i.imgur.com/w3KRAiu.png)

Original render

(https://i.imgur.com/dRtYEUI.png) (https://i.imgur.com/jq2QQTs.png)

More

(https://i.imgur.com/Dmc77SH.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/GWHGsU0.png) (https://i.imgur.com/KBDCS5w.png)





Google Form

https://forms.gle/XLmj9FvKQXyBEPbs6



Timeline

Starting project: 02 March 2019
Order First Proto: 05 March
Arrived First Proto: 27 June
Redesign and Order Second Proto: 28 November



My SNS

Please Follow Me

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Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 02 March 2019, 21:10:20
I'm uncertain of how I feel about this

Edit: weight design is interesting, though
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:18:39
Needs more pictures.


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Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:19:15
I like the name uncertainty
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 02 March 2019, 22:39:15
Look nice.
Wait for more info.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 03 March 2019, 00:59:57
Q:would you consider WKL blocker for the case?

A:I am sorry, the block which we correspond to WKL and HHKB is not supposed with this keyboard.
The new keyboard will be either HHKB or WKL. Production may be a while, but please expect.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: Gondolindrim on Sun, 03 March 2019, 04:16:04
Particularly I can understand a PCB not being in the kit, but IMHO it would be easier if a plate were included

Also I think it needs more renders
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 03 March 2019, 11:53:30
Looking forward to see more. I know you estimate high, but 400usd for a traymount barebone seems above the line.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:22:03
Everyone, thank you for your interest in this keyboard. And you will be seeking more rendered images. I would like to offer more images to you. Please give me some more time.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:05:23
Particularly I can understand a PCB not being in the kit, but IMHO it would be easier if a plate were included

Also I think it needs more renders

Thank you for understanding that PCB is not included. And perhaps I will not have a plate attached. I think importantly that it is easy to exchange PCB and plate, which is characteristic of tray mount type keyboard. There are several kinds of plate material, and my thought that each one wishes to use the plate I like is put in it.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:30:04
Hi, Geekhack user!
I have created and published a new rendered image. I'm glad if you can use it as a reference.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 03:21:46
Q:Hi, can i ask that what are those side holes for?

A:Yes. It is a screw hole used to fix the case and weight. I did not want to put extra things in the weight as much as possible. Fixing method like Fjell was difficult, it was the best choice to fix from the side.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: MrFurrior on Mon, 04 March 2019, 04:36:33
Looking forward to see more. I know you estimate high, but 400usd for a traymount barebone seems above the line.

Agreed, $400 is way too much for what it is. Considering other GB's provide PCB's and a plate...
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 04:42:11
Looking forward to see more. I know you estimate high, but 400usd for a traymount barebone seems above the line.

Agreed, $400 is way too much for what it is. Considering other GB's provide PCB's and a plate...

That’s right. Considering that there are no other accessories for 400 dollars, it is a high price. However, because it is a higher estimate, the price at the time of offering will be lower than this price. Although it may be affected by shipping costs.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Mon, 04 March 2019, 05:07:17
Im into this. The design is fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Mon, 04 March 2019, 07:05:44
Looks like a pretty nice board, I really love the weight but, even if the price won't be $400, without plate and PCB it looks very expensive but maybe that's just me.
GL with your GB though.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 08:18:57
Looks like a pretty nice board, I really love the weight but, even if the price won't be $400, without plate and PCB it looks very expensive but maybe that's just me.
GL with your GB though.

The manufacturing cost itself is $ 300 for 50 units and $ 290 for 75 units. In addition to this, the shipping fee and the expenses I spent on prototype manufacturing and the profit ($ 20 to $ 30) to cover the cost of designing the next keyboard are added. Shipping fee etc are not disclosed, but if you expect price, please refer to this place.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: maximize on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:04:22
Looks like a pretty nice board, I really love the weight but, even if the price won't be $400, without plate and PCB it looks very expensive but maybe that's just me.
GL with your GB though.

The manufacturing cost itself is $ 300 for 50 units and $ 290 for 75 units. In addition to this, the shipping fee and the expenses I spent on prototype manufacturing and the profit ($ 20 to $ 30) to cover the cost of designing the next keyboard are added. Shipping fee etc are not disclosed, but if you expect price, please refer to this place.

This manufacturing cost sounds very high for just a case + brass weight. Take a look at Mekanisk's latest IC post (LeandreN). They're estimating $250 for the Fjell R2 case, and I'm sure that's taking some margin on the sales (meaning the manufacturing cost is probably more like $200). Not to mention the quality expected of Mekanisk products. How many different vendors did you approach with this?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: Pluto19 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:10:14
May I ask where the TAINT part of the name came from?

Edit: Ooof. My apologies. My immaturity and reading comprehension got to me on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:20:09
Top view is quite similar to DC60 and Fjell :)
Weight looks interesting!
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:21:26
Looks like a pretty nice board, I really love the weight but, even if the price won't be $400, without plate and PCB it looks very expensive but maybe that's just me.
GL with your GB though.

The manufacturing cost itself is $ 300 for 50 units and $ 290 for 75 units. In addition to this, the shipping fee and the expenses I spent on prototype manufacturing and the profit ($ 20 to $ 30) to cover the cost of designing the next keyboard are added. Shipping fee etc are not disclosed, but if you expect price, please refer to this place.

This manufacturing cost sounds very high for just a case + brass weight. Take a look at Mekanisk's latest IC post (LeandreN). They're estimating $250 for the Fjell R2 case, and I'm sure that's taking some margin on the sales (meaning the manufacturing cost is probably more like $200). Not to mention the quality expected of Mekanisk products. How many different vendors did you approach with this?

I will investigate whether the problem of manufacturing cost can be solved by reducing the thickness of the brass weight. Also we will raise the bottom of the case 1 mm. However, I think that this will not lead to much cost reduction.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:27:16
May I ask where the TAINT part of the name came from?

The origin of the name of Uncertainty 60 is in the Heike story of Japan. It was written about Uncertainty (impermanence) in one sentence, and it was named from there. Probably the next name will be taken from the Heike Monogatari.
It is difficult to express Japanese unique culture in English.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/4 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:29:28
Top view is quite similar to DC60 and Fjell :)
Weight looks interesting!

That's right. Inspired from various keyboards, there is a current design.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (3/5 new renders)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 23:59:58
Hi everyone.
I changed the thickness of the brass weight to cost down. There was no major change in the design itself, but it was changed to a direct screw stop rather than a screw stop from the side.
I think that I could have somewhat reduced the cost by doing this. I will put out quotations from now.


Next, concerning the plate, as there are many requests, it is under review now.

Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: Minterly on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:52:38
I almost like the brass weight without the "Uncertainty" engraving.
Personal opinion, that script type font kind of is not... pretty to say the least 😅.
And I'm also super into the sleek minimalist look the rest of the board offers.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Wed, 06 March 2019, 04:18:02
I almost like the brass weight without the "Uncertainty" engraving.
Personal opinion, that script type font kind of is not... pretty to say the least 😅.
And I'm also super into the sleek minimalist look the rest of the board offers.

If you and the other wish so much, the stamp of "Uncertainty60" will disappear and only the "無" stamp will remain. "無" is a key feature of this keyboard, and if it is lost, it loses important features of this keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: maximize on Wed, 06 March 2019, 11:25:34
I almost like the brass weight without the "Uncertainty" engraving.
Personal opinion, that script type font kind of is not... pretty to say the least 😅.
And I'm also super into the sleek minimalist look the rest of the board offers.

If you and the other wish so much, the stamp of "Uncertainty60" will disappear and only the "無" stamp will remain. "無" is a key feature of this keyboard, and if it is lost, it loses important features of this keyboard.

Google translate tells me that 無 just means "no" or "nothing". What's the backstory or meaning to you?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: takai on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:44:26
Google translate tells me that 無 just means "no" or "nothing". What's the backstory or meaning to you?

It comes from Buddhism word "無常 (impermanence)" and it also means "nothing is permanent".
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:52:57
The top is very similar to DC60/Fjell (not a bad thing by any means). The weight design reminds me of the Fusion60 weight.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 07 March 2019, 04:00:25
The top is very similar to DC60/Fjell (not a bad thing by any means). The weight design reminds me of the Fusion60 weight.

I designed this keyboard inspired by many keyboards. Of course it includes Fjell and DC60. I would be happy if you like this design.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 07 March 2019, 07:08:38
I gained cooperation from KBDfans, a famous and familiar company. I do not do everything, but most processes are done by them, so I can relax and join the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: Artemie on Thu, 07 March 2019, 08:47:35
Since you’ve spent expenses on a prototype I’d like to see some actual board photos instead of renders.


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Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 07 March 2019, 09:36:59
I gained cooperation from KBDfans, a famous and familiar company. I do not do everything, but most processes are done by them, so I can relax and join the GB.

Hopefully they can get price closer to $100...
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: tonny950111 on Sat, 09 March 2019, 16:10:04
Oh, my. It's 2019 and still tray mount 60%?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 09 March 2019, 16:35:11
After seeing fusion for low 200s, and GBs like Leaf/M60 in the mid 300s, and E6.5 in high 300s, this does seem a little too expensive. Especially considering no plate/PCB.

I do like the weight though.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:14:37
Q: Will you have this on reddit.

A: No. I am publishing to geekhack, Japanese twitter and Discord server, KBDfans Discord server and my instagram. Since I do not know how to use Reddit, I felt it was not good to post in this state. If possible, I hope that more people can share this IC with your friends.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:22:24
I sent a message to KBDfans earlier.
The contents are about aluminum plate and prototype according to the price estimate and case color. I am waiting for a reply now, but as soon as there is a reply, I will renew the page.

Finally, I am glad that many people like my keyboard design. I will do my best to lower the price as much as possible so that it can be offered.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: Minterly on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:24:18
Q: Will you have this on reddit.

A: No. I am publishing to geekhack, Japanese twitter and Discord server, KBDfans Discord server and my instagram. Since I do not know how to use Reddit, I felt it was not good to post in this state. If possible, I hope that more people can share this IC with your friends.

You can post this on: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/ since it an IC to gain some interest.
Here is an example of a keyboard one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axugxa/ic_tr_wireless_split_keyboard_with_mouse_stick/

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 09 March 2019, 19:30:26
Q: Will you have this on reddit.

A: No. I am publishing to geekhack, Japanese twitter and Discord server, KBDfans Discord server and my instagram. Since I do not know how to use Reddit, I felt it was not good to post in this state. If possible, I hope that more people can share this IC with your friends.

You can post this on: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/ since it an IC to gain some interest.
Here is an example of a keyboard one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axugxa/ic_tr_wireless_split_keyboard_with_mouse_stick/

Hope this helps!

I appreciate your advice :thumb: Thanks!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 10 March 2019, 00:45:09
Q: will the 1up hot swappable pcb fit in this case?

A: Yes, I have a gap of 3mm so that the socket and case will not interfere. Probably installation is possible, but I would like to try it before selling.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 10 March 2019, 00:49:00
I will delete the estimate price from the thread and change it during the estimate so that there is no further misunderstanding. You will not pay 400 dollars.
I apologize for writing that I make misunderstandings.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: amaddo on Wed, 13 March 2019, 22:12:06
Hello everyone.
I asked KBDfans to manufacture a prototype.
However, I have not specified a color yet. I will ask for white or black in the plan, but is there any color that I want to see? Please say if there is any color you care about.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans
Post by: pcire on Thu, 14 March 2019, 00:38:25
White?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (prototype color voting)
Post by: anon23 on Thu, 14 March 2019, 01:46:48
Maybe pick the most voted colour in the google form?

Personally I'd be curious to see what purple or pink will look like.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (prototype color voting)
Post by: amaddo on Fri, 15 March 2019, 22:35:01
Then, we will make an announcement of popular colors here.

1. black, matte white
2. gray
3. silver, purple
4. blue
5. burgundy
6. cyan, pink
7. brown
8. green

The other colors were as below.
- Dark blue
- Yellow
- White
- Polycarbonate (Consideration)
- Navy blue (dark/grayish)
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 04 April 2019, 07:08:48
The prototype is currently in production.
It will probably be delivered by April.

In addition, some price information etc. were corrected. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: nasp on Thu, 04 April 2019, 07:35:09
Offering blockers for HHKB and TKL forms?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 04 April 2019, 07:40:10
Offering blockers for HHKB and TKL forms?
TKL? Is it about WKL?
Unfortunately, we can not support WKL or HHKB on schedule.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: nasp on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:37:19
Offering blockers for HHKB and TKL forms?
TKL? Is it about WKL?
Unfortunately, we can not support WKL or HHKB on schedule.

Yes. That's what I meant.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Tue, 11 June 2019, 16:54:02
Project rip or what? :-\
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: amaddo on Tue, 11 June 2019, 17:23:48
The uncertainty60 prototype is being reproduction by the factory.
Sorry for not updating for a while. :(
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 12 June 2019, 19:11:05
how long do you think until this is available? and please have WKL blockers
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (production prototype)
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 13 June 2019, 08:23:13
It is not possible to announce a clear date yet. I'm sorry.

And with regard to the WKL and HHKB blocks that we received a lot from you, we are considering adding them.
We also plan to manufacture a PC version of the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (Add new picture)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 01 July 2019, 05:53:10
Hi, everyone.
I was received prototype(But Failure).
The image has been updated.
I will update it as soon as we receive the latest proto.

Until then, enjoy the typing sound of this keyboard!
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (Add actual photo & Typing sound link)
Post by: aleck on Wed, 14 August 2019, 15:39:14
...any news?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (Add actual photo & Typing sound link)
Post by: amaddo on Fri, 16 August 2019, 06:50:23
I I contact KBDfans through Discord on a regular basis (about a week).
And I'm asking for new news and photos of prototypes in production, but KBDfans says they didn't send them from the factory.
I will contact you again tomorrow.

Sorry for being late.
...any news?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (Add actual photo & Typing sound link)
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:05:36
I am for sure interested, but it depends on the color offered. KBDFans usually has Navy Blue as a choice. I'd go with that, or Orange. HHKB ideal.

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Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 with KBDfans (Add actual photo & Typing sound link)
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 23 August 2019, 10:23:15
Excited for the PC version and wishing the HHKB and WKL options are added. Now, we just have to wait.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 31 August 2019, 21:13:51
Hi, I will respond to your request.
This is...Add WKL and HHKB design.

I kept refusing corner blocker. Because I don't like the appearance very much.
But Although it is a tray mount, I modified it to separate it into a top case and a bottom case.
By purchasing an additional top case, you can freely choose the layout by replacing your favorite plate and PCB on the market.
(This is the merit of tray mount)

The problem is now.
I need to ask for additional prototypes.
However, the current factory has not yet delivered a perfect prototype for me. (Paid in March)

If this design is good for you, order a prototype, and if the addition of WKL or HHKB is not very important, I will open GB soon.

Please opinion of Geek

(https://i.imgur.com/4g2zoZF.png)

Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: EMC Labs on Sun, 01 September 2019, 04:30:53
Hi, I will respond to your request.
This is...Add WKL and HHKB design.

I kept refusing corner blocker. Because I don't like the appearance very much.
But Although it is a tray mount, I modified it to separate it into a top case and a bottom case.
By purchasing an additional top case, you can freely choose the layout by replacing your favorite plate and PCB on the market.
(This is the merit of tray mount)

The problem is now.
I need to ask for additional prototypes.
However, the current factory has not yet delivered a perfect prototype for me. (Paid in March)

If this design is good for you, order a prototype, and if the addition of WKL or HHKB is not very important, I will open GB soon.

Please opinion of Geek

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4g2zoZF.png)


Looks good. What factory will you order the prototype from?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: aleck on Sun, 01 September 2019, 10:19:35
Hi, I will respond to your request.
This is...Add WKL and HHKB design.

I kept refusing corner blocker. Because I don't like the appearance very much.
But Although it is a tray mount, I modified it to separate it into a top case and a bottom case.
By purchasing an additional top case, you can freely choose the layout by replacing your favorite plate and PCB on the market.
(This is the merit of tray mount)

The problem is now.
I need to ask for additional prototypes.
However, the current factory has not yet delivered a perfect prototype for me. (Paid in March)

If this design is good for you, order a prototype, and if the addition of WKL or HHKB is not very important, I will open GB soon.

Please opinion of Geek

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4g2zoZF.png)

I think the current design looks pretty good. I also think you should add WKL and HHKB options since a lot of people like those layouts, and thus, many more people will be interested in buying this case if you add them.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 02 September 2019, 08:48:06
Hi, I will respond to your request.
This is...Add WKL and HHKB design.

I kept refusing corner blocker. Because I don't like the appearance very much.
But Although it is a tray mount, I modified it to separate it into a top case and a bottom case.
By purchasing an additional top case, you can freely choose the layout by replacing your favorite plate and PCB on the market.
(This is the merit of tray mount)

The problem is now.
I need to ask for additional prototypes.
However, the current factory has not yet delivered a perfect prototype for me. (Paid in March)

If this design is good for you, order a prototype, and if the addition of WKL or HHKB is not very important, I will open GB soon.

Please opinion of Geek

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4g2zoZF.png)


Looks good. What factory will you order the prototype from?

KBDfans have some factory.

I kept waiting and was suggested to change the factory. I decided that there was a possibility of a great delay in mass production, so I will asked another factory for the next prototype and mass production. The distributor and shipping etc. are the same with KBDfans.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sun, 08 September 2019, 03:59:46
I’m in for HHkB
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: vitaport on Thu, 19 September 2019, 08:42:52
I'd be in for a black version.  Also REALLY like the idea of just having the "無" engraved in the weight rather than the full name of the board.  I have some PCBs that would work with this case so I'll be watching for more updates
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: amaddo on Fri, 20 September 2019, 08:40:46
Do you want "Uncertainty60" Sculpture?
Minimalism people not want it.
("無" is will run reliably)

I want to geek hack user's opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: vitaport on Fri, 20 September 2019, 09:56:30
Do you want "Uncertainty60" Sculpture?
Minimalism people not want it.
("無" is will run reliably)

I want to geek hack user's opinion.

I like minimalist designs more
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: DaneOne on Wed, 02 October 2019, 20:31:52
How's it going ? any close to an ETA ?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Add HHKB and WKL)
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 13 October 2019, 02:53:16
How's it going ? any close to an ETA ?

Maybe Not Yet.
In order to check compatibility, you will need to make another prototype again.
As soon as it finishes, it starts GB.

Sorry for spending too much time.
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Thu, 19 December 2019, 07:20:20
Hi! I received Prototype photo from KBDfans!!
Before anodizing, I will report on the progress.
(https://i.imgur.com/NMg8SOy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MMEqksz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jcXJf9F.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/x6O2p9o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z9seVtd.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Publish prototype photo)
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 20 December 2019, 18:24:48
This has evolved quite a bit since the IC was first published. It's looking pretty good now aesthetically.

Are you planning on the 6 standard tray mount points? Or will you do 4 or 5 post, or have removable posts like Grid 600 and newer Mekanisk boards?
Title: Re: [IC] Uncertainty60 (Publish prototype photo)
Post by: amaddo on Fri, 20 December 2019, 21:59:33
REDESIGN Uncertainty60 PAGE



I value the opinions of GeekHack users.
It's an important element, even if you're alone.
Spec was updated and the design was modified. Thanks for your post.
This has evolved quite a bit since the IC was first published. It's looking pretty good now aesthetically.

Are you planning on the 6 standard tray mount points? Or will you do 4 or 5 post, or have removable posts like Grid 600 and newer Mekanisk boards?

Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: fluidin on Fri, 20 December 2019, 22:11:05
looking really good with the removable posts! just want to see more of the polycarbonate version, now
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sat, 21 December 2019, 08:07:06
Yes, more render soon
looking really good with the removable posts! just want to see more of the polycarbonate version, now
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: DJ Clicks on Sun, 22 December 2019, 03:22:42
Is there an estimated price? And I'm so confused rn, which keyboard was the one that cost $175 for prototype and 15 of it was for shipping? Fellow users pls clear my confusion.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: Beerbezerker on Sun, 22 December 2019, 08:25:59
Depending on price (once announced) I'd be in for both a polycarb + alu.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 22 December 2019, 08:40:07
Add Render.
I will try to render better.
(Aluminum renders only "rose gold" to avoid color confusion.)



Is there an estimated price? And I'm so confused rn, which keyboard was the one that cost $175 for prototype and 15 of it was for shipping? Fellow users pls clear my confusion.

Depending on price (once announced) I'd be in for both a polycarb + alu.
We will do our best for the price.
I contact KBDfans after tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: DJ Clicks on Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:46:25
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:22:51
Any updates?
Proto had some design defects.
Redesign and reproduction.
And, this production include mount points fixed.
But I cannot receive message from KBDfans long time.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: pegasus163 on Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:45:19
The design is undoubtedly impressive. The only matter is the vendor. I experienced once with KBDfans when I was ordering the hot swap PCB from them. It took me 3 weeks for a wrong tracking product, then more than 2 months for a regular hot swap PCB to be shipped to my house. Then it has turned out the package I received wasn't the pcb I wanted. In stead, it was a small square box with a piece of something that I don't even what it is. More than 3 months for unexpected stuff then I swear to God I will never come back to them ever again.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Wed, 08 January 2020, 08:01:13
The design is undoubtedly impressive. The only matter is the vendor. I experienced once with KBDfans when I was ordering the hot swap PCB from them. It took me 3 weeks for a wrong tracking product, then more than 2 months for a regular hot swap PCB to be shipped to my house. Then it has turned out the package I received wasn't the pcb I wanted. In stead, it was a small square box with a piece of something that I don't even what it is. More than 3 months for unexpected stuff then I swear to God I will never come back to them ever again.
Yes, your bitter experience.

However, the potential for trouble is present in every transaction and will never be 0%.
I chose KBDfans as a vendor because even beginners can easily buy a keyboard and keep the price down.

Just as I chose KBDfans, you can choose not to buy with KBDfans, and I will not deny it at all.
The purchase of the product should be made at your will.

Thanks for rating Uncertainty60.
I hope you can choose freely.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Sun, 12 January 2020, 12:05:30
Hi, simple update report

The prototype posted the other day had some flaws.
Therefore, at least another prototype is required. Currently redesigned from scratch, 80% of the work has been completed.

The basic appearance does not change, but the brass weight has changed.
The details will be posted at a later date.

Also, due to the redesign, the weight may be lower than originally expected.

Currently, KBDfans are busy and cannot be contacted immediately.
Since the Chinese New Year is coming soon, it is expected that it will take some time.

I'm sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 26 February 2020, 02:27:23
*watching*
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: joonia on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:22:20
need this. 100% in
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 02 March 2020, 03:59:51
Change weight design
(https://i.imgur.com/eueDNMa.png)
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: amaddo on Mon, 02 March 2020, 04:03:13
Sorry miss.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Mon, 02 March 2020, 09:44:12
Any update on pricing with this?
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: underheavn on Tue, 31 March 2020, 05:08:31
Very interested in a polycarbonate version. Hope the production issues get sorted out soon.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: pchoi on Tue, 31 March 2020, 10:35:59
[attachimg=1]

I would 100% be in on this if you made the chamfers on the top a little smaller (like they are in this picture) Looks too much like the Tokyo60 right now
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: pchoi on Tue, 31 March 2020, 10:38:26
^ Not saying the corners should be rounded like this, just to clarify. Only talking about the top chamfer size
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: KFOXE on Sun, 26 April 2020, 16:18:03
Any chance on a purple version being produced? Just got into the keyboard building community and was scrolling through ICs and this design caught my eye.

Also, any timeline on when we can expect the group buy to begin? Interested in purchasing one purple and one black.
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: aleck on Sun, 05 July 2020, 19:16:15
...is this gonna go somewhere?
Title: Re: [IC] -無常- Uncertainty60
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:35:02
...is this gonna go somewhere?

Uncertainaf