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Title: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Tue, 18 June 2019, 16:53:32
I'm very interested in coming RAMA WORKS U80-A.

What do you guys think about it?
Whos has already ordere it and who will order one?
What color do you prefer?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: lendflat on Tue, 18 June 2019, 17:00:41
No silver. Cant customize weight... will wait for round 2 when he comes to his senses.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Wed, 19 June 2019, 04:29:27
No silver. Cant customize weight... will wait for round 2 when he comes to his senses.
So SEQ1 means this is round 1 and there will be more?
I didn't follow other Rama products - do you know or can you assume what kind of changes will come in second round?
Would there be possibility for ISO for example?

Also, where does this coming from? I wonder if EU will have to pay tax, customs etc
For some reason when i ordered some things from China, Japan etc - never paid taxes..
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: bUttery on Wed, 19 June 2019, 20:18:57
I ordered a MOON (silver) and I had the same idea that it is kinda lame how you can not choose what color plate or weight. But it is my first build ever so i am excited no less.

I have been waiting awhile to find a TKL keyboard kit.
I play a lot of games and I use my tilde too much to commit to a 60% and I am just excited to have a nice chunky and heavy TKL.

I am a big fan of silenced tactile thocky sounding boards so the main selling point is that insulator under the plate. I plan to use MOD-M switches or Zilents. 

Since it is honestly my first GB (other than massdrop) I am curious how long of a wait it will be.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Thu, 20 June 2019, 02:48:41
I ordered a MOON (silver) and I had the same idea that it is kinda lame how you can not choose what color plate or weight. But it is my first build ever so i am excited no less.

I have been waiting awhile to find a TKL keyboard kit.
I play a lot of games and I use my tilde too much to commit to a 60% and I am just excited to have a nice chunky and heavy TKL.

I am a big fan of silenced tactile thocky sounding boards so the main selling point is that insulator under the plate. I plan to use MOD-M switches or Zilents. 

Since it is honestly my first GB (other than massdrop) I am curious how long of a wait it will be.

Yep, I'm looking at Moon as well, looks like a safe choice to look good with all the caps sets I have.
I would prefer Moon and then rose gold or golden bar, but won't pay extra $80 for it. Unless I would find someone who would like to swap.
I would put Tealios on it, as I prefer linear, but would get hotswap, so could do any in the future.
I would miss ISO, as I'm in UK, but I guess I could get used to it.
Also, old school bottom row is a bit weird for me as well, 7u space bar and 1.5u mods may not be all available in my sets, so would have to fish for them second hand...

I hope it won't take long, people say about 2-3 months of manufacturing, so aiming for October max, I hope so...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 21 June 2019, 10:33:15
I always think I'm done with keyboards, and then a new cool one pops up. I hadn't even heard of this one until this thread.

The U80-A doesn't look super appealing to me aesthetically, but it looks extremely high quality. I'm seriously thinking about getting this now; although none of the colors particularly appeal to me (or perhaps, I should say none of the color combinations. I think black with gold weight would look nice). I know I do not want the moon color since that's very similar to my M65-A, whose color I've never been satisfied with.

Maybe I should think about it in terms of keysets I have. White is boring, but it would go with GMK DMG or MT3 Dev/tty if I decide to keep it. Lake blue looks nice, but the closest thing I have to a set for it is SA Cyan on Dolch. Moon gray and Kuro black would go with ePBT slate. I have nothing that would go with the Port burgundy color.

Have you decide which one you like?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kelseer on Fri, 21 June 2019, 11:57:39
I'm thinking of picking up the Milk or Port, because I think the other colours aren't anything we haven't seen before. Hotswap, because of the flexibility down the road on switches.

Where did people say the lead time for this will be 2-3 months?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: csmertx on Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:16:07
Wow, milk + heavy industry SEQ2 :drools:

I'mma scour youtube for typing demo videos after round 1.  The dampening method looks intriguing.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: appaboy on Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:21:11
I'm very interested in coming RAMA WORKS U80-A.

What do you guys think about it?
Whos has already ordere it and who will order one?
What color do you prefer?

im personally not a fan of the mirror finished metal is on some elements of the board, which seems to be a trend by rama.

the internal dampeners are cool
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:22:16
I'm really interested in the internals of this. But I can't say I like the looks very much. I'll have to see how rich I'm feeling next month.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: ninjinphu on Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:28:36
I ordered a Lake since I already have the Nautilus caps and Linjars. Pretty excited to see how it sounds.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: lewisflude on Sun, 23 June 2019, 13:54:20
No ISO no buy sadly! Shame as the muted system seems really interesting.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: siijunn on Sun, 23 June 2019, 15:15:36
These days seem to all be about the TKL. Haven't been into TKL for a while now, but if I ever come around or feel like putting one together I may pick one up.

Personally, a bigger fan of the M60-A but even that is a little too shiny for my tastes.

Heavy Industry on the other hand? wooooo boy.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Sun, 23 June 2019, 23:21:34
I think many are still waiting to know how effective the mute pad is, especially with non-silent switches.

Colour wise, all of them look stunning but knowing that they are just really super nice renders, I won't commit until seeing live pictures.

I have ordered the Heavy Industry set though!
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 24 June 2019, 03:20:25
I think many are still waiting to know how effective the mute pad is, especially with non-silent switches.

Colour wise, all of them look stunning but knowing that they are just really super nice renders, I won't commit until seeing live pictures.

I have ordered the Heavy Industry set though!

Do you think they will show real pictures or typing test before ordering ends?
We still have 2 weeks, I would like to see that first before I press Buy button...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Mon, 24 June 2019, 04:48:02
I think many are still waiting to know how effective the mute pad is, especially with non-silent switches.

Colour wise, all of them look stunning but knowing that they are just really super nice renders, I won't commit until seeing live pictures.

I have ordered the Heavy Industry set though!

Do you think they will show real pictures or typing test before ordering ends?
We still have 2 weeks, I would like to see that first before I press Buy button...


You an I both are on the same boat.
Ideally they would post photos and tests as it has been over three weeks since orders opened and they have promised to put out more information.
But seeing as how busy they are especially with the Koyu shipping very soon (sometime in July), we can only hope it comes before they get swamped.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 24 June 2019, 05:31:18
No ISO no buy sadly! Shame as the muted system seems really interesting.

You see, I also use ISO as I live in UK.
But I thought I could get that ANSI anyway and try to get used it it.
Looking at a build of U80-A, looks like they could introduce ISO later on - they would need to produce ISO pcb and plate.
That MUTE gasket looks like could take ISO already.

I hope they will do it in the future...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Mon, 24 June 2019, 09:53:53

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: bwighthunter on Mon, 24 June 2019, 12:39:38


has the u80 being built with gat inks and even has a typing test.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 24 June 2019, 16:52:15
Daim!!!!!!
I saw that on reddit 15 minutes ago...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Sup on Mon, 24 June 2019, 16:55:54
Man that sounds super good.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Fri, 28 June 2019, 07:40:57
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 28 June 2019, 08:16:44
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...

I'm on the edge of getting one! How hopeful are you for ISO?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 28 June 2019, 08:33:15
I'm on the edge of getting one! How hopeful are you for ISO?

Do not hold your breath on that ó there will be no ISO during this GB.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Fri, 28 June 2019, 08:56:22
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...

I'm on the edge of getting one! How hopeful are you for ISO?

Well, hard to say. Ideally I wanted an ISO, but went for it anyway.

From the product point of view, it is possible just to produce ISO plate and pcb. If they gonna do it? Don't know. Maybe if they had more requests.
That mute gasket has big hole under enter area and on left for Shift, so looks like its all matter of having ISO pcb and plate.
Maybe that was the reason for keeping those holes there...

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RW-U80-SQR-HERO-A.1646_1080x1080.jpg?v=1559300517)

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: SuperUltra on Fri, 28 June 2019, 16:49:04
TKL is my favorite layout and I love the RAMA aesthetic so I had to get one of these. I ordered the Milk (white) keyboard and a set of Heavy Industry Seq 2 keycaps. Don't forget to order the internal dampener or weight if you want one. I thought at least the dampener would be included but it's not.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RW-U80-WIDE-HERO-A.1691_2048x2048.jpg)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: iwishiwasapriate on Fri, 28 June 2019, 22:30:34
I'm in love with the U80-A though right now, it's a bit beyond my budget.

If I were in the market, I think I'd go for either Port or Lake. I think a version in a forest green with a gold weight, would have looked awesome too.

I'll have to settle for my more budget-friendly Alu body TKL for now   :(
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: jmg123 on Sat, 29 June 2019, 03:49:41


Well, hard to say. Ideally I wanted an ISO, but went for it anyway.

From the product point of view, it is possible just to produce ISO plate and pcb. If they gonna do it? Don't know. Maybe if they had more requests.
That mute gasket has big hole under enter area and on left for Shift, so looks like its all matter of having ISO pcb and plate.
Maybe that was the reason for keeping those holes there...

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RW-U80-SQR-HERO-A.1646_1080x1080.jpg?v=1559300517)


I ordered a milk one, and an extra gasket , as I think it will require a little modification around the left shift and |\ key.  Once it arrives i plan on getting an iso plate cut at laser boost and either handwiring or designing a pcb (depending on how much space there is)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 29 June 2019, 08:59:05


Well, hard to say. Ideally I wanted an ISO, but went for it anyway.

From the product point of view, it is possible just to produce ISO plate and pcb. If they gonna do it? Don't know. Maybe if they had more requests.
That mute gasket has big hole under enter area and on left for Shift, so looks like its all matter of having ISO pcb and plate.
Maybe that was the reason for keeping those holes there...

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RW-U80-SQR-HERO-A.1646_1080x1080.jpg?v=1559300517)


I ordered a milk one, and an extra gasket , as I think it will require a little modification around the left shift and |\ key.  Once it arrives i plan on getting an iso plate cut at laser boost and either handwiring or designing a pcb (depending on how much space there is)

Well, if you gonna do that, you may get iso buyers for it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: jmg123 on Sat, 29 June 2019, 14:36:53
If It works out ok then iíll add the files to github for any other iso lovers. That said if there are enough of us maybe rama would do an ISO plate? Who knows.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 29 June 2019, 18:17:24
If It works out ok then iíll add the files to github for any other iso lovers. That said if there are enough of us maybe rama would do an ISO plate? Who knows.

I hope they will...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 29 June 2019, 18:17:45
I think this video shows good colors Rama is using, go to 10:25.

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: poodude on Sat, 29 June 2019, 22:21:33
I went with a moon and internal dampener. I love the thick substantial bezel, and appreciate the restrained industrial look. I think more clean looking monochromatic key sets will look great with this. I ordered an Oblivion base set that I hope will look good with it.

mspaint mockup:

(https://i.imgur.com/JiCI1zo.png)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kelseer on Sat, 29 June 2019, 23:06:38
Just remember that the bottom row is different, its got a 7u spacebar, with the Windows keys at 1u each.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sun, 30 June 2019, 09:40:05
If this mounting style works well and feels good, presumably there will be future Rama boards with it. As much as I'm curious about it (and as good a deal as the GB price is), I'll have to pass for now. I just don't like how it looks and I don't like the 0.5u spacing around the alphas.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sun, 30 June 2019, 11:09:40
I went with a moon and internal dampener. I love the thick substantial bezel, and appreciate the restrained industrial look. I think more clean looking monochromatic key sets will look great with this. I ordered an Oblivion base set that I hope will look good with it.

mspaint mockup:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JiCI1zo.png)


Yep, Oblivion will look perfect with Moon.
I love the bezel too, like old school Realforce:)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Sun, 07 July 2019, 20:29:04
There is another video with Healios + Hako Royal True typing sounds and showing the LED modes.

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 08 July 2019, 02:49:47
Yep, I saw that yesterday. Looking good.
From those videos it sounds like silenced Topre for me.
I have 55g silenced topre board and it sounds very similar.

So I understand the reason for this gasket - I understand that people didn't like so afar the sound of typing on aluminium cases, like Rama M60 for example, where you could here loud tock when bottoming out? Solid aluminium case with plate screwed to it was making hollow noises etc?
Is this the reason they designed this gasket?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 08 July 2019, 11:55:36
I still can't decide on color, dang it. I'm leaning towards Port but it's hard to tell how purple vs red this hue of maroon is. Lake looks good too. Black would be nice if I could get it with a gold weight, but black on black just looks too boring.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 10 July 2019, 09:04:27
Well, I went with Port since it was my initial interest. I hope it matches well with GMK DMG. If not, I'll throw some dark gray keycaps on it maybe.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: awetblanketnamedpam on Thu, 11 July 2019, 09:24:50
7/11 and pre-orders are still open.. hoping they're not gonna have production delays.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Thu, 11 July 2019, 10:26:26
I hope not, I'm keeping special place under this year's Christmas tree for it...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 11 July 2019, 10:35:09
7/11 and pre-orders are still open.. hoping they're not gonna have production delays.

So far all of RAMA's group buys have briefly remained open after the official deadline. Don't read too much into it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: ninjinphu on Thu, 11 July 2019, 10:38:24
7/11 and pre-orders are still open.. hoping they're not gonna have production delays.

So far all of RAMA's group buys have briefly remained open after the official deadline. Don't read too much into it.

I think they're in Australia, makes sense when you want to make sure global deadline doesn't cause someone to miss the order overnight.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 14 July 2019, 11:54:45
I think they're in Australia [...]

RAMA, Kate and Wilba operate out of Melbourne. The rest of the team are scattered over the globe.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Tue, 16 July 2019, 02:00:42
I haven't seen any discussion on this, but can the U80-A technically be considered a sandwich mount with no screws securing the plate?
There are no screws securing the plate+mute+PCB assembly to either the top or the bottom case and seems to only be mated to the top case by friction with the corresponding indents along the plate.
Any thoughts?

3:20
5:13 - Watch in slow motion!  :))

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: SlipperyPeteED on Fri, 19 July 2019, 01:08:42
I should of grabbed one of these. I wonder what the aftermarket is going to be like for it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: gbgwang on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:51:09
Do you have any plans to update the current production?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DuckNorris on Wed, 11 September 2019, 13:55:29
Looks amazing the keyboard I was trying to get it but was late by some weeks haha. I do hope they make a Second run version of this would be awesome
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: dom on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:41:31
The U80-A is my dream, I was late few weeks as well  :confused:
There will be future runs (probably next year) ;)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: clacktalk on Thu, 12 September 2019, 16:24:31
i'm pretty stoked to not have to devalue my pcb by not having to solder my switches in. my body runs hot and i swear it makes the iron even hotter than it should be. that is a recipe for lifting pads who can relate
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: shansoft on Thu, 12 September 2019, 17:12:59
i'm pretty stoked to not have to devalue my pcb by not having to solder my switches in. my body runs hot and i swear it makes the iron even hotter than it should be. that is a recipe for lifting pads who can relate

I much prefer hotswap than soldering for few reason. I swap switches a lot and having desoldering without desoldering gun is just too much.
Especially when lubes goes out, and you need to re-lube the switches or stab....
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 12 September 2019, 21:10:47
i'm pretty stoked to not have to devalue my pcb by not having to solder my switches in. my body runs hot and i swear it makes the iron even hotter than it should be. that is a recipe for lifting pads who can relate

I much prefer hotswap than soldering for few reason. I swap switches a lot and having desoldering without desoldering gun is just too much.
Especially when lubes goes out, and you need to re-lube the switches or stab....

Exactly, not too bad if you have a switch top opening plate (although that's still very time consuming and also doesn't help if you have BOX switches), but otherwise it's too much of a pain to desolder. I have lifted many a pad desoldering with just and iron and a solder sucker. It also takes forever.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DB24 on Mon, 23 September 2019, 20:11:40
I am really psyched to get this kit. I ordered the "Lake" color with solderable PCB. I plan on putting in Zilent V2's 67gr. Also I ordered the heavy industry keycap set but also I have the GMK nines on order so not sure which one I will put on the board yet. I was able to get the U-80 ordered back in mid June. The web site says orders will ship when production is finished basically. I am really looking forward to this board, maybe it will even be my "endgame" lol. I would love to hear everyone's guess on how much the production on a kit like this might take. To those of you who are more experienced in these things, if you had to speculate, when do you think the production of a kit like this will be ready to ship? From what I have seen delays seem to be the norm, so I understand why vendors avoid putting exact dates on pre-orders etc. (case in point, still waiting on the KBD8xMkII, which it seems had to do a do-over on the brass plates...)

What do ya think? :)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Tue, 24 September 2019, 02:52:31
I'm in exactly same position - waiting for 8X MkII and new brass wieghts, then U80-A.
I asked Rama about timescales. it could be 3-4 months.
I would love to get it on Christmas, but there is possibility that it will be January.
Fingers crossed guys will run it smoothly and all will be ready for without delays, cause with delays it can hit 6 months...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:51:13
Pretty excited to receive mine.

Got the grey option, but can't remember the name for it haha.

I check every day for a potential update on the manu process.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/56QxvVJBMPK3-z3lae_sf3zdXsI=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10838143/monkas.png)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Tue, 24 September 2019, 10:03:16
Moon, I also ordered it.
They should tell us already that at least production has started...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DB24 on Tue, 24 September 2019, 20:45:13
I'm in exactly same position - waiting for 8X MkII and new brass wieghts, then U80-A.
I asked Rama about timescales. it could be 3-4 months.
I would love to get it on Christmas, but there is possibility that it will be January.
Fingers crossed guys will run it smoothly and all will be ready for without delays, cause with delays it can hit 6 months...
Thanks for this reply. Now I can kind of conceptualize a little more realistically about when I might receive this board and not get hopes up too much. Maybe January? OK cool. I will put it out of my mind a bit and keep waiting on that 8X MKII lol  ;D
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: walie on Tue, 24 September 2019, 21:56:05
2020 at the very least, I'm not expecting it until the spring
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Fri, 01 November 2019, 06:02:35
2020 at the very least, I'm not expecting it until the spring

Yep, Rama confirmed on Instagram - Q1 2020.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 08 February 2020, 14:21:55
Has anyone seen any updates on these? I know Q1 means it could still extend until April, but I'm just curious since I haven't seen anything from Rama about it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: boog on Wed, 26 February 2020, 06:57:53
Has anyone seen any updates on these? I know Q1 means it could still extend until April, but I'm just curious since I haven't seen anything from Rama about it.

Iím subscribed to Rama updates and this was mentioned on it:
https://rama.works/prototype/2020/2/26/m50-a-grid-u80-a-thermal-updates

Expected some time in March.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: walie on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:20:10
Has anyone seen any updates on these? I know Q1 means it could still extend until April, but I'm just curious since I haven't seen anything from Rama about it.

Iím subscribed to Rama updates and this was mentioned on it:
https://rama.works/prototype/2020/2/26/m50-a-grid-u80-a-thermal-updates

Expected some time in March.

No it isnít
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: boog on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:44:08
Has anyone seen any updates on these? I know Q1 means it could still extend until April, but I'm just curious since I haven't seen anything from Rama about it.

Iím subscribed to Rama updates and this was mentioned on it:
https://rama.works/prototype/2020/2/26/m50-a-grid-u80-a-thermal-updates

Expected some time in March.

No it isnít

Sorry while not being very helpful, youíre right... completion expected in March. Shipment says between April and May. Unless Iím missing something.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: jx6203 on Wed, 29 April 2020, 09:34:32
Hi, I am not sure if this is the thread to post it. But if someone is interested in a E-White U80A do PM me. Would like to sell my spot away at cost price for those that are really interested in it. I apologised and if this is wrong, please delete my message. 
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:12:07
What keycaps are you pairing with a Milk U80-A?  Is GMK Bleached close enough?  The latest posts on that GB thread sound like it won't be close. 
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: dabeshu on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:54:29
Looks bulky and oblong. The more classical, standard TKL design is really where itís at for me. Then again the only thing I like from them that isnít a t-shirt or an action figure is the M60. Thermal is actually nice too. Their ďmute-mountĒ sounds cool but most of the keyboards they produce follow a form and shaping that just ends up looking really odd most of the time. The m60 and the thermal are sleek but their larger boards tend to look like, well, tanks. Iíd much rather spend my money on something that acts as a complement to my set-up, not something that stands out like a sore thumb and dominates desk space. They really should trim up their designs.. IMO most of their products just look stupid. Just my $0.02
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:00:10
Looks bulky and oblong. The more classical, standard TKL design is really where itís at for me. Then again the only thing I like from them that isnít a t-shirt or an action figure is the M60. Thermal is actually nice too. Their ďmute-mountĒ sounds cool but most of the keyboards they produce follow a form and shaping that just ends up looking really odd most of the time. The m60 and the thermal are sleek but their larger boards tend to look like, well, tanks. Iíd much rather spend my money on something that acts as a complement to my set-up, not something that stands out like a sore thumb and dominates desk space. They really should trim up their designs.. IMO most of their products just look stupid. Just my $0.02

I don't entirely disagree with you. I entered this GB because I want a hotswap board with great build quality. The mute feature also piqued my interest. That said, I agree that the design is a bit large and round for my taste. I'm still excited for this to ship out; I just wish updates were more substantial and/or frequent.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: idislikematt on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:15:10
Hi, I am not sure if this is the thread to post it. But if someone is interested in a E-White U80A do PM me. Would like to sell my spot away at cost price for those that are really interested in it. I apologised and if this is wrong, please delete my message.

I would love one of these! PMíd!
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: typo on Wed, 06 May 2020, 02:07:32
Can't go wrong with Rama but he certainly has/had nicer ones.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: siggerzz on Fri, 22 May 2020, 04:51:38
If anyone's interested in selling their spot, please let me know! Happy to pay extra too :)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 11 July 2020, 06:46:26
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...

Year later + £78 of customs and tax...

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Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 11 July 2020, 13:29:48
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...

Year later + £78 of customs and tax...

(Attachment Link)

Yours will arrive two or three days before mine (DHL says the 16th and the Rama store says the 17th). I've never had to pay customs in the US though, so I'm not sure how that works over here (or if it's even a thing).

I need to lube the BOX black and BOX yellow switches I've been sitting on all this time so that I have something to stick in it when it arrives.

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 11 July 2020, 15:40:36
Well... so I ordered it!
Got the Moon color.
Including postage to UK, £386.
Now, in next 3 months, Customs gonna slap me in a face...

Year later + £78 of customs and tax...

(Attachment Link)

Yours will arrive two or three days before mine (DHL says the 16th and the Rama store says the 17th). I've never had to pay customs in the US though, so I'm not sure how that works over here (or if it's even a thing).

I need to lube the BOX black and BOX yellow switches I've been sitting on all this time so that I have something to stick in it when it arrives.

I have tealios waiting for it.
Also got new lube and zeal stabs.
Tuesday will be nice :)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: tonyjones on Sat, 11 July 2020, 23:32:12
I'm hoping there are extras!@
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sun, 12 July 2020, 06:26:48
I'm hoping there are extras!@

They may have some.
Second round will start very soon, so you can order then.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Harnak on Sun, 12 July 2020, 18:46:27
Mine came in today! I'll try to take some ****ty pictures tonight of it
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sun, 12 July 2020, 19:13:19
Mine came in today! I'll try to take some ****ty pictures tonight of it

What color did you get?  I have not received any shipping notification yet.  Mine is white.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Harnak on Sun, 12 July 2020, 23:59:07
Here are pictures! I apologize for the quality, I only have a phone.

(https://i.imgur.com/6adLiOZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wdLMbIl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pElwTrk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3himogK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z5YOVGd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eofDXWc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Aowr1Y1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BVEz0lW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mudIolE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rm0HW6w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vpxgM3g.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3dtYl9M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mKxy5S1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E5vqQ8m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/l4InUeZ.jpg)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 13 July 2020, 06:29:12
Got mine today!

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Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:21:49
Very cool, guys. Those pics are making me impatient!
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Mon, 13 July 2020, 16:51:56
Mine is now fully built, typing on it:)

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I've put SA Amber Screen on it now, but I think for keyboard this high, gmk profile would be better.

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Plus now I'm seriously considering getting HyperX pudding keycaps:)


EDIT: Yep, GMK is the way to go with this one :)


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Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 13 July 2020, 17:19:59
Wow, really nice packaging on these.

Great design overall.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 15 July 2020, 10:39:27
Wow, that looks great, Phinix!

I got a text message from DHL saying mine would arrive today, but the DHL tracking says tomorrow, and the Rama shopify site says the day after tomorrow. Aaaaah!  :confused:

I had a mini-panic last night because I couldn't remember if I had any stabilizers, but I apparently still have a spare set of Zeal stabs, so I'm good.

Mine is the Port color, which I haven't seen from anyone else yet, so I'll post some pictures. I'm planning on putting GMK DMG on it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:27:13
I got a text message from DHL saying mine would arrive today, but the DHL tracking says tomorrow, and the Rama shopify site says the day after tomorrow. Aaaaah!  :confused:

Are you in the US?  How many days ago you received a notification that it has been shipped?  Thanks.

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:24:45
I got a text message from DHL saying mine would arrive today, but the DHL tracking says tomorrow, and the Rama shopify site says the day after tomorrow. Aaaaah!  :confused:

Are you in the US?  How many days ago you received a notification that it has been shipped?  Thanks.

Yes, I got the initial text message that it shipped about a week ago, and then I got another one this morning.

It did indeed arrive today. Initial impression is disappointment in the rose gold weight. It is tarnished on both sides (the visible portions) and a bit on the bottom. It's more severe on the left side, but the right side is clearly a fingerprint. I'm not sure I'll be able to show this in pictures very well. I'm not super anal about stuff like that, but the shiny mirror polish is one of the major aesthetic draws of the board. Anodizing on the rest of the case looks good. There are slight scuffs on the inside and the outside of the bottom case, but they're barely noticeable and not on visible parts of the keyboard. Tape on the box was not sealed; maybe customs looked inside.

GMK DMG's purple color is dark in comparison, but I think it will be a good match.

I'll get some pictures up later tonight.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:59:17
That is disappointing.  I just got a shipping notice today so mine won't be here for another week if I am lucky.  I have Milk with the silver weight and also an extra rose weight.  I will be able to do some comparison between the 2.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:54:31
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:12:33
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.

I am on the same boat as you. My weight came tarnished and scratched.
Did you alert Rama about this?
I tried their ticketing portal but it seems broken. I've tried to login with store account but it seems like you need a different registration. I submitted a ticket and now I can't complete registration to check on the ticket lol!
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:15:34
Email them directly at support@rama.works
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:17:32
Email them directly at support@rama.works

I totally forgot about that. I just did. Thanks!
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:20:09
Keep us posted.  Mine just shipped out yesterday.  I won't see my tarnished weight for another week if I am lucky.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: Micoo on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:29:04
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.

I am on the same boat as you. My weight came tarnished and scratched.
Did you alert Rama about this?
I tried their ticketing portal but it seems broken. I've tried to login with store account but it seems like you need a different registration. I submitted a ticket and now I can't complete registration to check on the ticket lol!

My weight is the same (Port U80).I wonder if it is only affecting the Rose Gold weights? Haven't seen anyone else bring up the issue with any other colour.

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Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Fri, 17 July 2020, 02:13:30
I have Moon version and don't think it has this tarnish. It is scratched thou.
I have two small scratches in the bottom of the weight.

Weight is VERY prone to finger prints and staining, but if i clean them a lot, it disappears. Then shows up again... would that be tarnish?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: eriatilox on Fri, 17 July 2020, 04:40:48
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.

I am on the same boat as you. My weight came tarnished and scratched.
Did you alert Rama about this?
I tried their ticketing portal but it seems broken. I've tried to login with store account but it seems like you need a different registration. I submitted a ticket and now I can't complete registration to check on the ticket lol!

My weight is the same (Port U80).I wonder if it is only affecting the Rose Gold weights? Haven't seen anyone else bring up the issue with any other colour.

(Attachment Link)
My port got tarnishes too. I thought mine was bad.. until I see this.

I contacted Rama last week and they're willing to send a replacement, but yesterday they emailed me an update saying that it looks like it's a problem with this particular batch so I assumed there're plenty of weights with this problem. They're collating the numbers and will need some time to produce the replacement.

Sent from my Mi MIX 3 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Fri, 17 July 2020, 05:24:07
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.

I am on the same boat as you. My weight came tarnished and scratched.
Did you alert Rama about this?
I tried their ticketing portal but it seems broken. I've tried to login with store account but it seems like you need a different registration. I submitted a ticket and now I can't complete registration to check on the ticket lol!

My weight is the same (Port U80).I wonder if it is only affecting the Rose Gold weights? Haven't seen anyone else bring up the issue with any other colour.

(Attachment Link)
My port got tarnishes too. I thought mine was bad.. until I see this.

I contacted Rama last week and they're willing to send a replacement, but yesterday they emailed me an update saying that it looks like it's a problem with this particular batch so I assumed there're plenty of weights with this problem. They're collating the numbers and will need some time to produce the replacement.

Sent from my Mi MIX 3 using Tapatalk

Thanks for updating this thread.
That is good to know and at the very least, it sounds like they are willing to correct the problems.
Aside from the weight tarnishing issue, the results from anodising is very hard to fault.

I have Moon version and don't think it has this tarnish. It is scratched thou.
I have two small scratches in the bottom of the weight.

Weight is VERY prone to finger prints and staining, but if i clean them a lot, it disappears. Then shows up again... would that be tarnish?

It sounds like it could be the same, but I think if you post some pictures here, you'll get more eyes to see and possibly some feedback from others.

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:18:45
I am surprised that the weight's finishing quality was not doubled-checked before packing and shipping.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: jaytae on Fri, 17 July 2020, 22:40:39
Do the other models of Rama works have weights or is it just the U80?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DiGatto on Sat, 18 July 2020, 13:21:24
Ready to buy tarnished for the full price, actually I don't care about them) if someone ready to sell I ready to buy for the full price
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sat, 18 July 2020, 16:27:39
Ready to buy tarnished for the full price, actually I don't care about them) if someone ready to sell I ready to buy for the full price

They will prabably be some for sale on reddit or ebay soon - people just started to receive them all over the world.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DiGatto on Sat, 18 July 2020, 20:35:33
Ready to buy tarnished for the full price, actually I don't care about them) if someone ready to sell I ready to buy for the full price

They will prabably be some for sale on reddit or ebay soon - people just started to receive them all over the world.

It will depend how they will try to fix
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: FionaC on Tue, 21 July 2020, 00:45:22
What do you guys think is a reasonable price for a new U80-a on mechmarket?
Also I see above someone mentioned R2 will be coming soon, is that true? If so I will just wait for R2 instead of paying double for one now  :)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:01:59
My milk bottom weight is also scratched from both bottom edge. It's obvious that it could be a handling issue since the scratches are symmetries.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: ArashiNishi on Tue, 21 July 2020, 08:40:20
What do you guys think is a reasonable price for a new U80-a on mechmarket?
Also I see above someone mentioned R2 will be coming soon, is that true? If so I will just wait for R2 instead of paying double for one now  :)

I read that they will have a R2 for U80-A "soon", but first they will run a R2 for M65-B, so it will take some time...
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: ArashiNishi on Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:31:33
Pics of my port U80-A. Two pics of the tarnish on the weight. The difference in color between the DMG purple/pink and the case color isn't as drastic in person as it is in the photo.

I am on the same boat as you. My weight came tarnished and scratched.
Did you alert Rama about this?
I tried their ticketing portal but it seems broken. I've tried to login with store account but it seems like you need a different registration. I submitted a ticket and now I can't complete registration to check on the ticket lol!

My weight is the same (Port U80).I wonder if it is only affecting the Rose Gold weights? Haven't seen anyone else bring up the issue with any other colour.

(Attachment Link)
My port got tarnishes too. I thought mine was bad.. until I see this.

I contacted Rama last week and they're willing to send a replacement, but yesterday they emailed me an update saying that it looks like it's a problem with this particular batch so I assumed there're plenty of weights with this problem. They're collating the numbers and will need some time to produce the replacement.

Sent from my Mi MIX 3 using Tapatalk

Thanks for updating this thread.
That is good to know and at the very least, it sounds like they are willing to correct the problems.
Aside from the weight tarnishing issue, the results from anodising is very hard to fault.

I have Moon version and don't think it has this tarnish. It is scratched thou.
I have two small scratches in the bottom of the weight.

Weight is VERY prone to finger prints and staining, but if i clean them a lot, it disappears. Then shows up again... would that be tarnish?

It sounds like it could be the same, but I think if you post some pictures here, you'll get more eyes to see and possibly some feedback from others.

At the end of this (https://rama.works/prototype/2020/7/18/kara-t0-production-sample-keycap-profile) post they talk about the problem of tarnish on the PORT weights.
In short, notify them respectfully by email (support@rama.works) or submit a support ticket (https://support.rama.care) and once they know how many are affected, they will produce new weights and send them through DHL express.
If there are problems in other colorways, notify them too about that, maybe it could be more batches affected.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: DiGatto on Tue, 21 July 2020, 20:51:39
What do you guys think is a reasonable price for a new U80-a on mechmarket?
Also I see above someone mentioned R2 will be coming soon, is that true? If so I will just wait for R2 instead of paying double for one now  :)

I doubt that some one will sell absolutely new in the perfect condition. I'm ready to buy hotswap version at list for $500 and solderable for $450 with current defects. Everything about the sound.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:58:29
My U80-A arrived. Milk body, silver plate, silver weight, rose plate rose weight don't seem to have defect after a quick inspection.  Will have to find time to put it together this weekend.  Have Holy Panda switches ready.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 22 July 2020, 20:28:41
Notice something interesting. If i have damper weight, the alpha near A keys have echos, but rest of the alpha does not. Since the damper is right in the middle of keyboard. It caused uneven key sound across the board.....
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: timbaaa on Wed, 22 July 2020, 21:51:04
My U80-A arrived. Milk body, silver plate, silver weight, rose plate rose weight don't seem to have defect after a quick inspection.  Will have to find time to put it together this weekend.  Have Holy Panda switches ready.

Happy for you that no issues were present. That must be your good karma.
White with RG accents should be a beaut! I'm very curious how your combination turns out.

Notice something interesting. If i have damper weight, the alpha near A keys have echos, but rest of the alpha does not. Since the damper is right in the middle of keyboard. It caused uneven key sound across the board.....

That is a little disappointing at $45. Especially for those who bought it for what was marketed as having an "adjusted acoustic signature".
Does it come across only in quiet environments?
Which switches did you use on your build?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: shansoft on Fri, 24 July 2020, 00:35:54
My U80-A arrived. Milk body, silver plate, silver weight, rose plate rose weight don't seem to have defect after a quick inspection.  Will have to find time to put it together this weekend.  Have Holy Panda switches ready.

Happy for you that no issues were present. That must be your good karma.
White with RG accents should be a beaut! I'm very curious how your combination turns out.

Notice something interesting. If i have damper weight, the alpha near A keys have echos, but rest of the alpha does not. Since the damper is right in the middle of keyboard. It caused uneven key sound across the board.....

That is a little disappointing at $45. Especially for those who bought it for what was marketed as having an "adjusted acoustic signature".
Does it come across only in quiet environments?
Which switches did you use on your build?

It does sound pretty good with the damper, the problem is it only works for keys thats on top of it.
Currently using Zilent V2 67g, so the sound of THOCC is very obvious to me. I prefer to take the damper off to make it sound much more consistence.
Overall, I think with middle part taken out and having it hollow makes the board sounds really close Topre, which I really enjoy!

I currently don't have brass internal weight, so I can't really test it.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: djchup on Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:43:27
Just built mine, left arrow key doesn't function on my PCB (tried multiple switches).  Also I was shorted a screw.  -_-
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sat, 25 July 2020, 15:11:33
With the internal weight, a completed build of U80-A weights in at 4.23 kg, 9.32 lb.  As a comparison, my previously heaviest keyboard KMAC is less than 6 lb. 
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: sagarsiddhpura on Sun, 26 July 2020, 13:53:15
Is there any R2 planned?
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:03:46
Finished. 

(https://i.imgur.com/dG9vsAa.jpg)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: phinix on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:35:35
Is there any R2 planned?

Yes, as soon as Rama finishes delivering first round, they will start second one.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: ratchetcat on Mon, 27 July 2020, 20:11:12
Received my U80-A today. Build went smoothly and I'm pleased with the outcome.

(http://www.catagraph.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/20200727_project_photo_rama-works-u80a_1-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: whiskeyjack on Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:01:57
Beware! Waited over a year for this and all of the screws they sent are completely wrong. Even watched their videos to confirm. Sent 4 screws for 12  holes and then didn't send any screws for the PCB attachment to the base. I now have a $1000 paperweight. Glad I waited all that time.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:05:12
Beware! Waited over a year for this and all of the screws they sent are completely wrong. Even watched their videos to confirm. Sent 4 screws for 12  holes and then didn't send any screws for the PCB attachment to the base. I now have a $1000 paperweight. Glad I waited all that time.

Have you contacted RAMA and did they tell you they are NOT going to send you new screws?

Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: whiskeyjack on Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:18:43
No I have not tried contacting them. For a company that prides themselves on quality control and doing things right, I shouldn't have to worry about screws missing. When I purchased this through Rama I expected a certain level of professionalism in the product. This isn't a $120 Leopold. Everything should have been in the box. Especially after the wait on this. I might try contacting them, but at this point I don't even care. I've lost all love for this hobby because of this.
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:27:30
No I have not tried contacting them. For a company that prides themselves on quality control and doing things right, I shouldn't have to worry about screws missing. When I purchased this through Rama I expected a certain level of professionalism in the product. This isn't a $120 Leopold. Everything should have been in the box. Especially after the wait on this. I might try contacting them, but at this point I don't even care. I've lost all love for this hobby because of this.

If you spend $600 - $700 on a custom keyboard, waited for over a year, finally received it, found out a few screws are missing, and decided not to contact RAMA to get them to send you the screws you need, and are ready to just say "**** it" and throw the whole thing to the trash, then yeah, this hobby is not for you.  This hobby is not for five-year-olds.

Dude, they can't read your mind.  email RAMA WORKS at support@rama.works.  They will take care of you. 
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: litster on Sun, 02 August 2020, 11:12:09
If you do contact rama works, don't be that guy.

(https://i.imgur.com/90XFCOt.png)

https://rama.works/prototype/2020/7/18/kara-t0-production-sample-keycap-profile
Title: Re: RAMA WORKS U80-A
Post by: walie on Sun, 02 August 2020, 22:59:17
You don't attach the PCB to the base with screws...

Do you know what you're talking about.