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Title: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:29:09
IRON165 by Smith + Rune

(https://i.imgur.com/bKoPax2.jpg)

After almost a year in research and development, we are excited to present the IRON165 by Smith + Rune. Rather than drawing inspiration from things outside our community, we focused on the incredible designs the community itself has created over the years. The IRON165 aims to be a distillation of these positive innovations, included in one premium board.


***** FE Public Raffle Link! ***** (https://forms.gle/Q7qJuUazDoEZ1yQM9)

First 3-minute window opens at 9am EDT. Use this link to determine your local time: https://everytimezone.com/s/a35cb8be
Second 3-minute window opens at 9pm EDT. Use this link to determine your local time: https://everytimezone.com/s/cfccf7be

Join Smith + Rune Discord (https://discord.gg/YjU7wRy)

Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/smith_rune/)



*****
Please reference the second post for updates
Please reference the third post for additional renders
*****

Group Buy Timeline

Standard Edition

The group buy will go live on October 19th, 2019 at 9am EDT worldwide!

Founder's Edition

The FE public raffle will be comprised of two 3-minute windows on October 12th, 2019 at both 9am EDT and 9pm EDT.

Forms will be linked both here and on our Discord when the raffles open. Please ONLY enter once. Multiple entries will be disqualified. Invoices and payment details will be issued within 24 hours.


Vendors, Quantities, and Group Buy Date

Standard Edition

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle all sales of the Iron165 SE.

What this hopefully means, and why we're so excited to work with these amazing stores, is that we should be able to offer not only a smoother buying experience, but also a higher quantity of boards than we initially thought possible.

USA - CannonKeys - Up to 100 boards
EU - MyKeyboard - Up to 50 boards
AP - ILUMKB - Up to 50 boards



Founder's Edition

The Iron165 FE will be limited to 26 serialized units, never to be made again. We will be handling the group buy for these directly. There will be a public raffle for 10 total group buy spots.


Features

Founder’s Edition Features


Standard Edition Features

Standard Edition Colorways

Layout Options (see FAQ for ISO-related info)

(https://i.imgur.com/lLNRxee.png)

Optimized Plate, the Process, and FEA analysis

More

Keyboard plate FEA analysis was wanted to measure deflection and try to achieve a uniform plate deflection distribution across the keyboard.  This concept has been done before with the Omega60 talking about mounting points.  One of the first criticisms was that without a PCB and switch the study was worthless.  I started out by modeling a small sample before moving to a full size plate.  I constructed a small plate made of brass, switch made of POM, and PCB made of resin injected plastic.

(https://i.imgur.com/89vH2nk.png)

I wanted to see the difference in displacement just a plate and a fully modeled with PCB, switches and Plate.  With modeling of the entire system, there are two options in consideration:

Fully bonded - Solidworks treats the model as though it was fully welded together at every contact point.
No Penetration - Materials wont move through each other but can move independently from other models.

I estimated typing force to be around 2N max on each key as I measured my repeated tapping on a scale at 200g as the hardest I would ever really type (and I like to bottom out).

(https://i.imgur.com/UjasR7v.png)

Next is the fully bonded model with plate and switches.  Again a 2N force is applied to the top of the switch model with fixtures mounted at the four screw holes.

(https://i.imgur.com/PuKiSgb.png)

Lastly is the most realistic model the no penetration.  Same force and Fixture as above.  Notice how the displacement doesnt flow as uniformily through the switches vs the fully bonded model above.  You'll also see the displacement pattern is more similiar to that of just the plate.

(https://i.imgur.com/E1nBLCI.png)

If you compare the displacement results we conclude that just a plate can be used to model displacement without the extra PCB and switch modeling effort.  The displacement of the plate model is approx 35% more than the plate with stiffness of PCB and Switches added to it. 

Since each switch has to be setup and run individually I concentrated on making just the alphas as consistent as possible.  This is still a work in progress, but here are the initial results.

This was the stock designed plate mounted with gaskets.  Numbers in each switch represent the maximum deflection in millimeters for a 2N force:

(https://i.imgur.com/0B6EnV4.png)

Adding in relief cuts we can try to make the lower deflecting keys increase to the same deflection of the higher deflecting keys.  This resulted in a decrease in standard deviation of 25% and a decrease in range by 35%.

(https://i.imgur.com/BiZM0Lp.png)




Prototype Pics

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FE Renders by Abec13 (additional renders in the third post)

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(https://i.imgur.com/pB6Lv07.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/3n9XGxj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/90XeuV4.jpg)

SE Renders by Abec13 (additional renders in the third post)

(https://i.imgur.com/fF8J6Sw.png)

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FAQ

New studio? New board? Why should we trust you?

While this is a first in the keyboard community for us, we are proud of the team we’ve put together. Combined, we bring ten years mechanical engineering experience and five years of supply-chain management for small-batch, boutique products in other industries.

Smith + Rune is grounded in basic engineering principles, with a touch of magic and mysticism created by this wonderful community.

The rune logo is cool! Does it mean anything?

The two Norse runes featured in our logo, Sowilo and Raido, come from the Elder Futhark alphabet, the oldest form of runic alphabets. Sowilo means strength, power, success, while Raido roughly translates to ride, or journey. Together they form a bindrune, drawing the power of both into one creating a charm to ensure a successful endeavor and bringing a bit of luck to your desktop.


Why is it named IRON165? Where’s all the iron?

The iron industry essentially shaped the industrial revolution of the 1800’s. Its ubiquity has led to its inclusion in nearly every industry. Iron is used to create many of the tools or machine parts we use today.

A keyboard is essentially a modern, but basic tool we use daily and we kept this central in our design choices. While beautiful, we placed function over form when designing the IRON165. In its simplest form, it had to be the best at being a tool first. Something durable, sturdy and a pleasure to use.

While not constructed entirely from iron (although steel is made with iron), we felt this board embodied the more abstract sense of the word. Iron is strong, iron is reliable, iron is long-lasting.

Whoa! Where’s the ISO support?

We will support ISO if enough interest is shown, but all of our plate files will be made open-source (including ISO) regardless. So even if you’re an avid ISO user and we don’t have an ISO plate, you’ll be able to get one made. We will also be optimizing our ISO plate for consistency, just like our other plates.

The PCB will support ISO out-of-the-box.

What parts will be user-replaceable?

Our hope is that everything, except the case itself will be user-replaceable in some form or fashion. One of our main goals when designing this board was to make absolutely sure that no IRON165 will ever become a glorified paperweight.

The renders are amazing! Wow! Who did those?

All of our renders came from the amazing Abec13! We can’t thank him enough!

Interest Check Disclaimer

Keep in mind this is an interest check. Nothing, including options, pricing, etc, is final until the GB starts. This IC represents the most correct, up-to-date information we have regarding the Iron165 at this time. Based on prototyping and manufacturing samples, some things may change.

We will be announcing any changes, if any, here first, and on Discord as well.


Shoutouts

My most sincerest thanks go out to the other half of Smith + Rune, lBaron. Without you, this board would’ve never made it this far.

We want to thank those that have supported us from the very beginning of this project, including Langelandia, bhk1004, Spade, Eskimojo, Full / Aslejoh, Minterly, Oldcat, Capsy, and the rest of the Gray Studio and TYL discords. I likely missed some names, but you know who you are.

We also want to thank the community as a whole including the designers, vendors, and of course, the streamers and content creators. You are part of what makes a project like this so fun and rewarding. Watching this community grow has been incredible!



Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:29:24
Current Progress / Change Log / Updates

Friday, October 11th, 2019



Monday, October 7th, 2019


Thursday, September 19th, 2019


Friday, August 30th, 2019


Sunday, August 18th, 2019


Sunday, August 11th, 2019


Sunday, August 4th, 2019


Saturday, July 20th, 2019

Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:29:32
FE Renders by Abec13

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(https://i.imgur.com/2yDtO34.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jGNYRq6.jpg)

SE Renders by Abec13

(https://i.imgur.com/Jycq8Cq.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6ZStLSK.png)

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Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: aslejoh on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:30:15
Oh wow!! So friggin awesome! :o Good luck guys!
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Spade on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:31:32
Beeeeg nut
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: valkyr1e on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:32:28
Oh wow.

Yes please.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: enome on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:32:52
POGGERS
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Lormania on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:34:38
One of the best boards I have seen!!!!
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: _ODIN_ on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:34:51
Amazing design, I will follow this project closely.

Thank you for releasing the plate files because I would like to use an ISO layout.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:36:25
I feel broke just looking at this

I'm so excited you guys
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Bhk1004 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:36:51
Ummm. Wtf took so long slacker.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: jordowag on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:38:21
I got such talented friends!!!   :)) This is gonna be an awesome board.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:38:40
The materials look very nice.  I also like the rune detail.  How far recessed are the bottoms of the keycaps when mounted? There are no renders of a side view so it’s hard to tell.  From the first image, they look almost even with the top edge.  I think most of us prefer the caps to sit slightly lower
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: ogWalker on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:39:03
Looks great! I'm definitely in for this <3

Would love to see a navy or baby blue version too.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Minterly on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:40:58
gimme brass or gimme death
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lbaron on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:42:21
The materials look very nice.  I also like the rune detail.  How far recessed are the bottoms of the keycaps when mounted? There are no renders of a side view so it’s hard to tell.  From the first image, they look almost even with the top edge.  I think most of us prefer the caps to sit slightly lower

Top bezel is 7mm + gasket above the switch plate
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lolafineday on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:42:44
Lemme in!

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Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: stuey138 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:42:56
Love the FEA, that rose gold colour better not just be a render because it's so pretty. What's expected cost?
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Captain Shwah on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:43:17
This board is so sick. :eek:

Beautiful design and the amount of research you've put into it is impressive.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: phunktional on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:43:57
All in
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Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:49:45
Gorgeous board! All in!


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Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Valian on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:50:16
This is the keyboard I've been looking for. Can't wait for the GB!

Have you considered a metallic grey finish?
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:50:25
Extremely exciting project, beautifully designed and hopefully all that excitement and desire remains once the estimated price is announced (unlike a couple other similar designs).
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: SolidCactus on Thu, 04 July 2019, 13:50:25
Lovely board! Saw this on reddit and was wondering what the board was! Consider me in!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: tunadesu on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:11:06
Super clean, been seeing the teasers on IG. The back is giving me some 7V vibes. I dig.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: LXVRGS on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:13:07
INJECT THIS INTO MY VEINS
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Post by: PotatoTM on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:13:15
Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: sl70309 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:24:16
"limited quantity" again... :mad:
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Post by: urbantheii on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:27:39
IN!
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Post by: Lelantos on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:29:52
O lawd

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: gautema on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:42:10
Looks really good. I’ll be trying hard for a spot on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: glubazoid on Thu, 04 July 2019, 14:45:36
Design looks gorgeous dudes, really digging the back weight/ bottom. It's just so damn clean!

I'll be following this
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 04 July 2019, 15:26:49
I hate you, I was just beginning to settle down, following my buying plan, and starting to finally have savings.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:03:30
This is beautiful. Definitely interested depending on availability and price!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:31:43
Copper base and gaskets? I'm in duder  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: dreisamkatze on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:36:41
This looks very beautiful. I'm interested.
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:40:52
The materials look very nice.  I also like the rune detail.  How far recessed are the bottoms of the keycaps when mounted? There are no renders of a side view so it’s hard to tell.  From the first image, they look almost even with the top edge.  I think most of us prefer the caps to sit slightly lower

Top bezel is 7mm + gasket above the switch plate

Okay, I’m not versed enough in the specifics to judge.  It looks like, from this diagram (which appears accurate since I’ve found the same in other diagrams), that the switch sticks up 6.6mm above the plate and the. Another 3.6mm to the top of the stem. 

[attachimg=1]

What I cannot seem to find is the height of a GMK keycap (depth of stem inserts and skirt height), to finish the equation.  Is there a standard that designers use?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: mrkantz on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:47:49
Hot damn! Very interested
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: xondat on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:14:20
The materials look very nice.  I also like the rune detail.  How far recessed are the bottoms of the keycaps when mounted? There are no renders of a side view so it’s hard to tell.  From the first image, they look almost even with the top edge.  I think most of us prefer the caps to sit slightly lower

Top bezel is 7mm + gasket above the switch plate

Okay, I’m not versed enough in the specifics to judge.  It looks like, from this diagram (which appears accurate since I’ve found the same in other diagrams), that the switch sticks up 6.6mm above the plate and the. Another 3.6mm to the top of the stem. 

(Attachment Link)

What I cannot seem to find is the height of a GMK keycap (depth of stem inserts and skirt height), to finish the equation.  Is there a standard that designers use?

Majority of boards are 7mm (including 268.1 for comparison).. Not enough imo, 7.5 is better. 7.8+ drowns the caps too much. Something like M65-A would be 6mm.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lbaron on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:18:46
Yeah it seemed that 7mm was standard when designing. Then it’ll be a little bit above cause of gasket compression but no more than .25mm or so.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: hansikhouse on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:20:42
In for the white depending on price  :))

Fantastic presentation btw.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:35:12
Thanks for the feedback, all.  I own the 268.1 and it is indeed almost exactly flush from case top edge to bottom of GMK caps.  Don’t suppose we convince you to adjust the design closer to 7.5mm? Especially since the inner edge has a fillet
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lbaron on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:42:50
It wouldn’t be hard from a design perspective but a huge design goal was to have as low as possible front bezel.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: xondat on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:47:33
Yeah it seemed that 7mm was standard when designing. Then it’ll be a little bit above cause of gasket compression but no more than .25mm or so.

I learnt with a gasket board that even .1mm off can change it visually a lot. Double the gap sorta thing. Worth considering maybe, sure you have though.

It wouldn’t be hard from a design perspective but a huge design goal was to have as low as possible front bezel.

The switches still sit at the same level when changing bezel height though.

I've always argued it's the height the switches sit at, not strictly the front height (due to changing bezel heights).
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Holicalis on Thu, 04 July 2019, 17:52:41
Is that rose gold plate and weight going to be in the gb?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 04 July 2019, 18:01:03
Any idea about prices?

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: jedidood on Thu, 04 July 2019, 18:40:29
Why are you doing this to me... Now I want this badly... This is a wallet killing hobby.... but I LOVE IT!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Captain Shwah on Thu, 04 July 2019, 19:43:36
Is that rose gold plate and weight going to be in the gb?

Those are polished copper
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Post by: cronohack on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:14:44
I hope the pricing is competitive for this! :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lpop on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:17:50
Oh wow this is a beautiful looking kit. Absolutely looking forward to more information ab it.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: 1023andy on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:44:06
WIll there be color options for the logo?
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Post by: rohangpatil on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:52:53
In
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Post by: Abdallah9 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:55:39
This looks so beautiful. Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Abdallah9 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:56:52
Definitely buying this.
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Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 04 July 2019, 21:39:07
This looks amazing! Just waiting to see the price.
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Post by: luumii on Thu, 04 July 2019, 21:40:02
Looks amazing, definitely in for this!

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: kitty on Thu, 04 July 2019, 21:54:25
very luxurious!! any estimates on when the GB would run, hoping it'll be a while so my wallet has time to recover from all the recent keycap GBs :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 04 July 2019, 22:13:54
Hoyl ****! This is absolutely gorgeous. I knew you were working on something but this surpassed my wildest expectations. Can't wait to see this GB move forward, and can't wait to see what the final product looks like!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: leexy on Thu, 04 July 2019, 22:47:06
missing a key m8
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: cygnus21 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 22:54:27
That polished copper is going to be hot.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: PotatoTM on Thu, 04 July 2019, 23:02:42
Why 02 in the top right corner of the back?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: toake_01 on Thu, 04 July 2019, 23:08:18
Love it! Especially that clean white!  But the polished copper badge is bordering pink and it might not match alot of keysets...do you have plans for other colors?

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: KeyT on Fri, 05 July 2019, 00:30:40
I love this.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: MatthewPham on Fri, 05 July 2019, 00:37:28
I assume we're looking at prices upwards of 600?


Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: happycamper87 on Fri, 05 July 2019, 00:39:56
This looks amazing. Hopefully, the price won't be too high ($300) or less. A guy can dream.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:15:52
This looks amazing. Hopefully, the price won't be too high ($300) or less. A guy can dream.

That's what I'm hoping. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: MatthewPham on Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:41:10
This looks amazing. Hopefully, the price won't be too high ($300) or less. A guy can dream.



copper base and steel top pretty much ensures it's gonna be pretty expensive sadly.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Walnut on Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:43:07
this is legit gorgeous. im in for one
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: aslejoh on Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:50:18
Why 02 in the top right corner of the back?

It is the limited board numbering, board #02
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 05 July 2019, 02:38:54
Hope ISO support is added in the GB, but the plate files are an alright backup.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: gautema on Fri, 05 July 2019, 02:54:22
This looks amazing. Hopefully, the price won't be too high ($300) or less. A guy can dream.



copper base and steel top pretty much ensures it's gonna be pretty expensive sadly.

Only the FE has copper base and steel top. This will not be under $300. It will probably be at least twice that. The regular might hit a lower price point, but I'd be really surprised if it was sub $300
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: teonchien on Fri, 05 July 2019, 05:37:01
Interested!! Hoping the price is affordable.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lbaron on Fri, 05 July 2019, 07:47:00
Why 02 in the top right corner of the back?

That was just an example of numbering for serializing the units. So it’ll start at 01 and go up. We felt doing a 01 / XXX was too busy
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 05 July 2019, 07:52:51
Why 02 in the top right corner of the back?

That was just an example of numbering for serializing the units. So it’ll start at 01 and go up. We felt doing a 01 / XXX was too busy

Good idea.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Surefoot on Fri, 05 July 2019, 09:11:09
Is there a clear coat or PVD on that copper ? It will get green-ish then black after a while if not protected...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 05 July 2019, 09:32:45
Good morning, everyone! Going to try and answer all the questions/concerns posted so far.

"limited quantity" again... :mad:

This is one of the hardest problems to solve unfortunately. While we'd love to make as many boards as needed, it simply isn't feasible when managing risk. As quantity grows so does our financial responsibilities as well as the infrastructure needed to facilitate it. While the FE will be very limited and only ever run once, we'll do our best to make available as many of the standard version as we can handle. If there is still demand after the first run, we will likely run a round 2 at some point in the future as well.

Thanks for the feedback, all.  I own the 268.1 and it is indeed almost exactly flush from case top edge to bottom of GMK caps.  Don’t suppose we convince you to adjust the design closer to 7.5mm? Especially since the inner edge has a fillet

We're still actively talking about this right now. The current idea on the table is to slightly increase the height of the top shell to allow keycaps to recess a bit further without adding any height to where the keycaps themselves sit, so only a visual change without any change in ergonomics. As Xondat mentioned, 7mm may not be enough, but anything over 7.5mm might be too much.

Is that rose gold plate and weight going to be in the gb?

The "rose gold" plate/weight pictured in the renders is supposed to represent mirror-polished copper which is the materials we've chosen for the Founder's Edition of the board. I think Abec did a great job capturing that on the renders.

Any idea about prices?


We are still waiting to hear back from potential manufacturers so I don't want to commit us to any pricing just yet. With that said, our goal is for this to remain a hobby and not replace our day jobs, which gives us room to play with the prices. We've already made some internal changes to reduce machining costs based on recommendations from potential manufacturers and will continue to do so as long as it does not compromise the function or design of the board. You can safely expect the Founder's Edition of the IRON165 to be very expensive given the materials we're using and the increased machine time.

WIll there be color options for the logo?

We are still exploring color options for the standard edition release, but the Founder's Edition will likely only have mirror-polished copper be an option for the rune badge.

very luxurious!! any estimates on when the GB would run, hoping it'll be a while so my wallet has time to recover from all the recent keycap GBs :)

No estimates for a GB timeline just yet. There is still lots do before setting a date. Once we have a date, we will announce it well in advance though.

Is there a clear coat or PVD on that copper ? It will get green-ish then black after a while if not protected...

The plan is to coat the copper and we're leaning towards clear cerakote right now. It's really, really cool. A raw option will likely be available upon request. Personally, I'd love to see one with intentional patina. Patina on copper can look really amazing.





Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: phlux on Fri, 05 July 2019, 09:44:47
This seems to fit the bill perfectly for what I've been looking for. Do the renders only depict the founder's edition, or will the standard edition look the same just with different materials?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: jeejax on Fri, 05 July 2019, 09:57:21
This looks completely amazing. I am digging the norse rune logo a ton.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 05 July 2019, 10:10:02
This seems to fit the bill perfectly for what I've been looking for. Do the renders only depict the founder's edition, or will the standard edition look the same just with different materials?

Sorry for not having renders of the standard edition ready for the IC :(

We haven't settled 100% on the final design for the bottom and base of the standard edition, but you can expect an aluminum top shell, aluminum bottom base, and likely a big brass weight.

Functionally, it will be the same board though.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: TheMilkmen on Fri, 05 July 2019, 10:41:28
the amount of engineering going into this board shows that we may have crossed into a new generation of keyboards here lol

no longer are they just tools that look or sound nice, its also that there is science behind the creation and more or less actual innovation and change for the modernity of keyboards, that said, I am for sure down on this board.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: frostfiree on Fri, 05 July 2019, 14:09:04
Wow, I am in on this board if I could get my hands on it. Haven't felt this way about a 65% in awhile.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 05 July 2019, 14:23:30
looks great

I am in for the FE


Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 05 July 2019, 14:31:24
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: loopaddiction on Fri, 05 July 2019, 16:17:42

WIll there be color options for the logo?

We are still exploring color options for the standard edition release, but the Founder's Edition will likely only have mirror-polished copper be an option for the rune badge.

Hopeful there are more non-copper color options for the logo & weight (for the standard v.) because although it's undoubtedly beautiful, the copper is a very distinct color that limits the types of keycaps that would match well IMO. More neutral color options would be perfect.

With that said, gorgeous design!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Pmalcolm88 on Fri, 05 July 2019, 17:12:18
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: krey on Fri, 05 July 2019, 21:08:13
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: xiroverflow on Sat, 06 July 2019, 02:47:24
I'm gonna sell my kidney for this. I need this in my life.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: distel on Sat, 06 July 2019, 03:59:47
Depending on price I am in
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 06 July 2019, 05:25:01
Reserved

Swear I've seen you comment reserved somewhere else. What are you trying to achieve?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: breckstar on Sat, 06 July 2019, 09:26:03
Depends on price, but looks awesome and could be in.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Ashardalon on Sat, 06 July 2019, 09:27:31
Very interested seeing the cost difference between the FE and the Standard Version. Looking great, and love the ingenuity regarding having an even sound and feel across the board.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: hyppialonso on Sat, 06 July 2019, 09:37:41
this is elegant! hope it can be a reasonable price !
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: vheissu on Sat, 06 July 2019, 16:01:29
Keyboard of the year.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: ptiede on Sat, 06 July 2019, 19:38:35
That thing is beautiful. I'd love to get a founders but I have a feeling those will be reserved for people
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: justinhigley on Sat, 06 July 2019, 21:12:06
I’d be all over a raw copper FE if given the chance.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Unicorncarl on Sat, 06 July 2019, 21:46:41
Looks amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 07 July 2019, 07:00:24
Really interesting. Will keep an eye on this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: forelsket on Mon, 08 July 2019, 06:40:15
Simply gorgeous!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 08 July 2019, 09:56:31
looks amazing,   I want this board !
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: KrasH on Mon, 08 July 2019, 12:05:29
I'm in if there's a black case + black (or brass) badge.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: dydy124 on Mon, 08 July 2019, 12:25:12
Reserved! Would love a right (edit : left) blocker for wkl config with the 7u space bar!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: SonSoda on Tue, 09 July 2019, 06:21:23
so cool, it is so charming. hope this will be around or below 200USD
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lolafineday on Tue, 09 July 2019, 06:33:27
This is so cool, hope it will be around 50bux

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 09 July 2019, 09:12:32
I got a crisp Andrew Jackson so I hope it's not more than that
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: mikenogo on Tue, 09 July 2019, 11:26:33
This is so cool, hope it will be around 50bux

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: dklein on Tue, 09 July 2019, 11:55:50
This is one of those boards that's so nice it makes me regret being a split ergo/ortho user
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 09 July 2019, 12:07:36
Is it going to cost more than RW Koyu Tank?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Clo_0lD on Tue, 09 July 2019, 12:39:28
My guess is 400-500 for SE and 700+ for FE
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lbaron on Tue, 09 July 2019, 14:25:09
This is one of those boards that's so nice it makes me regret being a split ergo/ortho user

It's an open source plate, others have expressed interest in making an ortho plate and PCB for it.  It very might be a possibility for you to mod it.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Tue, 09 July 2019, 15:56:35
Hey everyone,

Just want to touch on a few questions that keep coming up related to availability and price. I know everyone hates waiting. We are still working out the final details, comparing multiple manufacturers, and calculating what type of quantity run we feel comfortable executing.

Our main goal is to deliver a high quality, premium keyboard in a timely fashion with as few hiccups as possible (easier said than done). What this means is that the first run will likely remain small, and because of this and our choices to work with manufacturers who are known for their high-quality work, the prices will reflect that. We aren't building to meet a price point, but rather building what we feel will be an amazing keyboard and then pricing accordingly.

Once everything behind the scenes is worked out, prototypes are ordered and contracts are signed, I'll be posting the details well in advance. Expect at least a 4-6 week notice before the GB officially begins.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Sycomore on Wed, 10 July 2019, 03:38:52
Hey everyone,

Just want to touch on a few questions that keep coming up related to availability and price. I know everyone hates waiting. We are still working out the final details, comparing multiple manufacturers, and calculating what type of quantity run we feel comfortable executing.

Our main goal is to deliver a high quality, premium keyboard in a timely fashion with as few hiccups as possible (easier said than done). What this means is that the first run will likely remain small, and because of this and our choices to work with manufacturers who are known for their high-quality work, the prices will reflect that. We aren't building to meet a price point, but rather building what we feel will be an amazing keyboard and then pricing accordingly.

Once everything behind the scenes is worked out, prototypes are ordered and contracts are signed, I'll be posting the details well in advance. Expect at least a 4-6 week notice before the GB officially begins.

I appreciate that you're allowing a 4-6 weeks of notice, as it allows for saving and such. It's always a let down when a product goes from IC to GB without a period of notice.... Well i guess i'm now gonna start saving for one of those FE editions...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: MrMarcie on Wed, 10 July 2019, 03:52:46
What an amazing looking keyboard. Would love to have one but can't afford it.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 10 July 2019, 20:18:41
Quick update!

We'll have renders of the standard edition next week!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Owl on Wed, 10 July 2019, 22:25:01
The FE looks absolutely stunning. By far the classiest keyboard I have ever seen. I have been staring at the pictures literally every day for the last week. If I can afford it then I am absolutely in for this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: ghstgrl on Thu, 11 July 2019, 10:39:00
Been looking for something with this layout. I'm excited to see what it'll look like and may save up for one :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 11 July 2019, 11:10:26
Beautiful design, copper is such a great option.  The new Cafe set would work well.  I might jump in if the price is not eye popping bad.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: SmithersDotTV on Thu, 11 July 2019, 16:55:30
I'm really into this, will be following closely.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Egobean on Thu, 11 July 2019, 19:17:23
im ready for this too lol i cant wait!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: foo4542 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 02:58:43
Seriously elegant. Will get in on it if ISO is an option.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: courtcodes on Fri, 12 July 2019, 03:54:21
Too many beautiful clean 65%s coming out at the moment 😢
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: KMPLSV on Fri, 12 July 2019, 04:29:56
great looking setup. gonna hurt the wallet!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Datastream on Fri, 12 July 2019, 06:41:05
Looks really cool! Might buy it if it's under 500eu
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Bluestrike2 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 09:54:37
Absolutely gorgeous. So, much as I might fear the price, I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: sachin3767 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 10:53:12
Love this design and am on the hunt for my next 65.

But I need that ISO plate! come on guys, make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: frankh on Fri, 12 July 2019, 12:07:59
+1 for ISO support.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Butterface23 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 17:33:59
This is the definition of understated elegance. Appreciate the ISO support too. Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Matz_oO on Sat, 13 July 2019, 04:00:44
+1 for ISO
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: MxDuder on Sat, 13 July 2019, 04:49:47
This looks so clean. Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 13 July 2019, 06:30:47
ISO Plate Required.  I don't need this but I will buy if the plate is an option.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: cuoooo on Sat, 13 July 2019, 16:45:18
just made an account for this board, count me in  :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: GoofyBeanie on Sun, 14 July 2019, 03:12:07
joined up for this potential gb also just like cuoooo  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: döden on Sun, 14 July 2019, 03:26:26
Take my money!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: pej21 on Sun, 14 July 2019, 04:28:59
I'm all in!

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: itzDestin on Sun, 14 July 2019, 04:29:49
Totally down to wait for this board.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: abigtent on Sun, 14 July 2019, 15:14:32
Really looking forward to a GB, the design is amazingly clean.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: RawestTheGoat on Sun, 14 July 2019, 17:57:39
why do people feel the need to make a post saying reserved...makes me laugh honestly. This board is real nice though, hopefully I can cop one.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Xynerorias on Sun, 14 July 2019, 18:28:15
why do people feel the need to make a post saying reserved...makes me laugh honestly. This board is real nice though, hopefully I can cop one.
To have an original IC post, and another one concerning the updates, to things seperated, that way people who come here once in a while to see the advancement of the project can easily take a glance at it instead of searching through a mountain of renders in the OP

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: x0TheRussian0x on Tue, 16 July 2019, 07:50:01
Following  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: sozo on Tue, 16 July 2019, 14:51:13
I’m in! Now I just need to get pudding caps for this!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: gxtcha on Wed, 17 July 2019, 20:23:03
looks awesome, cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: snakeninja110 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 20:48:59
Hotswap PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: sever on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:08:44
I'm in! This keeb looks super-clean. Any chance there will also be a case foam included in addition to the plate one—or at least available from MKUltra as an extra?

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:20:01
I'm in! This keeb looks super-clean. Any chance there will also be a case foam included in addition to the plate one—or at least available from MKUltra as an extra?

Cheers,

There really isn’t any room for foam inside the case.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:20:30
Hotswap PCB?

Sorry, no hotswap PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Nakaji on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:18:52
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 18 July 2019, 04:34:42


I'm in! This keeb looks super-clean. Any chance there will also be a case foam included in addition to the plate one—or at least available from MKUltra as an extra?

Cheers,

There really isn’t any room for foam inside the case.

It says in the IC that there will be some provided by MKUltraCorp...

@sever you didn't read the IC but OP you're contradicting yourself?

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: sachin3767 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 04:38:29


I'm in! This keeb looks super-clean. Any chance there will also be a case foam included in addition to the plate one—or at least available from MKUltra as an extra?

Cheers,

There really isn’t any room for foam inside the case.

It says in the IC that there will be some provided by MKUltraCorp...

@sever you didn't read the IC but OP you're contradicting yourself?

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@sever means a foam between the case bottom and the PCB

@voxkey confirmed there isn't any room for it.

the IC suggests there is foam between the plate and the PCB
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Xynerorias on Thu, 18 July 2019, 04:42:45


I'm in! This keeb looks super-clean. Any chance there will also be a case foam included in addition to the plate one—or at least available from MKUltra as an extra?

Cheers,

There really isn’t any room for foam inside the case.

It says in the IC that there will be some provided by MKUltraCorp...

@sever you didn't read the IC but OP you're contradicting yourself?

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@sever means a foam between the case bottom and the PCB

@voxkey confirmed there isn't any room for it.

the IC suggests there is foam between the plate and the PCB
Oh you're right my bad, just woke up though, I've got an excuse.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 18 July 2019, 07:23:33
Yes, to clarify, there is room between the plate and PCB for some cut foam. There isn't really any space between the PCB and the base for more foam.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Kuuuro on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:02:00
+1
I want this.... I.. I.. I NEEEEED THIS.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: lamenthe on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:21:22
This and the TGR 910 are the best looking 65% boards I've seen so far. I hope the GB comes along sooner than later. I'd kill for an endgame 65.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: steezkeez on Fri, 19 July 2019, 12:40:28
I usually don't like 65s but this is making me re-consider. Super clean!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 19 July 2019, 14:15:18
Is there any possibility of ISO layout for this board?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 19 July 2019, 14:28:16
Is there any possibility of ISO layout for this board?

...

Whoa! Where’s the ISO support?

We will support ISO if enough interest is shown, but all of our plate files will be made open-source (including ISO) regardless. So even if you’re an avid ISO user and we don’t have an ISO plate, you’ll be able to get one made. We will also be optimizing our ISO plate for consistency, just like our other plates.

The PCB will support ISO out-of-the-box.

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 19 July 2019, 14:55:55
Eski: We will have ISO support for others, but not for you.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 19 July 2019, 16:21:05
Eski: We will have ISO support for others, but not for you.
I can live with this as long as I get my name engraved into the plate as promised  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Sat, 20 July 2019, 14:11:43
Hey everyone! HUGE UPDATES!

Prototypes have been ordered along with color and finish samples of every single option we are considering for BOTH versions of this board!

Renders of the SE have been posted! Thanks, Abec!

Essentially, every part of the original post has been refreshed so please have a look.

A changelog / updates section was added in the second post.
Additional renders have been added to the third post.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: SolidCactus on Sat, 20 July 2019, 14:29:33
Wow! The SE renders look fantastic.

Can't wait to see the prototypes
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Sat, 20 July 2019, 14:36:11
Will the Founder's Edition be reserved for a select few or will it be limited FCFS?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: stuey138 on Sat, 20 July 2019, 14:39:30
Will the Founder's Edition be reserved for a select few or will it be limited FCFS?
I'm pretty sure vox hates fcfs so it shouldn't be fcfs. Hoping for a raffle.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: orim23 on Sat, 20 July 2019, 14:44:17
no e-white for the SE?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: phlux on Sat, 20 July 2019, 15:12:17
Well, I'm sold. I'd be happy if I could get my hands on either of the founder's or standard editions.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: forelsket on Sat, 20 July 2019, 15:58:06
This is literally perfect <3 To the top of my wishlist it goes!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: voxkey on Sat, 20 July 2019, 18:31:12
no e-white for the SE?

Unfortunately, no. We won’t be overlapping colors between versions. So there won’t be white or black available for the SE.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: orim23 on Sun, 21 July 2019, 00:12:40
no e-white for the SE?

Unfortunately, no. We won’t be overlapping colors between versions. So there won’t be white or black available for the SE.
damn. so then please make enough FE Versions available then. white is pretty popular.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 21 July 2019, 08:27:11
I approve of this
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: orim23 on Sun, 21 July 2019, 13:31:25
"While this is a first in the keyboard community for us, we are proud of the team we’ve put together. Combined, we bring ten years mechanical engineering experience and five years of supply-chain management for small-batch, boutique products in other industries."


So. what kind of products in what industries did you have experience in? If I google you guys I can only find this thread.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 21 July 2019, 14:54:11
I have a mech e degree. I’ve worked at Emerson Process Management for 8ish year; then an explosive welding company for almost a year and now with Anton Paar. I have not “released” any products under my own name before.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: orim23 on Sun, 21 July 2019, 16:20:14
I have a mech e degree. I’ve worked at Emerson Process Management for 8ish year; then an explosive welding company for almost a year and now with Anton Paar. I have not “released” any products under my own name before.
Thanks for clarification! still want an FE!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: evorus5 on Sun, 21 July 2019, 23:03:35
Love the design and the whole idea.
Although, would it be possible to have a layout without the logo?
I don't think its a bad logo, i'm just a more simple type
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: sozo on Mon, 22 July 2019, 01:21:28
I want that FE version! I'll give you as many pennies as you need!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: lbaron on Mon, 22 July 2019, 20:54:56
Love the design and the whole idea.
Although, would it be possible to have a layout without the logo?
I don't think its a bad logo, i'm just a more simple type

I plan on making the badge drawing open source so in the future you could mill or 3d print your own design to go in the space.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 23 July 2019, 00:00:13
Love the design and the whole idea.
Although, would it be possible to have a layout without the logo?
I don't think its a bad logo, i'm just a more simple type

I plan on making the badge drawing open source so in the future you could mill or 3d print your own design to go in the space.

Okay that works too! Cant wait for more details on pricing. Think I might pick this one up!
... now to choose from these amazing colors..  :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: vheissu on Tue, 23 July 2019, 00:07:23
Quick question: As far I know the FE version will be a Raffle, I don't know how the raffle mode works here (I'm new on this type of GB) but under what I have investigated, the raffle places are determined according to the activity of the forum? Or how would this mechanism work? Definitely interested in the FE model, but I don't know if a place is secured with luck or mere activity.

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 23 July 2019, 00:32:52
Members enter their names. You assign each a number. Draw the names from a hat, actually, random number generator.com and then give them the spot.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 23 July 2019, 20:58:30
Love the design and the whole idea.
Although, would it be possible to have a layout without the logo?
I don't think its a bad logo, i'm just a more simple type

I plan on making the badge drawing open source so in the future you could mill or 3d print your own design to go in the space.

The hero we need, but don't deserve.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 23 July 2019, 21:31:44
Any chance for a WKL version? o.o
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: KTM25 on Tue, 23 July 2019, 21:32:27
So so so in.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Obe on Tue, 23 July 2019, 22:22:54
in
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: vision-quest on Tue, 23 July 2019, 22:30:32
I am SO in.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 24 July 2019, 12:32:02
Any chance for a WKL version? o.o

We might consider it for a future run, or possibly a 60%, but it won't happen for quite awhile, if at all.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Egobean on Wed, 24 July 2019, 15:36:53
im so ready for this GB to start on this.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: heyitsqi on Wed, 24 July 2019, 16:43:01
Waiting patiently and praying RNGesus is on my side for a FE.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: badboy731 on Wed, 24 July 2019, 17:54:08
Unless I missed it how many units will be available? Not the FE. I already know this about to be sold out before I blink
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Clo_0lD on Wed, 24 July 2019, 17:58:09
Unless I missed it how many units will be available? Not the FE. I already know this about to be sold out before I blink

I asked on discord when they first launched the IC and they said they were thinking 15-25 FE and 2-3x as many for the SE. May have changed from then though.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: anubizs on Wed, 24 July 2019, 20:39:49
So excited for this GB to start
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: synmuffin on Thu, 25 July 2019, 10:46:50
This looks so amazing!  :eek: I want it!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: suacide on Sun, 28 July 2019, 15:03:14
definitely down for at least an SE
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 28 July 2019, 15:19:36
Unless I missed it how many units will be available? Not the FE. I already know this about to be sold out before I blink

I asked on discord when they first launched the IC and they said they were thinking 15-25 FE and 2-3x as many for the SE. May have changed from then though.

That is a good amount of FE boards given the immense interest in them
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Egobean on Sun, 28 July 2019, 15:44:50
whats the difference between the fe and se?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 28 July 2019, 15:49:18
whats the difference between the fe and se?

Hi Egobean, the FE is made with a stainless steel top and solid copper base. The SE will be the same design but made with all aluminum + a big brass weight on the base to give it some extra weight. The brass weight is centered over the alpha so sound should be consistent.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: hypnocandy on Sun, 28 July 2019, 22:08:55
These are absolutely beautiful, but that Purple-Cran case is drool worthy.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Popopro on Mon, 29 July 2019, 11:18:31
Looks great, can't wait for the group buy!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: baye12928 on Tue, 30 July 2019, 11:02:16
just please let me know when GB will start, can not wait to buy!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Tue, 30 July 2019, 13:00:18
Protos have started!!

(https://i.imgur.com/rtORE4F.png)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: sapphyr on Tue, 30 July 2019, 13:25:31
Any chance for a WKL version? o.o

Was there ever a WKL version? I remember seeing one, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Tue, 30 July 2019, 14:29:10
Any chance for a WKL version? o.o

Was there ever a WKL version? I remember seeing one, but I could be mistaken.

Nope, we've never made a WKL version.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: bobgr8 on Tue, 30 July 2019, 16:20:08
Too many gaskets to choose from!
This, Polaris, NK65.

Please price this affordably!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 30 July 2019, 19:13:12
Too many gaskets to choose from!
This, Polaris, NK65.

Please price this affordably!


So true. May the best price win my money. Sub $300 for high-end custom boards has started becoming a thing! Yes!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: bobgr8 on Tue, 30 July 2019, 19:30:33
Too many gaskets to choose from!
This, Polaris, NK65.

Please price this affordably!


So true. May the best price win my money. Sub $300 for high-end custom boards has started becoming a thing! Yes!

Amen to that. As the community grows, I hope, we would see better quality at cheaper prices. If this is ~$280 after shipping, then instabuy, otherwise Polaris all the way with that flex PCBs and half plate
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: steezkeez on Wed, 31 July 2019, 00:41:14
There’s absolutely no way this is gonna be sub $300... I would be surprised if it was sub $400 to be honest.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Wed, 31 July 2019, 03:07:14
I hope it will be around 400, max.

I wouldn't spend more than 450 tho D:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: bobgr8 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:15:00
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Vireca on Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:43:10
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: zF4TE on Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:53:26
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Vireca on Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:59:37
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty
Its 60%, not 65% :P
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: steezkeez on Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:03:35
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty

Not trying to be rude but the Polaris is being run through KBDFans and is priced as such. This board is obviously more geared towards the luxury market and I'm sure will be priced accordingly so.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Bhk1004 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:25:20
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Vireca on Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:53:28
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.

Well, technically kbfans dont manu anything. They are just a shop that work as a proxy and shipping, so the designer dont run all the GB process itself. The problem with the switch openers as ai03 said was that the manu ****ed his measures, they didnt follow the designs exactly. He was really upset
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Bhk1004 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:07:38
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.

Well, technically kbfans dont manu anything. They are just a shop that work as a proxy and shipping, so the designer dont run all the GB process itself. The problem with the switch openers as ai03 said was that the manu ****ed his measures, they didnt follow the designs exactly. He was really upset

My understanding is kbdfan shops the manufacturing across his factory contacts. Hence to me its kbdfans Manu. Did ai03 shop and secure his own manufacturing? Asking as I dont know the full background on how the supplu chain was secured. I do know that there is not a high regard to the manufacturing that kbdfan works with.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:49:45
I think it's great that we all have so many options in basically every layout and at every price. There are quite a few projects I'm following closely and planning on joining, or have already joined, at both low price points and higher price points as well.

Specifically for this board, our main focus was on the design and engineering of the board and its feature set. Furthermore, we chose to go with suppliers who are more expensive, but offer consistency and high, repeatable quality.

What this means, unfortunately, is that the price will reflect this. While we will not release final pricing until everything is confirmed, I will say that the Iron165 SE will be priced around other high-end, premium offerings.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: steezkeez on Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:58:26
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: stuey138 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:58:50
I think it's great that we all have so many options in basically every layout and at every price. There are quite a few projects I'm following closely and planning on joining, or have already joined, at both low price points and higher price points as well.

Specifically for this board, our main focus was on the design and engineering of the board and its feature set. Furthermore, we chose to go with suppliers who are more expensive, but offer consistency and high, repeatable quality.

What this means, unfortunately, is that the price will reflect this. While we will not release final pricing until everything is confirmed, I will say that the Iron165 SE will be priced around other high-end, premium offerings.
My piggy bank is ready to be shattered to buy the iron, can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: xantiema on Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:13:25
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.

That is absolutely overpriced, for what it is
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:37:11
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.
They are only doing 20 kits also, so high price is expected

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:42:48
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.

That is absolutely overpriced, for what it is
(gasket) isolation mount like keycult, i guess


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: bobgr8 on Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:24:33
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Clo_0lD on Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:42:29
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.

I think many would agree that most of the stuff that Kbdfans makes are good for the price, but if you want better anodization, machining, materials, etc. you're going to have to pay more for those things. Sure, not everything that is priced high is necessarily better quality, but in order to get better quality you will have to pay more usually.

I personally love my Acrylic Tofu, but I'm in on this because I love the design and I want a more premium option that will hopefully deliver on its promises of being a great quality product.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:43:41
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.
There's a place for every product in this community.

While KBDFans produce brilliant products, their anode and finishing is what you expect to get at that price. It's a level or two below the Keycults/RAMA/TGRs. You need to see what keycult refer to as B stock as that stuff will sell as A+ stock in a lot of KBDfans' GBs. So the price you pay for luxury products is the impeccable QC and finish quality.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 31 July 2019, 18:48:32
Yup, buy what you want, and buy what you can afford

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: bobgr8 on Thu, 01 August 2019, 00:53:31
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode

Hence. Waiting for keycult 65
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: baye12928 on Thu, 01 August 2019, 02:08:00
$400 is also acceptable.....can not wait to buy
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 01 August 2019, 03:26:34
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:09:26
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:26:28
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:35:24
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:

Absolutely! We're really curious as well. We've prototyped every option and plan to test everything out.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:46:02
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:

Absolutely! We're really curious as well. We've prototyped every option and plan to test everything out.

Ayyy, sound great! Can't wait to see the updates on prototypes   :p
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: kyyyten on Thu, 01 August 2019, 17:25:22
Very interested in a ISO board! :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
Post by: narunekogi on Sun, 04 August 2019, 05:52:03
Yes. Do want.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: voxkey on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:17:27
Whoops, fixing
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: ninjacore on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:28:02
Whoops, fixing

Shipping separate? $30-50?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: jimboytacos on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:30:59
$885 and $445. Wow. :(

I'm too broke to afford that. I'll see (IC) myself out.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:33:27
Whoops, fixing

Shipping separate? $30-50?

Yes, shipping will be separate and depend on where you live.  Shipping from Cannon Keys will mean that NE will be cheaper than say CA.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: jimboytacos on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:53:48
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:55:24
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?

When the group buy launches we will do the raffle for the FE most likely the day before the SE goes on sale.  So for those that miss the FE they can still have option to try for the SE.  This will most likely happen in September.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Clo_0lD on Sun, 04 August 2019, 22:35:33
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?

When the group buy launches we will do the raffle for the FE most likely the day before the SE goes on sale.  So for those that miss the FE they can still have option to try for the SE.  This will most likely happen in September.

Any idea on how long the FE raffle window will be open for? For example, will it be like keycults 10 min windows or something much longer?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 04 August 2019, 22:48:08
We will probably do a similar approach to account help mitigate alt accounts entering multiple times.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: bthezebra on Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:00:19
NE luck avail
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: lamenthe on Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:03:07
Oh hell yes
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: baye12928 on Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:51:16
will Asian vendor be arranged? such as Z-frontier :))
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: sozo on Mon, 05 August 2019, 01:27:02
Nice! I'll start saving up for that FE, as a birthday gift to myself!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:34:18
900 and 450 wow. I guess the Vendor wanted a hefty payday too
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:41:55
900 and 450 wow. I guess the Vendor wanted a hefty payday too
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:45:39
Sometimes I look at expensive kits like Wilba's Thermal (which is still "just" $360 BTW) or the Keycult and think: "Ouch my wallet but yeah I can see why. Fair enough." (After-market price notwithstanding).

This? I dunno. Compared to contemporary keyboard kits, I'm yet able to see why this one is way over $400 yet.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:03:14
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:10:53
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.

Exactly. The FE has a representing price for the materials chosen alongside the scarcity, not so much with the SE.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: aslejoh on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:15:10
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.

Exactly. The FE has a representing price for the materials chosen alongside the scarcity, not so much with the SE.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/13Yjln8dW18nEA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:45:47
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: keyberzerker on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:58:45
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: harlekein on Mon, 05 August 2019, 07:30:19
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls

11% before taxes is nothing to scoff at.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Mon, 05 August 2019, 07:58:03
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls

11% before taxes is nothing to scoff at.
Here it is even like 20%
~400e * 0.2 = ~80e so yes it does pay up a bit. also that the shipping costs will be higher from the us.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:02:34

Here it is even like 20%
~400e * 0.2 = ~80e so yes it does pay up a bit. also that the shipping costs will be higher from the us.

25% of full price (shipping included) + 27$ fee here. Seems to vary a ton across europe
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Surefoot on Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:16:15
25% of full price (shipping included) + 27$ fee here. Seems to vary a ton across europe
Same here. I believe it's all of EU countries (same customs, same import taxes).
On the FE we are talking about almost $250 in taxes added on top, and that's not counting the shipping (the import taxes also apply to shipping costs, yes...)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:37:57
Indeed. 450$ pricetag pre shipping would be more easily swallowed if it had e-white at the minimum
Title: Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 05 August 2019, 09:20:56
Extremely exciting project, beautifully designed and hopefully all that excitement and desire remains once the estimated price is announced (unlike a couple other similar designs).

(https://i.gyazo.com/bc8f2b5c6df24f24155876200afbda65.png)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 05 August 2019, 09:34:05
"Extremely exciting project, beautifully designed and hopefully all that excitement and desire remains once the estimated price is announced (unlike a couple other similar designs)."

Bye.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 August 2019, 17:52:29
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 05 August 2019, 17:57:36
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

you're alive?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:00:00
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

you're alive?

i broke my jaw in june and i've been employed full time

also **** like this gets me righteously salty
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:34:13
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
Ooof

Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:00:17
Bye.

I'm sorry I upset you in the Black Lotus thread.

i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

Not sure about your benevolent use of "we" there but this hobby is like Fortnite skins and other microtransactions praying on addictive personalities so uh

Never?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:05:30
not be able for FE but will try with SE,  :p  :p
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:08:20
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
Ah didn't work for Kepler, let me try this in the iron thread.

FE is $885, not the standard edition.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: nasp on Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:16:33
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

These guys might be new, but due to their professional jobs they are not lacking skill or expertise when it comes to engineering
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 August 2019, 20:35:43
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 05 August 2019, 21:55:07
Thanks for the vote of confidence, everyone. We are very passionate about this project and doing our best to make sure this is a success.

If anyone has questions, we're pretty much an open book. Feel free to reach out here or on Discord and ask either of us anything.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:06:17
Can't wait for the final decision on colors.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:08:52
Can't wait for the final decision on colors.

We should have a form up next week polling for preferred colors :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Aerizu on Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:38:11
Would love an FE but in 60% layout. Maybe someday!  ;)
GLWS, definitely an interesting board you got here.
Title: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 05 August 2019, 23:28:30
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: harlekein on Tue, 06 August 2019, 03:57:16
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 06 August 2019, 06:18:56
I really wanted to get in on the FE edition but I have to agree that import taxes and shipping would push it over $1200.  It is getting just too pricey.  I may need to rethink this one.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:39:19
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:43:38
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

There's no way I can ever see this going wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:49:04
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.

They're probably using a known good factory, which is always worth using over a new factory with no keyboard experience. Yes, it'll be more expensive, but absolutely worth it.

Polaris is probably priced @ 300 units, with a lower quality factory too. It's not really a fair comparison.

imo a better comparison would be to the Jane V2 CE, $550 @ 100 units. And looking at the size & quantity of the components, IRON165 is priced very fairly.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: lewisflude on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:52:07
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

To be fair, they don't have to do anything. If you've got some critical feedback on what they could've done differently, I'm sure that would be useful to hear. For quite a few people, they do understand why the board costs what it does and they are prepared to pay the price.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:52:14
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.
Prototypes are still being produced. So they'll do a video when it comes out. The GB won't begin until that happens. So maybe, you could just.... wait?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:08:00
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.

450 is a normal price tho

They're using the same factory that everyone else uses
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: harlekein on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:18:15
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

No worries. I'm not a collector. I keep two or three keyboards. I sell one if I get a new one.

Seems like I hit a nerve though.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: kgorin on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:44:55
Now I really want to hear what they've been saying in private, even though I don't have interest in buying this board nor do I think they can't put whatever price they want on it.

Good story helps to sell expensive product though, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: mrkantz on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:51:28
Do the people complaining about the price think this board won't sellout quickly?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Hedgey on Tue, 06 August 2019, 10:58:34
Had a really good conversation with Ibaron yesterday on discord.  Everything makes sense to me now based on what he told me directly.

Hope this GB goes smoothly and I can’t wait to see other projects they come out with down the road.

-Hedgey
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:02:16
Do the people complaining about the price think this board won't sellout quickly?

Absolutely not. If anyone expects a board like this to not sell out instantly in this day and age regardless of every single other factor they're delusional.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:53:11
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: DrSteveBrule on Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:47:23
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.

+1

Also had a great conversation with them when I met them at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:57:07
Now I really want to hear what they've been saying in private, even though I don't have interest in buying this board nor do I think they can't put whatever price they want on it.

Good story helps to sell expensive product though, that's for damn sure.

Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:03:32
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.

+1

Also had a great conversation with them when I met them at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

You win :laughing-crying:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: kgorin on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:43:25
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: iaman on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:47:26
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
I'm pretty sure it's typhon organs
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: phunktional on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:48:57
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
Stainless steel and copper.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:49:19
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
Copper and stainless steel. He's talking about the FE version.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:33:52
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Egobean on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:54:23
wait so what is the expected price? and when is the gb going to start?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: sapphyr on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:55:32
wait so what is the expected price? and when is the gb going to start?

SE - ~445
FE - 845

Late september/early october. More details in the first, second and third posts.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:24:07
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
Title: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:30:13
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:33:20
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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no, it costs an amount of money greater than zero therefore i cannot afford it
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:36:01
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew0eqk3/) people (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm5mn0/iron165_pricing_and_vendor_announcement/ew19u61/) so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJLZ5QFRTg) to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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no, it costs an amount of money greater than zero therefore i cannot afford it
people buy what they want, :))), hope i can snap one when the GB open


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:15:42
Will there be an option to add foam (between PCB and plate) in the SE version?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
Post by: RivieraS on Sat, 10 August 2019, 01:10:25
Cant wait
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 11 August 2019, 14:03:25
Quick update:

Vendors and Quantities

Standard Edition

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle all sales of the Iron165 SE.

What this hopefully means, and why we're so excited to work with these amazing stores, is that we should be able to offer not only a smoother buying experience, but also a higher quantity of boards than we initially thought possible.

USA - CannonKeys - Up to 100 boards
EU - MyKeyboard - Up to 50 boards
AP - ILUMKB - Up to 50 boards
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 11 August 2019, 14:05:57
Quick update:

Vendors and Quantities

Standard Edition

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle all sales of the Iron165 SE.

What this hopefully means, and why we're so excited to work with these amazing stores, is that we should be able to offer not only a smoother buying experience, but also a higher quantity of boards than we initially thought possible.

USA - CannonKeys - Up to 100 boards
EU - MyKeyboard - Up to 50 boards
AP - ILUMKB - Up to 50 boards

What is the price in the EU vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 11 August 2019, 14:36:20
It’ll be 480€ including VAT. Will update post.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 11 August 2019, 15:11:26
And what about the FE edition?

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 11 August 2019, 15:15:35
And what about the FE edition?

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We will be personally handling the sales of FE so they will all be shipped out of the US.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 11 August 2019, 15:44:53
And what about the FE edition?

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We will be personally handling the sales of FE so they will all be shipped out of the US.
Thanks. Will you provide the date of the gb for the FE? On discord or here?

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Sun, 11 August 2019, 16:10:19
And what about the FE edition?

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We will be personally handling the sales of FE so they will all be shipped out of the US.
Thanks. Will you provide the date of the gb for the FE? On discord or here?

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We'll be providing the dates on both Discord and here on Geekhack.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: Egobean on Sun, 11 August 2019, 21:24:23
when is the gb going to start for this board? and i how much is the se version?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Sun, 11 August 2019, 21:33:59
when is the gb going to start for this board? and i how much is the se version?

All the information is in the first post  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: BrainBunker on Mon, 12 August 2019, 02:12:11
The Iron165 FE will be limited to 25 total serialized units, never to be made again. We will be handling the group buy for these directly. There will be a public raffle for 10 total group buy spots.

So I'm not sure if I missed the information anywhere else, but is this implying that 15 FE spots are a private group buy? Where are the additional 15 going?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: stuey138 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 02:16:37



So I'm not sure if I missed the information anywhere else, but is this implying that 15 FE spots are a private group buy? Where are the additional 15 going?

The other 15 are going to those who pledged support to the iron165 very early on.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: BrainBunker on Mon, 12 August 2019, 02:22:42



So I'm not sure if I missed the information anywhere else, but is this implying that 15 FE spots are a private group buy? Where are the additional 15 going?

The other 15 are going to those who pledged support to the iron165 very early on.

Ah, some OG backers. Well deserved, since they made the project possible. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: sozo on Mon, 12 August 2019, 13:02:32
I hope I can get my hands on the FE!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: Hermanchan93 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 06:40:31
Quick update:

Vendors and Quantities

Standard Edition

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle all sales of the Iron165 SE.

What this hopefully means, and why we're so excited to work with these amazing stores, is that we should be able to offer not only a smoother buying experience, but also a higher quantity of boards than we initially thought possible.

USA - CannonKeys - Up to 100 boards
EU - MyKeyboard - Up to 50 boards
AP - ILUMKB - Up to 50 boards

Am I dreaming? Pinch me.

Guess I am in for the SE in EU  :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 12:53:48
TBH most would consider 445usd a decent price for many of the more reputable studios. Maybe we should give this studio the same benefit of the doubt. They have been honest to us so far. Btw does anyone know if cannonkeys ships to Canada? If not I'll be heartbroken and go cry in a corner for a month or so.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: bricra1983 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 14:50:22
HOLY F-ING SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
How have I missed this?
In for a founders PLEASE.
Purple over copper would be so tasty!
I'm new but I hope I can snag one of these.  One of the best looking boards I've seen. :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:11:03
Does anyone know if the remaining 10 FE spots are going to be on a shopify-based website?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: lolafineday on Thu, 15 August 2019, 16:28:37
HOLY F-ING SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
How have I missed this?
In for a founders PLEASE.
Purple over copper would be so tasty!
I'm new but I hope I can snag one of these.  One of the best looking boards I've seen.
Your new and already going for a $900+ board, wow baller

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 15 August 2019, 16:30:20
HOLY F-ING SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
How have I missed this?
In for a founders PLEASE.
Purple over copper would be so tasty!
I'm new but I hope I can snag one of these.  One of the best looking boards I've seen.
Your new and already going for a $900+ board, wow baller

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Go big or go home, amarite?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: MatthewPham on Thu, 15 August 2019, 18:56:40
I guess cannon keys is also the vendor for Canada?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: breakbeatzors on Thu, 15 August 2019, 21:45:38
HOLY F-ING SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
How have I missed this?
In for a founders PLEASE.
Purple over copper would be so tasty!
I'm new but I hope I can snag one of these.  One of the best looking boards I've seen.
Your new and already going for a $900+ board, wow baller

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I've thought about this. Life is short - if you're jumping in do it head first, get something dope and worst case you can resell after a bit.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: bricra1983 on Fri, 16 August 2019, 01:15:37
Yeah that's the thing, I'm either gonna buy ten boards getting to the one thing I really want.  Or could just cut out the middle and get the one nice one. 
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: stuey138 on Fri, 16 August 2019, 01:39:29
Yeah that's the thing, I'm either gonna buy ten boards getting to the one thing I really want.  Or could just cut out the middle and get the one nice one.
You think you're only going to get one nice one. I'm waiting on 3 boards from gb's and yet I still want an FE and an SE iron if I can manage to get both. FE looks amazing but I don't want to miss the possible plum SE.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Fri, 16 August 2019, 03:07:51
Lol I know people are going to say endgame doesn't exist, but if the navy color with silver bottom render does get made I think that will be my endgame after 3 boards. voxkey pls
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: CDKing on Sat, 17 August 2019, 14:18:47
Mother of god. That founder's edition is proof to me there is an endgame. All that copper has me drooling...
I would happily shill out $885. No regrets.

Take. My. Money. Please.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 03:59:11
ikr I want the founders edition too but my wallet is already crying ;-;

edit: does anyone know what keycaps were being used for the navy standard edition render?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: Clo_0lD on Sun, 18 August 2019, 12:02:23
ikr I want the founders edition too but my wallet is already crying ;-;

edit: does anyone know what keycaps were being used for the navy standard edition render?

GMK Mizu
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Sun, 18 August 2019, 12:25:31
ikr I want the founders edition too but my wallet is already crying ;-;

edit: does anyone know what keycaps were being used for the navy standard edition render?

GMK Mizu

Thank you for that. I wonder how gmk voyage would look in that case...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:45:18
Does anyone know if the remaining 10 FE spots are going to be on a shopify-based website?

The winners of the FE raffle will just be invoiced via Paypal. We are handling sales of the FE directly.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:46:06
I guess cannon keys is also the vendor for Canada?

I would assume Canadian buyers just go through our North America proxy, which is CannonKeys.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:51:45
Hey everyone!

The time has come to vote on SE colors! We will HEAVILY consider community feedback when choosing the final colors, so please go vote  :thumb:

Iron165 SE Color Poll, go vote! (https://forms.gle/Vz8TRRbCEcma4SDD8)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 22:03:15
NAVY WITH SILVER ALL THE WAY! I hope the silver accents will be mirror finished but that's just my inner greed talking. XD
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: mikenogo on Mon, 19 August 2019, 23:08:05
Navy, 100%. You usually don't see it in a lot of keyboards out now and it will be quite unique. Not to mention how good it will look.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 20 August 2019, 03:57:31
Navy, 100%. You usually don't see it in a lot of keyboards out now and it will be quite unique. Not to mention how good it will look.
Not sure what you mean, Navy is incredibly common - it's essentially a standard offering for boards now. Not that it won't look good, but it's hardly unique.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Lil on Tue, 20 August 2019, 05:48:48
Navy, 100%. You usually don't see it in a lot of keyboards out now and it will be quite unique. Not to mention how good it will look.
Not sure what you mean, Navy is incredibly common - it's essentially a standard offering for boards now. Not that it won't look good, but it's hardly unique.
Plum it up

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Tue, 20 August 2019, 07:57:46
(https://i.imgur.com/TGSLqK7.png)

Day 1 results so far! Very impressive turnout! Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 20 August 2019, 08:04:17
Wow, those are damn even distributions for the navy, plum, and gray colors. How many colors are you choosing total?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Tue, 20 August 2019, 08:19:54
Wow, those are damn even distributions for the navy, plum, and gray colors. How many colors are you choosing total?

Yes, we were't expecting colors to break down so evenly. I'm taking this as a good sign and hoping this means that we chose a good set of colors to present that most people would be happy with.

The plan is to offer two SE colors options for the first round.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: mikenogo on Tue, 20 August 2019, 09:28:59
Navy, 100%. You usually don't see it in a lot of keyboards out now and it will be quite unique. Not to mention how good it will look.
Not sure what you mean, Navy is incredibly common - it's essentially a standard offering for boards now. Not that it won't look good, but it's hardly unique.

Maybe I should have been more specific, but that very dark shade of blue, like keycult's no1r1. I've seen a lot of "navy" being offered on other gb, but a lot of them irl ended up being a much lighter shade of blue than expected. I've been here following enough boards to notice the difference imo.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 20 August 2019, 10:27:57
Voted Plum and Navy, but I really wish there was more contrast between plum and it's accent color (black).  It goes well with GMK First Love (or whichever forthcoming purple set is rendered on it), but I'm wondering what it will look like w others.  Was a light accent color (for "badge" and weight) considered?  Plum case + lavender accent or something like that?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: ghstgrl on Tue, 20 August 2019, 10:39:14
Voted for navy and that grey-blue (I have a weakness for that color). Already trying to think of what sets will look nice for both... wondering if that MT3 Serika would work but I'm not sure I like how that profile will look on these.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Dongulator on Tue, 20 August 2019, 10:47:24
voted.. looking forward to this board. Also, that grey-blue :-*
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 20 August 2019, 11:09:23
Please consider doing a shiny badge for your logo even in the SE editions. I think it is what makes the FE pop so much and that bit of shine along with the more matte anodization would tie everything together really nicely.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: DuellM on Tue, 20 August 2019, 12:47:48
Anyone know what keyset is used in the second SE Renders? I really like the purple and black that it uses.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 20 August 2019, 15:21:54
Anyone know what keyset is used in the second SE Renders? I really like the purple and black that it uses.

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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84756.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100436.0

One of those maybe?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: DuellM on Tue, 20 August 2019, 16:21:33
Okay I’ll check those out Thanks


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 02:44:34
Just out of curiosity, will there be prototypes to purchase? I'm so torn between buying this board and another. Its killing me.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Simplixity on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:21:03
Do u have the dimensions of this board?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 06:49:29
I'm also starting to wonder if the reason why the blue grey wasn't a first choice for many people is because there were no renders for it. I also think the reason why it is second choice for more people is because the people who wanted navy and grey defaulted the blue-grey because it is the color most similar to their first choices. Thats why I chose blue-grey for second anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Yehuo. on Fri, 23 August 2019, 19:29:05
I saw the FE version, I think I am in love!!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: lbaron on Fri, 23 August 2019, 19:32:36
Hi All, yes proto types have been ordered about a month ago.  They are getting close to finishing.  As for dimensions they are as follows: 12.58IN x 4.36IN.   Front height is 0.63IN.  Rear height is 1.18IN

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: leovu on Fri, 23 August 2019, 21:36:15
Hot damn! Very interested
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (More Vendors Announced)
Post by: leexy on Fri, 23 August 2019, 23:37:58
Quick update:

Vendors and Quantities

Standard Edition

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle all sales of the Iron165 SE.

What this hopefully means, and why we're so excited to work with these amazing stores, is that we should be able to offer not only a smoother buying experience, but also a higher quantity of boards than we initially thought possible.

USA - CannonKeys - Up to 100 boards
EU - MyKeyboard - Up to 50 boards
AP - ILUMKB - Up to 50 boards

price in SGD from ILUMKB?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: modeseven on Sat, 24 August 2019, 19:35:57
Wow. Interested. Down the rabbit hole...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:39:12
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to give a quick update regarding colors since there is some misinformation floating around and I've been asked many questions about this.

*** COLORS ARE NOT FINALIZED YET ***

The poll ONLY served as a way to collect information about the communities' preferences. While it will weigh heavily into our decision making, it is not the only source of feedback we've collected. We'll be making a final decision on colors once we've seen the prototypes and color samples.

More news on colors very, very soon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:49:18
*praying for navy* btw any news on pricing? The post seems to show that the FE pricing is finalized but it implies the SE is not. Will it stay at 445 or are there hopes for a lower price/ price bracket?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 29 August 2019, 12:54:41
*praying for navy* btw any news on pricing? The post seems to show that the FE pricing is finalized but it implies the SE is not. Will it stay at 445 or are there hopes for a lower price/ price bracket?

We're hoping for this price, but until every single cost is realized, we can't say for certain. Quite a lot goes into making a keyboard that most people aren't aware of. Beyond the obvious, which is the manufacturing of the board and pcb, there are also misc costs like hardware, packaging, etc. Extras also have to be ordered to make sure we can fill every order with A-stock product. Then there's payment processing fees, freight, taxes, etc.

That's not to say we pulled these prices out of thin air either. They are based on proposed costs and expectations from every part of the supply chain. We just need to finalize the last of those details and lock in prices. The biggest part (manufacturing) has already been worked out, just the small stuff is left.

We're also keeping a close eye on the proposed tariffs as well.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:41:57
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

edit: Ty phylux for pointing that out. However, as there was nothing like a list of pcbs that would fit this board, I was just wondering how the designers would fullfill this goal.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: phlux on Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:51:15
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

Per the OP on replaceable parts:

What parts will be user-replaceable?

Our hope is that everything, except the case itself will be user-replaceable in some form or fashion. One of our main goals when designing this board was to make absolutely sure that no IRON165 will ever become a glorified paperweight.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: stuey138 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 15:58:41
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

edit: Ty phylux for pointing that out. However, as there was nothing like a list of pcbs that would fit this board, I was just wondering how the designers would fullfill this goal.
The user replaceable aspect probably means that they'll offer the ability to purchase multiple pcbs and plates in the event that you brick a pcb, not that you'll be able to use commonly available ones. It's also possible that they'll use an interchangeable pcb design between the iron165 and 265 and so on later down the line such as how the Rama m6 has maintained the same pcb dimensions throughout its various renditions
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 August 2019, 16:33:50
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

edit: Ty phylux for pointing that out. However, as there was nothing like a list of pcbs that would fit this board, I was just wondering how the designers would fullfill this goal.

all mechanical keyboard are antighosting, it's the nature of the tech
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 17:23:06
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

edit: Ty phylux for pointing that out. However, as there was nothing like a list of pcbs that would fit this board, I was just wondering how the designers would fullfill this goal.

all mechanical keyboard are antighosting, it's the nature of the tech

So it has some about of x-key rollover built in? Sorry for nub questions I don't know much about pcb design.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 August 2019, 17:24:44
That must be really rough, wish you guys luck on that. Btw, two questions about the pcb: Does it support antighosting? Are there any widely available pcbs that fit the keyboard? I'm always worried with high end custom keyboards that I'll spill water on it and the keyboard just becomes a paperweight.

edit: Ty phylux for pointing that out. However, as there was nothing like a list of pcbs that would fit this board, I was just wondering how the designers would fullfill this goal.

all mechanical keyboard are antighosting, it's the nature of the tech

So it has some about of x-key rollover built in? Sorry for nub questions I don't know much about pcb design.

KRO is different than ghosting

most boards are 6KRO
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:16:03
Prototypes are here!!!! Pics in the first post!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:28:49
Damn! Hard to believe those are photos and not more renders. Looks amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: PotatoTM on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:32:54
Wow plum ano turned out way nicer than I imagined, and copper less pink/shiny!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Lil on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:36:45
Sick, extremely tempted

Edit: Ne typing test avail?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:42:51
Damn. The renders weren't lying! I'm guessing the finish on the copper is not the finish you will be going for in the final models? If you ever want to sell the FE prototype for a reasonable price let me know.

edit: +1 request for typing test too please!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:49:03
Damn. The renders weren't lying! I'm guessing the finish on the copper is not the finish you will be going for in the final models? If you ever want to sell the FE prototype for a reasonable price let me know.

edit: +1 request for typing test too please!

The finish on the prototypes is what we are going with. We initially wanted polished copper, but it was far too expensive and risky to pull off.

Typing tests to come after the holiday!!! :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: DuellM on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:54:13
Damn Those finishes are smooth  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: steezkeez on Fri, 30 August 2019, 18:23:36
I prefer the flat/matte finish, gonna actually enter the raffle now largely because of that reason.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: BrainBunker on Fri, 30 August 2019, 19:43:12
I know these are protos, so I understand they won't be perfect, but I wanted to at least ask what your thoughts are on the small defects on the FE. I noticed the gaps around the copper base plate aren't very uniform, and the front edge seems to sit lower than the top case. Are these things that are likely to be fixed before the final product? I'll probably try for an FE regardless (it looks sexy AF and I'm a huge sucker for copper), but wanted to ask. Image shows the areas in question.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 30 August 2019, 19:56:26
I know these are protos, so I understand they won't be perfect, but I wanted to at least ask what your thoughts are on the small defects on the FE. I noticed the gaps around the copper base plate aren't very uniform, and the front edge seems to sit lower than the top case. Are these things that are likely to be fixed before the final product? I'll probably try for an FE regardless (it looks sexy AF and I'm a huge sucker for copper), but wanted to ask. Image shows the areas in question.

(Attachment Link)

Good eye there. The top and bottom aren’t actually screwed together and gaskets aren’t installed. We just wanted to get pics up as fast as possible.

We’ll be going over everything very, very closely and make adjustments where necessary. In fact, we’ve already made two adjustments/tweaks. We want these to be perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 30 August 2019, 20:30:53
Really dig that purple SE. Please use this color  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Fri, 30 August 2019, 21:10:46
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 August 2019, 21:25:04
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.

ewhite just looks like that, most boards i've seen with it aren't a perfect white, and tend to be more grey

and millmax sockets suck just solder em
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: BrainBunker on Fri, 30 August 2019, 21:27:36
I know these are protos, so I understand they won't be perfect, but I wanted to at least ask what your thoughts are on the small defects on the FE. I noticed the gaps around the copper base plate aren't very uniform, and the front edge seems to sit lower than the top case. Are these things that are likely to be fixed before the final product? I'll probably try for an FE regardless (it looks sexy AF and I'm a huge sucker for copper), but wanted to ask. Image shows the areas in question.

(Attachment Link)

Good eye there. The top and bottom aren’t actually screwed together and gaskets aren’t installed. We just wanted to get pics up as fast as possible.

We’ll be going over everything very, very closely and make adjustments where necessary. In fact, we’ve already made two adjustments/tweaks. We want these to be perfect.

Oh I see, glad to hear you're aiming for perfect :) I'm excited for the GB to start!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Fri, 30 August 2019, 21:37:09
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.

ewhite just looks like that, most boards i've seen with it aren't a perfect white, and tend to be more grey

and millmax sockets suck just solder em

Can you tell me why they suck? I personally don't really see the downside to adding them. Also soldering is a pain, why bother when you don't have to? Especially for a board this expensive I want to be able to experience more than one kind of switch on it in the long run, as well as relube switches in the coming years. Unsoldering is super tedious if you don't have a pump.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: jimboytacos on Fri, 30 August 2019, 22:55:35
Damn. The renders weren't lying! I'm guessing the finish on the copper is not the finish you will be going for in the final models? If you ever want to sell the FE prototype for a reasonable price let me know.

edit: +1 request for typing test too please!

The finish on the prototypes is what we are going with. We initially wanted polished copper, but it was far too expensive and risky to pull off.

Typing tests to come after the holiday!!! :)

 It gonna lie, that flat proto color of iron isn't very appealing. It's almost like a lipstick Maybelline.
But I'll wait to see what the finished product looks like. Best wishes!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: CDKing on Fri, 30 August 2019, 23:26:33
Have you guys considered doing polished copper for the badge at least? Just seeing as it's a much smaller part.
Or do you think that would make the board look less cohesive?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 00:07:46
Damn. The renders weren't lying! I'm guessing the finish on the copper is not the finish you will be going for in the final models? If you ever want to sell the FE prototype for a reasonable price let me know.

edit: +1 request for typing test too please!

The finish on the prototypes is what we are going with. We initially wanted polished copper, but it was far too expensive and risky to pull off.

Typing tests to come after the holiday!!! :)

 It gonna lie, that flat proto color of iron isn't very appealing. It's almost like a lipstick Maybelline.
But I'll wait to see what the finished product looks like. Best wishes!

Meh I understand where you are coming from, and I mostly agree that the polished finish in the renders look better. However, it shouldn't be that hard to polish it yourself. Just an hour with some polishing cream, and even faster with a polishing belt and it should look pretty good. Just remember to clear coat it after or it will oxidize again. Even if I don't win the raffle, who am I kidding I won't win the raffle, I think I'll do that with the brass weight anyway.

Whatever the case, I think there is something more mature about the more muted appearance of this copper finish. I think people are just dissapointed that the prototype doesn't match the amazing renders exactly.

edit: btw do you know when the estimated delivery date is? I need to know when so I know what vendor to buy from.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 August 2019, 06:28:39
(https://i.imgur.com/Nn9iQXY.jpg)

hot as ****.
How many FE avail?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: eskimojo on Sat, 31 August 2019, 06:39:16
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Nn9iQXY.jpg)


hot as ****.
How many FE avail?
Founder's Edition

The Iron165 FE will be limited to 25 total serialized units, never to be made again. We will be handling the group buy for these directly. There will be a public raffle for 10 total group buy spots.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: CDKing on Sat, 31 August 2019, 08:32:47


 Meh I understand where you are coming from, and I mostly agree that the polished finish in the renders look better. However, it shouldn't be that hard to polish it yourself. Just an hour with some polishing cream, and even faster with a polishing belt and it should look pretty good. Just remember to clear coat it after or it will oxidize again. Even if I don't win the raffle, who am I kidding I won't win the raffle, I think I'll do that with the brass weight anyway.

Whatever the case, I think there is something more mature about the more muted appearance of this copper finish. I think people are just dissapointed that the prototype doesn't match the amazing renders exactly.

edit: btw do you know when the estimated delivery date is? I need to know when so I know what vendor to buy from.

Was actually considering doing exactly that, assuming I can get in on the raffle.

Any recommendations for a good clear coat product? lol
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 09:04:37


 Meh I understand where you are coming from, and I mostly agree that the polished finish in the renders look better. However, it shouldn't be that hard to polish it yourself. Just an hour with some polishing cream, and even faster with a polishing belt and it should look pretty good. Just remember to clear coat it after or it will oxidize again. Even if I don't win the raffle, who am I kidding I won't win the raffle, I think I'll do that with the brass weight anyway.

Whatever the case, I think there is something more mature about the more muted appearance of this copper finish. I think people are just dissapointed that the prototype doesn't match the amazing renders exactly.

edit: btw do you know when the estimated delivery date is? I need to know when so I know what vendor to buy from.

Was actually considering doing exactly that, assuming I can get in on the raffle.

Any recommendations for a good clear coat product? lol

Protectaclear seems not bad if a bit pricy, but I can't really say since I haven't used it myself. Rustoleum clear coats are usually my go to and its pretty cost effective.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 August 2019, 10:52:24
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.

ewhite just looks like that, most boards i've seen with it aren't a perfect white, and tend to be more grey

and millmax sockets suck just solder em

Can you tell me why they suck? I personally don't really see the downside to adding them. Also soldering is a pain, why bother when you don't have to? Especially for a board this expensive I want to be able to experience more than one kind of switch on it in the long run, as well as relube switches in the coming years. Unsoldering is super tedious if you don't have a pump.

soldering is piss easy, mill max sockets are a pain if you install them incorrectly, and they have a ridiculously short wear life so you can't change them out ad infinitum, whereas with soldering it's just a skill activity

i have a tremor and i've soldered plenty of boards and they've all turned out fine

if you're really worried about it just pay someone else to do it
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:16:03
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.

ewhite just looks like that, most boards i've seen with it aren't a perfect white, and tend to be more grey

and millmax sockets suck just solder em

Can you tell me why they suck? I personally don't really see the downside to adding them. Also soldering is a pain, why bother when you don't have to? Especially for a board this expensive I want to be able to experience more than one kind of switch on it in the long run, as well as relube switches in the coming years. Unsoldering is super tedious if you don't have a pump.

soldering is piss easy, mill max sockets are a pain if you install them incorrectly, and they have a ridiculously short wear life so you can't change them out ad infinitum, whereas with soldering it's just a skill activity

i have a tremor and i've soldered plenty of boards and they've all turned out fine

if you're really worried about it just pay someone else to do it
I used millmax for one build and it was the biggest pain in the ass even though it worked as expected. Millmax sockets are an unbelievabe a waste of money and time. That day I found out that if I ever truly wanted to replace switches, I'd rather just go over an 1800 keyboard with a $5 plastic desoldering pump 10 times over than install a free set of millmax sockets on a single 40%
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:20:37
While we are asking questions about the FE prototype, I have a few more. The white on the FE is supposed to be e-white, but in a lot of the pictures they look grey. Is that just because of the inconsistent lighting? Also if you have the prototype pcb finished, can I have a measurement on the size of the switch pin holes? If you could measure 10 and average them, I can do some guess work to see if holtites/millmax/chineseknockoffmillmaxes will work.

ewhite just looks like that, most boards i've seen with it aren't a perfect white, and tend to be more grey

and millmax sockets suck just solder em

Can you tell me why they suck? I personally don't really see the downside to adding them. Also soldering is a pain, why bother when you don't have to? Especially for a board this expensive I want to be able to experience more than one kind of switch on it in the long run, as well as relube switches in the coming years. Unsoldering is super tedious if you don't have a pump.

soldering is piss easy, mill max sockets are a pain if you install them incorrectly, and they have a ridiculously short wear life so you can't change them out ad infinitum, whereas with soldering it's just a skill activity

i have a tremor and i've soldered plenty of boards and they've all turned out fine

if you're really worried about it just pay someone else to do it

I'm not worried, I've soldered plenty of things in the past, but its just one of those activities I just hate doing. I hate the fumes, I hate cleaning up after lead with my baby cousin around, and I hate the clunkiness leaving me wishing I had a third arm. The last point is less applicable to keyboard soldering because everything is held in place, but still. I'm more interested in knowing where you heard about the short life span of millmax sockets. If that really is the case I might look into alternatives. Also, how do you install a millmax socket incorrectly? I was under the impression that you just take them and push them into the pin holes. I hope I don't come off as skeptical or defensive, I just want to know where you are coming from.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: eskimojo on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:24:43
I was under the impression that you just take them and push them into the pin holes.
Mill max sockets still require soldering, and you have to be careful not to get solder inside the socket itself. It's a time consuming business and fairly intricate.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:39:14
I was under the impression that you just take them and push them into the pin holes.
Mill max sockets still require soldering, and you have to be careful not to get solder inside the socket itself. It's a time consuming business and fairly intricate.

I did a bit more research, it seems like if the millmax sockets don't fit properly, you have to solder them like you said. If anyone was curious, this was the chinese knockoffs I was talking about: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.189.7db854b8S0MMvR&id=550047547721&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail.
Took some chinese friends, mad googletranslatorfu, and inference to find those lol. The page has pictures of people using them in pcbs, but from what I can gather the socket tube seems to be slightly thicker allowing for better mounts. I'll test them in a few months with this keyboard when I get the chance.

edit: as for price they are 10 sockets for 10rmb which using current conversion is 0.14usd per socket.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 31 August 2019, 18:19:57
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Nn9iQXY.jpg)


hot as ****.
How many FE avail?
Founder's Edition

The Iron165 FE will be limited to 25 total serialized units, never to be made again. We will be handling the group buy for these directly. There will be a public raffle for 10 total group buy spots.

Thanks duderosky
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Rise on Sat, 31 August 2019, 19:19:02
Absolutely can't wait to see this board go live!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 01 September 2019, 17:38:27
Anyone know which white keyset is on the FE Prototype?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Clo_0lD on Sun, 01 September 2019, 17:42:48
Anyone know which white keyset is on the FE Prototype?

Pretty sure it's minimal
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 01 September 2019, 19:20:23
Okay thanks


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: sleepybrett on Tue, 03 September 2019, 11:21:42
No split spacebar support *fartsound*
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:20:42
That is a thing of beauty for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 04 September 2019, 22:02:30
This is phenomenal. Sad that I won't be able to buy this because my group buy is in October and I probably won't have funds till later. I think the FE would look better as Fe to match the standard element capitalization, but that's just my opinion. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: stuey138 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 22:08:48
This is phenomenal. Sad that I won't be able to buy this because my group buy is in October and I probably won't have funds till later. I think the FE would look better as Fe to match the standard element capitalization, but that's just my opinion. Keep up the good work!
Where are the umbra x iron165 renders
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: onefivenine on Thu, 05 September 2019, 00:52:24
(https://media.giphy.com/media/W80Y9y1XwiL84/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Pachriksu on Thu, 05 September 2019, 08:46:39
This is phenomenal. Sad that I won't be able to buy this because my group buy is in October and I probably won't have funds till later. I think the FE would look better as Fe to match the standard element capitalization, but that's just my opinion. Keep up the good work!
Where are the umbra x iron165 renders
Haha, maybe I'll get some soon!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 05 September 2019, 16:19:54
Btw wish the raffle would be held earlier so people who get selected can prepare the money earlier.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: enome on Thu, 05 September 2019, 18:36:59
FE OR BUST
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Egobean on Sat, 07 September 2019, 22:59:42
i would love to own one of these boards if the gb ever does happen.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: idontwanttoshowmyname on Sat, 07 September 2019, 23:58:12
Very nice, best of luck for the group buy
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: alanskiii on Sun, 08 September 2019, 01:57:42



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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Adelscott on Sun, 08 September 2019, 02:27:15
If there's really a nice ISO plate I may be in.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Quriosity on Sun, 08 September 2019, 02:29:28
If there's really a nice ISO plate I may be in.
I believe in their Discord server they stated that an ISO plate will be available for order.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: EMC Labs on Sun, 08 September 2019, 02:46:01
protos look nice
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: lbaron on Sun, 08 September 2019, 10:01:02
If there's really a nice ISO plate I may be in.
I believe in their Discord server they stated that an ISO plate will be available for order.

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This is correct, we will be offering a dedicated ISO plate and will be releasing plate files after the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: psvntrm on Sun, 08 September 2019, 13:01:42
polished copper is so much better!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:15:54
More news on colors very, very soon  :thumb:

Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (SE Color Poll Added)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:23:54
polished copper is so much better!

Polished vs matte is definitely a preference thing. We'll be sticking with a matte finish on this run, but if you are handy, you could always polish the copper yourself  :thumb:

More news on colors very, very soon  :thumb:

Blue-gray is out for this run. Dark Gray, Plum, and Navy still in the running.

Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:25:25
Purple plum case looks fantastic!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Quriosity on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:26:08
Yes! Navy is still in the running!

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:27:37
Purple plum case looks fantastic!

Thanks!  :D

Depending on the lighting, it almost appears to change hue a bit. Sometimes it looks like a deep purple, other times it appears like a deep, red wine. We're very, very happy with how it came out.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 11 September 2019, 09:52:39
FE OR BUST
Definitely trying to get down on that sweet, sweet limited FE
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Zilleon on Wed, 11 September 2019, 10:04:39
Yes! Navy is still in the running!

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Fingers crossed for Navy too! :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 11 September 2019, 10:38:49
Purple plum case looks fantastic!

Thanks!  :D

Depending on the lighting, it almost appears to change hue a bit. Sometimes it looks like a deep purple, other times it appears like a deep, red wine. We're very, very happy with how it came out.

That sounds even more intriguing. Unfortunately I can't afford it this round, but I am very interested if you're running the same colored case/ano on a future project. Hoping for a 75% with ISO compatibility or a HHKB style 60%.

Good luck with this GB! Looks like it will do great :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 10:50:21
Still praying for plum/navy. I will very much cry if navy doesn't happen lol.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: ksc on Sat, 14 September 2019, 02:25:43
Still praying for plum/navy. I will very much cry if navy doesn't happen lol.

yes.. navy is damn beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Quriosity on Sat, 14 September 2019, 02:27:38
Navy.... sweet sweet Navy....

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Sun, 15 September 2019, 22:35:44
 this plum color is very naise!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 17 September 2019, 14:16:01
We are getting closer and closer to the supposed group buy timeline. Is there any news? It's a bit worrying that there is only a week or so left until "late september" and there isn't even a typing test up. Pray this doesn't get delayed...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 17 September 2019, 14:26:25
We are getting closer and closer to the supposed group buy timeline. Is there any news? It's a bit worrying that there is only a week or so left until "late september" and there isn't even a typing test up. Pray this doesn't get delayed...
I'd highly advise that you join the discord, they have a sound test and some videos of typing. https://soundcloud.com/user-257542014/iron-165-hp-1/s-p2Klq is a link to a sound test.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 17 September 2019, 15:11:16
We are getting closer and closer to the supposed group buy timeline. Is there any news? It's a bit worrying that there is only a week or so left until "late september" and there isn't even a typing test up. Pray this doesn't get delayed...
I'd highly advise that you join the discord, they have a sound test and some videos of typing. https://soundcloud.com/user-257542014/iron-165-hp-1/s-p2Klq is a link to a sound test.

Oof, thanks for the update. I still think they should help have updated geekhack because otherwise everyone would have to join 10+discords to learn about every IC they are interested in.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 17 September 2019, 15:17:24
We are getting closer and closer to the supposed group buy timeline. Is there any news? It's a bit worrying that there is only a week or so left until "late september" and there isn't even a typing test up. Pray this doesn't get delayed...
I'd highly advise that you join the discord, they have a sound test and some videos of typing. https://soundcloud.com/user-257542014/iron-165-hp-1/s-p2Klq is a link to a sound test.

Oof, thanks for the update. I still think they should help have updated geekhack because otherwise everyone would have to join 10+discords to learn about every IC they are interested in.
That's why I love the discord folders so I can just make a keyboard folder
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: h.parks on Tue, 17 September 2019, 15:28:57
Discord is a bad combination of an RSS reader, a chatroom and Steam
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: Eclips4x on Tue, 17 September 2019, 15:30:31
We are getting closer and closer to the supposed group buy timeline. Is there any news? It's a bit worrying that there is only a week or so left until "late september" and there isn't even a typing test up. Pray this doesn't get delayed...
I'd highly advise that you join the discord, they have a sound test and some videos of typing. https://soundcloud.com/user-257542014/iron-165-hp-1/s-p2Klq is a link to a sound test.

Oof, thanks for the update. I still think they should help have updated geekhack because otherwise everyone would have to join 10+discords to learn about every IC they are interested in.

I also read that the GB is going to happen "maybe in the first week of October" for FE, and "second week of October" for SE, or the other way around. I'm going by that since that's the most recent thing I read about the timeline a couple days ago.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 17 September 2019, 16:20:56
Discord is a bad combination of an RSS reader, a chatroom and Steam
Discord is miserable. It saddens me that everyone around this hobby has moved over to it and throws other methods of comms to the wind. I wish GH's irc would make a return, or Matrix to become more adopted. Some of us won't put spyware on our machines for nice keyboards, even though we love us some nice keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: lbaron on Tue, 17 September 2019, 19:26:00
Hi All,

Sorry for the lack of a typing test.  I check Geekhack almost daily for questions and just saw this earlier.  I went out and bought a webcam ($40 logitec one, nothing fancy) and a Blue Snowball microphone so I could throw together a quick typing test for you all.  Please see the link.


In regards to the group buy, it is looking to be early/mid October as Cannon Keys has to wrap up the Equinox GB first.  We will have more detail in the coming days on exact date and the colors that will be selected.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (PROTOS ARE HERE!!!)
Post by: krey on Thu, 19 September 2019, 08:40:00
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 19 September 2019, 14:40:16
Hey everyone, quick update!

SE colors announced! Yes, we're doing all three colorways!

- Plum with Black base and badge
- Navy with Silver base and badge
- Graphite with Silver base and badge

Oh, and GB date is October 19th  :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 15:05:52
Another month and even longer to get the board huh... THE WAIT IS KILLING ME :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 19 September 2019, 15:42:51
great, and what about the FE?

Hey everyone, quick update!

SE colors announced! Yes, we're doing all three colorways!

- Plum with Black base and badge
- Navy with Silver base and badge
- Graphite with Silver base and badge

Oh, and GB date is October 19th  :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 19 September 2019, 15:56:59
Will extra PCBs and plates be avail

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:07:00
So glad all 3 SE colors are going to be made. I know a lot of people would have been gutted if one or another had been left off.

Can't wait for this!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:07:34
great, and what about the FE?

Hey everyone, quick update!

SE colors announced! Yes, we're doing all three colorways!

- Plum with Black base and badge
- Navy with Silver base and badge
- Graphite with Silver base and badge

Oh, and GB date is October 19th  :D

FE raffle will be approx a week before Group Buy date.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:08:26
Will extra PCBs and plates be avail

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Absolutely you will be able or order extra plates and PCBs
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: zantetsuken9000 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 17:02:56
YASSSSSSS!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 19 September 2019, 20:03:07
Yess, in for plum  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Thu, 19 September 2019, 20:40:21
Plum so good
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 19 September 2019, 21:49:47
I literally beg all you you to have the starting time for this be in the late afternoon (as in after 1pm) - I have really important to me in the morning and I would hate to miss out on this for that. Plus I'm sure a lot of us don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to try to snipe one of these hot puppies  :D
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 23:58:34
Mizu extra has been bought. Switches are shipping soon. Now all that is left is the board.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 19 September 2019, 23:58:52
I literally beg all you you to have the starting time for this be in the late afternoon (as in after 1pm) - I have really important to me in the morning and I would hate to miss out on this for that. Plus I'm sure a lot of us don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to try to snipe one of these hot puppies  :D
With the FE being a raffle, and the SE described as "25 units never to be produced again", doesn't that imply that the SE version will have future runs beyond the initial 200?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 20 September 2019, 01:01:42
I literally beg all you you to have the starting time for this be in the late afternoon (as in after 1pm) - I have really important to me in the morning and I would hate to miss out on this for that. Plus I'm sure a lot of us don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to try to snipe one of these hot puppies  :D
With the FE being a raffle, and the SE described as "25 units never to be produced again", doesn't that imply that the SE version will have future runs beyond the initial 200?
The FE is "25 units never to be produced again". I believe there are plans for future iterations of SE.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 20 September 2019, 08:01:29
Quote
With the FE being a raffle, and the FE described as "25 units never to be produced again", doesn't that imply that the SE version will have future runs beyond the initial 200?

The FE is more of a proof of concept, a thank you to our very first supporters, and generally just something very cool (or at least we think so).

But we don't plan to stop making boards after this. We've got a few more boards in the works that we plan to run in the future, and if demand is high enough, we're likely to run the 165 SE again as well.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: wt5now on Fri, 20 September 2019, 08:27:38
Are there switch LED holes at PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: AidenHero on Sun, 22 September 2019, 22:11:38
If you guys rerun the iron165, do you think you'lll make any major changes? or do you think its as good as it'll get
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: keuhdall on Mon, 23 September 2019, 04:59:51
I am very interested in this board and was considering building it with some Alps blue I have left.
Do you know where/how I could find a plate for such a build ?
Otherwise I guess I'll just go for gateron inks  :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: steezkeez on Mon, 23 September 2019, 11:50:23
Quote
With the FE being a raffle, and the FE described as "25 units never to be produced again", doesn't that imply that the SE version will have future runs beyond the initial 200?

The FE is more of a proof of concept, a thank you to our very first supporters, and generally just something very cool (or at least we think so).

But we don't plan to stop making boards after this. We've got a few more boards in the works that we plan to run in the future, and if demand is high enough, we're likely to run the 165 SE again as well.

I'm guessing this information is not gonna be released until way later but I thought I'd ask any way - is there any indication of possible form factor(s) for future releases? Love the IRON165 but would definitely wait for a TKL if that is planned to be in the works.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: RocketScience on Mon, 23 September 2019, 11:56:36
This build looks awesome! I wish it came with a numpad (I use it on the daily).... but absolutely gorgeous! I might have to forgo the numpad and join the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: stonefist on Mon, 23 September 2019, 12:08:09
Does this mean there will only be around 100 made for the US? Damn I hope pricing is competitive then lol :) These look amazing!!!! All in!!!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: 0wen on Mon, 23 September 2019, 15:07:40
it can hot swappable ?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 23 September 2019, 21:10:44
it can hot swappable ?
no, most custom GBs don't have hotswap PCBs. also a little fyi, where you're supposed to write your location in geekhack, you probably don't want to put your address there. I would change it to the country, state or city.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: Lil on Tue, 24 September 2019, 04:55:18
it can hot swappable ?
no, most custom GBs don't have hotswap PCBs. also a little fyi, where you're supposed to write your location in geekhack, you probably don't want to put your address there. I would change it to the country, state or city.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 24 September 2019, 09:24:59
it can hot swappable ?
no, most custom GBs don't have hotswap PCBs. also a little fyi, where you're supposed to write your location in geekhack, you probably don't want to put your address there. I would change it to the country, state or city.

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Wear the location loud 'n proud, brother!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 25 September 2019, 08:52:45
If you guys rerun the iron165, do you think you'lll make any major changes? or do you think its as good as it'll get

This is a really hard question to answer. I think if we were aware of any major changes it needed, we'd make them before this round. We're always looking to improve though, so it's possible there may be some changes in future rounds.

Are there switch LED holes at PCB?

Yep, the PCB as it's currently designed, does have support for switch LEDs.

I am very interested in this board and was considering building it with some Alps blue I have left.
Do you know where/how I could find a plate for such a build ?
Otherwise I guess I'll just go for gateron inks  :)

The PCB does not support Alps.

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Wed, 25 September 2019, 08:54:25
also should add that voxkey confirmed on discord that badge files WILL be released after the GB, so people can make their own.

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:56:32
also should add that voxkey confirmed on discord that badge files WILL be released after the GB, so people can make their own.

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Excellent. E-Stripper Pink badges incoming.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 25 September 2019, 18:37:55
also should add that voxkey confirmed on discord that badge files WILL be released after the GB, so people can make their own.

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Excellent. E-Stripper Pink badges incoming.

 :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Wed, 25 September 2019, 19:29:57
Hey everyone!

Just a quick heads up. I'll be on Mechs on Deck tonight!

Come check out the stream at 8pm CST here: https://www.twitch.tv/mechsondeck
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: ivu on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:44:49
Does it have any backlight capabilities in terms of pcb ?
Using it a lot late at night in the dark so don't hate on me ^^

If it's written and i've missed it, excuse me ;)

Edit: Single color in-switch support.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: snevok on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:05:54
Had the chance to play around with the Iron165 FE and talk with Luke for a bit.  I am extremely particular with my keyboards, and am not afraid to throw a product under the bus.  That being said, I can easily say this is one of the best keyboards I've laid my hands on.  The weight felt amazing, but at the same time not gimmicky at all.  Typing feel and sound was great.  Finish was extremely consistent, machining was perfect.  On top of that, Luke is an amazingly down to earth guy who is in the hobby for all the right reasons. 

For anyone who is having second thoughts about this keyboard, go for it and don't look back.  Best 65% of the year hands down. 

Good luck to you both, and I can't wait to see the hype grow! 
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Date / SE Colors Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:25:20
Had the chance to play around with the Iron165 FE and talk with Luke for a bit.  I am extremely particular with my keyboards, and am not afraid to throw a product under the bus.  That being said, I can easily say this is one of the best keyboards I've laid my hands on.  The weight felt amazing, but at the same time not gimmicky at all.  Typing feel and sound was great.  Finish was extremely consistent, machining was perfect.  On top of that, Luke is an amazingly down to earth guy who is in the hobby for all the right reasons. 

For anyone who is having second thoughts about this keyboard, go for it and don't look back.  Best 65% of the year hands down. 

Good luck to you both, and I can't wait to see the hype grow!

Oof. I'm sold lmao
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Mon, 07 October 2019, 21:45:10
Hey everyone, quick update!!!

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 07 October 2019, 22:45:12
FE hype train
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:49:16
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: leexy on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:23:33
will there be a limit to the number of boards each person can buy? in for at least 2 SEs  :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:26:40
will there be a limit to the number of boards each person can buy? in for a FE and a SE  :)
There will be ~10 spots raffled to purchase an FE. You are not allowed to enter more than once for the FE. The SE will be FCFS with 100 boards for NA, 50 for EU, and 50 for Asia/Oceania. The vendors will make it so you can only add one iron to cart at a time. So you can buy more than one but you'll have to do 2 transactions.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:25:59
Regarding the FE Raffle:
If we enter in the morning round will we know if we won before the night round?
If yes, can we enter again in the night round assuming we didn't win one in the morning round?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:30:24
Regarding the FE Raffle:
If we enter in the morning round will we know if we won before the night round?
If yes, can we enter again in the night round assuming we didn't win one in the morning round?

No, and I believe the plan to only allow 1 entry per person. The 2 timeslots are meant to accommodate different time zones not multiple entries/raffles.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:09:04
Regarding the FE Raffle:
If we enter in the morning round will we know if we won before the night round?
If yes, can we enter again in the night round assuming we didn't win one in the morning round?
It will be similar to keycult raffles, 2 entry times into the same raffle. You can only enter once, and you will know if you won after both entry times have occurred.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:46:55
Thanks for the clarification guys.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:50:14
RIP... the GB opens too early for me. I am so jealous of everyone who gonna be able to get it. Good work though S+R!

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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:12:37
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Kukulcanvs on Tue, 08 October 2019, 22:59:32
Excited! What's the lead time for production?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: delrn on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:35:46
Sorry if I missed it, but how much will additional plates and PCBs cost?


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: ghstgrl on Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:10:41
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:53:01
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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not to be blast you or anything but I think it's pretty unfair to vox and lbaron to ask for the link to another group buy on their page. they worked really hard on this project and it's rude to come along and say that you like some other product better in their thread. you are entitled to your own opinion, but take that elsewhere.

tldr: be considerate of GB runners before you post something
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: TobyMillett on Thu, 10 October 2019, 15:43:52
Please make it fully ISO compatible! Having to get a second company to make you a plate kinda sucks
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: deLEES on Thu, 10 October 2019, 16:38:44
@TobyMillett I think that is the plan. They mentioned they'd have an ISO plate.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 17:21:08
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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not to be blast you or anything but I think it's pretty unfair to vox and lbaron to ask for the link to another group buy on their page. they worked really hard on this project and it's rude to come along and say that you like some other product better in their thread. you are entitled to your own opinion, but take that elsewhere.

tldr: be considerate of GB runners before you post something
sorry, my bad, never think that kyuu will be back soon, but this keyboard is also great, too. hard to decision between one of these.


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 10 October 2019, 18:39:49
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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not to be blast you or anything but I think it's pretty unfair to vox and lbaron to ask for the link to another group buy on their page. they worked really hard on this project and it's rude to come along and say that you like some other product better in their thread. you are entitled to your own opinion, but take that elsewhere.

tldr: be considerate of GB runners before you post something
sorry, my bad, never think that kyuu will be back soon, but this keyboard is also great, too. hard to decision between one of these.


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Buy Both?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Nevermore012 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 18:42:25
On one hand, HYPE that the group buy is so soon! On the other hand, the 30usd increase is tough since quantrik has already announced the kyuu will be back and shipped before eoy. A hard decision is ahead of me...
really , i will wait kyuuu, and can you tell me where he announced, plz, i want to follow. Thanks a lot


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not to be blast you or anything but I think it's pretty unfair to vox and lbaron to ask for the link to another group buy on their page. they worked really hard on this project and it's rude to come along and say that you like some other product better in their thread. you are entitled to your own opinion, but take that elsewhere.

tldr: be considerate of GB runners before you post something
sorry, my bad, never think that kyuu will be back soon, but this keyboard is also great, too. hard to decision between one of these.


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Buy Both?
i can't afford both , too much , and i am not a flipper, too :)))


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: a user on Fri, 11 October 2019, 06:35:22
Uh wow, i hope the founders edition is available with iso plate.
Will try to get the white FE iso version tonight.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Fri, 11 October 2019, 07:33:04
Yes ISO plates will be made and are an option for the FE raffle and on SE (from MyKeyboard.eu and iLuMKB).

Don’t forget raffle form opens up tomorrow at 9am and 9pm Eastern Time. Only submit once, the two times are just for convenience in various time zones.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: a user on Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:03:24
Decent. Sadly only the FE is an option for me as the white version is the only one i like. SE with that colorings is no option to me. So either FE or none.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:09:26
Decent. Sadly only the FE is an option for me as the white version is the only one i like. SE with that colorings is no option to me. So either FE or none.
Same, I'm trying to get down on that hyper limited 1337 stock
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Zilleon on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:01:22
The "never to be made again" in the FE edition is so sad because I want it so so bad but there is no way I'm gonna be that lucky :( T_T

Either way I'm super excited, have been following and waiting for the project since "public day 1" :)

Congrats for the amazing project guys!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:05:51
The "never to be made again" in the FE edition is so sad because I want it so so bad but there is no way I'm gonna be that lucky :( T_T

Either way I'm super excited, have been following and waiting for the project since "public day 1" :)

Congrats for the amazing project guys!
That's all part of what makes it special, homie  :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: TobyMillett on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:45:04
Please make an ISO plate!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:50:10
Please make an ISO plate!
sir it's been confirmed an ISO plate will be offered and produced, you can calm down
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:51:04
Please make an ISO plate!
sir it's been confirmed an ISO plate will be offered and produced, you can calm down

you can never please the ISO folks
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 11 October 2019, 12:12:42
Please make an ISO plate!
sir it's been confirmed an ISO plate will be offered and produced, you can calm down
you can never please the ISO folks
haven't you heard? we're a mob (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100727.msg2779246#msg2779246) now
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 11 October 2019, 21:07:36
Hey everyone!

Here is the FE public raffle form link: ***** FE Public Raffle Link! ***** (https://forms.gle/Q7qJuUazDoEZ1yQM9) This will open at 9am and 9pm EDT for 3-minute windows.

Here are the rules:
- Only one entry per person. This means only entering once, not once during both windows.
- Form must filled out in its entirety. Invoices will be sent to the email provided so please make sure to double check all information provided.
- Filling out this form does not guarantee you a spot.
- Spots won are not transferable.
- Spots can be rescinded without notice and for any reason deemed appropriate by Smith + Rune and partners.
- Any attempt to circumvent these rules in order to increase your odds of winning will result in disqualification.


If you have any questions, please contact us AFTER filling out the form. Submissions outside of their respective 3-minute windows will not count.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eniigma on Fri, 11 October 2019, 21:19:25
Hey everyone!

Here is the FE public raffle form link: ***** FE Public Raffle Link! ***** (https://forms.gle/Q7qJuUazDoEZ1yQM9) This will open at 9am and 9pm EDT for 3-minute windows.

Here are the rules:
- Only one entry per person. This means only entering once, not once during both windows.
- Form must filled out in its entirety. Invoices will be sent to the email provided so please make sure to double check all information provided.
- Filling out this form does not guarantee you a spot.
- Spots won are not transferable.
- Spots can be rescinded without notice and for any reason deemed appropriate by Smith + Rune and partners.
- Any attempt to circumvent these rules in order to increase your odds of winning will result in disqualification.


If you have any questions, please contact us AFTER filling out the form. Submissions outside of their respective 3-minute windows will not count.
HYPE

Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: a user on Sat, 12 October 2019, 05:27:29
What options exist to get another PCB or alternative PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Sat, 12 October 2019, 07:29:49
For the FE public raffle, winners will be sent a form to choose extras and options. You don’t have to worry about choosing ahead of time, just getting your name in for the raffle.

The SE will be accompanied by extras for sale in each vendor’s store.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:01:37
Submitted! Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: SolidCactus on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:02:12
Just submitted as well! Best of luck
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: ossetepo on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:02:51
Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: CDKing on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:11:20
Quick question, in the public raffle form where it asks for your full address, would that be just your street address or your postal code, country, city, etc as well?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: swerderv on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:12:32
It should include post code, city, and country.


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Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: CDKing on Sat, 12 October 2019, 08:20:10
Ah... it possible to edit an entry during the second time frame? Haha.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Sat, 12 October 2019, 11:30:55
Hoping the address thing isn't disqualifying. I woke up far to early to catch the first entry period.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Sat, 12 October 2019, 12:28:09
Hoping the address thing isn't disqualifying. I woke up far to early to catch the first entry period.

It won't be disqualifying.  For the winners we'll be sending out a google form to fill out with all the extras and options and all your contact information on it again.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Sat, 12 October 2019, 19:12:37
Hoping the address thing isn't disqualifying. I woke up far to early to catch the first entry period.

It won't be disqualifying.  For the winners we'll be sending out a google form to fill out with all the extras and options and all your contact information on it again.

Awesome, thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Surefoot on Sat, 12 October 2019, 19:34:53
Is there a typing test ?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: lbaron on Sat, 12 October 2019, 19:47:27
Is there a typing test ?

Here you go.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-IIAgWWmM

And another here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XqK8x9uv6o
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: ladysleep on Sun, 13 October 2019, 04:36:39
Lucky~

Won a FE edition,haha~
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: matrixzj on Sun, 13 October 2019, 05:51:24
Lucky~

Won a FE edition,haha~

Congrats  :thumb:

Is there a list for winners ? how did you know it?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: eskimojo on Sun, 13 October 2019, 06:40:25
Lucky~

Won a FE edition,haha~

Congrats  :thumb:

Is there a list for winners ? how did you know it?
There's no public list, but winners will receive an options form/invoice.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: ladysleep on Sun, 13 October 2019, 07:49:58
Lucky~

Won a FE edition,haha~

Congrats  :thumb:

Is there a list for winners ? how did you know it?
There's no public list, but winners will receive an options form/invoice.

It seems there‘s no public list.
I received a message from our area team leader.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: dannyny on Sun, 13 October 2019, 22:36:35
so which SE color everyone getting?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: Howser on Tue, 15 October 2019, 08:36:58
sorry if i missed it but are there more renders / pictures with the graphite case?
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: stuey138 on Tue, 15 October 2019, 09:28:20
sorry if i missed it but are there more renders / pictures with the graphite case?
If you wait a bit, they just got the protos yesterday for navy and graphite so you should see some more pics soon.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 15 October 2019, 23:54:09
Question for @Upas on how the GB will go down. I missed FE and want to make sure I have my bases covered for this.

Will there be a google form -> Invoicing, or will there be a product page -> check out?

And for extras can we add before/after - so that when it's live we just have to worry about checking out?

I'm familiar with your store layout, just want to make sure I'm not scrambling around on Saturday and miss out because I misunderstood something.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: upas on Wed, 16 October 2019, 00:19:34
Question for @Upas on how the GB will go down. I missed FE and want to make sure I have my bases covered for this.

Will there be a google form -> Invoicing, or will there be a product page -> check out?

And for extras can we add before/after - so that when it's live we just have to worry about checking out?

I'm familiar with your store layout, just want to make sure I'm not scrambling around on Saturday and miss out because I misunderstood something.

This will run just like the S75 group buy -
Extras will go live early - so you can have them added to cart ahead of time, but the intent is to have them waiting in your cart to buy with the keyboard.
When buying the keyboard, you do not select any options. This is so that you can checkout as quickly as possible.

After placing an order, you'll receive an email from CannonKeys, with a link to the options form. Fill that in ASAP to lock in your options - they'll be editable until the GB closes.
Some people have lost the email or never received it - usually the email is in a "Promotions" tab in their Gmail. But when that does actually happen, you can check out the CannonKeys discord for a link, or send an email to support.

At the end of the buy, if you have not submitted your options, the spot will be released and re-done FCFS.


For future buys, I hope to change this process. FCFS is nice and straightforward, but it would be great if I could collect all the information before the purchase.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: BlueViola on Wed, 16 October 2019, 10:03:18
Hi Upas

One thing I'd like to clarify, if you don't mind.

You say that, if you haven't submitted your options by the end of the GB, then your spot will be released.  What's considered the end of the GB?  Is it when a designated amount of time has passed, or is it when the KB has sold out?

If the GB is over when it's sold out, and if it sells out in a couple of minutes, then this raises the question as to whether your spot would be released if you don't get the information entered in those couple of minutes.

If you have a set amount of time to enter in the information, of course, that won't be a problem... but, since you suggested getting the information filled in ASAP, it made it sound more urgent than this.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: upas on Wed, 16 October 2019, 10:29:05
Hi Upas

One thing I'd like to clarify, if you don't mind.

You say that, if you haven't submitted your options by the end of the GB, then your spot will be released.  What's considered the end of the GB?  Is it when a designated amount of time has passed, or is it when the KB has sold out?

If the GB is over when it's sold out, and if it sells out in a couple of minutes, then this raises the question as to whether your spot would be released if you don't get the information entered in those couple of minutes.

If you have a set amount of time to enter in the information, of course, that won't be a problem... but, since you suggested getting the information filled in ASAP, if made it sound more urgent than this.

This is a good point - I'll set a deadline and include it in the email. I think 3 days after purchase is a reasonable deadline.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: BlueViola on Wed, 16 October 2019, 10:50:18
This is a good point - I'll set a deadline and include it in the email. I think 3 days after purchase is a reasonable deadline.

Sounds good.  I get the feeling that this isn't going to take very long to sell out, to say the least.
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: jinrawke on Wed, 16 October 2019, 11:10:15
Been so tunnel visioned hunting other boards in the aftermarket (Zephyr eludes me)  that I almost completely missed this!  Sad I missed the raffle for the FE but glad I have a chance to snag one on Saturday :)
Title: Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (GB Dates/Times / FE Raffle Announced)
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 18 October 2019, 07:31:52
The group buy for the Iron165 SE starts in a little over 24 hours at 9am EDT worldwide!

GB Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102932.0