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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: Pachriksu on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:30:50

Title: [IC] GMK Umbra - PRICING RELEASED! Nov. 1-30
Post by: Pachriksu on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:30:50
(https://i.imgur.com/kIiV1RZ.png)
GMK Umbra

Pokťdex Entry #197 - Umbreon

Umbreon evolved as a result of exposure to the moon's waves.
It hides silently in darkness and waits for its foes to make a move.
When darkness falls, the rings on the body begin to glow,
striking fear in the hearts of anyone nearby.




Group Buy is LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103209.0)

Renders


Dawn - crykn

(https://i.imgur.com/UsEx5OA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/69g7Unl.jpg)



En Dash - wouldworks
(https://i.imgur.com/wJR2IrN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/9YWdSbo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/JKGO0me.png)



Iron165 - Smith+Rune

(https://i.imgur.com/k3k6R2j.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/heFJo6j.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/yBB0z8w.png)



Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/jEpcKDz.png)
Ooh, shiny...
Numpad + Full UK ISO + Ortho
145 USD / 137 EUR / 200 CAD / 205 AUD

(https://i.imgur.com/2YacQ5i.png)
A tribute to the OG Pokťmon game.
Full UK ISO included
70 USD / 65 EUR / 97 CAD / 102 AUD

(https://i.imgur.com/0Ooq6SU.png)
Need some extra items for your journey?
30 USD / 29 EUR / 47 CAD / 44 AUD



Deskmat

(https://i.imgur.com/DTMcmZF.png)
Complement your Umbreon!
17 USD / 19 EUR / 24 CAD / 25 AUD



Cable

(https://i.imgur.com/a2oUuaC.jpg)
Nice tail.



RAMA Cap

(https://i.imgur.com/maDfCoH.png)
Gaze into the ring.
Shiny: 45 USD / 49 EUR / 64 CAD / 68 AUD



Colors Used
These are not the production colors. Please view the GB thread for production colors.
RAL 270 20 10
RAL 270 30 10
RAL 240 60 40
           GMK CP
           GMK CR


Vendors
US - Kono
Canada - Deskhero
Europe - Mykeyboard
Asia/Oceana - DailyClack


Group Buy Date
November 1st - November 30th


Credits
This set was made possible by...
Abec13 for Iron165 renders,
PheonixStarr for keyboard renders and more design,
Kingk22 for En Dash renders and kit renders,
adxlk for the deskmat design and render,
Krelbit for helping me out a lot,
Upas for being a deskmat provider,
All my vendors,
and last but not least, everyone in this community.


Final IC Form
https://forms.gle/jmTG5Tk5XqoFgRAv9


Discord Server
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Why The Change?
I had so many requests to include shiny mods in the base kit, and also many people preferred
shiny mods more than the classic orange, so I made the decision to remove orange from this run
and just stick with blue. This decision was partly made in order to keep kit prices to a normal level.
For the people that liked the orange - I sincerely apologize. If there is enough interest for it, I will
consider running this again with orange mods. I have included an option in the final IC form to evaluate interest.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:32:46
ne shiny Umbreon accent/mod kit avail 👀
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:34:42
Definitely thinking about that! Iíll include it if a lot want it :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Cresc3nt on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:38:33
ne shiny Umbreon accent/mod kit avail 👀

This would be dangerous for my wallet. I must resist.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:50:27
Very interesting choice of colors. I wonder if yellow legends for F1..F4 and F9..F12 could be included, too (or not).

The above said, I'd like to point out a minor error in ISO support in the base kit, as it stands now: you have an 1.25U Shift key (good), mod-colored and accent-colored ISO Enter keys (good), R4 \| key (good) and R3 #~ (OOPS!). This is an all-too-common mistake in too many sets, an error I'd like to see disappear for good. Why?

When it comes to a national language, base kits start out with support for US ANSI. To add ISO support, the immediate choices are US ISO or UK ISO.
- US ISO support requires adding 4 keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25U left Shift, R3 \| and R4 \|.
- UK ISO support requires adding 8 keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25U left Shift, R1 , R1 2", R1 , R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| (not counting at least two AltGr keys as well).

As it stands now, your set fully supports neither US ISO nor UK ISO, and therefore falls "in the middle of the pond" (something that has been called "Atlantis ISO").

The solution is pretty simple: replace the R3 #~ key with an R3 \|key ó this will complete the US ISO support and keep unaltered the number of keys in the kit.


HTH!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Nevermore012 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:53:23
looks very nice, keep it up Op


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:54:12
Very interesting choice of colors. I wonder if yellow legends for F1..F4 and F9..F12 could be included, too (or not).

The above said, I'd like to point out a minor error in ISO support in the base kit, as it stands now: you have an 1.25U Shift key (good), mod-colored and accent-colored ISO Enter keys (good), R4 \| key (good) and R3 #~ (OOPS!). This is an all-too-common mistake in too many sets, an error I'd like to see disappear for good. Why?

When it comes to a national language, base kits start out with support for US ANSI. To add ISO support, the immediate choices are US ISO or UK ISO.
- US ISO support requires adding 4 keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25U left Shift, R3 \| and R4 \|.
- UK ISO support requires adding 8 keys: ISO Enter, R4 1.25U left Shift, R1 , R1 2", R1 , R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| (not counting at least two AltGr keys as well).

As it stands now, your set fully supports neither US ISO nor UK ISO, and therefore falls "in the middle of the pond" (something that has been called "Atlantis ISO").

The solution is pretty simple: replace the R3 #~ key with an R3 \|key ó this will complete the US ISO support and keep unaltered the number of keys in the kit.


HTH!
Thanks for the feedback! Iíll be changing that one key and also include extra yellow legends for the f keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: nasp on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:14:13
I like the colors, but I think a montone set would be better. Perhaps you could use the other color for an accent instead of the yellow?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:16:47
Looks nice,

Not a fan of the accents though.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:30:41
I like the colors, but I think a montone set would be better. Perhaps you could use the other color for an accent instead of the yellow?

Looks nice,

Not a fan of the accents though.



Thanks for your suggestions, I'll consider changing the color of the accents if it becomes a popular issue, but I've also been told by others that it looks good, so I'll stand by for now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: vicissitude on Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:47:29
GMK is always welcome.
Good job.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 15 August 2019, 19:08:31
Would love an accent Spacebar. Interested in this set, looks clean af.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: TokyoExpress on Thu, 15 August 2019, 21:45:09
I agree about the accents, it feels like part of the set just has yellow glass on it. I'd suggest changing the background color as well as the text to make it pop out a bit more. Other than that, looks nice! Always a fan of darker sets
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: blakstealth on Thu, 15 August 2019, 21:57:34
Very nice. It gives off Umbra Witch vibes from the Bayonetta games.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: stuey138 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 22:58:15
I love this set, hopefully doesn't get any flak or comparisons to gmk lux. I'd be all for a shiny umbreon kit too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:53:43
nice

if you need a vendor

🤙
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Nerdbot5000 on Fri, 16 August 2019, 02:25:34
Looks good! Would prefer if the alphas and mods were the same color (7547 C).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: crzone on Fri, 16 August 2019, 05:15:14
There's something with this colorway that makes it very relaxing to look at.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: reidd on Fri, 16 August 2019, 10:25:12
Very interested :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: im_hide on Fri, 16 August 2019, 16:36:20
Looks good! Would prefer if the alphas and mods were the same color (7547 C).

I disagree, I think the subtle contrast is extremely satisfying.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: im_hide on Fri, 16 August 2019, 16:52:37
You could potentially swap the orange with V2 to simplify the color matching process. Also potentially the darker black could be simplified to CR since it's already so close to begin with that I'm not sure that it could even be matched close enough to matter.

(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Fri, 16 August 2019, 17:16:29
You could potentially swap the orange with V2 to simplify the color matching process. Also potentially the darker black could be simplified to CR since it's already so close to begin with that I'm not sure that it could even be matched close enough to matter.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)

Thanks for the feedback. I'll consider V2, and I believe I was mistaken to use Black 6 C. I actually meant that to be a very dark navy color, and it will be fixed with a brighter color after I get my samples.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: im_hide on Fri, 16 August 2019, 17:33:42
Here's a render of the current Pantones for reference

(https://imhide.s-ul.eu/m43vVJxX)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Fri, 16 August 2019, 19:22:39
Here's a render of the current Pantones for reference

Show Image
(https://imhide.s-ul.eu/m43vVJxX)

Wow, thanks for the render! I'll definitely be making those colors much lighter once I get my RAL samples in the mail.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Kokaloo on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:09:50
nice

if you need a vendor

🤙
krel when he sees a yellow set

(https://i.imgur.com/b5msKcY.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: dyrdevil on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:12:48
Very nice!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Peripheral Prophet on Tue, 20 August 2019, 09:28:54
Lovely set, Id be all over this.. please bring it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: vi0till on Tue, 20 August 2019, 10:23:48
This is the perfect set for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sat, 24 August 2019, 14:32:07
IC Update 1 Posted.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: stuey138 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 15:00:22
That shiny kit is a big nut, loving it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: nasp on Sat, 24 August 2019, 15:20:35
Thanks for adding the 4, 1u keys to base for min ortho support. Just a small nitpick, please change shift and enter to text mods to be consistent with the other ortho mods (out, data, delete). Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sat, 24 August 2019, 15:22:53
Will do :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 24 August 2019, 15:29:55
The addition of the shiny kit has me all in. Good job

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 16:17:11
Wish you could just have another base kit with the shiny mods included. Everyone who wants the blue will need to spend probably 120 for the base and another 60~80 for the shiny kit ;-;.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sat, 24 August 2019, 16:39:56
Wish you could just have another base kit with the shiny mods included. Everyone who wants the blue will need to spend probably 120 for the base and another 60~80 for the shiny kit ;-;.
Then there would probably be issues with moq :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: SUB01 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 20:58:26
icrievrytim ;-;
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 24 August 2019, 21:09:01
That shiny kit is MAAAAD good dude, great job! In for sure.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:02:17
Really like this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:36:04
Oof chief. Thatís on sexy update. Hoping for accents (both base and shiny) for the spacebar and arrow keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: stuey138 on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:59:02
I'd really like a shiny version of the deskmat if possible. Same shape but change the colour and it'd be great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: jimboytacos on Sun, 25 August 2019, 00:01:09
The lighter blue legends make this set look too similar to GMK Phosphorus.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: stuey138 on Sun, 25 August 2019, 00:50:02
The lighter blue legends make this set look too similar to GMK Phosphorus.
I think the background is enough to differentiate and the legends are still a different colour for the alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Cyrille0815 on Sun, 25 August 2019, 09:13:01
Here's a render of the current Pantones for reference

Show Image
(https://imhide.s-ul.eu/m43vVJxX)


Really like it so...
Do you think you can plan a Norde / International Extension for the german users  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra
Post by: Pachriksu on Sun, 25 August 2019, 09:26:41
Here's a render of the current Pantones for reference

Show Image
(https://imhide.s-ul.eu/m43vVJxX)


Really like it so...
Do you think you can plan a Norde / International Extension for the german users  ;D
It's gotta get enough interest, but I'll add it as an option next big IC update.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Big Update, New IC Form)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sun, 25 August 2019, 15:12:44
I'd really like a shiny version of the deskmat if possible. Same shape but change the colour and it'd be great.
I saw lots of interest for this, so it's done :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Visionaire on Sun, 01 September 2019, 18:02:45
Prefer the Shiny version over the base. Really wish there was an option for this outside of being an add-on
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: nasp on Mon, 02 September 2019, 00:00:43
So glad to see ortho in the base. Count me in  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: roguesystem087 on Thu, 05 September 2019, 10:29:04
dude the shiny one, is littttttttttt.......... count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: ymaaan on Fri, 06 September 2019, 04:39:28
Are there already prices for the sets? Amazing set, would surely join in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Fri, 06 September 2019, 15:13:53
Are there already prices for the sets? Amazing set, would surely join in.
Prices are coming soon, I'm waiting on GMK to reply :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 06 September 2019, 19:13:06
With the latest set of renders, my interest in this just shot up from "probably should buy" to "don't even consider missing this".  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: driftingbunnies on Fri, 06 September 2019, 19:56:42
Where is the numpad kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sun, 08 September 2019, 03:35:36
I never knew this Pokťmon was these colors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: ymaaan on Sun, 08 September 2019, 04:26:53
Are there already prices for the sets? Amazing set, would surely join in.
Prices are coming soon, I'm waiting on GMK to reply :)
Aight, thanks. Time to prepare!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sun, 08 September 2019, 17:05:11
No numpad, no thank you. Theme and colors look good otherwise.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sun, 08 September 2019, 18:33:53
Where is the numpad kit?

No numpad, no thank you. Theme and colors look good otherwise.

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I don't think there will be enough interest for the MOQ for numpad. I may include an option for numpad interest in the final IC form, though, and people can vote on it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sun, 08 September 2019, 20:46:44
Where is the numpad kit?

No numpad, no thank you. Theme and colors look good otherwise.

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I don't think there will be enough interest for the MOQ for numpad. I may include an option for numpad interest in the final IC form, though, and people can vote on it.
I can't think of any recent group buys where the numpad didn't hit MOQ. It would at least be worth it to see how much one would cost.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 08 September 2019, 21:57:25
+1 for a numpad kit

Also, will you be doing a separate icon modifier kit? Or consider doing the icon esc in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Tue, 10 September 2019, 21:06:57
+1 for a numpad kit

Also, will you be doing a separate icon modifier kit? Or consider doing the icon esc in the base kit?
Because of the way the kits are structured, I don't think I could add a modifier kit because there are two separate mod colors I would have to cover, and that would probably end up with a more expensive icon mod kit or two separate icon mod kits with different colors that don't hit MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:14:00
Out of curiosity, why an Umbreon theme kit first? Why not pachirisu your namesake? Also GMK garchomp when?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 11 September 2019, 17:52:15
Out of curiosity, why an Umbreon theme kit first? Why not pachirisu your namesake? Also GMK garchomp when?
Haha, Pachriksu is actually a malapropism for my full name (Patrick). I chose to do Umbra first because that's the first thing I thought of and Umbreon has some nice colors. I'll have to hold off on Pokemon themed sets after this one though, at least that's what I decided. I don't want to get pounded by Nintendo. This set was only slightly based off the Pokemon's colors and has a different name. If I start doing things like using actual names and designs for the set and related then I can assure myself that it won't end up well. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Really_Just_AE on Wed, 18 September 2019, 00:09:45
not gonna lie these kinda look like e621 colors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: im_hide on Sun, 22 September 2019, 13:49:02
i like the new colors a lot more, nice one :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: jillsandwiched on Sun, 22 September 2019, 15:01:19
This one looks great. I'll be looking forward to seeing the prices!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sun, 22 September 2019, 17:00:09
i like the new colors a lot more, nice one :thumb:
I actually had to change colors one last time because I needed all RAL colors, so stay tuned for the new ones  :-X (massive amounts of new renders though)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Zephyraeon on Sun, 22 September 2019, 17:06:30
I love Umbreon but feel like the set doesnít really fit without glow in the dark alphas...

They can be done, GMK mizu and terra both have a glow in the dark novelty.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Vendors Found)
Post by: Pachriksu on Sun, 22 September 2019, 17:27:23
I love Umbreon but feel like the set doesnít really fit without glow in the dark alphas...

They can be done, GMK mizu and terra both have a glow in the dark novelty.
They are being done  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:31:01
IC Updated!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:16:16
That pricing though :s

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:20:43
Excellent kits.

Looking forward to the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: harlekein on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:58:24
I would buy Hiragana monolegend.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Hungphm01 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:06:37
115 for hiragana rip wallet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:33:32
That pricing though :s

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I know, I learned my lesson on too many colors this time, but I tried to make prices as fair as possible from the quotes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:46:47
That pricing though :s

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I know, I learned my lesson on too many colors this time, but I tried to make prices as fair as possible from the quotes.
I and the community appreciate everyone's efforts in getting out good quality sets.

Keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:01:03
That pricing though :s

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I know, I learned my lesson on too many colors this time, but I tried to make prices as fair as possible from the quotes.
I and the community appreciate everyone's efforts in getting out good quality sets.

Keep up the good work!

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
Thank you! If anyone has any suggestions to reduce the prices of the kits by moving or removing keys without affecting MOQ, Iíll gladly take them into consideration. Iím already working on prices to see if they can be lowered more, especially Hiragana and Numpad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:09:49
Thank you! If anyone has any suggestions to reduce the prices of the kits by moving or removing keys without affecting MOQ, Iíll gladly take them into consideration. Iím already working on prices to see if they can be lowered more, especially Hiragana and Numpad.

I first want to say, I'm not going in on the set so take what I say at face value.
For the numpad, I think you could probably save by putting the blue mods into the shiny kit. My logic: Numpad users will get the base kit, but may not get the shiny kit. They're stuck paying more for mods they might not/probably won't use. If numpad users DO get the shiny kit, well, they already have the base numpad kit and now the matching shiny.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:21:44
Thank you! If anyone has any suggestions to reduce the prices of the kits by moving or removing keys without affecting MOQ, Iíll gladly take them into consideration. Iím already working on prices to see if they can be lowered more, especially Hiragana and Numpad.

I first want to say, I'm not going in on the set so take what I say at face value.
For the numpad, I think you could probably save by putting the blue mods into the shiny kit. My logic: Numpad users will get the base kit, but may not get the shiny kit. They're stuck paying more for mods they might not/probably won't use. If numpad users DO get the shiny kit, well, they already have the base numpad kit and now the matching shiny.
Thatís definitely something Iím considering if it doesnít affect shiny kit price too much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: nasp on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:00:54
This is looking very good. I'm a bit worried about some pricing and the number of kits you have though. If you haven't used up all of your GMK quotes yet, I'd suggest consolidating some of the kits - which would mean removing some things. This might seem drastic, but perhaps take out base mods and replace with shiny mods? Also while you are at it, put numpad back in base kit. Keep the 4, 1u ortho keys in of course, because I love ortho.

Would like to see this successful, that is all. Hope this constructive criticism is helpful. Good luck  :thumb:


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:23:14
So your telling me it's going to cost me $275 if I want to run the set with hiragana alphas and a numpad... GMK Vaporwave had Hiragana alphas and a numpad in the base kit and that price was only $187. Something seems off about the prices for the kits, they are extremely high.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:35:34
So your telling me it's going to cost me $275 if I want to run the set with hiragana alphas and a numpad... GMK Vaporwave had Hiragana alphas and a numpad in the base kit and that price was only $187. Something seems off about the prices for the kits, they are extremely high.
Iím working on the prices, and trying to reorganize the kits more efficiently.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 13:21:26
I wonder if it would be worth putting in the effort to make it so if someone gets the shiny mods and hiragana alphas it is possible to cover a board like if it were a base kit (with alpha colored spacebars not mod colored). Meaning people aren't spending upward of $300 to get a bunch of stuff they will not be using (the base kit is basically unused except alpha colored spacebars, the alpha colored function keys and a few misc caps, so $130 for 10ish caps... and you can't sell the remainder as it wouldn't be able to cover a board anymore). Plus if that person were to also get a numpad it would be $390...not something many are willing to spend (including me).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:42:24
Phew, 115$ for an Alphas kit and 130 for a numpad-less base kit all seem way higher than standard. I would definitely try reworking the kits, to stay competitive. There are so many more reasonably priced sets every month that I think it may be hard to get a lot of buyers for this one at these prices. Just my .02

It might be worth seeing what the price is to combine shiny + hiragana and just run with two bases?

Good luck, hope you get it figured out - set looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Cresc3nt on Wed, 09 October 2019, 15:10:58
I like the idea of this set very much as an Umbreon lover. The shiny RAMA cap looks amazing, and even if I don't get anything else, I may just get that. I personally don't see myself wanting to buy a base kit and then a shiny kit just to get what I want as that would be $210. I would like the option for the shiny kit + the original alphas to be on it's own but that may affect MOQ since there may 2 different base kits or a vote for which one people prefer as the main kit would be better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 09 October 2019, 15:18:50
How have I not asked about Colevrak for this? It's gorgeous.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 09 October 2019, 16:17:49
Lemme just reach into my bank of unlimited wealth
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 09 October 2019, 16:22:46
Phew, 115$ for an Alphas kit and 130 for a numpad-less base kit all seem way higher than standard. I would definitely try reworking the kits, to stay competitive. There are so many more reasonably priced sets every month that I think it may be hard to get a lot of buyers for this one at these prices. Just my .02

It might be worth seeing what the price is to combine shiny + hiragana and just run with two bases?

Good luck, hope you get it figured out - set looks great.
I thought, "that's a great idea!"... until I remembered MOQ  :blank: (I highly doubt I'll reach 250 for both base kits.)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Zilleon on Sat, 12 October 2019, 01:36:31
Really glad to see the mods being sold separately.

As a Colevrak user the alphas don't work for me, but with separate mods I can hopefully mix and match it with other sets that support Colevrak like Oblivion or something else :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Agilr on Sat, 12 October 2019, 01:48:24
Hey, was wondering if the Shiny Kit was 188 AUD as it'd make it more expensive than Base Kit.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 12 October 2019, 04:41:09
Love the shiny kit, but confused why it's virtually the same price as the base kit which has a heap more keys....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: Cresc3nt on Sat, 12 October 2019, 17:23:34
I believe the pricing got even worse for those who want the base kit and the shiny kit as it's not 245 USD versus the 210 before. I don't know what else changed but definitely going to have to pass on this set now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: ctrlshiftbryan on Sat, 19 October 2019, 09:26:52
Phew, 115$ for an Alphas kit and 130 for a numpad-less base kit all seem way higher than standard. I would definitely try reworking the kits, to stay competitive. There are so many more reasonably priced sets every month that I think it may be hard to get a lot of buyers for this one at these prices. Just my .02

It might be worth seeing what the price is to combine shiny + hiragana and just run with two bases?

Good luck, hope you get it figured out - set looks great.
I thought, "that's a great idea!"... until I remembered MOQ  :blank: (I highly doubt I'll reach 250 for both base kits.)

I actually believe 2 base sets would do better than what you currently have. Look at all the GMK sets that have run lately. Not a single one was in trouble of making MOQ with the exception of a few add-on kits.

Here is the thing. You have other competition for base sets besides what just in this GB. There will be many other GMK sets whatever month this runs so if buyers can't get covered for a decent price they will just look to other GMK sets that have better base sets.

For $15 you could add alphas into the shiny kit and yes you may loose a few sales out of your base kit, but at the same time you will also gain sales for people who were on the fence of buying both kits for $245 and only covering one board but for $260 they get two sets to cover two boards...

You could always run a survey to get the exact feedback your looking for...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: kblue5688 on Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:11:26
Love the set donít get me wrong but I think if you were able to get the shiny kit to be less expensive more people would cop especially myself.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra (Massive Update) - New Colors, Kits, Renders, Pricing, Nov 1-31
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 20 October 2019, 20:17:47
Love the shiny kit, but confused why it's virtually the same price as the base kit which has a heap more keys....

Would have a much lower MOQ I would imagine. If the base is priced at 250/500 and the shiny is priced at 50 or 100, then the prices will not be a direct apples to apples comparison.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Pachriksu on Mon, 21 October 2019, 15:31:44
Thread updated. Theme change + awaiting reduced prices
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: fcoury on Mon, 21 October 2019, 15:37:41
I am really bummed about the accents change last minute. I was going all in but not a fan of the new ones. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: deLEES on Tue, 22 October 2019, 04:46:16
Loving the updated set. Espeially the complete ISO UK inclusion. Any chance of a Iron165 Plum SE render? I'd love to see how umbra contrasts the plum colour.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Rensuya on Tue, 22 October 2019, 20:38:41
Wish the spacebars kit had blue space bars, it seems a little odd to have the mod color ones over that. But otherwise, I really like this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: nasp on Tue, 22 October 2019, 21:14:27
If the pricing is competitive with other sets, it's going to be hard to resist picking this up.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 22 October 2019, 22:52:18
Iím in. I was iffy in the beginning but I canít miss this now
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 22 October 2019, 23:10:28
No bar 5 key for the numpad?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 23 October 2019, 15:53:18
No bar 5 key for the numpad?

For that matter, what are the two sets of F & J in the Base kit?  They appear to be identical in the render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 23 October 2019, 19:17:15
No bar 5 key for the numpad?

For that matter, what are the two sets of F & J in the Base kit?  They appear to be identical in the render.
The other set has a bar, it's just a little hard to see in that render, sorry

No bar 5 key for the numpad?

Update: I'm fixing the kits a bit, I'll add the bar 5 key and a mod colored `¨ key that I didn't catch before :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Oni74 on Thu, 24 October 2019, 09:06:06
Renders look great, but I've a feeling I liked it more before the most recent change. I couldn't find pics of the previous version so I can't say for certain. Unfortunately, the inclusion of the numpad in base kit makes me look elsewhere. I've heard arguments from other gb runners why they choose to include it, but i don't buy it and definitely don't want numpad kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 24 October 2019, 14:55:58
I really like the colors, but the cyan mod legends kind of clash with the white alpha legends on top of the background color contrast.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: nasp on Thu, 24 October 2019, 19:05:35
Renders look great, but I've a feeling I liked it more before the most recent change. I couldn't find pics of the previous version so I can't say for certain. Unfortunately, the inclusion of the numpad in base kit makes me look elsewhere. I've heard arguments from other gb runners why they choose to include it, but i don't buy it and definitely don't want numpad kit.

In the previous kitting, numpad by itself was $65. It included shiny and OG mod colors. Keeping the numpad in base and dropping one of the mod colors is the right move unless you think price doesn't matter. Just the base and the numpad kits together would have been $195! I don't think this set would have reached MOQ at those prices, the numpad kit surely wouldn't have.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: phinix on Tue, 29 October 2019, 07:28:58
Am I losing it, or I saw a different colors here?
I liked it with some orange colors... or was it different set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Pachriksu on Tue, 29 October 2019, 17:12:41
Am I losing it, or I saw a different colors here?
I liked it with some orange colors... or was it different set?
Theme color was changed to blue because of pricing and kit issues. Therefore, I will post an IC sometime in the future for orange as a kind of re-run.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 30 October 2019, 00:54:19
Am I losing it, or I saw a different colors here?
I liked it with some orange colors... or was it different set?
Theme color was changed to blue because of pricing and kit issues. Therefore, I will post an IC sometime in the future for orange as a kind of re-run.

GMK Umbra Origins
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: infinitykw on Wed, 30 October 2019, 02:52:10
The current colorway is a no for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - Theme Update, Final IC Form, Pricing Soon, Nov. 1-30
Post by: phinix on Wed, 30 October 2019, 03:40:22
Am I losing it, or I saw a different colors here?
I liked it with some orange colors... or was it different set?
Theme color was changed to blue because of pricing and kit issues. Therefore, I will post an IC sometime in the future for orange as a kind of re-run.

Ah, ok, I'll wait for that colors then:)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - PRICING RELEASED! Nov. 1-30
Post by: Pachriksu on Wed, 30 October 2019, 07:04:04
Three updated!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Umbra - PRICING RELEASED! Nov. 1-30
Post by: CodeMayhem on Wed, 30 October 2019, 07:17:17
i know it's probably too late and not many ppl are going to need this anyways, but seeing as you added a 1u shift to the base kit for ortho support you just need to add a 2u shift for 60 percents with arrow clusters.