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Title: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: ogWalker on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:38:02
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586644327543865344/628709577587949588/Hive_Banner.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665548691049939008/668597995159420938/Minivans-Ring.png)

PBT Hive



Group Buy Starts January 24th!



Design

So this set probably looks very familiar and that's because it is! GMK Yellowjacket was a shelved project by GTRX and I wanted to get it going again, but as a pbt keycap set instead of the originally planned GMK. I've made changes to the kits, colors and renamed the set Hive. The colors are all custom pantones. I hope you like it!

(http://width=725 height=408https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013011469565972/gs75-PC.png]http://)

Kits



Mega Kit $125 USD

(https://i.imgur.com/jkSxxJoh.jpg)


Core Kit $80 USD

(https://i.imgur.com/qMeAItP.jpg)

Monochrome Kit $35 USD

(https://i.imgur.com/PK5reCT.jpg)


Novelties Kit $12 USD!!

(https://i.imgur.com/rjxzhi0.jpg)




Renders by MetallicCharles & Pheonixstarr

TGR 910 RE

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669012674805497856/910-1.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669012693075886103/910-3.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669012687803514930/910-2.png)

Godspeed75

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669012967005618176/gs75.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013011469565972/gs75-PC.png)

Minivan

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013193787441182/minivan-hive.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562698791115948032/669013189903646730/minivan-darkPC.png)

Cygnus

(https://i.imgur.com/zUeBIEy.jpg)




Polaris

(https://i.imgur.com/JqQN1Ae.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LDLlMZz.jpg)



Vendors

US: https://thekey.company (https://thekey.company)

Canada! https://www.deskhero.ca (https://www.deskhero.ca)

EU: https://candykeys.com (https://candykeys.com)

Asia: https://ilumkb.com (https://ilumkb.com)

Oceania:  https://dailyclack.com/ (https://dailyclack.com/)





(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586644327543865344/628709577587949588/Hive_Banner.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Obamas Mama on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:42:53
Wait what? How are they going to dyesub that? Looks beautiful by the way.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Full on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:43:36
I.. actually love it, gj!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: PaultheSloth on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:44:06
I'm in , for the standard main kit .
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:44:42
It's aight, I guess.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: vi0till on Wed, 04 September 2019, 07:48:51
I'm in, for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:07:08
Interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: demonahz on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:08:58
I'm in on this one for sure
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:16:03
Definitely interested.
I would like to see an international kit.

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:23:48
How are they going to be able to dyesub this? Reverse dyesub for that many keys would be ridiculously expensive, no?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Emir on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:45:11
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.

Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 04 September 2019, 08:51:10
This set is the bees knees.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Paddel06 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:00:51
Wow, this looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Datastream on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:21:05
This looks so good!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:22:02
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.

Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Haven't they done a black on grey kit before?
Then again they seem to be really inconsistent on what they can and can't do as of late.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Emir on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:24:55
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.

Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?
Haven't they done a black on grey kit before?
Then again they seem to be really inconsistent on what they can and can't do as of late.

Black on grey can be dyesubbed normally, as it's not a lighter legend on dark background. This is Light legends on dark background, it can't be dyesubbed normally - which means it'd have to be done some other way, like reverse dyesub/allover-dyesub.

To my knowledge, ePBT have never done it, and probably for the reason that it's too much to do currently. They do reverse dyesub accent keys because it's a lot less work (I think for epbt kuro/shiro, or did they outsource?). If they leveled up and are willing to reverse dyesub whole sets now, then that would be awesome and opens up a lot of possibilities!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:37:59
Eh, I didn't know ePBT were willing to reverse dyesub a whole set. That insane amount of QC it would take is probably not worth it for them.

Did they confirm to you that they'll do it?

Perhaps that will drive the set to use the white alphas after all?

(could I, then, buy a kit with just the mods? I wonder...)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:49:13
need more PBT sets, but I heard that producing PBT with custom colors is more difficult than ABS, could this set have chance to get to GB?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: t0rk on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:03:33
Cost estimate?

Interest is price dependent.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: nasp on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:11:30
Count me in if ePBT can do it.

Also, gotta say like usual, I'd love to see the 4 min. ortho keys in base or spacebars.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:28:27
Gonna be interesting to see if they're willing to do it and the cost, but last I heard their reverse subbing wasn't as sharp as their normal subbing and had some color consistency issues.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 10:33:33
Cost estimate?

Interest is price dependent.

I mean ePBT sets are usually cheaper than GMK sets, and any cheaper alternative is appreciated. I hope to see more ePBT sets soon!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Gtrx on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:13:36
Count me in if ePBT can do it.

Also, gotta say like usual, I'd love to see the 4 min. ortho keys in base or spacebars.

I do like 40's kits ;P but I don't think there's going to be enough interest to make a 40's kit for this set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Lelantos on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:24:37
Definitely interested if it's possible, pbt #1.

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: scoopbb on Wed, 04 September 2019, 12:32:30
ortho kit please. epbt has ortho molds and its usually cheap.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Vireca on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:18:11
Looks so good, really. That yellow its on point. The alphas base color is blue?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: piit79 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:59:22
ortho kit please. epbt has ortho molds and its usually cheap.
Yes please! I like the colourway a lot, but I'd really like an ortho kit if I'm to join.

I'm also curious about the reverse dye sub process - is there such ePBT set yet?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:07:25
Really like the look with the white alphas!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:40:37
I support this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: growler on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:57:40
Superb. Really, really nice looking.

Can ePBT deliver on the dyesub quality and lack of warp???

If so, I am on this like a tramp on chips.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: caronte0 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 16:14:10
No matter what if you made with the letters on yellow or grey (although i preffer grey) i'm super in, its hard to see nice pbt sets
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:41:31
This looks awesome.  Especially with e-yellow coatings showing up more and more!

BTW you have a typo in your banner logo: it says "EBPT" =P
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:42:55
E-yellow + Hive =

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:50:00
I support this.  :thumb:
^ +1. i support this too. If you run, I'll be first in line to back your project.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: ever9415 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 19:51:51
Very nice design.
I want to buy if GB starts.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 04 September 2019, 20:22:51
Love monochrome and main kit, I think you forgot monochrome of numpad kit, though
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:05:57
Nice work but really doubt ePBT will do the whole set with reverse dyesub. OP should check with ePBT before going any further in this project.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: hammerbrotha on Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:15:26
I love the look. But my skeptical hippo eyes say that the reverse dye sub ain't happening. Kuro Shiro did it for like.. 2 keys (and from goks recent samples) had some minor issues.

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: liangalv on Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:19:57
Please, please, please, super in
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: justsomerandomusername on Wed, 04 September 2019, 21:23:44
Also interested in the kit, but I would only go if it end up being black with yellow legends.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 05 September 2019, 02:45:01
Nice work but really doubt ePBT will do the whole set with reverse dyesub. OP should check with ePBT before going any further in this project.
I love the look. But my skeptical hippo eyes say that the reverse dye sub ain't happening. Kuro Shiro did it for like.. 2 keys (and from goks recent samples) had some minor issues.

Very much this. EPBT was reluctant to reverse dye sub even a couple of keys, doubt.png that doing an entire set is a possibility. Even if it were, the level of QC would have to be out of this world. I don't think EPBT is quite there yet.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: enome on Thu, 05 September 2019, 18:39:21
i need this set with yellow alphas for all my black & brass keebs; must run
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 05 September 2019, 19:02:08
Also, ePBT issues aside, you're missing R1 End and R1 PgDn for 1800 support, and you appear to have accidentally cut off the numpad into a separate kit.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: tectonicplate on Thu, 05 September 2019, 22:44:32
Love the set.

 Curious to see samples if possible.
Also request more ortho/odd support.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: caronte0 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 04:52:03
Love the set.

Curious to see samples if possible.
Also request more ortho/odd support.
probably is still to soon to have any samples.

The set looks awesome, pls make it happen
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 06 September 2019, 13:31:38
Love the set.

Curious to see samples if possible.
Also request more ortho/odd support.
probably is still to soon to have any samples.

The set looks awesome, pls make it happen
Agree. please make it happen. I have e-yellow polaris waiting for this set.

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: tossedrightout on Sun, 08 September 2019, 18:28:49
This is great, would love this in PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: vafan on Sun, 08 September 2019, 19:37:50
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: mwahlig on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:12:32
This looks great!

Any chance at adding an ortho kit, similar to what was offered with ePBT greyscale?


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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: YellowHalo on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:14:22
Oh my, a yellow set that I would very much like to have. Definitely getting that white alpha to get that Yellowjacket look. Kinda glad that this will be a epbt set instead of a gmk set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Shenpai on Mon, 09 September 2019, 01:16:40
Cautiously optimistic about this one, would love to see ePBT break into reverse dyesub.

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: lookid on Mon, 09 September 2019, 04:02:45
This set absolutely amazing! Especially in pbt.
Definitely, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 09 September 2019, 07:41:50
This looks great!

Any chance at adding an ortho kit, similar to what was offered with ePBT greyscale?


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I will for sure consider adding kits once we receive samples and hear back from epbt.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 09 September 2019, 20:20:18
9.9.19 - Removed grey alpha legend base kit and renders. There has been and overwhelming amount of people who prefer the yellow alpha legends, so that will be the available main kit for Hive.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: SeamansBeard on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:39:11
Finally some yellow on black pbt! Add a international kit and I'am in!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:52:47
Finally some yellow on black pbt! Add a international kit and I'am in!
Add a baguette kit (ISO-FR) and I'm in as well !
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: HailNibbler on Tue, 10 September 2019, 02:56:11
Interested  :)
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Waffle0508 on Tue, 10 September 2019, 06:03:24
Interested!

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Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Popopro on Tue, 10 September 2019, 07:41:57
Hopefully the price isn't too far off from other epbt sets.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: 94smart on Tue, 10 September 2019, 21:15:14
i like it!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Muammar on Tue, 10 September 2019, 22:26:38
wow Like Banana Dark
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Nerdbot5000 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:14:48
I miss the grey on grey alphas. Otherwise an amazing set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: geekit on Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:22:52
I'm cautiously optimistic. Like what other have said, it's not easy doing reverse dye-sub PBT.

It's been done (including double-shot PBT with various quality), but again, not easy to convince the vendor to do it.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Eyris on Fri, 13 September 2019, 04:12:43
I'm definitely interested in getting the white monochrome alphas + hive base set. Will there be deskmats too? I really like this color scheme.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: growler on Fri, 13 September 2019, 04:51:38
If it's a cost thing (higher QA cost for epbt for the reverse dyesub) could this be quantified? Would it add 10%, 50% to their costs?

Would be nice to know what their parameters are, so we know what ours are.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 13 September 2019, 05:03:26
Nice to see some more reverse dye-sub, I'm on board and don't mind paying a premium over the regular epbt sets.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: _senya on Fri, 13 September 2019, 12:43:35
I wanted yellow jacket, but since it's shelved this one will work too. Although it would be more expensive to get the same look since you won't get white alphas in base. I might have to settle for just black, the base one. Is there any idea on price range?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: honoka on Fri, 13 September 2019, 13:05:59
+1 for international
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: growler on Fri, 13 September 2019, 13:20:04
I'm going to need a suitably high end case for this, Fjell Pro or something, dammit!

growler

Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: _senya on Fri, 13 September 2019, 15:44:48
I'm going to need a suitably high end case for this, Fjell Pro or something, dammit!
The yellow-white version of this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102334.0) should look good with this set.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 13 September 2019, 17:51:54
I don't think I've seen the epbt profile in person before. What's it like? OEM?

btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Fri, 13 September 2019, 20:33:19
I don't think I've seen the epbt profile in person before. What's it like? OEM?

btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.

ePBT = Enjoy PBT = Cherry profile.

that's a typo
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 13 September 2019, 22:33:24
[derped and replied again below. Deleting this one]
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: growler on Sat, 14 September 2019, 04:09:25
I'm going to need a suitably high end case for this, Fjell Pro or something, dammit!
The yellow-white version of this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102334.0) should look good with this set.
Thabks, colour is nice! Not a fan of the fugly left cluster though, kills my key boner.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Sat, 14 September 2019, 12:26:14
I wanted yellow jacket, but since it's shelved this one will work too. Although it would be more expensive to get the same look since you won't get white alphas in base. I might have to settle for just black, the base one. Is there any idea on price range?

Hopefully the prices will be on par with other pbt sets. Going to try to keep the base kit price as low as possible.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: ImaSpacePotato on Sun, 15 September 2019, 18:13:04
Any plans to have a specialty kit for things like 1U shifts?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: psxndc on Sun, 15 September 2019, 20:46:51
ePBT = Enjoy PBT = Cherry profile

Ahhhh, thanks. Any chance of a Colemak option?

btw, the OP image/graphic says eBPT, not ePBT.
that's a typo

... Yes. That's what I figured and why I pointed it out in case you hadn't noticed. Just trying to be helpful.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: yjchan27 on Mon, 16 September 2019, 01:22:01
I am really interested with this one. I hope it will be released soon. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: 94smart on Mon, 16 September 2019, 03:40:03
I'm in, and i need some yellow minibar.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: caronte0 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 11:50:13
any update?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Soraie on Thu, 19 September 2019, 20:45:12
This would be a very interesting first set in PBT. Definitely interested and hope it makes it into GB.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: harlekein on Fri, 20 September 2019, 02:59:43
I don't know what type of MOQ ePBT requires, but if it's not high I would love to see a Colevrak kit.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: saint_james on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:32:17
Really interested if the reverse dyesub actually delivers results as intended.  Have there been successful implementations of reverse dyesub released onto the market in other keysets?  Or is this hopeful thinking for a potentially emerging technology?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: lookid on Mon, 23 September 2019, 15:16:24
And please, if it possible, add 2U shift!
It will be nice to see it in base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Dungo on Mon, 23 September 2019, 23:40:58
Looks fantastic! Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 24 September 2019, 16:49:54
And please, if it possible, add 2U shift!
It will be nice to see it in base kit.

Yes please!
Title: Re: [IC] ePBT Hive
Post by: d4vid4f on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:10:24
We need more yellow key sets.

With that in mind I made this the other day for the Alpha Keycaps Discord.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556080905282650122/628300435324928010/WU_TANG_FOREVER.png?width=867&height=837)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: Crack85 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 21:05:44
Looks good.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: caronte0 on Sun, 06 October 2019, 11:13:23
candykeys post a photo of the hive, is really happening?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: galaxy01 on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:06:16
really digging the color scheme, looks clean!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: SeamansBeard on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:46:48
So in if there is a International Kit!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Sun, 06 October 2019, 16:51:20
candykeys post a photo of the hive, is really happening?

Yes, Hive will happen sometime in the future. Will post an update soon with details
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: eniigma on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:52:03
also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: geekit on Sun, 06 October 2019, 23:11:18
Just parking my interest here.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: piit79 on Mon, 07 October 2019, 00:55:30


also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT

Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:40:32


also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT

Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)
Or could be marketing like PBT Heavy Industry
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:49:39
also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT

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also, is this going to be an ePBT set? the renders say ePBT but the title says PBT

Yeah, also wondering. I'm pretty sure the title used to say ePBT but was edited recently. Doubts about ePBT's reverse dye sub capabilities? ;)

it will not be through ePBT. Just need to update the thread.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: growler on Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:12:22
Oh no, don't tell me it's going to GMK and ABS .....

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: DetectiveNio on Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:16:58
Oh no, don't tell me it's going to GMK and ABS .....

growler

We got Gold Rush for that already  ;D Rather this set stay as PBT (infinikey like Santuary Rebirth maybe?)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:58:58
Oh no, don't tell me it's going to GMK and ABS .....

growler

it is going to be a pbt set, i will announce details before the end of the month.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: nma on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:52:19
Oh man, can't wait for this to launch, love the colours.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: danieljgrouse on Fri, 11 October 2019, 02:04:25
I'm assuming it will be done through Infinikey since they have already proven they can do reverse dyesub really well?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: raptorzoz on Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:48:17
any chance we'll get a norde kit?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: growler on Fri, 11 October 2019, 14:45:02
Got such a boner for this

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: liangalv on Sun, 13 October 2019, 15:25:38
Is there an expected GB date/ Kit Pricing ?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: caronte0 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 04:17:27
Is there an expected GB date/ Kit Pricing ?
there will be more deatils by the end of the month
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: lookid on Sun, 27 October 2019, 01:09:34
Close to end of the month.
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: shoobopper on Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:11:25
rip epbt. def in if this goes through though. u80-a yolk w/ this would be godlike

yellow split spacebar set pls

Also, does anyone know a matching deskpad? If not, a hive novelkeys deskpad would be an instabuy
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: Dungo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 10:15:32
october is nearing its end and i need that update
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive
Post by: ogWalker on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:00:43
Update 10/31

This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: nasp on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:43:15
Is the set kitting gonna be like the other Infinikey sets with one all inclusive base kit - i.e. sanctuary rebirth and bread?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: piit79 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:43:59
Update 10/31

This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Can't wait! Ne EU vendors avail?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: shoobopper on Fri, 01 November 2019, 00:07:12
Can't wait! Deskpad hype! Yellow split spacebar and rama novelty would make this my favorite set oat 👀
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: caronte0 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 06:49:48
Update 10/31

This set will be run on TheKey.Company through InfiniKey. Group Buy will kick off Q1 2020. More renders + deskmat coming soon!
Can't wait! Ne EU vendors avail?
probably candykeys
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Datastream on Fri, 01 November 2019, 09:34:36
Oh **** this is hypeee
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 02 November 2019, 01:06:12
Glad this is set in stone. Need more good pbt sets (pls). If this goes well it opens up lots of possibilities for future sets.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sat, 02 November 2019, 07:26:18
Is the set kitting gonna be like the other Infinikey sets with one all inclusive base kit - i.e. sanctuary rebirth and bread?

We are working with the factory to see how much it will affect price by breaking it into smaller kits. If this works out, it will prove the idea and we will go that way moving forward. The new molds we designed should allow for it. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 02 November 2019, 23:53:31
Are there any plans to add a colevrak/colevrak+ kit to the GB?
That'd make this an insta-buy.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:23:02


We are working with the factory to see how much it will affect price by breaking it into smaller kits. If this works out, it will prove the idea and we will go that way moving forward. The new molds we designed should allow for it. Stay tuned!

Keeping my fingers crossed. I hope it works out and you'll be able to add an ortho kit - too often I miss out on these alternative sets because of lack of compatibility... Would love to get this one!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: shoobopper on Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:30:57
Are there any plans to add a colevrak/colevrak+ kit to the GB?
That'd make this an insta-buy.

seconded. pining for yellow split spacebar as well
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:08:28
double shot?
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 03 November 2019, 11:21:16
double shot?
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Reverse dye-subbed PBT via InfiniKey I believe. Does anyone even do good quality double-shot PBT in cherry profile?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Sun, 03 November 2019, 12:01:59
double shot?
happy with base set, and the color.
plz add 3u in spacebarkit
Reverse dye-subbed PBT via InfiniKey I believe. Does anyone even do good quality double-shot PBT in cherry profile?

Not yet, but in 2020 Infinikey will be able to :-)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: mwahlig on Sun, 03 November 2019, 15:56:56
Are these the final kits or is there still a chance of adding an ortho/40s kit?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: caronte0 on Tue, 05 November 2019, 05:30:41
Are there any plans to add a colevrak/colevrak+ kit to the GB?
That'd make this an insta-buy.

seconded. pining for yellow split spacebar as well
+1
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 05 November 2019, 05:36:11
Are these the final kits or is there still a chance of adding an ortho/40s kit?
Second that, please add an 40s/ortho kit!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Tue, 05 November 2019, 12:08:16
I'm excited for this set. I really hope stays PBT.

The Base Kit looks great, only wish could add a couple white keys to that set. But otherwise, I could swing add-on Monochrome.

Hope the price works out well.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Datastream on Thu, 14 November 2019, 06:19:31
ne updates avail? still got my eye on this beaut
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: KawabataLuis on Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:12:52
Just saw that more renders are incoming. Is it possible to make a render with polaris on the e-yellow colorway? That is my main goal to match, and would really like to see how they'd look together.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: itskitsos on Sun, 01 December 2019, 13:02:29
Ready to buy this one! Can't wait.

Very interested in deskmat design.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Slayer77 on Thu, 05 December 2019, 15:21:39
Ne Asia proxy avail?

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: ogWalker on Thu, 05 December 2019, 16:15:34
Ne Asia proxy avail?

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currently waiting on samples to approve colors, then will announce vendors and gb date
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: kaisn on Thu, 05 December 2019, 18:44:59
Love it. In for sure
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: growler on Sat, 07 December 2019, 06:33:14
Sweet!

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: chris_1865 on Thu, 26 December 2019, 03:50:44
In it. Yellow and black are always the best.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: infinitykw on Fri, 27 December 2019, 00:39:30
OK insta buy here just because the base kit included accented spacebars, which +100000000 for me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Cruxx_. on Fri, 27 December 2019, 04:16:47
currently waiting on samples to approve colors, then will announce vendors and gb date

It's been so long, the wait will kill me :(
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Tennstrong on Sat, 28 December 2019, 05:22:03
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again. 
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: growler on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:10:15
Forgive my ignorance, but if ePBT is better, why not .... just use them? The manufacturer makes money on these runs I'd imagine, so if they can do it, why would any of them say no?

I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: lolafineday on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:13:50
Forgive my ignorance, but if ePBT is better, why not .... just use them? The manufacturer makes money on these runs I'd imagine, so if they can do it, why would any of them say no?

I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.

growler
Because epbt doesnt want to do reverse dye sub. Check out the recent kuro shiro buy.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: growler on Sat, 28 December 2019, 06:15:45
Forgive my ignorance, but if ePBT is better, why not .... just use them? The manufacturer makes money on these runs I'd imagine, so if they can do it, why would any of them say no?

I think this was always going to be PBT, simce ABS looks nice until you use it for a week, so presumably that's why GMK is out as they don't do PBT.

growler
Because epbt doesnt want to do reverse dye sub. Check out the recent kuro shiro buy.

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Makes sense, so current manufacturer makes total sense then it would seem.

Roll on the group buy!

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: jdc122 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 22:12:27
instant buy if this comes out to match my yolk rama board!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 02 January 2020, 22:45:51
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

Have there been issues with Infinikey?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 03 January 2020, 19:44:45
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: ogWalker on Fri, 03 January 2020, 22:25:40
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.

Hi,

I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: rockydbull on Sat, 04 January 2020, 22:55:47
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.

Hi,

I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers

Samples sent from infinikey?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Gtrx on Sat, 11 January 2020, 08:54:20
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

From what I have seen with other sets Epbt had a lot of issues getting reverse dye sub right and are reluctant to take on sets with a ton of it involved. Infinikey on the other hand is attempting reverse dye sub on the regular and is going to improve as sets get run through. Personally, I would rather see this attempted in PBT than see another set go GMK. ABS is meh and GMK prices are insane. No one should have to pay $40+ for a freaking numpad, much less an UK iso set.

Hi,

I am currently having samples sent to me so I can see the dyesub quality in hand, but from the sample pictures it looked pretty good. Also planning on making one big base kit as opposed to having many child kits. Once the final kits are decided upon I'll post updates here. cheers

Samples sent from infinikey?

yes
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: hammerbrotha on Sat, 11 January 2020, 17:11:49
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: d00deitsnik on Sat, 11 January 2020, 22:57:12
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.

I see what you did there... "heard they sound much worse..." Nice.

I honestly haven't heard a comparison of ePBT and Infinikey tho. What makes them have such a different sound? Plastic density?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 23:15:05
Considering the recent issues with infinikey's consistency, it's rather disappointing to see this set go from the golden standard of consistency (GMK), then to a mid-ground of quality and consistency (ePBT), to where it is now. If this was going through ePBT I was probably going to be onboard after pricing, even though I'd likely prefer GMK above all. For now though, this is a pass due to the manufacturer. All signs seem to point to this being a middle of the road manu, and with their new prices getting near that of ePBT, I will be undoubtedly passing for that reason. If you could get this back to a more reliable/consistent manufacturer, I'd be interested again.

Agree 100% with all your points above. I have heard infinikey pbt keycaps sound much worse than epbt. This is gonna be a pass for me as well.

Haven't seen/heard anything about them sounding "much worse", curious where that came from.

As well molds were updated since katakana was ran (as seen with the newer CandyBar sets) so any comparison would be off for any future sets anyways. I will have my candybar set sent fairly soon and have an ePBT set I can compare to on a board but honestly I don't see how they would be much different beyond just thickness of the caps given they are both PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: shoobopper on Sat, 18 January 2020, 19:40:08
Just got the newsletter from The Key Company which included a PBT Hive announcement! For those interested, the listing is posted here: https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive (https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive)

It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(

EDIT: I meant no split yellow spacebar
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:14:32
Just got the newsletter from The Key Company which included a PBT Hive announcement! For those interested, the listing is posted here: https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive (https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive)

It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(
That's InfiniKey for you. I'm surprised we didn't hear about this here first...

There are yellow spacebars in the Mega kit, are they not PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: SteffeMK on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:16:25
Is there a EU proxy or only tkc?

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 19 January 2020, 01:26:17
Just got the newsletter from The Key Company which included a PBT Hive announcement! For those interested, the listing is posted here: https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive (https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-hive)

It's a shame that the kits were merged together and no yellow pbt spacebar though :'(
Agree, they also removed icon mod kit. They are putting the spacebar in Mega Kit and Yellow Accent in Novelty Kit. I dont think I ever need that much key for 60% layout.

Sorry, but I dont think this will a great buy.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: eskimojo on Sun, 19 January 2020, 02:16:37
The large kits are due to Infinikey's very large MOQ for all kits - child kits have a MOQ of 300 from what I've heard. The core kits are a new thing TKC are trying out to provide more basic compatibility at a lower price. It's worth noting that the "mega" kit will likely be around $120 and the core kit will be around $70-80, based on previous sets/statements.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: growler on Sun, 19 January 2020, 02:25:19
Only way to get a yellow spacebar is the mega kit? Also, no render of the novelty kit, so not 100pct sure what's in that....

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: VXQN on Mon, 20 January 2020, 04:26:54
What colour is the base kit? In some pictures/renders it looks black/grey but in others there's a definite blue tint...
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Update
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 20 January 2020, 12:03:20
Coo, will be buying into this. From previous experience Im not really concerned about Infinikey provided the cost isnt crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: ogWalker on Mon, 20 January 2020, 21:16:10
Update January 20th, 2020



Group Buy Starts January 24th!

Super excited for this, we have done some super dope stuff for the set that we hope you will enjoy!

-walker
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: itskitsos on Mon, 20 January 2020, 22:38:24
My body is ready.

Deskmat tho?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: MrFurrior on Tue, 21 January 2020, 02:13:38
I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Datastream on Tue, 21 January 2020, 04:56:34
I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.

So much this. I want that spacebar but don't want to pay for the others in that kit...
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: KuroTheCrazy on Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:19:33
I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.

From the TKC discord:

Quote
the only reason it happened here was because for some random reason before they left for CNY they sent us a quote for hive, we had looked at it and even though novelties were included in the mega photos they had done it separately.
We don't wanna push the buy back more weeks because of an issue as simple as quotes missing
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: helborne on Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:46:06
i'd love to see some smaller yellow spacebars for split builds, 2.75, 2.25, maybe a 1.5.  In for this whether they happen or not.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: infinitykw on Tue, 21 January 2020, 20:40:04
Cant believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol.  Out
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: growler on Tue, 21 January 2020, 21:52:48
Cant believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol.  Out
I get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 21 January 2020, 23:39:09
Cant believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol.  Out
I get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...

growler
I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: growler on Tue, 21 January 2020, 23:54:48
Cant believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol.  Out
I get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...

growler
I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.

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I certainly would be! Maybe throw in a funky escape key as well.

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 22 January 2020, 12:55:45
Cant believe the only way to get accent spacebar is to buy the maga kit, and you miss accent esc and enter if you only buy a mega kit, so you need to also get a novelty kit lol.  Out
I get MOQs are high, but is the current setup really the best way to organise the kits? A lot of people seem to think this is quite badly thought out ...

growler
I think most people would be happy if they add the yellow bars to core kit and bump price by 10$ or so.

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I certainly would be! Maybe throw in a funky escape key as well.

growler

I'm disappointed with the novelties kit, there's quite a few duplicates from the base and the only one most people will want is the space bar.

From the TKC discord:

Quote
the only reason it happened here was because for some random reason before they left for CNY they sent us a quote for hive, we had looked at it and even though novelties were included in the mega photos they had done it separately.
We don't wanna push the buy back more weeks because of an issue as simple as quotes missing

So, hoping the kits will change seems to be in vain.

For myself it's not a big deal, idc about the yellow spacebar and just want the hive looking one. Buying a couple extra keys doesn't matter, we are spending hundreds on keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Meerccy on Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:21:25
This was a safe purchase from me until the kits were updated. I don't want to have to pay too much and have keys that I will never use just to get the yellow space. In addition I will also have to buy the novelties that are repeated for $ 25 no thanks
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:43:17
It does seem like an odd combo. Which is too bad. Seems like a lot. And I like this better than gmk honey. Big fan of PBT.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: TalksToChalk on Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:22:38
Does the Core Kit come with a 2u Shift Key? I cant tell from the photos. It seems it comes with 2X 2.25u shift keys but that seems redundant to me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 20:12:35
It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...

I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200124/d28793241752570547623b09db623a17.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 23 January 2020, 20:25:25
Does the Core Kit come with a 2u Shift Key? I cant tell from the photos. It seems it comes with 2X 2.25u shift keys but that seems redundant to me.

Core doesn't contain 2u shift. Including 2 2.25u shifts is for 660 layout coverage.

(https://imgur.com/7GbtiW7.png)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:12:57
It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...

I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.
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I mean its not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK youd have to buy 3 kits.

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:18:11
It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...

I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.
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I mean its not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK youd have to buy 3 kits.
But not having the accent space bar in base kit is kinda crappy. A real miss imo.

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:24:38
It's crazy that to get this combo requires buying the mega, monochrome and novelties kits. I'd have enough keys left over for 2 more keyboards that I'd rather put different keys on. Mechmarket is going to be a mess with everyone selling their trash...

I want it, but I just don't think I can, unless its dirt cheap.
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I mean its not really that crazy... you want a secondary alpha color and a secondary spacebar color, with most GMK youd have to buy 3 kits.
But not having the accent space bar in base kit is kinda crappy. A real miss imo.

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Accent spacebar is quite often not in base, it's not exactly a common thing. It has also already been covered that the mega kit and novelties were meant to be one kit.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Thu, 23 January 2020, 21:40:32
Hey Guys!

Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.

For TKC only, if you order the MEGA Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.

We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Slayer77 on Thu, 23 January 2020, 22:50:46
Hey Guys!

Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.

For TKC only, if you order the Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.

We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
Shame it's tkc only. Why do we as consumers suffer from purchasing from a proxy because we live in another part of the world

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: neutralstate on Thu, 23 January 2020, 23:35:03
How thick will the keycaps be?
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 00:16:00
How thick will the keycaps be?

~1.4mm which is the same as ePBT (measured both just now)
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: growler on Fri, 24 January 2020, 00:18:42
Hey Guys!

Just to cover a few things, first of all, big unfortunate mistake with the Novelties not being in base that unfortunately would have taken weeks to fix as they gave me the quote the day before CNY was slated to start so I would have had to wait on another quote that would have taken about 3 weeks to reproduce, so we've tried to compromise just a little bit.

For TKC only, if you order the Base set along with the novelties/accent kit, you will get 15$ off of the Novelty order. This makes the novelties cost 10$ total.

We hope this at least fixes the problem a tiny bit and shows that we are always listening to you guys and trying to provide the best service possible. Apologies again and thank you for your support of our business.
That's a decent offer

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Ahrimofnor on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:29:39
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:36:59
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.

Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:52:35
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.
Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.

But Taihao isn't doing reverse dye-subbing... and doesn't offer nearly the compatibility/customization you're requesting...

Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.

If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH.  I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:06:52
Splitting the monochrome alpha's from core/ mega kits is rough, even after tkc's kind gesture. Decent looking set, but I'd rather buy a new keyboard for the price of the caps.
Haha, that's the thing right? At this point there's so many sweet boards on the horizon, the urge to throw on cheap Taihao PBTs is just so tempting. I'll still keep an eye on this though, and see if I can work it in. TKC's deal makes it a little more bearable.

But Taihao isn't doing reverse dye-subbing... and doesn't offer nearly the compatibility/customization you're requesting...

Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.

If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH.  I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.

Eh, it's just an opinion, I've spent twice as much on keysets I thought looked more interesting. This is a pretty basic looking one (imo). Doesn't make it a bad set, I still really like it, but it is money I could apply elsewhere. Clearly TKC took feedback from this forum, and gave a little boost to help convince people to buy in. Sharing opinions is always valuable.

It's a forum, people share opinions, negative and positive. That's kind of the point. No need to defend, can just accept and carry on. These being keysets, I imagine a lot of the "value" people are determining here has less to do with keys/$ and more to do with aesthetic, and very subjective.

My personal issue is that there's little accent caps in each set that I want, but don't want to have to buy every set. Accents could have been moved to a separate pack, or the core and mega could have at least had the same accent keys mixed in.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: TalksToChalk on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:11:54
Such a weird decision to separate the yellow keys into two separate (but complete) sets. I could kit out two keyboards if I bought the mega, and the core.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: sonicdoooom on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:19:16
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Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.

If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH.  I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.

I think you missed the part where he mentioned you had to buy the Mega kit to receive the discount. So that's $125 for mega, +35 for mono, +10 for novelties(-15$ discount). $170 total

It would have been one hell of deal had the discount applied to the core set as well.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:29:49
Quote
Base ($80) + Monochrome ($35) = $115, add in Novelties ($25) and it's $125 (with TKC discount -$10). I'm having a hard time thinking of a comparable keyset that offers 2 alpha kits and like a million compatibility keys with novelties in reverse dye-subbed pbt at that price.

If the argument is $125 is too much for any keyset then OK, but I don't think there's much joy to be found on the GB keyset threads on GH.  I'm not trying to shoot down any criticism of this keyset, but I'm just not understanding the motivation for some of the negative feedback.

I think you missed the part where he mentioned you had to buy the Mega kit to receive the discount. So that's $125 for mega, +35 for mono, +10 for novelties(-15$ discount). $170 total

It would have been one hell of deal had the discount applied to the core set as well.

TKC updated their post to add "MEGA" before "Base", my original post was thinking Base = Core.

You're right, with the Mega it's not as good a deal. You'd be getting a ****-ton of keys.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:07:15
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.

we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.

This will translate to proxies as well.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 January 2020, 14:08:44
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.

we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.
Mad props. TKC for the win!

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Meerccy on Fri, 24 January 2020, 15:38:40
It was not easier to leave everything as before, because this last minute change
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 24 January 2020, 22:08:46
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.

we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.

This will translate to proxies as well.
Thanks alot!

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Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: growler on Fri, 24 January 2020, 22:27:21
Is this available to order from candykeys? It's on the site, but doesn't seem possible to buy it...

growler

Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:43:41
Is this available to order from candykeys? It's on the site, but doesn't seem possible to buy it...

growler



Hey my friend, it should be, but most of the proxies work on different time frames so it should be available in the next 2-3 days
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Liub on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:46:11
Still waiting for ILUMKB also.
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: Ahrimofnor on Fri, 24 January 2020, 23:57:43
Alright guys, we've been listening. And we think this is a fine change.

we're completely dropping novelty cost to 12$, regardless of what kit you purchase.

This will translate to proxies as well.

Bless your heart. Still a shame about no yellow spacebar in core kit but will probably end up picking this up.

Appreciate all you're doing!
Title: Re: [IC] PBT Hive - Group Buy January 24th!
Post by: neutralstate on Sat, 25 January 2020, 03:03:15
How thick will the keycaps be?

~1.4mm which is the same as ePBT (measured both just now)

thank you!