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Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | May 1st - June 2nd!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 25 October 2019, 12:47:01
(https://i.imgur.com/LTQlK0q.png)

Hello everyone, I'm excited to introduce
GMK Masterpiece マスターピース

Group Buy thread is up HERE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106068.0)

Inspiration

(https://i.imgur.com/guE9fcB.png)

The inspiration for this set comes from the Japanese high quality craftsmanship. Japanese craftsmanship is handmade and created by people using skills passed down for generations to ensure only the best quality product - a true masterpiece. With that spirit in mind I designed a keycap set, capturing the unique aesthetics of the Japanese culture. The Katakana legends will give the set a very unique look, paired with a beautiful rich blue.


Design

This will be the very first GMK set with Katakana only alphas and mods. So new molds will be created for this set. Because of GMK's limited offering of stock blue colours, this set will be using a custom blue (RAL). The Katakana legends are as you noticed not narrow as the Hiragana mono/sublegends and Katakana sublegends. Instead, the Katakana monolegends are wider to offer a similar look to the latin/cyrillic counterpart. They look like they came straight from GMK. The Katakana-only mods are completely new, my own creation, and were inspired by various old boards. I wanted a more consistent look for the keyset as a whole as the Kanji were left out completely. The keyset has traditional icon mods and text+icon mods, and I think this solution will satisfy nearly every person. I also included all keys for a true ISO and proper ISO Japanese layout (R4 ロ) unlike past sets with japanese legends. The layout was designed on the basis of today's Mac keyboards in Japan but without the JIS bottom row.
Example 1 (https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MLA22J?wid=1144&hei=1144&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_usm=0.5%2C0.5&.v=1496943883242) Example 2 (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6643b9868c6b9e8dee790a72448664e9-c) Example 3 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/dotclue.org/kybard.jpg) Example 4 (https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MRMH2J?wid=2000&hei=2000&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_usm=0.5,0.5&.v=1520717502224)



Kits

バリュー VALUE

(https://i.imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)

クラリティ CLARITY

(https://i.imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)

プレサビング PRESERVING

(https://i.imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)

ウェスト WEST

(https://i.imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)


Renders

J80 by jer
(https://i.imgur.com/6Kz5fjb.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/bOESQdW.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DxQKpDY.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4ofaa2K.png)

KBDfans KBD19x
(https://i.imgur.com/DLDR5FB.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/BPRARN7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/paQrw3C.png)

RAMA Koyu
(https://i.imgur.com/M5XFyYM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1rdJz0e.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1oTfyNP.png)

KBDfans Tofu
(https://i.imgur.com/Ny4zXl5.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/RLjajAV.png)

HEX.3C https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104597.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104597.0)
(https://i.imgur.com/CcED1Et.png)


Deskmats

ウェイブ WAVE

(https://imgur.com/yGb0XJz.png)

エンドゲーム ENDGAME

(https://i.imgur.com/uGlN6pa.png)

スクウェア SQUARE

(https://i.imgur.com/1wY4JQv.png)


Collaborations

RAMA x Masterpiece

ナイフ KNIFE

Get the tools of traditional japanese craftsmen on your keyboard made of finest brass. The shape is reminiscent of a tried and tested blade, or a chisel. You decide.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/pfN9uI9.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eXUbs12.png)

Black PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/dDxElSa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6LGVPW.png)

マスター MASTER

Get yourself the spirit of a true skilled master on your keyboard.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/KhfRgWt.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KdoFCFW.png)

Zeuscables x Masterpiece

ライト LIGHT

(https://i.imgur.com/mA2FjD2.jpg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/CzkP5oF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xIgIfJX.jpg)


ダーク DARK

(https://i.imgur.com/43yEHn3.jpg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/41627DX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nVoLLKv.jpg)


https://www.zeuscables.store/masterpiece (https://www.zeuscables.store/masterpiece)



Group Buy

Group Buy thread is up HERE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106068.0)


Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/RpCjUbn.png)

Group Buy goes live May 1st!



A Discord channel is available for feedback and further discussion here https://discord.gg/xBUCEgq (https://discord.gg/xBUCEgq)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: dexie on Fri, 25 October 2019, 12:53:23
Rad

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Rensuya on Fri, 25 October 2019, 12:53:41
Very nice, I'll be 100% in on this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: senryo on Fri, 25 October 2019, 12:55:33
I think adding white accents into tradition kit would be nice as the sole purpose of it is to replace the icon mods in the first place; or correct me if I’m wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 25 October 2019, 12:57:10
Count me in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:00:33
 :-*   :-\
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: nguyenhimself on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:10:52
Nice to see GMK stepping up with pure-Katakana mods now that EnjoyPBT Kuro/Shiro (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101576) is shipping soon.

That said, you might want to consider:
1. Keep the "num + symbol" row in tact. Many people will have problem typing the symbols.
2. Considering how text mods have always been more popular than icon mods, you might as well put the Katakana mods in the base kit and make a separate icon mod kit.
3. How about going the last extra mile and use Katakana for the rest of the keys (Enter, nav cluster, etc) like Kuro/Shiro?
4. One selfish thing: No numpad in base kit please and thank you? :)

(https://i.imgur.com/Km8io21.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:13:25
How close is the blue here to the one from Space Cadet? Just curious because from the renders it looks fairly similar (this is not criticism, I think the blue from SC is lovely).

Great set!
Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:16:06
If many people have problems typing symbols in the numrow, they’ll need to learn step up their keyboard game


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:25:47
If many people have problems typing symbols in the numrow, they’ll need to learn step yo their keyboard game


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This is some pretentious, neckbeard, gatekeeping ****. And I stand behind it entirely
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:40:07
Swap base mods for tradition kit and you got yourself a winner.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:40:55
let me know if you want to work on deskmats for this set
adxlk | git.dracula#3587
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: orim23 on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:17:14
If many people have problems typing symbols in the numrow, they’ll need to learn step yo their keyboard game


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This is some pretentious, neckbeard, gatekeeping ****. And I stand behind it entirely
yes. all in or nothing at all!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:18:11
I think adding white accents into tradition kit would be nice as the sole purpose of it is to replace the icon mods in the first place; or correct me if I’m wrong.

I could consider that if the demand is there. They won't affect the price much.

How close is the blue here to the one from Space Cadet? Just curious because from the renders it looks fairly similar (this is not criticism, I think the blue from SC is lovely).

Great set!

Thanks for the compliment! I appreciate it :D
I personally do not own a GMK Space Cadet set. And since this set was matched to a Signature Plastic SA set, I can't compare Space Cadet's blue to this blue tone. But I do own GMK Striker and it will be brighter and less purple than Striker's blue.


2. Considering how text mods have always been more popular than icon mods, you might as well put the Katakana mods in the base kit and make a separate icon mod kit.
3. How about going the last extra mile and use Katakana for the rest of the keys (Enter, nav cluster, etc) like Kuro/Shiro?
4. One selfish thing: No numpad in base kit please and thank you? :)


Swap base mods for tradition kit and you got yourself a winner.

I have already tested it putting on Katakana font onto a 1u key. The problem here is you can't insert more than 4 Katakana characters on the little 1u key if you want to keep the same font size as of the rest of the set. E.g. the page down translation into Katakana would be ペジダウン. That's already 5 characters and it would be 1 too much to fit onto the 1u key. If you compare the コード keys from the Enjoypbt Kuro Shiro set, you can clearly see different font sizes were used. He cheated a little bit for the コード to fit in. That's the main reason why I didn't include 1u Katakana keys therefore I can't use Katakana on the Nav Cluster. Priority is consistency, otherwise it would look weird. I have tested it on many renders before.

I could offer a 60% compatible base kit with Katakana only but this would cut half of the market off and it wouldn't include 1u mod keys. So rather a complete set then with icon mods.

(https://imgur.com/toZgYuN.png)

And btw Enjoypbt Kuro Shiro Nav Cluster consists mostly of Kanji (Chinese Symbols) and not Katakana
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:23:54
I'm generally not into Japanese legends, but I will make an exception for a set that goes "all icons" and then GOES "all icons".

My only gripe would be that the Backspace symbol is a left-pointing arrow instead of the ⌫ symbol (while Delete IS ⌦ ).

Heck, I could buy two sets of the "value" kit and then sell off the alphas from one, so I'll get a full set of mods...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: ja.ze on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:25:29
I've always been bothered by the F row being totally out of place with the rest of the characters, but that seems to be the case with most Hiragana/katakana sets.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:26:21
This is slick. Totally in on all kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: hansikhouse on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:32:50
A stunner. This might be my first monochrome set  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:36:46
I've always been bothered by the F row being totally out of place with the rest of the characters, but that seems to be the case with most Hiragana/katakana sets.

Perhaps the F1..F12 legends could be replaced with circled numbers (①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧⑨⑩⑪⑫ — see Unicode U+2460 through U+246B ); that way, no single Latin letter would remain in the keycap set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: chanzjj on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:40:10
I find it odd that the number row uses katakana legends but the numpad uses arabic numerals. Is it possible for numpad to use katakana legends as well?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: switchnollie on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:45:49
Those mods are out of this world :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: eas on Fri, 25 October 2019, 15:28:05
I love this.

And I'd also love a kit for Preonic support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:31:51
Thanks for the compliment! I appreciate it :D
I personally do not own a GMK Space Cadet set. And since this set was matched to a Signature Plastic SA set, I can't compare Space Cadet's blue to this blue tone. But I do own GMK Striker and it will be brighter and less purple than Striker's blue.

Sounds about right - fantastic. Thanks clarifying!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: terrad on Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:36:12
Nice! I think it would look really good with "whiteout" alphas (basically if the alphas were the same as the white accents). Maybe that could be an additional kit?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: harlekein on Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:41:29
Please add some 1u keys for ortho support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 25 October 2019, 17:08:24
I find it odd that the number row uses katakana legends but the numpad uses arabic numerals. Is it possible for numpad to use katakana legends as well?

The Katakana legends on the number row correspond to letters, not numbers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: rondg on Fri, 25 October 2019, 17:53:06
YES!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: NAV on Fri, 25 October 2019, 18:32:48
Holy ****, I ****ing love this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: piit79 on Fri, 25 October 2019, 18:34:34
Can we get an ortho kit with full Preonic support, please? :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Ensaum on Fri, 25 October 2019, 18:38:26
I like this. I too would like white accents in the tradition kit and it may look even better with pure katakana mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:13:28
Can we get an ortho kit with full Preonic support, please? :)

Seconded. Really need an ortho kit, even if they're just blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:18:23
This is weeb af, and I love it! Can we go all the way and replace F1-F12 with Japanese characters?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: jebbra on Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:41:06
Count me in. Hopefully the blue is an old-washed-traditional-indigo like what I had in my head.

A suggestion about numpad (or any numbers): to keep the mood consistent—if no any representative character, how about using dots used on Carbon R2 Rolling Bones kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Willhurt2008 on Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:53:10
I'm buying this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: orangesoh on Fri, 25 October 2019, 20:10:43
Will get this too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: architones on Fri, 25 October 2019, 20:49:04
That's a really nice and pleasant blue color. Definitely keeping an eye on this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: slxdegrees on Fri, 25 October 2019, 22:30:04
All in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: NotYeMK on Fri, 25 October 2019, 22:48:55
I really want to get this set. I hope the GB time starts before the end of november so I can get it before I ship out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Fri, 25 October 2019, 23:15:02
All icon mod sets are the best but the mixed alignments are kinda meh. Continue with the 8008/9009 trend and use the fixed legends and also, if it's not too much trouble, fix the nav cluster legends as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: saint_james on Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:26:49
Looks great! Very interested.  Now I just need to find a similar set with Hiragana monolegends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 26 October 2019, 10:50:21
FAQ (from the feedback form)

Accent colors in the Tradition kit?
Yes they will be added soon

Alice support?
Yes, use the R4 ロ for the B and the R1 ー for the replacement of the R1 ロ

Dvorak, Colemak?
Yes, this is the perfect set for you since most people will touch type.

Colors?
Will be released when the group buy starts.

Ortho?
I am still considering about adding a little ortho kit. But I need the demand for this kit. Since a 100 MOQ is not easy to achieve.

How about GMK Triumph Adler numbers ①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧⑨①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧⑨⑩⑪⑫?
They exist only as R0 forms. Therefore, at least 12 new custom molds must be produced. However, I do not want to increase the price any further. If the set would look much better, that wouldn't be a problem, but i personally don't like these circled numbers paired with Katakana.

Replace F1 to F12 with Japanese characters?
Japanese mainly use Arabic numerals, but Kanji exist for numbers. However, I would like to keep this key set Kanji free.

White alphas?
Tough question, maybe at a later point

Norde Kit?
Yes, it's included
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 26 October 2019, 10:52:14
All icon mod sets are the best but the mixed alignments are kinda meh. Continue with the 8008/9009 trend and use the fixed legends and also, if it's not too much trouble, fix the nav cluster legends as well.

I understand your concerns about the mixed alignments. Though, most people are still used to the traditional icon position while not everyone agrees with the new 9009 icon position. If I would also fix the nav cluster that would be 11 new molds that GMK probably won't support. Getting quite expensive huh? Another reason is the misalignment from the arrow cluster. The ↓ is too low compared to the imaginary horizontal line in the bottom row. However, you can still use the icon+text shift and a 1u icon since 1u icons are centered if it bothers you.

(https://imgur.com/HDErLci.png)

This is weeb af, and I love it! Can we go all the way and replace F1-F12 with Japanese characters?

I'm glad you like it ;D
Japanese mainly use Arabic numerals, but Kanji exist for numbers. Anyway, I would like to keep this key set Kanji free. Every modern japanese keyboard with a function row does have F1-F12. If you have a better idea let me know.


I've always been bothered by the F row being totally out of place with the rest of the characters, but that seems to be the case with most Hiragana/katakana sets.

Perhaps the F1..F12 legends could be replaced with circled numbers (①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧⑨⑩⑪⑫ — see Unicode U+2460 through U+246B ); that way, no single Latin letter would remain in the keycap set.

Take a look at the FAQ

Count me in. Hopefully the blue is an old-washed-traditional-indigo like what I had in my head.

A suggestion about numpad (or any numbers): to keep the mood consistent—if no any representative character, how about using dots used on Carbon R2 Rolling Bones kit?

I will release colors when the group buy starts to assure you don't buy a keyset with a false impression.
Those dots don't really appeal me and they remind me of dominos. But thanks for your suggestion though. I appreciate it  :thumb:


Please add some 1u keys for ortho support.

See FAQ
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 26 October 2019, 11:23:48
Or how about just usual number for R1 numrow? Even when I do touchtype sometimes I lost in that top number lol. But if the real japanese keyboard use that numrow for typing katakana too, well that can’t be helped then.

All in all, this got me hooked already :thumb: (ortho/dox kit will be huge plus tho)

This is just a general question: are there anyone beside me who use the left 2u/2.25u on alice as alt/ctrl/cmd instead of the usual spacebar (I place the spacebar on the right of it—1u/1.25u)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Bruzur on Sat, 26 October 2019, 12:51:44
This is brilliant. I'm definitely interested.
Not particularly crazy about the color choice, but I'll make it work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Sat, 26 October 2019, 12:55:37
All icon mod sets are the best but the mixed alignments are kinda meh. Continue with the 8008/9009 trend and use the fixed legends and also, if it's not too much trouble, fix the nav cluster legends as well.

I understand your concerns about the mixed alignments. Though, most people are still used to the traditional icon position while not everyone agrees with the new 9009 icon position. If I would also fix the nav cluster that would be 11 new molds that GMK probably won't support. Getting quite expensive huh? Another reason is the misalignment from the arrow cluster. The ↓ is too low compared to the imaginary horizontal line in the bottom row. However, you can still use the icon+text shift and a 1u icon since 1u icons are centered if it bothers you.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HDErLci.png)
I can understand where you are coming from when it comes to mold costs. I do disagree in regards to you saying the arrows are misaligned in that pic, though there's not really a point in discussing that further if you as the designer don't like the look of the left-center aligned arrows.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 26 October 2019, 15:46:56
I personally think that the discussion about traditional icon positions vs. new icon positions is a bit silly because the difference is marginal. I like the way they are now and at the same time I wanted to satisfy as many people as possible. I can't run 3 base kits like Oblitzky did with GMK Oblivion ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 26 October 2019, 16:49:33
The "old" shift key icon locations match the placement of the alpha legends better (both are top left justified). OG icons are better thought out than people generally realize, but I'm glad designers are given more choices.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: norb on Sat, 26 October 2019, 17:33:10
japanese mods?

(https://www.askideas.com/media/73/Gentlemen-you-had-my-curiosity%E2%80%A6-but-now-you-have-my-attention.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: KawabataLuis on Sat, 26 October 2019, 20:12:44
Really interested in this set. Can definitely count me in. There are several things people are commenting about, but the only thing I think I would ask is to put an accent colored enter key on the Tradition kit, not only the blue version.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 26 October 2019, 21:30:16
could you add a r1 katakana key to the tradition set for esc so ppl can avoid using icon mods if they'd like
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: harlekein on Sun, 27 October 2019, 01:21:10
Not interested in buying base + 40s kit, even though that's the trend now, so I'll pass.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 27 October 2019, 02:29:36
Not interested in buying base + 40s kit, even though that's the trend now, so I'll pass.
What else would you want to buy - Alphas + 40s? You know that's simply not doable in GMK, right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: harlekein on Sun, 27 October 2019, 02:33:31
Not interested in buying base + 40s kit, even though that's the trend now, so I'll pass.
What else would you want to buy - Alphas + 40s? You know that's simply not doable in GMK, right?
40s in base or separate alphas+ortho/40s/ergo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 27 October 2019, 02:47:06
40s in base or separate alphas+ortho/40s/ergo.

40s in base - everyone else will hate you for a massive base kit
Separate 40s base kit - would take sales away from the standard base kit. There's probably a reason why nobody did it but Oblotzky with Oblivion V2 which sold sh*tloads of kits
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: harlekein on Sun, 27 October 2019, 02:47:44


40s in base or separate alphas+ortho/40s/ergo.

40s in base - everyone else will hate you for a massive base kit
Separate 40s base kit - would take sales away from the standard base kit. There's probably a reason why nobody did it but Oblotzky with Oblivion V2 which sold sh*tloads of kits
[/quote]Others did do it, including GMK Dots.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sun, 27 October 2019, 02:57:53


2. Considering how text mods have always been more popular than icon mods, you might as well put the Katakana mods in the base kit and make a separate icon mod kit.
3. How about going the last extra mile and use Katakana for the rest of the keys (Enter, nav cluster, etc) like Kuro/Shiro?
4. One selfish thing: No numpad in base kit please and thank you? :)


Swap base mods for tradition kit and you got yourself a winner.

I have already tested it putting on Katakana font onto a 1u key. The problem here is you can't insert more than 4 Katakana characters on the little 1u key if you want to keep the same font size as of the rest of the set. E.g. the page down translation into Katakana would be ペジダウン. That's already 5 characters and it would be 1 too much to fit onto the 1u key. If you compare the コード keys from the Enjoypbt Kuro Shiro set, you can clearly see different font sizes were used. He cheated a little bit for the コード to fit in. That's the main reason why I didn't include 1u Katakana keys therefore I can't use Katakana on the Nav Cluster. Priority is consistency, otherwise it would look weird. I have tested it on many renders before.

I could offer a 60% compatible base kit with Katakana only but this would cut half of the market off and it wouldn't include 1u mod keys. So rather a complete set then with icon mods.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/toZgYuN.png)


And btw Enjoypbt Kuro Shiro Nav Cluster consists mostly of Kanji (Chinese Symbols) and not Katakana

wouldn't the solution to that be to do two rows like you use for the 1.5 backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 27 October 2019, 03:32:41
1 complaint: Shift key with icon and text looks horrible in Tradition. Consider making them text-only?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece
Post by: Emir on Sun, 27 October 2019, 06:52:08
Traditional icon mods? I support this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering huge Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sun, 27 October 2019, 08:18:38
Update:
New Google Form, I am considering huge changes to the Value and Tradition kit. Please fill out the new Google Form

Tradition kit into the Value kit? Very important! Please fill out Google Form #2 (https://forms.gle/7kMKY1DAwffxB6cDA)

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 27 October 2019, 16:31:14
Please don’t make huge changes. Just those icons. 😉
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 27 October 2019, 16:42:30
Yeah - just switch modifyers and i‘m totally in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: dom on Sun, 27 October 2019, 16:50:18
Love the colors.
I would love to see English alphas as a separate kit, so everyone can buy this.

xoxo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:05:42
I think the way to go is have an alpha kit, katakana mod kit and icon kit. Let ppl decide what they want.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Willhurt2008 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 02:29:21
I love the icons in base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: vi0till on Mon, 28 October 2019, 02:35:58
I love the icons in base
+1 vote to maintain icon mod in base kit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: vicissitude on Mon, 28 October 2019, 08:11:32
Wow.
So cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 08:12:14
I love the icons in base
+1 vote to maintain icon mod in base kit

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+1!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 28 October 2019, 12:34:39
Nice

Tradition mods needs to be in the base. Icon mods can be in or out. Base kit without the tradition mods defeats the whole purpose of the set.

Icons should just be thrown out to be completely honest. Bottom row icons is goddamn attrocious. So is Nav cluster, but in this particular set it can slide since there's no other way around it in terms of not using standard English text there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: CodeMayhem on Mon, 28 October 2019, 20:01:17
Nice

Tradition mods needs to be in the base. Icon mods can be in or out. Base kit without the tradition mods defeats the whole purpose of the set.

Icons should just be thrown out to be completely honest. Bottom row icons is goddamn attrocious. So is Nav cluster, but in this particular set it can slide since there's no other way around it in terms of not using standard English text there.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Mon, 28 October 2019, 20:04:54
I would switch Tradition into based kit and move icons either to a separate kit or remove them.  The Aesthetic is much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 30 October 2019, 18:10:53
First off, thank you for all the amazing feedback. You are all really great and I appreciate it. I took the time to go through every single feedback. Your opinions were heard. Unfortunately I can't realize all your wishes, because it's simply impossible, but I'll do it as best as I can. In the last few days I've been working on the kits and collaborating with Dixie creating the Katakana Alphas in order reduce the costs for the Value kit. He helps me by running a Katakana Alpha as child kit for an other upcoming GMK set. I think this is the best solution to give me the opportunity to make the Value kit full of Katakana mods or to make the current Value kit cheaper. Either way, this only offers advantages.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 30 October 2019, 18:42:24
Think about adding white modifiers as an add-on?

I feel that would separate this from other all-blue sets out there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 30 October 2019, 18:58:50
I am planning to add an Icon kit with white accents if I go with full Katakana mods. But I didn't thought about the white mods before. How do you want the white mods to look like? With icons or with Katakana? I need to test them on renders first to see the rather unusual colorway. But I like that idea
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: ideus on Wed, 30 October 2019, 19:42:29
Colored me interested in the mod set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 30 October 2019, 20:57:51
I am planning to add an Icon kit with white accents if I go with full Katakana mods. But I didn't thought about the white mods before. How do you want the white mods to look like? With icons or with Katakana? I need to test them on renders first to see the rather unusual colorway. But I like that idea

The white you used for the accent would be nice as it is.

I would go for full Katakana because weeb.

If you could do this, I would be 100% interested since I love the color combination you chose with this specific blue.

The set looks like a weeb blue cadet to me otherwise.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: nickaster1 on Wed, 30 October 2019, 22:01:17
Yes. Just yes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Zilleon on Fri, 01 November 2019, 01:38:54
Amazing set! Very excited to see it! I'm in 100%!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 01 November 2019, 03:51:38
Vote for traditional in the base  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Mon, 04 November 2019, 13:54:45
White accents with Katakana would look pretty slick and fit the aesthetic.  I think I'd probably go for the straight blue look myself, but it would be weird for everything to be Katakana except the accent key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 04 November 2019, 16:47:02
Update: I would like to inform you that all venders are now known, and the Group Buy will not be far in the future. It was important to me that the GB should start as soon as possible and not sometime in the summer next year. Therefore it took longer with the US Vendor than with others because most US vendors are pretty booked for GMK sets. Group Buy will be in Q1 2020

Thanks to your valueable feedback I have finally decided to include the Tradition mods in the Value kit and offer the icon mods as a separate kit. Since the Katakana Alphas molds now exist with GMK Terra, the price will remain affordable. Here is the result of the Google form with the question "Tradition kit into Base kit and icon mods into a separate kit?" Your explanations to the decision were really helpful and helped me to decide a lot. I didn't expect to receive so many answers.

(https://imgur.com/evsBMT4.png)

You can see that most of you prefer Katakana mods, which is understandable, because it is very unique and has never existed before. I am working on the Japanese mods and I think it might take a few weeks until it's ready. Have some patience!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Considering Base kit changes! New Google Form!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 04 November 2019, 16:51:54
White accents with Katakana would look pretty slick and fit the aesthetic.  I think I'd probably go for the straight blue look myself, but it would be weird for everything to be Katakana except the accent key.

There will be definitely white Katakana accent keys in the Base kit. You don't need to worry about that
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 04 November 2019, 23:13:46
Thanks to your valueable feedback I have finally decided to include the Tradition mods in the Value kit and to offer the icon mods as a separate kit.

Awesome change! Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 05 November 2019, 07:21:49
Will you drop the icons from the katakana mods?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 05 November 2019, 13:58:35
A mastapeece, just like Super Mario Bros 2 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: ja.ze on Tue, 05 November 2019, 15:03:09
A mastapeece, just like Super Mario Bros 2 :cool:
You misspelled Knack.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Tue, 05 November 2019, 16:32:00
A R1 1U Escape key that isn't an icon would be real nice also.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: ab042896 on Tue, 05 November 2019, 17:07:33
A R1 1U Escape key that isn't an icon would be real nice also.
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: ronny boi on Tue, 12 November 2019, 22:29:18
All icon mod sets are the best but the mixed alignments are kinda meh. Continue with the 8008/9009 trend and use the fixed legends and also, if it's not too much trouble, fix the nav cluster legends as well.

Honestly I don't mind it not having it since I'm just gonna get the Japanese mod kit. Love this set so much, for sure picking it up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: JinTea on Wed, 13 November 2019, 00:02:41
Really excited to see the finalized kits!
Unpopular opinion, I definitely enjoy seeing the white only on the accent keys. Reminds me more of a delicate touch used to complete a single, masterful piece.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: ja.ze on Fri, 15 November 2019, 18:51:06
White case keyboards would probably look great with this, please add some renders if possible to see how that would look.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Kistler125 on Thu, 21 November 2019, 04:15:29
Any considerations for Rama/Salvun artisans?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Visionaire on Thu, 02 January 2020, 23:05:31
You have my attention... ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 02 January 2020, 23:14:01
I would rather have something done about those navigation keys. That's the reason I couldn't keep my HF Redux kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: aodaliya1234 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 23:19:17
Desk mat possibilities?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: ymaaan on Wed, 08 January 2020, 06:41:53
Any update regarding this set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 13 January 2020, 11:50:55
This is damn lovely.

Any word on some Ortho love for this kit? Traditional ortho keys would be <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: psxndc on Mon, 13 January 2020, 12:00:38
Seconded. Would love/need ortho for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: CodeMayhem on Mon, 13 January 2020, 12:22:48
This is damn lovely.

Any word on some Ortho love for this kit? Traditional ortho keys would be <3

Seconded. Would love/need ortho for this.

+1

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Robosculpts on Mon, 13 January 2020, 18:15:33
This is damn lovely.

Any word on some Ortho love for this kit? Traditional ortho keys would be <3

Seconded. Would love/need ortho for this.

+1

+ another one for ortho
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 14 January 2020, 00:43:52
+ another one for ortho

And another :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: BigLeageChew on Tue, 14 January 2020, 12:29:15
Very nice. How does the color compare to GMK Striker?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Shurakai on Fri, 24 January 2020, 13:38:20
I know this thread has gone cold. Any updates? Is this set still moving forward? I hope so, because I love it and want to see it made.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: octix on Sat, 25 January 2020, 04:57:03
Very, very nice looking set. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Robosculpts on Sat, 25 January 2020, 07:43:41
Boardwalk compatibility would look dope with 1.5u Katakana mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: Kyndylan on Sat, 25 January 2020, 08:08:45
Yeah, I loved this set when the IC first went up, so I hope it's not dead!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: breakbeatzors on Sun, 26 January 2020, 22:27:21
From the Project Keyboard Discord:
Quote
Next thing to do will be a nice deskmat, maybe an Artisan (Rama?), and maybe even ortho support.

I am still working on an exact GB date. The plan is to launch in April. Not sure about that date yet since I don‘t want another similar themed keyset at the same time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 29 January 2020, 23:27:30
Did not find a link to the discord channel for this, but it would be awesome to get an update here from the host of the IC/GB.

Also, just shamelessly bumping to get Ortho Traditional Kit some more attention :)

Only want my hands on this kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 31 January 2020, 14:41:56
Any chance of renders on a silver board?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Working on Base kit changes! Vendors announced
Post by: breakbeatzors on Fri, 31 January 2020, 15:21:31
Did not find a link to the discord channel for this, but it would be awesome to get an update here from the host of the IC/GB.

Also, just shamelessly bumping to get Ortho Traditional Kit some more attention :)

Only want my hands on this kit!

You can follow along in the Project Keyboard Discord (this link expires in one day): https://discord.gg/H7n5JT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Stay tuned!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 28 February 2020, 15:17:18
Kits update!

I am back! Sorry for the lack of updates in past months. I had to decide which option would be the best to implement the Katakana mods into the base kit without going too far with the number of new molds. So here they are


Kits

バリュー VALUE

(https://imgur.com/YRggGl8.png)

クラリティ CLARITY

(https://imgur.com/cqO6UMe.png)

プレサビング PRESERVING

(https://imgur.com/ReKxObn.png)

What has changed?
I changed the font. The Katakana are now more rounded to match the latin counterpart better. They look like they came straight from GMK.
I've also implemented the most requested change and put the Katakana mods into the base kit while I've created a new kit for the beloved icon mods. I've also added basic Ortho and 40s staggered support to the spacebar kit, since this was also quite often demanded.

And good news for all canadians: https://deskhero.ca will also join us to our party  ;D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 28 February 2020, 16:05:50
Thanks for the update!! Any estimate on the GB?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 28 February 2020, 16:13:49
Thanks for the update!! Any estimate on the GB?

Not exactly yet, but after the quote from GMK, I will set the GB date. Estimated date right now is April/May
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 28 February 2020, 17:43:38
the preserving kit could use a r2 kanji esc, r2 1u kanji backspace, and a r2 1u icon backspace.
Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 28 February 2020, 20:12:39
the preserving kit could use a r2 kanji esc, r2 1u kanji backspace, and a r2 1u icon backspace.
There's no kanji in the rest of the set though.... I think you mean katakana?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 28 February 2020, 21:13:06
Thanks for the update!! Any estimate on the GB?

Not exactly yet, but after the quote from GMK, I will set the GB date. Estimated date right now is April/May

Take your time!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: rondg on Sat, 29 February 2020, 00:18:19
I know that this is a long shot, but would you consider having a 1.5u Shift key? After seeing the layout of the Evolv keyboard, it really makes the difference having all the nav cluster aligned that way.
Either way, I am looking forward to this keyset!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 29 February 2020, 05:19:37
the preserving kit could use a r2 kanji esc, r2 1u kanji backspace, and a r2 1u icon backspace.
There's no kanji in the rest of the set though.... I think you mean katakana?

yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 29 February 2020, 05:22:40
Thanks for the update!! Any estimate on the GB?

Not exactly yet, but after the quote from GMK, I will set the GB date. Estimated date right now is April/May

I would say may at the soonest. Bushido is running in April, running then would make some ppl have to choose.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:35:28
the preserving kit could use a r2 kanji esc, r2 1u kanji backspace, and a r2 1u icon backspace.

I know you aren't 100% satisfied with my decision for Ortho support, but it is impossible to consider all wishes without to go overboard with the keys, molds, costs etc. I had of course do to some compromises otherwise there is no other solution. The reason why I didn't add a separate Ortho/40s kit is because of the usual low numbers and the vendors have to buy them out. But overall, I appreciate your interest :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Stay tuned!
Post by: rondg on Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:38:16
Kits update!

I am back! Sorry for the lack of updates in past months. I had to decide which option would be the best to implement the Katakana mods into the base kit without going too far with the number of new molds. So here they are


Kits

バリュー VALUE

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/YRggGl8.png)


クラリティ CLARITY

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/cqO6UMe.png)


プレサビング PRESERVING

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/ReKxObn.png)


What has changed?
I changed the font. The Katakana are now more rounded to match the latin counterpart better. They look like they came straight from GMK.
I've also implemented the most requested change and put the Katakana mods into the base kit while I've created a new kit for the beloved icon mods. I've also added basic Ortho and 40s staggered support to the spacebar kit, since this was also quite often demanded.

And good news for all canadians: https://deskhero.ca will also join us to our party  ;D

Should the Alt be アルト instead of オルト?

EDIT: Nice touch on the function keys!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:52:10
Sorry if this has been asked already. But is the white ws1?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:53:07
Kits update!

I am back! Sorry for the lack of updates in past months. I had to decide which option would be the best to implement the Katakana mods into the base kit without going too far with the number of new molds. So here they are


Kits

バリュー VALUE

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/YRggGl8.png)


クラリティ CLARITY

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/cqO6UMe.png)


プレサビング PRESERVING

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/ReKxObn.png)


What has changed?
I changed the font. The Katakana are now more rounded to match the latin counterpart better. They look like they came straight from GMK.
I've also implemented the most requested change and put the Katakana mods into the base kit while I've created a new kit for the beloved icon mods. I've also added basic Ortho and 40s staggered support to the spacebar kit, since this was also quite often demanded.

And good news for all canadians: https://deskhero.ca will also join us to our party  ;D

Should the Alt be アルト instead of オルト?

The english Alt key is an abbreviation for Alternate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_key). And with the japanese phonetic spelling you pronounce it as an o instead of an a.


I know that this is a long shot, but would you consider having a 1.5u Shift key? After seeing the layout of the Evolv keyboard, it really makes the difference having all the nav cluster aligned that way.
Either way, I am looking forward to this keyset!

This set will use OG cherry arrows, and the modifier keys will be centered like in the render. They should make a straight line without ruining the aesthetics of that beautiful board. Don't worry, the legends won't be out of place at least in my opinion
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 07:03:33
Thanks for the update!! Any estimate on the GB?

Not exactly yet, but after the quote from GMK, I will set the GB date. Estimated date right now is April/May

I would say may at the soonest. Bushido is running in April, running then would make some ppl have to choose.

Yeah, I am aware of biip's set. And since I don't want to rival with his set, I lean to launch the GB in May. Good point!

Sorry if this has been asked already. But is the white ws1?

It hasn't been asked. You are correct, the white is WS1.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: rondg on Sat, 29 February 2020, 07:14:53
This set will use OG cherry arrows, and the modifier keys will be centered like in the render. They should make a straight line without ruining the aesthetics of that beautiful board. Don't worry, the legends won't be out of place at least in my opinion

Sorry for the confusion. I was actually talking about the spacing of the nav cluster on a 75% keyboard. Please see pics for reference  ;D

Typical detached nav cluster: https://imgur.com/a4YMdgS
(https://imgur.com/a4YMdgS)

Evolv-style detached nav cluster: https://imgur.com/1VKa1It
(https://imgur.com/1VKa1It)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 29 February 2020, 10:56:09
Excellent update.

The only small detail I'd point out is the lack of a white-on-blue vertical ("ISO") Enter in the Clarity kit, which would force the use of the blue-on-white one if going with an all-icons style.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: TheMagicPancake on Sat, 29 February 2020, 11:03:56
not the biggest fan of the nav cluster icons, but still very nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 29 February 2020, 11:52:18
Subjective question: This would be easy to pair with an e-white board but if I were to pick blue, what shades go well with the Masterpiece?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 29 February 2020, 12:56:06
One minor question/request: the 1u blue Enter key in the Preserving kit is the only Enter key without a white counterpart. Was that intentional?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 29 February 2020, 13:15:09
I suggest dropping the various R1 1u backspaces. Generally speaking, it's a seldom used key and dropping it will help save keys across a couple of kits.

Also, what's the R1 1u dash-inside-of-dotted-box supposed to be?
Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 29 February 2020, 13:26:15
Also, what's the R1 1u dash-inside-of-dotted-box supposed to be?

It's for long vowels: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/katakana.html#part2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 29 February 2020, 13:28:41
It's for long vowels: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/katakana.html#part2

And where is that key supposed to be located on a board? I don't see it anywhere else in the set, so I'm wondering if it's a key that could be dropped.
Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 29 February 2020, 13:44:58
Looks like in traditional Japanese keyboards  it's next to a 1u delete/backspace key (https://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-8.html)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 16:35:02
Excellent update.

The only small detail I'd point out is the lack of a white-on-blue vertical ("ISO") Enter in the Clarity kit, which would force the use of the blue-on-white one if going with an all-icons style.

I assumed most people would rather use the blue on white than the white on blue enter. If that's really what you are looking for, I will consider it and add them
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 16:37:41
Subjective question: This would be easy to pair with an e-white board but if I were to pick blue, what shades go well with the Masterpiece?

The "bluest" blue you can get  :D

Jk I will release the blue colour when the GB starts, and then I can assist you to pick the right blue.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 29 February 2020, 16:52:19
I suggest dropping the various R1 1u backspaces. Generally speaking, it's a seldom used key and dropping it will help save keys across a couple of kits.

Also, what's the R1 1u dash-inside-of-dotted-box supposed to be?

As psxndc already explained it, I included all keys for a proper ISO Japanese layout. That's the theme for this set, so I won't likely drop them.

The practical use of these 1u keys is for HHKB layout and other layouts with a divided backspace.

Here is an older render as example

(https://imgur.com/C9GfCnb.png)


One minor question/request: the 1u blue Enter key in the Preserving kit is the only Enter key without a white counterpart. Was that intentional?

Yes that's intended. I thought that would look a bit out of place because of the smaller 1u key. If you don't like it this way I will consider it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 29 February 2020, 17:13:10
As psxndc already explained it, I included all keys for a proper ISO Japanese layout. That's the theme for this set, so I won't likely drop them.

The practical use of these 1u keys is for HHKB layout and other layouts with a divided backspace.

Here is an older render as example

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/C9GfCnb.png)


You're missing a ロ key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: datfroyodoe on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:18:09
not the biggest fan of the nav cluster icons, but still very nice
+1

The nav cluster icons look so out of place with the whole base kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: rondg on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:30:09
not the biggest fan of the nav cluster icons, but still very nice
+1

The nav cluster icons look so out of place with the whole base kit

I think it looks fine with the base kit.
This might require new tooling and will affect cost?
Also, text might not fit 1u keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: bsanto on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:36:52
Will buy a set of there are latin alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 29 February 2020, 23:15:43
Subjective question: This would be easy to pair with an e-white board but if I were to pick blue, what shades go well with the Masterpiece?

The "bluest" blue you can get  :D

Jk I will release the blue colour when the GB starts, and then I can assist you to pick the right blue.

Thanks, looking forward to it! Also, that icon for Pause/Break looks like a nice Esc replacement  :)

Edit: I also noticed that the blue icon for Esc is not in any of the sets. Is this intentional?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: psxndc on Sun, 01 March 2020, 01:33:43
One minor question/request: the 1u blue Enter key in the Preserving kit is the only Enter key without a white counterpart. Was that intentional?

Yes that's intended. I thought that would look a bit out of place because of the smaller 1u key. If you don't like it this way I will consider it

I don't want my voice to be the deciding factor here, but after looking at the white escape and white ISO enter render, I'm ok without it. It was just something I noticed. Thank you for considering the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sun, 01 March 2020, 16:51:25
(https://imgur.com/0uf6P1M.png)

Small change on the Clarity kit. I added the blue missing keys because I don't want to force users to use a specific colour
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sun, 01 March 2020, 21:04:11
Don't know if this has been asked or not, but is there any plans for Rama / Deskmat for this set?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 01 March 2020, 21:19:46
Looks really nice. Love it. Will there be a novelty kit?

Also, may we know the meaning of each modifier?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 01 March 2020, 22:01:11
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/0uf6P1M.png)


Small change on the Clarity kit. I added the blue missing keys because I don't want to force users to use a specific colour

Looking forward to April/May.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 04:42:40
Don't know if this has been asked or not, but is there any plans for Rama / Deskmat for this set?

Thanks!

Sure there are, I‘m actually working on it. They will be available in the GB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 05:42:54
Looks really nice. Love it. Will there be a novelty kit?

Also, may we know the meaning of each modifier?  :)

I don‘t have any plans to add a novelty kit because I think it really doesn‘t need it. This will also be certainly better for your wallet I guess haha

The modifier are english terms transliterated in the japanese phonetic spelling. The japanese language uses many loanwords (gairaigo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gairaigo), most of them are of english origin. Loanwords are usually written in Katakana, that‘s why we use Katakana here instead of Hiragana and Kanji

Control コントロール kontorooru
System システム shisutemu
Alt オルト oruto
Shift シフト shifuto
Enter エンター entaa
Backspace バックスペース bakkusupeesu
Caps キャップス kyappusu
Menu メニュー menyuu
Tab タブ tabu
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: D3LTA on Mon, 02 March 2020, 07:16:05
Looks really nice. Love it. Will there be a novelty kit?

Also, may we know the meaning of each modifier?  :)

I don‘t have any plans to add a novelty kit because I think it really doesn‘t need it. This will also be certainly better for your wallet I guess haha

The modifier are english terms transliterated in the japanese phonetic spelling. The japanese language uses many loanwords (gairaigo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gairaigo), most of them are of english origin. Loanwords are usually written in Katakana, that‘s why we use Katakana here instead of Hiragana and Kanji

Control コントロール kontorooru
System システム shisutemu
Alt オルト oruto
Shift シフト shifuto
Enter エンター entaa
Backspace バックスペース bakkusupeesu
Caps キャップス kyappusu
Menu メニュー menyuu
Tab タブ tabu

What is the R4 1u key just below the ISO enter in the main kit? Is that the equivalent 'Fn' key?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 07:33:15
What is the R4 1u key just below the ISO enter in the main kit? Is that the equivalent 'Fn' key?

You probably mean that symbol that looks like a mouth: ロ. That’s the japanese 'ro'. It’s used for ISO layouts and for Alice layouts and acts as an additional B. The FN key is the メニュー key. And the 1u counterpart is this little guy here

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/679673565196320813/680424129177845800/unknown.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: dak148 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 08:58:20
Love the blue on this set, but Japanese-only keys makes this hard for me. Did you ever consider an add-on kit with latin alphas or duo language caps?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: rinkaan on Mon, 02 March 2020, 09:27:44
just a thought, if the keys that translate to katakana breaches the max lengths of 4 char (like your example on pagedown), is there a thought of including kanji?
上頁 =page up
下頁=page down
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 16:12:17
just a thought, if the keys that translate to katakana breaches the max lengths of 4 char (like your example on pagedown), is there a thought of including kanji?
上頁 =page up
下頁=page down


That's a good suggestion, but unfortunately a 1u key can only fit 3 characters instead of 4. There is not enough space to fit in for exapmple 上ページ which has 4 characters. If you use ウエ頁 that might work I agree. But another reason why I didn't transliterated the the nav cluster are the new molds and the resulting costs.

Love the blue on this set, but Japanese-only keys makes this hard for me. Did you ever consider an add-on kit with latin alphas or duo language caps?

Yes, I have. I am considering a latin alpha kit which should make the life for some non touch typists a bit easier  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 16:16:04
Please fill out this quick form if you are seriously interested in a latin alpha kit! That would help me pretty much to decide

https://forms.gle/HCUrEttepaTLtrDA9

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: dom on Mon, 02 March 2020, 17:56:14
Please fill out this quick form if you are seriously interested in a latin alpha kit! That would help me pretty much to decide

https://forms.gle/HCUrEttepaTLtrDA9

Thanks!


YES! YES! YES! PLEASE!

Actually, beg you to do that!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: Adelscott on Mon, 02 March 2020, 18:47:24
Arabic numerals : yay
Latin alpha : nay
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 02 March 2020, 21:25:49
Please fill out this quick form if you are seriously interested in a latin alpha kit! That would help me pretty much to decide

https://forms.gle/HCUrEttepaTLtrDA9

Thanks!

What about latin sub alphas?

Kidding, I'm satisfied with the current kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 03 March 2020, 04:23:46
What about latin sub alphas?

Kidding, I'm satisfied with the current kits.

Next one will probably say WhErE iS mY fUlL cUsToM bAse. I wAnT IsO-tExAs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: depletedvespene on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:31:15
What about latin sub alphas?

Kidding, I'm satisfied with the current kits.

Next one will probably say WhErE iS mY fUlL cUsToM bAse. I wAnT IsO-tExAs

Nonsense. The Texan layout uses BAE, because a big state requires big keys on its big keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: dak148 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:42:36
Please fill out this quick form if you are seriously interested in a latin alpha kit! That would help me pretty much to decide

https://forms.gle/HCUrEttepaTLtrDA9

Thanks!

Amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 03 March 2020, 09:34:15
Really love the blue color! This speaks to me so much.

Personally I feel WS1 is too white in this set, considering the blue is having a touch of vintage vibe (love that indigo!)
I recommend using CP instead (at first I want to suggest L9 but that might make this set maybe too vintage lol)

And how about the upside-down Alt icon? Like the one in Modern Dolch Light Modern kit https://i.imgur.com/xXmNAnc.jpg
Composition speaking, I think it looks better and might be more familiar since macOS use that one.

Really want this come in Ergo but it's cannot even considered as a stretch with all these new legends :p maybe next time!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 03 March 2020, 10:28:48
Really love the blue color! This speaks to me so much.

Personally I feel WS1 is too white in this set, considering the blue is having a touch of vintage vibe (love that indigo!)
I recommend using CP instead (at first I want to suggest L9 but that might make this set maybe too vintage lol)

And how about the upside-down Alt icon? Like the one in Modern Dolch Light Modern kit https://i.imgur.com/xXmNAnc.jpg
Composition speaking, I think it looks better and might be more familiar since macOS use that one.

Really want this come in Ergo but it's cannot even considered as a stretch with all these new legends :p maybe next time!

The reason why I chose WS1 is because of the reason I wanted as much contrast as possible for the legends while keeping the warmness of the WS1 white. For a dark and light set like GMK Olivia with its light alphas for example it is something different. In that case I agree to you. There you need the colours to "approach" in order to keep a good colour harmony that is pleasant to look at. And hey, the WS1 colour may fade from time to time and it creates a vintage look over time  :)

The updside-down Alt icon is referred to a Mac's option key. Thus I also need to replace the diamond icon which is the system icon, and that would upset some Windows, Linux users out there. I personally think the diamond/normal Alt icon is better because it‘s more universal. You can use it for every system
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:22:47
Ws1 is the best. Can pair with other ws1 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: cryworm on Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:33:34
Please fill out this quick form if you are seriously interested in a latin alpha kit! That would help me pretty much to decide

https://forms.gle/HCUrEttepaTLtrDA9

Thanks!

I love the fact that it will be katakana only. It sets it apart from so many other sets out there and looks really amazing and I will 100% be buying the Katakana only set. And this is coming from someone that CANNOT touch type lmao
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: dom on Tue, 03 March 2020, 23:34:06
I love the fact that it will be katakana only. It sets it apart from so many other sets out there and looks really amazing and I will 100% be buying the Katakana only set. And this is coming from someone that CANNOT touch type lmao


What is the reason behind that merciless thinking? You will get what you want anyway (katana only), why block happiness for other people? if there will be Latin alphas more people will get this set. Love for everyone. Not just yourself.

BTW: Having the katana only, will not make this set "apart from so many other sets", contrary! It will show this set is limited and separates people, and the whole idea of "community" should support all of us if the business side of this project allows it.

Peace!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 03 March 2020, 23:41:02
I love the fact that it will be katakana only. It sets it apart from so many other sets out there and looks really amazing and I will 100% be buying the Katakana only set. And this is coming from someone that CANNOT touch type lmao


What is the reason behind that merciless thinking? You will get what you want anyway (katana only), why block happiness for other people? if there will be Latin alphas more people will get this set. Love for everyone. Not just yourself.

BTW: Having the katana only, will not make this set "apart from so many other sets", contrary! It will show this set is limited and separates people, and the whole idea of "community" should support all of us if the business side of this project allows it.

Peace!

I don’t think he was being merciless, he was just stating an opinion. I’m in for all katakanas, but if enough votes warrant a latin alphas kit, that’d be great: more keycaps for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 04 March 2020, 08:51:48
The reason why I chose WS1 is because of the reason I wanted as much contrast as possible for the legends while keeping the warmness of the WS1 white. For a dark and light set like GMK Olivia with its light alphas for example it is something different. In that case I agree to you. There you need the colours to "approach" in order to keep a good colour harmony that is pleasant to look at. And hey, the WS1 colour may fade from time to time and it creates a vintage look over time  :)

The updside-down Alt icon is referred to a Mac's option key. Thus I also need to replace the diamond icon which is the system icon, and that would upset some Windows, Linux users out there. I personally think the diamond/normal Alt icon is better because it‘s more universal. You can use it for every system

Well, it's quite a long way to make yellowing a consideration lol. But I get the point about the contrast ;) just a reminder wether you already hold and see the WS1 by yourself, no offense, it's just for me it didn't give warmness vibe (but yeah, it certainly not on the cool white side either)

About the Alt icon, yeah that's why I said "composition speaking" because value-wise what you said is true.

Can't wait for this set to take off!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Kits updated!
Post by: dom on Wed, 04 March 2020, 08:55:19
I don’t think he was being merciless, he was just stating an opinion. I’m in for all katakanas, but if enough votes warrant a latin alphas kit, that’d be great: more keycaps for everyone.

Cool, respect opinions, and this one as well  :thumb:
Just think, if the designer considering the "Latin" options, why to block his move?
Everyones get the "Katanas" anyway, also those, who will purchase the "Latin" additional set.

Anyway, PEACE and LOVE  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Please fill out the quick poll for latin alphas!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 04 March 2020, 17:24:27
For a real combination of East and West

ウェスト WEST

(https://imgur.com/DRHL9v6.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: dak148 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 17:36:34
Thank you for adding the West kit! In for the main and west kits. Going to be fun to mix and match.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: dom on Wed, 04 March 2020, 18:08:12
West - a great name for the set!
And of course, BIG thank you Energieschleuder! I highly appreciate it!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 04 March 2020, 18:27:12
Congrats on the west kit mate!

Can we talk alt colored kit now? 😬😬 :cool: ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: OtherBarry1992 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 19:46:46
Great looking kit. Love the colors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: synztran on Wed, 04 March 2020, 20:19:03
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: timescam on Wed, 04 March 2020, 20:54:09
looking forward for the rama cap and deskmats. :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 04 March 2020, 21:23:50
the preserving kit could use a r2 kanji esc, r2 1u kanji backspace, and a r2 1u icon backspace.

I know you aren't 100% satisfied with my decision for Ortho support, but it is impossible to consider all wishes without to go overboard with the keys, molds, costs etc. I had of course do to some compromises otherwise there is no other solution. The reason why I didn't add a separate Ortho/40s kit is because of the usual low numbers and the vendors have to buy them out. But overall, I appreciate your interest :thumb:

Since a West kit has been added, I figure this is at least worth a shot again: can we get a full ortho set or at least add a couple keys to make one? I'm looking at my Preonic and dunno how I'm going to cover it with the current sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 05 March 2020, 04:11:18
Since a West kit has been added, I figure this is at least worth a shot again: can we get a full ortho set or at least add a couple keys to make one? I'm looking at my Preonic and dunno how I'm going to cover it with the current sets.

There are enough keys to fill a Preonic if you take the Value and the Preserving kit. Use the keys from the navigation cluster and arrows as well. You have several different options for the bottom row since the Value kit is quite big and generous (notice there are 7 1u bottom row keys)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 05 March 2020, 11:28:14
There are enough keys to fill a Preonic if you take the Value and the Preserving kit. Use the keys from the navigation cluster and arrows as well. You have several different options for the bottom row since the Value kit is quite big and generous (notice there are 7 1u bottom row keys)

yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear at all. My bad. My concern isn't the bottom rows; you're right that I'm totally covered there. The concern is R2/R3 - there seem to be limited options. Below is how I guess I would lay it out.

left side top to bottom:
R1: 1u escape from value (ro from value if escape on R2)
R2: 1u escape from preserving? (I usually prefer tab here, but that's me; I know a lot of folks have esc on R3). What are my other options?
R3: 1u tab from preserving I guess?
R4: 1u shift from preserving
R4: 1u control from value

right side top to bottom:
R1: a lot of options, e.g,. 1u delete from value; 1u bksp from clarity.
R2: ?? rendaku key from value?
R3: 1u mu key from value?
R4: 1u enter key from preserving
R4: 1u right arrow from value.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Quriosity on Thu, 05 March 2020, 11:32:12
Thank you for the West Kit! - Now I'm definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 05 March 2020, 11:47:46
The guy just 'ADDS' a west kit.  Like WFT dude, lets go all in on this set.  Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 05 March 2020, 16:40:32
There are enough keys to fill a Preonic if you take the Value and the Preserving kit. Use the keys from the navigation cluster and arrows as well. You have several different options for the bottom row since the Value kit is quite big and generous (notice there are 7 1u bottom row keys)

yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear at all. My bad. My concern isn't the bottom rows; you're right that I'm totally covered there. The concern is R2/R3 - there seem to be limited options. Below is how I guess I would lay it out.

left side top to bottom:
R1: 1u escape from value (ro from value if escape on R2)
R2: 1u escape from preserving? (I usually prefer tab here, but that's me; I know a lot of folks have esc on R3). What are my other options?
R3: 1u tab from preserving I guess?
R4: 1u shift from preserving
R4: 1u control from value

right side top to bottom:
R1: a lot of options, e.g,. 1u delete from value; 1u bksp from clarity.
R2: ?? rendaku key from value?
R3: 1u mu key from value?
R4: 1u enter key from preserving
R4: 1u right arrow from value.

I understand you. That's why a rendered an example for the Preonic. Note that there are many more options, as there are some unused Katakana keys left for each row. You can shift the Katakana alpha per row to the left or right and fill in the remaining Katakana instead of the 1u modifiers. You don't need to use the R2 Escape icon or the 1u Tab. R1 ロ ホ ヘ, R3 ケ, R2 Dakuten and Handakuten (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakuten_and_handakuten) are still left to use instead.

The icons and Katakana are much more versatile than you might think.

(https://imgur.com/DMerFtJ.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:33:05
Thanks for the render and for walking me through the options. Sorry if the preonic render was posted before and I missed it (I even went back through and couldn't find it)! Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 06 March 2020, 02:02:32
Thanks for the render and for walking me through the options. Sorry if the preonic render was posted before and I missed it (I even went back through and couldn't find it)! Looking forward to this!

I actually did the render yesterday because of your request, that was a little misunderstood. I don't own a Preonic case model otherwise I would have put it at the beginning of the thread.

Next step is the quote from GMK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:13:23
Can we get centered shift and caps icons please..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: synthtastic on Fri, 06 March 2020, 14:06:42
Yeeees hyped for the non-weeb kit!!!!!!!! In for everything here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 07 March 2020, 23:26:59
Was browsing IG and I saw Masterpiece renders on HEx's budget premium board! Looks sick.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:20:50
Any Chance For A Rama Cap  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Coneree on Mon, 09 March 2020, 01:26:01
this is cleannnnnn, interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: j_RMT on Mon, 09 March 2020, 09:20:36
Can't wait for this set.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 12 March 2020, 16:55:28
Value kit change (base kit)

(https://imgur.com/QN5dc1x.png)

中止

After a longer consideration, I changed the Katakana escape key to a Kanji composition. In my opinion the previous legend didn't looked naturally and was a bit clunky. The escape key is the only exception where Kanjis are used.

The key now says 中止 which means to cancel, as in cancelling an event. As the design language in this set is about aesthetics, accuracy and simplicity which should come together, it meets the conditions perfectly. These Kanjis are simple and will be able to produce for certain by GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Thu, 12 March 2020, 17:16:57
I've been watching this project evolve since first post.  Changes look great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 24 March 2020, 06:57:08
Render revision

I worked hard in the last days to get more colour accurate renders. I optimized the lighting for a more natural and accurate light for the blue. All renders are also updated with the new lighting setup. Note that I didn't change anything on the colour. The blue remains the same RAL. I will release the RAL colour soon when the GB approaches further

バリュー VALUE

(https://imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)

クラリティ CLARITY

(https://imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)

プレサビング PRESERVING

(https://imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)

ウェスト WEST

(https://imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)

KBDfans KBD19x
(https://imgur.com/8YogA70.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: zakatak on Tue, 24 March 2020, 09:02:38
Is there a date now?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 24 March 2020, 15:22:51
Render revision

I worked hard in the last days to get more colour accurate renders. I optimized the lighting for a more natural and accurate light for the blue. All renders are also updated with the new lighting setup. Note that I didn't change anything on the colour. The blue remains the same RAL. I will release the RAL colour soon when the GB approaches further

バリュー VALUE

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)


クラリティ CLARITY

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(https://imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)


プレサビング PRESERVING

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(https://imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)


ウェスト WEST

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(https://imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)


KBDfans KBD19x
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(https://imgur.com/8YogA70.png)


IT'S SO BLUE IM GONNA DIE
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:49:34
Render revision

I worked hard in the last days to get more colour accurate renders. I optimized the lighting for a more natural and accurate light for the blue. All renders are also updated with the new lighting setup. Note that I didn't change anything on the colour. The blue remains the same RAL. I will release the RAL colour soon when the GB approaches further

バリュー VALUE

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)


クラリティ CLARITY

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)


プレサビング PRESERVING

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)


ウェスト WEST

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)


KBDfans KBD19x
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/8YogA70.png)


IT'S SO BLUE IM GONNA DIE
Can you die of a color ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 25 March 2020, 06:33:27
Render revision

I worked hard in the last days to get more colour accurate renders. I optimized the lighting for a more natural and accurate light for the blue. All renders are also updated with the new lighting setup. Note that I didn't change anything on the colour. The blue remains the same RAL. I will release the RAL colour soon when the GB approaches further

バリュー VALUE

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/5VUtq0R.png)


クラリティ CLARITY

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/yqGsefj.png)


プレサビング PRESERVING

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/o2Im9Rk.png)


ウェスト WEST

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/XVjxZt6.png)


KBDfans KBD19x
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/8YogA70.png)


IT'S SO BLUE IM GONNA DIE
Can you die of a color ?

Only if it’s this blue
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: SryImBadAtNaming on Thu, 26 March 2020, 13:11:59
Looks nice :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 27 March 2020, 17:09:20
Renders with a J80 and GMK Masterpiece

J80 by frostylove
(https://imgur.com/6Kz5fjb.png)

(https://imgur.com/bOESQdW.png)

(https://imgur.com/DxQKpDY.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 27 March 2020, 17:13:16
Is there a date now?

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Not yet. Still not sure how the current situation would affect keycap Group Buys, but it will be in the very near future since everything is ready for the GB. I will update the thread when the date is fix
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: TheMegaSean on Sat, 28 March 2020, 01:03:21
I've never been so excited for a set!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 28 March 2020, 01:47:34
So, for the icon mods.. are you super settled on the old upper left aligned shift/caps keys? Would you consider doing the new center alignment?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 28 March 2020, 07:36:22
So, for the icon mods.. are you super settled on the old upper left aligned shift/caps keys? Would you consider doing the new center alignment?

Yes, kits are super settled, so a change will be very unlikely. The Katakana mods are center aligned which are a good option for you.

Nice try to change my mind  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 28 March 2020, 19:39:30
Any Chance For A Rama Cap Or Some Other Artisan Caps?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Ozzie808 on Sat, 28 March 2020, 19:47:17
I'm not a fan of blues in general, but these...THESE are beautiful.

I joined the discord to keep track and signed up for the newsletter.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sun, 29 March 2020, 06:31:38
Any Chance For A Rama Cap Or Some Other Artisan Caps?

RAMA caps definitely. Other Artisans are not sure yet
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: big_tuna on Sun, 29 March 2020, 08:42:12
This looks really good, big fan of monochrome kits and have been looking out for a blue set.

Looking forward to when this launches and for more renders, if possible on a navy keyboard and with the west alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Render revision! New lighting environment
Post by: wirex on Tue, 31 March 2020, 19:26:52
Super bummed out about missing out on GMK Striker but this is definitely makes it hurt less, Canadian proxy as well! Totally in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:30:04
Deskmats

ウェイブ WAVE

(https://i.imgur.com/fLLyfAa.png)

エンドゲーム ENDGAME

(https://i.imgur.com/51jVL6C.png)

キューブ CUBE

(https://i.imgur.com/aHWQoj1.png)

Give me your thoughts on these deskmats! No april fool's joke here  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: hkiri on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:34:06
Isn't the first one exactly the same as the blue one from GMK Bento?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:41:50
The wave design is a very common and easy recognizable traditional japanese pattern. It is unique in its own way and differs sligthly from GMK Bento's deskmat. I would say nobody can own a traditional pattern
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: hkiri on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:45:11
It wasn't my intention to say that someone owns a traditional pattern it just seems weird to have basically the exact same deskmat in another GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:54:52
To clear things up here are a few examples where the pattern is used.

(https://i.imgur.com/CqA9xwk.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/9rXk25t.png)

You can find it on rice bowls, porcelain, traditional clothes etc. It is simply the best known or most famous japanese pattern. That's why I think it should be included in this GB. Doesn't matter if there was a similar deskmat more than a year ago imo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Lil on Wed, 01 April 2020, 18:10:11
Very cool deskmat and set!  I like the endgame and wave deskmats the best. Maybe the wave one would look better with a darker blue and brighter white like on the porcelain?
?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: synthtastic on Wed, 01 April 2020, 20:19:17
Deskmats

ウェイブ WAVE

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fLLyfAa.png)


エンドゲーム ENDGAME

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/51jVL6C.png)


キューブ CUBE

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aHWQoj1.png)


Give me your thoughts on these deskmats! No april fool joke here  ;D

The disparity between the different shades of blue is weird, but still good job, especially the endgame one imo. Really looking forward to this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: arkaell on Wed, 01 April 2020, 20:25:55
That Endgame deskmat is so cool
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: SwitchKeys on Wed, 01 April 2020, 20:56:56
Oh please God let Endgame be a thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Ozzie808 on Wed, 01 April 2020, 22:03:42
wave and cube are my two pick. love both
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 01 April 2020, 22:37:21
Wave looks :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: BuddhaBen on Wed, 01 April 2020, 23:39:32
Cube is where its at.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: timtamale on Thu, 02 April 2020, 00:01:57
Endgame looks amazing! Any chance at Latin+Katakana (Gaijin) layout?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: amarotea on Thu, 02 April 2020, 00:09:14
Hard want a wave desk mat.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: TheMagicPancake on Thu, 02 April 2020, 00:54:04
endgame
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Pluto19 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 02:25:39
Wave numbah 1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 02 April 2020, 05:34:48
Very cool deskmat and set!  I like the endgame and wave deskmats the best. Maybe the wave one would look better with a darker blue and brighter white like on the porcelain?
?

Definitely possible, but I would also need to reduce the pattern size. Maybe a deskmat for the next project  ;D

I personally like the current one, obviously
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Coneree on Thu, 02 April 2020, 10:24:42
all mats will be mine! great set and cant wait to cop!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: aaqd on Thu, 02 April 2020, 14:12:40
Beautiful set. I'm for sure in on this one!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: mutthunt on Thu, 02 April 2020, 15:01:05
I'll put my vote in for endgame too, the other two are nice but endgame does something different and it really does stand out!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: alanskiii on Thu, 02 April 2020, 15:54:55
What’s the translation on the endgame mat?


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Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 02 April 2020, 16:08:50
What’s the translation on the endgame mat?


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From left to right it's phonetically:

Endgame
Masteriece
Mechanical Keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 02 April 2020, 16:19:26
Well said, it literally says Endgame

Left:
Endgame
Masterpiece

Right:
Mechanical Keyboard

Props to those who can read japanese  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Rockets. on Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:42:25
this is beautiful, holy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: ray160 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:57:29
Other deskmat colors would be nice too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 02 April 2020, 19:00:12
Endgame all the way. I know you didn't copy but the others are just meh. Id love if the white border had some kind of joinery on the ends. But other then that. Solid.
Title: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 02 April 2020, 19:19:04
Props to those who can read japanese  :D

Well, I can read kana. Reading Japanese is very much a work in progress.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: alanskiii on Fri, 03 April 2020, 01:20:29
Thanks guys! Waves and endgame are my votes


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Mayflower on Fri, 03 April 2020, 02:55:25
E N D G A M E (https://media3.giphy.com/media/OqJp9fcjk9HpWBuF4u/giphy.gif)


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 03 April 2020, 08:37:17
I'm boring, so I like Wave and Cube. I don't care for Endgame much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Shinryuuki on Fri, 03 April 2020, 17:03:40
Value kit change (base kit)

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/QN5dc1x.png)


中止

After a longer consideration, I changed the Katakana escape key to a Kanji composition. In my opinion the previous legend didn't looked naturally and was a bit clunky. The escape key is the only exception where Kanjis are used.

The key now says 中止 which means to cancel, as in cancelling an event. As the design language in this set is about aesthetics, accuracy and simplicity which should come together, it meets the conditions perfectly. These Kanjis are simple and will be able to produce for certain by GMK.

I know this is a long shot, but can you please consider including the old Katakana escape key in the value kit?
The change to Kanji breaks a lot of the cohesion of the set since it's the only key that's different. The difference is especially jarring when you actually know the language and can tell the difference.
Another alternative I can think of would be to make the nav cluster kanji as well to balance things out. However, I understand that would be highly unlikely since it would be more effort/cost.
Otherwise, this would be a definite buy for me. Thanks for your time!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 03 April 2020, 17:45:48
Not a fan of the Kanji Esc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: kidpid on Fri, 03 April 2020, 21:56:14
Not a fan of the Kanji Esc.

Same. Looks out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Module on Sat, 04 April 2020, 09:53:42
Interested, looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | ウェスト WEST Kit added!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sat, 04 April 2020, 15:56:57
I know this is a long shot, but can you please consider including the old Katakana escape key in the value kit?
The change to Kanji breaks a lot of the cohesion of the set since it's the only key that's different. The difference is especially jarring when you actually know the language and can tell the difference.
Another alternative I can think of would be to make the nav cluster kanji as well to balance things out. However, I understand that would be highly unlikely since it would be more effort/cost.
Otherwise, this would be a definite buy for me. Thanks for your time!

I totally understand your concerns. The Katakana escape key was originally planned since the beginning. It took me actually at least a month to make the decision because I wasn't 100 percent content how it looked like. As all kits are final, a change will be unlikely. However, if this set reaches a higher MOQ point the Katakana escape エスク will be the first key to be added. But there is no guarantee I can give

For those of you who can't read the legends, this matter is rather a design decision then a false legending. There are many possibilities for the escape key. エスク is one of them. I can also go with エスク which is in half width but this is more a no go for most people I suppose. And for a Kanji escape there are even more possibilities. In the end it's all preference (source: Japanese keyboard enthusiasts)


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Deskmats!
Post by: Arithmetics on Sat, 04 April 2020, 21:25:17
damn it i think im going ot buy this even though i dont have a board to put this on
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:40:10
I am happy to finally announce the Group Buy date

Group Buy goes live May 1st!



Besides that, I had to cancel the Cube deskmat. Instead, the Square deskmat with a more neutral tone will be offered!

スクウェア SQUARE

(https://i.imgur.com/S0IUtlW.png)



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 07 April 2020, 17:02:38
I am happy to finally announce the Group Buy date

Group Buy goes live May 1st!



Besides that, I had to cancel the Cube deskmat. Instead, the Square deskmat with a more neutral tone will be offered!

スクウェア SQUARE

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/S0IUtlW.png)


Really warming up to Masterpiece on a black board.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: botallu on Tue, 07 April 2020, 18:06:30
damn, can't wait for this to go live
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: Djmm on Sun, 12 April 2020, 02:14:25
When is the estimate shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: timescam on Sun, 12 April 2020, 02:27:39
When is the estimate shipping?
The GB haven't even started

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: kevchigga on Sun, 12 April 2020, 02:40:30
I am happy to finally announce the Group Buy date

Group Buy goes live May 1st!



Besides that, I had to cancel the Cube deskmat. Instead, the Square deskmat with a more neutral tone will be offered!

スクウェア SQUARE

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/S0IUtlW.png)



Estimated prices? Seriously can't wait for this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: gminso on Sun, 12 April 2020, 02:57:10
probably too late to comment but it seems like clarity + perserving + west could cover 65% with arrow keys. (maybe need few more extras?)
can it be added? so if you buy the 4 full kits you can cover 2 keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 12 April 2020, 04:24:02
probably too late to comment but it seems like clarity + perserving + west could cover 65% with arrow keys. (maybe need few more extras?)
can it be added? so if you buy the 4 full kits you can cover 2 keyboards.

you only need the base kit for a 65%, maybe a west kit for latins. I don't think you'd need the rest unless this is some funky 65% layout I don't know.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: gminso on Sun, 12 April 2020, 04:28:27
probably too late to comment but it seems like clarity + perserving + west could cover 65% with arrow keys. (maybe need few more extras?)
can it be added? so if you buy the 4 full kits you can cover 2 keyboards.

you only need the base kit for a 65%, maybe a west kit for latins. I don't think you'd need the rest unless this is some funky 65% layout I don't know.

I just read that the kits are final so no point here but just to clarify, I meant to say that you can cover 65% without base kit. the remaining 3 kits could cover 65% if arrows are added.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:45:12
probably too late to comment but it seems like clarity + perserving + west could cover 65% with arrow keys. (maybe need few more extras?)
can it be added? so if you buy the 4 full kits you can cover 2 keyboards.

60%, yeah. 65%, no (8 keys are missing).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:03:22
I really want to buy just West, Preserving, and Clarity but I really want the 1u icon mods that are stuck in the base kit :( I'm assuming lots of others are in the same predicament?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: 8idl on Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:28:45
Any news on RAMA caps? Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: KiwiAhhhh on Sat, 25 April 2020, 07:06:06
Any news on RAMA caps? Looking forward to this!

the same question
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:27:05
Collaborations

RAMA x Masterpiece

ナイフ KNIFE

Get the tools of traditional japanese craftsmen on your keyboard made of finest brass. The shape is reminiscent of a tried and tested blade, or a chisel. You decide.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/pfN9uI9.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eXUbs12.png)

Black PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/dDxElSa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6LGVPW.png)

マスター MASTER

Get yourself the spirit of a true skilled master on your keyboard.

Gold PVD brass

(https://i.imgur.com/KhfRgWt.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KdoFCFW.png)

Zeuscables x Masterpiece

ライト LIGHT

(https://i.imgur.com/mA2FjD2.jpg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/CzkP5oF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xIgIfJX.jpg)


ダーク DARK

(https://i.imgur.com/43yEHn3.jpg)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/41627DX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nVoLLKv.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:41:24
oh damn
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: ttom on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:44:19
cool, yes, blue is nice, mono is nice. in.

I dig the artisans too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: MrFixIT12 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 20:15:59
Artisans look good
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: leftykeys on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:12:52
The RAMA caps are really nice. nice work
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 27 April 2020, 04:47:12
Hmm, maybe it's just me who would prefer Rama in white or blue color with an infilled color letter instead :-X
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: timescam on Mon, 27 April 2020, 09:41:04
a bit sad that there no white Rama for this set

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:17:58
YO these ramas are out of controll!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: joonia on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:14:27
this set and those ramas... my wallet is crying :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:33:38
RAMA's never fail to wow. I think some of us, myself included, had expectations of them using the colors of the set. They took it a different direction though, which is probably why they excel at what they do.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: utsukishi on Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:45:27
Honestly a really creative and refreshing take on artisans, and it falls in line with the theme. I'll definitely been in on these mastahpieces :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:55:40
Nice set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 27 April 2020, 19:01:51
I can't be the only person wanting to pair the Rama caps with red samurai
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Pachriksu on Mon, 27 April 2020, 21:26:37
I want those RAMAs  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: kidviddy on Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:42:59
I already mentioned this in the Discord, but I just want to post for posterity here as well: excellent work on full JIS support, including not just the elusive R4 ろ and R3 む, but also the R1 ー as well!  This is the first kit I’ve seen that has all three of these included — and in the base kit, as well, no less!  Thank you very much for considering us JIS users!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 30 April 2020, 08:24:32
Thank you! I love it when someone appreciates the work done here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 30 April 2020, 08:32:55
Final deskmat change

The old Square deskmat didn't appeal many people. That's why I designed a new one which fits the spot to have a simple, plain, neutral colored deskmat.

スクウェア SQUARE

(https://i.imgur.com/1wY4JQv.png)


Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/RpCjUbn.png)


Notice that the Value / Base kit only costs 129 USD for a set with 85 new molds. It will be one of the most unique GMK sets ever. This set costs even less than similar sets which doesn't have any new molds. I don't need to say much, but that says it all about the price
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: rondg on Thu, 30 April 2020, 09:21:23
Final deskmat change

The old Square deskmat didn't appeal many people. That's why I designed a new one which fits the spot to have a simple, plain, neutral colored deskmat.

スクウェア SQUARE

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1wY4JQv.png)



Pricing

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Base Kit                 $129.00                   €139                  $230 AUD       $198 SGD      $190.00
Clarity Kit               $49.00                     €56                    $95 AUD         $75 SGD        $73.00
Preserving Kit        $35.00                     €38                    $60 AUD         $54 SGD        $52.00
West Kit                 $59.00                     €66                    $100 AUD       $91 SGD        $88.00


Notice that the Value / Base kit only costs 129 USD for a set with 85 new molds. It will be one of the most unique GMK sets ever. This set costs even less than similar sets which doesn't have any new molds. I don't need to say much, but that says it all about the price

Wow. I really like the first one and the second one looks good too. Not sure if this fits the theme though. Was there a Google form for the deskmats?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy goes live May 1st! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:43:23
Wow. I really like the first one and the second one looks good too. Not sure if this fits the theme though. Was there a Google form for the deskmats?

It may not look like that, but it's a traditional japanese pattern, it's called Ichimatsu. It was used in fabrics, lacquerware, interior decoration, porcellain etc.

Here two examples

(https://i.imgur.com/Gr0v7a3.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Wka6lRq.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy May 1st! Base only for 129 USD! RAMA, cables!
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 30 April 2020, 15:19:45
looking forward to purchase this on my credit card cutoff  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy May 1st! Base only for 129 USD! RAMA, cables!
Post by: noawan on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:49:54
Those artisans :eek: Simply amazing!

A silver chrome option would be perfect
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy May 1st! Base only for 129 USD! RAMA, cables!
Post by: quickbrownfox on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:58:11
Nice the blue looks awesome, likely in for base and west. Launching today! How long will this run for and when is est completion/shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | Group Buy May 1st! Base only for 129 USD! RAMA, cables!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 01 May 2020, 03:00:44
Nice the blue looks awesome, likely in for base and west. Launching today! How long will this run for and when is est completion/shipping?

Q4 2020 According to GMK
Q1 2021 When delays are taken into account
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Masterpiece | LIVE May 1st - June 2nd!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 01 May 2020, 03:02:05
GB is live! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106068.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106068.0)