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Title: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:33:49
(https://i.imgur.com/HfelwSL.jpg)

Andromeda
Sculpted Tenkeyless Keyboard by ai03
Latest update: Final details revealed here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2969557#msg2969557)

Colors:
- Silver case, grey weight, black plate
- Grey case, silver weight, black plate

Group buy times and locations:
- October 24 11:00AM EST at Cannonkeys
- October 25 11:00AM CST at Deskeys/Taobao (link will be revealed as close to this time as possible to reduce botting)

Extra part details here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2971559#msg2971559)


For those who demand the best of the best, Andromeda offers a carefully sculpted design coupled with proven gasket internals for extreme levels of typing comfort and stunning visuals.



(https://i.imgur.com/aIvalAJ.png)

The Beauty and the Beast

Designed as a cost-no-object keyboard, Andromedaís sculpted side profiles have been modelled to provide a satin fabric-like elegance, which combined with the soft curvatures used throughout the board give a delicate feel which lead the eyes throughout the design.

Strong straight horizontals strike a heavy contrast to the softer elements to offer the bold, rigid impression to accompany the elegance. The careful balance of both constructs an elegant yet minimal, graceful yet powerful aesthetic fit for any environment.



(https://i.imgur.com/hngQzZ7.png)

The Journey to the Peak

The design knowledge acquired through many of ai03ís designs in the past have been put forth to full effect with Andromeda, taking elements such as the rear-angled weight and gasket mounting of Polaris and refining them to their ultimate levels.



(https://i.imgur.com/3I1HiyD.png)

Commitment to Detail

The small details make the biggest differences, and no detail has been left unchecked with Andromeda.

Interior screws provides a beautiful screwless exterior that does not interfere with the overall form, and a USB daughterboard separate from the main PCB allows for replacing the USB connector in case it wears out.





Specifications
Case: Aluminum, colors to be announced
Weight: Steel, finish depends on case color
Plate: Aluminum, color likely to be dark grey, gasket mount
PCB: Soldered (non-hotswap), powered by a STM32 ARM microcontroller; USB-C via unified daughterboard for readily available replacements if required
Case Mass: ~3.2kg (Case, weight, plate)
Typing Angle: 8 degrees

Layouts supported:
(https://i.imgur.com/iHZJOaE.png)

Unit Quantity: Limited quantity; number to be announced
Price: To be announced
Vendors: CannonKeys (North America), Deskeys (Asia)

(https://i.imgur.com/Yn6QWlR.png)


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:34:05
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: pears on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:35:10
👀
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: toastyAU on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:55:22
thats a thicc mama, oh my days

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:57:14
i am really really really interested in this, perhaps more plate materials though pc if you can?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: PleasantChaos on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:01:28
VERY interested in this, hope this will be available in Europe
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: adxlk on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:01:57
Typing angle?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:14:47
VERY interested in this, hope this will be available in Europe
Likely the best method will be to order from either of the vendors and ship overseas.

i am really really really interested in this, perhaps more plate materials though pc if you can?
I originally decided upon aluminum due to its properties as a firm yet flexible metal, with a balance between acoustics and typing feel. Polycarbonate on a tenkeyless may be too soft combined with the gaskets, allowing for too much flex to the point where the PCB shorts against the inner floor of the case. However, I will look into potentially offering alternative plate materials.

Typing angle?
8 degrees if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: beefwelldone on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:21:01
Such a beautyyyyy
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:21:20
Do we have an estimate date of the GB yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: zekth on Wed, 01 January 2020, 07:24:16
Any plan for EU vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: demonahz on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:09:00
finally, my first custom tkl is coming!
so excited for this. I'm all in!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Myouri on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:23:49
Interesting, waiting for colors and the PC version if itís available for this.


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:28:22
Do we have an estimate date of the GB yet?
Not yet, but I will be finalizing the design files shortly for a prototype to follow very quickly after.
Once that is confirmed to be meeting expectations and functional, GB will begin.

Interesting, waiting for colors and the PC version if itís available for this.
Polycarbonate will not be available as an option. The material is too soft to handle the internal screw design reliably, and the brittle nature compared to metal goes against the design goal of creating a timeless board.

Any plan for EU vendor?
Not as of now, since there is significant logistics work for adding multiple vendors, especially with a limited quantity GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ian13 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:35:30
Do you have plans to include other plate types?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: stepstone82 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:36:33
Very interesting. only WKL avail?

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:38:17
Do you have plans to include other plate types?

Scroll up like 6 posts. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:39:01
Do you have plans to include other plate types?
Please see this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049) for the initial response.

My honest opinion is that aluminum is a great plate material, offering a balance of pleasant acoustics, extremely soft and flexible feel for a metal plate, and very strong chemical resistance once anodized, which is important for a part which takes most of the spills, dirt, and grime directly. The inherent durability from being a metal is also important for resisting damage during transit once built.

Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:44:05
V nice
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 01 January 2020, 08:51:44
Nice, totally interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: lolafineday on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:06:53
EU vendors?

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:10:30
holy moly, it's beautiful ai03!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: mrkantz on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:12:28
Great looking board, excited to see the color options
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:17:44
cool beans  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Visionaire on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:19:49
Love the sides of this.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:21:43
EU vendors?

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As of right now no, due to the complications of logistics with many vendors on a limited quantity GB.
However, the vendor regions aren't a stiff rule, so it should be possible to purchase from either vendor and have it shipped overseas.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: the_mihalich on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:44:22
All I want for christmas is feet better than bumpons
Make a longer ones plz. It makes big difference

What about 8į angle isnít it a bit steep
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:48:44
Absolutely gorgeous sides, I need this yesterday.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:54:15
All I want for christmas is feet better than bumpons
Make a longer ones plz. It makes big difference

What about 8į angle isnít it a bit steep

I opted for bump-on style feet in this design due to their non-impeding visuals against the case design and isolation performance.
Typing angle will be your preference.

I recommend not buying this board if you do not like it.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:18:30
Is the steel weight going to be polished?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: PleasantChaos on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:23:53
As of right now no, due to the complications of logistics with many vendors on a limited quantity GB.
However, the vendor regions aren't a stiff rule, so it should be possible to purchase from either vendor and have it shipped overseas.

Thats unfortunate. For me in the EU shipping from the US for such a heavy board will be incredibly expensive. Same for Asia.
Could you please just consider adding an EU vendor? I really really want this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:35:02
Thats unfortunate. For me in the EU shipping from the US for such a heavy board will be incredibly expensive. Same for Asia.
Could you please just consider adding an EU vendor? I really really want this board.
I will consider it, but as stated before, it is very difficult to manage, so I cannot guarantee it.

Is the steel weight going to be polished?
I am currently planning for differing finishes to match case colors; for example, silver would pair nicely with a matte dark grey coated weight, while a darker color such as grey would pair better with polished steel.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Damage on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:50:25
Looks fantastic. Canít wait to see the prototype!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: GPrix on Wed, 01 January 2020, 10:53:30
This looks drop-dead gorgeous. Heavily interested, I am.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: SUB01 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 11:35:10
That looks good, but that cannot be easy to machine. Gl with the yields!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Sycomore on Wed, 01 January 2020, 11:54:29
Well, time to start saving.....
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:00:17
This looks amazing. Hopefully there is enough for me to get one!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Delirious on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:13:18
Mid seam or bottom seam? Please be bottom
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: steezkeez on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:25:06
Instacop
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ywcsam on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:37:47
WK is not an option?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: mrkantz on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:46:20
WKL only I believe
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: break on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:50:35
WK is not an option?

Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: belgium_waffles on Wed, 01 January 2020, 13:53:24
Looks great!

Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Sycomore on Wed, 01 January 2020, 14:05:54
Looks great!

Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor!

+1 for a oce vendor
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Captain Shwah on Wed, 01 January 2020, 14:29:39
Gorgeous board!

What's the front height?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: juliusdelta on Wed, 01 January 2020, 14:47:38
So dope!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: jpg2401 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 17:10:58
Can we convince you to offer more plate materials?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: JAKP on Wed, 01 January 2020, 17:29:31
This looks very tasty. Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 01 January 2020, 17:35:39
Seems like ai03 wants a certain plate material. That's cool. We know there's community members who would probably rather wear each other's underwear than use each other's plate material. What if the plate files were posted?

Great board design btw
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 19:54:44
Can we convince you to offer more plate materials?
Possibly; I was considering throwing in a FR4 plate as well since they're fairly affordable to produce. As usual, I'll likely open source the plate file for anyone who wants to make their own.

Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor!
As stated earlier, adding vendors to the limited GB makes logistics extremely difficult, but I will consider it.

What's the front height?
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFIH700.png)

Seems like ai03 wants a certain plate material. That's cool. We know there's community members who would probably rather wear each other's underwear than use each other's plate material. What if the plate files were posted?
Yes, I also do feel that there are people so captivated by the notion of exclusiveness that they fail to see any larger view of a situation.
However, there are certain things that are reused for a reason, for it would be very exclusive yet inconvenient to wear a jacket as underwear, just as it would to use styrofoam for a plate.
In this case, as explained earlier, aluminum works as a balanced, functional plate material which pairs with the design goals well.
Plate files will be posted as usual.

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: SyzygyXVII on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:02:17
I am completely in!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Tennstrong on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:23:36
This looks really neat! Would love to see an angle of it (maybe 30 degrees offset from vertical) to see how the sides play off the form-factor of the top and how much they bow out. (also the top and bottom curvature in a vertical shot would be great)

Also- lay that gasket mounting method on us! haha

Best of luck with this project, looks quite nice so far
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: RobK_aka on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:42:53
WKL only?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 20:54:16
WKL only?
Yes

This looks really neat! Would love to see an angle of it (maybe 30 degrees offset from vertical) to see how the sides play off the form-factor of the top and how much they bow out. (also the top and bottom curvature in a vertical shot would be great)
Like this, or a more top-down shot?
(https://i.imgur.com/CHFeQaR.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Tennstrong on Wed, 01 January 2020, 21:01:42


This looks really neat! Would love to see an angle of it (maybe 30 degrees offset from vertical) to see how the sides play off the form-factor of the top and how much they bow out. (also the top and bottom curvature in a vertical shot would be great)
Like this, or a more top-down shot?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CHFeQaR.png)


That's a great angle too! But yeah more top down I guess was my original intent, to see how the sides kinda "frame" the board, thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 21:20:29
That's a great angle too! But yeah more top down I guess was my original intent, to see how the sides kinda "frame" the board, thanks!
(https://i.imgur.com/0wBP0UV.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Master_Zebra on Wed, 01 January 2020, 22:05:46
Any chance of split backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 22:59:43
Any chance of split backspace?

No; the layout is locked to the one given in the layout image in the first post.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: cyberFluff on Thu, 02 January 2020, 04:47:18
Is it going to be super limited or more along the lines of other cannonkeys boards like the iron and chimera?


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 02 January 2020, 07:47:01
Would ISO be possible?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 02 January 2020, 08:11:06
WKL-only and no spit-backspace/spit-right-shift is a shame but also thankfully saves me from another purchase I don't need but wouldn't be able to resist :D
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 08:11:46
Is it going to be super limited or more along the lines of other cannonkeys boards like the iron and chimera?
I am currently discussing final quantities and such with Cannonkeys and Deskeys; the final number will be posted once that is done.

Would ISO be possible?
Unfortunately no, for the layout is locked to the one given in the first post. I suggest buying an iS0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101828.0) for adding an ISO enter if necessary.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: troyr0x on Thu, 02 January 2020, 08:14:23
2020 is off to a great start. Kinda interested in this one too  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 02 January 2020, 08:14:34
Unfortunately no, for the layout is locked to the one given in the first post. I suggest buying an iS0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101828.0) for adding an ISO enter if necessary.
:)) :)) :)) can we see renders with iS0 added?  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 02 January 2020, 16:33:25
If this goes through, would you make a matching numpad someday? Something like Dolphin, Noxary, or TXpad has done before.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: TheInverseKey on Thu, 02 January 2020, 18:40:27
Would an Alps plate version be a possibility?

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 19:28:43
If this goes through, would you make a matching numpad someday? Something like Dolphin, Noxary, or TXpad has done before.
Possibly, but I doubt it would hit MOQ since it'd be a numpad nearly as expensive as the main board itself.

Would an Alps plate version be a possibility?
Unfortunately no, since the internal screw mounts collide with Alps housings.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: montereysamuel on Fri, 03 January 2020, 05:41:40
+1 on the numpad!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: deathwalker113 on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:47:19
Completely in ! +1 if numpad is available
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Sky Corrigan on Sat, 04 January 2020, 17:59:15
Now this is what is needed for TKL's. Great curves and great design. Finally something different for the TKL fans out there. Count me in!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Rubydestroyer on Sat, 04 January 2020, 18:02:04
I love it! +1 on the numpad too
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Sky Corrigan on Sat, 04 January 2020, 18:03:20
Completely in ! +1 if numpad is available

A matching numpad would be the icing on the cake, mi amigo.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: duxbridge on Sat, 04 January 2020, 22:19:56
Looks like Polaris' big brother! Is this keyboard being made by KBDFans?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 01:49:48
Looks like Polaris' big brother! Is this keyboard being made by KBDFans?
No; it will be handled by Cannonkeys and Deskeys as described on the first post.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ipley on Tue, 07 January 2020, 12:14:28
Hello.
This Poduct no Winkyey???
Only Winkeyless?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: dmatx1 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 12:37:33
Hello.
This Poduct no Winkyey???
Only Winkeyless?

Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.

WKL, ANSI only, 2u Backspace. The only configuration option is stepped or full Caps Lock.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 08 January 2020, 18:27:35
Are you using a new manufacturer or is it someone who youíve worked with in the past?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: h0tdog on Wed, 08 January 2020, 23:58:59
very clean, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: mongoose27 on Thu, 09 January 2020, 00:51:51
I'm totally in, this thing is a beauty.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Thu, 09 January 2020, 01:27:02
This is a very pretty keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: onlinegamer0 on Sat, 11 January 2020, 00:03:04
Wow! Dem curves doe! Very interested in this, I'll be keeping my eye on this IC.

It's probably too early, but any plans on running this design again in the future but with different layouts?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Juggy on Sat, 11 January 2020, 18:18:12
This looks great, in as well!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: jaminb on Mon, 13 January 2020, 02:38:16
All in, this looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 January 2020, 03:22:55
Are you using a new manufacturer or is it someone who youíve worked with in the past?
Likely someone I've worked with before. I wouldn't trust a random factory to handle the sides.

It's probably too early, but any plans on running this design again in the future but with different layouts?
Possibly, but considering the amount of time it took to build just the side for this TKL, it'll take quite some time to redo it for another form factor if at all.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: joker on Sun, 26 January 2020, 09:46:23
very interested in this. Will there be also EU vendors? And what kind of Firmware will be running on it? QMK maybe?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: alp381 on Sun, 26 January 2020, 09:47:27
any chance this could be VIA compatible?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: alxbrn on Sun, 26 January 2020, 09:57:36
Sad that this doesn't offer ISO layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 27 January 2020, 05:40:29
very interested in this. Will there be also EU vendors? And what kind of Firmware will be running on it? QMK maybe?
QMK
any chance this could be VIA compatible?
I would imagine, yes. Many things with QMK are moving towards VIA.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 28 January 2020, 21:32:22
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Yn6QWlR.png)


Just wanted to commend you on the top-notch font choice in this one.

The keyboard's nice too.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Crack85 on Sun, 02 February 2020, 17:50:08
In, this looks dope

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Dafraz117 on Mon, 03 February 2020, 06:20:26
Any idea on colors yet?


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 03 February 2020, 08:59:01
Is there any chance that we will be getting an EU vendor for this ?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 08 February 2020, 07:29:32
Is there any chance that we will be getting an EU vendor for this ?

very interested in this. Will there be also EU vendors?

See this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065) for more info

And what kind of Firmware will be running on it? QMK maybe?

Likely the standard QMK + Via Configurator.

Any idea on colors yet?

Silver is likely guaranteed to happen; still thinking about others.

any chance this could be VIA compatible?

Very likely yes.


Also, most of the files are ready for prototyping; just waiting on the Wuhan Coronavirus situation to clear out so the factories resume.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: konstanz_ on Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:44:41
this is really nice. wish you made a WK version of this. ah well.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 08 February 2020, 11:40:05
If this goes through, would you make a matching numpad someday? Something like Dolphin, Noxary, or TXpad has done before.
Possibly, but I doubt it would hit MOQ since it'd be a numpad nearly as expensive as the main board itself.

He is correct - a numpad is expensive to produce. If you want it matching the sides and back essentially require the same machining but over a smaller area. Thus the charge for the case is in the same range as the case for a TKL. Then you have the MOQ.

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Iksion on Sun, 09 February 2020, 05:55:10
Not big fan of TKLs, but this one is really nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: kindakeyboards on Sun, 09 February 2020, 08:51:43
wowow!!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Starlight-Dawn on Tue, 11 February 2020, 06:09:13
Great looking board!
Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: idkpotato117 on Tue, 11 February 2020, 07:11:31
oh this looks epic
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Actualize on Tue, 11 February 2020, 12:06:07
Wow, looks amazing. Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Muramasa on Wed, 04 March 2020, 17:50:45
Would of been all over this if it had alps support  :(
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 08 March 2020, 18:28:36
Prototype case data prepared and being sent to factory.

Still finalizing the PCB data before sending that one in.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: justin- on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:59:38
Can't wait for the protos to come in, very interested in grabbing one!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: WillyWortel on Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:03:50
Love it. Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Rew23 on Fri, 20 March 2020, 01:19:31
Looks great totally in for this when it goes to GB.

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:29:42
Proto case order has finally been placed.
Now awaiting production for testing.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: Snapple on Mon, 30 March 2020, 05:36:20
Please make a winkey layout and find a EU proxie!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: Crack85 on Mon, 30 March 2020, 06:37:10
Sweet!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 30 March 2020, 07:22:47
Will Andromeda come with internal foams similar to Polaris?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 31 March 2020, 20:56:07
Will Andromeda come with internal foams similar to Polaris?

Yes, it will come with both the midlayer and bottom layer foam as standard.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: Module on Sat, 04 April 2020, 09:58:56
Definitely interested in this, looking forward to it :) 
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 08:57:58
Prototype PCB is in.

(https://i.imgur.com/CTueeMa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c5zJWd0.jpg)

Now awaiting the proto case.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 16 April 2020, 09:25:13
Prototype PCB is in.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CTueeMa.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c5zJWd0.jpg)


Now awaiting the proto case.

Lovely rounded traces! It looks like you're applying the same design language to every detail here, from the case to the font all the way down to the traces on the PCB. I like that level of attention to detail. Thumbs up.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: Crack85 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 09:27:40
So ready

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: kiyoboardasmr on Thu, 16 April 2020, 09:40:40
Really looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: bnj2 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 14:48:46
Such a shame it's WKL only.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: Keltop on Wed, 22 April 2020, 03:23:53
This looks dope! Been waiting on a TKL for a while now, nice to see they're not dead. WKL though :sigh:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 22 April 2020, 03:59:29
Hello. I love space and astronomy. I like the name of this keyboard and have interest in it. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:15:12
The more I look at it the more I like it :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: itunesacc on Tue, 28 April 2020, 09:39:47
I really want this board! Can i know estimate time of GB start?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: Chenson on Thu, 07 May 2020, 23:47:01
This board is awesome! hope this go through to GB, astronomy is my type of taste and definitely would cop this in a heart beat if it's not overly priced.

Interested in what colours this will come in.

+ 1 for an OCE vendor  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:18:43
Case prototype has finished machining and is now awaiting finishing (bead blast, anodizing, etc).
Maybe we'll see a complete proto in a week or two.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: kiyoboardasmr on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:33:14
Case prototype has finished machining and is now awaiting finishing (bead blast, anodizing, etc).
Maybe we'll see a complete proto in a week or two.

Looking forward to seeing the prototype. This is still one of my favorite design, hoping to snatch one during GB  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: shodid on Tue, 19 May 2020, 13:14:46
Looking forward to the best of the best.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: 808San808 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 21:33:40
I love my Polaris, hopefully I can get in on this when it's released.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: ryanmozo on Wed, 20 May 2020, 08:30:27
I've been foregoing multiple GBs to save up for this board. Can't wait for more updates with the prototype!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: adamjohari on Thu, 21 May 2020, 01:46:11
Oh wow just found out about this...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 11:02:50
A more meaningful update will be coming within a day if things go as planned.
Hoping to get things moving asap considering the IC was posted on 01/01.

As for why the summit-end moniker was dropped, well, probably obvious.
Ultra-high-end sounds miserable so I'll think of something better.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Awaiting prototype case
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:24:41
(https://i.imgur.com/8kPqM0O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NMGFVSU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QFSiK35.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HfelwSL.jpg)

Photos from Kevinplus
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Crack85 on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:28:24
Super clean !!!

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:33:23
Beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:54:32
Damn the protos look amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Sycomore on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:55:55
Looks so goood! Hot damn!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: 7empest on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:16:15
Oooof! Man those curves... looks so good!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:21:09
dat curv  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 22 May 2020, 10:22:04
those curves wowow
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: IMZO on Fri, 22 May 2020, 10:50:54
my body and soul is ready! pls gib
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: logo4poop on Fri, 22 May 2020, 11:25:35
ok lets take out a loan
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: singabore on Fri, 22 May 2020, 12:24:06
lets goooooooooo
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:51:52
Man, those curves
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: L8T on Fri, 22 May 2020, 15:30:41
My peepee hard!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: utsukishi on Fri, 22 May 2020, 15:32:37
something unreal about the design in actual photos, this is a very attractive board!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 22 May 2020, 18:49:54
Sex
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Esfera on Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:03:02
Any plans for a hotswap PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 13:59:24
Any plans for a hotswap PCB?

no
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Esfera on Mon, 01 June 2020, 14:45:47
Any plans for a hotswap PCB?

no
Would the case and pcb have room for mill-max sockets?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Nautilian on Mon, 01 June 2020, 16:11:16
Just take my money please!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Tennstrong on Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:59:10
This is coming together beautifully, amazing work on those sides.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:44:38
Requests for an EU proxy have gone unanswered...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Dakk1d on Wed, 10 June 2020, 12:59:44
+1 for EU proxy
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: syke on Thu, 11 June 2020, 11:07:22
subbed
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: immaphantomlol on Fri, 12 June 2020, 14:07:30
any plans to use this design on a 60% board?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: kevinplus on Tue, 16 June 2020, 05:18:33
Additional weights are undergoing production for comparison, and GB preparation will occur after it is done
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:46:47
Can confirm that the above is taking place.


any plans to use this design on a 60% board?

Not at the moment, for it would require an entire redesign from scratch (sculpted side cannot simply be scaled to a different row form factor).

Would the case and pcb have room for mill-max sockets?

This is not the kind of board designed to be hotswapped.
Choose the best batch of cherry-picked switches you can find, and solder them in for maximized acoustics.

+1 for EU proxy
Requests for an EU proxy have gone unanswered...

I have answered this question too many times.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849087#msg2849087)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: mypainishurt on Tue, 16 June 2020, 11:59:31
Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Lefach on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:05:17
This might have to be my first hi-end board.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: are2dcrz on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:46:15
debating between this and the vega. might do both
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: blitz on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:46:49
debating between this and the vega. might do both
This is the correct answer.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ephemeral25 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 16:08:52
debating between this and the vega. might do both
This is the correct answer.

This is pure wisdom
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Muchacho on Wed, 17 June 2020, 18:02:22
[...]
I have answered this question too many times.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849087#msg2849087)

You should probably create a FAQ in the main post.

I read the whole thread and a lot of people are asking if it's WKL only. When a question is raised multiple time it should appear in a FAQ.

This will be less time consuming for the readers and for you.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Crack85 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 18:47:53
[...]
I have answered this question too many times.
Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849049#msg2849049), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849065#msg2849065), here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104056.msg2849087#msg2849087)

You should probably create a FAQ in the main post.

I read the whole thread and a lot of people are asking if it's WKL only. When a question is raised multiple time it should appear in a FAQ.

This will be less time consuming for the readers and for you.
He has one on his discord.

Basically, insert "no" to any question you can't find answer to and you'll have your answer.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: evilpp on Sat, 20 June 2020, 21:54:47
Interested!


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Kookiekurls on Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:42:43
No WK = not interested :(
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 July 2020, 22:34:34
Good news: Additional weights are complete for acoustic comparisons, so the best result can be chosen from the batch.
Bad news: PCBs got lost in transit during shipment from Kevin's place, so they're being manufactured again.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ryanmozo on Thu, 02 July 2020, 11:08:07
Good news: Additional weights are complete for acoustic comparisons, so the best result can be chosen from the batch.
Bad news: PCBs got lost in transit during shipment from Kevin's place, so they're being manufactured again.

Ah well, stuff happens. Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Surefoot on Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:13:19
Any chance to have plate files so us ISO users can at least make it separately ?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: keyberzerker on Fri, 03 July 2020, 07:10:33
Any chance to have plate files so us ISO users can at least make it separately ?

PCB looks like it is not accepting ISO...  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: hiddensong on Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:22:13
noooooooooo! lost in the mail? some delivery agent is a secret keeb enthusiast and is slowly building the ultimate keyboard to release to the community as a prebuilt. :p
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:39:28
New batch of remanufactured PCBs on the way; hopefully this time they arrive safely.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: pelunayrb on Sat, 11 July 2020, 22:07:24
interested in this!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: tonyjones on Sat, 11 July 2020, 22:10:45
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 14 July 2020, 01:39:50
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601774071964893219/732485863086489661/IMG_20200714_153657.jpg)

Still awaiting the PCB, but preparing the newly arrived prototype for a build.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: immaphantomlol on Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:19:22
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601774071964893219/732485863086489661/IMG_20200714_153657.jpg)


Still awaiting the PCB, but preparing the newly arrived prototype for a build.

::want intensifies::
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Minam on Tue, 14 July 2020, 03:22:10
Looks great, just saw this today. Is GB planning to be started in the near future? Sorry if this was already asked.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: mindvox on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:03:27
 :eek: reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 19:12:39
:eek: reserved

Do you mean to say that you're interested? :D “Reserved” isn't something you would usually say in response to an IC, unless you're the runner. Just a small suggestion for your future posts. Welcome to Geekhack :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: SamLee904 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 04:51:26
Somewhat new to the scene but registered to say I'm interested too!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Hugs94 on Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:33:17
Is this the close-to-final plate design?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 July 2020, 21:15:01
Is this the close-to-final plate design?

The plate design is final.

Also, the PCB has arrived; I will be testing its functionality shortly.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 16 July 2020, 22:57:07
...

Also, the PCB has arrived; I will be testing its functionality shortly.

Good to hear!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: EternalSerenity on Thu, 16 July 2020, 23:54:28
Looks unbelievably good.  Those curves.  :thumb:

Really hoping I can pick one up. Would you happen to have a rough estimate on how much this will cost?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Handsome on Sat, 18 July 2020, 22:02:43
nice desigh, i'm in
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: dibstern on Sat, 15 August 2020, 00:16:12
Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.
[/quote]

Why do people want WKL and why would you create a keyboard without an important key?
I donít understand this at all, and it reduces the choice in keyboards so much :(
Title: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: etong415 on Sat, 15 August 2020, 00:18:02
Lol this is the same as asking why do people want 60% or anything smaller than a full size keyboard. With keymapping, thereís no such thing as removing important keys if youíre willing tinker with it a bit.


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Auxo on Sat, 15 August 2020, 01:38:32
Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.

Why do people want WKL and why would you create a keyboard without an important key?
I donít understand this at all, and it reduces the choice in keyboards so much :(
[/quote]

I find a good compromise for WKL boards is to reprogram the Right Alt key to windows, since I never use that Right Alt
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 15 August 2020, 01:42:43
Yep, right alt is always windows on my boards  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Sycomore on Sat, 15 August 2020, 02:17:12
I'm one of those people who does split right shift to add a fn layer to my TKL boards. but I can personally live without a fn key and a windows key.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Kookiekurls on Sat, 15 August 2020, 04:24:01
Very interesting. only WKL avail?
Yes. Both the plate and PCB are locked to the layouts shown in the diagram.

Why do people want WKL and why would you create a keyboard without an important key?
I donít understand this at all, and it reduces the choice in keyboards so much :(

I find a good compromise for WKL boards is to reprogram the Right Alt key to windows, since I never use that Right Alt
[/quote]

Since I use Mac, I do the opposite. I make left alt the win key. I practically never use the alt key. So I put alt on the right side, and life is good. On Mac, the win key / cmd key is a necessity.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Omarpixel9 on Sun, 16 August 2020, 12:19:55
I want it please.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Brenr on Mon, 24 August 2020, 22:54:03
Not a fan of the rounded profile of Andromeda, especially if it isn't foamed and gasket mounted.

If there was a TKL version of the Polaris, I'd be all in... and if it had a leaf spring plate, even better.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: cdhoffmann on Tue, 25 August 2020, 08:33:18
Not a fan of the rounded profile of Andromeda, especially if it isn't foamed and gasket mounted.

If there was a TKL version of the Polaris, I'd be all in... and if it had a leaf spring plate, even better.
Move a long then.


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Brenr on Tue, 25 August 2020, 18:45:49
I wish this didn't have WKL blockers, otherwise I'd be all over this. You should offer a version with the full bottom row.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Hdjekso on Tue, 25 August 2020, 19:08:14
I wish this didn't have WKL blockers, otherwise I'd be all over this. You should offer a version with the full bottom row.
If you don't like it, don't get it. Complaining about every aspect of the board isn't going to change things.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: lysergic acid on Tue, 25 August 2020, 19:49:55
WKL is life, rounded is Andromeda and those who love it will get it
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Techlet on Tue, 25 August 2020, 20:19:19
Yeah, simple. If you don't like what you see at this stage, don't get it. There'll always be more keyboards in the future that might suit you better.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: MattyW79 on Wed, 26 August 2020, 08:43:01
Not a fan of the rounded profile of Andromeda, especially if it isn't foamed and gasket mounted.

If there was a TKL version of the Polaris, I'd be all in... and if it had a leaf spring plate, even better.

I wish this didn't have WKL blockers, otherwise I'd be all over this. You should offer a version with the full bottom row.

So you are not a fan of the rounded profile or foamless nature of the board, but you would be all over it if only it did not have WKL blockers?    Not sure this is a board you should be "all over" unless you like all aspects of the design.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:26:04
Just get kbd8x mkii and call it a day if you don't like it people.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: blitz on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:28:47
lol let me get this exact board, except take out everything that makes this board unique.

Basically, donít make this board, make the board that I want.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Zaum.Tech on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:47:35
Such a beautiful board.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:31:04
Still awaiting one final component for PCB testing; ETAs from the factory keep getting pushed back in typical ETA fashion.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: Lastpadawan on Wed, 02 September 2020, 23:38:43
I really like the design for this board, looking forward to your next update!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 06 September 2020, 07:32:02
Final part has been tested; currently shifting to GB preparations.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: nu_types on Sun, 06 September 2020, 12:50:22
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/12PhfWZDEgVbXi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: lysergic acid on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:31:26
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/2alKkyRFPKRSU/200.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: singabore on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:46:13
raise your wongers
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sun, 06 September 2020, 18:35:08
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: Arcitan on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:32:59
Wow, that side profile has got me feeling all sorts of things. Hoping the raffle/FCFS gods are with me when this drops.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Case prototype finished
Post by: dstaar on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:33:57
Final part has been tested; currently shifting to GB preparations.

(sorry if repeated) approximate price range?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:42:16
This is so very exciting. Happy to hear about the progress.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: cdhoffmann on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:48:06
Been waiting for this one


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: stepstone82 on Sun, 06 September 2020, 20:17:16
My wallet is ready. Exciting news

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: Ramen Champ on Mon, 07 September 2020, 02:59:01
super unique case design - love that you put so much thought and effort into your work!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: goatnapper82 on Mon, 07 September 2020, 04:54:59
Super excited. Have been waiting for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: ljyel on Mon, 07 September 2020, 21:33:28
There goes my wallet again. Can't wait to hear the andromeda with the various switches available nowadays!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 08 September 2020, 20:06:11
Here goes to hoping I can get one!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: PoohGom on Tue, 08 September 2020, 20:29:03
This is great news! I'm more hyped for this than Vega, I'm hoping to be able to get a black one of this!!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: bunanapeel on Fri, 18 September 2020, 18:01:15
This is my endgame board, I am so excited.  Loved the KBD8x mk2 and Polaris, I have become an Ai03 fan.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: whirlwind on Sat, 19 September 2020, 00:36:51
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: sirieous on Mon, 05 October 2020, 11:41:52
im so keen for this board
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Mon, 05 October 2020, 23:15:22
amazing design! definitely interested
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: Drako on Tue, 06 October 2020, 05:51:38
Real nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: thor_r on Tue, 06 October 2020, 11:41:01
Following already
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: obrid29 on Tue, 06 October 2020, 18:23:05
Been watching this since late August, so excited!!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: ubmit on Tue, 06 October 2020, 19:16:31
Good to know this is coming out soon!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - Preparing for GB
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 08 October 2020, 09:18:01
As announced on Discord and social media, the group buy will begin on October 24th.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Thu, 08 October 2020, 10:12:57
such hype!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: acaban on Thu, 08 October 2020, 12:32:00
what would be the price range for this kb?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: lysergic acid on Thu, 08 October 2020, 13:20:55
Gonna guess 600-800 USD
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 08 October 2020, 14:13:22
what would be the price range for this kb?

Iíd be pretty surprised if this was under 700.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MayberryMech on Fri, 09 October 2020, 19:49:06
Is there a final price yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 09 October 2020, 20:41:36
Does both the PCB and plate not support split bs?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 09 October 2020, 20:47:56
Is there a final price yet?

No
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Mon, 12 October 2020, 17:09:04
based on pics of previous ai03 boards, i really hope purple is available as an option!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 16 October 2020, 09:23:32
Hope to hear updates on the GB soon.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Tarek on Sat, 17 October 2020, 10:56:39
I hope we get a red  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ergusto on Sat, 17 October 2020, 15:01:11
Do we know how long the GB will run for?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: zepled112 on Sat, 17 October 2020, 15:04:16
so is that a no to split backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: XHE on Sat, 17 October 2020, 16:05:48
Do we know how long the GB will run for?

It appears to be extremely limited. Cannon Keys has 100 Units at 750 USD. So, I assume it will last about 3 Seconds.

I am just wondering If I should try my luck at Cannon Keys or Deskey, being from Europe.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 17 October 2020, 17:32:44
so is that a no to split backspace?

I think I saw somewhere that R1 does not have split backspace but future runs may have split backspace
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: despairsray on Sat, 17 October 2020, 20:16:24
Can't wait for next week. Never used the new cannon keys queue system before.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: paperassgasket on Sat, 17 October 2020, 20:37:26
Can't wait for next week. Never used the new cannon keys queue system before.

I've taken back to back L's on that system and I gotta say it's the best way to lose a FCFS. Way less stressful.
Seriously though I think it's a great approach, though I don't know the specifics of how the backend works but it's nice to at least have time to add stuff to the cart.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 00:31:42
I watched apiary build this board and for $750 I sure hope we don't get an ugly green PCB and gaskets we have to install our selves...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: otakism on Sun, 18 October 2020, 04:57:49
Can't wait for next week. Never used the new cannon keys queue system before.

I've taken back to back L's on that system and I gotta say it's the best way to lose a FCFS. Way less stressful.
Seriously though I think it's a great approach, though I don't know the specifics of how the backend works but it's nice to at least have time to add stuff to the cart.

Would you mind describe the system in a bit more details?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: paperassgasket on Sun, 18 October 2020, 06:00:10
You can read all about the system on their website.

https://cannonkeys.com/blogs/updates/adelie-and-the-new-cannonkeys-release-system?_pos=1&_sid=58a10ea87&_ss=r
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 18 October 2020, 06:40:23
Do we know how long the GB will run for?

It appears to be extremely limited. Cannon Keys has 100 Units at 750 USD. So, I assume it will last about 3 Seconds.

I am just wondering If I should try my luck at Cannon Keys or Deskey, being from Europe.

Wait. Where did you get this info?

Edit: Nvm, just saw his updates in discord  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 18 October 2020, 06:42:55
Do we know how long the GB will run for?

It appears to be extremely limited. Cannon Keys has 100 Units at 750 USD. So, I assume it will last about 3 Seconds.

I am just wondering If I should try my luck at Cannon Keys or Deskey, being from Europe.

Wait. Where did you get this info?

Edit: Nvm, just saw his updates in discord  ;D
CK newsletter released this info, today. But havent heard from deskeys, I mean officially.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 07:31:46
I watched apiary build this board and for $750 I sure hope we don't get an ugly green PCB and gaskets we have to install our selves...
Lulwut?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 07:37:00
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: GMK83 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 07:57:58
Itís been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps.  Being surprised that itís limited in color choices shouldnít be a surprise to anyone.  I personally donít care about the PCB color.  It isnít seen once built.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 08:06:59
I mean just cause the designer didn't want to make a black board doesn't mean it wasn't planned well. Smh
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 09:53:18
Itís been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps.  Being surprised that itís limited in color choices shouldnít be a surprise to anyone.  I personally donít care about the PCB color.  It isnít seen once built.

Where has that been said? I literally just went through the entire topic and there was no mention of that. He even posted pictures of a black proto...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: GMK83 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 09:58:59
Itís been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps.  Being surprised that itís limited in color choices shouldnít be a surprise to anyone.  I personally donít care about the PCB color.  It isnít seen once built.

Where has that been said? I literally just went through the entire topic and there was no mention of that. He even posted pictures of a black proto...

(https://i.imgur.com/KbYBDst.jpeg)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 10:30:47
Itís been said from the start that it was designed around a silver board and beige keycaps.  Being surprised that itís limited in color choices shouldnít be a surprise to anyone.  I personally donít care about the PCB color.  It isnít seen once built.

Where has that been said? I literally just went through the entire topic and there was no mention of that. He even posted pictures of a black proto...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KbYBDst.jpeg)


Really, something from a few days ago...ok guy.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 18 October 2020, 10:38:56
Are there any renders of the gray version?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: zekkin on Sun, 18 October 2020, 11:28:48
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 11:37:51
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.
Too add to this, black and other darker colors were probably left out because they won't accentuate the sides as well as silver does.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 11:38:43
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

That literally makes no sense. Just because I liked the design and didn't state the color didn't mean I didn't have one in mind. As others have stated there were mock-ups shown in black, so I relied on that.

No I don't think that's what's wrong with the community. I think what's wrong with community is that real world market rules don't apply and we're expected to praise any and all work that is done. This isn't being done for fun, its being done for profit. So any work he put in, we are all grateful for, but there also has to be some accountability. Why does a "custom" board that is being sold for $750 offers almost 0 customizability other than picking between silver and gray. Why does it even cost that much to begin with? Break down the costs for us? Even in this non-sense market, explain to me how this will retain value over something like a Keycult, since its nearing that price tag with also a very limited supply?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Starston3 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 11:59:54
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

That literally makes no sense. Just because I liked the design and didn't state the color didn't mean I didn't have one in mind. As others have stated there were mock-ups shown in black, so I relied on that.

No I don't think that's what's wrong with the community. I think what's wrong with community is that real world market rules don't apply and we're expected to praise any and all work that is done. This isn't being done for fun, its being done for profit. So any work he put in, we are all grateful for, but there also has to be some accountability. Why does a "custom" board that is being sold for $750 offers almost 0 customizability other than picking between silver and gray. Why does it even cost that much to begin with? Break down the costs for us? Even in this non-sense market, explain to me how this will retain value over something like a Keycult, since its nearing that price tag with also a very limited supply?

At the end of the day it's up to the designer to decide what they want what they designed to look like. ai03 is very opinoated and if it doesn't appeal to everyone, it's fine there will be other that will like it and buy it. ai03 doesn't care about aftermarket value, nor should most people.

At the end of the day, do you like the 2 colour available? Yes? Then buy. No? can you cerakote or reannodize later? probably. Then buy it. If not, there aren't an lack of other TKLs being IC'd.

The designer doesn't owe anything to anyone, other than their vision of what they made. Once you bought it you can do whatever you want with it.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: GMK83 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:02:57
This is pretty easy, let me break it down for you; he can price it at whatever he wants... capitalism.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:11:36
Did black proto even exist? iirc, only silver and grey proto.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/284489472f573e812bfedbc3de21197f.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:30:42
Did black proto even exist? iirc, only silver and grey proto.
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Yea, unless this is a really dark gray since I'm not sure pics of the gray were posted. In any case it is what it is. I was just expressing that I was looking forward to the black version of this for a long time and was disappointed. People have to jump with making stupid comments.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601774071964893219/730557498842546237/QFSiK35.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: otakism on Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:52:49
It's mentioned in discord the deskeys batch will be moved to taobao due to high demand from China, is any information on how to join the taobao GB?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:55:34
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:02:09
It's mentioned in discord the deskeys batch will be moved to taobao due to high demand from China, is any information on how to join the taobao GB?
Will be announced(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/9be6d360cd7f1015f8d4e5d18d1f92e1.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MacSurfy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:02:43
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.

Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: aadk5 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:09:15
Did black proto even exist? iirc, only silver and grey proto.
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Yea, unless this is a really dark gray since I'm not sure pics of the gray were posted. In any case it is what it is. I was just expressing that I was looking forward to the black version of this for a long time and was disappointed. People have to jump with making stupid comments.

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Obviously I'm just assuming here, but I think this has to be the gray. The known options are silver with gray weight, and gray with silver weight. If you look at all the pictures of the silver board, the gray is quite dark, almost close to this. If you look at this picture, the weight inside is silver. So, again this is an assumption, I'm going to guess this is the gray
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:16:57
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.

Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.

It has nothing to do with HIS colour. It's the fact that what we are presented as the final GB seems poorly planned and rushed. It's a $750 board with what is essentially zero options. It feels like something we'd get in a GB in 2016, not 2020.

I think these issues encapsulate everything that is wrong with this hobby honestly. We have a topic dedicated to being an interest check with no real info. Everything that has been stated about this board was in outside channels. So basically if you want to know the colours of the board or his intended design, or any other in depth info, the interest check isn't the place to be. That seems counter intuitive... The entire hobby is very poorly run and communicated in this regard. Not just ai03 but most GBs and interest checks. Some better than other . That's not entitlement, it's just the reality.

Is hoping that the interest check would be updated with relevant information such as colors and how it was intended to be designed really entitlement? It's the point of the damn post.

Does saying months ago that the board was designed to be Silver with beige keycaps, not mentioning it in this thread at all and then showing pictures of a black proto just months ago mean I'm entitled because I expected a black version? Come on....
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:20:56
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.

Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.

Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: aadk5 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 13:29:02

Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Wow this IC thread is getting quite off topic with a lot of misinformation. The tabs overlapping the switches is exactly why you prototype, and what you saw gasp build was a prototype and will be changed I'm sure. Broken daughterboard happens to so many boards that uses daughterboards and that's not really anyone's fault; that's just what happens when you add things that could be potential points of failure. I'm sure they will test the boards that actually go to group buy to make sure the daughterboards work. Also, very limited quality is always a thing in keyboard group buys; the Duck Orion released yesterday also only had 100 units; the Iron 180 is also only 200 boards in the US vendor
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MacSurfy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:02:09
Does saying months ago that the board was designed to be Silver with beige keycaps, not mentioning it in this thread at all and then showing pictures of a black proto just months ago mean I'm entitled because I expected a black version? Come on....

Did he ever say it was black though? Maybe he did, never saw the post. But if its the same as the photo posted just above this conversation it could be the grey that is also offered in the GB. Hard to tell from that photo.



Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Yeah, I am not down with the PCB either. Looks cheap at this price point. BUT, we also don't know if that is the final PCB since this was a prototype.. and the same goes for the rest of what you highlighted in your post. It's a bit of a double edged sword to show off a prototype, people will comment on every single detail even though its not final yet. But at the same time its hard for us consumers to know what to expect at the end.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Rico on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:06:44
Having designed two custom keyboards for my own needs I can tell that doing such work is very difficult to do right and very time consuming.
And there is a LOT of incredible work done in this one.
First this is a screwless, all curvy  keyboard, this complicates the design a lot.

As for the price of 750$ it does not look overpriced for what it is.
All these curves will take ages to CNC machine.
The weight is stainless steel, an expensive and very difficult to machine material. On top of that given its shape a big shunk have to be used and a lot of material have to be removed, adding to the cost.

I can understand the frustration of not having more color choices, but at the end it is the designer's choice and has nothing to do with rushing a GB.

Peace
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:10:30
Does saying months ago that the board was designed to be Silver with beige keycaps, not mentioning it in this thread at all and then showing pictures of a black proto just months ago mean I'm entitled because I expected a black version? Come on....

Did he ever say it was black though? Maybe he did, never saw the post. But if its the same as the photo posted just above this conversation it could be the grey that is also offered in the GB. Hard to tell from that photo.



Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Yeah, I am not down with the PCB either. Looks cheap at this price point. BUT, we also don't know if that is the final PCB since this was a prototype.. and the same goes for the rest of what you highlighted in your post. It's a bit of a double edged sword to show off a prototype, people will comment on every single detail even though its not final yet. But at the same time its hard for us consumers to know what to expect at the end.

I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:18:00
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.

Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.

You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.

This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?

But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here...  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:21:47
Good Lord, people are losing their **** about color on an aluminum rectangle
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: LOLWK on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:24:08
This board looks and sounds incredible.

I will definitely try to buy one. But i freaking hate cannonkeys storefront
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:25:15
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Your entitlement is a great encapsulation of what's wrong with this community. What about "ULTRA HIGH END" is hard to understand?

As for what you were waiting for/putting off and being disappointed with choices, here's your single comment in this thread prior to the above comment:

This looks great, in as well!

Not once did you express your desire for color of a keyboard. To say that this wasn't planned well is to completely disregard the time and effort put into this by ai03 and the eventual effort and time Upas will have to dedicate to fulfilling this.

No, your comment is what's wrong with the community. Apparently having some criticism and disappointment = entitlement to you. That is backwards.

Critisism is one thing. Making a post about how poorly planned this is because *his* preferred color was not the chosen one is entitlement.

Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.


I have an idea, how about don't buy the thing?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:25:42
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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:26:02
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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:26:51
Mirroring the info from Discord, which again is my main prioritized location for pushing updates and notifications:

As you may have seen on the Cannonkeys newsletter and/or Apiary stream, this board will be 750 USD with a 100 unit cap per vendor.
Laughably, a massive portion of the price tag is the sheer production cost from machining out such a design. Don't say that I didn't warn you regarding the price beforehand...

There will be two color configurations:
- Silver case, grey weight, black plate
- Grey case, silver weight, black plate
Both configurations will be of identical materials - aluminum case and plate, steel weight.

Cannonkeys will sell on their storefront via their usual rolling raffle system on October 24, 11:00AM Eastern time.
Due to massive demand from the CN market, the Deskeys batch will be sold through Taobao in FCFS fashion on October 25, 11:00AM Beijing time (12 hrs after CK's batch).

Neither vendor will be region-locked; feel free to purchase from whichever is more convenient.

The build guide will outline the correct assembly order for the keyboard when it is available. This will avoid problems with screwless mount point fitment seen in the stream.

One thing to note is that due to timezone differences, I may be asleep when these buys happen, so I may not be able to drop a "5 minutes until GB" announcement or whatnot.
Please consider this to be the last reliable notification from me regarding the board, and set your calendars/alarm clocks on your side for these times.


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Doing the much-needed housekeeping akin to trying to fight a house fire without a sprinkler system:

I watched apiary build this board and for $750 I sure hope we don't get an ugly green PCB and gaskets we have to install our selves...
Production PCB will be black.
You have to install the gaskets yourself by default; however, you can use your personal slave labor instead as an upgrade option.

This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/
I ruled out black as an option from day 1 as it would not reflect the lighting properly and would kill the benefits of the design.
I think it's safe to say that uncontrolled speculation gets away from the design's intentions at some point.

Why does it even cost that much to begin with?
Machining cost and material cost. As simple as that.
Chop off the sculpted surfaces and downsize the weight, and watch price literally drop to half.

Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.
I suppose I am entitled indeed. Unfortunate that I must enforce upon you the existence of this thread which you could simply dismiss as not fitting your values and close for the sake of spending time doing something more worthwhile than replying to such a topic.


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It pains my heart that the community which surrounds the hobby which I enjoy so much is the one which I despise the most.
It also disappoints me that I am not allowed to make what pleases me and to allow a purchasing option for those who wish to obtain a copy of it without coming under heavy criticism.
Alas, it is what it is.


Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:33:15
If you ruled out black on day one, can you provide some insight into the proto picture you posted that looked black? Are we to assume that is the grey version? Because it looks black.... Is that how the grey version will look in real life, or does it not reflect how it will look? Because if that is how it will look I don't think anyone who wanted black will be disappointed with that.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:35:42
If you ruled out black on day one, can you provide some insight into the proto picture you posted that looked black? Are we to assume that is the grey version? Because it looks black.... Is that how the grey version will look in real life, or does it not reflect how it will look? Because if that is how it will look I don't think anyone who wanted black will be disappointed with that.

Because gray, with dark lighting, contrasty lighting, special lighting, and all sorts of lighting, can appear as differing shades of grey, perhaps 50 shades of grey.
I highly recommend testing with a grey anodized piece of aluminum and photographing it in heavily varying lighting conditions to see the results.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:36:07
Make sure to copy the hater talking points here when this is 2K/trade for Irons on mechmarket. If you want a certain color, and you can buy 850$ worth of board, spare pcb, and shipping w colossal aftermarket pricing...you can get it anodized -any color you want- for a fraction of the price.

This is a cool board and im looking forward staring at the CK queue
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:41:27
If you ruled out black on day one, can you provide some insight into the proto picture you posted that looked black? Are we to assume that is the grey version? Because it looks black.... Is that how the grey version will look in real life, or does it not reflect how it will look? Because if that is how it will look I don't think anyone who wanted black will be disappointed with that.

Because gray, with dark lighting, contrasty lighting, special lighting, and all sorts of lighting, can appear as differing shades of grey, perhaps 50 shades of grey.
I highly recommend testing with a grey anodized piece of aluminum and photographing it in heavily varying lighting conditions to see the results.

I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:42:45
Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.

Fresh people in this hobby have two options. Learn more and then make educated comments on the subject, or, stumble around like entitled idiots raging at the sky simply because it's above you.

In the end a designer can design or sell whatever he wants. Those who like what a designer makes and are willing to pay for it aren't "eating up whatever was served". They're making a choice like grown ass adults. Whining in a forum thread because you didn't personally get what you wanted while never even sharing your desires during months of interest checks... Time to grow up.

At least these latter people are still the minority. But they're hard to ignore when they divert discussion with their bile.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:43:36
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:47:26
Quote
Designed as a cost-no-object keyboard
Getting mad at price tag

 :)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Vaiur on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:48:15
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It pains my heart that the community which surrounds the hobby which I enjoy so much is the one which I despise the most.
It also disappoints me that I am not allowed to make what pleases me and to allow a purchasing option for those who wish to obtain a copy of it without coming under heavy criticism.
Alas, it is what it is.

@Juggy
You should feel ****ing ashamed that these words coming from this person are pointed at people like you.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:49:09
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: aadk5 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:50:23

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.

Nice, better chances for me and for anyone else who actually liked how the board is designed. What a concept, only buying something you actually like and not buying something if you don't like it
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:50:36
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.

KEKW?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:50:41
How is discussion about the colors a thing? It's your own fault that you assumed that there will be x and y colors as it was clearly stated for the longest time "Colors: TBA".

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:50:47
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
I'm weak.

This thread is a gold mine
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:50:56
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.

Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.

You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.

This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?

But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here...  :-X

You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. People had to go on attack mode after a very simple criticism, and then they get hurt when I explain position. But let me tell you what, even if I was, this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:51:37
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.
I'm weak.

This thread is a gold mine
Tell me about it. So much copy pasta for the future.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:52:36
I've only bought from Cannonkeys for 30 day window GBs. How does the rolling raffle work?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:54:22
I've only bought from Cannonkeys for 30 day window GBs. How does the rolling raffle work?
From my understanding, it works like how sneaker drops work.

You wait in a "waiting room", earlier = higher chance, and you sit and wait.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: upas on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:55:21
I've only bought from Cannonkeys for 30 day window GBs. How does the rolling raffle work?

We have a blog post about our custom checkout system here:
https://cannonkeys.com/blogs/updates/adelie-and-the-new-cannonkeys-release-system
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:57:14
Look, if you had
One shot, or one opportunity
To seize that keyboard you always wanted - one moment
Would you captcha it? Or just let it slip?
 
His palms are sweaty, knees weak, wallet empty
There's vomit on his keyset already, mom's spaghetti
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop money, but he keeps on forgetting the time he wrote down
The whole channel goes so loud
He opens the page, but the images won't load out
He's choking, how? Everybody's checking out
The stock's run out, time's up, over, blaow!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 14:58:32
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.

"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...

cut-outs that overlap with switches
Apparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works...  :confused:

Also:
Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.
Entitlement.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: trg1234 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:00:27
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.

something something MONUMENTAL MISTAKE
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: LOLWK on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:01:45
Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.

Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.

You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.

This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?

But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here...  :-X

You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. People had to go on attack mode after a very simple criticism, and then they get hurt when I explain position. But let me tell you what, even if I was, this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

You arent providing any real feedback. Thats what youre getting attacked.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MacSurfy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:05:09
I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:06:14
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.

"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...

cut-outs that overlap with switches
Apparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works...  :confused:

Also:
Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.
Entitlement.

Relax you're going to pop a vein.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:11:08
I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MacSurfy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:13:58
I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

It does not look fully black in the photo, and nobody said it would be black. It could be grey. That's what I am getting at. Unless the designer has said it will be a certain color and the PCB will look a certain way its not official information. That's all.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:14:19
Just cerakote or reanodize it.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:14:26
You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.

"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...

cut-outs that overlap with switches
Apparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works...  :confused:

Also:
Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.
Entitlement.

Relax you're going to pop a vein.

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

Seriously, we work with the info we are given. The price being announced this late, the colors being announced this late, not even having final mock-ups or any pictures of one of two options one week out is not exactly commendable. The discord was completely locked ages ago and there has been very little communication.  I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: pngu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:15:05
This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:15:59
I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.

Less arrogance -> Give me a time machine so I can check the future so I know when stuff will happen
Better communication -> Discord, as stated in the very first post of the thread
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:24:11
I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.

Less arrogance -> Give me a time machine so I can check the future so I know when stuff will happen
Better communication -> Discord, as stated in the very first post of the thread

The arrogance part would be treating people like they're children and don't understand how things appear in different lightning. Grey can be light and a grey can look very very dark. All I asked is which way the grey on this board was learning(because the picture you provided was incredibly dark) and I get a spiel about how I shouldn't buy the board because you can't photograph it in absolutely perfect conditions to fill my need for an exact representation of it even though I never asked for that.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:25:49
This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: jorj_mk on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:26:02
the sheer entitlement in this hobby makes me sick.
it's quite simple really... you don't like the product, you dislike the designer or the ic process, just don't buy it. there is no reason for a designer to change a design to fit your desires just because you think that you deserve it, because you don't.

this drama aside, gl w/ gb ai03. the board looks amazing. sad i won't be joining because budget doesn't allow, gl to all of the sensible people in here who actually want it.

This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:26:14
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.

You do know that the color of a PCB has absolutely nothing to do with the design of a PCB?
That a PCB can very well be already final and finished design but the final prototype was just made in green because that's actually cheaper than any other PCB color?

Probably not but whatever...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:30:21
Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.

You do know that the color of a PCB has absolutely nothing to do with the design of a PCB?
That a PCB can very well be already final and finished design but the final prototype was just made in green because that's actually cheaper than any other PCB color?

Probably not but whatever...

I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:33:47
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:34:51
Why does the pcb color matter to begin with?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:37:00
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.

It matters because as you said, green is cheap and it would be kind of ****ty to get the cheapest option when you are paying for a premium product.

I understand  you don't see it once it's in the board. If most people actually felt this way about PCBs though, they would all just be generic green PCBs. They're not though and there is a reason for that, hence my original question about the colour.

edit: I will absolutelyadmit  my initial question about the pcb colour way back was snarky and slightly rude, but I think the response to people displaying very very minor criticism is completely over the top.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:38:56
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:40:20
I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.

It matters because as you said, green is cheap and it would be kind of ****ty to get the cheapest option when you are paying for a premium product.

I understand  you don't see it once it's in the board. If most people actually felt this way about PCBs though, they would all just be generic green PCBs. They're not though and there is a reason for that, hence my original question about the colour.

It's the cheapest option when doing prototyping with a manufacturer like JLCPCB.
For production runs it doesn't matter because with higher numbers the price per unit for special colors decreases anyways.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:40:57
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:42:19
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board  :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: productkun on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:43:26
I want a PCB with with a gradient, one that starts translucent to full black, cant believe i cant choose the colours, this is madness grr
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: surfmurder on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:44:04
GL w/GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:44:21
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board  :blank:

CannonKeys has worldwide shipping.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: brln on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:45:06
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.
I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board  :blank:

CannonKeys has worldwide shipping.

It has no pink pcb.
You heard the man.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: heyimpanda on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:49:33
damn i live in a world where complaining that the prototype pcb is green and that you have to install the gaskets (read: build the keyboard yourself) is constructive "criticism" 9 months into an IC
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: illusixn on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:55:12
(https://i.imgur.com/ETex3PF.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 15:56:33
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:00:01
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: surfmurder on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:02:31
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:05:39
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Rico on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:07:59
Having a board sounding as nicely as it does, and without any dampening material, is already a big achievement.
Grey/Silver goes with nearly all keysets that you may have and is a classy classic.

It may not please everybody (nothing does) but I'm sure it will sell very quickly ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:08:24
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:10:02
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
Title: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: dallman5 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:11:18
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:13:13
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.

Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:13:23
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

Don't play the ignorance card. Since the very start it was clearly stated "Colors: TBA".
There was no info released on the colors other than that till just now.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:14:53
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:17:07
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
Was the color mentioned in the comment with the pictures? No. Means you thought it was x when you had no info on what it actually was and assumed it as fact. Who's fault is that? Yours.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: pngu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:17:21
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: dallman5 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:18:34
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....
Discords search functionality works pretty well, no need to be so dramatic.

has: image
in: andromeda
from: ai03

Like so easy.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:19:00
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

You just assumed the proto to be black in the first place. So....
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:20:11
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i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice
how big can we make this pyramid
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:20:48
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:22:42
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i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.



So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice
how big can we make this pyramid
im not sure but sky is the limit
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: krazikake on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:23:45
 ;D just get it reanodized...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:25:37
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:29:17
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:30:26
:)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: kaykaybunny on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:33:44
Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...

First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.

Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.

We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.

I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.

Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: surfmurder on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:34:05
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.

Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.

Sounds like the expectations of yourself and others in this thread are the factor that needs to be checked. What isn't promised isn't offered.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:35:13
Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...

First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.

Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.

We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.

I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.

Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.
thank you
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: GaNeBaL on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:39:01
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol

the proto pcb was green, i should expect green pcb in production too right
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:41:51
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

No I get that, but the fact that the IC was vague was what lead people to fantasize, I am 100% sure that this would have not happened if the colours were announced at the very start. If it was "made to be silver with beige keycaps" then why was it not explicitly written instead of "TBA" ? Make it clear from the very start. Like I said, people joined a GB of a board that was not pictured, but all the info, apart from how it looked, was available, exactly the contrary this IC.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Sanctified on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:42:57
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol

the proto pcb was green, i should expect green pcb in production too right

NO the Final PCB is black
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:43:23
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: kaykaybunny on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:44:39
Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...

First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.

Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.

We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.

I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.

Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.
thank you

❤ u're welcome
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: dklein on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:45:10
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

No I get that, but the fact that the IC was vague was what lead people to fantasize, I am 100% sure that this would have not happened if the colours were announced at the very start. If it was "made to be silver with beige keycaps" then why was it not explicitly written instead of "TBA" ? Make it clear from the very start. Like I said, people joined a GB of a board that was not pictured, but all the info, apart from how it looked, was available, exactly the contrary this IC.

TBA doesn't mean "I'm hiding this info for hype"

TBA means "I haven't finalized this detail yet"

If you went wild in your fantasies about what TBA meant, that's on you not ai03
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: pngu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:45:34
In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:45:42
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:47:07
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.

Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.

Sounds like the expectations of yourself and others in this thread are the factor that needs to be checked. What isn't promised isn't offered.

like I said, I'm not interested in the board, I'm just saying this was expected
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Sanctified on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:47:52
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: GaNeBaL on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:48:31
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

when you assume you make an ass out of u and me
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:49:17
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway

If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:50:10
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Again, no reason. You thought up something. Colors weren't announced, specifically mentioned as "to be announced" in fact, to repeat myself you imagined something and then complain that your fantasies didn't come true.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:51:07
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol
Again, no reason. You thought up something. Colors weren't announced, specifically mentioned as "to be announced" in fact, to repeat myself you imagined something and then complain that your fantasies didn't come true.

I actually didn't complain about the colours at all.

I didn't imagine anything. I looked at a photo of a black keyboard provided by the designer.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Myoth on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:51:33
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

No I get that, but the fact that the IC was vague was what lead people to fantasize, I am 100% sure that this would have not happened if the colours were announced at the very start. If it was "made to be silver with beige keycaps" then why was it not explicitly written instead of "TBA" ? Make it clear from the very start. Like I said, people joined a GB of a board that was not pictured, but all the info, apart from how it looked, was available, exactly the contrary this IC.

TBA doesn't mean "I'm hiding this info for hype"

TBA means "I haven't finalized this detail yet"

If you went wild in your fantasies about what TBA meant, that's on you not ai03

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying if you hype something up, once everything is set in stone, you're going to get disappointement lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:52:26
Imagine keeping this thread so active that it gets pinned at top slot of IC forum for hours upon hours...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: whykayallday on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:52:50
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway

If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.

"you're not giving me what I want waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:53:27
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway

If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.

"you're not giving me what I want waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

"I'm a fanboy and can't handle criticism waaaaaah"
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:54:33
Imagine keeping this thread so active that it gets pinned at top slot of IC forum for hours upon hours...

Imagine having this thread blow up to this degree over literally 2 people expressing mild criticism towards a group buy lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: trg1234 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:56:15
i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about aio3. u wouldnt say this **** to him in real life, hes jacked. not only that but he has the freshest board manus, supports gasket mounts and gets featured by the hottest content creators. yall are pathetic lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:56:57
It's still going, let's GOOOO
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 16:59:55
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: BapoDonu on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:00:31
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...
Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol
No legit reason, no. Was color mentioned? No. Do we all know that lighting affects photos? Yes. Did you just assume something as fact with no official info stated? Yes.

Where did I say anything about assuming as a fact? You said there is no reason to believe something. I said there is based on what was provided. I enver said it was a guarantee or a promise. But your claim that there was absoultely no reason to believe there would be a black version is ridiculous.

I mean, the fact that literally every keyboard that comes out these days offers black as an option is enough reason to believe there would be a black version lol

Youre free to believe whatever you want, you can't blame the designer for not including it if you're just speculating anyway

If the designer provides a picture of what looks like a black board but is really just a poorly lit grey board and makes no mention of it, it's also his fault.

"you're not giving me what I want waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

"I'm a fanboy and can't handle criticism waaaaaah"
:blank:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: elmo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:00:41
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.
You can't expect kids that are completely new to this hobby to understand this...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: mysticworks on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:01:56
what am i reading
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:03:44
what am i reading

GH thread of the year
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:07:41
A bit outside of my price range but I'm sure this will have no trouble selling in seconds.

I've really liked using my polaris keyboard so far, ai03 designs a really nice board!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ttom on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:10:16
bruh if you donít like it donít buy it. thereís no point in any of this arguing when details are final - donít expect your (1 personís) wants to affect a 100 unit per vendor GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:10:29
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

I actually want to apologize to ai03 not that it will count for anything at this point or that he would even want an apology or care, but despite the nonsense that this has devolved into, I'm actually looking forward to this board. I just cannot stand such a vitriolic reaction to literally 2 people expressing mild criticism to something. It's complete insanity.

Emotions run high on all ends and I will take full responsibility for acting on such emotions through out this topic. Just wish others would do the same.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:12:13
Imagine keeping this thread so active that it gets pinned at top slot of IC forum for hours upon hours...

Imagine having this thread blow up to this degree over literally 2 people expressing mild criticism towards a group buy lol

The amount of gaslighting is out of control. It's as if seeing a black color and expecting a black color is so unfathomable as if I had asked for a rainbow. Last I checked black is pretty common.  There was no intent to cause drama, but people freaking out over someone being disappointed of a reasonable expectation is truly ridiculous.  If people are this confused then I think the initial point remains that there was poor communication.

Even now the initial post has not been updated. Just communicate better and get over it. Move on.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: productkun on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:12:21
i think its hilarious u kids talking **** about aio3. u wouldnt say this **** to him in real life, hes jacked. not only that but he has the freshest board manus, supports gasket mounts and gets featured by the hottest content creators. yall are pathetic lol
Semphis copypaste best there is.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:14:47
BROOOO

I haven't paid $750 for this board yet, but I demand the vendor to bend to my will and make any color I god damn want. I wasted 6 months looking at this black board. God damn it!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:18:42
BROOOO

I haven't paid $750 for this board yet, but I demand the vendor to bend to my will and make any color I god damn want. I wasted 6 months looking at this black board. God damn it!!!!!!!

I guess I should apologize for expressing my interest in an interest check.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ThePanduuh on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:22:30
TO PAGE 9 WE GO
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:24:49
BROOOO

I haven't paid $750 for this board yet, but I demand the vendor to bend to my will and make any color I god damn want. I wasted 6 months looking at this black board. God damn it!!!!!!!

I guess I should apologize for expressing my interest in an interest check.

Yesn't
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: keyrinn on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:31:45
Wait guys, I just had an epiphany - If I say that all this time I believed that ai03 was personally gonna give me an andromeda for free, it's gonna happen right? Wow, this is so awesome. Can't believe it works like that!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:39:15
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: LOLWK on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:42:11
Give the kid a break. He doesn't seem to understand the concept of prototyping.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:44:22


i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it?

Unnecessary attacks from the likes of you escalated this post.  I merely expressed my own disappointment at a keyboard I had been looking forward for a long time, and I got greeted with attacks as if I had committed murder.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:45:31


i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it?

Unnecessary attacks from the likes of you escalated this post.  I merely expressed my own disappointment at a keyboard I had been looking forward for a long time, and I got greeted with attacks as if I had committed murder.
I mean I'm not attacking you. I'm just telling it how it is. I'm not upset, and I'm glad your trying to make amends for your reaction. Just tried to give you some more info, to which you reacted by claiming it's nonsense. Not sure how you want me to take that?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:48:34
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.

I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw, that's all. I'm being as reasonable and civil as I can be at this point. I actually really feel bad about being a participant in turning this into what it is.

 I'm not saying it's a guarantee or should be expected. I simply don't think it's outlandish to see a colour being promoted and think it could possibly be in the GB. I don't think it's outlandish or crazy to think black will be a possible option in any keyboard GB, especially when I see a picture posted of what looks like a black board. I just don't understand how anyone could act like these are unreasonable things to expect.

Is if my fault for expecting it when nothing was confirmed? Absoultely. But I don't think it's as ridiculous of an assumption as many of you are making it out to be, that is all.

I'm not even mad that black isn't an option btw. This just turn into an argument on priceable rather than this GB in particular.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: LOLWK on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:54:07

Unnecessary attacks from the likes of you escalated this post.  I merely expressed my own disappointment at a keyboard I had been looking forward for a long time, and I got greeted with attacks as if I had committed murder.


I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Hmmmm
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 17:54:16
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.

I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw, that's all. I'm being as reasonable and civil as I can be at this point. I actually really feel bad about being a participant in turning this into what it is.

 I'm not saying it's a guarantee or should be expected. I simply don't think it's outlandish to see a colour being promoted and think it could possibly be in the GB. I don't think it's outlandish or crazy to think black will be a possible option in any keyboard GB, especially when I see a picture posted of what looks like a black board. I just don't understand how anyone could act like these are unreasonable things to expect.

Is if my fault for expecting it when nothing was confirmed? Absoultely. But I don't think it's as ridiculous of an assumption as many of you are making it out to be, that is all.

I'm not even mad that black isn't an option btw. This just turn into an argument on priceable rather than this GB in particular.
I mean it's been less about the principle and more about how you approached it and responded. A cooler head and more leveled approach probably wouldn't have devolved into this.

"Darn, I thought this was coming in black. Oh well, GL with GB!"

Reasonable, friendly, gets your point across, and saves face.

It's all good though. Everything is an experience to learn from.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:02:19
So there's no black and the pcb isn't green? /s

Cant wait for this beautiful board!

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:03:29
i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!!  :cool:
i am fuming  :-X

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.
I don't want to ruin this fantasy you created, and if you'd taken the time to learn about the hobby you'd probably know this. But there are many times protos are ordered in colors not available during the GB. It's pretty common. Many times red is used for influencer proto or first round builds.

So what you're telling me is if someone made a proto in red, sent it to an influencer to be promoted, I would have NO REASON to believe that red is a possibility in the group buy?

What am I even reading at this point?

This topic has completely turned into nonsense on all ends

Uh. Yes? It's actually quite common for protos not to be final colors. Sometimes it's designers choice. Other times it's because the color doesn't come out the way they wanted. Sometimes they're trying a color they want to run on a future board. I have a DevestatingTKL in a green that'll likely never be run. And those who've spent time in the community prior to just reacting, have seen this countless times, and know colors aren't final until they're announced.

I don't see why this is nonsense? I mean except maybe because your willfully not wanting to accept it? I mean sure, you can hope that the color makes it to the production run, and the fact that it exists makes it more likely, sure. But it being posted somewhere doesn't mean that it's guaranteed, and it's definitely not due to "poor planning" or a badly run group buy.

I don't think it's an unreasonable conclusion to draw, that's all. I'm being as reasonable and civil as I can be at this point. I actually really feel bad about being a participant in turning this into what it is.

 I'm not saying it's a guarantee or should be expected. I simply don't think it's outlandish to see a colour being promoted and think it could possibly be in the GB. I don't think it's outlandish or crazy to think black will be a possible option in any keyboard GB, especially when I see a picture posted of what looks like a black board. I just don't understand how anyone could act like these are unreasonable things to expect.

Is if my fault for expecting it when nothing was confirmed? Absoultely. But I don't think it's as ridiculous of an assumption as many of you are making it out to be, that is all.

I'm not even mad that black isn't an option btw. This just turn into an argument on priceable rather than this GB in particular.
I mean it's been less about the principle and more about how you approached it and responded. A cooler head and more leveled approach probably wouldn't have devolved into this.

"Darn, I thought this was coming in black. Oh well, GL with GB!"

Reasonable, friendly, gets your point across, and saves face.

It's all good though. Everything is an experience to learn from.

I agree, but I think that goes both ways with the reactions in this topic. Keep in mind this was me and one other person being critical and a horde of people ganging up on us. Hard to keep it cool in that situation. Not an excuse, just some added context.

What really set me off was actually trying to turn it back and be civil and calm when asking ai03 about the pictures of what looked to be the black version, but the response from him came off as condescending. If I perceived it incorrectly, that's my mistake. If it was meant to be condescending I totally get it at this point and was most likely done out of frustration. It's frustrating to see people being snarky and critical towards things you've worked hard on and we are all human. In the same way I lashed out over frustration, I can see him responding because of the same reason, which again, I totally get.

I'm sure he has put lots of hard work into this project and I don't want to take anything away from him.

In the end, he will sell all these boards and people will love them and everyone will laugh at me and the other dude who started this **** show. Not much can be done at this point but apologize again.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:08:32

Please do not argue with the color options. Reanodize, powdercoat , or cerakote.
Like come on guys.. 

If you want a keyboard in this specific color. Work for it. You get what you get and you don't throw a fit.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:09:43
Seriously.

Stop complaining
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:13:00
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:14:57
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?

 Ai03 can never have the black color option  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: grimis on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:15:11
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?

Make a black Andromeda

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist lol That was just a joke!

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:16:11
Creates best keyboards. Creates best GH threads. What can Ai03 not do?

Make a black Andromeda

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist lol That was just a joke!

I was joking too LOL
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Juggy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:23:40
I'm sure many people will enjoy this, good luck with GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 October 2020, 18:40:53
there are a lot of people worth ****ting on in the community and none of them are named ai03
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Auxo on Sun, 18 October 2020, 19:54:42
The audacity of this community lol
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:16:38
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!

I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:19:25
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!

I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161)
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:23:11
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!

I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161)

Thank you! Is it just me or is it a bit of a blue gray? That does look nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:26:41
Thank you for making nice things Ai03 and staying true to your vision. I hope I can get one of these if possible!

I'm just trying to decide on gray vs. silver. Will there be any pictures or renders of gray by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NkiCv2WME&start=161)

Thank you! Is it just me or is it a bit of a blue gray? That does look nice!

So hard to say without knowing the lighting setup. Likely it's cool harsh fluorescent lighting, might give everything a blue tinge. Ano is hard to photograph accurately because of it's reflective properties.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:28:11
I understand photographing things can be difficult. I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect with the grey version. Despite my criticisms and disappointment at colour choices, I fully intend to try and get in on this board. But I was learning towards silver over grey, unless this is almost like a charcoal grey which it looks like in the pictures.

Will you have more photos available before the GB?

I highly recommend avoiding this GB if cannot be satisfied unless a certain shade of grey.
My prototype unit is currently on its way back following display at Maker Faire Tokyo, after which it will be quarantined for a while to disinfect thoroughly. Therefore, it is unlikely that I will be able to photograph the board before GB, especially in enough specific lighting conditions to convey to you the exact shade of the board through your monitor.

I'll be avoiding it now due to your arrogance. Which ultimately won't matter in the end, but it's gross how slight criticism towards something results in this kind of response from not only community members, which I can expect, but the actual designers.

Imagine responding this way to someone who would like a bit more info before dropping $800 on a keyboard. Imagine getting upset that someone said this GB seems poorly planned when you won't even be able to show people when they are getting in one of two options you are providing.

You should imagine not being a nutjob first.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 18 October 2020, 20:50:29
This thread is a great example of why some designers don't bother posting interest checks anymore.

Thankfully most people in this community get it, and appreciate what ai03 is tring to do with this keyboard.

Board looks great, ai03. Please ignore all this entitled whining being framed as mild criticism.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 18 October 2020, 22:47:56
Oh man I'm loving the look of the gray one. Probably won't get lucky enough to get one of these but great job with this board. Definitely my favorite looking board of 2020.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: 2Cas on Sun, 18 October 2020, 23:05:18
I'm here to pretend to complain about the giant mob of 2 people whining, but I'm actually here to bump the IC and get +1 post count (road to puddsy). Also nice rectangle.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ProlificPanda on Sun, 18 October 2020, 23:34:02
Can you rename the board to Andramada?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Artemie on Mon, 19 October 2020, 01:24:04
I'm here to pretend to complain about the giant mob of 2 people whining, but I'm actually here to bump the IC and get +1 post count (road to puddsy). Also nice rectangle.
Only 11,577 posts to go. Youíre getting there bud.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 19 October 2020, 03:34:43
With the same weight as the Polaris and Vega have, combined with little seperation between the left and right side, the keyboard looks cheap to me. I'll be passing on this one, it's nice no doubt, it's just not for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Summit-End Sculpted TKL
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 19 October 2020, 03:36:38
All I want for christmas is feet better than bumpons
Make a longer ones plz. It makes big difference

What about 8į angle isnít it a bit steep

I opted for bump-on style feet in this design due to their non-impeding visuals against the case design and isolation performance.
Typing angle will be your preference.

I recommend not buying this board if you do not like it.
"I reccomend not buying something you don't want." -ai03.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 19 October 2020, 04:31:13
@ai03, would it be possible to arrange for extra PCBs / plates to be available afterwards? I usually buy extra, but at this price, I may want to spread the expenses.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tsolin01 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:18:45
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: PleasantChaos on Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:48:29
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Lulzthax_ on Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:51:36
This thread will be proof that reputable designers in the future will not even bother with an IC because we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Rico on Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:51:56
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

Maybe you prefer clacky boards, at the end it is a matter of preference and there is nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tsolin01 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 17:46:04
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.

I didn't say anything about hollow. It sounded really muted which I guess is preference if you like that. Looking at let's say a Keycult, you have more of a sound signature than just something silent.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 18:23:32
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.

boards can have plenty of acoustic characteristics, hollow is not necessarily the inverse of muted
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: lbassett21 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:16:49
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other boards to have a $750 price tag and only silver/gray...I thought for sure there would at least be a black.

I think it's safe to say this one wasn't planned well and got away from designer at some point. :/

Just buy an 8x.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ThePanduuh on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:39:12
Puddsy with the best quote here. Ai03 is doing great things for the community. I don't want to be on Ai03's ****list though I probably am already.

road to puddsy
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: tommyhongg on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:42:21
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

So you WANT it to sound hollow? Thats weirdchamp - the boarded sounded great.

Plenty of keyboards don't sound muted but also don't sound hollow either. WeirdChamp
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:44:46
HI guys, it's tree leaf.

Something I'd like to say if you are complaining -

Nobody has taken your money yet. You should not feel offended.
The designer's view of the board doesn't match up with your expectations. If your expectations are high reaching, please buy a different board and stop whining.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:45:29
Puddsy with the best quote here. Ai03 is doing great things for the community. I don't want to be on Ai03's ****list though I probably am already.

road to puddsy

Why do you strive to become the Forbidden Name That Must Never Be Spoken?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ThePanduuh on Mon, 19 October 2020, 21:49:29
Why do you strive to become the Forbidden Name That Must Never Be Spoken?

post count
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 20 October 2020, 00:38:37
I'm here to pretend to complain about the giant mob of 2 people whining, but I'm actually here to bump the IC and get +1 post count (road to puddsy). Also nice rectangle.

Post 'nice' on every IC  ;D

Memes aside - Ai has done a fantastic job. The criticism is unwarranted. Pay the man, or miss the GB. It's not that difficult
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: steezkeez on Tue, 20 October 2020, 11:55:37
this thread is goated
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: unknownh on Tue, 20 October 2020, 15:36:31
ai03 is such an entitled *******, I want my PCB in PINK and PINK only! Not some CHEAP GREEN PCB! Oh also, this whole thing seems so so poorly planned, for 800$ I expected this keyboard to have a colour matched option to every single JWK switch released in the past year as well as ones that will be released in the next two years. I thought this board would cost $200 and I missed out on so many group buys because of you ai03, and you should be ashamed of that.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: paqji on Tue, 20 October 2020, 16:27:47
This is honestly such a huge disappointment. I've been waiting on this since day one and even passing on other headphones to have a keyboard instead of Campfire Audio Andromeda 2020s, AND it also comes in TWO colors instead of just green? AND it's 200 dollars cheaper than the IEMs? How dare you. :100:
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: stimuz on Wed, 21 October 2020, 05:03:35
Just checked out Apiary's build and sound test of this and is it supposed to sound so muted? most people seemed happy with the sound but it didn't really sound good to me at all and that was without the foam...

I can't agree with that. Theres a sharp clack, just not much resonance in the board. I think it sounds very nice, though I prefer louder boards I can respect that sound vs the borderline annoying sounding ultra muted keyboards that sound like gentle taps. Plus she doesn't seem like a fast typer or a heavy typer. It would sound a lot different with more force in bottoming out. That said, I do wanna hear it with faster, less controlled typing. If it still sounds great with hard bottom outs then good job to ai.


edit: watched rest of VOD, I think it sounds great. Gonna be honest though, I don't like how it looks, but that's super subjective.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 21 October 2020, 07:49:59
I'm disappointed this only comes in WKL but hey, guess what... the group buy isn't being run for me personally and I haven't handed over any money so I'm owed nothing. Plus it saves me money :D On the bright side if you don't like this there are PLENTY of other GBs running all the time. In the meanwhile I will cross my fingers for a full winkey / non-WKL run of this in the future but if that doesn't happen it's all good.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:30:17
price = pain
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 23 October 2020, 16:44:35
One last update regarding extra part details:

Extra PCB kits (Main PCB, extra daughterboard, and interconnect cable) will be available at 60USD per kit.
Obviously, base kit will include one set of the listed parts.

Extra plates (and corresponding gaskets) will be available in the following variants:
- Aluminum, black (+45USD)
- Polycarbonate, smoky black (+40USD)
- FR4, black (+35USD)
The stock plate included in base kit is aluminum as a very balanced option between sound and feel.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: quazikun on Fri, 23 October 2020, 16:50:52
One last update regarding extra part details:

Extra PCB kits (Main PCB, extra daughterboard, and interconnect cable) will be available at 60USD per kit.
Obviously, base kit will include one set of the listed parts.

Extra plates (and corresponding gaskets) will be available in the following variants:
- Aluminum, black (+45USD)
- Polycarbonate, smoky black (+40USD)
- FR4, black (+35USD)
The stock plate included in base kit is aluminum as a very balanced option between sound and feel.
Do we have a chance to add after ordering a kit or do extras have to be added at the time of ordering? Excited for sale!
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: DonkeyD on Sat, 24 October 2020, 04:43:26
i will win.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Jigster on Sat, 24 October 2020, 06:34:02
Hi,

Noobie here. Really stoked about this board. May I ask what's the Deskey site for the Andromeda GB? I know its on the Deskey TaoBao store but I can't find the store.
Appreciate if anyone can direct me to the site/page/link.. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 07:19:20
Hi,

Noobie here. Really stoked about this board. May I ask what's the Deskey site for the Andromeda GB? I know its on the Deskey TaoBao store but I can't find the store.
Appreciate if anyone can direct me to the site/page/link.. Thank you.

Kevinplus (of Deskeys) stated on their Discord server that they will be releasing the link at the last minute at their server and my own to avoid the listing getting botted.


Also, ETA for delivery has been set to May 2021 for the time being.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Jigster on Sat, 24 October 2020, 07:41:35
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: bball2 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 10:06:58
Looks like all sold out in 5 mins, but hundreds more people waiting in queue :-O
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 24 October 2020, 10:10:36
Just here for the salt, Discord losing it
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: asmashedpumpkin on Sat, 24 October 2020, 10:16:32
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that itís been sold out.  I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page weíre I could at least be able to put in my credit card info. 
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Hellenic94 on Sat, 24 October 2020, 10:30:08
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that itís been sold out.  I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page weíre I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.

and thats your first mistake man, you need to have everything before hand ready for autofill with 1 click checkout
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: MacSurfy on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:16:00
oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Crushed dreams ..

GG!

Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:16:48
Haha. At least there will be future rounds.
Title: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:24:37
No worries, there will be plenty for sale for 3K when they start dropping...


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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 24 October 2020, 13:32:17
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that itís been sold out.  I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page weíre I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.

and thats your first mistake man, you need to have everything before hand ready for autofill with 1 click checkout

That's not even remotely true. With Cannonkeys' new queue system, having your CC already added isn't going to increase your chances. You have to make it through the raffle system first, and if there's 2000 people waiting for 100 boards, you're gonna have to get lucky as it is.

I'm not saying the system is bad by any means, but saying that having your CC autofill is going to increase your chances is completely false.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: NoteMakoti on Sat, 24 October 2020, 14:07:31
If the Andromeda got blown up like this, there's no way I'm gonna luck out and get a Bauer lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 24 October 2020, 14:39:00
Man this is so discouraging when you follow a build for months, set your calendar and alarm up to remind you, then wait in a digital que for 5 minutes only to get a message that itís been sold out.  I thought for sure at this price I would have a chance to get to a page weíre I could at least be able to put in my credit card info.

and thats your first mistake man, you need to have everything before hand ready for autofill with 1 click checkout

That's not how CannonKeys system works
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: ljyel on Sat, 24 October 2020, 18:06:56
Couldn't snatch one this time but can't wait for r2 to come along! Nice curves
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: LOLWK on Sat, 24 October 2020, 18:57:34
Couldnt get past CK's first wall.

Ill be waiting for Andro Ultra.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Sat, 24 October 2020, 20:53:47
sad i didn't have the funds available for this, this time around. hopefully we'll get a r2 one day
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: datfroyodoe on Sat, 24 October 2020, 23:24:14
i will win.
R ya winnin son?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Hugs94 on Sun, 25 October 2020, 15:52:12
Make a black Andromeda

Why do you insist on having a black Andromeda? What if he didn't like how black turned out? Are you projecting?
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Domantas on Sun, 25 October 2020, 17:39:21
Expensive boi, a bit out of my budget
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: Sycomore on Mon, 26 October 2020, 00:04:03
Make a black Andromeda

Why do you insist on having a black Andromeda? What if he didn't like how black turned out? Are you projecting?

Ai03 literally said that black was written of essentially at the very start of the project due to it being muted and not showing detail as much as grey/silver.
Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: JJ on Mon, 26 October 2020, 01:31:33
If anyone wants to give up their spot I'll take it.

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Title: Re: [IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24
Post by: lysergic acid on Thu, 29 October 2020, 09:58:18
If anyone wants to give up their spot I'll take it.

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5k :)) /s


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