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Title: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (New prototype photos)
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:26:55


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E c l i p s e
by snurrebassen
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GMK Apollo by octix




Hello I'm very excited to share a keyboard I've been working on.
I'm a graphic designer/3D artist, and I've been into keyboards for a few years now. I've been experimenting my way with building a variety of keyboards,
trying to find what I like best, like we all do. I've been working with a friend of mine, w3bb0, who's doing the PCB design and together we wanted to make a 40% TKL Style keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101525.msg2813330#msg2813330/).
However we decided to move over to a bit more functional and accessible layout.



(https://i.imgur.com/mbHv6GJ.png)

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Prototype (v2) photos from the factory:

(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)



► Gasket mount ◄
►Seamless ◄
► Indicator LEDs ◄
► Internal weight ◄
► Centered USB-port ◄
► 7 degree typing angle ◄



I'm focusing on achieving beautiful aesthetics, a solid and compact sound and a pleasant typing feel.
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
I really want to try to cover the main alternative layouts, such as split shift, split backspace and maybe even WKL, depending on responses of the form.



Moving forward:


☑ Listen to feedback and finish the design
☑ Order first prototype of PCB
☑ Order prototypes of the case in various colors
☑ Implement changes based on how the prototype looks, feels and sounds
☐ Start GB process
☐ Experience delays and setbacks but push on







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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: elmo on Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:39:45
nice!

since cygnus is most likely not going to happen anymore i'm definitely interested in this one!  :D

Edit: It would be nice to be able to select more than one color and plate option in the IC form :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:02:07
I absolutely LOVE this! Wouldn't it be considered a 65%, though?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:02:48
Congrats on the design, I like it so much.

2 questions:

Will it be ALPS compatible? I see that the PCB is, but will you do the plates as well?
Will you include the possibility to do split spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Quinella on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:06:00
another frl tkl surfaces
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:12:30
With HHKB blocker option, this would rival TMO50 as my favourite layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Erigorin on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:21:10
Oof, interested!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:42:17
Finally new F-row less TKL! YEEEEESSSSSS!!!! :D

Few things - how high is front? Like 18mm or so? I hope not too high.

Would you consider some dark grey or dark blue colors?

Will there be hot-swap option or just solder?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:58:04
A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: o3okevin on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:06:43
V nice
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: mydens on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:08:52
Stainless steel case option & hot swap PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: GaNeBaL on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:10:27
ne wkl renders avail and compatibility with cygnus pcb?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: idkpotato117 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:11:07
Oh I love this absolutely
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: VXQN on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:49:01
Hell yes; I like this a lot. The only thing I'm not so sure about, but I'm sure you're not gonna change it, is the rounded corners. I prefer a squarer board but not enough to put me off purchasing!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:53:35
Honestly, a pretty tight layout, good job mate  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: heyjaykay on Thu, 20 February 2020, 09:00:32
Got me split with the hiney tkl one with this beaut. Pros and cons for both.

Really digging this layout idea. Form needs to be tweaked slightly tho, as what some other users have mentioned!! Super hyped

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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:03:05
This is a definite buy for me if the corners are changed to a more square shape. AND, show off the weight, or just add in the logo/detail onto the bottom piece. I hate it when a KB hides a beautiful weight inside the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:07:09
Just to counter, I'm definitely a fan of hidden weights that you never see anyway. Honestly if it cuts down on the cost, it doesn't need to be engraved either, though a symbol/badge on the outside would be cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Han on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:13:28
Really digging this idea. Can't wait to see the progress.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:16:38
ne wkl renders avail and compatibility with cygnus pcb?
No, I'm afraid not! We are not associated or working with the Cygnus creators, we're making our own PCB! Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!

nice!

since cygnus is most likely not going to happen anymore i'm definitely interested in this one!  :D

Edit: It would be nice to be able to select more than one color and plate option in the IC form :)

Done! Thanks for the heads up!

Congrats on the design, I like it so much.

2 questions:

Will it be ALPS compatible? I see that the PCB is, but will you do the plates as well?
Will you include the possibility to do split spacebar?

Thank you and good to hear!

I think we can look into making alps an option for sure, I would be happy to include more folks!
I don't rule it out doing a split spacbar layout an option in the final GB!

Finally new F-row less TKL! YEEEEESSSSSS!!!! :D

Few things - how high is front? Like 18mm or so? I hope not too high.

Would you consider some dark grey or dark blue colors?

Will there be hot-swap option or just solder?

- The front is now 20mm, but i'm gonna try squeeze it down to 18 if I can! It's definitely more optimal to have it around 18mm for sure.
- Yes maybe, very possible!
- For now we're only looking at a solderable PCB, but nothing is certain yet.

A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
Right now the PCB renders are mostly to visualize the silk design, so yes in the end we are going to support PCB mounted switches as well.
I've gone ahead and looked at multiple keyboard mounting types, trying out different ideas. This one is inspired by the Oxalys mounting system, by Salvun. It was just a mounting system I became very curious about trying. The plate isn't directly screwed onto the bottom, it will be held tightly together by the screws holding the top and bottom together.

///

Thank you for all your interest and comments!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: elmo on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:51:43
another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: breckstar on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:57:07
Would love to see this in like 3-5į option instead of 7į. To me, 7 works fine for GMK but is too steep for SA and 0-5 works well for SA.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: valniro on Thu, 20 February 2020, 11:01:10
Love the rounded corners, awesome design mate!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Starston3 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 11:37:48
The plate seems to indicate forced full backspace but the pcb looks like it has the option for split?

Will the plate support split backspace or will it be fixed backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Thu, 20 February 2020, 12:04:35
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 20 February 2020, 12:51:46
A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.

I'm definitely into this layout!! Please allow for pcb-mount/screw-in stabilizers. Zeal screw-in stabs are incredible and I put them on every board that I can. Also, I agree that the internal weight isn't necessary. The board will still be plenty solid without a built in weight.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:01:08
Also, while this is a small detail, I've always had better luck with strips of rubber on the bottom of the case rather than small rounds. For example all Rama Works boards that I can think of and the NovelKeys NK65 have two strips of rubber running the length of the keyboard rather than four dots in the corners. While the Keycult No 2 kept four pads rather than 2, it went from dots to strips. I find that the strips give the board more traction and are less likely to accidentally come off. I also personally think strips look significantly better/more premium than the dots, in part I guess because the dots can be purchased at any hardware store. I'm not sure how well this would work with the layout of screws on the bottom of the case, but I thought I'd share.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:13:37
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)


I second this. It would also allow for a bit more physical separation of the arrow key cluster, which at least to me is a plus.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:39:47
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Missingnumber on Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:47:21
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:00:29
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zacharius on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:42:47
Oof this is nice


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:24:55
Had no idea j was looking for this till just now. I agree with the internal weight design. It would be nice on the outside. But iirc abec did something similar with the 45-ATS. I think to keep a cleaner body. I'm about this either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:29:22
Great design.  Simple and elegant.  Love the corner radius and bezel widths.  Clean bottom is nice too (i mean... twss?)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: iaman on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:47:05
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(
idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?

I'm here for matching the bezel size with the between-clusters space if possible
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 20 February 2020, 16:23:23
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(
idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?

I'm here for matching the bezel size with the between-clusters space if possible
That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I still like it thin. Feel like it fits the theme of a slimmer TKL
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: badboy731 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 16:28:36
I think this is the board I saw on instagram? if so very nice! will be watching
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: macclack on Thu, 20 February 2020, 18:07:00
I love this so much
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: JayBeamz on Thu, 20 February 2020, 19:28:30
Very nice design!!! Loving the F-rowless tkl layout for sure!
That removable plate on the bottom tho? If you got it show it off and put it on the keebutt lol.
Looks great either way. Ill def be following this one!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: TomePls on Thu, 20 February 2020, 20:18:37
I made an account just to say that this layout and design is wonderful.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: victorpre on Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:04:25
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:16:34
I liked the Blackbird layout when I bought into the GB awhile ago but realized the numpad wasn't entirely necessary. If I didn't play my one game that requires the F-row I'd be in on this, but I really think that this layout is very practical and I appreciate its design.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: PikaJoyce on Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:24:56
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)

+1 for this.

Or just in general making the gaps consistent with one another. Otherwise, super interested and this is super cute!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:06:42
Yep, matching thick bezels would be nice. So middle one a bit wider to match outer one.
Maybe bottom plate could be seamless as well? Like, even with edges?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Quinella on Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:53:41
another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: demonahz on Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:00:41
I really liked the idea and design. I'm in this one depending on the price, of course  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:04:10
Also, while this is a small detail, I've always had better luck with strips of rubber on the bottom of the case rather than small rounds. For example all Rama Works boards that I can think of and the NovelKeys NK65 have two strips of rubber running the length of the keyboard rather than four dots in the corners. While the Keycult No 2 kept four pads rather than 2, it went from dots to strips. I find that the strips give the board more traction and are less likely to accidentally come off. I also personally think strips look significantly better/more premium than the dots, in part I guess because the dots can be purchased at any hardware store. I'm not sure how well this would work with the layout of screws on the bottom of the case, but I thought I'd share.

Thank you for your comment here and on the google form! I have already thought about looking into strips instead of circular bumpers. It wouldn't make sense to have cheap bumpers on a premium board like this, so I'm most definitely gonna look into it!
Oh and screw in stabs support is definitely coming!

I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)


Yes, after a lot of comments on it, I realize i haven't thought about that fact. I'm gonna look into changing it, see how it looks. Will post new pictures once I've worked on it! :)

The plate seems to indicate forced full backspace but the pcb looks like it has the option for split?

Will the plate support split backspace or will it be fixed backspace?

w3bb0 told me he can make this work, so yes. Gonna try make split backspace!

I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Yes, I will most definitely not do this on my own, hahah! I'm already working with mykeyboard.eu with another project, and they will be working with me on this one too.
And yes, going to reconsider the weight. Having an engraved internal weight doesn't make as much sense. Might look into having it as an option and instead engrave the top part somehow.

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:08:17
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Soon you won't have to imagine it! Gonna do some more renders of alternative layouts next week.

another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic

thank you, glad to hear that. And i agree. I'm kinda surprised we don't have more of this layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: victorpre on Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:15:42
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Soon you won't have to imagine it! Gonna do some more renders of alternative layouts next week.

another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic

thank you, glad to hear that. And i agree. I'm kinda surprised we don't have more of this layout.
If we can achieve WKL AND split spacebar (as I saw it's an idea on the IC) I'll just have to throw my money at you

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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: PocketAces on Fri, 21 February 2020, 07:36:20
Iím such a sucker for seamless case design. Iím not even usually into TKL but not having the F row just makes it that much more attractive to me. Iím probably in


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:36:28
Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Jaltr on Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:48:32
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: lunr on Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:52:36
definitely add wkl version.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:58:54
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers
Feel like that's just the way it has to be these days with the massive influx of people. Only a couple of boards as or late have been open ended group buys
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: waymon on Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:28:32
Hope to join this as my first group buy.  Beautiful board
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Jaltr on Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:41:37
Yeah, it makes total sense. Maybe I'm too slow for these limited quantity gbs.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: hkiri on Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:08:46
definitely add wkl version.

This.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ptrick3 on Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:12:47
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:32:26
definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 21 February 2020, 14:14:37
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.
Thanks for the heads up! I apparently set it to expire after one day. Fixed now!

definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)

Looking into making a 6.25u WKL version, so that I can put it on the same plate as the standard layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: FRANCO on Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:08:48
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: astronavy on Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:15:53
wow, looks cool and solid, and gasket in addition!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Agpatel on Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:05:00
Very interested in this! Love to see a hot swap option.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: zekth on Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:30:56
You got my feedback ;)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 23 February 2020, 10:55:24
FYI: this layout is called "70%". (Actually, it is one of several layouts called "70%")

Is 1.5mm PC plate durable enough?

Designed in Norway, and no ISO support?! No support for stepped Caps Lock?!
I'm happy to see that the USB port is broken out to a separate PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 23 February 2020, 11:02:30
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 23 February 2020, 12:17:29
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 23 February 2020, 12:30:55
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: DrHigsby on Sun, 23 February 2020, 13:16:45
IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 23 February 2020, 23:35:21
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Randalljai on Mon, 24 February 2020, 00:38:28
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:00:58
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:07:00
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.

I just realized this! Gonna change it for the GB at least, sounds so much better.

IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
Thank you for filling it out! <3
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:25:16
Filled out the IC form a couple of days ago but keep coming back to look at the nice renders! I hope this lilac colour will make it as an option for the GB...  haven't dared get a purple board yet but that colour looks mighty nice in the render at least.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:26:00
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: frob on Mon, 24 February 2020, 04:29:12
Does it support ISO?
If so, I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Migi on Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:50:24
...
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
...
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: MajorKoos on Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:51:24
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.

I also prefer winkey, but it's less of a mouthful to pronounce.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 27 February 2020, 05:37:14
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/682319575463100442/unknown.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/zxcCWoa.jpg)

This plate will support:

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server (https://discord.gg/7avjFdA) dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:12:45
It all looks amazing, looking forward to it :)
Hopefully you will be able to run this GB this year, like maybe Q2-3, to get it done and delivered by Q4.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: yhehdgjs on Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:41:55
Interesting board!

Would like to see with some badge on the board rather than the names.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Joeni on Thu, 27 February 2020, 08:24:08
I'm so in!

I love the look of this, having just the 60% keys with the nav and arrow clusters makes it look very sleek and tidy.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: tuxkey on Thu, 27 February 2020, 15:42:35
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.

One of my first thoughts was how would it look with a bit more space between the arrow cluster say same thickness as the bezels.
Just out of curiosity..
but the one thing i would like to see is this board at KBDfans.. or at least a eu proxy..
for the weight i would save that ÄÄ so it's more affordable to all of us.
You made such a clean design really good looking now keep the price as low as you can without sacrificing to much..
Good luck and my compliments on the design.. i'm truly impressed
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: tuxkey on Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:11:33
Have bin looking at a couple of other active options.. like the Primatech, the Hiney tkl one, the EO-87..
And when i ask myself which one would you want to see on your desk .. ?? it's this one..
But i do have to admit i like the Hiney side cut-outs or what you might call those..
Makes it easier to grab the board..still really nice board.. and that's coming from a  65% addict..
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:17:22
Hineybush PCB is really nice. A high quality PCB. I recommend it to everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: YoRHannya on Thu, 27 February 2020, 23:55:17
I really like this design. Sign me up, I am definitely interested.

Interested in seeing what the final colors chosen will be, too.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: d.caminero on Fri, 28 February 2020, 05:15:28
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/682319575463100442/unknown.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zxcCWoa.jpg)


This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server (https://discord.gg/7avjFdA) dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Fri, 28 February 2020, 10:58:58
Very nice update. I was on fence to begin with, but now I'm upgraded to totally in. Thank you for universal plate. Also hoping a navy blue or blue-grey color can make it in, but that lilac is VERY handsome indeed.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ironchefmichi on Fri, 28 February 2020, 11:55:11
YES the split spacebar makes this a must buy for me i'm pumped
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 28 February 2020, 13:33:50
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/682319575463100442/unknown.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zxcCWoa.jpg)


This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server (https://discord.gg/7avjFdA) dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)

I see, i havenít thought of that, mostly because I havenít used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates arenít exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: kaisn on Fri, 28 February 2020, 14:18:21
Filled out the form. HHKB top please, pretty please

Great design!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: 1corazon on Sat, 29 February 2020, 04:58:48
Super Keen on this one mate, PLEASE MAKE THIS AND TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: KZzzz on Sun, 01 March 2020, 01:50:21
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Sun, 01 March 2020, 07:21:12
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: FRANCO on Sun, 01 March 2020, 08:52:46
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!

The thicc-er the bezel, the better =)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: KZzzz on Sun, 01 March 2020, 10:45:49
BTW, will this be an unlimited GB?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 01 March 2020, 13:56:26
I see, i havenít thought of that, mostly because I havenít used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates arenít exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can always offer cheaper materials for ALPS plates, or, as I said, I'd pay a bit more to have a proper plate. As I said, if you need some help regarding that just hit me up via PM and I'll give you an insight.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: KEYGEM on Sun, 01 March 2020, 14:14:49
The purple version is pretty nice <3
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: samuelcc on Sun, 01 March 2020, 16:25:30
Love it so much!!
It is nice to see those great feature combined together.
Hope the group buy is going to be unlimited tho..
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: VXQN on Mon, 02 March 2020, 03:40:36
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 02 March 2020, 04:19:03
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ironchefmichi on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:57:20
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
I would also prefer 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: 1corazon on Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:45:12
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:55:58
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards

Why? Out of curiosity? Is this because it would work better for your setup or because youíd like the board to be cheaper by placing the connector on the main pcb rather than a daughter board?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: 1corazon on Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:01:27
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: zakatak on Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:11:00
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:38:10
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.

The main reason for doing a daughterboard is to make the USB port tighter and more tailored to the case. Having an on board USB port is cheaper and simpler in production, but limited in terms of fitting the case! Personally I really like the look of the cable being centered but it would definitely be interesting to try having a slightly off centered port, like the good old IBMs  :-\

Thanks for bringing it up!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:39:20
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Wed, 04 March 2020, 04:09:52
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!

$300-350 would be perfect. We'll see  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: VXQN on Wed, 04 March 2020, 10:16:09
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!

I can't speak definitively, but I think it's generally a 50/50 split! I searched for "split spacebar GMK" on google images and didn't see a clear winner for either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Thu, 05 March 2020, 00:03:54
I hear a lot of people that say this layout is efficient compared to others, but I'm someone who likes the arrow keys separated from the rest of the board. I'm in for one of these for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Thu, 05 March 2020, 02:56:40
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 05 March 2020, 03:46:37
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.

Thank you, I'm glad to hear this!
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.

In terms of logo engraving on the top, I will try to make it an option, same as the weight :)  Some people seem to want a clean top and I totally understand that!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: iaman on Thu, 05 March 2020, 07:34:45
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
🙌🙌🙌 bless
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Charlesxvi on Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:05:40
very interesting design. looking forward to seeing how it turns out!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:19:59
Great design and thank you for ISO.  I would be in for this cute little board if it runs.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Snapple on Fri, 06 March 2020, 06:15:16
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
Great!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Sat, 07 March 2020, 00:38:06
Rgb is nice with hot swap.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Sat, 07 March 2020, 13:31:23
OK, everybody likes, so.. let's do this now! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:22:19
So finally, I feel I've landed on a final design and look. I've experimented with various logo designs on various places on the case and weight, and landed on having a clean looking front and a diagram logo of an eclipse on the weight, which have moved to the outside of the bottom, with screws on the inside, keeping the clean look.

The weight will be optional, if you prefer a clean outside.

(https://i.imgur.com/g2E5Sgv.jpg)

The layouts available (additional to standard ANSI) are:

ISO
(https://i.imgur.com/XAVLZLx.jpg)

WKL
(https://i.imgur.com/zlBLGhg.jpg)

Tsangan
(https://i.imgur.com/2OQXUVL.jpg)

Split Spacebar
(https://i.imgur.com/qUMGTS0.jpg)

Split Backspace
(https://i.imgur.com/ko9NfXa.jpg)

If all goes well, I will be starting the prototyping this week. Stay tuned  :)

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Erigorin on Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:40:45
It looks like there is a small difference between the models used for the renders, they keycaps are positioned differently per layout.

ISO a bit lower and to the right
WKL & Tsangan are the same
Split spacebar a lot lower
Split backspace a bit lower

But besides this, I really like the improved design! Love the new rubber feet strips!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:14:23
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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:20:17
Looks great! Definitely like the new eclipse engraving on the weight, and the rubber feet strips. Can't wait :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:41:43
Tsangan is my choice:)

Can we have a side rendering? So we could see the whole profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:13:42
ISO to go please and a side order of SA Sail to pop on top.  Noice.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:20:00
Some side renders  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/5bYJ1y3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tubLhtC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/g6HdMdR.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:36:30
Looks awesome! Thanks for listening to my rant about using rubber strips!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: FRANCO on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:39:53
Day 1 buy for me! Those new renders look amazing
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: PheonixStarr on Mon, 09 March 2020, 14:01:07
I like this keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:45:34
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:53:53
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 09 March 2020, 19:15:47
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.

Right, my bad for missing that. Good to hear, thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 11 March 2020, 14:45:54
Any decisions made on colors?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 11 March 2020, 15:56:33
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:22:19
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: lunr on Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:30:40
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:50:53
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

Yeah, it came to mind. I don't like it :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ramnes on Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:04:37
:eyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:07:55
Oh crap. Didn't realize HHKB might have been an option. I would have probably gone that route on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Wed, 11 March 2020, 23:28:24
I'm ok with it either way but wouldn't a strip going horizontally be better than vertically? It just seems like it would make a better typing feel knowing its level. I know that Rama is already doing that for his boards, but I don't think it should matter honestly. The difference it makes is probably negligible, but just thought I'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 12 March 2020, 02:26:19
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. Iíve always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 12 March 2020, 05:38:53
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon (http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg) a tad too much :(
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:11:27
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon (http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg) a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:

(https://i.imgur.com/M4fpfko.png)
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827 (https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827)

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:27:27
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon (http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg) a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M4fpfko.png)

https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827 (https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827)

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!
Plus yours honestly looks better than either of those imo. Lol.

That said, I'd still love to see some sun flare or moon cratering depending on which kind of eclipse it is.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: fishbiscuit13 on Thu, 12 March 2020, 10:23:26
I'm definitely fine with the current iteration, this board looks good enough on its own (and has such an uncommon layout) that it doesn't need a highly visible logo or anything to stand out. I just want it in time for GMK Apollo  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: SryImBadAtNaming on Thu, 12 March 2020, 11:59:45
Nice, I like the design a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: SpaceIncorporated on Thu, 12 March 2020, 21:10:13
Nice design! Can definitely see myself getting in on this depending on the timing of the GB, big fan of this layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: 1corazon on Mon, 16 March 2020, 17:00:01
I NEED THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!  PLEASE MAKE THIS !!!!!!TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 16 March 2020, 19:28:48
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Glychd on Tue, 17 March 2020, 05:34:26
I like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: KMPLSV on Thu, 19 March 2020, 23:54:03
keep the dream alive!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 20 March 2020, 03:29:57
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

Shoot! I thought I replied to you, I must have left a draft somewhere then.

I've been looking into different types of materials. I want to make assembly as simple as possible so I'm for the prototype I'm gonna try 3M silicone pads, which will be die cut to fit the case, and will already have an adhesive surface so every customer will assemble these themselves.

If the quality doesn't meet up with what I'm after, I'm gonna try silicone molded pads, which are expensive but will feel way more premium, and will have a smoother look, as you can shape them however you want. Attaching them to the case is another thing to think about though, since there are about 32 gaskets per case!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Exemplar on Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:32:45
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:36:54
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
Thank you!
I'm a big user of screw in stabilizers myself so the plate is designed to fit both plate mount stabs and screw-in stabs :)


At least it should fit both....prototype will show!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 20 March 2020, 17:49:14
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. Iíve always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.

I take back what I said. I just remembered that the Bauer has the rubber strip feet running front to back rather than left to right, and there didn't seem to be any problems with it when I checked out the proto at a meetup. Front to back is probably better for this board since left to right would interfere with the screws, and the strips would have to be placed too far in, reducing stability.

Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
Thank you!
I'm a big user of screw in stabilizers myself so the plate is designed to fit both plate mount stabs and screw-in stabs :)


At least it should fit both....prototype will show!

+1 for screw-in stabs. Zeal's are incredible.

Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

Shoot! I thought I replied to you, I must have left a draft somewhere then.

I've been looking into different types of materials. I want to make assembly as simple as possible so I'm for the prototype I'm gonna try 3M silicone pads, which will be die cut to fit the case, and will already have an adhesive surface so every customer will assemble these themselves.

If the quality doesn't meet up with what I'm after, I'm gonna try silicone molded pads, which are expensive but will feel way more premium, and will have a smoother look, as you can shape them however you want. Attaching them to the case is another thing to think about though, since there are about 32 gaskets per case!

Haha no problem; thanks for the reply! And sounds good! I trust your judgement for the material. Regarding attaching the gaskets, having customers do it definitely seems like the way to go. Maybe include a couple extra though in case of accidents?

Also hope everyone is staying safe and healthy in these trying times. Remember to periodically sanitize your keycaps!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 24 March 2020, 12:42:34
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Darthbaggins on Tue, 24 March 2020, 20:54:37
Now this sparked my interest, I've wanted a 65 but this hits all my happy places with its design.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: TacoTypes on Wed, 25 March 2020, 09:48:52
This is honestly exactly what I was looking for. I hope it lands somewhere in my price range...
Love this layout much more than 65% and traditional TKL. I really hope we can get this bad boy out of IC and into GB.
My only special request is that the hot-swap stays! <3
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:39:11
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?
I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)

Now this sparked my interest, I've wanted a 65 but this hits all my happy places with its design.
Thank you, good to hear!!

This is honestly exactly what I was looking for. I hope it lands somewhere in my price range...
Love this layout much more than 65% and traditional TKL. I really hope we can get this bad boy out of IC and into GB.
My only special request is that the hot-swap stays! <3
Love to hear this. I've always felt that 65% layouts are incomplete in a way. There is something "asymmetrical" about it, which is why I wanted to do something like this instead.
Currently we have ordered the prototypes of each option this case will come in. Once the prototypes have been checked and worked with, this will be moved swiftly into GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:49:37
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?
I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)
I understand. I hope the Norwegian kroner will have recovered in time for the GB, Iím not joining any current GBís because of it.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: sendpie on Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:23:15
lol i was just thinking about if only keyboards have a layout like this ...
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Tobu on Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:49:04
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:51:35
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?
No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldnít be more than a few weeks to produce :)  Iím planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: dPaK on Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:34:11
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?
No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldnít be more than a few weeks to produce :)  Iím planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!


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I'm in with this keyboard, I was looking for some tkl but have seen nothing special lately, but Eclipse looks beautiful and I want it. I'm looking towards this streaming build, it will be awesome. Good work dude.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: KZzzz on Sat, 28 March 2020, 15:45:09
Really interested in this board! I also feel that 65% boards are not as good looking and can be overrated sometimes, this board just hits the spots perfectly for me! I think I will build a WKL for the symmetry, and I will use GMK Apollo to match the theme. Keep up the good work man, I really hope that this board hit the GB.

BTW, just a thought: what if the weight is not centered of the whole board but instead centered around the alphanumeric cluster (the 60% portion of the board)? I know this might be too late of a suggestion since you already ordered a prototype.

Anyway, thank you for doing all this, the community need more out-of-the-box ideas such as this one!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: subluxe on Sat, 28 March 2020, 16:05:07
Sign me up, this is my new favorite layout
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: dPaK on Sat, 28 March 2020, 18:33:37
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: dannyny on Sat, 28 March 2020, 23:19:55
just when you thin you were done with keyboards, you find this. awesome design. curious on what the pricing would be and what material options besides aluminum.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Sagan on Mon, 30 March 2020, 01:11:58
Sick! This is a must get for me!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: doralikesmath on Mon, 30 March 2020, 06:10:45
Eagerly waiting to see the build stream of the prototype :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 02 April 2020, 08:20:03
Thank you all so much for your kind words, I am pleasantly overwhelmed!

The prototypes is officially in production now, so stay tuned :)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: mckeown1504 on Thu, 02 April 2020, 12:51:15
Looks very nice
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:48:56
Thank you all so much for your kind words, I am pleasantly overwhelmed!

The prototypes is officially in production now, so stay tuned :)  :thumb:
Excited for that proto
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: TheInverseKey on Thu, 02 April 2020, 20:48:56
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try

Alps would be amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 03 April 2020, 00:57:31
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try

Alps would be amazing!

I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try

The PCB will have alps support, and I'm gonna work on making a separate alps PCB :)

No 100% solid promises yet though but I'm gonna try!

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: DoctorNunu on Fri, 03 April 2020, 01:24:15
Count me in on 3 units  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: holer on Fri, 03 April 2020, 08:11:48
This is so good you made me make an account!  ;D ;D

ISO all the way!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Glychd on Sat, 04 April 2020, 06:45:01
I really like this design. Any chance of hotswap with this one?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: caonv on Sat, 04 April 2020, 08:08:15
Thank you all so much for your kind words, I am pleasantly overwhelmed!

The prototypes is officially in production now, so stay tuned :) :thumb:

If the price for the basic kit is under $350, count me in for a WKL version  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Module on Sat, 04 April 2020, 09:41:15
Looks amazing, definitely interested :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: dannyny on Sat, 04 April 2020, 20:37:47
hotswap would be great as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: celta on Sat, 04 April 2020, 20:44:01
Count me in for 1 of these. Do you know what layout the alps plate would support? WKL support would be awesome for the alps plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: pleinolijf on Sun, 05 April 2020, 07:58:46
VERY high chance of this being my first keyboard GB... Hotswap pcb would trigger it. Also loving the possibility of different layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 05 April 2020, 09:17:28
+1 for ALPS support, but you should be careful with the available layouts and plates. ALPS switches don't work well on multi-position holes since they hold by the sides, so ideally it'd be best to make 1 or 2 fixed layout plates for ALPS.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 14 April 2020, 09:06:28
Hello all! I hope you enjoyed your easter holidays as much as you could, and I hope you are doing well :)

The case is still in production, the easter holidays came up just after I sent the files off, so it's being programmed right now.

If you could all fill out this form (https://forms.gle/Notwub4qgrSrRUeH8/), specifically for the PCB and layout options it would be a great help to gauge our final options for the PCBs!

Meanwhile I'm working on general designs for the packaging/general branding look :)

Thank you all for your continued support!!

Stay tuned  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: SteffeMK on Tue, 14 April 2020, 09:39:43
Hello all! I hope you enjoyed your easter holidays as much as you could, and I hope you are doing well :)

The case is still in production, the easter holidays came up just after I sent the files off, so it's being programmed right now.

If you could all fill out this form (https://forms.gle/Notwub4qgrSrRUeH8/), specifically for the PCB and layout options it would be a great help to gauge our final options for the PCBs!

Meanwhile I'm working on general designs for the packaging/general branding look :)

Thank you all for your continued support!!

Stay tuned  ;D

Filled in, really like this layout!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 14 April 2020, 11:31:11
Filled in, really looking forward to this little beauty.  If the quality of this ends up being good, this could be a real gem of a keyboard.  I would love to see some different colours brought to this, I bought the Cafe set and I would love something unique to put it on just like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: DrHigsby on Tue, 14 April 2020, 11:35:36
Filled out! Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: iaman on Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:14:00
Filled out as well!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: TopreMoon on Tue, 14 April 2020, 22:01:41
Would be interested in a HHKB layout version!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 15 April 2020, 00:00:08
Will this support WKL blockers? I'm in if it supports split backspace with wkl blockers :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: TheInverseKey on Wed, 15 April 2020, 09:44:29
Count me in for 1 of these. Do you know what layout the alps plate would support? WKL support would be awesome for the alps plate.

I agree, AT101 layout with blockers would be preferred if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Tree14 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 06:28:12
C0P
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: shenan97 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 07:56:33
I really hope this goes into GB, it's a sexy looking board.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 23 April 2020, 15:24:20
Count me in for 1 of these. Do you know what layout the alps plate would support? WKL support would be awesome for the alps plate.
We are still trying to figure out what to do with the alps situation. From the IC of the PCB I recently posted very few have requested ALPS support so we're working on the best solution. I'm really hoping we can include those. The ALPS plate will most likely support the same layouts :)

A WKL option for the top part of the case will be available!


I really hope this goes into GB, it's a sexy looking board.

Thank you so much!  :)

Pictures from the factory, the cases are done and ready for polishing and anodizing! :)
(https://i.imgur.com/jZQFVOVr.jpg)

However sadly I discovered too late that the inner holes for the keycaps are about 1mm too wide on all sides, so there might be a little bit bigger gap between the keycaps and the case edges, we will see. In any case this is what prototyping is for!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 23 April 2020, 20:30:30
Pictures from the factory, the cases are done and ready for polishing and anodizing! :)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jZQFVOVr.jpg)


However sadly I discovered too late that the inner holes for the keycaps are about 1mm too wide on all sides, so there might be a little bit bigger gap between the keycaps and the case edges, we will see. In any case this is what prototyping is for!

YOOOOOOO That's super exciting! Looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Erigorin on Fri, 24 April 2020, 02:18:06
Aw yeah, love the shape! Looking good!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ephemeral25 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 05:07:02
I can't wait for this board.

I hope that a raw or light silver color option will be available.

Any idea of the weight of the current proto case?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: MarqueoS on Fri, 24 April 2020, 09:54:01
Man this looks nice. I know it's a bit early but does anyone have an estimation of the price range this is looking to be?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: VXQN on Fri, 24 April 2020, 10:20:54


Pictures from the factory, the cases are done and ready for polishing and anodizing! :)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jZQFVOVr.jpg)


However sadly I discovered too late that the inner holes for the keycaps are about 1mm too wide on all sides, so there might be a little bit bigger gap between the keycaps and the case edges, we will see. In any case this is what prototyping is for!

Looks great! What is the generally agreed on dimension between caps and case sidewalls? Or PCB switch footprint and case sidewalls?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: chits on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:02:45
bezels on the proto look much larger than in the renders. is this just my imagination?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:53:41

Looks great! What is the generally agreed on dimension between caps and case sidewalls? Or PCB switch footprint and case sidewalls?

It should be very small, maybe close to just 1mm or so. I had accounted too much for extra room, and so 2mm extra on the overall width of the holes were added, which is about 1mm extra on each side. When I put together a bunch of renders with other keyboard cases I saw that the Eclipse had a little bit of extra room. I made the adjustment but sadly didn't make it for the factory before they were done milling. :/

That said, it will definitely be fixed and perfected for the final cases!

bezels on the proto look much larger than in the renders. is this just my imagination?

I did a few minor edits here and there when working on the cases, so there might be some changes. But the bezels should be about the same from the render to the prototype.
The inner fillets (rounded corners) will however be smaller, because it simply isn't possible to have rounder corners, because the keycaps would collide with the edges :/

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: beekey on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:39:36
Looks nice! HHKB top and hotswap would be great. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: powahause on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:11:12
Love the layout. I kind of like the Chonk bezels of the prototype haha
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 25 April 2020, 04:39:25
Looks nice! HHKB top and hotswap would be great. :)

Not at all interested in hot swap but yeah, HHKB blockers would make this killer
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:04:35
Looks nice! HHKB top and hotswap would be great. :)

Not at all interested in hot swap but yeah, HHKB blockers would make this killer

HHKB blockers don't make sense on this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: breh on Sat, 25 April 2020, 22:01:26
Looks great, +1 interest.
Do you know if the PCB will have ESD protection?

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Sun, 26 April 2020, 10:04:45
Looks great, +1 interest.
Do you know if the PCB will have ESD protection?
thank you!!
Yes, PCB will have ESD protection from what I know, Iím sure w3bb0 can answer more in detail!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: w3bb0 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:28:55
Looks great, +1 interest.
Do you know if the PCB will have ESD protection?
Hi there the pcb uses a daughter board created by AI03 which has esd protection built in!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: vaf1en on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:28:18
First of all, let me preface this post by saying that the board looks amazing and that the layout may actually be my favourite to date.

What are the chances of an option of
* a metal top
* polycarbonate/acrylic bottom half
* and the PCB supporting underglow?

That would put this board over the top.

The bottom part does have a 1-2 mm clearance in height and I think it would not cheapen the look/detract from the overall aesthetics of the board.
It could add a really cool look and the feeling of the board just ever so slightly hovering on a pillow of subtle, warm white light.

Just a thought - I am aware it is probably not going to materialize.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 27 April 2020, 15:33:34
 :D
(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: enjoidis on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:01:24
Yep, I just really need this layout in my life. It's decided. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: kevchigga on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:25:07
:D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)


THIS WKL LOOKS FREAKING AMAZING!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: elmo on Wed, 29 April 2020, 04:06:07
:D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)


Not a fan of those thick bezels tbh...
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Wed, 29 April 2020, 04:13:52
:D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)


Not a fan of those thick bezels tbh...

I am a fan of those thick bezels.
What's the point of having a keyboard, when all you can see is just caps? Thin bezels disappear and you cannot even see a bit of keyboard, which in most of the cases is pretty expensive item.
Thick bezels add character to keyboard as a whole, IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: omegarex555 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 01:46:27
noob question, could those 6 keys above arrows set be changed into macro keys?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 01 May 2020, 02:44:06
noob question, could those 6 keys above arrows set be changed into macro keys?

Yep. You can pretty much program any key to do whatever you want. You can also put your macros on a second layer. The key thatís Fn in the render to the right of the space bar (or any other key really) could be programmed so that when pressed or held, a subsequent layer of functionality is accessed. You can program keys to do something else on that layer. Default is layer 0. You could put your macros on layer 1 on whatever keys you want. Moral of the story is you can basically program the board to do whatever you want. If you want every key to register as left shift, you could.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: azzipa on Fri, 01 May 2020, 10:22:35
Interested. Like the layout, would be a (functional) change from my std 60. Watching and curious about colors, weight, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Fri, 01 May 2020, 10:44:07
noob question, could those 6 keys above arrows set be changed into macro keys?

Yep. You can pretty much program any key to do whatever you want. You can also put your macros on a second layer. The key thatís Fn in the render to the right of the space bar (or any other key really) could be programmed so that when pressed or held, a subsequent layer of functionality is accessed. You can program keys to do something else on that layer. Default is layer 0. You could put your macros on layer 1 on whatever keys you want. Moral of the story is you can basically program the board to do whatever you want. If you want every key to register as left shift, you could.

Does it mean that for example if I'm going to use ANSI keyboard, I could program it to have £ symbol under Pause key?
That would be registered in the keyboard and no matter what system I would be using, or what language set in OS, it would work?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: iaman on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:29:02
Does it mean that for example if I'm going to use ANSI keyboard, I could program it to have £ symbol under Pause key?
That would be registered in the keyboard and no matter what system I would be using, or what language set in OS, it would work?
yes, that is how programmable keyboards built on QMK work. The layout is stored on the board
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: McMack04 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 16:11:15
Any chance for a brass plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Sat, 02 May 2020, 14:16:27
Does it mean that for example if I'm going to use ANSI keyboard, I could program it to have £ symbol under Pause key?
That would be registered in the keyboard and no matter what system I would be using, or what language set in OS, it would work?
yes, that is how programmable keyboards built on QMK work. The layout is stored on the board

Cool, thanks. I never used QMK boards, so wanted to confirm.
I'm ANSI user in UK, so you see my dilemma  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: kaisn on Sat, 02 May 2020, 14:48:54
:D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)




Yeah split backspace and WKL my cup of tea. if this is available Ill join for sure
tsangan layout is out of the question?

(https://i.imgur.com/fnuFBR0.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Codezilla on Sat, 02 May 2020, 15:18:07
Hotswap board please... So much interested in the board. Looks amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: DoItForTheThocks on Sat, 02 May 2020, 20:08:01
Love the form factor. Made an account to say that I'd be in for 1.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Neostoic on Mon, 04 May 2020, 14:32:50
100% in if I can snag one.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: akaceejaye on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:17:43
Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: azzipa on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:55:01
Amazing how many new accounts (post count <10) responding to this thread... Looks like you've really tapped into something here, snurrebassen! Definitely looking forward to this hitting GB. Please keep us posted on PCB prototype. I'm waiting for the 'check mark' on OP :)))
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: ponchofreedo on Mon, 04 May 2020, 18:23:46
I sincerely hope this gb happens...soooooooooo nice. this is basically the layout ive been hoping would come along.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: enjoidis on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:36:19
Can you list or show renders of the color choices? I know there are some color option listed on IC form, but would be easier to check out if they were listed on IC page. Also, would you think about adding grey to the list? I really want to see this board get made and if it came in grey it'd be an instant no hesitation purchase for me. Any idea when GB might go down if it happens?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 06 May 2020, 04:59:24
Can you list or show renders of the color choices? I know there are some color option listed on IC form, but would be easier to check out if they were listed on IC page. Also, would you think about adding grey to the list? I really want to see this board get made and if it came in grey it'd be an instant no hesitation purchase for me. Any idea when GB might go down if it happens?
Hey!
Colors are not yet determined. I want to try keep as few colors as I can, while covering the most desired colors, to make sure the quality of the colors are as good as they can be. However I can give a rundown of the colors we're looking at:
- Black
- Lilac
- Pink
- Dark Blue
- Grey
- White

I've prototyped the cases in lilac, pink and dark blue, which are the colors I assume are the hardest to get right.

As of right now I can't estimate when a GB might happen. I can tell you however I love working on this, and I'm as eager as you to get this case running!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 06 May 2020, 05:02:03
UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!

Some quick photos:
(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)
(Light) Pink with brass weight

(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)
Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)

(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)
Pink case with stainless steel weight

(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)
Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate

Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.

Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support!  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Erigorin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 06:06:01
Looks really great! Any pictures of the tops as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: azzipa on Wed, 06 May 2020, 07:13:58
Iím going to have a hard time picking a color... Did you decide to offer a mix and match option for top and bottom colors? Or maybe we can by an Ďextraí base so we could have weighted and unweighted if we want? Nice work with weights, by the way.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Wed, 06 May 2020, 08:42:36
Sweeeet:)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 08:49:40
UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!

Some quick photos:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)

(Light) Pink with brass weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)

Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)

Pink case with stainless steel weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)

Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate

Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.

Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support!  ;)
Great photos... hope during the gb there will be an option for fixed ansi plate rather than universal. If not, please release the plate file.

Not a fan of universal plates nowadays.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 06 May 2020, 08:52:44
Looks really great! Any pictures of the tops as well?
It sadly wasn't provided as far as I know. Factory pictures usually aren't the best  :-X


Great photos... hope during the gb there will be an option for fixed ansi plate rather than universal. If not, please release the plate file.

Not a fan of universal plates nowadays.

Will definitely prepare alternative plate files like this and release them, if we're not offering them in the GB itself. :) We want people to customize their keyboard to their preference.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:42:25
UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!

Some quick photos:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)

(Light) Pink with brass weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)

Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)

Pink case with stainless steel weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)

Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate

Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.

Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support!  ;)

Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: NOLA on Wed, 06 May 2020, 12:18:21
UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!

Some quick photos:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)

(Light) Pink with brass weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)

Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)

Pink case with stainless steel weight

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)

Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate

Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.

Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support!  ;)

Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:29:50

Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

Yeah that is right. I'm not very comfortable having them that close but if i remember right i kind of had to, to balance everything out. I'll see if i can change it for the next rev!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:46:06
Like the layout, will be watching for different bottom row layouts :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: azzipa on Thu, 07 May 2020, 19:08:21
Please keep us posted on PCB prototype. I'm waiting for the 'check mark' on OP :)))


ordered... check!     :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
Post by: phinix on Fri, 08 May 2020, 05:50:26

Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

Yeah that is right. I'm not very comfortable having them that close but if i remember right i kind of had to, to balance everything out. I'll see if i can change it for the next rev!

Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.

WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 08 May 2020, 06:30:41

Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.

WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?

Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have a look at that. Maybe try looking into countersunk screws if I can't do anything about their closeness to the edge. It's not looking too good either, aesthetically.
 
By measuring the mass and material in Fusion, the three parts should amount to around 2.1kg, so it's looking to be a heavy guy :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: phinix on Fri, 08 May 2020, 06:44:42

Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.

WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?

Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have a look at that. Maybe try looking into countersunk screws if I can't do anything about their closeness to the edge. It's not looking too good either, aesthetically.
 
By measuring the mass and material in Fusion, the three parts should amount to around 2.1kg, so it's looking to be a heavy guy :)

Cool:)
2.1kg - thats including weight, right? How heavy is the weight itself?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:31:53

Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.

WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?

Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have a look at that. Maybe try looking into countersunk screws if I can't do anything about their closeness to the edge. It's not looking too good either, aesthetically.
 
By measuring the mass and material in Fusion, the three parts should amount to around 2.1kg, so it's looking to be a heavy guy :)

To clarify what I meant when I first brought it up, I wasn't concerned about the structure. I'm not worried the thin edge will accidentally get broken, I just think it looks sub-optimal, aesthetically speaking. That being said, the looks of the undersides of boards aren't generally my primary concern, which is why I generally don't have much input for the aesthetics of weights and stuff. If re-working the screws is a huge headache, leaving them as they are isn't the end of the world. I just thought it was worth bringing up. Thanks for all your hard work and responsiveness to feedback! Hope you're safe, healthy, and doing well!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:17:53
Hello everyone!

Prototype and gasket samples have arrived!

(https://i.imgur.com/pkQn9Dj.jpg)

This is only a quick assembly I did before the gaskets arrived. With makeshift gaskets to mimic the thickness and function of the actual silicone gaskets the feel and sound was surprisingly tight already, even without a PCB.

The distance from keycaps to inner edges is something that definitely will be fixed and tightened up. I honestly expected it to look worse than it does now. The gap looked way bigger virtually.
Still I will make it fit tighter, by adjusting it a tiny bit, so the caps will be fit better in the case.

(https://i.imgur.com/yIfu6E3.jpg)

During this week, the prototypes of the PCB will be assembled by W3bb0, one of which will be shipped to me.

Hopefully sometime next week I'm able to set up a live stream and of course, videos of the final result for those who can't make the livestream.
Mind you I'm not too familiar or used to live streaming so don't expect the best of quality and entertainment  :-X

Full album of photos here:
https://imgur.com/a/zNPqAF9

Overall I'm very excited about this keyboard and more so about making it as good as it can be for all those who are interested in it.

FAQ:
- Colors are not yet 100% decided, but I'm pretty sure we'll keep Pink and Lilac, as the samples looks really good.
- QTY, first round will most likely be limited to 150 units FCFS. This is simply to make sure the quality can be met to match the samples on all units.
- No confirmed GB date yet, but things are moving along smoothly now.
- Total weight is about 2kg, including the weight.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: iaman on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:28:44
Oh gosh that prototype is lookin good! Excited about this one 🤩
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: SolidCactus on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:31:37
The prototype is looking awesome.

Very tidy work and I will be following!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Erigorin on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:39:18
Will e-white still be a colour option?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:47:16
Will e-white still be a colour option?

As far as I know, e-white is one of the easier colors to do, so yes I reckon it will be  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Erigorin on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:49:10
Will e-white still be a colour option?

As far as I know, e-white is one of the easier colors to do, so yes I reckon it will be  :)
Oh I really hope so! I'm planning to combine the eclipse with GMK Minimall!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: azzipa on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:55:39
Please take my money...

- QTY, first round will most likely be limited to 150 units FCFS. This is simply to make sure the quality can be met to match the samples on all units.

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: ogp3 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:47:01
This is absolutely beautiful! I love the changes you made, really excited for this GB - praying Iíll be able to snag a spot!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:55:00
Proto is looking good! I agree the gap could be tightened up a little though.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: werc on Tue, 19 May 2020, 13:36:23
+1 for hotswap. Would love to see that.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 May 2020, 13:44:12
Will e-white still be a colour option?

As far as I know, e-white is one of the easier colors to do, so yes I reckon it will be  :)

And the best too!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: rmw2013 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 17:30:25
Despite the slightly thicker bezels I'm still really excited for this case!

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: azzipa on Sat, 23 May 2020, 12:48:34
Seems like there isnít much consensus on what to call this layout. This thread has gone from "TKL" 60% to 70% gasket mount, and Quinella called it a FKL TKL. Maybe it doesnít matter what we call it, but Iím thinking Compact TKL mostly because there doesnít seem to be much consensus around a 70% layout. I guess I don't really care as long as this board makes it to GB.

By the way, I went back and read the thread on Cygnus. Lots of drama. Likely based on a stolen design from Bisoromi which went sideways. The full read is here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103717.0). It got me thinking about where 'ownership' of a design or concept ends and public domain begins. Does anyone own a layout? Probably not. Besides, check out the Drevo Caliber 71 (https://www.drevo.net/product/keyboard/calibur). Seems to be the same layout and Amazon puts the listing date as December 2016, way before anything was ever posted here on GH.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: snurrebassen on Sat, 23 May 2020, 13:09:08
Seems like there isnít much consensus on what to call this layout. This thread has gone from "TKL" 60% to 70% gasket mount, and Quinella called it a FKL TKL. Maybe it doesnít matter what we call it, but Iím thinking Compact TKL mostly because there doesnít seem to be much consensus around a 70% layout. I guess I don't really care as long as this board makes it to GB.

By the way, I went back and read the thread on Cygnus. Lots of drama. Likely based on a stolen design from Bisoromi which went sideways. The full read is here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103717.0). It got me thinking about where 'ownership' of a design or concept ends and public domain begins. Does anyone own a layout? Probably not. Besides, check out the Drevo Caliber 71 (https://www.drevo.net/product/keyboard/calibur). Seems to be the same layout and Amazon puts the listing date as December 2016, way before anything was ever posted here on GH.

I kinda like "Compact TKL"!

But yeah I've read through that GB a few times. It seems to have been a bunch of misunderstandings etc, but all straightened out now between Phoenix and Biso, which I'm happy about!
In any case, I dont think anyone can "own" a layout unless it's very particular like the Alice layout etc, then i suppose it's more a courtesy to ask whether it's okay to do it.

In this case, it's just a TKL layout with Frow redacted so it's not really a big design-feat to pull that off.

In my opinion, the case mounting and design, testing and revisions as well as designing the PCB, is what makes something unique, regardless of the layout. It takes a bunch of initiative to pull off a design, both to have it produced and sold in a GB and that's what counts.

I honestly (and maybe naively) think this community will naturally spot and call out anyone if they steal or do unethical stuff and run GBs for their own profits.

Another user here on GH pointed out the Calibur to me, I honestly hadn't seen it before!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: gminso on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:20:55
I am very interested. one question, is it my brain or the gaps between the keycaps and the top case look larger than usual.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard
Post by: TibtibThePrincess on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:40:27
I am very interested. one question, is it my brain or the gaps between the keycaps and the top case look larger than usual.

This was adressed in the prototype build

The distance from keycaps to inner edges is something that definitely will be fixed and tightened up. I honestly expected it to look worse than it does now. The gap looked way bigger virtually.
Still I will make it fit tighter, by adjusting it a tiny bit, so the caps will be fit better in the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: BaltO on Mon, 25 May 2020, 01:27:54
this is it chief, im in
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Sagan on Mon, 25 May 2020, 03:38:38
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 25 May 2020, 04:36:01
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.
What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
Iím aiming to improve this prototype, so Iím gonna try out a few things to see if I can make it better!


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: vaf1en on Mon, 25 May 2020, 05:22:41
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.
What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
It has come up a couple of times that the bezels are bigger than what especially the OP render suggests.
To me it looks like the opening render has a bezel around 1 cm range whereas the prototype sports one in the 1.5-2 cm range. (These are not accurate numbers but to illustrate the discrepancy between render and prototype.)
You have recently posted a render of a WKL version, and that render seems to have bezels matching those of the prototype much better than the OP render.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: noorejji on Mon, 25 May 2020, 13:05:14
As long as the crazy gaps get sorted it looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: phinix on Mon, 25 May 2020, 13:51:42
Yeah, bezels look fine, thick bezels always look great.
Gaps can be little bit adjusted and its all gooooood :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Sabin on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:17:30
+1 for hotswap. Everything looks very sleek, I prefer slightly larger bezels like this
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: rewke on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:38:17
+1 for hotswap. Everything looks very sleek, I prefer slightly larger bezels like this

+10000 for hotswap.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 27 May 2020, 18:00:12
Good to see the prototype.  As others have stated, the gaps don't look great.  I think you should reduce the radius on those inner corners.  They don't need to match the outer radius, they can be more squared off to match the keycap borders.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 27 May 2020, 18:55:41
Good to see the prototype.  As others have stated, the gaps don't look great.  I think you should reduce the radius on those inner corners.  They don't need to match the outer radius, they can be more squared off to match the keycap borders.

I agree. Those radii can be pretty small. The keycaps they're next to are square after all. That would really help narrow that gap and make everything look a bit more 'precise'
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: FRANCO on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:16:09
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.
What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
Iím aiming to improve this prototype, so Iím gonna try out a few things to see if I can make it better!


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So while I actually like thicc bezels, the added thickness does detract a little from the initial design shown in the renders and at least to me, doesn't have the same feel
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: S3LQ on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:23:17
 :-*
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: katmcgo on Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:28:43
I'm very interested in the lilac variant of this (hotswap preferred, but not a huge deal); looks beautiful so far! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Zacharius on Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:37:31
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.
What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
Iím aiming to improve this prototype, so Iím gonna try out a few things to see if I can make it better!


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So while I actually like thicc bezels, the added thickness does detract a little from the initial design shown in the renders and at least to me, doesn't have the same feel
Yeah same. Itís an instant buy with the render bezels, but I have doubts about the proto. It also makes the corners of the board seem sharper? I think theyíre the same degree as the render, but the amount of bezel makes it seem like a sharper corner.


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: theside123 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 22:23:05

No RGB ??
Thinking about putting a logo or logo on the top housing of the keyboard?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:01:31

So while I actually like thicc bezels, the added thickness does detract a little from the initial design shown in the renders and at least to me, doesn't have the same feel
Yeah same. Itís an instant buy with the render bezels, but I have doubts about the proto. It also makes the corners of the board seem sharper? I think theyíre the same degree as the render, but the amount of bezel makes it seem like a sharper corner.

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Yeah I get this and I sort of agree. There might be a few spots I can shrink the sides more so I'm gonna look into that.




No RGB ??
Thinking about putting a logo or logo on the top housing of the keyboard?


Sorry, RGB on the PCB has been lower down on our list of priority ^-^
I experimented some having a logo on the top housing, but I ended up going for a cleaner design having only the three indicator LEDs there.

-

As for a general update on the progress here, we are halted some because of some issues with the PCB. I also suspect there is a problem with how the PCB will fit the case so I will either have to re-machine the case or just go ahead and do a new prototype with all the changes and improvements learned from the prototypes.

Meanwhile I'm having a new plate machined very soon, with a hopefully improved design.

Sorry for the slow progress, and thank you all for your continued support!

Also, I hope everyone are safe during these crazy, crazy times <3

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 03 June 2020, 02:57:46
No problem, I will wait for this keyboard.  Keep improving.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 03 June 2020, 03:17:25
No problem, I will wait for this keyboard.  Keep improving.

I don't mind waiting either, especially if we can shrink those bezels a bit.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: TankaGTE on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:41:54
Thank you for the updates, greatly appreciated, canít wait to see what you do with the next prototype


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: gamerman on Wed, 03 June 2020, 19:36:19
any idea if in the final product there'll be a half plate option? would be neat
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: azzipa on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:00:12
I saw the word 'halted' and thought the project was being shelved (eg, arrow 40?). Much to my relief I see that you are working to resolve some design issues that are, hopefully, only a temporary delay. FWIW, you can add my name to the list of people willing to wait for the Eclipse. I know prototyping slows down your timeline and the extra expense can be tough, but spreading the cost over 100 units sold may make it a little less painful.


As for a general update on the progress here, we are halted some because of some issues with the PCB. I also suspect there is a problem with how the PCB will fit the case so I will either have to re-machine the case or just go ahead and do a new prototype with all the changes and improvements learned from the prototypes.

Meanwhile I'm having a new plate machined very soon, with a hopefully improved design.

Sorry for the slow progress, and thank you all for your continued support!

Also, I hope everyone are safe during these crazy, crazy times <3

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: PhantomLeadr on Sun, 07 June 2020, 11:44:24
Hey n00b here but im so into this layout and design.

I saw someone ask for hotswap which id love to see if theres more interest but otherwise i could afford to learn soldering anyway. BIG HYPES for this one man.

Would there be any US distributors or whatever for this if it makes it to GB? again sorry for the ignorance im still learning this hobby.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:11:34
Hey n00b here but im so into this layout and design.

I saw someone ask for hotswap which id love to see if theres more interest but otherwise i could afford to learn soldering anyway. BIG HYPES for this one man.

Would there be any US distributors or whatever for this if it makes it to GB? again sorry for the ignorance im still learning this hobby.

Welcome to geekhack/the hobby! One of the issues with hotswap is that it requires the layout to be fixed. Solderable PCBs can be made to accommodate as serval layouts (things like different bottom rows, split backspace, ISO, stepped capslock, split right shift, etc) on the same PCB, whereas hotswap sockets can not overlap one another. If you look in the OP, you can see an image of the different layouts planned. Doing hotswap would require a different PCB for each.

Idk about the US distributor. Not everything gets freighted to a distributor before being shipped direct to customer though. I wouldnít worry; weíre pretty fortunate in the US that we generally have access to most GBís.

Welcome again, and donít be afraid to ask questions! Itís how you learn!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 12 June 2020, 18:33:57
Update
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, we sort of hit a little bump in the road with the design, but we're pushing forwards nevertheless.

Regarding everything that's happened in the world, I guess it's only for the best. Somehow it feels wrong to focus on something as insignificant and trivial as this project nowadays. Hopefully it can act like a break from everything, and remind us of a world where we are all privileged enough to only have to worry about how to make our keyboards sound perfect and enjoy the work we do on them, and thus bring us happiness this way.

Anyway, the PCB is still in the process of being assembled and meanwhile I've taken some feedback to heart, adjusted the design based on how the prototype looked and made a few changes to the case. Once I get the PCB shipped to me I'll do the final adjustments and order another prototype.

Main changes are:
- Slightly thinner bezels/edges.
- Back edge thicker than front edge, to make it more aesthetically pleasing from a typing angle
- Cutting a path for cable and components in the bottom case
- Tightened the inner edges and added smaller radii on the corners, so there is no gap between keycaps and case
- Made additional relief cuts to the plate, for a more even and consistent sound

Here is a new render featuring a new GMK set I'm rendering for S3LQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106679.0):

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/720995778029682698/GMK_Zoom_Eclipse.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/718863948589301860/Screen_Shot_2020-06-06_at_18.28.30.png)

Thank you so much, I hope you're doing okay!
Title: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 12 June 2020, 18:49:22
Update
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, we sort of hit a little bump in the road with the design, but we're pushing forwards nevertheless.

Regarding everything that's happened in the world, I guess it's only for the best. Somehow it feels wrong to focus on something as insignificant and trivial as this project nowadays. Hopefully it can act like a break from everything, and remind us of a world where we are all privileged enough to only have to worry about how to make our keyboards sound perfect and enjoy the work we do on them, and thus bring us happiness this way.

Anyway, the PCB is still in the process of being assembled and meanwhile I've taken some feedback to heart, adjusted the design based on how the prototype looked and made a few changes to the case. Once I get the PCB shipped to me I'll do the final adjustments and order another prototype.

Main changes are:
- Slightly thinner bezels/edges.
- Back edge thicker than front edge, to make it more aesthetically pleasing from a typing angle
- Cutting a path for cable and components in the bottom case
- Tightened the inner edges and added smaller radii on the corners, so there is no gap between keycaps and case
- Made additional relief cuts to the plate, for a more even and consistent sound

Here is a new render featuring a new GMK set I'm rendering for S3LQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106679.0):

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/720995778029682698/GMK_Zoom_Eclipse.png)


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/718863948589301860/Screen_Shot_2020-06-06_at_18.28.30.png)


Thank you so much, I hope you're doing okay!
Dam, thatís a stunner right there.

Not a 70% guy but wow...

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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 12 June 2020, 23:53:10
Sounds like some great refinements!  Looking forward to the GB proceeding.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: kbfan on Sat, 13 June 2020, 00:55:58
Where do I sign-up for the IC?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 13 June 2020, 01:25:56
what's up with the cap-to-bezel spacing here, superchief?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422242037669167105/721235373321224222/image0.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 13 June 2020, 01:34:09
what's up with the cap-to-bezel spacing here, superchief?

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422242037669167105/721235373321224222/image0.jpg)


He's addressed it.  It's his 4th bullet point in the update :)  Yeah, let's hope it's drastically addressed  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Sat, 13 June 2020, 02:47:57
what's up with the cap-to-bezel spacing here, superchief?

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422242037669167105/721235373321224222/image0.jpg)


Yeah one of my premier blunders that I noticed exactly when the cases were done machining. :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: holer on Sat, 13 June 2020, 02:55:32
Great update (and thanks for keeping us up to date frequently) - I'm so excited about this project :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 13 June 2020, 04:58:42
Good improvement, looking forward to this board more and more.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Prototype finished!)
Post by: elmo on Sat, 13 June 2020, 05:30:06
Update
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, we sort of hit a little bump in the road with the design, but we're pushing forwards nevertheless.

Regarding everything that's happened in the world, I guess it's only for the best. Somehow it feels wrong to focus on something as insignificant and trivial as this project nowadays. Hopefully it can act like a break from everything, and remind us of a world where we are all privileged enough to only have to worry about how to make our keyboards sound perfect and enjoy the work we do on them, and thus bring us happiness this way.

Anyway, the PCB is still in the process of being assembled and meanwhile I've taken some feedback to heart, adjusted the design based on how the prototype looked and made a few changes to the case. Once I get the PCB shipped to me I'll do the final adjustments and order another prototype.

Main changes are:
- Slightly thinner bezels/edges.
- Back edge thicker than front edge, to make it more aesthetically pleasing from a typing angle
- Cutting a path for cable and components in the bottom case
- Tightened the inner edges and added smaller radii on the corners, so there is no gap between keycaps and case
- Made additional relief cuts to the plate, for a more even and consistent sound

Here is a new render featuring a new GMK set I'm rendering for S3LQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106679.0):

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/720995778029682698/GMK_Zoom_Eclipse.png)


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/718863948589301860/Screen_Shot_2020-06-06_at_18.28.30.png)


Thank you so much, I hope you're doing okay!

This looks much better! really nice  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: kidpid on Sat, 13 June 2020, 23:20:54
Wow, that updated render looks great! Any chance of HHKB blockers? Also, how high did the caps sit on the prototype?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Sun, 14 June 2020, 06:22:00
Wow, that updated render looks great! Any chance of HHKB blockers? Also, how high did the caps sit on the prototype?
Thank you!!
For HHKB we would need more holes in the PCB and plate, so for now weíre trying to focus only on WKL and WK tops. However, iím thinking if this go well, we can try make a HHKB version as well as offer PC as case material.
I just want a successful round and people being happy with and then see about including HHKB!

The plate sits about 7mm above the top edge of the case, which is pretty much the standard for most boards I believe. The caps are snugly fitted right below the edge this way.


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Suli on Sun, 14 June 2020, 07:17:31
This looks really good. Hope the second prototype turns out well.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Mon, 22 June 2020, 14:52:30
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: azzipa on Mon, 22 June 2020, 18:48:47
I totally love your optimism! Personally, I will be ecstatic to see this board whenever snurrebassen releases it. Absolute functional win (for me) if this makes it to production. Even better with the aesthetic refinements.

I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 22 June 2020, 23:31:50
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?

If the second prototype comes out good, it means nothing is really in the way of doing a GB, other than a possible queue at the factory or delays with the vendors etc.

As much as I want this keyboard out to people, I also wanna make sure everything is right and proper and that I'm feeling good about selling it to you all :)

As azzipa notes, I also love your enthusiasm! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 23 June 2020, 03:31:54
I totally love your optimism! Personally, I will be ecstatic to see this board whenever snurrebassen releases it. Absolute functional win (for me) if this makes it to production. Even better with the aesthetic refinements.

I'm trying to be optimist all the time, its life that is trying to keep me close to the ground most of the time  ;)
Realisticly it is possible to get the keyboard on your desks, by Chistmas.
If proto comes out ok, GB will run for a month, then 4-5 months of production and shipment.
I hope...


I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?

If the second prototype comes out good, it means nothing is really in the way of doing a GB, other than a possible queue at the factory or delays with the vendors etc.

As much as I want this keyboard out to people, I also wanna make sure everything is right and proper and that I'm feeling good about selling it to you all :)

As azzipa notes, I also love your enthusiasm! :D

Fingers crossed ! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: TheInverseKey on Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:13:31
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?

If the second prototype comes out good, it means nothing is really in the way of doing a GB, other than a possible queue at the factory or delays with the vendors etc.

As much as I want this keyboard out to people, I also wanna make sure everything is right and proper and that I'm feeling good about selling it to you all :)

As azzipa notes, I also love your enthusiasm! :D

I hope this still comes out! Has Alps still stayed in as a possible option for Plate/PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CoolMike on Wed, 24 June 2020, 19:19:58
I am not much of a 70% fan myself but this thing is gorgeous and the design is fantastic.

All about the clean lines. Nice build!


GL



Mike
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 01 July 2020, 01:42:23
Thank you all for your comments :)

As a small update, I'm back to work after months of being furloughed so work on the case is going slow. However, I'm working to improve the design further. I want to try to improve the mounting and plate system for better aesthetics, before doing a new prototype.

I'll post any new revisions here, as usual!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: dPaK on Wed, 01 July 2020, 13:30:57
Thank you for your effort, 100% in
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Krzew on Wed, 01 July 2020, 15:40:04
pretty cool design, I'm definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: shodid on Thu, 02 July 2020, 08:52:01
Sign me up
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: xentosh on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:25:09
can't wait for this to get into GB phase, even if it's going to kill my wallet but I guess thats part of the fun
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: azzipa on Mon, 06 July 2020, 12:33:12
Glad to hear you're getting a little 'normal' in your life. Hopefully your keyboard helper in the photo won't miss you too much... Maybe he can pick up the slack while you're out earning a paycheck?  ^-^

Also glad to hear that you're continuing to tweak the design. I can only imagine the learning curve as you work through the prototype process. I'm guessing there are a bunch of us looking forward to more updates and an eventual GB. In the meantime, thanks for the info.



As a small update, I'm back to work after months of being furloughed so work on the case is going slow. However, I'm working to improve the design further. I want to try to improve the mounting and plate system for better aesthetics, before doing a new prototype.

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: jdylanmc on Mon, 06 July 2020, 15:07:39
I really dig this.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 07 July 2020, 06:53:06
Glad to hear you're getting a little 'normal' in your life. Hopefully your keyboard helper in the photo won't miss you too much... Maybe he can pick up the slack while you're out earning a paycheck?  ^-^

Also glad to hear that you're continuing to tweak the design. I can only imagine the learning curve as you work through the prototype process. I'm guessing there are a bunch of us looking forward to more updates and an eventual GB. In the meantime, thanks for the info.


Thank you very much, you're a great support  :)
Even though it's going slow, i'm simultaneously researching other keyboards and trying out stuff, which I think is helpful overall for me in this process. (Good excuse for buying keyboard stuff  ;) )

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: zoo on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:07:35
Latest render looks amazing. How does the back fit/finish look at this point? Did the USB port profile change at all?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: G on Tue, 07 July 2020, 13:48:09
Looking good! I really enjoy the design and I think the layout is great too. Sir, you've piqued my interest!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Ashen_21 on Fri, 10 July 2020, 00:28:17
This board is looking so nice! Interested to see where it goes!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Fri, 10 July 2020, 02:21:04
Where are we at with this? I have a feeling like I missed a week or so on this subject:)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: ponchofreedo on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:51:11
im still so excited for this board. proto looked great...cant wait to see how you improve upon it. on logistics though, are we thinking lead time post-gb to be Q1 2020 at this point? or still around christmas like you had mentioned (as a non-commital possibility) previously?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 15 July 2020, 12:55:30
Hi all!

It's my vacation now, so I've been tinkering with the redesigning of the Eclipse. I basically started all over again, because eventually my CAD-file gets too messy and has too many links I don't understand, so I tend to end up making it from scratch again.

Right now I've been trying to improve the gasket system, slimming the edges, front height and making the design smarter.

Here is a WIP of how the case looks so far:

(https://i.imgur.com/AFseUuh.png)
Bottom part, with gaskets and the plate, fitted into slots for better alignment than before.

(https://i.imgur.com/SI76RCL.png)
Added extrusions to the bottom, so the screw holes on the bottom will have more room. PCB will be slotted into a notch in these extrusions (Hidden under the plate in this picture)

(https://i.imgur.com/MAOLZO3.png)
Hoping to have die-cut a thin layer of silicone to cover the surface of the top part, to act as a gasket and also better sound absorption.

(https://i.imgur.com/CXjZYIr.png)
Added a cut to the top part, to expose the bottom part, making it more recognizable and also avoiding having to have the USB port go through two walls of the case.

I'll be finalizing this design, making sure there are no flaws with the logic of how everything will come together.  If you do happen to spot anything that's looking bad or won't work, please let me know!

Thank you for following  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: breckstar on Wed, 15 July 2020, 14:58:27
Like the new changes. Hoping to see a GB soon :):)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 15 July 2020, 15:33:07
Hi all!

It's my vacation now, so I've been tinkering with the redesigning of the Eclipse. I basically started all over again, because eventually my CAD-file gets too messy and has too many links I don't understand, so I tend to end up making it from scratch again.

Right now I've been trying to improve the gasket system, slimming the edges, front height and making the design smarter.

Here is a WIP of how the case looks so far:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AFseUuh.png)

Bottom part, with gaskets and the plate, fitted into slots for better alignment than before.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SI76RCL.png)

Added extrusions to the bottom, so the screw holes on the bottom will have more room. PCB will be slotted into a notch in these extrusions (Hidden under the plate in this picture)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MAOLZO3.png)

Hoping to have die-cut a thin layer of silicone to cover the surface of the top part, to act as a gasket and also better sound absorption.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CXjZYIr.png)

Added a cut to the top part, to expose the bottom part, making it more recognizable and also avoiding having to have the USB port go through two walls of the case.

I'll be finalizing this design, making sure there are no flaws with the logic of how everything will come together.  If you do happen to spot anything that's looking bad or won't work, please let me know!

Thank you for following  :)

I definitely like the change to the top piece on the back for the USB port. It adds character, and having the port go through only one piece of the case definitely seems like a more elegant solution. The only thing is that it brings up the question of color options. Personally, the cutout definitely makes me want to have a different colored bottom piece so that the cutout on the back becomes an accent. I realize that may significantly increase the logistical challenges of the group buy, but I do still think an accent color would make the cutout look a lot better than if both pieces were the same color. The smith + rune boards are a great example. I think the color accent on the back of them looks fantastic. I donít know how I feel about the cutout having rounded corners though. I donít dislike it, but the radii of the corners arenít mirrored elsewhere in the design. That isnít necessarily bad. Like I said, I honestly donít know how I feel about it.

Let me preface the next question by saying that I am not an engineer or otherwise an expert.

Regarding the gaskets, am I correct in my interpretation that the gasket for the top piece is the large sheet of silicone that covers the underside? Do you think that will provide benefits that the strips most cases use will not? Using strips like you do for the bottom gaskets would allow you to just double the number of strips, which I imagine is less expensive than a second die-cut shape.

Edit: also, I just want to say great work! Designing a keyboard and running an IC are a lot of work, and I respect that. I hope youíre enjoying your vacation! Lastly, would it be possible to get a view of how the bottom will look with the redesign? Are you still thinking of doing both plain and brass weight versions?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 15 July 2020, 16:53:08
Great changes, love the cut out back.  Looking forward to the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Wed, 15 July 2020, 16:56:05
Looking great! Fantastic idea with the cut out back - opens up option for two color pieces.

Please do not make those edges any more thinner, this is enough:) I do not want to the frame just disappear around the board:)

Also, lower front height is always good!

I'm not rushing thinngs up, but lets put things together - Iwant this board under my CHristmas tree this year! :D

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: vincenttngo1 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 17:35:44
Looove the idea of this but do we know if bezels are gonna be slightly reduced like shown in the original renders?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: lunr on Thu, 16 July 2020, 17:07:10
is there an updated layout diagram? I find it weird that there's no split right shift when I look at the first post and there's some renders with the cut out.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Fri, 17 July 2020, 02:35:33
Looove the idea of this but do we know if bezels are gonna be slightly reduced like shown in the original renders?

I hope not. Bezels need to be there, otherwise you will be just looking at the caps.
This kind of keyboard should have some fat bezels as it needs to show itself, it's pretty little thing!  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 17 July 2020, 05:28:23

I donít know how I feel about the cutout having rounded corners though. I donít dislike it, but the radii of the corners arenít mirrored elsewhere in the design. That isnít necessarily bad. Like I said, I honestly donít know how I feel about it.

Let me preface the next question by saying that I am not an engineer or otherwise an expert.

Regarding the gaskets, am I correct in my interpretation that the gasket for the top piece is the large sheet of silicone that covers the underside? Do you think that will provide benefits that the strips most cases use will not? Using strips like you do for the bottom gaskets would allow you to just double the number of strips, which I imagine is less expensive than a second die-cut shape.

Edit: also, I just want to say great work! Designing a keyboard and running an IC are a lot of work, and I respect that. I hope youíre enjoying your vacation! Lastly, would it be possible to get a view of how the bottom will look with the redesign? Are you still thinking of doing both plain and brass weight versions?


Thank you for your comment!
If this GB goes well and according to plan, I really want to see people choosing their own colors for both the bottom and top to create awesome combination with caps and plates, so I wanna try make it be an option to have different colors on top and bottom parts  :)

I agree with you on the cutout, it doesn't mirror other parts of the case, so I'm gonna try add some shapes on the sides to help with picking up the case. If it's gonna be a rather heavy case, like the prototype, i want it to be easy to pick up.

Gasket wise, I'm not sure how it'll work, so I will only have to test it out :) If this initial idea of the silicone sheet doesn't work out, I'll try using the same gaskets as with the bottom.

Looove the idea of this but do we know if bezels are gonna be slightly reduced like shown in the original renders?

Sorry, after updating the mounting design to be more correct, the bezels simply has to be at least 10mm thick. Due to the fact that the walls cant be thinner than 3.5mm each + a 2.9mm thickness to reach the caps on the top. :/  It's slightly thinner now, than what the prototype was though!

I extended the back and front a little bit so that it won't look too weird. It's just gonna have to be a thick-bezel case. I just hope it'll look good IRL.

is there an updated layout diagram? I find it weird that there's no split right shift when I look at the first post and there's some renders with the cut out.


Sorry I haven't gotten around to updating the diagram yet! The prototype didn't have split right shift but I realized that since we're having WKL-support, split right shift is also crucial to add. It will be added :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: drfranco on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:39:53
Interested. Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Zaum.Tech on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:15:54
Beautiful board, looking forward to it, the pcb looks great too.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: iaman on Sat, 18 July 2020, 08:56:51
Just wanted to add to the chorus of folks chiming in to say they love this update
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: JCraftCables on Sat, 18 July 2020, 10:10:00
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.

What software are you using for the renders btw?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 21 July 2020, 16:11:00
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.

What software are you using for the renders btw?

Thanks, that's good to hear!

Using Maya + Octane render :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 21 July 2020, 22:02:14
Looking good! The design changes are pleasing to me (I like that back curve personally!), and the die-cut silicone sounds very interesting. I do also wonder a bit though if the custom silicone will increase the price substantially compared to gasket strips -- I have no idea on the pricing for things like that. Either way I'm glad this is progressing!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: johnnysstash on Tue, 21 July 2020, 22:52:06
This layout is perfect, I've played around in fusion with it myself! Great to see it come to life, very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:45:52
Looking good! The design changes are pleasing to me (I like that back curve personally!), and the die-cut silicone sounds very interesting. I do also wonder a bit though if the custom silicone will increase the price substantially compared to gasket strips -- I have no idea on the pricing for things like that. Either way I'm glad this is progressing!

Thatís a good point about the cost of the die cut top gasket. Would the complexity significantly increase cost? One other thing I thought of about the top gasket is that such a large and complex piece of adhesive silicone would be difficult to install without any errors in alignment, creases, etc, particularly since the whole thing will sit recessed inside of the top case. Strips are comparatively much easier to install. Also, should the large, one-piece top gasket get damaged (although honestly idk how this would happen other than really messing up installation), it would be much more difficult to replace than a comparatively simple strip. Donít get me wrong: I think itís a very interesting idea, Iím just trying to be helpful.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 22 July 2020, 04:20:46
Looking good! The design changes are pleasing to me (I like that back curve personally!), and the die-cut silicone sounds very interesting. I do also wonder a bit though if the custom silicone will increase the price substantially compared to gasket strips -- I have no idea on the pricing for things like that. Either way I'm glad this is progressing!

Thatís a good point about the cost of the die cut top gasket. Would the complexity significantly increase cost? One other thing I thought of about the top gasket is that such a large and complex piece of adhesive silicone would be difficult to install without any errors in alignment, creases, etc, particularly since the whole thing will sit recessed inside of the top case. Strips are comparatively much easier to install. Also, should the large, one-piece top gasket get damaged (although honestly idk how this would happen other than really messing up installation), it would be much more difficult to replace than a comparatively simple strip. Donít get me wrong: I think itís a very interesting idea, Iím just trying to be helpful.

Totally, I get both of your concerns!
Die cutting is relatively cheap once you have the tooling set up, so I don't think this will affect the price significantly. Along the process of making this, I'm also trying to not affect the price too much by adding unnecessary elements to it.
I don't think I'll make the silicone sheet adhesive, and instead finding other ways of aligning it and keeping it fixed while mounting the top piece to the bottom piece. I'll be working more on this in the coming days. If this doesn't work out, I'll just try to mirror the bottom case design to the top part and use the same gaskets.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: voeux on Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:37:02
ooh this is clean, would consider buying this as a present for my gf if the pink was available
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: ponchofreedo on Tue, 28 July 2020, 16:13:24
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.

What software are you using for the renders btw?

Thanks, that's good to hear!

Using Maya + Octane render :)

this makes me miss maya so much...my autodesk cert means nothing anymore since im so rusty. but now i just want to go render keyboards since you mentioned this. literally cant wait for this gb to happen.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: sntXrrr on Sat, 01 August 2020, 19:24:20
The top of the case looks great! I love the layout. The thick bezels and the small rounded sides give the case a very solid and tight look, the pinhole indicator leds support that look very well. It has a great 'less is more' look. The design of the cutout puts me off the keyboard though, specially those big curves. It breaks the visual design language and makes no sense to me. Also, does the cutout need to be that big? Because I think it makes the outer case look more like a cover instead of a solid block like the top does. Maybe not extending the cutout to the bottom but be more like a window could help here? Not sure if I have ever seen that in a keyboard design but having a strip of the inner case be visible on the back could be pretty cool I think.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 07 August 2020, 02:17:55
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.

What software are you using for the renders btw?

Thanks, that's good to hear!

Using Maya + Octane render :)

this makes me miss maya so much...my autodesk cert means nothing anymore since im so rusty. but now i just want to go render keyboards since you mentioned this. literally cant wait for this gb to happen.

You definitely should get back into it  ;D it's addictive once you get slightly happy with the results. Now Maya's coming with a much more affordable Indie license too!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: paperassgasket on Fri, 07 August 2020, 21:17:48
Sorry if it was already covered, but is there QMK / VIA firmware support? If so I think you can safely count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 08 August 2020, 08:49:49
So will polycarbonate likely be a case material? And the HHKB top?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Mon, 10 August 2020, 06:08:21
Sorry if it was already covered, but is there QMK / VIA firmware support? If so I think you can safely count me in.
Yes! VIA is now open source (if i'm not comepletely mistaken) so yes, it will be no problem. Personally a huge fan of VIA so gonna make sure it happens.

So will polycarbonate likely be a case material? And the HHKB top?
I really want to make this happen, if not immediately, it will be my focus once a prototype is successful  ;)

Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: elmo on Mon, 10 August 2020, 14:37:42
Yes! VIA is now open source (if i'm not comepletely mistaken) so yes, it will be no problem. Personally a huge fan of VIA so gonna make sure it happens.

It's not.

Only the keyboard definition files are on GitHub.
The actual VIA configurator tool was changed to closed source a while ago due to chinese people copying it and selling it as their own software.

To port a board to VIA you don't need access to the client source code though so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 20 August 2020, 06:05:59
Hi all! I wrote a message in my discord server and thought I'd just inform my geekhack thread as well!
I put out new renders and colors on a new, contemporary website: https://typelab.design

As to my decision to first only do a few, perhaps limited and dull colors, I eventually want to do more 'out there' colors and give people their favorite colors or at least something close.

But I wanna start off with limited colors to minimize the amount of mismatched parts/stuff that can go wrong and make people unhappy. Completing a relatively small first round will give me a better idea of how to safely expand options and make more people want this case!

I don't want people who wants this case to worry about missing out or losing a spot, because even if I do a limited first round, gauging how well everything go, we might even start the next GB as soon as we see that the first production units are looking good and are as solid as the initial prototype I'm happy with, with more colors.

I'm starting with dark grey, to mix black and grey into one discreet and balanced look and will fit most sets, I hope. Rose gold because I love the kind of muted look which will hopefully fit most neutral light sets (maybe even neutral dark sets!) However, if I somehow sense that the prototype for the rose gold can be tricky to mass produce, I'll change it to a safer color. And E-white because it's a much less risky finish.

Even if we order prototypes in these 3 colors, it doesn't mean I've completely set my mind on them
As always, I'm very open to input and your thoughts because I might be completely wrong in my way of thinking :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Thu, 20 August 2020, 07:44:57
Cool, I'll go with dark grey:)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: VXQN on Thu, 20 August 2020, 10:32:58
FYI your site doesn't work in firefox (for me anyway). May want to look into that. In Chrome it works, but all the parts are labelled "Top", and each section has its own cookie banner.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: PvtSkittles on Thu, 20 August 2020, 11:32:31
Works in Firefox for me, looks fantastic. Can't wait to see what comes of this project!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: dPaK on Thu, 20 August 2020, 11:38:50
Good work, looks beautiful the design. Works great in Firefox for me too. I like dark grey, but I hoped that the first run would have also black to match the evil Dolch.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 20 August 2020, 11:45:12
So will polycarbonate likely be a case material? And the HHKB top?
I really want to make this happen, if not immediately, it will be my focus once a prototype is successful  ;)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D 100% in if this happens with HHKB top.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 20 August 2020, 12:16:09
I am in for White this time.  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: holer on Tue, 25 August 2020, 12:44:36
As to my decision to first only do a few, perhaps limited and dull colors, [...]

No worries, it's hard enough to choose between e-white and rose gold :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 26 August 2020, 02:43:01
Even if we order prototypes in these 3 colors, it doesn't mean I've completely set my mind on them
As always, I'm very open to input and your thoughts because I might be completely wrong in my way of thinking :)
Black, gray and e-white are always safe choices. I'd certainly go for e-white too.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: aadk5 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 00:43:45
Very interested! A dark blue FRL WKL TKL is one of the things I've been looking for
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 27 August 2020, 01:45:07
Very interested! A dark blue FRL WKL TKL is one of the things I've been looking for

Great  :) Stay tuned, I really do wanna cover more colors eventually. I just wanna be sure we can deliver quality products  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: noorejji on Thu, 27 August 2020, 02:58:17
Sounds reasonable. Iíll probably wait for some more exotic color options.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: OBL17 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 03:07:25
i mean i was on board for the first design. i love this even more now
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: elmo on Thu, 27 August 2020, 03:35:23
I hope black will be an option for a future run.

I would just wait for that then :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: supernova on Thu, 27 August 2020, 03:38:42
looks nice
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Chloebi on Sat, 29 August 2020, 09:00:23
Love it! Would love to see a dark/deep blue one!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: 1corazon on Sat, 29 August 2020, 09:38:08
I love it  - please don't add the cut outs to the side panels i like the solid look. Can you please advise if you are going to sell it like the original picture ? or is it going to have the side cut outs on it ?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Sat, 29 August 2020, 09:52:18
I love it  - please don't add the cut outs to the side panels i like the solid look. Can you please advise if you are going to sell it like the original picture ? or is it going to have the side cut outs on it ?
Sorry for the very different versions in the renders! Iíve gone back and forth a lot.

Iím not including the side cuts in the final version :D


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: 1corazon on Sat, 29 August 2020, 10:07:24
YOUR THE BEST !!! & Thank you for the quick reply. You can count on me to buy one!!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: mikeyboyy on Mon, 31 August 2020, 13:12:36
Looks great. Is there any renders or images of the wkl version?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 01 September 2020, 01:45:17
Looks great. Is there any renders or images of the wkl version?

Gonna try get more renders done once I get some free time after work!


In other news, new prototypes have been ordered and are lined up for production!

Please pray for success!  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: AnuragMishra on Tue, 01 September 2020, 01:47:18
It will be a grand success!

Iím in for white


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Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: wowaweewa on Tue, 01 September 2020, 04:20:25
Dark green please!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Suavity on Tue, 01 September 2020, 07:07:15
Split Space, Rose Gold, and Asthetic AF? Must cop for me.

Curious if this has been mentioned previously, but is the split space bar configuration fixed to 2.25u/1u/2.75u? Or would other options like 2.75/1/2.25 and, or 3/1/3 layouts be available as well? In any case, fixed split space bars or not, the board looks great. Wishing the protyping nothing but success  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: azzipa on Tue, 01 September 2020, 09:56:30
This is great news! Thanks for the update. You've got a lot of people here looking for your success.


In other news, new prototypes have been ordered and are lined up for production!

Please pray for success!  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: imnoelt on Fri, 04 September 2020, 05:12:21
How much will it be expected to cost? Also will it have split space bar options?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Fri, 04 September 2020, 05:58:53
Split Space, Rose Gold, and Asthetic AF? Must cop for me.

Curious if this has been mentioned previously, but is the split space bar configuration fixed to 2.25u/1u/2.75u? Or would other options like 2.75/1/2.25 and, or 3/1/3 layouts be available as well? In any case, fixed split space bars or not, the board looks great. Wishing the protyping nothing but success  :thumb:

Good to hear!!
Yeah, sorry I made the plate to be fixed split space bar at 2.25/1.25/2.75. I just simply wanna include at least one split spacebar layout, instead of excluding it entirely!

How much will it be expected to cost? Also will it have split space bar options?

Price is estimated to be somewhere between $350-$450, we haven't decided a price just yet.
As for the split space bar, it looks like this and it's included all in the same plate:
(https://i.imgur.com/jyTgpBt.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: RedBananaBread on Sat, 05 September 2020, 00:30:57
Oh boy. This is looking so good!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Mon, 07 September 2020, 03:54:56
Very interested in this! Would definitely be down for an E-White order based on pricing.

Looks fantastic, and a nice take on TKLs. I've been enjoying HHKB and now Tsangan layout, and this board finally makes Tsangan with split RShift/Backspace make sense in a TKL-size board.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: gavingoh on Mon, 07 September 2020, 04:07:31
Very interested in this! Would definitely be down for an E-White order based on pricing.

Looks fantastic, and a nice take on TKLs. I've been enjoying HHKB and now Tsangan layout, and this board finally makes Tsangan with split RShift/Backspace make sense in a TKL-size board.

Hmm, I think this board will make it as a good training ground for those wanting to dip their feet into HHKB :P
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: enjoidis on Tue, 08 September 2020, 04:59:14
I really like the updates on this! This is without a doubt my endgame. Can't wait to see pictures of the final prototype. What are the colors going to be? I'd really like to see a dark grey with red bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 08 September 2020, 05:03:29

Price is estimated to be somewhere between $350-$450, we haven't decided a price just yet.
As for the split space bar, it looks like this and it's included all in the same plate:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jyTgpBt.png)


At $350, this is instant buy  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: isot0nic on Tue, 08 September 2020, 21:17:46
Really interested in this one
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: rmendis on Tue, 08 September 2020, 22:43:12
This looks neat. Look forward to seeing if you adjusted the bezels to be consistent widths, and curious to know what colors will be offered
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Wed, 09 September 2020, 00:48:42
Not sure if this is possible at this point, but is split right-shift an option?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: PvtSkittles on Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:05:07
It looks like split r shift is included in the supported layouts outlined in the first post.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:10:33
It looks like split r shift is included in the supported layouts outlined in the first post.

Not sure if this is possible at this point, but is split right-shift an option?

Yes, I just updated it to include split right shift, as I realized it's pretty much a must have for WKL layouts ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: wazzuppi on Wed, 09 September 2020, 07:17:05
Really interested in this one, i love TKL simplicity

Cant go wrong with a burgundy, navy and teal for keyboards hope those colours are considered!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: SamuelAB on Thu, 10 September 2020, 10:23:19
I love the Tenkeyless and function rows missing. This is exactly what I am looking for.

However, I'd much prefer a super small keyboard. The goal of removing all these keys is to get a compact keyboard.

I'm basically looking for a slim 70% with two more buttons.

[attachimg=1]

I was also wondering if it is possible to have a hot swap for this keyboard? I'm going to want to play with the switches a lot :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: diazel on Thu, 10 September 2020, 12:18:36
Like so many others have already stated, this might be my new fave form factor. Loved the Vortex Vibe but it felt claustrophobic. But then TKLs always seemed so big. Having effectively a 60% + TKL is perfect. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Fri, 11 September 2020, 02:34:55
It looks like split r shift is included in the supported layouts outlined in the first post.

Not sure if this is possible at this point, but is split right-shift an option?

Yes, I just updated it to include split right shift, as I realized it's pretty much a must have for WKL layouts ;)

Thanks! I also noticed the description mentions only supporting ANSI and ISO:


Quote
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.


Should mention that Tsangan is also supported (split backspace, split RShift, 1.5u-1u-1.5u-7u-1.5u-1u-1.5u bottom row) since that's differentiated from ANSI.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: lysergic acid on Fri, 11 September 2020, 03:31:59
to confirm pink =/= lilac and lilac has not been pictured yet?

the pink looks really good
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: SleepyJacky on Fri, 11 September 2020, 03:49:34
Really interested in this! No black color case is a letdown, hoping itís an option for a second round if all goes well. Best of luck!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: gilbert on Fri, 11 September 2020, 05:28:25
Nice FRL, definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: wowaweewa on Sun, 13 September 2020, 16:15:56
Hmm, if it really is going to be between 350 and 450, unfortunately it would be a no for me, but the keyboard remains a very unique piece.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: SamuelAB on Mon, 14 September 2020, 19:02:48
Someone has already done PCB for this form factor:
https://keyhive.xyz/shop/absinthe

I wish there were way more options for this form factor
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 15 September 2020, 02:28:36
Someone has already done PCB for this form factor:
https://keyhive.xyz/shop/absinthe

I wish there were way more options for this form factor

I'm actually surprised that there aren't more keyboards/PCBs with this layout. It's not exactly revolutionary, it's just a TKL with fewer keys, hah
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: gavingoh on Tue, 15 September 2020, 02:42:19
Someone has already done PCB for this form factor:
https://keyhive.xyz/shop/absinthe

I wish there were way more options for this form factor

I'm actually surprised that there aren't more keyboards/PCBs with this layout. It's not exactly revolutionary, it's just a TKL with fewer keys, hah


Yeah this layout is more compact and not as chonky as the regular TKL
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: SamuelAB on Tue, 15 September 2020, 10:15:01
I know right? Everybody is creating these ridiculous layouts, but this very logical layout is generally missing from the conversation.

Regarding the PCB, is there any way we can get a hotswap? This is my ideal layout, but I also want to use it for my hype switch addiction, lol!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Thu, 17 September 2020, 02:54:11
Love the prototype photo. It looks like the Top edge in the initial renders has a larger depth, whereas in the prototype it is uniform with the Left, Right, and Bottom edges.

Was this intentional? Personally I would rather have a uniform edge depth but curious which one will be in the end product.



I know right? Everybody is creating these ridiculous layouts, but this very logical layout is generally missing from the conversation.


Regarding the PCB, is there any way we can get a hotswap? This is my ideal layout, but I also want to use it for my hype switch addiction, lol!


+1 for a hotswap option if at all possible
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: SamuelAB on Thu, 17 September 2020, 12:49:14
Agreed about thin edges. The edge can be as thin as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: kimchijody on Thu, 17 September 2020, 13:26:12
I love the Tenkeyless and function rows missing. This is exactly what I am looking for.

However, I'd much prefer a super small keyboard. The goal of removing all these keys is to get a compact keyboard.

I'm basically looking for a slim 70% with two more buttons.

(Attachment Link)

I was also wondering if it is possible to have a hot swap for this keyboard? I'm going to want to play with the switches a lot :)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/9bc15cefb6f3ec024ade3892e495b424/tumblr_pohr6uYy3c1tvm82m_540.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 17 September 2020, 14:48:08
I love the Tenkeyless and function rows missing. This is exactly what I am looking for.

However, I'd much prefer a super small keyboard. The goal of removing all these keys is to get a compact keyboard.

I'm basically looking for a slim 70% with two more buttons.

(Attachment Link)

I was also wondering if it is possible to have a hot swap for this keyboard? I'm going to want to play with the switches a lot :)

??
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: Cloods on Sat, 19 September 2020, 02:31:01
This layout is wonderful, too bad i have too many boards
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Sun, 20 September 2020, 17:16:05
This layout is wonderful, too bad i have too many boards

What does even mean
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: danielj3nn on Sun, 20 September 2020, 17:36:02
im definitely in on the GB
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Thu, 24 September 2020, 03:20:49
Can't wait for this one:)
I wonder how would it look with numpad added to the right. Still no F-row. Could be cool. Second version for round 2 :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Thu, 24 September 2020, 07:44:52
Can't wait for this one:)
I wonder how would it look with numpad added to the right. Still no F-row. Could be cool. Second version for round 2 :)

Was it you who suggested it in the discord too? In any case, I'm very intrigued by the idea of a southpaw version, I will be working on it meanwhile  ;D

In other news, cases are sent for anodizing! They should be sent to us next week! :D
I'm both thrilled and nervous at the same time!
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Sat, 26 September 2020, 08:19:56
Just a little note, from time to time I'll be streaming over at Twitch, doing various design work and rendering, mostly related to the Eclipse :)

Come say hi whenever I'm online at https://www.twitch.tv/typelab :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: CustomerSupport on Mon, 28 September 2020, 23:26:59
followed
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 29 September 2020, 04:03:18
Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)

I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:

(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)

E-White case:
(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)

I am very excited  :D

Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 29 September 2020, 04:08:41
Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!

Is this still on the cards?
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
Post by: snurrebassen on Tue, 29 September 2020, 04:15:31
Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!

Is this still on the cards?
Aye, as embarrassing as it is to see that I said that in February I think Ill do that during the next stream :)
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 29 September 2020, 06:12:49
Can't wait for this one:)
I wonder how would it look with numpad added to the right. Still no F-row. Could be cool. Second version for round 2 :)

Was it you who suggested it in the discord too? In any case, I'm very intrigued by the idea of a southpaw version, I will be working on it meanwhile  ;D

In other news, cases are sent for anodizing! They should be sent to us next week! :D
I'm both thrilled and nervous at the same time!

Don't know, maybe it was me:)
By south, do you mean numpad on the left or just design example with numpad? Yours would look best with it on right, but we can leave this till round 2 :D

Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)

I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)


E-White case:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)


I am very excited  :D

Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.

Beuatiful!!! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: holer on Tue, 29 September 2020, 07:13:02
Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)

I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)


E-White case:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)


I am very excited  :D

Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.

Looks fantastic. The GB can't get here fast enough! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (New prototype photos)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 29 September 2020, 07:35:01
Everything I had hope it would be.  Love the grey already.  Looking forward to this for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Eclipse - 70% gasket mount keyboard (Updating design)
Post by: aadk5 on Tue, 29 September 2020, 08:17:12

I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)



This is awesome! Any plans on building it live on stream?