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Title: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Kyosurai on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:33:46
“Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy. As long as the Sun, the Moon, and the Earth exist, everything will be all right.” – Yui


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- IC Form - (https://forms.gle/JzxRow8JxR1MYuwcA)

- Stabilizers IC Form - (https://forms.gle/AdD1v85C3rzKtFVV7)

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Hello Fellow Pilots,

As you’ve noticed, we are a big fan of EVA-01 and have a thought to recreate a switch that resembles the all time favorite 01. Please fill up the form if you’re interested and let’s make this happened!

We will be collaborating with ThicThock for their very delicious DL springs. :)

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New Specifications: -

Old Specifications:-
More
•   Material: Nylon housing, POM stem and Poly top
•   Color reference: TBC with manufacturer
•   Spring: 62G
•   Nature: Tactile feel
•   Non-factory lubed
•   Rounded Tactile Feel ( Similar to T1s )

The switch will be made by JWK.

This switch will be a Rara switch recolor. The difference between this switch and Raras, will be the poly top and a better spring. :)
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Pricing and MOQ:-
•   Price: TBC (We will try to get pricing that's favorable by everyone)
•   MoQs: 40,000

Vendor:-

ThicThock for Asia region
ApexKeyboards for Canada
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As this is the initial interest check, I’ll keep you guys posted with more updates and renders in near future.

Thank you for your patience and feel free to leave comments below should you have any questions.

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: L8T on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:35:23
Is this made by JWK?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: cyberFluff on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:35:44
Is this another Durock/JWK clone?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: joecoolbob on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:36:57
lol EVA-01 is 'shogouki' not 'shogoki'
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: Kyosurai on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:37:28
Is this another Durock/JWK clone?

Is this made by JWK?

Yessu. Its made by JWK.. I should put that in
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: productkun on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:38:53
Sadly not linear
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:41:03
Now I just need one of the various GMK Evangelion themed keysets to actually go somewhere.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Rejeckted on Wed, 15 April 2020, 22:13:39
Always interested in some new tactiles. IC Form link is broke
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Kyosurai on Wed, 15 April 2020, 22:18:56
Always interested in some new tactiles. IC Form link is broke

Updated. Thanks for informing!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: jaygro on Wed, 15 April 2020, 22:26:02
Sick looking switch.

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Title: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 15 April 2020, 22:59:08
Sadly not linear
Disagree. Glad to see some tactile love.

Now if only GMK Unit-01 could get off the ground.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:58:51
thanks doc
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: krikun98 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 00:49:43
Take over Unit-01 and release these together, it'll be a sicker combo than Bushido!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Thu, 16 April 2020, 17:15:08
Bummer that it's not a linear
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Lyle88 on Fri, 17 April 2020, 01:27:24
I wish this was tactile, but LESS tactile than t1's..

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: isioisi on Fri, 17 April 2020, 01:45:42
These look SICK, I'm in for about 2 keyboards worth, minimum
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: fabijolo on Fri, 17 April 2020, 02:03:14
I really like the colourway, but maybe you could try contacting keebwerk, and make this a Tacit recolour, instead of another T1 version.
I'd love to see that collab, and I'm pretty sure keebwerk would be up to this aswell :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 17 April 2020, 02:38:44
Interested in trying them for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 17 April 2020, 03:17:08
I wish this was tactile, but LESS tactile than t1's..

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+1 on this. wish these were like ergo clear tactility at most.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Joaquox on Fri, 17 April 2020, 05:44:20
If the majority wants a lesser tactility, you could order the stems in linear housings instead, they smoothen the tactility some. I tried Koalas in durock linears previously and they feel less sharp yet still plenty tactile.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:28:30
Wake me up when someone make a proper custom with the tactility of an MX brown.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: illusixn on Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:35:09
get in the keyboard shinji
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:45:14
I'm interested!


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Oddstag on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:00:30
Totally interested. Definitely approve of tactile. I'm up for a full-size collection of these at a minimum.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 17 April 2020, 10:43:45
Totally interested. Definitely approve of tactile. I'm up for a full-size collection of these at a minimum.
I'm similar, my primary interest is the price. With all these different switches, prices are starting to get crazy.


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Tue, 21 April 2020, 12:44:43
Never been into the green/purple cw's, but y'all giving me the feels here. Especially with GMK 01 apparently happening.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Tue, 21 April 2020, 12:58:48
Like the design of the switch, also that it will have round tactility.

Definitely interested :)
Title: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: William_S_Jones on Tue, 21 April 2020, 20:10:18
Interested, my only request is for the housing & switch to be great w/ handling different springs weights, in my case heavier springs. As long as this is possible, I'm all for it!


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Ytata on Tue, 28 April 2020, 06:52:30
interesting....
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Psyoshi on Thu, 30 April 2020, 00:07:19
Super excited for these, I have another T1 frankenswitch and they are amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: alphabirth on Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:52:36
Love it!  I'd be in for a board worth.  Maybe more if these ended up being Tacit recolours with 62g springs!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: yuki on Thu, 30 April 2020, 06:59:08
Love it!  I'd be in for a board worth.  Maybe more if these ended up being Tacit recolours with 62g springs!
Tacits are keebwerk exclusivity/NDA bound. Durock/JWK etc is not allowed to make another silent tactile, nor a recolour of the Tacits without keebwerk consent.

And unrelated to that, T1's dont have a rounded bump, theyre one of the sharper tactile bumps on the market just behind sky v2s....
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: alphabirth on Thu, 30 April 2020, 09:31:13
Love it!  I'd be in for a board worth.  Maybe more if these ended up being Tacit recolours with 62g springs!
Tacits are keebwerk exclusivity/NDA bound. Durock/JWK etc is not allowed to make another silent tactile, nor a recolour of the Tacits without keebwerk consent.

And unrelated to that, T1's dont have a rounded bump, theyre one of the sharper tactile bumps on the market just behind sky v2s....

Sure, I guess I meant instead of being JWK, as was suggest above.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:04:12
All of these super tactile switches are killing me. I wish someone would release a tactile that was similar to MX Browns, but smoother with a lighter spring, like 45g bottom out

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: alphabirth on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:34:33
All of these super tactile switches are killing me. I wish someone would release a tactile that was similar to MX Browns, but smoother with a lighter spring, like 45g bottom out

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Have you tried Aliaz switches?  Sounds like just what you're looking for.  I like them okay, but for me I need the nice big round tactile bumps!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 05 May 2020, 02:44:36
Let’s go. !
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: kvswim on Wed, 20 May 2020, 11:05:59
I want this to happen! Any chance for stabilizer kits too?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: jackzyg on Wed, 20 May 2020, 11:39:23
I want this to happen! Any chance for stabilizer kits too?
Good point! I’d be interested in seeing that as well!


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch
Post by: Magas on Thu, 21 May 2020, 20:57:37
YES PLEASE
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Kyosurai on Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:27:35
Updated the specification :)

Next would be getting the samples.... I Can (Not) Wait To Get Them
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Oddstag on Thu, 28 May 2020, 10:13:07
ThickThock springs  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 28 May 2020, 10:27:56
Love the look, but not down for them being just a T1 recolor. Any chance a linear version could be added? If they tactility could be toned down I'd be in for the tactile version, but I don't think Durock/JWK have anything other than the T1 stem profile for tactiles. I gotta agree with the others in this thread that are just plain burned out on MX tactiles trying to have as big as a bump as possible. If Cherry would get off their ass & retool the molds for MX clears they'd make a killing. I could see a huge resurgence in popularity for ergo clears if they were smoother than they are now.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: reaLFX on Thu, 28 May 2020, 11:20:02
Tactile is life
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 28 May 2020, 11:22:23
Tactile is life

I thought that at one time too, but have been moving over to linears lately TBH.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: senryo on Thu, 28 May 2020, 11:55:58
Love the look, but not down for them being just a T1 recolor. Any chance a linear version could be added? If they tactility could be toned down I'd be in for the tactile version, but I don't think Durock/JWK have anything other than the T1 stem profile for tactiles. I gotta agree with the others in this thread that are just plain burned out on MX tactiles trying to have as big as a bump as possible. If Cherry would get off their ass & retool the molds for MX clears they'd make a killing. I could see a huge resurgence in popularity for ergo clears if they were smoother than they are now.

According to OP, it is not T1 recolored, but rather,

Quote
Oh yaes, its gonna be a slightly more tactile ver of Ergo Clears
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:26:52
Waiting on Tangerines to arrive, I would like to get some of these as well.  Looking forward to this starting.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: RedBeardDog on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:28:35
When Gb?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Kyosurai on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:22:13
When Gb?

After I had gotten the samples, then I'll work on setting the GB date. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:39:53
I'm down for 100.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:55:52
Tactile is life
While generally I agree, there are definitely tactiles that I just flat out dislike (blueberries, halos).
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 28 May 2020, 16:45:07
I'll take it
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: jackzyg on Thu, 28 May 2020, 19:04:31
I want this to happen! Any chance for stabilizer kits too?
[mention]Kyosurai [/mention] any chance we can have themed stabs as well? That’ll be sick


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 28 May 2020, 19:12:34
  • Oh yaes, its gonna be a slightly more tactile ver of Ergo Clears ;)

wait a minute
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Fri, 29 May 2020, 08:57:42
I want this to happen! Any chance for stabilizer kits too?
[mention]Kyosurai [/mention] any chance we can have themed stabs as well? That’ll be sick


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Currently have no plans in doing that at the moment ><
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Fri, 29 May 2020, 08:58:23
  • Oh yaes, its gonna be a slightly more tactile ver of Ergo Clears ;)

wait a minute

Chotto Matte Stop ? xD
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: CaptainVinceO2 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:07:44
That's quite a unique switch LOL interested in helping you vend/proxy the switch pming  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:33:27
oh boy ergo clears :eyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: GaNeBaL on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:43:04
smooth ergo clears? sounds interesting
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:07:41
Small update with vendor
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 30 May 2020, 17:13:02
Ready for GB, plan to buy between 70 to 100 switches. Any ETA on GB date?


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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Wynlith on Fri, 05 June 2020, 14:50:15
With GMK Unit-01 starting in july I really hope this GB comes to fruition.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: kvswim on Mon, 08 June 2020, 09:56:03
With GMK Unit-01 starting in july I really hope this GB comes to fruition.
Same. I'm practically foaming at the mouth
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Updated with New Specs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Sun, 14 June 2020, 11:39:16
There is quite a good amount of interest for the an EVA-01 colorway stabilizers. Hence, I've decided to do an interest check to gauge whether we can make it happened or not. Please help me feel in the forms is you're interested to get one alongside the Shogōki switches. Thank you for your support!


- Stabilizers IC Form - (https://forms.gle/AdD1v85C3rzKtFVV7)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabilizers)
Post by: Kyosurai on Sun, 14 June 2020, 11:42:53
Repost by mistake*
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: productkun on Sun, 14 June 2020, 11:51:00
Id love to have some matching stabs if the price is right ofc :)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: 14x71 on Mon, 15 June 2020, 07:18:03
If I'm getting these switches, might as well get the stabs as well  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: CoolMike on Mon, 22 June 2020, 21:27:18
These are an awesome colorway switch. If I had an Eva build coming, there would be no question these are making their way in.


GLW GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 21:33:30
Id love to have some matching stabs if the price is right ofc :)
https://novelkeys.xyz/products/durock-stabilizers?_pos=1&_sid=8011fb4c1&_ss=r

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: productkun on Tue, 23 June 2020, 07:15:58
Id love to have some matching stabs if the price is right ofc :)
https://novelkeys.xyz/products/durock-stabilizers?_pos=1&_sid=8011fb4c1&_ss=r

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Its close!

Just needs some green instead of gold

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: grundlemere on Tue, 23 June 2020, 09:21:37
These are very cool. I think I need some Rara samples to get a sense of what I'm getting into in terms of tactility. I did not love T1s. Need that sharp HP snap.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: isioisi on Tue, 30 June 2020, 04:38:46
I'm 100% on board (get it) for some Eva themed stabs as well as the switches and the Unit-01 keycaps. Top it off with a KBD8X and I've got my endgame.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: isioisi on Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:14:58
Any updates on these guys? Pretty keen, but all the other pieces of my build are taking off and I don't want to have to leave these behind.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Mon, 20 July 2020, 13:25:32
I'll be updating some photos of the samples soon. Probably within this or next week. :)

Please look forward to them!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Oddstag on Mon, 20 July 2020, 13:37:05
I'll be updating some photos of the samples soon. Probably within this or next week. :)

Please look forward to them!

yes yes yes yes yes yes
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 20 July 2020, 17:19:05
Nice, just got my tangerines and excited to try these.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Crazy Designers on Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:35:45
im considering making switches design right now, and im really impressed with this. hope to see the prototype  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: iteungz on Tue, 21 July 2020, 08:28:53
Go for it!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Tue, 21 July 2020, 08:42:22
Ergo clears are my favorite in terms of tactility. Not a big fan of the super tactile switches they are releasing today. I will grab a bag of these to try!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: mechatron.prime on Thu, 30 July 2020, 19:55:35
I'll be updating some photos of the samples soon. Probably within this or next week. :)

Please look forward to them!

need this for my eva build, want pictures!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: VagueOrigin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 04:45:51
All of these super tactile switches are killing me. I wish someone would release a tactile that was similar to MX Browns, but smoother with a lighter spring, like 45g bottom out

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Have you tried Aliaz switches?  Sounds like just what you're looking for.  I like them okay, but for me I need the nice big round tactile bumps!
Right, what's the point in going tactile... if you can barely even feel the feedback. Sack up, and get with it I say!

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 01 August 2020, 03:58:07
All of these super tactile switches are killing me. I wish someone would release a tactile that was similar to MX Browns, but smoother with a lighter spring, like 45g bottom out

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Have you tried Aliaz switches?  Sounds like just what you're looking for.  I like them okay, but for me I need the nice big round tactile bumps!
Right, what's the point in going tactile... if you can barely even feel the feedback. Sack up, and get with it I say!

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I don't know what nerve-damaged fingers you'd need to have to "barely feel" the feedback of clears but I don't envy you.

All these modern super-tactiles are way too slow. I have no idea if the RARA will be any good but at the very least these will look nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 01 August 2020, 04:26:50
All of these super tactile switches are killing me. I wish someone would release a tactile that was similar to MX Browns, but smoother with a lighter spring, like 45g bottom out

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Have you tried Aliaz switches?  Sounds like just what you're looking for.  I like them okay, but for me I need the nice big round tactile bumps!
Right, what's the point in going tactile... if you can barely even feel the feedback. Sack up, and get with it I say!

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I don't know what nerve-damaged fingers you'd need to have to "barely feel" the feedback of clears but I don't envy you.

All these modern super-tactiles are way too slow. I have no idea if the RARA will be any good but at the very least these will look nice.
I mainly want to be able to play games on them. Having a zeal/HP/T1 switch for that is just plain annoying. I like a little bit of feedback so that if I'm resting my hands on the keys I know I'm not accidentally activating a key. I've tried aliaz switches and they were alright but the springs were pretty crap - I might get some 45-50g springs for them and see if that makes them a bit better

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Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Sat, 01 August 2020, 11:54:10
There's some delays on the switches, if nothing goes wrong, the photos will be up next week!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: jp5486 on Sat, 01 August 2020, 15:41:44
There's some delays on the switches, if nothing goes wrong, the photos will be up next week!

waits impatiently
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 04 August 2020, 10:50:12
Lurking
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 07 August 2020, 01:54:03
I'm so glad this was changed to the Rara stem from T1 and unlubed! And the linear spring to boot, you guys are doing too much right.. I am skeptical, what's the catch lol? I only found out because it was linked in the new IC for Eva themed linear switches. Maybe I am blind, or maybe some more IC's need posting on Reddit.  I think this GB is important for the community. It's been over a year since Zealios were available, and I feel like newcomers to the hobby are really lacking an option other than Ergo Clears for normalish tactile switches. The days of the top bump tactiles are finally simmering down, thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Fri, 07 August 2020, 02:43:28

Updates on the switches:
Something happened, there are further delays on it. I'm sorry for ruining everyone's expectations. Currently hoping for them to arrive by the end of the month. I will update again when I get the switches. Thank you for your support :)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Fri, 07 August 2020, 02:46:03
I'm so glad this was changed to the Rara stem from T1 and unlubed! And the linear spring to boot, you guys are doing too much right.. I am skeptical, what's the catch lol? I only found out because it was linked in the new IC for Eva themed linear switches. Maybe I am blind, or maybe some more IC's need posting on Reddit.  I think this GB is important for the community. It's been over a year since Zealios were available, and I feel like newcomers to the hobby are really lacking an option other than Ergo Clears for normalish tactile switches. The days of the top bump tactiles are finally simmering down, thank you!

Thank you for your interest! I'll try to get a price thats favorable for everyone :)
I didn't update much on reddit, but I'll update on Reddit again once I get the photo on the samples :D
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: SadisticReap on Sun, 09 August 2020, 16:25:44
This is so awesome. Hope this happens.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: _prjctZero on Sun, 16 August 2020, 03:34:36
Any news on this. The other "Eva Swithes" are going into groupbuy ( https://bespokekeys.shop/products/mecha-01-switch-gb?variant=32305113497636 ) but I prefer the clear housing on these.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: SpinningHook on Sun, 16 August 2020, 08:59:05
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere else, so I was wondering what type of mounting the stabilizers will support, i.e. PCB screw in/mount or plate mount or will you have multiple options available?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: HaX on Tue, 18 August 2020, 17:36:44
Any news on the switch and stabs?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Fantaku on Tue, 18 August 2020, 19:17:09
I hope these get made, I'd really like to get some for a full EVA build. Saw some linear switches elsewhere, but I feel like the truly EVA thing to do would be some sort of tactile switch to really feel the force of the 3rd impact with every key.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Wed, 19 August 2020, 08:12:22
Thanks for everyone's continuous interest and support on the switches.
The GB will only happen after I received the samples. I would want to make sure everything is correct before starting the gb. The switches will definitely get made. Sadly, I don't think the stabs will be entering gb, as there arent enough interest to secure the MoQ.

Last but not least, everyone please stay safe. If there's any update, I'll update it here. The next update will be when I get the photos, after would be the vendors and gb date.

Thank you for your patience and unrelenting support. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 19 August 2020, 10:47:37
Ooooohhh! Nice looking tactile! Please use Ilumkb for Asia Vendor. Then i'm sold!

IC Filled. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: jo h n on Wed, 19 August 2020, 22:22:13
Sadly, I don't think the stabs will be entering gb, as there arent enough interest to secure the MoQ.

 :'( Damn stabs would of been a nice addition
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Fantaku on Wed, 19 August 2020, 22:52:35
Is there a render of the stabs? I didn't fill out the form for those, because I didn't see them
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: jdecker on Tue, 25 August 2020, 20:45:42
any update on these?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: HungerMechanic on Wed, 26 August 2020, 16:34:57
Yeah, bring these to Apex and I'll buy 120.

I'm always in need of Ergo Clears, and while these won't be the same, they're worth buying if they're comparable.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Thu, 27 August 2020, 14:29:38
Yeah, bring these to Apex and I'll buy 120.

I'm always in need of Ergo Clears, and while these won't be the same, they're worth buying if they're comparable.

Canada will be handled by ApexKeyboards ;)

any update on these?

Still waiting for the proto switches! I'll check with JWK again on the status of the protos
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: ertisan on Fri, 28 August 2020, 15:05:12
Tactile switches based off one of my favorite animes? count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogoki Switch
Post by: SnowyMinion on Fri, 28 August 2020, 20:46:42
lol EVA-01 is 'shogouki' not 'shogoki'

kek
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Thu, 03 September 2020, 01:18:39
really excited for this to come to life, will be in for at least 100  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 03 September 2020, 01:49:40
Didn't know about stabs, people just aren't checking the post for a JWK switch that often. They will likely do very well considering the Eva keyset and other switches that ran.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 03 September 2020, 04:40:02
EU Vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Thu, 03 September 2020, 06:36:01
Latest update:
The protos should technically be done 2 weeks later. I'll continue updating when I have photos!
Thank you everyone for your patience :)
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Thu, 03 September 2020, 06:46:38
EU Vendor?

I will try to find a vendor for each region :)
Will keep everyone updated on this! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: HungerMechanic on Mon, 14 September 2020, 12:47:02
Rara vs. T1

Here's what the designer of RARA, '43,' said in a Drop post about Rara vs T1:
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I'm 43, RARA is  a physically different design, the spring/ and leaf ping is more quite. RARA is not the T1 clones.
It is very similar to 62g mx clear,more smooth.

So these are supposed to be similar to MX Clear in intensity, but with JWK smoothness.

A variation of the T1 stem with different materials.

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1578814060542.076467907099529494467610-IMG20200112152632.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=796&h=425&dpr=2&q=35)

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In image's left side is rara's stem ,and the right side is KBDFANS T1's stem,
the red line at T1's stem is the point where T1 create tactile
,but the black line at Rara's stem is where rara create tactile

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1578815852830.792964271543940170007544-20200112153928.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=796&h=425&dpr=2&q=35)

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yeah,the difference in structure is small, but the difference in feel is obvious

Thats the difference between t1 and rara,

the stem which at the front is t1, rara is behind it

they all line up and cling at each other

Force Diagram:

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1578846586778.534139327151325675417846-20200113002347.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1206&h=531&dpr=1.5&q=54)

Chinese typing test:

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av77160874?from=search&seid=11444903851290698992

You can read what the designer said, in this Drop thread:

https://drop.com/buy/jwk-rara-tactile-custom-mechanical-switches/talk/2562222?utm_source=linkshare&referer=BPKDQH


Reviews indicate that the switch [in the original JWK Rara housing] feels good, but may have ping.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: HungerMechanic on Mon, 14 September 2020, 13:00:29
There is supporting evidence that the designer was correct about the changes to the T1 stem.

'43' said that the T1 stem had been modified to reduce the overall tactile intensity, with the higher-tactility curve being pushed further down the tactile leg.

One review seems to corroborate this:

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Okay, now that I'm home, I tried some Raras against T1s (Red stem, smoky housing), Koalas, and Lilacs. Each switch had Sprit 63.5 Slow springs in them, no lube or film added.
Raras definitely are prelubed on stem and bottom housing rails.

In terms of stock smoothness, my experience was T1s>Raras>Koalas=Lilacs.
For sound, Raras are lower pitched and bassier than T1s, and are slightly more muted than Koalas, less bassy than Lilacs. The upstroke of the Raras sounds to be the quietest of all 4 switches.

In terms of feel, Raras feel like they have more pretravel than T1s. Holding them side by side and pressing gently till I start to feel the bump, I can definitely see the Rara stem press down more than the T1 (seems like it goes twice as deep, in my rough totally-not-professional guesstimate). The tactile bump also feels less sharp and less pronounced than the T1s. I can see what the 43 means by the Ergo Clear comparison. An interesting tactile option that I hope is more widely available, feels and sounds like a bit of a "stealthier" (but not silenced) tactile option in the JWK lineup.

So this might be a more polite 'T1' more comparable to MX Clear, as advertised. Sure would be interesting to buy them in these Shogoki housings.
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ] (Added IC Form for Stabs)
Post by: Kyosurai on Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:48:17
[Update]

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/644885708934479893/757491518348197928/unknown.png)




Enjoy!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: posph on Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:57:29
When i see an Evangelion theme im hyped!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Fantaku on Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:59:16
 :eek: :eek: :eek: VERY excited!
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Kyosurai on Mon, 21 September 2020, 13:36:23
I will be updating the vendors soon! :)

Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 15:17:28
nice
Title: Re: [IC] Shogōki Switch [ You Can (Not) Wait ]
Post by: isioisi on Mon, 21 September 2020, 18:20:43
I'm ready