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Title: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 01 June 2020, 23:15:01
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660
by Chanmin Kang
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPDpDWR9/660.png)

Interest Check post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106554)

Hello, I'm Chanmin Kang. We are making a keyboard in Korea.
We designed and manufactured some keyboards, but we are not very well known abroad.
We are pleased to introduce KKINGKONG 660. This keyboard is all made in Korea for precision and quality.

This time, we brought a simple and slim design keyboard.
In line with the slim concept, we have reduced the number of parts and increased the choice of case color and plate material.
This relatively small keyboard over the TKL has advantages in good space utilization and portability.
We hope you like it.

Features
 - 7-degree typing angle
 - slim and simple design
 - Bottom mount plate
 - Centered USB Type-C Port
 - Aluminium, Brass, PC, Carbon fiber plates option
 - QMK supported PCB
 - 20mm height from the front


Included
Case
 - CNC machining 606X aluminum case
 - Approx. 2 kg weight
 - bottom-mount
 - 7-degree typing angle
 - Plates, PCBs and can be purchased additionally
 - Top and bottom can be ordered in two-tone colors differently.


Plate
 - Cherry MX switch support
 - The plate is fixed bottom using special fixing screws, giving a uniform feel.
 - You can choose between four plate types. Brass, aluminum, PC, Carbon fiber
 - The brass plate is made of a precision CO2 laser and has a deburring finish.
 - Large switches that usually don't fit well into the plate are also stably inserted.

PCB
 - QMK firmware Support
 - Cherry MX compatible
 - All SMD components are pre-soldered in the factory.
 - Switch, switch LED (Optional) soldering required
 - Standard, WKL layout compatible

Spring
 - For buyers only, we offer 70 compatible springs for Cherry MX for free.
 - You can choose between 50g, 57g, 64g, and 71g.
 - This spring, which we have produced, has passed the Vertical Profile Test, Lubricative Test, Surface Roughness Test.
 - We put a lot of effort into this spring, and it's made very precisely. The spring has an error rate of Ī0.5 g. It is glossy and upright when compared to other springs.

Support layout
(https://i.postimg.cc/VsD0Y0Zz/F453-660.jpg)


Options
Top Case type
 - Standard
 - Winkeyless

Top color / Bottom color
 - Anodizing: Black, Gray, Silver, Red, Blue, Purple, Orange gold, Metal Green, Rose gold, Champagne gold
 - Cerakoteô: Black, White, Beige, Gray, Pink, Navy, Yellow

Plate color / material
 - Aluminium: Black, Gray, Silver, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green, Rose gold, Champagne gold
 - Brass
 - PC (Polycarbonate, transparent)
 - Carbon fiber

Pricing
 - Base kit - $240 (Anodizing, Cerakoatô charges additional cost depending on the option)
 - Extra PCB - $35
 - Extra Plate - $30 (Aluminium)

Includes in Basekit (Anodizing Option)
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Top Case
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Bottom Case
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Cherry MX Plate
 - 1x KKINGKKONG 660 PCB
 - 1x DGL Spring pack (for Cherry mx, 70pcs)

※Can be modified as desired in the above configuration (additional cost incurred)
※Shipping charges are not included and the price varies depending on the destination.

Order here!
closed
https://forms.gle/ek1J4MxarBbLQLteA (https://forms.gle/ek1J4MxarBbLQLteA)
When you have completed the order form, we will review the contents and send an invoice.
This process takes up to 24 hours. If the invoice doesn't arrive after a day, there may be something wrong. Please contact kkingkkongworks@gmail.com or DM.

Timeline
Group Buy will be open 2020.06.01 - 2020.06.15 ( 15 days )

Delivery will start in September.

We will do our best to meet the schedule.
But we don't know exactly what will happen in the future.
If there is a delay in the delivery schedule due to unavoidable reasons, we will notify you quickly.


Opportunity to get it quickly
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wj5Xbxdy/660-pre1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1SJhRXd/660-brass.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PvfZ3P3/660-brass2.jpg)
Before we started GB, we completed some keyboards.
Among the keyboards that have the Anodizing option selected, 20 of the keyboards that have been paid first will be sent first on July 1.



Amount error in Form was fixed.

Cerakote option is +$35 equal to top and bottom. Due to a typographical error that was only in the form


This was an error only in the order form, so $35 was normally requested for the invoice.

We apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact us by e-mail to modify, cancel or refund your order.


Gallery

Lubricated T1 switch, Brass plate

(https://i.postimg.cc/6pB0fNmq/6602.png)
Anodizing Color (Silver, Red, Black)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xw18FD5/6603.png)
Cerakote Color (Navy, White, Pink)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jqJZscfx/6605.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kXQsS5wL/6606.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCQD76dh/6604.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5tPfwCJ/image0.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dVGHLPhm/F428-EBB894-EB9-E99-EBAAA8-EC849-CEBA6-AC.png)


Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:38:45
Approved :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: logo4poop on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:39:45
looks nice, but why aren't you waiting until DGL tkl to be shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Carlobv on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:46:57
Would it be possible to buy the pink kit in the pics to ship in July?  I can pay now.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 02 June 2020, 11:49:19
Is there a weight? I see a placement on the back of the beige board

Also is the beige in the photos the cerakote option?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:11:24
Is there a weight? I see a placement on the back of the beige board

Also is the beige in the photos the cerakote option?

The beige board appears to be a different keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: ubmit on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:15:24
Could you confirm which type of aluminum this is? 606X is too vague

Also, why the left blocker is so thin?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: beerafffe1 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:19:30
Any sample of the metal green color option?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: bobaboy on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:17:31
I am interested in buying but I would like to see what the color options look like. Can you post a picture of all the different color options?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: jiggyboybrian on Tue, 02 June 2020, 15:54:23
is the purple case color seen in the picture of the completed cases how it is going to look?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:06:31
It's a really good project, congrat's guys.

But i feel it miss picture for all the colors. With the name on it.
I'm colorblind and it's kinda hard to choose :)

I'll see.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Jyobah on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:07:59
looks great, why no black cerakote for the top only the bottom?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:20:33
The right and left shift are the same size right?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: rooski15 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:20:53
Looks fantastic. I'd like to order, but I don't really see an estimated timeline, just a group-buy window. What's the expected production time?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:22:10
Looks fantastic. I'd like to order, but I don't really see an estimated timeline, just a group-buy window. What's the expected production time?

I believe in the form, it says shipping around September.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: rooski15 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 17:23:49
Looks fantastic. I'd like to order, but I don't really see an estimated timeline, just a group-buy window. What's the expected production time?

I believe in the form, it says shipping around September.
Ahh, thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: jmsp0511 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:17:49
I love the board design over all, i'm a sucker for 660 layouts.
And I love the fact that it's super clean and nothing too fancy.

That said, this GB is lacking a lot of pictures, additional info, and typing test videos that showcase various popular switches at this time.

- Why is there no pictures of the bottom?
- Does this have a bottom weight? There is no mention of one, but I see a picture with the bottom weight cutout.
- How come there aren't more typing tests, more tests with various different switches would help this GB.

Again, I love this clean design. And sincerely hope this does well!!
More GB runners the better, at a time where custom keyboard demand is so high definitely helps this community.
I just hope there were more pictures, typing tests, and information regarding the bottom weight


Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: rooski15 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:19:08
I love the board design over all, i'm a sucker for 660 layouts.
And I love the fact that it's super clean and nothing too fancy.

That said, this GB is lacking a lot of pictures, additional info, and typing test videos that showcase various popular switches at this time.

- Why is there no pictures of the bottom?
- Does this have a bottom weight? There is no mention of one, but I see a picture with the bottom weight cutout.
- How come there aren't more typing tests, more tests with various different switches would help this GB.

Again, I love this clean design. And sincerely hope this does well!!
More GB runners the better, at a time where custom keyboard demand is so high definitely helps this community.
I just hope there were more pictures, typing tests, and information regarding the bottom weight
Agree. Would be nice to have all the color samples before the GB ends.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: ullr on Tue, 02 June 2020, 18:39:34
I really hate to add another request to this thread, but I'd like to see a photo of one with blockers with keycaps on

Keyboard looks great, I'm strongly considering joining.

EDIT: man it's a shame that the cerakote is so much more expensive :(
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 02 June 2020, 21:43:25
Is there an example of the purple ano?

I'm interested in the board and specifically mentioned purple on the IC form. I'm looking to match it with Laser or VoC and am hoping for a darker purple and not a more pink-purple.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: dRnRcRr on Tue, 02 June 2020, 21:56:28
Looks really clean.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Scottw on Tue, 02 June 2020, 22:06:58
Can you post a picture of the PCB?

You mentioned LED indicators. Where would these be visible on the case?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:00:47
Would it be possible to buy the pink kit in the pics to ship in July?  I can pay now.

Pink is a cerakote. It will be shipped in September.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:04:08
Any sample of the metal green color option?

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsCjFZX2/colorsample.png)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:13:56
is the purple case color seen in the picture of the completed cases how it is going to look?

Blue and purple are new colors added by GB since IC.
We are sorry that we cannot show you about this color yet. We will update soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:14:47
Could you confirm which type of aluminum this is? 606X is too vague

Also, why the left blocker is so thin?

It is exactly AL6061.

The blocker of WKL is equal to 0.25u on both sides.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:19:16
It's a really good project, congrat's guys.

But i feel it miss picture for all the colors. With the name on it.
I'm colorblind and it's kinda hard to choose :)

I'll see.

We are sorry for our lack of consideration. We offer 17 color options above and below. There were so many that we couldn't work with all the keyboards we had in different colors.

We will create a reference image through image editing. However, this will take some time.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:20:02
looks great, why no black cerakote for the top only the bottom?

Sorry. It was our mistake.
Currently selectable. If you fill out the form, you can edit it.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:31:55
Can you post a picture of the PCB?

You mentioned LED indicators. Where would these be visible on the case?

Thanks!

The LED on the capslock switch acts as an indicator.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 03 June 2020, 00:05:20
When we are in the morning, foreign countries are usually night or dawn.

There are time zone differences, and we have 10 times more to deal with than our original estimates.

 We are checking one by one. All inquiries will be processed in sequential order, so if you are missing, please send it again!

really busy handling these! So we haven't sent an invoice yet. sorry

We start sending invoices in about 4 hours.

Invoices are sent in the order in which the forms were completed.

(Because we write invoices in the order in which the forms were created)

The first 20 payments will be sent sequentially from July 1.



And we will upload color samples and additional typing videos tomorrow!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: jmsp0511 on Wed, 03 June 2020, 00:25:43
When we are in the morning, foreign countries are usually night or dawn.

There are time zone differences, and we have 10 times more to deal with than our original estimates.

 We are checking one by one. All inquiries will be processed in sequential order, so if you are missing, please send it again!

really busy handling these! So we haven't sent an invoice yet. sorry

We start sending invoices in about 4 hours.

Invoices are sent in the order in which the forms were completed.

(Because we write invoices in the order in which the forms were created)

The first 20 payments will be sent sequentially from July 1.



And we will upload color samples and additional typing videos tomorrow!

Thank you! and can you also take some pictures of the bottom as well?
And does it have an option for a weight at the bottom?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: MechGroupBuys on Wed, 03 June 2020, 01:27:50
Hi,

The date on the google form says it is ending June 15th. But your GH thread says it is ending June 9th. Could you please clarify?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: delrn on Wed, 03 June 2020, 02:06:57
Quick question, which shipping company are you going to use? (to Germany in particular if that matters)
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Wed, 03 June 2020, 03:13:39
Hi, is there a sample of the rose gold?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 03 June 2020, 05:29:35
Are there images of the plate design and mounting points?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:01:51
Hi,

The date on the google form says it is ending June 15th. But your GH thread says it is ending June 9th. Could you please clarify?

Sorry. The dates in the draft of the GB post were mixed incorrectly. It has been fixed now.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:07:02
Amount error in Form was fixed.

Cerakote option is +$35 equal to top and bottom. Due to a typographical error that was only in the form


This was an error only in the order form, so $35 was normally requested for the invoice.

We apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact us by e-mail to modify, cancel or refund your order.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:09:05
Quick question, which shipping company are you going to use? (to Germany in particular if that matters)
Thanks!

We ship using EMS on koreapost.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: delrn on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:33:04
Quick question, which shipping company are you going to use? (to Germany in particular if that matters)
Thanks!

We ship using EMS on koreapost.

Thanks, appreciate the quick response.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 03 June 2020, 10:17:33
For the first 20 invoices paid, does it matter what options are chosen? Or will it always be fulfilled on July 1, as long it's paid?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 03 June 2020, 10:50:20
For the first 20 invoices paid, does it matter what options are chosen? Or will it always be fulfilled on July 1, as long it's paid?

Anodizing case, aluminum or brass plate

PC and carbon fibre plates are not pre-prepared as options added after IC.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 03 June 2020, 11:02:34
Amount error in Form was fixed.

Cerakote option is +$35 equal to top and bottom. Due to a typographical error that was only in the form


This was an error only in the order form, so $35 was normally requested for the invoice.

We apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact us by e-mail to modify, cancel or refund your order.

Ah darn, I just paid my invoice. Can I change my options? I chose anodizing because the price for cerakote was a bit too high before.

Edit: I'm bad at reading, email incoming
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: dc_in_sf on Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:14:36
I'm a bit confused on my invoice, there is a line item for an extra top case

660 Extra Top Case
+ Extra top case
1   $85.00   $85.00

Which I didn't order, and AFAICT there is no there is no extra top case option anyway.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: TheHun on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:40:33
I placed an order already, but was wondering if there is a black cerakote option?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:41:37
I placed an order already, but was wondering if there is a black cerakote option?
Isn't there a black cerakote option in the form?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: TheHun on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:00:29
Hmm. My wrong. I did not see it yesterday. Any chance I could change my order and make it cerakote in black?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:01:32
Hmm. My wrong. I did not see it yesterday. Any chance I could change my order and make it cerakote in black?
If you have not received an invoice, you should be able to modify the form. If you have, I'd send them an email (listed in GB thread)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: yohannes on Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:09:16
Hi! Can you post a sample color for orange gold?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Pauzzz on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:39:46
What does the back look like?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:53:36
Hi! Can you post a sample color for orange gold?

He is working on getting samples for that color. It wasn't added until after the IC post.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 04 June 2020, 09:34:15
I'm a bit confused on my invoice, there is a line item for an extra top case

660 Extra Top Case
+ Extra top case
1   $85.00   $85.00

Which I didn't order, and AFAICT there is no there is no extra top case option anyway.

We apologize for any problems. It may be a mistake. Could you send me your invoice number by email or PM?kkingkkongworks@gmail.com.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 04 June 2020, 09:35:54
Hmm. My wrong. I did not see it yesterday. Any chance I could change my order and make it cerakote in black?

Yes you can modify. If you have received an unchanged invoice or have already paid, please send a brief description with your invoice number to kkingkkongworks@gmail.com.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 04 June 2020, 09:52:14
Good morning. We had fewer inquiries than the first one, but we still had to spend a day to get everything done. Thank you very much for your support.

There are many invoice modifications and additional orders that require time to organize. For 20 people who can receive the keyboard for the first time, we will send an email as soon as possible.

We are also preparing things related to shipping. Many people have inquired about customs duties. To solve this, we are checking various things. We will let you know as new updates become available.

It's all manual until check your order and send the invoice.

During the process of writing invoice, there are often problems in which other products are selected due to typos, or other products are included due to misunderstanding the line. If you send me an email, I will take care of it as soon as possible. We apologize if this has caused any inconvenience.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:39:13
Hi chanming, do you know if the PCB has ESD protection on it?
Title: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:47:24
@chanmin
We emailed with regards to the blue wkl one. Just a heads-up that I changed my order in the form accordingly to our communication :)

Also: could you provide a picture of how the plate is attached to the bottom?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Mechtype on Thu, 04 June 2020, 16:28:44
Will there be a weight included with the keyboard?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: ln8r on Fri, 05 June 2020, 11:45:33
Have you chosen the exact Cerakote colors? Specifically I'm interested in which white was chosen.
Fingers crossed for Stormtrooper.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:58:42
Just checking if there's a sample for the rose gold yet.

Also, what is the pantone for the cerakote pink?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Solertia on Fri, 05 June 2020, 16:54:47
Can we expect to see samples/swatches of all the color options before the GB period ends? Really interested in this but I want to see before I commit.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: ele7087 on Fri, 05 June 2020, 20:34:36
Any better pics of the purple anodized keyboard? Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 05 June 2020, 21:07:31
Hi chanming, do you know if the PCB has ESD protection on it?

No ESD protection.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 05 June 2020, 21:12:42
Will there be a weight included with the keyboard?


No. Weights are not used.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Cluet1 on Fri, 05 June 2020, 22:58:42
Can you tell us how much it weighs?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: shodid on Fri, 05 June 2020, 23:05:44
I am really liking the navy blue cerakote. I'm also waiting to see the shade samples of grey and white cerakote and then I will decide which one or two to get.

I really hope I can see pictures of the bottom case, the prototype pcb, and the colors samples so I can have confidence to order.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 06 June 2020, 05:45:21
Considering weíre at 1/3rd of the GB itís somewhat concerning to me that there is a lot of info we donít have yet. Hope you can share more of the colors and internal design before the gb is over.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 06 June 2020, 06:20:32
All the pictures are keyboards we made earlier. we hope this helps in choosing a color.
Colors not listed here will be updated soon.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh4ym5JB/blue1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RCfnSSb/blue2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFzb15RH/blue3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jkW3Yh5/blue4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdj6nXDv/blue5.jpg)

This is an example of blue anodizing. This keyboard worked without being sandblasted.
KKINGKKONG660 works with the same dye and process as the picture above. However, the keyboard is sandblast, so the surface roughness is different.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xj3BRCBT/orange-gold1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkcQBpPy/orange-gold3.jpg)

This is an example of orange gold.
KKINGKKONG660 will be made in the same color as this one.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kXjZ0Hn0/purple1.jpg)

Here's an example of purple. This is also the color of the other keyboards that we have made before, and they are made in the same process.

(https://i.postimg.cc/brgMNC12/red1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZcjbvTc/red2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYmPJyBx/red3.jpg)


Finally, an example of Red and silver
Like the first picture, this is Anodized without sandblast.
it may be slightly different from the actual keyboard.


We are sorry that we cannot show you all the samples for the colors this keyboard
we offer 17 color options, and it is impossible to produce all samples on one type of keyboard.

Instead of a rendered keyboard, we wanted to show the color applied to the actual keyboard if possible.

we hope this helps.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 06 June 2020, 06:44:49
Thanks for those pictures! Edited my form accordingly.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:04:13
Thank a lot for the new pictures!

I am right if i say the purple here is a anodysing color only ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXjZ0Hn0/purple1.jpg)

regards
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:20:55
Thank a lot for the new pictures!

I am right if i say the purple here is a anodysing color only ?
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXjZ0Hn0/purple1.jpg)


regards

Purple is an anodizing color. It's just that picture right now. There is no cerakote option.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:40:13
I brought the rendering.
It will help a little in your decision.
However, since this is a rendering, it may be different from the actual one.


(https://i.postimg.cc/6qkqMDVJ/660-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBMGf9cb/660-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dn3sJBR/660-4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0g0CwyK/660-5.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZzqKxVw/660-6.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/25k69dW6/660-7.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ry3DytBn/660-8.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJxCn2Kr/660-10.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/G9n3Fvrb/660-11.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNwbTm9c/660-12.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/05bnjFQ8/660-13.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMKGXKyS/660-14.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:38:05
omg thats perfect ! Thank you chanmin kang for all of this.

However i still need help from someone. Can someone name all the color ? I'm sorry guys but im colorblind and i can't figure out if its cerakote or not. I would really apreciate.
Also we can have the bottom different color than the top ? Is it a good idea ?

ty
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: shodid on Sat, 06 June 2020, 17:51:24
Seconding MechMerlin, I wish ESD on the PCB also.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 06 June 2020, 18:30:28
Agree on that.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: aloevera on Sat, 06 June 2020, 19:00:05
Hello, I ordered an additional base kit (two total). The additional base kit totaled to $270 USD instead of $240 as stated. Is this correct or was I charged incorrectly?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: jasonex64 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 19:36:26
omg thats perfect ! Thank you chanmin kang for all of this.

However i still need help from someone. Can someone name all the color ? I'm sorry guys but im colorblind and i can't figure out if its cerakote or not. I would really apreciate.
Also we can have the bottom different color than the top ? Is it a good idea ?

ty

from the top down (what i see):
navy blue ano
orange gold ano
champagne gold ano
rose gold ano
rose gold ano
champagne gold ano
navy cerakote
silver ano
white cerakote
last one is yellow cerakote

i could be wrong but this is what I think


Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Furitsu on Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:54:11
Hi!

If possible, would you be able to provide some renders or pictures with keycaps on the board? Also, just to clarify the board has a centre USB port?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: pamorama on Sat, 06 June 2020, 23:17:03
The champagne gold has a more cold tone to it than I expected (based on other versions of the colour that I've seen). Will there be a sample of it at some point?  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sun, 07 June 2020, 00:54:30
Hello, I ordered an additional base kit (two total). The additional base kit totaled to $270 USD instead of $240 as stated. Is this correct or was I charged incorrectly?

Probably wrong. Could you send your invoice number to PM or kkingkkongworks@gmail.com?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: shodid on Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:09:17
What is this color ? I want this one.
Looks like a purple cerakote, but I don't see this offered.
Was this a prototype or can I order it?
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:50:27
What is this color ? I want this one.
Looks like a purple cerakote, but I don't see this offered.
Was this a prototype or can I order it?
(Attachment Link)

This is the color that was specially ordered in Korea.
You can also order this color if you like. However, we need to mix the cerakote
so you need to leave this color selection on the remark.

It is important to consider that the same color as the picture may not come out.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: buumb on Sun, 07 June 2020, 02:36:08
Hello,

Is it possible to do this pastel yellow color as well?

Thank you!
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sun, 07 June 2020, 03:20:35
Hello,

Is it possible to do this pastel yellow color as well?

Thank you!
(Attachment Link)

This is a beige cerakote. It's a pretty good color. Don't you think so?
(Although it's a different keyboard) I brought a photos


(https://i.postimg.cc/pLxT54D9/beige.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhkL42k3/img-user2.jpg)


Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: buumb on Sun, 07 June 2020, 03:33:21
Thank you for the quick reply chanmin kang. yes that is a great color. i modified my order form to cerakote beige top and bottom case
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Sabin on Sun, 07 June 2020, 03:44:14
Hello,

Is it possible to do this pastel yellow color as well?

Thank you!
(Attachment Link)

This is a beige cerakote. It's a pretty good color. Don't you think so?
(Although it's a different keyboard) I brought a photos


Does the PCB support 3 and 5 pin switches and screw in stabilisers?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Sun, 07 June 2020, 05:08:27
omg thats perfect ! Thank you chanmin kang for all of this.

However i still need help from someone. Can someone name all the color ? I'm sorry guys but im colorblind and i can't figure out if its cerakote or not. I would really apreciate.
Also we can have the bottom different color than the top ? Is it a good idea ?

ty

from the top down (what i see):
navy blue ano
orange gold ano
champagne gold ano
rose gold ano
rose gold ano
champagne gold ano
navy cerakote
silver ano
white cerakote
last one is yellow cerakote

i could be wrong but this is what I think

Thnak you so much !

So we can mix color bottom and top right ? But it's gonna look weird or what ?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: pamorama on Sun, 07 June 2020, 07:12:25
Do you have the colour swatches that the renders were based off of? Also, are those colours final?

Note: Thank you for posting some renders - I really appreciate it! I don't mean to keep harping on it, but I ordered a champagne gold keyboard the other day, and just based off of the renders, I think the colour would look great with a drop of a warmer colour (maybe red?) added to it. Right now, it looks very lemony... like a yellow. Of course it's all a matter of personal taste, but if there is any chance of adjusting the colour, that would be wonderful.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Kings on Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:26:27
Would it be possible to get a copper plate? Maybe for the same upcharge as a brass plate.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Solertia on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:11:57
Can we get an example of Gray (ano and cera)?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:48:17
Hello,

Is it possible to do this pastel yellow color as well?

Thank you!
(Attachment Link)

This is a beige cerakote. It's a pretty good color. Don't you think so?
(Although it's a different keyboard) I brought a photos


Does the PCB support 3 and 5 pin switches and screw in stabilisers?

Yes.
The PCB supports 3 and 5 pin switch, and a screw-in stabilizer can be used.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:48:51
Would it be possible to get a copper plate? Maybe for the same upcharge as a brass plate.

Unfortunately, this is not possible.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:52:40
Can we get an example of Gray (ano and cera)?

Here is an example photo. (It's another keyboard we made. The color will be the same.)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TwPxdVQ7/1.jpg)

The weight of the middle keyboard is gray cerakote


(https://i.postimg.cc/3wY765GH/3.jpg)

example of a gray anodizing top.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Melkemannen on Mon, 08 June 2020, 14:15:34
On the supported layout image it doesnít show support for 1.25U + 1U on the left shift, but looking at the latest renders posted here it looks like there are holes in the PCB to support that. Could you confirm if it does indeed support 1.25U + 1U on left shift?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:10:59
I was still really interested but i realized that there is no ISO on this keyboard (left shift)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:25:23
I was still really interested but i realized that there is no ISO on this keyboard (left shift)
There is. Itís universal.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: FunBox on Mon, 08 June 2020, 23:22:38
WOW, that red and silver combination is absolutely gorgeous

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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Tue, 09 June 2020, 03:59:15
I was still really interested but i realized that there is no ISO on this keyboard (left shift)
There is. Itís universal.

What do you mean ? So i can solder a small left shift key and my <> key instead ? Why the layout don't show this option then ?

Oh ok now i see it. Missed it because it was on the right of the picture. Sorry.

And of course i assign Fn key to Menu key on the layout picture right ?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Tue, 09 June 2020, 04:50:21
Cant wait already, Paid my invoice today
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 09 June 2020, 08:41:53
And of course i assign Fn key to Menu key on the layout picture right ?
Yes. PCB supports QMK, so you can program whatever you like.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:05:30
Perfect. Enough questions ! I'm probably gonna "order"  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Melkemannen on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:45:14
I was still really interested but i realized that there is no ISO on this keyboard (left shift)
There is. Itís universal.

What do you mean ? So i can solder a small left shift key and my <> key instead ? Why the layout don't show this option then ?

Oh ok now i see it. Missed it because it was on the right of the picture. Sorry.

And of course i assign Fn key to Menu key on the layout picture right ?

I found the link to their Discord, where they have posted an image of the PCB, and it does not have support ISO left shift (with <> next to it as I need aswell). Check for yourself: https://discord.gg/dRQcZZ9

I really want this, but the lack of ISO shift is kind of a dealbreaker for me...
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 09 June 2020, 14:28:18
Oh, my bad. I just assumed since the plate supports split left shift, that the PCB would as well. That's really strange to me. Personally, when using ISO, I like to bind '<' to 'AltGr+,', and '>' to 'AltGr+.', and keep the big left shift.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: pinhead22 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 16:53:40
Is it +$35 for top and +$35 for bottom ceratoke beige? meaning if i wanted a full beige keyboard, it would be an extra $70? or just $35? also, what kind of shipping expenses should we expect (estimate)?

I'm really excited for this GB but I wanna make sure I know what to pick on the google form!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Tue, 09 June 2020, 17:07:47
I was still really interested but i realized that there is no ISO on this keyboard (left shift)
There is. Itís universal.

What do you mean ? So i can solder a small left shift key and my <> key instead ? Why the layout don't show this option then ?

Oh ok now i see it. Missed it because it was on the right of the picture. Sorry.

And of course i assign Fn key to Menu key on the layout picture right ?

I found the link to their Discord, where they have posted an image of the PCB, and it does not have support ISO left shift (with <> next to it as I need aswell). Check for yourself: https://discord.gg/dRQcZZ9

I really want this, but the lack of ISO shift is kind of a dealbreaker for me...

Oh i was right without knowing ahaah. It's such a shame for only one key that i don't really use....
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 09 June 2020, 17:14:40
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200609/72ddc53b03ae99ecfab5362196928811.jpg)

Taken from their discord.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Melkemannen on Wed, 10 June 2020, 00:50:36
Oh, my bad. I just assumed since the plate supports split left shift, that the PCB would as well. That's really strange to me. Personally, when using ISO, I like to bind '<' to 'AltGr+,', and '>' to 'AltGr+.', and keep the big left shift.

Thanks, thatís actually a good idea, I think you convinced me. I donít actually use the <>-key so much that it would be too bad to have them on some macro. I guess I just have to decide what color to get now.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: buumb on Wed, 10 June 2020, 01:01:16
Is it +$35 for top and +$35 for bottom ceratoke beige? meaning if i wanted a full beige keyboard, it would be an extra $70? or just $35? also, what kind of shipping expenses should we expect (estimate)?

I'm really excited for this GB but I wanna make sure I know what to pick on the google form!

I actually did top and bottom cerakote beige and I paid USD 70 extra. Shipping charge to MO, USA came out to USD 40 for me!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 10 June 2020, 05:59:05
Shipping was $40 for me as well, to EU that is.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Aaron_92 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 07:38:59
Congratulations.
Thinking about getting one for my young brother as a birthday gift, is there a rose gold style? and btw, how long does it usually take to be shipped to US?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 10 June 2020, 22:34:44
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1SJhRXd/660-brass.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8PvfZ3P3/660-brass2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VsD0Y0Zz/F453-660.jpg)

We currently have a finished brass plate.

This is the picture, and there is also a image with a supported layout.
The two are not completely matched.
We hope to be a reference when choosing.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: dbjowett on Fri, 12 June 2020, 00:37:10
Is there any way to check if we get our anodized board shipped July 1st?
I may switch to cerakote if it will ship in the later batch.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Fri, 12 June 2020, 01:17:51
Is there any way to check if we get our anodized board shipped July 1st?
I may switch to cerakote if it will ship in the later batch.

He would've reached out to you by now if you were in the first 20 to be shipped early.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: X_point on Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:21:20
2 questions

Anyone know what is the estimate shipping to US?
What color would best go with JTK Zen/ePBT Ivory?

TIA
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:33:28
2 questions

Anyone know what is the estimate shipping to US?
What color would best go with JTK Zen/ePBT Ivory?

TIA

In the google form I believe it said around September. And I'd say any of the neutral colors would look good with those sets (silver, gray, black, or cerakote white).
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: h40 on Fri, 12 June 2020, 19:19:45
FWIW I am in US and received a notification stating they would ship in July
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Corvarea on Fri, 12 June 2020, 23:47:04
is there a way to change form anodizing to cerakote ?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 13 June 2020, 02:12:21
is there a way to change form anodizing to cerakote ?

Please modify the order form as you like and send your existing invoice number (660_0000) to kkingkkongworks@gmail.com.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 14 June 2020, 18:18:31
Do we have a sample/example of the Rose Gold anodizing? (outside of the render)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: X_point on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:03:17
Any one know how long between submitting the order form and getting an invoice? I submitted one more than 24hrs ago - still haven't received anything.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:10:23
As long as you submitted the form before the GB close, you should be okay. It takes some time for the invoice to be written up, especially since time zones may vary.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: X_point on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:27:48
Thank you  ;D very excited about this..
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Kinesiologist on Mon, 15 June 2020, 16:40:37
can you please confirm the following:

- keycap units for the right shift
- keycap units for the bottom row
- keycap profile for the 2 keys grouped on the right ?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: frostfiree on Mon, 15 June 2020, 16:54:19
can you please confirm the following:

- keycap units for the right shift
- keycap units for the bottom row
- keycap profile for the 2 keys grouped on the right ?

Right shift is 2.25u, same as left shift.
Bottom row looks like 1.25, 1, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1, 1, 1.
Top right cluster is 1 for each.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 15 June 2020, 16:56:56
Correct.
Alternative bottom row, with the blockers;
1.5 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard
Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 15 June 2020, 22:31:53
If you recently ordered and have not received an invoice, it will be sent out sequentially one hour later.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Chumbee on Wed, 17 June 2020, 16:08:43
Is there a date or general time period for when we can expect to see shipping to take place? Excited to build it already :)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: musicgecko on Fri, 19 June 2020, 18:08:10
Are the blockers removable? Not sure if was something that we selected on the order form, but I might've missed it.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Fri, 19 June 2020, 20:43:03
Are the blockers removable? Not sure if was something that we selected on the order form, but I might've missed it.

Blockers are not removable, it was an option to go with WKL blockers or not.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Sun, 21 June 2020, 22:25:04
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: musicgecko on Tue, 23 June 2020, 21:32:48
Were confirmation emails for orders sent out already?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 23 June 2020, 21:51:13
Were confirmation emails for orders sent out already?

Beyond anything PayPal related, there was also a email sent out on the 18th (I assume this was sent to anyone that ordered).
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: nikron on Tue, 23 June 2020, 22:33:33
I don't think I got an email like that.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 24 June 2020, 00:54:35
Neither did I
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 24 June 2020, 00:59:40
From the email I got on the 18th:

Quote

Thank you for ordering KKINGKONG660

※ If you think you have nothing to do with this email, please let me know!

Hello. Thank you for purchasing the KKINGKKONG660 keyboard.

GB order period is over.

We are organizing data to request the factory to make a keyboard.

A lot of people have ordered it. So it's going to take some time.

As soon as the data is organized, an email will be sent to confirm the options you ordered.

From tomorrow, order changes, refunds, etc. are all impossible.

All changes will be closed completely. (Excluding recipient address)

Be sure to know the above! Coming soon with new news! 
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dbjowett on Wed, 24 June 2020, 01:30:29
I got this email too. Mine is also in the batch being shipped July 1st (if that matters)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: darkcl on Wed, 24 June 2020, 10:21:33
Neither did I
May need to check trash mail, gmail is tagging the email as trash :(
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 12:10:34
I got the following email, as part of the group of July shipment. Looks like not everything will ship on July 1st, just starting on the 1st.

Quote
Hi. This is Chan-min Kang. Your ordered 660 keyboard will ship in July.

Sorry for the late mail. We received a lot of orders, and it took time to sort out 20 people who met the requirements.

We will start the shipping process from July 1st after we prepare.

Unfortunately, we will not be able to ship all 20 items at once on July 1st.

It still takes a lot of time to prepare for delivery due to covid-19.

Documents and invoices are required for delivery.
When we shipped a product a few days ago, it took a lot of time due to various documents and regulations. We'll try to prepare this in advance.
So, we hope that you understand that even if there is a slight delay in shipping.

Finally, please modify the order form accordingly. We are not responsible if you receive a different color/product due to different shipping addresses or orders

If, at the time of receiving this email,  you want to give up your right to receive it quickly, or if you think I have received this email even if I do not meet the conditions, please reply.

Regard.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: musicgecko on Thu, 25 June 2020, 01:24:48
just following up that I got the confirmation email earlier today. had an error for my extra top case for it to be cerakoted and not anodized but they got a form to correct that.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 30 June 2020, 01:33:18
Got Shipping notification just now.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:33:19
Got Shipping notification just now.  :eek:

Was yours one of the boards that was down for July shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:44:13
Got Shipping notification just now.  :eek:

Was yours one of the boards that was down for July shipping?

based on list im not. but i got tracking number.

*Update:
just got  email again, it was only spring for test.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Fri, 03 July 2020, 16:51:53
Are people getting shipping info for July batch yet? Any updates?


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dbjowett on Fri, 03 July 2020, 18:03:08
Are people getting shipping info for July batch yet? Any updates?


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Nope nothing yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:22:05
Any updates on the 20 boards that are expected to ship out 1st week of July.
Is there a Google form somewhere we all can see what was ordered etc?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: darkcl on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:45:25
Any updates on the 20 boards that are expected to ship out 1st week of July.
Is there a Google form somewhere we all can see what was ordered etc?
I have a order confirm email with a screenshot of what it is ordered, but gmail is putting it in trash mail :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Sat, 04 July 2020, 20:45:24
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.

Any updates, pictures, etc would be greatly appreciated by all!


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:16:26
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.

Any updates, pictures, etc would be greatly appreciated by all!


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Be patient bro, you're lucky to be in the first batch. It is only 4 days into July. As he stated, he'll give you an update as it comes.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Mon, 06 July 2020, 20:57:30
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.

Any updates, pictures, etc would be greatly appreciated by all!


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Be patient bro, you're lucky to be in the first batch. It is only 4 days into July. As he stated, he'll give you an update as it comes.

I mean, I'd rather be over-updated then not?

Chanmin said early bird boards would go out July 1st and there hasn't been confirmation of that happening despite seeing finished cases, PCB's and plates in May based on the IC thread. The board was also sold on their website to Korean buyers before the GH GB (https://kkkk.works/gb/?board_name=commerce_product&order_by=fn_product_rank1&order_type=desc&vid=4 (https://kkkk.works/gb/?board_name=commerce_product&order_by=fn_product_rank1&order_type=desc&vid=4)) and gave a delivery time of 2-3 days from purchase - Do we know if anyone in KR has received a board?

Apologise if asking for consistent updates is a bit much; I get the whole GB process, caveat emptor and all that - But after going in on the Owl660 two years ago I'm just not keen on getting scammed again for another 660 layout board from a relatively new maker,   ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Mon, 06 July 2020, 23:40:59
No, I understand, but it has only been a few days. But I think we just need to consider we are in different time zones and often designers/GB runners do have a full time occupation outside of keyboards. This may or may not be the case here, but let's hope an update comes soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:31:35
Oof, a Owl660 victim

Glad I didn't hop on that train
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dbjowett on Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:11:11
I am in Korea and haven't received any email or anything either.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Tue, 07 July 2020, 10:12:52
 I would have expected there was a public sheet that shows everyone who has joined this gb that ended 15th June. Most GB runners have the list quite quick for invoicing and confirmation.
I am one of the first 20 and I must say I received an email to confirm my order etc. So maybe itís sent only to those who have joined. I did send an email to him a couple of days ago.

Between how about the rest of the buyers who joined outside the first 20. Have you guys been invoices etc?

Letís give him some time to revert.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: buumb on Tue, 07 July 2020, 10:29:40
yea i got my order detail confirmation directly from kkingkkongworks@gmail.com on June 24. FWIW, my order number was 93. In the email he did say he got "a large number of orders" and that this confirmation email was sent to everyone who ordered. I am not part of the first 20 (the highest order number on the first 20 list was 86 or something + I got cerakote top and bottom).
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:38:50
Guess we need to be patient then. And there might not be a Google form to capture each and everyoneís orders since thatís achieved directly via email.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:36:06
I recently received an email from Chanmin. Didn't realize he responded to me because my email has been acting really weird and I just found his response today as I went looking through my emails so I could chime in with my two cents on the state of this group buy we are in. (I'm order number 107)

I sent an email to Chanmin on June 24th and got a reply on June 29th. He apologized for his late reply and said that he has been very busy making a keyboard. I asked two questions in my email.

Question 1 was about the cerakote option because I was confused if the double charge on the form (for top and bottom) was correct or not. Turns out that it was indeed correct. There is supposed to be a $35 charge for top, and a separate charge of $35 for the bottom for a total of $70 if you get both top and bottom done.

Question 2 was when can those of us who are not in the first 20 keyboard kits purchased expect our keyboards to ship. His response was September and that it would soon be in the group buy thread.

I think we just need to give him some time to get these first 20 orders taken care of and then he will let the rest of us know whats going on. I hope this helps everyone some.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: victor_ on Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:18:47
Hi all! I received the email and I am in the top 20, but I am still waiting for the shipping confirmation email.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 08 July 2020, 08:29:33
Same (in the first 20 orders), received the order check email on June 24.
Otherwise I haven't received any further updates since then, but Chan-min is likely working through the first 20 orders and getting them shipped this week/next week?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tekres on Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:51:49
I'm in the first 20 as well. The email I got on June 10th for the July shipment notice says "We will start the shipping process from July 1st after we prepare. Unfortunately, we will not be able to ship all 20 items at once on July 1st."

All they had said originally was first 20 will ship in July. From July 1st is accurate as long as it ships this month, I'm sure we'll get an update soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:59:34
First 20 as well, no shipping notice. So same as the rest :)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Thu, 09 July 2020, 21:06:37
Anyways I have commented on his discord as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:02:30
Hello. We apologize for the late update.

We are currently organizing updates so far and will post new updates within 24 hours.

All order error corrections were successfully reflected.

There is a delay issue for the first 20 shipments.

An email will be sent about this. It will be updated in GB thread tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 11 July 2020, 10:55:08
Hello, I'm Chan Min Kang

The update is later than expected. I'm so sorry.

Now we are in the producting of the keyboard.

It's being produced sequentially, and here's the picture.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYv0XTGQ/660-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NCngDZx/660-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkvjkgkq/660-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLRT9KmN/660-4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1840tZd/660-5.jpg)

As for production, there is no big problem with the schedule so far.

There are other updates too.

Delivery of the first 20 orders was delayed.
An email has been sent to the first 20 orderers. (It was sent to more people by mistake.)

In summary, to prevent damage to the product during delivery
We custom-made a very sturdy box, but it hasn't arrived yet.

It is delayed by about 2-3 weeks than expected.
Fortunately, it will arrive in a few days.

Here is the full text of the email, including photos below. It was sent out yesterday.

-----------------------

I am Chan-min Kang

I am sorry for my late e-mail.
While we're trying to send you our product, one problem happened so the delivery will be delayed. This was an unexpected problem we hadn't anticipated and we couldn't do anything about it.

No one wants their keyboard to be destroyed while delivery.
We send products all over the world, and so far there have been occasions where the product has often been damaged.

Thus, we decided to make new boxes for shipping the products.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnTMTFDK/Kakao-Talk-20200708-170531569.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9F89jxx8/dw.png)

This is a thick and strong box for export abroad.

We couldn't find the size of the box we wanted among the boxes on the market.
We ordered these boxes a few weeks ago so we should have already received these boxes.
We're going to receive these boxes on July 14th because of a problem with the box making.
We are very sorry for the delay in the delivery of the product.

We couldn't let you know in advance because it was a delay caused by a problem with the box maker.
We are sorry again for the occurrence of this problem.

The delivery period we can send you the products will be from late July to early August.
Please email me if your address changes before shipping, or if you have any other inquiries.
We apologize to you again. We will try our best to send the product to you as quickly as possible.

-------------------
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Sat, 11 July 2020, 10:57:57
Hello, I'm Chan Min Kang

The update is later than expected. I'm so sorry.

Now we are in the producting of the keyboard.

It's being produced sequentially, and here's the picture.
...

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear the news boxes will protect them more adequately. Thanks for taking care.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Sat, 11 July 2020, 12:04:12
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Sat, 11 July 2020, 23:04:13
Thanks for the update 👍. Apologies for the rattle from me.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 15 July 2020, 22:10:04
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJn9F82v/dgl-box.jpg)

This is a small update. This is how a box is made in a factory.

Korea is a rainy season recently. Because of this, there is a slight delay.
We have to avoid rainy days because we ordered a box of about 800 pieces.
(Maybe you can check it by searching for 'south Korea weather' on Google.)

Fortunately, this does not mean an additional delay in delivery.

We'll update you if there's new news again!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 16 July 2020, 05:40:37
It was too good to be true :P thx for the updates! Much appreciated.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dcdcdc on Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:29:00
When does GB in Korea end?

We've been suffering for nearly a year.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Noveltty on Thu, 16 July 2020, 10:55:12
I write for the buyers

in Korean, MR.Kang aka kkingkkong is famous for being a LIAR.

He often broke his promises and had frequent delays.

So, Koreans never believe him currently.


RAINY SEASON? LIE.

It is true that Korea is in the rainy season, but there are few days when it actually rains.

There wasn't much rain to delay.

IN FACT, it is just laziness.


I was a buyer of his kbd, and I had been disappointed a lot with his lies.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 16 July 2020, 15:43:31
Good to know, Iíll set a calendar alarm for 6 months.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Thu, 16 July 2020, 18:32:23
(https://i2.wp.com/media4.giphy.com/media/hkMXte9dBJFfO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 16 July 2020, 20:36:39
Well damn.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Se1nZ on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:26:28
30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

(https://i.imgur.com/UQhlkut.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rrws9tG.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 06:10:54
30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UQhlkut.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rrws9tG.jpg)


hmmm.. I'm not in this buy so I'll reserve my thoughts.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: jsykm on Fri, 17 July 2020, 09:41:36
30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UQhlkut.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rrws9tG.jpg)


Hmm.. I'm wondering why he "randomly" selected only 9 people. Mind if I ask where you're located?

I don't mind delays as long as the guy is transparent and the keyboard arrives at some point (at least before I die)  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:10:05
Seems like most 660 group buys are cursed. I may rethink my decision
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:30:35
30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UQhlkut.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rrws9tG.jpg)


Hmm.. I'm wondering why he "randomly" selected only 9 people. Mind if I ask where you're located?

I don't mind delays as long as the guy is transparent and the keyboard arrives at some point (at least before I die)  :-[


i got the same email on 6 July as part of a group of 4 randomly selected people with the same details of a spring shipment.

However, i will add that i did not get a tracking number update in my Paypal invoice.

I've reached out to Chan Ming on his discord channe; to clear this up on Geekhack. Let's see what he says.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:40:37
I also got the same email as part of the spring shipment and my PayPal was also updated with a tracking number. I have literally reached out to him about 5 times through email with NO response. I think this is pretty unacceptable, really regretting spending the money on this keyboard as opposed to other ones.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Chumbee on Fri, 17 July 2020, 10:46:50
I was a part of the June 30th spring shipment ďrandomĒ group. I did think it was weird at the time. Why do I need springs if I donít even have the keyboard yet to make use of my switches???

I did get a tracking number for the springs but they have been in US Customs in Chicago since July 6th.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lizardguys on Fri, 17 July 2020, 11:34:28
Iím also got an email on July 6th and got the spring already. I just double checked my PayPal and it seems like the tracking was never updated.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:04:17
Welcome to the spring GB
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:19:34
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.

Any updates, pictures, etc would be greatly appreciated by all!


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Be patient bro, you're lucky to be in the first batch. It is only 4 days into July. As he stated, he'll give you an update as it comes.

If it's just an issue with boxes I'm sure just a few pictures (of a finished product) and a short update would really do this GB some good right about now.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:28:41
I donít know what to make of this but the other TKL GB is seemingly quiet as well. Anyone knows how May joined or paid here?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: X_point on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:42:04
my first custom keyboard... hopefully the experience doesn't leave a bad taste for the hobby
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: notverriegod on Fri, 17 July 2020, 13:13:41
these allegations do seem interesting
I guess ill be getting my tkl 2021:(
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: nikron on Fri, 17 July 2020, 16:35:45
I was a part of the June 30th spring shipment ďrandomĒ group. I did think it was weird at the time. Why do I need springs if I donít even have the keyboard yet to make use of my switches???

I did get a tracking number for the springs but they have been in US Customs in Chicago since July 6th.

This was problem done so paypal would release some of the money.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Fri, 17 July 2020, 17:44:52
I write for the buyers

in Korean, MR.Kang aka kkingkkong is famous for being a LIAR.

He often broke his promises and had frequent delays.

So, Koreans never believe him currently.


Can you provide any screenshots, timelines, or evidence for these statements?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 17 July 2020, 20:29:17

Sorry for the late.
I've known about that post since yesterday.
Yesterday I came in to write an update on geekhack, but I put the update post on hold because there was a controversy.
And I've prepared some to explain that.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VvMpq174/box2.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fW0GnjwX/box3.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kX3kn64H/box4.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv1SBDLC/box5.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrXvRmz3/box6.jpg)

The box we ordered arrived at the office on the 16th. Here's a picture, too. It's piled up in the warehouse.
When we sent the package last time, it was damaged. So it's a box that's been custom-made solidly for this purpose.

---

In the post above, it was actually a rainy season, but did you say that it only rained for a few days. right?

https://bit.ly/3eFrmFV

https://www.weather.go.kr/weather/climate/past_cal.jsp?stn=108&yy=2020&mm=7&obs=9&x=25&y=11
((Alternate URL, use Google Translator.)

Here's the weather records from the Korea Meteorological Administration.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mghqjQ6t/weather.png)

Based on Korean time, it was recorded that it rained on the 14th, when the original box was supposed to be picked up.

There has been a weather forecast for rain in our area, and regardless of whether it will actually rain or not, shipping cannot begin at the risk of damage to the box.

Yes. We have intermittent showers where our office is located.
So there is a forecast that it will rain, but does that mean it should have started shipping because it won't rain right away?
We didn't spend a lot of money on dampor wet boxes!

---

We sent DGL Spring first for 13 people out of 660 keyboard orders.
While waiting to receive the keyboard, it was a small secret event that gave some randomly chosen people something to enjoy.

Did you know that we sent those springs to EMS or UPS? We paid about $20 to 40 dollars per person to ship a five-dollar spring to one set.
We sent it to 13 people, and we spent about 600 dollars on this alone.

Also, This is not ready yet, so we didn't plan to reveal it at all, but we were also preparing for the homepage.
https://kkkk.works/en
We started this a few weeks ago. We even registered a PayPal test account.

(https://i.postimg.cc/jqFFMMBP/testaccount.png)

See the creation date?

If this is a scam, why would there be a reason to spend a lot of money making boxes, spending hundreds of dollars on shipping, and sending Spring first?
We wouldn't have even prepared to open a store to sell the accessories we made.
If this is a scam, it means that there is no need to make any effort like this.

---

We know that tracking information about sending Spring is suspicious of being registered in PayPal.
But this was for the convenience of the recipient.

Spring was sent in two separate shipments. When we first sent out the spring, we entered the tracking number in PayPal so that the recipient could easily track it.
At first, the shipping inquiry information for spring shipment was entered first, because it was possible to re-enter it when sending the keyboard.
However, the next time sent it out, we didn't enter tracking number on paypal.  it because we think someone might be worried about this.

This is the difference between the person with and without the tracking number on the PayPal.

If it's part of a fraud process to get money from PayPal quickly, why didn't we enter tracking information on PayPal from the second time?
We wanted the people who received this to try it on a different switch, or compare it to the other springs that they have.
To be honest, we wanted the recipients to like it and look forward to it. That's why we started.

---

We received a total of about 150 orders. It's really hard to manage because there's a lot.
We need to check and manage the production going back and forth from the factory almost every day and adjust the factory schedule such as post-processing work.
We know that a large number of orders in the U.S., so we are also preparing manufacturing proof documents to exempt tariffs.

So there is a delay in updates or email responses. The store in preparation is also experiencing delays due to this problem. we are always sorry for this.

---

It is true that we do not have a good evaluation in Korea. We had problems with our previous GB, and we had some serious problems.
There is also a problem that has been delayed for quite a long time. We are well aware of this and are reflecting on it.

So we fixed many problems and started GB with a new mindset.

We also announced the delay and updated the production status. right, actually the 660 delivery was delayed. It was a packaging problem, and as shown above, I saw the weather forecast and got it delivered on a rainy day. The boxes arrived safely and are now in our warehouse.


---


We know you're worried. But that kind of post looks malicious.
We're not even that famous. Have you ever heard of the products we made before? You might find it on YouTube. But this is a minority. We've been making keyboards for quite a while, but we're still small.

'Koreans never trust him?' The quantity of GB this time is larger than the number of keyboards we have made so far.
If we've made a huge amount of keyboards, that's right. But most people judge us only by rumors. If the total population of Korea was about 50, it would be true that Koreans never trust me.

Please believe us. We're working without time to sleep. We're trying, and we're trying to show this. I don't know why this controversy arose. It really wears us out.

Delivery will begin from late July to early August for quick delivery, and from September for the rest. This is already announced.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: victor_ on Sat, 18 July 2020, 05:49:26
You have to understand, the distrust on the part of the community before the delays, for my part, honestly, I decided to acquire the kkingkkong for the fast delivery, I thought that I would already have it in my hands because it looks incredible.
But due to all these unforeseen parts of me is sorry, perhaps if from the beginning I had known that the delivery would be later I would be much calmer and I would have bought it with another thought as well.
Still, I maintain my support for your project and I hope it will be solved soon. Greetings from a friend from Spain.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 18 July 2020, 07:15:22
Thx for the update once again :) Iím with the person above me, the fast shipment is what sold the board to me. Delays happen, so far there has been good communication from runners part so I still believe :)


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tekres on Sat, 18 July 2020, 10:48:24
I might be the minority here but I feel like the "I got the keyboard for the fast shipping" isn't a valid argument because there was literally zero guarantee that you would even be in the first 20 paid orders to get the fast shipping. All of us paid before knowing if we were going to be in the early shipping group or not.

Delays suck, but they happen. So far the updates have been a little slow but the "content" of these updates is fine to me. Maybe it's just that I do my best to just forget about a group buy until it ships because I've read a bunch of stories about long delays on previous ones? This was my first one for a board so while I'm eager to get it, I'd rather wait a bit extra to make sure it shows up in the right condition.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dasdingo on Sat, 18 July 2020, 14:01:15
I am also a new comer. And this is my first group buy. I asked Chanming several questions via email before and after I joined the group buy. He can constantly get back to me in 2 days. Plus, he is providing evidences to prove that he is doing his best. I think he is doing fine so far. But please keep updating us all. I think communication is key of doing business.

And for the one who spoke badly about Chanming, please give us evidence to support your accusations
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Sat, 18 July 2020, 14:42:51
I am also a new comer. And this is my first group buy. I asked Chanming several questions via email before and after I joined the group buy. He can constantly get back to me in 2 days. Plus, he is providing evidences to prove that he is doing his best. I think he is doing fine so far. But please keep updating us all. I think communication is key of doing business.

And for the one who spoke badly about Chanming, please give us evidence to support your accusations

Agreed with the keyword here - accusation
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: victor_ on Sat, 18 July 2020, 18:36:36
I might be the minority here but I feel like the "I got the keyboard for the fast shipping" isn't a valid argument because there was literally zero guarantee that you would even be in the first 20 paid orders to get the fast shipping. All of us paid before knowing if we were going to be in the early shipping group or not.

Delays suck, but they happen. So far the updates have been a little slow but the "content" of these updates is fine to me. Maybe it's just that I do my best to just forget about a group buy until it ships because I've read a bunch of stories about long delays on previous ones? This was my first one for a board so while I'm eager to get it, I'd rather wait a bit extra to make sure it shows up in the right condition.
I totally agree, maybe I don't express myself correctly, my English is very bad.
When you enter a GB you already know that everything takes a long time, effort and work. but knowing that I was in the top 20 increased my hype.
I contacted Chanmin by email, and he responded almost instantly, and clarified my doubts.
For my part I do not see any neglicencia, I see the work and the effort, otherwise Chanmin would not bother to give explanations.
The unforeseen are normal things in life, please, a little calm and tranquility, I am sure that we will all enjoy our KKingKKong sooner than we think. Love for everyone.
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Post by: h40 on Sat, 18 July 2020, 18:46:46
I don't think participants in the group buy are holding Chanmin to the fire for the delays themselves. Though I would argue is that managing a group buy means managing a small community of hopefully happy customers, and to do that successfully requires a level of transparency and honesty.

For instance, if you state that you will be shipping something on a certain specific date (~July 1) and wait 10 days (~July 10) to supply an update indicating there will be a delay I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some level of backlash which could have been avoided with a simple "heads up" and further detailed update later.

The addition of other community commentary regarding reputation is still all the while disconcerting, but still warrants some level of evidence to support.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Mon, 20 July 2020, 09:38:49
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNWKnkVB/0720.jpg)

This is to inform you that sorting and packing has begun for the initial shipment.



We will try to update even small things more often.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:26:23
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0vQwncj/pcb1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2H87tq1/pcb2.jpg)

Firmware Flashing and PCB Testing for Product Shipment

If you need an indicator led, you can use 4 TPs below the PCB.

N, C, S, and R are Num Lock, Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and RGB respectively.
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Post by: bobgr8 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:38:05
Please add ESD protection :D, would be an Insta-buy
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Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:49:47
That's the one thing that still surprises me. But for the price I couldn't really bother too much about it.
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Post by: menuhin on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:58:19
This design looks among the cleanest for 65%, I missed out on this.
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Post by: Sylvestyeo on Tue, 21 July 2020, 08:34:04
Really appreciate the updates and pictures!
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Post by: Se1nZ on Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:59:50
Yesterday the spring arrived.

(https://i.imgur.com/dXnGbVz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vioYfEW.jpg)

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package declared as 2 packs of spring.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:43:10
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgLv8L5V/Kakao-Talk-20200722-161514536.jpg)

It's being packaged one by one. We are trying to ship as fast as possible.
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Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:52:31
Nice :) packing one by one is the way to go, just do mine first


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Post by: Awayhugepickle on Wed, 22 July 2020, 16:58:12
looking great! thanks for all the updates!
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Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:56:45
Strong turn around. Chanmin working hard to keep people happy.

Thanks for the updates!
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Post by: victor_ on Thu, 23 July 2020, 09:25:07
Thanks for the updates!!!! waiting the shipping and to receive mine!
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Post by: dasdingo on Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:09:08
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Cannot wait to see the impressions from people got the first 20 boards before I got mine!
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Post by: jsykm on Thu, 23 July 2020, 11:54:25
Appreciate the frequent updates! I know it's a lot extra work on your end, but it helps us out a lot  :)
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Post by: h40 on Mon, 27 July 2020, 19:38:16
Awesome! So appropriately protective boxes have come in, and packing and shipping has begun? Anyone receive notification for shipment?
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Post by: josemannyadame on Mon, 27 July 2020, 20:59:43
Yes! Any updates? Super excited for those getting their boards early!
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Post by: Kinesiologist on Mon, 27 July 2020, 21:13:30
All GB units are produced and ready to be shipped?
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 28 July 2020, 01:16:52
Temporary deletion due to writing
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Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 28 July 2020, 01:25:33
What does that show? :0
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Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 28 July 2020, 02:04:55
Without knowing any Korean whatsoever, I'm guessing it's an invoice from a factory for 100 boards that was placed on July 2nd for ₩10,700,000.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 28 July 2020, 04:46:43

Product shipment has been started. In this process, we decided to change some of the delivery methods.

Last time we sent the spring, we sent it all using EMS. (exception 1 case).
EMS is the highest-priced delivery method that can be selected from the Korean post office.

We have shipped nearly 20 items in total through EMS, and in the process we found that EMS is not suitable for delivery.
EMS is irresponsible for tracking delivery, and its response to problems is too insufficient.
Also, there is a high risk of loss when shipping the keyboard, and compensation requires a very complicated process.

In fact, about 6 of the items we sent via EMS were lost or returned without arriving in the middle.
We have decided to change the delivery method due to the complicated and slow process and the long delivery time required.

Here's an example of what actually happened.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gJJ2xn3P/8-238-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYQYcnkN/8-238-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/N0QMwNMF/8-238-3.jpg)

We sent the package with the zip code of 80238, something went wrong in the middle, and it became 80239, and was eventually returned.
We contacted the Korean Post Office and USPS, but we could not get compensation for this, and there was a considerable cost and time loss. (We also paid the return fee.)

We judged that EMS was not suitable after several such accidents, so we decided to entrust overseas shipping companies regarding shipping.

When we send the package to this company, the shipping company will link it with FedEx, DHL, etc. and send it to the most appropriate company.
This makes it easy to get compensation for a delay or error, such as a return, loss, etc.
And maybe using FedEx or DHL will reduce the delivery time a lot.

Domestic shipping and reception fees will be incurred in this process, but we will pay the full cost, so you don't have to worry.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 28 July 2020, 04:52:22
Another update. For general shipping keyboards other than 20 units shipped first, the progress so far is as below.

Bottom Case : 20% progress.

Top Case : 80% progress.

Plate : 90% progress.

PCB : 90% progress.


5 out of 20 units for the first shipment will be shipped tomorrow morning. The rest will be sent out in a few days. (for prevent problems when shipping.)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkdLBRPg/660-2.png)

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Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:03:57
Nice! I appreciate the update! Great work :)
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Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 29 July 2020, 01:23:25
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKKhcT8w/660-1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QdhxWWx9/660-2.jpg)

It is finally the first shipment!

The products are sent to the company in charge for overseas shipping. It will probably be received within 2 days and boarding on the flight.

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Post by: josemannyadame on Wed, 29 July 2020, 08:30:48
Great! I canít wait for those who are getting it early!
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Post by: aloevera on Fri, 31 July 2020, 01:41:16
Will the early shipments be receiving a separate shipping notification?
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Post by: josemannyadame on Fri, 31 July 2020, 16:24:54
Anybody get shipping notifications? :D
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Post by: Winster on Fri, 31 July 2020, 20:30:24
No shipping notification yet.
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Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 31 July 2020, 20:35:33
No shipping notification here either.
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Post by: josemannyadame on Fri, 31 July 2020, 20:51:35
F, hopefully everything goes alright with the shipping, everything has been backed up lately. As for shipping notifications I hope all those who are getting the board early get them! :)
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Post by: victor_ on Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:31:30
No shipping notification yet.
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Post by: h40 on Sat, 01 August 2020, 10:40:19
Nothing on my end but I was middle of the pack of first 20.

Also a bit unclear on the shipping process through this separate organization but at the very least I understand (edit: from lack of indication) chanmin did not personally email the "5" recipients.
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Post by: josemannyadame on Sat, 01 August 2020, 11:04:52
Yea I think he shouldíve emailed the people at least. Especially if they shipped out 3 days ago now, we will just have to wait for another update I guess
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Post by: dbjowett on Sun, 02 August 2020, 02:10:16
Mine arrived! I live in Korea though.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/bf797127f8b13e10b17ceac931f18e7a.jpg)
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Post by: h40 on Sun, 02 August 2020, 02:24:37
Awesome congrats! Share more pics? :)
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Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 02 August 2020, 03:22:13
Did you get any tracking though, thatís the important question :) also, more pictures please :P


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Post by: dbjowett on Sun, 02 August 2020, 04:57:04
No, I didn't get a tracking number or anything to say it had been shipped. I was surprised when it showed up yesterday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/c2535ffa3cab65e8413270b358bf9643.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/0b8cfb062a50523fe181eaa60950616e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/f0bc6235fe877cbd0c5a1bf91e6159a0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/d0ab93fcbd2d5762d25e9fd6c014cfc3.jpg)
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Post by: josemannyadame on Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:35:37
Nice! How do you like it! C:
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Post by: Se1nZ on Mon, 03 August 2020, 01:22:34
No, I didn't get a tracking number or anything to say it had been shipped. I was surprised when it showed up yesterday.
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can you compare the ano with your other board?
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Post by: lovidore on Mon, 03 August 2020, 05:41:50
Thanks for the updates and transparency. Hoping to see more good news soon.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 04 August 2020, 03:06:33
Hello, we are informing about the delivery.

We started the shipping process for colors that are pre-made and can be sent immediately.

The new anodized color will be shipped soon (early August).

Some time delays may occur in the process of using a shipping specialist, but we will update it as often as possible.
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Post by: victor_ on Tue, 04 August 2020, 06:07:59
Hello, we are informing about the delivery.

We started the shipping process for colors that are pre-made and can be sent immediately.

The new anodized color will be shipped soon (early August).

Some time delays may occur in the process of using a shipping specialist, but we will update it as often as possible.

Chanmin thanks for the updates, sorry,  are you going to provide a tracking number? Are all 20 keyboards shipped already?
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Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 04 August 2020, 10:08:19
Hello Chanmin I think you should send out an email to those who you already the shipping process for, I think they would greatly appreciate it just so they have the peace of mind that it is sent already. Just a thought! Thank you for the update though!
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Post by: jsykm on Tue, 04 August 2020, 10:33:21
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It is finally the first shipment!

The products are sent to the company in charge for overseas shipping. It will probably be received within 2 days and boarding on the flight.

Considering that the cost of shipping is so low on this receipt and that he shipped via GS25, I'm guessing the first shipment only included local orders.

I think he would have posted the receipt for international orders if he had already sent them, but I could be wrong.

Chanmin, we appreciate your hard work and updates, but we'd also appreciate it if you sent us more information about which orders have been fulfilled. I'm sure some sort of tracking sheet for the orders would give some peace of mind for a lot of us.
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Post by: pamorama on Tue, 04 August 2020, 11:11:32
We started the shipping process for colors that are pre-made and can be sent immediately.

The new anodized color will be shipped soon (early August).

RIP, my order - I chose to get champagne gold, one of the new ano colours. Based on the timeline so far, I'm going to assume that early August = late August. Maybe even September??

Thanks for the updates, and good luck with the shipping process! However, I wish the time estimates were a little more conservative from the very beginning to minimize disappointment if things didn't go as planned.

I decided to give this group buy the benefit of the doubt, despite there being a few yellow flags, so I guess this is simply the outcome of my choices, ha. Lesson learned.
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Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 04 August 2020, 11:20:21
I donít think thatís his fault, also the shipping was said to be in September unless you were one of the lucky ones to get the board earlier. Heís fine on his timeline but we just need more clarity about local and international orders thats all.
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Post by: chriszhu on Tue, 04 August 2020, 12:40:37
Fingers crossed that my rose gold will arrive sometime in August 😊
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Post by: pamorama on Tue, 04 August 2020, 13:09:06
I donít think thatís his fault, also the shipping was said to be in September unless you were one of the lucky ones to get the board earlier. Heís fine on his timeline but we just need more clarity about local and international orders thats all.

My order was one of the first 20, that was meant to ship in July. :)

I also want to clarify that there is no blame here, per se - but the reality is that as a groupbuy runner, there is a responsibility to manage buyers' expectations.
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Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 04 August 2020, 21:19:34
Hello, we are informing about the delivery.

We started the shipping process for colors that are pre-made and can be sent immediately.

The new anodized color will be shipped soon (early August).

Some time delays may occur in the process of using a shipping specialist, but we will update it as often as possible.

just want to make sure, for the new shipping specialist shipment, can it be tracked? if can, where can we track it?
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 04 August 2020, 22:18:51
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0nnbNvH/mt.png)

We have completed the shipment to the carrier and paid for it.
However, it is still waiting to be shipped. I'll ask about this. We will update the tracking number as soon as it appears.


(https://i.postimg.cc/3W5gdzZh/01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNRPQt48/02.jpg)

We visited the factory today and tried to do an intermediate check.

But the heavy rain caused some of the buildings at the previous station where we were located to collapse and hit the railways, causing the train to stop.

Restoration is in progress, but I don't know when it will end.

Since we have another schedule, we contacted the factory and rescheduled the visit.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 04 August 2020, 22:55:58
Bottom Case : 40% progress.

Top Case : 100%

Plate : 90% progress.

PCB : 100% progress.
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Post by: h40 on Tue, 04 August 2020, 23:13:16
Hi chanmin I think the folks here would appreciate a simple answer, have the first 20 orders shipped? Thanks!
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Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 05 August 2020, 01:54:45
Hi chanmin I think the folks here would appreciate a simple answer, have the first 20 orders shipped? Thanks!

The first 20 orders are in the shipping process.

The process may take some time because it will be delivered via an outside company. But I will update you as soon as the shipping information is updated.
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Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 05 August 2020, 02:03:04
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydfSKYjg/address-error2.png)

Another package has been returned. The problem is that there is a problem after reaching the destination country.

If it was not delivered because there was no one in the address, it will be returned in a few days. Additional charges will be charged for such accidents, including return charges.
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Post by: beerafffe1 on Wed, 05 August 2020, 07:52:32
I think it would be beneficial if tracking number for shipped orders was provided so people can track their delivery and setup alternate delivery/pickup options in case they are not home at the time of delivery. Without a tracking number it is going to be hard to know when the package will show up or be home all the time. Not sure if the packages are signature restricted which adds more complexity on the receiver's end.

TL:DR - Add tracking number if not already doing so for shipped orders.
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Post by: pamorama on Wed, 05 August 2020, 10:38:24
The first 20 orders are in the shipping process.

When you say the first 20 orders are in the shipping process, does this include the ones with new anodization colours?
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Post by: h40 on Wed, 05 August 2020, 11:25:30
I know this doesn't quite contribute to the discussion, but I have to say the combination oversharing, ambiguity, and excuse making here is unfortunately quite disconcerting.

Crossing my fingers.
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Post by: Awayhugepickle on Wed, 05 August 2020, 13:19:47
I know this doesn't quite contribute to the discussion, but I have to say the combination oversharing, ambiguity, and excuse making here is unfortunately quite disconcerting.

Crossing my fingers.

I know right? Maybe some of the details are getting lost in translation.
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Post by: josemannyadame on Thu, 06 August 2020, 18:59:07
That could be the case and shipping right now anywhere is quite frankly a mess, however the fact that absolutely no one got a tracking from what has been said is really disconcerting. How are they supposed to know where their board is and have assurance that their board is shipped. If the first twenty boards are shipped and handled like this I can not imagine how it will be once ALL the other boards are shipped as well.
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Post by: h40 on Thu, 06 August 2020, 19:00:11
It's simple, they weren't shipped.
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Post by: notverriegod on Thu, 06 August 2020, 22:58:53
Well, we'll see whether or not this turns out to be fine or a complete disaster. Either way their reputation is getting affected by their dismissive behavior and lack of response. Not providing a tracking label for the early 20 is really suspicious and is a sign of how unorganized they are. Hopefully they do uphold their end of the group buy
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Post by: Winster on Fri, 07 August 2020, 06:15:48
Well, we'll see whether or not this turns out to be fine or a complete disaster. Either way their reputation is getting affected by their dismissive behavior and lack of response. Not providing a tracking label for the early 20 is really suspicious and is a sign of how unorganized they are. Hopefully they do uphold their end of the group buy

I donít see why it is that difficult to give clarity on whether the boards are shipped, which ones are shipped plus tracking, which ones are not. Rest of the explanation thatís thrown about is irrelevant.

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Post by: notverriegod on Fri, 07 August 2020, 10:51:26
Apparently it's being processed and the tracking numbers will be released on Monday due to delivery issues and whatnot
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Post by: h40 on Fri, 07 August 2020, 13:31:15
No, I didn't get a tracking number or anything to say it had been shipped. I was surprised when it showed up yesterday.
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So how did this turn out? Did you get a chance to assemble?
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Post by: pamorama on Fri, 07 August 2020, 14:57:22
I'm going to 1) cross my fingers and hope that the first 20 get delivered to the people who ordered them eventually, and 2) try and forget that there was any timeline associated with it.
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Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:52:56
I mean, thereís no need to panic yet or anything. But what does kinda disappoint me is that I joined with a specific color and layout for an early July shipping and now it feels like it wouldnít really have mattered.


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Post by: victor_ on Sat, 08 August 2020, 18:07:33
Days go by and everything is somewhat confused. I think it is a necessity that the tracking of the shipments be sent, and notify when the shipment has been made.
We all know that the time in this world of keyboards is always somewhat ambiguous and indicative, but if transparency and clarity are necessary.
I don't need to panic, nor do I have to give up hope, we all know the hard work that goes into it, but I still feel like I need a lot more necessary information that is not being provided to me.
All my Love.
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Post by: darkcl on Sun, 09 August 2020, 23:06:54
I just got my tracking no. :thumb:

Should be receiving the package today (according to SF express)
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Post by: Sylvestyeo on Mon, 10 August 2020, 00:38:49
for anyone not on discord

++++++

Cake08/07/2020
Any updates here? Do you think you can at least update the PayPal invoice with the tracking number for the first 20 orders?
I think people are getting anxious since nobody has received tracking numbers, which is a normal GB practice

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS08/07/2020
The tracking number of all products has not been issued yet.
Some are still being processed by the shipping center.
The delivery company depends on the destination country.
For example, it is delivered using SF Express in China, EMS in Canada, and DHL in Spain.
The work is being processed sequentially, and we have two tracking numbers and two unique numbers per keyboard because of the use of the shipping agency.
It will be updated from Monday because we need time to process it.
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Post by: Awayhugepickle on Mon, 10 August 2020, 06:36:59
for anyone not on discord

++++++

Cake08/07/2020
Any updates here? Do you think you can at least update the PayPal invoice with the tracking number for the first 20 orders?
I think people are getting anxious since nobody has received tracking numbers, which is a normal GB practice

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS08/07/2020
The tracking number of all products has not been issued yet.
Some are still being processed by the shipping center.
The delivery company depends on the destination country.
For example, it is delivered using SF Express in China, EMS in Canada, and DHL in Spain.
The work is being processed sequentially, and we have two tracking numbers and two unique numbers per keyboard because of the use of the shipping agency.
It will be updated from Monday because we need time to process it.

Thanks Sylvestyeo, thats a good update. When you are shipping packages internationally it does take time to fill out all the custom forms and get everything shipped. I shipped a package to israel the other day and it took me maybe 30 minutes at the post office. Let's say you were shipping five packages a day, that might take you two and a half hours. But my problem is this. Why would you not take an extra 15 minutes to get the people whose packages you shipped that day updated with their tracking numbers? That part isn't difficult. Sure, its annoying but it is not difficult. That way people would have some piece of mind that things are moving a long.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: victor_ on Mon, 10 August 2020, 07:28:23
I just received my tracking number!!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: darkcl on Mon, 10 August 2020, 07:53:59
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200810/818330255a943a38e58353b010b0f332.jpg)

Cannot wait to build it


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 15:01:44
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Cannot wait to build it


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I just received my tracking number!!


Good luck! Do you mind sharing which order number you were? Chammin indicated that orders would be processed sequentially.

Also really looking forward to seeing builds complete here and some sound tests if possible.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Mon, 10 August 2020, 16:01:34
Happy for everyone getting their boards and tracking numbers! I canít wait to see those complete builds!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: beerafffe1 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 17:42:14
I think I am 3rd on the list for first 20, and I have heard nothing. Not really worried too much but I doubt it is shipped sequentially.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Mon, 10 August 2020, 19:19:51
I think I am 3rd on the list for first 20, and I have heard nothing. Not really worried too much but I doubt it is shipped sequentially.

Strange, my email notification to verify my order said my order number is 3 as well. We couldnít possible have the same order number .
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: beerafffe1 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 20:04:27
I was going by the list posted earlier -

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004

I think mine is 0004, so went with third on the list. Either way, might have gone for the cerakote option if I knew this was delayed this much and waiting for those colors wouldn't have made a difference. Oh well...
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aloevera on Tue, 11 August 2020, 14:49:42
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

being near the bottom of the list, I'll probs be getting mine sometime in December then ^_^
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: victor_ on Tue, 11 August 2020, 15:28:30
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Cannot wait to build it


從我的iPhone使用Tapatalk 發送

I just received my tracking number!!


Good luck! Do you mind sharing which order number you were? Chammin indicated that orders would be processed sequentially.

Also really looking forward to seeing builds complete here and some sound tests if possible.
660_0011
The number 8 in the list
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Tue, 11 August 2020, 15:48:23
This GB has only been over for less than two months, you guys will get your boards, just be patient.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 17:47:27
This GB has only been over for less than two months, you guys will get your boards, just be patient.

Again frostfiree you are seeming to forget the explicit initial communication in this group buy that the first 20 in stock anodized boards would ship 2 weeks after GB close, with still no direct communication to the recipient that they have or will be shipped soon. I doubt anyone currently concerned with the whereabouts of their boards right now are outside of that group of 20.

Yes, most GBs it would be unusual for folks to ask about their boards within 2 months of close, but most GBs don't also include this promise for early delivery of first 20 orders. Whether it would be advisable or not, it's also probably fair to assume some people are solely in this GB as a result of that commitment, and as a result safe to assume that was expected and part of the reasoning of its communication in the first place.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Tue, 11 August 2020, 18:10:07
This GB has only been over for less than two months, you guys will get your boards, just be patient.

Again frostfiree you are seeming to forget the explicit initial communication in this group buy that the first 20 in stock anodized boards would ship 2 weeks after GB close, with still no direct communication to the recipient that they have or will be shipped soon. I doubt anyone currently concerned with the whereabouts of their boards right now are outside of that group of 20.

Yes, most GBs it would be unusual for folks to ask about their boards within 2 months of close, but most GBs don't also include this promise for early delivery of first 20 orders. Whether it would be advisable or not, it's also probably fair to assume some people are solely in this GB as a result of that commitment, and as a result safe to assume that was expected and part of the reasoning of its communication in the first place.

It is also safe to assume that because in such a niche hobby and industry, there can be very significant delays. GB runners, especially newer ones, may overpromise or underestimate the time it takes to process and get orders shipped out even for a board that was finished in advance. Of course, as a runner, they can be more communicative, I understand that. But also as a buyer, we need to understand that GB runners are real people with real commitments outside of the hobby. If I remember correctly, we all entered this GB knowing that it was a preorder, so for the runner to even offer 20 boards early is a blessing.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 18:15:21
This GB has only been over for less than two months, you guys will get your boards, just be patient.

Again frostfiree you are seeming to forget the explicit initial communication in this group buy that the first 20 in stock anodized boards would ship 2 weeks after GB close, with still no direct communication to the recipient that they have or will be shipped soon. I doubt anyone currently concerned with the whereabouts of their boards right now are outside of that group of 20.

Yes, most GBs it would be unusual for folks to ask about their boards within 2 months of close, but most GBs don't also include this promise for early delivery of first 20 orders. Whether it would be advisable or not, it's also probably fair to assume some people are solely in this GB as a result of that commitment, and as a result safe to assume that was expected and part of the reasoning of its communication in the first place.

It is also safe to assume that because in such a niche hobby and industry, there can be very significant delays. GB runners, especially newer ones, may overpromise or underestimate the time it takes to process and get orders shipped out even for a board that was finished in advance. Of course, as a runner, they can be more communicative, I understand that. But also as a buyer, we need to understand that GB runners are real people with real commitments outside of the hobby. If I remember correctly, we all entered this GB knowing that it was a preorder, so for the runner to even offer 20 boards early is a blessing.

I would totally sympathize with what you're saying more but it wasn't a pre-order for first 20. It was literally communicated (and now weirdly struck through as if items could no longer be completed) that the items were already produced, and would ship starting July 1st.

It literally says "Before we started GB, we completed some keyboards."

I get it, sit back, let it happen, boards will eventually come. But on the other hand, there's no excuse here.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Tue, 11 August 2020, 23:34:14
Quite frankly I joined in for the first 20 and kinda gave off the opportunity to choose a cerakoted option.
So...

Between I am 003.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 12 August 2020, 00:52:50
Yeah - As someone who went with cerakote I can see how people who tried to get the first 20 would be upset that what was essentially advertised as an in-stock, ready to ship item is now nearly a month and a half late from the shipping date with zero confirmation that it's been sent out.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Wed, 12 August 2020, 08:57:10
Looks like I missed out :(
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 13 August 2020, 20:48:33

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpKwzpLt/6601.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq2KNhTs/6602.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXP4B059/6603.jpg)

t was taken at the factory yesterday. It is currently being produced.


If you are in your early twenties, please send us an email and we will inform you of the current progress. (kkingkkongworks@gmail.com)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Fri, 14 August 2020, 05:43:40
Looking great! Almost unreal to see such a massive stack of solid aluminum.
Are we still on schedule for late september delivery? 

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 14 August 2020, 10:46:15

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t was taken at the factory yesterday. It is currently being produced.


If you are in your early twenties, please send us an email and we will inform you of the current progress. (kkingkkongworks@gmail.com)

Sent an email to inquire on my order since I'm in the first 20, please let me know where things are at.

Thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 14 August 2020, 12:50:12
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2CMLhzP/Kakao-Talk-20200814-180426993.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jtLLHYS/Kakao-Talk-20200814-180426993-01.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: pamorama on Fri, 14 August 2020, 13:42:05
If you are in your early twenties, please send us an email and we will inform you of the current progress. (kkingkkongworks@gmail.com)

I just sent an email, because I'm in the first 20 group! (why i need to post in the thread as well, who knows... but visibility is never a bad thing at this point)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: beerafffe1 on Sat, 15 August 2020, 07:38:31
If you are in your early twenties, please send us an email and we will inform you of the current progress. (kkingkkongworks@gmail.com)

I just sent an email, because I'm in the first 20 group! (why i need to post in the thread as well, who knows... but visibility is never a bad thing at this point)

I actually sent an email a few days ago about the status and if it hasn't been shipped or even produced yet, what the options we have. Haven't heard anything back and that email was sent before the message asking us to send an email. I have been part of GBs that have been delayed and gone years in the past, yet nothing like this. I am confused as to why 20 completed boards got delayed by 6 weeks(even accounting for the rains, the boxes and the shipping vendor which was more two weeks ago) and here we are still no sign of where they are or what's happening.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Sat, 15 August 2020, 07:52:12
Same story here. Email sent before and after the last update. Yet no response. A simply update on this post to indicate which of the orders have been shipped out, when are test going out and so on. At this point the only thing that happening is my post count here is going up.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 15 August 2020, 22:32:24
Hello, I apologize for the delay in the update.
To put it to the point, we can't use the office right now.

The continued heavy rain has flooded the office recently.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1RNcRktm/fld1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2kxTNRm/fld2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTXXLDLn/flood3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sg3pc1Jx/flood4.jpg)


Many of our equipment, including our work PCs, got wet and stopped working.

Because of this, we urgently called a moving company to move all of our luggage from the office to the warehouse to prevent further damage.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JzKjdmTq/flood.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLTCRcBj/flood2.jpg)

We are currently in a lawsuit with the property owner on this matter.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmgkQPxp/law1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3ws6WggW/law2.jpg)

The problem is, I couldn't use my office PC. The Gmail account information was in the office.

As a result, it took time for us to recover our account access rights.

Now we have full access to geekhack, unlike some time ago when only geekhack had limited access. And now we have access to gmail and order information.

Currently, we are working at home. You will be able to answer your email and inquiries soon.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.


There is a problem with the proceeding of the lawsuit, and we have to visit the factory, so we may be a little late. But I'll try my best.

Summary: The heavy rain has locked the office and moved all the luggage to the warehouse. This caused a delay because the office PC was unavailable. We are now able to reuse the information we need to work on.

Email inquiries are now being processed, and for the first 20 delivery delays, there is a problem with the shipping agency. I will send you a personal email about this.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Seoulcialite on Sun, 16 August 2020, 09:42:04
I don't know KKKK / chanmin personally and I've never bought one of their boards but it seems like a they are being blamed for delays that are mostly out of their control. I currently reside in Korea and I can confirm that it is currently monsoon season here. There has been lots of issues with flooding in the past 2-3 weeks. Also, while I have had no issues with EMS shipping, due to the current COVID shipping situation the possible shipping destinations from Korea via EMS has been cut down to 18 countries. Also, before COVID, the shipping times for EMS were 3 to 5 business days. However, lately the shipping times seem to range from 5 to 15 days. So, I can understand their decision to change the shipping process.

I agree that their communication could be better and things seem to be lost in translation but they have ran a handful of successful GBs domestically in Korea and I believe they are doing the best they can.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 16 August 2020, 10:16:06
I do believe everything is legit and will work out in the end. Itís just so much weird things happening :P


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: pamorama on Tue, 18 August 2020, 08:32:59
Just want to share that I got an email this morning confirming that my order (one of the first 20) has in fact shipped, but that they are somewhat in the dark about the progress of the shipment, since the shipping agency has not updated the status for a long time. Here's hoping that there is actual movement of the packages, despite the status not being updated, and that any news they receive will be communicated to everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 19 August 2020, 10:25:34
(https://i.postimg.cc/j51tJJBg/Kakao-Talk-20200819-164514641.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cC8Z7LSs/Kakao-Talk-20200819-164514641-01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/14hSv1mD/Kakao-Talk-20200819-164514641-02.jpg)

Production Update-(Not sandblasted yet)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 19 August 2020, 11:42:46
Show Image
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Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/cC8Z7LSs/Kakao-Talk-20200819-164514641-01.jpg)

Show Image
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Production Update-(Not sandblasted yet)

In the first 20, sent an email last Thursday (8/13) on my order status, just followed up today again, please let me know once you have a chance.

Appreciate the production picture updates!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aloevera on Thu, 20 August 2020, 15:19:39
I am also part of the first 20 and have sent a few e-mails/messages over the span of the last couple weeks. I would appreciate an update as I have not heard anything back nor a shipping notification. Cheers
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Thu, 20 August 2020, 15:35:44
Tomfoolery.

The message provided to first 20 includes a screenshot of package records indicating they are "preparing for delivery", and not as to whether those packages are addressed to the buyer. Edit: No address, order number, or invoice number.

I believe it's fair to assume they have not shipped yet, and to be honest given the nature of this ambiguous over-sharing of perhaps irrelevant (to folks who were promised early shipment of in-stock items) information, and lack of communication it's also completely within reason to suspect the screenshot isn't even of items preparing for delivery to those folks.

Think about it. How hard would it be to look up an order on behalf of less than 20 people who sent you over $300 and provide this information?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Fri, 21 August 2020, 04:31:13
Yeah it's definitely very odd.

I fully believe we'll all get our product in the end, but the 20 people that ended up joining just to get it early clearly got shafted.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 21 August 2020, 05:59:34
Hello, I apologize for the delay in the update.
To put it to the point, we can't use the office right now.

The continued heavy rain has flooded the office recently.

Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RNcRktm/fld1.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2kxTNRm/fld2.jpg)

...

Flooding in Korea?

Isn't flooding only a China problem as I've seen on the mainstream media?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Fri, 21 August 2020, 08:07:43
No they definitely did deal with numerous flash floods, several people died as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Korean_floods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Korean_floods)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 22 August 2020, 01:24:03
bless the rain gods
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Sat, 22 August 2020, 01:47:35
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kjtQHWr/Kakao-Talk-20200822-131309300.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7PdXx2Mt/Kakao-Talk-20200822-131309300-01.jpg)

Secondary processing has been completed. Only the third processing remains.

---

Currently, we are not in a situation where we can do a lot of work at once. WE recently visited the factory a lot of time to check the secondary work. What we haven't done yet, we will be able to deal with it soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Sat, 22 August 2020, 03:03:14
Thanks for the update. I hope your issues get resolved soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dcdcdc on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:46:50
KKKK.works Korean group Buy has already exploded.
Many users are angry.
To postpone or lie in disguise as an excuse.
Many complaints are pouring out from the Korean community.
However, he has been making excuses for months without solving the problem.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:50:00
Recently, we are in the factory for a long time. Because we have to spend so much time on QC due to more orders than we expected.

There was a big problem with the factory recently.
Production errors have occurred in some of the items currently in production.

The cause is wear on the end mill.

During keyboard production, the end mill mounted on the MCT was worn out and some products were damaged.
Many of them can be reworked and are currently in progress, but about 15 are damaged and cannot be used.


he end mill is a blade that cuts aluminum blocks to make keyboards. It has a fixed life span and needs to be replaced with a new one, like a Cutter knife blade.

Looking at the photo we uploaded earlier, the keyboard is flat and the typing angle is 0 degrees, but the slope is created in 3rd machining.
During this third machining process, the end mill was worn out, resulting in defects and we have to re-produce that quantity.

We found it early and prevented more damage, but there will be a slight delay in delivery. This is because the anodizing schedule has been delayed due to the reproduction schedule.



This is a picture of the product before the last processing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xt8ZYtC/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/44LK1ZLr/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqS0qqny/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-02.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/X7rrHhtX/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-03.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgMtR9Ls/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-04.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQRXdpGp/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-05.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BbVXZcPq/Kakao-Talk-20200826-162057667-06.jpg)



Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 26 August 2020, 16:09:28
So how about tracking codes for the boards already shipped...?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:15:09
What shipped boards?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:22:27
Wish I was made aware of the 660 curse sooner  :p
I mean I'm thinking I'll get this keyboard in a few months but this group buy make me uncomfortable at times.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:30:03
We will be lucky if these board ship in September. This group buy has been filled with miscommunications and problems all around. This group buy is a mess which is why so many people feel uncomfortable and uneasy about our boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:34:38
I guess the low price point might have been too good to be true.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:41:27
So how about tracking codes for the boards already shipped...?

Yeah, not sure why it takes so long to get tracking information for those boards that have shipped.
There are only 20 boards to be shipped initially, it really shouldn't be that difficult to come out and say how many of those 20 boards are shipped, and which ones still need to be packaged/shipped...

The order numbers were all posted previously as well:
:blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Wed, 26 August 2020, 17:59:05
This is shaping up to be an amazing case study on how not to run a group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Wed, 26 August 2020, 22:09:35
So how about tracking codes for the boards already shipped...?

Yeah, not sure why it takes so long to get tracking information for those boards that have shipped.
There are only 20 boards to be shipped initially, it really shouldn't be that difficult to come out and say how many of those 20 boards are shipped, and which ones still need to be packaged/shipped...

The order numbers were all posted previously as well:
  • 660_0001
  • 660_0003
  • 660_0004
  • 660_0006
  • 660_0007
  • 660_0009
  • 660_0010
  • 660_0011
  • 660_0015
  • 660_0034
  • 660_0039
  • 660_0042
  • 660_0047
  • 660_0054
  • 660_0061
  • 660_0063
  • 660_0073
  • 660_0085
  • 660_0086
:blank:


I received an email last week which stated that the 20 boards are sent to the shipping agency. And due to a problem with the shipping agency these boards are not processed any further yet.
I am beginning to forget that I paid for this board.

I donít get the point. How difficult is it to contact the shipping agency and get the details, ETA and provide that to us? Assuming there were 20 boards and a problematic shipping agency in the first place.

So where are the 20 boards. Do they really exist or are they sole
Mythical keyboards that we tell stories about to our grand kids.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 05:59:55
Wish I was made aware of the 660 curse sooner  :p
I mean I'm thinking I'll get this keyboard in a few months but this group buy make me uncomfortable at times.

I too was part of the owl660 buy that ended up with the guy running with our money. But needless to say Iíve been following this thread closely.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tropea on Thu, 27 August 2020, 10:19:38
Wish I was made aware of the 660 curse sooner  :p
I mean I'm thinking I'll get this keyboard in a few months but this group buy make me uncomfortable at times.

I too was part of the owl660 buy that ended up with the guy running with our money. But needless to say Iíve been following this thread closely.

Did you ever get a refund or anything? This is my first gb and after reading through the thread ive been a bit uneasy but when i looked at the other gb from this company/person it seems like its been smooth sailing so idk what to think
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Thu, 27 August 2020, 10:38:42
Wish I was made aware of the 660 curse sooner  :p
I mean I'm thinking I'll get this keyboard in a few months but this group buy make me uncomfortable at times.

I too was part of the owl660 buy that ended up with the guy running with our money. But needless to say Iíve been following this thread closely.

Did you ever get a refund or anything? This is my first gb and after reading through the thread ive been a bit uneasy but when i looked at the other gb from this company/person it seems like its been smooth sailing so idk what to think

I don't think this will get to that point but it's just been bumpy and the runner hasn't been communicative. I think this will just end up with many delays is all.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: pamorama on Thu, 27 August 2020, 12:46:48
I too was part of the owl660 buy that ended up with the guy running with our money. But needless to say Iíve been following this thread closely.

I hope that if it's not possible to deliver on what was promised, that people will get a refund.
It's kind of alarming to hear things like "big problem with the factory" and "production errors have occurred in some of the items currently in production".
I'm really trying to give the benefit of the doubt here, but it sounds like my keyboard (which is supposed to be in the first 20...does that even mean anything anymore?) is either a) lost in the shipping system, or b) has not even shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Thu, 27 August 2020, 17:18:38
F in chat for us.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Thu, 27 August 2020, 17:21:46
Not necessarily clear why 2 out of 20 folks actually have received their board while others have not. Both local and international (Spain) customers, so doesn't necessarily indicate a broader shipping agency problem.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Thu, 27 August 2020, 17:30:21
Wish I was made aware of the 660 curse sooner  :p
I mean I'm thinking I'll get this keyboard in a few months but this group buy make me uncomfortable at times.

I too was part of the owl660 buy that ended up with the guy running with our money. But needless to say Iíve been following this thread closely.
Owl660 gang!

The curse lives on.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: X_point on Fri, 28 August 2020, 22:07:43
ofcourse I joined the one GB that runs into questionable process.

Chamin king, If you are reading this, at the very least please provide carrier and shipping numbers for the first 20 orders. If you have to spend a day to do, I suggest you do and put everything else regarding the board on hold. That will be a huge confidence booster for anyone who bought the keyboard. If not, it speaks volumes about how to not do CS. Just my 2cents.

/endofrant
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dasdingo on Sat, 29 August 2020, 00:37:58
We should all go to paypal to open a dispute and request refund. This is very suspicious. I was a believer
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:16:47
Unless you're part of the 20 people that were supposed to get their boards early I wouldn't do so.

Despite the rough communication he has shown plenty of pictures showing that the boards are actually in production, and we're not even in September yet (the original estimated shipping date)

You've got 6 months to open a paypal dispute, we're just about halfway there.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sat, 29 August 2020, 08:55:43
I'm not ready to open a dispute yet. There is progress happening but the fact of the matter is he is not running this group buy in manner that bolsters enthusiasm or faith that everything is good, you know? Delays happen. I completely understand that. But there is a veil of ambiguity around this thing that is making all of us uncomfortable.

But they have had a lot of hardship during this process too. He just needs to swoop in and make one good post to get all of us back on track. But instead we get posts of more delays, more problems, and more people asking about the shipping of the first 20 keyboards with no reply from Chanmin. The post from dcdcdc is disconcerting as well.

KKKK.works Korean group Buy has already exploded.
Many users are angry.
To postpone or lie in disguise as an excuse.
Many complaints are pouring out from the Korean community.
However, he has been making excuses for months without solving the problem.

Sounds like they have had the same issues. Delays, problems, with no resolution on Chanmin's part.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Sat, 29 August 2020, 16:48:58
Even if I wanted to file a dispute I don't I could because he put the tracking number of the springs he sent me because I was one of the "lucky" ones that was picked to get the springs early.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sat, 29 August 2020, 19:26:18
That was weird stuff too. Should have just sent it with your keyboard. There maybe could be a way you could dispute it if you got to talk to an actual representative and explained the situation to them with evidence of what was on your invoice and chanmin's post about sending springs to the "lucky" people.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Sat, 29 August 2020, 19:29:38
Didn't seem like it was too tough to send springs and update tracking info.

Not that hard to do it with boards.

Perhaps paypal required shipping info before funds were released.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aloevera on Sat, 29 August 2020, 20:40:34
I'm curious to how many people received springs? Because I received springs although I never received the lottery e-mail notification. I am suspicious because the springs could be be used as a cover to show delivery confirmation, especially if a large amount of people received.

Otherwise, I suggest everyone sit tight, hopefully Chamin will come through, provide clarity and release the shipping #'s of the first 20 boards. Most banks (at least in US and Canada) allow disputes to be opened 90-120 days after expected delivery date.
 
As someone a part of the first 20, I will be giving Chamin another 2-3 weeks to deliver my boards or provide SUFFICIENT clarification and/or shipping #.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Sat, 29 August 2020, 21:13:21
If a large amount of people received the springs WITH tracking info on PayPal I am gonna go crazy because that is super sketchy the "updates" on production and NOW the failures of the production makes this so much sketchier. I regret spending my money on this.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tropea on Sun, 30 August 2020, 09:37:54
What exactly were the springs for? I didnt order any because i assumed they were for switches.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Sun, 30 August 2020, 09:44:39
Quote
We sent DGL Spring first for 13 people out of 660 keyboard orders.
While waiting to receive the keyboard, it was a small secret event that gave some randomly chosen people something to enjoy.

Did you know that we sent those springs to EMS or UPS? We paid about $20 to 40 dollars per person to ship a five-dollar spring to one set.
We sent it to 13 people, and we spent about 600 dollars on this alone.

Chanmin claims the 13 spring packages were sent as a "small secret event" for random people, and apparently it was worth spending 600 to do so.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sun, 30 August 2020, 14:24:57
To waste that kind of money on shipping to people when your supposed to be sending a board to the same people in a few more months is a terrible business strategy.

Spending $600 dollars to ship springs to fraudulently attempt to secure at minimum $3,120 (when you take the base kit cost x 13) would make more sense. That's not including any extras or colors that could have also been paid for.

I always felt weird about him shipping out springs. Didn't make any sense at all because we joined this group buy for the keyboard, not the springs. Any he didn't even really announce it or anything if I remember right. Like people got a tracking number and then they just got springs and they were left wondering what was going on.

This is not how your run a group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 30 August 2020, 17:28:48
If you were sent springs and your original order was marked fulfilled, this would point to him having his funds On Hold with PayPal. PayPal requires courier tracking to update to 'delivered' before they release funds.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sun, 30 August 2020, 17:48:03
If you were sent springs and your original order was marked fulfilled, this would point to him having his funds On Hold with PayPal. PayPal requires courier tracking to update to 'delivered' before they release funds.
So would paypal have released the funds for the 13 people who were sent springs?

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Mon, 31 August 2020, 09:16:40
Yes they would release that money, all the tracking numbers are fulfilled so it should be no problem.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Mon, 31 August 2020, 11:36:51
That's definitely very shady business practice. I'm getting kinda worried
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Mon, 31 August 2020, 11:57:54
30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

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This was pointed out already as highly suspicious, and I agree it's very shady. It points to both releasing funds early and lack of 20 boards in stock as promised.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Mon, 31 August 2020, 12:28:51
That's definitely very shady business practice. I'm getting kinda worried

I'm starting to sweat that's for sure.

30 june 2020

i got some email notification from him that my package was shipped.
but its only the spring for testing.

my question is, if he sent only the spring, why he must upload the shipping number in PP? so he can get the money earlier?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UQhlkut.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rrws9tG.jpg)


This was pointed out already as highly suspicious, and I agree it's very shady. It points to both releasing funds early and lack of 20 boards in stock as promised.

It was pointed out early on. I think there are a lot of people whom this is the first group buy they have joined, myself included, and we wanted to give Chanmin the benefit of the doubt. I hope his next update does some explaining and has some good news for those of you in the first 20.



Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Clay333 on Tue, 01 September 2020, 08:09:49
I am glad I didn't get in on this. I almost did, had the form filled out and everything but decided not to. I really hope it works out and everyone gets a nice board. I have a feeling everything will be fine but it will be severely delayed. I personally don't think the GB runner was trying to screw anyone over by sending the springs except for PayPal. He probably just needed to have the funds released for some working capital to actually start production on the boards. Yes, it's shady but not a direct scam as long as you get the product you were expecting in the end.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 01 September 2020, 08:16:41
Hello, this is an update of the production process.

Currently, we are delayed in responding to inquiries due to lawsuits related to the previous office, claims for damages from the relocation of the office, prior work of the Serarcourt, and other circumstances. I'm sorry, but we'll be done soon and we'll complete the delayed reply.

we are currently in the sandblasting process.

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0hJJFSS/Kakao-Talk-20200901-151139303.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1K0ZHgq/Kakao-Talk-20200901-151139303-01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tc3G0ZD/Kakao-Talk-20200901-151139303-02.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 01 September 2020, 11:48:09
@chanmin

I'm sure most of us appreciate the updates you're giving us. I'm also fairly sure that most of us would appreciate it even more if you could provide tracking information for the early 20 boards that supposedly have been shipped already.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 01 September 2020, 14:03:54
So... youíre just going to ignore all the concerns and comments Chanmin?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Tue, 01 September 2020, 15:58:36
Give the people what they want chanmin. tracking info for the boards that shipped or if they haven't been shipped, an explanation as to what's going on. Im glad to see that boards for those of us later in the group buy are progressing along but you've basically left your initial 20 group buy investors out in the cold.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Thu, 03 September 2020, 07:01:04
These responses are kinda tone deaf. I'm not one of the first 20 but I'd be pretty pissed off that I'm not getting any updates concerning the preorder boards.

If you have time to update on the production, then you should have time to explain what happened with pre-order boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 03 September 2020, 07:10:24
I tend to forget that I am also in this GB
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Chumbee on Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:12:57
Little did most people know. Chanmin is running two GBs at the same time. ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106344.50 )

If you check his replies, he used the same pictures regarding the sandblasting process in both threads. Nothing wrong with that in particular, but given the circumstances, this may affect feelings for some of the investors. Especially those that were part of the "lucky 20" orders.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:43:35
Little did most people know. Chanmin is running two GBs at the same time. ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106344.50 )

If you check his replies, he used the same pictures regarding the sandblasting process in both threads. Nothing wrong with that in particular, but given the circumstances, this may affect feelings for some of the investors. Especially those that were part of the "lucky 20" orders.

Nice observation. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:50:58
Latest update from Discord.


Quote
iabosi Today at 1:02 PM
here we are, still with no explanation
and supposed to believe that boards are just sitting at a shipping agency for over a month


ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS Today at 1:03 PM
No. Please wait a moment. This is before uploading the current contents.
We have collected all of our shipments from the shipping agent and will be sending them all back within the next week. We are currently organizing related content.
There is a sequence of processing. Currently, it is 2am in Korea. The reason I'm still awake is to solve the unprocessed stuff.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Thu, 03 September 2020, 13:58:44
So they sent out the keyboards to be shipped then picked them back up to take them back later? Maybe it had something to do with the flooding that happened or he didn't have the money to pay the shipping so he picked it back up? I honestly am beginning to feel the ambiguity in the updates from this guy may be intentional.

Unless I am just not understanding.
Title: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 03 September 2020, 14:10:50
Edit removed see last post of Chanmin
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 03 September 2020, 14:11:25
Above the mail that I / we received 5 minutes ago.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 03 September 2020, 14:51:57
Hello. There was a lot of delay. After losing our office, our efficiency fell sharply. We were forcibly expelled from the office, but in the process, we have yet to get back about $8,300 in rent and about $27,000 in compensation for damage due to lawsuits. This led us to apply for an additional loan from the bank.

I got an additional loan from the bank for this problem. We finally managed to get an office elsewhere.



The delivery agency did not give us the reason and did not proceed with the delivery we requested. We have made several claims.

But they didn't take care of our work until we finally visited and got all the crates back.

Until then, we were not able to retrieve the keyboard from the shipping agent. Because the warehouse was full of office luggage and the schedule was still very busy.

After we visited yesterday and canceled the contract, all the goods were retrieved.

Now we can work as before and we want to start with urgent shipments right away.
We promise. we will finish sending the first 20 keyboards within next week, which is the most urgent task at the moment.
We will take responsibility for this remark.

Here is our plan.

First, let me tell you about the current schedule.
1. The first 20 keyboards will all be shipped within the next week.

2. For other keyboards, CNC work is done and sandblast postprocessing is currently in progress. Anodizing and cerakote work will begin depending on the option selected.

3. Anodizing proceeds as soon as sandblasting is completed. It handles the same keyboards at the same time, so it can be done relatively quickly compared to Cerakote.

4. Cerakoat is processed sequentially while anodizing is in progress. Cerakoat cannot be worked at the same time, and all work is done by hand, so the entire work period is later than anodizing.

5. We have found that in many Ceracoat applications, the color can be noticeably different in some cases due to the working environment and subtle differences in paint composition.

6. For keyboards that apply for the top case and bottom case in the same color, we will work on this at once. It may be less efficient than finishing all one part, but it will increase the quality.

We promise. I will finish sending the first 20 keyboards within next week, which is the most urgent task at the moment.

We rented a small temporary office a few days ago, and we visited the shipping agency company yesterday to retrieve all the keyboards. It is currently loaded inside the temporary office. September 4th is scheduled to visit the factory for an interim check on Sandblast work and will begin shipping next Monday.

During the production period, there was a test to resume the suspended cerakote work, and the result was a success.

https://youtu.be/-cM1QPxCyT8 (https://youtu.be/-cM1QPxCyT8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYds4vsY/Kakao-Talk-20200903-125857886.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLS7ZgMM/Kakao-Talk-20200903-125857886-01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPH2kmbY/Kakao-Talk-20200903-125857886-02.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BZ7YCk84/Kakao-Talk-20200903-125857886-03.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Thu, 03 September 2020, 15:46:29
Thanks for the update, Chanmin. Sounds like you are having a rough time of it. 2020 has just not been the best year for many out there.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dbjowett on Sat, 05 September 2020, 08:06:46
Still waiting on my soldering iron, but put it together to see how it looks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200905/ce4b1817221ef0b1823e000bf1afb175.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sat, 05 September 2020, 08:27:44
Looks good. I like.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:11:34
Any updates? :)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 09 September 2020, 05:04:10
Three days in the week, time to get some tracking imo.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Wed, 09 September 2020, 05:48:37
Three days in the week, time to get some tracking imo.

Itís mid way to the end of the week promise indeed.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Thu, 10 September 2020, 13:39:18
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNrvh1pZ/Kakao-Talk-20200910-175838282.jpg)

1. All CNC machining is now complete.
2. We will update the detailed schedule for sandblasting and anodizing completion within 12 hours.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Thu, 10 September 2020, 15:46:09
Thanks for the update :)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Fri, 11 September 2020, 11:49:57
(https://i.postimg.cc/020g4pDx/Kakao-Talk-20200911-173936362.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7g9gSYM/Kakao-Talk-20200911-173936362-01.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwYXfs9n/Kakao-Talk-20200911-173936362-02.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5wGb4wM/Kakao-Talk-20200911-173936362-03.jpg)

This is to inform you that Cerakoat work has begun.
In the case of anodizing, the quantity was higher than originally expected, so the factory answered that it would inform this morning (Korean standard). If the exact schedule comes out, we will update it today.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Fri, 11 September 2020, 13:08:49
Chanmin are you going to pretend you didn't promise to ship keyboards this week?

You claimed you picked them up from other shipping agency last week. It's 18 at most, considering 2 already received them. If they indeed exist.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Fri, 11 September 2020, 13:20:24
At this point they are going to ship with the rest of the boards, we see he is putting in the work even if the "early boards" ship this week or next week they will get to you around the date he stated they would get to us by.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Fri, 11 September 2020, 14:16:08
At this point they are going to ship with the rest of the boards, we see he is putting in the work even if the "early boards" ship this week or next week they will get to you around the date he stated they would get to us by.
Chanmin cannot deliver 20 in stock boards he claims exist already.

If I were normal GB participant I would be even more worried.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Fri, 11 September 2020, 17:01:52
At this point they are going to ship with the rest of the boards, we see he is putting in the work even if the "early boards" ship this week or next week they will get to you around the date he stated they would get to us by.
Chanmin cannot deliver 20 in stock boards he claims exist already.

If I were normal GB participant I would be even more worried.

I'm not. If he has lied about anything, I think  it would be the 20 first items not the rest of it
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Fri, 11 September 2020, 17:43:56
At this point they are going to ship with the rest of the boards, we see he is putting in the work even if the "early boards" ship this week or next week they will get to you around the date he stated they would get to us by.
Chanmin cannot deliver 20 in stock boards he claims exist already.

If I were normal GB participant I would be even more worried.

I'm not. If he has lied about anything, I think  it would be the 20 first items not the rest of it

He has been pretty open about everything besides the 20 boards. If it wasn't for the 20 boards no one would be mad.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Fri, 11 September 2020, 18:41:17
I feel bad for the first 20. They have been getting no love. It baffles me how he can make a promise and then omit it in update posts like it's not an issue. If you have bad news for people, tell them, but don't pretend you haven't made promises.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 12 September 2020, 10:15:28
No tracking whatsoever here or in mail. At this moment in time I could just as well have chosen a color or whatever instead of what was available in the first 20.

And yes, imo everything but the first 20 has been communicated good enough. The 20 is a carnage though imo.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:15:50
I am pretty sure everything about the first 20 was all about getting early funds to pay for whatever he wanted to pay for it to get things rolling (I am speculating obviously).
So the failure with the first shipping agency is all a lie or a distraction.

I would never look at any of his future GBís, needless to say.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Kings on Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:21:54
I am pretty sure everything about the first 20 was all about getting early funds to pay for whatever he wanted to pay for it to get things rolling (I am speculating obviously).
So the failure with the first shipping agency is all a lie or a distraction.

I would never look at any of his future GBís, needless to say.

I don't think its speculation. It's pretty obvious that he wanted to get quick funding by offering boards that were "ready to ship" and then attached tracking for springs on some of those orders so the funds would be released. I'm glad I backed out of this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:27:14
I am pretty sure everything about the first 20 was all about getting early funds to pay for whatever he wanted to pay for it to get things rolling (I am speculating obviously).
So the failure with the first shipping agency is all a lie or a distraction.

I would never look at any of his future GB’s, needless to say.

I don't think its speculation. It's pretty obvious that he wanted to get quick funding by offering boards that were "ready to ship" and then attached tracking for springs on some of those orders so the funds would be released. I'm glad I backed out of this GB.

Folks also seeming to ignore this board was not sold exclusively here as GH group buy, and (edit: assuming) production photos are of boards that were not perhaps sold already elsewhere.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:41:50
Yeah, this whole thing is sketchy. I am definitely open to questioning the validity of the update photos. I need to start seeing a newspaper with the date in every picture   :p



I am pretty sure everything about the first 20 was all about getting early funds to pay for whatever he wanted to pay for it to get things rolling (I am speculating obviously).
So the failure with the first shipping agency is all a lie or a distraction.

I would never look at any of his future GBís, needless to say.

I don't think its speculation. It's pretty obvious that he wanted to get quick funding by offering boards that were "ready to ship" and then attached tracking for springs on some of those orders so the funds would be released. I'm glad I backed out of this GB.

It's definitely not speculation. What other reason would there be? And the way he tried to spin it like he was doing everyone who recieved those springs a solid was bull****. If he does not get these boards shipped by next week I'm extremely tempted to open a dispute and get my funds back.

This whole ordeal has been sketchy but if he gets the rest of the first 20 shipped then maybe this thing is legit but being ran in the worst possible way. The more he keeps delaying getting those boards to the first 20 though the more I feel like this dude is trying to pull something on us.

I am on high alert with this Group Buy right now

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Sat, 12 September 2020, 23:35:26
I would no longer trust a single word of whatís being said here until there are valid time stamps of his pictures. Whatís to say these updates are provided using pictures taken in the past. Quite frankly I have written off the 300$ I paid. Never filed a dispute before with PayPal for unsure of how that will work in my favour. Nevertheless I be watching this till the end of September for a shipping notification. If so not see this 660 at my door I am heading to PayPal. On the flip side if we all go to PayPal it might potentially derail this GB since he will not be able to pay his manufacturers or whatever he owes. So we need to get a clear indication from the GB runner with proof we all (20+rest) will get the boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Sun, 13 September 2020, 12:28:13
If you check the image names they do match up with the date he posted them, he could obviously just be changing the name but I don't think he did cause even the older images match up.

Did he **** over the first 20 people? For sure.
Did he fraudulently attempt to get paypal funds send to him before delivery? Most likely.

But despite all that I do think we'll be getting our boards eventually, and thus I hope everyone is willing to hold out on disputes for at least another month as we're nowhere near paypal's dispute deadline yet (180 days). If we all start filling for disputes now this gb will end up being an even bigger mess than it already is :(

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sun, 13 September 2020, 13:26:10
Your right Neveller. It will turn into a nightmare if we start filing disputes this early. I'll hold off until more of us decide its go time.

Chanmin, you aren't doing a damn thing to help yourself. Don't make promises and give yourself deadlines and then refuse to address them when you haven't met the deadlines you yourself put in place.

You know this group buy is in a bad spot though if people are questioning the validity of update photos. That's bad. I hate that's gotten this bad. And I want timestamps in future photos, too.

I'm just.. baffled by how bad this is being run. I think the first 20 promise was an outright lie. The first 20 being shipped out should have been what released the funds from paypal for the rest of the boards to be manufactured. His whole business model of this group buy hinges on getting those first 20 boards shipped. But he hasn't. So it has to have been a lie. That has to be why he shipped the springs. This whole thing has been based on lies.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Aiwanei on Mon, 14 September 2020, 09:33:40
I am one of the first 20, I had emailed two weeks ago saying if I didn't get shipment notification by today, I'd ask for a refund and I have gotten zero response. I'd rather give him the chance to refund before opening a dispute, but I am not going to give him long. I'm tired of being lied to and jerked around as one of the people who were promised their board would ship months ago. I'm sure not if it's negligence or malice, but they have shown a complete lack of care for their customers. Good luck everyone, I hope you get a board someday and enjoy it.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Mon, 14 September 2020, 11:06:26
I am one of the first 20, I had emailed two weeks ago saying if I didn't get shipment notification by today, I'd ask for a refund and I have gotten zero response. I'd rather give him the chance to refund before opening a dispute, but I am not going to give him long. I'm tired of being lied to and jerked around as one of the people who were promised their board would ship months ago. I'm sure not if it's negligence or malice, but they have shown a complete lack of care for their customers. Good luck everyone, I hope you get a board someday and enjoy it.


Either what you said or a choice to choose Colors other than what were offered for the first 20.
Chammin- bear in mind that the first 20 buyers had to make do with the limited color choices you offered. No cerakote options were given to us.

In all it simply leaves me stuck with a color choice that was made over a compromise for quicker delivery.

I would rather have my refund since you have grossly misled people for 2 and half months with the promise of delivering a board that was already available. Does not help one bit when you after reading these strong messages continue to remain silent.

Anyways, I am done ranting for tonight.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chanmin kang on Tue, 15 September 2020, 08:27:53
Sandblast : Beginning September 13th ~ Completed on September 20th

Anodizing :  Beginning September 21st ~ Completed on September 27th (Approximately one week expected.)

Cerakote : September 21st~

QC : 2 Days

Packaging and Sequential Shipment Complete : By October 5


First of all, I apologize for the late delivery schedule.

After we shipped the spring, we tried to find a suitable carrier.

In the case of EMS, there was a lot of loss and return, and we found a shipping agent to replace it.

However, there was a problem with the length of the delivery period and the problem with the delivery agency in Korea.

In the end, we aimed to deliver it safely, even if it took longer.


Initially, only 30 units were going to be sold on the marketplace. (silver, black, red color)

However, due to the large number of requests, we increased the production quantity, and although the period was sufficient at first, the processing and post-processing schedule was delayed due to problems with the delivery company and covid-19.

Currently, we have received the above schedule from the company, and although it was difficult because it was our first time to control a large quantity, we think it will be completed within the schedule written above.

We will do our best to repay you with good quality products.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Tue, 15 September 2020, 08:47:08
However, there was a problem with the length of the delivery period and the problem with the delivery agency in Korea.

You keep saying this but it doesn't actually mean anything.

Also you haven't addressed how you plan on resolving this problem.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: pamorama on Tue, 15 September 2020, 08:48:06
We promise. we will finish sending the first 20 keyboards within next week, which is the most urgent task at the moment.
We will take responsibility for this remark.

First, let me tell you about the current schedule.
1. The first 20 keyboards will all be shipped within the next week.

^ What about this?

There's no mention of the "completed" 20 boards in the update.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Tue, 15 September 2020, 09:34:25
Sandblast : Beginning September 13th ~ Completed on September 20th

Anodizing :  Beginning September 21st ~ Completed on September 27th (Approximately one week expected.)

Cerakote : September 21st~

QC : 2 Days

Packaging and Sequential Shipment Complete : By October 5

What about the 20 boards dude? Can you come clarify WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO SHIP THE 20 BOARDS?
Itís fine if you are shipping them 5th October but say it so.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Tue, 15 September 2020, 12:41:28
Chanmin you really aren't helping yourself.
Outside of the fact that you're straight up ignoring the situation surrounding the first 20 boards, you're also making more short term promises that you probably won't be able to keep.

Reminds me a lot of people in debt. They just stop opening letters and ignore all the problems that are piling up.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Tue, 15 September 2020, 14:16:55
This dude can't deliver on a promise at all. He should have stuck with his target 30 boards instead of taking on this kind of a task and screwing this up so bad.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 15 September 2020, 21:51:52
You can't keep ignoring the problem, no one trusts you Chanmin so why should we trust you with the timeline you have written?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 15 September 2020, 23:54:44
The following list will be sent out in July.

660_0001
660_0003
660_0004
660_0006
660_0007
660_0009
660_0010
660_0011
660_0015
660_0034
660_0039
660_0042
660_0047
660_0054
660_0061
660_0063
660_0073
660_0085
660_0086

This is the order in which the payment was completed first among the ones that can be sent right away in July.
(Two people were excluded from the list above due to a problem with the order.)


We will update you if there is anything new.

Any updates, pictures, etc would be greatly appreciated by all!


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Be patient bro, you're lucky to be in the first batch. It is only 4 days into July. As he stated, he'll give you an update as it comes.

I mean, I'd rather be over-updated then not?

Chanmin said early bird boards would go out July 1st and there hasn't been confirmation of that happening despite seeing finished cases, PCB's and plates in May based on the IC thread. The board was also sold on their website to Korean buyers before the GH GB (https://kkkk.works/gb/?board_name=commerce_product&order_by=fn_product_rank1&order_type=desc&vid=4 (https://kkkk.works/gb/?board_name=commerce_product&order_by=fn_product_rank1&order_type=desc&vid=4)) and gave a delivery time of 2-3 days from purchase - Do we know if anyone in KR has received a board?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/243/640/0bd.png)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Wed, 16 September 2020, 10:13:06
Wonder whatís going with the other TKL GB. At least they didnít have early bird sales 🤣🤣🤣. So everyone there is patiently waiting for their boards to turn up several months later...think we have a meme.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: zomiq on Thu, 17 September 2020, 08:48:24
I was really excited for this keyboard, but all these replies are incredibly worrying. Will keep watching keeping a close eye, if your wondering I've found PayPal are very often in the buyer's favour for disputes especially  if there is no tracking provided and you open the case within 180 days of payment.
Note that I'm not rushing to do that. I really want my red 660!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: beerafffe1 on Fri, 18 September 2020, 10:50:26
I was part of the 20, since it was delayed so much I asked if I could switch to a different color since the quick delivery option was useless now. Was asked to fill out a form, did that and got no confirmation. Sent a few follow up emails(for about 2 weeks now) which went into the void.

At this point, I don't know if I will get a board, and if I do when I will get it and what board/colors I am actually getting. So left with very few options and the top option seems to be trending towards a paypal dispute if I don't get a response in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: 3ambutter on Fri, 18 September 2020, 17:12:08
why haven't you guys charged back already?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Fri, 18 September 2020, 18:00:39
Cause as of what we know now, the boards are in the final stage of production, and will be shipped out early October.
We're also still well within paypal's time limit for disputes.

If it wasn't for the 20 boards they claimed they would ship out just a week or 2 after the GB ended this entire thing would've seemingly gone smoothly.

As for why the 20 early birds haven't issued a refund yet, I dunno  :-\ My guess would be that they just really want a 660 board
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: SwitchKeys on Fri, 18 September 2020, 21:21:07
I wonder how the PayPal dispute would go for the people who have had springs shipped - Getting PayPal to honour a dispute if you wait 3 months after your item is marked delivered could be tricky. It's either ride or die at this point
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Sat, 19 September 2020, 04:39:29
Have the dispute floodgates opened yet?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 19 September 2020, 06:47:43
I have.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sat, 19 September 2020, 09:14:44

 
We promise. we will finish sending the first 20 keyboards within next week, which is the most urgent task at the moment.
We will take responsibility for this remark.

First, let me tell you about the current schedule.
1. The first 20 keyboards will all be shipped within the next week.

^ What about this?

There's no mention of the "completed" 20 boards in the update.

I'm not in the first 20 so I won't be filing a dispute yet but I really don't blame any in the first 20 who haven't received their boards for opening the gates. They have gotten nothing but lies. And it seems like once again, no responsibility is being taken for his unfulfilled promises.

It looks like everything is progressing for us to get the boards but I'm taking it with a grain of salt. It's been constant lies and shadyness this entire group buy. I'm with everyone calling into question the authenticity of these photos.

Chanmin, if you read this, please timestamp future progress pictures for us. Then I'll believe what I'm seeing.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Aiwanei on Sat, 19 September 2020, 11:39:35
Cause as of what we know now, the boards are in the final stage of production, and will be shipped out early October.
We're also still well within paypal's time limit for disputes.

If it wasn't for the 20 boards they claimed they would ship out just a week or 2 after the GB ended this entire thing would've seemingly gone smoothly.

As for why the 20 early birds haven't issued a refund yet, I dunno  :-\ My guess would be that they just really want a 660 board

I've requested a refund, twice, so now I've had to open a PayPal dispute. Gb runner is ignoring emails and has ignored the dispute. Clearly they don't care about the first 20.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Sat, 19 September 2020, 13:43:01
It's pretty clear they just sold the 20 boards they pre-produced locally, I cant think of any other reason why they would just straight up refuse to ship them out.

If Oct 5th comes around and the boards still haven't shipped out nor have we received timestamped pictures and a very good reason for the delay I think everyone including those outside of the first 20 should be issuing disputes with paypal asap.
 

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dcdcdc on Sun, 20 September 2020, 00:49:00
Paypal is preferable when a refund is available.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sun, 20 September 2020, 19:29:53
It's pretty clear they just sold the 20 boards they pre-produced locally, I cant think of any other reason why they would just straight up refuse to ship them out.

If Oct 5th comes around and the boards still haven't shipped out nor have we received timestamped pictures and a very good reason for the delay I think everyone including those outside of the first 20 should be issuing disputes with paypal asap.
 



I'm with you, Neveller. I've had my finger on the trigger, I just needed to know when to squeeze it. Oct. 5th, **** is going down.

God speed fellow groupbuyer members!

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Mon, 21 September 2020, 02:45:23
Sandblast : Beginning September 13th ~ Completed on September 20th

Anodizing :  Beginning September 21st ~ Completed on September 27th (Approximately one week expected.)

Cerakote : September 21st~

QC : 2 Days

Packaging and Sequential Shipment Complete : By October 5


First of all, I apologize for the late delivery schedule.

After we shipped the spring, we tried to find a suitable carrier.

In the case of EMS, there was a lot of loss and return, and we found a shipping agent to replace it.

However, there was a problem with the length of the delivery period and the problem with the delivery agency in Korea.

In the end, we aimed to deliver it safely, even if it took longer.


Initially, only 30 units were going to be sold on the marketplace. (silver, black, red color)

However, due to the large number of requests, we increased the production quantity, and although the period was sufficient at first, the processing and post-processing schedule was delayed due to problems with the delivery company and covid-19.

Currently, we have received the above schedule from the company, and although it was difficult because it was our first time to control a large quantity, we think it will be completed within the schedule written above.

We will do our best to repay you with good quality products.

It's the 21st.

Is sandblasting done? Has Anodizing and Cerakote started?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dasdingo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 13:37:58
I have opened a dispute. I know some of you guys are concerned about if we all get refunded, he wont be able to finish this group buy. But it seems that he is in financial trouble and in debt. What if he applies for bankruptcy and we cannot even collect our money back. (I am not a finance expert). This guy is sus as hell.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: notverriegod on Mon, 21 September 2020, 16:02:13
I have opened a dispute. I know some of you guys are concerned about if we all get refunded, he wont be able to finish this group buy. But it seems that he is in financial trouble and in debt. What if he applies for bankruptcy and we cannot even collect our money back. (I am not a finance expert). This guy is sus as hell.
So iirc if his company files for bankruptcy and he is unable to refund the payment, you should be able to get a refund from paypal through buyer protection if you meet all their criteria.
here's a link to the PayPal protection guideline. https://www.paypal.com/ca/business/security/seller-protection
We all should be protected under the protection unless your account is not in good standing
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Tue, 22 September 2020, 02:41:00
I don't mean to defend Chanmin or anything but I'm seeing some major assumptions being thrown around like him going bankrupt and not being able to finish the GB. Is there any basis for these assumptions or are we just brigading against him now?

Also is there anyone besides the 1st 20 peeps who opened a dispute?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Tue, 22 September 2020, 03:59:36
Extracted from his Discord. The claims of bankruptcy are not unfounded.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
No. Please wait a moment. This is before uploading the current contents.
We have collected all of our shipments from the shipping agent and will be sending them all back within the next week. We are currently organizing related content.
There is a sequence of processing. Currently, it is 2am in Korea. The reason I'm still awake is to solve the unprocessed stuff.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
Yes. I know we are really much late. I am really sorry. There are many reasons, but rather than such excuses, we will try to resolve them quickly.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
The reason we had to take out additional loans is because the trial was delayed due to covid-19. Unfortunately, we can't reveal details of the lawsuit.
But we hired an attorney to do everything we could.'

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
This is a photographic material for claiming damage compensation. Almost all wooden furniture was damaged by flooding. :man_facepalming:
This is an evidence photo for requesting damage compensation. Almost all wooden furniture was damaged by flooding.

+++++++++++++++++++++

I've asked if the production of boards are on track and if they will be produced regardless of the situation above which he has not responded. However he did share pictures on 15 Sep of some boards being produced (which addition questions as to when were this taken).

The whole process is sketchy and many allegations have been thrown.

On balance, yes delays of such nature is pretty common in GBs and particularly so in Covid times. However, his communication of the process with additional issues, and not updating on the initial 20 pieces as communicated in the GB post. To add fuel to this whole issue, he appears to not be in the healthiest of financial situation given (i) trial, (ii) requiring loans for said trial, (iii) damage of his property and (iv) not updating on the source of his working capital in the interim period.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Tue, 22 September 2020, 04:25:46
Makes sense. I'll still give him the benefit of the doubt for a few more days. If he doesn't come in here to clear the air soon, I think the disputes are certainly going to derail the GB if it hasn't derailed already from these other issues.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: dasdingo on Tue, 22 September 2020, 08:30:30
Extracted from his Discord. The claims of bankruptcy are not unfounded.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
No. Please wait a moment. This is before uploading the current contents.
We have collected all of our shipments from the shipping agent and will be sending them all back within the next week. We are currently organizing related content.
There is a sequence of processing. Currently, it is 2am in Korea. The reason I'm still awake is to solve the unprocessed stuff.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
Yes. I know we are really much late. I am really sorry. There are many reasons, but rather than such excuses, we will try to resolve them quickly.

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
The reason we had to take out additional loans is because the trial was delayed due to covid-19. Unfortunately, we can't reveal details of the lawsuit.
But we hired an attorney to do everything we could.'

ㄲㅣㅇㄲㅗㅇWORKS09/04/2020
This is a photographic material for claiming damage compensation. Almost all wooden furniture was damaged by flooding. :man_facepalming:
This is an evidence photo for requesting damage compensation. Almost all wooden furniture was damaged by flooding.

+++++++++++++++++++++

I've asked if the production of boards are on track and if they will be produced regardless of the situation above which he has not responded. However he did share pictures on 15 Sep of some boards being produced (which addition questions as to when were this taken).

The whole process is sketchy and many allegations have been thrown.

On balance, yes delays of such nature is pretty common in GBs and particularly so in Covid times. However, his communication of the process with additional issues, and not updating on the initial 20 pieces as communicated in the GB post. To add fuel to this whole issue, he appears to not be in the healthiest of financial situation given (i) trial, (ii) requiring loans for said trial, (iii) damage of his property and (iv) not updating on the source of his working capital in the interim period.

Thank you, this is exactly why I am meant. Did not realized that I read it on the Discord channel not here. At this point, maybe he will be able to deliver his promises. But based on what we got from his responses and excuses, I only have 30% confidence in him. 

I am also in the HKMB GB, which is also being delayed for at least 2 months. But I am not worried about that one because the GB runner is good at communication and has run GB before.

Meanwhile, we pay $40 for shipping and he cannot even find a way to ship out keyboards. KBDfans ships keyboards with $20 shipping fee and arrives in US in 2 business days.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Tue, 22 September 2020, 09:22:32
Honestly, no replies/concrete updates by EOW, time to file a dispute.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 September 2020, 09:57:19
GB turning into dispute fiesta.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: microCuts on Tue, 22 September 2020, 10:41:06
Seriously what are you guys waiting for..? Just go and file a dispute now when you know the maker playing with his sweet time without a solid clarification. Even he delivers eventually but the almost non-existent communication and ignoring when everyone is questioning is pissing people off. Remember don't beg for something you pay.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 22 September 2020, 12:28:36
Dispute filed, for not receiving the advertised product because I was one of the "lucky" ones to receive the springs LOL. Open the dispute floodgates.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Tue, 22 September 2020, 12:47:39
Dispute filed. Chanmin is about to have a lot of emails. The gates are open!
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 22 September 2020, 12:49:00
Make sure to escalate the dispute to PayPal right away.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Tue, 22 September 2020, 13:08:11
Good call. Escalated as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Chumbee on Tue, 22 September 2020, 13:37:21
Hope all the disputes/escalations go well for those of you who choose to go that route. Let us know how it went afterwards if there's any insights you can give for it to go in our favor.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Neveller on Tue, 22 September 2020, 13:40:36
Sucks to see it go down this way.  :-\
Chanmin is clearly dealing with a whole bunch of issues besides this group buy, doesn't mean hes exempt for all blame, but I do feel for him

Nonetheless I did file a dispute, hope this somehow all ends well
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Bamboo238 on Tue, 22 September 2020, 14:23:07
Wow, feels like this has slowly devolved into a disaster. Such a shame that chamin has been so bad with communication. 
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 September 2020, 15:54:12
I mean, imho, only those among the first 20 should perhaps consider a dispute. It all seems bit weird, the things going on, we can't deny that, but I've seen much worse things in GB's and it's certainly not 6 months yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 22 September 2020, 16:01:18
I mean, imho, only those among the first 20 should perhaps consider a dispute. It all seems bit weird, the things going on, we can't deny that, but I've seen much worse things in GB's and it's certainly not 6 months yet.

I filed a dispute because of the springs he sent, he put them in PayPal as if he sent the keyboard when he could've just sent an email apart giving us the tracking number through there. And I am certainly not confident enough that I will be getting a board soon or at all so yea.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 22 September 2020, 16:37:21
I mean, imho, only those among the first 20 should perhaps consider a dispute. It all seems bit weird, the things going on, we can't deny that, but I've seen much worse things in GB's and it's certainly not 6 months yet.

I filed a dispute because of the springs he sent, he put them in PayPal as if he sent the keyboard when he could've just sent an email apart giving us the tracking number through there. And I am certainly not confident enough that I will be getting a board soon or at all so yea.
Yeah that makes sense.

I mean, to each their own obviously. I do however think that suddenly everybody disputing wonít help the gb come to an end. It will end, but I doubt anyone will get their board.


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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Tree_ on Tue, 22 September 2020, 18:21:41
But after going in on the Owl660 two years ago I'm just not keen on getting scammed again for another 660 layout board from a relatively new maker,   ;D

Man I think it's time to get out of this hobby or stick to in-stock stuff. Fair enough I haven't joined terribly many GB's, but that actually means the percentage of GB's I've joined that have gone south is way above those that I've actually received the end product for. Out of 4 or 5 group buys I've actually gotten what I paid for once, and that was run by Drop.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aloevera on Tue, 22 September 2020, 22:43:16
I am part of the first 20 he has defrauded. I am trying to open a dispute on Paypal but because Chamin has fraudulently claimed I received the product, I am not able to dispute "product not received". Others who went through this process, can you provide guidance?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Tue, 22 September 2020, 23:46:36
I am part of the first 20 he has defrauded. I am trying to open a dispute on Paypal but because Chamin has fraudulently claimed I received the product, I am not able to dispute "product not received". Others who went through this process, can you provide guidance?

You can open a dispute for product not as advertised.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: bullmoos211 on Wed, 23 September 2020, 08:53:15
I've never had to open a dispute this deep into a purchase before. How likely do you all think PayPal is to honour the dispute? Asking because I honestly don't know what to expect.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aloevera on Wed, 23 September 2020, 09:13:11
I am part of the first 20 he has defrauded. I am trying to open a dispute on Paypal but because Chamin has fraudulently claimed I received the product, I am not able to dispute "product not received". Others who went through this process, can you provide guidance?

You can open a dispute for product not as advertised.

My only option is "suspicious activity"
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Wed, 23 September 2020, 23:37:01
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Thu, 24 September 2020, 00:51:48
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG

He disappeared instead :0
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Thu, 24 September 2020, 11:12:34
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG

He disappeared instead :0

LMAO. Ya'll killing me.

Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Thu, 24 September 2020, 13:13:45
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG

He disappeared instead :0

LMAO. Ya'll killing me.

For real though if I had lots of people opening disputes and stuff I would go out and say something but we haven't got anything in over a week smh
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Contrakey on Thu, 24 September 2020, 15:07:39
Love keyboards that have little lines of keys and are separate from everything else. Gives them so much potential for color combos.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: X_point on Thu, 24 September 2020, 15:15:38
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG

He disappeared instead :0

LMAO. Ya'll killing me.

For real though if I had lots of people opening disputes and stuff I would go out and say something but we haven't got anything in over a week smh

What about ppl who were not in the first 20..? How do we open a dispute? On what grounds? I had an uneasy feeling going into this GB, but I convinced myself otherwise.. what a shame.. wouldíve been a decent keyboard if made
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: h40 on Thu, 24 September 2020, 15:18:31
Maybe if we say his name enough times he'll magically appear, like a genie!


CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG
CHANMIN KANG

He disappeared instead :0

LMAO. Ya'll killing me.

For real though if I had lots of people opening disputes and stuff I would go out and say something but we haven't got anything in over a week smh

What about ppl who were not in the first 20..? How do we open a dispute? On what grounds? I had an uneasy feeling going into this GB, but I convinced myself otherwise.. what a shame.. wouldíve been a decent keyboard if made
I don't see enough reason to submit a dispute if you were not sent springs unexpectedly or part of first 20...yet
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: chriszhu on Thu, 24 September 2020, 15:50:54
Part of the first 20 but did not receive any springs, opened dispute as well like the others.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Thu, 24 September 2020, 16:04:03
Paypal seems to be allowing 180 days after a dispute rather than their typical 90. You don't have to file a dispute this week, or even within the next month. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but it can wait.

From Paypal:
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The spread of COVID-19 virus and the ongoing efforts to contain it has significantly impacted commerce across the world. PayPal recognizes there is a potential for delayed shipments and increased shipping timeframes, globally. We appreciate your patience during this time and recommend that you communicate directly with your seller to discuss options around your purchase and shipment prior to filing a claim. You’ll have 180 days from the date of your transaction to file a PayPal Purchase Protection claim.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: jsykm on Thu, 24 September 2020, 17:35:53
I don't see enough reason to submit a dispute if you were not sent springs unexpectedly or part of first 20...yet

I beg to differ. I think the springs just give the first 20 people more of a reason to start a dispute. I really don't mind waiting as I've stayed relatively quiet for the past few months, but I've lost my confidence in Chanmin's ability to deliver.

I hate to sound like a broken broken record, but I find the lack of communication + all the lies pretty baffling.

Too many things don't add up.... He claims the cerakote work was started on his post from 9/11/2020, but how do we know the picture he posted isn't of the keyboard he used for the sound test video in the original post? Plus why would he waste money on adding the cerakote finish on one set as I'm sure there was probably more than one order with blue cerakote.

There's no reason to lie. All of us here are reasonable people and can understand delays as long as they are communicated well.

Granted, we're all in this together and I hope everything turns out okay (whether people get their keyboard or the refund they requested).
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: frostfiree on Thu, 24 September 2020, 18:53:38
I don't see enough reason to submit a dispute if you were not sent springs unexpectedly or part of first 20...yet

I beg to differ. I think the springs just give the first 20 people more of a reason to start a dispute. I really don't mind waiting as I've stayed relatively quiet for the past few months, but I've lost my confidence in Chanmin's ability to deliver.

I hate to sound like a broken broken record, but I find the lack of communication + all the lies pretty baffling.

Too many things don't add up.... He claims the cerakote work was started on his post from 9/11/2020, but how do we know the picture he posted isn't of the keyboard he used for the sound test video in the original post? Plus why would he waste money on adding the cerakote finish on one set as I'm sure there was probably more than one order with blue cerakote.

There's no reason to lie. All of us here are reasonable people and can understand delays as long as they are communicated well.

Granted, we're all in this together and I hope everything turns out okay (whether people get their keyboard or the refund they requested).

I think you read his statement wrong. He meant that unless you were part of the first 20 or were sent the unexpected springs, then you should not start a dispute just yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: jsykm on Thu, 24 September 2020, 18:57:45
I don't see enough reason to submit a dispute if you were not sent springs unexpectedly or part of first 20...yet

I beg to differ. I think the springs just give the first 20 people more of a reason to start a dispute. I really don't mind waiting as I've stayed relatively quiet for the past few months, but I've lost my confidence in Chanmin's ability to deliver.

I hate to sound like a broken broken record, but I find the lack of communication + all the lies pretty baffling.

Too many things don't add up.... He claims the cerakote work was started on his post from 9/11/2020, but how do we know the picture he posted isn't of the keyboard he used for the sound test video in the original post? Plus why would he waste money on adding the cerakote finish on one set as I'm sure there was probably more than one order with blue cerakote.

There's no reason to lie. All of us here are reasonable people and can understand delays as long as they are communicated well.

Granted, we're all in this together and I hope everything turns out okay (whether people get their keyboard or the refund they requested).

I think you read his statement wrong. He meant that unless you were part of the first 20 or were sent the unexpected springs, then you should not start a dispute just yet.

Yes, and I'm saying it's perfectly reasonable to start a dispute now regardless of whether or not you're one of the first 20 orders.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Fri, 25 September 2020, 04:02:41
I was gonna wait, but then I read through the Owl 660 GB and nah, bro. I opened a dispute now, and will wait till the escalation deadline to escalate.

During that time I will send as many e-mails as I need to to get a response from Chanmin who is MIA during a critical time that REQUIRES HIM TO BE HERE.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 25 September 2020, 04:31:52
If I were not in the first 20, I would -not- have disputed yet.
I mean, all things considering, we're not even 4 months into the groupbuy... It's really not that long.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Fri, 25 September 2020, 09:01:21
I realize that I am, in some people's eyes, pulling the trigger early by filing now. I'm not in the first 20. But I really feel everyone here, first 20 or not, has every right to file now. This dude has made promises over and over and not fulfilled them and been radio silent for periods far longer than he should have while we are all left scratching our heads wondering what is going on. He has fraudulently and deceptively obtained money held by paypal. Granted, he didn't send me springs, but quite frankly I really don't like a dude doing business like that and not disclosing it with us. How would everyone have felt if he made a post requesting permission to send some springs to some people and enter tracking to get access to some of the funds in order to pay for what ever it was that needed to be done? I honestly would have been fine, because of the transparency of it. But no, he pretended like those people who got springs were lucky. Deceit. And that doesn't sit well with me.

It's been 10 days since he last gave an update and with everything going on here you would think he would have something to say to us, but no.

radio silence.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 25 September 2020, 09:24:25
I was gonna wait, but then I read through the Owl 660 GB and nah, bro. I opened a dispute now, and will wait till the escalation deadline to escalate.

During that time I will send as many e-mails as I need to to get a response from Chanmin who is MIA during a critical time that REQUIRES HIM TO BE HERE.

I was part of that gb. Not sure why 660 boards seem to be cursed. Iím glad I got into the volcano buy.

You have every right to a dispute to get your money back if you donít feel the gb runner is not doing a good job communicating the status of the boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Noveltty on Sun, 27 September 2020, 09:16:23
I write for the buyers

in Korean, MR.Kang aka kkingkkong is famous for being a LIAR.

He often broke his promises and had frequent delays.

So, Koreans never believe him currently.


RAINY SEASON? LIE.

It is true that Korea is in the rainy season, but there are few days when it actually rains.

There wasn't much rain to delay.

IN FACT, it is just laziness.


I was a buyer of his kbd, and I had been disappointed a lot with his lies.



believe me now?
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 27 September 2020, 13:56:37
All 66% are cursed.

I'll just make my own
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Sun, 27 September 2020, 16:18:07
Chanmin straight up disappeared lol
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: aprades96 on Sun, 27 September 2020, 17:41:44
I think I'll wait 'til October 30th, after that day I'll will dispute to get my money back.

Can't understand how Chanmin isn't responding.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: 3ambutter on Sun, 27 September 2020, 19:24:25
Chanmin straight up disappeared lol

What do you mean disappeared? He just posted in his other GB thread, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106344.50

This was literally 4 hours ago. He's just straight up ignoring you guys

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Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Awayhugepickle on Sun, 27 September 2020, 19:42:02
He just posted a picture and didn't even address the question that was left for him in his thread.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: lovidore on Mon, 28 September 2020, 03:50:23
I feel so much better about opening my dispute now.
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: Winster on Mon, 28 September 2020, 11:47:31
All 66% are cursed.

I'll just make my own

Even that will be cursed. ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KKINGKKONG 660 Keyboard | closed
Post by: josemannyadame on Mon, 28 September 2020, 13:17:33
Chanmin straight up disappeared lol

What do you mean disappeared? He just posted in his other GB thread, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106344.50

This was literally 4 hours ago. He's just straight up ignoring you guys

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How is that funny? A lot of us have ALOT of unanswered questions and the fact that he is straight up ignoring us is quite dumb as he is running this GB in the worst way possible. If you think a picture with no context is a useful "update/post" then go ahead lol