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Title: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Wed, 01 July 2020, 12:25:22
Hi everyone! Introducing the first keyboard from Kazoos & Co. - a top mount 60% take on the classic IBM Model F, called the Modern F.

(https://i.imgur.com/1f97Od8.png)

INTEREST CHECK LINK | https://forms.gle/SNyGTtX84hn26vgE8 (https://forms.gle/SNyGTtX84hn26vgE8)

IMGUR LINK | https://imgur.com/a/RdywZkI (https://imgur.com/a/RdywZkI)

The Modern F is a case made out 6061 aluminum and C260 Brass. Weighing in at 8.3lbs unbuilt (what a beast!). Anodizing options are for IBM Off White, Industrial Gray, and Clear Anodizing.

I plan to support ANSI, ISO, and DZ60 layouts in my plates, but any other layout feedback would be appreciated.

Plan to sell for ~$300, give or take $50 depending on the interest.

I shall be printing a prototype while I get the badge, the weight, and the plate CNC'd, and will post another update then. After that plans are to get the full aluminum prototype milled and shipped, then another update to follow. Updates on production will be on this thread, Reddit (http://"https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/hhitca/ic_modern_f_60_case/") and Instagram (http://"https://www.instagram.com/kazoosco/").

(https://i.imgur.com/XwFc62T.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eR16Vb0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/lQwYdsb.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ea2pESA.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Wqlx1JD.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fFaqvOf.png)

Since the Reddit IC, I have changed a few things, added a sloped 5 degree incline to the back, moved my Kazoos & Co. logo to the newly added weight, and created a new Modern F badge for the front.

Any feedback on the newest changes or future changes will be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Wed, 01 July 2020, 12:36:50
I like! Definitely interested.


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Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: ♾Ḋḯṩⱥṩẗḝṟ on Wed, 01 July 2020, 12:51:34
Good looking design, filled the IC form ;)
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Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Wed, 01 July 2020, 12:57:38
Good looking design, filled the IC form ;)
Imgur link isn't working...

Thanks for the heads up, just updated the link. Should work now.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: mydens on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:09:04
waiting for tkl
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: PantoneC on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:17:22
Is this case top mount? and also like to ask is the base wide enough that it won't tip sideway when typing? Looking forward to more photos
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:29:47
Is this case top mount? and also like to ask is the base wide enough that it won't tip sideway when typing? Looking forward to more photos

Yeah the case is top mount, so the plate screws into the top housing.

I think that the weight of the keyboard should keep it from tipping over while typing, but that's why I'm making a 3D printed, then aluminum prototypes before I start the group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:45:03
looks pretty solid, though it's a bit hard to tell what is on the front badge. also, the mounting points look like they'll make esc/backspace/spacebar feel pretty stiff (in theory, at least), and is there any fillet on the switch cutouts? all look totally square from the renders.

as far as plate support, i'd strongly consider stepped capslock, split right shift, and split backspace. and i'd personally go for fixed wkl bottom row, but that's just my preference  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:46:31
looks pretty solid, though it's a bit hard to tell what is on the front badge. also, the mounting points look like they'll make esc/backspace/spacebar feel pretty stiff (in theory, at least), and is there any fillet on the switch cutouts? all look totally square from the renders.

as far as plate support, i'd strongly consider stepped capslock, split right shift, and split backspace. and i'd personally go for fixed wkl bottom row, but that's just my preference  ;D

There isn't any fillet on the switch cutouts, but that's a great idea. Thanks mate!
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: piercejenkins on Wed, 01 July 2020, 15:15:29
Iím in!!!! Plate option for 75 key orthos would be great. (http://)
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:08:07
I am 100% in for this! I've been looking for a board exactly like this for years!

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Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: Gepriester on Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:40:29
This looks great! I love the vintage aesthetics. The bottom looks a bit weird with the narrow stance of the feet, but it might just be the renders.
Pls inlclude ISO <3
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: Axariel on Wed, 01 July 2020, 20:00:43
I liked the OG badge, but I think this is looking pretty classy RN.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Wed, 01 July 2020, 22:38:09
I liked the OG badge, but I think this is looking pretty classy RN.

Thanks! Yeah personally I'm leaning towards the new badge, but I need to find a way for it to show better in renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Wed, 01 July 2020, 23:27:57
Something I thought about after submitting the IC form:

Some of the renders make the IBM off-white look pearlescent, and that seems to go well with the brass / copper of the badge and plate. I have no idea whether that can be achieved with anodising, electrophoretic deposition or Cerakoting.

But if you feel like it, maybe investigate it?

Also, I was kind of torn. I liked the industrial gray, but few keyboards have clear anodising showing the aluminium. That would be special.

But then again, it might end up looking more industrial that what you aimed for. Maybe it would only be suited to something like a Fat Boy or HMKB, thatís intentionally industrial-looking.


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Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Thu, 02 July 2020, 01:47:06
Something I thought about after submitting the IC form:

Some of the renders make the IBM off-white look pearlescent, and that seems to go well with the brass / copper of the badge and plate. I have no idea whether that can be achieved with anodising, electrophoretic deposition or Cerakoting.

But if you feel like it, maybe investigate it?

Also, I was kind of torn. I liked the industrial gray, but few keyboards have clear anodising showing the aluminium. That would be special.

But then again, it might end up looking more industrial that what you aimed for. Maybe it would only be suited to something like a Fat Boy or HMKB, thatís intentionally industrial-looking.


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Yeah definitely something I'm looking into - whether or not the Off White will come off well, and that's why I'm going to get prototypes and evaluate from there. Off White would definitely be something I would like to offer, but if doesn't match well I'm probably looking elsewhere.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 02 July 2020, 10:08:23
Yeah definitely something I'm looking into - whether or not the Off White will come off well, and that's why I'm going to get prototypes and evaluate from there. Off White would definitely be something I would like to offer, but if doesn't match well I'm probably looking elsewhere.

To clarify, my preference would be for some pearlescent metallic colour rather than the old off-white colour of IBM and other PCs from the early 90s. If that can't be pulled off, I'd prefer the industrial gray together with brass plate/sign.

But you're the designer, and this is supposed to be a retro design, so your call.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:12:47
Yeah definitely something I'm looking into - whether or not the Off White will come off well, and that's why I'm going to get prototypes and evaluate from there. Off White would definitely be something I would like to offer, but if doesn't match well I'm probably looking elsewhere.

To clarify, my preference would be for some pearlescent metallic colour rather than the old off-white colour of IBM and other PCs from the early 90s. If that can't be pulled off, I'd prefer the industrial gray together with brass plate/sign.

But you're the designer, and this is supposed to be a retro design, so your call.

Yeah I think my intention for the off white is be a matte finish like the original, but Fusion is a bit tricky when it comes to color reproduction and finish. I still need to learn more about how to show my renders in the best lighting and such.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: parablol on Thu, 02 July 2020, 13:29:37
Iím in!!!! Plate option for 75 key orthos would be great.
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I'm also interested if I can cut a plate to make it work with an XD75 or Boardwalk PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: kazoosco on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:43:53
Iím in!!!! Plate option for 75 key orthos would be great.
Show Image
(http://)

I'm also interested if I can cut a plate to make it work with an XD75 or Boardwalk PCB.

When running the group buy, I plan to release the plate as Open Source so that people can make their own plates. I have realized that I'm not going to be able to support all the layouts that people are requesting, so I hope releasing the files will bring more attention to it.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: gnho on Sun, 16 August 2020, 22:31:36
Is it possible to make the top badge optional?
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sun, 16 August 2020, 22:41:22
the board looks great but can you please clarify the following:

- does the case support standard 60% PCB (such as Dz60 and AN-C 60)?
- does the plate support tsangan layout?
- are there other materials available for the bottom "feets" such as rubber or silicone?
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 18 August 2020, 05:28:16
I love typing on my CA66 and I would be interested in this keyboard.  ISO is a must so thank you for that.  I will be watching.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: bsf on Fri, 28 August 2020, 13:37:11
The top looks amazing, but the narrowness of the base looks a bit awkward and unstable. I think a chamfered edge around the typing area would be beneficial as well. Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: parablol on Thu, 03 September 2020, 08:18:45
Iím in!!!! Plate option for 75 key orthos would be great.
Show Image
(http://)

I'm also interested if I can cut a plate to make it work with an XD75 or Boardwalk PCB.

When running the group buy, I plan to release the plate as Open Source so that people can make their own plates. I have realized that I'm not going to be able to support all the layouts that people are requesting, so I hope releasing the files will bring more attention to it.
This is great news. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 14 September 2020, 13:24:56
Unrealistic question; when will these go into GB phase (Any estimate is fine)?
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: SlipperyPeteED on Fri, 18 September 2020, 23:39:08
mmmmm me likey so sexy
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: OsciX on Fri, 18 September 2020, 23:41:08
+1 on the sexxy. call me a bogey cause im in for 3
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: Ustinj on Sat, 19 September 2020, 02:49:54
Any chances of blockers? I like this, it reminds me of the CA66 - except I don't want a 65%, so :)
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: paperassgasket on Sat, 19 September 2020, 10:32:11
Personally I enjoy a higher typing angle. I prefer wristbreaker height but 5 degrees is practically flat. A 6-8% seems to be the sweet spot for most people though. Maybe a couple of extra holes on the underside to allow you to insert some feet to raise the back up? Threaded holes would be great so you can screw in feet and raise or lower them as you like.

I like the pen rail but would you consider flipping the scoop to the top or making it scooped on both sides?

Plate is nice and DZ60 support is a pretty safe bet.
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sun, 20 September 2020, 08:56:39
Would kill for this supporting alps!
Title: Re: [IC] Modern F | Top Mount 60% Case
Post by: oscarcharliezulu on Mon, 21 September 2020, 18:50:14
Reminds me of the Oric-1 z80 micro built in the 80's.[attachimg=1]