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Title: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 05:53:09
Hey everyone!

Welcome to the long-awaited interest check for Vertigo, our latest project! Some of you may have seen teasers on our Instagram, but we're finally ready to reveal the full details!

(https://i.imgur.com/61oRmMm.jpg)

Vertigo is a seamless, screwless, gasket-mounted 65% with symmetrical bottom row blockers.

(https://i.imgur.com/1bAaxJW.jpg)

There will be two editions offered for this board, the standard edition and a special edition.

(https://i.imgur.com/lUDutO3.jpg)

The layouts offered are as shown (please note that only ANSI plates will be offered at GB, with ISO plate files being available on our website).

(https://i.imgur.com/cQGavmO.png)

Standard Edition Features:
   -Byzantine Purple or Charcoal Grey aluminum shell piece (see renders for more info on colors)
   -E-white aluminum base piece
   -E-white aluminum full plate
   -Custom ek65 PCB (QMK/VIA compatible) with daughterboard
   -Custom hard carrying case
   -Custom injection-molded rubber bumpons
   -Price: TBA

Special Edition Features
   -E-white aluminum shell piece
   -Sandblasted copper base piece
   -Copper full plate
   -Custom ek65 PCB (QMK/VIA compatible) with daughterboard
   -Custom hard carrying case
   -Custom injection-molded rubber bumpons
   -Price: TBA

Group Buy Information:
Group buy will happen through our website, eniigmakeyboards.com (https://eniigmakeyboards.com/)
We will decide the method of GB later on, please let us know your feedback in the comments
Quantities TBD for all variants
Group buy begins in Q4 2020 (after Infinitum is 100% complete)

Smooth Curves

(https://i.imgur.com/LCmPAE4.jpg)

Vertigo features smooth curves all around. All four of its sides are sculpted upwards, giving it a thin upper bezel, but also leaving enough room on the inside for its complex internals.
The back piece of Vertigo is an elegant curve that loops around the sides of the board, in a singular flush motion. 

(https://i.imgur.com/Q3jC9ce.jpg)

Screwless Bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/vCr7uJb.jpg)

From a designers’ perspective, the screwless bottom on Vertigo is arguably the most exciting part of this board. The PCB and plate are designed to allow for the screws to slot in through the plate.
The screw itself is split resting between the two different halves of the cases, which not only allows an even weight distribution, but makes this whole system possible by not interfering with the switches.

(https://i.imgur.com/nHW6zFC.jpg)

Please join our Discord server (https://eniigmakeyboards.com/discord) for the quickest updates, and to further discuss this board. Note that you will need to join the Discord server to be eligible for the sale!

(https://i.imgur.com/FoCw7JR.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Q5hST9i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5bpYKfz.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/XvMx7o1.jpg)

We have prototypes in-hand, and they will be built by various streamers. Stay tuned for updates regarding those builds.

To see the full prototype album, click this link (https://imgur.com/a/jGozvYx).

(https://i.imgur.com/GzqSMRP.jpg)

Please note that none of the details here are final, and are subject to change at any time.

Huge thank you to: bisoromi (https://www.instagram.com/bisoromi_/?hl=en) for helping us figure out how to achieve the screwless bottom, Maschine (https://www.instagram.com/geistmaschine/?hl=en) for teaching us how to render, Lbaron (https://www.instagram.com/smith_rune/?hl=en) for helping us with plate analysis, and everyone in our Discord server (https://eniigmakeyboards.com/discord) for all the encouragement!

Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 05:54:09
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: tofugraphy on Mon, 21 September 2020, 05:55:02
First!!
Been following Vertigo for awhile now, cant wait for the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: proelio on Mon, 21 September 2020, 05:55:36
Looks good. I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: bananathock on Mon, 21 September 2020, 06:12:57
not really first but i appreciate the fastest commenters in the west or east; non-discriminatory of gender and race. I support! Hi Eniigma, hows it going?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: jAngeles on Mon, 21 September 2020, 07:23:07
coolio!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: MoonOperator on Mon, 21 September 2020, 08:12:28
I’d buy a 65% WKL in a heart beat. Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: kabocha on Mon, 21 September 2020, 09:16:25
Sign me up!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: 3yatt on Mon, 21 September 2020, 09:27:10
Yeppers
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Macmutant on Mon, 21 September 2020, 09:28:32
Looks great. I'm interested. Can you please share what type of protection will be included to prevent ESD damage?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: z19z on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:00:27
Really looking forward to this GB! Hopefully, I'll be able to get an SE  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:02:42
personally am not a fan of the layout, but I have been watching this board for the past few months and it's one of my favorite designs :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: mikeyboyy on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:03:39
Looks great. Is it possible to increase the bezel on all sides?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:19:29
Fffff this is hot


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Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: ilikerustoo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:23:28
Is there a picture or render of the plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: gautema on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:30:36
Looks fantastic. Is it possible to get some more info on how the gasket works? Is it a o-ring style gasket?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: aiwa501 on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:31:27
I'm in 100%
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:32:50
Looks fantastic. Is it possible to get some more info on how the gasket works? Is it a o-ring style gasket?
I will add some more info, but it is mounted using 13 3mm poron foam strips. So no, it is not an o-ring style gasket.

Is there a picture or render of the plate?
I will add one tonight, thanks.

Looks great. Is it possible to increase the bezel on all sides?
If enough people request it, we can look into it, but keeping the top bezels slim was a goal for us.

Looks great. I'm interested. Can you please share what type of protection will be included to prevent ESD damage?
The ESD is all on the USB lines, which is handled by the daughterboard. You can see the unified daughterboard repository (https://github.com/ai03-2725/Unified-Daughterboard) for more info.

Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: paperassgasket on Mon, 21 September 2020, 10:59:39
That byzantine purple looks fantastic with the white bottom.

I definitely appreciate the ESD protection.
One of the finer touches I like is those thick headed torx plate mount screws. Very nice touch.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: ProlificPanda on Mon, 21 September 2020, 11:08:44
Why no shots of the full board in the prototype album? Also, does the back and top of the side profile not count as a seam? (I know that might be a little nit-picky ;) )
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 11:21:34
Why no shots of the full board in the prototype album? Also, does the back and top of the side profile not count as a seam? (I know that might be a little nit-picky ;) )
We will take some more shots of the full board, and add them to the album.

And no, seamed boards usually consist of a 2-part construction, and a board like this is considered seamless.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 21 September 2020, 11:28:06
interested!!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: A.Belousov on Mon, 21 September 2020, 13:21:44
Please make it unlimited buy. I'm in for wkl if price is good
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: GMK83 on Mon, 21 September 2020, 13:31:27
I have been following this for sometime.  So clean!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 14:25:19
gasket 65%

(https://www.verblio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/zoolander-blogmutt-so-hot-right-now.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 15:48:51
Please make it unlimited buy. I'm in for wkl if price is good
Sadly, we won't be doing unlimited because we don't think we'd be able to handle the demand.

Also, I wanted to add something - many have pointed out the similarities between this and Keycult boards, and we've gotten the OK by the Keycult team to run this design.

Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: ProlificPanda on Mon, 21 September 2020, 16:16:33
And no, seamed boards usually consist of a 2-part construction, and a board like this is considered seamless.

So, you're saying that the accent on the back of the board is not a second piece?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 16:31:15
And no, seamed boards usually consist of a 2-part construction, and a board like this is considered seamless.

So, you're saying that the accent on the back of the board is not a second piece?

The original statement was phrased badly - my apologies for that. It's difficult to pinpoint a specific definition for "seamless" but in general, in comparison to other accepted "seamless" boards, Vertigo has a similar construction.

Infinitum, for example, is NOT a seamless board, as it consists of a top piece and a bottom piece, both of which are visible on all sides. There are two primary pieces to this board - a shell piece, and a base piece. The base piece (or accent piece) is only visible from the bottom and the rear of the keyboard (and the small peek on the sides). 



Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: lan_lach on Mon, 21 September 2020, 17:00:29
Very interested. Do you have a ball park on price?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: immaphantomlol on Mon, 21 September 2020, 17:12:44
Yes finally!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 19:45:27
Very interested. Do you have a ball park on price?

Not yet, but it will definitely be below Infinitum. The curves and screw mounting points are expensive to machine, however, so I would keep that in mind.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 20:07:26
Here's the picture of the plate for whoever was asking.

(https://i.imgur.com/yegtoYg.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: gbenz on Mon, 21 September 2020, 20:38:54
I love the curves on this. Wish you would be able to offer a WK layout but I understand if you can't. Perhaps in the future?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: fritte on Mon, 21 September 2020, 21:13:04
Amazing design, looks really beautiful and sleek. I'm sad there's not more color options though (even though the purple does look nice). Would have loved to see a deep blue.  ;)

What's the typing angle? When can we expect more information about pricing and production quantity?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Mon, 21 September 2020, 22:00:43
I love the curves on this. Wish you would be able to offer a WK layout but I understand if you can't. Perhaps in the future?
For this buy, we won't be offering a WK top (and the PCB doesn't even support it). We may look into it in the future but it is overall unlikely due to the fact that the rear curve was designed with symmetrical blockers in mind.

Amazing design, looks really beautiful and sleek. I'm sad there's not more color options though (even though the purple does look nice). Would have loved to see a deep blue.  ;)

What's the typing angle? When can we expect more information about pricing and production quantity?
The typing angle is 6.5 degrees. More information about pricing and production quantity will be revealed after the completion of Infinitum, and closer to the GB date.

Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Dorbii on Tue, 22 September 2020, 00:33:34
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Space_Case88 on Tue, 22 September 2020, 02:28:23
mmmmmmmm.... this looks so pretty!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: binepad on Tue, 22 September 2020, 02:48:10
Wow it looks amazing
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Tue, 22 September 2020, 06:15:38
Do we have a price range for this?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: raz0r54 on Tue, 22 September 2020, 07:13:54
really like the simplicity
will the GB have vendors?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 22 September 2020, 07:20:06
Support for ISO Enter but not for ISO split left Shift and ISO key next to Enter?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 22 September 2020, 14:50:55
really like the simplicity
will the GB have vendors?
We will be hosting the group buy on our website.

Do we have a price range for this?
Not yet, more details to come soon.

Support for ISO Enter but not for ISO split left Shift and ISO key next to Enter?
We are currently looking into adding the ISO split left shift, and the ISO key next to enter is actually there on the PCB, but was accidentally not added to the layouts sheet.

Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Zaum.Tech on Wed, 23 September 2020, 09:05:58
A beauty, great render work too, same goes for IG.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: socalmitch on Wed, 23 September 2020, 12:09:23
Great looking design.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 23 September 2020, 14:11:43
Not for me because I prefer having win key, but I have to complement the design! Best of luck with this!
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Pulsing Penguin on Wed, 23 September 2020, 23:57:44
defo interested :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: mgdufoe on Sun, 27 September 2020, 16:56:39
Interested. This is clean.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: ookey on Sun, 27 September 2020, 17:01:18
damn screwless looks so clean, gl with the project :)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Ramen Champ on Sun, 27 September 2020, 18:02:11
Great design. Love the curves.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Kohsta on Fri, 02 October 2020, 11:45:39
This is lovely.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: Suavity on Fri, 02 October 2020, 12:06:50
Any considerations for a split space bar design for future runs?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: L8T on Fri, 02 October 2020, 12:50:24
Love the design but i'm very scared of what the pricing will look like, even more so because your tkl was super expensive for a fairly simple design.
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard
Post by: eniigma on Wed, 07 October 2020, 13:42:11
Any considerations for a split space bar design for future runs?
We will definitely consider it, but it is unlikely, considering it breaks the symmetrical nature of the board.

Also, here is the requested, top-down shot of the purple Vertigo prototype.
(https://i.imgur.com/A4ZJUKq.jpg?1)

The second prototype (in grey) also arrived last week. Here are some pictures of it.
(https://i.imgur.com/TeccpOD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/FJUE4AD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5DAAAzS.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/LQmSbxG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oxDzLF2.jpg?1)

Here are some pictures of the plates and PCBs.
(https://i.imgur.com/WHfQ4p8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/9THGAYt.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/OKNmnbv.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/DG7U6Wm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vPeFTai.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/cPExbV6.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: aadk5 on Wed, 07 October 2020, 13:47:31
Oh baby
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 07 October 2020, 14:04:53
Very nice on the purple shade digging that immensely
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: Ahngel on Wed, 07 October 2020, 14:56:46
That color looks good, i like the contrast on the seam
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: PleasantChaos on Thu, 22 October 2020, 04:13:21
I'm curious to see how you plan to handle possible qc issues.
Will I get a free replacement, that I can then sell/trade on mechmarket?
Title: Re: [IC] Vertigo - a seamless, screwless, gasket-mouned 65% keyboard | Update 10/7
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 22 October 2020, 05:33:35
I'm curious to see how you plan to handle possible qc issues.
Will I get a free replacement, that I can then sell/trade on mechmarket?
Oof


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