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Title: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: SwitchKeys on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:09:41
WELCOME TO:
(https://i.imgur.com/mR3qvH3.png)


TOTALLY BODACIOUS IDEA BRO
Right on man! The 80s were huge for me. Firstly, I was born in the 80s, and thanks to my older siblings I grew up playing the 1986 Sega classic and love everything about the Retrowave iconography. Thus, GMK Retrowave was born.This is unashamedly out there 80s. Bright, fluorescent colours. Unmistakable retrowave novelties and ultimately a bit of fun! Excellent.

Now, to set the scene:
Its 1987. Youve just come off Venice beach on a hot July afternoon as the sun is setting. But your day has only just begun. You run to the arcade. You grab a cola, your quarters and head to your favourite seat. You strap in, load your coins, hands on the wheel and wait. 3.2.1. DRIVE.
You pass each car with ease, changing the station on the radio as you note the time left on your clock. You speed up level by level as day turns to night but youre not slowing down. You look out beyond the cyan palm trees, towards the jagged hills as their glow increases and you begin to dream. Its just you, your F40 and a never ending road, driving towards that neon sun.
 

IC FORM! PLEASE COMPLETE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-qPzP1fNMIC0FeT0jPn70HnjqjJGTwNeSExbNs3L33colBQ/viewform)

BASE KIT:
(https://i.imgur.com/eaeJ4fA.jpg)
I like big base kits and I cannot lie. Numpad and UK-ISO in base. This is the 80s, small kits aren't a thing yet. Please note small render error. The numpad 5 will be barred, not scooped.


KATAKANA ALPHAS:
(https://i.imgur.com/QvSbHNx.jpg)
Bring in the essence of those neon signs on a Tokyo night, with these replacement alphas. Should tie in nicely with our second deskmat we are busy working on.

BARS:
(https://i.imgur.com/pycoIr3.jpg)
Let's hope these are flat? But if not I made them yellow, like a banana.

NOVELTIES:
(https://i.imgur.com/mlD4ZBP.jpg)
Really happy with these. Obviously no RETROWAVE set would be complete without that iconic sun, but peep the neon flamingo and even the iconic F40 rear exhaust (I tried the Testarossa but just couldn't make it work). Vintage high tops and an 80s beatbox complete the scene. Vinyls and some roller skates is the cherry on top.

COMPACT:
(https://i.imgur.com/kovvE5Q.jpg)
Compatibility for those who, for whatever reason, do not like using an actual keyboard


DESKMAT: SUNSET
Coming soon. First revision will be getting modified (Sun gradient lines, and revised colours)

DESKMAT: 2
COMING SOON

RAMA x RETROWAVE
(https://i.imgur.com/AVeaxYT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/MEgq0EH.png)
Probably the single most identifiable piece of the iconography.

RENDERS:
HH60 by Hong Hobbies:
(https://i.imgur.com/2J6ifUV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sVfygKA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qelgHRB.jpg)

Evolv by Alpha Studios:
(https://i.imgur.com/dtZuk1Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EjRFstg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CY3HKSB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qsREBFx.jpg)

U80 by RAMA WORKS
(https://i.imgur.com/huzP09n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3BZxuYq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sv6Rx3E.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/M6dqNLY.jpg)

J-01 by ProtoTypist
(https://i.imgur.com/DLfXWfg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0RH16U3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vNtrUoA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vNtrUoA.jpg)

VENDORS:
USA: :::PROJECT KEYBOARD:::
CANADA: :::DESKHERO:::
EUROPE: :::CANDY KEYS:::
United Kingdom: :::PROTOTYPIST:::
OCEANIA: :::SWITCHKEYS:::
ASIA: :::MONOKEI:::
CHINA: :::ZFRONTIER:::

GROUP BUY START:
Early 2021.

A SPECIAL THANKS:
- Firstly to OCM for his brilliant work on the novelties, honestly a master craftsmen. Wishing you the best of luck as you pursue your priorities outside of this industry.
- Nathanalphaman for almost going blind when I first showed him this set.. Since then admitting it's grown on him.. Slightly. You're a true friend man, ily.
- PTR for the awesome intro graphics and video teaser.
- Everyone I've had the privilege to bounce ideas off. It's no secret I adore what I now do full time, so thanks for everyone for being a part of it!

JOIN OUR DISCORD:
discord.gg/switchkeys (http://discord.gg/switchkeys)

FORUM SIG:
Thanks to Havattack
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CHANGELOG:
13th October: IC START
15th October: Added IC Form
25th December: Added some Vendors. Added Sinpra Collab
13th February: Finalised Kitting
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: JKNY on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:11:35
Looks great, beautiful set I'm in
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: JumpStream on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:15:17
Can't wait for it

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: ptrrr on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:15:31
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: yoot on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:16:07
This looks pretty good but maybe try and design a more unique deskmat? A lot of deskmats look exactly like that
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: webstersx on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:18:43
100% in!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:22:52
Ive stuck to more clean simple kits but I think its time I go for it!! Now just for the right board to complement


𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Demagine on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:46:03
I'm getting analog dreams vibes, which means I'm 100% in :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: lanox on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:52:31
Looks amazing @switchkeys.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: popkorn62 on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:55:24
This set is so loud and Im here for it!!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Rebral on Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:08:24
keyset: Yup
deskmat: Yup
RAMA cap: Yup

I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: darthcapn on Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:27:42
Dang looks RAD! Gonna pair it with Alexotos' MECH mat!

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Agilr on Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:35:05
Hey! Just noticed a few inaccuracies with the renders:
GL with the IC Stef!

EDIT: Thanks for clearing up these for me NathanAlphaMan, guess you learn something new everyday :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: spacecables on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:16:25
Hello good sir, this is a simple confirmed acquisition for me.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: belgium_waffles on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:23:41
looks great, please consider daily clack as oce vendor!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: yenel on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:51:47
Absolutely loving the outrun vibes I'm getting from this - not every set makes me instantly want to buy it, but this one does! Props for the huge base kit
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Surostu on Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:57:30
looks great, please consider daily clack as oce vendor!  :thumb:

 :thumb: :cool:

Anyway, keen as for this. Id cop one of everything, but an even better idea is an alternate alpha kit, instead of seperate kata subs. Then i'll be all in.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:05:28
You know I'm here to show love and support for a good mate. Glad to see the IC drop!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: MrBingo on Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:09:34
i love this set, give me 2 of ech  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: LZRD on Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:20:01
Love the set Stef, pls listen to Stew about the alternate base kit idea though!  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: CAZ on Mon, 12 October 2020, 23:36:16
Love the set Stef, pls listen to Stew about the alternate base kit idea though!  :cool:

For once i agree with LZRD and Stew
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 13 October 2020, 01:36:23
That RAMA key is a must.  DOnt love the Mods, they are too bright for me but the overall idea is cool.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: harlekein on Tue, 13 October 2020, 01:51:00
Kinda looks like KAT Slurp (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108069.0)... but without the compatibility.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: zakatak on Tue, 13 October 2020, 04:43:00
This looks pretty good but maybe try and design a more unique deskmat? A lot of deskmats look exactly like that
agreed. The deskmat rn is extremely generic

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: huey on Tue, 13 October 2020, 06:01:35
Hey man, interesting set. Not at all my thing but I'm sure this will be killer for some people.

I have one suggestion for you; In your J-01 ISO render (thanks for adding one  :) ) the ISO R3 and R4 keys are discrepant. The base kit suggests that you are going full UK-ISO (which is great!) but the render does not follow suit. Not a serious sin and was probably just a mix up when rendering, though it's probably in your best interest to make a small amendment to it.

Best of luck with your IC!

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 13 October 2020, 06:41:23
The compact kit description cracks me up. But seriously, work with a 40s user to fine tune that kit. Great colors. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: constantinos on Tue, 13 October 2020, 10:42:19
Very interesting set. I would seriously consider going for it. Also loved the 80s
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: norb on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:00:25
flamingos and palm trees yeah boiii after laser and vaporwave this is a 100% buy :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: binepad on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:16:11
Color combination is fab!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:20:29
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: productkun on Tue, 13 October 2020, 17:19:17
The colours hurt my eyes, i love it!
Rama's are also quite amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: WejB on Wed, 14 October 2020, 08:03:36
Set looks amazing, nice and bright. But i am with Stew and the boys on this one. it needs to be a full alt base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Wed, 14 October 2020, 08:28:30
Looks nice. That Rama looks sick too! Will just wait for GB Dates.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Allkchi on Wed, 14 October 2020, 10:46:32
This set is so aggressively bright and I love it. Those RAMA keys are PRIMO. Would have to go buy programmable LEDs along with this, then re-map ESC to be a script so when I press that sweet, sweet RAMA it would change all the lights to a Retrowave color scheme and start playing that song from the video in the original post  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Wed, 14 October 2020, 19:32:31
Thanks so much for the early comments guys. We've just added an IC form if you'd like to share any feedback we can keep a hold of.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-qPzP1fNMIC0FeT0jPn70HnjqjJGTwNeSExbNs3L33colBQ/viewform

I'll be reviewing all feedback and comments here - I hear your comments about the deskmat, for those looking for something else unique we've hopefully got some good news to share soon

Many thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 14 October 2020, 21:05:18
Obligatory video, before anyone calls this a vaporwave set:


The colors you've picked are very nice and vibrant, and they are the colors representative of Outrun aesthetics. Great job there. Also, the artisans are fantastic. I'm not a fan of the novelties, but that's not to say that they aren't done well, too.

As for the kitting, it's quite good, but there is still room for improvement. Here are some suggestions for your consideration:

Base kit
Looks good for the most part, the most glaring thing is the lack of a R4 1.25u Fn key.

Katakana alphas kit
Almost perfect! There is just one small omission.

Bars kit
Looks good.

Compact kit
This one's a doozy. It's getting late, and I have work in the morning, so I'm going to leave this one for next time :D



All in all, I think this is a great looking and well executed set, which I have no doubt will do well come GB time. Additionally, I hope you will find the above information useful when making adjustments to the kits. Happy to hear your thoughts and answer any questions.

Edit: grammar
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:12:20
Agree on making space bar not yellow.. or just getting rid of all the yellow..Me HATE yellow with a passion. But either way, this might be the best pink, and the best 80's/cyberpunk/retrowave/whatever set I've seen yet. Absolutely love it. Only way it could be better, is in SA profile to go with retro theme... and becasue SA is the best thing ever.
Title: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:19:24
I made a crappy render with some alternative colors, and a more orange toned spacebar and arrows. Idk if that is frowned upon but really love this set and want to give my thoughts as I will more than likely be buying. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/8c09a49a0df3ef791160eb25b9772e59.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Surostu on Thu, 15 October 2020, 23:31:36
Keep yellow. Add cyan alternate accents.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Araset on Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:10:14
I made a crappy render with some alternative colors, and a more orange toned spacebar and arrows. Idk if that is frowned upon but really love this set and want to give my thoughts as I will more than likely be buying.
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+1, I like the concept very much, but I too would prefer some more orange and blue on the mods in order to cover more of the outrun color palette

Edit, forgot to tell what I really like: Rama Artisans (both of them, I'm getting one of the two variants for sure), all the novelties and the katakana option
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:22:12
Keep yellow. Add cyan alternate accents.  :thumb:

YES! THIS! (Well the second part anyway.... booooo yellow booo!) lol

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 16 October 2020, 15:35:57
How do I add this to my signature? (what's the link)
Edit: Never-mind, figured it out. Here it is:

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: T.Pineapples on Mon, 19 October 2020, 09:15:03
Can someone please confirm I'm not a weeb if I buy the katakana alphas, k ty. Very cool set btw.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 19 October 2020, 09:45:33
1.5u Super(s) in the "big" base kit would be rad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Wickles on Mon, 19 October 2020, 10:28:05
Beautiful set, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 19 October 2020, 11:40:31
Can someone please confirm I'm not a weeb if I buy the katakana alphas, k ty. Very cool set btw.

I don't care. Sub-legends are awesome, Moon symbols, communist letters, whatever the specific sub-legend is, I'm getting it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Schmack on Mon, 19 October 2020, 15:11:19
Definitely going to be watching out for this one! I like the colors on it a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Kotairo on Tue, 20 October 2020, 03:35:45
Im 100% in. 80s art and music is my thing. Purple my favorite color. Im sold.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: ..//dexx on Tue, 20 October 2020, 04:04:25
Gonna keep my eye on this set. Love the colors. And I'm a sucker for the theme.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Guvnor on Wed, 21 October 2020, 18:27:23
Hooooly moly! The best looking set ever!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 21 October 2020, 20:31:03
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Wed, 21 October 2020, 22:10:40
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?
Gonna have to pass on that one


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: udller on Thu, 22 October 2020, 01:03:04
has a vendor ever done an ic then turned out to run the gb throught another vendor? this looks cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: srslyshinobi on Thu, 22 October 2020, 14:29:32
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Kotairo on Thu, 22 October 2020, 20:42:03
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.
Id say just have it as an option, Ive seen GBs with 2 alpha options for the base. Id be one of the Katakana folks <3


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 22 October 2020, 21:06:47
I think you should make the Katakana sub-legend alpha's part of the basic set, it just goes too well with this theme.. Anyone else?

I support that completely.
Id say just have it as an option, Ive seen GBs with 2 alpha options for the base. Id be one of the Katakana folks <3

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That works too, divide the modifiers and alphas up. It just sucks having to buy 2 sets of alphas, when i'm only going to use one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Guvnor on Thu, 22 October 2020, 21:26:52
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Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

Turned out better than I could have imagined! Thanks for the renders!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: grundlemere on Fri, 23 October 2020, 08:45:41
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Current Keyboards on Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:10:56
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.

Not really trying to promote anything. Just quick and dirty renders for fun with what I had based on a Discord suggestion and thought I'd share.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 23 October 2020, 14:13:03
Somebody on my Discord suggested doing a render with this set and Cerakotes Lollypop, Prison Pink and Corvette yellow. Turned out nice.

This keyset is so rad. Definitely going to be a grab for me.

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Looks cool, except those aren't the real legends. Had you thought about maybe getting in touch with the runner to ask for the render files? If you're gonna promote your keyboard on someone else's IC, it seems like good courtesy.

Not really trying to promote anything. Just quick and dirty renders for fun with what I had based on a Discord suggestion and thought I'd share.

You shouldn't of paid that any attention, your "courtesy" was perfectly find.  It was rather obvious you were just messing around, and not trying to "promote" anything. I  didn't see you even  mention the name of your board or a link to it.
And you did an awesome job too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: grundlemere on Fri, 23 October 2020, 16:19:13
Whether this is fine is really up to the designer of this set, which is why the proper thing would have been to ask first. I wont speak for him, but I will say that if someone took one of my designs that I worked very hard to create, and stripped all the nuance out of the legends and presented it as-is, Id be pretty unhappy to have what amount to low-quality copies floating around that I now have to answer for and explain why they look different from my own renders and the final product. Conversely, if someone were to ask nicely for my keyset art and use them faithfully in their own renders, Id be thrilled to share them.

Playing around is fine, but if theyre not your toys, ask first.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 23 October 2020, 22:41:49
I wont speak for him,
... LOL!
"Whether this is fine is really up to the designer of this set" Is it? (Honest question, i think it probably is, or at least in this thread it is, but I like advocating for the devil.) If i want to make a render of this set on a cheese grater, and draw it out of crayons, who's going to stop me, how can they stop me, and MOST importantly, WHY should they be able to stop me? Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.
But really, that was so obviously an okay thing to do, it's silly to think he would have to/should ask. If anything, he's doing him a favor, and no one ask permission before giving a present.
It's absurd that you think you would "have to answer" for someone making poor quality renders of a set you designed, or that anyone would even ask you to. People go to threads like these for the renders, WHERE the creator has complete control over what he shows under his original post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: grundlemere on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:38:57
I wont speak for him,
Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.

Bruh
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 24 October 2020, 12:44:45
I wont speak for him,
Pretty sure i can take ANY artist work, and modify it however i want, legally, and morally, becasue it leaves the original intact.

Bruh

If i make a copy of the Mona Lisa, how does that alter the original... bruh? (It doesn't, obviously.)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Surostu on Sat, 24 October 2020, 17:38:47
Yo! can we talk about the set please. Keep this crap on reddit lol.

How are the survey results going Stef?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 25 October 2020, 06:51:42
Hey guys!
We are still working through all the data, and are almost ready for the first round of modifications. We've also been in talks with several vendors and hope to lock down the team very soon.


Things I am working on:

- Dropping numpad from base (It's clear from the data this is a good call. Plus, it will help us as we aim to hit a large MOQ to compound the slimmer kit for even better pricing)

- Fixing a couple of rendering errors (Numpad 00 for to name one)

- Fixing the 40s kit

- Going through Konstantin's notes in detail

- The next 2 deskmats (A not-insignificant amount of people aren't crazy on it as it stands. I hear you! This one is slated for the RGB offering, and I am busy penning the others for see how they are received)

- Experimenting with another accent kit. I know a lot of you said you'd like Cyan. I won't be replacing the yellow with it, but i'm not against the possibility of offering an accents kit if I think it works.

 :)

*EDIT* Deskmat protos have arrived. I have the RGB Version too which I haven't unboxed yet. Contrast looks great.
(https://i.imgur.com/VZhPt7c.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Sun, 25 October 2020, 11:07:25
Hey guys!
We are still working through all the data, and are almost ready for the first round of modifications. We've also been in talks with several vendors and hope to lock down the team very soon.


Things I am working on:

- Dropping numpad from base (It's clear from the data this is a good call. Plus, it will help us as we aim to hit a large MOQ to compound the slimmer kit for even better pricing)

- Fixing a couple of rendering errors (Numpad 00 for to name one)

- Fixing the 40s kit

- Going through Konstantin's notes in detail

- The next 2 deskmats (A not-insignificant amount of people aren't crazy on it as it stands. I hear you! This one is slated for the RGB offering, and I am busy penning the others for see how they are received)

- Experimenting with another accent kit. I know a lot of you said you'd like Cyan. I won't be replacing the yellow with it, but i'm not against the possibility of offering an accents kit if I think it works.

 :)
Thank you for the update and a possible cyan kit


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 25 October 2020, 12:57:56
Hell Yeah! I too thank you for the possible Cyan! I wonder if it would be possible to do a chrome accent, (or whether it might look tacky..) I guess you could collab with Rama or something  on some brushed aluminum enter, esc, arrows, and space bar keys, to achieve the look.
Like in the NewWaveRetro label:

Also please add pink (modifier color) space bars, and the option to have then entire f-row in the modifier pink color ( I don't understand why almost every set forces me to make the separate f clusters different colors..)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Surostu on Sun, 25 October 2020, 16:08:58
I approve of all of these changes  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: CAZ on Sun, 25 October 2020, 21:50:15
I cry for my fallen numpad, but happy to hear changes are in the works
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 26 October 2020, 02:19:34
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: paysen on Mon, 26 October 2020, 12:13:40
Add NORDE and count me in <3 Such a nice looking design. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Mon, 26 October 2020, 14:43:49
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Guvnor on Mon, 26 October 2020, 15:18:50
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

I don't care what has been made. I care about something I can actually get :D This kit looks just 100% perfect, and doesn't need any changes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: SwitchKeys on Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:19:55
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Yes. :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: _PixelNinja on Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:41:15
Any chance of you adding another R4 1u Alt and two R4 1.5u Super keys for MX HHKB bottom row (1u Alt, 1.5u OS, 7u spacebar, 1.5u OS, 1u Alt)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:47:58
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Yes. :eek:
Id love to help design


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 26 October 2020, 17:26:58
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

I don't care what has been made. I care about something I can actually get :D This kit looks just 100% perfect, and doesn't need any changes.
I second this. Some of us haven't been able to get some/any of the sets that guy mentions. Add more novelties if you wish, but please don't remove any.
It's silly how obsessed some people are with being "different" or unique. Sure, other set are similar, there are only so many colors out there (good ones at least), but this set does it BETTER.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Wickles on Tue, 27 October 2020, 09:14:33
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Oh god please make this!   ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: grundlemere on Tue, 27 October 2020, 12:41:31
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


I'm gonna need this. If this doesn't get made for this set, you need to run it. Fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Current Keyboards on Tue, 27 October 2020, 12:44:21
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Yes. :eek:

That's a big ol' yup from me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:04:33
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


I'm gonna need this. If this doesn't get made for this set, you need to run it. Fantastic.
Will definitely keep that in mind!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Araset on Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:43:53
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)



Big Up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 28 October 2020, 11:33:12
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Yes. :eek:

That's a big ol' yup from me.

Def interested in getting this deskmat even I don't grab the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: ilikerustoo on Wed, 28 October 2020, 14:59:09
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.

While I think it is fair to ask to differentiate the set a little more, I believe that that colours are already different enough. I would not confuse this set with others like laser, vaporwave, or analog dreams, and I feel regardless of differentiation of theme or not, most would buy the set based on the choice/appeal of colours. As for the novelties, I think they are completely fine. They represent the set for what it is - a retrowave set. I do agree some video games novelties would be cool but it depends on what they are and I feel like maybe another set with different colours would suit the 80s arcade theme more, which I believe is already in the works and would once again 'conflict' with another set. Some of the current novelties are also simply too iconic to the genre to not reference or include.

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Surostu on Thu, 29 October 2020, 03:45:24

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:

I think this is a perfect take on this. No one should be able to own iconography that has been around for decades. Well said.

If it was a straight rip, then sure, but it clearly isn't.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 29 October 2020, 13:13:56
I still think thematically you could try to differentiate the set a bit more from others that already exist within the retrowave genre.

We already have a set with a sun novelty, a cassette novelty, the deskmat looks very much like a very common wallpaper thats been floating around a few years now.

The colors are great, the addition of yellow is rad (a very underused color IMO  :thumb:) but I wish the theme were more creative so it would really set this set apart from other sets. You've mentioned the video game consoles being a big part of what you remember, and I'd totally look at going down that path as a theme. Quarters, tokens, tickets, the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

Not only is it good etiquette to try to provide working lanes for other sets that already exist, but I just think this is such a rich and relatively unexplored genre I'd like to see more unique aspects to it as a set, and think that would be fairly easy to do and make this a really good set at the same time.

While I think it is fair to ask to differentiate the set a little more, I believe that that colours are already different enough. I would not confuse this set with others like laser, vaporwave, or analog dreams, and I feel regardless of differentiation of theme or not, most would buy the set based on the choice/appeal of colours. As for the novelties, I think they are completely fine. They represent the set for what it is - a retrowave set. I do agree some video games novelties would be cool but it depends on what they are and I feel like maybe another set with different colours would suit the 80s arcade theme more, which I believe is already in the works and would once again 'conflict' with another set. Some of the current novelties are also simply too iconic to the genre to not reference or include.

I agree that we should have good etiquette in regards to provide working lanes for other sets but the flip side of that is that sets should not limit the number of creative takes on an genre, especially with one that has numerous very similar (yet different) sub-genres that tie in to a common theme - e.g sunset novelty. Is the big difference in colours compared to other sets not enough to provide a safe working lane for other sets? Is a there a set in specific you are referring to where there might be a conflict? Are the novelties an issue? Just trying to understand a little more.

Note: Not trying to be hostile :thumb:

Word b, word.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 01 November 2020, 11:39:14
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:

(https://i.imgur.com/guXkWtz.png) (https://i.imgur.com/JzEYjF3.png)

The look the roughly the same. Stripes start at 50% of the height of the circle. But then you get the deskmat:

(https://i.imgur.com/gS16RNf.png)

See the difference? Here, the stripes start at about 70-75% of the sphere's height. That's a bit tilting, but that's not all.

The other problem with these stripes is that they're uniform in thickness, which gives a completely different vibe. Instead of looking like the setting sun reflecting on the surface of the ocean, they look like the sun is being observed through horizontal blinds. Something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/VQzi4Ob.png)

Now, that in itself isn't that bad and certainly fits with the retrowave aesthetic, but I belive the way more iconic retrowave look is "the reflection", where the stripes gradually get thicker, like here:

(https://i.imgur.com/RtBVJRF.png)

This is because both vaporwave and retrowave/outrun are design aesthetics based on gradients. the horizontal lines are a way of approximating a gradient without using more than one color. Using them also creates this nifty transition of the circle slowly dissolving instead of just being obscured by bars.

To help illustrate what I mean here, I fired up the ol' Illustrator and made a quick mockup of how I believe the "classic" retrowave setting sun should look:

(https://i.imgur.com/j0OiyOf.png)

If OP doesn't want to change the symbol or can't (due to technical restrictions), then I would at least ask to make the design consistent between the caps and the deskmat. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: NathanAlphaMan on Sun, 01 November 2020, 12:32:53
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/guXkWtz.png)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JzEYjF3.png)


The look the roughly the same. Stripes start at 50% of the height of the circle. But then you get the deskmat:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gS16RNf.png)


See the difference? Here, the stripes start at about 70-75% of the sphere's height. That's a bit tilting, but that's not all.

The other problem with these stripes is that they're uniform in thickness, which gives a completely different vibe. Instead of looking like the setting sun reflecting on the surface of the ocean, they look like the sun is being observed through horizontal blinds. Something like this:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VQzi4Ob.png)


Now, that in itself isn't that bad and certainly fits with the retrowave aesthetic, but I belive the way more iconic retrowave look is "the reflection", where the stripes gradually get thicker, like here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RtBVJRF.png)


This is because both vaporwave and retrowave/outrun are design aesthetics based on gradients. the horizontal lines are a way of approximating a gradient without using more than one color. Using them also creates this nifty transition of the circle slowly dissolving instead of just being obscured by bars.

To help illustrate what I mean here, I fired up the ol' Illustrator and made a quick mockup of how I believe the "classic" retrowave setting sun should look:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j0OiyOf.png)


If OP doesn't want to change the symbol or can't (due to technical restrictions), then I would at least ask to make the design consistent between the caps and the deskmat. :)

I told you Stef :p

I personally don't have strong feelings going one way or another, but I do agree with you that the gradient sun is nicer and more symbolic of the retrowave genre. Furthermore, it helps distance the cap from Laser's sun by a bit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 01 November 2020, 22:36:24
This is very dope and true to the retrowave a e s t h e t i c... But one thing here is really bothering me. The setting sun legend and graphic.

Look at the caps:


And I thought i was OCD... I can almost guarantee you, you are the only one that noticed that...But now that you've pointed it out to me, I can honestly say, that I could not care less. Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: varzaman on Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:16:32
I actually noticed it too and agree with the other guy :P


The colors look awesome though. It is really gonna pop.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:09:25
I actually noticed it too and agree with the other guy :P


The colors look awesome though. It is really gonna pop.

Well, never mind then. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: vaf1en on Mon, 30 November 2020, 11:58:18
Yes, yes, yes. The answer is yes!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: RUN_GMSEE on Mon, 30 November 2020, 12:37:47
LOVE the deskmat :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: smackyp on Mon, 30 November 2020, 16:02:07
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Oh my god. That would make for a brilliant deskmat.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Mon, 30 November 2020, 16:59:50
the crazy carpet that was in 90% of arcades in the late 80's/early 90's would make a killer deskmat.

YES!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/AiopoD5.png)


Oh my god. That would make for a brilliant deskmat.
I do have an IC up for these


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: Adqam64 on Tue, 01 December 2020, 16:02:22
I'm super keen on this set, and love that ISO-UK is represented in the base kit (making it a must buy!).  I'm keen on the katakana alphas, too, but at the moment there are no ISO-UK equivalents there.  Is there any chance of those being added?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. FIRST DESKMAT PROTO PIC INSIDE
Post by: CookieFlow on Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:55:28
Love the idea, maybe a bit too loud for me but who knows.
But same as a few others, I am really not feeling the yellow. Hoping for some cyan or another color, but not yellow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: parzival418 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 16:48:41
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.

I concur with this!  I would love to see some orange keys in there similar to the color at the bottom of the sun.  Or maybe orange legends on the caps.

Definitely going to pick this up! Sad I missed the GMK Lasers and these are right up the same alley.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: SwitchKeys on Fri, 04 December 2020, 20:18:51
Hey guys! Just chiming in to say I am reading through each and every comment here and in the IC form.
I am busy presenting some alternate forms to existing kits and will update soon when they are finalised.

Thanks everyone who's taken the time to offer feedback. I am hoping to wrap up all the kits this month so we can push on.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Bringing a piece of 1986 to 2021.
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 04 December 2020, 21:24:23
I would love to see some orange or teal incorporated in here. Or a volt/UV green instead of the yellow even.

I concur with this!  I would love to see some orange keys in there similar to the color at the bottom of the sun.  Or maybe orange legends on the caps.

Definitely going to pick this up! Sad I missed the GMK Lasers and these are right up the same alley.  Keep it up!

There's some gmk lasers on ebay right now, and the R2 should be shipping out in the next month or so, and there will be more for sale then. I will probably sell mine (managed to score the SA version off the bay, and i prefer that profile to gmk, just wish i could trade my gmk novelties for the SA ones..)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: KiwiAhhhh on Sun, 06 December 2020, 08:53:53
very sexy and wild colorway keycap set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: clackeys on Sun, 06 December 2020, 17:12:29
This is a bright looking set, kinda interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Galakc on Mon, 07 December 2020, 14:48:55
Katakana kit is to die for...I love this set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: mdoersam on Mon, 07 December 2020, 16:40:53
Really amazing! NorDE is all that is missing  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Adqam64 on Mon, 07 December 2020, 18:23:06
Do we have any idea when in 2021 this will launch?  Just trying to budget around other GBs.  Even if you could say "Not January or February" that would be helpful!  Looking forward to putting this on the sunsetter.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: kastymizilian on Thu, 10 December 2020, 10:21:37
love it, will follow the project
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: xeon3175x on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:36:02
This is super sick!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:38:41
If there was ever a kit to buy extras of for re-selling on ebay, or the market, it would be this one. People are going to be clamoring for this thing after the GB is over, all the time. There's going to be a lot of people just getting into the hobby, asking "where can i get this!?," "Will there be a R2," " I can't believe i missed this" "I just had to get in to this hobby a month after this is released!", etc etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: CookieFlow on Sat, 12 December 2020, 22:05:41
I forgot something.

Please have the option to choose a base kit with the alphas or a base kit with the katakanas.

I really don't think separate "alphas" work for GMK due to price. I really feel a vast majority of people would only use 1 of the two.
At least I would only buy this set with a base kit that includes the katakanas.

If I am forced to buy a base kit with alphas and get the katakanas separately, that will be way over 200$ and it would also mean that I would leave like 90% of the base set keys in the box which feels like such a waste.
If you also go for the novelties, and want katakanas and use a 65% or under you'd probably be using under 10 keys from the base kit.

Same thing happened recently with Hanami Dango set. I loved it, but wanted the Hiraganas and not Alphas, but they were sold separately and I can't justify spending over 200$ for it and also leave 90+% of the base kit unused.
Had there been the option to buy a base hiraganas kit I would have joined the GB day one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 13 December 2020, 11:03:53
I forgot something.

Please have the option to choose a base kit with the alphas or a base kit with the katakanas.

I really don't think separate "alphas" work for GMK due to price. I really feel a vast majority of people would only use 1 of the two.
At least I would only buy this set with a base kit that includes the katakanas.

If I am forced to buy a base kit with alphas and get the katakanas separately, that will be way over 200$ and it would also mean that I would leave like 90% of the base set keys in the box which feels like such a waste.
If you also go for the novelties, and want katakanas and use a 65% or under you'd probably be using under 10 keys from the base kit.

Same thing happened recently with Hanami Dango set. I loved it, but wanted the Hiraganas and not Alphas, but they were sold separately and I can't justify spending over 200$ for it and also leave 90+% of the base kit unused.
Had there been the option to buy a base hiraganas kit I would have joined the GB day one.

I, for some reason, thought this had all ready been brought up, but he's exactly right. Please make either the modifiers and alphas separate kits, or have two base kits. It sucks being forced to buy the regular alphas when i'm not going to be using them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sun, 13 December 2020, 15:25:40
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: AllieBlairThomas on Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:41:12
God I love this set so much. Please take my money
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Fshizl on Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:44:05
This is my first post of many. Im in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: CookieFlow on Sun, 13 December 2020, 18:29:00
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef

I am not a designer so I have no clue why a high MOQ is important, but I think these days all sets reach MOQ easily.
I also think due to the nature of the set that works very well with Japanese sub legends, that the split would be fairly close to 50/50 on who would prefer standard Alphas or Katakanas.

I really hope this can be reconsidered, or if there is only 1 base kit, to have the modifiers available as a separate kit for people wanting the Katakanas.

Looking at Hanami Dango the Hiragana alpha is 85$, and being forced into a 135$ base kit only to use a dozen of keys feels so bad.



And of course a small kit with some Cyan would be <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 13 December 2020, 19:59:18
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef
I don't think you're going to have ANY problem getting high MOQ  on this set.... I bet you'll be getting tons of request for rounds 2, etc, for years after.

Is there any reason GMK sets don't ever separate the mods and alphas into separate sets, so we could have 1 mod set, and then the 2 separate alpha sets?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 15 December 2020, 11:37:56
Giving all the above some thought presently. One thing I'm not really keen on is offering two base kits because the goal will be a high MOQ on base. Having two of them cannibalises this goal (Unless your biip haha). Once we get through the business of the Christmas period it'll be easier to sit down and nut it out.

In any case, we've got vendors secured in most zones and are currently in talks for NA. With a bit of luck we can get this running in Q1 but will keep this updated as I get some more news.

For those who were wanting the Rev. 1 deskmat, I've commissioned a new artist who is busy working on a new design. The "Sunset" mat will not feature in a GB along this project, but will be available as an in-stock deskmat drop in early new year with Vendors in NA, Europe and Australia.

Stef

I am not a designer so I have no clue why a high MOQ is important, but I think these days all sets reach MOQ easily.
I also think due to the nature of the set that works very well with Japanese sub legends, that the split would be fairly close to 50/50 on who would prefer standard Alphas or Katakanas.

I really hope this can be reconsidered, or if there is only 1 base kit, to have the modifiers available as a separate kit for people wanting the Katakanas.

Looking at Hanami Dango the Hiragana alpha is 85$, and being forced into a 135$ base kit only to use a dozen of keys feels so bad.



And of course a small kit with some Cyan would be <3
Higher MOQ means cheaper price, that way more people can afford it. 2 base kits will make it harder for runner to reach his goal. About the demand for this set during gb, it totally depends on the running period. Imagine you run a gb during last november when there are too many good sets, some of classic sets like yuri or grisanne were competed so hard because people made a choice to buy another good set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 15 December 2020, 16:29:59

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 15 December 2020, 16:47:33

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 15 December 2020, 19:01:58

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
I see, that makes since.
So, either separate both alphas from the mods, and only slightly screw over both parties (the ones that want the reg alphas AND the ones that want subs), or include one of the alphas with mods, and screw over only which ever party gets left out, substantially...
I think there should be a poll on which alphas to include with the base (unless SK has a preference, then i guess it's up to him)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: PHYLO on Wed, 16 December 2020, 09:52:55
Purple, pinks, blues, always the best combo for keycaps. Love it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: nvh2092 on Wed, 16 December 2020, 10:14:07

So why can't the modifiers and alphas be split into separate sets?

And if there is only one complete base kit, and an extra separate alpha kit, should there not be a poll or something on which of the alphas should be included in the base, and which should be separated out?
A normal kit (mods + alphas together) costs less than separated mods + separated alphas, based on GMK pricing. But it's like that for every manufactured stuff. Reason behind this is that the manufacturer (in this case GMK) has to set up environment and infrastructure to produce keycaps, when you order everything in one place, GMK just needs to set up everything at once, this also aplies to quality-control and packaging. When 1 a base kit is splitted in 2, GMK needs to redo some of the steps twice hence the price will be more expensive. A big box with 2 cookies is normally cheaper than 2 small box each contains 1 cookie. This is how I understand it. I may be not correct tho. Hence you always see one base kit with mods and alphas since it's the best way both for buyers (more affordable prices) and also for vendors (fewer kits fewer MOQ goals).
Runner obviously prefers a cleaner look with mono latin alpha in base kit. I don't oppose with the kitting, I also prefer mono latin alphas  :p
I see, that makes since.
So, either separate both alphas from the mods, and only slightly screw over both parties (the ones that want the reg alphas AND the ones that want subs), or include one of the alphas with mods, and screw over only which ever party gets left out, substantially...
I think there should be a poll on which alphas to include with the base (unless SK has a preference, then i guess it's up to him)
What you're mentioning is actually happening in GMK Norse IC. Runner made a poll to decide which set of alphas should be included in base. The poll turns out right now 57 - 42. It's gonna a ****tiest decision making ever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 16 December 2020, 13:27:59
I didn't even know that was an option.

But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 17 December 2020, 22:31:29
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 18 December 2020, 02:52:24
I didn't even know that was an option.

But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.
That middle ground is not a good idea, the set will probably flop because the price for a base kit surely becomes too high.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: DeluxeSofa on Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:07:02
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Avocadough on Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:35:09
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality

I think you're mistaken this set is GMK Olivia recoloured.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 18 December 2020, 11:27:01
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.
Yes. This was all ready covered. Doing it that way would make it slightly more expensive for "everyone", instead of doing it the other way, and making it A LOT more expensive for whatever party's alphas get left off the base set.
I'm good with whatever way it ends up. I want the sub-legend alphas, so obviously that's what i would prefer to be included in the base kit, but if I'm in the minority, especially a small minority, then we should do it another way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 18 December 2020, 11:36:40
So this is a gmk version of matrix keycaps pbt retrowave . so much for originality
"Originality".... is beyond overrated, there is no idea that it truly "original". Whining about being unique is for angst teens. Adults realize we stand on the shoulders of giants, it's silly not to build off what others have done.
That being said, "retrowave" is a very popular trend right now, it's no surprise that more then one company/person has been inspired by it. If you can't see just how different those two sets are, I don't know what to tell ya buddy. Ones backlit, ones not. The modifier and alpha colors are reversed, there is accent colors, etc.
 Retrowave, Neon cities, Laser, 80's after dark, vaporwave, are all inspired by similar things, yet are different enough to warrant interest in each. 
Just seems like an absurd comment my man.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 19 December 2020, 00:41:11
But indeed a base kit without alphas and then having the choice between regular alphas or katakanas sublegends is probably a good middle ground.

That would just make it more expensive for *everyone*.
Yes. This was all ready covered. Doing it that way would make it slightly more expensive for "everyone", instead of doing it the other way, and making it A LOT more expensive for whatever party's alphas get left off the base set.
I'm good with whatever way it ends up. I want the sub-legend alphas, so obviously that's what i would prefer to be included in the base kit, but if I'm in the minority, especially a small minority, then we should do it another way.


Not "slightly" more expensive, the way GMK kitting works. Probably $50 more expensive.

Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 19 December 2020, 11:53:47
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that too was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 19 December 2020, 12:09:33
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that to was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.

My 2: Your idea is not realistically feasible with how GMK's pricing structure works. Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Edit: updated calculation
Edit2: i am bad at math
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: CookieFlow on Sat, 19 December 2020, 13:08:58
Then the question is how much would a base kit cost if you have a higher MOQ and only 1 kit, versus having 2 kits and a lower MOQ.

I never saw the price of any sets get lower even after tripling or more the MOQ, so I assume the price is based on the estimated MOQ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:16:10
I suppose "slightly" was a poor word choice.

"Just let the GB runners pick which way works best for their set, and everyone can adapt." Well yeah, and that to was all ready mentioned..
We're just giving our 2 cents, which is in general the point of these threads, (other then to advertise and get the word out.) He/she/they are of coarse free to do with it what they wish.

My 2: Your idea is not realistically feasible with how GMK's pricing structure works. Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190–$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Edit: updated calculation
Edit2: i am bad at math
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:46:01
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)

I've seen you comment on this thread so much, and you also have the matching sig and avatar, that I've subconsciously started thinking that you're the runner :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Adqam64 on Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:51:32
Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

I'm happy for whatever alphas the designer likes in the basekit and then extra alphas as already proposed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 19 December 2020, 20:57:17
Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

It's also worth noting here that the icons kit only has sufficient coverage for 60%/65% in both cases :) For more complete coverage it would be even higher.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Shiba1337 on Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:16:53
Looks too much like Handarbeit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 19 December 2020, 22:45:26
Yeah, i think we've come to the conclusion (as if it is up to any of us...) that splitting both alphas from the modifiers isn't optimal, and that it would probably be better to have a poll to decide which of the alphas goes with the base.
 But again, the Gb runner can do whatever they wish, obviously. (and i'll be happy, this set is dope.)

I've seen you comment on this thread so much, and you also have the matching sig and avatar, that I've subconsciously started thinking that you're the runner :D

I know, I know, i should really leave this thread alone for awhile... Working from home leaves me with way too much time to procrastinate on message boards..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Kits SoonTM
Post by: clacklabs on Thu, 24 December 2020, 11:16:17
Buyers would probably be looking at around $150 for 60%/65% coverage, around $170 for 75% and TKL, and up to $190$200 to match coverage offered by standard GMK base kits. You can see this for yourself if you look at sets that offered separate alphas and mods as child kits (e.g. GMK Future Funk).

Thanks for a concrete example here; looking at CandyKeys I can see the base kit (with numpad and even some media keys) comes in at 135 whereas the separate icons + alphas comes to 152 with no numpad or 165 with numpad.  Also, that is a NICE kit.  Shame it doesn't have ISO-UK support.  ;)

I'm happy for whatever alphas the designer likes in the basekit and then extra alphas as already proposed.

+1 for ISO-UK support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Thu, 24 December 2020, 22:29:57
Couple of prototype caps from Sinpra. The right cap is in my opinion a great match to my Pantone samples! What do you guys think?

(https://i.imgur.com/GhJ9RJB.png)

In other news, have added some Vendors to OP and will have a new deskmat to show soon!  We are just making some initial revisions.

*EDIT* Also have my preferred Pantones above. The pink chip I should have on hand in the next couple of weeks when it his my forwarding address. I've ordered doubles of everything, as one will be sent to GMK.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Thu, 31 December 2020, 11:56:58
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 31 December 2020, 13:29:21
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: nvh2092 on Thu, 31 December 2020, 21:08:20
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.
It would reduce the price by 10usd tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 31 December 2020, 21:46:31
Have you ever thought of just not including the numpad on the base kit? I mean to make the base kit cheaper and tbh it's not just me who has crap ton of numpad not being used and being stuck on their box/plastic etc.

Makes an excellent point.. I don't think many people have full size keyboards anymore. It's mostly  60, tkl, and 75 is getting very popular. I can't see myself ever purchasing a full size one again.
It would reduce the price by 10usd tho.
Not sure what your point is? Yes, it would reduce the price, that's why we are in favor of it.. (and becasue i have no use for a numpad)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 06 January 2021, 16:42:23
GMK Peeps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: smackyp on Wed, 06 January 2021, 23:49:53
Maybe it's the lighting, but the eyes on that right cap seems to be a little bit green-tinted to me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 07 January 2021, 00:15:23
GMK Peeps.

The awful Easter candy?! WHERE?!

Purple peeps are more pastel.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: TheBlackHammer on Thu, 07 January 2021, 14:49:40
is it possible to add a 1.5u enter, and a 1.75u backspace to the compact kit. Really looking forward to this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: Sinpra on Sun, 10 January 2021, 16:28:45
Maybe it's the lighting, but the eyes on that right cap seems to be a little bit green-tinted to me.

You aren't entirely wrong, the yellow in the eyes is a bit of a pain to get 100% but thankfully I still have some time before this set runs to iron out the kinks!

(Also for clarification the blue and red one wasn't meant for this set, just an added bonus in the parcel!)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: vladimir108 on Mon, 11 January 2021, 14:32:54
Miami Vice kit :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Mon, 11 January 2021, 22:05:04
Hi all,
Excited to share my latest designs for our new deskmat for discussion.

I would like your feedback, which of these two would you choose!

(https://i.imgur.com/Y7pqvhQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jw8WE5G.jpg)


Also, would you like to see edge to edge printing or black border?

(Please ignore the low resolution on these, they are just working drafts as I finalise everything)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: CookieFlow on Mon, 11 January 2021, 22:20:19
Between the two, I prefer the top one.

I appreciate this new take on the mat, but personally I would prefer the design without the car.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 12 January 2021, 01:02:09
I can barely tell he difference honestly, but my eyes are tired right now. Bottom.


I agree, I'd prefer one without the car.


I would want an "outrun" style desk mat that is just a 2 tone of the purple and pink used in the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: vernSL on Tue, 12 January 2021, 13:08:14
I prefer the top.

But I definitely agree, there should be a more minimalistic deskmat without the car. This is too busy for me on my desk, but I'm sure there are people who love it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats! All Vendors announced.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Tue, 12 January 2021, 23:28:19
Yep the plan is to keep one loud deskmat and one more minimalistic deskmat which we are working on right now (Likely the purple mat with a silhouette repeating pattern, possibly the palm trees or the flamingos).

I'm hesitant to remove the car as it is literally the focal point of the entire deskmat. Removing it just puts us back at the original design (If you are really into the sunset deskmat you'll be able to buy it shortly from Space Cables, SwitchKeys, KeyGem, Ashkeebs and ProtoTypist)

Thanks for the continued interest guys. We're also pleased to confirm Project Keyboard who will be running this for North America.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Tue, 12 January 2021, 23:34:49
Really dig the car desk mat! I'm honestly torn between the two with a slight change in colors. If I had to pick one I think I would go with the top, something about the orange in the sun just makes it a tad better. I'm going to vote for the edge to edge printing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats! All Vendors announced.
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 13 January 2021, 11:44:41
Miami Vice kit :-)

I think of pink and blue/teal more when it comes to Miami Vice,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats! All Vendors announced.
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 13 January 2021, 12:42:05
Yep the plan is to keep one loud deskmat and one more minimalistic deskmat which we are working on right now (Likely the purple mat with a silhouette repeating pattern, possibly the palm trees or the flamingos).

I'm hesitant to remove the car as it is literally the focal point of the entire deskmat. Removing it just puts us back at the original design (If you are really into the sunset deskmat you'll be able to buy it shortly from Space Cables, SwitchKeys, KeyGem, Ashkeebs and ProtoTypist)

Thanks for the continued interest guys. We're also pleased to confirm Project Keyboard who will be running this for North America.

I fully understand.
I would still think that without the car it would be different enough from your "classic", I don't often see the palm trees inside the sun which I find awesome.
It's just that the keyboard would sit mostly on top of the car, so in my head that woudn't look that good, since you would only see some random parts of the car like the wheels or spoiler.

But if there is a more minimalistic one, that's awesome. I really like the sun with the palm trees on the right, feels like a perfect place to have your mouse.
And I agree, the slight orange tone of the top one is really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: SwitchKeys on Wed, 13 January 2021, 15:45:22
Thanks for your comments CookieFlow!

Nathan actually mocked up a render of a (Now outdated design) with the keyboard on it for scale.

(https://i.imgur.com/uLnwwv9.png)

I will be back here soon with some kitting updates and hopefully another deskmat addition :)

Cheers
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 13 January 2021, 19:14:56
That looks a lot better than I imagined in my head ! Probably better suited for a small keyboard so it doesn't get mostly covered.
I like the "retrowave" in Katakana on the plate, that's a cool idea that hopefully would make it into the final design

Looking forward to see the more minimalistic one, but I will say the more I look at the car design the more I like it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: mpererr on Sat, 16 January 2021, 11:59:30
Might have to buy this set just for the F-40... Seriously though, great work on the mats!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 21 January 2021, 14:33:50
The car looks hella nice. I think it will sell well, but you probably should offer an extra, more minimalistic one too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. New Deskmats!
Post by: SwitchKeys on Fri, 05 February 2021, 17:18:01
Another small update.
Added Candy Keys as EU Vendor. All vendors now finalised. Awaiting mockups from Space for the cable tie-in and I should have all kits revised next week as Nathan has been busy wrapping up his other amazing projects.

Thanks for everyone's patience so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. All Vendors secured!
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 05 February 2021, 17:43:09
The render of ISO keyboard shows a R3 pipe key and R4 <> key non sublegend which are used for basic ISO. These keys don't exist in any kit. Will these appear in the final kitting?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Fri, 12 February 2021, 17:38:55
Have done another round of kitting (Will be locking this in as we head into the final stretch of the IC). See OP for the latest kits.

Keeping a compact base was something we had tried really hard (Indeed the IC responses were basically spit for this). Ultimately, I couldn't bring myself to cut due to the punishment it would cause ISO / Numpad users as an example. To counter this, we will push ahead with an enormous MOQ to shoot for competitive pricing with a pretty complete base kit.

I've hopefully catered for the majority of 40s users, so if this is you, given we know 40s account for less than 10% on average of base kit sales please show some support during GB. Have trimmed down the bars to save some $ also.

Lastly massive thanks to Nathanalphaman for all his hard work with kitting among all the other stuff he is dealing with on a daily basis. Imagine trying to run your Polybius project among other things, and having me on your doorstep every morning with requests.

Next update will contain pricing and a date schedule. As we move closer, I am working with Rama on some additional collabs for this project and I am still drafting for the second deskmat.

Thanks to everyone for sticking around and most importantly for the feedback in the IC.

Peace <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Alejo1707 on Sun, 14 February 2021, 12:00:53
I love the aesthetic, and will probably buy it, but my long crusade remains...WHY GMK? :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 14 February 2021, 12:37:51
I imagine the runner likes the cherry profile, ABS, and GMK are second to none as far as quality goes. I'd prefer SA or MG myself, but whatevs, there are a lot of things I would change, but it aint my set. If I really wanted that "perfect" set of mine (and this is close), i would design it and run it myself, but I don't want it that bad, and I'm too lazy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 19 February 2021, 04:45:57
Thank GOD I joined this forum while this is in progress. 100% in!
Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Rx003 on Fri, 19 February 2021, 04:56:20
I am here for the Rama glwic and glws  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sat, 20 February 2021, 18:55:06
Deskmat prototype has arrived. Qualiy and vibrancy blew me away, really excited to share these.

In terms of set progress. We've sent the kits off to GMK for quotation. Just waiting to hear back


(https://i.imgur.com/JRaqKxC.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/yxJ96Th.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Jsk67DO.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/RnnoVEv.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Whiplash_XXIII on Sat, 20 February 2021, 19:00:38
Deskmat prototype has arrived. Qualiy and vibrancy blew me away, really excited to share these.

In terms of set progress. We've sent the kits off to GMK for quotation. Just waiting to hear back


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JRaqKxC.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yxJ96Th.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Jsk67DO.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RnnoVEv.png)

These are stellar!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: CookieFlow on Sat, 20 February 2021, 19:44:04
The deskmat looks incredible.
I wasn't fully on board with the car at first, but it works really well  :thumb:

I was hoping that the "レトロウェーブ" stayed on the plate as I thought that was an awesome "easter egg".
But that's the only part that is blocked, so I guess I will not know for now haha.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 20 February 2021, 20:15:52

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Sat, 20 February 2021, 23:22:32

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: CookieFlow on Sun, 21 February 2021, 15:17:26

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).


I think it's a tough decision.
Awaken with Katakana outsold the Latin Alphas by almost 3 to 1.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 21 February 2021, 22:03:40

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).


I think it's a tough decision.
Awaken with Katakana outsold the Latin Alphas by almost 3 to 1.
It'll probably be the same with this one. I don't think all that many people end up filling out the IC form. I know i forget half the time..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 22 February 2021, 04:36:28

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).


I think it's a tough decision.
Awaken with Katakana outsold the Latin Alphas by almost 3 to 1.
It'll probably be the same with this one. I don't think all that many people end up filling out the IC form. I know i forget half the time..
Gmk agent 01 had sublegends at first but removed later due to interest. It depends on theme and time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Adqam64 on Mon, 22 February 2021, 05:51:37
I would definitely like to buy the katakana set - but it doesn't have ISO-UK support, so I won't.  I'd be happy if that was the only kit if it had ISO-UK support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: CookieFlow on Mon, 22 February 2021, 10:03:35

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).


I think it's a tough decision.
Awaken with Katakana outsold the Latin Alphas by almost 3 to 1.
It'll probably be the same with this one. I don't think all that many people end up filling out the IC form. I know i forget half the time..
Gmk agent 01 had sublegends at first but removed later due to interest. It depends on theme and time.


Of course it depends on the theme. I don't always advocate for Japanese sub-legends, on some sets I prefer regular Latin Alphas.
But I just think Retrowave is one of those where I feel fairly confident that a Katakana sublegend base would do better as its theme feels perfectly suited for it.

And that I think making the call for Base Latin Alphas just based on a form that was close to 50% is a tough call to make (also depending on how many answers that form got).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 22 February 2021, 19:46:04
This set really does make a bold color choice look good. Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 22 February 2021, 20:26:02

Even better if the Katakana alphas were in the base set, leaving the simple alpha in an additional kit.
Yeah, we both wish. But doesn't look like that's in the cards unfortunately.

Was the hardest decision of the whole set. Ultimately I chose latin purely because it slightly edged out Katakana as an option (Talking literally single digit percentages).


I think it's a tough decision.
Awaken with Katakana outsold the Latin Alphas by almost 3 to 1.
It'll probably be the same with this one. I don't think all that many people end up filling out the IC form. I know i forget half the time..
Gmk agent 01 had sublegends at first but removed later due to interest. It depends on theme and time.
Probably. I guess well see what the finale sale numbers are (in regards to both gmk agent and this) If i'm correct about people not filling out the IC forms, that lack of interest may not be reflected in final sale numbers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: 3yatt on Tue, 02 March 2021, 19:31:58
Its Early 2021. Where is it?? GIB!!!! :]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: elmo on Wed, 03 March 2021, 11:01:23
So this is cancelled?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 03 March 2021, 18:22:42
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 03 March 2021, 18:26:50
Its Early 2021. Where is it?? GIB!!!! :]
I vaguely remember someone saying GMK got so back ordered, they decided to stop taking new orders for the time being. So i think a lot of GB's are on hold for now. (Take with a grain of salt, I'm not sure.)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 03 March 2021, 19:21:25
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:

Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 03 March 2021, 20:51:42
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:

Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser

That is such nonsense
Report back from some discord investigating: There is some issue, Sk is in discussion with GMK over it. I'm sure they'll update us when they know anything for sure. Still a huge bummer.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: ehmora on Wed, 03 March 2021, 22:35:48
This looks sooo good on the silver and PC rendered cases. Hope everything works out!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 04 March 2021, 07:43:57
Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser

That would be such bull****. >:(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Gremlosh on Thu, 04 March 2021, 11:13:32
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:

Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser

Damn that sucks. I was looking forward to this GB. This might have been my first GMK set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Konami_Ai on Thu, 04 March 2021, 12:08:36
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:

Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser

The novelty I can understand, if it was a copywrite issue, better to deal with it now, rather than later.
But stopping a set for "common theme"? GMK has definitely run sets of the similar theme *simultaneously * before.
If that's the case, that's insanely lame.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 04 March 2021, 12:33:23
Has anyone tried reaching out to Mito (Laser's GB runner) and asking him to advocate for it? EDIT: I shot him a message on discord, but i doubt he'll pay much attention to some message from a random dude he's never talked to on discord. We'll see.
It is absurd that Vaporwave, which had WAY more in common with Laser, got made no problem, but GMK is pulling this crap with this set?
I know I'm in the minority, but can we just go SA?

That "outrun" sun symbol has been around along time, Laser has no ownership over it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. Kitting finalised.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 04 March 2021, 12:36:22
So this is cancelled?
?! Why would you say such a horrible thing?!  :eek:

Allegedly, according to Lang [GMK Cafe], GMK is stopping Retrowave due to a novelty and common theme to GMK Laser


The novelty I can understand, if it was a copywrite issue, better to deal with it now, rather than later.
But stopping a set for "common theme"? GMK has definitely run sets of the similar theme *simultaneously * before.
If that's the case, that's insanely lame.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but what novelties do they share, other then the cassette tape and the sun with lines? Both of which existed long before Laser used them.
I am legit pissed at this garbage. I was SO stoked for this set/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Fri, 05 March 2021, 04:10:39
Has anyone tried reaching out to Mito (Laser's GB runner) and asking him to advocate for it? EDIT: I shot him a message on discord, but i doubt he'll pay much attention to some message from a random dude he's never talked to on discord. We'll see.
It is absurd that Vaporwave, which had WAY more in common with Laser, got made no problem, but GMK is pulling this crap with this set?
I know I'm in the minority, but can we just go SA?

That "outrun" sun symbol has been around along time, Laser has no ownership over it.
I would be surprised if it wasn't Mito/Drop who raised that issue with GMK in the first place
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: cadrev on Fri, 05 March 2021, 08:19:07
The colors are so far away from Laser  :(, was looking forward to this so much.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retrowave. [On Hold]
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 05 March 2021, 14:38:03
Has anyone tried reaching out to Mito (Laser's GB runner) and asking him to advocate for it? EDIT: I shot him a message on discord, but i doubt he'll pay much attention to some message from a random dude he's never talked to on discord. We'll see.
It is absurd that Vaporwave, which had WAY more in common with Laser, got made no problem, but GMK is pulling this crap with this set?
I know I'm in the minority, but can we just go SA?

That "outrun" sun symbol has been around along time, Laser has no ownership over it.
I would be surprised if it wasn't Mito/Drop who raised that issue with GMK in the first place
Yeah, you're not the 1st person to imply that possibility.. That's part of the reason  I contacted him, in hope to at least partly  dispel that rumor.  If that it is the case, I hope it's Drop and not Mito.. I've bought THREE of Mito's sets.. If i find out I've been supporting a d-bag, piece of scum, i will be even more bummed by the situation. How DARE anyone try to claim any kind of trademark or something for 90% novelties in Laser, especially the "outrun" sun. They've all been around a LONG time, way before Laser, and are in no way originated by Drop/Mito.
The Retrowave Gb, would not be occurring at the same time as a Laser anyway. This all around absurd.
I really hope they decide to go with another keykap form and manufacturer. GMK was never my favorite, and now that i know they have shoddy business practices, they can go duck themselves. I would prefer to never buy from them again.