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Title: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (14/07/2023 - Prototype picture Update)
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sun, 04 June 2023, 07:37:04
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 Hello, I'm DELLA KEY from South Korea.

Allow me to introduce myself.

 My life begins as a mechanical research engineer for automobile lamps.

 I have serveral experiences as the lamp designer & engineer in various automoblie projects. (Genesis, Chevrolet, Hyundai, Kia, BMW, etc.)

but the eager to make something creative & unique leaded me to leave my job. so I have dived to artisan's world. 

 While working as an artisan maker, I have felt a huge thirst for mechanical design. Because my roots are mechanical design researchers.

This is a project to achieve my own dream.

This was originally intended for self made board. so I never mind to hold GB.

I just wanna create a great piece of art that chases perfect design in mechanical keyboard.

 Yea, We are artisan maker, but are also one of keyboard enthusiast. we have an eager to make our own keyboard with our design language.


First of all we have found what is the best feeling to us.

(Prototype picture)
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0. CONTENTS



1. Spec Details
     (H88nu Layout)
     
More
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2. Assembly Layout

     
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3. Render

     
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4. Photos

     [30/06/2023]
     
More
this is a first prototype.

Please consider that this is a rough prototype.
The second prototype will be built with additional mechanical design improvements.
I will upload additional build photos when the substrate arrives.[/color]

(https://i.imgur.com/AeTsPIs.png)

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     [01/07/2023]
     
More

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     [14/07/2023]

(https://i.imgur.com/UGiGPa7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/A0HQhFb.png)

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5. Information


6. Development Story

0. We focus more on elegance and luxury than efficiency
The curve is a backbone of our design

We already plan to make our artisan tray, Sanctuary, it has elegant Curve at the side.

The pressure of large and heavy curve makes me feel comfortable. I like the visual impression and the solid feeling comes from the curve.

A Grand piano, whale’s belly, the horizon, Osanbashi Hall in Yokohama, Japan, and opera house in Sydney, such things inspire to our work.

I tried to incorporate the grand, elegant curves into our design while maintaining the classic exterior of the keyboard.

1. must be Top Mounted
 - we prefer Clacky, and clean sound like 456gt, Orion by duck, Jane V2 ME

2. There should be only Aluminum without any material underneath the PCB
- if there’s only aluminum under the PCB, the board makes more clacky sound  like the Keycult, and Jane V2 ME.

3. Front height & Typing angle should be under 18mm / 10°
 - they are the most comfortable spec for typing with long time.

4. Heavier than 4.5kg for weight
- the heavy weight makes stable, profound, and low echo
- also it emphasizes the board's own sound. the heavy board is less affected by other environments such as deskmat, desk's thickness, etc...

5. The bolt hole should be unvisible at all side of the board
 - The bolt hole is not an attractive factor to the perfection of our board.
 

(To implement screwless design, Geon's feet format fits to ours. but we rearranged it little to prevent the Vibration between board & desk.

 The feet’s contacting points with the desk get minimized for less echo.

 In order to follow our unique design language and minimize contacting point, the feet is also curved shape. The edges of both side are slightly higher than center. so only 4 edges of the long feet contact with the desk.)

6. The JST cable should position beneath the mid piece to hide.
 - I am not in favor of other substances or parts (daughter board wires/parts made of other materials) under the pcb. they they usually bother to make clear sound via irregular reflection of sound.


7. Development Log

- waiting for 1st Prototype
- 30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE



Discord  (https://discord.gg/della-key-848684957224271872)
Instargram  (https://www.instagram.com/della_keyboard/?hl=ko)
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DirtyGingy on Sun, 04 June 2023, 08:21:10
Holy hell that price. I can see it being higher, but maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: Mecxs on Sun, 04 June 2023, 09:15:37
I'm gonna need a stronger desk.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: nostr on Sun, 04 June 2023, 10:13:31
I think this keyboard is special.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 04 June 2023, 10:24:20
thicc. GLWIC
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: aicyborg on Sun, 04 June 2023, 19:45:07
That side profile is immaculate. I'd love to buy one of these. Thanks for ISO support!
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: ResponsibleSpender on Mon, 05 June 2023, 20:10:18
I'm a lurker, but I had to come out and say this is beautiful.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: The0rigina1 on Tue, 06 June 2023, 02:35:02
Reverse keycult no3 giggle
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: phinix on Tue, 06 June 2023, 04:50:33
$1000-1500? Are you nuts?
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: Carcha on Tue, 06 June 2023, 05:20:13
Definitely following this closely. Very, very interesting board. Great job with the design, I hope it turns out just as gorgeous.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: keybay.tech on Fri, 09 June 2023, 14:49:19
really cool design!
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:17:31
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 04 June 2023, 08:21:10
Holy hell that price. I can see it being higher, but maybe I'm missing something.

thank you for your attention.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:18:22
Quote from: Mecxs on Sun, 04 June 2023, 09:15:37
I'm gonna need a stronger desk.

thank you for your attention Mecxs. have a nice day.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:19:22
Quote from: nostr on Sun, 04 June 2023, 10:13:31
I think this keyboard is special.

thanks nostr. This is the best keyboard I've ever thought of.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:20:34
Quote from: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 04 June 2023, 10:24:20
thicc. GLWIC

thank you I wish you success in your art work.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:21:03
Quote from: aicyborg on Sun, 04 June 2023, 19:45:07
That side profile is immaculate. I'd love to buy one of these. Thanks for ISO support!

Thanks aicyborg. Have a good day.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:21:53
Quote from: ResponsibleSpender on Mon, 05 June 2023, 20:10:18
I'm a lurker, but I had to come out and say this is beautiful.

thank you bless your day
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:22:38
Quote from: The0rigina1 on Tue, 06 June 2023, 02:35:02
Reverse keycult no3 giggle

thank you
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:22:56
Quote from: phinix on Tue, 06 June 2023, 04:50:33
$1000-1500? Are you nuts?

Yes.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Sat, 10 June 2023, 02:23:52
Quote from: Carcha on Tue, 06 June 2023, 05:20:13
Definitely following this closely. Very, very interesting board. Great job with the design, I hope it turns out just as gorgeous.

thank you. I've tested many other parts, but in the case of the keystroke sound, I plan to test it additionally through a reinforcement plate prototype.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 10 June 2023, 23:56:34
Interesting project (even though it's not for me, but not everything should be catered toward me XD)

1000 USD does seem steep, but considering the more complex design, the large amounts of copper and the low moq (Like 30moq) it seems like it's fine, but I'm not too well versed about machining and quoting so keep in mind of that.

GLWIC
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Tue, 13 June 2023, 07:40:48
Quote from: Rhienfo on Sat, 10 June 2023, 23:56:34
Interesting project (even though it's not for me, but not everything should be catered toward me XD)

1000 USD does seem steep, but considering the more complex design, the large amounts of copper and the low moq (Like 30moq) it seems like it's fine, but I'm not too well versed about machining and quoting so keep in mind of that.

GLWIC

 Thank you Rhienfo.
I am focusing on the design elements that stimulate the mind and the direction I pursue.

 We are aware that the della 960 has an high price point unlike regular keyboards.
This is because I did what I wanted without compromising a single thing in terms of price.

This will be the most satisfying keyboard for me.

 thank you and Have a good day.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: sketch3v on Tue, 13 June 2023, 09:40:28
$1500
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Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: tactilesbad on Wed, 14 June 2023, 09:55:36
yeah, no
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Thu, 15 June 2023, 19:34:10
Quote from: sketch3v on Tue, 13 June 2023, 09:40:28
$1500
Show Image
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thank you for your attention sketch3v. have a nice day.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL
Post by: DELLA KEY on Thu, 15 June 2023, 19:35:13
Quote from: tactilesbad on Wed, 14 June 2023, 09:55:36
yeah, no

Thank you for your continued interest tactilesbad.
Have a nice day :)
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)
Post by: DELLA KEY on Fri, 30 June 2023, 02:31:02
(30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)
Post by: aicyborg on Fri, 30 June 2023, 21:27:10
Honestly, if you end up somewhere near $1000 I'm in. If you end up around $1500 I'm probably out 'cos I can't afford that. Either way, that side is fantastic. I love your aesthetic. Really good stuff.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)
Post by: DELLA KEY on Mon, 03 July 2023, 04:52:56
Quote from: aicyborg on Fri, 30 June 2023, 21:27:10
Honestly, if you end up somewhere near $1000 I'm in. If you end up around $1500 I'm probably out 'cos I can't afford that. Either way, that side is fantastic. I love your aesthetic. Really good stuff.

Yes, thank you for your interest in our work.
We are working hard in many ways to not give up on the direction we are pursuing.
Everything is fantastic and we are preparing step by step.
Blessings in your future as well.
Thank you aicyborg.
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (14/07/2023 - PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)
Post by: DELLA KEY on Thu, 13 July 2023, 23:00:48
- 01/07/2023 Prototype Picture Update
- 14/07/2023 Prototype Picture Update
- Reflect build weight
Title: Re: Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (14/07/2023 - Prototype picture Update)
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 17 July 2023, 11:38:01
I do very much like the design, and I hope you can make MOQ : )