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Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 19:57:55
~Lightsaver V2 Group Buy~

(http://i.imgur.com/idv2qmX.jpg)
(http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/24781E425347EBDB15E425)
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/2604C0415347EBDD1D43F5)

ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QdzmQ55Nk5vgxn54fE2_ddJkfd3AKxvxhr8RweapogY/viewform)  <---- Click here to order

Included in this set:
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, gray, or red.
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T)
PCB presoldered with MX only support
Fixing bolts

Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX switches
Up to 12 Macro keys
Full LED and side LED compatible.  Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale.
There are only 30 units available

More information on this : here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0) - everything is the same as the previous version except the case as shown above. There are no real photos as they are not made yet.

Price:
Set: $295 USD
Duck Blockers (Silver or Black): $3.50 USD
Assembly Service: $70 USD

Shipping

Shipping will be from South Korea with EMS.  Shipping cost will depend on your location.  Each set weighs about --- kg with packaging, so you will be looking at row --- kg.Click here to check your zone (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53348.msg1191127#msg1191127) and Click here to check their updated prices (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300)

Notes

- Deadline for payment is June 6, 2014.
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline.
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
- I will send invoices through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified Paypal account to receive and pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be Paypal fees added to the price.
- If you want to make changes to your order, please send me a PM.
- I can only guarantee damages for 7 days from the day you receive the items.

ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QdzmQ55Nk5vgxn54fE2_ddJkfd3AKxvxhr8RweapogY/viewform)  <---- Click here to order

Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 19:58:49
Also assembly service is only $70 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering. 

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.

Click here to customize your order if you chose assembly as an option.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bNfp2IDxZSUid7v6SOlnol1BAgkt82n4DeK074dbd38/viewform


PCB and PLATE ORDER FORM
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vYfOccdByRCH9EAWr27utGfZy8_-dN2arkJLquCKLc4/viewform
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:27:26
I'm feeling tempted, but my wallet says no.  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:32:34
thanks elton :) are there any pics of the anodized gray by chance?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:46:40
Oooooooh man, I just don't know what color to get.......     :confused:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:49:40
Quote
There are only 15 units available

shieeetttt
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:52:12
Oooooooh man, I just don't know what color to get.......     :confused:

I feel yah. Can't decide between silver and red.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:55:49
Will we be able to add winkey blockers to our order?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 20:56:46
Oooooooh man, I just don't know what color to get.......     :confused:

I feel yah. Can't decide between silver and red.

I need to try to pick one that I have a keyset that matches it.  Or I could always buy another keyset...gahhh.

I want a color that matches WoB but isn't black.   :confused:   :rolleyes:   And I don't need another red kustom...   Would WoB go well with silver?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:07:01
Yay! Sherry flaked on my lightsaver, I'm glad this is happening.

Will we be able to add winkey blockers to our order?

edit: I'm also interested in the 1x blockers. How much would they be a piece if we can order them?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:14:54
Oooooooh man, I just don't know what color to get.......     :confused:

I feel yah. Can't decide between silver and red.

I need to try to pick one that I have a keyset that matches it.  Or I could always buy another keyset...gahhh.

I want a color that matches WoB but isn't black.   :confused:   :rolleyes:   And I don't need another red kustom...   Would WoB go well with silver?

Personally I think WoB only goes well with dark colored case.

Silver + classic beige
Red + RA
Black + Dolch/WoB

Those are the best combos IMO.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:16:46
I agree with yicaoyimiu

Also, the Cyrillic set from Originative (if you're willing to gamble) would look good with silver, red, or black.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:20:38
Thanks for confirming my fears, guys.  Maybe I'll just throw Irish dyesubs on this if I get silver. 

/me is leaning toward silver...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:21:41
I'm going with silver, gonna slap hyperfuse on it!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:22:12
Cyrillic would be sweet on red too...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:24:02
Cyrillic would be sweet on red too...

That would look so good.....too bad I'm not russian
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:27:39
Cyrillic would be sweet on red too...

My only Cyrillic set is Miami Odessa Limited.  Which would look sweet on silver, but not on red.  Another reason to get silver, you say?  Now to just submit the form...so much commitment...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:29:06
Hoffman living the hard life.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:29:23
Am I going to have the only gray order? lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:30:40
Cyrillic would be sweet on red too...

My only Cyrillic set is Miami Odessa Limited.  Which would look sweet on silver, but not on red.  Another reason to get silver, you say?  Now to just submit the form...so much commitment...

Everyone's doing it. Just give it a try!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:31:47
Am I going to have the only gray order? lol

If I had the $$$ I'd order grey, so don't feel totally left out lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:34:51
Everyone will be happy to know that I've submitted an order.  Whew.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:35:50
Everyone will be happy to know that I've submitted an order.  Whew.

Grabbing a drink in celebration and relief.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:36:41
Everyone will be happy to know that I've submitted an order.  Whew.

Grabbing a drink in celebration and relief.

Three steps ahead of you there.  ;) 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:38:55
There are pictures of the gray in the Orion thread.

About the blockers, I'm waiting for an answer

6/15 ordered so far :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:40:58
There are pictures of the gray in the Orion thread.

About the blockers, I'm waiting for an answer

6/15 ordered so far :)

In addition to the other requests, I'd also be interested in blockers.  :)

Woo, great progress so far!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:41:05
There are pictures of the gray in the Orion thread.

Cool! thanks :)

If I had the $$$ I'd order grey, so don't feel totally left out lol

Right on TS, yea, would be nice if I could see a pic of it to be sure, but gray is gray..amirite? :) I might be putting my cat and dog in the Classifieds to pay for it, food included! :P
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Mon, 07 April 2014, 21:58:51
In for gray. Or red. Well, I ordered grey but I think I wish I could get a red one too :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:09:27
Any comments about how the typing experience is on these from folks who got the R1 board?

Do the keys feel crowded at all?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:11:48
Any comments about how the typing experience is on these from folks who got the R1 board?

Do the keys feel crowded at all?

All I know is that it's one of Photoelectric's favourite boards.  But I'll let her comment further when she gets the chance.  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:22:17
PCB only possible.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:25:44
PCB only possible.

Separate orders for PCBs and plates are not possible in this group buy, sorry.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: moogle on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:39:13
will duck be offering assembly?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:40:45
Oh yeah, forgot about that. For those who already filled in the form, if you want assembly, PM me. I'll add an option in the form for assembly and see if there are enough interest.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:48:40
Only 15!?!?!  Did I make it in?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:52:40
Any comments about how the typing experience is on these from folks who got the R1 board?

Do the keys feel crowded at all?

All I know is that it's one of Photoelectric's favourite boards.  But I'll let them comment further when they get the chance.  :)
I am using mine daily on my PC, it's in hardware dvorak with blank cherry POM off a DAS II and white backlighting. I will be changing the side LEDs to white as well.

really loving it. It's even got the stainless steel plate which is the best for backlighting (shiny) as well as being awesome. I can't photograph LEDs with my phone camera, but I can take some pictures anyway if you like.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Mon, 07 April 2014, 22:58:16
I ordered my grey one. Hope I made it in on this buy!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:09:56
Yes, you all made it. 10/15 :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:10:42
Yes, you all made it. 10/15 :)

Wow, this is going very quick!  I like that.  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:12:01
Who is doing the assembly, Duck?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:18:57
Oh god, why did I buy that Clack? If I saw this a few days ago..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:28:59
Oh god, why did I buy that Clack? If I saw this a few days ago..

Sell your clack to me. Easy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:30:26
Oh god, why did I buy that Clack? If I saw this a few days ago..

Sell your clack to me. Easy.

$300 shipped, no problem. I'll even throw in some gold foil.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:31:53
Oh god, why did I buy that Clack? If I saw this a few days ago..

Sell your clack to me. Easy.

$300 shipped, no problem. I'll even throw in some gold foil.

$300 for a mint gum is a steal... I think I should stop going off-topic. :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cannonking on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:42:19
"Interested in assembly service option? *
It's about $70-$80 includes switches, soldering, LEDs, stabilizers, rubric"

Forgive my noobiness, I'm new to this. So for ~$380 + shipping I'll have a complete KB without having to do any hardware assembly myself?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:43:39
Please tell me I made it :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 April 2014, 23:43:56
"Interested in assembly service option? *
It's about $70-$80 includes switches, soldering, LEDs, stabilizers, rubric"

Forgive my noobiness, I'm new to this. So for ~$380 + shipping I'll have a complete KB without having to do any hardware assembly myself?

Yes, although I think he's still waiting to confirm the assembly portion. And no keycaps are included.
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 00:08:07
2 members PMd me about wanting this before I opened this thread, so I'll try to reserve them each a unit.

2 spots left I guess
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 00:12:07
YAY!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Tue, 08 April 2014, 00:14:10
order submitted
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 00:16:02
Just so you know, these won't be shipped for at least 1-2 months from now. I also won't invoice until at least at the end of April


All spots are taken now. Anyone after dragonken besides those 2 I reserved for orders will be on hold. If they don't order it'll go to the first 2.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Tue, 08 April 2014, 00:27:12
I am the 15th.  ;D

Thanks Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 01:44:36
I would take up one of the spots if either of them two is not ordering  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 08 April 2014, 02:05:56
Dayum, didn't think it'd go this fast compared to the orion gb
Guess a $100 difference does that :P
You're all so lucky :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 08 April 2014, 03:34:11
Just so you know, these won't be shipped for at least 1-2 months from now. I also won't invoice until at least at the end of April


All spots are taken now. Anyone after dragonken besides those 2 I reserved for orders will be on hold. If they don't order it'll go to the first 2.


I would take up one of the spots if either of them two is not ordering  ;D


Can I have the second slot?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:21:41
Sherryton wouldn't take my money on the first LightSaver buy, and now it looks like I'm too late for this one :(

I placed an order anyways just in case. If it doesn't come through there is always LZ-MX FE  ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ebacho on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:26:06
Sherryton wouldn't take my money on the first LightSaver buy, and now it looks like I'm too late for this one :(

I placed an order anyways just in case. If it doesn't come through there is always LZ-MX FE  ;)

...There's going to be a FE version of the LZ-MX? My wallet...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:28:04
Put me in the waiting line please
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:29:37
Fill in the order form so it's easier for me to track
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:50:14
Form filled!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:35:24
Let me know if someone is cancelled I was waiting for this board..
GB to fast. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:37:11
elton, any reason why only 15 orders?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:47:11
elton, any reason why only 15 orders?

I'm so happy. <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 14:05:06
elton, any reason why only 15 orders?

I think they only have 15 PCBs left?

If you want ALPS 60%, they have Duck Mini V2 leftovers for sale...http://duck0113.tistory.com/89
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Tue, 08 April 2014, 14:58:30
elton, any reason why only 15 orders?

I think they only have 15 PCBs left?

If you want ALPS 60%, they have Duck Mini V2 leftovers for sale...http://duck0113.tistory.com/89

How to get one?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:04:21
wew v2 sold very fast... Let me know if someone cancel  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:06:23
Man, I wish I could get a hold of the acrylic pieces that go in the housing.  I know some people have had them made just for them.

Anyway, I already have some switches and stabilizers on the way for when this gets to me.  Yay!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:09:49
How are we doing on possible assembly service, elton?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:10:20
Let me know about the assembly, as I can get it assembled here if interest isn't high enough just need to know so I can order my switches.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:23:30
I'm just trying to hold out for the Viper.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:30:17
After showing them the amount of interest, they might make more....
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:31:59
After showing them the amount of interest, they might make more....

They totally should
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:56:56
I would guess there's quite a bit of latent demand for the TK layout.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:03:45
Let me know about the assembly, as I can get it assembled here if interest isn't high enough just need to know so I can order my switches.

I think the assembly price is quite good as it includes switches.  The switches themselves will cost you around $50 already.

I'm still waiting for some answers.


If you want one, just fill in the form and that'll let them know whether they're willing to make more ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:28:21
the assembly price is good i think...
submitted the form hope they make more...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:04:24
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Also assembly service is only $65 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering.  <---Very good price.

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:22:43
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Are the blockers 1unit pieces only?  Also, how do they attach?  Do they fit into the plate to secure them?  Are there any pictures that show this in some detail?  So many questions.   :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:25:51
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Are the blockers 1unit pieces only?  Also, how do they attach?  Do they fit into the plate to secure them?  Are there any pictures that show this in some detail?  So many questions.   :p

They're 1x pieces. They should be screwed onto the PCB from the switch holes

(http://kbd4u.com/web/product/big/kbd4u_20.JPG)


You have no idea how many questions I ask True Customs for you guys then. LOL
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:26:55
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Are the blockers 1unit pieces only?  Also, how do they attach?  Do they fit into the plate to secure them?  Are there any pictures that show this in some detail?  So many questions.   :p

They're 1x pieces. They should be screwed onto the PCB from the switch holes

Show Image
(http://kbd4u.com/web/product/big/kbd4u_20.JPG)


are the screws included in the $3.50 and if not what measure do we need?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ryptide11 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:33:01
I would be interested if you can get more than 15!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:33:51
I'll probably add some blockers pending the assembly options, if they're any? thanks elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:35:32
I'll get back with an answer for the screws.  For my KMAC happy, it uses a tiny screw with 2 plastic washers between the PCB.


Assembly service information is 4 posts above
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:35:38
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Also assembly service is only $65 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering.  <---Very good price.

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.

psst, I heard kmiller8 is assembling at half that price.
Edit: Well OK, I guess he can't assemble 10 Lightsavers, but I think some people should put his service to good use.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:37:00
I would be interested if you can get more than 15!

Fill out the order form so Elton has an accurate count.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:37:56
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Also assembly service is only $65 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering.  <---Very good price.

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.

psst, I heard kmiller8 is assembling at half that price.
Edit: Well OK, I guess he can't assemble 10 Lightsavers, but I think some people should put his service to good use.

I doubt he is including free switches and stickers with his service..

Also the blockers includes screws
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:38:48
Assembly service information is 4 posts above

I'm definitely in for assembly! I guess what I meant was if there is a place where a switch will not be soldered, that's where a blocker would be installed.

The amount of blockers I'll need to purchase will depend on the desired switch layout. Will we have this option or will every switch socket have a switch soldered into it? thanks again!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:42:26
Also the blockers includes screws

Sweet. Thanks Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:43:48
I guess you will have to tell me the layout you want and where you want your switches.

This will get a bit tedious...lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:47:23
The blockers are available at $3.50 per piece.  Only silver is available though, but if there are more than 100 orders, only black blockers can be added.

If you want them and have ordered already, let me know how many blockers you want.

Are the blockers 1unit pieces only?  Also, how do they attach?  Do they fit into the plate to secure them?  Are there any pictures that show this in some detail?  So many questions.   :p

They're 1x pieces. They should be screwed onto the PCB from the switch holes

Show Image
(http://kbd4u.com/web/product/big/kbd4u_20.JPG)



You have no idea how many questions I ask True Customs for you guys then. LOL

Thank you! That's great.  :)  I would like 4 of them, please.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:53:46
Is it possible to order only the blockers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 08 April 2014, 20:56:05
I guess you will have to tell me the layout you want and where you want your switches.

This will get a bit tedious...lol

What do you think about revising the Google form to provide an option for the layouts from this pic?

(http://www.kbd4u.com/web/images/l-4.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:25:38
I guess you can order blockers by itself since the previous buy didn't pull through with them.

There is going to be an order template for the assembly service, thankfully.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 08 April 2014, 21:27:29
There is going to be an order template for the assembly service, thankfully.

Right on, I was just going to bring up led's also, lol. Thanks for all your work Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 09 April 2014, 05:54:20
Also assembly service is only $70 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering. 

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.

Hi,

Will they provide MX Clear option with additional charge?

Regards,
Ken
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 09 April 2014, 07:40:32
Also assembly service is only $70 and it includes switches, LEDs, soldering, stabilizers, and lubing and stickering. 

Switches included are MX Red, Brown, Blue, and Black.

Hi,

Will they provide MX Clear option with additional charge?

Regards,
Ken

I would also like this, and the assembly price is a good option just wanted to know if I had to put extra in, also going to PM you if it's ok to change my mind about the colour. :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:18:47
I'm feeling tempted, but my wallet says no.  :(

I'm in the same boat. Girlfriend is getting on my case...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:21:13
Awaiting answers for using alternative switches and if you can ship them your own.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 09 April 2014, 09:23:46
I'm feeling tempted, but my wallet says no.  :(

I'm in the same boat. Girlfriend is getting on my case...

I hid the money away, and didn't tell her the price of the keyboard. :P
Awaiting answers for using alternative switches and if you can ship them your own.

Glad to hear, as I wanted to use clear switches for this board.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 11:37:27
I jumped in a little too late, I fear!  Really hope more can be produced!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:37:24
Oh my god - what the heck... I really cant believe I missed this.. I waited so long for this.... Submitted and praying for a miracle
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 14:14:58
Little update for you all who wanted switches other than what are offered.

They can't get MX White or MX Clears or other hard to obtain switches.  They also can't take your switches.  It'll take too long and the process will be complicated..

Sorry..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 09 April 2014, 14:50:47
Little update for you all who wanted switches other than what are offered.

They can't get MX White or MX Clears or other hard to obtain switches.  They also can't take your switches.  It'll take too long and the process will be complicated..

Sorry..

That's fine, the brown switches will due, just let me know total price. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 09 April 2014, 15:58:42
No problem, thanks for asking them Elton. So will our desired switch type be on the assembly form?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 09 April 2014, 20:47:28
I can build one with someones own switches if they would like. I can't do everyones at once, but I'll do one at a discount and decide where to go from there. Send me a PM if interested.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 April 2014, 20:48:16
I can build one with someones own switches if they would like. I can't do everyones at once, but I'll do one at a discount and decide where to go from there. Send me a PM if interested.

I can also offer my services for assembly.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 22:04:17
I'll let you guys know whether they decide to produce more than 15 units next week..

Meanwhile you guys can still fill in the form to order one. :)

digi: Only switch types they offer are MX Red, Blue, Brown, and Black.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 April 2014, 22:33:26
This **** went fast o-O

Also if we're plugging assembly service I'm good for Canadians ^_^
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:19:40
My ass-embly brings all the geeks to the yard
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:23:20
That competition.  At least bring your rates out while you're at it ;)

Oh, just FYI, there are about 28 orders atm...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:30:55
Cheaper than what it'll cost to get it assembled + shipped from America if you're Canadian :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 23:33:13
Cheaper than what it'll cost to get it assembled + shipped from America if you're Canadian :D

I thought you want one?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 10 April 2014, 07:45:55
I may opt out for assembling but I'll wait until there's more of a final for everything, as I do want the clears, but I'll wait and see how I feel. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:10:46
Can this be ordered without switches?  Assuming there will be 15 more?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:21:59
My understanding is the default order doesn't include switches unless you get assembly service. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: skcheng on Thu, 10 April 2014, 08:26:33
My understanding is the default order doesn't include switches unless you get assembly service. 

I should learn to read.   Dohhh!!   Thx.   
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 10 April 2014, 15:25:33
Cheaper than what it'll cost to get it assembled + shipped from America if you're Canadian :D

I thought you want one?

Can't afford anymore, thought it was closed anyway.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 10 April 2014, 16:04:00
Read the thread...lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 10 April 2014, 16:11:06
Read the thread...lol

Ye I did, it's fine :P No sky blue anyway and again can't afford right now fml T_T maybe later
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 10 April 2014, 16:26:25
Read the thread...lol

Ye I did, it's fine :P No sky blue anyway and again can't afford right now fml T_T maybe later

I thought you just won some SC2 tourney??!?! You should be breaded! :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 10 April 2014, 17:05:51

Read the thread...lol

Ye I did, it's fine :P No sky blue anyway and again can't afford right now fml T_T maybe later

I thought you just won some SC2 tourney??!?! You should be breaded! :D

Ha!  Breaded... Good term...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 10 April 2014, 17:07:21


Read the thread...lol

Ye I did, it's fine :P No sky blue anyway and again can't afford right now fml T_T maybe later

I thought you just won some SC2 tourney??!?! You should be breaded! :D

Ha!  Breaded... Good term...

It should be breadWINNING
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 12:03:17
Looks like the prototype has just been made :)

http://duck0113.tistory.com/90
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sat, 12 April 2014, 12:25:41
Looks like the prototype has just been made :)

http://duck0113.tistory.com/90

Sweeeet. Can't wait  :eek:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 13:09:53
elton, do you mind to run VIBER & EAGER GB?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 13:15:12
I'm doing it after this group buy

The Eagle and Viper won't be ready until May anyways. Or maybe longer if they decide to produce more lightsavers...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sat, 12 April 2014, 13:34:59
elton, thank you for fast responding. I need to prepare cash from now :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Sat, 12 April 2014, 15:47:41
Looks like the prototype has just been made :)

http://duck0113.tistory.com/90

I want it so badly. <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 12 April 2014, 17:12:34
I'm doing it after this group buy

The Eagle and Viper won't be ready until May anyways. Or maybe longer if they decide to produce more lightsavers...

Just a liiiittle more time to save money.  ;)   That's good.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 12 April 2014, 23:42:00
I'm doing it after this group buy

The Eagle and Viper won't be ready until May anyways. Or maybe longer if they decide to produce more lightsavers...
One at a time is enough to make me broke... :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 13 April 2014, 00:02:01
Looks like the prototype has just been made :)

http://duck0113.tistory.com/90

Damn that looks nice in raw aluminum.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 12:53:02
Some news..

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready.  Around end of May.

It'll support more layout options.  Also the 15 limit has been increased to 30.  Actually I have 30 sets ordered right now. :D Perfect if you guys plan on staying in.

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/186/191/27e3c7920d7891afd5f98318c8ae2c3c.jpg)

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/186/191/dc6efe06220508372d2ccf574b3ad870.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 14 April 2014, 12:58:55
Some news..

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready.  Around end of May.

It'll support more layout options.  Also the 15 limit has been increased to 30.  Actually I have 30 sets ordered right now. :D Perfect if you guys plan on staying in.

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/934/189/29656160ae3c1cf3dbeb1040c7ba97db.jpg)


Dang, that's nice.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Mon, 14 April 2014, 13:53:50
Some news..

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready.  Around end of May.

It'll support more layout options.  Also the 15 limit has been increased to 30.  Actually I have 30 sets ordered right now. :D Perfect if you guys plan on staying in.

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/934/189/29656160ae3c1cf3dbeb1040c7ba97db.jpg)


My perfect layout
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:07:53
My perfect layout

Same here. Looks better than 1800 layout which is currently my second favorite layout to 75% (MX Mini). Will payment be through an invoice received via PayPal?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:35:03
Some news..

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready.  Around end of May.

It'll support more layout options.  Also the 15 limit has been increased to 30.  Actually I have 30 sets ordered right now. :D Perfect if you guys plan on staying in.

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/934/189/29656160ae3c1cf3dbeb1040c7ba97db.jpg)


Sexy, now just got to find a good set of key caps for this bad boy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 14 April 2014, 14:37:40
now make a case like this for the ergodox!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ryptide11 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 15:11:14
NICE! I am still in!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 14 April 2014, 18:24:49
There are 20 sets from US..do you guys want a proxy?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 April 2014, 18:30:04
There are 20 sets from US..do you guys want a proxy?

That might be nice, and I'd be happy to help out depending on when these get in.  I'll be moving near the end of May / beginning of June.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 14 April 2014, 20:20:30
I may need to change my address too depending on when these ship.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:18:21
I know it's a dumb question. Can we swap the springs after soldering the switches to the pcb board? Do we have to desolder it?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:21:35
I know it's a dumb question. Can we swap the springs after soldering the switches to the pcb board? Do we have to desolder it?

I am pretty sure these, like most Korean plates besides LZ, will require you to desolder.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:38:11
LightSaver plates don't allow easy switch removal.  Also means you have to insert them fully assembled too, prior to soldering.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:39:14
Could you file down the plates?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:47:33
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Just find originative is selling light saver. but it's ver 1(seems) and more expensive than this gb.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:48:59
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Just find originative is selling light saver. but it's ver 1(seems) and more expensive than this gb.

Those are left-overs from the group buy (I know some people cancelled their orders).  Not surprising that they are more expensive, since Originative is an actual for-profit store.  I like the v1 case design more myself :)  I suspect it also has more aluminum by weight.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 14 April 2014, 22:50:42
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Just find originative is selling light saver. but it's ver 1(seems) and more expensive than this gb.

Originative is also not exactly super reliable. this thread has more information but spending that kind of money with them is very much a buyer beware situation (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55955.0)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 15 April 2014, 03:21:14
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Just find originative is selling light saver. but it's ver 1(seems) and more expensive than this gb.

Originative is also not exactly super reliable. this thread has more information but spending that kind of money with them is very much a buyer beware situation (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55955.0)

I ordered one from them a couple of days ago and it shipped within a day with tracking. So just my 5 cents that it seems to be functioning at the moment. But yeah, more expensive and V1... sadly  this GB ended so damn quickly.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 15 April 2014, 09:26:12
I may need to change my address too depending on when these ship.

This is also true for me I may need to ship it to a more reliable address just wondering when we pay if we can reconfirm shipping address? Might be moving into my new condo within a month, or it could be delayed. x.x
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:00:02
Of course you can
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:41:41
Some news..

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready.  Around end of May.

It'll support more layout options.  Also the 15 limit has been increased to 30.  Actually I have 30 sets ordered right now. :D Perfect if you guys plan on staying in.

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/186/191/27e3c7920d7891afd5f98318c8ae2c3c.jpg)


Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/288/186/191/dc6efe06220508372d2ccf574b3ad870.jpg)


This layout is good and a classic cheap G80-1800 keycap set is perfect fit.

Here is my plan.
(http://i.imgur.com/sivqE9F.jpg)

(http://www4.plala.or.jp/ysgclub/pict%20key/G80-1800b.jpg)

(Sorry for my bad cut and paste drawing.)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:49:34
That's nice. Where can I get that keyboard for cheap?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Tue, 15 April 2014, 10:57:47
Quote
That's nice. Where can I get that keyboard for cheap?

Many classic beige 1800 keycaps from taobao price at around 200 - 300 CNY. Some sets are very good in condition but it depends on luck.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 15 April 2014, 11:10:59
Well if someone drops out, I would love to pickup one of those spots!!!
That layout is freaking perfect!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:09:01
There's  a few that wants in as well. We will see when the time comes.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:22:44
There's  a few that wants in as well. We will see when the time comes.
Thanks Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:23:21
I like the winkeyless 1800 layout.  Still no chance for pcb only?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:25:06
Probably I will go with the granite set(the gb Matt3o held at sp), coz that's the only set that I can find that comes with colemak layout and kits for different layout options. But it's so expansive for 1 set with lots of kits, costs me more than $180...I haven't even purchased sip sockets, switches, springs, lube kit, leds, usb cable. My wallet is going to cry. :confused:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:57:52
I'm dying to try Round 5 keys on this (all black on all black), so I'll let you know in about a year or two once everything arrives :/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:33:16
I'm dying to try Round 5 keys on this (all black on all black), so I'll let you know in about a year or two once everything arrives :/

Something like this?

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53942.0;attach=57353;image)

Yeah, no PCB only orders..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Tue, 15 April 2014, 13:55:13

Yeah, no PCB only orders..
Figured.  Was fence sitting until the 1800 layout dropped.  Probably too late to the party though.  Ah well.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:26:22
Did I make that 20 from the US? Hope so, this look amazing. I presume we can still use the other non-8100 layout.

Has anyone asked him if he'd consider modifying the plate design to allow switch removal or better yet do it for him? Not a show-stopper though.

I could help with proxying orders but after the Phantom situation I'd only want mine proxied if we have full confidence the person doing it is going to follow through.

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:54:05
I'm dying to try Round 5 keys on this (all black on all black), so I'll let you know in about a year or two once everything arrives :/

Something like this?

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53942.0;attach=57353;image)


Yeah, no PCB only orders..

Yes but with SA caps.  Great pic, btw.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:01:18
Here's the list of who made it so far.

digi
nuclearsandwich
codyeatworld
tadbitnerdy
HoffmanMyster
cultofjosh
Kfactork
cphead
ninjadoc
Jokrik
Derange
dragonken
kennyk64
Ronnn
danielucf
Lastpilot
Cirrus82
geniekid
HendyZone
pasph
Zombly
jufa
Crabby_B
sakai4eva
ryptide11
witbliz
trizkut
damieng
elton5354
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 15 April 2014, 17:18:36
I will say, I like the original case better.  I like the smooth sides rather than the stepped sides.  However, I'm not paying sherry anything, and I still like the new version.  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Tue, 15 April 2014, 18:50:11
Well, I put in for one anyway.  No big loss for my wallet if I didn't make it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 15 April 2014, 19:37:36
It's too bad there's no option for a flat case...but still glad I got in :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: argcargv on Tue, 15 April 2014, 20:00:28
The new layout is very tempting...
TLK size with full size keyboard functions?  :eek:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 16 April 2014, 00:23:19
WTB just the new PCB (and plate) if possible!

I plan on using it with standoffs flat on a desk.
It's too bad there's no option for a flat case...but still glad I got in :p


See above: problem solved!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 16 April 2014, 01:23:05
Did I make that 20 from the US? Hope so, this look amazing. I presume we can still use the other non-8100 layout.

Has anyone asked him if he'd consider modifying the plate design to allow switch removal or better yet do it for him? Not a show-stopper though.

I could help with proxying orders but after the Phantom situation I'd only want mine proxied if we have full confidence the person doing it is going to follow through.

[)amien

I'd help you pack and ship 'em Damien, or you can help me.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 16 April 2014, 08:22:13
WTB just the new PCB (and plate) if possible!

I plan on using it with standoffs flat on a desk.
It's too bad there's no option for a flat case...but still glad I got in :p


See above: problem solved!

I don't understand the proposed solution...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 16 April 2014, 09:28:51
I guess it's too late to join now anyway, but I'll keep an eye on this thread and see if others cancel their order :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 16 April 2014, 09:31:50
WTB just the new PCB (and plate) if possible!

I plan on using it with standoffs flat on a desk.
It's too bad there's no option for a flat case...but still glad I got in :p


See above: problem solved!

I don't understand the proposed solution...

The proposed solution was to use the pcb and plate bare, without a case. Which isn't a very satisfying solution for some folks. I also believe the reply was comedic, but who knows.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Wed, 16 April 2014, 11:56:16
That 1800 layout is really cool. I'm tempted to try it but windows-E windows-R and windows-B (as of windows 8 ) are some of my most common keystrokes. Maybe I can try moving left control to caps lock and use that control as a winkey.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 16 April 2014, 12:01:47
Maybe I can try moving left control to caps lock and use that control as a winkey.

That's what I do with my winkeyless boards. I call it the "soft spoken" layout since there's no caps lock key at all.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 16 April 2014, 14:27:46
Does anyone know if the lightsaver has the option for 1.25 mods?

*edit, answered my own question, the answer is yes after looking at the layout pic again.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Wed, 16 April 2014, 14:55:11
Maybe I can try moving left control to caps lock and use that control as a winkey.

That's what I do with my winkeyless boards. I call it the "soft spoken" layout since there's no caps lock key at all.

Hah! I like that description.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:14:56
Any chance for only buying the pcb? Plan to just replace old pcb to try new layout and use back the casing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:15:39
Any chance for only buying the pcb? Plan to just replace old pcb to try new layout and use back the casing.

Yeah, no PCB only orders..

Unfortunately :(

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Wed, 16 April 2014, 22:20:47
Maximum order quantity extension v2? :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 07:02:47
elton

The PCB of light saver v2 can use for light saver v1 keyboard???
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 17 April 2014, 07:36:04
Maximum order quantity extension v2? :D
I'm hoping for the same  ^-^
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:16:46
Hey, maybe people will jump off to get the v1 from sherry's site?  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:23:51
Hey, maybe people will jump off to get the v1 from sherry's site?  :p

And risk orders with missing stuff with no communication? :))
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Thu, 17 April 2014, 15:39:20
Hey, maybe people will jump off to get the v1 from sherry's site?  :p
And risk orders with missing stuff with no communication? :))
Seriously, I would have bought a bunch of stuff from originative if not for the lack of communication  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: NikoGasm on Thu, 17 April 2014, 21:44:31
Edit: Read back and noticed orders are already capped.  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:23:49
Here is the form for the assembly options.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bNfp2IDxZSUid7v6SOlnol1BAgkt82n4DeK074dbd38/viewform

It's on the first page as well.

The default colour for switch stickers is purple
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:49:23
Here is the form for the assembly options.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bNfp2IDxZSUid7v6SOlnol1BAgkt82n4DeK074dbd38/viewform

It's on the first page as well.

The default colour for switch stickers is purple

should we complete the form now?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:57:31
Prices?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:57:59
Here is the form for the assembly options.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bNfp2IDxZSUid7v6SOlnol1BAgkt82n4DeK074dbd38/viewform

It's on the first page as well.

The default colour for switch stickers is purple

Shouldn't there be a numpad option with 2u "+" and 2u "Enter" key on the right side?

Like in this picture:

(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/2604C0415347EBDD1D43F5)

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:02:11
You'd have to choose numpad option 2 (b) and numpad option 3 (b)

Price is in OP, $70.  You can fill in the form if you want assembly and is in the 30 list.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:03:13
How much for swapping springs?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:06:26
thanks elton, so for the led layout and it says to send a pic to you or duck? or can there be a place to add an attachment to the form and we just upload it directly to the form?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:06:35
$8 for spring swapping.

I'm not sure if you can attach a picture on the form? If you know how, let me know..otherwise upload a picture and put the link in the text box
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:09:12
otherwise upload a picture and put the link in the text box

i'll do that, thanks :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:10:24
I just filled out both forms in case someone drops out.

I can't believe I missed the start of this GB, because I was on the road for two weeks and only superficially checked Geekhacked on my Smartphone :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:16:19
by selecting the led color, does that mean they will install leds on every switch?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:20:45
I guess so otherwise if you want customized LED positions, there's that part there.  $10 extra though...:O
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 14:02:06
I really wish clear switches were an option, lol. Still debating switch type, ugh.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sat, 19 April 2014, 14:19:54
If we choose custom LED options can we get more colors than white, blue, and red?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 14:42:22
Elton, do you know what the spring options are? Any chance we can get 60g gold springs?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 15:26:26
You can get more colours for custom LED option.  Just provide a picture for us.

Available are 50g and 62g.  For others, he'll have to check for availability
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:19:54
Hey Elton, can I use this layout(space row: 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x)? This layout can let me keep left win key and arrow keys. I didn't see this in the form, so I just want to confirm .
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:35:52
Just curious, did duck help design the kmacs?

I also might be offering assembly for a couple boards (conus), let me know if anyone is interested.
I'll probably be getting some clears and stocking up on more leds/resistors.

Also, Margo from CTRL ALT can assemble if your outside conus.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:54:30
Elton can you please tell me what color i have choosen?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 18:25:36
Hey Elton, can I use this layout(space row: 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x)? This layout can let me keep left win key and arrow keys. I didn't see this in the form, so I just want to confirm .

I don't think you can get that layout as each side should equal..

Elton can you please tell me what color i have choosen?

Black case

Just curious, did duck help design the kmacs?



Probably helped with the PCB?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 18:40:03
But you can still do the 1.25x1.25x1.25 6.25 1.25x1.25x1.25x1.25 option and keep the 1800/arrow key layout tho, right? It should be the same length as both 7x options.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 18:47:01
you are right.. sorry.

That template was given to me, so I think that's the limit of the layouts you can do..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:02:53
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:09:43
So by custom LED, does that also include customizing the side SMD LED?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:09:50
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Think of it as a chance to try ergo clears..
Unless you already have Browns, then no comments.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:13:13
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Think of it as a chance to try ergo clears..
Unless you already have Browns, then no comments.

wat. Are you saying browns=ergo clears?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:13:28
Elton, would it be possible to follow up with Duck and find out what it would take to get clear switches as an option please? <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:24:04
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Think of it as a chance to try ergo clears..
Unless you already have Browns, then no comments.
wat. Are you saying browns=ergo clears?
Nope. I was merely thinking along the lines of the non-clicky tactile switch category.
Don't they feel similar except for the spring weight? That's my experience with Black/Red and Blue/Green.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:45:43
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Think of it as a chance to try ergo clears..
Unless you already have Browns, then no comments.
wat. Are you saying browns=ergo clears?

Nope. I was merely thinking along the lines of the non-clicky tactile switch category.
Don't they feel similar except for the spring weight? That's my experience with Black/Red and Blue/Green.

Woaaaahh. You're missing out if you've never tried ergo clears. They are not alike at all. Clear bump is so much more satisfying than that brown scratchyness.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 19 April 2014, 20:49:09
I am still thinking to join the assembly service or not... Sad that no mx clear option.
Think of it as a chance to try ergo clears..
Unless you already have Browns, then no comments.
wat. Are you saying browns=ergo clears?
Nope. I was merely thinking along the lines of the non-clicky tactile switch category.
Don't they feel similar except for the spring weight? That's my experience with Black/Red and Blue/Green.

lolnope

bigger bump, and different spring constant k
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 21:51:47
Hmm now I'm curious about ergo clear. ::)  Is the bump more noticeable than blue? I didn't want brown because people say it's scratchy red and I don't like it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:09:49
Hmm now I'm curious about ergo clear. ::)  Is the bump more noticeable than blue? I didn't want brown because people say it's scratchy red and I don't like it.

The ergo clear is really different from the blues. Blues are clicky but ergo clears are tactiles. If you're looking for a tactile keyboard you should definitely give the ergo clears a try, they're usually the preferred MX tactile switch.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:14:15
Hmm now I'm curious about ergo clear. ::)  Is the bump more noticeable than blue? I didn't want brown because people say it's scratchy red and I don't like it.
The ergo clear is really different from the blues. Blues are clicky but ergo clears are tactiles. If you're looking for a tactile keyboard you should definitely give the ergo clears a try, they're usually the preferred MX tactile switch.
Oh I understand that the clears are non-clicky & tactile. I'm not exactly sure what they feel like though; like if you never tried Topre how would you know what you are missing kind-of-thing y'know? My impression is they the bump is similar or greater than blues, and a larger activation / bottom out force.
Maybe I really should get some and try for myself.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:20:15
Hmm now I'm curious about ergo clear. ::)  Is the bump more noticeable than blue? I didn't want brown because people say it's scratchy red and I don't like it.
The ergo clear is really different from the blues. Blues are clicky but ergo clears are tactiles. If you're looking for a tactile keyboard you should definitely give the ergo clears a try, they're usually the preferred MX tactile switch.
Oh I understand that the clears are non-clicky & tactile. I'm not exactly sure what they feel like though; like if you never tried Topre how would you know what you are missing kind-of-thing y'know? My impression is they the bump is similar or greater than blues, and a larger activation / bottom out force.
Maybe I really should get some and try for myself.

I see what you're trying to say. I say that the point of resistance for the click on the blues is very pronounced, whereas it's a bit more gradual for tactile switches. A bump, like I said previously. The resistance on MX switches right before the point of actuation (so the click/tactile part of the switch) is snappier than Topre. Topre feels more smooth and gradual, but super tactile at the same time. You're are missing out if you haven't tried a good tactile switch yet :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:30:43
Hmm now I'm curious about ergo clear. ::)  Is the bump more noticeable than blue? I didn't want brown because people say it's scratchy red and I don't like it.
The ergo clear is really different from the blues. Blues are clicky but ergo clears are tactiles. If you're looking for a tactile keyboard you should definitely give the ergo clears a try, they're usually the preferred MX tactile switch.
Oh I understand that the clears are non-clicky & tactile. I'm not exactly sure what they feel like though; like if you never tried Topre how would you know what you are missing kind-of-thing y'know? My impression is they the bump is similar or greater than blues, and a larger activation / bottom out force.
Maybe I really should get some and try for myself.

I see what you're trying to say. I say that the point of resistance for the click on the blues is very pronounced, whereas it's a bit more gradual for tactile switches. A bump, like I said previously. The resistance on MX switches right before the point of actuation (so the click/tactile part of the switch) is snappier than Topre. Topre feels more smooth and gradual, but super tactile at the same time. You're are missing out if you haven't tried a good tactile switch yet :p
Well that's it then! My next board will be ergo clear.
Hopefully duck will add the clear switch option.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:38:42
You shouldn't count on it. I think that the best option for you is to send it to someone in the US to assemble the keyboard, and then send them clears, springs, and lube as well. You can buy clears and springs off of mechanicalkeyboards.com
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 19 April 2014, 22:39:26
You shouldn't count on it. I think that the best option for you is to send it to someone in the US to assemble the keyboard, and then send them clears, springs, and lube as well. You can buy clears and springs off of mechanicalkeyboards.com

mk has springs??? shieetttt
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 19 April 2014, 23:45:50
You shouldn't count on it. I think that the best option for you is to send it to someone in the US to assemble the keyboard, and then send them clears, springs, and lube as well. You can buy clears and springs off of mechanicalkeyboards.com
I should just hold off on filling in the form then. We are still some time away from the actual deadline so I have time to save up a little. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 20 April 2014, 00:19:09
You shouldn't count on it. I think that the best option for you is to send it to someone in the US to assemble the keyboard, and then send them clears, springs, and lube as well. You can buy clears and springs off of mechanicalkeyboards.com

mk has springs??? shieetttt

Whoops. Meant lube. Sorry to get your hopes up lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ranker on Sun, 20 April 2014, 09:41:41
Are these 15 units sold out?  If not, I would like to place an order. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 20 April 2014, 09:53:40
Are these 15 units sold out?  If not, I would like to place an order.

It was increased to 30 units, but these are sold out as well :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Sun, 20 April 2014, 11:06:38
So much customization possibilities ! I spent 2 hours thinking of what switches , leds and keymapping and I still cant confirm the layout and final form..

I am wondering of those who have submitted the form - what pro / cons are there in your design choice and the reason behind the choice of layout.

Elton is there a way to view the polls / what everybody is choosing for their final lightsaver ?

If i order those duck blockers - would that mean there is no mx switch there ? or is it placed on top of it and just restricting the switch from being pressed ?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 11:10:56
There's only 2 that submitted so far. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dGpBUFV5eXBMNVVIRjRGcE8zUElld3c&usp=sharing

If there is a blocker, there can't be a switch there since the blocker uses the switch hole to stay in place.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 20 April 2014, 11:14:42
You shouldn't count on it. I think that the best option for you is to send it to someone in the US to assemble the keyboard, and then send them clears, springs, and lube as well. You can buy clears and springs off of mechanicalkeyboards.com

mk has springs??? shieetttt

Whoops. Meant lube. Sorry to get your hopes up lol

You should be blamed... I even went through the whole list of keyboard accessories on MK after reading your post...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:08:23
Any word on the black blockers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:19:26
There aren't enough orders.  We have 76 silver blockers so far. We need over 100 silver blockers for them to make black ones..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 20 April 2014, 13:22:45
I just want to put 1800 Keys on this puppy, do I need to fill out the customization assembly to make sure I get the correct plate? I will build this myself and provide my own switches/stabilizers.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 20 April 2014, 13:34:50
I just want to put 1800 Keys on this puppy, do I need to fill out the customization assembly to make sure I get the correct plate? I will build this myself and provide my own switches/stabilizers.
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I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 20 April 2014, 15:14:55
I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?

If they are universal plates, they could be specific to layouts though. I'm not familiar enough with the plate.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 15:19:27
Pretty sure there's only 1 universal plate otherwise they would have asked me to add an option for the plates in the order form.

Also this layout 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x won't work..or so I've been told.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sun, 20 April 2014, 15:59:57
I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?

If they are universal plates, they could be specific to layouts though. I'm not familiar enough with the plate.

The Duck Mini plate had wide cutouts for the switches with multiple possible positions like Caps lock and the bottom row. I'll snap a picture of it when I get home since it's currently disassembled
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 08:27:04

I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?

If they are universal plates, they could be specific to layouts though. I'm not familiar enough with the plate.

The Duck Mini plate had wide cutouts for the switches with multiple possible positions like Caps lock and the bottom row. I'll snap a picture of it when I get home since it's currently disassembled

Do you have a whole collection of duck's keyboards or something? :P
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 21 April 2014, 08:28:29

I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?

If they are universal plates, they could be specific to layouts though. I'm not familiar enough with the plate.

The Duck Mini plate had wide cutouts for the switches with multiple possible positions like Caps lock and the bottom row. I'll snap a picture of it when I get home since it's currently disassembled

Do you have a whole collection of duck's keyboards or something? :P

Maaaaybe
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Mon, 21 April 2014, 08:35:20
I assume the plate has to support every layout the PCB does right?

If they are universal plates, they could be specific to layouts though. I'm not familiar enough with the plate.

The Duck Mini plate had wide cutouts for the switches with multiple possible positions like Caps lock and the bottom row. I'll snap a picture of it when I get home since it's currently disassembled

Here is the worst picture that could possible show what I mean. (http://i.imgur.com/OurlEm4.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 21 April 2014, 09:22:13
any update on the possibility of adding clears to the assembly options? plss  ;D

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/78/45/78451db5a83f1171c1af434d3fbc0ce5.jpg?itok=m28HX92J)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 11:47:07
I've already asked and it's a no unfortunately
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 21 April 2014, 11:53:41
I've already asked and it's a no unfortunately

ah ok, well thanks for trying. Is there a tentative due date for getting the assembly form completed? Not sure what I'm going to do yet..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Mon, 21 April 2014, 11:54:33
Hey elton, sry for being so annoying. For the layout I have been asking for. 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x. Why is this infeasible? Is it the software limitation or the pcb doesn't support it?
The mid row in the following graph shows the layout I want.
[attachimg=1]

Is it because when I use 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x in the left, the current will only go through the circuit where 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,1.25x lies in the right. Then even I put the switches in the 1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x, there would be not current passing these paths, thus these four keys can't be detected.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 21 April 2014, 12:00:31
Sorry, one more question..If we decide to opt out of the assembly option, could we possibly have the option to buy the cherry pcb mount stabs?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 13:41:14
You are right Ron, you can get that layout.  Just specify that in the forms.

I've asked in the previous group buys, and he said no. I asked again, let's see..


I'll add that layout to the form

EDIT: You can order 1 stabilizer set for one unit ordered

Just PM me if you want to add a set.

Also for that layout, Ron, I don't think you can use the plate..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 21 April 2014, 14:13:58
Hey Elton,

Not that it really matters, but out of curiosity, will the orders without assembly services be shipped before those that requested assembly services, or will they all be shipped in the same go?

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 April 2014, 14:50:00
EDIT: You can order 1 stabilizer set for one unit ordered

Just PM me if you want to add a set.

Is this just if we order assembly service or can we get a stabilizer set if we are assembling it ourselves?

Also, what is the cost?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:16:43
Is there no possibility that the order limit can be expanded again? I'd really like one of these keyboards, and since the initial orders filled in a day, I'm sure I'm not the only one that still wants one.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:18:05
Is there no possibility that the order limit can be expanded again? I'd really like one of these keyboards, and since the initial orders filled in a day, I'm sure I'm not the only one that still wants one.

There's still Originative.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:49:35
What's the deadline for the assembly form, Elton?

Edit: Nvm, assembly form submitted.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:48:55
Still waiting for answers, but the stabilizers probably $10.  You can buy a set if you get one unassembled.  For assembly, it is included in the price.

Not possible to expand anymore orders as that will delay further of their plans (ie viper and eagle)

Assembly form will end when the payment is due..around mid-end of May.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:58:52
So by custom LED, does that also include customizing the side SMD LED?
Has there been any news on this?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 21 April 2014, 18:42:19
Hey Elton,

Not that it really matters, but out of curiosity, will the orders without assembly services be shipped before those that requested assembly services, or will they all be shipped in the same go?

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 21 April 2014, 20:19:43
Is there no possibility that the order limit can be expanded again? I'd really like one of these keyboards, and since the initial orders filled in a day, I'm sure I'm not the only one that still wants one.

There's still Originative.

ewwwwww

Not too inclined to dip my feet in that dirty pool yet. Seems like it's been left unattended for the last month, or 5.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 20:46:14
Still waiting for answers, but the stabilizers probably $10.  You can buy a set if you get one unassembled.  For assembly, it is included in the price.

Not possible to expand anymore orders as that will delay further of their plans (ie viper and eagle)

Assembly form will end when the payment is due..around mid-end of May.

Don't delay the viper. ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:14:17
1. The PCBs will be made earlier than the cases, so they will be shipped at the same time.  Hopefully I'll get the assembled part done earlier and send it to them.

2. Ok, there will be 2 kind of plates. I'm still waiting for more info on this....

3. Side LEDs are fixed, sorry...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:02:52
Any other LED's available? Say green, pink, yellow, purple?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:36:55
does assembly include stickers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:44:11
does assembly include stickers?
Yup. See his second post.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:45:26
does assembly include stickers?
Yup. See his second post.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536)

damn i'm blind, thanks
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Mon, 21 April 2014, 23:46:57
does assembly include stickers?
Yup. See his second post.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536)

damn i'm blind, thanks
Can't be worse than me. I've got 14/20  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:05:01
I completed the form, however why do I have to answer the numpad question 3 times? I wanted 3 B, regular numpad, however I had to pick a numpad option for 1, and 2 as well as it was required?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:11:41
I completed the form, however why do I have to answer the numpad question 3 times? I wanted 3 B, regular numpad, however I had to pick a numpad option for 1, and 2 as well as it was required?

Each of the options offers different keys. It is neccessary to specify each setup.

A standard numpad would be:

1b (for the 2u "0" key)
2b (for the 2u "+" key)
3b (for the 2u "Enter" key)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:47:40
Playing around with the layout editor, this should be the look of my keyboard after I receive the granite caps from sp.

If 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x works
[attachimg=1]

Alternative option:
[attachimg=2]

Can't wait to get my hands on this :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 22 April 2014, 08:57:08
I completed the form, however why do I have to answer the numpad question 3 times? I wanted 3 B, regular numpad, however I had to pick a numpad option for 1, and 2 as well as it was required?

Each of the options offers different keys. It is neccessary to specify each setup.

A standard numpad would be:

1b (for the 2u "0" key)
2b (for the 2u "+" key)
3b (for the 2u "Enter" key)

Ah, see I'm a little tired after the long weekend and getting to work it, I appreciate your help going to PM this to Elton, as apparently I'm an idiot, and my first custom keyboard ever.

Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 22 April 2014, 11:48:28
Playing around with the layout editor, this should be the look of my keyboard after I receive the granite caps from sp.

If 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x works
(Attachment Link)

Alternative option:
(Attachment Link)

Can't wait to get my hands on this :D

Those are the exact two layouts I'm going for as well.  I can't wait!  Finally a full size board without the "full-size".
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 22 April 2014, 13:07:40
Playing around with the layout editor, this should be the look of my keyboard after I receive the granite caps from sp.

If 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x works
(Attachment Link)

Alternative option:
(Attachment Link)

Can't wait to get my hands on this :D

Those are the exact two layouts I'm going for as well.  I can't wait!  Finally a full size board without the "full-size".


Same layout I'll probably settle on also. Make sure you boys order the 1800 kit and Tsangans when you buy your keysets now :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 22 April 2014, 14:47:34
Ronnn, that layout will work, but without the plate.

Also, if you want the new layout 1.5 1.5 7x 1.5 1.5 1x 1x, you'll need the new plate.  For the current layout from V1, you'll have that current plate. 

People, please let me know which plate you want and it will be included with the set.  If you want both, you have to buy the extra plate.  Sorry for the late notice, I just found out last night..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 22 April 2014, 16:10:09
added my assembly info on the spreadsheet, i'm finally decided and done. thanks again Elton :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 02:22:32
How do I edit my order in case I don't want the assembly service anymore? Do I need to send a new form again? I really want Clear switches, so I got no choice but to build it myself  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 09:55:03
Just let me know and I'll delete you off the list ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 24 April 2014, 11:01:05
Hey Elton,

Just confirming:  so there are two plates?  I will take both if this is the case.

Thanks!

-Tad
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 24 April 2014, 11:31:47
Any chance of being able to get the stabilizers without going the full assembly route?

Also, I'm confused about the plate situation. There are two, one supports having the arrow cluster next to the right shift and is extra?

[)amien
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 11:33:09
Yeah I got you down for it.

Also for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538

The anodizing place only makes this grey. They can use another company but the quality isn't as good.


Yes, you can order one full set of stabilizers for each lightsaver you ordered

For plates, if you want the new layout I posted earlier, you need the new plate. For the others you need the other plate

Stab set comes with 7x, 6.25x, 4x 2u wires and all the stab parts for the wires.  So basically ready for a TKL keyboard.

You have to buy 2 sets though since lightsaver requires the numpad if you want them to have the 2U stabs.

each set is 3.5$
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:01:11
Elton, could you please change my order to Silver please? Also, did you get my pm about the LED's? Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:34:07
Ok, I changed it to silver..I did, I just haven't changed it yet on the form..

Maybe I should've left out the assembly service..........
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cphead on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:43:37
Hey Elton, could you please change my order to gray? Really digging that blue-ish color.  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:53:28
Ok, I changed it to silver..I did, I just haven't changed it yet on the form..

Maybe I should've left out the assembly service..........

Sorry, but I would still go for dark gray if it was that original color as described earlier.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:57:31
Yes, you can order one full set of stabilizers for each lightsaver you ordered

You have to buy 2 sets though since lightsaver requires the numpad if you want them to have the 2U stabs.

each set is 3.5$

I'm a little confused.  Sounds you said we could order one full set but now you're saying we need two...?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 24 April 2014, 15:03:54
Well that full set they have only comes with enough for a TKL. $7 for 2 sets of stabilizers is the cheapest you will find anyways
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:46:11
Ok, I changed it to silver..I did, I just haven't changed it yet on the form..

Maybe I should've left out the assembly service..........

Sorry, but I would still go for dark gray if it was that original color as described earlier.

It's impossible to change the colour on our Orion orders now right? Kinda sad that the colour magically changes as they have to anodize it in a second batch :/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 25 April 2014, 01:11:03
Is there any chance of another increase for the order cap? This looks amazing, I'd hate to miss out.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 25 April 2014, 02:46:21
Is there any chance of another increase for the order cap? This looks amazing, I'd hate to miss out.

Yeah, this must be the only GB where no one drops out when it comes to the payment phase.

I'd love to take a spot :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 25 April 2014, 03:54:06
Also for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538
Off-topic, but will Viper be available in that two-toned grey?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazh on Fri, 25 April 2014, 08:22:28
Also for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538
Off-topic, but will Viper be available in that two-toned grey?

Viper is one-piece housing (just like LSv2) so that 2-tone style would be impossible I believe :/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 25 April 2014, 08:47:51
Also for the grey for both Orion and Lightsaver V2, it'll be the blue grey colour.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_dAHG88&document_srl=200538
Off-topic, but will Viper be available in that two-toned grey?

Viper is one-piece housing (just like LSv2) so that 2-tone style would be impossible I believe :/

I think viper is 2 piece housing. If it is one-piece housing, how do they achieve that top cover?
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 25 April 2014, 08:59:05
Viper will have that bluish grey as well. Viper is 1 piece design. The PCB will be cut to fit on the case, so the PCB will be shaped like a HHKB.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 25 April 2014, 09:13:08
Viper will have that bluish grey as well. Viper is 1 piece design. The PCB will be cut to fit on the case, so the PCB will be shaped like a HHKB.
Cool, nice to know. Another reason to get it... I hope I could save up before the GB is up...  :'(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 25 April 2014, 09:18:57
Please change my order to gray when you get the chance.

Thank you Elton for being such a great host through this process. Rep +1 :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Fri, 25 April 2014, 09:38:51
...

Thank you Elton for being such a great host through this process. Rep +1 :thumb:

This^!  Elton, you are doing an awesome job keeping up with our questions/bickering/etc...  Thank you for being awesome.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 25 April 2014, 10:06:12
Elton's just to sexy, what's the expected date for them to be completed before shipping? Just curious. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 25 April 2014, 10:08:25
I think this still applies. So I think users will be getting them around mid June.

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready. Around end of May.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 25 April 2014, 10:37:46
I think this still applies. So I think users will be getting them around mid June.

TrueCustom designed a new PCB for the Lightsaver V2, so it'll take about a month longer to be ready. Around end of May.

Thanks for the information. :), Just might need to update Elton before shipping, might be moving 2-3 times in the next year for work. x.x
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:54:26
Viper will have that bluish grey as well. Viper is 1 piece design. The PCB will be cut to fit on the case, so the PCB will be shaped like a HHKB.
Awesome.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazh on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:24:43
Will Viper be available in silver color? :/ I'm not a fan of grey :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Sun, 27 April 2014, 00:03:26
Super Excited - Finally decided what my lightsaver will look like.

Attached is the mockup :) anybody have any comments / advice ?

[attachimg=1]

note, Those numbers would be macros :) this keyboard will be accompanies by the butterfly keypad :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Derange on Sun, 27 April 2014, 08:21:36
Ronnn, that layout will work, but without the plate.

Also, if you want the new layout 1.5 1.5 7x 1.5 1.5 1x 1x, you'll need the new plate.  For the current layout from V1, you'll have that current plate. 

People, please let me know which plate you want and it will be included with the set.  If you want both, you have to buy the extra plate.  Sorry for the late notice, I just found out last night..

So the newer plates lose the standard moogle/tsangan layouts?  If that's the case, how much would the additional plate cost?
I'll be sure to pm you my plate/stab order soon, and thanks again for running these lovely GBs.  :D

@wizbliz
That blocker layout really tempts me to switch for the silver housing.
If only we were closer to getting those black blockers.  :'(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 27 April 2014, 10:51:06
Most likely. $33 for each plate.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:19:35
still waiting to have one slot available :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 01:50:46
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html


Here's a form for you guys to check it over and let me know if there are any errors..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 30 April 2014, 03:23:28
Can you add to my order 2 Stabilizer Set and 15 Duck Blockers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:03:49
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html


Here's a form for you guys to check it over and let me know if there are any errors..

Hi, what's the dead line to fill the assembly form?

Regards,
Ken
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Wed, 30 April 2014, 06:19:38
Hi Elton, thanks for the spread sheet which made me realized I need the stabilizers as well. Two sets. One for light saver and the other as spare. Also would want to buy the spare plate just in case my layout needs modifying.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 08:37:31
I'd try to finish filling the assembly form in a week or 2.

If you are getting assembly, you don't need to buy any stabilizers, they're included. If you want extras, I think it's okay though. Max 2 sets.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 11:18:41
Checked the spreadsheet.  Order is all good!  Thanks Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 30 April 2014, 13:08:27
I'm pretty sure my order looks good, so the cost so far is 295 + 70 (assembly) + shipping?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 13:24:10
my order should be silver, not gray. I need whichever plate supports 1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x which I believe is the original plate and that spreadsheet shows me with the new plate? thanks
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 13:35:16
Weird, I'll fix it. No plates will fit that layout. Read my previous posts please. You can do that without a plate.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 30 April 2014, 13:58:15
My order should be gray, with original plate. I will go ahead and refill assembly form since it looks like it didn't go through.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 14:05:11
Oh ok I seem to be missing changes from posts. Please PM me the changes.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 April 2014, 14:56:06
I'm curious why some people are getting 15 blockers??  Is it just to have extras?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 15:14:21
So which 6.25x space bar layout option(s) do I have that uses a plate?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: rapax24 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 15:20:14
i saw there were only 15 available in the first post but now i see around 30 orders.
is there any chance to buy one of these keyboard? maybe OP ment 15 per colour choice?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 15:24:31
Digi, please look at the layout options on the assembly form which you filled out...

It increased to 30
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 30 April 2014, 15:59:03
I'm curious why some people are getting 15 blockers??  Is it just to have extras?

One setup I saw used 15 blockers. It is easier to buy blockers now than to need them later and not be able to get them. I'm sure I can find some use for them in other circumstances.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:00:28
I'm curious why some people are getting 15 blockers??  Is it just to have extras?

One setup I saw used 15 blockers. It is easier to buy blockers now than to need them later and not be able to get them. I'm sure I can find some use for them in other circumstances.

Any chance you could find a link to that setup?  I completely agree about buying now rather than needing later, that's why I asked.  Maybe I'm missing out on a really cool layout option!   ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: rapax24 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:29:28
one last question, i'm usually out for work all day and i'm unsure of my work address in the near future so i will probably have to ship this to my mother or a friend of mine if i choose to buy one. will there be any problem with changing the shipping address during the production process?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:56:43
Digi, please look at the layout options on the assembly form which you filled out...

It increased to 30

Elton, I see the layout options but it doesn't say which options use plate and which do not? The only 1800 themed layout with a 6.25x spacebar can't use a plate?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:07:35
Yes I can change your address as long as it's not shipped yet.

Plate only layouts on the form. As I've said it won't fit on any plates offered here.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:10:43
Plate only layouts on the form. As I've said it won't fit on any plates offered here.

1.25x,1.25x,1.25x,6.25x,1.5x,1.5x,1x,1x is on the assembly form (Space bar Option D) but you also said this layout only works without a plate?? Man, I'm super confused now, lol.
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:11:50
Oh opps. Let me double check.


Edit: okay I added that one later on and that layout D is only without plate. Forgot about that.

No need to be confused. Either way I've already said that layout can't be used with plate anyways.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:33:01
Oh opps. Let me double check.


Edit: okay I added that one later on and that layout D is only without plate. Forgot about that.

No need to be confused. Either way I've already said that layout can't be used with plate anyways.

You just said that all options on the assembly form use plate then you said that statement was a mistake. Then said there is no need to be confused because you posted earlier in the thread that option doesn't use plate? Now I'm REALLY CONFUSED!! :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:46:20
Ok last time.

1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.5 1.5 1 1 IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE PLATES.

If anyone ask again, I'll drop them off this buy. ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:51:17
Ok last time.

1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.5 1.5 1 1 IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE PLATES.

If anyone ask again, I'll drop them off this buy. ;)

Wow, just asking for clarification and you were wrong in your earlier statement. What information should we assume is correct and incorrect? I'm not trying to be a butthole, I'm really not. I just want to be %100 sure. Thanks for doing this GB Elton, we still buds? <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 30 April 2014, 20:17:00
Is it too late to be in for a red one with 5 blockers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 30 April 2014, 20:45:07
There were 30 available (shown on front page) and as the spreadsheet shows (above) 30 are gone.

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: anoxy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 20:59:12
Sorry for the dumb question, but as someone fairly new to keyboards, what is a blocker?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:02:16
I regret not getting in on this.

Is this hard anodized?

It's the Viper GB going to have assembly service?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:02:54
Sorry for the dumb question, but as someone fairly new to keyboards, what is a blocker?

They are these
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1288763#msg1288763

And they are meant to block certain switch positions so that you don't need to put a switch there but it won't look like a hole.  So they're aesthetics for giving a certain functionality.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 30 April 2014, 21:09:13
It's the Viper GB going to have assembly service?
I hope so, otherwise I'll have to send everything to kmiller8, and have him sort it out
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:37:38
I'm curious why some people are getting 15 blockers??  Is it just to have extras?

One setup I saw used 15 blockers. It is easier to buy blockers now than to need them later and not be able to get them. I'm sure I can find some use for them in other circumstances.

Any chance you could find a link to that setup?  I completely agree about buying now rather than needing later, that's why I asked.  Maybe I'm missing out on a really cool layout option!   ;)

I found it before but I couldn't earlier when I replied to your post. I will look again tomorrow and if I find it I will post the link.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:43:59
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/2405E63C528A205E3098FD)

This one has 14, but why would you make a TKL out of this?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:47:53
Show Image
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/2405E63C528A205E3098FD)


This one has 14, but why would you make a TKL out of this?

I agree, kind of defeats the whole purpose of the lightsaver layout.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:49:08
Show Image
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/2405E63C528A205E3098FD)


This one has 14, but why would you make a TKL out of this?

Cool, thanks for finding that!  It's kind of a fun idea, but obviously yes I would not be interested in making it a TKL.   :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 22:57:53
You can now order black Duck Blockers since there are over 100 silver blocks
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Thu, 01 May 2014, 10:48:35
Hi elton,

I just send you a pm.

Regards,
Ken
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Fri, 02 May 2014, 11:59:24
Does any1 know if I relocate the num lock to the place next to F12. The num lock led toggling still work? Sorry for asking such stupid question.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Fri, 02 May 2014, 12:20:37
Does any1 know if I relocate the num lock to the place next to F12. The num lock led toggling still work? Sorry for asking such stupid question.
It's not a stupid question so don't worry. I think it's possible, but I'm not sure what the firmware program can do regarding capslock, numlock and special keys. It might have to hardwired differently in which case you have to ask elton to ask duck and see if he's willing to do it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sat, 03 May 2014, 08:49:34
Yes, I believe you can. http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84) - ty to Photoelectric for posting in the Lightsaver thread. I plan on programming the left and right arrow keys to the right-click mouse / right windows key.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 03 May 2014, 11:16:03
Yes, I believe you can. http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84) - ty to Photoelectric for posting in the Lightsaver thread. I plan on programming the left and right arrow keys to the right-click mouse / right windows key.
That is seriously cool. You mean I can now change my caps lock to the timeout corner - where it should be - without a DIP switch?  :))
That alone justifies this keyboard for me. 8)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 03 May 2014, 11:19:02
Just make sure you program your layer toggle key somewhere far out of reach.  I used to hit mine accidentally and would then get "delete" instead of "right arrow" on the numpad when viewing photographs--not fun  ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 03 May 2014, 11:22:56
Just make sure you program your layer toggle key somewhere far out of reach.  I used to hit mine accidentally and would then get "delete" instead of "right arrow" on the numpad when viewing photographs--not fun  ;)

Layers make you super efficient!  Maybe move the delete key under the layer instead :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 03 May 2014, 13:35:42
I am in the Orion group buy. Would it be possible to get some of the black blockers?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 03 May 2014, 13:41:05
Just make sure you program your layer toggle key somewhere far out of reach.  I used to hit mine accidentally and would then get "delete" instead of "right arrow" on the numpad when viewing photographs--not fun  ;)

Layers make you super efficient!  Maybe move the delete key under the layer instead :p

I think you misunderstood, the layer toggle changes layout if you have your layers set up differently.  And there are 4 layers!  So if you hit the key accidentally and don't notice, most things behave normally, but say your numpad might now be doing different things from the previous layer.  So like "delete" instead of a directional arrow :)  I think it would actually be very helpful to show layers in a way that does not involve LED blinking x number of times constantly (that gets old quickly, so I disabled it), but there's no display attached, and those who use LEDs for everything would not benefit from having extra indicator LEDs (like on F4 for Layer #4).  There are other ways to swap layers too, but it's definitely something to think about and experiment with.  I used to have Layer Toggle as a 1x function key to the right of the right Shift, and quickly moved it away farther out of reach.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 03 May 2014, 13:54:35
Just make sure you program your layer toggle key somewhere far out of reach.  I used to hit mine accidentally and would then get "delete" instead of "right arrow" on the numpad when viewing photographs--not fun  ;)

Layers make you super efficient!  Maybe move the delete key under the layer instead :p

I think you misunderstood, the layer toggle changes layout if you have your layers set up differently.  And there are 4 layers!  So if you hit the key accidentally and don't notice, most things behave normally, but say your numpad might now be doing different things from the previous layer.  So like "delete" instead of a directional arrow :)  I think it would actually be very helpful to show layers in a way that does not involve LED blinking x number of times constantly (that gets old quickly, so I disabled it), but there's no display attached, and those who use LEDs for everything would not benefit from having extra indicator LEDs (like on F4 for Layer #4).  There are other ways to swap layers too, but it's definitely something to think about and experiment with.  I used to have Layer Toggle as a 1x function key to the right of the right Shift, and quickly moved it away farther out of reach.

Hmm that's some food for thought. Does the layers go in circles (so 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 --> 1) ?The easiest way I can see is to solder in some non-switched LEDs and use those as indicator (like the poker 2 spacebar LED); but it might not be very visible if you turn on every single LED on the board.

Ultimately though, you have to look at some kind of indicator when the layer is changed, usually after the wrong key is pressed. So I think as long as the indicator is clearly visible and recognizable, it shouldn't be too much trouble.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 03 May 2014, 14:08:24
You can have it go in a loop like that every time you press a key (Ly TG) or you can switch to a layer directly (Ly CH+ number).  2 different binding options.  Or you can bind "Ly 4" to go directly to layer #4, etc.

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

The indicator is by default the top right-most LED. It either blinks x number of times quickly every 2 seconds ALL THE TIME or only shows the layer number when you switch.  The blink succession is very fast.  Best to not bind Layer Toggle and instead bind actual layer numbers or Ly CH for more precision.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Sat, 03 May 2014, 20:21:30
That's what I will probably end up doing. I would only use 2 layers anyway, how could you remember more than 2? o.O

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:05:46
That's what I will probably end up doing. I would only use 2 layers anyway, how could you remember more than 2? o.O

If you think of number lock as the second layer, I think a third is doable on top of navigation / numberpad even if it's just a media/macro layer that doesn't cover the whole keyboard. On a keypad I've got a layout that's regular numpad navigation on layer 1, numeric keypad on layer 2, and media hotkeys on layer 3 and it works pretty well. I was experimenting with copy / paste macros on the third layer as well but they were too unwieldy and I ended up sticking those on my extra mouse buttons where they are actually much handier.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Sun, 04 May 2014, 18:50:00
I just want to say thanks to whomever gave up their spot in this GB, thus allowing me in.  Now I have a reason to get rid of my random g80-18xxs that are sitting around collecting dust or are in pieces.  I don't think I'll need another 1800 layout after this V2.   :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Tue, 06 May 2014, 14:32:26
I just want to say thanks to whomever gave up their spot in this GB, thus allowing me in.  Now I have a reason to get rid of my random g80-18xxs that are sitting around collecting dust or are in pieces.  I don't think I'll need another 1800 layout after this V2.   :thumb:

Someone got lucky, I just want this board now. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 06 May 2014, 15:34:25
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=222831&mid=board_Lsno50 ;)

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/831/222/2a63c8f19920b3dfc24dee048570bd0a.JPG)
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/831/222/893f165f5ac4d61108b6f39ed1cce516.JPG)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 20:59:11
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=222831&mid=board_Lsno50 ;)

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/831/222/2a63c8f19920b3dfc24dee048570bd0a.JPG)

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/831/222/893f165f5ac4d61108b6f39ed1cce516.JPG)


If only they have plate for this layout  ^-^
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 06 May 2014, 21:18:41
That layout works with plate just not 1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25!1.5 1.5 1 1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 07 May 2014, 08:05:09
It's so pretty, stop giving me boners for keyboards at work. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 17:23:14
I think I'll start invoicing in the next week or 2. Probably the ones with assembly first.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Thu, 08 May 2014, 17:56:28
I think I'll start invoicing in the next week or 2. Probably the ones with assembly first.
Woohoo! I'm super excited. Should have my monies to pay for it too.  8)
At least Duck is no DrugER... ::)
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 18:01:02
I've never spoke with Duck, but with TrueCustom. He's a very nice guy. :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Kfactork on Thu, 08 May 2014, 18:12:20
I've never spoke with Duck, but with TrueCustom. He's a very nice guy. :thumb:
As we can see with his GB history, he is reliable and has good a reputation. I have no doubt  ;)
Now I don't know about drugER history on GH, but if he had done successful business before that happened, that's just really bad karma.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 10 May 2014, 20:44:35
Someone did an interesting job with lightsaver pcb :O

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=245141&mid=board_Lsno50
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 10 May 2014, 22:11:05
Looks really good. Maybe sometime in the future we can get extra PCBs.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 11 May 2014, 02:31:37
Any ideas for LED combos for a red case? I'm set on the red case but I'm not sure what would look good with it. I'm was thinking of white for the alphas, but I'm stumped.

Someone help me out here!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 May 2014, 11:32:10
Any ideas for LED combos for a red case? I'm set on the red case but I'm not sure what would look good with it. I'm was thinking of white for the alphas, but I'm stumped.

Someone help me out here!

Orange, white, red, warm white.  I recently put some orange LEDs on a keyboard with a red plate, and it looked a perfect combination.  You could do all orange with a stripe of white.  Avoid magenta--it's far too cold toned.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: avtar on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:30:58
Orange, white, red, warm white.  I recently put some orange LEDs on a keyboard with a red plate, and it looked a perfect combination.

Where did you get the red plate? I would love to get my hands on an orange one.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:38:25

Orange, white, red, warm white.  I recently put some orange LEDs on a keyboard with a red plate, and it looked a perfect combination.

Where did you get the red plate? I would love to get my hands on an orange one.
Yeah and does the colour of plate actually have an effect on led vibrance?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:40:22
It was on a KMAC2, which comes with a red plate :)  It does make a difference, yes, because the LED color illuminates the plate, and so depending on plate color (silver or some color), the glow will look a bit different.  Silver plate basically doesn't alter LED colors.

I was just saying that orange LEDs seem to go well with red anodized aluminum as a color choice.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:42:07

It was on a KMAC2, which comes with a red plate :)  It does make a difference, yes, because the LED color illuminates the plate, and so depending on plate color (silver or some color), the glow will look a bit different.  Silver plate basically doesn't alter LED colors.

I was just saying that orange LEDs seem to go well with red anodized aluminum as a color choice.

Cool, good to know!
Too bad it'll be too much of a hassle to get my plates anodized :S
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 May 2014, 12:44:22
Can't anodize this plate: it's made of steel :)  You can paint it if you wanted or powdercoat.  I think it looks great as is though and matches any keycap set.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:09:57
Any pictures of the KMAC? Sounds like an interesting combo.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:56:41
Just a potato shot, and I don't have it anymore (it was assembled for someone else).

(http://i.imgur.com/rELWEik.jpg)

I really liked the orange glow under keycaps (my Lightsaver can be seen behind it)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:44:28
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 20:52:01
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!

o**** DIY case  time
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:29:19
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!
Price and how many can we order?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:41:23
$45 PCB
$35 Plate

How many do you want?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:43:05
$45 PCB
$35 Plate

How many do you want?
2 plates and 2 pcbs please!!! Well unless I got in on the main order...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:43:49
When will ordering for pcb and plate end? I need to scrounge up cash
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:46:49
There might be more drop outs during invoice, so wait it out ;)

Deadline is June 6

I'll make new order form for this...adding it to the current one will just mess it up
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:49:01
Nice, will wait for the new order form.  :-X
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 13 May 2014, 21:50:37
There might be more drop outs during invoice, so wait it out ;)

Deadline is June 6

I'll make new order form for this...adding it to the current one will just mess it up
That works! Thanks so much Elton, I'll put my order in depending on how everything goes.  :thumb:
 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:08:38
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!

...how?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:12:54
This was something I didn't know I desperately needed in my life.  However, looking at pics of the black ones with WoB Cherry sets makes me feel super funny.  Oh lordy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:15:22
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!

...how?
Elton will post a new order form for them
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:26:32
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vYfOccdByRCH9EAWr27utGfZy8_-dN2arkJLquCKLc4/viewform?usp=send_form
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:29:47
Done!!! Thanks again Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 14 May 2014, 00:49:49
thank you Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: rapax24 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 02:44:08
estimate delivery time for pcb and plates?
does the assembly for the pcb require switches and leds only?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 14 May 2014, 03:00:07
estimate delivery time for pcb and plates?
does the assembly for the pcb require switches and leds only?
Same questions here. Is there a full assemble service for the PCB and Plate (Switches, LEDs. etc)? And is the plate available in many layouts or just one?  since Duck produces more PCBs and Plates, is there any change for the aluminum housing? I really want to get one since I missed the V1, couldn't believe that I missed the V2 also. :(
Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:14:18
Hi Elton, the v2 plate in the new google form is the one that supports new 18xx layout right? Sorry that I'm just asking again to make sure  :rolleyes: .
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:19:30
I'm having a hard time seeing how the PCB and plate are secured.  I see 10 stand offs in the case and then corresponding holes in both the PCB and the plate.  Is it the PCB or the plate that is ultimately sitting on top of the stand offs?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:39:48
I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:42:45
Deadline is June 6
This works perfectly for me, thank you Elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 09:46:53
Great work elton. Thank you so much :D
Good news! PCBs can be ordered separately!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: rapax24 on Wed, 14 May 2014, 10:46:56
I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.

well, but for the assembly we need to solder only switches and leds or we also need to solder smd components and other stuff?
in the latter case i don't have the right equipment and probably the ability to do such a job
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 14 May 2014, 11:17:22
Feeling tempted. But I don't have caps for numpad :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 14 May 2014, 11:28:36
I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.

well, but for the assembly we need to solder only switches and leds or we also need to solder smd components and other stuff?
in the latter case i don't have the right equipment and probably the ability to do such a job

I think the PCB will come with smd components presoldered. I ordered 1 extra PCB set in orion group buy, both PCB are smd presoldered.

correct me if iam wrong.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 14 May 2014, 11:31:36
What manner of assembly options will be available with this round?
MX clear by any chance? If not, Change springs? etc
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 14 May 2014, 11:43:44
What manner of assembly options will be available with this round?
MX clear by any chance? If not, Change springs? etc

Clears are not available, however two different spring options are:
See the Assembly Form ->
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1287536#msg1287536
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:00:43
 oh, there's already 30 orders....le sigh
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 15 May 2014, 00:25:30
oh, there's already 30 orders....le sigh
But you can get pcb's and plates now... I'm sure someone will get a case gb going... In fact, if JD will help me out with
a plate/case design I can have them made here.  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 15 May 2014, 01:55:22
This or Cherry 1800 BoW caps on this keyboard?

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/dy9yruqe.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 01:56:13
If they're not shiny, I say the BoWs :s
I think DSA looks better on 60% boards
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 15 May 2014, 02:09:53
This or Cherry 1800 BoW caps on this keyboard?

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/dy9yruqe.jpg)


If the lights bleed through the sp caps go for the doubleshots. Otherwise stick with DSA dolch. Its a pretty sexy set
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 15 May 2014, 03:23:46
This or Cherry 1800 BoW caps on this keyboard?

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/dy9yruqe.jpg)


I find that I have the chance to make a unicorn vomit LED keyboard with this board, in my case I'll go with GMK beige
all the various LED color would shine through that way :D

Unless you are not going to do the same , go with dolch
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 15 May 2014, 15:05:46
This or Cherry 1800 BoW caps on this keyboard?

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/dy9yruqe.jpg)

That's what I plan on using!!! Looks soooo good!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Sat, 17 May 2014, 07:07:02
Can I still order with assembly? Can I pay by the 20th of May or is the deadline for payment on June 7?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Sat, 17 May 2014, 09:29:59
Can I still order with assembly? Can I pay by the 20th of May or is the deadline for payment on June 7?

 :'( The 30 complete boards are spoken for. I believe you can only get pcb or plate at this junction.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:08:53
I want this board, patience smells.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 02:01:32
Elton5354, Do you full image about Lightsaver V2 PCB? I wanna see some hole on PCB. I just buy PCB and I 'll do case & plate by acrylic :) So i need it to guesstimate my case & plate
I hope you can help :) Thanks
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 22 May 2014, 10:47:01
Elton5354, Do you full image about Lightsaver V2 PCB? I wanna see some hole on PCB. I just buy PCB and I 'll do case & plate by acrylic :) So i need it to guesstimate my case & plate
I hope you can help :) Thanks

would this work?
http://duck0113.tistory.com/93
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:04:22
I think V2 PCB has the same mounting holes as the V1's.  You can check photoelectric's thread for a full PCB picture as well.

I've updated the shipping costs on the spreadsheet. Total costs are available now.  You can check it out.

I'll be invoicing starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:45:33
I'll be invoicing starting tomorrow.

I don't usually say this, but I'm really excited to pay for this thing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 23 May 2014, 06:17:36
I'll be invoicing starting tomorrow.

I don't usually say this, but I'm really excited to pay for this thing.
Who doesnt ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 23 May 2014, 07:44:55
Apparently I'm keyboard dumb, anyone know what plate I need for Layout "d" I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to this thread besides posting in it getting excited, and waiting to pay, have the cash sitting in my car. :o
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Fri, 23 May 2014, 07:48:41
I'll be invoicing starting tomorrow.

i'm ready  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Fri, 23 May 2014, 07:50:57
Elton, any chance we can order the duck blockers individually as well?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:41:51
Apparently I'm keyboard dumb, anyone know what plate I need for Layout "d" I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to this thread besides posting in it getting excited, and waiting to pay, have the cash sitting in my car. :o
IIRC, layout d only works without plate
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: MrChunky on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:17:43
Elton, any chance we can order the duck blockers individually as well?

He said yes to me. But the shipping rates from korea are quite expensive. Almost 30USD to Europe.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:40:01
Elton is a great host, making my noobness very easily understood. :)

Also excited just ordered my lime green keycaps, and then I just need to find another colour I want to put with it thinking black, but I may want the numpad to be a different colour...

Decisions...

Are they are specialized sets for Lime green/black with special characters or is this just a dream.. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:49:47
This set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55644.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:52:42
This set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55644.0

I've been looking at that, however I could use that for my numpad area...

So many options, I guess I'll have to wait and see if there are any extras from my dear friend Bunny, Just don't want to have a whole closet full of keycaps.. Lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:17:55
Elton, any chance we can order the duck blockers individually as well?

He said yes to me. But the shipping rates from korea are quite expensive. Almost 30USD to Europe.

Hmm, that's a bit too pricey for me. Does anyone know where I can find keyblockers in CONUS?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:25:01
Or you can piggyback someone's order given it won't exceed the weight bracket. Each blocker weighs .008 kg. then the person can help you ship it within conus at a good price?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:35:47
Or you can piggyback someone's order given it won't exceed the weight bracket. Each blocker weighs .008 kg. then the person can help you ship it within conus at a good price?

That would work for me. Would anyone that is getting a Lightsaver in the US volunteer to help me out? I am looking to get 4 of the silver blockers.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:38:39
If it's only 4 and if no one volunteers I can help you. I can ship it to you for $4 in a bubble mailer.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:40:15
Now I'm wondering if I need these, I'm thinking I dont.. however these are highly unobtainable usually.. Gah. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Fri, 23 May 2014, 10:49:06
If it's only 4 and if no one volunteers I can help you. I can ship it to you for $4 in a bubble mailer.

That would be great, thanks Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jufa on Sat, 24 May 2014, 13:53:28
paid. thanks elton
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:18:06
I ordered an extra PCB.  Will that effect shipping? (paid V2 invoice).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:22:19
Yeah, I forgot to add them to your invoices for those that ordered a set and extra PCBs/plates...

Each plate is .2kg and PCB is .15 kg

Lightsaver V2 set is 3.1 kg


Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:24:49
Yeah, I forgot to add them to your invoices for those that ordered a set and extra PCBs/plates...

Each plate is .2kg and PCB is .15 kg

Lightsaver V2 set is 3.1 kg




Okay.  Will you invoice the difference?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 14:27:28
Yes, just the PCB you ordered and PP fee. I'm going to invoice those later when I get the weight of packaging for PCBs/plates alone from them.

Yeah, I forgot to add them to your invoices for those that ordered a set and extra PCBs/plates...

Each plate is .2kg and PCB is .15 kg

Lightsaver V2 set is 3.1 kg




Okay.  Will you invoice the difference?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ryptide11 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 18:09:45
paid. Thank you!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:14:27
Paid!  Pretty stoked for this to arrive (aren't we all??).  :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 24 May 2014, 20:26:33
paid!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 24 May 2014, 22:12:28
I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 24 May 2014, 22:13:20
Will be paying on Friday :3 Thank you!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 22:31:05
I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?

Yes

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=31497&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Sat, 24 May 2014, 23:51:18
Paid, so sad to see the money go, but so excited to see the keyboard come. :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 25 May 2014, 00:00:00
I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?

Yes

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=31497&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2
Will you be able to get some of those too?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 25 May 2014, 00:05:02
I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?

Yes

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=31497&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2

Excellent. Thank you. One of those has a cad file which I might use to mill or print my own. Any idea if the aluminium housing has drawings available? I'd love to mill one out of stainless or acrylic.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 00:08:17
I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?

Yes

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=31497&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2
Will you be able to get some of those too?

I think it was just an individual who made their own case and shared their CAD file with everyone.

I take it you're invoicing the PCB and plate only orders last?

Yes

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=31497&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2

Excellent. Thank you. One of those has a cad file which I might use to mill or print my own. Any idea if the aluminium housing has drawings available? I'd love to mill one out of stainless or acrylic.

Maybe you can use those drawings to mill aluminium? Not sure if that works..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=33061
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Sun, 25 May 2014, 02:52:53
I sent a PCB and plate order request, I hope to get soldering!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Sun, 25 May 2014, 06:18:34
Paid.  Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 25 May 2014, 08:28:07
Paid earlier today.

Looking forward to this beauty :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 25 May 2014, 08:54:26
****. I wasn't keeping up with the thread after the initial signup.

Can someone please explain the difference between the original plate and the new plate, and is it still possible to select a different colour for the case?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sun, 25 May 2014, 09:14:10
paid
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 10:43:37

I sent a PCB and plate order request, I hope to get soldering!

I didn't get your request in

****. I wasn't keeping up with the thread after the initial signup.

Can someone please explain the difference between the original plate and the new plate, and is it still possible to select a different colour for the case?

Original - winkey or winkeyless space bar layout
New - 1800 layout

Yes you may change the colours right now.

If you read a few pages back, you can find the answers you're looking for.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:15:11
For those ordering PCBs and Plates only in US, you guys might want to combine orders because each shipment is going to be $40-44...

Also orders for these will be closed now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Sun, 25 May 2014, 21:48:37
Just noticed the invoices say 3.9% fees... it's actually 2.9%.  Not that 1% makes a lot of difference but the PayPal fees line doesn't match what PayPal tells us the fee is.

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 25 May 2014, 22:01:05
Sorry, I just did that for simplicity sake.  Maybe I should receive in CAD next time so I don't have to convert USD into CAD. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Sun, 25 May 2014, 23:33:54
Sorry, I just did that for simplicity sake.  Maybe I should receive in CAD next time so I don't have to convert USD into CAD. :)
Ah, that explains it. Paid and the waiting period/excitement begins!

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tbc on Mon, 26 May 2014, 01:11:26
Sorry, I just did that for simplicity sake.  Maybe I should receive in CAD next time so I don't have to convert USD into CAD. :)

PLEASE do this for viper GB :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Mon, 26 May 2014, 10:35:16
Sorry, I just did that for simplicity sake.  Maybe I should receive in CAD next time so I don't have to convert USD into CAD. :)

PLEASE do this for viper GB :D

Works for me, due to Canadian. <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 26 May 2014, 21:16:20
For those ordering PCBs and Plates only in US, you guys might want to combine orders because each shipment is going to be $40-44...

Also orders for these will be closed now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html

No one in the USA minds the shipping cost? I'll give it another day before I invoice the PCBs only orders..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Mon, 26 May 2014, 22:06:27
I mean I do mind but what are our options? Ship all the US orders to one person who's willing to post individual orders? Could do. I just don't know enough about postage to say if it would actually be cheaper.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 26 May 2014, 23:57:45
I think you'll save about 15-18$ each.

There are 5 US orders and total weight would be 2.6 kg so 3 kg weight which is about $64. About $13 each split amongst the 5 orders.  About $14 to ship within the US?

I don't mind either way.  Not much more work for me but if no one else speaks up, I'll just go ahead and skip this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 27 May 2014, 00:21:33
I think you'll save about 15-18$ each.

There are 5 US orders and total weight would be 2.6 kg so 3 kg weight which is about $64. About $13 each split amongst the 5 orders.  About $14 to ship within the US?

I don't mind either way.  Not much more work for me but if no one else speaks up, I'll just go ahead and skip this.
If no one else minds, I would be happy to proxy those for us US dudes. Just let me know.
Also, I guess no one has backed out on the full buy ah?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Tue, 27 May 2014, 01:22:17
I'd rather not go through a proxy and just pay the full shipping. My Phantom experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 某人cc on Tue, 27 May 2014, 01:49:16
=。=    i can not order。why?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 27 May 2014, 01:54:59
=。=    i can not order。why?
It's too late now.. Orders were closed 2 days ago
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Michael on Tue, 27 May 2014, 01:57:20
=。=    i can not order。why?
It's too late now.. Orders were closed 2 days ago

Quote
Deadline for order is June 6, 2014
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 27 May 2014, 02:07:14
Elton said orders would be closed two days ago. You can still try pm him. there is still hope

For those ordering PCBs and Plates only in US, you guys might want to combine orders because each shipment is going to be $40-44...

Also orders for these will be closed now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 27 May 2014, 06:55:01
=。=    i can not order。why?
pcb and plate yes, there were only 30 orders for the full setup. Those filled up a while ago!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 27 May 2014, 07:54:01
June 6 deadline was meant for the payment
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:00:54
I think you'll save about 15-18$ each.

There are 5 US orders and total weight would be 2.6 kg so 3 kg weight which is about $64. About $13 each split amongst the 5 orders.  About $14 to ship within the US?

I don't mind either way.  Not much more work for me but if no one else speaks up, I'll just go ahead and skip this.
If no one else minds, I would be happy to proxy those for us US dudes. Just let me know.
Also, I guess no one has backed out on the full buy ah?

I would prefer using a proxy if possible. Every penny saved is better in my opinion.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:03:39
I'd rather not go through a proxy and just pay the full shipping. My Phantom experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

[)amien


The proxy in question is only for the PCB orders.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:26:38
I think you'll save about 15-18$ each.

There are 5 US orders and total weight would be 2.6 kg so 3 kg weight which is about $64. About $13 each split amongst the 5 orders.  About $14 to ship within the US?

I don't mind either way.  Not much more work for me but if no one else speaks up, I'll just go ahead and skip this.
If no one else minds, I would be happy to proxy those for us US dudes. Just let me know.
Also, I guess no one has backed out on the full buy ah?

This works for me. I guess we need everybody on board to make it worthwhile though.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 某人cc on Tue, 27 May 2014, 09:47:40
=。=    i can not order。why?
pcb and plate yes, there were only 30 orders for the full setup. Those filled up a while ago!
。。。i want to be cry。In fact, this is my dream keyboard and it is my fist time to come to GH..
maybe it is too late,but give me a chance please..
Or please tell me when the next group buy is..
thanks very much
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 27 May 2014, 09:54:59
=。=    i can not order。why?
pcb and plate yes, there were only 30 orders for the full setup. Those filled up a while ago!
。。。i want to be cry。In fact, this is my dream keyboard and it is my fist time to come to GH..
maybe it is too late,but give me a chance please..
Or please tell me when the next group buy is..
thanks very much

There is a black v1 here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58828.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 27 May 2014, 10:42:05
So there are 5 of us US PCB and plate people. Who else is willing to proxy ship their orders?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:07:38
So there are 5 of us US PCB and plate people. Who else is willing to proxy ship their orders?

I'm in.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 27 May 2014, 11:36:10
So there are 5 of us US PCB and plate people. Who else is willing to proxy ship their orders?

I'm in.

I guess that makes 3 of us. And the other two?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 27 May 2014, 12:51:44
LONGSHOT: Any change someone welshed out and you still have one for sale? (full set)

 :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Tue, 27 May 2014, 13:29:10
So there are 5 of us US PCB and plate people. Who else is willing to proxy ship their orders?

I'm in.

I guess that makes 3 of us. And the other two?

I am fine paying for the shipping myself, I decline the proxy ship option.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 27 May 2014, 22:29:16
Well, even if just a couple of us want to do it, I'm still down to help! I've already got flat rate game boxes sitting at my house! lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 27 May 2014, 22:45:54
Well, even if just a couple of us want to do it, I'm still down to help! I've already got flat rate game boxes sitting at my house! lol

Well we still need to hear from one more person. It he's in then I say let's do it provided the savings are significant.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 28 May 2014, 03:53:07
Hi Elton, I've sent you a PM about resending the invoice to my other Paypal account. Can you reply when you are free? Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 May 2014, 06:21:48

Hi Elton, I've sent you a PM about resending the invoice to my other Paypal account. Can you reply when you are free? Thanks!  ;D

I don't see any PMs from you
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 28 May 2014, 11:18:33
LONGSHOT: Any change someone welshed out and you still have one for sale?
Hmm. Same question, PCB-only. I didn't realize that was actually a thing with this GB until the order period for them was over.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 May 2014, 14:06:31
Well, even if just a couple of us want to do it, I'm still down to help! I've already got flat rate game boxes sitting at my house! lol

Well we still need to hear from one more person. It he's in then I say let's do it provided the savings are significant.

You should message pacifist if he'll do it..

If it's you 4 only then it's $56 for shipping together so $14 each before domestic shipping costs.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 28 May 2014, 15:18:19
Well, even if just a couple of us want to do it, I'm still down to help! I've already got flat rate game boxes sitting at my house! lol

Well we still need to hear from one more person. It he's in then I say let's do it provided the savings are significant.

You should message pacifist if he'll do it..

If it's you 4 only then it's $56 for shipping together so $14 each before domestic shipping costs.

Awaiting his reply.

Hey Apocalypse - how much would our individual shipments cost?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 28 May 2014, 19:49:53
Well, even if just a couple of us want to do it, I'm still down to help! I've already got flat rate game boxes sitting at my house! lol

Well we still need to hear from one more person. It he's in then I say let's do it provided the savings are significant.

You should message pacifist if he'll do it..

If it's you 4 only then it's $56 for shipping together so $14 each before domestic shipping costs.

Awaiting his reply.

Hey Apocalypse - how much would our individual shipments cost?
I believe the flat rate game boxes are $17ish... I'll have to check to make sure, but it's some where around that. Might be cheaper to ship non flat rate too... I'll check all options before shipping for sure.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:51:46
It's a very heavy keyboard kit.  Flat rate large boxes are rather thin and too narrow to put in enough padding.  I'd not risk that.  I'd recommend taller custom boxes and ordering pre-paid labels on-line at USPS.com (there's a discount for priority mail when paying on-line).  Should cost about that anyway, or potentially less depending on distance. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:58:42
It's a very heavy keyboard kit.  Flat rate large boxes are rather thin and too narrow to put in enough padding.  I'd not risk that.  I'd recommend taller custom boxes and ordering pre-paid labels on-line at USPS.com (there's a discount for priority mail when paying on-line).  Should cost about that anyway, or potentially less depending on distance.

The keyboard with housing is heavy but the PCB and plate only?

Unless we hear from pacifist soon I'm inclined to forego the proxy shipping plan and take the hit from direct shipping charges.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 28 May 2014, 22:00:12
Ah yes, the PCB+plate should certainly be fine!  Could ship those for around $10 per set via Priority Mail around the country (paying on-line).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 28 May 2014, 22:01:43
Ah yes, the PCB+plate should certainly be fine!  Could ship those for around $10 per set via Priority Mail around the country (paying on-line).

Then maybe it could still be cheaper to proxy ship even with only 3 people involved...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Wed, 28 May 2014, 23:40:25
Hi Elton , I'm still out of country .  Will sort out my payment when back on Friday


Update : Paid !!
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Post by: Incognito on Fri, 30 May 2014, 04:30:01
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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:40:08
Hi Elton if I would want to modify the layout slightly .. What is the last date for me to submit a revised layout ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:44:58
Just paid! Thank you Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 30 May 2014, 08:09:30
Hmm - I can tell I'm horribly late for this GB - hence this post.

I have been unable to figure out if and where it might possible to buy a fully assembled Lightsaver V2 keyboard in a particular layout with say MX greens ? Outside of this GB I mean.

I'm sorry if this is a silly question that I should have been able to work out for myself  :-[

Inc.

Only way is finding someone selling in the classifieds when they received theirs or someone in South Korea.

Hi Elton if I would want to modify the layout slightly .. What is the last date for me to submit a revised layout ?

June 6. You can PM me the change or submit a new form.

Ah yes, the PCB+plate should certainly be fine!  Could ship those for around $10 per set via Priority Mail around the country (paying on-line).

Then maybe it could still be cheaper to proxy ship even with only 3 people involved...

Any update?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Fri, 30 May 2014, 09:41:56
So far as I can tell it's just apocalypse, crabby_b, and I wanting to proxy. Haven't heard anything from pacifist. What would our three orders cost to ship to Maow?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 30 May 2014, 09:49:02
So far as I can tell it's just apocalypse, crabby_b, and I wanting to proxy. Haven't heard anything from pacifist. What would our three orders cost to ship to Maow?

3 would save very little.  Each plate is .2 kg and PCB is .15 and packaging is .69 kg

2.19 kg for all 3 orders, so about $59 for shipping.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Fri, 30 May 2014, 09:51:29
Yeah forget about it. I'll take my order shipped direct. Not worth the effort at this point. Thanks for trying to save us money though.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Sat, 31 May 2014, 01:19:57
waiting for new invoice. My paypal is ready :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:57:15
Do you have a rough estimate on when production and then shipping will take place? I don't remember reading it in the thread, and it wasn't listed in the first post.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 03 June 2014, 09:32:43
Already paid
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 03 June 2014, 17:40:06
Do you have a rough estimate on when production and then shipping will take place? I don't remember reading it in the thread, and it wasn't listed in the first post.

3rd week of June will begin shipping - what I was told.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 03 June 2014, 18:20:21
Just received my clear switches today. It's now sitting beside black springs and 13 different colored leds.  Sip sockets are coming on the way. Can't wait to receive lightsaver :cool:!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rUr0QjD_8Z4/U45U2H2PYvI/AAAAAAAAAho/wW2bmLzfhyw/w1167-h875-no/IMG_20140603_190237.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 00:36:39
Just received my clear switches today. It's now sitting beside black springs and 13 different colored leds.  Sip sockets are coming on the way. Can't wait to receive lightsaver :cool:!
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rUr0QjD_8Z4/U45U2H2PYvI/AAAAAAAAAho/wW2bmLzfhyw/w1167-h875-no/IMG_20140603_190237.jpg)


Hi Ronnn! Where you bought the switch from?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:34:43
Just received my clear switches today. It's now sitting beside black springs and 13 different colored leds.  Sip sockets are coming on the way. Can't wait to receive lightsaver :cool:!
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rUr0QjD_8Z4/U45U2H2PYvI/AAAAAAAAAho/wW2bmLzfhyw/w1167-h875-no/IMG_20140603_190237.jpg)


Hi Ronnn! Where you bought the switch from?
I got it from mechanicalkeyboards.com
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 04 June 2014, 18:26:51
Just received my clear switches today. It's now sitting beside black springs and 13 different colored leds.  Sip sockets are coming on the way. Can't wait to receive lightsaver :cool:!
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rUr0QjD_8Z4/U45U2H2PYvI/AAAAAAAAAho/wW2bmLzfhyw/w1167-h875-no/IMG_20140603_190237.jpg)


Hi Ronnn! Where you bought the switch from?
I got it from mechanicalkeyboards.com
What springs did you buy? Is that custom spring?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Wed, 04 June 2014, 18:36:13
Just received my clear switches today. It's now sitting beside black springs and 13 different colored leds.  Sip sockets are coming on the way. Can't wait to receive lightsaver :cool:!
Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rUr0QjD_8Z4/U45U2H2PYvI/AAAAAAAAAho/wW2bmLzfhyw/w1167-h875-no/IMG_20140603_190237.jpg)


Hi Ronnn! Where you bought the switch from?
I got it from mechanicalkeyboards.com

What springs did you buy? Is that custom spring?

I got these from Taobao. They are springs from black switches.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 03:40:09
Hi Elton! Have you receive my payment already?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 05 June 2014, 05:01:15
Hi Elton! Have you receive my payment already?

I received it. Didn't update spreadsheet yet
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: frohike on Thu, 05 June 2014, 11:29:48
Is this group buy closed? I still want one, I know it's late :-[
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 05 June 2014, 21:58:38
How much extra would the sips sockets be?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Thu, 05 June 2014, 23:20:17
How much extra would the sips sockets be?

I bought my sip sockets from ebay. $2.7 for 240 sip sockets including shipping.   :eek:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 June 2014, 00:25:10
How much extra would the sips sockets be?

I bought my sip sockets from ebay. $2.7 for 240 sip sockets including shipping.   :eek:
thanks Ron!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sorun on Fri, 06 June 2014, 00:36:51
Hnnggg looks nice, but that price. Jelly of all of you who jumped in on this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Fri, 06 June 2014, 01:03:02
Hnnggg looks nice, but that price. Jelly of all of you who jumped in on this.

Orion was $100 more. I actually though $300 is pretty reasonable.

That reminds me, I have to still have to pay my invoice >_>
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Fri, 06 June 2014, 01:06:48
Never regret for a split of a second, even all my friends think I am crazy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 06 June 2014, 08:50:21
Never regret for a split of a second, even all my friends think I am crazy.
+1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 06 June 2014, 10:20:40
Everytime there's a post in this thread I get erect. :o
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 06 June 2014, 10:21:26
Everytime there's a post in this thread I get erect. :o

Hahaha, I feel ya :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 June 2014, 10:58:55
BEST. DAY. EVER!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 06 June 2014, 11:07:15
BEST. DAY. EVER!!!

Why is it the best day ever, Sir?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:30:17
got in on the full buy, holla
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Fri, 06 June 2014, 19:37:05
Invoice paid.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 06 June 2014, 20:48:21
PAID!!! I don't think you guys know how stoked I am for this!!!
(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/12/carlton_dance-103973.gif)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 08 June 2014, 23:36:29
http://kbdlab.co.kr/d/board_Lsno50/6970

Anyone have more info on this LightSaver acrylic dock? I believe I have the drawings for the case it attaches to but I can't find drawings for the dock itself. Suppose I could design my own...

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Also does anyone know what exactly is meant by "reinforcement" for acrylic housing? They seem to use plates in unreinforced versions so is reinforcement just an additional layer of acrylic? I'm using auto translate by the way as I don't read Korean. Translation is a bit rough.

Apologies for the questions.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 08 June 2014, 23:47:28
I think they meant that you can also use a reinforced steel plate (1.5t) on their acrylic housing like Orion and that acrylic housing Duck posted.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: vultures on Sun, 08 June 2014, 23:49:41
no more slot for this? :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: AKmalamute on Sun, 08 June 2014, 23:58:03
no more slot for this? :(
No more slots. This was a limited run and they filled up pretty quickly.

I think production is coming up soon too, so even the chance to buy somebody's cancelled order is slim. Speaking of which, still no chance for me to get a bare PCB, I assume?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 09 June 2014, 00:01:32
If you want to pay $35 shipping just for a PCB.

These are already in production. Estimated shipping time will be around 3rd week of June.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 09 June 2014, 03:37:31
Thanks. I think i can cut acrylic plate follow this file which duck0113 shared :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:26:03
Just checking, but from what I see, this pcb does support pcb mount switches... right?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:29:16
Just checking, but from what I see, this pcb does support pcb mount switches... right?

yes
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 09 June 2014, 20:31:35
Just checking, but from what I see, this pcb does support pcb mount switches... right?

yes
Thanks again, RON!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:17:57
So do most of you get your stabilisers from Mouser? Been searching GeekHack and DT for everybody's favourite source. Mouser and WASD seem to be the main ones. Haven't found anything on eBay.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Tue, 10 June 2014, 18:43:51
So do most of you get your stabilisers from Mouser? Been searching GeekHack and DT for everybody's favourite source. Mouser and WASD seem to be the main ones. Haven't found anything on eBay.

Imsto has pcb mount stabs with 6.2 and 7u spacebar wires.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Vintage on Tue, 10 June 2014, 19:22:12
Thx, was wonderin where to source those myself. He sells cherry or costar?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 10 June 2014, 20:45:19
Seems to be cherry. Only one kind though and I'm not sure if it's for modifiers or space bar.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 10 June 2014, 21:08:48
There's GON if you can offset the shipping price somehow
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: keyit on Wed, 11 June 2014, 17:23:59
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56052.0

YUIOP sells stabs. Ordered a set last week, got it yesterday
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 11 June 2014, 17:57:34
Went with IMSTO for better or worse. I believe it was a set though I don't know if I'm getting x7 or x6.2
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:18:34
it's the third week!
its coming! very excited....
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 16 June 2014, 09:39:09
It's out there...somewhere!

(http://i.imgur.com/HPkosdr.gif)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 11:08:47
They said next week. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 16 June 2014, 12:21:09
They said next week. Sorry guys.

Next week for production start? Finish? Ending the world?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xuan8 on Mon, 16 June 2014, 13:16:42
Will there be another group buy like this one in the future??? cant believe I missed out  :'(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 16 June 2014, 19:43:48
They said next week. Sorry guys.

Next week for production start? Finish? Ending the world?
End of the world fo sho.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Mon, 16 June 2014, 21:00:41
Will there be another group buy like this one in the future??? cant believe I missed out  :'(

Yes/No/Maybe.

They said next week. Sorry guys.

Next week for production start? Finish? Ending the world?
End of the world fo sho.


I pray that God will be merciful and let me complete another end-game keyboard before He in all His glory and wisdom decides to end the world as we know it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 17 June 2014, 05:22:20
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh495/jokrik89/Mech%20Keyboard/CameraZOOM-20140617180824253_zpstlto3mng.jpg) (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/jokrik89/media/Mech%20Keyboard/CameraZOOM-20140617180824253_zpstlto3mng.jpg.html)

So ready!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 17 June 2014, 05:49:28
sort of ready....http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/7f9bea6f6670a8f44e5e4c0739323931 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/7f9bea6f6670a8f44e5e4c0739323931)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 17 June 2014, 05:56:57
Same here. Sort of ready. ...thanks to dragonken helping get this key set though I haven't paid him yet...

Minus RGB set and coloured enter key and arrows.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/17/arena2aq.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:01:24
that would be my alternate layout (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/67f93c3f74294f6dc68c9a5d5c23ba50 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/67f93c3f74294f6dc68c9a5d5c23ba50)) for the extra pcb/plate that i ordered.
i'm hoping that this layout http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/7f9bea6f6670a8f44e5e4c0739323931 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/7f9bea6f6670a8f44e5e4c0739323931) would still be stable even without the plate.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:04:08
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:12:44
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:29:49
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from

I will check this link later (can't access this site from work).

How much did you pay in the end after shipping and agent fees?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:42:30
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from

I will check this link later (can't access this site from work).

How much did you pay in the end after shipping and agent fees?

It's about $60 to my country (incl. shipping)
It's not the price I'm afraid of , its the condition of the keycaps

Luckily it came in good shape and I bought it from the same seller as the link I gave you
He seems to have more than 1 in stock
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 17 June 2014, 07:32:31
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from

I will check this link later (can't access this site from work).

How much did you pay in the end after shipping and agent fees?

It's about $60 to my country (incl. shipping)
It's not the price I'm afraid of , its the condition of the keycaps

Luckily it came in good shape and I bought it from the same seller as the link I gave you
He seems to have more than 1 in stock

that's a good price, considering they have to ship to Death Star.  :))
kidding aside, those are nice looking keycaps.
i worry about ordering parts from taobao.
some of the stabilizers i got had some rust in them  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Altuz on Tue, 17 June 2014, 08:24:59
Hmm, I don't know if this is the correct place to ask this, but I guess it is somewhat related.

I got a LightSaver from the Originative group buy months ago, and I lost one of the rubber feets while travelling.

Any idea where I can buy those?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 19 June 2014, 11:32:47
Hmm, I don't know if this is the correct place to ask this, but I guess it is somewhat related.

I got a LightSaver from the Originative group buy months ago, and I lost one of the rubber feets while travelling.

Any idea where I can buy those?
I got a set of clear ones from my local Home Depot. :D

They said next week. Sorry guys.
Next week for production or shipping?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:34:52
Does someone have an ebay link they would recommend for SIP sockets for LED swapping?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 19 June 2014, 13:07:15
I would but I'm on my phone but there is a thread about it somewhere.

Production is done.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 19 June 2014, 13:44:28
I would but I'm on my phone but there is a thread about it somewhere.

Production is done.

So excited. :D

Elton can you PM me before shipping is confirmed by chance? Might want to change address..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 19 June 2014, 23:37:40
I would but I'm on my phone but there is a thread about it somewhere.

Production is done.

YYYYYYYIIIIIISSSS!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Thu, 19 June 2014, 23:41:12
Does someone have an ebay link they would recommend for SIP sockets for LED swapping?

I got mine from here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140910386490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Bought two for $2.7 (enough for 120 switches)include shipping
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 20 June 2014, 04:02:22
Does someone have an ebay link they would recommend for SIP sockets for LED swapping?

I got mine from here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140910386490?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Bought two for $2.7 (enough for 120 switches)include shipping
Again Ron, you're the man!  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:30:23
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from

Is that left shift looking smaller than it should be to anyone else?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Fri, 20 June 2014, 18:28:04
Beautiful Elton!

From which board is this set? I am planning to use a similar QWERTZ set that lacks the short right shift key and has a 2x Plus key on the numpad.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.29.4oayCV&id=16620743597&ns=1#detail
Get a tao bao agent, it's where I got mine from

Is that left shift looking smaller than it should be to anyone else?

The shifts are swapped...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 21 June 2014, 22:49:09
Oh good catch
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:00:47
I can't stop looking at pictures of lightsavers...

What kind of switches you guys going with? I got clears...
Never used them, but I love browns and always hear how good they are.
I have a single one and it's nice, but kinda hard to get a feel for typing with one
switch...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:11:29
I went with MX Blues because those are my favorite switches. No experiments for this one!

Stock MX Clears are too stiff for me. Do you get them modded to ergo clears?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:19:35
I went with MX Blues because those are my favorite switches. No experiments for this one!

Stock MX Clears are too stiff for me. Do you get them modded to ergo clears?
I was thinking of that too... I haven't got the switches yet, they're on there way from MK. I'll be doing stickers and lube, so I might change out my springs too...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:25:14
I got clears too, but haven't had a chance to feel it on a real keyboard. Brown is my favorite switch so far(only tried blue, red, black and brown).
Maybe I will get some 78g gold spring from sprit, but I don't think I can wait..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:29:09
I got clears too, but haven't had a chance to feel it on a real keyboard. Brown is my favorite switch so far(only tried blue, red, black and brown).
Maybe I will get some 78g gold spring from sprit, but I don't think I can wait..
I've got some 80g from sherry... I want to say those were close to 72g...
 :confused:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 22 June 2014, 01:36:43
Got greens and tactile greys from 7bit. I've never tried greys so it should be interesting to see if they're any good.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 22 June 2014, 02:23:50
I can't stop looking at pictures of lightsavers...

What kind of switches you guys going with? I got clears...
Never used them, but I love browns and always hear how good they are.
I have a single one and it's nice, but kinda hard to get a feel for typing with one
switch...

I'll be lubing some clears up for this board.  May or may not swap springs, that will depend on how I feel about varying spring weights. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 22 June 2014, 08:19:05
I went with MX Blues because those are my favorite switches. No experiments for this one!

Stock MX Clears are too stiff for me. Do you get them modded to ergo clears?
My brother!
love blues too but I'll go with white switch for this (with white cover :D )
ever tried white? its growing on me
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:09:32
I'm going with MX greens. I'm like 60 short though. :eek;

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/22/nabusuqe.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:19:20
I've been looking around for transparent cover
no luck :(
but I guess white switch with white cover isn't bad at all...
*trying to cheer myself*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:22:33
I've been looking around for transparent cover
no luck :(
but I guess white switch with white cover isn't bad at all...
*trying to cheer myself*

I ordered my MX blues with transparent covers directly from 7Bit. These covers are made by Cherry and fit 100%.

I heard that the after market replacement covers had some issues...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:26:23
I've been looking around for transparent cover
no luck :(
but I guess white switch with white cover isn't bad at all...
*trying to cheer myself*

I ordered my MX blues with transparent covers directly from 7Bit. These covers are made by Cherry and fit 100%.

I heard that the after market replacement covers had some issues...

isn't that still on pre-order stage
and his group buy usually takes a while (in a good way) right?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 22 June 2014, 09:28:33
I've been looking around for transparent cover
no luck :(
but I guess white switch with white cover isn't bad at all...
*trying to cheer myself*

I ordered my MX blues with transparent covers directly from 7Bit. These covers are made by Cherry and fit 100%.

I heard that the after market replacement covers had some issues...

isn't that still on pre-order stage
and his group buy usually takes a while (in a good way) right?

Yes, I don't have them yet, but it shouldn't be much longer.

Actually I should read up on his giant thread again :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 22 June 2014, 13:01:43
Do the plates allow for switch removal without desoldering? Not that it would matter for me.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:01:54
Do the plates allow for switch removal without desoldering? Not that it would matter for me.

No, I don't think V1 had this feature.

But maybe they changed it for V2?!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:02:48
I've been looking around for transparent cover
no luck :(
but I guess white switch with white cover isn't bad at all...
*trying to cheer myself*

I ordered my MX blues with transparent covers directly from 7Bit. These covers are made by Cherry and fit 100%.

I heard that the after market replacement covers had some issues...

isn't that still on pre-order stage
and his group buy usually takes a while (in a good way) right?

Yes, I don't have them yet, but it shouldn't be much longer.

Actually I should read up on his giant thread again :p

LINK? I want!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:06:07
Here you go:

http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:10:23
Here you go:

http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html

.50 EURO each..that's pretty steep!

You can't remove switches after soldering unfortunately.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:19:30
Here you go:

http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html

.50 EURO each..that's pretty steep!

You can't remove switches after soldering unfortunately.

Can you point us to a cheaper source?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:20:57
Here you go:

http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html

.50 EURO each..that's pretty steep!

You can't remove switches after soldering unfortunately.

Can you point us to a cheaper source?

No..but I don't really want to spend $80 (110x) on just switch cases..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 22 June 2014, 14:25:32
Here you go:

http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html

.50 EURO each..that's pretty steep!

You can't remove switches after soldering unfortunately.

Can you point us to a cheaper source?

No..but I don't really want to spend $80 (110x) on just switch cases..

Oh - covers. Sorry I thought you meant switches.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 18:03:57
I have some not so great news.

There is a delay in shipping. I apologize on their behalf.  The lightsaver sets will ship next Friday and PCB/Plate orders will ship sometime this weekend.  For those with assembly option will have to wait 2 more weeks.

Again, I apologize on their behalf for the delay.  Somewhat expected, so I should've added a few weeks extra with the estimated time they given me.  I'll do that next time. ;)

I am eager as you are in receiving this set as I participated as well, so I hope we get them soon!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 25 June 2014, 20:21:39
no worries Elton :), appreciate the honest update :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:13:33
thanks Elton for the update.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:21:06
Nice!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 25 June 2014, 21:51:32
I have some not so great news.

There is a delay in shipping. I apologize on their behalf.  The lightsaver sets will ship next Friday and PCB/Plate orders will ship sometime this weekend.  For those with assembly option will have to wait 2 more weeks.

Again, I apologize on their behalf for the delay.  Somewhat expected, so I should've added a few weeks extra with the estimated time they given me.  I'll do that next time. ;)

I am eager as you are in receiving this set as I participated as well, so I hope we get them soon!

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:46:11
is it possible to split the numpad 0 on this board?
i realize i missed this buy [not sure why I passed it over]
if I can split the numpad 0 I might be on the hunt for one of these.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:52:58
I have some not so great news.

There is a delay in shipping. I apologize on their behalf.  The lightsaver sets will ship next Friday and PCB/Plate orders will ship sometime this weekend.  For those with assembly option will have to wait 2 more weeks.

Again, I apologize on their behalf for the delay.  Somewhat expected, so I should've added a few weeks extra with the estimated time they given me.  I'll do that next time. ;)

I am eager as you are in receiving this set as I participated as well, so I hope we get them soon!
Thanks :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 25 June 2014, 23:55:23
is it possible to split the numpad 0 on this board?
i realize i missed this buy [not sure why I passed it over]
if I can split the numpad 0 I might be on the hunt for one of these.

Yes.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/LightSaver2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383177641)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 26 June 2014, 00:01:45
is it possible to split the numpad 0 on this board?
i realize i missed this buy [not sure why I passed it over]
if I can split the numpad 0 I might be on the hunt for one of these.

Yes.

Show Image
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/LightSaver2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383177641)


Oh for the love of god. Why didn't I order one.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 26 June 2014, 09:01:23
S'all good my homie. <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 26 June 2014, 09:26:00
Since shipping is near I'll have to ask this:

Do I understand it correctly that the boards will be shipped directly from Korea?

Elton, can you influence what they put on the box? I am looking at 20% import tax so it would be great, if the box was declared 40$ or something instead of 400$...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 26 June 2014, 09:57:48
Since shipping is near I'll have to ask this:

Do I understand it correctly that the boards will be shipped directly from Korea?

Elton, can you influence what they put on the box? I am looking at 20% import tax so it would be great, if the box was declared 40$ or something instead of 400$...
+1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:13:58
They usually undervalue the items. You should know pasph, you've ordered from me couple times. Have they done that?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 26 June 2014, 13:15:29
Indeed, hope this time they'll do the same :)
The Duck leftovers, where are those?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 26 June 2014, 21:59:07
When will we receive the shipping notifications (or we won't)?

Also, how long does it take for Korea to ship to Malaysia anyway?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Thu, 26 June 2014, 22:18:38
Wohoo !! Malaysia LightSvrV2 group member number 2. Can't wait for this !!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 22:25:14
When will we receive the shipping notifications (or we won't)?

Also, how long does it take for Korea to ship to Malaysia anyway?

I'll let you know the tracking # once they're shipped.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 26 June 2014, 23:05:56
Wohoo !! Malaysia LightSvrV2 group member number 2. Can't wait for this !!!
Woots! How come I don't see you in LYN? Heh.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 27 June 2014, 05:04:37
If anyone needs money more than a board I've decided I need this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:28:58
If anyone needs money more than a board I've decided I need this.

2 V1's for sale here at a very good price:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59861.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59861.0)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 04 July 2014, 07:31:04
Any updates? :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 04 July 2014, 08:10:23
Any updates? :)
he said he is preparing ship pcb& plate for me
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Fri, 04 July 2014, 10:27:49
i get so excited when there's new post on this thread.  :))
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Sun, 06 July 2014, 16:53:38
Any news, Elton?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 17:02:25
They just shipped the PCBs/Plate only orders on Friday.  I was told the sets will be shipped shortly after.

I just sent tracking #'s to those orders through PM.  It was too much work to send each individually..For the set orders, I will post them on the spreadsheet for you to see amongst yourselves!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sun, 06 July 2014, 19:14:26
They just shipped the PCBs/Plate only orders on Friday.  I was told the sets will be shipped shortly after.

I just sent tracking #'s to those orders through PM.  It was too much work to send each individually..For the set orders, I will post them on the spreadsheet for you to see amongst yourselves!

thank you Elton
looking forward to the update/spreadsheet for the sets
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:09:02
wooh woooooh!!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:13:26
They just shipped the PCBs/Plate only orders on Friday.  I was told the sets will be shipped shortly after.

Are the "sets" the assembled boards? thanks Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:25:22
They did say that the assembled boards will take a little longer. Let me confirm.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:26:31
They did say that the assembled boards will take a little longer. Let me confirm.

No worries at all, just wondering, thanks dude :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 07 July 2014, 01:11:03
Thanks for the update!

Could you arrange something concerning the customs declaration on the box?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Mon, 07 July 2014, 23:20:24
So my PCBs and plate arrived today. Apparently EMS is quick. All I can say about the packaging is that it was thorough. Took me ten minutes to get to the goods. The precaution is appreciated though.

The plate smells like fire. Also appreciated.

Edit: My thanks to Elton, Booduck, and Byungho (which my phone wants to correct to "bunghole.")

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/08/senema2e.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 08 July 2014, 02:14:22
wow. that's quick!
congrats!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 08 July 2014, 07:59:49
No joke! Congrats animal!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 09 July 2014, 17:43:20
wtb Round 2! =]
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 09 July 2014, 18:35:54
wtb Round 2! =]

I'll second that :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 09 July 2014, 21:41:08
wtb Round 2! =]

I'll second that :)

+1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ckar on Wed, 09 July 2014, 21:51:36
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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 July 2014, 21:59:38
Why is the keyboard angle so steep for this particular keyboard? It is practically unusable based on what I have seen in the pictures.

That is personal preference and I know quite a few people who would disagree.   ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 10 July 2014, 00:08:25
Why is the keyboard angle so steep for this particular keyboard? It is practically unusable based on what I have seen in the pictures.



Why is the keyboard angle so steep for this particular keyboard? It is practically unusable based on what I have seen in the pictures.


That is personal preference and I know quite a few people who would disagree.   ;)

Yup. I use mine with a steep angle. My fingers are shorter than my palms, so I generally prefer to type with a steeper angle than what most would consider ergonomic, and I hate using a palm rest.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 10 July 2014, 00:13:06
Why is the keyboard angle so steep for this particular keyboard? It is practically unusable based on what I have seen in the pictures.



If its the same as the viper,which is 11 degrees, I don't think is that steep.  It's about the same as my GON.  I'm more worried about the front height than the angle.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 10 July 2014, 00:43:37
I took some measurements and did some trig - a flat QFR is about 6 degrees and the feet will raise it to 11 degrees so the Lightsaver case should feel fine for people who regularly use feet.  Whether or not you like using feet though, most cases at least allow you to toggle between the two.  I'm hoping Duck will take this into account for their future products since the case elevation is the only problem I have with the Lightsaver.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ckar on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:07:03
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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:17:55
Yeah, the angle really bothered me and made me skip Round 1. I always use my boards flat on the table.

But whatever ... the Lightsaver looks so nice, that I had to order one.

I simply told myself "If I can't get used to it, there are always the classifieds" :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:35:28
Yeah, the angle really bothered me and made me skip Round 1. I always use my boards flat on the table.

But whatever ... the Lightsaver looks so nice, that I had to order one.

I simply told myself "If I can't get used to it, there are always the classifieds" :)
I just needed something to go on my mantle...  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:01:52
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:07:39
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?

Really?  I'm all for discussion, but I do not come to this thread to see people bash this keyboard.  It's not that you're doing anything explicitly wrong here, it's just...why?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:11:23
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?

Really?  I'm all for discussion, but I do not come to this thread to see people bash this keyboard.  It's not that you're doing anything explicitly wrong here, it's just...why?

I'm just (giving moral support to ckar/trolling).  I'm looking forward to getting this.  It will get me off my ass and unload the random boards i have stacked in closets...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:13:48
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?

Really?  I'm all for discussion, but I do not come to this thread to see people bash this keyboard.  It's not that you're doing anything explicitly wrong here, it's just...why?

Agreed. If you believe it's "unusable" then simply don't buy one and be on your way. People have differing preferences and those who have ordered a Lightsaver won't be dissuaded by your opinion.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 10 July 2014, 09:07:39
I think it's useful to give feedback to the organizer why you didn't buy a product or what improvements could be made.  I bought a full LS kit, but I still think the 11 degree default elevation is too steep even if it's not a deal breaker.

Perhaps such feedback would be more appropriate in the IC/discussion threads for Duck's upcoming 75% (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60293.0) or upcoming 60% (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58074.0) boards.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ckar on Thu, 10 July 2014, 10:16:51
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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 10:22:25
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?

Really?  I'm all for discussion, but I do not come to this thread to see people bash this keyboard.  It's not that you're doing anything explicitly wrong here, it's just...why?

Agreed. If you believe it's "unusable" then simply don't buy one and be on your way. People have differing preferences and those who have ordered a Lightsaver won't be dissuaded by your opinion.

I am saying there is no reason for a keyboard to be this steep. Making it so will alienate more customers than it brings in.

The design just doesn't make any sense from a usability point of view (because flatter keyboards are better).

It doesn't make sense from a monetary point of view (A steep keyboard will result in less customers. The majority of people do not use steep keyboards).

(PS: The steepness of the keyboard also looks strange, so there is another hit based on a aesthetic point of view.)

It is not as simple as not buying, but rather the seller is trying to pass off a flawed product to many people.

This is a limited run that sold out in mere hours.  So most of your points about losing money are invalid.

And given that it did sell out so quick, I'm inclined (heh) to believe that many people are fans of the steepness, both for usability and aesthetics.  I categorize myself as one such person.

Obviously if everyone agreed with you, no one would have bought this.  Therefore, I think it's safe to assume (still) that this is a matter of preference and not an absolute, as you are presenting it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 10 July 2014, 10:30:13

I am saying there is no reason for a keyboard to be this steep. Making it so will alienate more customers than it brings in.

The design just doesn't make any sense from a usability point of view (because flatter keyboards are better).

It doesn't make sense from a monetary point of view (A steep keyboard will result in less customers).

(PS: The steepness of the keyboard also looks strange, so there is another hit based on a aesthetic point of view.)

It is not as simple as not buying, but rather the seller is trying to pass off a flawed product to many people.


LOL.  Such a troll.  They don't need that many customers.  It was originally a run of 15 that was expanded to 30.  So you don't like it.  Cool.  You can't buy it (as of now) anyway, so what's the issue?  The board's very existence offend your more delicate sensibilities, I take it?  It's awesome that in the month you have been active here that you have come to the conclusion that "flatter keyboards are better" and "the steepness looks strange."  Learn something new every day.  I guess I'll have to learn to love mine once it arrives despite these now obvious flaws.  Or build a flatter board with the extra pcb I ordered.   :thumb:

edit: hoff beat me to a rebuttal  :))
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 10 July 2014, 10:33:43
It is not as simple as not buying, but rather the seller is trying to pass off a flawed product to many people.

Regardless of whether or not flatter is better, there are certainly many people who prefer feet and for those people, this case is perfect.  I do not think anyone involved in producing this GB thought they were selling a flawed product.

Or build a flatter board with the extra pcb I ordered.   :thumb:

That is my plan as well :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:05:24
Exactly, most people don't use feet on their keyboard (you are not suppose to, flatter keyboards are better for typing) and this keyboard is too steep (has the "feet" always on). It makes it unusable.

I sometimes use the feet on my filco, sometimes not.  If anything, the board's angle makes it unusable to you.  On the bright side, you won't want to spend $400+ in the classifieds when one (or more) of the 30 people who got the full set decides they need money more than they need a heavy programmable keyboard.

(The steepness also makes the keyboard look funny, but that is a minor issue compared to the steepness, but one look at the keyboard and you know it looks so strange and there is something wrong with it).

LOL.  And there are no spaces between the function and the number row.  WTF?

Really?  I'm all for discussion, but I do not come to this thread to see people bash this keyboard.  It's not that you're doing anything explicitly wrong here, it's just...why?

Agreed. If you believe it's "unusable" then simply don't buy one and be on your way. People have differing preferences and those who have ordered a Lightsaver won't be dissuaded by your opinion.

I am saying there is no reason for a keyboard to be this steep. Making it so will alienate more customers than it brings in.

The design just doesn't make any sense from a usability point of view (because flatter keyboards are better).

It doesn't make sense from a monetary point of view (A steep keyboard will result in less customers. The vast majority of people do not use steep keyboards).

(PS: The steepness of the keyboard also looks strange, so there is another hit based on a aesthetic point of view.)

It is not as simple as not buying, but rather the seller is trying to pass off a flawed product to many people.

So?

I like steep keyboards, and I like the form factor.

If being steep makes it so horrendous for you, stop acting like elton killed your firstborn with the lightsaver and bring your opinions to somewhere that matters.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Thu, 10 July 2014, 12:15:45
Just my 2 boards in, and Got the DWG file ready, I just need to actually go to my local laser cutting workshop to get my case made.

And choose the color of my Plexiglas, which is going to be the hardest part for me. Do I want to make a case that matches the Toxic keyset I got? or do a plain black/grey or completely clear.  Im thinking Clear Yellow mixed with a Clear orange for some "text inlay" on the bottom of the board for fun. Should I write toxic or lightsaver? choices, choices.

This package was extremely well packed. My 2 boards and plates came in a box big enough for 4 whole assembled keyboards, Im very glad I made it in on the last day for ordering.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:13:16
Just my 2 boards in, and Got the DWG file ready, I just need to actually go to my local laser cutting workshop to get my case made.

And choose the color of my Plexiglas, which is going to be the hardest part for me. Do I want to make a case that matches the Toxic keyset I got? or do a plain black/grey or completely clear.  Im thinking Clear Yellow mixed with a Clear orange for some "text inlay" on the bottom of the board for fun. Should I write toxic or lightsaver? choices, choices.

This package was extremely well packed. My 2 boards and plates came in a box big enough for 4 whole assembled keyboards, Im very glad I made it in on the last day for ordering.

Can you post a link to the .dwg?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:15:40
I hope another group buy for this keyboard happens at some point.  It would be lovely to have this. 

From everything that I've seen duck just seems to make amazing quality products.

Is Duck made up of a few people or many?
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:31:56
I've posted the dwgs somewhere here. I'll post it when it get home unless someone else beats me to it. ;)

Duck is one person, but the whole project is comprised of TrueCustom and Duck and their employees.

ckar, you are entitled to your incorrect opinions...just be happy with your real force. No need to bash on what you dislike.

Maybe you can make a thread on how you hate steep keyboards rant.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Thu, 10 July 2014, 18:58:18
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2

For the people who want the DWG for the Acrylic Housing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ckar on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:20:47
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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:21:39
I wish I could get a drawing of the aluminium housing. But I'm sure Duck won't release that for obvious reasons. Maybe I'll just design my own. I'll be sure to make it steep.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:24:27



Yup. I use mine with a steep angle. My fingers are shorter than my palms, so I generally prefer to type with a steeper angle than what most would consider ergonomic, and I hate using a palm rest.

Post a picture of your hand.



I've posted the dwgs somewhere here. I'll post it when it get home unless someone else beats me to it. ;)

Duck is one person, but the whole project is comprised of TrueCustom and Duck and their employees.

ckar, you are entitled to your incorrect opinions...just be happy with your real force. No need to bash on what you dislike.

Maybe you can make a thread on how you hate steep keyboards rant.


My opinion is correct. Flatter keyboards are better: http://lifehacker.com/leave-your-keyboard-feet-folded-in-for-better-ergonomic-514381372

Seriously go away. This isn't an interest check/discussion thread. Post a rant elsewhere.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:50:59
Elton any update for the folks who bought assembly? thanks  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:05:26
Are there any plans on doing another GB for this keyboard? I saw this a while back, but I didn't realize the brilliance of the layout at the time.
I also had no money.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:06:28


Yup. I use mine with a steep angle. My fingers are shorter than my palms, so I generally prefer to type with a steeper angle than what most would consider ergonomic, and I hate using a palm rest.

Post a picture of your hand.



I've posted the dwgs somewhere here. I'll post it when it get home unless someone else beats me to it. ;)

Duck is one person, but the whole project is comprised of TrueCustom and Duck and their employees.

ckar, you are entitled to your incorrect opinions...just be happy with your real force. No need to bash on what you dislike.

Maybe you can make a thread on how you hate steep keyboards rant.


My opinion is correct. Flatter keyboards are better: http://lifehacker.com/leave-your-keyboard-feet-folded-in-for-better-ergonomic-514381372


Show Image
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Dear God, you read lifehack? A "blog" that lists the Logitech MKB as the "best" desktop keyboard ahead of other MKBs, and lists the Razer as the "best" mechanical keyboard?

Excellent! Requesting mod intervention on this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:59:10

Dear God, you read lifehack? A "blog" that lists the Logitech MKB as the "best" desktop keyboard ahead of other MKBs, and lists the Razer as the "best" mechanical keyboard?

Excellent! Requesting mod intervention on this.

Heh, I met this dude once who knows what the internet is and he agreed with me so.....

But yeah, at this point this has firmly moved into the realm of thread crapping. It's an excellent conversation to have. In a different thread in a different section of this site.

The article itself doesn't speak in absolutes. It says IF the angle is too great, and it makes no attempts to define that angle.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:02:01
Elton, do you think there will be a chance of another group buy for these in the not-to-distant future?  Or, is Duck focusing on other new boards? 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Sat, 12 July 2014, 08:39:56
Elton, do you think there will be a chance of another group buy for these in the not-to-distant future?  Or, is Duck focusing on other new boards?

^ i wouldn't miss it again if there's V3 (Round 3)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 12 July 2014, 15:09:11
Elton, do you think there will be a chance of another group buy for these in the not-to-distant future?  Or, is Duck focusing on other new boards?

^ i wouldn't miss it again if there's V3 (Round 3)

Let's start the quote chain of people who want a v3!  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:20:03
Elton, do you think there will be a chance of another group buy for these in the not-to-distant future?  Or, is Duck focusing on other new boards?

I somehow doubt it, with the Viper/Eagle GB starting immediately after the v2 ships, and then maybe duck/TC will want to produce that 75% keyboard they're currently brainstorming on.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:36:43
So I just got around to taking a close look at my lightsaver parts, considering different layouts, and I notice that the acrylic version of the plate has fewer layout options than the tray-style plate I've seen posted by Photoelectric and others. What it means is that I cannot use a 6.25x spacebar, left winkey, FN, etc. The only option I have is a 7x space, ctrl and alt on the left. What I cant figure out is why the acrylic version has these differences beyond the extra tabs that secure it between layers of acrylic. I was made aware of the extra tabs, though not the limited layout options, when Elton PM'd me about my options. I'm guessing he didn't know. Really wishing I had just taken the tray version of the plate. I was pretty excited to start assembling today but now I'm just disappointed.

My only options as I see it would be to modify the plate or not used it at all which I don't really want to consider. Modifying the plate would require a drawing of the tray version of the plate as I don't want to end up with sloppy cutouts. But it's plausible since my background is in metalworking/machining. Does anyone have any thoughts short of waiting for the V3 GB?

So sad guys :'(

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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:49:07
acrylic version and tray-style version of the plate? Oh wait, did i miss something?? does that mean the new version of the plate only works on acrylic case?!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:52:54
I think I said that the separate plate orders would only include the "new plate" option which only uses 1.5 1.5 7x 1.5 1.5 1 1 layout.  The "original plate" would include the V1 layouts.

I don't think the acrylic or tray style plate would make any difference in the layout.  The acrylic version has the tabs outside the plate like shown in that picture
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:55:41
No. I was given the option between the tray and the acrylic versions by Elton before shipping. Since I don't have the aluminium case I opted for the acrylic version unaware of its limited layout options.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:59:57
Hmm I suppose you did. Any idea why Duck decided the "new plate" would have fewer options?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 22:01:45
The option was given to those who only ordered separate PCBs and plates since they don't have a case, they were given a choice. However, acrylic or case version did not make the layout limited.  It was because there was only one choice of layout with this order; the new plate layout option.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Sun, 13 July 2014, 22:01:55
I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.

Yeah, found it, elton said it here
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 13 July 2014, 22:05:14
Hmm I suppose you did. Any idea why Duck decided the "new plate" would have fewer options?

I'm guessing they couldn't implement that arrow cluster that the 1800 layout has with the current plate design
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 13 July 2014, 22:33:24
Hmm I suppose you did. Any idea why Duck decided the "new plate" would have fewer options?

I'm guessing they couldn't implement that arrow cluster that the 1800 layout has with the current plate design

Makes sense now that I'm looking at it. The 1800 layout is not bad at all so I'll just find a way to make this work.  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 14 July 2014, 07:12:33
looks like a very nice keyboard, gonna post some NIB Model M's on ebay this week in order to gather some dinero for V3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Mon, 14 July 2014, 12:25:36
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2

For the people who want the DWG for the Acrylic Housing.

Is anyone able to view this at the proper size? I am trying to have a case made and the size of the layout fits on a 8.5x11 sheet, which is not right.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 15 July 2014, 01:59:06
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kle5635 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 03:17:18
So when do you guys estimate to start the Viper/Eagle GB? in other words, when will you finish shipping all the V2?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Tue, 15 July 2014, 12:20:10
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=209&mid=board_housing

Some acrylic housing for the L V2

For the people who want the DWG for the Acrylic Housing.

Is anyone able to view this at the proper size? I am trying to have a case made and the size of the layout fits on a 8.5x11 sheet, which is not right.

Measuring the frames in DWG True View gives me 363 mm for the plate and 377mm for the other parts of the case, wich is around 14 inches, I only measure and view CAD's professionally so I can only say that it looks like the right dimensions, maybe you are plotting it incorrectly like its a blueprint to print on paper instead of its actual size?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Tue, 15 July 2014, 12:31:41
I think that is the issue. The place that I sent it to wanted me to convert it to .ai so he could us it in Illustrator..

Turns out I am an idiot, I just needed to create the artboard the proper size in Illustrator.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 15 July 2014, 13:09:16
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Also curious about this, I would definitely buy a pair if someone does a small order.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:08:21
deleted, no reason to go there
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:12:47
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Also curious about this, I would definitely buy a pair if someone does a small order.

I'd be interested as well!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:18:57
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Also curious about this, I would definitely buy a pair if someone does a small order.
If you guys want, I could talk to ACC about doing a small run. I talked with them earlier about doing some
personal work for plates... Shawn (the contact from ACC) his brother runs a water jet acrylic cutting place too. I showed
him some GON style cases and he says it wouldn't be a problem to try it out. I don't know if they would look as good, but
might be worth a shot?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:20:31

It was dead until you decided to go and revive it.

I killed it!
I was debating if there was any benefit and the answer was a big "no".
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:55:12
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Also curious about this, I would definitely buy a pair if someone does a small order.
If you guys want, I could talk to ACC about doing a small run. I talked with them earlier about doing some
personal work for plates... Shawn (the contact from ACC) his brother runs a water jet acrylic cutting place too. I showed
him some GON style cases and he says it wouldn't be a problem to try it out. I don't know if they would look as good, but
might be worth a shot?
I'd be interested in buying into one for the duck viper/eagle (theyre different size) depending on the price.  Also would be interested in both a clear and I guess frosted(not sure if that is the term) acrylic sides as shown http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502 .
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 15 July 2014, 15:59:18
Yeah, those frosted ones look great.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 15 July 2014, 21:25:44
+1 here for the frosted version. I might be in another country but I'd be damned if I don't buy into this for an endgame board.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 15 July 2014, 23:56:16
hmmmmm, curious how dark frosted acrylic would look like...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 16 July 2014, 01:04:23
Is anyone making that little acrylic thing for the bottom LEDs?
Also curious about this, I would definitely buy a pair if someone does a small order.
If you guys want, I could talk to ACC about doing a small run. I talked with them earlier about doing some
personal work for plates... Shawn (the contact from ACC) his brother runs a water jet acrylic cutting place too. I showed
him some GON style cases and he says it wouldn't be a problem to try it out. I don't know if they would look as good, but
might be worth a shot?
If we get through, may I get some pieces for the lightsaver V1 as well as the Eagle/Viper? That would be awesome. :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 16 July 2014, 06:17:51
I would be interested in the acrylic sides too if it's possible the get them for the light pad
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Thu, 17 July 2014, 19:18:10
Hey Elton, just a quick question. Are they still in the process of production of lightsaver sets?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 18 July 2014, 11:52:57
Last update I got from TC was that they were testing each PCB before shipping. There seemed to be some defects with some PCBs so they are trying to fix it right before shipping them. Otherwise they are ready to ship.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Mon, 21 July 2014, 11:42:16
Last update I got from TC was that they were testing each PCB before shipping. There seemed to be some defects with some PCBs so they are trying to fix it right before shipping them. Otherwise they are ready to ship.

Does this include the assembled v2's?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:31:33
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:40:04
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

Does that mean GB for Viper will also be delayed?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ninjadoc on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:48:59
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

I can wait. It will be quicker than some other group buys.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:29:40
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

I'll assemble one board for free if someone wants to spend the money on double shipping instead (to me, and then to you when I finish).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:31:21
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

I'll assemble one board for free if someone wants to spend the money on double shipping instead (to me, and then to you when I finish).

Nice guy  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 23 July 2014, 10:09:52
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

Elton,

Do you know if they will ship the assembled units as they are built or will they ship all at once? I'll wait either way, just curious. Thanks for the update :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 23 July 2014, 12:26:06
Not so great news. Their agency that does the assembly is taking longer than expected. I've got an update it will take up to end of August for assembled sets to ship....if anyone wants a refund on it, let me know.

The rest were shipped today and will have the tracking soon.

Does that mean the Kingsavers are delayed until then?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 13:28:13
I think they will ship it together. It might be earlier than end of August.

He will have the leftovers shipped before the assembled sets. He said soon so maybe a week.

I'll start the viper/eagle soon as well. No assembly option this time.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 23 July 2014, 13:54:04
I'll start the viper/eagle soon as well.

Oh baby.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 23 July 2014, 14:33:22
He will have the leftovers shipped before the assembled sets. He said soon so maybe a week.

I'll start the viper/eagle soon as well. No assembly option this time.
Sweet!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:44:05
Aww, man 6 weeks until I see my lightsaver. The struggle is real!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:44:45
Aww, man 6 weeks until I see my lightsaver. The struggle is real!

 :'(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 23 July 2014, 19:05:56
Aww, man 6 weeks until I see my lightsaver. The struggle is real!

That's how I feel about my Kingsaver.  So many Alps wanting to be used.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 19:57:28
Tracking #s has been posted on the spreadsheet for those unassembled sets.

Sorry again for the delay for assembled sets.  For that reason, no more assembly in the future.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 23 July 2014, 20:26:25
Tracking #s has been posted on the spreadsheet for those unassembled sets.

Sorry again for the delay for assembled sets.  For that reason, no more assembly in the future.

thank you Elton!  :thumb:
looking forward to receiving the kits!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Wed, 23 July 2014, 21:31:39
I'll start the viper/eagle soon as well. No assembly option this time.

Oh damn son, I can't wait for that buy to open its doors =D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 23 July 2014, 22:14:07
^^^ This! :D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:08:22
Tracking #s has been posted on the spreadsheet for those unassembled sets.

Sorry again for the delay for assembled sets.  For that reason, no more assembly in the future.

No worries on my end.  The only reason I went for assembly is that it seemed like a good price for all the parts + soldering.  The way things are now, my R5 order might drop the same time as this buy... LOL
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:44:17
Elton, the shipping number returns an error.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:50:05
Elton, the shipping number returns an error.

I think you just need to use Korea Post tracking.  Try this (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/EMS_Search.jsp?contId=e1020600).  It worked for me.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:01:24
Elton, the shipping number returns an error.

I think you just need to use Korea Post tracking.  Try this (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/EMS_Search.jsp?contId=e1020600).  It worked for me.
Works wonders! Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Fri, 25 July 2014, 01:56:32
thank you Elton for arranging this!
although, i just noticed that all the plates that came with my order are for v1.

robust packaging as usual
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G7e4wjzANeE/U9H9YnJU33I/AAAAAAAAIaY/nWWUfVbOarw/s1600/DSC01241.jpg)

the kits
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t4j-FLHaisY/U9H9Y2_h5UI/AAAAAAAAIac/5KJVqltRJdg/s1600/DSC01244.jpg)

the plates
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0iFffvlDwUY/U9H9Z97TYfI/AAAAAAAAIas/TCEWkSUHrZo/s1600/DSC01265.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Fri, 25 July 2014, 08:10:09
I don't mind waiting I've waited this long.. :)
It's sad to say though I've been slowly finding myself a little less uninterested in this forum, just nice to pop in once and a while though. :)

I appreciate all the updates Elton, either way your a great group buy host. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cultofjosh on Fri, 25 July 2014, 10:22:22
Got a nice package from Korea this morning :) Thanks, Elton!

OMG, the packaging was insane. No way this thing was getting marred on its way here. If I have time later I'll post a pic or two of the case. Love the grey.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 25 July 2014, 10:42:08
I need me a lightsaver, elton make it happen!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 25 July 2014, 10:43:23
I need me a lightsaver, elton make it happen!

Someone PMd me a while ago offering his spot in the GB, maybe, just maybe you could get it off that guy in the nick of time
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:43:39
Just received my kit in perfect condition.  Thanks Elton!

Now I need to get switches...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:54:37
I need me a lightsaver, elton make it happen!

Someone PMd me a while ago offering his spot in the GB, maybe, just maybe you could get it off that guy in the nick of time

He PM'd me as well.  Then I saw this guy posted in the Classifieds looking for the exact Black Anodized Lightsaver he
was trying to get rid of.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59871.0

I'm not sure if they worked anything out though.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 25 July 2014, 14:21:34
Elton make it happen geeze I'm sure you have a couple stored up in your closet
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:34:22
I got something LightSaver V2 related in the mail today!!!!.............a "missed you" delivery note. womp womp. I'll pick it up in the morning though!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:43:31
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:53:49
Elton make it happen geeze I'm sure you have a couple stored up in your closet

I have one and it's for myself!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tsangan on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:54:34
Elton make it happen geeze I'm sure you have a couple stored up in your closet

I have one and it's for myself!
Don't lie to me, make it happen

:lamma:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 25 July 2014, 15:57:59
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:19:44
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:37:37
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:
total GB failure! /sarcasm

I suggest we scrap it and move onto the viper GB  ;D!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:40:33
I suggest we scrap it and move onto the viper GB  ;D!
Seconded.

Lightsavers are old and busted, anyway.
Viper is the new hotness.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:47:52
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

Oh, on a more serious note.  Did you ever manage to get in touch with the acrylic people about the side window things?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:53:14
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:
total GB failure! /sarcasm

I suggest we scrap it and move onto the viper GB  ;D!
Elton shipped my lightsaver to tsan, I know it!
HOW MUCH IS HE PAYING YOU! TELL ME!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:53:38
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:

I thought we did too... But the shipping slip in my mailbox indicates otherwise.  xD  D'oh!

Off to the post office to collect!   ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:58:45
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:

I thought we did too... But the shipping slip in my mailbox indicates otherwise.  xD  D'oh!

Off to the post office to collect!   ;D
This means someone payed for my shipping... ? or I don't have one...  :'(
Never got any shipping info either...

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 25 July 2014, 17:48:46
HOFF!!! DID WE GET LIGHTSAVERS YET!?!?!?!  :-*

oh yeah, why didn't we combine your order with Hoff's and have it shipped together....it's cheaper...
I thought we did...  :eek:

I thought we did too... But the shipping slip in my mailbox indicates otherwise.  xD  D'oh!

Off to the post office to collect!   ;D
This means someone payed for my shipping... ? or I don't have one...  :'(
Never got any shipping info either...

I...don't know...  ?  I'm confused now.  But we will have to wait to find out, because...


I'm dumb.  I can't pick it up until 8am tomorrow.  xD  That was a fun trip though.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Fri, 25 July 2014, 19:44:27
it has been renamed! lightsaber 2.0

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-upRLLLceoD8/U9H9akGlCAI/AAAAAAAAIa8/BH4tN0TD188/s1600/DSC01272.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u1cfDG5RgJw/U9H9bGFutuI/AAAAAAAAIbA/tblL8Ay2CyY/s1600/DSC01305.jpg)

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 25 July 2014, 19:57:48
it has been renamed! lightsaber 2.0

Show Image
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-upRLLLceoD8/U9H9akGlCAI/AAAAAAAAIa8/BH4tN0TD188/s1600/DSC01272.jpg)



Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u1cfDG5RgJw/U9H9bGFutuI/AAAAAAAAIbA/tblL8Ay2CyY/s1600/DSC01305.jpg)




Looking nice
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 10:33:39
I have received goods but seem plate is error layout?
This is plate photo?
:( :( :(







Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 10:56:19
I have received goods but seem plate is error layout?
This is plate photo?
:( :( :(









What do you mean? This is the new layout plate which you ordered. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 26 July 2014, 11:39:09
I can't believe how well this was packaged. It bordered on annoying because there were so many layers of protection. Needless to say everything arrived in perfect condition and I am excited to get building soon. Pictures to come later once I have time to take them.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrtee0 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 11:57:46
I can't believe how well this was packaged. It bordered on annoying because there were so many layers of protection. Needless to say everything arrived in perfect condition and I am excited to get building soon. Pictures to come later once I have time to take them.
Can we change to old layout???
and why member Bianco in post  #726 has the old layout!
We need that layout to build tenkeyless style!  :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 26 July 2014, 12:16:00
I can't believe how well this was packaged. It bordered on annoying because there were so many layers of protection. Needless to say everything arrived in perfect condition and I am excited to get building soon. Pictures to come later once I have time to take them.
Can we change to old layout???
and why member Bianco in post  #726 has the old layout!
We need that layout to build tenkeyless style!  :(

Why do you need the old layout for tenkeyless? I know this one is different than I was expecting too but Elton did mention that we'd be receiving the 1800 plate. I had just forgotten about it when I received my order. This layout has grown on me though. Just need to have my case made and wait for keycaps to arrive.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/27/e8y5u9a9.jpg)



Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrtee0 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 12:21:04
I can't believe how well this was packaged. It bordered on annoying because there were so many layers of protection. Needless to say everything arrived in perfect condition and I am excited to get building soon. Pictures to come later once I have time to take them.
Can we change to old layout???
and why member Bianco in post  #726 has the old layout!
We need that layout to build tenkeyless style!  :(

Why do you need the old layout for tenkeyless? I know this one is different than I was expecting too but Elton did mention that we'd be receiving the 1800 plate. I had just forgotten about it when I received my order. This layout has grown on me though. Just need to have my case made and wait for keycaps to arrive.

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/27/e8y5u9a9.jpg)

because i decide to buy plate to build for TKL! :(
and the important reason is i never buy any number kit for any keyset! :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Sat, 26 July 2014, 12:46:55
My group buy package arrived just now with everything intact and accounted for and remarkably well packed.

I've got outstanding responsibilities that will prevent me from assembling until August. I also need to decide if I'm going to go linear, clicky, or if the jailhouse blues feel good enough to justify the pain they are to produce.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 26 July 2014, 12:48:18
I can't believe how well this was packaged. It bordered on annoying because there were so many layers of protection. Needless to say everything arrived in perfect condition and I am excited to get building soon. Pictures to come later once I have time to take them.
Can we change to old layout???
and why member Bianco in post  #726 has the old layout!
We need that layout to build tenkeyless style!  :(

Why do you need the old layout for tenkeyless? I know this one is different than I was expecting too but Elton did mention that we'd be receiving the 1800 plate. I had just forgotten about it when I received my order. This layout has grown on me though. Just need to have my case made and wait for keycaps to arrive.

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/27/e8y5u9a9.jpg)

because i decide to buy plate to build for TKL! :(
and the important reason is i never buy any number kit for any keyset! :(

Yeah I had to change my plans for this board slightly. I'm no longer disappointed.

On a side note: is anybody using one of the KBDLAB acrylic drawings to produce a case for their Lightsaver? Are there any considerations I need to make when sending the drawing to a laser cutter besides material thickness?

This will be my first time doing this sort of thing so I apologise for all the questions.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 26 July 2014, 17:17:50
I can't remember, are these cases hard anodized?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 19:47:57
I have received goods but seem plate is error layout?
This is plate photo?
:( :( :(


What do you mean? This is the new layout plate which you ordered.

I have thought plate can fit for all layout, I don't think it only for 1800 layout :(




Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Xenderwind on Sat, 26 July 2014, 19:56:00
I have received goods but seem plate is error layout?
This is plate photo?
:( :( :(


What do you mean? This is the new layout plate which you ordered.

I have thought plate can fit for all layout, I don't think it only for 1800 layout :(
This was discussed just a few pages back and it ultimately linked this:


I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 26 July 2014, 20:21:07
I have received goods but seem plate is error layout?
This is plate photo?
:( :( :(


What do you mean? This is the new layout plate which you ordered.

I have thought plate can fit for all layout, I don't think it only for 1800 layout :(
This was discussed just a few pages back and it ultimately linked this:


I'm not including assembly option for PCB only orders.  The plate is for the new layout (1800).  Will have the same shipping date as the rest of this group buy. 

The PCB + plate sits on top of the stand offs.

Ok thanks ;) i have read uncarefully sorry :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 27 July 2014, 11:29:41
All is well Elton!!! Both V2s are with Hoff, weeeeeeeeeeeehhhh!!!

Thanks for everything elton!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:19:19
maow and hoff ship together? duely noted! I'm not sure how this could be helpful but,
 I've worked with both of you in the past with great success! <3
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Mon, 28 July 2014, 06:33:30
Public holiday in Malaysialand... Would have gotten it by now otherwise :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 29 July 2014, 02:52:28
Can I get some help with installing the driver?
After I install the flip program, I run it, then select ATmega3204 device, hit ok. Then unplug the keyboard, hold the flip key while plugging it back. But after I plugged it back, nothing happened. Nothing new is showing in the device manager, except a HID Keyboard Device in the Keyboards section. What did I do wrong?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 29 July 2014, 04:21:44
Can I get some help with installing the driver?
After I install the flip program, I run it, then select ATmega3204 device, hit ok. Then unplug the keyboard, hold the flip key while plugging it back. But after I plugged it back, nothing happened. Nothing new is showing in the device manager, except a HID Keyboard Device in the Keyboards section. What did I do wrong?

are you using windows 8?
if the driver installation didn't pop up in the task bar, you'll have to allow unassigned drivers to install.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-can-i-install-hardware-with-unsigned-drivers-in-windows-8/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 29 July 2014, 04:52:28
So if I'm using Linux, will I have to borrow somebody's Window machine in order to use the mapping software, or use a VM, or something?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: xauser on Tue, 29 July 2014, 06:17:31
Hello,

in flip you have to select atmega32u4! On linux there is tmk firmware but this does just support the basic pcb options.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 29 July 2014, 15:20:08
 :'( After 1 day of assembling, thought I could finally type on my lightsaver. Just 1 step away, but.. I am missing a torx screwdriver.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 29 July 2014, 15:33:11
Hello,

in flip you have to select atmega32u4! On linux there is tmk firmware but this does just support the basic pcb options.

flip works on linux http://www.atmel.com/tools/flip.aspx

I compile tmk firmware on linux and flash it with flip.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:27:53
Just received mine today.

Box comparison

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/pydu4eqe.jpg)

All them paddings.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/yry5e7y7.jpg)

That extra protection
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/ubusema2.jpg)


All the paddings combined after taking it off
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/apasemyt.jpg)

Just for this set
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/edahuhur.jpg)

:thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:29:33
So is round 1 + 2 pcbs different for the 1800 layout? or could i get a new plate and resolder my v1?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:32:06
Yes, V2 PCB is different than V1 PCB.  The only difference I think is 1800 layout compatibility.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:44:07
Oh darn. I don't like the short right shift but I do like the idea of squeezing a full numpad in there. Might just have to shift mine over and half a 1u "+" or "enteR" on the numpad.
Title: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:52:35
Anyone know the right way to install stabilizers? Starting from which way to put together the black stabilizer standoffs..lol

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/eqa4a2uq.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: keyit on Tue, 29 July 2014, 16:57:35
stick the black slider into the housing making sure to orient the correct way. stick wire into the slider then clip the wire into the slider housing. do this for both ends of wire then insert into pcb. idk if this was what you were asking though lol. you can tell which way the slider enters the housing by looking at the bottom of the two, unless you clipped the sliders then it might be a lil more difficult to tell.

Edit: i know this is a lubing tutorial, but it also demonstrates how to assemble it near the end. (skip to cherry stabs of course)

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:01:37
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)

From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:09:40
Thanks keyit and hoff.  Got it.  It's easier to assemble it first then install it on the PCB.  It was kind of hard to find that hole for the wires to go in the standoffs.  I think the wire is a tiny bit bigger than that hole.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:22:11
I had trouble my first few encounters with those stabs. ^.~ Had one in backwards and my key wouldn't press. :<
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:29:39
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)


From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Clip those little landing feet off too! I can't stand that mushy feeling you get from them!  :mad:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:30:43
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)


From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Clip those little landing feet off too! I can't stand that mushy feeling you get from them!  :mad:

Glad you mentioned that.  ;)  I clip mine, so I would have probably clipped yours anyway without thinking.  :P
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:45:53
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)


From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Clip those little landing feet off too! I can't stand that mushy feeling you get from them!  :mad:

Glad you mentioned that.  ;)  I clip mine, so I would have probably clipped yours anyway without thinking.  :P
AH YEAH! BTW I sent everything off yesterday 2 day mail... should be there tomorrow...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 29 July 2014, 18:21:39
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)


From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Clip those little landing feet off too! I can't stand that mushy feeling you get from them!  :mad:

I noticed a noticeable difference on my custom board after doing this. It makes it much better. But you might inquire with the users on if they have a preference...

I have actually read some people here that like the cushion during the pushin...
 :-*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:11:25
Elton, I use this photo as a reference:
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/w/images/7/7e/Cherry_MX_levelling_mechanism_--_PCB_mount%2C_bottom.jpg)


From here (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser). 

That should at least clue you in to which way those two pieces fit together.  And from there, the "non-clipping" part (the one that slides in to the PCB rather than snaps in) goes in the bigger of the two holes.  Does that make sense?
Clip those little landing feet off too! I can't stand that mushy feeling you get from them!  :mad:

I noticed a noticeable difference on my custom board after doing this. It makes it much better. But you might inquire with the users on if they have a preference...

I have actually read some people here that like the cushion during the pushin...
 :-*
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4433194/huehuehue-o.gif)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:13:26
The screws are way too small.  I may need to buy a new torque screw driver that is small enough.  Or are there alternative screws?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:45:17
Missing screws and few keys. I want to put coloured arrow keys and enter key from EK. Maybe get that later.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/zybube2y.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:52:27
Almost finished. Anyone know how many brightness levels are there? Why I only have 2 levels(1 on 1 off)?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/uhama3uj.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 21:15:36

- Notes about LED modes:
by default, they are on Function Layer #3, which means press the MFN button 3 times in a quick succession to get to the 3rd function layer, and on the third time hold it and press a number associated with the area on the keyboard you want illuminated (alternatively, if you bind FN3 to some key, press FN3 + number)

1 = Function row LEDs
2 = Modifiers + number row
3 = Alphas
4 = Numpad
5 = Side LEDs

To cycle through different lighting modes, you can press those keys repeatedly.  For example holding down FN3 (or having pressed MFN 3 times and holding it), you can keep pressing "3" to cycle through lighting modes for the alphas.  Here are the lighting modes, in a cycle:

  • All ON
  • All OFF
  • Breathing with longer dark periods
  • Breathing with short dark periods (basically the opposite of the other kind of breathing, if you want to have 2 sections breathing exactly out of sync)
  • Reactive ON (off until you push a key, then that section turns on briefly at maximum set brightness)
  • Reactive OFF (on until you push a key, then that section turns off briefly)
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--starts off breathing quickly then slows dramatically until you begin typing
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--reverse of the above (breathing out of sync)
  • OFF until you begin typing, then the section turns on gradually the faster you type.  Fades back to off once you stop typing.


LED brightness level can be varied with LED D[ow]N and LED UP keys, on the same function layer #3 by default
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Tue, 29 July 2014, 21:30:11

- Notes about LED modes:
by default, they are on Function Layer #3, which means press the MFN button 3 times in a quick succession to get to the 3rd function layer, and on the third time hold it and press a number associated with the area on the keyboard you want illuminated (alternatively, if you bind FN3 to some key, press FN3 + number)

1 = Function row LEDs
2 = Modifiers + number row
3 = Alphas
4 = Numpad
5 = Side LEDs

To cycle through different lighting modes, you can press those keys repeatedly.  For example holding down FN3 (or having pressed MFN 3 times and holding it), you can keep pressing "3" to cycle through lighting modes for the alphas.  Here are the lighting modes, in a cycle:

  • All ON
  • All OFF
  • Breathing with longer dark periods
  • Breathing with short dark periods (basically the opposite of the other kind of breathing, if you want to have 2 sections breathing exactly out of sync)
  • Reactive ON (off until you push a key, then that section turns on briefly at maximum set brightness)
  • Reactive OFF (on until you push a key, then that section turns off briefly)
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--starts off breathing quickly then slows dramatically until you begin typing
  • Breathing mode where speed varies based on typing speed--reverse of the above (breathing out of sync)
  • OFF until you begin typing, then the section turns on gradually the faster you type.  Fades back to off once you stop typing.


LED brightness level can be varied with LED D[ow]N and LED UP keys, on the same function layer #3 by default

I know how to change brightness or cycle through different modes, my question is that for brightness level, it seems that there are only two levels. Pressing led dn key while leds are on will go directly to off, pressing led up key while leds are off will go directly to maximum brightness.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 29 July 2014, 22:23:04
have you updated the firmware? maybe the firmware that came with it is not the latest version?
http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

this thread has the info in the first page
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 29 July 2014, 22:25:40
great looking v2s!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 29 July 2014, 22:35:07
does anyone happen to have close up shots of the blockers? I am curious how they attach.
I did not notice that in the OP or I would have ordered a bunch of them. :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:02:14
does anyone happen to have close up shots of the blockers? I am curious how they attach.
I did not notice that in the OP or I would have ordered a bunch of them. :(

it sits on top of the space for the switch.
and screwed in place at the bottom.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uxtr1ypK-js/U9h7uHdMPQI/AAAAAAAAIbg/jC2SZd27ARw/s1600/DSC01304.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:13:25
does anyone happen to have close up shots of the blockers? I am curious how they attach.
I did not notice that in the OP or I would have ordered a bunch of them. :(

it sits on top of the space for the switch.
and screwed in place at the bottom.

Show Image
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uxtr1ypK-js/U9h7uHdMPQI/AAAAAAAAIbg/jC2SZd27ARw/s1600/DSC01304.jpg)



this is exactly what I was hoping feng could have the fmj guy make. but in 1x 1.25x and 1.5x... HHKB and Winkeyless blockers for all...

edit : that is a nice pic sir. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 30 July 2014, 00:40:28
(http://i.imgur.com/b3DXAok.png)

F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 30 July 2014, 15:34:57
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/b3DXAok.png)


F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5.

I know that feel.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 31 July 2014, 10:40:21
Elton, will Duck be open to making additional plates in the future?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:15:25
 :-[ I am still having problem with the led brightness control (only two levels). FYI, I am using the latest firmware.
Can someone tell me how many brightness levels are there?

I think the leds I am using may be the cause of the problem. What's the preferred voltage range for the leds?

EDIT: BTW, I think I find a bug: the number lock indicator lignt would stay the same after I press the led ctrl key to turn off the leds. And when the leds are off, the num lock light cannot be swithced on/off, but the caps lock light can. Not really a big problem.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 01 August 2014, 02:27:41
Elton, will Duck be open to making additional plates in the future?

haha did you find a buyer if you can get a diff plate?
had a similar problem...

@elton: any chance?  :-*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Fri, 01 August 2014, 06:42:15
Elton, will Duck be open to making additional plates in the future?

haha did you find a buyer if you can get a diff plate?
had a similar problem...

@elton: any chance?  :-*

Not really. I like the 1800 layout (actually might be more perfect for me than any other layouts) but I'm curious because some of my endgame caps might not fit on this thing otherwise :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Fri, 01 August 2014, 08:18:49
different plate with slots for switch top removal! i'm in!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Fri, 01 August 2014, 11:29:18
YUSS!

GOT ONE!

*does the Humpty Dance*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 01 August 2014, 17:16:26
I have a v1 right now. I think I would really like a v2 with 1800 layout.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:25:23
It's here. Pressing F5 does make the delivery man faster :)

Actually, it was here since last Thursday but I was working from home until today :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 07 August 2014, 10:07:17
How often are tracking numbers added?  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:02:42
It will be shipped out once they're all assembled.  It is easier for them to ship the keyboards out all at once rather than individually one by one.  Again, I apologize for the delay.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 10 August 2014, 00:36:25
I don't mind waiting a little longer :)

I just hope they put a "decent" value on the shipping box, otherwise I'll have to pay a little fortune :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:04:00
It will be shipped out once they're all assembled.  It is easier for them to ship the keyboards out all at once rather than individually one by one.  Again, I apologize for the delay.

It's like waiting for christmas :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:29:24
Agreed, I just want it naow, I'd beat a child for one today. :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 August 2014, 01:30:22
Hey guys. I'm holding a V1 in hand. I want to trade for a V2 or, I'll straight up buy your V2 off you. [I want that 1800 layout!]
Great chance for someone to switch up who was caught off guard by 1800 layout.
Thanks for your time.

edit2: found out a v2 pcb + plate can fit in my v1 case; willing to trade just pcb+plates
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:08:50
*pokes thread*

Is this thing on?

 ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 20:55:22
I've got news that the sets are all assembled now.  If you have to update your address, tell me NOW.  They will start shipping by next week.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Tue, 19 August 2014, 20:56:27
Best news of my week !! Wished there was pictures to see.. Can't imagine how long I wanted this
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:35:00
Here are the pictures of the assembled sets..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=449172&mid=board_hDJd48

Also,

To adjust the brightness:

You can find the MFN key.

To adjust LED brightness you keep pressing MFN + LED UP(or LED DOWN)

Please make sure you keep pressing the key for a while.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:56:42
Here are the pictures of the assembled sets..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=449172&mid=board_hDJd48

Also,

To adjust the brightness:

You can find the MFN key.

To adjust LED brightness you keep pressing MFN + LED UP(or LED DOWN)

Please make sure you keep pressing the key for a while.

Amazing!!!!! I can't believe he/they built these so quick! I wasn't expecting to see pics this soon  :eek: :eek:

Thanks Elton! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 19 August 2014, 23:12:36
JOYGASM!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 20 August 2014, 01:29:01
Quick reminder that I'm dying to throw cash at someone for their V2.
I'll even pay you to trade me PCB/Plates/WholeUnits for my V1.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 20 August 2014, 02:38:46
Nice preview of mine:

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/369816/172/449/d8843f7d667a7941a9c9994275b99d9a.jpg)

Is the upper right LED malfunctioning or isn't it supposed to light up?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 20 August 2014, 02:41:08
Nice preview of mine:

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/369816/172/449/d8843f7d667a7941a9c9994275b99d9a.jpg)


Is the upper right LED malfunctioning or isn't it supposed to light up?

it's the indicator light for which layer that is active
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 20 August 2014, 02:54:54
Ah ok, thanks for clarifying  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 20 August 2014, 05:41:40
It's mine. :cool:

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/369816/172/449/ead3729092b84a4f6fa33ca864b20491.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:13:03
xposting. mine. v2
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4PlYrdFKLd8/U-8gT3LocKI/AAAAAAAAIek/r7iV6ZdgCMo/s1600/DSC01639.jpg)

with the v1
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J3nSSEsOoAU/U-8gUUzv6mI/AAAAAAAAIeo/2wX-sBY0th0/s1600/DSC01646.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:10:53
n/m, answered in pm
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Ronnn on Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:04:31
Here are the pictures of the assembled sets..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=449172&mid=board_hDJd48

Also,

To adjust the brightness:

You can find the MFN key.

To adjust LED brightness you keep pressing MFN + LED UP(or LED DOWN)

Please make sure you keep pressing the key for a while.

Well, no matter how I press the led up or down key, they only serve as led on or off. Do you get brightness other than maximum brightness and off?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:31:17
I'm so excited... any estimated ETA in Canada?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Lurch on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:44:44
This might be my favorite design. Would love to get my hands on one some day. ^-^
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 20 August 2014, 16:45:11
Here are the pictures of the assembled sets..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=449172&mid=board_hDJd48

Also,

To adjust the brightness:

You can find the MFN key.

To adjust LED brightness you keep pressing MFN + LED UP(or LED DOWN)

Please make sure you keep pressing the key for a while.

Well, no matter how I press the led up or down key, they only serve as led on or off. Do you get brightness other than maximum brightness and off?


Maybe somebody should start a Duck support thread for troubleshooting these things.

It would be nice to find out if these issues are defects or user error. My V2 won't even change layers, much less toggle LED modes. Of course I've followed what instructions I've found.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:43:09
Maybe we should start an IC for Lightsaver v2 round 2.  :-*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:20:58
I'd be down for another set of plate and PCB at least!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 23 August 2014, 07:50:07
I'd be down for another set of plate and PCB at least!
Yeah, if elton runs just a pcb/plate buy. I will work a little harder to get those GON style cases made.  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 23 August 2014, 08:41:25
Maybe somebody should start a Duck support thread for troubleshooting these things.

It would be nice to find out if these issues are defects or user error. My V2 won't even change layers, much less toggle LED modes. Of course I've followed what instructions I've found.
I believe by default the firmware was only flashed with single layer.
To add more layers and LED modes u need to do keymapping and flash firmware again.
There's a thread in geekhack media section about lightsaver by photoelectric iinm.
I wrote myself a simple guide thou:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:11:48
Maybe somebody should start a Duck support thread for troubleshooting these things.

It would be nice to find out if these issues are defects or user error. My V2 won't even change layers, much less toggle LED modes. Of course I've followed what instructions I've found.
I believe by default the firmware was only flashed with single layer.
To add more layers and LED modes u need to do keymapping and flash firmware again.
There's a thread in geekhack media section about lightsaver by photoelectric iinm.
I wrote myself a simple guide thou:
I think I know which thread you're taking about. Thanks so much for the guide though. I'll try it out this weekend.

I would be interested in another GB especially for the aluminium case.

Also, has anybody had an acrylic case made for their PCB/plate order? I know a few people with laser cutters but I'm having trouble finding acrylic in the correct thickness. Plus I'd just like to see people's Lightsavers.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:24:53
Is there honestly no one with an extra v2 pcb?  :p
Well elton, looks like there's a good amount of interest on GH. Is a R2 a possibility?
Could you ask duck for me pretty please?  :-*
[there are about 4 other people who haven't posted here looking for complete v2 kits in classifieds]
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 23 August 2014, 09:36:12
Is there honestly no one with an extra v2 pcb?  :p
Well elton, looks like there's a good amount of interest on GH. Is a R2 a possibility?
Could you ask duck for me pretty please?  :-*
[there are about 4 other people who haven't posted here looking for complete v2 kits in classifieds]
Yeah I have an extra PCB but I was kind of hoping to hold on to it to study it's design. Would like to eventually design PCBs myself but who wouldn't. I'll consider letting it go as I really don't have the time to do anything with it for a while. No extra plate though.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:11:09
Just plugged the one I was delivered in and it says Unknown USB device (device descriptor request failed). Any ideas? Windows 8.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:33:55
Just plugged the one I was delivered in and it says Unknown USB device (device descriptor request failed). Any ideas? Windows 8.

Uh I think something about Flip and the atmega34u4 driver.

photos thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
links to the kmac guide [which is very similar] http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:59:03
Just plugged the one I was delivered in and it says Unknown USB device (device descriptor request failed). Any ideas? Windows 8.

Uh I think something about Flip and the atmega34u4 driver.

photos thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
links to the kmac guide [which is very similar] http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0

Fixed it. Faulty USB cable.

But  I still can't get it recognized as ATMEGA, which precludes any reprogramming... which I actually need because it is defaulted to the WKL 1800-layout, which my guy doesn't want...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 23 August 2014, 13:18:05
Yeah I had to remove whatever driver it installed automatically and install the one from the flip root\usb folder.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sat, 23 August 2014, 15:01:50
Fixed all the problems. It's live!

Such a bittersweet experience for me as I complete this project to sell to a friend.

Korean keyboards... feel completely different.

Oh well :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 23 August 2014, 22:02:35
I think I know which thread you're taking about. Thanks so much for the guide though. I'll try it out this weekend.

I would be interested in another GB especially for the aluminium case.

Also, has anybody had an acrylic case made for their PCB/plate order? I know a few people with laser cutters but I'm having trouble finding acrylic in the correct thickness. Plus I'd just like to see people's Lightsavers.
No prob  ;) .
I also hope that I got a chance to get myself v2 pcb and replace my v1  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:00:09
I think I know which thread you're taking about. Thanks so much for the guide though. I'll try it out this weekend.

I would be interested in another GB especially for the aluminium case.

Also, has anybody had an acrylic case made for their PCB/plate order? I know a few people with laser cutters but I'm having trouble finding acrylic in the correct thickness. Plus I'd just like to see people's Lightsavers.
No prob  ;) .
I also hope that I got a chance to get myself v2 pcb and replace my v1  :p

DIBS! I'll fight you  :-\  :-*
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sent on Sun, 24 August 2014, 01:22:57
Another round of these would be awesome. Just sayin'.   :'(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 24 August 2014, 03:27:41
Another round of these would be awesome. Just sayin'.   :'(

 :confused: :-* ;D?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sun, 24 August 2014, 06:39:52
Welp, setting up the software for the Lightsaber is weird... anyone know how to put media keys in?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 24 August 2014, 11:34:43
Welp, setting up the software for the Lightsaber is weird... anyone know how to put media keys in?

Using the O2D custom keymapper it looks like media keys are "Mac Only."
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:21:11
Great, another hiccup. Anyone knows how to program the 4-key arrow cluster in the keymapper? It refuses to save my settings...

Pictures tonight when I get home, if need be.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:26:26
Great, another hiccup. Anyone knows how to program the 4-key arrow cluster in the keymapper? It refuses to save my settings...

Pictures tonight when I get home, if need be.

I ran into the same issue. I had to use the previous version of the firmware to get it to work. Seems like the newest release is a little buggy. If you want media keys, I think the TMK firmware has them. The only issue with that is you lose all of the led effects. On/off for the different zones is the only option.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 26 August 2014, 08:43:42
Great, another hiccup. Anyone knows how to program the 4-key arrow cluster in the keymapper? It refuses to save my settings...

Pictures tonight when I get home, if need be.

I ran into the same issue. I had to use the previous version of the firmware to get it to work. Seems like the newest release is a little buggy. If you want media keys, I think the TMK firmware has them. The only issue with that is you lose all of the led effects. On/off for the different zones is the only option.

Damnit! Same No difference then :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 28 August 2014, 19:22:43
What's the good word on shipping?

 :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DamienG on Sat, 30 August 2014, 15:02:59
Given the scant documentation for building this... any recommendations for LED size/voltage?

[)amien
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sat, 30 August 2014, 20:55:54
Given the scant documentation for building this... any recommendations for LED size/voltage?

[)amien

All of these have worked for me so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871)

I'm also waiting to receive these less common colours:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html)

The only place I found cyan and sky-blue besides Taobao.

Also waiting on these 3528s for the side:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html)



Anybody find a real solution for the "?" non-mapping arrow key bug?

EDIT: Also where are people getting their acrylic cases cut? I'm awaiting a quote from an acrylic fabricator in China as places like TAP plastics don't have acrylic in the right thicknesses. I know people with laser cutters but sourcing the acrylic is a problem.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: BamBooBam on Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:07:00
If you search LED大卖场 on Taobao, they have some highest quality LEDs for keyboards :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Sun, 31 August 2014, 07:10:29
Given the scant documentation for building this... any recommendations for LED size/voltage?

[)amien

All of these have worked for me so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871)

I'm also waiting to receive these less common colours:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html)

The only place I found cyan and sky-blue besides Taobao.

Also waiting on these 3528s for the side:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html)



Anybody find a real solution for the "?" non-mapping arrow key bug?

EDIT: Also where are people getting their acrylic cases cut? I'm awaiting a quote from an acrylic fabricator in China as places like TAP plastics don't have acrylic in the right thicknesses. I know people with laser cutters but sourcing the acrylic is a problem.

You should be able to use the previous version of the firmware to re-map the arrow keys. They still show up as ? in the software, but I was able to move them successfully.

My suggestion for having an acrylic case made would be to use someone local to you. I had one made, they didn't have the exact sizes of acrylic thickness that are on the cad files, but most of the measurements are close. I think it turned out pretty well.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Sun, 31 August 2014, 12:00:48
Given the scant documentation for building this... any recommendations for LED size/voltage?

[)amien

All of these have worked for me so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221138055543)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331085659437)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090387)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999090146)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999089508)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/320999088871)

I'm also waiting to receive these less common colours:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-and-High-lightness-100pcs-2x3x4-Rectangular-square-type-sky-blue-color-led-beads-brightness600/2022772817.html)

The only place I found cyan and sky-blue besides Taobao.

Also waiting on these 3528s for the side:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-50pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-PLCC-2-1210-3528-purple-LED-New/2001195224.html)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bright-3528-ice-blue-instrument-disk-1210-light-blue-smd-led-light-emitting-diode/1857958607.html)



Anybody find a real solution for the "?" non-mapping arrow key bug?

EDIT: Also where are people getting their acrylic cases cut? I'm awaiting a quote from an acrylic fabricator in China as places like TAP plastics don't have acrylic in the right thicknesses. I know people with laser cutters but sourcing the acrylic is a problem.

You should be able to use the previous version of the firmware to re-map the arrow keys. They still show up as ? in the software, but I was able to move them successfully.

My suggestion for having an acrylic case made would be to use someone local to you. I had one made, they didn't have the exact sizes of acrylic thickness that are on the cad files, but most of the measurements are close. I think it turned out pretty well.

Previous as in "02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.4.305" or Duck's original "TrueKeyMapper"? Thanks.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Crabby_b on Sun, 31 August 2014, 12:09:05
You should try using the previous release of the O2D custom firmware.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 31 August 2014, 23:46:45
Preset the arrow keys with TrueKeyMapper for the layer u want.
Open the hex file with 02d to edit afterward.
However in this way u will be limited with single normal and fn layer only.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 07:01:31
All assembled lightsavers are shipped now. Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 03 September 2014, 07:43:30
Tracking #s?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 03 September 2014, 08:20:23
Elton, is there a possibility of reaching out to Duck to get the keymapper fixed? It's kinda frustrating otherwise :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:38:08
I will have the tracking #s by tonight or whenever I get them.  As for the keymapping software, I have addressed this to them.  Hopefully it gets fixed.  I haven't played around with it yet as I've been using the default setting up to now.  And no LEDs on mine yet as well...pretty bare =\
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:45:27
I will have the tracking #s by tonight or whenever I get them.  As for the keymapping software, I have addressed this to them.  Hopefully it gets fixed.  I haven't played around with it yet as I've been using the default setting up to now.  And no LEDs on mine yet as well...pretty bare =\
Thanks for doing this. It sucks to compromise with an otherwise great keyboard.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:48:57
The key mapping software is not very good at this time - I gave it a couple of tries, but in the end decided to use TMK firmware (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0).  Highly recommend using that if you're comfortable with the process of editing config files in text, building via Makefile/GCC and flashing using FLIP.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:57:53
TMK doesn't have the bling options that my friend wants. HE rather have shinies than a good keymap :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:27:02
TMK doesn't have the bling options that my friend wants. HE rather have shinies than a good keymap :(

can you make an image of the map you want?
I dont seem to have any trouble programming my v1 pcb with the new o2d and truekeymapper combined.
I couldn't figure out LED brightness but I do have my clusters with different lighting settings.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 21:06:59
Tracking #s are up
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Wed, 03 September 2014, 21:37:55
Tracking #s are up

great thanks elton. Mine will be arrived by this weekend.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 04 September 2014, 06:13:26
Tracking #s are up

Where are the tracking numbers posted?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Thu, 04 September 2014, 06:17:25
Tracking #s are up

Where are the tracking numbers posted?

The #1, check order link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 04 September 2014, 10:57:36
Tracking #s are up

Where are the tracking numbers posted?

The #1, check order link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDZDVE9IWWc0OGNkc19hcGx6TjN3c2c&single=true&gid=2&output=html



Thanks, I didn't notice the tracking numbers on the side.  I guess I will get this before R5...  Was planning on using the WoB with WoR highlights SA caps, but now I'm torn between using Cherry WoB, Dolch, or the Skull Squadron DSA caps.  I think the Skull Squad caps have a bit too much flair for me to use for a daily driver, but it's also a shame to just have them sitting in a box.  Oh, first world problems.... :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Fri, 05 September 2014, 06:27:19
I just received and quickly install everything. By default it's all LEO turned on. Would any1 tell me how to toggle LED mode in v2? I cannot locate the MFN button -_-!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Fri, 05 September 2014, 11:56:04
just got LS2 as well , however i would like to know what screws does those blockers use ? it didn't come with my package. Anybody able to let me know where can i buy them ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 05 September 2014, 15:17:27
I just received and quickly install everything. By default it's all LEO turned on. Would any1 tell me how to toggle LED mode in v2? I cannot locate the MFN button -_-!

MFN button should be on the right of F12. Hold it and press F6 (+?) F7 (-?).

TrueCustom is going to translate the instruction over the next few days.  If it's not working after the translation, I'm going to lend him my LS2 for him to fix the problem, if that helps.. He said none of the Koreans have problem with it, so it should just be a translation problem. Let's see. :)

just got LS2 as well , however i would like to know what screws does those blockers use ? it didn't come with my package. Anybody able to let me know where can i buy them ?

I'll let you know

EDIT: They are M3x5mm screws.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:18:35
Thx for making this happen Elton ! :)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb)
Lightsaver v2 + Caps (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb) by hansen_oe (https://www.flickr.com/people/125682669@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5595/14952091679_8fd734e285_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMgnW8)
Lightsaver v2 Night + Caps (https://flic.kr/p/oMgnW8) by hansen_oe (https://www.flickr.com/people/125682669@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sat, 06 September 2014, 22:43:36
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/06/ae8365b2b0205beca2dd497292356b16.jpg)

It's mine together with Orion TKL. Again great thanks to Elton.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 07 September 2014, 19:59:08
The key mapping software is not very good at this time - I gave it a couple of tries, but in the end decided to use TMK firmware (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0).  Highly recommend using that if you're comfortable with the process of editing config files in text, building via Makefile/GCC and flashing using FLIP.

Why is the Duck software bad and why is the TMK firmware better? I'm asking because I am getting my Duck Viper soon and want to do the right thing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 07 September 2014, 21:19:11
The key mapping software is not very good at this time - I gave it a couple of tries, but in the end decided to use TMK firmware (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0).  Highly recommend using that if you're comfortable with the process of editing config files in text, building via Makefile/GCC and flashing using FLIP.

Why is the Duck software bad and why is the TMK firmware better? I'm asking because I am getting my Duck Viper soon and want to do the right thing.

Just try both and decide which you like more.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: SL89 on Sun, 07 September 2014, 21:21:31
Show Image
Thx for making this happen Elton ! :)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14952230998_81d14cf534_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb)

Lightsaver v2 + Caps (https://flic.kr/p/oMh6mb) by hansen_oe (https://www.flickr.com/people/125682669@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5595/14952091679_8fd734e285_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMgnW8)
Lightsaver v2 Night + Caps (https://flic.kr/p/oMgnW8) by hansen_oe (https://www.flickr.com/people/125682669@N08/), on Flickr

 :'( one day... one day ill get one!  :))
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 08 September 2014, 19:13:18
TrueCustom is going to translate the instruction over the next few days.  If it's not working after the translation, I'm going to lend him my LS2 for him to fix the problem, if that helps.. He said none of the Koreans have problem with it, so it should just be a translation problem. Let's see. :)

I received my LS2 and I'm also curious about how to change the led brightness/modes. I tried the steps you posted to adjust the brightness but it doesn't work. Looking forward to the translated instructions to see if that helps any. Thanks again Elton =)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:03:33
Quote
MFN button should be on the right of F12. Hold it and press F6 (+?) F7 (-?).
It doesn't work. I think I should flash a custom firmware to enable the MFN button.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:02:30
I received my LS2 and I'm also curious about how to change the led brightness/modes. I tried the steps you posted to adjust the brightness but it doesn't work. Looking forward to the translated instructions to see if that helps any. Thanks again Elton =)
MFN key doesn't do any thing with brightness/LED modes.
You just need to have Different LED modes keys, LED Ctrl and LED Up/Dn on desired layer.
Hold LED Ctrl and press any LED modes that u wish to control the brightness, after that just press and hold LED Up/Dn for a few seconds u will observe brightness increases/decreases.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 09 September 2014, 09:47:22
I received my LS2 and I'm also curious about how to change the led brightness/modes. I tried the steps you posted to adjust the brightness but it doesn't work. Looking forward to the translated instructions to see if that helps any. Thanks again Elton =)
MFN key doesn't do any thing with brightness/LED modes.
You just need to have Different LED modes keys, LED Ctrl and LED Up/Dn on desired layer.
Hold LED Ctrl and press any LED modes that u wish to control the brightness, after that just press and hold LED Up/Dn for a few seconds u will observe brightness increases/decreases.


My LS2 was assembled so I'm not sure which layers are what..or even how to switch layers for that matter. Do you happen to know what the default LED Ctrl / LED Modes & LED Up/Dn keys are? thanks.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 09 September 2014, 10:29:00
Elton, I was under the impression that the new plate supports the 1800-layout. Mine doesn't seem to be able to do so...

Please stop ignoring my PMs. This is getting a little distressing :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 11:07:03
Elton, I was under the impression that the new plate supports the 1800-layout. Mine doesn't seem to be able to do so...

Please stop ignoring my PMs. This is getting a little distressing :(

Show a picture of your plate...

What PMs? You only PM'd me once and it was about the firmware which I addressed here.


The 1800 plate is the one on top.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/thumbnail/edahuhur.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 09 September 2014, 12:04:40
http://imgur.com/LxXu8s2
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Tue, 09 September 2014, 14:02:23
http://imgur.com/LxXu8s2
That looks like the older plate.

Question:  My + and - keys on the numberpad (in 1800 layout) are giving the same scancodes (P+ 107 on the 02d keymapper, and 0x6B, BIOS 0x4E on EK's Switch hitter software).  Is this a glitch? Or just how it was programmed by who built it? 

Also, the board feels great to type on.  Thanks for running this elton!   Did anyone else put a pad between the the pcb and the case?  I used the foam material that the case was wrapped in to get rid of as much air space as possible.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 09 September 2014, 21:14:25
http://imgur.com/LxXu8s2
That looks like the older plate.

Question:  My + and - keys on the numberpad (in 1800 layout) are giving the same scancodes (P+ 107 on the 02d keymapper, and 0x6B, BIOS 0x4E on EK's Switch hitter software).  Is this a glitch? Or just how it was programmed by who built it? 

Also, the board feels great to type on.  Thanks for running this elton!   Did anyone else put a pad between the the pcb and the case?  I used the foam material that the case was wrapped in to get rid of as much air space as possible.

Frick! I checked the option for the new plate :(

This sucks...

@elton, is there any remedy for this, or will I now have to cute my own plate?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: moemoe666 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 21:34:52
When I try to keymapping the Light saver, I got the runtime error 53 - File not found

02D_KeyMapper_Custom

any help?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 09 September 2014, 21:54:56
When I try to keymapping the Light saver, I got the runtime error 53 - File not found

02D_KeyMapper_Custom

any help?
Are you running it as an administrator?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:20:51
Here's a tutorial for the layout editing tutorial. Hope this helps.


@sakai4eva I'll let them know.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:30:09
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:35:01
Here's a tutorial for the layout editing tutorial. Hope this helps.


@sakai4eva I'll let them know.

Thank you. Please save this keyboard. I've already been paid for it and I hate to deliver a something I think is incomplete, not to mention the buyer also agreed to pay for an additional Tsangan kit just to make it work in 1800-layout.

Also, as an alternative, I wouldn't be partial to getting the specs/schematics for the plate, as I believe I can get a local cutter to do it for me, but it's going to cost money :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 09 September 2014, 22:39:01
Where is FN1~FN3 by default in layer 1? Or, if anyone knows of a way to download the current firmware from the lightsaver and view the key mappings that would be helpful as well. I only see 'Firmware Upload' in the O2D KeyMapper, no option to download. Nevermind, I just remapped the layout and flashed the firmware.

Does anyone know what the MFN button does? It appears to do the same function as FN1?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 09 September 2014, 23:09:11
Ah, if I change the locale to Korea, the arrows show up, and I can map them.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:05:56
Ah, if I change the locale to Korea, the arrows show up, and I can map them.
The locale? In windows for character encoding?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:09:25
Ah, if I change the locale to Korea, the arrows show up, and I can map them.
The locale? In windows for character encoding?
See image:
(http://i.imgur.com/HT2e93B.png)

In other news, macros are still beyond me.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:26:38
ok, I think I got layers working now, pretty cool stuff but I pretty much have to figure out what does what by flashing it and trial/error, lol. Thanks for the Locale tip Stylin..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:27:59
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.

Can you send the link please?

Where is FN1~FN3 by default in layer 1? Or, if anyone knows of a way to download the current firmware from the lightsaver and view the key mappings that would be helpful as well. I only see 'Firmware Upload' in the O2D KeyMapper, no option to download. Nevermind, I just remapped the layout and flashed the firmware.

Does anyone know what the MFN button does? It appears to do the same function as FN1?

I think so. MFN (Miscellaneous FN?)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:32:28
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.

Can you send the link please?
Here:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=309373&mid=board_sw
It's near the bottom.

Anyone get text or action macros working?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:40:21
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.

Can you send the link please?
Here:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=309373&mid=board_sw
It's near the bottom.

Anyone get text or action macros working?

What's the RGB version for?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:44:17
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.

Can you send the link please?
Here:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=309373&mid=board_sw
It's near the bottom.

Anyone get text or action macros working?

At work now, so I don't have access to the Lightsaber (disassembled and left at home pending the plate confusion), but I can open the keymapper.

Caveat: I have only programmed text macros so far, but I think action macros should run on the same principal.

Using the latest 02D mapper software;

1. Tools > Static Macro Editor (at the top menu bar)
2. Check the "Macro Index" option on the middle right, and make sure the macro number is the one you want to edit/program
3. Click "Load"
4. Edit the macro.
5. Click "Apply"

It should work at this point, because I have programmed my text macros the exact same way.

I'd post pictures, but work Internet has decided to block imgur. If there's still confusion, I'll look for alternatives.

@elton; can we continue the plate discussion via e-mail or PM? I don't check threads that often anymore :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:48:36

@elton; can we continue the plate discussion via e-mail or PM? I don't check threads that often anymore :(

Yes, I'll PM you an update when I receive news on it.

Btw, can you please stop using that emoticon on every post? It's getting annoying...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:55:45

@elton; can we continue the plate discussion via e-mail or PM? I don't check threads that often anymore :(

Yes, I'll PM you an update when I receive news on it.

Btw, can you please stop using that emoticon on every post? It's getting annoying...

Not sure if serious, but ok. Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 10 September 2014, 00:56:26
Where can one download KeyMapper v1.5.334_RGB?
The highest version I can find is v1.5.333
EDIT: Nevermind, had some trouble navigating the site in Korean.

Quick question, is there something I need to enable in Windows to get the arrows to show up in the keymapper?

Is it like a problem displaying the character?
Because they're just question marks.

Can you send the link please?
Here:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=309373&mid=board_sw
It's near the bottom.

Anyone get text or action macros working?

What's the RGB version for?
Looks like it has support for RGB switches.
I only grabbed it because it was a higher version number.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Wed, 10 September 2014, 03:13:03
I think the RGB version of 02D firmware is for rgb backlit under the pcb by jumping wires, I have only seen korean done this demo on Orion PCB with Unicorn housing. The light effects are awesome  :thumb: .
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 10 September 2014, 07:39:07
Got mine yesterday!, won't be building it fully till I move in 10 days, anyone got any ideas for a black/green themed keycap set, or any other ideas I have the silver base also need to buy a usb wire.. thinking going with Zeal's green and black
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Wed, 10 September 2014, 09:51:20
Got mine yesterday!, won't be building it fully till I move in 10 days, anyone got any ideas for a black/green themed keycap set, or any other ideas I have the silver base also need to buy a usb wire.. thinking going with Zeal's green and black

Have you checked out Toxic set?
It would take sometime to find one now though
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 10 September 2014, 10:19:34
Got mine yesterday!, won't be building it fully till I move in 10 days, anyone got any ideas for a black/green themed keycap set, or any other ideas I have the silver base also need to buy a usb wire.. thinking going with Zeal's green and black

Have you checked out Toxic set?
It would take sometime to find one now though

I second this. There are still rumors floating around about the toxic r2 right?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 10 September 2014, 11:53:31
Got mine yesterday!, won't be building it fully till I move in 10 days, anyone got any ideas for a black/green themed keycap set, or any other ideas I have the silver base also need to buy a usb wire.. thinking going with Zeal's green and black

Have you checked out Toxic set?
It would take sometime to find one now though
I second this. There are still rumors floating around about the toxic r2 right?
R2 DSA I hope, I hope, I hope...

I second this. There are still rumors floating around about the toxic r2 right?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Wed, 10 September 2014, 13:28:48
I think the RGB version of 02D firmware is for rgb backlit under the pcb by jumping wires, I have only seen korean done this demo on Orion PCB with Unicorn housing. The light effects are awesome  :thumb: .
Any link to the demo? I'm curious but I don't understand how it's done.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Wed, 10 September 2014, 13:35:17
Does anyone know exactly how the FNLayer's work? I can't figure out how it knows that on FNLayer1 that it should perform LED Brightness only but on FNLayer3 it knows to dance through the various lighting schemes while keeping in mind that I only see one set of LED commands in the firmware which are already assigned in FNLayer1.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Wed, 10 September 2014, 14:18:05
Got mine yesterday!, won't be building it fully till I move in 10 days, anyone got any ideas for a black/green themed keycap set, or any other ideas I have the silver base also need to buy a usb wire.. thinking going with Zeal's green and black

Have you checked out Toxic set?
It would take sometime to find one now though
I second this. There are still rumors floating around about the toxic r2 right?
R2 DSA I hope, I hope, I hope...

I second this. There are still rumors floating around about the toxic r2 right?

I did check it I was waiting for Mr. Buns to pm me if there are any extras though due to problems with that GB I'm still waiting, looking to pick something up temporarily until I get used to the layers as it's my first custom keyboard been using a Logitech/wireless Logitech forever haha
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: WinterIsle on Wed, 10 September 2014, 17:02:49
Any link to the demo? I'm curious but I don't understand how it's done.
There's a link above shared by StylinGreymon  ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Thu, 11 September 2014, 00:06:32
Here's a tutorial for the layout editing tutorial. Hope this helps.


@sakai4eva I'll let them know.

Thanks Elton.

I follow the guideline and I am now able to flash the firmware for my Orion and Lightsaver.

P.S.
- I feel the v1.5.333 keymapper is better than the RGB one. It has better LED toggle keys.
- Use Applocale to open the keymapper can show the correct arrow keys.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Thu, 11 September 2014, 00:55:36
Does anyone know exactly how the FNLayer's work? I can't figure out how it knows that on FNLayer1 that it should perform LED Brightness only but on FNLayer3 it knows to dance through the various lighting schemes while keeping in mind that I only see one set of LED commands in the firmware which are already assigned in FNLayer1.

Hold the FN1 (which is assigned in your current layer, say Layer 1) + press LED UP or LED DN (which is assigned in FNLayer1) to adjust LED brightness.
Hold the FN3 (which is assigned in your current layer, say Layer 1) + press LED Func (which is assigned in FNLayer3) to change the LED mode of your F-keys.
etc...
MFN key is useful to trigger FN key. E.g. press MFN three times within a second and then hold it = directly hold FN3.
So that you can use 1 single key (MFN) to perform FN1 - FN3 keys.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 11 September 2014, 13:02:17
Does anyone know exactly how the FNLayer's work? I can't figure out how it knows that on FNLayer1 that it should perform LED Brightness only but on FNLayer3 it knows to dance through the various lighting schemes while keeping in mind that I only see one set of LED commands in the firmware which are already assigned in FNLayer1.

Hold the FN1 (which is assigned in your current layer, say Layer 1) + press LED UP or LED DN (which is assigned in FNLayer1) to adjust LED brightness.
Hold the FN3 (which is assigned in your current layer, say Layer 1) + press LED Func (which is assigned in FNLayer3) to change the LED mode of your F-keys.
etc...
MFN key is useful to trigger FN key. E.g. press MFN three times within a second and then hold it = directly hold FN3.
So that you can use 1 single key (MFN) to perform FN1 - FN3 keys.

Hey dragonken, I understand how that part works (thank you btw) I just don't understand how the Lightsaver knows that FNLayer1 functions as LED Ctrl & LED Brightness only, but on FNLayer 3 it knows to perform LED Patterns, eg. pulse, etc.

In the keymapper software I only see the LED Ctrl w/ Brightness Up/Dn. How does FNLayer3 know to control the LED Patterns? Is that hard-coded into the PCB Controller ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Thu, 11 September 2014, 15:15:29
Finally figured out my file save problem (default file name not windows friendly), and the firmware that it came with had multiple keys flashed to the same key (hence my 2 Number pad "+ triggers).  I've been getting exercise carrying it around in my backpack, using it with my Surface Pro 2.  I've already got some scratches on it, and will just let that happen.  I like my gear having some wear and tear on them.  :thumb:

potato pic:

[attach=1]

Thanks again!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Thu, 11 September 2014, 21:01:20
Finally figured out my file save problem (default file name not windows friendly), and the firmware that it came with had multiple keys flashed to the same key (hence my 2 Number pad "+ triggers).  I've been getting exercise carrying it around in my backpack, using it with my Surface Pro 2.  I've already got some scratches on it, and will just let that happen.  I like my gear having some wear and tear on them.  :thumb:

potato pic:

(Attachment Link)

Thanks again!

Ah... we have similar plans :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:36:43
Oh man, I love layers! Elton, I just want to thank you for putting up with all my questions and following through on everything. Thanks again for running this successful GB <3 I love my Lightsaver!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 12 September 2014, 12:47:38
If anyone is having trouble creating macros, TrueCustom is translating the instruction for it atm.  I'll post it when it's ready.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 12 September 2014, 12:53:23
Finally figured out my file save problem (default file name not windows friendly), and the firmware that it came with had multiple keys flashed to the same key (hence my 2 Number pad "+ triggers).  I've been getting exercise carrying it around in my backpack, using it with my Surface Pro 2.  I've already got some scratches on it, and will just let that happen.  I like my gear having some wear and tear on them.  :thumb:

potato pic:

(Attachment Link)

Thanks again!
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130315142738/warriorcatclansrp/images/8/8a/Fap-l.png)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 12 September 2014, 13:18:13
If anyone is having trouble creating macros, TrueCustom is translating the instruction for it atm.  I'll post it when it's ready.
Awesome.
I think I got text macros to work one time, completely by accident, and never again.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:46:16
Oh yeah!

How do we go about getting them fancy acrylic doodads for the side thingiemajigs?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 12 September 2014, 21:34:08
Is there a way to map media keys (volume up/down) or is the mapping option for media keys in the software for Mac's only? I have Winders.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Sat, 13 September 2014, 14:43:54
Anyone know if the 02D keymapper software can enable usage under BIOS?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 15 September 2014, 18:31:57
ok, so...

The default led toggles are INS and F6 and F7?

I'm not getting anything when I hold down INS and press and hold F6 or F7.

I haven't flashed anything, this is still default. I just popped on some keys to test it.


Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Mon, 15 September 2014, 19:36:12
ok, so...

The default led toggles are INS and F6 and F7?

I'm not getting anything when I hold down INS and press and hold F6 or F7.

I haven't flashed anything, this is still default. I just popped on some keys to test it.




I don't think there is a "default" led control.  I was only able to adjust the LEDs once I had set buttons for the various functions (I put the light controls in the FN layers).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 15 September 2014, 19:39:08
flash it with the o2d keymapper software, the layers used in their default '02D Lightsaver Custom v1.x' will get you started..
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 15 September 2014, 20:15:13
well, i tried a link that elton suggested a few pages back, but i can't get the o2d mapper to connect...


Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 15 September 2014, 20:17:08
well, i tried a link that elton suggested a few pages back, but i can't get the o2d mapper to connect...




Did you download the Guide that Elton posted on page 29?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 15 September 2014, 20:26:02
yes.

I think my issue is that i need to remap and save before i do that.
But I have no idea how to do a correct mapping or one that makes sense.

Could someone perhaps share their hex?
I just need access to the led modes and such, dont care for macors and other stuffs.


EDIT: im on a winkey layout, with insert, delete,home, end, page up and page down going from left to right after the F12 key.

Thanks in advance,

-Blacke
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Mon, 15 September 2014, 20:45:30
yes.

I think my issue is that i need to remap and save before i do that.
But I have no idea how to do a correct mapping or one that makes sense.

Could someone perhaps share their hex?
I just need access to the led modes and such, dont care for macors and other stuffs.


EDIT: im on a winkey layout, with insert, delete,home, end, page up and page down going from left to right after the F12 key.

Thanks in advance,

-Blacke


Try to map FN1 & FN3 on Layer 1 instead of using the MFN key, let me know if that works.

If that doesn't work, pm me a pic of your layout and I'll make a .hex file for ya.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 16 September 2014, 10:52:20
Digi is the man!


Also, how bout them acrylic side pieces?
Anyone know a shop or somebody that sells them?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 16 September 2014, 10:57:54
Digi is the man!


Also, how bout them acrylic side pieces?
Anyone know a shop or somebody that sells them?

Someone was looking at getting them made for v1 and v2 a while ago. Cant remember who.
Someone should figure it out!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 10:42:51
I think I can do it from my secret source. Will be shipped to me and I will distribute it. Not sure about cost yet.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 17 September 2014, 10:50:21
My Lightsaver was delivered today!

I won't be home for another 3 weeks, so I can't even test it :(

Feels like torture  :p

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Fri, 19 September 2014, 21:08:31
I found one minor bug in the v1.5.333 keymapp. If all LEDs are turned off by the 'LED CTRL', the num lock key LED cannot light on.

I have to turn on the LED by 'LED CTRL' -> press num lock key twice to get it back.

dragonken
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Fri, 19 September 2014, 21:12:37
I found one minor bug in the v1.5.333 keymapp. If all LEDs are turned off by the 'LED CTRL', the num lock key LED cannot light on.

I have to turn on the LED by 'LED CTRL' -> press num lock key twice to get it back.

dragonken

yes, I noticed the same result.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: seedvd on Sun, 21 September 2014, 23:52:25
Whoo! I ordered a  Lightsaver V2 today from GB outside of this site.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:02:03
Whoo! I ordered a  Lightsaver V2 today from GB outside of this site.
And where would that be? If you don't mind telling.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:45:48
Whoo! I ordered a  Lightsaver V2 today from GB outside of this site.
And where would that be? If you don't mind telling.

yeah, is this legit?
i mean i have mine pretty close to secured [minus my funds D:] but that seems interesting, maybe I could use another case or pcb....
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 22 September 2014, 00:52:11
edit LOL
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Mon, 22 September 2014, 01:01:50
grabbed a colepack and deep beats. added 1 more of space bar to my order

i think you meant to post this in the pulse gb
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Mon, 22 September 2014, 01:09:15
Whoo! I ordered a  Lightsaver V2 today from GB outside of this site.
And where would that be? If you don't mind telling.

yeah, is this legit?
i mean i have mine pretty close to secured [minus my funds D:] but that seems interesting, maybe I could use another case or pcb....

Hmm guy with 5 posts suggests external site.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: seedvd on Mon, 22 September 2014, 02:16:35
Yeah, it is for real. Take a look at the GB: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_gb_do&document_srl=412282 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_gb_do&document_srl=412282).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 22 September 2014, 02:41:34
Yeah, it is for real. Take a look at the GB: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_gb_do&document_srl=412282 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_gb_do&document_srl=412282).

anyone speak korean help me out here?
is it possible to order just a case/plate/pcb? i might get a couple more parts
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: seedvd on Mon, 22 September 2014, 02:50:17
I am waiting for his reply if i can give you his email. I'd be glad to help you. Just wait. He said he has few left.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Mon, 22 September 2014, 06:36:12
I am waiting for his reply if i can give you his email. I'd be glad to help you. Just wait. He said he has few left.

do share! been looking for 1 all this time!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: seedvd on Mon, 22 September 2014, 12:09:46
I am sorry to tell you that he is not able to take orders this time because there is no left now.  I think I am the last person to take last one.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:41:54
In regards to the keymapping software, is there a way to choose which character resides on the 'shift layer'? (I dunno what you actually call it)
Take ;: for example.
Is there a way to make it so I have to press shift for ; and have : be the default?

Currently I achieve this just fine with xmodmap, so it's no big deal, but it'd be great to have a keyboard-side solution.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:44:44
In regards to the keymapping software, is there a way to choose which character resides on the 'shift layer'? (I dunno what you actually call it)
Take ;: for example.
Is there a way to make it so I have to press shift for ; and have : be the default?

Currently I achieve this just fine with xmodmap, so it's no big deal, but it'd be great to have a keyboard-side solution.

I think what you might be looking to do is put : on layer 1 & ; on layer 2 then just map the layer toggle or layer number to any key you want, does that work?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:57:00
In regards to the keymapping software, is there a way to choose which character resides on the 'shift layer'? (I dunno what you actually call it)
Take ;: for example.
Is there a way to make it so I have to press shift for ; and have : be the default?

Currently I achieve this just fine with xmodmap, so it's no big deal, but it'd be great to have a keyboard-side solution.

I think what you might be looking to do is put : on layer 1 & ; on layer 2 then just map the layer toggle or layer number to any key you want, does that work?
That seems a little unwieldy...
It'd throw off all my layers a little.
If that's the solution, would that mean that I'd need to set every secondary character like that?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:06:50
In regards to the keymapping software, is there a way to choose which character resides on the 'shift layer'? (I dunno what you actually call it)
Take ;: for example.
Is there a way to make it so I have to press shift for ; and have : be the default?

Currently I achieve this just fine with xmodmap, so it's no big deal, but it'd be great to have a keyboard-side solution.

I think what you might be looking to do is put : on layer 1 & ; on layer 2 then just map the layer toggle or layer number to any key you want, does that work?
That seems a little unwieldy...
It'd throw off all my layers a little.
If that's the solution, would that mean that I'd need to set every secondary character like that?


I haven't had a chance and tinker with macro's in the software but that might be what you're looking for?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:15:23
In regards to the keymapping software, is there a way to choose which character resides on the 'shift layer'? (I dunno what you actually call it)
Take ;: for example.
Is there a way to make it so I have to press shift for ; and have : be the default?

Currently I achieve this just fine with xmodmap, so it's no big deal, but it'd be great to have a keyboard-side solution.

I think what you might be looking to do is put : on layer 1 & ; on layer 2 then just map the layer toggle or layer number to any key you want, does that work?
That seems a little unwieldy...
It'd throw off all my layers a little.
If that's the solution, would that mean that I'd need to set every secondary character like that?


I haven't had a chance and tinker with macro's in the software but that might be what you're looking for?
I haven't been able to get macros working at all with my Light Pad, and I won't have another Duck board to try them on until I get my Viper, so I dunno if that'll work.
Thanks for trying to help, though :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 24 September 2014, 11:28:33
*poke*

*poke*

Them acrylic pieces...

MUST HAZ!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:28:27
I can get the side inserts for $4 a pair.  I'll make an order form tomorrow.

Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:54:57
I can get the side inserts for $4 a pair.  I'll make an order form tomorrow.

Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
May we have options for lightsaver v1 and orion?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:00:47
I'll cover all their keyboard that can use the inserts.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:05:36
Thank u Elton !
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 25 September 2014, 00:48:43
I'll cover all their keyboard that can use the inserts.
Sweet, thanks Elton. :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:25:52
Yay! Orion here we come!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:40:43
Fill up form here if interested in the side inserts

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JF3Z_Wox5JC7_Fcla1fHPLuZURSXM9OdYFvwBs78DLo/viewform
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:44:11
Done!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:45:29
Each set comes with 2 inserts, so if you put 2 you will get 4.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:50:27
That's the idea. ;)
I will be trying to frost one set myself using sandpaper and patience.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:50:53
Filled out the form.    :thumb:

Excited to see the insert GB get rolling.  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:08:04
Found an instruction about frosting the clear acrylic  :p
http://www.instructables.com/id/Music-LED-Light-Box/step3/Frosting-and-Diffusing/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:08:45
chea!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:49:43
SCORE!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:00:59
What's the major advantage of these inserts?

Is the light spread better? Can somepne provide comparison pics please?

I am not sure if I need these for my Lightsaver V2  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:06:58
What's the major advantage of these inserts?

Is the light spread better? Can somepne provide comparison pics please?

I am not sure if I need these for my Lightsaver V2  :p

For dat swag lyfe, Lechner!

(http://cfile28.uf.tistory.com/image/2652B73F5252ACD11BE9CC)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:08:05
You can see the difference in photoelectric's album.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:19:58
So sad I missed this group buy.

Any chance of a round 2?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 25 September 2014, 11:22:26
Thanks for the fast reply guys  :thumb:

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 25 September 2014, 14:57:51
You can see the difference in photoelectric's album.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/

Those keys are insatiable.  Is that some combo of old typewriter keys and newer keys?  Loving the "Interrupt" and "Delete" key beneath it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Thu, 25 September 2014, 15:17:46


You can see the difference in photoelectric's album.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/

Those keys are insatiable.  Is that some combo of old typewriter keys and newer keys?  Loving the "Interrupt" and "Delete" key beneath it.

Where does one purchase these "insatiable" keycaps? But seriously - those were a great find. Anyone know where to find these or something similar?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Thu, 25 September 2014, 15:26:39
So sad I missed this group buy.

Any chance of a round 2?

This... so much this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 25 September 2014, 16:16:11


You can see the difference in photoelectric's album.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/photoelectric_effect/sets/72157640117516876/

Those keys are insatiable.  Is that some combo of old typewriter keys and newer keys?  Loving the "Interrupt" and "Delete" key beneath it.

Where does one purchase these "insatiable" keycaps? But seriously - those were a great find. Anyone know where to find these or something similar?
I think those keycaps are from WEY HK2000, you might find more info here
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=17170.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 26 September 2014, 19:15:02
So sad I missed this group buy.

Any chance of a round 2?

This... so much this.
Would buy it INSTANTLY if there was  round 2.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:09:23
Here is the tutorial on how to set up macros.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Sun, 28 September 2014, 21:22:08
So excited to play with mine once my usb cord comes in!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Sun, 28 September 2014, 21:36:34
Here is the tutorial on how to set up macros.



thank you Elton
i don't really use macros but will give it a whirl some time.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 28 September 2014, 22:12:51
I forgot to mention that I would prefer you guys send me the payment for the acrylic side inserts via gift payment instead of me having to invoice you guys (over 50 right now).

I'll probably stop collecting after next weekend, so we can have this in our hands quicker.

Each set is $4 + whatever gift payment fee you would have to pay to send the money to me.

Make sure you make a note stating your username, name, etc on the comment so I know who you are.

I think you guys who ordered from me before have my paypal email already. If you don't send me a PM.

EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHIPPING...

I still don't know the exact amount yet..do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:15:01
do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?

If possible it would be better to pay everything at once.

With split payments you have to pay Paypal fees twice :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 29 September 2014, 21:53:08
Since I live in Asia,
wouldn't it cost me less if I get it send out straight from Korea?
would it be from Korea though? lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 21:55:18
I forgot to mention that I would prefer you guys send me the payment for the acrylic side inserts via gift payment instead of me having to invoice you guys (over 50 right now).

I'll probably stop collecting after next weekend, so we can have this in our hands quicker.

Each set is $4 + whatever gift payment fee you would have to pay to send the money to me.

Make sure you make a note stating your username, name, etc on the comment so I know who you are

I think you guys who ordered from me before have my paypal email already. If you don't send me a PM.


EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHIPPING...

I still don't know the exact amount yet..do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right..  This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope.  If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.

Canada: up to 6 sets - $3

US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
      up to 6 sets - $6

International: up to 3 sets - $7
                    up to 6 sets - $11


To send me money

= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee

should we use the email from the invoice?
[/quote]

If anyone doesn't read the other threads.


Since I live in Asia,
wouldn't it cost me less if I get it send out straight from Korea?
would it be from Korea though? lol

I am not sure how much it cost if it is shipped from SK..They didn't really want to do this, but they did, so I don't want them to ship anything for me..


If anyone in China wants to buy a bunch of Lightsaver V2s, V2 PCBs, and Orions, go message them!

http://duck0113.tistory.com/100
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Mon, 29 September 2014, 22:49:39
I'm not in China but I really want a light saver v2 haha
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:38:32
I'm not in China but I really want a light saver v2 haha

Picked up a bunch of acryl sides, why is china getting special treatment? :P
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:57:05
I'm not in China but I really want a light saver v2 haha

lol same. it's pretty popular though, maybe we can keep our fingers crossed for a v3.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 30 September 2014, 18:44:05
How many out there are still interested in buying a V2? Should we start and interest check and buy the 17 Lightsavers from the cancelled order?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Elocutive on Tue, 30 September 2014, 18:57:49
How many out there are still interested in buying a V2? Should we start and interest check and buy the 17 Lightsavers from the cancelled order?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes please.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 19:02:07
How many out there are still interested in buying a V2? Should we start and interest check and buy the 17 Lightsavers from the cancelled order?

Interested
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 30 September 2014, 20:51:52
How many out there are still interested in buying a V2? Should we start and interest check and buy the 17 Lightsavers from the cancelled order?

Interested

I missed on this GB, wont mind jumping in if there is another one soon or later down the road.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:06:40
I don't know who would manage the group buy but I could at least start and interest check thread. Elton doesn't think there would be enough if us to warrant a GB and he might be right. I'm told we need at least 20 orders - 30 ideally.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:08:50
if u do the ic, im in
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Elocutive on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:44:41
I don't know who would manage the group buy but I could at least start and interest check thread. Elton doesn't think there would be enough if us to warrant a GB and he might be right. I'm told we need at least 20 orders - 30 ideally.
I would buy one if it got to that stage.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Wed, 01 October 2014, 00:57:58
Yeah I'm in too if we can get a gb going.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Wed, 01 October 2014, 09:46:00
count me in for a set if you guys get it going :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 01 October 2014, 10:15:43
I count six already and I'm sure there's more that aren't checking this thread. I say boot up that IC and see what happens!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Zombly on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:38:12
If I could, I'd buy another lol, I love mine just got it set up yesterday didn't want to stop typing on it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:15:18
Well in that case I'll start an IC thread [EDIT] this weekend if no one beats me to it. We can worry about who will coordinate the GB later.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: KushZEN on Sat, 04 October 2014, 03:48:26
If anyone has a lightsaver for sale, I'd happily buy one. Kind of in a desperate situation since my main keyboard is dead, and need a new replacement asap.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:46:25
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true

Spreadsheet for the acrylic inserts.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:34:52
Was there any insight to using the Lightsaver V2 in BIOS/GRUB using Duck's firmware editor?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:55:23
Finally got home after 5months abroad and my Lightsaver was already waiting for me:

(http://i.imgur.com/5QixUfn.jpg)

I put the DSA Dolch set on it, but don't really dig the flat DSA profile on this angled board.

I will replace the keys with the GMK Dolch set as soon as I get them from Ivan.


I haven't really played around with it yet and can't even figure out how to control the lighting. Any tips for me?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:11:50
Here's the post with the tutorial

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1465443#msg1465443
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:48:50
Here's the post with the tutorial

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1465443#msg1465443

Thanks!

I hope this guide is idiot proof, so I can work with it :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:00:40
Just curious,

Did anyone feel the need to put shelf liner in their lightsaver?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blighty on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:11:57
Just curious,

Did anyone feel the need to put shelf liner in their lightsaver?


I used the thin packing material that the keyboard was wrapped in.  The neoprene layer I put in my phantom was too thick to fit. 
Also, does no one want/need/able to use this board in BIOS/GRUB modes?

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:33:51
Just curious,

Did anyone feel the need to put shelf liner in their lightsaver?

i put shelf liner in mine. not much of a need... but rather an ocd itch. ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:48:48
does no one want/need/able to use this board in BIOS/GRUB modes?
This sounds troubling.
Is it a LightSaver-specific quirk, or do all Duck boards suffer from this?
I'd hate to have to keep a second board connected just for reboots.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 09 October 2014, 02:07:49
does no one want/need/able to use this board in BIOS/GRUB modes?
This sounds troubling.
Is it a LightSaver-specific quirk, or do all Duck boards suffer from this?
I'd hate to have to keep a second board connected just for reboots.
So this is a general problem, I have the same issue with faceU ps2avr board. For my board I found a workaround, if the board is connected to a powered USB hub it works also in BIOS/GRUB
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 09 October 2014, 09:59:11
Just curious,

Did anyone feel the need to put shelf liner in their lightsaver?

Absolutely.  I also have thin silicone o-rings between the case stand-offs and the PCB, as without them, I don't like how rigid the typing experience is.  It sounded very metallic before all that and felt too rigid when typing, even on cushiony stock Clears.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 10 October 2014, 01:33:32
edit: I got a v2 1800 plate :D thanks
I SUPER NEED A LIGHTSAVER 1800 PLATE ASAP, PLEASE HELP WILL PAY
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Thu, 16 October 2014, 22:06:09
Just curious,

Did anyone feel the need to put shelf liner in their lightsaver?

Absolutely.  I also have thin silicone o-rings between the case stand-offs and the PCB, as without them, I don't like how rigid the typing experience is.  It sounded very metallic before all that and felt too rigid when typing, even on cushiony stock Clears.

heya photo, which shelf liner and silicone o-rings did you use if you don't mind? ty
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dragonken on Sat, 18 October 2014, 05:04:50
I just filled the order form of acrylic inserts.

orion inserts x 1
light saver v2 x1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Tue, 21 October 2014, 21:35:31
**** I forgot to pay for the acrylic ! Elton, Pm me your PayPal and amount needed
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:15:45
Me too. Elton can you please send me the paypal invoice for the insert? Thanks!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 22 October 2014, 03:21:47
He already ordered them, guys.
You might be outta luck.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 25 October 2014, 22:55:46
When is there going to be another run of the v2 or a release of v3? I just saw a v2 with the 1800 and I need one....
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 16:03:38
I finally set mine up this weekend!

The only problem I'm encountering is that the scroll lock is not working on my Mac.  This works on other keyboards, it looks like the keycode might be the wrong one (odd as it works on my PC).

I need to have scroll lock work as I went with the layout without dedicated arrow keys (need them on my numpad).  I was wondering if I could fake a scroll lock by using some kind of a function toggle key but I don't see that in the mapper for the LightSaver v1.x, I do see one in the v1.9a but the keyboard didn't work after I flashed it with that. Back to a v1.x one and it works, but still no scroll lock in Mac.

Did anyone run into this?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 02 November 2014, 18:39:25
I finally set mine up this weekend!

The only problem I'm encountering is that the scroll lock is not working on my Mac.  This works on other keyboards, it looks like the keycode might be the wrong one (odd as it works on my PC).

I need to have scroll lock work as I went with the layout without dedicated arrow keys (need them on my numpad).  I was wondering if I could fake a scroll lock by using some kind of a function toggle key but I don't see that in the mapper for the LightSaver v1.x, I do see one in the v1.9a but the keyboard didn't work after I flashed it with that. Back to a v1.x one and it works, but still no scroll lock in Mac.

Did anyone run into this?

I haven't tested this or encountered this problem but have you tried the trick of setting your windows localization to korean? It's what was preventing some people from having functioning arrows and I suspect the scroll lock might be the same issue.
If you've already tried forgive me and contrats on your lightsaver.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 19:03:46
I finally set mine up this weekend!

The only problem I'm encountering is that the scroll lock is not working on my Mac.  This works on other keyboards, it looks like the keycode might be the wrong one (odd as it works on my PC).

I need to have scroll lock work as I went with the layout without dedicated arrow keys (need them on my numpad).  I was wondering if I could fake a scroll lock by using some kind of a function toggle key but I don't see that in the mapper for the LightSaver v1.x, I do see one in the v1.9a but the keyboard didn't work after I flashed it with that. Back to a v1.x one and it works, but still no scroll lock in Mac.

Did anyone run into this?

I haven't tested this or encountered this problem but have you tried the trick of setting your windows localization to korean? It's what was preventing some people from having functioning arrows and I suspect the scroll lock might be the same issue.
If you've already tried forgive me and contrats on your lightsaver.

Thanks! I don't think that's the issue, however.  The key gets set properly (and I can see it in the keymapper tool) it just seems to not work on the Mac side.  It does work in Windows.  I'm wondering if there's a more ubiquitous keycode that is sent for the numlock that other keyboards use.

It's strange, on my Mac side the Numlock key is coming through as the Clear key (You can get this on Windows with Numlock Off + Numpad 5).  I've hooked it up to two different version of OSX and both are doing the same thing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 15:14:34
Alright, upon further investigation it definitely seems like this is a Mac issue, and I guess I remembered wrong because none of my custom boards have a working Num Lock on Mac!!

Is there any way to toggle a function layer on? I see that the 1.9a firmware has a FN TOGGLE switch option.  Is there any way to do that with the 1.x? I could basically make my own Num Lock mode like this.  I don't want to have to keep the Function key pressed...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: gogusrl on Mon, 03 November 2014, 15:47:31
any way to buy just the pcb from somewhere or a clonepcb with similar layout ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:44:09
Alright, upon further investigation it definitely seems like this is a Mac issue, and I guess I remembered wrong because none of my custom boards have a working Num Lock on Mac!!

Is there any way to toggle a function layer on? I see that the 1.9a firmware has a FN TOGGLE switch option.  Is there any way to do that with the 1.x? I could basically make my own Num Lock mode like this.  I don't want to have to keep the Function key pressed...

This I can help you with!
For clarity sake, Lightsaver has Layer 1, 2, 3, 4 and Layer FN 1, 2, 3.

Edit:
Ly 1-4 will set your keyboard to Layer 1-4 respectively.
If you set your Num Lock to "Ly 2" and then on Layer 2 set Num Lock to "Ly 1" I believe you'll get the effect you're looking for.
Layer TG is layer toggle.(not sure how it works) Layer CH is layer change.(Pretty sure it moves to the next layer. Ly+1)
MFN is the key you're looking for.
(old info kept for others to see)
Info for others.
If you hold MFN you access the Layer FN 1.
MFN, I have concluded, stands for multi-function.
If you press the MFN key twice, and hold it on the second press, you access Layer FN 2;
on the third press, you get Layer FN 3.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 15:08:10
Alright, upon further investigation it definitely seems like this is a Mac issue, and I guess I remembered wrong because none of my custom boards have a working Num Lock on Mac!!

Is there any way to toggle a function layer on? I see that the 1.9a firmware has a FN TOGGLE switch option.  Is there any way to do that with the 1.x? I could basically make my own Num Lock mode like this.  I don't want to have to keep the Function key pressed...

This I can help you with!
For clarity sake, Lightsaver has Layer 1, 2, 3, 4 and Layer FN 1, 2, 3.

Edit:
Ly 1-4 will set your keyboard to Layer 1-4 respectively.
If you set your Num Lock to "Ly 2" and then on Layer 2 set Num Lock to "Ly 1" I believe you'll get the effect you're looking for.
Layer TG is layer toggle.(not sure how it works) Layer CH is layer change.(Pretty sure it moves to the next layer. Ly+1)
MFN is the key you're looking for.
(old info kept for others to see)
Info for others.
If you hold MFN you access the Layer FN 1.
MFN, I have concluded, stands for multi-function.
If you press the MFN key twice, and hold it on the second press, you access Layer FN 2;
on the third press, you get Layer FN 3.

Awesome, thanks! I'll be giving this a shot tonight, will report back :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 04 November 2014, 15:24:58
How do you get back to Layer 1 with the MFN key?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 04 November 2014, 19:45:56
How do you get back to Layer 1 with the MFN key?

MFN functions much like a regular function key.
While holding it down[after a single press] you're on Layer FN 1, when you let go you're on whatever normal layer you left off on.
If you were on Layer 2 and used single-press-MFN you'd still be on Layer FN 1.
You can't navigate the regular layers with MFN, just the FN layers.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 21:49:04
Alright, upon further investigation it definitely seems like this is a Mac issue, and I guess I remembered wrong because none of my custom boards have a working Num Lock on Mac!!

Is there any way to toggle a function layer on? I see that the 1.9a firmware has a FN TOGGLE switch option.  Is there any way to do that with the 1.x? I could basically make my own Num Lock mode like this.  I don't want to have to keep the Function key pressed...

This I can help you with!
For clarity sake, Lightsaver has Layer 1, 2, 3, 4 and Layer FN 1, 2, 3.

Edit:
Ly 1-4 will set your keyboard to Layer 1-4 respectively.
If you set your Num Lock to "Ly 2" and then on Layer 2 set Num Lock to "Ly 1" I believe you'll get the effect you're looking for.
Layer TG is layer toggle.(not sure how it works) Layer CH is layer change.(Pretty sure it moves to the next layer. Ly+1)
MFN is the key you're looking for.
(old info kept for others to see)
Info for others.
If you hold MFN you access the Layer FN 1.
MFN, I have concluded, stands for multi-function.
If you press the MFN key twice, and hold it on the second press, you access Layer FN 2;
on the third press, you get Layer FN 3.

Awesome, thanks! I'll be giving this a shot tonight, will report back :)

Works! Awesome!! Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Wed, 05 November 2014, 04:11:18
Does anyone know how I can stop that blinking light? I have no idea how to turn it off.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:27:56
Maybe this?



There are 2 modes in which that LED can be:  either blinking every 2 seconds to let you know which layer you are in at all times or you can change it to only show you the layer number when changing into that layer, and then that LED will remain off until the next layer change.  To switch between these two modes:

LLB: default LED Blink mode (every 2 seconds)
LLN: "Normal" LED mode (off until changing layers)

  • Enter Control Mode (press the C/M button); the Layer Status LED should be lit now without blinking
  • type LLN (or LLB) and press Enter
  • Exit Control Mode by pressing Esc

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:58:20
wondering when will next GB be for this board again
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 11 November 2014, 19:40:44

wondering when will next GB be for this board again

Yes, this layout looks rad. I missed the first round as well. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:12:09
Same, this is my most wanted keyboard.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Chedda7 on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:23:37
Also interested in getting in on a GB for this.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:33:53
If another GB happens I'm all in. But I'm also keen to see what Duck comes up with next after the Octagon 75%.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:58:46
For those who ordered the acrylic inserts, I'll have them shipped next Friday or so.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/97f9a6dd5fe743a632561a7181d00eab.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sniping on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:08:31
Crap, forgot to pay for mine...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:23:56
I got extras..

Here's the spreadsheet for the inserts

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:02:15
wondering when will next GB be for this board again


wondering when will next GB be for this board again

Yes, this layout looks rad. I missed the first round as well. 

Same, this is my most wanted keyboard.

If another GB happens I'm all in. But I'm also keen to see what Duck comes up with next after the Octagon 75%.

Also interested in getting in on a GB for this.

Elton you should talk to duck, there's probably at least 20 people on GH that want lightsavers.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:44:48
Craigs got the right idea.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:46:34
My wallet is ready...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: animaliaparadoxa on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:49:57
I really do think there's the demand for another group buy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 14 November 2014, 18:06:01
I'd get in on most likely
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Sat, 15 November 2014, 01:54:31
Hi elton can i buy the inserts for my lightsaver v2 since you have extras. u were supposed to invoice me but it didnt happen...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 15 November 2014, 02:12:46
Hi elton can i buy the inserts for my lightsaver v2 since you have extras. u were supposed to invoice me but it didnt happen...

He never invoiced someone for the inserts. He asked before to send the payment as gifts to his paypal account.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Sat, 15 November 2014, 20:21:51
Thanks for the info.. Must have missed it. Are there any extras for purchase ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 15 November 2014, 21:31:14
Send me a PM with your address and name and what you want and i'll add you to the list..

If you can't send gift payments, I guess I can send you an invoice.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 15 November 2014, 21:46:35
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 15 November 2014, 22:48:09
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

Shall we create an IC thread than?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 15 November 2014, 23:36:29
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

I'd maybe be in for a PCB and plate depending on the price, if thats an option. I want the 1800 layout for my V1 case.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Sat, 15 November 2014, 23:51:30
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

Count me in for paying. I've been making threads everywhere trying to find this board, so I'm definitely good for the money.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: gogusrl on Sun, 16 November 2014, 01:03:31
Plate and pcb for me as well.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 16 November 2014, 09:51:28
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 16 November 2014, 10:09:29
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.
I am perfectly good with that. I'm sure most people will be too!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 10:30:23
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.

that sounds good, let all wallets recover a bit ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 16 November 2014, 11:11:36
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.

that sounds good, let all wallets recover a bit ;)

Sounds splendid.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Chedda7 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 15:33:08
Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kennyk64 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 19:13:41
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

Hi Elton, if you have extras can you send me an invoice too? Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 17 November 2014, 12:54:08
Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 

dude not just pcb and plate.... we want the case too cause it looks bad ass
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Mon, 17 November 2014, 12:55:51
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.

Yeah this sounds good!
That or we can keep our fingers crossed for a V3 lol
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 17 November 2014, 13:17:34
As for another group buy for the lightsaver v2s, they want at least 30 orders to even consider.  I'm not sure if we can get that many.  30 may fill in the order form, but will they all pay..?

@elton: thank you for the info.

Yeah 30 is a lot of full kits. I'll try an IC after the new year when everyone's wallets have recovered from Christmas.
I think we could get 30 orders next spring, might even get another one myself.  :rolleyes:
For everyone interested, hold your breath until the new year and we'll see if we can't round up 30 people in February/march.

that sounds good, let all wallets recover a bit ;)

This.

Will have spent 900 dollars on keyboards this month, could definitely use the break!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Karura on Tue, 18 November 2014, 01:01:34
Just expressing interest for the next round.

This is something I've wanted 100% and won't back out on, due to it being a completely unique layout :thumb:

That said, what are the chances of an upgrade to RGB LEDs and stuff like that, or hard anodized cases?

I feel that it would really add value and desirability to an already great keyboard.

Elton, what are the chances of pushing it to a LightSaver V3 with these additions?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Tue, 18 November 2014, 06:45:15
Hi Elton . pmed u my address n email for invoice :) thank u
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 18 November 2014, 07:12:12
Hi Elton . pmed u my address n email for invoice :) thank u

I PM'd you if it's for one set of lightsaver v2 inserts..

Regarding another round of lightsavers, maybe in several months.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: feizor on Tue, 18 November 2014, 17:33:14
Hi Elton . pmed u my address n email for invoice :) thank u

I PM'd you if it's for one set of lightsaver v2 inserts..

Regarding another round of lightsavers, maybe in several months.

Sweet!  Time to start saving
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 19 November 2014, 08:53:25
Regarding another round of lightsavers, maybe in several months.

Great timing, my wallet will be ready.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:05:50
Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 

Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 

dude not just pcb and plate.... we want the case too cause it looks bad ass

The reason I believe is mostly that duck does not want to offer just pcbs and plates.
They were an add-on to the full group buy last time. I believe it is encouraged to buy a full kit.
That said, there were DWGs available on his site to have your own acrylic case cut, so maybe PCB/PLATE was always intended.
Regardless, I'll be PMing each and every one of you [being everyone expressing interest thus far] come the start of Feb.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 19 November 2014, 19:54:45
Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 

Seems a few people, including myself, are interested in a PCB+Plate combo.  Would a GB for just those items be possible?  This would drive the cost down and make it easier to manage (I assume since I have no experience doing this).  A lower price on a unique (and amazing) layout would probably entice more members to join. 

dude not just pcb and plate.... we want the case too cause it looks bad ass

The reason I believe is mostly that duck does not want to offer just pcbs and plates.
They were an add-on to the full group buy last time. I believe it is encouraged to buy a full kit.
That said, there were DWGs available on his site to have your own acrylic case cut, so maybe PCB/PLATE was always intended.
Regardless, I'll be PMing each and every one of you [being everyone expressing interest thus far] come the start of Feb.

once again, passing new years is a good idea in hopes people will recharge their walletts
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Thu, 20 November 2014, 10:48:11
Hi Elton . pmed u my address n email for invoice :) thank u

I PM'd you if it's for one set of lightsaver v2 inserts..

Regarding another round of lightsavers, maybe in several months.
Hi Elton. Yes the inserts are for my light saver version 2 .. Do you have inserts for three butterfly pad as well ? I'll buy one set of each than you
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 November 2014, 11:44:31
I would really like another shot at the light pads.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 23 November 2014, 03:47:36
Light pads would be good, or just the specs on how to have them cut. I met some guys that cut acrylic and they may be able to hook me up.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 24 November 2014, 21:28:24
I would really love to have one of these. Layout seems perfect for me. Count me very much in for next time.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 01:25:16
Are there any significant number of people that are interested in another round of V2? I was debating getting in on the Octagon buy... but I'd much much rather have a Lightsaver for the money -- it's just so unique/different. I already have a few 75% boards... I just wanted one with an aluminum case... but the Lightsaver... that's just.... yeah. Maybe I should hold out and pray for a lightsaver buy to come around...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 26 November 2014, 02:29:50
Are there any significant number of people that are interested in another round of V2? I was debating getting in on the Octagon buy... but I'd much much rather have a Lightsaver for the money -- it's just so unique/different. I already have a few 75% boards... I just wanted one with an aluminum case... but the Lightsaver... that's just.... yeah. Maybe I should hold out and pray for a lightsaver buy to come around...

If you read a couple posts back, there are tons of people interested and the plan is to start another interest check right around the end of winter so that we can have a spring group buy for the lightsaver v2. That is assuming that a v3 doesn't come out before then. The number of people we need is around 30, and that is to actually buy in, not just interest.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 10:30:54
That sounds amazing! Thank you btw. I must have missed that, I did go through and read the thread before posting, but probably didn't see that part.

I'll probably hold off on the Octagon and then get in on the Lightsaver properly :D awesome I'm excited that there's a chance of this happening again. These Duck buys have seemed to have a really good success rate and turnover time, so I'm really stoked at the reality of getting one.

BTW for the octagon and for any of the duck buys in the past, when they do group buys, are the cases available to buy separately?
?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 26 November 2014, 11:43:05
That sounds amazing! Thank you btw. I must have missed that, I did go through and read the thread before posting, but probably didn't see that part.

I'll probably hold off on the Octagon and then get in on the Lightsaver properly :D awesome I'm excited that there's a chance of this happening again. These Duck buys have seemed to have a really good success rate and turnover time, so I'm really stoked at the reality of getting one.

BTW for the octagon and for any of the duck buys in the past, when they do group buys, are the cases available to buy separately?
?

Personally I would pass on the Octagon in favor of a light saver. It is just so much more unique!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:03:28
That sounds amazing! Thank you btw. I must have missed that, I did go through and read the thread before posting, but probably didn't see that part.

I'll probably hold off on the Octagon and then get in on the Lightsaver properly :D awesome I'm excited that there's a chance of this happening again. These Duck buys have seemed to have a really good success rate and turnover time, so I'm really stoked at the reality of getting one.

BTW for the octagon and for any of the duck buys in the past, when they do group buys, are the cases available to buy separately?
?

Personally I would pass on the Octagon in favor of a light saver. It is just so much more unique!


Yeah, thats exactly why. I have an MX-Mini, and GON just put out his NERD MX-Mini which I'm wanting for the Nerdy GUI support... on top of that, I still have a Keycool84 w/browns around as as backup/lender, so already gonna have enough 75% boards... can't really justify the cost -- especially when you factor in that without stabilizers, you're gonna have to order them shipped expensive from GON or imsto or someone. ...

Had the MX-Minis not been available, I may have considered going out on a limb for it because I do love the 75% layout (possibly my favorite layout?) but the Lightsaver is so unique and there's so many possibilities with it. It's a gorgeous board and there's just nothing like it out there. I would definitely love to add one to my collection. Once "all the smoke settles" I think that's one of the boards I'd like to still be owning. That and some kind of mx-mini.

BTW, do you know the name of this layout?
I love it but have never seen it on another keyboard before. It's like a 75% without the F-row, and then one more column of keys on the left. Which is perfect. I don't use the F-row enough to warrant dedicating keys to it. Fn+Number row is adequate for my usage. The Leopold 660m/c almost hit the nail on the head for me, except ins and delete are the two least used keys from the formatting cluster I use. I do a lot of text editing so home/end are essential to me, and page up and down are very nice to have. I've yet to see that floating around here.

Back on topic anyways, LIGHTSAVER LIGHTSAVER LIGHTSAVER CHOOOODAI! GIMME!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:31:46
BTW, do you know the name of this layout?
I love it but have never seen it on another keyboard before. It's like a 75% without the F-row, and then one more column of keys on the left. Which is perfect. I don't use the F-row enough to warrant dedicating keys to it. Fn+Number row is adequate for my usage. The Leopold 660m/c almost hit the nail on the head for me, except ins and delete are the two least used keys from the formatting cluster I use. I do a lot of text editing so home/end are essential to me, and page up and down are very nice to have. I've yet to see that floating around here.
Looks a lot like this board (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61714.0). The Smart 68 layout. But it lacks the extra left row. You could ask the girl in the video. ;)

EDIT: Also looks similar to the EQ-22MX AMB Acrylic Custom Keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41055.0)

My best guess is, especially because of the blocker in the top-left corner, that it's a custom custom Korean board. :P
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Wed, 26 November 2014, 14:17:37
That sounds amazing! Thank you btw. I must have missed that, I did go through and read the thread before posting, but probably didn't see that part.

I'll probably hold off on the Octagon and then get in on the Lightsaver properly :D awesome I'm excited that there's a chance of this happening again. These Duck buys have seemed to have a really good success rate and turnover time, so I'm really stoked at the reality of getting one.

BTW for the octagon and for any of the duck buys in the past, when they do group buys, are the cases available to buy separately?
?

Personally I would pass on the Octagon in favor of a light saver. It is just so much more unique!


Yeah, thats exactly why. I have an MX-Mini, and GON just put out his NERD MX-Mini which I'm wanting for the Nerdy GUI support... on top of that, I still have a Keycool84 w/browns around as as backup/lender, so already gonna have enough 75% boards... can't really justify the cost -- especially when you factor in that without stabilizers, you're gonna have to order them shipped expensive from GON or imsto or someone. ...

Had the MX-Minis not been available, I may have considered going out on a limb for it because I do love the 75% layout (possibly my favorite layout?) but the Lightsaver is so unique and there's so many possibilities with it. It's a gorgeous board and there's just nothing like it out there. I would definitely love to add one to my collection. Once "all the smoke settles" I think that's one of the boards I'd like to still be owning. That and some kind of mx-mini.

BTW, do you know the name of this layout?
I love it but have never seen it on another keyboard before. It's like a 75% without the F-row, and then one more column of keys on the left. Which is perfect. I don't use the F-row enough to warrant dedicating keys to it. Fn+Number row is adequate for my usage. The Leopold 660m/c almost hit the nail on the head for me, except ins and delete are the two least used keys from the formatting cluster I use. I do a lot of text editing so home/end are essential to me, and page up and down are very nice to have. I've yet to see that floating around here.

Back on topic anyways, LIGHTSAVER LIGHTSAVER LIGHTSAVER CHOOOODAI! GIMME!

that looks like a kailet 22 mini. (but with an extra left column? dunno if that's modded)

http://22kbd.com/128
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 27 November 2014, 05:38:12
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 27 November 2014, 05:40:23
Walk us through your steps.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: deci on Thu, 27 November 2014, 19:37:02
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Blackehart on Tue, 02 December 2014, 12:58:00
Out of curiosity How are you guys affixing the acrylics to the case?
I have a couple of pairs so I'm looking for a semi permanent solution. (Going to try sanding a pair to get that diffused look)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 02 December 2014, 15:02:17
Do you think that the v3 will support ALPS? I would totally be down for that.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 December 2014, 15:10:19
Do you think that the v3 will support ALPS? I would totally be down for that.

I'll keep an eye out for you in my travels on OTD and KBDlab.

Consider your interest registered over there.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 02 December 2014, 15:22:15
Do you think that the v3 will support ALPS? I would totally be down for that.

I'll keep an eye out for you in my travels on OTD and KBDlab.

Consider your interest registered over there.

Thanks pal!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:03:13
Out of curiosity How are you guys affixing the acrylics to the case?
I have a couple of pairs so I'm looking for a semi permanent solution. (Going to try sanding a pair to get that diffused look)
Well, you are in luck since I decided to make a simple guide using my Orion.

Ingredients:
- Chef's hat
- A flat surface
- A thin clear double sided tape (I used Scotch 3M photo & document tape (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/au/en005/office/office/node_GSDST0F6L0gs/root_D58K9TX3VWgv/vroot_G3SJG25V2Hge/bgel_5VDGDXS87Tbl/gvel_WMK00LBHNRgl/theme_au_office_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html))
- 400 (or lower) Grit sandpaper (I prefer the waterproof version for less dust and a smoother finish. The coarser the grit, or the lower the grit number, the more diffused the look.)
- Painters tape (to hold everything in place
- Water & paper towel (for cleaning in between sanding and/or to put on the sandpaper)

#1
Attach everything to the surface you will be working on.
(http://i.imgur.com/3mGowjXh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/3mGowjX)
The piece in the middle is the sandpaper.

#2
Prepare your acrylic pieces
(http://i.imgur.com/lGKAwROh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lGKAwRO)
Clean them first and remove the protective tape on the sides.

#3
Start sanding
(http://i.imgur.com/Xvbanlzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Xvbanlz)
Sand using a light pressure and preferably using a circular motion. You will notice that the larger area will take the most time because it takes a while to completely flatten it.
If you are using a lower/rougher grit (let's say all you can get is grit 100) end by making a side by side movement to align the scratches in the material. You won't notice them when they are mounted but we want some quality on these high end keyboards don't we?

(http://i.imgur.com/e4OXn4wh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e4OXn4w)
Keep going

(http://i.imgur.com/BQ2Uaxch.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BQ2Uaxc)
Sides as well

(http://i.imgur.com/rCZqnkjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/rCZqnkj)
Things are getting messy with the water but it actually aids in achieving a smooth finish

#4
Clean up.

Just make sure you wash your sanded pieces under some running water to get rid of all the dust you will have created. Maybe use a bit of dish soap to get rid of any grease so it attaches properly

#5
Stick it in

(http://i.imgur.com/NNmdHuPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/NNmdHuP)
Clean the underside and remove those greasy fingerprints

(http://i.imgur.com/RCkX9Bzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RCkX9Bz)
Cut the double sided tape to size and stick it on (This is actually the most annoying part)

(http://i.imgur.com/je4UamIh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/je4UamI)
Remove the protective sheet

(http://i.imgur.com/EvOadsbh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/EvOadsb)
Stick on the acrylic pieces. Angle them outwards to line them up then fold inwards

(http://i.imgur.com/5NTP0nNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/5NTP0nN)
Voil

End results
(http://i.imgur.com/J6dF04qh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/J6dF04q)

No inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/8AJXKTCh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8AJXKTC)
Like an alien spacecraft, all you can see is the two lights

Clear inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)
Not bad. The edges of the acrylic have a nice glow but except for that they might as well not be here

Frosted inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)
There we go! As you can see it really helps in the diffusion of light

Other thoughts
A creative person might be able to customize this further by leaving one side clear and etching (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qc6p879QA) their name or logo on the other side of the inserts. Just sand the top and sides as you would in any other case. This could probably give some pretty cool effects.
(http://i.imgur.com/dwwr9NPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/dwwr9NP)

Oh, and want to know what kind of complicated setup I used for making these pictures?  ;)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/9ggahyTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/9ggahyT)
(http://i.imgur.com/zA78MgWh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zA78MgW)

All you need is some good light, a camera that has the possibility to manually focus and a small table tripod. I am using a Trektech T'Pod (http://www.trek-tech.com/products/tripods.html) because I once bought it for cheap and it is sturdy and stable enough to easily adjust or disassemble for a completely different angle. Some creative angling with a $3 tripod from e-Bay can work as well.

Most of these pictures were taken at exposure times of 1.6 to 5 seconds so a tripod is necessary. Just put it on 2-second self-timer mode and click away.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: keyit on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:57:11
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Out of curiosity How are you guys affixing the acrylics to the case?
I have a couple of pairs so I'm looking for a semi permanent solution. (Going to try sanding a pair to get that diffused look)
Well, you are in luck since I decided to make a simple guide using my Orion.

Ingredients:
- Chef's hat
- A flat surface
- A thin clear double sided tape (I used Scotch 3M photo & document tape (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/au/en005/office/office/node_GSDST0F6L0gs/root_D58K9TX3VWgv/vroot_G3SJG25V2Hge/bgel_5VDGDXS87Tbl/gvel_WMK00LBHNRgl/theme_au_office_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html))
- 400 Grit sandpaper (I prefer the waterproof version for less dust and a smoother finish)
- Painters tape (to hold everything in place
- Water & paper towel (for cleaning in between sanding and/or to put on the sandpaper)

#1
Attach everything to the surface you will be working on.
(http://i.imgur.com/3mGowjXh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/3mGowjX)

The piece in the middle is the sandpaper.

#2
Prepare your acrylic pieces
(http://i.imgur.com/lGKAwROh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lGKAwRO)

Clean them first and remove the protective tape on the sides.

#3
Start sanding
(http://i.imgur.com/Xvbanlzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Xvbanlz)

Sand using a light pressure and preferably using a circular motion. You will notice that the larger area will take the most time because it takes a while to completely flatten it.
If you are using a lower/rougher grit (let's say all you can get is grit 100) end by making a side by side movement to align the scratches in the material. You won't notice them when they are mounted but we want some quality on these high end keyboards don't we?

(http://i.imgur.com/e4OXn4wh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e4OXn4w)

Keep going

(http://i.imgur.com/BQ2Uaxch.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BQ2Uaxc)

Sides as well

(http://i.imgur.com/rCZqnkjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/rCZqnkj)

Things are getting messy with the water but it actually aids in achieving a smooth finish

#4
Clean up.

Just make sure you wash your sanded pieces under some running water to get rid of all the dust you will have created. Maybe use a bit of dish soap to get rid of any grease so it attaches properly

#5
Stick it in

(http://i.imgur.com/NNmdHuPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/NNmdHuP)

Clean the underside and remove those greasy fingerprints

(http://i.imgur.com/RCkX9Bzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RCkX9Bz)

Cut the double sided tape to size and stick it on (This is actually the most annoying part)

(http://i.imgur.com/je4UamIh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/je4UamI)

Remove the protective sheet

(http://i.imgur.com/EvOadsbh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/EvOadsb)

Stick on the acrylic pieces. Angle them outwards to line them up then fold inwards

(http://i.imgur.com/5NTP0nNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/5NTP0nN)

Voil

End results
(http://i.imgur.com/J6dF04qh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/J6dF04q)


No inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/8AJXKTCh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8AJXKTC)

Like an alien spacecraft, all you can see is the two lights

Clear inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)

Not bad. The edges of the acrylic have a nice glow but except for that they might as well not be here

Frosted inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)

There we go! As you can see it really helps in the diffusion of light

Other thoughts
A creative person might be able to customize this further by leaving one side clear and etching (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qc6p879QA) their name or logo on the other side of the inserts. Just sand the top and sides as you would in any other case. This could probably give some pretty cool effects.
(http://i.imgur.com/dwwr9NPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/dwwr9NP)


Oh, and want to know what kind of complicated setup I used for making these pictures?  ;)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/9ggahyTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/9ggahyT)

(http://i.imgur.com/zA78MgWh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zA78MgW)


All you need is some good light, a camera that has the possibility to manually focus and a small table tripod. I am using a Trektech T'Pod (http://www.trek-tech.com/products/tripods.html) because I once bought it for cheap and it is sturdy and stable enough to easily adjust or disassemble for a completely different angle. Some creative angling with a $3 tripod from e-Bay can work as well.

Most of these pictures were taken at exposure times of 1.6 to 5 seconds so a tripod is necessary. Just put it on 2-second self-timer mode and click away.

awesome write up JaccoW~!

the frost looks beauttttt
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: digi on Tue, 02 December 2014, 18:12:05
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Out of curiosity How are you guys affixing the acrylics to the case?
I have a couple of pairs so I'm looking for a semi permanent solution. (Going to try sanding a pair to get that diffused look)
Well, you are in luck since I decided to make a simple guide using my Orion.

Ingredients:
- Chef's hat
- A flat surface
- A thin clear double sided tape (I used Scotch 3M photo & document tape (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/au/en005/office/office/node_GSDST0F6L0gs/root_D58K9TX3VWgv/vroot_G3SJG25V2Hge/bgel_5VDGDXS87Tbl/gvel_WMK00LBHNRgl/theme_au_office_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html))
- 400 Grit sandpaper (I prefer the waterproof version for less dust and a smoother finish)
- Painters tape (to hold everything in place
- Water & paper towel (for cleaning in between sanding and/or to put on the sandpaper)

#1
Attach everything to the surface you will be working on.
(http://i.imgur.com/3mGowjXh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/3mGowjX)

The piece in the middle is the sandpaper.

#2
Prepare your acrylic pieces
(http://i.imgur.com/lGKAwROh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lGKAwRO)

Clean them first and remove the protective tape on the sides.

#3
Start sanding
(http://i.imgur.com/Xvbanlzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Xvbanlz)

Sand using a light pressure and preferably using a circular motion. You will notice that the larger area will take the most time because it takes a while to completely flatten it.
If you are using a lower/rougher grit (let's say all you can get is grit 100) end by making a side by side movement to align the scratches in the material. You won't notice them when they are mounted but we want some quality on these high end keyboards don't we?

(http://i.imgur.com/e4OXn4wh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e4OXn4w)

Keep going

(http://i.imgur.com/BQ2Uaxch.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BQ2Uaxc)

Sides as well

(http://i.imgur.com/rCZqnkjh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/rCZqnkj)

Things are getting messy with the water but it actually aids in achieving a smooth finish

#4
Clean up.

Just make sure you wash your sanded pieces under some running water to get rid of all the dust you will have created. Maybe use a bit of dish soap to get rid of any grease so it attaches properly

#5
Stick it in

(http://i.imgur.com/NNmdHuPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/NNmdHuP)

Clean the underside and remove those greasy fingerprints

(http://i.imgur.com/RCkX9Bzh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/RCkX9Bz)

Cut the double sided tape to size and stick it on (This is actually the most annoying part)

(http://i.imgur.com/je4UamIh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/je4UamI)

Remove the protective sheet

(http://i.imgur.com/EvOadsbh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/EvOadsb)

Stick on the acrylic pieces. Angle them outwards to line them up then fold inwards

(http://i.imgur.com/5NTP0nNh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/5NTP0nN)

Voil�

End results
(http://i.imgur.com/J6dF04qh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/J6dF04q)


No inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/8AJXKTCh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8AJXKTC)

Like an alien spacecraft, all you can see is the two lights

Clear inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)

Not bad. The edges of the acrylic have a nice glow but except for that they might as well not be here

Frosted inserts
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)

There we go! As you can see it really helps in the diffusion of light

Other thoughts
A creative person might be able to customize this further by leaving one side clear and etching (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qc6p879QA) their name or logo on the other side of the inserts. Just sand the top and sides as you would in any other case. This could probably give some pretty cool effects.
(http://i.imgur.com/dwwr9NPh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/dwwr9NP)


Oh, and want to know what kind of complicated setup I used for making these pictures?  ;)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/9ggahyTh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/9ggahyT)

(http://i.imgur.com/zA78MgWh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zA78MgW)


All you need is some good light, a camera that has the possibility to manually focus and a small table tripod. I am using a Trektech T'Pod (http://www.trek-tech.com/products/tripods.html) because I once bought it for cheap and it is sturdy and stable enough to easily adjust or disassemble for a completely different angle. Some creative angling with a $3 tripod from e-Bay can work as well.

Most of these pictures were taken at exposure times of 1.6 to 5 seconds so a tripod is necessary. Just put it on 2-second self-timer mode and click away.

Dope guide Jaccow! Love the chef's hat part! =) thank you
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 03 December 2014, 17:32:02
Does anyone know if there was ever any discussion about moving the numpad area over to the left on these boards, or any other Korean custom? I mean an alternate PCB.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 03 December 2014, 18:33:22
Does anyone know if there was ever any discussion about moving the numpad area over to the left on these boards, or any other Korean custom? I mean an alternate PCB.

I think the Chinese Red Scarf II 77 might be able to do this.

You'll have to dig through TaoBao for this PCB though but I think I saw somewhere that you can detach the right side numpad and solder/join it to the left side of the PCB (which would imply there are connection points on the left side of the PCB).

My memory COULD be failing me at the moment but it's work a look IMO.

Edit:
Here you go:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57424.0
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.33.pKF798&id=38832140416&ns=1&abbucket=13#detail
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 03 December 2014, 18:51:29
Thanks! Seems that there were a few interested in that idea and asked qtan to get some. Not sure what happened next but the thread fizzled out. Maybe they are enjoying their flipped boards in secret.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 03 December 2014, 19:06:16
Thanks! Seems that there were a few interested in that idea and asked qtan to get some. Not sure what happened next but the thread fizzled out. Maybe they are enjoying their flipped boards in secret.
You could always find a TaoBao agent/forwarding service and order one for yourself =]
Only problem is, if you swap the numpad to the left, you'll most likely be limited to acrylic cases (you would probably have to design and laser cut your own).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Sun, 21 December 2014, 11:07:11
Super Frustrated - When i Save in the 02D keymapper it gives me : Run-time Error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument

I've changed the locale to Korea , I've installed flip and the keyboard is noticable when it goes into DFU mode. However i cannot save the hex file for me to flash...

Can anybody help me please :(

I have Java as well. can anybody help ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quaxar on Sun, 21 December 2014, 11:21:19
You need to make a dummy hex file in the o2d folder for it to save, so just do new text file, rename it lightsaver.hex and it will let you save.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:55:57
Thanks! Seems that there were a few interested in that idea and asked qtan to get some. Not sure what happened next but the thread fizzled out. Maybe they are enjoying their flipped boards in secret.

Kaliet can do that in his 22mini-XTD (i've asked him)
http://22kbd.com/147
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Karura on Mon, 22 December 2014, 00:21:43
Random question, does anyone know if there were any differences between the V1 and V2 cases?

I would be interested in a black one. Post pictures if you can!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: witbliz on Mon, 22 December 2014, 08:55:09
You need to make a dummy hex file in the o2d folder for it to save, so just do new text file, rename it lightsaver.hex and it will let you save.

Hi quaxar - Even with the instructions ... I Still cant with it being in a folder and having a dummy hex file.. I don't know why ...

(http://s1.postimg.org/62l8gbocb/Capture.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/62l8gbocb/)

Is there anybody able to help me ?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 22 December 2014, 14:02:00
Random question, does anyone know if there were any differences between the V1 and V2 cases?

I would be interested in a black one. Post pictures if you can!

The V2 case has ledges on the sides while the V1 is flat.

This is the V1 https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/12805036093_bcf54ed34b.jpg

and this is the V2 http://cfile21.uf.tistory.com/image/271D2C3A53D8EBB52797FC
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 22 December 2014, 15:05:56
You need to make a dummy hex file in the o2d folder for it to save, so just do new text file, rename it lightsaver.hex and it will let you save.

Hi quaxar - Even with the instructions ... I Still cant with it being in a folder and having a dummy hex file.. I don't know why ...

(http://s1.postimg.org/62l8gbocb/Capture.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/62l8gbocb/)

Is there anybody able to help me ?

I wish I could help you but I have no idea. I thought I'd reply to let you know your cries aren't going unheard, just unanswered.

Random question, does anyone know if there were any differences between the V1 and V2 cases?

I would be interested in a black one. Post pictures if you can!

The V2 case has ledges on the sides while the V1 is flat.

This is the V1 https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/12805036093_bcf54ed34b.jpg

and this is the V2 http://cfile21.uf.tistory.com/image/271D2C3A53D8EBB52797FC

Selling my black V2 in classifieds.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.msg1170939#msg1170939
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pieminister on Thu, 25 December 2014, 17:20:47
I'd love another run of these boards
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 25 December 2014, 18:06:47
I'd love another run of these boards
Look for spring time. We already discussed opening up another interest check. We need 30 people minimum.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 27 December 2014, 16:23:38
yup was already discussed that we will start GB 3-4 months after new year in order to give  all wallets to recouperate from the holidays pwnage.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:40:58
UPDATE: I AM LOOKING FOR ANOTHER LSv2 PCB ONLY. PLEASE HELP
ALSO I WILL START THE NEXT INTEREST CHECK AFTER VALENTINES DAY.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Karura on Mon, 26 January 2015, 19:37:39
Great to hear Taylor...

Just chiming in that I am super interested in this GB, for a full LS!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pieminister on Tue, 27 January 2015, 16:37:19
Awesome, that's great news.

Hey I have a bit of a silly question.  Is it possible to arrange the lightsaver in the ISO layout? So far I have only seen it in ANSI. I use ISO and I would be ready to take the plunge for ANSI if ISO is impossible. In fact I might buy one of the ANSI PBT round 4 sets by Ivan that are about to close, in anticipation of using a future lightsaver. If iso is possible though... I would probably stick to it for the sake of the other family members using the keyboard.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dimmu on Tue, 27 January 2015, 16:40:52
i'm not sure if this has been answered yet among the 37 pages of comments but would it be possible to place the numpad on the left?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 27 January 2015, 20:01:49
i'm not sure if this has been answered yet among the 37 pages of comments but would it be possible to place the numpad on the left?

No it is not. The Redscarf3 has solder points to place the numpad on the left.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dimmu on Tue, 27 January 2015, 20:43:20
i'm not sure if this has been answered yet among the 37 pages of comments but would it be possible to place the numpad on the left?

No it is not. The Redscarf3 has solder points to place the numpad on the left.

thanks for the info.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blackkat on Wed, 04 February 2015, 08:49:29
Does anybody have some spare Duck Blockers that they're willing to part with?  I'm looking for 5 of either the silver or black, or a combination of silver and black.  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 04 February 2015, 08:55:05
You can contact ellton. I think he can help you get it from kbd4u shop.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blackkat on Wed, 04 February 2015, 09:02:18
You can contact ellton. I think he can help you get it from kbd4u shop.

Thanks,
   I but I don't want to bug him again as I think I've already asked too much from him as is  :-[

   Thought I'd ask around for spares first before going to elton with my tail between my legs.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 04 February 2015, 09:09:36
Don't worry. I think he still help you if he can  :cool:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kacase on Sun, 08 February 2015, 06:31:05
i would totally be in for the lightsaver v2  :D

hoping that the next group buy will happen :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:45:19
i would totally be in for the lightsaver v2  :D

hoping that the next group buy will happen :)
Interest check will be started by taylordcraig after valentine's day.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 09 February 2015, 12:08:20
Awesome, that's great news.

Hey I have a bit of a silly question.  Is it possible to arrange the lightsaver in the ISO layout? So far I have only seen it in ANSI. I use ISO and I would be ready to take the plunge for ANSI if ISO is impossible. In fact I might buy one of the ANSI PBT round 4 sets by Ivan that are about to close, in anticipation of using a future lightsaver. If iso is possible though... I would probably stick to it for the sake of the other family members using the keyboard.

I don't think lightsaver can do ISO, RedScarf3 is the same layout but can do iso.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Mon, 09 February 2015, 22:22:02
any chance for the lightsaber plates to have the notches for easier removal of switch tops?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 17:38:20
Does anybody have some spare Duck Blockers that they're willing to part with?  I'm looking for 5 of either the silver or black, or a combination of silver and black.  ;D

Actually I have 4 of each colour that I never used..


any chance for the lightsaber plates to have the notches for easier removal of switch tops?

I'll ask
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: blackkat on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:49:43
Does anybody have some spare Duck Blockers that they're willing to part with?  I'm looking for 5 of either the silver or black, or a combination of silver and black.  ;D

Actually I have 4 of each colour that I never used..


I will take them of of your hands if you're willing to sell them  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: bianco on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:35:50
any chance for the lightsaber plates to have the notches for easier removal of switch tops?

I'll ask

thanks Elton
crossing my fingers!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pieminister on Sat, 21 February 2015, 04:58:17
ALSO I WILL START THE NEXT INTEREST CHECK AFTER VALENTINES DAY.

I am so excited.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Karura on Sat, 21 February 2015, 05:16:10
any chance for the lightsaber plates to have the notches for easier removal of switch tops?

I also second this. Lots of new custom boards like the TX1800 can have notched plates, it would be awesome if the LS had it as well.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Shanghaied on Sat, 21 February 2015, 15:57:42
Strange enough, I'm just interested in the case. So is there anyone who's just after the PCB willing to split a kit with me? Or is it possible at all to just buy a case?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:16:38
Strange enough, I'm just interested in the case. So is there anyone who's just after the PCB willing to split a kit with me? Or is it possible at all to just buy a case?

Yeah, taylordcraig is, he posted just a few posts up in this thread
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:16:59
By the way, is the Lightsaver for sale somewhere? I kinda want one.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:42:33
By the way, is the Lightsaver for sale somewhere? I kinda want one.
Please read a few pages back. We will be starting an interest check for another round soon.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 18:44:17
Please read a few pages back. We will be starting an interest check for another round soon.

Consider me interested.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Prankk on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:17:36
Forgive my ignorance. What would i need to assemble one of these, tools and processes involved.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 01 March 2015, 23:05:32
Forgive my ignorance. What would i need to assemble one of these, tools and processes involved.
you'd need a soldering iron.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Pieminister on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:43:23
I think the groupbuy forum is probably the most popular one, so I just want to mention that over in the Interest Check Forum an official thread has gone up for another round of these.

If you are interested head over to:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69409.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dododollars on Mon, 23 March 2015, 20:46:10
I am totally new for this forum. What should i do if i want do but the lightsaver v2?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Shanghaied on Mon, 23 March 2015, 20:49:03
I am totally new for this forum. What should i do if i want do but the lightsaver v2?

There's a interest check for a new group buy, the link is in the post above yours.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: sakai4eva on Sat, 11 April 2015, 01:05:40
Hey guys is there an alternate way of loading keymaps into this thing?

02D's keymapper is sorely lacking in media function keys.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Sun, 09 August 2015, 08:31:55
Can't believe I missed IC and GB for this board, really want one! Meh.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:25:30
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!

This is great advice, I have all this working now on my Lightsaver. I am having problems with the arrow keys though. The 02D software shows the arrow cluster as "?", and I don't think it's mapping the right codes to the keys. Not sure what I am doing :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: filphil on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:50:02
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!

This is great advice, I have all this working now on my Lightsaver. I am having problems with the arrow keys though. The 02D software shows the arrow cluster as "?", and I don't think it's mapping the right codes to the keys. Not sure what I am doing :(

Change your region on the pc to korea then restart and it should fix that.

I've had three lightsavers go through me and each time I've had to do that to reprogram the arrow keys. 

Edit:

For clarification
(http://i.imgur.com/ZN1QdAL.png)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:21:55
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!

This is great advice, I have all this working now on my Lightsaver. I am having problems with the arrow keys though. The 02D software shows the arrow cluster as "?", and I don't think it's mapping the right codes to the keys. Not sure what I am doing :(

Change your region on the pc to korea then restart and it should fix that.

I've had three lightsavers go through me and each time I've had to do that to reprogram the arrow keys. 

Edit:

For clarification
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZN1QdAL.png)


Thank you...

the place I eventually needed to set this was in the System Locale (Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Administrative tab -> Language for non-Unicode Programs -> Change system locale). It all works now...


Here's some pictures of my board so I can stay on topic:

(http://i.imgur.com/vNtGj3P.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vxbdtmc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yipecSS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CDqZQAa.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:24:56
More
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!

This is great advice, I have all this working now on my Lightsaver. I am having problems with the arrow keys though. The 02D software shows the arrow cluster as "?", and I don't think it's mapping the right codes to the keys. Not sure what I am doing :(

Change your region on the pc to korea then restart and it should fix that.

I've had three lightsavers go through me and each time I've had to do that to reprogram the arrow keys. 

Edit:

For clarification
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZN1QdAL.png)



Thank you...

the place I eventually needed to set this was in the System Locale (Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Administrative tab -> Language for non-Unicode Programs -> Change system locale). It all works now...


Here's some pictures of my board so I can stay on topic:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vNtGj3P.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vxbdtmc.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yipecSS.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CDqZQAa.jpg)


Very nice! Glad to see you finally got it working. I'm very jealous, can't wait to see the board with some caps on it. :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:25:12
I'm trying my hand at programming my Orion at the moment... but I am failing hard. And since the Lightsaver uses the same software I thought I'd ask here.

Using the O2D keymapper (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program) I figured out where the flip key is but I have been unable to do any programming. Seriously no idea how.
I believe TrueCustom was working on a proper translation?

basic steps when i did it on my eagle / viper:

1. make your layout in 02D and save a hex file (windows region needs to be set to Korean to program arrows and some led functions)
2. hold down the flip or bootloader key while you plug in your keyboard (keys will not function if correctly in bootloader mode)
3. go into device manager and find your keyboard (will have an exclamation mark) and update the driver. (the driver should be in your one of your flip or other avr folders. if there's no devices that need drivers you might already have it installed but make sure you look around)
4. open flip, File - Load HEX File (load the one you created)
5. Select Target Device (ATmega32u4), Select a Communication Medium (usb) *if it can't find the kb, you didn't do step 3 correctly*
6. make sure everything is checked in the Operations Flow and click Run (if flip gets stuck after Blank Check and doesn't program, you might need to reload the hex file, this part is clumsy. play order until it works)
7. after programming is successful, make sure the Reset box in the bottom right is checked and hit Start Application to reboot your kb

everything should be good to go after that.

good luck!

This is great advice, I have all this working now on my Lightsaver. I am having problems with the arrow keys though. The 02D software shows the arrow cluster as "?", and I don't think it's mapping the right codes to the keys. Not sure what I am doing :(

Change your region on the pc to korea then restart and it should fix that.

I've had three lightsavers go through me and each time I've had to do that to reprogram the arrow keys. 

Edit:

For clarification
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZN1QdAL.png)


Thank you...

the place I eventually needed to set this was in the System Locale (Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Administrative tab -> Language for non-Unicode Programs -> Change system locale). It all works now...


Here's some pictures of my board so I can stay on topic:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vNtGj3P.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vxbdtmc.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yipecSS.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CDqZQAa.jpg)


gross layout but grats
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:50:22
...

gross layout but grats

Huh? you don't like the layout? OMG, I love it, it will look like this when I am finished with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/14952230998/

Except I will have the Miami Nights GMK set on it, and then eventually SKIDATA!!!

Edit: Thank you to both Sifo and Steezus. Also, thanks to sethk for the soldering.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Rodgaroon on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:56:15
...

gross layout but grats

Huh? you don't like the layout? OMG, I love it, it will look like this when I am finished with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/14952230998/

Except I will have the Miami Nights GMK set on it, and then eventually SKIDATA!!!

Edit: Thank you to both Sifo and Steezus. Also, thanks to sethk for the soldering.

I'm not a big fan on the 7x space bar, but really sexy board.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:56:59
sethk delivered??? grats...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:01:37
sethk delivered??? grats...

Yea it took a while, and he wasn't very communicative at times, but he got it done in the end. Everything seems to be fine.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 06 January 2016, 19:49:30
I'm psyched for round 3. I've had my eye on this board for quite a while just didn't know what it was. Perfect setup for my work keyboard.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Sun, 10 January 2016, 12:35:46
Is there anyone in the Atlanta area that has a LSV2 with it working?

For the life of me, I cannot get FLIP to work and get the mapping onto my keyboard. If we could meet somewhere in ATL, and you flash my keyboard, I will owe you a meal and sincere gratitude.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 14:35:19
Is there anyone in the Atlanta area that has a LSV2 with it working?

For the life of me, I cannot get FLIP to work and get the mapping onto my keyboard. If we could meet somewhere in ATL, and you flash my keyboard, I will owe you a meal and sincere gratitude.

:( Would love to help out but not in Atlanta. feel free to pm me and I could try to help out though!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: HannahPeach on Sun, 10 January 2016, 15:24:00
Is there anyone in the Atlanta area that has a LSV2 with it working?

For the life of me, I cannot get FLIP to work and get the mapping onto my keyboard. If we could meet somewhere in ATL, and you flash my keyboard, I will owe you a meal and sincere gratitude.


If you have not found anyone yet, I might be able to just help you via skype.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:47:26
Well one issue I have, is the arrow keys when using the mapping program:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

All show up as "?" Instead of "Up", "Left", etc.

http://i.imgur.com/8GuNqDa.png
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:50:03
Well one issue I have, is the arrow keys when using the mapping program:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

All show up as "?" Instead of "Up", "Left", etc.

http://i.imgur.com/UXfX8T1.png

localize your PC to Korea (not the language the localization)

You can change it back after setting the arrows.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:50:32
Well one issue I have, is the arrow keys when using the mapping program:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

All show up as "?" Instead of "Up", "Left", etc.

http://i.imgur.com/UXfX8T1.png

I had this problem, which Sifo helped with. Change your system locale to Korean,  this fixes the problem.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: trizkut on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:50:45
Well one issue I have, is the arrow keys when using the mapping program:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/84

All show up as "?" Instead of "Up", "Left", etc.

http://i.imgur.com/8GuNqDa.png


https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=post;quote=1530731;topic=61227.1000;last_msg=1996203
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:10:08
Great, that question is resolved. Another question on the keymapper:

What do "T/L",  "C/M", "MFN", Ly CH, Hot Key, and Key Lock mean?

Is there documentation on this anywhere? I searched and did not find it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:13:57
Great, that question is resolved. Another question on the keymapper:

What do "T/L",  "C/M", "MFN", Ly CH, Hot Key, and Key Lock mean?

Is there documentation on this anywhere? I searched and did not find it.

Check the post your Lightsaver thread in media, photoelectric did some documentation on it
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:23:23
I remember that I have to hold down a key on the keyboard while plugging it in, but I can't find anymore what specific key. Which one is it?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: trizkut on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:27:20
I remember that I have to hold down a key on the keyboard while plugging it in, but I can't find anymore what specific key. Which one is it?

(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/original/2167403E52EE4A541051FB)
(above backspace)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:27:23
I remember that I have to hold down a key on the keyboard while plugging it in, but I can't find anymore what specific key. Which one is it?

http://m1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R750x0/?fname=http%3A%2F%2Fcfile8.uf.tistory.com%2Fimage%2F227E9344531CEAFE16C376
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:32:52
If anyone has a Lightsaver pcb for sale pls lemme know +_+
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:01:59
It looks like I may be getting my hands on a LSv2 kit.  :D

What is the difference between the old and new plates?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:03:18
old one is more universal standard layout

new plate is 1800 layout
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:06:20
It looks like I may be getting my hands on a LSv2 kit.  :D

What is the difference between the old and new plates?

Dude,  I love mine!!!  :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:08:40
old one is more universal standard layout

new plate is 1800 layout

Thank you very much, I would be getting both plates but I think I'll opt for the 1800 layout since that is what I had on my RS96.

It looks like I may be getting my hands on a LSv2 kit.  :D

What is the difference between the old and new plates?

Dude,  I love mine!!!  :)

That's very good to hear. :D

This was my first dream board but I gave up hope on finding one but it now seems I finally get to own one. ;)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:12:08
old one is more universal standard layout

new plate is 1800 layout

Thank you very much, I would be getting both plates but I think I'll opt for the 1800 layout since that is what I had on my RS96.

It looks like I may be getting my hands on a LSv2 kit.  :D

What is the difference between the old and new plates?

Dude,  I love mine!!!  :)

That's very good to hear. :D

This was my first dream board but I gave up hope on finding one but it now seems I finally get to own one. ;)

Be prepared, if you have the alu bottom,  the whole thing is heavy as he'll,  which I love. Solid!!

Edit: the whole case is steel,  silly me :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:17:36
Be prepared, if you have the alu bottom,  the whole thing is heavy as he'll,  which I love. Solid!!

My body is ready.

I have both the Orion v2 and TGR-Jane which both way a **** ton, I assumed this would be the same. :p

The shop that Duck uses definitely has amazing quality, I'm not sure if he changed since the LSv2 but the anodizing on my Orion is superb. I expect nothing else for the LSv2.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:21:12
Be prepared, if you have the alu bottom,  the whole thing is heavy as he'll,  which I love. Solid!!

My body is ready.

I have both the Orion v2 and TGR-Jane which both way a **** ton, I assumed this would be the same. :p

The shop that Duck uses definitely has amazing quality, I'm not sure if he changed since the LSv2 but the anodizing on my Orion is superb. I expect nothing else for the LSv2.

I get my Orion tonight :)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:25:20
Be prepared, if you have the alu bottom,  the whole thing is heavy as he'll,  which I love. Solid!!

My body is ready.

I have both the Orion v2 and TGR-Jane which both way a **** ton, I assumed this would be the same. :p

The shop that Duck uses definitely has amazing quality, I'm not sure if he changed since the LSv2 but the anodizing on my Orion is superb. I expect nothing else for the LSv2.

I get my Orion tonight :)

Very nice, that's rather fast!

I'm debating on what switches shall go into my LSv2, I currently have a board with Vintage/Old Browns and another with 65g Zealios. The choices are unbearable. :))
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: 64rky on Wed, 13 January 2016, 16:50:25
Be prepared, if you have the alu bottom,  the whole thing is heavy as he'll,  which I love. Solid!!

My body is ready.

I have both the Orion v2 and TGR-Jane which both way a **** ton, I assumed this would be the same. :p

The shop that Duck uses definitely has amazing quality, I'm not sure if he changed since the LSv2 but the anodizing on my Orion is superb. I expect nothing else for the LSv2.

I get my Orion tonight :)

Very nice, that's rather fast!

I'm debating on what switches shall go into my LSv2, I currently have a board with Vintage/Old Browns and another with 65g Zealios. The choices are unbearable. :))

Yea I have that same dilemma. MX clears,  or the heavier zealios. Thing is I have never felt the 65,  67 zealios...  Would love to test them.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Vaun on Thu, 14 January 2016, 13:22:15
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 13:25:17
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.

LSv3 will be the next GB after the Octagon v2 is finished. However that is most likely near the end of the year the the LSv3 GB will start and won't arrive at your doorsteps until 2017.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 14 January 2016, 14:33:08
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.

LSv3 will be the next GB after the Octagon v2 is finished. However that is most likely near the end of the year the the LSv3 GB will start and won't arrive at your doorsteps until 2017.
Thanks for information.Hopefully it will start in summer.It's hard to find someone sell their lightsaver :(
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 14:34:40
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.

LSv3 will be the next GB after the Octagon v2 is finished. However that is most likely near the end of the year the the LSv3 GB will start and won't arrive at your doorsteps until 2017.
Thanks for information.Hopefully it will start in summer.It's hard to find someone sell their lightsaver :(

I agree with you there, the LS was the first custom I ever wanted and it took me 9 months to finally get my hands on one. LSv3 should have some really neat new features though. :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 15 January 2016, 02:29:38
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.

LSv3 will be the next GB after the Octagon v2 is finished. However that is most likely near the end of the year the the LSv3 GB will start and won't arrive at your doorsteps until 2017.

(https://i.imgflip.com/xe8ae.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 15 January 2016, 04:00:31
Thanks for information.Hopefully it will start in summer.It's hard to find someone sell their lightsaver :(

I believe bianco is trying to sell his, not sure if he'll want to do international shipping tho.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:19:00
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:19:40
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

Both of mine are steel as well so I assume so... I don't think I've seen an alu plated lightsaver 2
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:20:28
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

Both of mine are steel as well so I assume so... I don't think I've seen an alu plated lightsaver 2

Thanks for the info, may I ask what switches you ended up putting in your LSv2? :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:23:05
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

Both of mine are steel as well so I assume so... I don't think I've seen an alu plated lightsaver 2

Thanks for the info, may I ask what switches you ended up putting in your LSv2? :thumb:

regular blues :) feels great. not very loud with thick pbt as well but really sparked me love for blues again
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 23 January 2016, 14:25:27
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

Both of mine are steel as well so I assume so... I don't think I've seen an alu plated lightsaver 2

Thanks for the info, may I ask what switches you ended up putting in your LSv2? :thumb:

regular blues :) feels great. not very loud with thick pbt as well but really sparked me love for blues again

Awesome, thank you so much. The reason why I opted for Vintage Blues is because I had them in my RS96 and they felt so much better compared to the new blues in my Pok3r, it may all just be in made but I feel like I caught the vintage bug. I miss my RS96 because of the switches in them but I just never used the board all that much, hopefully I can bring back the memories with the LSv2. :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: limitz on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:15:03
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:27:19
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.

I was thinking of going with some vintage blacks but I'll have two boards already with blacks after I build my latest addition. Still haven't found any good switches for the board yet, I'm still thinking some decent vintage blues would be nice or just settling for the Gateron ones.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:32:25
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.

I was thinking of going with some vintage blacks but I'll have two boards already with blacks after I build my latest addition. Still haven't found any good switches for the board yet, I'm still thinking some decent vintage blues would be nice or just settling for the Gateron ones.
"settling"
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:37:24
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.

I was thinking of going with some vintage blacks but I'll have two boards already with blacks after I build my latest addition. Still haven't found any good switches for the board yet, I'm still thinking some decent vintage blues would be nice or just settling for the Gateron ones.

I wouldn't settle, gl yo
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:42:10
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.

I was thinking of going with some vintage blacks but I'll have two boards already with blacks after I build my latest addition. Still haven't found any good switches for the board yet, I'm still thinking some decent vintage blues would be nice or just settling for the Gateron ones.
"settling"

Was that a poor choice of wording? To settle for the lesser of the two. I r confuzed

More
Sorry to be keeping this thread alive but are all the plates for the LSv2 steel?

Both plate options for me came in steel and now I can't decide as to whether I should use Vintage Blacks for this board or put 62g Vintage Blues like I had originally planned. I hate seeing the kit just sitting there asking to be built.

I used lubed and stickered vintage Blacks, and it works excellently in the keyboard. I presorted my Blacks for "Big Logo" only switches as well for a more uniform look.

I was thinking of going with some vintage blacks but I'll have two boards already with blacks after I build my latest addition. Still haven't found any good switches for the board yet, I'm still thinking some decent vintage blues would be nice or just settling for the Gateron ones.


I wouldn't settle, gl yo

Thanks, I hate leaving an unbuilt board around. The search continues, 62g vintage blues were my favorite for typing.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cmd on Wed, 13 April 2016, 16:52:52
Hi all, recently got my hands on a LSv2. Would anyone mind helping me with the size of the fixing bolts? Want to build this relatively soon!  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 13 April 2016, 17:03:30
Hi all, recently got my hands on a LSv2. Would anyone mind helping me with the size of the fixing bolts? Want to build this relatively soon!  ;D

m2 iirc. I think on the info page m3 but i think its wrong.
edit nvm.

"Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length."
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: cmd on Wed, 13 April 2016, 17:16:26
Hi all, recently got my hands on a LSv2. Would anyone mind helping me with the size of the fixing bolts? Want to build this relatively soon!  ;D

m2 iirc. I think on the info page m3 but i think its wrong.
edit nvm.

"Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length."

If I could give you gold, I would. I may be blind, I just went through every page, swear :-X. Once again, thank you thank you!

----> Lol, it was on another thread. I see what you mean now! Nonetheless, you are the bomb.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 26 November 2016, 06:47:40
Is this layout not a possibility with lightsaver?:

1,5x1x1,5x6x1,5x1,5x1x1x ?  That is 6x spacebar.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: zoomwalt on Sat, 26 November 2016, 14:41:43
Is there any news on when v3 will arrive? Realised Im gonna need like three so need to save some dough.

LSv3 will be the next GB after the Octagon v2 is finished. However that is most likely near the end of the year the the LSv3 GB will start and won't arrive at your doorsteps until 2017.

Show Image
(https://i.imgflip.com/xe8ae.jpg)


If this opens up this year, I would love to get in on it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sat, 26 November 2016, 18:42:48
Fairly certain the next GB is Viper and Eagle after Blackbird is finished since they already are thoroughly into the process in Korea (I believe). If it follows others logic, after Eagle/Viper would be Octagon V2 then Lightsaver V3, though I'm sure this is anything from a certainty. Anyways, the wait is real.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrboovn on Mon, 19 December 2016, 02:15:48
Guys,first renders of LSV 3 on Duck's blog.Cheer  :thumb: :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/r0rT6RH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S0nx55z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7X4eCtk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ivl5yvv.jpg)
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kenshinjeff on Mon, 19 December 2016, 02:22:29
Wow, just wow.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Otesanek on Mon, 19 December 2016, 02:28:18
O.O that looks awesome
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ticktwo on Mon, 19 December 2016, 02:42:49
Guys,first renders of LSV 3 on Duck's blog.Cheer  :thumb: :thumb:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0rT6RH.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/S0nx55z.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7X4eCtk.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ivl5yvv.jpg)


AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: gandroider on Mon, 19 December 2016, 03:17:49
Any estimation on MSRP for the LSV3?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 19 December 2016, 09:36:51
Any estimation on MSRP for the LSV3?

I'd guess around $360, price for Blackbird. + shipping + PP fees
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: KetchyKech on Mon, 19 December 2016, 09:40:19
Guys,first renders of LSV 3 on Duck's blog.Cheer  :thumb: :thumb:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0rT6RH.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/S0nx55z.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7X4eCtk.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ivl5yvv.jpg)


SO in...... ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrboovn on Mon, 19 December 2016, 12:38:35
And ... I guess the day will be for Korean GB.
I was wrong
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ceflame on Mon, 19 December 2016, 13:03:40
And ... I guess the day will be for Korean GB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkfizH0.jpg)


Lol that's the GMK Terminal start date with a Kira96 render.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: mrboovn on Mon, 19 December 2016, 13:05:02
And ... I guess the day will be for Korean GB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WkfizH0.jpg)


Lol that's the GMK Terminal start date with a Kira96 render.
Lol thanks ,saw it on Korean forum and GG translate sucks  :p :p :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: zoomwalt on Tue, 20 December 2016, 00:42:41
I'm in as well - if I can make sure to place an order in time!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: hanoipho on Tue, 20 December 2016, 07:55:07
Guys,first renders of LSV 3 on Duck's blog.Cheer  :thumb: :thumb:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/r0rT6RH.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/S0nx55z.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7X4eCtk.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ivl5yvv.jpg)


 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: KetchyKech on Sun, 29 January 2017, 11:04:06
(http://i.imgur.com/bsniCRi.jpg)
Proto received by duck, get hype

http://duck0113.tistory.com/149
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 29 January 2017, 15:47:16
Proto received by duck, get hype
http://duck0113.tistory.com/149

Oh gawd YISSSSS!!!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yookwh on Sun, 29 January 2017, 18:37:25
Yup, definitely going to try my best to get into this. Do we know the date of the Korean GB, and usually when that translates to when everyone else can jump in?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ticktwo on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:09:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bsniCRi.jpg)

Proto received by duck, get hype

http://duck0113.tistory.com/149
:eek: :eek:

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: jenggo on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:40:51
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bsniCRi.jpg)

Proto received by duck, get hype

http://duck0113.tistory.com/149
:eek: :eek:

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Brruuuusssshhhhh....
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 29 January 2017, 20:22:26
Yup, definitely going to try my best to get into this. Do we know the date of the Korean GB, and usually when that translates to when everyone else can jump in?

Elton said first round of Viper/Eagle V2 boards will ship in early Feb. (30 units) with the next shipment happening a month afterwards (or so). If the next group is 30 units, then there will probably be two more waves of boards after the initial 30 being shipped. The Viper/Eagle GB start a month (little less?) after the Blackbird GB finished. So, 2-4 months? Not tomorrow I'd think, though things can always change.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: zoomwalt on Sun, 29 January 2017, 21:50:02
I'm excited!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 30 January 2017, 02:58:34
I sure hope this buy lasts more than a few hours by surprise like the viper/eagle one did.  :p :rolleyes:
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 20:10:50
Is there any more info on when the lightsaver v3 buy is happening?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 19:58:55
Duck latest post
black sample, GB start soon
http://duck0113.tistory.com/150
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 12 February 2017, 22:13:55
^ Yes Yes Yes
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: airs on Sun, 12 February 2017, 22:25:42
2017 First G.B
soon
Geekhack
This is last design.

Hope that doesn't mean LSV3 is the last board he will be making?!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: yookwh on Sun, 12 February 2017, 22:56:40
I'd think he means LightSaver, not keyboards in general. 3 revisions is plenty (Perhaps) for him to finally find the design.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: clochette on Mon, 13 February 2017, 19:01:35
I'd think he means LightSaver, not keyboards in general. 3 revisions is plenty (Perhaps) for him to finally find the design.

2017 First G.B
soon
Geekhack
This is last design.

Hope that doesn't mean LSV3 is the last board he will be making?!

it probably means this is the finalized design
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:33:59

it probably means this is the finalized design

I agree. Final design. Excited for this GB to start, it will be my first build.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 14 February 2017, 02:08:59
first build... and going with a Duck Kustom? Ballsy.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: maximm on Tue, 14 February 2017, 03:02:39
first build... and going with a Duck Kustom? Ballsy.

Go big or go home!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kacase on Tue, 14 February 2017, 17:13:39
first build... and going with a Duck Kustom? Ballsy.

Go big or go home!

i did it with the orion v2  :D

didnt regrett it!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Tue, 14 February 2017, 18:23:31
Are Duck's group buys usually raffles? Sounds like the viper/eagle was only open for a short window, and I'm wondering what to expect for the LSv3 gb.

This is a board I've been eyeing for awhile, and I'm wondering if I should hold out on getting The Exent and pick this up instead....  :-X
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: -musubi on Tue, 14 February 2017, 18:39:00
Are Duck's group buys usually raffles? Sounds like the viper/eagle was only open for a short window, and I'm wondering what to expect for the LSv3 gb.

This is a board I've been eyeing for awhile, and I'm wondering if I should hold out on getting The Exent and pick this up instead....  :-X

They've been historically FCFS in the past.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 20:59:23
first build... and going with a Duck Kustom? Ballsy.


Curious why you would say that? From what i understand the kit has everything I need except switches and caps. Other than practicing my soldering what would make this more difficult than anything else?

The only riski see is that the investment is rather high if I screw up thepcb, but I have soldered before and have a few switch testers I can practice on.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: hkf on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:22:26
Are Duck's group buys usually raffles? Sounds like the viper/eagle was only open for a short window, and I'm wondering what to expect for the LSv3 gb.

This is a board I've been eyeing for awhile, and I'm wondering if I should hold out on getting The Exent and pick this up instead....  :-X

Octagon v2 was open for 24 hours before it filled.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 15 February 2017, 01:13:01
Are Duck's group buys usually raffles? Sounds like the viper/eagle was only open for a short window, and I'm wondering what to expect for the LSv3 gb.

This is a board I've been eyeing for awhile, and I'm wondering if I should hold out on getting The Exent and pick this up instead....  :-X

The Viper/Eagle buy went like this (and subsequently pissed off a TON of people that were waiting for one of these):
28 November 2016, 22:48:09 -----> Group-buy thread approved and made public. 100 orders to be made available.
29 November 2016, 06:57:51  ----> He closed it down after 140 orders placed. I'm guessing those last 40 orders were deleted.

So yeah... months of anticipation and then it probably lasted about 5hrs in the middle of the night.  :rolleyes:

first build... and going with a Duck Kustom? Ballsy.


Curious why you would say that? From what i understand the kit has everything I need except switches and caps. Other than practicing my soldering what would make this more difficult than anything else?

The only riski see is that the investment is rather high if I screw up thepcb, but I have soldered before and have a few switch testers I can practice on.


The process of building a board is the same no matter what kit you get. I'm not trying to discourage you, i'm just saying that I personally chose to start with cheap and commonly sourced kits then work my way up to the more rare and expensive stuff.

My first board build (http://imgur.com/a/PQW1j) came out pretty well. I was a little lucky, it was a good quality pcb, and i've also done a lot of soldering in the past for other stuff... and I'm meticulous. But i'm way better at it now. In fact i've gone back to this board and made some corrections to the work I did that are mostly just quality and cosmetic. I've seen some really terrible work done on some beautiful boards that are just expensive practice... this piece of **** (http://imgur.com/a/fz6AI) comes to mind that someone destroyed (I cant find his old photos of the 2 PCB soldering disasters that were with it).
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Wed, 15 February 2017, 12:57:11
Thanks -musubi, hkf, and OfTheWild for the info. So based on past groupbuys, it sounds like "soon" could be anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks!
Are they always run from a GH GB page, or is there anywhere else this gets posted?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 15 February 2017, 14:03:53
Thanks -musubi, hkf, and OfTheWild for the info. So based on past groupbuys, it sounds like "soon" could be anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks!
Are they always run from a GH GB page, or is there anywhere else this gets posted?

If this is asking when the GB will start, Viper stuff hasn't even shipped yet and it would be un-Duck-like to start a new GB with the previous not at least being partially complete. So, 2 days to 2 weeks is an optimistic time frame for when the V3 group buy could start. At least, in my opinion.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Wed, 15 February 2017, 14:59:06
Thanks -musubi, hkf, and OfTheWild for the info. So based on past groupbuys, it sounds like "soon" could be anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks!
Are they always run from a GH GB page, or is there anywhere else this gets posted?

If this is asking when the GB will start, Viper stuff hasn't even shipped yet and it would be un-Duck-like to start a new GB with the previous not at least being partially complete. So, 2 days to 2 weeks is an optimistic time frame for when the V3 group buy could start. At least, in my opinion.

I was just going off of the time between the announcements on his website that said "GB Soon" (or something similar) and when the groupbuy was posted here.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 15 February 2017, 15:46:16
I would be surprised if v3 gets posted before June to be honest. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye out.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 15 February 2017, 15:53:45
I would be surprised if v3 gets posted before June to be honest. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye out.
Apparently the Korean GB starts on the 20th.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 February 2017, 16:21:14
Does anybody have a rough estimation of what the price will be? Thanks in advance!  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Wed, 15 February 2017, 17:10:51
Does anybody have a rough estimation of what the price will be? Thanks in advance!  :p

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sEiaiSNtVqJDiLe3ftPfPQ57qSWQvdj0HnzWTwoF1k8/pub?single=true&gid=2&output=html (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sEiaiSNtVqJDiLe3ftPfPQ57qSWQvdj0HnzWTwoF1k8/pub?single=true&gid=2&output=html)

Order status link from OP will show you what people paid last round.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 February 2017, 17:19:09
Does anybody have a rough estimation of what the price will be? Thanks in advance! 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sEiaiSNtVqJDiLe3ftPfPQ57qSWQvdj0HnzWTwoF1k8/pub?single=true&gid=2&output=html (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sEiaiSNtVqJDiLe3ftPfPQ57qSWQvdj0HnzWTwoF1k8/pub?single=true&gid=2&output=html)

Order status link from OP will show you what people paid last round.
I did see the OP but that GB was in August of 2014...
I hope it's about 300$ for the base config again but custom keyboards seem to get more expensive
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Fri, 17 February 2017, 12:22:00
I would be surprised if v3 gets posted before June to be honest. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye out.
Apparently the Korean GB starts on the 20th.

Just curious where you read that? Do Duck's korean gb's run on kbdlab.co.kr?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Fri, 17 February 2017, 12:49:14
I would be surprised if v3 gets posted before June to be honest. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep an eye out.

his blog says "GB soon Geekhack" so I would think that it would be before June since I don't consider June to be soon, but this will be my first duck GB so I have no experience with these things...
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 17 February 2017, 20:11:48
Duck's korean GB is running on 20-27 this month.

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_gb_do&document_srl=4153909 You need an account to see it tho.

Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: dubious on Sat, 18 February 2017, 02:14:10
Thank you!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: testplsignore on Sun, 19 February 2017, 06:24:52
Based on the previous Duck GBs, how long after the Korean one should we expect one on here?

Can't wait!  :p
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: luumii on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:15:51
Seriously cant wait for another 96 key layout keyboard!!
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LDobler on Mon, 20 February 2017, 04:32:55
Does anybody know if the LS3 will be Alps compatible?

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Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: buzzking00 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:48:17
Update on Korean GB.

New post today 2-20-17. Cost is 389,400 Won which is ~340 USD. Deposits required by 2-27. Due to the withdraw limit of 5000000 WON on cards for him (max ~4364 USD), he will only be taking 10-15 orders for cards.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:08:17
Update on Korean GB.

New post today 2-20-17. Cost is 389,400 Won which is ~340 USD. Deposits required by 2-27. Due to the withdraw limit of 5000000 WON on cards for him (max ~4364 USD), he will only be taking 10-15 orders for cards.

Does this mean that the international (US) GB will open soon? The cost is pretty good, IMO
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:59:12
Due to the withdraw limit of 5000000 WON on cards for him (max ~4364 USD), he will only be taking 10-15 orders for cards.

So does that mean he's taking 10-15 orders total for the Korean GB or are there other payment options?
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: buzzking00 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 20:32:09
He is taking more than 15 orders. He is limiting orders using this specific method to 10-15 orders due to the withdraw limit of the seller using this payment method.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 21 February 2017, 00:53:12
Does anybody know if the LS3 will be Alps compatible?

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this +1
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: LightofNite on Tue, 21 February 2017, 04:26:02
Is it finally here? Is there a limited amount of units available? I've been checking everyday. Please don't sell out while I'm sleeping.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: buzzking00 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 13:04:18
Is it finally here? Is there a limited amount of units available? I've been checking everyday. Please don't sell out while I'm sleeping.

Right now the GB is only in Korea
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 13:52:05
Is there some place I should be looking for news on this group buy? I saw his blog but it has no mention of the Korean group buy starting. Seems like there is going to be limited quantities for this buy and I'm afraid I'm going to miss it.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 21 February 2017, 14:06:49
Is there some place I should be looking for news on this group buy? I saw his blog but it has no mention of the Korean group buy starting. Seems like there is going to be limited quantities for this buy and I'm afraid I'm going to miss it.

Patience. Just keep checking this post, the viper/Eagle post, and the GB area in general. I really don't think we are that close to it starting. The first round of Vipers and eagles haven't even shipped yet.
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: ChitownM2 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:08:21
Is there some place I should be looking for news on this group buy? I saw his blog but it has no mention of the Korean group buy starting. Seems like there is going to be limited quantities for this buy and I'm afraid I'm going to miss it.

Patience. Just keep checking this post, the viper/Eagle post, and the GB area in general. I really don't think we are that close to it starting. The first round of Vipers and eagles haven't even shipped yet.

That's what I was expecting to hear, but exactly what I didn't want to hear. Check back here, viper post, his blog, and general GB area is 4 places to check every day (maybe twice a day) for something that may not even go live for a month or two. It is what it is though so I guess I just need to stay on top of it  ;D
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: Azaicorp on Thu, 23 February 2017, 03:18:31
Is there some place I should be looking for news on this group buy? I saw his blog but it has no mention of the Korean group buy starting. Seems like there is going to be limited quantities for this buy and I'm afraid I'm going to miss it.

Patience. Just keep checking this post, the viper/Eagle post, and the GB area in general. I really don't think we are that close to it starting. The first round of Vipers and eagles haven't even shipped yet.

That's what I was expecting to hear, but exactly what I didn't want to hear. Check back here, viper post, his blog, and general GB area is 4 places to check every day (maybe twice a day) for something that may not even go live for a month or two. It is what it is though so I guess I just need to stay on top of it  ;D

There's now an interest check thread for the Lightsaver V3 so it should sufficient to only check that thread now. What's more, elton said that he would announce a time and date in that thread for when the group buy will go live so there shouldn't be any reason to have to be paranoid and check multiple times everyday now :D

Now the only question is how many spots there will be and how fast they'll go since everyone will be aware of when it goes live. Here's the link for the thread:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87810.0
Title: Re: LightSaver V2 Group Buy
Post by: tom.smykowski on Fri, 24 February 2017, 10:07:13
excited!  I have an extra Octagon v2 that i now need to part with to make room for this. Anyone interested? PM me (Silver top and bottom - Reds already on)