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Title: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:01:54

http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=100
Since the weather is too hot, the keys are delayed to the end of this month
It's a new Group buy for the keycaps that printed by imsto
These keycaps are from BSP German.
1.5X Ctrl and Alt
E- E-D-C-B-A height
Two kinds of printing: DESKO & Russian
Sideprinted also dyesub.
102keys, no space bar. (if orders over the world more than 250set,  will  offer gmk 7x space bar for free.)
All fonts are new designed and trying to make it to be in perfect condition.
Price will be raised after the GB.



Price: 135$ not including the shipping cost.
basic price 135$
orders----> 100    -5$

orders----> 200    -10$

orders----> 300    -15$

Deadline: 20 May

Also provice the BSP RGB set for 26$.
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

Shipping method: USPS(or the same like Normal postoffice package with tracking number)
When to ship: arround 10-12 weeks(if no unforeseen issues)


order here: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=90


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Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:20:24
Very interesting, but pretty pricey :(

I don't know whether an incomplete set is worth 150+ $ after shipping...

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: moda38 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:21:51
zhurenhao  :cool:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:23:33
It would be great if that price were for including additional 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar tho :(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: billnye on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:24:49
I'd be in if it included 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 mods.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:25:20
It would be great if that price were for including additional 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar tho :(

Yes indeed!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:25:25
It would be great if that price were for including additional 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar tho :(

BSP doesn't have 1.25x molds, and can't make PBT spacebars :(

Interesting set. Are the extra words/side printing dye-sub on the DESKO layout as well?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:29:14

BSP doesn't have 1.25x molds, and can't make PBT spacebars :(

Interesting set. Are the extra words/side printing dye-sub on the DESKO layout as well?
thanks, it's right  they do not have 1.25  keys...
yes, side print also dyesub


Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:31:12
If only I had a board for that desko set

GLWGB
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:33:34
I don't suppose there's any chance of a 1.75u right shift? If so, I'd have no choice in the matter but to buy the desko set…
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:34:41
It would be great if that price were for including additional 1.25x mods and 6.25x spacebar tho :(

BSP doesn't have 1.25x molds, and can't make PBT spacebars :(

Interesting set. Are the extra words/side printing dye-sub on the DESKO layout as well?
Yeah I knew that, I meant if only we could have them from another OEM to complete the set as much as posible, i guess the problem is the textures are different but still better than GMK solution of Sherry I think
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:40:45
I don't suppose there's any chance of a 1.75u right shift? If so, I'd have no choice in the matter but to buy the desko set…

I doubt that BSP even has that mold.

BSP has a very limiting set of molds, but their sets are the only PBT sets I like. Really unfortunate, considering I don't own a board I can put BSP on. I wish that they would get some more molds.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:48:23
I'm in, for sure. Hopefully we get enough demand so we can have a group buy of matching spacebars from GMK.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: daetsid on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:51:38
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:55:07
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?

Imsto is fronting the money to have BSP print these. It's like the CTRL[ALT] GBs.

I stand corrected. See below or in the OP.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:55:19
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?

Blanks from BSP, printed through IMSTO
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:55:31
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?
Imsto printing, BSP caps

 :'(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:55:50
Maybe Imsto should answer this :p

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: daetsid on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:58:17
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?
Imsto printing, BSP caps

 :'(

$135 ?! you guys should better get direct quotes from BSP  :thumb:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: xauser on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:16:45
What about 1x Window keys?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:20:41
What about 1x Window keys?
I think that is blank keycaps :'(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:26:15
How i can have PBT spacebar????????
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:28:45
How i can have PBT spacebar????????
You can get it from old cherry keyboard haha :D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:30:21
What does new front means?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:30:31
So who is printing this? IMSTO or BSP?
Imsto printing, BSP caps

 :'(

Got super excited this was all BSP original but... now I'm hesitant.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:51:01
I never got a bsp set. I'd like this but, I need a space bar.

Does this include a proper grey stepped and un-stepped caps lock?

I need more info. I'd be more likely to join if there was at least a way to get other mods and the spacebar in another GB.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: pdkl55 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:14:58
waiting more information on this GB...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:43:07
How is it 102 keys?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:48:05
How is it 102 keys?

1.5u mod winkeyless without a spacebar.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:51:48
My wallet  :confused:

I'll probably order one of these no matter what, but it would be really nice to get a spacebar, a non-stepped caps lock/ctrl, etc., considering the huge price
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:57:32
How is it 102 keys?

1.5u mod winkeyless without a spacebar.

Oh so numpad is included just not shown in the pictures.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: pmh1410 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:01:38
How is it 102 keys?

102 is Winkeyless with 1x windows keys but have not spacebar 7x.

@ imsto: i'm currious about error of BSP that keycaps is crooked in last GB of Redline team.

Did BSP fixed this error ???
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 20:20:45
It's possible to get some 7x space bar from gmk too If got enough orders
The 1x win will be printed or be blank, depends the ideas of you.
I think these keys will be the best quality that could be found from market, including the printing and the keys.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 20:27:02
How is it 102 keys?

102 is Winkeyless with 1x windows keys but have not spacebar 7x.

@ imsto: i'm currious about error of BSP that keycaps is crooked in last GB of Redline team.

Did BSP fixed this error ???
What the error is? will try avoid.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: mrdar206 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:01:58
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BSP
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Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:03:51
Doesn't that just have to do with the PBT warping though?  The longer keys such as right shift as noticeably warped too but it doesn't affect operation or feel at all. 
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:11:27
So since imsto is a commercial vendor shouldn't this be in his subforum?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:14:15
Very awesome.. I'll have to learn a little bit more about the deadline first though, as the funds and living situation for me could be changing soon. And I'm immensely interested in  GMK spacebars too.

Awesome alternatives overall compared to the normal 6.25x sets offered by imsto, as well as sherry's offerings.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:37:12
Both look sexy, but that price for something not quite usable as is and without shipping either.

So since imsto is a commercial vendor shouldn't this be in his subforum?

Awaiting response.


The only reason I haven't launched my Typewriter one yet is because I don't want to do it in the SP sub and I'm not sure how I should do it to get enough attention.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:41:10
I'd be in if it included 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 mods.

Same here.


Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:42:28
I'd be in if it included 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 mods.

Same here

Bunch of people have said BSP don't have those molds already.  Maybe imsto can make a patch kit that has the same colors?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:52:51
His PBT color and texture differ from BSP's.  Do these set definitely come with numpad caps?  What layout if so?  And are the keycaps shown representative of the exact legends IMSTO will dye sub or will the legends be ''similar'' but different?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 18 April 2014, 21:58:10
I'd be in if it included 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 mods.

Same here

Bunch of people have said BSP don't have those molds already.  Maybe imsto can make a patch kit that has the same colors?

Ah,  that sucks then  :(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 18 April 2014, 22:43:37
His PBT color and texture differ from BSP's.  Do these set definitely come with numpad caps?  What layout if so?  And are the keycaps shown representative of the exact legends IMSTO will dye sub or will the legends be ''similar'' but different?

Yeah, I realize the texture is different but it shouldn't be too bad if it's just for the 1.25x mods. 
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:36:10
Show Image
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BSP
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Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Thanks, but I still can not see the difference..
Seems they almost the same.

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:37:54
Show Image
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BSP
Show Image
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Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Thanks, but I still can not see the difference..
Seems they almost the same.

stems are crooked
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:38:26
I'd be in if it included 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 mods.

Same here

Bunch of people have said BSP don't have those molds already.  Maybe imsto can make a patch kit that has the same colors?

It's almost impossible to make the exact same color as bsp.
But may try use the rgb set to use as the ctrl and alt.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:45:37
So since imsto is a commercial vendor shouldn't this be in his subforum?
If needed maybe should put it in my subform.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:48:19
Show Image
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BSP
Show Image
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Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Thanks, but I still can not see the difference..
Seems they almost the same.

stems are crooked
Looks it's crooked, will see if mine are ok
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 23:51:43
His PBT color and texture differ from BSP's.  Do these set definitely come with numpad caps?  What layout if so?  And are the keycaps shown representative of the exact legends IMSTO will dye sub or will the legends be ''similar'' but different?
Yes with numpad keys.
All the legend will certainly the same, but will be tiny difference with cherry's.

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:06:16
Will the numpad keys include 1u 0 key cap?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lotus1109 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:12:39
Why are so many people finding it pricey? Compare to sherryton bso 85 keys which costs 135usd…
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tbc on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:15:31
people probably consider BOTH to be pricey.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:20:45
Why are so many people finding it pricey? Compare to sherryton bso 85 keys which costs 135usd…

I consider any set that's not a fully functional set on most keyboards and that costs more than $100 to be pricey. 

I'm just looking at $130 + shipping for this set versus Ivan's $75 + shipping for his BSP set and thinking that the pricing is a bit high and am having a hard time justifying an additional $55 while not getting anything special added or any functionality added.  If it was $130 shipped or $90+ shipping, I'd probably go for it, but not $130+shipping in a GB.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:22:50
These are beautiful, imsto.

Why are so many people finding it pricey? Compare to sherryton bso 85 keys which costs 135usd…

It may also have something to do with the recent boom in the number of cheaper GBs. There's a current interest check on ~$20-$25 Dolch/Graphite/etc (OEM profile). Another is the popular Granite DSA set via SP -- reasonably priced and with plenty of options. There might be a few more GBs people have their money caught up in, so $135 before shipping may be too much to spend on a single keyset when you can get so much more with other GBs.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:24:37
It may also have something to do with the recent boom in the number of cheaper GBs. There's a current interest check on ~$20-$25 Dolch/Graphite/etc (OEM profile). Another is the popular Granite DSA set via SP -- reasonably priced and with plenty of options. There might be a few more GBs people have their money caught up in, so $135 before shipping may be too much to spend on a single keyset when you can get so much more with other GBs.

I would disagree on that since people know the quality difference between BSP and GMK and Tai Hao. Tai Hao is amazing for the money, but nowhere near as nice as BSP and GMK.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:26:57
It may also have something to do with the recent boom in the number of cheaper GBs. There's a current interest check on ~$20-$25 Dolch/Graphite/etc (OEM profile). Another is the popular Granite DSA set via SP -- reasonably priced and with plenty of options. There might be a few more GBs people have their money caught up in, so $135 before shipping may be too much to spend on a single keyset when you can get so much more with other GBs.

I would disagree on that since people know the quality difference between BSP and GMK and Tai Hao. Tai Hao is amazing for the money, but nowhere near as nice as BSP and GMK.

Well, yes. What I said is speaking with quality aside. People don't seem to seem as interested in putting in $135+ in a single, high-quality keyset when inexpensive sets like previous imsto, ivan PBT GBs, and even GMK. These are all usually ~$100.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:53:35
Why are so many people finding it pricey? Compare to sherryton bso 85 keys which costs 135usd…

I consider any set that's not a fully functional set on most keyboards and that costs more than $100 to be pricey. 

I'm just looking at $130 + shipping for this set versus Ivan's $75 + shipping for his BSP set and thinking that the pricing is a bit high and am having a hard time justifying an additional $55 while not getting anything special added or any functionality added.  If it was $130 shipped or $90+ shipping, I'd probably go for it, but not $130+shipping in a GB.

This.

Like I said, $135 is acceptable for a full set that supports both wk and wkl layout, BSP should know there lack of keys is a no-go for many people (like me). Look at Ivan GMK buy, dark grey has price like $130 for many layout support, even HHKB
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 00:59:24
BSP should know there lack of keys is a no-go for many people (like me).
I don't think BSP cares, to be honest. The sales they get from keyboard enthusiasts is only a tiny section of their total sales. They're not going to make new moulds just to suit what we want unless we pay for them.

They can't do spacebars, they can't do 1.25x mods, their right shift is goofed (among other problems), and I don't think any of those things are going to change.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Sat, 19 April 2014, 01:09:53
Yeah that is the problem and I consider their price was pricey :))


Anw, I still hope we can have a complement from another manufacturer, GMK sounds good too
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 19 April 2014, 02:23:52
Show Image
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BSP
Show Image
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Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Is every r4 key like this?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: daetsid on Sat, 19 April 2014, 02:39:27
It's possible to get some 7x space bar from gmk too If got enough orders
The 1x win will be printed or be blank, depends the ideas of you.
I think these keys will be the best quality that could be found from market, including the printing and the keys.

The question is why don't you let BSP print them?? Then we would be sure that we get "cherry" caps :P
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: mrdar206 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:16:35
Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/10257431_10152317582137521_478339314654092143_o.jpg)

BSP
Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t35.0-12/1480902_10202049240606352_1117533913_o.jpg?oh=161e10b6de5e2b1a77c842e179641569&oe=53540C31&__gda__=1398023646_e8379b33f723a72129a17ef28a9e006a)

Cherry original dyesub

This pictures show the error phm1410 talk about. The direction of BSP keycaps are athwart.
Is every r4 key like this?
The picture was taken by Jil. He told me that the error happen to almost the keycaps.
Title: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:19:33
http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/post/91
Pictures of these on an Orion
I'm so tempted :(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:21:27
http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/post/91
Pictures of these on an Orion
I'm so tempted :(
Except those are original deskos
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:25:08

http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/post/91
Pictures of these on an Orion
I'm so tempted :(
Except those are original deskos

Cause of the spacebar and they're from the original board?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:29:04
Cause of the spacebar and they're from the original board?
The regular dyesub set he's using there is an original set, not a BSP remake. So it has a spacebar, different legends on Prt sc/Pause, and it doesn't have a weird right shift.

The desko set he's using is original, so it's printed by BSP and not imsto. It also has those dyesub RGBs..
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 19 April 2014, 03:53:27
mmmm I want to get my hands on real cherry dyesubs
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: YongJK on Sat, 19 April 2014, 04:29:41
mmmm I want to get my hands on real cherry dyesubs
If the price went even more higher because of BSP dyesub, I am not sure if anybody still interested.

This is the best of replica at affordable price.
BSP PBT, IMSTO dye sub.  :thumb:

IMO, there is no point to hunt for  ESA G80-3000HASRO anymore.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Pacifist on Sat, 19 April 2014, 04:33:57
from what Ive heard, its worlds of difference from bsp and OG cherry dyesub
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 04:38:58
If the price went even more higher because of BSP dyesub, I am not sure if anybody still interested.

This is the best of replica at affordable price.
BSP PBT, IMSTO dye sub.  :thumb:

IMO, there is no point to hunt for  ESA G80-3000HASRO anymore.
You're right. These are the best replicas yet. The legends are all perfect.

There are a few advantages to the originals though, methinks.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:06:17
Quote from: Photekq
You're right. These are the best replicas yet. The legends are all perfect.

There are a few advantages to the originals though, methinks.

What are the advantages compared to this set?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:15:10
What are the advantages compared to this set?
Better printing
Spacebar
A right shift that isn't odd
No possible errors, like the one mrdar posted earlier
Scooped F&J (subjective)
Also, since these are replica legends they are bound to be a tiny bit different from the original
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:19:56
What are the advantages compared to this set?
Better printing
Spacebar
A right shift that isn't odd
No possible errors, like the one mrdar posted earlier
Scooped F&J (subjective)
Also, since these are replica legends they are bound to be a tiny bit different from the original

Thanks.  If I can pick your brain for another minute,

- what keyboards did this set come on?
- is the original space bar PBT?
- what specifically do you mean by odd right shift?

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:35:33
Thanks.  If I can pick your brain for another minute,

1. what keyboards did this set come on?
2. is the original space bar PBT?
3. what specifically do you mean by odd right shift?

Thanks for the info.

1. Russian set is a replica of the ESA-3000HASRO. There are other 'original Cherry dyesub' keyboards with cyrillic, such as the 3000SAV, with tiny differences in the legends too.
The Desko set is a replica of this (http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/eth0sz/DeskoKeyboard.jpg) keyboard's keyset. This keyboard has doubleshot/dyesub keycaps. The regular black on beige keycaps are Cherry doubleshots. The ones with subtext are BSP dyesubs, as are the RGBs.

2. The spacebar on all 'original Cherry dyesub' keyboards is PBT. The spacebar on the Desko keyboard is ABS, since is it not a Cherry dyesub keyboard.

3. Here (http://i.imgur.com/NupjPUY.png) is a picture of a mounted Cherry dyesub right shift. Note how it matches up perfectly with the right-edges of the enter key and the control key.
Here (http://i.imgur.com/J5lF5wP.png) is a picture of a BSP right shift. Note how it doesn't match up.. That's because it's shorter.

Side on of original vs BSP (BSP one looks like a banana) : http://i.imgur.com/QlVjiBn.png
Underside of original vs BSP (yes, it's even thinner too!) : http://i.imgur.com/RzzLf5R.png

The BSP right shift is just really weird in a number of ways. The rest of the BSP keys are fine though..

Also, worth noting that BSPs right shift has been like this for some time. The right shift on that Desko keyboard is just the same.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:01:49
will try to get suitable 7x space bar.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:14:09
Will you use abs spacebar? From GMK?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Sat, 19 April 2014, 12:11:57
will try to get suitable 7x space bar.

Nice :D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:59:46
I don't suppose there's any chance of a 1.75u right shift? If so, I'd have no choice in the matter but to buy the desko set…

I doubt that BSP even has that mold.

BSP has a very limiting set of molds, but their sets are the only PBT sets I like. Really unfortunate, considering I don't own a board I can put BSP on. I wish that they would get some more molds.

I'm very curious the difference between GMK, SP, Plum, and BSP PBT plastics. I have 3 of those otw to test out. Any hints?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: acidtrip69 on Sat, 19 April 2014, 21:06:25
Is there a way to get the price a bit lower ?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Sat, 19 April 2014, 23:03:24
will try to get suitable 7x space bar.

If you can get that I'm all in for sure!

Edit:  A tsangan kit would really make it though :)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 19 April 2014, 23:21:43
the last option for 7x is SP, I got some...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 20 April 2014, 00:17:56
IMSTO, what do you think about doing dye sub Cherry logo on 1x Win keys?  Red cherries, black stem + leaf.  (Same logo as for IvanIvanovich's dye sub cream/beige sets with different-colored Cherry R4 1x caps).
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 20 April 2014, 00:22:22
For those who complain or unsatisfied with this gb price, check this out: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 20 April 2014, 00:34:20
For those who complain or unsatisfied with this gb price, check this out: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige

You linked to a reseller selling a BSP set for less than the GB price.  Not sure how that's supposed to convince people the pricing is good.  The pricing on this GB just seems really high given that Ivan has a quote of $75 + shipping for a complete BSP dyesub set.  It tells me this isn't a GB price, but a reduced vendor price with a good deal of a markup over BSP's price.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 20 April 2014, 00:35:18
Don't forget that Sherry's set is lacking a numpad. (Still a lot, but can't directly compare it to Originative's offerings).
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 20 April 2014, 01:03:15
For those who complain or unsatisfied with this gb price, check this out: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige

You linked to a reseller selling a BSP set for less than the GB price.  Not sure how that's supposed to convince people the pricing is good.  The pricing on this GB just seems really high given that Ivan has a quote of $75 + shipping for a complete BSP dyesub set.  It tells me this isn't a GB price, but a reduced vendor price with a good deal of a markup over BSP's price.
Yup, u got the point. Imsto is a vendor so if there's any profit behind it is reasonable thou. Even some of the other GB organizers also earn at least by increasing pirce a little to cover unexpected/possible fee/tax. As photoelectric mentioned, this set offer more keys and considering of more complicated dyesub for russian/desko as well as side fonts. This is really something convincing enough in my opinion.

Regarding spacebar, this gb will probably try to ask gmk if number of orders reach the moq. Else worse case just harvest 7x spacebar from old board, buy from those spacebars that ppl had from Ivan's gb or the worst case as Imsto mentioned, SP one.

Ctrl and Alt rows are A profile for this gb set, which I think Originative's one isnt?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 20 April 2014, 01:08:31
Ctrl and Alt rows are A profile for this gb set, which I think Originative's one isnt?
Originative's BSP sets are A profile
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 01:17:16
I think we shouldn't go to SP spacebar because that isn't Cherry profile while all keys is cherry profile. The best way is go to GMK spacebar  :thumb:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 20 April 2014, 10:30:29
IMSTO, what do you think about doing dye sub Cherry logo on 1x Win keys?  Red cherries, black stem + leaf.  (Same logo as for IvanIvanovich's dye sub cream/beige sets with different-colored Cherry R4 1x caps).
I am not sure about if it will be agreed with the others. but maybe should make an option that could order 2 more 1x for that with the logo on it.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 20 April 2014, 10:33:27


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 20 April 2014, 10:59:17
if orders over the world more than 250set,  will  offer gmk 7x space bar for free.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 19:20:15


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Tony@HK on Sun, 20 April 2014, 22:56:35


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:07:22
IMSTO, what do you think about doing dye sub Cherry logo on 1x Win keys?  Red cherries, black stem + leaf.  (Same logo as for IvanIvanovich's dye sub cream/beige sets with different-colored Cherry R4 1x caps).
I am not sure about if it will be agreed with the others. but maybe should make an option that could order 2 more 1x for that with the logo on it.

Would love 1x win keys with cherry logo (:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:17:49


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)

Sorry, slightly off topic, but that is an unusual keyboard layout.  What is the purpose of the key switch where the green Esc is?

And which keyboard is it?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:20:28


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics
You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:38:04
You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
They're BSP with printing done by imsto. See the dots on F&J
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 00:07:05


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)

Sorry, slightly off topic, but that is an unusual keyboard layout.  What is the purpose of the key switch where the green Esc is?

And which keyboard is it?
That is DK Saver keyboard. Green ESC is Numlock key. I like this layout :)

You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
They're BSP with printing done by imsto. See the dots on F&J

Maybe I think too
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lotus1109 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 03:06:24


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics
You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
He answered it what, it is bsp made blank caps and dye sub done by imsto.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 03:29:43


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics
You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
He answered it what, it is bsp made blank caps and dye sub done by imsto.

OK ok i understood :) That photo is prototype
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Mon, 21 April 2014, 04:10:30
imsto, do you have an estimate for when these will ship? I would like to order but my summer schedule is not set yet  :D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:49:54
How many sets have been ordered?

Also, a GMK spacebar would be great, but is there any realistic way to get a Moogle set made for these? BSP doesn't have the molds, GMK doesn't do PBT as far as I know, Imsto can't match the color, and I don't think SP has any Cherry molds either. If GMK does a doubleshot ABS moogle set, would we be able to match the color? Its hardly ideal, and I am loathe to spend even more money, but this would just be so much more compelling as a complete set.

Edit: or does SP have cherry molds? They did do these: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33562.0
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:13:41
Sp profile is similar to cherry but not the same.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:53:36
Just quick question.
What is difference between the weight based shipping and the flat rate shipping?
Both with tracking service internationally?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: YongJK on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:56:35
How many sets have been ordered?

Also, a GMK spacebar would be great, but is there any realistic way to get a Moogle set made for these? BSP doesn't have the molds, GMK doesn't do PBT as far as I know, Imsto can't match the color, and I don't think SP has any Cherry molds either. If GMK does a doubleshot ABS moogle set, would we be able to match the color? Its hardly ideal, and I am loathe to spend even more money, but this would just be so much more compelling as a complete set.

Edit: or does SP have cherry molds? They did do these: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33562.0
There is no way.
Either you find your own 6.25 space bar and rgby set to complete bottom row.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:39:40
imsto, do you have an estimate for when these will ship? I would like to order but my summer schedule is not set yet  :D

not clear yet. but should be after few weeks when GB closed
deadline 20 May
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:40:23
Just quick question.
What is difference between the weight based shipping and the flat rate shipping?
Both with tracking service internationally?
both got tracking number.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 02:45:37
I found some photos on otd. I think that is belongs to imsto

(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/1910811351_37b168d2_4.JPG)
(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1910811351_3aa2261a_2.JPG)
(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1910811351_1ee4d934_5.JPG)
(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1910811351_db3d8c27_1.JPG)
(http://www.otd.kr/gn/data/file/album/1910811351_c2063c7c_3.JPG)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 24 April 2014, 04:52:27
I found some photos on otd. I think that is belongs to imsto

...

The keycaps was produced by IMSTO, but not the keyboard and keycaps.  :)

*Edit: Typo
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 24 April 2014, 04:53:20


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics

Tony How be friends.  :-*
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: pinyrx on Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:53:26
hmm, I'm wondering if bsp corrected the crooked stems?

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Fri, 25 April 2014, 01:22:09
hmm, I'm wondering if bsp corrected the crooked stems?



I think if that problem was already fixed or solved later, a lot of people especially Korean guys gonna join this GB more and more.
But I wonder whether BSP even notice that problem or not haha
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 25 April 2014, 18:32:13
how does the Russian set look compare to the original one?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 25 April 2014, 19:06:42
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

(http://i.imgur.com/d3LIKYM.png)

Original (photo from eungsam):

(http://i.imgur.com/bfODLbf.png)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:08:38
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/d3LIKYM.png)


Original (photo from eungsam):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bfODLbf.png)


Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:16:07
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/d3LIKYM.png)


Original (photo from eungsam):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bfODLbf.png)


Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher

Well, aged caps and youthful caps, so take that as you will.  The OG caps are much much sharper and cleaner looking in that photo.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:33:48
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/d3LIKYM.png)


Original (photo from eungsam):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bfODLbf.png)


Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher

Well, aged caps and youthful caps, so take that as you will.  The OG caps are much much sharper and cleaner looking in that photo.

That's true

BTW, imsto, will blank keycap also available in this GB?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Mon, 28 April 2014, 10:55:37
added the RGB set
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 17:05:09
added the RGB set
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

What profile? B or A?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:36:04
added the RGB set
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=89

What profile? B or A?

It is A-Profile.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:41:50
ooo that RGB will go nice with an OG set
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:08:24
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:14:56
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
A profile 1.25x modifiers don't exist anywhere.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:31:43
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
A profile 1.25x modifiers don't exist anywhere.

Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:35:21
Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=53

There's no yellow though.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:42:46
Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=53

There's no yellow though.

Are those the original Cherry colors? Seems like the blue is a bit light.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:44:56
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:47:57
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Fri, 02 May 2014, 10:29:41
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
it is BSP keycaps, not the 1.25 rgb that i got.

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:12:47
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
it is BSP keycaps, not the 1.25 rgb that i got.

Interesting, they look like your colors, especially the light blue.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Candyflip on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:16:35
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:22:19
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?
Yep, correct. 1.25 is regular imsto. BSP doesn't do 1.25
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:28:32
Yep, correct. 1.25 is regular imsto. BSP doesn't do 1.25

It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:30:43
It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
I'd rather they fix their right shift mould.. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:17:09
It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
I'd rather they fix their right shift mould.. :rolleyes:

Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:20:49
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
Buy GMK 1.25 RGBs.. They are doubleshot ABS. The only 1.25x thick PBT RGB set is the one that imsto sells.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:22:04
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
Buy GMK 1.25 RGBs.. They are doubleshot ABS. The only 1.25x thick PBT RGB set is the one that imsto sells.

Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:23:04
Yeah I'm guessing IMSTO misunderstood what we were referring to.  The $25 RGB set looks like IMSTO's PBT and is using 1.25x modifiers--not BSP.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:26:02
Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
Originative used to stock them. kbdmod might still have some sets : http://kbdmod.co.kr/product/list.html?cate_no=12

I believe feng? is running a GB for them soon. You could also look for them on the classifieds.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:54:27
Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
Originative used to stock them. kbdmod might still have some sets : http://kbdmod.co.kr/product/list.html?cate_no=12

I believe feng? is running a GB for them soon. You could also look for them on the classifieds.

I think Feng's GB is done taking orders and possibly just paid for production or is about to. Never know though may still have a chance.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:59:43
Ah right.. Well in that case there should be some sets on his ebay store soon.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 02 May 2014, 21:48:31
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.

Maybe the colour of the RGB is not what you expect. But I think if you really need 1.25 PBT modifiers, you should go for Imsto's PBT one.
[attachimg=1]
The roughness, thickness and the construction of Imsto PBT are the best Cherry Profile RGB PBT replica set for winkey, IMO. It is very close to Cherry PBT. So you can mix it with BSP PBT without any problem. Even better, it can be a potential replacement for BSP shift key if you are not satisfied with it.  ;D
[attachimg=2]
* The Imsto shift key is a bit higher because it has Costa clips mounted


Eventually, you can have a full PBT set for winkey keyboard.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Sat, 03 May 2014, 03:02:22
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 03:55:45
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

Yeah sure because keyset is not made by SP  :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Sat, 03 May 2014, 05:43:12
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

sure will be lowering price, but that's the story of a lot of orders, and by "a lot" I mean >400
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 03 May 2014, 09:40:03
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?

yes, right.

So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

sure will be lowering price, but that's the story of a lot of orders, and by "a lot" I mean >400

that's right... I know the gb is realy hard to reach 300, not even 400. just like Ivan's black keys GB.
what I can do is provide a lower price that I can do then make it.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:37:34
ok, to make it lower. here's a GB price

basic price 135$
orders----> 100    -5$

orders----> 200    -10$

orders----> 300    -15$
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:40:22
as to the GB of the plate. I think it is cheap enough, the ammount that will be produced depends on the orders.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:40:32
ok, to make it lower. here's a GB price

basic price 135$
orders----> 100    -5$

orders----> 200    -10$

orders----> 300    -15$

Hey Imsto, should I check out now from my shopping cart, or wait? I'm not sure how the lowering price works. Is there a coupon code?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 03 May 2014, 11:15:57
I will put the numbers of order on the first page. but now, it's far from 100
the same price when orders, when the GB stoped, will refund the extra to every paypal account.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:28:33
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Tue, 06 May 2014, 01:16:08
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Wed, 07 May 2014, 00:35:36
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

By extra printing you mean the Cyrillic? I do think it looks pretty cool, though I'm not Russian, nor do I know any Russian lol
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 07 May 2014, 01:21:09
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

85 keyset of PBT Dyesub by BSP on Originative is 130$...how would it be similar in price with IMSTO one?  :eek:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 07 May 2014, 07:44:18
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

85 keyset of PBT Dyesub by BSP on Originative is 130$...how would it be similar in price with IMSTO one?  :eek:

^ this.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 07 May 2014, 07:58:30
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

85 keyset of PBT Dyesub by BSP on Originative is 130$...how would it be similar in price with IMSTO one?  :eek:

I'm sure there is a fair amount of markup in that price, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:09:55
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

85 keyset of PBT Dyesub by BSP on Originative is 130$...how would it be similar in price with IMSTO one?  :eek:

I'm sure there is a fair amount of markup in that price, but I could be wrong.

Ya...but then considering the shipping fees from BSP to IMSTO, also sideprint and two times dyesub involve with this keysets, I think the price is actually very reasonable.  :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: YongJK on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:29:05
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.

This is on the high side of fair in my opinion.  An original BSP sublimated set would be similar in price.  The advantage imsto gives is the extra printing, if that's your thing.

85 keyset of PBT Dyesub by BSP on Originative is 130$...how would it be similar in price with IMSTO one?  :eek:

I'm sure there is a fair amount of markup in that price, but I could be wrong.
85 Keyset vs 102 Keyset. The price is fair.

If anyone uses current bsp production set and compare it with imsto dye sub, they would say the difference is minimal.

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: YongJK on Wed, 07 May 2014, 11:31:38
Do we have an ETA on when these orders would start shipping out? I'm on the fence with this set...it's a little expensive for what you get, but I can't find anywhere else to get a similar set.
It is not expensive if you ever considered the "risk" by buying from other you-know-who vendor.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: pmh1410 on Wed, 07 May 2014, 17:37:07
I think the price is not expensive but our problem is the crocked of stem. If BSP can fixe it, a hundred order will be push to Imsto.

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 07 May 2014, 17:38:41
I think the price is not expensive but our problem is the crocked of stem. If BSP can fixe it, a hundred order will be push to Imsto.
And right shift
And F/J
And spacebar

but BSP won't fix :'(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:45:32
Wait, could you clarify what this issue is with the stem? I was about to pull the trigger on a pre-order.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:56:16
Some BSP keys have had slightly rotated stems in the past

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/10257431_10152317582137521_478339314654092143_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:02:19
Some BSP keys have had slightly rotated stems in the past

Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/10257431_10152317582137521_478339314654092143_o.jpg)


Which is why OG is always the best
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 21:03:37
Which is why OG is always the best

Yup, plus, it's classy as hell.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 09 May 2014, 15:56:37
Which is why OG is always the best

Yup, plus, it's classy as hell.

Maybe it's deliberate?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Fri, 09 May 2014, 21:43:30
Some BSP keys have had slightly rotated stems in the past

Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/10257431_10152317582137521_478339314654092143_o.jpg)


Which is why OG is always the best
I've seen you mention this several times in a few different threads. Where does one acquire an OG set?

Is this what I'm looking for?:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=0.0.0.0.Vec6jX&id=15028571320
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Fri, 09 May 2014, 21:44:35
edit: double post sorry
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 09 May 2014, 21:53:39
Anoxy, those are doubleshots.

Original dyesubs are incredibly rare and hard to find. For an ANSI one you're looking at $200+ for good condition. For German layout you're looking at $100 for good condition.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Fri, 09 May 2014, 22:19:42
Ah, thanks for the info Photekq. That's a bummer. I've read many people around here say that PBT Doubleshots are better than PBT Dyesubs, or that they prefer them. Or are the ones I linked ABS?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 09 May 2014, 22:20:56
Ah, thanks for the info Photekq. That's a bummer. I've read many people around here say that PBT Doubleshots are better than PBT Dyesubs, or that they prefer them. Or are the ones I linked ABS?
They are original Cherry doubleshots made from ABS. Cherry never did PBT doubleshots. The only real PBT doubleshot sets you can get are by Vortex.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 09 May 2014, 22:34:35
I suppose this question is for Imsto,

You are running a similar Group Buy like Signature Plastics, in which you shall take the money out of Paypal accounts after the 20th of May 2014 and not before that date?

Just want to know before committing myself to this purchase.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: SSIPAK on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:03:49
$135 and no spacebar? it sure looks nice but not for that price haha
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 18 May 2014, 10:00:29
I suppose this question is for Imsto,

You are running a similar Group Buy like Signature Plastics, in which you shall take the money out of Paypal accounts after the 20th of May 2014 and not before that date?

Just want to know before committing myself to this purchase.


I usually take the money out of paypal after the dealine, maybe more later than the deadline, or maybe later than the deadline of next GB.
Bring money to my Chinese account is not free...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 18 May 2014, 10:46:33
$135 and no spacebar? it sure looks nice but not for that price haha
Actually, if you compare the price, this GB from imsto is the cheapest among the BSP GB so far, IMO.
In this GB, imsto has 4 colours dyesub (Black Orange Green and Red) while in the recent GB from RedLine, it only has 1 black colour, same price and also no space bar.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Sun, 18 May 2014, 10:52:03
$135 and no spacebar? it sure looks nice but not for that price haha
Actually, if you compare the price, this GB from imsto is the cheapest among the BSP GB so far, IMO.
In this GB, imsto has 4 colours dyesub (Black Orange Green and Red) while in the recent GB from RedLine, it only has 1 black colour, same price and also no space bar.

Yeah, it really isn't that terrible a deal. I'd probably jump on it if it had a tsangan option.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 May 2014, 10:53:16
Yeah, it really isn't that terrible a deal. I'd probably jump on it if it had a tsangan option.
The set IS tsangan (1.5 mods). It doesn't have a moogle option.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 18 May 2014, 11:02:00
Quote from: tribade link=topic=57244.msg1334068#msg1334068
Yeah, it really isn't that terrible a deal. I'd probably jump on it if it had a tsangan option.

By default, this GB already offered the 1.5 modifiers + 1x winkey (blank) no space bar. We only need to buy the RGB 1.25 from him if we want to run with standard 1.25 keyboard like Filco MJ.

For the 7x space bar, I think we can always order directly from SP via their inventory here 2.5$ / space bar :
http://keycapsdirect.com/inventorypdfs/SpacebarInventory.pdf
Currently, SP has 158 white space bar (WFO)
http://keycapsdirect.com/abscolors.php
[attachimg=1]

For the 6.25x space bar, the resent GMK GB from Ivan could have some left-over so I think we also have a chance to find.

Edit: Photekq is faster than me :(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Sun, 18 May 2014, 15:33:26
Yeah, it really isn't that terrible a deal. I'd probably jump on it if it had a tsangan option.
The set IS tsangan (1.5 mods). It doesn't have a moogle option.

Ah, so I see.  I suppose I should work on my reading comprehension.  Thanks!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Sun, 18 May 2014, 20:21:18
$135 and no spacebar? it sure looks nice but not for that price haha
Actually, if you compare the price, this GB from imsto is the cheapest among the BSP GB so far, IMO.
In this GB, imsto has 4 colours dyesub (Black Orange Green and Red) while in the recent GB from RedLine, it only has 1 black colour, same price and also no space bar.

Maybe I'm just a cheapskate, but I feel like it's pricey for a "groupbuy," but if this was ready to order I'd be more apt to consider it.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: ebacho on Sun, 18 May 2014, 20:44:16
$135 and no spacebar? it sure looks nice but not for that price haha
Actually, if you compare the price, this GB from imsto is the cheapest among the BSP GB so far, IMO.
In this GB, imsto has 4 colours dyesub (Black Orange Green and Red) while in the recent GB from RedLine, it only has 1 black colour, same price and also no space bar.

Maybe I'm just a cheapskate, but I feel like it's pricey for a "groupbuy," but if this was ready to order I'd be more apt to consider it.

I mean, it's not like it's going to get any cheaper.  The Redline GB was the same price, and even the Originative price is pretty much the same.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:01:25
Yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm more apt to spend my money when I know I will get it soon. If I know I have to wait, I'm less likely to make the purchase.

Which is why i just ordered the classic beige and cyrillic sets from Originative  ;D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 18 May 2014, 21:05:30
Yeah, I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm more apt to spend my money when I know I will get it soon. If I know I have to wait, I'm less likely to make the purchase.

Which is why i just ordered the classic beige and cyrillic sets from Originative  ;D
Classic beige? You mean the dye sub set? Nice purchase. I'm tempted to get that Cyrillic set. Need moneys!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Mon, 19 May 2014, 04:36:03
Welp, I bit the bullet on this set.  I hope it's everything I'm hoping for, and that the missing spacebar doesn't end up being too much of an issue.  And also that I receive it before I get my Duck Viper.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Mon, 19 May 2014, 06:05:23
Actually Simple,
If you feel it's expensive just don't buy, nobody push it and If you want and just buy.
As far as I know BSP only manufacture keycaps with silk screen printing(I'm not sure it's correct with English) now.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 19 May 2014, 09:29:02
Actually Simple,
If you feel it's expensive just don't buy, nobody push it and If you want and just buy.
As far as I know BSP only manufacture keycaps with silk screen printing(I'm not sure it's correct with English) now.


Ya, I am also told that BSP had stop doing dyesub now.  :))
They will regret later when this is over  :))
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:10:30
Stop doing dye sub after this buy? Or are these already produced?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 11:16:46

Stop doing dye sub after this buy? Or are these already produced?
Imsto's doing the dyesub, on bsp's caps
They're prob being produced atm
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 15:28:53

Stop doing dye sub after this buy? Or are these already produced?
Imsto's doing the dyesub, on bsp's caps
They're prob being produced atm
Oh I didn't realize he was just buying blanks. Thanks
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: duzeyao on Mon, 19 May 2014, 21:27:43
IMSTO大大威武
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Thu, 22 May 2014, 19:11:55
This set is incomplete, as it comes with 102 keycaps, but which ones are missing? I'm confused @_@

Is it a complete set minus the two 1x windows keys? Does it come with an ABS space bar? 
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 19:13:56
This set is incomplete, as it comes with 102 keycaps, but which ones are missing? I'm confused @_@

Is it a complete set minus the two 1x windows keys? Does it come with an ABS space bar?

Incomplete because there's no space bar, no 1.25x mods for mass-produced keyboards, and no fulltouch caps lock. Imsto said he'd add a GMK space bar if the preorders reached a certain amount (200, iirc), but frankly that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:07:53
This set is incomplete, as it comes with 102 keycaps, but which ones are missing? I'm confused @_@

Is it a complete set minus the two 1x windows keys? Does it come with an ABS space bar?

It depends on the context that you are talking about.  If you mean the Cherry classic keyboard family like ANSI G80-1000, G80-3000, this set is a nearly complete set except the space bar. According to the sample, it has stepped cap locks, side-printing for PrintScreen, Pause/Break ...  Plus the two winkey 1x in case you have a KMAC or custom keyboard that has 1x winkey supported.

These sets from imsto are close to the legendary PBT Olivertti set except :
+ the F5-F8 from imsto sets are beige (which is better IMO)
+ the colour legends from imsto are Desko and Russian language
if we are talking about the colour, legend and PBT material only.
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/olivetti_zpsab286e5a.jpg)
*picture belongs to this IvanIvanovich's thread:
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-russian-dyesub-104-replica-keyset-t2718.html
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: anoxy on Mon, 26 May 2014, 22:40:59
Didn't IMSTO say the deadline was May 20? Or was that just for the $130 price? Looks like it's 150 now, but you can still order.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 29 May 2014, 01:43:51
Didn't IMSTO say the deadline was May 20? Or was that just for the $130 price? Looks like it's 150 now, but you can still order.

Yep, got the money and have just put through an Order.  Definitely want some BSP goodness, so Imsto let us know when this is going through  :thumb: .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 30 May 2014, 09:07:13
I think this set is already in production, mean while, some winkeys sample


(http://puu.sh/9260E)
(http://puu.sh/925Ud)

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: rockhawksam on Sun, 08 June 2014, 10:33:57
I ordered a set from the website yesterday. Just to clarify, will my set be shipped along with all of the other sets in June or will I receive mine later because I did not pre-order?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: avtar on Sun, 08 June 2014, 11:03:38
When in June are sets expected to ship?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 13 June 2014, 20:24:04
So imsto, you mentioned a while back that you'd consider our input before deciding on how the 1x windows key would look

Do you have a final decision yet? Windows logo or blank?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 13 June 2014, 22:04:28
So imsto, you mentioned a while back that you'd consider our input before deciding on how the 1x windows key would look

Do you have a final decision yet? Windows logo or blank?

I'm also interested in knowing what graphic you're going to use (or not).  Please let us desperates know what you are doing here  ;) .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:36:37
Hmm, any word on how long this is going to take?  We haven't heard anything from IMSTO in a little while.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 18 June 2014, 20:57:08
BSP is still making the keycaps for IMSTO  :))
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 15:01:46
Any updates?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 08 July 2014, 21:55:38
Any updates?

BSP has sent out the caps, dyesub process should begin in a week or two.  :))
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 21:57:01
Please don't take this the wrong way, but who are you, and where is Imsto?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 08 July 2014, 22:27:11
Please don't take this the wrong way, but who are you, and where is Imsto?

I guess imsto doesn't log on to GH to post updates very often, but another organizer of this group buy (not on GH) posts update quite often on a chat group, and kekkon is very active in that chat group, so he knows pretty much all the update.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Tue, 08 July 2014, 22:45:20
Got it, thanks.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 12 July 2014, 00:10:34
Any updates?

BSP has sent out the caps, dyesub process should begin in a week or two.  :))

Please keep us informed here kekkon  ;) .  I'm surprised that my Paypal account hasn't been billed yet for the construction of these key-sets, hence worried about this whole procedure he has set up.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 15 July 2014, 08:37:52
Any updates?

BSP has sent out the caps, dyesub process should begin in a week or two.  :))

Please keep us informed here kekkon  ;) .  I'm surprised that my Paypal account hasn't been billed yet for the construction of these key-sets, hence worried about this whole procedure he has set up.

Here is the update from IMSTO~

(http://i.imgur.com/53viesd.jpg)


EDIT: It turn's out that some of these photos are not from this gb  :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Tue, 15 July 2014, 12:26:06
Any updates?

BSP has sent out the caps, dyesub process should begin in a week or two.  :))

Please keep us informed here kekkon  ;) .  I'm surprised that my Paypal account hasn't been billed yet for the construction of these key-sets, hence worried about this whole procedure he has set up.

Here is the update from IMSTO~

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/53viesd.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8fSFVDt.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8fSFVDt.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/75orrMI.jpg)



Those look great! Can't wait!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 July 2014, 21:09:43
Any updates?

BSP has sent out the caps, dyesub process should begin in a week or two.  :))

Please keep us informed here kekkon  ;) .  I'm surprised that my Paypal account hasn't been billed yet for the construction of these key-sets, hence worried about this whole procedure he has set up.

Here is the update from IMSTO~

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/53viesd.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8fSFVDt.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8fSFVDt.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/75orrMI.jpg)



Thank you so much for this.

Let me say Imsto has done something terrific here because SP tried their hand at making PBT sets and it sucked major league but Imsto has done extremely well here.  No misshapen keys and the dye-sub is neat and clear.

Maybe Imsto should of done Matt3o's Granite Key-set because I can lay money down now, that it would be far superior in quality and appearance  :thumb: .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:07:28
Forgot to ask Imsto here, will there be a 6.25 and 7 Spacebar available for purchase with this Group Buy?

He did mention he will provide it but would like to know if he is currently arranging a manufacture of these spacebars or is he waiting to start another Group Buy for them separately?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:08:20

Forgot to ask Imsto here, will there be a 6.25 and 7 Spacebar available for purchase with this Group Buy?

He did mention he will provide it but would like to know if he is currently arranging a manufacture of these spacebars or is he waiting to start another Group Buy for them separately?

Those were only going to be included if we had at least 100 orders

I think we had like less than 30 in the pre-order
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 July 2014, 22:22:39
Those were only going to be included if we had at least 100 orders

I think we had like less than 30 in the pre-order

So you think he'll run a separate Group Buy for them then?  Hope so because we need proper, coloured, spacebars to go with these key-sets.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 16 July 2014, 00:09:51
Forgot to ask Imsto here, will there be a 6.25 and 7 Spacebar available for purchase with this Group Buy?

He did mention he will provide it but would like to know if he is currently arranging a manufacture of these spacebars or is he waiting to start another Group Buy for them separately?


There will be spacebar available for purchase after this, don't worry. :)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: calavera on Wed, 16 July 2014, 00:16:28
Probably not the right place but no clue where to ask. Are there any BSP blanks available? I'd really kill for some blanks.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 16 July 2014, 08:38:02
Some high resolution picture of dyesub RGB

(http://puu.sh/acmIG.JPG)
(http://puu.sh/acmOJ.JPG)
(http://puu.sh/acmT9.JPG)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 16 July 2014, 22:10:13
Some high resolution picture of dyesub RGB

Damn, some choice pics there, thanks for that  :thumb: .

The dye-sub that Imsto has completed is up there in quality, not bad at all even when you look at it up close.  He certainly came through here when it comes to delivering a superb standard of key-set.

On you Imsto, we need more such as these because you can't get this caliber of key-sets anywhere on this planet now, except from you  8) .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 16 July 2014, 22:10:19
Some high resolution picture of dyesub RGB

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/acmIG.JPG)

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/acmOJ.JPG)

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/acmT9.JPG)



Man I wish I had a board that this set would fit on.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 27 July 2014, 07:22:28
Some photo update:

(http://puu.sh/asLGH)
(http://puu.sh/asLwE)
(http://puu.sh/asLsy)

p/s: seems spoiler in gh work diff way  :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Thu, 07 August 2014, 09:13:07
Can't wait :)
Any update?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Thu, 07 August 2014, 22:06:17
Sorry about the delay.
Since the weather is too hot, the keys are delayed to the end of this month
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tribade on Fri, 08 August 2014, 00:27:00
Sorry about the delay.
Since the weather is too hot, the keys are delayed to the end of this month

No problem!  Thanks for the update!  Appreciate the good work.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:37:25
Some updates on base set:

(http://i.imgur.com/CFg6eEO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jHJv0EZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Hd6nVDj.jpg)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Thu, 28 August 2014, 21:09:05
Any update there?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 28 August 2014, 22:09:59
Any update there?

Sure, where are the updates because this Group Buy has taken on 7bit's status of maybe taking a year or more to finish.  Please don't let this happen because I've been saying lots of nice things about Imsto, don't make me out to be liar and a shill  :-[ .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 August 2014, 22:15:26
 Its only been not quite 4.5 months.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 22:33:54
Sure, where are the updates because this Group Buy has taken on 7bit's status of maybe taking a year or more to finish.  Please don't let this happen because I've been saying lots of nice things about Imsto, don't make me out to be liar and a shill  :-[ .

Would you please elaborate more on this. Where did you get the information of one year delay? BTW, if there is any delay, it would be just unfortunate event. I don't think anybody will be called a liar or shill just because of this. Imsto is one of the most reliable suppliers on GH, Taobao, enjoyclick and other keyboard communities.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 29 August 2014, 07:24:13
Its only been not quite 4.5 months.

So what would be the typical Imsto delivery time for this BSP key-set?  Just curious........
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:15:33
Its only been not quite 4.5 months.

So what would be the typical Imsto delivery time for this BSP key-set?  Just curious........

Sorry for sounding like a panicking, newbie b1tchhole with nothing better to do.  I know how hard it is to accomplish making dye-subs especially providing spacer bars that will match the colour of the key-sets already made.

Please ignore my usual rants and b1tching here, most do anyway  8) .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 30 August 2014, 13:05:25
will be done very soon.
will send them  ASAP
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 August 2014, 21:01:51
will be done very soon.
will send them  ASAP

Good to hear from you good Sir  :thumb: .

Just glad that our BSP's weren't forgotten or lost in transit (if sent).  I walk past my naked GON every time I walk into the internet room, it's so depressing seeing such a great keyboard with out it's BSP key-caps  :'( .

At least now they're coming and will soon elevate the GON into stratospheric perfection.........
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 31 August 2014, 08:04:06
Some photos update before IMSTO start shipping :p

http://puu.sh/bfo9C.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9V.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoae.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaA.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaU.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9f.jpg
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tuantruong on Sun, 31 August 2014, 08:30:47
Some photos update before IMSTO start shipping :p

http://puu.sh/bfo9C.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9V.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoae.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaA.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaU.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9f.jpg
looks awesome! :eek:
Does that spacebar come with the set as an offer from imsto? That looks a little off-color to me.  :blank:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 08:36:24
Some photos update before IMSTO start shipping :p

http://puu.sh/bfo9C.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9V.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoae.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaA.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfoaU.jpg
http://puu.sh/bfo9f.jpg

Holy Batman, Dat keyset is GREAT  :thumb:
My jaw dropped  :eek:

Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 31 August 2014, 15:09:00
If anyone want to sell their order, please let me know
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:01:58
Holy Batman, Dat keyset is GREAT  :thumb:
My jaw dropped  :o

I ordered the Desko set and I have to say Imsto has delivered BIG TIME here  8) .  They're absolutely beautiful, this is how REAL dye-sub should be done  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:05:17
Holy Batman, Dat keyset is GREAT  :thumb:
My jaw dropped  :o

I ordered the Desko set and I have to say Imsto has delivered BIG TIME here  8) .  They're absolutely beautiful, this is how REAL dye-sub should be done  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: .
Agreed. I'm kicking myself for not getting a set.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: patchworks on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:28:54
If anybody wants to sell or trade it, let me know.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:34:22
If anybody wants to sell or trade it, let me know.
I'm not 100% certain, but I believe sets will be available on imsto's site for purchase.  It's listed at a higher price than the original gb price though.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:48:11
If anybody wants to sell or trade it, let me know.
I'm not 100% certain, but I believe sets will be available on imsto's site for purchase.  It's listed at a higher price than the original gb price though.

That's correct.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: chaosstep on Tue, 02 September 2014, 19:15:22
The status was just updated.
'Processing'
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: rebluer on Wed, 03 September 2014, 04:41:47
(http://i.imgur.com/hfwZdcW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9atE554.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pMONl8i.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ejLGirT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HatSVRu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SaEOigG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HiX8KIT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oPa6PJB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/esTm4UE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OUqnAX0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vS6sxsZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8COr7hM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lvoA6Ez.jpg)

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 03 September 2014, 04:42:25
Nice 3007 rebluer! Thanks for the photos.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Zephitos on Wed, 03 September 2014, 05:28:21
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/hfwZdcW.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/9atE554.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/HatSVRu.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/HiX8KIT.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/8COr7hM.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lvoA6Ez.jpg)


 :-* :-* :-*


OMG do you receive it?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: redskull on Fri, 05 September 2014, 14:28:25
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/hfwZdcW.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9atE554.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pMONl8i.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ejLGirT.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HatSVRu.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SaEOigG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HiX8KIT.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/oPa6PJB.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/esTm4UE.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OUqnAX0.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vS6sxsZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8COr7hM.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lvoA6Ez.jpg)


 :-* :-* :-*
where can we get those windows keys?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 September 2014, 14:43:44
Is it just me, or do the imsto sets never get legends as black as Cherry did?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:57:07
as we discuzed before, the 7x spacebar will not be included in the set.
but I will also provide it as 4$ for one 7x space bar. the link is in my site.
the link is only for those who had bought the BSP keyset.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: redskull on Sat, 06 September 2014, 10:08:45
as we discuzed before, the 7x spacebar will not be included in the set.
but I will also provide it as 4$ for one 7x space bar. the link is in my site.
the link is only for those who had bought the BSP keyset.
how about the 1x winkey windows logo caps? will you be selling those too?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: MrChunky on Sat, 06 September 2014, 11:21:46
I could not find the link for the space bar, could someone point me in the right direction? Or is this a thing that will be available later?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sat, 06 September 2014, 11:47:22
Sorry
here it is
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99

the 1x win will be available later.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Sat, 06 September 2014, 12:34:15
Sorry
here it is
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

the 1x win will be available later.


Is it alright if I get the spacebar without logging in to an account? I can't seem to log in to the account I bought the BSP set with (or maybe I didn't log in, I don't know).
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 07 September 2014, 11:11:48
Sorry
here it is
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

the 1x win will be available later.


Is it alright if I get the spacebar without logging in to an account? I can't seem to log in to the account I bought the BSP set with (or maybe I didn't log in, I don't know).

it's ok
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: CK Briefs on Sun, 07 September 2014, 11:32:31
Sorry
here it is
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

the 1x win will be available later.


Is it alright if I get the spacebar without logging in to an account? I can't seem to log in to the account I bought the BSP set with (or maybe I didn't log in, I don't know).

it's ok


It's currently out of stock, has it been 48 hours already?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 07 September 2014, 19:56:55
Sorry
here it is
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=99)

the 1x win will be available later.


Is it alright if I get the spacebar without logging in to an account? I can't seem to log in to the account I bought the BSP set with (or maybe I didn't log in, I don't know).

it's ok


It's currently out of stock, has it been 48 hours already?
When I last saw the link, it only had 18 spacebars.  :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 07 September 2014, 21:57:24
When I last saw the link, it only had 18 spacebars.  :p

You lot better jump on them as soon as possible  8) .  Without a 'Space Bar' you literally don't have a proper key-set, you should know that by now.......
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: n0f4c3 on Mon, 08 September 2014, 01:03:10
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/esTm4UE.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OUqnAX0.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vS6sxsZ.jpg)



The three photos above do not appear to be an option available for purchase on either imsto.cn or aikb.taobao.com. I would very much like to purchase the same keyset displayed in those pictures (only changing the escape key to match the rest of the set) -- been looking for a set just like this for quite a while now and I want to make sure I'm not missing out. So please clarify for me, if this  is something I can buy from IMSTO, because if it is then I'll put in an immediate order.

Thanks
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 08 September 2014, 01:49:55
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/esTm4UE.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OUqnAX0.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vS6sxsZ.jpg)



The three photos above do not appear to be an option available for purchase on either imsto.cn or aikb.taobao.com. I would very much like to purchase the same keyset displayed in those pictures (only changing the escape key to match the rest of the set) -- been looking for a set just like this for quite a while now and I want to make sure I'm not missing out. So please clarify for me, if this  is something I can buy from IMSTO, because if it is then I'll put in an immediate order.

Thanks

That is the Cherry Dyesub caps, you can't find them on imsto.cn.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 08 September 2014, 03:01:48
Will any more spacebars be posted?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: n0f4c3 on Mon, 08 September 2014, 03:11:54
what I expected :(  If I wasn't so OCD, I'd be satisfied with the additional orange legends on the BSP desko legends. Hopefully something like these Cherry Dyesub caps will become available in the future
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 08 September 2014, 04:12:45
what I expected :(  If I wasn't so OCD, I'd be satisfied with the additional orange legends on the BSP desko legends. Hopefully something like these Cherry Dyesub caps will become available in the future

More and more BST caps with IMSTO dyesub is coming, don't worry. :)
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Mon, 08 September 2014, 11:49:03
keys will be sent very soon.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 08 September 2014, 20:07:01
keys will be sent very soon.

I've been waiting to hear those six words, thanks Imsto  :thumb: .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 10 September 2014, 07:35:58
Wow this sets look nice, is the dyesublimation done by BSP too or just the caps are BSP? also love the x1 window key and the additional 4 keys above the numberpad F13-F16. What I would like to see for the future GB would be this if possible:

Include Red Esc key to the RGB and hopefully 2 yellow x1 window keys if possible also, it will be something new and I wouldn't mind having a proper PBT BSP set + RGBY + Red Esc to go with it.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: rebluer on Wed, 10 September 2014, 14:49:51
Wow this sets look nice, is the dyesublimation done by BSP too or just the caps are BSP? also love the x1 window key and the additional 4 keys above the numberpad F13-F16. What I would like to see for the future GB would be this if possible:

Include Red Esc key to the RGB and hopefully 2 yellow x1 window keys if possible also, it will be something new and I wouldn't mind having a proper PBT BSP set + RGBY + Red Esc to go with it.

Imsto Group

1. BSP blank PBT 102 keycaps (no space) with A-profile   +   Desko/Russian Cyrillic  Dye-Sub by Imsto

2. BSP blank PBT RGB keycaps with A-profile   +   Dye-Sub by Imsto

3. GMK space ( for 1. )


F13-F16 are from G80-1911, and Red ESC is from GMK.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Sun, 14 September 2014, 05:41:39
IMSTO, sent you PM about changing address for my RGB dyesub order. Hope you see it before shipping :thumb:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Sun, 14 September 2014, 20:40:01
IMSTO, sent you PM about changing address for my RGB dyesub order. Hope you see it before shipping :thumb:

not lucky,...  it's been sent...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: cphead on Sun, 14 September 2014, 21:01:33
IMSTO, sent you PM about changing address for my RGB dyesub order. Hope you see it before shipping :thumb:

not lucky,...  it's been sent...

Nooo. Can you estimate when it would be delivered to US?  :-X
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: imsto on Mon, 15 September 2014, 22:19:24
should be in 1-2 two weeks.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: telegraphist on Thu, 18 September 2014, 23:22:36
Those, who are lusting this:

(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/9.JPG)

May consider ordering the whole G80-1800LPCRB-0 board for about the same price as this set.
The new board costs £75.56 and it is currently 2 - 4 Weeks out of stock, according to their site.
I have found it here:
http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/2803-cherry-g80-1800-compact-keyboard
That is, of course, if the UK and Russian ISO layout with MX Blacks doesn't sound too scary.
They called it a "compact keyboard", but it looks pretty much full-sized to me.
I am not 100% certain, but believe Cherry is using PBT caps for these boards.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 19 September 2014, 00:09:40
Those, who are lusting this:

Show Image
(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/9.JPG)


May consider ordering the whole G80-1800LPCRB-0 board for about the same price as this set.
The new board costs £75.56 and it is currently 2 - 4 Weeks out of stock, according to their site.
I have found it here:
http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/2803-cherry-g80-1800-compact-keyboard
That is, of course, if the UK and Russian ISO layout with MX Blacks doesn't sound too scary.
They called it a "compact keyboard", but it looks pretty much full-sized to me.
I am not 100% certain, but believe Cherry is using PBT caps for these boards.


What an epic reply  :eek:

 :p :p
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 00:36:09
Those, who are lusting this:

Show Image
(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/9.JPG)


May consider ordering the whole G80-1800LPCRB-0 board for about the same price as this set.
The new board costs £75.56 and it is currently 2 - 4 Weeks out of stock, according to their site.
I have found it here:
http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/2803-cherry-g80-1800-compact-keyboard
That is, of course, if the UK and Russian ISO layout with MX Blacks doesn't sound too scary.
They called it a "compact keyboard", but it looks pretty much full-sized to me.
I am not 100% certain, but believe Cherry is using PBT caps for these boards.

The keyboard on your link has a completely different keyset, so you should not provide misleading information. They article number 1800LPCRB indicated it is laser-etched. Winkey set on G80-1800 likely has thin PBT set. So the price 75 pound is not a cheap price actually. I think you are mentioning a very different set while imsto one is a thick PBT and dyesub  :D.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: telegraphist on Fri, 19 September 2014, 01:57:55
The keyboard on your link has a completely different keyset, so you should not provide misleading information. They article number 1800LPCRB indicated it is laser-etched. Winkey set on G80-1800 likely has thin PBT set. So the price 75 pound is not a cheap price actually. I think you are mentioning a very different set while imsto one is a thick PBT and dyesub  :D.
Didn't I wrote:
"That is, of course, if the UK and Russian ISO layout with MX Blacks doesn't sound too scary."?
So how my post could be "misleading"?
Didn't I also have provided a link to a keyboard I was talking about, so everyone who wanted could read its description there and decide for themselves whether, or not they might be interested in this keyboard, provided they require US/Russian layout?
Anyway...
Correct me if I am wrong, but while Latin fonts are double-shot, as far as I understand the Cyrillic fonts on the imsto BSP PBT keyset were printed? I hope imsto, as their vendor, could clarify this.
According to this:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1800
"...Like other contemporary Cherry keyboards, current G80-1800s have Windows keys, a USB interface and only laser-etched keycaps in light grey PBT or black POM.
Current G80-1800s have Cherry MX Black switches."
Unlike you, Deskthority didn't specify whether keycaps were thin. They said they were PBT on grey boards and POM on black ones.
As far as I remember I also never have said the caps were "thick".
It looks to me, that you yourself are quite aggressive without a reason, are you?
Regards,
telegraphist.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 04:30:30
Don't get me wrong. Believe me, I'm not that rude. Forgive me if you have that feeling  ;D.

What I mean is that you are comparing two different things and the keyboard on your link is expensive, IMO. I think the keycap set on the link you post usually worth about 10-15 USD, even if they are thick) the price 75 pound (115$) cannot justify the rest of the keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

You can check this thread, Deskthority confirmed they are thin PBT:
http://deskthority.net/ebay-de-f68/a-lot-of-cherry-g80-1800-for-next-to-nothing-t2639.html
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: telegraphist on Fri, 19 September 2014, 16:54:07
Don't get me wrong. Believe me, I'm not that rude. Forgive me if you have that feeling  ;D.

What I mean is that you are comparing two different things and the keyboard on your link is expensive, IMO. I think the keycap set on the link you post usually worth about 10-15 USD, even if they are thick) the price 75 pound (115$) cannot justify the rest of the keyboard (Cherry MX Black)

You can check this thread, Deskthority confirmed they are thin PBT:
http://deskthority.net/ebay-de-f68/a-lot-of-cherry-g80-1800-for-next-to-nothing-t2639.html
Accepted, it's OK.
All right than: to confirm your words, please KINDLY post a link to a site that IS actually selling a US/Russian Cherry MX set (even thin PBT caps will do) I am looking for? I'd appreciate if you'd be able to post such a link, even if such a set costs not the 10 or 15 USD, as you have said, but 2, or 4 times as much per such US/Russian (even thin), but PBT keyset?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 18:40:29
You can try in the classified area.  I saw people sold that sets some times. They harvest the switches and sell the keycap sets. For instance, at least 50 keyboards in this thread were sold at 25$ and most of them are just for harvesting switches. The keycap sets are likely abandoned. I hope that you can find one easily. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57152.0
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181383285289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181388671694

On the other hand, imsto is selling 2 rare replica sets. First, his Russian replica is similar to ESA-3000-HASRO which is an extinct animal now, the cost of ESA-3000-HASRO would be 200-400USD/set depending on the condition I think. Imsto also had a cheaper Russian Thick PBT dyesub set ($75) if you are looking for (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/cherry-russian-dyesub-104-replica-keyset-t2718.html). Last but not least, his Desko replica perhaps is the unique.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: telegraphist on Sun, 21 September 2014, 02:20:48
As far as links you provided - none of them lead to actual sells.
Thus they all are, in fact, misleading.
By the way: imsto currently isn't selling the US/Russian keycaps sets, as far as I understand.
Even for $135/set.
So, it looks to me that the link I have posted is actually leading to the only REAL possibility (at least possibility I know of) to obtain an English/Russian Cherry MX keyboard with PBT caps in the online store.
And a whole new full mechanical Cherry MX keyboard, mind you, for a price that is lower than this currently unavailable keyset some people maybe lusting for.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sun, 21 September 2014, 03:00:44
Oh, now it comes to actual sales vs probable sales.  FYI, currently, imsto is the only vendor who actually has PBT + Dyesub +  Russian. He is maybe out of stock now but if you have a group buy with a certain number of keycap sets he can do it for you as he did so many times in the past for GeekHack community.
(http://i.imgur.com/dW5OBYz.png)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/10760507515_b2629b1ed6_z.jpg)
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57244.0;attach=61637;image)

Take a look at imsto stock, it doesn't hurt if we assume he still has 174 blank sets and we may see many more BSP dyesub set incoming to the market, it could be R, G, B, it could be Irish, it could be anything, it could be even the Russian again if the demand meets the MOQ. He is an expert on dyesub so stay tuned, we may see many more  :p
[attachimg=1]
(http://i.imgur.com/DK1TRRM.jpg)
(http://i3.minus.com/ibwoCVXA98Y9HH.jpg)
**: I'm not speaking for imsto, what I predicted about the future sets are only based on my assumption.
***: Pictures belong to the GH members, I did not own these pictures.

Besides, I think I see your point. You still have hard feeling when I call you misleading. Take it easy, dude, didn't I say sorry?  You came to a vendor sub forum of imsto while he is selling his keycap sets and lead people to something else.
As you said
Those, who are lusting this:
Show Image
(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/9.JPG)

May consider ordering the whole G80-1800LPCRB-0 board for about the same price as this set.
Your post will not be any problem if it is an answer for people are looking for a normal Cyrillic set but you point directly to the imsto set on imsto vendor forum and compare with it. I understand the word 'lusting' is something people really desire. So I can freely assume that people who are lusting for imsto set (BSP plastic, Thick PBT, dual tone dyesub, Russian) will totally understand the value of it and they really need it. However, the keyboard on your link has a completely different keyset. From my point of view, you encourage people are lusting the imsto set to buy something else with the same price but totally different, laser-etched, different R1, probably thinner and are not justified for the price of 125 USD. That does not count the fact that the given website from you is based in UK, they charged the shipping cost 65 USD, eventually the keyboard is about 188-190 USD (115.51GBP) shipped.

If you want to discuss more, we should PM instead because this a vendor sub-forum, it is not right if we discuss about something irrelevant to imsto sales.

Edit: correct some points.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:40:51
nothing to do with imsto - sorry.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: avtar on Sun, 21 September 2014, 12:55:08
findingthelimit, perhaps it would be best to start a thread about this elsewhere since it doesn't have much to do with imsto's group buy?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: findingthelimit on Sun, 21 September 2014, 13:07:51
findingthelimit, perhaps it would be best to start a thread about this elsewhere since it doesn't have much to do with imsto's group buy?

Edited it out, sorry for derailing.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 01:42:04
Hi imsto, today my package was arrived safe and sound. Everything is perfect beyond my expectation. Absolutely, I did not regret joining this GB. It seems your dyesub on BSP plastic is smoother than on KBC plastic. That can explain the font is high contrast but very smooth. It's amazing! Thank you  :thumb:
[attachimg=1]
*the grey dot on the space bar is because my lens dirty
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: epzy on Tue, 23 September 2014, 04:04:35
WTB a russian set if anyone wants to sell.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 08:33:52
Here are some comparisons between Imsto dyesub on BSP PBT plastic and other PBT dyesub sets.
(http://i.imgur.com/3mr25SI.jpg)

The right shift key after Imsto dyesub is very flat.
(http://i.imgur.com/hvLvseU.jpg)

The dyesub quality is high with a nice balance between sharpness and the contrast. They are just right to my eyes.
(http://i.imgur.com/fyh2efN.jpg)

GH keys on slightly different angle
(http://i.imgur.com/r6vgVsF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9CYbt1n.jpg)

I hope that we will see more high quality BSP PBT dyesub sets like these from imsto.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 September 2014, 08:59:20
Here are some comparisons between Imsto dyesub on BSP PBT plastic and other PBT dyesub sets.
-snip-

Thanks for the comparisons, phoenix! It appears that BSP dyesub bleeds a bit more? (and in a slightly fatter font?)

Really really wish I joined this GB :'( Hopefully there will be extras in his shop!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Tue, 23 September 2014, 09:10:35
is this set available on imsto store now? so sad I missed this :(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: phoenix1234 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 09:45:33
Quote from: Zeal
phoenix! It appears that BSP dyesub bleeds a bit more? (and in a slightly fatter font?)
Yes, I can confirm BSP dyesub bleeds a bit more and in a slightly fatter font (based on the BSP sets that I have).
The imsto dyesub on BSP plastic is better. Likely it has no shading and bleeding (or unnoticeable)  :thumb:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:51:26
Quote from: Zeal
phoenix! It appears that BSP dyesub bleeds a bit more? (and in a slightly fatter font?)
Yes, I can confirm BSP dyesub bleeds a bit more and in a slightly fatter font (based on the BSP sets that I have).
The imsto dyesub on BSP plastic is better. Likely it has no shading and bleeding (or unnoticeable)  :thumb:

It looks like Imsto is the KING of Dye-sub around here  ;D .  He certainly has reached perfection in arranging the typeface and applying it successfully to BSP's key-set.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: telegraphist on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:28:01
is this set available on imsto store now? so sad I missed this :(

Here is my exchange with *imsto*:
**...please email whether or not this Russian keyset set is available for
sale?
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=90
You page is saying following:
Brand: OThers
Product Code: 104cherrydyesub
Availability: 174
If the set is not available now, will it be available any time soon?
Please give me more information about this set!
Xxxx Xxxxxxx
Xxxxx, IL
USA

IMSTO/;f via yyzzz.com
Sep 3
to me:
you may order it, but the keys of the first GB is over, so you should wait few weeks for the next batch.**

Hope it clarifies things for you, bazh.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: bazh on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:51:55
thanks man :thumb:
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: combataran on Wed, 01 October 2014, 02:01:52
So where do I place an order for the next batch?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 01 October 2014, 02:41:33
So where do I place an order for the next batch?

Most of us are still waiting for the FIRST batch to be delivered to our front doors........
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 02 October 2014, 21:26:38
Got mine today, was surprised when I found it in the mailbox. This set looks wonderful with my LS. Sorry for the potato pic, I got home at 8pm today and being so tired, I will try to take some better shots tmr. :'(
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: nukec on Sun, 05 October 2014, 20:49:21
Someone wants to sell russian set?
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 12 October 2014, 09:32:10
Received the desko set and regretted not getting the Russian set also.


Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
Post by: runcom on Mon, 13 October 2014, 09:50:02
If someone has a russian set I have money and clacks :D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: tribade on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:09:40
Thought I'd post a few (terrible) pictures of the set:
(http://i.imgur.com/M3Fgltt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vV8HxMl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/afr3k1B.jpg)

The right shift and the spacebar are not from the set.  I had them already, and the set doesn't come with anything that fit.  I'm going to use these on my Duck Viper when it's ready.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Karura on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:38:13
Thought I'd post a few (terrible) pictures of the set:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M3Fgltt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vV8HxMl.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/afr3k1B.jpg)


The right shift and the spacebar are not from the set.  I had them already, and the set doesn't come with anything that fit.  I'm going to use these on my Duck Viper when it's ready.
Where were the right modifiers from?

Nice setup
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: tribade on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:46:11
Thought I'd post a few (terrible) pictures of the set:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M3Fgltt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vV8HxMl.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/afr3k1B.jpg)


The right shift and the spacebar are not from the set.  I had them already, and the set doesn't come with anything that fit.  I'm going to use these on my Duck Viper when it's ready.
Where were the right modifiers from?

Nice setup
Thanks!

They are from a set of, I think, vintage cherry double-shots that came with the board when I bought it from Tsangan.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Sent on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:48:05
Thought I'd post a few (terrible) pictures of the set:
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The right shift and the spacebar are not from the set.  I had them already, and the set doesn't come with anything that fit.  I'm going to use these on my Duck Viper when it's ready.

Beautiful KMAC Mini.  I ****ing love that board.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: tribade on Tue, 21 October 2014, 18:02:52
Thought I'd post a few (terrible) pictures of the set:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M3Fgltt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vV8HxMl.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/afr3k1B.jpg)


The right shift and the spacebar are not from the set.  I had them already, and the set doesn't come with anything that fit.  I'm going to use these on my Duck Viper when it's ready.

Beautiful KMAC Mini.  I ****ing love that board.

Thanks! I was really lucky in that I was able to pick one up relatively soon in the classifieds after the group buy ended. I don't see too many being sold these days.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 09:13:50
Any update on shipping? I might need to change my shipping address.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 31 December 2014, 11:50:23
Is it possible anyone bought an extra set of any design that I could snag?  I feel a fool for not getting in on this goodness at the right time...

If not, hopefully there will be extras put up on IMSTOs website, but when he messaged me he didn't seem particularly sure their were extras.

Cheers!
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: intelli78 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:45:20
Soo... here we are 4 months later, I think it's time for an update...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:04:06
Soo... here we are 4 months later, I think it's time for an update...

Keycaps were just sent for dyesubbing on Feb 2. Tony said hopefully done around lunar new year and start shipping in March.

He also mentioned there's no crooked stems (hoping he means BSP fixed their r_shift / F-row), pics coming later.
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:54:41
Soo... here we are 4 months later, I think it's time for an update...

Keycaps were just sent for dyesubbing on Feb 2. Tony said hopefully done around lunar new year and start shipping in March.

He also mentioned there's no crooked stems (hoping he means BSP fixed their r_shift / F-row), pics coming later.

Fantastic, that we'll look to have our key-sets sent in March which is approaching quite soon  :thumb: .
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:01:54
Soo... here we are 4 months later, I think it's time for an update...

Keycaps were just sent for dyesubbing on Feb 2. Tony said hopefully done around lunar new year and start shipping in March.

He also mentioned there's no crooked stems (hoping he means BSP fixed their r_shift / F-row), pics coming later.
That's awesome news, thanks Zeal!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:29:43
I just realized this is the r1 GB thread haha...
Title: Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 103 pcs keycaps Group buy
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 09:43:08
I just realized this is the r1 GB thread haha...

Ah yeah my mistake