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Title: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: feng on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:35:56
GB link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0

We've come to the conclusion that we'll be providing three layouts for this keyboard as shown below. The only difference between these three layouts is the bottom row. Please keep in mind that the 6x spacebar in layout #2 isn't that hard to find. It comes in most of the full thick PBT keyset I have for sale on geekkeys.com, as well as most  Gateron keysets. I can also source some PBT 6x spacebar in many colors if necessary.

1. 1.5x, 1.25x, 1.5x, 6.25x, 1.25x, 1.25x, 1.0x, 1.0x, 1.0x
2. 1.5x, 1.0x, 1.5x, 6x, 1.5x, 1.5x, 1.0x, 1.0x, 1.0x
3. 1.5x, 1.5x, 7x, 1.5x, 1.5x, 1.0x, 1.0x, 1.0x

[attach=17][attach=18]

VOTE HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18I626EUHTvlP_NR_wtrk123NMjrPKQikJ1WLsXHf7SU/viewform?c=0&w=1)

We'll need you to vote which type of carbon fiber plates you'd prefer for layout #2 and #3, as we'll decide which type of plate we're gonna produce. If you like layout #1, you don't need to vote. If the vote is like 50/50, we'll make two different plates for layout #2 and #3. If it's not, we'll consider making a compatible plate that fits both layout as shown in the 2nd attachment below (the bottom row is separete from the main plate, and it can be installed individually).

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A video showing LED swapping (http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0423/v/swf/loader.swf?VideoIDS=XNzc3NjQ1MjYw&embedid=OTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz&wd=&vext=pid%3D%26emb%3DOTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz%26bc%3D%26type%3D0)

Here's a video showing the firmness of switch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P7iBCCO-cI&feature=youtu.be)


DeeLonG has been preparing for this Smart 68 keyboard set for almost two years. Another product from him would be his aluminum keychain that I introduced to GH about one and a half years ago. Here's the link: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38841.0
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=15]


The most important selling point for this keyboard: hot-plugging (hot swapping). No soldering needed at all. You can install any MX switches to the PCB slots, and you can change the MX switches anytime you want even while it’s still connected to the computer. After countless testing, you don’t need to worry about their firmness. Once the MX switch is properly installed, it fits stably on the slot. LEDs are hot swappable as well.
[attach=4][attach=5][attach=6]


Another selling point is the carbon fiber plate which goes on the PCB. Carbon fiber is really strong and more flexible than other materials used for keyboard plates such as aluminum, steel, stainless steel, etc. It also provides a new typing experience that you’ve probably never felt before.
[attach=7][attach=8][attach=9]


It's also  fully programmable. Instructions will be posted once the group buy starts.


Personally I really like the size of 60% keyboards, but there’s just one important thing missing – arrow keys. You don’t really need them a lot, but once a while they just become essential to use. That’s how the producer came up with the current layout – 68-key. He adds arrow keys and some function keys into the regular 61-key layout.
[attach=10][attach=11]


Here’s a list showing the length of some keycaps
Spacebar - 6.25x
Left Ctrl – 1.5x
Left Win – 1.25x
Left Alt – 1.5x
Right Alt – 1.25x
Right Ctrl – 1.25x
Right Shift – 1.75x

Capslock – you can choose between regular capslock and stepped capslock
[attach=12]

In the upper right area, the positions of backspace and “~`” key can be switched to the way you prefer.
[attach=13][attach=14]


The FN key was placed on the front side of the keyboard in order to allow your thumb switch faster between FN and spacebar.
[attach=15][attach=16]


Finally, the group buy price for this keyboard set will be around $300.

What’s included:
Aluminum case
PCB
Carbon Fiber Plate
Stabilizer Set


Please post in this thread if you’re interested or you have any suggestions.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:37:52
I like the concept of the folding feet. Not something I've seen in a 60%. I'd probably be down for one. I love the carbon fiber plate and the hot swap option is an amazing feature.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:40:50
Wow. Thought I was done with mx keyboards....but that is seriously cool.


Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Sent on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:41:58
I like all the features but the layout is pretty much exactly what Kaliet's 22mini-ex is.  Heh.  That fn key...I can't tell if I'd like it or if it'd bug me with its placement.  I'd still be interested, most likely.  For me, this is the perfect board size.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:42:55
Question: are the LEDs hot swappable as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: feng on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:56:20
Question: are the LEDs hot swappable as well?
Yes LEDs are hot swappable as well. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:56:37
Interesting! Does the FN key also use a Cherry switch? Was the plate also cut on finished carbon fibre, or was it glazed again with resin after the switch cuts?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:57:27
Question: are the LEDs hot swappable as well?
Yes LEDs are hot swappable as well. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

Yup, I'll have to find a way to get one then. This is too awesome to pass up.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:59:53

Question: are the LEDs hot swappable as well?
Yes LEDs are hot swappable as well. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

Yup, I'll have to find a way to get one then. This is too awesome to pass up.

This. Can I have one now? :D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:00:35
would buy in a heart beat.
really curious about the fn switch. more deatails plz.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:03:16
Really liking the idea and how it all looks.  Don't think I'll be getting one myself though as I just bought a viper.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:06:01
Really liking the idea and how it all looks.  Don't think I'll be getting one myself though as I just bought a viper.

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm glad I missed that sale now.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: divito on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:06:19
Pretty awesome overall. Will definitely be watching with interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:07:05
Assuming the hot swapable switches are like SIP sockets on a PCB, and that switches should still be removable by hand-- How do the switches stand up to swapping out keycaps? Would the switch get pulled out with the keycaps (especially tighter fitting ones like DSA on MX Clear)?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:12:27
Assuming the hot swapable switches are like SIP sockets on a PCB, and that switches should still be removable by hand-- How do the switches stand up to swapping out keycaps? Would the switch get pulled out with the keycaps (especially tighter fitting ones like DSA on MX Clear)?

And if I had my board upside-down and gave it a little jostle, would they come lose?
Also, how rigid will the carbon fibre be? Bendable? Still heavy?

Also, is backspace splitable?
Can we move it back in line with the rest of the mods and put tilde on the far right?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:15:29
A suggestion for the FN key -- would it be possible to have it aligned with the spacebar? It may not be in the centre of the case, but the staggered alignment with the spacebar seems awkward IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: calavera on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:24:56
this is pretty cool. I remember the thread when the concept was introduced some time ago. Glad to see it has come to fruition.

I'm going to assume the space bar is 6.75x?

The bottom row having a mix of both 1.5x and 1.25x is a little iffy but given today's many group buys it should be easier to source a matching set. I also agree it would be visually cleaner if the FN lined up with the space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:29:37
What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:33:01
I like this, it's like a compact 75%. I may get one in the far future. The carbon fiber plate is a nice cherry-on-top too.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: feng on Wed, 13 August 2014, 01:59:49
Interesting! Does the FN key also use a Cherry switch? Was the plate also cut on finished carbon fibre, or was it glazed again with resin after the switch cuts?

No the FN key uses a micro switch (usually used on mouse). The plate was cut on finished carbon fiber.

Assuming the hot swapable switches are like SIP sockets on a PCB, and that switches should still be removable by hand-- How do the switches stand up to swapping out keycaps? Would the switch get pulled out with the keycaps (especially tighter fitting ones like DSA on MX Clear)?

The switches are not removable by hand, you'll have to use a tool. Therefore they won't get pulled out with the keycaps.

And if I had my board upside-down and gave it a little jostle, would they come lose?
Also, how rigid will the carbon fibre be? Bendable? Still heavy?

Also, is backspace splitable?
Can we move it back in line with the rest of the mods and put tilde on the far right?

They won't come lose that easily. The carbon fiber is not bendable, it's really strong. The backspace is splitable, check the 2nd picture carefully (where it says In the upper right area, the positions of backspace and “~`” key can be switched to the way you prefer.) and you'll see the tilde key is located on the far right.

A suggestion for the FN key -- would it be possible to have it aligned with the spacebar? It may not be in the centre of the case, but the staggered alignment with the spacebar seems awkward IMO.

That sounds a really good idea. Unfortunaly the producer said we're not able to change the location of the FN key. It's not easy to do. However he said it doesn't affect the efficiency of using the key even though it's not aligned with the spacebar.

this is pretty cool. I remember the thread when the concept was introduced some time ago. Glad to see it has come to fruition.

I'm going to assume the space bar is 6.75x?

The bottom row having a mix of both 1.5x and 1.25x is a little iffy but given today's many group buys it should be easier to source a matching set. I also agree it would be visually cleaner if the FN lined up with the space bar.

The spacebar is standard 6.25x
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:00:23
Wow. Thought I was done with mx keyboards....but that is seriously cool.

Same here, Feng you've done it again here.  Definitely will be buying one to add to my collection  :thumb: .

I think this will be the FIRST keyboard to fit into the casing itself, a real FN key actuation, which is truly untold  :o .  This makes it a unique keyboard about to be sold here on Geekhack, please make it happen soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: feng on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:03:37
What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:05:13

What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Any of those would be awesome! Very excited for this!

Any idea how long till a GB would be possible to start?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Sent on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:21:53
What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Pink, please.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 02:23:38
What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.
blue, purple, orange, green? :D

What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Pink, please.

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!!!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: feng on Wed, 13 August 2014, 04:07:25

What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Any of those would be awesome! Very excited for this!

Any idea how long till a GB would be possible to start?

I'm still working on it. I think I'll let Massdrop handle this group buy since the factory requires 100 pcs MOQ and it's hard for me to make it happen on my own. If everything goes well, we might be able to see the group buy starting in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 13 August 2014, 04:11:33
Awesome board!

Will be hard NOT to buy it :p

300$ will be another serious blow to my wallet though :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 13 August 2014, 04:23:26
Very interested! I thought a 75% layout would be my first custom, but daaaaaaaamn I am so into this. I'm looking forward to your updates :]
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 13 August 2014, 04:41:17


What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Any of those would be awesome! Very excited for this!

Any idea how long till a GB would be possible to start?

I'm still working on it. I think I'll let Massdrop handle this group buy since the factory requires 100 pcs MOQ and it's hard for me to make it happen on my own. If everything goes well, we might be able to see the group buy starting in 3 weeks.

Just hope massdrop can make a quick turnaround once it starts!

Thanks for the info Feng!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 13 August 2014, 07:47:14
Wow, this is super cool! I'm going to have to start saving, I want one of these in my life  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: osi on Wed, 13 August 2014, 07:53:09
Very cool concept especially with the voodoo magic of hot swapping components like that.

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:03:11
Ha, this is great. Hot swappable 22-EX layout!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: njfn on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:26:50
i am very interested in this keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:27:15
This is a cool idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:07:49
This is impressive simply for the hot swappable switches if nothing else. We need more of this technology.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: JinDesu on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:12:11
I'm interested, at least for the swappable switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: mashby on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:21:32
Definitely interested. I just hope my wallet can recover in time.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:27:02
Holy sh!t, this is awesome.  Consider me interested.

This is also the best compact keyboard I have ever seen on here.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:31:46
This is impressive simply for the hot swappable switches if nothing else. We need more of this technology.

Yes.  More of that technology.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:05:51
Sad about the fn key being centered on the case instead of in line with the space bar, but that's okay.
Sorry I missed the picutre and comment about the layout, too excited for the board.  :-[
About the colors: I doubt we could make MOQ on funky colors, not everyone wants vibrant. [unless MOQs were much smaller than the board itself]
I had something else to say but I'm very tired.
Take my money.

edit: is it possible to have 3 1u keys where backspace is? or one has to be 2u?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:29:34
I think a 60% layout would be better for this board.  Why not take advantage of the super accessible Fn key?  Fn+IJKL is the perfect replacement for the arrow keys.  It seems a shame to make this keyboard wider for dedicated navigation keys when the great Fn placement is begging to be used instead.

With regard to hot swappable/solderless switches,  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:01:52
So do we need to buy plate mounted switches with diodes already in them?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:13:54
So do we need to buy plate mounted switches with diodes already in them?

Good point.  Maybe the plan is for those to be soldered onto the PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 13 August 2014, 17:24:29
Final question,
is it all programmable-- Can I change those fn keys under delete to pg up/pg dwn?
Can I split back space to two 1u keys?
I think I'm sold.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: RED-404 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 17:41:13
I really like the idea of this but won't likely be able to afford it for a while.

Defiantly needs to be fully programmable I for one would reperpus the entire nav cluster and replace Caps Lock with a FN layer if possable. It's not the best for everyone, but for me having FN instead of capslock is working great on my Poker II.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 21:55:06
This is awesome!

Two years? That's dedication.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: quake4mhg on Thu, 14 August 2014, 02:30:05
Awesome hot-swap design! Too bad I can't use 60%, waiting for 75% in the future  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: WOTRJWGZD on Thu, 14 August 2014, 06:45:24
Definitely interested but I would only spend up to 250.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 14 August 2014, 07:30:01
Omg, this is my next board! (and more if it can do more

1)
So, with the layouts. I see the bottom row has
1.5, 1.25, 1.5, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, (arrows 1, 1, 1)

In another photo with the screen in it
1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.75, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, (arrows 1, 1, 1)
With the difference being the larger spacebar and the extra modifier on the right.

a) Is this layout possible too? or it is only a developmental example.
b) does the PCB support multiple bottom row layouts? and what can it support?) -
c) Is there a photo of the (final) PCB, which should answer the above 2 questions.

2) Remapping support - will it support remapping the Fn Key to any of the conventional keys?

3) You said the Fn button was a momentary tactile button (conventional mouse type). Will this be soft enough to press without moving the keyboard along the table?

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: qwack on Thu, 14 August 2014, 07:34:43
Awesome concept. The full set will be too expensive for me (I'd gladly have taken one PCB and perhaps a plate, although I'm not too fond of carbon fiber), but I hope you'll be able to reach the MOQ. This project really deserves it.

I've been using custom footprints for IC pads on PCB to allow for easy hot-swapping without a socket for a while, but it looks like you brought it to the next level. I'd be curious to know what kind of inserts you are using, but I understand if it's something you don't want to talk about too much  ;D In any case, I love the fact that with your system, switches can easily be removed with an IC extractor.

Also, what kind of control will the user have over backlighting — how many levels of brightness, setting saved when powered off/on?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: kys on Thu, 14 August 2014, 09:31:33
i'm interested as well
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: pasph on Thu, 14 August 2014, 09:49:05
Interested
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 14 August 2014, 10:40:52
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 August 2014, 11:00:28
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: lhl on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:34:28
Wow, this looks fantastic, definitely interested, physical build looks close to perfect!

That being said, I'd definitely want to be able to customize the layout in a lot of ways (caps->ctrl or fn, windows key to fn, being able to customize the fn layer). Programmable would be great, but firmware customizability would be even better.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:43:33
I would be in for one, sounds really cool. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Data on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:45:31
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life

But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:16:54
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life

But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:58:12
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life

But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

(https://i.imgur.com/9Uln5Uv.jpg)
In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:07:22
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life

But... how will I do Win+L and Win+R?   :-[

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Uln5Uv.jpg)

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Exactly. I just two hand most win combos now. No problem really, left hand is always over there anyway. :P
[Hoff I keep finding we have more and more similar keyboard tastes.]
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Data on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:11:36
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Uln5Uv.jpg)

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:31:31
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Uln5Uv.jpg)

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.

I'm sorry, four key combo? It's still just win+r.
I'm saying remove the superfluous 1.25 mods [right win, right ctrl, right alt]
I wrote (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN) to mean your last 1.5 mod could be whatever you wanted.
On a tkl you don't need FN.
As Hoff pointed out, r-Alt and r-Ctrl are nearly useless.
And I personally don't use the menu key, but some people might.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 August 2014, 19:59:47
I like this.  I would buy one.

Not a fan of the modifier layout and sizing though.  I'd much rather see a 1x left win or the option to omit that entirely, shift the spacebar over, and have another function key on the right.  But that's just me.

THIS!

1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1 for life
Ditto!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Data on Fri, 15 August 2014, 08:05:57
Have one of them as a hidden windows key! CTRL ALT space WIN (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN)
Your keyboard has never looked prettier! [I use win+E all the time, R, didn't know about L!]

So you're saying I should trade a 2-key combo for a 4-key combo?

You're not a big fan of efficiency I take it?  ;D

I have never found a need for right ctrl or right alt to exist, so I would make one of those an fn key and the other the win key.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Uln5Uv.jpg)

In the above, hyper would be win and code would be fn. 

It makes win+E a bit more awkward, but I'm okay with that.

Yeah, maybe.  I don't really use the R-Alt or R-Ctrl.  Would make Win+L a lot easier, but shifts the hand acrobatics over to Win+R.  Not sure how I feel about two-handing a Win+R combination.  I'd have to try it.

I'm sorry, four key combo? It's still just win+r.
I'm saying remove the superfluous 1.25 mods [right win, right ctrl, right alt]
I wrote (CTRL/ALT/MENU/FN) to mean your last 1.5 mod could be whatever you wanted.
On a tkl you don't need FN.
As Hoff pointed out, r-Alt and r-Ctrl are nearly useless.
And I personally don't use the menu key, but some people might.

OK, I totally misunderstood what you were suggesting.  When you said a hidden Windows key, I thought you were saying it could be the spacebar and Ctrl+Alt+Space would simulate the Win key.  That would make Win+R (for example) a 4-key combo.   :confused:

Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 15 August 2014, 09:17:02
This is pretty awesome. I'm not a big MX fan but I might get one of these anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:07:45
I am relieved to see that it is a 68key.

Please continue making small keyboards, Feng.

As long as it doesn't offer enough keys (functionality) for me, I will not spend my $300. Whew.

otherwise the design features are too awesome to miss. I'd be overspending as usual...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: inanis on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:31:44
I almost can't imagine spending that much on a keyboard, but then I read the description again, and I can't imagine not getting this. Consider me very interested. I've been looking for a 60%-ish layout + arrow keys that is both aesthetically appealing and customizable. You are making all my dreams come true.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: epicepee on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:37:48
Does anybody happen to know how these hot-swappable switches work?  Some kind of female header, I assume.  I'm looking to build a keyboard, and I might want to try that.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:19:55
Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:28:25

Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?

Feng mentioned if it works out with massdrop a GB could start in approx 3 weeks. Hopefully that happens!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:50:13

Sorry, just a little bump,
do we have a timeline for this buy?

Feng mentioned if it works out with massdrop a GB could start in approx 3 weeks. Hopefully that happens!

Yeah I was hoping for a little update on this. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Hanni on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:34:38
Great work.  :thumb:
The most difficult is to find a reason to get one. :D The price without switches could be one reason.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: OPs_Creepy_Uncle on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:45:51
Would buy!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Binge on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:47:01
I'd have to say yes, yes I would buy this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:49:30
Feng, I forget, did that tentative price of $300 include any switches? Or just a kit?

Also, it needs to be a nice purple. If any color has to be included, definitely purple :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:56:54
Support for 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1 bottom row. I beg you!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: dakuzo on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:00:14
Time to start saving funds for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Emmiya on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:25:49
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Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:32:25
I like this board a lot, the keyboard layout works fine for me too.

Lots of great features, can't find one really sore spot about it. Interested in seeing what colors are available, and by that what I really mean is I hope black/red is an option :D (or bronze)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ruiner17 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:07:55
I'm in.
+ Love the layout, exactly what I have been looking for.
+ Love the hot swapping

Only issue I can see is the Fn switch when using a wrist rest which I do.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Heliosphere on Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:32:32
Can I use plate mount switches on these or would I need PCB mount?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: miled on Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:36:26
Absolutely stunning design, and a 60% layout that is both sensible, familiar and useful for those who rely heavily on home, end, delete and arrow keys. This is the best 60% board I've ever seen and I want one now, gorramit!

Would love a PCB mount version with a PCB flush case, and the ability to use 1.25x modifiers on the left so as to have room for 3 1x modifiers on the right with a standard size spacebar. Otherwise this is perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: bazh on Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:48:15
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: RED-404 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:01:35
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(

Yeah, I would love to see this PCB in a Poker compatible form factor ready to go. Just add your own case, plate, switches and keycaps, no soldering needed.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: bazh on Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:07:53
along with alu, carbon fiber is doing good job adding the cost :(

Yeah, I would love to see this PCB in a Poker compatible form factor ready to go. Just add your own case, plate, switches and keycaps, no soldering needed.

I think the key of solder-free pcb is these little guys, shouldn't be hard if we had anybody doing this in GB so we could buy and put into our own keyboard (we already had hot-swapable led now, just the sw pin that need making)

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61714.0;attach=74304;image)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: byker on Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:33:29
Wow this is really cool! Might have to save up for yet another keyboard!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 18 August 2014, 02:53:17
Now that's a sexy keyboard.

Which controller?
ISO?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: MrChunky on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:03:38
Yes, yes and yes! Everything I have been missing is now here!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:31:00
Any chance for ISO support?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Clydae on Mon, 18 August 2014, 03:55:42
This is beautiful! Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: slapstick on Mon, 18 August 2014, 04:05:47
This is something I'd definitely be interested in, regardless of the layout.  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: rayuki on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:46:12
have been afk from geekhack for a while (buying wise)  but this would bring me back for sure. can't wait to try a rainbow of switches. count me in for sure
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: mikochu on Mon, 18 August 2014, 06:47:32
My interest is piqued.  What's the expected timeline for production?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: patchworks on Mon, 18 August 2014, 08:24:12
definitely interested
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: johnhamelink on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:15:58
Just saw this on Reddit - I'm interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: salcan on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:26:46
I'm interested. Looks incredible.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Elocutive on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:44:18
Down for one or two. Really like the idea
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:07:52
I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: bazh on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:32:52
I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.

This.

I think the point of using carbon fiber in products is the weight it can save, but using it with an alu housing, I don't see why
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: uberknarf on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:44:18
I'm in. Love the look of this. I just couldn't jump into a 60% board without my arrow keys, particularly with the steep learning curve. This tackles that problem, and tacks on the incredible option of hotswappable switches and LEDs.

Absolutely bomber.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: argcargv on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:52:43
wow. I will get one for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:59:27
Definitely interested.   :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: jsmonet on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:04:39
Alright, post the buy link already

frytakemymoney.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:39:43

I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.

This.

I think the point of using carbon fiber in products is the weight it can save, but using it with an alu housing, I don't see why

I think there are two good reasons for it.
1-I don't think we've seen a carbon fiber plate
2-I think it looks pretty awesome

Perhaps there is also something to do with the actual hot swapping?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Heliosphere on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:52:01
I think there are two good reasons for it.
1-I don't think we've seen a carbon fiber plate
2-I think it looks pretty awesome
That's exactly my thought. I like it. I doubt it's a huge difference between machining aluminum anyway, and it's worth trying out.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: flopix on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:07:46
Want one too. Will have to sell my soul most likely tho :-)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: onishima on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:22:03
100% in for this. Awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:24:03
feng plz let us bai it
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:45:26
I love the layout and the overall concept. I don't understand why carbon fiber... but still very interesting project.
To justify the price
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Heliosphere on Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:27:29
Do you have an estimate of when we can expect a GB to happen, Feng?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:30:37
Do you have an estimate of when we can expect a GB to happen, Feng?



Any idea how long till a GB would be possible to start?

I'm still working on it. I think I'll let Massdrop handle this group buy since the factory requires 100 pcs MOQ and it's hard for me to make it happen on my own. If everything goes well, we might be able to see the group buy starting in 3 weeks.

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: sorryboss on Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:43:30
I am the keenest bean. The delete key is finally in a logical spot!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:49:51
a full keyboard with a aluminum case and removable switches & Leds for $300? Interested. What Controller?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Ouro on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:02:11
How soon can I give you the money?

I WANT THISSSSSSS
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Cods on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:16:24
Very, very interested!
Now, given my FC660M with Greens turned up yesterday, need to make the finances work...

For sale: one hardly used Leopold FC660C Topre 45g uniform keyboard, grey on black, AU. Nothing wrong with it, Topre just isn't my thing.
For sale: one barely used Leopold FC660M with MX Clears, white on white, AU. Nothing wrong with it, I just worked out that I'm all about the click and heavy switches, so it's out with the Clears and in with the Greens.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ninjadoc on Mon, 18 August 2014, 18:16:30
Interested
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 18 August 2014, 18:50:48
Definitely interested in getting this if it comes out!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: nonsensebearer on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:11:24
Definitely in for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:17:34
WOW, so down for one!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:23:41
Saw this from reddit, made an account just to express my interest for this keyboard  ;D.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: archer on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:27:59
I'm definitely in for one of these! Wow
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: cheneric on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:57:52
I would be interested in a 100% and a 60%. I would very much prefer standard layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: killaken2000 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:01:38
Looks really promising. I really like the layout. Keep us posted with more information.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: bahamot on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:34:20
Interested on this, only if not through massdrop.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: sorryboss on Mon, 18 August 2014, 21:39:19
Interested on this, only if not through massdrop.

You don't like massdrop? Why not?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Chungas on Mon, 18 August 2014, 22:41:11
Definitely interested in this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 August 2014, 23:41:32
Interested on this, only if not through massdrop.

You don't like massdrop? Why not?

There is a slew of MD hearsay going around right now because a handful of people have gotten bad service.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 18 August 2014, 23:43:14
I just bought a lightsaver v1 so my wallet is empty  :( but I would consider selling it for this :thumb: but it also depends on how when the gb starts
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 August 2014, 23:51:28
I just bought a lightsaver v1 so my wallet is empty  :( but I would consider selling it for this :thumb: but it also depends on how when the gb starts

someone should sell me their V2 so that they can buy this. >.>
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: skcheng on Wed, 20 August 2014, 06:43:26
Any ETA on this board?   I'd like two please!!   Also, I'm guessing that this board will require new MX switches?   I love Carbon Fiber.   Any chance of a Carbon Fiber case?   Or titanium??
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: archer on Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:49:08
Any ETA on this board?   I'd like two please!!   Also, I'm guessing that this board will require new MX switches?   I love Carbon Fiber.   Any chance of a Carbon Fiber case?   Or titanium??
^I like how he thinks

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Hazel on Wed, 20 August 2014, 16:52:53
I am intrigued, but before I bite I would need a better definition of "fully programmable." Are we talking Fn/Pn/macro programming?  Or full firmware flashing (eg, non-qwerty layouts, custom layers, etc)?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 20 August 2014, 22:55:05
I am intrigued, but before I bite I would need a better definition of "fully programmable." Are we talking Fn/Pn/macro programming?  Or full firmware flashing (eg, non-qwerty layouts, custom layers, etc)?

I personally assumed the latter but would be good to get a confirmation on that! xD
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 21 August 2014, 02:33:24
it will probably be programmable with one of those windows-only GUI that Koreans like so much.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 21 August 2014, 05:46:08
it will probably be programmable with one of those windows-only GUI that Koreans like so much.

Those things are awful. 
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 09:26:03
Thinking about the Fn key location (on a lateral aspect), it makes more sense where it is now, than the supposedly aesthetically balanced position aligned to the spacebar. Alignment vs symmetry to the case.

The left thumb rests within the left side of the spacebar, and the right thumb will require more reach than the , key when reaching the far top right hand corner of the keyboard. Aesthetics aside, the functionality of its location is where its beauty is at.

On another thought, I would still much prefer to have the option to move the fn key to the normal switches. Using a wrist rest would make the current side FN a difficult button to reach!


The video showing the switch insertion, keycap removal and fn key pressing, seems to suggest that the fn key is lighter than a conventional tactile mouse switch, more more like a longer throw microswitch?? If you had pictures of the actual switch used, or its implementation, it would be nice.
Secondly, the video shows a case that has 4 rubber feet, and no extendable legs.


I am waiting for this board to become reality! I want two right now :(  (and I have put off buying any more 60% boards in expectation of this one becoming real)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 21 August 2014, 09:41:21
With being able to hotswap switches and change the layout on the fly I'm only assuming that
you will be able to flash the firmware. If not, it would be fairly pointless.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: shimmy1996 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 19:14:47
Carbon fiber look LEGIT!
I'm very interestedXDD
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:49:44
Very interesting board. Will keep an eye on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:05:08
I'm in for one of these!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: missalaire on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:28:49
Any chance we can get other options besides carbon fiber for the plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Manchias on Sat, 23 August 2014, 01:16:45
I'm totally interested. Can't wait for it
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Sat, 23 August 2014, 08:09:21
Any chance we can get other options besides carbon fiber for the plate?

+1 to this! It would be nice if I could get like a dark grey or white plate in there!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 23 August 2014, 10:13:22
Definitely interested on picking one of these babies up
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Sun, 24 August 2014, 04:36:14

What are the color options? Would love something more than the typical black, red, grey or silver. Would love some more vibrant options.

We don't know yet what colors wil be available. I hope there're more vibrant options too. Like blue, purple, orange, green? :D

Any of those would be awesome! Very excited for this!

Any idea how long till a GB would be possible to start?

I'm still working on it. I think I'll let Massdrop handle this group buy since the factory requires 100 pcs MOQ and it's hard for me to make it happen on my own. If everything goes well, we might be able to see the group buy starting in 3 weeks.

How accurate is this at the moment? Is it looking likely that a GB of this be released this week on massdrop? Because I can't wait any longer for this  ;D 
 
Also a few questions.
1. Are there any plans to sell the carbon fibre plate separately? (thinking of getting an extra plate depending on price/ shipping cost)
2. What's the situation with the case? Will there be choice of different colored cases?
3. Following question 2, will there be different colored choices for the FN button
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: nukec on Sun, 24 August 2014, 05:10:47
This looks absolutely stunning, but I might pass this for HHKB . Or not? Damn it. :-\
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: korrelate on Mon, 25 August 2014, 14:41:13
Very interesting board. Lots to like here from a design perspective: clean lines on the case, carbon fiber.... Carbon Fiber!! I'm drooling all over my keyboard.  :p


Cheers,

K
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:51:26
getting PUMPED
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Hanni on Wed, 27 August 2014, 08:22:14
Im going to purchase the granite set v2, i'd like to know if its possible to use it with this keyboard plz ?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: dakuzo on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:48:50
Im going to purchase the granite set v2, i'd like to know if its possible to use it with this keyboard plz ?

Yea the granite v2 set should work fine, any dsa profile keycap set will look fine with this board's layout options. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: inanis on Wed, 27 August 2014, 10:01:25
Im going to purchase the granite set v2, i'd like to know if its possible to use it with this keyboard plz ?
Just be aware of that 1.75u right shift. You'll need the Pro Modifiers Pack for that key.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Hanni on Wed, 27 August 2014, 10:05:32
Just be aware of that 1.75u right shift. You'll need the Pro Modifiers Pack for that key.
Yea the granite v2 set should work fine, any dsa profile keycap set will look fine with this board's layout options. :thumb:
Thank you mates :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 27 August 2014, 11:38:48
When is this going to be on massdrop? Was there a date set?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: inanis on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:13:10
When is this going to be on massdrop? Was there a date set?

Wondering the same myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 28 August 2014, 00:29:28
Haven't heard from Feng since page 2 of this thread. I'm sure he will update us at some stage.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: feng on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:24:02
Still trying to get things work with Massdrop. But I don't know for sure yet. They need a sample first before doing the group buy, but we won't be able to get a sample until the next round of production is done in at least 1-2 months. If they can't do the group buy without a sample, I will consider running a GB here on GH for the first round.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: dakuzo on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:59:53
Still trying to get things work with Massdrop. But I don't know for sure yet. They need a sample first before doing the group buy, but we won't be able to get a sample until the next round of production is done in at least 1-2 months. If they can't do the group buy without a sample, I will consider running a GB here on GH for the first round.

Still interested in this board no matter which route you choose to run the group buy through  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: SurgeonKyle on Thu, 28 August 2014, 19:58:14
Oh wow, this looks absolutely stunning. Count me extremely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 29 August 2014, 16:23:19
Any ETA for a round 1 no matter where it's done?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Fri, 29 August 2014, 23:34:24
Not sure if it helps the cause for round 1, but I have started a poll on MD to help gather votes to promote the keyboard on MD, and help them realise how awesome this keyboard is, and that they need to make it work!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 29 August 2014, 23:50:46
Not sure if it helps the cause for round 1, but I have started a poll on MD to help gather votes to promote the keyboard on MD, and help them realise how awesome this keyboard is, and that they need to make it work!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys

Voted!
I really want to see this happen! My body is ready for the Smart 68
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 29 August 2014, 23:52:28

Still trying to get things work with Massdrop. But I don't know for sure yet. They need a sample first before doing the group buy, but we won't be able to get a sample until the next round of production is done in at least 1-2 months. If they can't do the group buy without a sample, I will consider running a GB here on GH for the first round.

If you need any help I'm sure you could find some good folks to help too. Interest is peeked now, two months and I can't even say I would buy one then.

I'd love to try and get this pushed out in the next month.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Sat, 30 August 2014, 00:18:25
Hey feng, if this keyboard is successful would you ever consider making a numpad with hot swappable capabilities?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: dakuzo on Sat, 30 August 2014, 00:20:36
Not sure if it helps the cause for round 1, but I have started a poll on MD to help gather votes to promote the keyboard on MD, and help them realise how awesome this keyboard is, and that they need to make it work!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys

Voted!
I really want to see this happen! My body is ready for the Smart 68

Also submitted my vote!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 30 August 2014, 12:36:10
submitted my vote, is that all GHers? or isi there a bunch of MD people voting too? 130/170 lol
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: fog on Sat, 30 August 2014, 12:39:30
This is so close to my ideal keyboard. Total upvote on massdrop. Can't wait to see this happen.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Sat, 30 August 2014, 16:47:30
submitted my vote, is that all GHers? or isi there a bunch of MD people voting too? 130/170 lol

I posted a link to /r/mechanicalkeyboards  so it wouldn't be all GHers
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Tue, 02 September 2014, 03:49:59
I don't know how much any of you frequent /r/mechanicalkeyboards on reddit but someone posted this album (http://imgur.com/a/P3goa#0) on the smart 68. He go it from DeeLonG's post here (http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7581&extra=&page=1) which you need an account to be able to see.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Tue, 02 September 2014, 04:34:26
Omg, that answers many questions! Thanks for the link!

Much excitement! Which colour... Black, Grey, and silver. That grey looks sooo good, but then on a white keyset, a silver case would look great! Black I thought was the safest choice, but that grey looks amazeballs :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Tue, 02 September 2014, 04:37:14
Omg, that answers many questions! Thanks for the link!

Much excitement! Which colour... Black, Grey, and silver. That grey looks sooo good, but then on a white keyset, a silver case would look great! Black I thought was the safest choice, but that grey looks amazeballs :blank:

Just get all 3! I mean the switches and LEDs are able to be changed whenever you want, why shouldn't the case be aswell?  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: okwchin on Tue, 02 September 2014, 04:40:07
Hahahaha... I think I am already mentally preparing to buy all three....

Interesting to note - MicroUSB - I will need to be getting more cables or change it to miniUSB, but I think the pads are not compatible?
Also trying to work out what the round hole in the case is, under the space bar. Access to the PCB for something...


A BIG question that remains unanswered, is - Can the FN be re-programmed to any other key?

And will there be a different bottom row layout options?

I personally would Love to see the following, but I would imagine that there would not be much demand for it. As a OSX user, the following wolud be nice...

1-1-1-1.25-6.25-1-1-1-1-1
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: rioc on Tue, 02 September 2014, 08:50:35
Please tell me there's gonna be an ISO layout version that the rest of the world can use and not only ANSI? *hoping*
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 02 September 2014, 17:12:31
Bottom row and function key remapping info are important to me too.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Jixr on Thu, 04 September 2014, 11:57:49
I just want the post inserts so we can make our own keyboards hot swappable.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 07 September 2014, 17:31:04
I don't know if this was answered, but...

Can the 2x backspace be eliminated completely? In the corner, instead of [2x, 1x] or [1x, 2x], can it be setup as [1x, 1x, 1x]?

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 08 September 2014, 00:51:51
Great job, the carbon fiber and the Fn ! Super cool! Awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 08 September 2014, 02:51:24
Before I found this site I had the urge for a keyboard where you could change out the switches without soldiering. Its like you knew exactly what I was looking for before I knew I wanted it.

Voted for on Massdrop, and would happily sacrifice $300 for it.

TAKE MY MONEY.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 08 September 2014, 05:58:08
I didn't know there was a vote on mass drop.

I can't find it.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 08 September 2014, 07:00:21
I didn't know there was a vote on mass drop.

I can't find it.

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: moukimokyu on Mon, 08 September 2014, 09:01:52
I love this concept and I voted for it on Massdrop, but if a group buy happens soon-ish (the next couple of months or so) it's going to be out of my reach budget-wise. I'd be all in for a second round a little later on though, for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 08 September 2014, 10:24:55
I love this concept and I voted for it on Massdrop, but if a group buy happens soon-ish (the next couple of months or so) it's going to be out of my reach budget-wise. I'd be all in for a second round a little later on though, for sure.

Unfortunately after everything I've said I'm probably in the same situation with school expenses xD
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: ph3nomzlol on Mon, 08 September 2014, 22:01:44
My body and wallet are ready  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 09 September 2014, 03:52:05
Hot Swapping LEDs (http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0423/v/swf/loader.swf?VideoIDS=XNzc3NjQ1MjYw&embedid=OTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz&wd=&vext=pid%3D%26emb%3DOTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz%26bc%3D%26type%3D0)

Pretty cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: quene on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:40:18
I want this!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Sat, 13 September 2014, 02:12:33
Is this still taking orders? and what's the status on it?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: deci on Sat, 13 September 2014, 04:02:09
Wow hot swappable switches and LEDs?

Definitely need one of these.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 13 September 2014, 10:50:31
Is this still taking orders? and what's the status on it?

Hasn't even started taking orders.
We're all holding our breaths.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 13 September 2014, 12:34:34
Hot swap leds! What!? That's cray cray!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 12:24:23
Hot swappable LEDs, but I wonder how the current to the LED is managed. In a conventional voltage controlled output we need different resistors for different voltage drop LEDs otherwise brightness will not be appropriately matched.

For a given resistance, a red LED will be over drive, while a white one might be very dim if it lights up at all. Unless it has a constant current drive, or a swappable resistor too.

I'm just speculating here too, lets see how it pans out when it happens :)

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: lwls on Sun, 14 September 2014, 17:56:49
I'm interested. I said to myself that I would stop after buying the HHKB Type-S... Here we go again.

Question: are Costar stabs a possibility?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Moralless on Sun, 14 September 2014, 19:44:53
Hot swappable LEDs, but I wonder how the current to the LED is managed. In a conventional voltage controlled output we need different resistors for different voltage drop LEDs otherwise brightness will not be appropriately matched.

For a given resistance, a red LED will be over drive, while a white one might be very dim if it lights up at all. Unless it has a constant current drive, or a swappable resistor too.

I'm just speculating here too, lets see how it pans out when it happens :)


A video (http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0423/v/swf/loader.swf?VideoIDS=XNzc3NjQ1MjYw&embedid=MTI0LjE3Ni4xMTguMTg1AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIv&wd=&vext=pid%3D%26emb%3DMTI0LjE3Ni4xMTguMTg1AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIv%26bc%3D%26type%3D0) has already been released showing the hot swappable leds in action.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 21:23:53
ooh.. thats promising! we don't see the leds being swapped between positions, but hey, I would love if it was that simple  :thumb:

And that double LED thing is cool! great for number row backlit keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:00:06
So was there an answer to if this was going to be a GB or done on MD?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Mon, 15 September 2014, 10:59:58
AFAIK, MD limitations are based on their need for working sample. As this board hasn't reached manufacturing yet, a sample was not possible according to feng, therefore its of higher likelihood that the first run is not going to be MD.

We just need to wait for news about where this is going. Either way… theres going to need to be a lot of money ready
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: honoka on Mon, 15 September 2014, 16:19:26
Question regarding ISO has not yet been answered. I'd like to know aswell.
Hugs
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: lwls on Mon, 15 September 2014, 18:30:42
After seeing this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41004.0) (which is really cool, seems like an old concept of this), I wonder: will this be Micro or Mini USB? I have a feeling most of us prefer Mini, but if Micro USB makes production easier, I guess it makes sense.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: beltet on Tue, 16 September 2014, 06:13:22
Would ISO compability become a feature I would be in on it.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: inanis on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:02:09
According to Andrew from MD, who posted yesterday in the Smart68 poll, they are working on getting the Group Buy up "soon". They are still waiting on a working sample to be sent in.

See the discussion here --> https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys)

Sounds promising that this will happen in the near future.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Tue, 16 September 2014, 19:26:19
The hype is real!

I hope everyone that voted is aware that this is essentially a keyboard "kit" and doesn't come with switches or keycaps. I know everyone from here would know, but wondering if all votes reflect that.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: deci on Tue, 16 September 2014, 20:22:10
The hype is real!

I hope everyone that voted is aware that this is essentially a keyboard "kit" and doesn't come with switches or keycaps. I know everyone from here would know, but wondering if all votes reflect that.

That's a good point. It would suck for them if someone if they didn't realize the Dolch doesn't come with it...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: dakuzo on Wed, 17 September 2014, 10:17:40
Is this still taking orders? and what's the status on it?

Hasn't even started taking orders.
We're all holding our breaths.

Been holding my breath long enough to decide it might be time to clear up my keyboard collection for this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Thu, 18 September 2014, 12:23:55
Yeah. I was thinking the same. This is the kind of keyboard that I could sell all my keyboards and just be happy with one. Meh. Please make. Please takkkkkeee money.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: argcargv on Fri, 19 September 2014, 11:09:51
I'm definitely getting this :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 19 September 2014, 17:25:16
A Leopold FC660 lookalike? I'm so in!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Sat, 20 September 2014, 06:41:30
But with the extra keys, and no bezel, to name the first visual differences  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 20 September 2014, 09:52:08
I don't think it's going to happen, but I like the version with legs.

I think the new version is designed to be at a preset angle.

Hopefully, the angle isn't too steep.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: dipswitch on Sat, 20 September 2014, 21:03:59
I'm also interested in this. Please have the GB  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Luminair on Thu, 25 September 2014, 05:01:58
Please post in this thread if you’re interested or you have any suggestions.

I love this design, as well as the Matias 60% design. Will this keyboard support the Matias switches? I'm not clear on that compatibility question yet.

I love how you use the previously-unused FRONT of the keyboard by the space bar. Ingenius and I think this may be copied more in the future, but it adds no volume but lots of functionality.

The aluminum looks amazing. It and the carbon fiber SEEM totally unnecessary, but also seem totally awesome.

I strongly suggest you apply your work to a higher-volume lower-cost version after this group buy. This synergy will allow you to make more money and gain more influence among the peasants. Soon we will all be chanting your song.  Don't let your work go to waste -- bring it to as many people as possible, but in a different way.

I have a question about keyboard technology which has probably been asked a million times on this forum. Since you've got fully custom firmware anyway, why can't you make the "Shift" key modify the PgUp+PgDn buttons into Home+End? Etc. I'm a newbie, but it seems strange to me to have modifiers already present on the keyboard (shift, ctrl, alt) and yet they're unused. If we're improving the old key layout, can't we improve the old modifiers too?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: limitz on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:20:49
We'll probably see more of these boards in the coming months.

The groupbuy just ended on the Chinese keyboard forum enjoyclick on 09/20 I believe.

GB thread here I believe:

http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7602&extra=page%3D1

My gf isn't around, and I'm on my work computer, so I can't easily translate the Chinese, so I'm not 100% sure that this is the GB thread. I think it is though.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 25 September 2014, 19:31:33
Which means we might be able to get a physical sample organised for the western mass drop at some stage in the not to distant future, I'm hoping…

Appears that the GB has 2 PCB options - with or without the hot swappable, and 2 different layout options for the CF plate. There were a few colour options, but I don't have an account, so I can't see the pictures that I would guess stipulate the differences.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 26 September 2014, 08:17:30
The price is very reasonable too. Basically exactly $200 USD, which for this board, is amazing.

Can't wait to see if anybody on here can get a physical sample to MassDrop, or possibility rerun the group buy here.

DeelonG did a great job on the board, and hopefully we can get him to run it over here as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: DzyDzyDino on Sat, 27 September 2014, 20:49:17
Yeah, this thing is so great. I come back to look at this every so often. Dream board. I'd sell off most of my boards and just have this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: feizor on Sat, 27 September 2014, 23:17:53
This board brings a lot of innovations that we haven't seen before. Definitely get a GB running here on GH.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 04 October 2014, 18:12:21
This will be the final board I will want to buy. Everything afterwards will be caps, leds, and switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 04 October 2014, 19:55:39
Is there any word on when this will be available?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:10:11
I think a gb of this just recently ended so perhaps massdrop will be able to run this GB once they get a sample product form the original GB
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Elocutive on Sun, 05 October 2014, 17:21:23
Will I need to solder at all to make a finished working version of one of these?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set
Post by: Moralless on Tue, 07 October 2014, 08:49:50
Still trying to get things work with Massdrop. But I don't know for sure yet. They need a sample first before doing the group buy, but we won't be able to get a sample until the next round of production is done in at least 1-2 months. If they can't do the group buy without a sample, I will consider running a GB here on GH for the first round.

How's the production of these keyboards going along, are you guys close to sending massdrop a sample? Or are you leaning towards a GH GB for R1.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tyvar1 on Fri, 10 October 2014, 15:57:14
Cool idea!  :thumb: voted in the Massdrop poll!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: munin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:57:50
Made an account just for this board.  any updates?  Also wondering how/ if anyone has an account on that foreign site with the pictures. I couldn't understand the questions they were asking lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: plc268 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:38:00
ooh.. thats promising! we don't see the leds being swapped between positions, but hey, I would love if it was that simple  :thumb:

And that double LED thing is cool! great for number row backlit keys.

I'm almost more interested in those double LEDs more than anything else. Would definitely solve the problem of having unlit numbers. I
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:22:28
I think this will be the last cherry switch keyboard I will want to buy. I hope it opens for GB soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: agbockus on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:23:41
I can't wait for this. I've been interested since this thread just started and I love it. I love it so much. Desperately waiting for a group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 20 October 2014, 02:13:53
is this really going to happen?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 20 October 2014, 06:02:48
is this really going to happen?

Certainly hope so as we need this weird, little keyboard  8) .
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 20 October 2014, 07:14:30
I would get it in a heart beat... but at this point I thought it was vapor-ware
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: limitz on Mon, 20 October 2014, 13:49:05
I would get it in a heart beat... but at this point I thought it was vapor-ware

It's already in production so definitely not vapor-ware.

I believe the GB ended last month on a chinese keyboard forum, I think I posted the link above.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 22 October 2014, 08:27:41
yes, I mean... for us poor little western countries
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: lwls on Wed, 22 October 2014, 08:36:35
Oww, this is hard... Now the TEX Yoda is on Massdrop, and I don't know when (or if) the GB for this board is coming...

Edit: this just in, the "next" Tex Yoda will be programmable. The Yoda will have to wait then.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 27 October 2014, 07:38:32
I would get it in a heart beat... but at this point I thought it was vapor-ware

It's already in production so definitely not vapor-ware.

I believe the GB ended last month on a chinese keyboard forum, I think I posted the link above.
Is there any update on that forum? Like pics or something. I'd love to see some more of those :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: pfrederi on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:29:50
I don't care where this drop happens, I just want it to happen...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:53:42
Ive been waiting for this board ignoring the other boards on md along with the vipers.

I keep hoping this drop will start soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 30 October 2014, 09:48:25
Ive been waiting for this board ignoring the other boards on md along with the vipers.

I keep hoping this drop will start soon.

In a way, it has saved a degree of wallet hack!  :thumb:



Although theres a growing fear that withdrawal symptoms might hit hard and one might end up splurging big time across the board (hah bad pun)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 08 November 2014, 10:21:35
Not sure if anyone saw or read this but MassDrop has been working on getting a GB started for the Smart68 but the factory that produced the Chinese group buy apparently doesn't exist anymore.

So.... there's more work to be done to get this in production for us outside of China...

Source: Lekashman
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 08 November 2014, 10:30:20
Not sure if anyone saw or read this but MassDrop has been working on getting a GB started for the Smart68 but the factory that produced the Chinese group buy apparently doesn't exist anymore.

So.... there's more work to be done to get this in production for us outside of China...

Source: Lekashman

That's a real shame to hear =(

I wonder what the biggest issues are for the production of this.

Is it the carbon fibre plate or the PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 08 November 2014, 10:48:29
Not sure if anyone saw or read this but MassDrop has been working on getting a GB started for the Smart68 but the factory that produced the Chinese group buy apparently doesn't exist anymore.

So.... there's more work to be done to get this in production for us outside of China...

Source: Lekashman

That's a real shame to hear =(

I wonder what the biggest issues are for the production of this.

Is it the carbon fibre plate or the PCB?

I believe it's neither.

Two main issues I see now...

They need to first get a sample of the keyboard sent to their offices in California (with the original factory out of the picture, this is not as simple as asking for a production sample). I doubt any of the buyers in the original GB would be willing to part with their keyboards for the sake of us not in the PRC.

The only way around this would be if the designer or Feng had a production sample and could ship it to MD.

I'm not sure if MD has managed to get a production sample yet but let's assume they have one right now.

Then they need to find a factory to actually produce the boards for a GB on MassDrop.

This essentially means, where two weeks ago, it was almost certain that a GB would happen soon in the US because there was a factory ready to produce the board (machinery and tooling and logistics ready to go to production), there is no such factory now and so that takes the GB back a few steps.

This keyboard looks so promising but in my opinion it might be doubtful that a drop would happen for us as soon as we had originally anticipated.

There's that and the fact that MassDrop now has the Infinity Keyboard to build upon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Sat, 08 November 2014, 12:58:50
Sucks that this has hit some pretty significant production snags.  I hope it still makes it to market eventually.  It seems there's more than enough interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 08 November 2014, 18:38:30
I see this as an upside. Allows my wallet to recover. 
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 08 November 2014, 18:41:11
I see this as an upside. Allows my wallet to recover.
Or it will lead you to consider other alternatives and when this drop comes around, your wallet will be even more emaciated!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tyvar1 on Sun, 09 November 2014, 02:22:30
I see this as an upside. Allows my wallet to recover.
This is geekhack your wallet will never recover!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 09 November 2014, 06:24:48
Not sure if anyone saw or read this but MassDrop has been working on getting a GB started for the Smart68 but the factory that produced the Chinese group buy apparently doesn't exist anymore.

So.... there's more work to be done to get this in production for us outside of China...

Source: Lekashman

Can't they get the tooling out of the original factory and move it somewhere else?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:24:00
Is there really any specific tooling involved? Excuse my naivety to manufacturing processes, but apart from the PCB and the aluminium CNC pattern, the only main part that could require less-standard tooling could be the brass inserts and its insertion process? (if there are any for the switches/LEDs)

Well heres hoping that its as simple as that, because I would imagine that the rest of the PCB should be fairly normal to manufacture, and the CNC case should also be manufacturable as per most cases that we already have. It's a matter of having access, limited or otherwise, to the design files.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Talfrey on Fri, 14 November 2014, 09:07:50
I would absolutely drop the cash for this.  Just tell me how.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: jrules on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:36:10
I am BEYOND interested in this. This is the perfect compromise between layout and portability. How can I give you my money?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:08:27
I would absolutely drop the cash for this.  Just tell me how.

I am BEYOND interested in this. This is the perfect compromise between layout and portability. How can I give you my money?

Suggest you read the previous page.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: jrules on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:06:22
That's incredibly disappointing, was hoping for something to hook up to a surface pro. Hopefully they resolve their issues.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tutuling on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:47:14
I was also considering this option.  Hopefully they can work something out with another vendor
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:16:32
I was also considering this option.  Hopefully they can work something out with another vendor
I believe this is what MassDrop is currently working on at this moment.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: dashing_girlboy on Sun, 16 November 2014, 02:36:05
let's just hope that massdrop is able to get another manufacturer at a lower price. a man can dream... :p
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 22 November 2014, 15:42:53
Just discovered this while browsing the Massdrop site. Extremely interesting keyboard. I hope that the project can go forward.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: pfrederi on Thu, 11 December 2014, 02:32:51
Would it be possible to do a group buy without Massdrop?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 11 December 2014, 08:05:27
I hope this project becomes available in a TKL form factor one day.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 11 December 2014, 15:03:37
Would it be possible to do a group buy without Massdrop?
Yes. Definitely possible.

But whoever ends up running the GB will have to comb through the countless electronics factories in China to find one that can produce the board for a price low enough that enough people will join to meet MOQ.   :-[

MD is our best bet at this point  :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: pfrederi on Thu, 11 December 2014, 20:36:36
Yes. Definitely possible.

But whoever ends up running the GB will have to comb through the countless electronics factories in China to find one that can produce the board for a price low enough that enough people will join to meet MOQ.   :-[

MD is our best bet at this point  :(

We just need to group buy a Chinese factory... Hmmmmm

Massdrop is busy trying to push their Infinity keyboard which may qualify as being one of the ugliest keyboards I've ever seen.

Bummer
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: nandop on Fri, 12 December 2014, 09:57:51
Yes. Definitely possible.

But whoever ends up running the GB will have to comb through the countless electronics factories in China to find one that can produce the board for a price low enough that enough people will join to meet MOQ.   :-[

MD is our best bet at this point  :(

We just need to group buy a Chinese factory... Hmmmmm

Massdrop is busy trying to push their Infinity keyboard which may qualify as being one of the ugliest keyboards I've ever seen.

Bummer

In terms of aesthetics, I absolutely agree with you. Through a business perspective, that metal plate that serves as the feet (in some layouts) is really genius for saving money and resources. But still, I didn't buy it and most likely won't unless its PCB only.

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 12 December 2014, 18:36:58
Yes. Definitely possible.

But whoever ends up running the GB will have to comb through the countless electronics factories in China to find one that can produce the board for a price low enough that enough people will join to meet MOQ.   :-[

MD is our best bet at this point  :(

We just need to group buy a Chinese factory... Hmmmmm

Massdrop is busy trying to push their Infinity keyboard which may qualify as being one of the ugliest keyboards I've ever seen.

Bummer

In terms of aesthetics, I absolutely agree with you. Through a business perspective, that metal plate that serves as the feet (in some layouts) is really genius for saving money and resources. But still, I didn't buy it and most likely won't unless its PCB only.

They offered just the PCB and normal plate to use with other cases in the initial group buy.

There was no need to buy the bent frame/case.

(https://d2qmzng4l690lq.cloudfront.net/resizer/3000x2000/r/MD-3673_20141027141218_507bf2071adf1ab3.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 December 2014, 02:20:16
I need one!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Digitize on Tue, 16 December 2014, 22:06:16
this keyboard is starting to grow on me. Just the idea of being able to swap switches or led in and out without soldering is really cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: PocoLoco on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:31:26
OMFG my dreams have come true tell me when i can buy this
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Joebroniee on Sat, 27 December 2014, 03:12:25
OMFG my dreams have come true tell me when i can buy this

it'll be a while my friend. just keep on praying
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: PocoLoco on Sat, 27 December 2014, 10:28:18
I know that it will be a while till we are able to get hold of this but maybe we will be lucky some day soon. I will be waiting for more news.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 07 January 2015, 22:31:50
is this till going to happen?
I'm holding my breath and might pass out soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: SacKRoll on Sat, 10 January 2015, 22:07:09
is this till going to happen?
I'm holding my breath and might pass out soon.

I think it isn't, but I hope be wrong about it.  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 26 January 2015, 16:55:46
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:08:29
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.

I'll help test!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:13:29
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.

I'll help test!  :D

Pretty sure the plane ticket to China wouldn't be worthwhile xD

I'll make sure to get one here myself if it works for testing.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Joebroniee on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:59:18
finally a little light of hope =D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Wed, 28 January 2015, 14:20:18
I need this In my life more then I need oxygen...don't you dare try to persuade me otherwise!!

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 28 January 2015, 14:47:54
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.
is the TKL version going to be a low-profile keyboard? I'm not a fan of low-profile cases, but really interested in hot swap PCB idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 29 January 2015, 05:26:04
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.

I am even more interested in a TKL version of this.

Please keep us updated!!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 29 January 2015, 06:00:00
I'm working with a manufacturer about a TKL.

They already produce keyboards so it would be more a modification off a current model. They're supposed to be testing the hotswapping right now.
is the TKL version going to be a low-profile keyboard? I'm not a fan of low-profile cases, but really interested in hot swap PCB idea.

No =[

I mean anything is possible with enough money I have to consider what will be the most popular without creating a whole new product (since that would require a new set of tools and such)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 29 January 2015, 07:31:53
It will also have the FN key on the front side?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 29 January 2015, 08:14:47
It will also have the FN key on the front side?

the one that I'm pursuing does not have a front side FN key. It's standard TKL with the main difference being the hot swapping switches
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 29 January 2015, 13:27:55
Also hot swapping leds?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Fri, 30 January 2015, 20:38:31
A TKL would certainly be interesting but what about the cost? I would expect it to go up as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 22:00:51
A TKL would certainly be interesting but what about the cost? I would expect it to go up as well.

From what I read so far, the manufacturer is testing hot swapping on one of their current models. So hopefully if they can streamline the entire group buy or w.e we could get the price down.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 31 January 2015, 14:24:52
Will there be a cnc aluminum case on the tkl?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 01 February 2015, 01:32:14
Will there be a cnc aluminum case on the tkl?

Unlikely.

As I mentioned before it's based off a current product that they manufacture.

Though the PCB should be standard TKL if you really want to transplant the PCB and such to an Alu case if you really wanted
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: justify on Sat, 07 February 2015, 07:44:43
is this still happening?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 09 February 2015, 11:55:13
The 68% is really the first compact idea that I've seen that I feel would be really usable for me (the 660 form factor is close, but just not quite there). As long as the controller on this is programmable (and hot swap switches/leds? WHAAAAAT?), I would buy this in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Blungo on Wed, 18 February 2015, 07:06:16
Where do I buy this?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Moralless on Wed, 18 February 2015, 07:42:03
Where do I buy this?

A GB for this keyboard never made it to GH (sadly  :'()

Although they did have a very limited run on some asian forum (I can't recall the name sorry). You're only chance to ever get this would probably if someone who was in the limited run GB decided to sell theirs, but that is very unlikely.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Rotaku on Thu, 19 February 2015, 08:03:21
Wait, what is exactly happening here that is stopping the group buy from happening?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Ripudio on Thu, 19 February 2015, 14:51:58
I believe the manufacturer went out of business :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 19 February 2015, 15:21:29
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys
Massdrop apparently is in the process of finding a new manufacturer and bringing this KB back to life. I don't think they've made any progress let alone put forth a significant amount of effort to do so though.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Asininity on Sat, 21 February 2015, 02:12:01
This is such a cool idea in my mind that I really do hope they find  a way to bring it back. I don't have the spare cash to afford it now but soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 02:13:43
This is such a cool idea in my mind that I really do hope they find  a way to bring it back. I don't have the spare cash to afford it now but soon.
Well, I think they did this just by using SIP sockets.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: xtazy222 on Sat, 21 February 2015, 03:40:47
So is it dead for the TKL version?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:27:53
Haven't heard anything since it supposedly went to prototyping.

They didn't charge me anything but just never got back to me. I'll see if I can get in touch with them at some point
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 04 March 2015, 12:59:26
Really sad, couldn't care less for a tkl really. The smart68 was something new and innovative.
Also, hot swap LEDs can be accomplished with SIP sockets, the switches use a special contact in the pcb that they can clip in to.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 04 March 2015, 16:14:47
Really sad, couldn't care less for a tkl really. The smart68 was something new and innovative.
Also, hot swap LEDs can be accomplished with SIP sockets, the switches use a special contact in the pcb that they can clip in to.

I agree the smart68 was something else. Still any keyboard with hotswappable switches is interesting to me.

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: feng on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:31:20
I might have to do this along with DeeLong. Massdrop says they don't have the confidence to do the group buy yet since it's a new product. They might consider in the future if a GB on GH goes well.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: bahamot on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:23:06
The keycap is the only thing that concern me.
How hard it's to get he keycaps set that fits this keyboard?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: derezzed on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:41:23
This is one of the most beautiful boards I've seen.  If I had the money, I'd be all over this when it becomes available.  But I do have reservations about the function bar.  I have large hands and I find it a bit awkward to put my thumbs on the side of my keyboard case and reach my fingers beyond the home row.  Still, it's a really nice board.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:43:52
The keycap is the only thing that concern me.
How hard it's to get he keycaps set that fits this keyboard?

Very easy, most new keysets have a short shift.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 12 March 2015, 00:19:42
I might have to do this along with DeeLong. Massdrop says they don't have the confidence to do the group buy yet since it's a new product. They might consider in the future if a GB on GH goes well.


Please make the Smart68 happen Feng. I have full faith in you!

This is one of the most beautiful boards I've seen.  If I had the money, I'd be all over this when it becomes available.  But I do have reservations about the function bar.  I have large hands and I find it a bit awkward to put my thumbs on the side of my keyboard case and reach my fingers beyond the home row.  Still, it's a really nice board.

You can also put a FN key on a regular switch.

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: bahamot on Thu, 12 March 2015, 01:44:55
I might have to do this along with DeeLong. Massdrop says they don't have the confidence to do the group buy yet since it's a new product. They might consider in the future if a GB on GH goes well.


Please make the Smart68 happen Feng. I have full faith in you!
+1 that!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: bahamot on Mon, 16 March 2015, 04:16:48
@feng, do we need to solder for the fn button at the side keyboard case?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 16 March 2015, 04:41:06
This needs to happen!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 16 March 2015, 13:55:46
Hopefully this ends up happening, such a cool concept.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:25:36
feng, what would be the chance to also have options for split left shift/enter/backspace ? even if this is not an option I am totally interested in this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: reaxas on Mon, 23 March 2015, 14:32:26
I would love one of these, VERY interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: slaction on Tue, 31 March 2015, 23:42:11
This would be like the perfect layout for me!  Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: bahamot on Fri, 03 April 2015, 03:25:25
Hi Feng,

Any chance this keyboard GB to be realised?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Tue, 07 April 2015, 21:26:40
Still waiting on this. I will not buy any more keyboards or keycaps for rest of the year until I get this. It has been hard to resist this past month but I did it.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: simonyunhe on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:23:57
This is really the keyboard i need, take my wallet. ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Rotaku on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:46:11
A friend of mine on reddit lives in taiwan and actually got one of these keyboards because his friend was a developer of the smart 68. I tried to get him to get me in contact with him but he wouldn't do it :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 08 April 2015, 09:31:36
Still waiting on this. I will not buy any more keyboards or keycaps for rest of the year until I get this. It has been hard to resist this past month but I did it.

You could be waiting a very long time, then.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 08 April 2015, 13:09:53
first time I've heard of this keyboard.. for someone like me with no soldering tools or skills this is gamechanging. hope this concept is adopted by other companies
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: t8c on Sun, 03 May 2015, 06:15:06
Any word on this? Looks so cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 03 May 2015, 10:19:32
I completely forgot about this but I have a theory or an idea of how to do this.
I'll drop the information here or somewhere else if I remember.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 00:02:03
So what happened to this thread? I want this keyboard  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: aznairjordan on Wed, 06 May 2015, 01:13:51
I'm interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 06 May 2015, 02:08:33
Quick message about this before i leave town again for work and won't have a computer.

My theory on how this works is with the use of something like this. https://www.mill-max.com/new_products/detail/2
Now obviously these need to be large enough to fit the switch pins but also small enough to fit the PCB holes, now these specific mill-max through hole sockets have a lip on this which i think is a good idea but leaves less room for tolerances as i think the fatter lip part should fit INTO the PCB holes to make the switch side of the PCB perfectly flush rather than having the lip sit above it, by having this lip here it'll hopefully leave a little crevice where solder can help make the connection between the PCB and socket.

Now this will also have to be plate mounted so that the switches will "lock" in place which makes it removable as well so the plate can't be thicker than 1.5mm or will have to have the lock points milled out like GON plates.

Unfortunately i don't have time to explain more but hopefully this is enough information for someone to work with and test since there's many people here smarter than i.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 23 May 2015, 20:56:05
Very interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 24 May 2015, 05:09:13
I'm surprised no one said anything about my comment, I guess everyone figured it out already.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: nuphor on Sun, 24 May 2015, 07:50:48
This looks great, very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Bull1919 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 20:01:22
Wow that looks great, would there be an option to possibly buy the pcb/plate seperately and what would the individual prices be? Asking because I'm too poor for the whole thing :P
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: VivaGardner on Fri, 19 June 2015, 00:20:19
Was there a group buy on this board?  Would love to purchase it.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Manchias on Thu, 09 July 2015, 03:24:08
Join for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: feng on Mon, 13 July 2015, 12:57:37
Fianlly, just confirmed with the producer, the group buy will be released mostly in August. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 13 July 2015, 13:02:05
Fianlly, just confirmed with the producer, the group buy will be released mostly in August. :)

Please don't be messing with us Feng!

HYPE!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ruiner17 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 13:10:14
Holy...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: limitz on Mon, 13 July 2015, 16:26:18
I'm definitely in. Can't wait for this to start.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Rotaku on Mon, 13 July 2015, 16:46:08
oh man, the hype is real. i'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 13 July 2015, 16:52:35
That's so soon!

Guess it's time to sell stuff =S
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 13 July 2015, 17:04:17
Definitely in, dead -> #Hype so quick.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 13 July 2015, 17:08:50
60% is neat, but I will definitely be in when there is a 75% :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: kernel on Mon, 13 July 2015, 17:58:43
how does the "hot-swap" led thingy works? why does it need no soldering?

explain it to me easily, i don't understand this too much.

thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Mon, 13 July 2015, 18:17:12
This is awesome and I'm definitely in for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: E3E on Mon, 13 July 2015, 19:53:29
how does the "hot-swap" led thingy works? why does it need no soldering?

explain it to me easily, i don't understand this too much.

thanks.

Socket connectors are used in the circuit board for the connections instead of soldering! Because sockets are used, that means you can change them at any time. The same applies to the MX switches with this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 20:24:38
I thought this wasn't going to happen.
Yay!
What a time to be alive!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Cameron on Mon, 13 July 2015, 22:27:15
Is the price still going to be $300?

Is there any way to get it any cheaper?
ie metal plate or something instead of carbon fibre option


Are the SIP sockets all included in the price of the kit?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: very1 on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:29:56
This looks spectacular. Is hotswappable MX switches a new thing? Why haven't I seen this before?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: uJalled on Wed, 15 July 2015, 18:47:25
this is so cool! and it's awesome that it has been confirmed
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: JinDesu on Wed, 15 July 2015, 18:55:18
Fianlly, just confirmed with the producer, the group buy will be released mostly in August. :)

I'm in Feng. Any way to put a mailing list or something so we can get updated?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: okwchin on Fri, 17 July 2015, 12:37:11
Yay, can't wait to see this happen for real this time :). Been waiting since the initial announcement!!

I bought way too many 60%'s since this came out, but there might be funds that can be reallocated from "food" to "keyboards".....


Make this happen!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Rotaku on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:12:18
Are we doing this by massdrop still?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: House on Sun, 19 July 2015, 12:36:08
Hello,

I'm a new member who was previously very interested in buying Pok3r but now this.  :p :eek:
Just curious if I buy this I would need to buy my own Cherry MX switches and LEDs as well as keycaps?

Can anyone confirm that installation or learning to put together a keyboard especially this one without soldering is not too complicated?
As in you just have to carefully place the right components into the right sockets?

Cheers All and can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 19 July 2015, 13:54:17
Too bad that the bottom row is non standard. Plus I'm not sure about the carbon fiber plate. I've only seen one group buy with carbon fiber plates
If you make the switches removable using sip sockets, how many insertions can they stand? I'm asking that because it seems that to remove on switch, you actually need to open completely the keyboard and detach all the switches?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: House on Sun, 19 July 2015, 14:17:05
Too bad that the bottom row is non standard. Plus I'm not sure about the carbon fiber plate. I've only seen one group buy with carbon fiber plates
If you make the switches removable using sip sockets, how many insertions can they stand? I'm asking that because it seems that to remove on switch, you actually need to open completely the keyboard and detach all the switches?
In addition, how secure are the LEDs and would it be a problem if they are lose and hit the bottom of keycaps to reduce their lifespan?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:48:06
I know from personal experience that the tilde key placement is hard to get used to, it messes hard with muscle memories, however, I'm still going to join :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Sun, 19 July 2015, 21:42:21
I definitely want in on this. Hopefully this is hosted through MassDrop.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: theanyday on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:00:56
Feng, is there any chance of ordering just the pcb?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ImBZppl on Mon, 20 July 2015, 20:20:29
Still waiting on this. I will not buy any more keyboards or keycaps for rest of the year until I get this. It has been hard to resist this past month but I did it.

You could be waiting a very long time, then.

Not that long of a wait  was it? ;D
My wallet is read, glad I skipped the pok3r now. :p
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Wed, 22 July 2015, 13:03:06
Still waiting on this. I will not buy any more keyboards or keycaps for rest of the year until I get this. It has been hard to resist this past month but I did it.

You could be waiting a very long time, then.

Not that long of a wait  was it? ;D
My wallet is read, glad I skipped the pok3r now. :p

Ate my words for lunch, thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Acerk on Wed, 22 July 2015, 17:31:16
As a guy who doesn't want to invest time into learning to solder, this project gives me hope for a custom TKL in the future. Would it be technically possible to sell these as sets that can be put into standard cases like Filco Majestouch, 60%, KMAC etc. without having to do any soldering?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 22 July 2015, 18:16:14
the firmware for this keyboard would need some serious debouncing logic tho

I sometimes use cables instead of switches to test pcb's, if the firmware doesn't handle debouncing well, a manual connection generally registers 4-5 characters
Since there is no solder involved with this keyboard, loose switches could cause the same issues
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: SuperBo on Thu, 23 July 2015, 04:36:54
I considered to buy RS84 as my first custom keyboard. But I meet this topic. I think I should go for this. But when will the group buy be available?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 26 July 2015, 07:36:17
It's alive? Oh wow.. And aluminum casing. Is this Korean custom or made in USA? :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 27 July 2015, 08:28:18
It's alive? Oh wow.. And aluminum casing. Is this Korean custom or made in USA? :)

I think it's actually a Chinese board, i know MartinYeah has one that he got from a small run on the Chinese forums.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: flipjsio on Mon, 27 July 2015, 11:46:51
Was there a review or something on that initial run of Smart68?

I think it's actually a Chinese board, i know MartinYeah has one that he got from a small run on the Chinese forums.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Mon, 27 July 2015, 12:21:03
Was there a review or something on that initial run of Smart68?

I think it's actually a Chinese board, i know MartinYeah has one that he got from a small run on the Chinese forums.

I found several references on the Chinese forum enjoyclick.org, including on their wiki here:  http://www.enjoyclick.org/wiki/SMART_68%E9%94%AE%E7%9B%98

But it looks like you can't view photos unless you log in.  There is one photo of the "Beta V1 Rabbit Special Version" from the wiki...

(http://i.imgur.com/NbiXsJa.jpg)

If you read Chinese, the user is DeeLonG.  It looks like this might be the original group buy thread:  www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=371&extra=page%3D1

Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: flipjsio on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:14:59
That doesn't look like a Smart68 keyboard like the images shown on the first page of this thread. Also, it doesn't have a Fn key on the side of spacebar. That spacebar too has non-standard size, 5.5u I think.

I found several references on the Chinese forum enjoyclick.org, including on their wiki here:  http://www.enjoyclick.org/wiki/SMART_68%E9%94%AE%E7%9B%98

But it looks like you can't view photos unless you log in.  There is one photo of the "Beta V1 Rabbit Special Version" from the wiki...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NbiXsJa.jpg)


If you read Chinese, the user is DeeLonG.  It looks like this might be the original group buy thread:  www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=371&extra=page%3D1
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:20:09
Its now August, and my body is ready for this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Nostril on Sat, 01 August 2015, 18:55:55
Wow that's great that the group buy is actually happening! I have been drooling over this one for a long while now!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: argcargv on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:28:47
is this really happening? where is the order form?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:35:01
:O Liking the hotswap.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: genkidama on Fri, 07 August 2015, 09:11:15
Quick Question:
Is it possible to program the smart68 into an ISO version? Or is it possible to have ISO out of the box?
What about transportability? This is so perfect to take it with you, will the hot swapple switches and LEDs take any damage whatsoever if put into a normal case in your bag?
What about ordering just specific parts of this board? Like only the PCB or no casing/no carbon fibre and stuff?
Is it possible to get the PCB schematics? Like the GH60 rev.c when it finally gets shipped?

I'm really so into this, but this kind of pricetag just kills me everytime I look it up  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: 27 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 10:38:02
The wait is torture... Let me throw my money at you!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Zorox on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:59:20
I hope there will be ISO option in this GB. Already saved up my money for this :x
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Sun, 09 August 2015, 23:45:26
Any new news on this Feng?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:52:31
any chances for different layouts?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 23:05:18
I told myself no more keyboards.

I said my fc660c 55g modded was it.

I will have to change my mind if this gb happens.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:22:24
This is the first custom board I might get so I'm still quite inexperienced with boards I have to assemble myself. Because of this I have two questions:

Do I basically only need switches and keycaps (and maybe LED's) or is there something else I will need? And is there any soldering left for me to do or is it just plugging and screwing together stuff?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:54:53
If I remember correctly it should be plugging/screwing it together. Switches, LEDs and stuff can be plugged in without soldering as you can see in the video in the first post.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:43:25
If I remember correctly it should be plugging/screwing it together. Switches, LEDs and stuff can be plugged in without soldering as you can see in the video in the first post.

Ok thats reassuring :) Just don't wanted to get surprised badly. Now its time to think about switches and caps for me. Hopefully the buy will go live soon, really excited!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: donpark on Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:22:06
this is too cool to pass up!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:49:10
There was a link here to a imgur album with pictures from the chinese GB last year. That link is now dead. Does anyone have a mirror?

Also, is there any hope of getting the Massdrop buy to include an optional LED set? Obviously listing every type of switch or keycap is useless, but just a good multicolor or even just white LED set?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 21:36:02
will the be running through massdrop?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 18 August 2015, 23:27:41
will the be running through massdrop?

I sure as hell hope not! I'm fairly certain feng will run this himself. He is fairly busy as he just received the keys from his GMK Cyan GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:37:58
will the be running through massdrop?

I sure as hell hope not! I'm fairly certain feng will run this himself. He is fairly busy as he just received the keys from his GMK Cyan GB.

I think he stated earlier in this thread that it will be through Massdrop.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:59:48
Was he really sure? I only know of a vote poll at massdrop with this board and a link to this thread. But it seemed more like he would like to do it through massdrop but there is no word yet. Or something like that.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:08:35
I might have to do this along with DeeLong. Massdrop says they don't have the confidence to do the group buy yet since it's a new product. They might consider in the future if a GB on GH goes well.

Here you go guys and gals. He also said he would run this GB in August so we still have some time.

Massdrop isn't great and it showed recently with the TA buy.  I really don't want to see them running something like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 11:10:08
I might have to do this along with DeeLong. Massdrop says they don't have the confidence to do the group buy yet since it's a new product. They might consider in the future if a GB on GH goes well.

Here you go guys and gals. He also said he would run this GB in August so we still have some time.

Massdrop isn't great and it showed recently with the TA buy.  I really don't want to see them running something like this.

Excuse the dumb question but what would be the difference in a Massdrop group buy compared to one that is run somewhere else? As someone who never participated in something like this I'm really curious! I only saw some of the shipping problems with some MD stuff on reddit, is there another upside on a group buy run via GH?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:51:24
It's far better to use MassDrop. They're a company with a reputation beyond these forums and a vested interest in keeping their customers happy. Obviously I'm new here, and you guys might have excellent experiences with Feng, but to me he's just an anonymous user on an internet forum who, if this happens, wants me to send him 300 USD plus postage, without giving me any guarantee that I get anything in return.

Ask yourselves, would you trust me with your 300 USD, or would you prefer Massdrop?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: inanis on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:57:11
It's far better to use MassDrop. They're a company with a reputation beyond these forums and a vested interest in keeping their customers happy. Obviously I'm new here, and you guys might have excellent experiences with Feng, but to me he's just an anonymous user on an internet forum who, if this happens, wants me to send him 300 USD plus postage, without giving me any guarantee that I get anything in return.

Ask yourselves, would you trust me with your 300 USD, or would you prefer Massdrop?

Would I trust you, no, but that is because I don't know you. And I don't mean that as any kind of knock against you. Would I trust Feng? Yes. In fact, I'd much prefer this be run on GH than on MD. MD says they are all about community, but in practice they are more about business. I'm not saying that isn't their right, or that they are doing something wrong. I'm just saying that I think there is real benefit to having a real community focused group buy. I'd love to see this go through without MD involvement.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:18:20
Right. So if everyone who wants to buy this keyboard knows and trusts Feng, that's not a problem. But do you really think that's the case?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: inanis on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:21:38
Right. So if everyone who wants to buy this keyboard knows and trusts Feng, that's not a problem. But do you really think that's the case?

No, I don't. I'm okay with that. Sometimes you gotta take a little risk. If that is too much for someone, and I understand that it very well may be, that is unfortunate for them, cause this could be something great. I don't mean to be dismissive, because I do understand what you are saying. However, if there is a feeling it won't meet MOQ without MD, then certainly MD is a viable and good solution. But if it can be done without that platform then I think it should be.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:25:42
In the end each buyer will have to decide for themselves. And in a forum such as this, if Feng was dodgy everyone would know it. But I think Massdrop is a far better option for most GBs. If MD said no, which it seems like it did, then that obviously changes things, but I still like MD.

Of course, if there were more GB sites out there so that MD got some competition, that would be even better. Free market and all that capitalist propaganda ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:35:17
In the end each buyer will have to decide for themselves. And in a forum such as this, if Feng was dodgy everyone would know it. But I think Massdrop is a far better option for most GBs. If MD said no, which it seems like it did, then that obviously changes things, but I still like MD.

Of course, if there were more GB sites out there so that MD got some competition, that would be even better. Free market and all that capitalist propaganda ;)

If you're curious, here's feng's eBay account: http://www.ebay.com/usr/geek_feng

I know feng's reputation is only part of the discussion here, but just so you can familiarize yourself with him.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:07:41
I'd love to see this go through without MD involvement.

Same.  They have really done a piss poor job listening to the keyboard community lately.

@tofgerl - Nobody's forcing you to join the group buy.  If you have a problem you're welcome to wait on Massdrop for a (possible) Round 2.  It takes some big ****ing balls to come on here and your first post is questioning the reputation of a long-time member.  WTF dude?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:31:39
@tofgerl - Nobody's forcing you to join the group buy.  If you have a problem you're welcome to wait on Massdrop for a (possible) Round 2.  It takes some big ****ing balls to come on here and your first post is questioning the reputation of a long-time member.  WTF dude?

Heyyy, whoa whoa.  No need to get hostile with a newbie asking perfectly fair questions.  When I was new I was hesitant to send hundreds of dollars to someone I just met on the internet.  It's a perfectly natural concern.  We know feng's reputation, but someone new to the forum does not, and we can't hold that against them.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:34:26
Fair enough.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: genkidama on Wed, 19 August 2015, 17:09:54
I also don't know feng, but heard a lot about him being a long-time member here and putting up GBs successfully and all. But at first I would like to hear about what is up with the GB, if August is still viable and if the GB starts how many would want the smart board as I think this is a great board for what I have seen so far.

Of course, I also am reserved doing this here rather than on MD as I am still a beginner / newbie in the mech board scene (don't know feng at all despite hearing a lot) and 300 USD is a pretty hefty pricetag, though I partially can understand why that is. And seeing the GH60 GB going such a long strech with the PCBs, Cases etc. I'm a little more scared, though I know that a GB probably always will be behind some timetable which is perfectly fine. Another example why I also am a reserved is the TaiHao GB as it looked like the money was gone and stuff and fortunately the GB runner picked it up and got it going again.
I am not trying to say that GB runs are bad or anything, I don't mind spending a small amount if there is a risk of losing it. I only find the pricetag for this particular board pretty high (for myself). And to finally get to the point, I'm sorry I'm a little tipsy, I would like some kind of assurance or so? Is it possible if at all?
Maybe telling or seeing some GB experiences from the past feng ran would lighten up the concerns and apparently the offense on fengs reputation?

I don't know, I just know I want this board badly.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 17:25:15
Maybe just as an update concerning when the GB will happen:
I messaged feng a few days ago and asked some stuff including when the buy will go live. He said it will most likely still be August but he wants to launch the POM Jelly group buy first.

Just wanted to share that information with you guys because this thread got no official reply concerning that for quite some time.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Dodgy on Wed, 19 August 2015, 20:04:47
Jeez, I can't wait for this, definitely count me in  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 20 August 2015, 00:06:45
I just want to point out that my point wasn't about Feng at all. In fact, the only reason I mentioned him was because he was organizing this particular GB. My point was about Massdrop and why many people would presumably be far more likely to buy the board if the GB was organized through them.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: simonyunhe on Thu, 20 August 2015, 08:46:46
For people who are looking for the info of the Smart68 update, this follow info is coming from the Chinese form (EnjoyClick: EC).
Original from, you may need as member for access: http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10316&extra=page%3D1
Taobao link, this is for people to join the GB, you will see the pic here if you do not have access for the EC from: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=521044971611
The owner of the shop said this design of the board is authorized by "deelong", i'm not sure if the owner is "Feng" or not.
If this post against the will of the "Feng", i will delete this one, Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:27:48
For people who are looking for the info of the Smart68 update, this follow info is coming from the Chinese form (EnjoyClick: EC).
Original from, you may need as member for access: http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10316&extra=page%3D1
Taobao link, this is for people to join the GB, you will see the pic here if you do not have access for the EC from: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=521044971611
The owner of the shop said this design of the board is authorized by "deelong", i'm not sure if the owner is "Feng" or not.
If this post against the will of the "Feng", i will delete this one, Thanks!

What if you don't know Chinese, and you want to place an order through this page?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:04:04
For people who are looking for the info of the Smart68 update, this follow info is coming from the Chinese form (EnjoyClick: EC).
Original from, you may need as member for access: http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10316&extra=page%3D1
Taobao link, this is for people to join the GB, you will see the pic here if you do not have access for the EC from: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=521044971611
The owner of the shop said this design of the board is authorized by "deelong", i'm not sure if the owner is "Feng" or not.
If this post against the will of the "Feng", i will delete this one, Thanks!

What if you don't know Chinese, and you want to place an order through this page?

Even if you did I sort of doubt that international shipping is an option.  These are usually run through an English-speaking proxy for shipping.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: adamski07 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 19:51:54
Saw this on reddit. I love the concept and design. Count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: 108 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:36:38
Pretty much everything about the keyboard is dope as ****, now only if I had 300$...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 20 August 2015, 21:00:02
Cool, we have a price now so I can know what to set aside, all I need now is a firm start date.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: THSdrummer on Fri, 21 August 2015, 08:16:17
I've been pretty interested in this board since I saw it on a poll at Massdrop. All the space savings of a 60%, but with arrow keys. Which raises a question: will a standard order of keycaps fit this board? I love my FC660m, but dealing with the spacebar and right shift changes is a pain.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: dark_rug on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:51:06
Interested. RIP wallet.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Data on Fri, 21 August 2015, 10:20:55
Interested. RIP wallet.

There are options listed at 1400 yuan on the Taobao link a few posts up.  That's only about $219 US.  The most expensive option I see is 1700 yuan, which is roughly $266 US.  Figure about $30 for shipping and it might be possible to get one of these shipped for less than $300.  That's a steal considering what you get, and almost $100 cheaper than many Korean customs.  Not bad.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: animus128 on Fri, 21 August 2015, 10:34:56
Interested. RIP wallet.

There are options listed at 1400 yuan on the Taobao link a few posts up.  That's only about $219 US.  The most expensive option I see is 1700 yuan, which is roughly $266 US.  Figure about $30 for shipping and it might be possible to get one of these shipped for less than $300.  That's a steal considering what you get, and almost $100 cheaper than many Korean customs.  Not bad.

Well buying the 1400 kuai one is probably not worth it because it lacks the hot swapping feature and all the hot swapping ones cost 1700 kuai which I think is only worth it if you order it in China. Anyway I consider not joining the drop right now because I might me in China soon an then buying it there would save me lots of taxes :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:46:17
Let's face it, $300 is a steal for what is basically guaranteed to be your last ever 60%.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 21 August 2015, 20:19:23
does anyone know if those SIP sockets can be replaceable, say if one breaks in shipping? They look to be soldered onto the PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: donpark on Sat, 22 August 2015, 02:24:25
is the board in the taobao link legit?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Sat, 22 August 2015, 16:13:22
is the board in the taobao link legit?

Would also like to know this. And if it is, what's the estimated shipping date?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 22 August 2015, 16:51:31
Taobao is under the Alibaba empire, so the site is definitely legit, but that's like saying eBay is legit - the actual auction is still highly dubious.

However, these pictures look AOK to me. I wouldn't buy it since there's going to be a GB soon, but honestly, if that falls through, I might hazard it...

Also, Google Translate sucks at chinese!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Sat, 22 August 2015, 18:31:44
anyone know if gateron switches will be able to work?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Eszett on Sat, 22 August 2015, 21:18:58
I'm interested, but depends on price. Carbon fibre is not cheap.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 23 August 2015, 03:46:55
Really awesome work! Extremely interesting concept/solution. I am also wondering about ISO option. I cannot see that this has been answered. Any news on ISO option would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: genkidama on Sun, 23 August 2015, 05:14:39
Really awesome work! Extremely interesting concept/solution. I am also wondering about ISO option. I cannot see that this has been answered. Any news on ISO option would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
I second that, would be nice to know.

I can see that you could code the ISO layout yourself as this is fully programmable (right?). It only depends if the PCB layout is compatible, doesn't it?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Sirakain on Mon, 24 August 2015, 11:30:31
The link is definitely legit, you can find the same one in the EC thread.
From the pictures I don't think the PCB supports ISO.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: turboloser on Mon, 24 August 2015, 14:38:21
anyone know if gateron switches will be able to work?

Why wouldn't they? It's all basically the same switch.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ika on Tue, 25 August 2015, 00:42:55
anyone know if gateron switches will be able to work?

Why wouldn't they? It's all basically the same switch.

Tight tolerances on the SIP sockets on the PCB. If Gaterons have looser tolerance than cherry switches, or they move pins around by fractions of a millimeter you may not get the contact you need for a working switch. It depends on how much variance the sockets allow.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Evil-Jester on Tue, 25 August 2015, 22:22:36
Any ETA on the GB ??
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: edsucks on Thu, 27 August 2015, 16:30:49
Any updates on this?
Seems unlikely that the gb will be happening in August. :))
Would I be correct in saying that September or Mid-October is more realistic?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 11:30:01
is the layout programmable?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: Hitcha on Sat, 29 August 2015, 14:50:51
is the layout programmable?

I'd like to know this for sure too! 3 days left in August..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: adamski07 on Sat, 29 August 2015, 15:01:08
This needs to happen as I cancel my Planck order for this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: feng on Sun, 30 August 2015, 22:17:11
Please vote for your favorite layout! If you like layout #1, don't need to vote because it will happen for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: snapdarty on Sun, 30 August 2015, 22:25:36
OMG feng has finally responded, and it's for sure going to happen. I made a GH account in anticipation of this group buy (I come from reddit), and am so happy for my first post to be in support of this amazing keyboard. IT'S HAPPENING! My Smart 68 with Zealios dream is coming to fruition!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: adamski07 on Sun, 30 August 2015, 22:31:47
hell yeah! It is happening. Didn't vote as I want layout #1 'cause most of my spacebars are 6.25. Thanks for the update, Feng.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: Joebroniee on Sun, 30 August 2015, 23:15:29
bump for hype!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 30 August 2015, 23:52:48
Symmetry! My vote goes for 7u spacebar / WKL layout.

Considering that center stemmed 6u spacebar only exists via enjoypbt/Gateron's 6u new center-stemmed spacebar, it would be hard or even impossible to find other high-quality aftermarket caps. I don't see why 6u bottom row is even offered at all. It should only be option #1 and #3.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 31 August 2015, 00:17:01
So ISO is possible with this?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 31 August 2015, 00:24:08
If the third layout gets selected then I might join this buy.
Why have 1.25 mods if I need a tsangan set anyway for those two 1.5 mods?
It doesn't matter if most people have 6.25u spacebars. They would get a 7u spacebar with the tsangan sets they have to buy for this regardless.
 It seems like it would both lower compatibility and make the board look ugly.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: nilpt on Mon, 31 August 2015, 00:48:20
+1 for ISO...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 31 August 2015, 05:01:14
Would it be possible to add the option to have 1u + 1u instead of 2u in the backspace position?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 31 August 2015, 06:57:20
Three different layout options and no ISO? As a European I feel dissed, man!
 :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: DarkDot on Mon, 31 August 2015, 07:43:40
hell yeah! It is happening. Didn't vote as I want layout #1 'cause most of my spacebars are 6.25. Thanks for the update, Feng.

That's why I'm here!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:19:04
NOOB ALERT: With any of the 3 options, you will need some form of non-standard keycaps, correct?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:27:11
NOOB ALERT: With any of the 3 options, you will need some form of non-standard keycaps, correct?

On all the layouts proposed you encounter the problem that 75% and 65% boards encounter, the 3 keys above the arrows that are hard to find in correct legend & profile since it will only be found in mod kit designed for 75%.

Layout #2 with 6u spacebar is the hardest, even with the recent addition of gateron 6u spacebars, this is still an uncomman keycap sizing. And there's also the problem of centered/offcenter stem.

Layout #1 & #3 can be filled with any recent GB that offer both 1.25 & 1.5 bottom row. Only the 3keys problem remains.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: simonyunhe on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:27:43

NOOB ALERT: With any of the 3 options, you will need some form of non-standard keycaps, correct?
You will need
1.75 Shift
1.5 Alt
1.5 Cltrl
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:29:57
Thanks! Guess that is something to figure out. Which of the three is will be the easiest to get caps for? I assume #1?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 31 August 2015, 09:21:43
Just voted for bottom row Layout #3.  :thumb:

One thing I was reminded of, but can't remember the verdict: is there support for split backspace?  I see a couple different layouts, both with regular backspace placement and a "shifted" (1u to the right) backspace placement, which looks promising, but the plates mockups don't show support for split backspace.  Was this discussed before? 
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: inanis on Mon, 31 August 2015, 09:46:05
I too was hoping for a split backspace. I thought that was in the original design, but maybe I'm wrong.  I hadn't looked in a while.

I can't decide between options 2 and 3. Aesthetically I like 2 better, but I know that I already have, and can continue to find, caps to support 3 easier. I'll probably go with 3...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: shrubkeys on Mon, 31 August 2015, 10:21:59
I don't believe there was ever any intended support for a split backspace - but I would be incredibly excited if there were. The differences between #s 1-3 are comparatively trivial. Allowing a short spacebar would be huge - and yet another way to make this project attractive.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:08:23
Sure, and there should be an ortholinear layout, and a 104-key layout, and an 84-key...

Mass production is NOT easy.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: Data on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:09:15
I'm actually kinda surprised that a 1.25 + 1.25 + 1.25 + 6.25 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 bottom row layout isn't supported.  That seems like kind of a no-brainer for this setup.  Did I just miss it?  Am I blind?

(http://i.imgur.com/g8mTAW2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:12:28
Sure, and there should be an ortholinear layout, and a 104-key layout, and an 84-key...

Mass production is NOT easy.

Dude. They're just talking about a split backspace.
It's almost quintessential to smaller form factor keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: inanis on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:16:21
Sure, and there should be an ortholinear layout, and a 104-key layout, and an 84-key...

Mass production is NOT easy.

True. That is why there is an Interest Check though, to get feed back from the consumer and make sure you are meeting the need. Will everyone be happy? No, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't offer suggestions. Plus people like getting their voice heard. Makes us all feel like special snowflakes.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:19:13
please do #3.

or wait no, please do #2 so I don't have to buy this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:53:38
Voted for option 3  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite layout)
Post by: shrubkeys on Mon, 31 August 2015, 12:26:44
Sure, and there should be an ortholinear layout, and a 104-key layout, and an 84-key...

Hush, now. You understand the distinction. Please think before you post.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: feng on Mon, 31 August 2015, 13:11:18
Sorry guys, made a mistake here. I meant to ask which type of carbon fiber plates you'd prefer, not which layout you like. Here's two options.

1. Two separate plates, meaning that if you want both layouts, you would have to buy two plates for better compatibility.
2. One plate with separate bottom row, meaning that you only need to buy one plate which is compatible for both layout #2 and #3. The bottom row is installed separately from the main plate. But it's kinda a new thing, so we don't know if it would be accepted by most people.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: inanis on Mon, 31 August 2015, 13:17:31
Sorry guys, made a mistake here. I meant to ask which type of carbon fiber plates you'd prefer, not which layout you like. Here's two options.

1. Two separate plates, meaning that if you want both layouts, you would have to buy two plates for better compatibility.
2. One plate with separate bottom row, meaning that you only need to buy one plate which is compatible for both layout #2 and #3. The bottom row is installed separately from the main plate. But it's kinda a new thing, so we don't know if it would be accepted by most people.
I love the idea of having a separate plate just for the bottom row! Experimenting with new things is the way to foster more innovation. I'm all for it. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 31 August 2015, 13:59:04
2. One plate with separate bottom row, meaning that you only need to buy one plate which is compatible for both layout #2 and #3. The bottom row is installed separately from the main plate. But it's kinda a new thing, so we don't know if it would be accepted by most people.

What about stability? Isn't the extra plate kinda loose?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: feng on Mon, 31 August 2015, 14:01:47
2. One plate with separate bottom row, meaning that you only need to buy one plate which is compatible for both layout #2 and #3. The bottom row is installed separately from the main plate. But it's kinda a new thing, so we don't know if it would be accepted by most people.

What about stability? Isn't the extra plate kinda loose?

No need to worry about stability. That worried me at first but the producer said it's not loose at all since there's 4 screws to support the bottom row plate.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 31 August 2015, 14:56:07
Does this affect transportability of the board, carrying in a backpack? Or is this already answered through the stability questions?  :-[


e: still would like to know about ISO though. I don't know if this can be seen on the PCB itself or not  :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:43:26
Sorry guys, made a mistake here. I meant to ask which type of carbon fiber plates you'd prefer, not which layout you like. Here's two options.

1. Two separate plates, meaning that if you want both layouts, you would have to buy two plates for better compatibility.
2. One plate with separate bottom row, meaning that you only need to buy one plate which is compatible for both layout #2 and #3. The bottom row is installed separately from the main plate. But it's kinda a new thing, so we don't know if it would be accepted by most people.
Two plates might be better for key stability.

But, one universal plate might be better and cheaper for most people.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:49:21
So, is the offset backspace key still an option?

It doesn't look like it is based on the plate renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 01 September 2015, 04:15:18
Sighting on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3j6cmm/photoslook_at_who_is_sitting_on_my_desk_smart_68/
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Tue, 01 September 2015, 08:42:49
Sighting on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3j6cmm/photoslook_at_who_is_sitting_on_my_desk_smart_68/

Will we have an option for the low-cut case seen in the original post pictures? Or is the taller case seen here now our only option?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: edsucks on Tue, 01 September 2015, 18:14:36
Does the plate with the separate bottom row include all three layouts or only #2 and #3?

What kind of case will be used in the buy? Is it the one shown in the OP or is it the taller and thicker one as seen here: https://i.imgur.com/AG0pAFX.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: flipjsio on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:58:21
So, is the offset backspace key still an option?

It doesn't look like it is based on the plate renders.

I hope the offset backspace is still possible with the latest design/layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 02 September 2015, 16:41:57
Super excited that this is actually proceeding.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ccc24 on Sat, 05 September 2015, 12:24:31
all layouts will be hot swappable right? And will this GB also come with the cable?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:27:45
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Thu, 10 September 2015, 12:30:09
Also, what kind of key-rollover does this keyboard have?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ika on Thu, 10 September 2015, 13:03:21
So the keyboard is on taobao right now... Not a big fan of the case design change. The original case design was one of the biggest draws to this, after the sockets ofc. We'll see what Feng's gb price is.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 11 September 2015, 00:42:38
So the keyboard is on taobao right now... Not a big fan of the case design change. The original case design was one of the biggest draws to this, after the sockets ofc. We'll see what Feng's gb price is.
I totally agree... Reminds me of Ducky's Shine4 case design. This actually makes me re=think if I am gonna spend my hard earned cash on this board. When looking at it on Taobao there seems to be options of case color. Might look better if the case is black imo. There are no pictures of the black option though. Contemplating if a future hot swap board might look better and wait for it to happen.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 11 September 2015, 03:56:21
My main problem is the lip. Grey case with lip, black case with lip, pink case with lip - doesn't matter. I don't lip!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: jiexi on Mon, 14 September 2015, 21:14:01
Tempted to Tao Bao, but feel like a group buy would be better since that boat of people will be bigger.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: kiwi24x on Tue, 15 September 2015, 02:58:16
I am very interested in getting this keyboard. Is there going to be enough for everyone who wants one? I made an account as soon as i saw this amazing thing.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: edsucks on Tue, 15 September 2015, 14:17:37
I am very interested in getting this keyboard. Is there going to be enough for everyone who wants one? I made an account as soon as i saw this amazing thing.

Yeah. When it's available you will probably fill out a form about what layout and case color you want, then you get an invoice sent to you.
When the groupbuy ends, the groupbuy leader (feng) puts in an order at the factory, the parts are made and then finally shipped to you.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 16 September 2015, 03:44:45
And what's extra cool is that this will be the second GB, meaning the timeframe, price and specs will be much more likely to be accurate.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Vozella on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:47:31
This looks really good. I love the layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sun, 20 September 2015, 19:47:36
My main problem is the lip. Grey case with lip, black case with lip, pink case with lip - doesn't matter. I don't lip!

Maybe they have different options?

https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=521381111802&toSite=main

The lip does not look too big in this picture/version.
but It may be a used version 1 I guess?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Thu, 24 September 2015, 10:45:11
Any updates?..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 25 September 2015, 00:35:35
i'm assuming feng is just waiting for his POM set GB to finish before he starts this.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: willdenham on Fri, 25 September 2015, 04:43:48
Signed up on GH just for this IC/GB.

I was tempted to try my luck getting this off Taobao, but I would much rather  have it coming from a reputable dealer in our community.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Dannzzor on Fri, 25 September 2015, 07:26:03
I would prefer less lip, and not a huge fan of the front FN key, but I'll still take one! count me in
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:59:42
How are the polls looking after 1 month of voting?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ccc24 on Thu, 01 October 2015, 13:14:30
now that the pom buy is coming to a close...how soon are we getting this into the GB phase?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Yahosh on Thu, 01 October 2015, 20:55:59
I've been following the progress of the Smart 68 on and off for the last year. Just created a GH account because of it. Hoping we can get a GB going soon?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (updated LED swapping video)
Post by: hoz on Thu, 01 October 2015, 23:13:06
Let's face it, $300 is a steal for what is basically guaranteed to be your last ever 60%.

i said that, about six 60% ago :D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 05 October 2015, 23:42:22
Wait. This still hasn't gotten a GB?

I realize it's most likely been mentioned in this thread, but just in case I didn't read through it in its entirety and skipped to the bottom to reply:
Is it still happening through Massdrop? And soon?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ika on Tue, 06 October 2015, 00:14:07
Wait. This still hasn't gotten a GB?

I realize it's most likely been mentioned in this thread, but just in case I didn't read through it in its entirety and skipped to the bottom to reply:
Is it still happening through Massdrop? And soon?

Aside from the new case design (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61714.msg1852842#msg1852842) we've had no updates from feng re: the status of this GB. What's in the OP is the most up to date info regarding the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Thu, 08 October 2015, 09:05:35
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:06:56
Since we're waiting anyway, anyone know of a 60% PCB with a layout that allows arrowkeys to the bottom right? "short-shift-key"-style preferred.

Edit: Something like this. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f8ad3bde125c2756952d
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ruiner17 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:32:27
Since we're waiting anyway, anyone know of a 60% PCB with a layout that allows arrowkeys to the bottom right? "short-shift-key"-style preferred.

Edit: Something like this. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f8ad3bde125c2756952d

Good question. Does anyone know which keyboard is shown in the header of this massdrop item?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ruiner17 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:35:41
Since we're waiting anyway, anyone know of a 60% PCB with a layout that allows arrowkeys to the bottom right? "short-shift-key"-style preferred.

Edit: Something like this. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f8ad3bde125c2756952d

Good question. Does anyone know which keyboard is shown in the header of this massdrop item?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case
This one:
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-11349_20150926133427_1d1a8fcf7d070297.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: inanis on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:44:59

Good question. Does anyone know which keyboard is shown in the header of this massdrop item?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case
This one:
Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/MD-11349_20150926133427_1d1a8fcf7d070297.jpg)



I believe that is KBT Pure Pro.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:51:34
Well, that's not much help, those are impossible to find...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: simonyunhe on Sat, 10 October 2015, 19:28:58
How about this one?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/6f1cd3c468f6db17fbc582c16512f6b7.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ruiner17 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 23:24:42
How about this one?
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/6f1cd3c468f6db17fbc582c16512f6b7.jpg)


That's a Planck (http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/planck)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: kiwi24x on Sun, 11 October 2015, 00:04:42
It's an atomic but close tho
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ruiner17 on Sun, 11 October 2015, 00:10:23
Ah TIL
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 11 October 2015, 00:19:29
just wondering would it be possible to make the fn button in front of space bar into left and right key for mouse, and add track point between g,h,b?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: kiwi24x on Sun, 11 October 2015, 01:28:47
just wondering would it be possible to make the fn button in front of space bar into left and right key for mouse, and add track point between g,h,b?

Wouldn't that require like heavy modification tho? I mean the Tec yoda uses multiple pcbs fit it to work.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 11 October 2015, 05:29:20
I think I'd make a handwired board if I wanted a trackpoint.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Sun, 11 October 2015, 20:30:44
Interested :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Kliwon on Mon, 12 October 2015, 21:27:17
any update about this feng?
I saw it on Taobao but GB has passed from the date specified..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: jiexi on Wed, 14 October 2015, 22:33:47
I'm ready to throw my money at a lipless version of the Smart 68.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: edsucks on Thu, 15 October 2015, 16:05:30
I'm ready to throw my money at a lipless version of the Smart 68.

I'm ready to throw my money at any version of the Smart68.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 15 October 2015, 17:31:28
I'm ready to throw my money at a lipless version of the Smart 68.

I'm ready to throw my money at any version of the Smart68.  ;)
Someone on Reddit is selling one. Not sure it sold yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 15 October 2015, 21:21:48
I'm ready to throw my money at a lipless version of the Smart 68.

I'm ready to throw my money at any version of the Smart68.  ;)
Someone on Reddit is selling one. Not sure it sold yet.

It's probably still available. It's not the version that is hot swappable.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: edsucks on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:37:52
I'm ready to throw my money at a lipless version of the Smart 68.

I'm ready to throw my money at any version of the Smart68.  ;)
Someone on Reddit is selling one. Not sure it sold yet.

It's probably still available. It's not the version that is hot swappable.

Yeah, it looks so good, but the hot swappable switches are a pretty major selling point for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Data on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:49:25
How about this one?
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/6f1cd3c468f6db17fbc582c16512f6b7.jpg)


What's my Atomic doing in here?  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: simonyunhe on Fri, 16 October 2015, 09:17:46

How about this one?
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/6f1cd3c468f6db17fbc582c16512f6b7.jpg)


What's my Atomic doing in here?  :eek:
Someone is looking for a 60% board with arrow keys, so I post your Atomic board here. Sorry I didn't know that you board and used the picture without your permission.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Data on Fri, 16 October 2015, 09:31:49

How about this one?
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/6f1cd3c468f6db17fbc582c16512f6b7.jpg)


What's my Atomic doing in here?  :eek:
Someone is looking for a 60% board with arrow keys, so I post your Atomic board here. Sorry I didn't know that you board and used the picture without your permission.

No, it's fine.  I don't care.  Just surprised to see my board as I was reading through the thread.   :P
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Sun, 18 October 2015, 18:08:18
Feng, are you alive?..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: DangerPenguin on Wed, 21 October 2015, 14:01:30
I need dis.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: turboloser on Mon, 26 October 2015, 21:58:48
I will wait for you forever.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Edmundoh on Tue, 27 October 2015, 04:00:52
Mmmm, I for one am in with love that thick lip action   :p

If anyone knows where I can get a similar look for a Poker let me know!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: gackbeansauce on Sat, 31 October 2015, 19:40:30
Made an account just to express interest. However, is there anyway we could bring the price tag down a bit (I don't mind the lip either).
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Sun, 01 November 2015, 15:52:30
Made an account just to express interest. However, is there anyway we could bring the price tag down a bit (I don't mind the lip either).

Not too sure if it's possible for such a piece of kit.

Some discussion on the topic can be found here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2durqu/the_smart_68_keyboard/
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Sun, 01 November 2015, 21:22:21
That feeling when the last update was over 2 months ago..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: mrgoldenzombie on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:51:15
The combo between the case and the plate is amazing
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:55:28
That feeling when the last update was over 2 months ago..

Well we need to look at this in a different light, at least we are maybe getting a group buy.  ;D

If patience isn't your thing, grab it from Taobao (http://world.taobao.com/item/521044971611.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cMSM3z#detail).
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:47:10
That feeling when the last update was over 2 months ago..

Well we need to look at this in a different light, at least we are maybe getting a group buy.  ;D

If patience isn't your thing, grab it from Taobao (http://world.taobao.com/item/521044971611.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cMSM3z#detail).

Taobao only sells the 22mini hotswappable, and not the original 68 mini. =\
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Mon, 02 November 2015, 18:00:23
That feeling when the last update was over 2 months ago..

Well we need to look at this in a different light, at least we are maybe getting a group buy.  ;D

If patience isn't your thing, grab it from Taobao (http://world.taobao.com/item/521044971611.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cMSM3z#detail).

Taobao only sells the 22mini hotswappable, and not the original 68 mini. =\

I see :(

So they do the non-hotswappable smart68 but not the hotswappable?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 03 November 2015, 12:46:15
Is it difficult to make it into a hot-swappable board?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Kliwon on Tue, 03 November 2015, 20:20:07
That feeling when the last update was over 2 months ago..

Well we need to look at this in a different light, at least we are maybe getting a group buy.  ;D

If patience isn't your thing, grab it from Taobao (http://world.taobao.com/item/521044971611.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cMSM3z#detail).

Taobao only sells the 22mini hotswappable, and not the original 68 mini. =\
you ask the seller directly?
how in 2taobao whether it is genuine smart68?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: lawlz_xD on Sun, 08 November 2015, 08:40:36
This board is awesome. I hope the GB goes through soon!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: jiexi on Sun, 08 November 2015, 23:18:04
This board is awesome. I hope the GB goes through soon!

This is very off topic, but how do you have 0 posts?..
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Sun, 08 November 2015, 23:21:16
This board is awesome. I hope the GB goes through soon!

This is very off topic, but how do you have 0 posts?..

Post counter is frozen right now
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Hitcha on Thu, 12 November 2015, 15:16:50
Hello?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 12 November 2015, 15:52:15
Hello?

Mate, I'm sure he will update the thread when he has more news!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 21 November 2015, 18:59:12
I'm getting impatient I may just get it from taobao :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Glenmael on Sat, 21 November 2015, 21:17:10
I'm getting impatient I may just get it from taobao :(

I don't think they have this variant on TaoBao!?

If I'm wrong through, please share a link :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: feng on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:31:19
I just talked to the producer but unfortunately he's too busy with a project fund raising lately and he doesn't have time to deal with Smart 68. Although I was planning on doing a group buy in December, it seems it has to be delayed until further notice from the producer. For now we just don't know yet when this can happen. Sorry for the bad news. :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 25 November 2015, 13:38:52
I just talked to the producer but unfortunately he's too busy with a project fund raising lately and he doesn't have time to deal with Smart 68. Although I was planning on doing a group buy in December, it seems it has to be delayed until further notice from the producer. For now we just don't know yet when this can happen. Sorry for the bad news. :(

Ah, well. I'll wait.
Thanks for the update, feng!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Edmundoh on Wed, 25 November 2015, 16:49:42
I just talked to the producer but unfortunately he's too busy with a project fund raising lately and he doesn't have time to deal with Smart 68. Although I was planning on doing a group buy in December, it seems it has to be delayed until further notice from the producer. For now we just don't know yet when this can happen. Sorry for the bad news. :(

That's real sad to hear, but many thanks for the update and getting us out the dark on this Feng.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: genkidama on Thu, 26 November 2015, 12:07:57
I just talked to the producer but unfortunately he's too busy with a project fund raising lately and he doesn't have time to deal with Smart 68. Although I was planning on doing a group buy in December, it seems it has to be delayed until further notice from the producer. For now we just don't know yet when this can happen. Sorry for the bad news. :(
This is sad to hear, I guess we'll just wait and maybe we can drop the price a bit?  :rolleyes:
This is something where the wait is totally worth it!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: turboloser on Thu, 26 November 2015, 17:16:17
Poo
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 26 November 2015, 17:47:39
Delayed is a lot better than cancelled :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Vimto on Sat, 28 November 2015, 07:49:16
I'm definitely interested in this, once it's available.
Only been signed up to this forum for a few days and already looking to spend over a thousand dollars on various things. This is crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 28 November 2015, 09:19:46
I'm definitely interested in this, once it's available.
Only been signed up to this forum for a few days and already looking to spend over a thousand dollars on various things. This is crazy.

Prepare yourself for many thousand more.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: adamski07 on Sat, 28 November 2015, 12:01:01
I am okay with the delay 'cause this means I have more time to save up for this board. :) Thanks for the update, Feng.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (please vote for your favorite carbon fiber plate)
Post by: Eugene45 on Sat, 28 November 2015, 12:42:40
I just talked to the producer but unfortunately he's too busy with a project fund raising lately and he doesn't have time to deal with Smart 68. Although I was planning on doing a group buy in December, it seems it has to be delayed until further notice from the producer. For now we just don't know yet when this can happen. Sorry for the bad news. :(

Hello, is there any chance that we could buy the hot swap pcb / led "tools" and  without the keyboard ? I was looking to use it for a modding project. So that i could just swap led / switch to have some test done ?

Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 28 November 2015, 15:02:22
Not the same layout, but the same idea of hot-swappable switches. Massdrop has the Team Wolf Swappable Switch Keyboard Bundle (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/team-wolf-swappable-switch-mechanical-keyboard) posted today.

There also appears to be a plastic insert that the switches use before they are inserted into the plate and the PCB appears to be screwed into the plate as well.

Looks interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: hoggy on Thu, 03 December 2015, 02:39:01
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: limitz on Sat, 05 December 2015, 14:31:18
Recently picked up a Smart68, why does the front "click"? What is the purpose of that?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: dakuzo on Sat, 05 December 2015, 14:41:38
Recently picked up a Smart68, why does the front "click"? What is the purpose of that?

I believe you can remap the front Omron switch as your 'Fn' key. Instead using up one of your keyboard switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: limitz on Sat, 05 December 2015, 14:48:35
Ahh, interesting. Did not know the front switch was an Omron switch. Cool!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 December 2015, 14:09:20
Recently picked up a Smart68, why does the front "click"? What is the purpose of that?

Where did you get your hands on one?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 11 December 2015, 12:55:01
Private sale from an user on /r/mechmarket. I think he got his off Taobao, at least thats what I think as there are kits for the Smart68 on there.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 11 December 2015, 12:58:33
Private sale from an user on /r/mechmarket. I think he got his off Taobao, at least thats what I think as there are kits for the Smart68 on there.

But I thought those weren't the hot-swappable ones. Care to share the TB link?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 11 December 2015, 13:03:58
Private sale from an user on /r/mechmarket. I think he got his off Taobao, at least thats what I think as there are kits for the Smart68 on there.

But I thought those weren't the hot-swappable ones. Care to share the TB link?

I just know they're on there, no specific links.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: ImBZppl on Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:59:18
https://shop140266986.world.taobao.com/?spm=a312a.7728559.2015080705.1.t8pq3J
The shop has what looks like pictures of DeeLonG's keychains and a slim case smart 68

Thick case version
https://world.taobao.com/item/521044971611.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.3ybA3R#detail

and a purple anodized case version (possibly 2nd hand?)

https://world.taobao.com/item/521437564000.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.3ybA3R#detail

Is the new project that graphics tablet in that store I linked? It looks really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 12 December 2015, 05:46:22
So, we still cant really find one in the wild, yet. :(
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 12 December 2015, 07:23:04
On Massdrop ist matt3o's whitefox mech and comes close to this.
Still not sure to wait or to get matt3o's board, unfortunately I need to wait to get my pay before and as it seems the cap of 1000 buyers will be reached in a couple of days  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: qwack on Sat, 12 December 2015, 07:55:22
Matt3o's keyboard does not feature hotswappable switches though. But the plate is notched so you can swap sliders instead of whole switches.

Given the success of the drop, there may be a second round at some point: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77434.msg1964125#msg1964125
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: skycrimes on Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:51:56
oh man totally forgot about this

still looking forward to it eventually :D
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Lunatique on Sat, 19 December 2015, 15:18:50
Oh man, between this and the White Fox, it's a hard decision. I don't really care about the hot-swapping aspect of this keyboard--it's that FN key that's most compelling to me. It's a more elegant solution than my current one of using TouchCursor and using the spacebar as the fn key.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Glenmael on Sun, 20 December 2015, 03:02:36
Oh man, between this and the White Fox, it's a hard decision. I don't really care about the hot-swapping aspect of this keyboard--it's that FN key that's most compelling to me. It's a more elegant solution than my current one of using TouchCursor and using the spacebar as the fn key.

Yeah this get's my vote, only due to the fact that it's more pleasing on the eyes.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: sircheddar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 15:30:49
i am super interested, but still need to think about it. its really cool tho...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 17 January 2016, 10:18:22
Recently picked up a Smart68, why does the front "click"? What is the purpose of that?

LOL, you bought the smart68 without even knowing about 1 of the 2 drawing features of the board?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 07 March 2016, 08:11:14
I don't wanna stir anything up, but it's March right now and I'm wondering what the status is. Some time as passed now, will this get into GB? feng?
I'm still very very interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: rioc on Mon, 07 March 2016, 09:45:26
I don't wanna stir anything up, but it's March right now and I'm wondering what the status is. Some time as passed now, will this get into GB? feng?
I'm still very very interested!

same here... stumbled upon this thread again today and would very much like to see this one come to life :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: need on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:35:02
I don't wanna stir anything up, but it's March right now and I'm wondering what the status is. Some time as passed now, will this get into GB? feng?
I'm still very very interested!
I'm interested too.
Feng, is it coming together brother ?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Metalogic on Tue, 15 March 2016, 08:03:50
Am interested in this too (UK buyer)...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Fri, 18 March 2016, 17:05:45
I just got one of these in today from Taobao for just shy of 210 USD. The thing is gorgeous. My biggest issue at the moment is that I need a new plate so my backspace and tilde keys are in the right places, as well as (imo) better bottom row sizes. Is there a CAD file for this layout (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61714.0;attach=109896;image)? I'd love to get one done in aluminum.

The plate I have now is this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61714.0;attach=74314;image).

Horribly focused cell phone pics of the board (no switches or caps yet. Hopefully she'll be done by Monday):

(http://i.imgur.com/gr2feBa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xq0z195.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: ImBZppl on Sat, 19 March 2016, 00:14:12
I just got one of these in today from Taobao for just shy of 210 USD. The thing is gorgeous. My biggest issue at the moment is that I need a new plate so my backspace and tilde keys are in the right places, as well as (imo) better bottom row sizes. Is there a CAD file for this layout (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61714.0;attach=109896;image)? I'd love to get one done in aluminum.

The plate I have now is this one (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61714.0;attach=74314;image).

Horribly focused cell phone pics of the board (no switches or caps yet. Hopefully she'll be done by Monday):

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gr2feBa.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xq0z195.jpg)


Was that the one that I linked by 菊少666? Cause it is no longer being sold and you happen to have it :thumb:

Looks like yours is version 1 of the smart 68 and if I remember correctly that may have been the one with the front fn switch that looked messed up from soldering? You might want to check the PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 04:27:55
Was that the one that I linked by 菊少666? Cause it is no longer being sold and you happen to have it :thumb:

Looks like yours is version 1 of the smart 68 and if I remember correctly that may have been the one with the front fn switch that looked messed up from soldering? You might want to check the PCB.

Yeah, that's the one! It seems he relisted it at a lower price, as the link you put up was for 1800 RMB and I got this for ~1300. It is a version 1, and the front switch did look a bit botched when I got it in. It was mostly just flux residue luckily, and after some cleaning and a resolder, looks and works like it's brand new! I had to put my light (Blue springs) Blacks in it as I don't have any clears on hand, and I really hate linear switches, so that's no good, but the keyboard itself is really nice. Having dedicated arrow keys and a caps lock again is gonna take some getting used to, as opposed to using my Pok3r.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 20 March 2016, 19:06:51
Was that the one that I linked by 菊少666? Cause it is no longer being sold and you happen to have it :thumb:

Looks like yours is version 1 of the smart 68 and if I remember correctly that may have been the one with the front fn switch that looked messed up from soldering? You might want to check the PCB.

Yeah, that's the one! It seems he relisted it at a lower price, as the link you put up was for 1800 RMB and I got this for ~1300. It is a version 1, and the front switch did look a bit botched when I got it in. It was mostly just flux residue luckily, and after some cleaning and a resolder, looks and works like it's brand new! I had to put my light (Blue springs) Blacks in it as I don't have any clears on hand, and I really hate linear switches, so that's no good, but the keyboard itself is really nice. Having dedicated arrow keys and a caps lock again is gonna take some getting used to, as opposed to using my Pok3r.

What is your takeaway from it so far? Build quality is alright? Etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Mon, 21 March 2016, 16:56:08
What is your takeaway from it so far? Build quality is alright? Etc.

So far, I'm enjoying it a lot. Having arrow keys again is an adjustment for sure, and I wish I had a plate with the backspace and tilde keys in the opposite positions, but I can work around that. I also wish the board was Mini USB instead of Micro, but I digress. As far as build uality goes, the letter between "Tab and "W" seems to be non-functional, which I'll be trying to work out in just a minute (I didn't notice it until I had to use it just now). As far as concerns about pulling out switches when changing caps, I wouldn't be. The switches seem to grab the plate well enough to avoid being pulled out and they feel very solid.

The plate is extraordinarily light, but feels solid (it should, it's carbon fiber). The case feels great and the Fn button is a very thick aluminum rod and feels incredibly durable. The PCB is attached to the case via a handful of brass standoffs, then the plate is held down with a set of screws into the standoffs. My gripe with the standoffs is that if you use the plate I have, there's a standoff directly under the "Backspace" key that can interfere with the stabilizer and make the key stick. With a different layout, this wouldn't be problematic at all, though.

Overall, I'm loving the board and would absolutely recommend it if you're willing to spend some time figuring out a couple of the quirks of the board. I'd say another revision with slightly better thought put toward layout and standoff spacing would bump it from a 9.4 to a perfect 10/10.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: turboloser on Mon, 21 March 2016, 21:27:59
What is your takeaway from it so far? Build quality is alright? Etc.

So far, I'm enjoying it a lot. Having arrow keys again is an adjustment for sure, and I wish I had a plate with the backspace and tilde keys in the opposite positions, but I can work around that. I also wish the board was Mini USB instead of Micro, but I digress. As far as build uality goes, the letter between "Tab and "W" seems to be non-functional, which I'll be trying to work out in just a minute (I didn't notice it until I had to use it just now). As far as concerns about pulling out switches when changing caps, I wouldn't be. The switches seem to grab the plate well enough to avoid being pulled out and they feel very solid.

The plate is extraordinarily light, but feels solid (it should, it's carbon fiber). The case feels great and the Fn button is a very thick aluminum rod and feels incredibly durable. The PCB is attached to the case via a handful of brass standoffs, then the plate is held down with a set of screws into the standoffs. My gripe with the standoffs is that if you use the plate I have, there's a standoff directly under the "Backspace" key that can interfere with the stabilizer and make the key stick. With a different layout, this wouldn't be problematic at all, though.

Overall, I'm loving the board and would absolutely recommend it if you're willing to spend some time figuring out a couple of the quirks of the board. I'd say another revision with slightly better thought put toward layout and standoff spacing would bump it from a 9.4 to a perfect 10/10.

Neat, keep me posted. I want to know how it breaks in over time.

Could you also post pics?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Tue, 22 March 2016, 01:01:53
Neat, keep me posted. I want to know how it breaks in over time.

Could you also post pics?

Sure can! It's dressed in Dolch as it's the only set I have with a 1.75u Shift (I have Vortex RGBY mods, but I don't care for a lot of different colors).

More
The back of the board has a very clean and simple look:
(http://i.imgur.com/Db9q8BN.jpg)

Here's the board before it got any caps:
(http://i.imgur.com/dRsWXMq.jpg)

All the blues I use nowadays have springs from blacks in them, it's a comfort thing. I also decided to add white LEDs for the hell of it. Unfortunately, these switches already had SIP sockets in them, and the legs aren't long enough to play well with the hot-swapping feature. This basically means that not all of my LEDs are working 100% of the time.

The Micro-USB port is machined out and has a nice look/feel to it. I personally prefer my cables on the left (like the Pok3r), but centered is fine and doesn't get in the way of anything. The case is actually machined a little lower internally right where the connector comes off the PCB to accommodate the extra depth, which I find interesting. (I still prefer Mini connectors.)
(http://i.imgur.com/U63KY5v.jpg)

Here's the board after having caps put on. I need to find two GMK blanks for the keys that have "Delete" and "End" living on them for convenience sake, but as of right now, it's working perfectly.
(http://i.imgur.com/CDGYaOR.jpg)

The case profile is actually very similar to the Pok3r's stock case. The edges are all sharper, though.
(http://i.imgur.com/W6a0YdX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NGDYxtH.jpg)

If you have any specific questions or want to see anything specific, let me know!

Edit: I actually forgot to mention that the plate > standoff > PCB design makes taking the thing apart a real chore, as you need to remove a lot (about half) of keys in order to get the force required to pull the plate off low enough to feel comfortable. I think if I messed with some of my screw holes having standoffs with the threads cut off and the rest just having longer screws, I could make it a lot more user-friendly.

2nd edit: Feng, if there are any LED controls or a way to program them, could you let me know? Having them all on all the time is a bit annoying.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: ImBZppl on Fri, 25 March 2016, 23:13:45
How thick is the case it looks very thin on the V1 and the V2 looks too thick.

I was hesitant to buy it at the time due the the fn switch's appearance of damage but man I wish I snatched it up when he lowered the price.

I think I may go with a V2 in a few months if the GB does not start after breaking in my novatouch but I am not sure I will like the ~ switch being on the top right.  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Sun, 27 March 2016, 23:00:23
How thick is the case it looks very thin on the V1 and the V2 looks too thick.

Since I need to do a bit of modding and trial/error on my board anyway, I'll take some more detailed shots of the interior of the case (wall thickness and whatnot). I don't really see the thickness of the aluminum becoming a problem at any point.

As for the ~ key position, I still don't really like it the way it is now. I'm looking into getting an aluminum plate made that would give me my preferred switch positions, but I think I'd still need programming instructions if I want to make the most of the board.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: feng on Sat, 18 June 2016, 11:40:32
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 11:44:11
Feng, is there any chance I can just order a plate? Also, are there programming instructions bouncing around somewhere, or am I SOL until further notice?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Radlife on Sat, 18 June 2016, 15:03:41
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.


How long will the group buy be open for?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: edsucks on Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:40:47
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.

Did you not end up listing them on your site, or did I just miss them?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: genkidama on Sat, 25 June 2016, 07:29:47
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.

On which site? I'm sorry, I just went for the ones in your signature. Couldn't find anything there.

So it'll be a Smart68 v2 GB? Still compatible for ISO layout?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Luminair on Sat, 02 July 2016, 22:58:00
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.

How quickly did they sell out? It's great news that this keyboard is entering mass production! Will there be a fully-loaded product with key caps, switches, etc?
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: timerwin63 on Sun, 03 July 2016, 00:00:21
How quickly did they sell out? It's great news that this keyboard is entering mass production! Will there be a fully-loaded product with key caps, switches, etc?

No,, the "kit" is a soldered PCB (hot-swap sockets are soldered into it), the aluminum case, and the carbon fiber plate. Switches and keycaps will have to be sourced on your own.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: waffochan on Sun, 03 July 2016, 01:43:26
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.

How quickly did they sell out?

I don't think there's any indication that they ever actually went up.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: edsucks on Sun, 03 July 2016, 12:24:49
Group buy will be available real soon in probably a week. In the mean time, I'll list 5 pcs of Smart 68 V2 on my site tomorrow.

How quickly did they sell out?

I don't think there's any indication that they ever actually went up.

I kept my eyes on the site since that post, didn't see anything listed. Maybe something got in the way.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: waffochan on Sun, 03 July 2016, 20:13:35
That's what I was assuming as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 04 July 2016, 10:42:16
Not to be racist, but my impression is that chinese time is slightly different than western time...
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: LunarisDream on Tue, 05 July 2016, 07:14:06
Feng's been busy. GB's still up, the 5 boards will still be for sale, and the buy will open up very soon™.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: Bigboy on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:45:14
Sure , the GB will come soon , maybe , it's tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: LunarisDream on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:47:00
Sure , the GB will come soon , maybe , it's tomorrow.

4u
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: nateth on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:53:57
??? Only for Bigboy??? I'm so confused.
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 11 July 2016, 10:55:13
I am still wondering of which website he was talking about as geekkeys seems to have only keycap-sets rather custom keyboards to buy  :confused:

Oh boy are we patiently waiting on this one to drop :>
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (Pending, please wait for further notice)
Post by: feng on Fri, 15 July 2016, 10:04:36
I've submitted the group buy and waiting for it to be approved. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB will be live soon)
Post by: feng on Fri, 15 July 2016, 10:39:49
GB link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.0
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:16:06
Whoa! Big day!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: Rebral on Fri, 15 July 2016, 16:24:14
The dream is real!!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: pavona on Tue, 30 August 2016, 22:12:28
Yeah, I want in!!!!   Where do I buy?!?!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: timerwin63 on Tue, 30 August 2016, 22:25:01
Yeah, I want in!!!!   Where do I buy?!?!

Missed it by about a month.

Edit: Sorry, I lied. Orders closed on the 13th. The buy thread was over here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83442.150).
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: Ayala on Sun, 04 December 2016, 16:11:41
how can i get one of these? will I have to wait for another group buy or is there an alternative?

TIA
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: hillmu on Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:26:10
It's cool!
Title: Re: [IC] Smart 68 Keyboard Set (GB is live)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 21 April 2018, 14:35:51
can you make more such PCBs with the sockets pre-installed please?