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Title: [GB] SA Retro [Closed]
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 May 2015, 17:04:26
(https://d1aoqdsbsuo9t3.cloudfront.net/uploads/group_buy/banner/16/9541ca39f77c615b89e7f6d34c1f6f05.png)

The successor of DSA Retro (http://keypuller.com/dsa-retro) is finally here! Always lovingly designed by Matt3o (me), this time proudly powered by CTRLALT.io (https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro).

The keyset is of course in SA Profile, sculpted with the following row profile:

ROW 1 - Function keys
ROW 1 - Number row
ROW 2 - QWERTY row
ROW 3 - ASDFG row
ROW 4 - ZXCVB row (with the exception of SHIFT keys that are row 3)
ROW 4 - Modifier row

Unfortunately I don't have a picture of the final product but we got plenty in DSA fragrance to evaluate the color combo.

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71636.0;attach=101248;image)

This one is full brown (True retro) REMEMBER THESE ARE DSA, the GB is for SA!
(http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/dsa-retro-BimboBB_.jpg)
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This is with burgundy
(http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/dsa-retro-astr0s_.jpg)
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As I said the group buy is handled by the mighty guys at CTRLALT.io so you can expect this to be a pro and smooth buy as BunnyLake has spoiled us with :)

If you had enough of my blabbing go directly to the...

Order form (https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro)

Just to wet your appetite these are the two main kits. Just $80 for a hell lot of keys!

True retro
(https://d1aoqdsbsuo9t3.cloudfront.net/uploads/item/default_image/90/42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d.png)

Burgundy
(https://d1aoqdsbsuo9t3.cloudfront.net/uploads/item/default_image/91/c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7.png)

There are 17 kits to choose from to dress up a wide range of keyboards! Be sure to grab everything you need. If in doubt, or you don't know if your keyboard is supported, just ask.

Although profetionally managed this is still a "community" project, the "fixed price" model Bunny has in place is straight forward for the buyer but still very risky. Some of the kits that have been asked in the IC phase need really a lot of love (such as the intl kits, dvorak, apple, ...).

Good hunting!

Order form (https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro)

Payment
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To pay with paypal: place your order and do not pay. Send your order number and your paypal email to ctrlalt from the contact form https://ctrlalt.io/contact . All done

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Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 05 May 2015, 18:41:12
Niiiiiiice !  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 05 May 2015, 18:54:21
Will def. get the Ergodox kit
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 05 May 2015, 18:59:14
Man JTK Debut and this on the same day! My wallet feels like Rodney King
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:09:41
Nice one!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: platypus on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:24:27
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1540445964/Untitled_normal.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:29:36
Getting that all too familiar feeling when it comes to getting involved with another Matt3o's Special Key-set   8) .

I don't know why Italians get me so worked up into a frenzy when it comes to their designs.......

20 days left to place an order, hence this baby is going in fast  :o .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Willyc277 on Tue, 05 May 2015, 19:52:47
This might be the set that convinces me to give SA another chance  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Tue, 05 May 2015, 20:29:46
The basic $80 kit covers standard TKL boards and winkeyless boards, correct?

Edit:
Order placed  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:00:49
The basic $80 kit covers standard TKL boards and winkeyless boards, correct?

CORRECTAMUNDO  :thumb: .

I'm surprised how many keys get bundled into $80.00USD  :o .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:33:34
Will join when I get paid. Will be first SA set.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Tue, 05 May 2015, 21:38:54
I'm surprised how many keys get bundled into $80.00USD  :o .

Yes, but with addons, this one gets very expensive very fast. (And thanx, Matt3o for the stepped caps - didn't see them in the IC layouts.)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 05 May 2015, 22:22:34
I'm surprised how many keys get bundled into $80.00USD  :o .

Yes, but with addons, this one gets very expensive very fast. (And thanx, Matt3o for the stepped caps - didn't see them in the IC layouts.)

It's always been that way,  addons are not cheap PLUS certain people don't want to pay extra for a couple of keys they might not need so CTRL/ALT made sure you get maximum benefit for the STANDARD TKL layout.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: malcomkern on Wed, 06 May 2015, 00:03:52
Ordered, now the wait for the delivery starts.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pcnnnn on Wed, 06 May 2015, 00:09:03
Matt3o, are the 3 1.75x Key (Return/Fn/Stepped Ctrl) in the Pro Mods kit center-stemmed or off center?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Wed, 06 May 2015, 00:09:18
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 01:10:06
Matt3o, are the 3 1.75x Key (Return/Fn/Stepped Ctrl) in the Pro Mods kit center-stemmed or off center?

They should be all off-center (have to check but I'm not sure SP has center-stemmed stepped key in SA)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 06 May 2015, 01:55:23
awesome ... ive been waiting to get my hands on that set ..
what addional sets/keys would i need for the kinesis advantage ?

are there any 1.25 caps includet ?

thanks alot ..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 02:00:50
awesome ... ive been waiting to get my hands on that set ..
what addional sets/keys would i need for the kinesis advantage ?

are there any 1.25 caps includet ?

thanks alot ..

not a kinesis advantage expert, what's the size of the side keys? 1.5 or 1.25? can't tell from the pictures. If they are 1.5 (as I suspect) you probably just need the base+ergodox kits.

PS: Does SA work on the kinesis?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 06 May 2015, 02:12:58
there are 8x (23 mm width) 1.25 .. with 1.5 id need to dremel around .. not a huge problem .. but still id be great if i could avoid it .. right now is the time to think about the advantage as well .. (there is a current massdrop)

regarding sa http://adereth.github.io/blog/2015/02/17/sa-profile-keys-on-a-kinesis-advantage/
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 03:26:21
there are 8x (23 mm width) 1.25 .. with 1.5 id need to dremel around .. not a huge problem .. but still id be great if i could avoid it .. right now is the time to think about the advantage as well .. (there is a current massdrop)

regarding sa http://adereth.github.io/blog/2015/02/17/sa-profile-keys-on-a-kinesis-advantage/

it actually looks fantastic in SA :)

unfortunately nobody chimed in during the interest check and asked for additional 1.25 keys. There should be enough 1.25 to cover the whole keyboard but definitely not on the right row.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 06 May 2015, 04:48:50
there are 8x (23 mm width) 1.25 .. with 1.5 id need to dremel around .. not a huge problem .. but still id be great if i could avoid it .. right now is the time to think about the advantage as well .. (there is a current massdrop)

regarding sa http://adereth.github.io/blog/2015/02/17/sa-profile-keys-on-a-kinesis-advantage/

There are 11 1.25x size keys in the main set, but they're all Row 4. Still, as long as the main key areas have the right profile, it may be okay to use them, but they may feel a bit odd. An option is to invert the upper caps, so you have something like 2-2-4-4 where the main area is 1-2-3-4-(4). I don't think you can just dremel around the 1.5x caps, since they will impact both the case AND the other keycaps, so you'd have to dremel the caps themselves (I don't see it being an easy task to move the switches further out, considering they're soldered to a flexible PCB).

You'll still need the Ergodox kit for the vertical 2x thumb keys, though.


Absolutely top notch job on the design and kits, Matt3o! It's looking awesome! The only thing I have to decide now is... one set or two? For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 04:56:27
this could be the 18th kit... keep ordering if you want it to become a reality!

(http://i.imgur.com/i3ak61B.png)

Absolutely top notch job on the design and kits, Matt3o! It's looking awesome! The only thing I have to decide now is... one set or two? For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)

Take

both

:)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 06 May 2015, 05:10:55
this could be the 18th kit... keep ordering if you want it to become a reality!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/i3ak61B.png)


Absolutely top notch job on the design and kits, Matt3o! It's looking awesome! The only thing I have to decide now is... one set or two? For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)

Take

both

:)

that is awesome
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:28:15
this could be the 18th kit... keep ordering if you want it to become a reality!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/i3ak61B.png)


Absolutely top notch job on the design and kits, Matt3o! It's looking awesome! The only thing I have to decide now is... one set or two? For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)

Take

both

:)

(http://i.imgur.com/gEA7CjY.gif)

SO...TORN...BETWEEN...RETRO ACCURACY...AND...ISO PEDANTRY.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: bubbedi on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:36:00

...Some of the kits that have been asked in the IC phase need really a lot of love (such as the intl kits, dvorak, apple, ...).


Hopefully the combined layout package will up the chances for it to tip. Even though all I need is the colemak caps, I'm very pleased with your decision of a combined kit.
Will you provide status here whether kit got the love it deserves or not?

God I'm looking forward to test this profile.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: agong8664 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:40:19
In base kit, the "shift"s are R3 and in Mods "shift"s are R4?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:44:05
In base kit, the "shift"s are R3 and in Mods "shift"s are R4?

yes.


...Some of the kits that have been asked in the IC phase need really a lot of love (such as the intl kits, dvorak, apple, ...).


Hopefully the combined layout package will up the chances for it to tip. Even though all I need is the colemak caps, I'm very pleased with your decision of a combined kit.
Will you provide status here whether kit got the love it deserves or not?

I will!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 06 May 2015, 07:32:36
I really don't need more caps but these are so tempting. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 08:18:27
I really don't need more caps but these are so tempting. :thumb:

you know you do :) especially if we end up adding the side-printed kit this could be legendary :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:57:50
Is there any possibility of getting a 4.5 unit space added to either the small space kit or on it's own?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Wed, 06 May 2015, 10:11:49
Just saw that this was up!

Order:
2xBurgundy Base
2xErgoDox
4xBlanks (I'll let you know how the R1s work in the top of the thumb cluster.)
2xDvorak/Colemak (Let me know if this one is looking like it will cause you pain, we can probably work something out.)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Proyal on Wed, 06 May 2015, 10:30:18
Order placed for the burgundy base kit. Excited to try out sa keycaps, thanks for setting up this group buy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zah on Wed, 06 May 2015, 10:59:11
Can't decide if I want the brown or red modifiers.

Think I'll go brown with the lime kit for a bit of color  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 11:27:35
Is there any possibility of getting a 4.5 unit space added to either the small space kit or on it's own?


if the set is very successful we will add more keys!

Can't decide if I want the brown or red modifiers.

Think I'll go brown with the lime kit for a bit of color  :thumb:

good choice if you ask me :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:12:51
if the set is very successful we will add more keys!

GeekHack keys per chance?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 16:58:43
if the set is very successful we will add more keys!

GeekHack keys per chance?

possibly, yes
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 06 May 2015, 17:00:24
if the set is very successful we will add more keys!

GeekHack keys per chance?

possibly, yes

such a tease :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Wed, 06 May 2015, 17:05:50

if the set is very successful we will add more keys!

GeekHack keys per chance?

possibly, yes

such a tease :P

Took the words right out of my mouth.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 May 2015, 17:22:56
like I said, we need moar orders! :P

... and permission from GH admins
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rickyhobby on Thu, 07 May 2015, 04:08:02
Very nice!

You must do the the PETSCII kit!  That would make this the ultimate C64 set.  I WILL order that.

In your mockup, I think that your £ has an incorrect glyph:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Commodore64.jpg)

The rest look correct.  If I were to nitpick, perhaps the quarter circles on your U, I, J, K should be a bit smaller.  They should line up with the middle of each side.

Perhaps a "RESTORE" key for that set?  In either 2.0u (in place of backspace) or (my preference) 1.5u (in place of PIPE) and having it in the original location?  Who doesn't remember hitting RUN STOP + RESTORE?!

I have not ordered yet.  You need moar orders, I will happily get on that ASAP to help show support for this set (with or without PETSCII I'm getting it).  But, can I then go back later and add the PETSCII kit to my order (and not pay double shipping?)

Thanks,
Rick
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Thu, 07 May 2015, 04:37:28
Just  a noob question. Usually the function row are R3, if it's R1 isnt it hard to replacement caps? Even SP is selling R3 for function key row.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: unipsykal on Thu, 07 May 2015, 06:24:40
this could be the 18th kit... keep ordering if you want it to become a reality!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/i3ak61B.png)


Absolutely top notch job on the design and kits, Matt3o! It's looking awesome! The only thing I have to decide now is... one set or two? For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)

Take

both

:)

Awesome! Definitely gonna get that!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zeromachina on Thu, 07 May 2015, 08:17:43
i had scoured the classifieds on occasion for the original retro set to no avail, or to find that i had missed out. so in one pays time these will be mine! muhahahahahah

ahh the c64 goodness.
 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:22:25
Very nice!

You must do the the PETSCII kit!  That would make this the ultimate C64 set.  I WILL order that.

In your mockup, I think that your � has an incorrect glyph:

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Commodore64.jpg)


The rest look correct.  If I were to nitpick, perhaps the quarter circles on your U, I, J, K should be a bit smaller.  They should line up with the middle of each side.

I have a reference picture that is actually different... I have to dig deeper into this. Probably there are two (or maybe more) versions.

EDIT: I uploaded the wrong image :D

Perhaps a "RESTORE" key for that set?  In either 2.0u (in place of backspace) or (my preference) 1.5u (in place of PIPE) and having it in the original location?  Who doesn't remember hitting RUN STOP + RESTORE?!

I have not ordered yet.  You need moar orders, I will happily get on that ASAP to help show support for this set (with or without PETSCII I'm getting it).  But, can I then go back later and add the PETSCII kit to my order (and not pay double shipping?)

"Restore" will be also included in 1.5u.

PS: You can add kits to the order at any time.

Just  a noob question. Usually the function row are R3, if it's R1 isnt it hard to replacement caps? Even SP is selling R3 for function key row.

Originally the plan was to make it R3, but the hordes attacked and forced me to make it R1. In R1 it is definitely easier to reach.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 64rky on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:53:29
Hmmm...? I have the Hack'd set,  and R3 function row is perfect. R1 might look weird,  WHATEVER,  I'll be ordering regardless.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:37:58
Which needs more of a bump, burgundy or retro pro mods? I can't decide otherwise and want the option of sticking these on a planck.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 07 May 2015, 18:30:10
Is the R4 Control key meant to be R3 in the Pro Mods set? Or.. if not, is there an option for switching Shift Lock for Control in this set?

Also - is the 7u spacebar R3 or R4?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 08 May 2015, 01:24:23
Is the R4 Control key meant to be R3 in the Pro Mods set? Or.. if not, is there an option for switching Shift Lock for Control in this set?

Also - is the 7u spacebar R3 or R4?

there should have been both, that is an error by my part. I'll do my best to include the R3 control.

All spacebars are R3.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 08 May 2015, 07:06:35
Is the R4 Control key meant to be R3 in the Pro Mods set? Or.. if not, is there an option for switching Shift Lock for Control in this set?

Also - is the 7u spacebar R3 or R4?

there should have been both, that is an error by my part. I'll do my best to include the R3 control.

All spacebars are R3.

Awesome! Thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:59:12
Wickedly sick profile caps Matt3o, much love! 
Are these key caps ABS material double-shot legend printing or will CTRL-ALT-io be running this batch in PBT?  Do you have a quantity expected to be produced?  Thanks and please keep the runs coming. 

I am so pissed I missed out on the Granite PBT set.  Please do bring this set back!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 08 May 2015, 11:54:56
I am on this...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 08 May 2015, 12:18:13
Just got Burgandy Base Kit, thank you Matt3o and CtrlAlt!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: techmattr on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:08:02
(http://i.imgur.com/iJ2rYQz.jpg)


x1 SA Retro — True Retro : $80.00 | $80.00
x1 SA Retro — Retro Burgundy : $80.00 | $80.00
x1 SA Retro — Pro Mods : $35.00 | $35.00
x1 SA Retro — Pro Burgundy Mods : $35.00 | $35.00
x1 SA Retro — Alternate Functions : $35.00 | $35.00
x1 SA Retro — Lime : $20.00 | $20.00
x1 SA Retro — Big Spacebars : $6.00 | $6.00
x1 SA Retro — Small Spacebars : $10.00 | $10.00
x1 SA Retro — Blanks : $6.00 | $6.00
x1 JTK Debut — Spacebars — Black (2 pack) : $3.00 | $3.00
x1 JTK Debut — White on Black — w/ 104 MX to Topre Sliders : $68.00 | $68.00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total: $378.00
Shipping cost: $13.00 (CONUS)
Donations: $2.00
--
Grand Total: $393.00

I don't think I've ever care so little about spending $400. So worth it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:03:23
This is such a great set Matt3o. Trying to optimize my purchase without overbuying, but I fear I'm just going to have to order both base sets. Not complaining, but I wish there was a way to get the burgundy mods by themselves.

Since I'll be rocking these on a 60%, there's no way to get a secondary color without the burgundy mods. Again, not complaining, just thinking out loud as it were and wishing I had more money so I could just buy one of everything.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:06:48
Wickedly sick profile caps Matt3o, much love! 
Are these key caps ABS material double-shot legend printing or will CTRL-ALT-io be running this batch in PBT?  Do you have a quantity expected to be produced?  Thanks and please keep the runs coming. 

yes, it's ABS double shot.

In a couple of days I'll let everybody know how the GB is going so far. All I know is that it started a bit slow but it is steady like a dwarf: unbeatable in the long distance.

This is such a great set Matt3o. Trying to optimize my purchase without overbuying, but I fear I'm just going to have to order both base sets. Not complaining, but I wish there was a way to get the burgundy mods by themselves.

Since I'll be rocking these on a 60%, there's no way to get a secondary color without the burgundy mods. Again, not complaining, just thinking out loud as it were and wishing I had more money so I could just buy one of everything.  :p

I hear you. I wish I could offer smaller kits, but Bunny has to physically ship the packages, so he has the final word on that.

And now a word to all the international buyer:

BUY THE INTL KITS!

I hate you guys, in the IC it seemed that without the intl kits you were going to die, and now that you have them you don't buy them?!

Next time I'll spare myself the time to design them! :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:01:46
From my perception, it seems like the IC to GB turnover rate is about 50%, is that your experience?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:07:30
I would have order a couple but the row profile turned me off.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 03:10:42
Matt3o, in the Pro Mods kit, there are R4 1.75U Shift and R4 1.75U Control keys. If that Control key is meant to replace Caps Lock, shouldn't it be R3 like the stepped R3 1.75U Ctrl?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:01:28
Matt3o, in the Pro Mods kit, there are R4 1.75U Shift and R4 1.75U Control keys. If that Control key is meant to replace Caps Lock, shouldn't it be R3 like the stepped R3 1.75U Ctrl?

I'll check with SP and ctrlalt, I'll do my best to add both keys (r3 and r4 1.75u control)

From my perception, it seems like the IC to GB turnover rate is about 50%, is that your experience?

well it depends on the GB. Granite for example went way better than expected.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: atectatifern on Sat, 09 May 2015, 10:08:09
It took a high degree of restraint to keep my order to just the burgundy set and the alternate functions. But the good news is that keyboard-related purchases for the month don't yet exceed my housing payment!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Sat, 09 May 2015, 18:26:46
Matt3o, in the Pro Mods kit, there are R4 1.75U Shift and R4 1.75U Control keys. If that Control key is meant to replace Caps Lock, shouldn't it be R3 like the stepped R3 1.75U Ctrl?

I think the filco minila uses a 1.75 ctrl key. Maybe for that?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: techmattr on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:10:01
Matt3o, in the Pro Mods kit, there are R4 1.75U Shift and R4 1.75U Control keys. If that Control key is meant to replace Caps Lock, shouldn't it be R3 like the stepped R3 1.75U Ctrl?

I think the filco minila uses a 1.75 ctrl key. Maybe for that?

Correct. I made sure Matt3o included all the necessary keys for the Minila! :D

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/535b499a857a070cc3a974776f7f5e03
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 May 2015, 20:14:35
OK then ignore everything I said.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:15:14
i have been w8ing so long 4 this  :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:51:59
i have been w8ing so long 4 this  :p :p :p :p

Same here, this was the first Matt3o Key-set released on Geekhack at a time when boring key-set designs was quite common.

His colour-way was almost too delicious to ignore but it's relation to the past A64 PC is simply great.  The SA profile makes it more perfect than his first edition on DSA, he always goes the extra mile when it comes to designing each key.

Trust me, when this key-set passes into history you'll have desperate people pleading to us, to sell our stash of these fine pieces of Art.  Matt3o is the Renaissance Artist in Key-sets today so do not ever miss out on a prime opportunity to acquire some unique pieces of art in the form of ABS plastic  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zabuza1997 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 04:01:37
i have been w8ing so long 4 this  :p :p :p :p

Same here, this was the first Matt3o Key-set released on Geekhack at a time when boring key-set designs was quite common.

His colour-way was almost too delicious to ignore but it's relation to the past A64 PC is simply great.  The SA profile makes it more perfect than his first edition on DSA, he always goes the extra mile when it comes to designing each key.

Trust me, when this key-set passes into history you'll have desperate people pleading to us, to sell our stash of these fine pieces of Art.  Matt3o is the Renaissance Artist in Key-sets today so do not ever miss out on a prime opportunity to acquire some unique pieces of art in the form of ABS plastic  :thumb: .

totally agreed.But, it sounds like you worship Matt3o  :LoL:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 May 2015, 08:06:09
Subscriptions to the cult are open Mon-Thu 8am-5pm, Fri subscriptions are closed due to virgin sacrifices. Strict dress code for keyboards. Please bring your own keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 10 May 2015, 08:47:02
I am placing a *huge* order right now, but I wish more GHers were Vim fans. The lime set would be perfect with hjkl keys added to it. I love the set though, Matt3o, thank you!

-potatowire
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 May 2015, 10:46:40
I am placing a *huge* order right now, but I wish more GHers were Vim fans. The lime set would be perfect with hjkl keys added to it. I love the set though, Matt3o, thank you!

thanks!

if the set is very successful I might add a bonus pack with some extras (you will be able to add it to your order later)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:40:12
Awesome! I can't imagine this set not being very successful, so I will get my money ready...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Hofy on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:42:50
Finally!!!!!  Now to decide what I want.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:48:21
Finally!!!!!  Now to decide what I want.

take everything of course
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Hofy on Sun, 10 May 2015, 14:14:36
Finally!!!!!  Now to decide what I want.

take everything of course

I would love to, but finances dictate otherwise.  I will be ordering a set plus some extras though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 10 May 2015, 19:33:54
totally agreed.But, it sounds like you worship Matt3o  :LoL:

When it comes to innovative key-set colour-ways, I sure do.   Always give credit to the Creatives because they inhabit a unique area of seeing something beautiful and applying it to anything, that includes key-sets.

Matt3o's key-sets are always unique and have that special composition with Legends on all the individual keys that most ignore or couldn't care less about but this guy makes sure it counts and you notice it when you use the keys up close, that is why I always frame his complete key-set on my wall with his name applied.

People think that designing a whole key-set is easy but it's not, again you can compare his vision of what key-sets should look like verses everyone else's and you'll quickly come to the conclusion that his key-sets have that special ambience and quality, which is unique to Matt3o.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 02:07:47
thanks Elrick, I'm flattered... but there are so many good sets around. One thing I can tell you, I design what I like and I don't care if people don't :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 11 May 2015, 02:11:33
thanks Elrick, I'm flattered... but there are so many good sets around. One thing I can tell you, I design what I like and I don't care if people don't :)

It seems that more often than not the majority do like the sets you design.

Very much! :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: renne on Mon, 11 May 2015, 02:46:34
just curious, is SP able to make SA Row4 Shift key now?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 02:50:14
just curious, is SP able to make SA Row4 Shift key now?

unfortunately, no
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: renne on Mon, 11 May 2015, 03:05:29
just curious, is SP able to make SA Row4 Shift key now?

unfortunately, no

im so sad
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:13:11
I will have the opportunity to try out SA 1 or 2 days after the group buy ends, I'd like to use this opportunity to make up my mind on this set.

I've made an order but haven't paid it. Could I pay it (or cancel my order) slightly after the GB ends on the Ctrl.Alt.io site? If so who should I contact about it? Bunny or Matt3o ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:20:01
I will have the opportunity to try out SA 1 or 2 days after the group buy ends, I'd like to use this opportunity to make up my mind on this set.

I've made an order but haven't paid it. Could I pay it (or cancel my order) slightly after the GB ends on the Ctrl.Alt.io site? If so who should I contact about it? Bunny or Matt3o ?

ask Bunny!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:30:10
I will have the opportunity to try out SA 1 or 2 days after the group buy ends, I'd like to use this opportunity to make up my mind on this set.

I've made an order but haven't paid it. Could I pay it (or cancel my order) slightly after the GB ends on the Ctrl.Alt.io site? If so who should I contact about it? Bunny or Matt3o ?

ask Bunny!
Sent a pm, thx matt3o.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 11 May 2015, 11:24:18
I will have the opportunity to try out SA 1 or 2 days after the group buy ends, I'd like to use this opportunity to make up my mind on this set.

I've made an order but haven't paid it. Could I pay it (or cancel my order) slightly after the GB ends on the Ctrl.Alt.io site? If so who should I contact about it? Bunny or Matt3o ?

ask Bunny!
Sent a pm, thx matt3o.

ill check my pms now and get back to you sir
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 11 May 2015, 11:40:19
I want it all but my wallet says no :(.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:03:09
The first two things I thought after getting Hack'd by Geeks installed was, "I love this, but I wish the function row was R1", and "Wow, Retro DSA would be amazing in this profile".

What I'm saying, Matt3o, is you complete me.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:32:44
The first two things I thought after getting Hack'd by Geeks installed was, "I love this, but I wish the function row was R1", and "Wow, Retro DSA would be amazing in this profile".

What I'm saying, Matt3o, is you complete me.

I can call the day. I've got the Moderator's seal of approval. :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:07:43
What kit counts are we at now?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:28:40
I still waiting for some stats from Bunny. At the moment we are not seeing huge numbers anyway.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:57:07
I still waiting for some stats from Bunny. At the moment we are not seeing huge numbers anyway.

Early days yet, so don't worry they'll come running when the deadline looms.

This is your BEST ever key-set release hence be patient about the order numbers.  You've provided so many extras with this set it's unbelievable to even fully comprehend the possibilities in customizing any keyboard, with these beauties.

SA Retro is to die for  :o .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:33:19
not to say... this is limited edition :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:39:38
Gotta love Matt3o for being the only one offering options for non qwerty typist !

Next time cherry profile ? :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:39:57
Ordered and send paypal email to contact. No invoices yet.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rynji on Tue, 12 May 2015, 03:59:52
Any chance of getting a 5.5 spacebar for the Noppoo Choc Mini?
I will order one set if it gets added.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: frekedech on Tue, 12 May 2015, 07:30:52
Hi Bunny and matt3o, I have placed the order through ctrlalt site. When I checked my order, there are three of them where one says "Paid" (which I did) and the other two says "Unpaid" which I believe caused by me adding them into the cart.

How does the cancellation goes? I wish to keep the "Paid" one and remove the two "Unpaid" orders or perhaps I just leave it there?

Thanks and I can't believe the SA Retro is happening right now!! =p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 12 May 2015, 07:49:20
Hi Bunny and matt3o, I have placed the order through ctrlalt site. When I checked my order, there are three of them where one says "Paid" (which I did) and the other two says "Unpaid" which I believe caused by me adding them into the cart.

How does the cancellation goes? I wish to keep the "Paid" one and remove the two "Unpaid" orders or perhaps I just leave it there?

Thanks and I can't believe the SA Retro is happening right now!! =p

any unpaid orders will get cancelled at the end of the buy, so nothing to worry about this end good sir
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: frekedech on Tue, 12 May 2015, 09:24:34
Aye aye sir!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:46:39
SA Retro didn't have a boom-start, but orders are steady, uncommon for GBs where usually you get all orders on day-1 and the last day. If orders keep coming at the current pace we shouldn't have any problem.

It is very likely that we will be adding a bonus pack with side printed legends! That would make this set absolutely gorgeous!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:52:54
If a bonus pack happens I'd love to see a 75% support:
either pg up & pg down on r3 r4
or home & end on r3 r4 since we got them in R1 R2 in the main set.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:53:49
It would be instant buy for me with Topre sliders.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Tue, 12 May 2015, 13:32:48
My first GB, pretty excited. Only bought the red set, but keep wondering if i should try to add more..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 12 May 2015, 14:01:15
If a bonus pack happens I'd love to see a 75% support:
either pg up & pg down on r3 r4
or home & end on r3 r4 since we got them in R1 R2 in the main set.

that's actually a nice idea
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:43:59
It is very likely that we will be adding a bonus pack with side printed legends! That would make this set absolutely gorgeous!

Oh NICE  :o ,  imagine getting even MORE extras bundled with this key-set, now this is what makes CTRL/ALT so great here on Geekhack Central  :thumb: .

I think Retro will be the MOST complex, manufactured key-set released thus far, having legends on multiple sides.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 May 2015, 03:43:37
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: MAR82 on Wed, 13 May 2015, 05:06:16
It would be instant buy for me with Topre sliders.  :)

You could get the MX to Topre sliders from the JTK Debut GB  ;)

Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Now seeing this deal makes me really sad  :'( I really wished the base set had the mods and alphas separated.
People that want this bonus set will be forced to have two sets of alphas and people that wanted both mod colors and this will have three sets of alphas  :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 May 2015, 05:19:05
It would be instant buy for me with Topre sliders.  :)

You could get the MX to Topre sliders from the JTK Debut GB  ;)

Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Now seeing this deal makes me really sad  :'( I really wished the base set had the mods and alphas separated.
People that want this bonus set will be forced to have two sets of alphas and people that wanted both mod colors and this will have three sets of alphas  :(

blame Bunny :D

(kidding! I'm just kidding! I'm forever grateful to bunnylake for making this possible)

On a side note. The set so far sold around 85 base sets. It's nice but definitely not enough, especially most of the side kits haven't reach the MOQ yet. We definitely need more orders...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: MAR82 on Wed, 13 May 2015, 06:41:35
It would be instant buy for me with Topre sliders.  :)

You could get the MX to Topre sliders from the JTK Debut GB  ;)

Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Now seeing this deal makes me really sad  :'( I really wished the base set had the mods and alphas separated.
People that want this bonus set will be forced to have two sets of alphas and people that wanted both mod colors and this will have three sets of alphas  :(

blame Bunny :D

(kidding! I'm just kidding! I'm forever grateful to bunnylake for making this possible)

On a side note. The set so far sold around 85 base sets. It's nice but definitely not enough, especially most of the side kits haven't reach the MOQ yet. We definitely need more orders...

Yeah I don't think anyone can be blamed. I'm sure you would have liked to offer everything separately, and Bunny already has enough on his plate to deal with (personal life and all the GBs he's running and shipping out)
I haven't placed my order yet but I should be doing it soon  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Wed, 13 May 2015, 07:27:08
I'll wait toward the last week if to pick up another base set of we need for moq. Please keep us updated on that front.

On that note are there any special gifts for us special folk that jumped on the GB without a second thought?  I saw this and knew at the title that I needed to have this!  ;D

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 13 May 2015, 07:29:48
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)

OK... This has to be mine! I plan on putting in a $200ish order in soon for the ergodox I don't have yet ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 May 2015, 07:35:03
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


This is what I'm talking about, the HARDEST set of Key-cap porn yet released here in Group Buys.

Truly mesmerizing without any equal anywhere on this planet.  My wallet shall bleed terrifically this month, but having these mounted on a few of my keyboards is the main goal above all else.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:18:56
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


As you can probably guess based on my earlier post, I love the Vim key!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: MAR82 on Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:35:21
By any chance is there anyone that will be willing to sell me a grey F row?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:43:11
want to support SA Retro? Here's some code to place in your signature!

Code: [Select]
[url=https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro][img]http://i.imgur.com/N6lpkIh.png[/img][/url]
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:31:41
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.


Dammit, not going to be able to resist now. I'll just need to sell some crap. Plasma maybe  :)

Would still love a 4.5 unit space if that's a possibility.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Wed, 13 May 2015, 12:19:20
So...this may be an odd post, but a friend browsing the first page found the burgundy layout unattractive - and going back, I sort of get what she's saying. Now, I happen to think DSA Retro w. plum mods looks great, but it does look better on, say, a Poker w. green accents than on a 75% all red.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/11949293444_37ea04832a.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/11949293444_37ea04832a.jpg)
[not my photo]

Would never have occurred to me, but the original pic may be an unintentional turn-off for folks, s'all I'm saying...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:46:21
want to support SA Retro? Here's some code to place in your signature!

Code: [Select]
[url=https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro][img]http://i.imgur.com/N6lpkIh.png[/img][/url]

Too fvcking right, everyone that loves this SET should promote the living hell out of it, because this won't ever be done again.

Normally never have anyone's sig on my profile but this SA Retro actually makes me look cool,  once used a C64 during my schoolie years (before Apple was introduced).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 13 May 2015, 22:55:45
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Nuka Cola legend in Green, Brown, and Burgandy?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: xiphoid on Thu, 14 May 2015, 04:14:01
Ordered!!  I'm start waiting  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 14 May 2015, 07:41:34
Currently trying to see which kits I need to buy for my JIS Minila. Looks like some will need to be blanks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 14 May 2015, 11:15:24
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Still anxiously waiting!!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 May 2015, 13:42:45
Quick update.

SA Retro is going well and we are not overly worried, but we are still far from the target. Especially true retro needs more love. I'm sure the new bonus pack will help pushing the true retro but anyway as of now we still miss:

50-60 True retro base kits
20-30 Burgundy base kits

also both Numpad kits need more love.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Thu, 14 May 2015, 14:53:01
Matt3o, if it's not too late:

Maybe - in order to get some use out of the extra alphas - redundant ";',./" should be included in the PETSCII pack. Because that way, you at least have a complete alpha set to be used with a different set of SA mods. The extra alphas may be a waste anyway - but they will *definitely* be a waste if they're part of an incomplete set. And the cost of 5 extra keycaps probably won't deter anyone who wants the kit.

Or offer PETSCII as an "upgrade", rather than a separate kit? Or you could prevail again on Bunny to unbundle the modifiers. :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Thu, 14 May 2015, 14:55:00
Quick update.

SA Retro is going well and we are not overly worried, but we are still far from the target. Especially true retro needs more love. I'm sure the new bonus pack will help pushing the true retro but anyway as of now we still miss:

50-60 True retro base kits
20-30 Burgundy base kits

also both Numpad kits need more love.


Does that mean the Colemak/Dvorak pack tipped? :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 14 May 2015, 15:02:06
Quick update.

SA Retro is going well and we are not overly worried, but we are still far from the target. Especially true retro needs more love. I'm sure the new bonus pack will help pushing the true retro but anyway as of now we still miss:

50-60 True retro base kits
20-30 Burgundy base kits

also both Numpad kits need more love.


Does that mean the Colemak/Dvorak pack tipped? :)

There's no way. I was totally in for one, but with this new PETSCII option, it doesn't make as much sense. But still maybe, I guess I'll have to see when it hits.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 14 May 2015, 15:32:23
we dont have anything like dipping etc, everything gets made no matter what
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 14 May 2015, 16:22:17
I'm very excited for this set. Here's how I plan to use it (I have custom plates on the way):

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/8543a00a0efa4a439a446ce57bffee6c

With numpad:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/88288e4d840dfda52d550c3ae136641e

-potatowire
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Thu, 14 May 2015, 16:38:03
I'm very excited for this set. Here's how I plan to use it (I have custom plates on the way):

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/172a5fa136e6becffa6536feb3f190fb

With numpad:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/2c2f2c963b3fba25d61004cbe52b8c6c

-potatowire

What board is that going on PotatoWire? What PCB are you using?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 14 May 2015, 16:45:30
I'm very excited for this set. Here's how I plan to use it (I have custom plates on the way):

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/172a5fa136e6becffa6536feb3f190fb

With numpad:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/2c2f2c963b3fba25d61004cbe52b8c6c

-potatowire

What board is that going on PotatoWire? What PCB are you using?

Mashby,

I am getting some custom plates done through Jack Humbert of ortholinearkeyboards.com, which I'll hand-wire for now. Since I want boards for work, home, and travel (with Bluetooth), I may do a PCB later.

-potatowire
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:08:24
I'm very excited for this set. Here's how I plan to use it (I have custom plates on the way):

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/172a5fa136e6becffa6536feb3f190fb

With numpad:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/2c2f2c963b3fba25d61004cbe52b8c6c

-potatowire

oh wow, that's sexy!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:12:39
I'm very excited for this set. Here's how I plan to use it (I have custom plates on the way):

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/172a5fa136e6becffa6536feb3f190fb

With numpad:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/2c2f2c963b3fba25d61004cbe52b8c6c

-potatowire

What board is that going on PotatoWire? What PCB are you using?

Mashby,

I am getting some custom plates done through Jack Humbert of ortholinearkeyboards.com, which I'll hand-wire for now. Since I want boards for work, home, and travel (with Bluetooth), I may do a PCB later.

-potatowire

you are a wizard sir, love your work
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:36:12
we dont have anything like dipping etc, everything gets made no matter what

I get that it's not going to fail to be made, but as one of the lead proponents of adding the Colemak kit, I want to make sure that you're not stuck with the bill if it falls short. I'd like to see more Colemak support in the future, so I really want to see this kit succeed.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 14 May 2015, 17:41:55
we dont have anything like dipping etc, everything gets made no matter what

I get that it's not going to fail to be made, but as one of the lead proponents of adding the Colemak kit, I want to make sure that you're not stuck with the bill if it falls short. I'd like to see more Colemak support in the future, so I really want to see this kit succeed.

the colemak kit is actually doing pretty well, ideally we would like to see 10 more total sold, but it wont be the end of the world if that doesnt happen
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 14 May 2015, 18:06:30
oh wow, that's sexy!

The set looks good on everything!

you are a wizard sir, love your work

You are both very kind, but I can't take that much credit. I worked with my friend on it, and I owe inspiration to the Cartesian Longboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68818.0) design.

The big thing that jumped out at me about Ethan's layout was the symmetrical hand placement. As soon I saw this, normal 60% keyboards started bugging me, and I knew I had to build a new keyboard. I started out with the columnar layout but eventually went back to staggered.

In his, and this design, when your hands are on the home keys, they are in the exact middle of the entire board. I made the bonus keys on the left 1u because I wanted there to be a gap for the sake of feel when blindly reaching with the left pinkie.

Anyway, no one asked for more detail, but here you go anyway!

-potatowire
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 May 2015, 18:56:08
Excuse my ignorance but what keyboards do the 3u and 4u spacebars work with?

Also, any Planck support? Looks like there is some support unofficially.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 15 May 2015, 02:02:53
Excuse my ignorance but what keyboards do the 3u and 4u spacebars work with?

Also, any Planck support? Looks like there is some support unofficially.

not a planck expert but it seems to be supported... probably with some blanks
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Fri, 15 May 2015, 10:41:41
Excuse my ignorance but what keyboards do the 3u and 4u spacebars work with?

Also, any Planck support? Looks like there is some support unofficially.

not a planck expert but it seems to be supported... probably with some blanks

Planck is mostly good to go with the base kit and Pro Mods, plus any 2u blank in Row 3 for the space bar or maybe the + key from either of the Numberpad kits.  I think the only thing missing is the 1u Caps Lock (or Shift Lock) on Row 3, but there are suitable substitutes elsewhere.

Likewise for Atomic layout, except a couple more 2u blanks would be needed.  Blanks could be harvested from the Ergodox kit in a pinch but the colors wouldn't match the alphas.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Fri, 15 May 2015, 10:43:39
Excuse my ignorance but what keyboards do the 3u and 4u spacebars work with?

Also, any Planck support? Looks like there is some support unofficially.

not a planck expert but it seems to be supported... probably with some blanks

The Filco Minila uses a 3 unit spacebar. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some Japanese layout that used it as well. I don't think I've ever seen a board that uses a 4 unit space, but according to the other web site's wiki it's used by Tipro. The Tex Beetle and the Pure Pro use a 4.5 unit space.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 15 May 2015, 17:37:32
I think there is an error on the mockups on the ctrlalt.io site. There is only a stepped R3 control key, the non-stepped control says that it is R4 :S

As for for Plancks you can either use the 2u shift as the space bar, or use one of the 2u R3 blanks in the Ergodox kit. For the Atomic, you will have to buy the pro mods and the Ergodox kit to get a 2u R3 blank to use as the return key. All in all there is support if you are willing to pay for it, which is to be expected with a niche board :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: cletus on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:22:47
I just wanted to double check -- the "true retro" main package should have all the keys needed for a WASD V2, right?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:35:17
I just wanted to double check -- the "true retro" main package should have all the keys needed for a WASD V2, right?

Thanks!

unless it has some crazy spacebar spacing (which i dont think it does) then yeah it contains everything you need
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 15 May 2015, 21:29:30
I just wanted to double check -- the "true retro" main package should have all the keys needed for a WASD V2, right?

Thanks!

unless it has some crazy spacebar spacing (which i dont think it does) then yeah it contains everything you need

You can't go wrong with a WASD barebone keyboard, especially since they actually supply all Green or Clear CherryMX switches  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:15:15
I think there is an error on the mockups on the ctrlalt.io site. There is only a stepped R3 control key, the non-stepped control says that it is R4 :S

we will be adding both keys (in R4 and R3)! It's an error on my part (and nobody noticed until the GB was up :P)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:32:30
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:02:04
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Sat, 16 May 2015, 15:54:41
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.
I don't know about anyone else, but I was holding out for the PETSCII legends before placing my order.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:16:44
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.
I don't know about anyone else, but I was holding out for the PETSCII legends before placing my order.
Same. I need them :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:20:17
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.

we would need to get 25 orders really for the add on to be worth doing, so if we could get a show of hands
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rickyhobby on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:26:57
I'll add on a PETSCII to my order (and probably another base set).

Rick
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: atectatifern on Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:26:14
Would be in for PETSCII as well!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:34:26
a show of hands

I'm probably in, but if the price was mentioned earlier, I missed it. Last I saw, Matt3o asked for a quote.

-potatowire

EDIT: I was a dummy and forgot that Matt30 told us the expected price. Mea culpa.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:46:35
a show of hands

I'm probably in, but if the price was mentioned earlier, I missed it. Last I saw, Matt3o asked for a quote.

-potatowire

Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:52:17
Oops, I do remember that. I shoulda checked. I'll definitely get one. Who am I kidding?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: micr0n on Sat, 16 May 2015, 22:49:20
I might had missed the DSA set, but I'm sure as hell not missing this SA set.  Just ordered up a few days ago.  Hopefully we can get the tipping point so that I can add the PETSCII set as well. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Sat, 16 May 2015, 23:12:21
I might had missed the DSA set, but I'm sure as hell not missing this SA set.  Just ordered up a few days ago.  Hopefully we can get the tipping point so that I can add the PETSCII set as well.
Bunny said there's no tipping point. Currently trying to figure out if there are 25 people willing to purchase the PETSCII set. That brings us to 5 if my count is correct. Come on, that's close enough! ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 17 May 2015, 01:02:30
a show of hands

I'm probably in, but if the price was mentioned earlier, I missed it. Last I saw, Matt3o asked for a quote.

-potatowire

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71636.msg1747819#msg1747819  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:32:51
Well, finally sorted out my finance for the month and ordered this :)

This set is an insta-classic! If anyone misses out on this one, they're going to regret it when the pics start rolling in!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SL89 on Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:02:59
I'd be interested in that kit.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Sun, 17 May 2015, 16:39:09
Later today I'm asking a quote for the following. If there's anything you'd like to see in it, just let me know.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/036IRPQ.png)


Maybe I missed it, but are the side printed graphics part of the retro set, or is this going to be an add on?

It will be an add on. They are too expensive for the base set.

I believe the above kit will go around $50-60. I still don't know when (and if) it will go live, that's totally up to Bunny, but the set is not terribly successful so... don't hold your breath.

we would need to get 25 orders really for the add on to be worth doing, so if we could get a show of hands

This is my hand.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:57:23
This set is an insta-classic! If anyone misses out on this one, they're going to regret it when the pics start rolling in!

Oobly's right here, this key-set will become one of those INSTANT Classics when Googled by noobs of the future.

They would gasp and faint at the sight of these when the photos are first upped here on Geekhack, and eventually circulate around the world for everyone to see.  For those still hesitating about jumping onboard this Group Buy,  think about how much of a loser you'll be when you had the chance but refused to be a part of history here.  Explain that to your Grand kiddies on why you never participated in this famous event........

Great occasions only come around rarely so this opportunity has finally presented itself, hence grab it with both hands and pray you don't end up like some pathetic dweeb wishing he could of owned it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: freefall316 on Sun, 17 May 2015, 22:12:01
This is truly a classic set.  Place my order today.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:09:36
Having a hard time deciding between True Retro and Retro Burgundy.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:11:07
Having a hard time deciding between True Retro and Retro Burgundy.

true retro could use a little boost, so if you are sat on the fence and your decision is a coin flip, that would help out the most
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:19:26
True Retro. no question about it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Mon, 18 May 2015, 08:45:36
I think we're still under ten for the show of hands on PETSCII. So it's a no go?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 18 May 2015, 09:45:11
 I'll be going in on the True Retro when a decision on the PETSCII has been made :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 18 May 2015, 10:08:49
I'll be going in on the True Retro when a decision on the PETSCII has been made :)

its gonna be added shortly
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 18 May 2015, 10:10:32
I'll be going in on the True Retro when a decision on the PETSCII has been made :)

its gonna be added shortly
I'm prepping my wallet for destruction! Thanks guys :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: simbloke on Mon, 18 May 2015, 11:24:38
Just gone for it. True Retro + ISO  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 18 May 2015, 15:02:04
Having a hard time deciding between True Retro and Retro Burgundy.

true retro could use a little boost, so if you are sat on the fence and your decision is a coin flip, that would help out the most
Really the only thing keeping me from getting both is not wanting to be left with the extra keys from the set I only use the modifiers from. I think I will just get true though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Tue, 19 May 2015, 01:50:22
retro burgundy base+10key ordered
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:06:16
hey guys

the add on kit should be up some time later today

ive had food poisoning or some awful bug the last few days, so i been running a bit behind, but its definitely happening, itll be up soon, and we will also shoot an email to anyone with a current order to let them know when its live
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:08:26
YES!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:24:43
Man... wish I had the extra fundage right now for a couple of sets. I bet the PETSCII set will be one people will be willing to pay double for when they realized they missed it.

But alas, I must also buy Modern Selectric and Jukebox.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: micr0n on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:10:20
Oh snap!  I'm getting all ecstatic.   :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 19 May 2015, 10:14:03
Thinking I will go True Retro and get the PETSCII add on, I have too many two tone sets any way :) Still debating grabbing a second base set just to keep one in reserve though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 19 May 2015, 11:39:18
hey guys

the add on kit should be up some time later today

ive had food poisoning or some awful bug the last few days, so i been running a bit behind, but its definitely happening, itll be up soon, and we will also shoot an email to anyone with a current order to let them know when its live

Excellent news! (about the set)

Hope you feel better Bunny.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 19 May 2015, 17:12:14
the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Tue, 19 May 2015, 17:52:48
the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal

Thanks for fighting the fountains of fluids and getting this up BunnyLake!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:26:42
Been F5'ing for PETSCII - thanks!

Only just noticed large spacebar kit. Both are already included in base, yes?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:32:13
the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal

Woop. Order placed  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: atectatifern on Tue, 19 May 2015, 18:35:33
Just placed an add-on order for one also. Can't wait for that Commodore goodness!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 19 May 2015, 20:32:50
Happily ordered my PETSCII set! Next, SA Retro bonus pack!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: sdiearly on Tue, 19 May 2015, 21:58:08
the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal

Hi Bunny,

About PETSCII , what is the processing of side print? laser or molding?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 19 May 2015, 22:03:17
Happily ordered my PETSCII set! Next, SA Retro bonus pack!

Oh... I forgot about the bonus pack  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Hofy on Tue, 19 May 2015, 22:48:55
Did this GB just get extended another week?  It now says 13 days left.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 May 2015, 00:29:18
Did this GB just get extended another week?  It now says 13 days left.

Looks like it to me
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 00:31:52
Did this GB just get extended another week?  It now says 13 days left.

it is indeed extended.

Hi Bunny,

About PETSCII , what is the processing of side print? laser or molding?

pad printed (SP can offer only that).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 00:49:34
PETSCII makes it worth it. Is it possible to cover a fullsize board using PETSCII for the alphas and other kits to fill the rest out. I'm not sure profile would allow for it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 01:43:57
PETSCII makes it worth it. Is it possible to cover a fullsize board using PETSCII for the alphas and other kits to fill the rest out. I'm not sure profile would allow for it.

not sure I follow, sorry. Of course you can! :) You probably won't use a couple of petscii, but still doable
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 20 May 2015, 01:45:16
Did this GB just get extended another week?  It now says 13 days left.

it is indeed extended.

Hi Bunny,

About PETSCII , what is the processing of side print? laser or molding?

pad printed (SP can offer only that).

Sorry to be a noob but what is the longevity like with pad printing on the front of the caps? I'm guessing it's ages because they never get touched?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 02:15:58
Sorry to be a noob but what is the longevity like with pad printing on the front of the caps? I'm guessing it's ages because they never get touched?

have you ever seen a commodore 64 (even after 30 years) with faded out side printed legends? :D That's your answer
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: MrFex on Wed, 20 May 2015, 03:30:27
Hi Matt3o, great looking set. I might also participate, still thinking about it. One of the things I noticed is that you have a RACE in the OP, what caps did you put op F-row? R1 caps? How is that working out? I'd also like to put them on a RACE which is why I am asking. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 03:36:48
the race is not mine, the picture is taken from keypuller.com

The row profile actually works very well on a race, but I'm not sure you have all the needed keys! (please double check, the race has very weird sized keys)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rynji on Wed, 20 May 2015, 05:02:19
the race is not mine, the picture is taken from keypuller.com

The row profile actually works very well on a race, but I'm not sure you have all the needed keys! (please double check, the race has very weird sized keys)
I've got the Race II 84 ordered for the SA Retro set. I have ordered the base set and the Pro Mods for the 1u ctrl, alt etc. and the 1,75 shift.
As far as i know these are the only extraordinary caps on the Race 2 84.
Would like some confirmation though.

Keycool 84, my bad.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 05:34:47
the race is not mine, the picture is taken from keypuller.com

The row profile actually works very well on a race, but I'm not sure you have all the needed keys! (please double check, the race has very weird sized keys)
I've got the Race II 84 ordered for the SA Retro set. I have ordered the base set and the Pro Mods for the 1u ctrl, alt etc. and the 1,75 shift.
As far as i know these are the only extraordinary caps on the Race 2 84.
Would like some confirmation though.

the arrow keys seem 1.25 (maybe 1.5?) as well as END.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rynji on Wed, 20 May 2015, 05:46:31
I ordered this one (Kailh Red Switches)
(http://i.imgur.com/iIZItRn.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 20 May 2015, 05:59:17
I ordered this one (Kailh Red Switches)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iIZItRn.png)


That's not a KBT Race II, it's a Keycool 84.

The profile of PgUp, PgDn and End won't match correctly, but they should be usable.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 20 May 2015, 06:15:54
Sorry to be a noob but what is the longevity like with pad printing on the front of the caps? I'm guessing it's ages because they never get touched?

have you ever seen a commodore 64 (even after 30 years) with faded out side printed legends? :D That's your answer

100% authenticity on this key-set  ;D .

Thought I could live without any PETSCII on my keys but now is the time to front up for REAL and get these babies.  This would have to be the MOST graphically illustrated key-set ever released here on Geekhack, thanks Matt3o  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rynji on Wed, 20 May 2015, 06:32:29
I ordered this one (Kailh Red Switches)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iIZItRn.png)


That's not a KBT Race II, it's a Keycool 84.

The profile of PgUp, PgDn and End won't match correctly, but they should be usable.
My bad, mixed up the names (Race 2 84... lol)
I'll be good then, nice.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 20 May 2015, 06:38:22
hey guys, i just got up (still feeling like death) i have a ton of emails to get through about adding kits and paypal payments etc, im just on my way out the door, i got baby appointments for a few hours, so just to say im not ignoring anyone, and ill work through them when i get home
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: teuf on Wed, 20 May 2015, 06:51:55
the arrow keys seem 1.25 (maybe 1.5?) as well as END.

Yes, iirc they are 1.25. The granite bonus pack icons ( http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/granite-bonus-pack-icon/ ) had them in the right size. Too bad my KBT Race got stolen before I got a chance to try these keys on it :-/
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:31:20
Matt3o, I meant instead of getting the base set and PETSCII, would it be possible to kit out a board with correctly profiled caps. From PETSCII and other kits I looked more into it and you are right. It is doable, but I'll probably just get PETSCII as a second alpha set regardless.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:46:39
I can't imagine how anyone could resist the PETSCII set. Of course, I'm obsessed, so what do I know...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:09:22
I can't imagine how anyone could resist the PETSCII set. Of course, I'm obsessed, so what do I know...

I want it, I just also want everything else so I have to make a sacrifice on something. I have cut my projected order down to True Retro, PETSCII, Lime, and Alternate Functions. That is still like 200$ so I am thinking about not getting the Alt functions and Lime. I originally wanted both base sets and the PETSCII and Lime and Alt Functions but I came to realize that I had to use some of my paycheck for food and gas. If I could combine shipping on this order with my JTK Debut order I could save a little more money but I want my sets as soon as I can get them and combining a shipment could make me wait longer.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:20:24
Matt3o, I meant instead of getting the base set and PETSCII, would it be possible to kit out a board with correctly profiled caps. From PETSCII and other kits I looked more into it and you are right. It is doable, but I'll probably just get PETSCII as a second alpha set regardless.

The only way to make it work with PETSCII and without one of the base sets is if you have a layout that doesnt use - a space bar, a standard tab key, a standard return key.

For me, I've got the True Retro set and plan on swapping the alphas with the PETSCII. I also got the ErgoDox kit (and few of the blank kits) so I can use the left over alpha keys with them :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:32:38
I can't imagine how anyone could resist the PETSCII set. Of course, I'm obsessed, so what do I know...

I want it, I just also want everything else so I have to make a sacrifice on something. I have cut my projected order down to True Retro, PETSCII, Lime, and Alternate Functions. That is still like 200$ so I am thinking about not getting the Alt functions and Lime. I originally wanted both base sets and the PETSCII and Lime and Alt Functions but I came to realize that I had to use some of my paycheck for food and gas. If I could combine shipping on this order with my JTK Debut order I could save a little more money but I want my sets as soon as I can get them and combining a shipment could make me wait longer.

I'm with you, and I think you made a good compromise. I kept back a little bit to buy food for the kids...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:33:45
Pardon me but what's the significance for the PETSCII?  Since this is a throwback to the commodore what would make me want in on that particular add-on set for historical goodness?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:38:02
Pardon me but what's the significance for the PETSCII?  Since this is a throwback to the commodore what would make me want in on that particular add-on set for historical goodness?

Here is pictorial incentive.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Wed, 20 May 2015, 11:08:58
Pardon me but what's the significance for the PETSCII?  Since this is a throwback to the commodore what would make me want in on that particular add-on set for historical goodness?

Here is pictorial incentive.

Now I can see the dilemma between true retro and burgundy being more difficult. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 20 May 2015, 11:20:56
Pardon me but what's the significance for the PETSCII?  Since this is a throwback to the commodore what would make me want in on that particular add-on set for historical goodness?

Here is pictorial incentive.

Now I can see the dilemma between true retro and burgundy being more difficult.

I went with True Retro (I switched from Burgundy) and will highlight some modifier keys with color using the Alternate Functions and Lime kits.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 20 May 2015, 11:26:07
added C64 picture to OP :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: micr0n on Wed, 20 May 2015, 11:55:53
Order revised.  Now let's see what kind of damage this had on my wallet.   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ribo on Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:47:39
I'd love to see just a R1 Vim key...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 20 May 2015, 14:35:00
I'd love to see just a R1 Vim key...

They exist, I'm sure you can get one from the classifieds eventually.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 20 May 2015, 19:03:46
I'm leaning towards True Retro, but I can't asses whether Burgundy one is better, If I decide to join, I'm also going to buy the Pro Mods and the Apple Pack, so the decision is a hard one :)

For a while in the past, I enjoyed using white on black keycaps with a single white on green Esc, that's why I'm leaning towards the True Retro simplicity

The addition packs are certainly very well though, however it would have been great to be able to buy 1.25/1.75 blanks too (At least the 1.5/2's are available through the ErgoDox packs in general :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 20 May 2015, 19:06:19
I'm leaning towards True Retro, but I can't asses whether Burgundy one is better, If I decide to join, I'm also going to buy the Pro Mods and the Apple Pack, so the decision is a hard one :)

For a while in the past, I enjoyed using white on black keycaps with a single white on green Esc, that's why I'm leaning towards the True Retro simplicity

The addition packs are certainly very well though, however it would have been great to be able to buy 1.25/1.75 blanks too (At least the 1.5/2's are available through the ErgoDox packs in general :)

the true retro set definitely needs some more love sir
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 20 May 2015, 20:04:56
the true retro set definitely needs some more love sir

I'm going to give it a whole lotta love.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 20:27:20
How can I add the petscii pack to my existing order? I don't see a way to modify or add to my order. Am I just... missing something?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 20 May 2015, 20:29:36
How can I add the petscii pack to my existing order? I don't see a way to modify or add to my order. Am I just... missing something?

Look on page 6

the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Quantumcross on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:17:07
Hey I'm new here. I really want to buy this set for my fiancee. Why isn't there a PETSCII base pack? I don't want to have buy the PETSCII set + the base set, that's a LOT of alpha keys that I won't be using...

Is there a way to buy the base set but sub in the PETSCII legends?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:19:05
How can I add the petscii pack to my existing order? I don't see a way to modify or add to my order. Am I just... missing something?

Look on page 6

the add on pack is now live and on the site

if you already have an order and wish to add it, simply place an order, leave it unpaid and email me using the contact form on the site, including the new and old order number, and a paypal email, and i can invoice you for the kit minus postage

if you dont have an order yet, you can order as normal

Yep, I just missed it. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:17:16
Hey I'm new here. I really want to buy this set for my fiancee. Why isn't there a PETSCII base pack? I don't want to have buy the PETSCII set + the base set, that's a LOT of alpha keys that I won't be using...

Is there a way to buy the base set but sub in the PETSCII legends?

Short answer, no.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:57:44
the true retro set definitely needs some more love sir

I'm going to give it a whole lotta love.  :D

If you're going the full hog on your Retro Installed Keyboard, then I want lots of photos/videos showing all that hardcore action  8) .

Remember I'm a dirty old man wanting to see youngsters debase themselves with their keyboards here on Geekhack  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 21 May 2015, 07:03:50
the true retro set definitely needs some more love sir

I'm going to give it a whole lotta love.  :D

If you're going the full hog on your Retro Installed Keyboard, then I want lots of photos/videos showing all that hardcore action  8) .

Remember I'm a dirty old man wanting to see youngsters debase themselves with their keyboards here on Geekhack  ;) .

i love every post elrick makes 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Thu, 21 May 2015, 07:53:56
the true retro set definitely needs some more love sir

I'm going to give it a whole lotta love.  :D

If you're going the full hog on your Retro Installed Keyboard, then I want lots of photos/videos showing all that hardcore action  8) .

Remember I'm a dirty old man wanting to see youngsters debase themselves with their keyboards here on Geekhack  ;) .

i love every post elrick makes

He is a treasure.

An inappropriate, over-the-top treasure.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 21 May 2015, 10:20:18
How many people here would be interested in having bump home keys that matched this set? (vs deep dish homes)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rickyhobby on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:09:42
I would like to have bump homes to use optionally.  Been using them on my 1976.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 21 May 2015, 14:07:15
How many people here would be interested in having bump home keys that matched this set? (vs deep dish homes)

Yes please... I find the deep dish a little too subtle sometimes, the little bump is super-tactile and easy to feel.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: atectatifern on Thu, 21 May 2015, 18:27:23
Loving the bumps on 1976 also--would be awesome if SA Retro has bumps on F/J.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 21 May 2015, 18:30:13
I imagine that it would be too late to ask to add such a kit onto this group buy, but I was thinking if enough people were interested, it can't be that difficult to manage a 2 key buy.

(or who knows, maybe 4 & 7 home keys too...)

I don't think the original commodore had home keys at all, but I think we can forgive ourselves for not going full retro.

Then again, I was considering getting this set with colemak since for other sets colemak is not making the cut, so there's a lot to think about.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:39:56
I like homing bumps. If there was a set with Colemak homing bump keys, I'd buy 2.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 21 May 2015, 21:34:35
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 21 May 2015, 22:22:03
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)

While I totally agree that it's too late in the game for a homing bump argument, earlier in the thread, Bunny said all sets are being made:

we dont have anything like dipping etc, everything gets made no matter what
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 21 May 2015, 22:28:17
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)

While I totally agree that it's too late in the game for a homing bump argument, earlier in the thread, Bunny said all sets are being made:

we dont have anything like dipping etc, everything gets made no matter what
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was disputing that. I just mean forum post for interest (as seen above) do not equal guaranteed sales.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 May 2015, 00:24:13
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was disputing that. I just mean forum post for interest (as seen above) do not equal guaranteed sales.

Still two weeks to go hence it shall pick up.  Most are still gathering their moolah in the hope of meeting the current deadline so there is still great desire in my heart that this baby rolls on into SP's factory.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 May 2015, 01:20:34
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)

what this guy says is so true that I'm almost crying.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JClf_gkUKDU/T5R7PNdhu2I/AAAAAAAAEP4/KpvV0fv-FQY/s1600/Crying-meme.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 22 May 2015, 01:35:00
Well, CTRL|ALT have got SP to make the Penumbra and Hack'd by Geeks deep dish homing keys and are sending them on to those with those sets, so I'm sure a small run afterwards is possible if enough people buy the set as it is.

So come on, order some more Retro!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 May 2015, 03:28:22
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)

what this guy says is so true that I'm almost crying.

Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JClf_gkUKDU/T5R7PNdhu2I/AAAAAAAAEP4/KpvV0fv-FQY/s1600/Crying-meme.png)


Cheer up Matt, Geekhack isn't that cruel or defunct of any loyalty and honour.  The ones who signaled their intention shall buy into this set BUT those evil, miserable pieces of SH1T that constantly demanded these upgrades and add-ons, know who they are.  Pretending to ignore this Group Buy like no one will know their cowardly disgrace when making those demands from Matt3o to include them.

Geekhack never forgets those scum-bags whose words mean absolutely nothing so when they try again to push another person to deliver a Group Buy, I shall be there behind you with a huge, splintery stick ready to impale your rotten lying mouth onto it, you shall know the true meaning of Deep Throating your own lies.

People who make promises don't deserve any sympathy because many do indeed believe in keeping their word and intention, despite monetary troubles because that is what a Man shall always do, stick to his words above all else.

Hate seeing Matt cry due to some liars backing away from the Greatest Retro Set ever to be made, in anyone's lifetime.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 May 2015, 03:37:42
nah! don't make a drama out of it. it's just how things go :) I do not hold a grudge against anybody.

I'm very easy going, it is what it is, I like what I do, I have no regrets :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:22:02
(http://i.imgur.com/R0VpYLJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Fri, 22 May 2015, 09:41:10
Got my order in. First set, first post, super excited!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 May 2015, 10:51:08
Got my order in. First set, first post, super excited!

good start, mate :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:33:28
Two questions..

On the Pro Mods, is the 2u shift key actually row4? I didn't know if you were going to make the "shifts" all row3 like in the regular full retro set.

Is the 3u space bar concave or convex? I'm asking because initially I thought the 3u bar would be convex. But, then I looked at the Signature Plastics SA chart. It looks like they don't make convex keys at 3u.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:53:45
Ordered, can't wait  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:59:27
People, really constructive chat but it would have been most helpful in the interest check phase of SA Retro. With less than two weeks left in the group buy I doubt such kits would get the love that they deserve.

As stated already by Matt3o and Bunny in this thread, a lot of the kits that people already drummed up interest for in the IC (international, colemak etc) are not converting into buys. So your passion for alternate homing keys is going to be taken with a pinch of salt.  :)

As I made evident in my first post regarding home keys for this set, I did not intend to ask for it to be included with the original group buy, otherwise you would be right. If it went forward it would be a separate buy. All we would need are 50 votes for it to go forward, and we wouldn't even need the original 50 people to purchase the kit; I'd buy 4 sets, and at least 4 other sets are already desired above, meaning we're already 1/6th the way there. Have hope.

(ps. we wouldn't actually need 50 purchases in the end, of course, the moq is variable)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 May 2015, 21:45:55
Got my order in. First set, first post, super excited!

Good choice here.  My first order was the DSA version of Matt's Retro Key-set, simply superb looking on any keyboard  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: k1rnu on Sat, 23 May 2015, 06:06:57
This is my first cap set too. I'm a little worried how the sculpting will affect the feel for gaming but we'll see! They just looked so fine I had to take part in this :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sat, 23 May 2015, 07:32:25
First SA set but love the retro color set.  It's all experimentation at this point so why not?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 23 May 2015, 08:15:49
What's the point of the R3 2.25 shift?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 23 May 2015, 08:22:47
What's the point of the R3 2.25 shift?

sorry?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Dog on Sat, 23 May 2015, 08:33:45
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Sat, 23 May 2015, 08:35:22
What's the point of the R3 2.25 shift?
Are you asking why it's R3 when it's clearly sitting on row 4? SP unfortunately doesn't have molds for R4 Shift keys.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:58:57
First group buy! I miss my Commodore  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 26 May 2015, 06:49:56
Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: simbloke on Tue, 26 May 2015, 07:34:17
Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P
For me, I'm stuck on ISO. Wish I weren't, it would make things a lot easier.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Tue, 26 May 2015, 07:56:22
Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P

I'm tempted every day. =D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 26 May 2015, 09:20:22
Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P

If you give us an update in the last day or two, I might able to scrape together for another PETSCII set  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: idlebot on Tue, 26 May 2015, 10:10:09
First post, first group buy purchase. Hey Matt, am I the first one from Brazil?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 26 May 2015, 11:22:27
First post, first group buy purchase. Hey Matt, am I the first one from Brazil?

not sure, but the more the merrier! :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:35:04

Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P

Possible that unpaid-combined orders don't show until paid? I know I'm still waiting for my invoice for the petscii add-on to my original order.

(Bunnylake, take my money!)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:42:19
If ctrlalt.io wasn't blocked from my office i'd be tempted to go add to my order (unless it's too late? I don't recall when the last day is..)

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:53:53

Very slowly all kits are tipping. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't reach 25 PETSCII yet. It's the "raison d'etre" of this set. Get it now or regret it forever! :P

Possible that unpaid-combined orders don't show until paid? I know I'm still waiting for my invoice for the petscii add-on to my original order.

(Bunnylake, take my money!)

Ask bunny directly (PM or email from the website)

If ctrlalt.io wasn't blocked from my office i'd be tempted to go add to my order (unless it's too late? I don't recall when the last day is..)

it's not too late :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:54:09
If ctrlalt.io wasn't blocked from my office i'd be tempted to go add to my order (unless it's too late? I don't recall when the last day is..)



You're good, 6 days left.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 27 May 2015, 22:28:51
Finally ordered. True Retro for my Minila. ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Thu, 28 May 2015, 11:36:07
I heard that SP finally has row 4 for the shift key available?  Any confirmation on this and would SA Retro be moving toward that?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 May 2015, 11:38:36
I heard that SP finally has row 4 for the shift key available?  Any confirmation on this and would SA Retro be moving toward that?

source?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 28 May 2015, 11:38:59
I heard that SP finally has row 4 for the shift key available?  Any confirmation on this and would SA Retro be moving toward that?

where did you hear that?!!??!!?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Thu, 28 May 2015, 11:42:19
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/modern-selectric/

Skully mentions something about other rows available on the bottom in the comments section for, what I assume, his design.  I'm frantically trying to find such announcement though and I'll have to shift through all the threads on the new PMK website.

edit:
If i may have jumped the gun please disregard.  BUT!  If you can confirm for us that sounds like it would be a pretty big deal according to that reaction.
Edit v2:
I maaaaay have dun goofed.  Searched and nothing.  I asked skully on PMK so hopefully we'll see. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 28 May 2015, 12:21:33
Going over the child buys before I finalize my order, and a couple questions arose:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:06:48
Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) the shifts were still in R3.

Going over the child buys before I finalize my order, and a couple questions arose:
  • The Big Spacebars set comes with 6.25u and 7u bars, but aren't those included in the base set? Are they intended to be extras?
  • The Lime set comes with a R2 Esc. Where on earth would you put that?

1. yes, they are extras. The spacebars are already included in the base set
2. I'd be damned if I remember :D The JD40 maybe?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 13:21:08

Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) the shifts were still in R3.

Going over the child buys before I finalize my order, and a couple questions arose:
  • The Big Spacebars set comes with 6.25u and 7u bars, but aren't those included in the base set? Are they intended to be extras?
  • The Lime set comes with a R2 Esc. Where on earth would you put that?

1. yes, they are extras. The spacebars are already included in the base set
2. I'd be damned if I remember :D The JD40 maybe?

2. I think the plank does... so any 40%-ish build with 4 rows?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 28 May 2015, 17:07:53
I dont think this was answered but...

Is the 3u spacebar concave or convex?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 28 May 2015, 17:28:55
2.  So lets say a JD40 was I dunno out there somewhere.  I was wondering about the Return key...  Would you, I'm simply throwing it out there, need a R3 Return key from the Pro Mods group?
 :p
Currently loaded up for
Small Spacebars
Big Spacebars
Burgundy Numberpad
Ergodox
Alternate Functions
PETSCII
Retro Burgundy
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 28 May 2015, 17:48:12
I'm probably going to end up ordering True Retro with a lot of mods, I've tried to resist, but I probably won't be able to

What's the surface type by the way, is it glossy again?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 28 May 2015, 19:48:17
I'm probably going to end up ordering True Retro with a lot of mods, I've tried to resist, but I probably won't be able to

What's the surface type by the way, is it glossy again?

YES, you can not resist this, it's the Ultimate RETRO key-set to furnish any keyboard on the planet.

Even young Catholic Schoolgirls will note your prowess in showing such a HUGE key-set to them.  Never deny the young an opportunity to experience something truly "SPECIAL" in their lives  8) .

YES the surface type is Glossy like Scarlett's Lipstick.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 29 May 2015, 00:38:12
I'm probably going to end up ordering True Retro with a lot of mods, I've tried to resist, but I probably won't be able to

What's the surface type by the way, is it glossy again?

semi-matte

I dont think this was answered but...

Is the 3u spacebar concave or convex?

concave (it's not actually a spacebar but a 3unit key)

YES, you can not resist this, it's the Ultimate RETRO key-set to furnish any keyboard on the planet.

Even young Catholic Schoolgirls will note your prowess in showing such a HUGE key-set to them.  Never deny the young an opportunity to experience something truly "SPECIAL" in their lives  8) .

YES the surface type is Glossy like Scarlett's Lipstick.

LOL!  :))

2.  So lets say a JD40 was I dunno out there somewhere.  I was wondering about the Return key...  Would you, I'm simply throwing it out there, need a R3 Return key from the Pro Mods group?

1u return has been requested in the IC. You never know when you need one :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:09:05
last 4 days of this guys

order now or forever hold your peace
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:22:07
last 4 days of this guys

order now or forever hold your peace
Could you give us some stats (how many of which sets are ordered, and what were the MOQ that you need to order from SP), pretty please?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:28:28
last 4 days of this guys

order now or forever hold your peace
Could you give us some stats (how many of which sets are ordered, and what were the MOQ that you need to order from SP), pretty please?

there is no MOQ, everything will get made
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:44:58
I have a feeling I've stumbled down the rabbit hole... So hello everyone, I'm in for True Retro+Num, ISO, PETSCII & INT(Nordic)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:48:26
This is wonderful art, for a person whose first foray into computing and gaming was a C64. Kudos to the designer, it really is quite amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:49:29
last 4 days of this guys

order now or forever hold your peace
Could you give us some stats (how many of which sets are ordered, and what were the MOQ that you need to order from SP), pretty please?

there is no MOQ, everything will get made
Yes I know (as has been said so many times in this thread already ;) - you (and matt3o) offered to cover the rest if needed.
I just meant that when you order from SP, they have MOQ - I was curious about that.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:56:46
last 4 days of this guys

order now or forever hold your peace
Could you give us some stats (how many of which sets are ordered, and what were the MOQ that you need to order from SP), pretty please?

there is no MOQ, everything will get made
Yes I know (as has been said so many times in this thread already ;) - you (and matt3o) offered to cover the rest if needed.
I just meant that when you order from SP, they have MOQ - I was curious about that.

sp dont really have MOQ's

they have price tiers, which start at 25

however, they are more that willing to make smaller amounts assuming you are willing to pay a premium to do so
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 29 May 2015, 07:11:07
sp dont really have MOQ's

they have price tiers, which start at 25

however, they are more that willing to make smaller amounts assuming you are willing to pay a premium to do so
Didn't know that - thanks!
So I suppose your prices are based on 25 tier for the add-on things...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: braidn on Fri, 29 May 2015, 07:20:19
Not sure this has been discussed so thought I would ask

Is there any way is blank ergodoxers could buy a set of blanco homing keys? Presumably we would need 4 blank packs and 1 ergodox pack but, we will be sans homies. Is this a possibility?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 29 May 2015, 07:32:11
Not sure this has been discussed so thought I would ask

Is there any way is blank ergodoxers could buy a set of blanco homing keys? Presumably we would need 4 blank packs and 1 ergodox pack but, we will be sans homies. Is this a possibility?

its not something we are offering, but you could always contact sp
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 29 May 2015, 07:34:18
sp dont really have MOQ's

they have price tiers, which start at 25

however, they are more that willing to make smaller amounts assuming you are willing to pay a premium to do so
Didn't know that - thanks!
So I suppose your prices are based on 25 tier for the add-on things...

some we priced that way, some we didnt

right now, there are only 2 kits that sold more than the price point we set, and neither of those kits hit the pricepoint after that

that being said, everything is set to hit about where we wanted it to land by the end of the buy

with the exception of perhaps the numberpads and the true retro base kit, which look like they will fall 2 and 1 pricepoint away from what we thought respectively

this doesnt mean the buy is doing badly, we just had high expectations for this set
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 29 May 2015, 08:21:46
sp dont really have MOQ's

they have price tiers, which start at 25

however, they are more that willing to make smaller amounts assuming you are willing to pay a premium to do so
Didn't know that - thanks!
So I suppose your prices are based on 25 tier for the add-on things...

some we priced that way, some we didnt

right now, there are only 2 kits that sold more than the price point we set, and neither of those kits hit the pricepoint after that

that being said, everything is set to hit about where we wanted it to land by the end of the buy

with the exception of perhaps the numberpads and the true retro base kit, which look like they will fall 2 and 1 pricepoint away from what we thought respectively

this doesnt mean the buy is doing badly, we just had high expectations for this set
I hope the last day sales will boost most of them to the set pricepoint...

At least I'm glad I ordered the true retro base (although just 1) - I wasn't really decided until I read your "true retro needs more love" ;)
I was hoping that by now it would reach the expectations.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 29 May 2015, 13:59:53
How much more love does True Retro need? How about PETSCII? I think maybe I'll increase my order a bit (including some numpad kits, of course)...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Fri, 29 May 2015, 15:36:03
I can't believe true retro is behind burgundy. I'm normally all for differently colored modifiers, but the true retro is just so right for this set. Do people really like the burgundy modifiers better?

I'm going through some personal issues right now and I probably shouldn't be spending $200 on caps, but I know that petscii set will haunt my dreams if I skip it. I just need to sell some junk on ebay I suppose. :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 29 May 2015, 15:37:15
I can't believe true retro is behind burgundy. I'm normally all for differently colored modifiers, but the true retro is just so right for this set. Do people really like the burgundy modifiers better?

I'm going through some personal issues right now and I probably shouldn't be spending $200 on caps, but I know that petscii set will haunt my dreams if I skip it. I just need to sell some junk on ebay I suppose. :)

I'm getting ready to sell some stuff so I can grab true retro, petscii, lime, and the alt mods. :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: longcat on Fri, 29 May 2015, 16:01:57
I can't believe true retro is behind burgundy. I'm normally all for differently colored modifiers, but the true retro is just so right for this set. Do people really like the burgundy modifiers better?

I'm going through some personal issues right now and I probably shouldn't be spending $200 on caps, but I know that petscii set will haunt my dreams if I skip it. I just need to sell some junk on ebay I suppose. :)

I was torn between the two until I went over to keypuller and saw this:

http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/dsa-retro-BimboBB_.jpg (http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/07/dsa-retro-BimboBB_.jpg)

Now the only set that looks "right" to my eyes is the true retro.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 29 May 2015, 16:08:16
I can't believe true retro is behind burgundy. I'm normally all for differently colored modifiers, but the true retro is just so right for this set. Do people really like the burgundy modifiers better?

I'm going through some personal issues right now and I probably shouldn't be spending $200 on caps, but I know that petscii set will haunt my dreams if I skip it. I just need to sell some junk on ebay I suppose. :)

I'm getting ready to sell some stuff so I can grab true retro, petscii, lime, and the alt mods. :)

Good life choice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 29 May 2015, 17:03:32
burgundy is for boobies. true retro is the way to go. :P
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Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Fri, 29 May 2015, 17:11:40


I'm going through some personal issues right now and I probably shouldn't be spending $200 on caps, but I know that petscii set will haunt my dreams if I skip it.
No worries, SA Retro will solve all your problems!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 29 May 2015, 20:17:33
burgundy is for boobies. true retro is the way to go. :p

CORRECTAMOONDO  8) .

The absolute, no bvllsh1t representation of a Retro Keyset is the C64 edition in all of it's ORIGINAL colour scheme  :thumb: .

Anyone wanting any extra colours is a complete girlie-man pretending to be a real Geekhacker.  Time to drop your panties and start assuming the position because you shall be gaped viciously for your pretense and sad addiction to more than two colours, on any keyboard layout.

4 days left to MAN up and pick a REAL, TRUE RETRO, key-set colour-way before you're run out of town  >:( .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Fri, 29 May 2015, 21:55:59
This set is beautiful.. I'm in love with everything Commodore.

I'm new when it comes to mechanical keyboards for the most part, I just got a Quick Fire Rapid, and a Poker 3 and I just had one (newbish) question, the base set will fit both of those fine right? They look like they have 1.25's but its not a small amount of money so I just wanted to be absolutely sure before pulling the trigger.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:00:23
burgundy is for boobies. true retro is the way to go. :P
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just kidding
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no, I'm not!

Number one boobie right here...I like colors...besides...having true retro around would cause me to seek further purchase of said original Commodore 64...I really do miss mine, even though practically every game I had on 5.25 floppy disk took 30 minutes to load. Those were the days
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:09:14
burgundy is for boobies. true retro is the way to go. :P
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just kidding
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no, I'm not!

Number one boobie right here...I like colors...besides...having true retro around would cause me to seek further purchase of said original Commodore 64...I really do miss mine, even though practically every game I had on 5.25 floppy disk took 30 minutes to load. Those were the days

Haha loading from the disks was such a nightmare, even from the 1571. Now you can get a SDIEC II (https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SD2IEC) or a 1541 Ultimate (http://www.1541ultimate.net/content/index.php) along with a JiffyDos chip and games load almost instantly. Never been a better time to be a C64 owner :).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:19:06


Haha loading from the disks was such a nightmare, even from the 1571. Now you can get a SDIEC II (https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SD2IEC) or a 1541 Ultimate (http://www.1541ultimate.net/content/index.php) along with a JiffyDos chip and games load almost instantly. Never been a better time to be a C64 owner :).

I wonder how hard C64's are to find these days?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:19:52
I really wish there were more people using their 60%'s with 1.75 Up 1.25 Left Down Right's :)

Or I should probably need to join the initial brainstorming phases of the group buys :)

Is it possible to get 1.25/1.75 blanks in TBN? (I'm guessing not, but asking just in case - I'm not even sure yet whether I'm going to join, it will probably be a last minute call for me)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Fri, 29 May 2015, 22:26:32


Haha loading from the disks was such a nightmare, even from the 1571. Now you can get a SDIEC II (https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SD2IEC) or a 1541 Ultimate (http://www.1541ultimate.net/content/index.php) along with a JiffyDos chip and games load almost instantly. Never been a better time to be a C64 owner :).

I wonder how hard C64's are to find these days?

Not too hard actually, there are quite a few on Ebay at any point in time, they go anywhere from $50-$200 depending on condition/box, ect. so many were sold they aren't really a rare item fortunately.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 30 May 2015, 01:51:00
Number one boobie right here...I like colors...besides...having true retro around would cause me to seek further purchase of said original Commodore 64...I really do miss mine, even though practically every game I had on 5.25 floppy disk took 30 minutes to load. Those were the days

Just kidding, mate. burgundy is very elegant, true retro is for the dinosaurs like me :)

I wonder how hard C64's are to find these days?

Actually they are very easy to find (and cheap)

I'm new when it comes to mechanical keyboards for the most part, I just got a Quick Fire Rapid, and a Poker 3 and I just had one (newbish) question, the base set will fit both of those fine right? They look like they have 1.25's but its not a small amount of money so I just wanted to be absolutely sure before pulling the trigger.

Yes, the base kit is all you need. But I'd take some extras if I were you to increase the resell value and to be on a safe spot in case you buy a new keyboard :)

Is it possible to get 1.25/1.75 blanks in TBN? (I'm guessing not, but asking just in case - I'm not even sure yet whether I'm going to join, it will probably be a last minute call for me)

You could use 1.75 "shift" for up. Unfortunately we don't have 1.25u blanks but there should be enough 1.25 around to make it work. You may try to ask Massdrop if they have some TBN around for sale, you never know...

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GUYS! Last 3 days!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sat, 30 May 2015, 02:53:26
Two questions:
1: How does one go about increasing one's order?
2: Is it correct, that the ISO set only contains one enter key, which is Lime?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 30 May 2015, 03:06:11
Two questions:
1: How does one go about increasing one's order?
2: Is it correct, that the ISO set only contains one enter key, which is Lime?

1. make a new order and do not pay. contact ctralt store giving both order numbers and your paypal account.
2. yes, only 1 ISO enter sorry.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sat, 30 May 2015, 06:32:20
Thanks. As I'm not certain what my desires will require, I had better secure myself for all possible lay-outs  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 May 2015, 06:56:10
Thanks. As I'm not certain what my desires will require, I had better secure myself for all possible lay-outs  ;)

A very astute individual here, making sure he gets all the necessary sets for now and future keyboard acquisitions, good show what  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 30 May 2015, 13:42:40
I second Elrick on this one.  Its simple, this set is a MUST HAVE guys.  Quit staring at this page and make this happen for the community and the entire design team.  This is the first True Retro SA keycap set.  For goodness sakes, THE MAN is giving you a VIM key, PETSCII keys, and keys for every board you could need.  I mean the only bonus this set is missing is a BroCap to crown the finish. 
This thread is nearing 12,000 views.  Guys the IC is OVER, we got LESS than 72 hours to show this truly spectacular set as much love as it deserves.  There ain't gonna be an extension and we're all gonna be kicking ourselves for not giving CTL.ALT the love they deserve.  Support this project so we can get more SA keycaps of our beloved faves. 

Matt3o, Bunny, CTL.ALT.IO thank you.  GH is gonna support you on this one and for the rest of us not already confirming our orders, you're gonna be kicking yourself for not supporting the creator.   ;D :D :thumb:

And don't forget all your boards that you need this for, JD's, Ergo's, Infin's, y'all know what to do.
:micdrop
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Sat, 30 May 2015, 14:09:46
Added the numpad set to my order!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ImDaBaron on Sat, 30 May 2015, 14:22:54
I'm trying to decide if I need this or not
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Sat, 30 May 2015, 14:49:20
OK, you guys convinced me :) I finally jumped off the fence. In for a True Retro, Lime, and Dvorak set. First GB! Can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 30 May 2015, 15:08:46
After seeing TBN here: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absblackbrown.jpg I'm also having a hard time resisting the True Retro

Is there any guarantee the molding is going to be better with this GB compared to the Hack'd by Geeks one? (The row1's are beasts, tilted row1's draw too much attention, tickles my OCD)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Sat, 30 May 2015, 17:28:43
I'm trying to decide if I need this or not

If you're asking that question you probably do.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:13:37
After seeing TBN here: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absblackbrown.jpg (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absblackbrown.jpg) I'm also having a hard time resisting the True Retro

Is there any guarantee the molding is going to be better with this GB compared to the Hack'd by Geeks one? (The row1's are beasts, tilted row1's draw too much attention, tickles my OCD)

This is ONLY my feeble opinion here BUT Hack'd by Geeks was made when Melissa was off having her baby hence the trouble had set it's course.  No one at the factory bothered to do any Q&A so we got the delivery of some deformed keys.

Now the illustrious woman is back in charge so hopefully no more badly formed keys makes their way into anyone's mailbox or keyboard.

The good thing here is that SP will re-make any keys if you receive any that are deformed, hence always good having that as a firm back-up.  So when anyone gets their keys delivered ALWAYS break them out and start attaching them to some keyboards to see for yourself.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:25:12
Just paid for the True Retro and the Green Modifiers, can't WAIT!

Its probably been asked, but this is my first time doing a group buy like this, whats the average turn around time after it ends? I assume at least a month or two but just curious.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:26:43
OK, you guys convinced me :) I finally jumped off the fence. In for a True Retro, Lime, and Dvorak set. First GB! Can't wait.

YES, True Retro and Lime is what I also selected in my package as well, great minds think alike  8) .

To all the fence sitters out there, once this passes into history and you missed out on getting some thoroughly decent Retro Key-sets into your humble keyboards, spare a thought for the poor losers sitting on the sidelines lamenting their existence and hating themselves for an eternity, in missing out on owning this unique Matt3o inspired C64 key-set.

The chance of owning rare Art is extremely rare these days so be one of the special key-cap connoisseur's that has this wondrous set, that shall tickle their fingers whilst they work and play with any keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:30:20
Just paid for the True Retro and the Green Modifiers, can't WAIT!

Its probably been asked, but this is my first time doing a group buy like this, whats the average turn around time after it ends? I assume at least a month or two but just curious.

Brilliant choice on your key-sets buddy  :thumb: .

Turnaround on these to have them made and shipped would probably be more like 3 months, but BunnyLake may provide a more precise timeline.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ImDaBaron on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:58:19
Alright you guys convinced me. I'm just trying to figure out which ones to get. I think I'll go with true Retro the keypad and Lime.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zeromachina on Sun, 31 May 2015, 07:14:17
finally grabbed a true retro set.
 i had drooled over the first run of these keys and had looked through the classifieds for a set, it still took me till the end to grab these. sigh
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sun, 31 May 2015, 12:42:57
Picked up more stuff for SA retro:

Big Spacebars
Blanks x4
Burgundy Numberpad
Alternate Functions
Pro Burgundy Mods(for some reason I don't think I'll need this though)
Retro Burgundy

I contacted the store to combine orders but now I'm wondering if I'm missing something vital in my order list. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 31 May 2015, 12:59:59
Picked up more stuff for SA retro:

Big Spacebars
Blanks x4
Burgundy Numberpad
Alternate Functions
Pro Burgundy Mods(for some reason I don't think I'll need this though)
Retro Burgundy

I contacted the store to combine orders but now I'm wondering if I'm missing something vital in my order list.

you do miss PETSCII!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: teuf on Sun, 31 May 2015, 13:49:24
Ordered PETSCII, Retro Burgundy, Pro Burgundy, Lime, blanks, small spacebars and Ergodox! I could not convince myself to pick Dvorak or Intl-FR even though I use these 2 layouts :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sun, 31 May 2015, 14:20:55
Picked up more stuff for SA retro:

Big Spacebars
Blanks x4
Burgundy Numberpad
Alternate Functions
Pro Burgundy Mods(for some reason I don't think I'll need this though)
Retro Burgundy

I contacted the store to combine orders but now I'm wondering if I'm missing something vital in my order list.

you do miss PETSCII!

BUT!  I'm trying to have matching keysets with my DSA retro!  I thought it would look funny if one had petscii and the other didn't
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Sun, 31 May 2015, 14:46:04
Have enough for everything I want (True Retro, Alt. Functions, Lime) other than PETSCII. I might have to sell another set of caps I have been hoarding in my closet.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: HungryPillow on Sun, 31 May 2015, 16:46:57
I just tried to place my order and it said something about not being able to charge an account without an active card. I went to look at my account profile and I see my order # with an animated blue processing icon next to it. Does this mean my order actually went through? Could someone help double check to confirm? I don't want to miss out on these keys lol... I used the same username as my GeekHack name. Thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:14:17
I just tried to place my order and it said something about not being able to charge an account without an active card. I went to look at my account profile and I see my order # with an animated blue processing icon next to it. Does this mean my order actually went through? Could someone help double check to confirm? I don't want to miss out on these keys lol... I used the same username as my GeekHack name. Thanks :)

I had a similar issue, I contacted them through support and just did it via paypal, haha my only worry is one says unpaid and the other says processing, I'm hoping its because when you pay with paypal they have to manually mark it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:23:23
I just tried to place my order and it said something about not being able to charge an account without an active card. I went to look at my account profile and I see my order # with an animated blue processing icon next to it. Does this mean my order actually went through? Could someone help double check to confirm? I don't want to miss out on these keys lol... I used the same username as my GeekHack name. Thanks :)

I had a similar issue, I contacted them through support and just did it via paypal, haha my only worry is one says unpaid and the other says processing, I'm hoping its because when you pay with paypal they have to manually mark it.

yeah we manually mark all paypal payments as paid in one go when the buy ends
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: HungryPillow on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:28:06
Thanks, I will try to contact them through support.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:31:28
Thanks, I will try to contact them through support.

just use the form and hit me with an order number and pp email and i can invoice you tomorrow
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: HungryPillow on Sun, 31 May 2015, 17:38:44
Thanks, I will try to contact them through support.

just use the form and hit me with an order number and pp email and i can invoice you tomorrow

Done, thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 31 May 2015, 18:11:51
order is in and payed thanks samuel :)

lime / true retro / ergo / colemak and 10 blanks should be good enough for the kinesis .. and if it does not fit i put it on the ergodox

ive been drooling for the dsa set .. but did not make the move ..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Sun, 31 May 2015, 18:23:03
ive been drooling for the dsa set .. but did not make the move ..
hm.... SA?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 31 May 2015, 18:28:10
well as i sayed ive seen SA on the kinesis already .. need to test it for my self .. ive been drooling over the DSA retro but by the time i did not think that i wanted it that badly .. now .. i gona test the sa .. >

ill see how it fits on the kinesis and if it doesnt .. no harm done ..
it doesnt look to bad right now
(http://puu.sh/hXFFm/f35f95a327.png)

got an ergodox as well which could use new caps so etherway one of them will get a fresh look

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rickyhobby on Sun, 31 May 2015, 21:37:39
I just (finally) added the PETSCII to my buy.  So I'm looking at:

2 - base True retro
2 - PETSCII
2 - big spacebars
1 - alt functions
1 - numberpad
1 - lime
1 - colemak and dovark

for a total of $394 - yikes!

Good times, good times...

Rick
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Sun, 31 May 2015, 23:15:33
Just barely came up with enough for my order of True Retro, PETSCII, Alt Functions, and Lime!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 31 May 2015, 23:55:43
Matteo, you're really killin me here. Just bought in for true retro, numpad and extra mods... Everything you design is so irresistible.

On another note, my first SA buy! I've got high hopes for da feels
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:17:34
I decided to skip this GB as I can't get 1.25/1.75 R4 blanks in TBN - even R3 ones would do

I've been using placeholder keys for my 1.75/1.25/1.25/1.25 arrow cluster, however it's unoptimal, I don't want to continue going on like this, SP also lacks in the SA blanks department and will probably keep on lacking SA blanks in the near future

I might regret it later on, but let it be :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:23:41
Matteo, you're really killin me here. Just bought in for true retro, numpad and extra mods... Everything you design is so irresistible.

On another note, my first SA buy! I've got high hopes for da feels

Anything touched by Matt3o goes GOLD  :thumb: .

He's a gifted individual and knows how to apply it easily hence his key-sets are always to die for.  Retro has severely gaped my wallet and it's now permanently bow-legged as it resides in my pocket.

Not easy to be a Geekhacker now because there is so much on offer it's like some huge harem of delectable choices, you have time to only go for one or two at any given time frame  ::) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KatzenKinder on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:25:54

Matteo, you're really killin me here. Just bought in for true retro, numpad and extra mods... Everything you design is so irresistible.

On another note, my first SA buy! I've got high hopes for da feels

Anything touched by Matt3o goes GOLD  :thumb: .

He's a gifted individual and knows how to apply it easily hence his key-sets are always to die for.  Retro has severely gaped my wallet and it's now permanently bow-legged as it resides in my pocket.

Not easy to be a Geekhacker now because there is so much on offer it's like some huge harem of delectable choices, you have time to only go for one or two at any given time frame  ::) .

I've always got future proof fear too, so I can never pass up the additional mod packs. I've taken on jobs I wouldn't have otherwise just to finance keycap stuff, I feel like a changed man. No longer lazy :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:56:06
Less than 24 hours left!

https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro

go ahead, regret forever, do not buy now.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 01:44:16
I can't seem to let this one go, considering getting a GON 75% to go with this #FOMO #YOLO
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:05:19
I can't seem to let this one go, considering getting a GON 75% to go with this #FOMO #YOLO

A brand NEW GON TKL with a fresh set of Retro's attached, shall have everyone here on Geekhack GREEN with envy  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:09:18
Hi all!

When the IC for this keycap set got posted I was dead set to go all in if an ISO Nordic kit would be available, which I requested in the IC thread. Then the Orion V2 GB happened and I had already committed to the Granite set on Massdrop. The dark reality slowly started to set in that I would not afford the SA Retro set with the ISO Nordic kit :(

Last night i re-visited ctrlalt.io to give it yet another thought. Slowly I started to realize that it would probably be a loooong wait before a great set like the Retro with ISO Nordic kit would be available again. So I decided to pull some money out of my savings account (which is only intended for emergencies and vacations) and placed my order.

Reason for writing this reply is to encourage others to do the same and pull the trigger on ISO language kits in this GB. If only a few orders on ISO language kits get placed we might not see any more kits at all in the future!  :eek:

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:13:04
I've taken on jobs I wouldn't have otherwise just to finance keycap stuff, I feel like a changed man. No longer lazy :D

Geekhack will change a lot of people here, you either become so frustrated and confused or you become flexible and persistent in your quest to acquire these awesome rarities.

For myself, had to become a bum-boy to someone I truly despise simply because they pay quite well but the object here is to sacrifice a little to get a lot back in time  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:29:29
Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

thank for your post. unfortunately it is very unlikely that I will release more FR-IT kits in the future. DE/Nordic might still work, but there simply not enough interest for other languages.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:31:06
Hi all!

When the IC for this keycap set got posted I was dead set to go all in if an ISO Nordic kit would be available, which I requested in the IC thread. Then the Orion V2 GB happened and I had already committed to the Granite set on Massdrop. The dark reality slowly started to set in that I would not afford the SA Retro set with the ISO Nordic kit :(

Last night i re-visited ctrlalt.io to give it yet another thought. Slowly I started to realize that it would probably be a loooong wait before a great set like the Retro with ISO Nordic kit would be available again. So I decided to pull some money out of my savings account (which is only intended for emergencies and vacations) and placed my order.

Reason for writing this reply is to encourage others to do the same and pull the trigger on ISO language kits in this GB. If only a few orders on ISO language kits get placed we might not see any more kits at all in the future!  :eek:

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

I also similarly ordered Granite's that I probably won't use

The main reason is SP's ****ty molding, with dark keys you don't notice issues much, yet with white keys like Granite, they are amplified significantly, I noticed this when I was using one of my Eve sets, they all had different footprints and W key was side molded for some reason which messed things further
It's really hard to pull off white keys

It's going to cost 278$'s - but I will probably join this GB too

I also intend to start selling some of my keycap sets, otherwise I can't justify the costs

I really really really hope you push SP on this drop to let the keycaps cool off properly after molding, on the Hack'd by Geeks set some R1's are slightly tilted, it becomes an issue if the plate is stainless steel or white, the imperfections/tilts are easily noticable from the shadow lines - if the plate is black, the shadow blends in with the plate and the imperfections are suppressed
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 01 June 2015, 08:36:58
Psst...I just increased my SA Retro order...Don't you want *more* Retro goodness in your life too?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 01 June 2015, 09:06:44
we saw a speed bump in the last 24 hours and finally SA Retro is looking the way we wanted it. True retro and numpads are still a little below the expectations but all in all the GB came together pretty well :)

Last few hours! Keep ordering I will not run round 2! :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 01 June 2015, 09:07:46
Hi all!

When the IC for this keycap set got posted I was dead set to go all in if an ISO Nordic kit would be available, which I requested in the IC thread. Then the Orion V2 GB happened and I had already committed to the Granite set on Massdrop. The dark reality slowly started to set in that I would not afford the SA Retro set with the ISO Nordic kit :(

Last night i re-visited ctrlalt.io to give it yet another thought. Slowly I started to realize that it would probably be a loooong wait before a great set like the Retro with ISO Nordic kit would be available again. So I decided to pull some money out of my savings account (which is only intended for emergencies and vacations) and placed my order.

Reason for writing this reply is to encourage others to do the same and pull the trigger on ISO language kits in this GB. If only a few orders on ISO language kits get placed we might not see any more kits at all in the future!  :eek:

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

I also similarly ordered Granite's that I probably won't use

The main reason is SP's ****ty molding, with dark keys you don't notice issues much, yet with white keys like Granite, they are amplified significantly, I noticed this when I was using one of my Eve sets, they all had different footprints and W key was side molded for some reason which messed things further
It's really hard to pull off white keys

It's going to cost 278$'s - but I will probably join this GB too

I also intend to start selling some of my keycap sets, otherwise I can't justify the costs

I really really really hope you push SP on this drop to let the keycaps cool off properly after molding, on the Hack'd by Geeks set some R1's are slightly tilted, it becomes an issue if the plate is stainless steel or white, the imperfections/tilts are easily noticable from the shadow lines - if the plate is black, the shadow blends in with the plate and the imperfections are suppressed

i went through tons of sets looking for your issue sir, what i think is this, there are tiny imperfections on your keyboard, very small marginal differences in the mounting of the switches, which im sure would be within manufacturing margin of error, however with taller keys, like the sa row one, that nominal difference is magnified to the point that its noticeable

ive seen the issue in your pics, and having now gone through about 10 sets, and having nothing similar, it seems strange that you would have so many incorrect keys
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:27:00
Submitted my order, set is sweet, definitely not missing out on this.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Mon, 01 June 2015, 10:31:39
Finally placed an order yesterday. It feels wrong to spend the same amount on a single set of keys as I paid for my last three keyboards combined, but I know I'll be kicking myself every time someone posts a picture. :)  Went with true retro, pro mods, petscii, colemak/dvorak, lime, small spacebars, and 2x blanks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:10:54
Just paid my PayPal invoice for True Retro, Lime, Alt. Functions, and PETSCII. Can not wait to try out the SA profile! I was going to get a number pad set too but none of my keyboards have a number pad, and I do not have a standalone number pad either, so they would go to waste with me. I will probably regret it later when I buy a separate number pad though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: micr0n on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:23:26
Just paid my PayPal invoice for True Retro, Lime, Alt. Functions, and PETSCII. Can not wait to try out the SA profile! I was going to get a number pad set too but none of my keyboards have a number pad, and I do not have a standalone number pad either, so they would go to waste with me. I will probably regret it later when I buy a separate number pad though.

I was in the same predicament as well, but I actually have a number pad.  I choose not to get it cause I rarely use the number pad and it seem more of a waste to get it.  Plus, the original Commodore never had a number pad, so it seems fitting to just leave it out.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:27:01
Just paid my PayPal invoice for True Retro, Lime, Alt. Functions, and PETSCII. Can not wait to try out the SA profile! I was going to get a number pad set too but none of my keyboards have a number pad, and I do not have a standalone number pad either, so they would go to waste with me. I will probably regret it later when I buy a separate number pad though.

I was in the same predicament as well, but I actually have a number pad.  I choose not to get it cause I rarely use the number pad and it seem more of a waste to get it.  Plus, the original Commodore never had a number pad, so it seems fitting to just leave it out.

My decision is aided by me being broke lol. I sold a few sets I had laying in my closet to finance my order.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:23:01
Hi all!

When the IC for this keycap set got posted I was dead set to go all in if an ISO Nordic kit would be available, which I requested in the IC thread. Then the Orion V2 GB happened and I had already committed to the Granite set on Massdrop. The dark reality slowly started to set in that I would not afford the SA Retro set with the ISO Nordic kit :(

Last night i re-visited ctrlalt.io to give it yet another thought. Slowly I started to realize that it would probably be a loooong wait before a great set like the Retro with ISO Nordic kit would be available again. So I decided to pull some money out of my savings account (which is only intended for emergencies and vacations) and placed my order.

Reason for writing this reply is to encourage others to do the same and pull the trigger on ISO language kits in this GB. If only a few orders on ISO language kits get placed we might not see any more kits at all in the future!  :eek:

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

I also similarly ordered Granite's that I probably won't use

The main reason is SP's ****ty molding, with dark keys you don't notice issues much, yet with white keys like Granite, they are amplified significantly, I noticed this when I was using one of my Eve sets, they all had different footprints and W key was side molded for some reason which messed things further
It's really hard to pull off white keys

It's going to cost 278$'s - but I will probably join this GB too

I also intend to start selling some of my keycap sets, otherwise I can't justify the costs

I really really really hope you push SP on this drop to let the keycaps cool off properly after molding, on the Hack'd by Geeks set some R1's are slightly tilted, it becomes an issue if the plate is stainless steel or white, the imperfections/tilts are easily noticable from the shadow lines - if the plate is black, the shadow blends in with the plate and the imperfections are suppressed

i went through tons of sets looking for your issue sir, what i think is this, there are tiny imperfections on your keyboard, very small marginal differences in the mounting of the switches, which im sure would be within manufacturing margin of error, however with taller keys, like the sa row one, that nominal difference is magnified to the point that its noticeable

ive seen the issue in your pics, and having now gone through about 10 sets, and having nothing similar, it seems strange that you would have so many incorrect keys

Yes I agree with your analysis, but I've tested them on two different keyboards, which convinced me that the issue is with the keys instead - It might as well not be

Now I tried swapping the problematic keys with some of the unused row1's, the improvement is mostly minimal, only some keys seem to be very slightly crooked, definitely not all of them, with a black background/plate, the issue will be unnoticeable

Thanks a lot for checking your keysets for the issue

At this point I'm 95% joining for an almost complete True Retro collection, I'm just not sure about the PETSCII yet :)

Does anyone have a Row1 SA'd 75% photo for inspiration? I'm unsure how two consecutive Row1's are going to look
I'm also wondering how the side prints look, might as well join for a PETSCII too
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:30:23
I could not resist PETSCII, I tried, and failed :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:33:23
I could not resist PETSCII, I tried, and failed :(

I'm wondering whether I can resist a secondary True Retro set :)

By the way I tested Row1+Row1 - the first Row1 looks as if it's caller than the second one, on the bright side, on an 75% with an F-row, it would be almost impossible to mis click the F-row while typing :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:34:52
I could not resist PETSCII, I tried, and failed :(

I'm wondering whether I can resist a secondary True Retro set :)

Same! Fortunately, fundage dictates otherwise.

But if I could swing another True Retro, I'd have enough to cover a fullsize, and my Pok3r with True + PETSCII. Ooh, sounds so nice.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:35:10
I could not resist PETSCII, I tried, and failed :(

I'm wondering whether I can resist a secondary True Retro set :)

I could only afford one, but the good news is if the alphas start to shine up, I'll have the set that came with true retro and the PETSCII ones so I can switch.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:46:15
I'd love to grab the PETSCII set, but it's just too expensive. I understand that the side-printing probably adds significantly to the cost, but I just couldn't justify it, as much as it deserves to be part of this set. I'll just have to watch from the sidelines as the rest of you guys enjoy your authentic keys :) I'll enjoy my plain True Retro, though. I think I'll be picking up a Pok3r in the next few months, to house these keys when they arrive.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:07:05
I'd love to grab the PETSCII set, but it's just too expensive. I understand that the side-printing probably adds significantly to the cost, but I just couldn't justify it, as much as it deserves to be part of this set. I'll just have to watch from the sidelines as the rest of you guys enjoy your authentic keys :) I'll enjoy my plain True Retro, though. I think I'll be picking up a Pok3r in the next few months, to house these keys when they arrive.

This is still a great set without the PETSCII!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:19:06
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. At another time, I might have picked up PETSCII too, but I finally managed to snag a set of EVE (my first love) over in the Deskthority classifieds just a few days ago, and it's hard to shell out for two keysets in the same week :)

I think EVE will be my primary set, on the KUL at my home office, once it arrives. But like I mentioned, I plan to pick up a Pok3r for more portable use -- working on the couch, or at a coffee shop -- and I think SA Retro is going to be amazing for that use. And if it turns out I don't like EVE's DSA profile, they can always swap places.

So yeah, I think SA Retro will be great even without PETSCII. I'm not a very patient person though -- this whole "wait a few months to get your new toy" thing is going to be rough :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 01 June 2015, 15:32:14
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. At another time, I might have picked up PETSCII too, but I finally managed to snag a set of EVE (my first love) over in the Deskthority classifieds just a few days ago, and it's hard to shell out for two keysets in the same week :)

I think EVE will be my primary set, on the KUL at my home office, once it arrives. But like I mentioned, I plan to pick up a Pok3r for more portable use -- working on the couch, or at a coffee shop -- and I think SA Retro is going to be amazing for that use. And if it turns out I don't like EVE's DSA profile, they can always swap places.

So yeah, I think SA Retro will be great even without PETSCII. I'm not a very patient person though -- this whole "wait a few months to get your new toy" thing is going to be rough :)
Once you stop thinking about it everyday it goes by pretty fast.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:18:46
I couldn't resist
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mashby on Mon, 01 June 2015, 16:46:08
Neither could I. Order placed. Wallet emptied.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:07:06
ok guys, i believe im finally caught up with all invoicing, if you are expecting one and dont have one, please contact me
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:15:50
Finally placed an order yesterday. It feels wrong to spend the same amount on a single set of keys as I paid for my last three keyboards combined, but I know I'll be kicking myself every time someone posts a picture. :)  Went with true retro, pro mods, petscii, colemak/dvorak, lime, small spacebars, and 2x blanks.

What will you be using the pro mods for, i.e. what keyboards demand that kit?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:16:33
ok guys, i believe im finally caught up with all invoicing, if you are expecting one and dont have one, please contact me

Contacting intensifies
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:18:50
I know that when Penumbra re-launches, I'm going to jump on it too, If I can't holster myself in 14 hours

So I might just go for a humble(?) 1x True Retro, all extras and no PETSCII

However, an instinct urges me to have backups, so I'm seeking that secondary True Retro, in case there are minor imperfections with the first set that bothers me, so I will be able to switch them etc.

Such first world / superficial dilemmas :)

ctrlX - the pro mods, at 35$, should be a must buy, it extends the usability significantly, there are Del's for almost every row, Shift for short shifts, R3 Fn for those who hate caps lock like me and many more
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 17:46:42
By the way the lime 1.25 C64 logo's are beautiful, however Ducky ruined the C64 logo for me :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 01 June 2015, 18:00:22
So I might just go for a humble(?) 1x True Retro, all extras and no PETSCII

However, an instinct urges me to have backups, so I'm seeking that secondary True Retro, in case there are minor imperfections with the first set that bothers me, so I will be able to switch them etc.

Such first world / superficial dilemmas :)

In my rarely-humble opinion, you should get PETSCII. If you are worried about manufacturing errors bothering you long-term, just think how you'll feel when the first pictures of retro side-printed goodness are posted.

Plenty of folks are immune to such things, but I think a lot of people are going to be pissed at their past selves (http://33.media.tumblr.com/cb0a76f72a2ac465d061c2c2f31ac82d/tumblr_inline_njis0bqJ9t1t3ksul.jpg).

-potatowire
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Mon, 01 June 2015, 18:17:50
Finally placed an order yesterday. It feels wrong to spend the same amount on a single set of keys as I paid for my last three keyboards combined, but I know I'll be kicking myself every time someone posts a picture. :)  Went with true retro, pro mods, petscii, colemak/dvorak, lime, small spacebars, and 2x blanks.

What will you be using the pro mods for, i.e. what keyboards demand that kit?

I have a tex beetle and a filco minila and an infinity on the way. The only standard layout I have is a cm qfr. If I'm able to get a 4.5 unit space from sp I think the retro set will go on the beetle which is my work board. If not it can fit any of the other three.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 18:21:45
Finally placed an order yesterday. It feels wrong to spend the same amount on a single set of keys as I paid for my last three keyboards combined, but I know I'll be kicking myself every time someone posts a picture. :)  Went with true retro, pro mods, petscii, colemak/dvorak, lime, small spacebars, and 2x blanks.

What will you be using the pro mods for, i.e. what keyboards demand that kit?

I have a tex beetle and a filco minila and an infinity on the way. The only standard layout I have is a cm qfr. If I'm able to get a 4.5 unit space from sp I think the retro set will go on the beetle which is my work board. If not it can fit any of the other three.

Don't hold your breath for a 4.5 spacebar, it would be a small miracle, I'm not even sure whether I will be able to get R4 1.25/1.75 TBN blanks
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Mon, 01 June 2015, 18:28:50
Finally placed an order yesterday. It feels wrong to spend the same amount on a single set of keys as I paid for my last three keyboards combined, but I know I'll be kicking myself every time someone posts a picture. :)  Went with true retro, pro mods, petscii, colemak/dvorak, lime, small spacebars, and 2x blanks.

What will you be using the pro mods for, i.e. what keyboards demand that kit?

I have a tex beetle and a filco minila and an infinity on the way. The only standard layout I have is a cm qfr. If I'm able to get a 4.5 unit space from sp I think the retro set will go on the beetle which is my work board. If not it can fit any of the other three.

Don't hold your breath for a 4.5 spacebar, it would be a small miracle, I'm not even sure whether I will be able to get R4 1.25/1.75 TBN blanks

Ouch. It seems like at least R4 1.25 and 1.5 blanks should be a shoo-in. Is the 1.75 for the Infinity shift?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 18:35:07
Yes I use the shift as arrow up, really hate using printed keycaps as arrow keys, I decided not to do that anymore, after paying extreme amounts for keycaps, at least I should be able to find some blanks for spots that doesn't match with the keycap prints

Just tested the typing experience of my hack'd by geeks keyset, it was incredible, extremely smooth with red switches, it seems I won't be able to bail after all

My order locked tho, it's in an unpaid state and I can't seem to be able to pay it anymore, re-ordering seems like one option

-----

Thinking of getting one Burgundy set and one True Retro set, using TBN blank 1.25/1.75's for the True Retro and 1.25/1.75 grey blank GTM's for the Burgundy one

I should make up my mind soon, at this point I'm hoping SP will agree to mold blanks for an affordable cost
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:04:57
Ugh. So bummed I may not be getting this. The disposable income I had been hoping to use for this won't come in time.

This would've been my first group buy; what is the likelihood of me obtaining a set after today? Would there be another round?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:18:25
Ugh. So bummed I may not be getting this. The disposable income I had been hoping to use for this won't come in time.

This would've been my first group buy; what is the likelihood of me obtaining a set after today? Would there be another round?

The most likely scenario is someone selling their order once they get it. You'll just have to be quick enough.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:30:34
i dont think there will be a other round ... look at the dsa retro .. a rerun has been requested often ...

i just extendet my order ... darn it that set does hack my wallet .. but must have it..

now at

1 x PETSCII
1 x Lime
15 x Blanks 
1 x Ergodox 
1 x Colemak and Dvorak
1 x True Retro
1 x Big Spacebars
1 x Small Spacebars
1 x Alternate Functions

@romevi thats my first gb as well

if you are lucky enough to get your hands on 1 set after it .. well they are rare and after the gb the price is very likley to go up quite a bit
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:40:30
In my rarely-humble opinion, you should get PETSCII. If you are worried about manufacturing errors bothering you long-term, just think how you'll feel when the first pictures of retro side-printed goodness are posted.

-potatowire

Speaks the utter TRUTH here.

When PETSCII rolls out and they're shown to the world, those that hesitated shall be reaching for their razor's to start inflicting damage upon themselves.

This Retro Key-set offers so much, foreign languages which everyone was complaining to Matt to have available which he has done, huge amount of extra mods also available for anybody wanting extra special customizations on what ever keyboard they have in their possession PLUS the huge availability of extra space-bar keys in all their sizings.

This is why Retro has been offered here for those that requested, all these extras and whatnot.  You shall not see another Group Buy such as this with all these offerings in keys, for nearly every sort of key-cap addict out there.

I know a few are thinking they will be hanging around the classifieds section hoping someone is deluded enough to sell theirs off, but be aware you shall be entering a shark's cage only this time you'll be swimming with them in that cage with no protection whatsoever.  No mercy for the slow and cheap because the owners have every right to bleed you severely here as a major lesson in life, don't avoid Matt3o's Group Buys otherwise face the vicious consequences of that ill fated decision.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:44:51
In my rarely-humble opinion, you should get PETSCII. If you are worried about manufacturing errors bothering you long-term, just think how you'll feel when the first pictures of retro side-printed goodness are posted.

-potatowire

Speaks the utter TRUTH here.

When PETSCII rolls out and they're shown to the world, those that hesitated shall be reaching for their razor's to start inflicting damage upon themselves.

This Retro Key-set offers so much, foreign languages which everyone was complaining to Matt to have available which he has done, huge amount of extra mods also available for anybody wanting extra special customizations on what ever keyboard they have in their possession PLUS the huge availability of extra space-bar keys in all their sizings.

This is why Retro has been offered here for those that requested, all these extras and whatnot.  You shall not see another Group Buy such as this with all these offerings in keys, for nearly every sort of key-cap addict out there.

I know a few are thinking they will be hanging around the classifieds section hoping someone is deluded enough to sell theirs off, but be aware you shall be entering a shark's cage only this time you'll be swimming with them in that cage with no protection whatsoever.  No mercy for the slow and cheap because the owners have every right to bleed you severely here as a major lesson in life, don't avoid Matt3o's Group Buys otherwise face the vicious consequences of that ill fated decision.

:)

How many did you buy by the way?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:50:43
This would've been my first group buy; what is the likelihood of me obtaining a set after today? Would there be another round?

You miss this set then that's it for you.  There won't be another Group Buy of Retro in DSA or SA held ever again.

Matt doesn't believe in re-do's on any of his designs, it's only done once and that's it for him because in his short lifetime no one wants to keep doing the same key-set, he wants to explore other avenues of creative expression here.

If you love this guys work then NOW is the time to acquire it, rather than waiting for later because he might not be here again.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:53:19
How many did you buy by the way?


Item (details)                 Quantity           Price

True Retro                       2                     $160
SA Retro

PETSCII                           2                     $110
SA Retro

Numberpad                     2                      $46
SA Retro

Burgundy Numberpad     1                      $23
SA Retro

Pro Burgundy Mods        2                       $70
SA Retro

Lime                                2                       $40
SA Retro         

Alternate Functions        2                       $70
SA Retro

BIG Spacebars               4                        $24
SA Retro

SUB TOTAL                                               $543.00

Shipping  -  Tracked                                 $18.00

Donation                                                  $100.00

COMPLETE TOTAL                                    $661.00 USD
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:56:44
Well you put your money where your mouth is :)
Inspiring

Why the burgundy pro mods tho?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 01 June 2015, 19:58:08
I was trying to slow down the amount of group buys I participate in but after getting my set of Hack'd by Geeks last week I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this.

I'm thinking Burgundy, PETSCII, Lime, and a couple sets of blanks.

Any thoughts on what the must haves are?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:00:50
Why the burgundy pro mods tho?

They're for adding an extra spice to a keyboard, like a different coloured Enter or Shift or Alt keys, just in case.

Always liked buying extra mods to apply upon any type of keyboard(s) that deserves that extra special attention  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:21:09
I was trying to slow down the amount of group buys I participate in but after getting my set of Hack'd by Geeks last week I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this.

I'm thinking Burgundy, PETSCII, Lime, and a couple sets of blanks.

Any thoughts on what the must haves are?

I've decided to get True Retro, Retro Burgundy and almost all extras, decided True Retro+Burgundy is better than 2x True Retro's - it costs ~400$'s and covers 2x keyboards with extreme diversity

However, I still couldn't pull the trigger, tho one thing is for sure, If I don't pull the trigger on this set, it would mean that I settled with what I have for the near future :)

I would suggest getting the pro mods etc. too, I know I would regret later on not getting them, even with the Granite set for example, I don't intent to use it, but I kind of regret not adding the "Speciality Keyboards Kit" - which seemed excessive as I already got all the other extras, now I feel like I need that 1u Shift too :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:29:49
I was trying to slow down the amount of group buys I participate in but after getting my set of Hack'd by Geeks last week I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this.

I'm thinking Burgundy, PETSCII, Lime, and a couple sets of blanks.

Any thoughts on what the must haves are?

I've decided to get True Retro, Retro Burgundy and almost all extras, decided True Retro+Burgundy is better than 2x True Retro's - it costs ~400$'s and covers 2x keyboards with extreme diversity

However, I still couldn't pull the trigger, tho one thing is for sure, If I don't pull the trigger on this set, it would mean that I settled with what I have for the near future :)

I would suggest getting the pro mods etc. too, I know I would regret later on not getting them, even with the Granite set for example, I don't intent to use it, but I kind of regret not adding the "Speciality Keyboards Kit" - which seemed excessive as I already got all the other extras, now I feel like I need that 1u Shift too :)

Hmm was thinking about the Pro Mods but my cart is already $167 without them.. Not sure whether to get rid of the lime or not considering I'm probably going to be limiting myself to 60% boards in the future
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:39:38
I was trying to slow down the amount of group buys I participate in but after getting my set of Hack'd by Geeks last week I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this.

I'm thinking Burgundy, PETSCII, Lime, and a couple sets of blanks.

Any thoughts on what the must haves are?

I've decided to get True Retro, Retro Burgundy and almost all extras, decided True Retro+Burgundy is better than 2x True Retro's - it costs ~400$'s and covers 2x keyboards with extreme diversity

However, I still couldn't pull the trigger, tho one thing is for sure, If I don't pull the trigger on this set, it would mean that I settled with what I have for the near future :)

I would suggest getting the pro mods etc. too, I know I would regret later on not getting them, even with the Granite set for example, I don't intent to use it, but I kind of regret not adding the "Speciality Keyboards Kit" - which seemed excessive as I already got all the other extras, now I feel like I need that 1u Shift too :)

Hmm was thinking about the Pro Mods but my cart is already $167 without them.. Not sure whether to get rid of the lime or not considering I'm probably going to be limiting myself to 60% boards in the future

I have almost all the additional packs of the Deep Space set and although I don't use any of them, I'm really glad I got them, they are great when I'm trying new layouts, new keyboards etc.

I also decided to settle on 60%'s - now I'm having second thought about going for a 75% etc.

Long story short, you're already paying a lot, 35$ will cancel out a lot of future regrets - even not joining might be better than half joining

------

Hey guys, how likely will SP agree to molding R4 blanks for me?
This is my last remaining concern, I really want/need those blanks in the Retro colors ;)

I'm re-considering all my keyboard choices right now, those blanks will cast the deciding vote for me, otherwise I might settle on DSA's
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 01 June 2015, 20:44:38
I was trying to slow down the amount of group buys I participate in but after getting my set of Hack'd by Geeks last week I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this.

I'm thinking Burgundy, PETSCII, Lime, and a couple sets of blanks.

Any thoughts on what the must haves are?

I've decided to get True Retro, Retro Burgundy and almost all extras, decided True Retro+Burgundy is better than 2x True Retro's - it costs ~400$'s and covers 2x keyboards with extreme diversity

However, I still couldn't pull the trigger, tho one thing is for sure, If I don't pull the trigger on this set, it would mean that I settled with what I have for the near future :)

I would suggest getting the pro mods etc. too, I know I would regret later on not getting them, even with the Granite set for example, I don't intent to use it, but I kind of regret not adding the "Speciality Keyboards Kit" - which seemed excessive as I already got all the other extras, now I feel like I need that 1u Shift too :)

Hmm was thinking about the Pro Mods but my cart is already $167 without them.. Not sure whether to get rid of the lime or not considering I'm probably going to be limiting myself to 60% boards in the future

I have almost all the additional packs of the Deep Space set and although I don't use any of them, I'm really glad I got them, they are great when I'm trying new layouts, new keyboards etc.

I also decided to settle on 60%'s - now I'm having second thought about going for a 75% etc.

Long story short, you're already paying a lot, 35$ will cancel out a lot of future regrets - even not joining might be better than half joining

------

Hey guys, how likely will SP agree to molding R4 blanks for me?
This is my last remaining concern, I really want/need those blanks in the Retro colors ;)

I'm re-considering all my keyboard choices right now, those blanks will cast the deciding vote for me, otherwise I might settle on DSA's

Yeah I think you're right. The incremental cost of some of the add ons is really nothing compared to the main set.
I guess in the words of Ron Swanson "Never half ass something, full ass it"
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 June 2015, 21:00:53
Yeah I think you're right. The incremental cost of some of the add ons is really nothing compared to the main set.
I guess in the words of Ron Swanson "Never half ass something, full ass it"

Never be an Ass-Half always be a full on Ass-Whole  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 01:45:56
Well I found a middle ground between my greed, fomo and simplification urges

x1 SA Retro — Blanks : $6.00 | $6.00
x1 SA Retro — Apple : $25.00 | $25.00
x1 SA Retro — Pro Mods : $35.00 | $35.00
x1 SA Retro — True Retro : $80.00 | $80.00

The only thing left to do now is to request the 1.25/1.75 R4 blanks from SP
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 June 2015, 02:07:11
Aargh! Couldn't resist, added Petscii and Pro mods. Wallet is pooped, but the set will be complete.

Is the 1.75x Control key in the Pro mods kit really Row 4? Shouldn't it be Row3?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 02:12:46
Aargh! Couldn't resist, added Petscii and Pro mods. Wallet is pooped, but the set will be complete.

Is the 1.75x Control key in the Pro mods kit really Row 4? Shouldn't it be Row3?

If my blank requests fail, I will use that R4 1.75 Control as my arrow up - for R3 - I'm going to use the Fn

But indeed the choices are interesting

I really really really wish there was a diverse blank pack too ... I would pay 50$ for some decent blanks and it would likely bump my 160$ order to a 500$ one
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Tue, 02 June 2015, 03:06:07
Very sad I couldn't grab the PETSCII set :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 03:11:23
Very sad I couldn't grab the PETSCII set :(

For me, that was the easiest one to let go, hate side printed keys, they are the reason why I don't seek GMK keysets

PETSCII on the other hand was something unique, yet it's unclear how side printed SA keys turn out, normally even though they are semi-matte they are pretty glossy and easily cleanable, it's unclear whether these side prints are etchings that get dirty or actual prints that are prone to fading etc.
On the other hand it's simple to just let go :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:10:25
Is the 1.75x Control key in the Pro mods kit really Row 4? Shouldn't it be Row3?

I asked this already, jump to here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71636.msg1741134#msg1741134
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:21:34
LAST 2 HOURS!

This would've been my first group buy; what is the likelihood of me obtaining a set after today? Would there be another round?

no round 2!

but you'll surely find some in the classified (and maybe bunny will have some spares).

Is the 1.75x Control key in the Pro mods kit really Row 4? Shouldn't it be Row3?

We included both! Bunny didn't update the image because he's lazy :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:24:45
Finally put my order in last night.
Thanks matt3o for allowing inter folks to get keycaps :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:48:27
Finally put my order in last night.
Thanks matt3o for allowing inter folks to get keycaps :)

you are most welcome!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:51:58
matt3o none of your keycap sets are 1.75/1.25/1.25/1.25 arrow cluster compatible :(
I'm a bit bummed, the granite comes pretty close at 4 1.25's - one 1.75 arrow_up and it would have been perfect :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: MAR82 on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:54:10
Finally put my order in last night.
Thanks matt3o for allowing inter folks to get keycaps :)

But it looks like it's going to be the last time for you and other French and Italian people  :(

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

thank for your post. unfortunately it is very unlikely that I will release more FR-IT kits in the future. DE/Nordic might still work, but there simply not enough interest for other languages.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:00:34
Finally put my order in last night.
Thanks matt3o for allowing inter folks to get keycaps :)

But it looks like it's going to be the last time for you and other French and Italian people  :(

Why do I fear this? Well.. I've seen this discussion and comments all over the place. The community shouts for ISO kits in their native language but when the GB finally happens, only few kits get ordered. I fear that great members like Matt3o will stop making language kits available in future GBs. I am very new to the community and my statement might be wrong. Still I've seen this discussion hence my fears.

So to ALL of you who crave ISO kits in your native language. Beg, borrow, steal... Well, maybe not steal but sell some **** on eBay and buy this set!  :thumb:

thank for your post. unfortunately it is very unlikely that I will release more FR-IT kits in the future. DE/Nordic might still work, but there simply not enough interest for other languages.

I really hope we'll see more but it's already a misery for both the buyer and seller to get us those kits.
With the extra kits it's always a 150$+ bill when you want to get ISO in your language.
Finger crossed that the JTcaps will somehow help us out.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:08:50
matt3o none of your keycap sets are 1.75/1.25/1.25/1.25 arrow cluster compatible :(
I'm a bit bummed, the granite comes pretty close at 4 1.25's - one 1.75 arrow_up and it would have been perfect :)

next time please participate to the IC! I would have gladly included them
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:13:42
...

Is the 1.75x Control key in the Pro mods kit really Row 4? Shouldn't it be Row3?

We included both! Bunny didn't update the image because he's lazy :P

Awsome! Thank you for that. Now the waiting begins... ;) What a great set!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Pemdas on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:33:30
Cutting it close but finally caved in and bought a set, I just knew I'd regret not getting one once I saw the pictures.   :thumb:

Thanks for the buy! Looking forward to getting the caps :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:34:22
matt3o none of your keycap sets are 1.75/1.25/1.25/1.25 arrow cluster compatible :(
I'm a bit bummed, the granite comes pretty close at 4 1.25's - one 1.75 arrow_up and it would have been perfect :)

next time please participate to the IC! I would have gladly included them

Thanks for the info, I'm pretty new around here, I should start checking the IC's too :)

Edit: Just checked the IC thread, indeed I should've pitched in at that stage, even reading the discussions were so exciting
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 02 June 2015, 05:51:31
LAST HOUR OR SO LEFT
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 06:20:43
40 minutes to sell 25 true retro :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 06:23:54
True Retro didn't sell?!!

Look at this color ppl: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absblackbrown.jpg :)

Damn, I wish my blank request to SP is accepted, I'm so going to love this Retro set
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: dezoe on Tue, 02 June 2015, 06:51:57
There. Added Pro mods in the last minute .. and som Lime  :p
True Retro1$80.00
International DE-NO-SE1$25.00
ISO1$20.00
Blanks4$24.00
Pro Mods1$35.00
Lime1$20.00

 :thumb: True Retro Sweden  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: efcs on Tue, 02 June 2015, 06:56:58
Order placed. First post.

1 x True Retro

1 x Lime

 :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 07:17:24
Order placed. First post.

1 x True Retro

1 x Lime

 :)

Lol, welcome!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 02 June 2015, 07:24:05
40 minutes to sell 25 true retro :D

Did you make it to 25 True Retro?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 08:27:46
all done! thanks for making this a successful GB! (especially Elrick and potatowire :) )

I'll contact SP later today and see when this set will be produced.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: teuf on Tue, 02 June 2015, 08:38:09
Any numbers on the amount of kits that were sold? Or is it some kind of secret?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 02 June 2015, 08:47:32
all done! thanks for making this a successful GB! (especially Elrick and potatowire :) )

I'll contact SP later today and see when this set will be produced.

Thank you for designing such a great keyset, Matt3o!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 02 June 2015, 09:30:20
hah ya i be interrested in the actualy sales as well ... if you dont mind telling us

great set .. i had to expand my order twice, thanks bunny for keeping up with me .. its my first gb after all.

and matt .. you got mad design skills i be certainly buying more from you..!!


Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:17:25
this is the final petscii revised and corrected

(http://i.imgur.com/dcsMPxw.png)

I'll post final numbers asap!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:19:17
Very interesting to see how much non qwerty sets were bought (inter+dvorak+petscii)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:42:52
LAST 2 HOURS!

This would've been my first group buy; what is the likelihood of me obtaining a set after today? Would there be another round?

no round 2!

but you'll surely find some in the classified (and maybe bunny will have some spares).

That's what I thought. Rats. I'll keep a keen eye out.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: efcs on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:43:53
Order placed. First post.

1 x True Retro

1 x Lime

 :)

Lol, welcome!

Into the rabbit hole I go...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:45:06
Are we going to be able to buy the Vim key separately? I wanted it but I didn't want to buy the whole PETSCII pack
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:46:05
you are to late anyway to buy anything separat :) the gb is over!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:13:47
Are we going to be able to buy the Vim key separately? I wanted it but I didn't want to buy the whole PETSCII pack
The easiest way would have been to buy the whole pack then sell the caps you didn't want - breaking even. Now, it's going to very hard to find someone who will part with their Vim key. Your best option is to convince someone to run a GB for them
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:26:55
Are we going to be able to buy the Vim key separately? I wanted it but I didn't want to buy the whole PETSCII pack

As I said a few pages back, there have been several rounds of vim keys produced at various times, there are lots of them out there. The classifieds subforum is your friend. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: teuf on Tue, 02 June 2015, 14:21:10
I must have a few extra ones I can spare somewhere...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 02 June 2015, 14:41:23
anyone who paid via paypal, your order should now be marked as paid
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 02 June 2015, 14:54:40
My PayPal order does now say paid, thanks Bunny! I just need to figure out what keyboard these will go on now. I guess I have plenty of time to figure that out though. :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:08:22
By the way, I heard back from SP, blanks will be available in the keyshop after the keyset is shipped

I think they are planning to make this a regular thing, as I interpret from the reply, which is just great for people like me

Anyway, this is great news, I will probably buy a lot of R4 blanks to try them on as the arrow cluster - I have a hunch the GTM might go well with the True Retro - if it doesn't work out, the original color is a safe bet

One thing I learned from this GB, I shouldn't leave things like these to the last minute, instead I should finalize my plan for a keycap set at the IC stage
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:16:06


By the way, I heard back from SP, blanks will be available in the keyshop after the keyset is shipped

I think they are planning to make this a regular thing, as I interpret from the reply, which is just great for people like me
That's what they announced (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/a-new-pmk-is-on-its-way/) for the upcoming changes to PMK:
Quote
Child Deals for blank keys and space bars will be eliminated. We intend to produce those during the production run and make them available as key packs through our Key Shop.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Hofy on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:17:50
Motherpussbucket!  Every GB that I want gets screwed.  My wife lost her job so no extra funds.  Still looking in from the cold.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 03 June 2015, 00:49:38


By the way, I heard back from SP, blanks will be available in the keyshop after the keyset is shipped

I think they are planning to make this a regular thing, as I interpret from the reply, which is just great for people like me
That's what they announced (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/a-new-pmk-is-on-its-way/) for the upcoming changes to PMK:
Quote
Child Deals for blank keys and space bars will be eliminated. We intend to produce those during the production run and make them available as key packs through our Key Shop.

Thanks, I didn't pay attention to that

However, still it's not sure whether it would apply to the Retro GB, as this won't be a keyshop set for sure, well it applies and I hope it keeps applying ;) I need those blanks! :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: fenwick on Thu, 04 June 2015, 00:01:51
I'm so stoked for these. 

I discovered DSA Retro on Keypuller a couple months ago and was so sad that I might never have it, but now SA Retro will be mine!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 04 June 2015, 00:09:01
I'm already having second thoughts about not ordering the Lime and the Alternate Functions :)

Just in case I decide to use 75%'s one day and seek those colors, it's a distant possibility, and even if I bought those packs, I would probably use the True Retro keys, however it would have been great to have the option :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 June 2015, 00:55:47
I'm already having second thoughts about not ordering the Lime and the Alternate Functions :)

Just in case I decide to use 75%'s one day and seek those colors, it's a distant possibility, and even if I bought those packs, I would probably use the True Retro keys, however it would have been great to have the option :)

you might still be able to grab 'em
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 04 June 2015, 02:38:40
I'm already having second thoughts about not ordering the Lime and the Alternate Functions :)

Just in case I decide to use 75%'s one day and seek those colors, it's a distant possibility, and even if I bought those packs, I would probably use the True Retro keys, however it would have been great to have the option :)

you might still be able to grab 'em

I was afraid that was the case :)
I'm so very tempted, let me do more thinking before it's late

I'm trying to select what keys to put for the rightmost 1u R1 R2 R3 R4 spots on a 65%/75% layout, but I can't seem to pick keys

The challenge is the Del, with Pro Mods it's possible to put it almost anywhere, the R1 near backspace makes some sense, however R1 PgUp R2 PgDown R3 Del R4 Fn/Menu might be nice too

Anyway, better get them instead of rambling too much, should I PM Bunny to ask whether there are any available? (as far as going for extras go, I'm also still itching for a second True Retro/Pro Mods combo :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 June 2015, 03:18:58
Anyway, better get them instead of rambling too much, should I PM Bunny to ask whether there are any available? (as far as going for extras go, I'm also still itching for a second True Retro/Pro Mods combo :)

I'm pretty sure bunny will take some extras. Hint him what you need and you will probably be able to grab it once the keys are produced.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Thu, 04 June 2015, 03:19:49
I might have missed it but how long does whole process takes before the caps reaches me.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 June 2015, 07:49:25
all those who ordered but didn't pay yet, please act now! We are placing the order to SP in the coming hours and you  don't want to risk to lose your retro, do you?!?!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 04 June 2015, 08:17:28
I might have missed it but how long does whole process takes before the caps reaches me.

Gonna be 3-4 months
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Thu, 04 June 2015, 09:36:34
8-12 weeks thats what bunny told me
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 04 June 2015, 09:40:58
8-12 weeks thats what bunny told me

miami and hackd by geeks took 8 - 12 weeks

bro set took 8 weeks

it really comes down to how busy sp are, but i would say 8 - 16 weeks would be a very fair and realistic window
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 June 2015, 09:51:46
DSA Retro took 3 weeks (just saying :) )
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 04 June 2015, 10:01:10
DSA Retro took 3 weeks (just saying :) )
I think they are still knee-deep in Granite production :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 04 June 2015, 10:12:44
I just hope they take their time and cool it right :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 05 June 2015, 01:10:04
I just had confirmation from Melissa. They are swamped, lead time is 8 weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 05 June 2015, 01:20:24
I just had confirmation from Melissa. They are swamped, lead time is 8 weeks.

At least it's good that they are busy! :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 05 June 2015, 10:52:05
matt3o any chance the final order numbers are going to be published soon ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:04:58
matt3o any chance the final order numbers are going to be published soon ?

as soon as I get them
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:09:50
matt3o any chance the final order numbers are going to be published soon ?

you are lucky matteo said yes, because i never give that info up hehe
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:11:46
as its going to happen anyway though

you can check out this

http://puu.sh/ic5oH/a085171a1c.png

those were the final paid orders at gb close at the top

and total orders at the bottom

i have a fwe people paying delayed invoices, and i havent added what im gonna purchase yet but itll be somewhere between the graphs, but the top one is fairly accurate
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:18:19
matt3o any chance the final order numbers are going to be published soon ?

you are lucky matteo said yes, because i never give that info up hehe

lol :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:53:04
as its going to happen anyway though

you can check out this

http://puu.sh/ic5oH/a085171a1c.png

those were the final paid orders at gb close at the top

and total orders at the bottom

i have a fwe people paying delayed invoices, and i havent added what im gonna purchase yet but itll be somewhere between the graphs, but the top one is fairly accurate

Kind of surprised Retro Burgundy did so much better than True Retro.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:55:36
im glad afterall its a very rare set .. thanks for showing the graph
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Fri, 05 June 2015, 11:59:20
A little less than 250 of these sets out there?  I feel a little bit more special :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:02:22
matt3o any chance the final order numbers are going to be published soon ?

as soon as I get them

as its going to happen anyway though

you can check out this

http://puu.sh/ic5oH/a085171a1c.png

those were the final paid orders at gb close at the top

and total orders at the bottom

i have a fwe people paying delayed invoices, and i havent added what im gonna purchase yet but itll be somewhere between the graphs, but the top one is fairly accurate

Really interesting to see the numbers for True Retro. I can't wait for mine  :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:17:27
thats going to be the longest 8-12 weeks of my life .. > im a amazon prime member for a good reasion .. feel like a child waiting on chrismas SOOOOO LONG
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:25:38
I'm wondering how the new keyshop is going to shift the keycap dynamics, I have a feeling we might all feel less special once it kicks in, it might dilute the market significantly

I ended up going for a True Retro + Burgundy duo with all mods, no regrets

I also asked SP for a 1.75/1.25 R4 printed arrow cluster quote, if it turns out to be feasible, I might end up using the Retro set for a long time with all my prospective 60%/65%/75% layouts

-----

Well the quote just arrived this moment, it's quite hefty, very hefty, I was thinking of going for 5-6 alternatives to select from, it seems I will have just one shot at $100+ for 4 keys :) (which is not unreasonable, but hefty)

- One possibility is having "UP"/"LEFT" etc. - another one is arrow/nudges similar to the original 1u arrow keys - I used to enjoy the text versions with the Dolch DSA - but with an 60% usage, the arrows could be better - as it would better distinguish the arrows from the other 60% keys
- Another option is the color, http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absgray.jpg - GTM is an official color but it seems a bit risky, GY seems firmer

This is the layout http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/85b9345f838e66e59e9769302b9d9a0c - it will be all True Retro, with VAV Esc, and maybe VAV Enter too - the arrow cluster will have a different color to distinguish itself

I would really appreciate ideas to help me select, and maybe if there are other 60% right arrow cluster users out there, we might get a micro-GB going on
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:28:16
if you read about the keyshop items carefully .. they need to have permission from the owners .. if matt3o does not sign the royality deal they cant do that ..

legaly thats just for the groupbuys they do ..

not a lawyer but the creative rights are still at matt
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:33:05
To the passion going into this from organisers and creators:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 12:43:27
if you read about the keyshop items carefully .. they need to have permission from the owners .. if matt3o does not sign the royality deal they cant do that ..

legaly thats just for the groupbuys they do ..

not a lawyer but the creative rights are still at matt

I know that, but currently, group buys are scarce, SA keycaps are extremely rare, even DSA's are rarities, and that makes me feel special, likely others too

With this proposed/new 200 vote + production system, that will no longer be the case, so the Retro set won't run again, but many others will

The main issue is the addiction, I probably have 10 D/SA keycap sets, when they become easily available, my buyer's remorse will likely peak - at least currently this scarcity is easing the remorse
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mesteris on Fri, 05 June 2015, 13:34:08
I think your keycap sets will probably still retain much of their value despite PMK's new system. What I bet is likely to happen is that new interest checks for different keysets will be produced initially, like Carbon. Keep in mind they only produce a certain number of sets still with each run. They will consider reruns though, they have not specified on what sets. Part of me thinks that they will only rerun the new sets that include the royalty agreement.

edit: unless you're just sad about the DSA/SA profiles becoming more available
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:19:02
I said I won't run SA Round 2 (or DSA Round 2) and I stick to that. Actually none of my sets got a round 2 except for Granite (that got 3).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:20:57
I think your keycap sets will probably still retain much of their value despite PMK's new system. What I bet is likely to happen is that new interest checks for different keysets will be produced initially, like Carbon. Keep in mind they only produce a certain number of sets still with each run. They will consider reruns though, they have not specified on what sets. Part of me thinks that they will only rerun the new sets that include the royalty agreement.

edit: unless you're just sad about the DSA/SA profiles becoming more available

LOL @ thinking that buying keycap sets is an investment.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mesteris on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:25:22
I think your keycap sets will probably still retain much of their value despite PMK's new system. What I bet is likely to happen is that new interest checks for different keysets will be produced initially, like Carbon. Keep in mind they only produce a certain number of sets still with each run. They will consider reruns though, they have not specified on what sets. Part of me thinks that they will only rerun the new sets that include the royalty agreement.

edit: unless you're just sad about the DSA/SA profiles becoming more available

LOL @ thinking that buying keycap sets is an investment.

https://www.google.com/#q=DEFINE:+VALUE
Never said they were investments. Value has multiple definitions.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:28:21
I think your keycap sets will probably still retain much of their value despite PMK's new system. What I bet is likely to happen is that new interest checks for different keysets will be produced initially, like Carbon. Keep in mind they only produce a certain number of sets still with each run. They will consider reruns though, they have not specified on what sets. Part of me thinks that they will only rerun the new sets that include the royalty agreement.

edit: unless you're just sad about the DSA/SA profiles becoming more available

LOL @ thinking that buying keycap sets is an investment.

It's not really about whether one thinks it's an investment or not, but it's more related to addictions and buyer's remorse

It feels good when things increase in value rather then their value becoming 0 right after you buy it

A great example is Lego's

If you had one of these in your attic in sealed condition, waiting for the right time to open and build it, and suddenly lego would decide to re-run them, you would probably be devastated even if you're not in it for the money: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-10179-Millennium-Falcon-UCS-New-SEALED-/201364579906

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: efcs on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:30:57
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:35:53
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I would be extremely surprised if it was the other way around, if you're using a standard layout, having the modifiers in a different color is visually pleasing, likely many of the buyers are in it for the keycaps rather than the C64-likeness
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:42:22
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I would be extremely surprised if it was the other way around, if you're using a standard layout, having the modifiers in a different color is visually pleasing, likely many of the buyers are in it for the keycaps rather than the C64-likeness

I prefer having only a few keys colored differently, like enter and maybe escape. I went with true retro, lime, petscii, and the alt. functions.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 14:54:36
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I would be extremely surprised if it was the other way around, if you're using a standard layout, having the modifiers in a different color is visually pleasing, likely many of the buyers are in it for the keycaps rather than the C64-likeness

I prefer having only a few keys colored differently, like enter and maybe escape. I went with true retro, lime, petscii, and the alt. functions.

For some reason I can't even handle the enter, it will probably be only Esc in green for me, adding the green Enter just makes it too asymmetrical for my taste, but I will try again with the Retro set (with Eve's blue Esc and Enter, this was the case for me, I ended up not using the blue Enter)

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For my custom arrow keys order/plan I reduced the possible colors to GPA and TBN - using "UP"/"LEFT"/"DOWN"/"RIGHT" as phrases instead of the arrow icons

TBN is a safe bet, especially if I decide to use the green Enter, or decide to go for an all TBN selection
GPA would pull the colorbalance to a more dark gray place, which is what I want, however if I decide to use the green enter, it could be too distracting, or the opposite could happen too, it could break the asymmetry that the green enter brings

Currently, I will probably end up ordering the arrow keys in both colors, as I can't seem to decide, one has to see the colors/keycaps in person / test them, since that's impossible, the safe and costly bet is to get them both
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Fri, 05 June 2015, 15:51:08
I also asked SP for a 1.75/1.25 R4 printed arrow cluster quote, if it turns out to be feasible, I might end up using the Retro set for a long time with all my prospective 60%/65%/75% layouts

-----

Well the quote just arrived this moment, it's quite hefty, very hefty, I was thinking of going for 5-6 alternatives to select from, it seems I will have just one shot at $100+ for 4 keys :) (which is not unreasonable, but hefty)

- One possibility is having "UP"/"LEFT" etc. - another one is arrow/nudges similar to the original 1u arrow keys - I used to enjoy the text versions with the Dolch DSA - but with an 60% usage, the arrows could be better - as it would better distinguish the arrows from the other 60% keys
- Another option is the color, http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absgray.jpg - GTM is an official color but it seems a bit risky, GY seems firmer

This is the layout http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/85b9345f838e66e59e9769302b9d9a0c - it will be all True Retro, with VAV Esc, and maybe VAV Enter too - the arrow cluster will have a different color to distinguish itself

I would really appreciate ideas to help me select, and maybe if there are other 60% right arrow cluster users out there, we might get a micro-GB going on

If you end up starting a group buy put me down as interested. I've got an infinity coming from the most recent massdrop and if I end up using it at home I think I may end up using those keys as arrows too.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 05 June 2015, 22:56:39
I said I won't run SA Round 2 (or DSA Round 2) and I stick to that. Actually none of my sets got a round 2 except for Granite (that got 3).

So happy to be a part of this one then...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 06 June 2015, 04:07:03
I also asked SP for a 1.75/1.25 R4 printed arrow cluster quote, if it turns out to be feasible, I might end up using the Retro set for a long time with all my prospective 60%/65%/75% layouts

-----

Well the quote just arrived this moment, it's quite hefty, very hefty, I was thinking of going for 5-6 alternatives to select from, it seems I will have just one shot at $100+ for 4 keys :) (which is not unreasonable, but hefty)

- One possibility is having "UP"/"LEFT" etc. - another one is arrow/nudges similar to the original 1u arrow keys - I used to enjoy the text versions with the Dolch DSA - but with an 60% usage, the arrows could be better - as it would better distinguish the arrows from the other 60% keys
- Another option is the color, http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absgray.jpg - GTM is an official color but it seems a bit risky, GY seems firmer

This is the layout http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/85b9345f838e66e59e9769302b9d9a0c - it will be all True Retro, with VAV Esc, and maybe VAV Enter too - the arrow cluster will have a different color to distinguish itself

I would really appreciate ideas to help me select, and maybe if there are other 60% right arrow cluster users out there, we might get a micro-GB going on

If you end up starting a group buy put me down as interested. I've got an infinity coming from the most recent massdrop and if I end up using it at home I think I may end up using those keys as arrows too.

After seeing this rendering(?) of a C64 replica: http://hothardware.com/news/living-fossil--new-commodore-64-trades-on-nostalgia

I guess I might go for TBN-only arrows with arrow nudges in 1.75/1.25 - diluting the keyset with another color seems like blasphemy and arrow nudges look great :)

It might have been good if a TBN R1 Esc was included too - I'm sure I would've used the VAV one anyway, yet it would be great to get a full retro thing going on with 60%'s

FuriousGeorge, I don't think I can gather enough interested parties/handle the logistics for a group buy-ish thing, yet if you would be willing to spend ~100$ on a 1.75/1.25 arrow cluster, let me know, we can order together and handle the logistics later on, same applies for anyone else ($100+ is for 4 keys one set, I'm not sure how lower it gets with increased sets, but it gets lower as I'm told)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 06 June 2015, 23:28:32
I said I won't run SA Round 2 (or DSA Round 2) and I stick to that. Actually none of my sets got a round 2 except for Granite (that got 3).

MassDrop owns your Granite's now Matt  :o .

Good to make your key-sets highly rare so that it doesn't become another boring key-set that was made a million times over.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sat, 06 June 2015, 23:43:48
I said I won't run SA Round 2 (or DSA Round 2) and I stick to that. Actually none of my sets got a round 2 except for Granite (that got 3).

MassDrop owns your Granite's now Matt  :o .

Good to make your key-sets highly rare so that it doesn't become another boring key-set that was made a million times over.

Agreed. The rarity adds to the excitement of the actual set. I only stumbled upon my dsa retro set this month after years of searching for a good deal. Unfortunately still searching for the dsa retro green esc key but it's part of the fun.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 07 June 2015, 00:58:12
Agreed. The rarity adds to the excitement of the actual set.

Remember that movie called A.I., when in the far future the whole of planet Earth was covered in ice and within that giant glacial tomb, aliens arrive to dig and thaw out remnants of our long dead culture.

The aliens come across a rusting robot typing with a strange looking input device, to their surprise Matt3o's Retro Key-set is gleaming up at them.  Imagine to their astonishment, in finding the absolute LAST data input device created by these ancient beings (us), a curiously coloured key-set that signifies our brightest achievement for the last four thousand years of our existence.

Suspect this last remaining key-set would fetch a nice price back in the Andromeda Galaxy  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: rickyhobby on Sun, 07 June 2015, 03:21:11
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I really see this as two different sets that were ran together.  Each on their own would have resulted in good sales.

True Retro (and PETSCII) was faithful to the C-64 and deserved the hype of the signature banners.

Retro Burgundy (in my opinion) didn't have a retro feel, but was an awesome colour combination.  Plus, the fact that it was round 2 (sorta... SA vs DSA) gave it a pre-demand (if you will).

So comparing them to each other is (half) like apples to oranges.  I think that there were separate buyers for each.  I was one (true retro...)

Rick
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:19:55
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I really see this as two different sets that were ran together.  Each on their own would have resulted in good sales.

Rick

That's also a bit how I feel, which makes it a (small) issue only having the Lime Enter key for my ISO True Retro set.
Now, I gather there is a bit of interest in having some special keys made separately following this, any chance of including the missing Enter key(s) in that, in order for us few ISO folks to complete the True and Burgundy looks?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:26:42
I'm also surprised True Retro only sold half as much as Retro Burgundy.

Isn't True Retro more loyal to the C64 look?  :)

I really see this as two different sets that were ran together.  Each on their own would have resulted in good sales.

Rick

That's also a bit how I feel, which makes it a (small) issue only having the Lime Enter key for my ISO True Retro set.
Now, I gather there is a bit of interest in having some special keys made separately following this, any chance of including the missing Enter key(s) in that, in order for us few ISO folks to complete the True and Burgundy looks?

I haven't noticed that, you can get one from SP for 100$'s / 99.99% - as 100$'s is their minimum order amount, and I'm guessing SA ISO Enter key is an expensive key to one-off

After you mentioned it, I noticed that it's possible to achieve true True Retro on ANSI with Alternate Function's R1 Esc, for some reason I didn't realise this before

After doing a lot of thinking on how I would use this keyset, I might have bought 2x True Retro + Pro Mods instead of the True Retro + Burgundy combo, but given that I change my keycap ideas almost weekly, I guess I might use the Burgundy one in the future
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:35:24
So if I understand correctly, 100$ + ship would buy me the ISO-enter key straight of the manufacturer? That's expensive, sure, but by no means unreasonable and I would definitely consider that.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:36:22
And excuse my ignorance, but would that be alright with the designer, Matt3o?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:42:56
So if I understand correctly, 100$ + ship would buy me the ISO-enter key straight of the manufacturer? That's expensive, sure, but by no means unreasonable and I would definitely consider that.

My 4 custom arrow keys are going to cost 110$-something, the 1.75 one is 49$-something, the 1.25's are 19$-something's - If the 1.75 one is 49$'s - the ISO Enter should be close to 100$'s - this is speculation - but you are right

I think this flexility is great, I wish I did the same for the DSA sets I bought earlier, they all had minor flaws that made them imperfect/unusable for me, some didn't have the 1.25CMD keys, some didn't have a decent 1.75 key, none of them had a 1.75 arrow cluster etc.

Make sure you specify exactly what you want when you are asking for a SP quote, like 1x "ISO R3 Enter in TBN with WCK legends" etc.

I'm wondering how much an entire 60% set costs, likely it's 500$++
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 07 June 2015, 06:44:17
And excuse my ignorance, but would that be alright with the designer, Matt3o?

+1 :)

I didn't ask for explicit permissions, but I hope/d he is ok with it (?)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 07 June 2015, 07:46:57
i think matt3o would have sayed something if he wasnt cool with that :) but usualy you right .. but its more dramatic with a full set

the colors / shape  are IP of SP anyway ..

matt3o holds a overall design right( more like a composition design right ) .. yet not on keys never been offerd with that set ..
its a different story if you reproduce parts of the set / the full set ( that be a violation of ip/copyright)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: dezoe on Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:08:31
So if I understand correctly, 100$ + ship would buy me the ISO-enter key straight of the manufacturer? That's expensive, sure, but by no means unreasonable and I would definitely consider that.

Would it be possible to do a mini group buy for iso enter in true retro?
Would 25 iso enters be too few for SP to consider?
Also check if it´s ok with Matt3o.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:18:47
So if I understand correctly, 100$ + ship would buy me the ISO-enter key straight of the manufacturer? That's expensive, sure, but by no means unreasonable and I would definitely consider that.

Would it be possible to do a mini group buy for iso enter in true retro?
Would 25 iso enters be too few for SP to consider?
Also check if it´s ok with Matt3o.

25 iso enters would be enough to achieve an affordable price, but I don't think you can find 25 people interested in the keycap, also the logistics are pretty challenging, someone likely has to step up to handle the shipping etc.

We should've all been around in the interest check stage, it would make things much easier :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: facetsesame on Sun, 07 June 2015, 11:55:58
I'd definitely be interested in several TBN/WCK ISO enters at a 25 keys price.  15 keys may also work, but the unit cost would probably be a lot higher.

I'll ask about interest in these on DT.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sun, 07 June 2015, 13:58:52
For the sake of getting this done, I wouldn't mind pledging for a couple. Assuming they would then be less than 100$ each.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: facetsesame on Sun, 07 June 2015, 17:06:23
For the sake of getting this done, I wouldn't mind pledging for a couple. Assuming they would then be less than 100$ each.
I don't think you'll have a problem meeting that price point, but it might be a little high for widespread support!

I'm also up for putting some money into getting this going, but we'll need to see a quote from SP to really gauge how far the funds would go.  I'm up for raising a quote request if you haven't already.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Slavfot on Mon, 08 June 2015, 18:30:40
I'm also in for a non lime ISO Enter groupbuy
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Mon, 08 June 2015, 20:53:51
I also asked SP for a 1.75/1.25 R4 printed arrow cluster quote, if it turns out to be feasible, I might end up using the Retro set for a long time with all my prospective 60%/65%/75% layouts

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Well the quote just arrived this moment, it's quite hefty, very hefty, I was thinking of going for 5-6 alternatives to select from, it seems I will have just one shot at $100+ for 4 keys :) (which is not unreasonable, but hefty)

- One possibility is having "UP"/"LEFT" etc. - another one is arrow/nudges similar to the original 1u arrow keys - I used to enjoy the text versions with the Dolch DSA - but with an 60% usage, the arrows could be better - as it would better distinguish the arrows from the other 60% keys
- Another option is the color, http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/absgray.jpg - GTM is an official color but it seems a bit risky, GY seems firmer

This is the layout http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/85b9345f838e66e59e9769302b9d9a0c - it will be all True Retro, with VAV Esc, and maybe VAV Enter too - the arrow cluster will have a different color to distinguish itself

I would really appreciate ideas to help me select, and maybe if there are other 60% right arrow cluster users out there, we might get a micro-GB going on

If you end up starting a group buy put me down as interested. I've got an infinity coming from the most recent massdrop and if I end up using it at home I think I may end up using those keys as arrows too.

After seeing this rendering(?) of a C64 replica: http://hothardware.com/news/living-fossil--new-commodore-64-trades-on-nostalgia

I guess I might go for TBN-only arrows with arrow nudges in 1.75/1.25 - diluting the keyset with another color seems like blasphemy and arrow nudges look great :)

It might have been good if a TBN R1 Esc was included too - I'm sure I would've used the VAV one anyway, yet it would be great to get a full retro thing going on with 60%'s

FuriousGeorge, I don't think I can gather enough interested parties/handle the logistics for a group buy-ish thing, yet if you would be willing to spend ~100$ on a 1.75/1.25 arrow cluster, let me know, we can order together and handle the logistics later on, same applies for anyone else ($100+ is for 4 keys one set, I'm not sure how lower it gets with increased sets, but it gets lower as I'm told)

Sorry, just realized I never responded.That's too rich for me, unfortunately. I can probably only talk myself into the $25 ish range.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 08 June 2015, 22:01:36
The decision to select the arrow cluster style/type was hard, as it's tempting to go with an all-text keycap selection for uniformity, but trying different options with an image editor helped: http://i.imgur.com/fHNcWdq.jpg

Without the green enter on, the text-only arrow option was tempting, but putting the green enter on finalised my decision - also the 1u small Shift looks unappealing with a 1.75u "UP" key, the sizing difference isn't pretty - so the original arrow nudges were the best choice

It seems with my 60% layout/usage, I can't use 2-tone keysets, so all in all, the Retro keycap set/thinking helped me a lot in my keycap journey already :)

For those who are interested in the layout, blank keycaps also look great as a 1.75 arrow cluster - so it might be a good idea to buy some after the set is produced
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 09 June 2015, 14:06:38
hey guys

i just paid for this gb with sp

it ran a bit over budget but not too much, we knew some kits would struggle but wanted to present a very complete gb

sp advised us it would take about 8 weeks, but once they give me a ship date i will update here
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 09 June 2015, 14:08:38
hey guys

i just paid for this gb with sp

it ran a bit over budget but not too much, we knew some kits would struggle but wanted to present a very complete gb

sp advised us it would take about 8 weeks, but once they give me a ship date i will update here

Thank you + matt3o + ctrlalt <3

I was ready for an 12-16 weeks wait time, waiting 8 weeks should be easy, with any luck lets hope it becomes 6-7 - I'm too excited for this set - my fingers are in need of some sculpture with style
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 09 June 2015, 14:12:35
hey guys

i just paid for this gb with sp

it ran a bit over budget but not too much, we knew some kits would struggle but wanted to present a very complete gb

sp advised us it would take about 8 weeks, but once they give me a ship date i will update here

Woo hoo!

Can I ask, for curiosity's sake, what the total amount was? Other aspects of this run have been pretty transparent...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 09 June 2015, 14:22:40
hey guys

i just paid for this gb with sp

it ran a bit over budget but not too much, we knew some kits would struggle but wanted to present a very complete gb

sp advised us it would take about 8 weeks, but once they give me a ship date i will update here

Woo hoo!

Can I ask, for curiosity's sake, what the total amount was? Other aspects of this run have been pretty transparent...

about 35k

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Tue, 09 June 2015, 16:56:25
thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Tue, 09 June 2015, 19:29:55
Thanks for the update guys, can't wait to dress that minila (or other boards after :P)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: bquorning on Fri, 12 June 2015, 02:41:06
Nooo, I’ve been wanting the original Retro ever since I first saw it, and now I missed this deal – by 10 days!

Well, my fingers are crossed – maybe there’ll be a new Retro set in a couple of years?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 12 June 2015, 02:44:30
Nooo, I’ve been wanting the original Retro ever since I first saw it, and now I missed this deal – by 10 days!

Well, my fingers are crossed – maybe there’ll be a new Retro set in a couple of years?
:(
I said I won't run SA Round 2 (or DSA Round 2) and I stick to that. Actually none of my sets got a round 2 except for Granite (that got 3).
I think you'll have to get lucky by stalking this thread for someone giving away their order or checking the community markets.

Welcome to Geekhack BTW! :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: bquorning on Fri, 12 June 2015, 06:16:37
For the real classics I tend to get two (one for posterity and one for use) and this definitely qualifies, but my wallet is thin this month... I know I'll probably just get two anyway, though. ;)
Hi, I am posterity. Can I buy that extra keyset of yours? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 12 June 2015, 06:43:00
even if someone sells it suspect it to be with a 100% markup
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:32:31
even if someone sells it suspect it to be with a 100% markup

Really? I've not seen that for full keysets. Maybe artisan singles...

It's been my experience that most simply sell the sets for what they originally paid if they even sell them at all...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:55:34

even if someone sells it suspect it to be with a 100% markup

Really? I've not seen that for full keysets. Maybe artisan singles...

It's been my experience that most simply sell the sets for what they originally paid if they even sell them at all...

I've seen the base Pulse TKL kit ($70ish?) fetch over $200 recently... twice, under the pretense that MiTo is gone and it was stated early on that no additional sets would ever run.

Sometimes people will change their minds before their order ships and sell their kit beforehand (a la TA), so you could keep an eye on the thread...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 12 June 2015, 17:19:51
I just got a letter from my card company, they put a hold on my account for the SA Retro purchase... Hope this didn't affect my order, I just got the holds lifted  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 12 June 2015, 17:28:18
I just got a letter from my card company, they put a hold on my account for the SA Retro purchase... Hope this didn't affect my order, I just got the holds lifted  :-X

i have a paid order for this from you

Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 12 June 2015, 17:29:18
I just got a letter from my card company, they put a hold on my account for the SA Retro purchase... Hope this didn't affect my order, I just got the holds lifted  :-X

i have a paid order for this from you

Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

As long as you guys got the payment. Thanks for the verification!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 12 June 2015, 18:57:49
hey guys

i just paid for this gb with sp

it ran a bit over budget but not too much, we knew some kits would struggle but wanted to present a very complete gb

sp advised us it would take about 8 weeks, but once they give me a ship date i will update here

Woo hoo!

Can I ask, for curiosity's sake, what the total amount was? Other aspects of this run have been pretty transparent...

about 35k

Geez, who would of thought some ABS plastic could cost that much  :o .

Bunny, if you've purchased more than needed, put some on your CTRL/ALT site and I bet you they'll be picked up straight away.  When these arrive and get installed into various keyboards every fence-sitter that missed out on buying any would then jump on this.  Once Retro is sold out then that's it, another great key-set shall disappear into history but only brought out and shown what had been built, making future generations jealous with extreme envy  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Tue, 16 June 2015, 10:09:06
Not sure how to go about this (if it's possible, i'd hate to be a pain to CTRL ALT) but if anyone missed out and willing to take my burgundy base set and burgundy 10 key and willing to do a PPG for the balance I paid (so $124) i'd be willing to do so. Got lured into picking up a HHKB

Anyone know how to go about doing so without being a pain in the ass? I can take screen captures of my paypal transactions (minus sensitive info) if that helps.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:05:16
i can take the burg. base set and the burg numb block if you still have it
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Wed, 17 June 2015, 07:48:35
i can take the burg. base set and the burg numb block if you still have it

Well I don't have it per say but the order is still in my name/address. The shipping country would change so that'd have to be ok with bunny to update, probably have to see if there's a change in shipping costs too.

Ok checked, I can update the shipping address and send it to you. I can PM you screen shots of everything this evening, unfortunately that site is blocked to me from work. Can work it out from there.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 17 June 2015, 08:21:29
emailed bunny .. i keep you posted
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: slp1 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:17:29
Is it too late to order this set ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:30:51
far to late .. orders where closed 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:41:53
Is it too late to order this set ?

Follow the thread though as it is likely that someone will have to drop out

If youre quick you can scoop up their order
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: slp1 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:03:25
Thanks for your responses, I'm new here as you can see so I'm not used to group buy.

I will try follow this one otherwise I will wait for another nice kit :)
Btw at what rate are kits with ISO-AZERTY options proposed here ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:07:44
Btw at what rate are kits with ISO-AZERTY options proposed here ?

Rare , about 1 set/year
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: efcs on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:21:43
Just saw episode 3 of Halt and Catch Fire and seeing the C64 made me a little bit more impatient to get this set.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:43:26
Just saw episode 3 of Halt and Catch Fire and seeing the C64 made me a little bit more impatient to get this set.  :)
And I just saw a documentary  about retro games in Sweden. Making me regret that I didn't order the PETSCII set also. On the other hand it would look weird together with my Nordic ISO kit.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 17 June 2015, 19:40:32
And I just saw a documentary  about retro games in Sweden. Making me regret that I didn't order the PETSCII set also.
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Regrets are the bane of every Geekhacker here.  Trick is to choose when to feel that crushing emotion of failure when it comes to purchasing, in any Group Buy.

Fortunately for me, I'm a PETSCII Lover and no one can deny my intense passion, for this type of key-set  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Thu, 18 June 2015, 15:28:08
anyone missed out and willing to take my burgundy base set and burgundy 10 key and willing to do a PPG for the balance I paid (so $124) i'd be willing to do so.


nvm. will keep and see what I want to do after I get them and some other stuff coming my way.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Thu, 18 June 2015, 20:00:26
just be aware that the original owner of the order can change the delivery address at any time and you cant do anything against that

even if you payed for it .. there is no way for ctrl alt to controll that stuff ..

its a transaction between you and the "owner" he is still the owner even if you pay HIM for it ..
( contract law is very fuzzy about stuff like that )

i recomend to wait till they are shipped and purchase spares on ctrl alt or via ebay ( if someone sells it after they are shipped) where you have some protection.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Thu, 18 June 2015, 21:25:28
just be aware that the original owner of the order can change the delivery address at any time and you cant do anything against that

even if you payed for it .. there is no way for ctrl alt to controll that stuff ..

its a transaction between you and the "owner" he is still the owner even if you pay HIM for it ..
( contract law is very fuzzy about stuff like that )

i recomend to wait till they are shipped and purchase spares on ctrl alt or via ebay ( if someone sells it after they are shipped) where you have some protection.

Buyer beware, but what'd I do to you there sunshine? Gave option of it not being a gift to give buyer level of protection.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 19 June 2015, 01:26:22
not saying its the case with you ,
dont get me wrong :)

but since ctrlalt doesnt get involved ( and bunny gave a long explenation why)

its hard to protect it on a buyer to buyer level .. we still talk about money right ?

i merly statet that the risk of buying it from anyone expect bunny.

special with new accounts .. ( trust gotta be earned )
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 19 June 2015, 03:47:21
i merly statet that the risk of buying it from anyone expect bunny.

special with new accounts .. ( trust gotta be earned )

If you're worried about being ripped off just buy any order off the oldies on this forum, the newbies you should watch out because they haven't established themselves yet, so handing over hundreds to someone who joined yesterday, might be like handing over all your money to a fake Ethiopian Prince  ;D .

Good luck.........
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Fri, 19 June 2015, 10:57:46
i merly statet that the risk of buying it from anyone expect bunny.

special with new accounts .. ( trust gotta be earned )

If you're worried about being ripped off just buy any order off the oldies on this forum, the newbies you should watch out because they haven't established themselves yet, so handing over hundreds to someone who joined yesterday, might be like handing over all your money to a fake Ethiopian Prince  ;D .

Good luck.........
I just so happen to be an Ethiopian Prince. But I have run into some problems in my kingdom. You see we were given computers by an International Aid group but alas they had to give us second hand keyboards for which we don't have all the keys. So if all of you could help my people so they can use the computers. All we need are your spare key sets.
PM me and I will give you the address of my intermediate in the US who will forward them to me.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Sat, 20 June 2015, 12:19:08
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 20 June 2015, 12:38:22
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

A very interesting choice :)

I would never trade a proven colorset for an unproven one, but I guess it varies from usage/interest to usage/interest
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:42:11
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

You must be totally depraved beyond words  :o , get both of them and stop this heresy immediately.

There is always room for Retro and Jukebox in anyone's collection, if you still want to call yourself a true Geekhacker  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Sat, 20 June 2015, 20:54:15
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

You must be totally depraved beyond words  :o , get both of them and stop this heresy immediately.

There is always room for Retro and Jukebox in anyone's collection, if you still want to call yourself a true Geekhacker  8) .
Definitely room in my collection. Modern Selectric too. :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 20 June 2015, 20:57:09
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

You must be totally depraved beyond words  :o , get both of them and stop this heresy immediately.

There is always room for Retro and Jukebox in anyone's collection, if you still want to call yourself a true Geekhacker  8) .
Definitely room in my collection. Modern Selectric too. :D

Modern Selectric lost me at the right-aligned \| - too modern for me :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Sat, 20 June 2015, 21:12:13
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

You must be totally depraved beyond words  :o , get both of them and stop this heresy immediately.

There is always room for Retro and Jukebox in anyone's collection, if you still want to call yourself a true Geekhacker  8) .
Definitely room in my collection. Modern Selectric too. :D

Modern Selectric lost me at the right-aligned \| - too modern for me :)
Almost lost me on price, but it came together in the end. Still hated paying $43 for the numpad, but oh well I guess.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Mon, 22 June 2015, 09:35:24
Hi guys
I and facetsesame have set up an interest check for a Brown ISO Enter to go with the True Retro persuasion of this wonderful keyset.
Or rather, we are going to have 25 keys made at SP and offer them up to whomever might be interested.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73052.0

cheers
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 22 June 2015, 09:52:39
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP). Going for Jukebox instead. Pm me

You must be totally depraved beyond words  :o , get both of them and stop this heresy immediately.

There is always room for Retro and Jukebox in anyone's collection, if you still want to call yourself a true Geekhacker  8) .
Elrick, your hype exceeds most of our wallets.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 22 June 2015, 17:20:35
hey guys, im 99% sure we posted this at the time, but i cant find it if i did, but sp said these should be done and shipping to us at the end of july

we will use the same model with this as we have for recent gbs, and get them turned around within a couple of days for everyone

they normally take a few days to get to us once they have shipped, and as soon as sp let us know they have either myself or matteo will advise it here

on a side but possibly related note, the day i move in to my new house is august 1st, at this point, i have no idea how long itll take me to have internet set up, ive had moves before where its done in a couple days, and moves where its taken a couple of weeks, hopefully closer to the time ill have a better idea but its possible when these land with cody in the US i wont be around for a few days or more

if thats the case, ill find a way to get on and at least let people know whats going on, and catch up with matteo as often as possible to relay any updates here in this thread

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 22 June 2015, 19:32:28
on a side but possibly related note, the day i move in to my new house is august 1st, at this point, i have no idea how long itll take me to have internet set up, ive had moves before where its done in a couple days, and moves where its taken a couple of weeks, hopefully closer to the time ill have a better idea but its possible when these land with cody in the US i wont be around for a few days or more

Congrats Bunny in joining the home owners club here  :thumb: .

BunnyLake "home owner", you can be proud of that title  8) .

Nothing better than setting yourself up now with a new home for you and your family, hope everything goes to plan.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Mon, 22 June 2015, 22:55:29
Anyone looking to unload a Burgundy set with matching numpad?
 :-\
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Dog on Thu, 25 June 2015, 02:25:31
Starting to worry about if I should have picked up some blanks. Too late now, but I think I have my bases covered.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 25 June 2015, 02:32:56
Starting to worry about if I should have picked up some blanks. Too late now, but I think I have my bases covered.

SP's supposed to produce blanks after each keyset they produce and sell it on their shop, it's a new thing

Edit: I wish they did this earlier too, I have too many blank DSA's at different colors that don't go too well with any set
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Thu, 25 June 2015, 06:07:03
@dog i ordered 13 sets of blanks .. if you realy need some and ctrl alt does not sell them .. let me know

@khaannn thats true but only if they they are sold over pmk .. and this one is not
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 02 July 2015, 16:49:30
Hey everyone,

Is the Shifts really Row3 again? Somehow I was under the impression that this will be the first set with Row4 shifts, I don't know how I got that impression, probably because this is misleading: https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro after this explicit warning: https://ctrlalt.io/buys/hack-d-by-geeks - there were also some rumors, I ended up thinking the shifts are Row4

I probably need another custom arrow_up keycap, this time a Row3 and a Row3 1u Shift to make my layout symmetrical: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/2d1305ac6d0cf4bc1185f5a1fe1f53ac - I don't like the idea of having only the Row3 shift as the odd one out, better downgrade the arrow_up and 1u shift to Row3 to at least get a weird sculpture going on

As another update, probably the gray color changed, as matt3o announced over deskthority
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Dog on Thu, 02 July 2015, 20:00:17
@dog i ordered 13 sets of blanks .. if you realy need some and ctrl alt does not sell them .. let me know

Thanks, I appreciate that =) I'll let you know
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Thu, 02 July 2015, 23:41:00
Putting my order up for sale at cost ($231) + paypal fees. I'd like a buyer from the US since that's the shipping method that is payed for.

Set includes:
Retro Burgundy
Pro Burgundy mods
Nunpad Burgundy
Alternate functions
4x blanks sets
Big spacebars

(http://i.imgur.com/bzmfXR9.png)

Still available as of 7/5/2015
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 03 July 2015, 23:48:33
What time frame are we looking to be receiving these beauties?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 03 July 2015, 23:50:16
What time frame are we looking to be receiving these beauties?

sp said these should be done and shipping to us at the end of july

we will use the same model with this as we have for recent gbs, and get them turned around within a couple of days for everyone

they normally take a few days to get to us once they have shipped, and as soon as sp let us know they have either myself or matteo will advise it here

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 06 July 2015, 22:07:11
I hope the R4 Shifts get produced soon so we could get a group buy going on for some sculpturally correct shifts :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 07 July 2015, 00:17:06
don't hold your breath...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 07 July 2015, 01:21:26
don't hold your breath...

yeah ... :)

worst part is, all these SA/DSA group buys are clouding/delaying Cherry/OEM/DCS ones, after using D/SA's for some time, I have an extreme thirst for some decent sculpture
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KatzenKinder on Tue, 07 July 2015, 03:10:08

don't hold your breath...

yeah ... :)

worst part is, all these SA/DSA group buys are clouding/delaying Cherry/OEM/DCS ones, after using D/SA's for some time, I have an extreme thirst for some decent sculpture

Yeah, it's a shame. Glad there are more manufacturers getting into the mix; I got tired of DSA pretty quickly, so I'm not as dependent on SP personally. Unless when this set comes in I get hooked on SA...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 07 July 2015, 20:46:26
Unless when this set comes in I get hooked on SA...

Trust me when this set comes in, you'll be hooked like a crack-ho in a toilet.  All you will ever want from that day forward is MORE SA profiled caps, nothing will stand in your way, nothing........  8)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Tue, 07 July 2015, 20:49:37
Unless when this set comes in I get hooked on SA...

Trust me when this set comes in, you'll be hooked like a crack-ho in a toilet.  All you will ever want from that day forward is MORE SA profiled caps, nothing will stand in your way, nothing........  8)

Unless a GMK Retro... then we'll hear the cries of our wallets begging for mercy.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 09 July 2015, 06:26:27
Unless when this set comes in I get hooked on SA...

Trust me when this set comes in, you'll be hooked like a crack-ho in a toilet.  All you will ever want from that day forward is MORE SA profiled caps, nothing will stand in your way, nothing........  8)

The Cherry/OEM profiles are like all-row-4 SA's - each row has a height difference, all of the keycaps are tilted
Comparatively, the row-1-2-3-4 is like a slide, each row connected to one another

I guess only experience will show which sculpture is better, but after some thinking, I think I prefer normal keycaps more, especially this row3 shift issue is demotivating -  I can't handle asymmetry well

I spent more than a thousand on keycaps in the last 6 months, but I'm probably going back to uv-printed wasd keycaps (going to matte coat them), until there is another flexible double shot manufacturer, or even dye-subs (JTKeycaps producing non-standard keycaps maybe)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 09 July 2015, 20:30:03
uv-printed wasd keycaps (going to matte coat them)

^ Yes!

I just love UV-printed keycaps...they have the just molded smell...very nice!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 10 July 2015, 02:09:08
...

The Cherry/OEM profiles are like all-row-4 SA's - each row has a height difference, all of the keycaps are tilted
Comparatively, the row-1-2-3-4 is like a slide, each row connected to one another

...

Well, not exactly.

OEM, DCS and Cherry are angled away from the user due to tradition, with typewriters and old terminal boards made with quite a tilt to them. This creates a "step" between keycap edges. SA is based on a "flat" starting point. They're both contoured, with Row 3 being lowest and angled at the base angle and the extreme top and bottom rows taller and angled more towards and away from the user.

I use my boards close to flat for better ergonomics, so I really like the SA profile. I find the "edges" of tilted profiles requires more effort to type on, can't quite "glide" across the caps like I can on SA.

I really do hope SP put some money / effort in and make the Row 4 Shift molds, but like Matt3o says, I don't think they will without a big push from the community.

Now that I've seen some pics of 7bit's Round 5 Honeywell caps I'm disappointed that I didn't join in on that buy. The classic black on whitre and white on red colours look incredible on SA caps. So glad I scrounged enough money together to join in this one in time, though :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:16:58
...

The Cherry/OEM profiles are like all-row-4 SA's - each row has a height difference, all of the keycaps are tilted
Comparatively, the row-1-2-3-4 is like a slide, each row connected to one another

...

Well, not exactly.

OEM, DCS and Cherry are angled away from the user due to tradition, with typewriters and old terminal boards made with quite a tilt to them. This creates a "step" between keycap edges. SA is based on a "flat" starting point. They're both contoured, with Row 3 being lowest and angled at the base angle and the extreme top and bottom rows taller and angled more towards and away from the user.

I use my boards close to flat for better ergonomics, so I really like the SA profile. I find the "edges" of tilted profiles requires more effort to type on, can't quite "glide" across the caps like I can on SA.

I really do hope SP put some money / effort in and make the Row 4 Shift molds, but like Matt3o says, I don't think they will without a big push from the community.

Now that I've seen some pics of 7bit's Round 5 Honeywell caps I'm disappointed that I didn't join in on that buy. The classic black on whitre and white on red colours look incredible on SA caps. So glad I scrounged enough money together to join in this one in time, though :)

I'm also very envious of the Round5

I agree with you for the most part about the sculpture, yet the R4 bottom row is pretty limiting, if you don't angle the keyboard, the thumb might get stressed, if you angle the keyboard, the row1 could become too extreme
I guess it could work if you keep the keyboard flat and close to yourself while typing, for my usage, the keyboard stays away from me, as I take physical notes too, so it won't work
(As I'm using 60%'s, unless I build custom spacers, it's either fully flat or constant-angled for me, I don't think fully flat could work, so I'm currently planing on angled)

I guess only experience will tell how things will work out, I still haven't built a keyboard for Hack'd by Geeks either, maybe when I do things will become clearer (Hack'd is simpler compared to Retro, the R3 shifts blend pretty well with the R3 bottom row)

To top these dilemmas off, the R3 shift is just an extreme nuisance, I was going to buy additional R3 1.75u + R3 1u custom keys to at least achieve some symmetry on the right side, but that didn't work out
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 11 July 2015, 16:21:28
I just realised I can make things like these happen: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/aef2c333a0994d8c23cc888da84ba617 (this is possible with SA Retro, the LShift is 2u and R4)

Never considered moving the modifiers before, but considering keycap availability, it's much simpler than seeking the perfect keycaps

The above layout only requires one pcb bypass with the pcbs I have - I'm still not sure about the details tho, having the arrow keys further closer to the middle might prove confusing

Edit: or this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/34308aa5ea9071ed5669a8094856bbba - no point in keeping the shift stabilised

----------

Further ideas:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/a8171acd18f876534bdee36572cffcc2

Simplified, isolated the arrows, dropped the right shift (I only use it with Vim, or when my left hand is full): http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/731936cc7250df5d3a2397768015ec17

The last one might be my optimal layout, as my only problem with 60%'s is the occasional enter+arrows confusion + mis-clicks, isolating the arrows solves that issue
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 14 July 2015, 22:22:14
I know the recent Granite run was a big undertaking by SP, and Massdrop missed their original target ship date by over 2 weeks. Are we still expecting SA Retro to ship in the next few weeks, or will the delay be passed on? Or was the delay all on Massdrop?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Tue, 14 July 2015, 23:55:34
I know the recent Granite run was a big undertaking by SP, and Massdrop missed their original target ship date by over 2 weeks. Are we still expecting SA Retro to ship in the next few weeks, or will the delay be passed on? Or was the delay all on Massdrop?

MassDrop has the Granite caps in hand, so SP should be on to other things (hopefully)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 06:23:10
I know the recent Granite run was a big undertaking by SP, and Massdrop missed their original target ship date by over 2 weeks. Are we still expecting SA Retro to ship in the next few weeks, or will the delay be passed on? Or was the delay all on Massdrop?

we havent been told of any delay, it should be shipping to us the very end of this month
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 15 July 2015, 06:45:30
We're probably missing some updates from the times geekhack went down, the gray color changed for example

It would be great to know what additional keycaps are available but not in the mockups, is the R3 1.75 Control the only one?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sat, 18 July 2015, 08:11:24
2 weeks to go ..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 18 July 2015, 10:42:36
We're probably missing some updates from the times geekhack went down, the gray color changed for example

It would be great to know what additional keycaps are available but not in the mockups, is the R3 1.75 Control the only one?

as we promised all the missing keys were added :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Wed, 22 July 2015, 07:53:57
All this talk about hyperfuse and triumph adler and this thread is dead silent.

What's the news matt3o?!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 22 July 2015, 13:15:05
Bah, I only just now realized that the only row 1 brown escape key is in the alternate functions which I didn't order. Any other possibility of getting one or anyone willing to sell one they won't be using? I'm sure I can live with a row 2 brown or one of the colored ones if not.


Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 22 July 2015, 13:22:43
Bah, I only just now realized that the only row 1 brown escape key is in the alternate functions which I didn't order. Any other possibility of getting one or anyone willing to sell one they won't be using? I'm sure I can live with a row 2 brown or one of the colored ones if not.

You can't live with a row 2 brown let me tell you that :) (at least I never could) (at least not on an 60% or 75% or something similar)

The difference is huge
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 22 July 2015, 15:46:47
This is my first set of SA so I'm not familiar with how the different profiles line up. Oh well, if I can't find one I'm sure the colored ones will look great. If not I can use a blank.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 22 July 2015, 15:55:38
This is my first set of SA so I'm not familiar with how the different profiles line up. Oh well, if I can't find one I'm sure the colored ones will look great. If not I can use a blank.

If it's that severe, I'm sure someone would be willing to sell his/hers, I also think there could be some extras at that point, based on what I gathered from conversations
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:17:55
Bah, I only just now realized that the only row 1 brown escape key is in the alternate functions which I didn't order. Any other possibility of getting one or anyone willing to sell one they won't be using? I'm sure I can live with a row 2 brown or one of the colored ones if not.

You can have mine!

I got the Alternate Functions for the yellow functions and gray nav/control clusters.

Which sets did you buy? I'd love to nab something in burgundy for an accent (True Retro here) or a blank.

Very badly would like a R3 control if anyone is feeling super generous, I'll have plenty of extras from the Lime and Alt Funcs to trade.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:22:14
No, it's definitely not important. I was thinking of doing a 60% board all brown just because it feels right but it's not a big deal. I'm good with with the green one if I can't pick up any extras.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:30:28
Bah, I only just now realized that the only row 1 brown escape key is in the alternate functions which I didn't order. Any other possibility of getting one or anyone willing to sell one they won't be using? I'm sure I can live with a row 2 brown or one of the colored ones if not.

You can have mine!

I got the Alternate Functions for the yellow functions and gray nav/control clusters.

Which sets did you buy? I'd love to nab something in burgundy for an accent (True Retro here) or a blank.

Very badly would like a R3 control if anyone is feeling super generous, I'll have plenty of extras from the Lime and Alt Funcs to trade.

Thanks for the offer! I didn't pick up any burgundy, unfortunately. Is the R3 control stepped or is there a centered one I'm not seeing? I don't have any use for the stepped one and I don't think I'd use a centered one. Will probably be using backspace from colemak and the regular shift lock on another board.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:50:09

Thanks for the offer! I didn't pick up any burgundy, unfortunately. Is the R3 control stepped or is there a centered one I'm not seeing? I don't have any use for the stepped one and I don't think I'd use a centered one. Will probably be using backspace from colemak and the regular shift lock on another board.


Think the only one is stepped. Brown esc for that would be awesome  :D

I'm also looking for the R4 1.25u shift lock, is there anything else you'd like?


Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:52:19

Thanks for the offer! I didn't pick up any burgundy, unfortunately. Is the R3 control stepped or is there a centered one I'm not seeing? I don't have any use for the stepped one and I don't think I'd use a centered one. Will probably be using backspace from colemak and the regular shift lock on another board.


Think the only one is stepped. Brown esc for that would be awesome  :D

I'm also looking for the R4 1.25u shift lock, is there anything else you'd like?

There is a R3 1.75 Control that's not in the sketches
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:55:03

Thanks for the offer! I didn't pick up any burgundy, unfortunately. Is the R3 control stepped or is there a centered one I'm not seeing? I don't have any use for the stepped one and I don't think I'd use a centered one. Will probably be using backspace from colemak and the regular shift lock on another board.


Think the only one is stepped. Brown esc for that would be awesome  :D

I'm also looking for the R4 1.25u shift lock, is there anything else you'd like?

There is a R3 1.75 Control that's not in the sketches

Thanks, then I don't really need the stepped one

Still want the shift lock, though
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 22 July 2015, 17:15:04

Thanks, then I don't really need the stepped one

Still want the shift lock, though

I won't be using mine at all so I'm good with trading for the esc if that works for you.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 22 July 2015, 18:14:41

Thanks, then I don't really need the stepped one

Still want the shift lock, though

I won't be using mine at all so I'm good with trading for the esc if that works for you.

Yep, works for me.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 23 July 2015, 11:44:00
I had 2 orders, one big one small, went with small, manually upgraded with paypal to the big one later on, however, on ctrlalt.io the small one is paid and the big one is unpaid

I'm afraid, when this set launches, I might receive the small order, import it, realise the issue, cry a bit, contact bunny, get the missing sets, re-import it, cry a bit more (this time joy)

I would like to make sure I got everything I ordered in the first shipment tho, is anyone else in a similar situation? (contacted bunny a while ago, contacted ctrlalt more recently, but no replies)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Thu, 23 July 2015, 13:03:24
just email him again, he probably did not spot it (+ he might be busy moving stuff for the new house)

i got 3 orders in ctrlalt + 1 additional order via paypal

.. just hope i get them all together without much hicups
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 24 July 2015, 03:52:32
I'm pretty sure everything's fine with your order, anyway send him a PM, just in case.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 July 2015, 05:26:56
I had 2 orders, one big one small, went with small, manually upgraded with paypal to the big one later on, however, on ctrlalt.io the small one is paid and the big one is unpaid

I'm afraid, when this set launches, I might receive the small order, import it, realise the issue, cry a bit, contact bunny, get the missing sets, re-import it, cry a bit more (this time joy)

I would like to make sure I got everything I ordered in the first shipment tho, is anyone else in a similar situation? (contacted bunny a while ago, contacted ctrlalt more recently, but no replies)

i got your email, i have the changes noted and itll be sorted on the site as soon as i get to my new place
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 24 July 2015, 05:54:45
I had 2 orders, one big one small, went with small, manually upgraded with paypal to the big one later on, however, on ctrlalt.io the small one is paid and the big one is unpaid

I'm afraid, when this set launches, I might receive the small order, import it, realise the issue, cry a bit, contact bunny, get the missing sets, re-import it, cry a bit more (this time joy)

I would like to make sure I got everything I ordered in the first shipment tho, is anyone else in a similar situation? (contacted bunny a while ago, contacted ctrlalt more recently, but no replies)

i got your email, i have the changes noted and itll be sorted on the site as soon as i get to my new place

Thanks a lot for the update

In the meantime, I finally built a keyboard with the hack'd by geeks SA's - it's certainly a unique typing experience - a bit tiring after using DSA's for so long - probably because of the added height (I might also be tired as I've been working on the keyboard for 36 hours non-stop :)

I'm planning on using the True Retro recreationally with MX Green's - got some aluminium feet from tex as I'm still not sure whether I like sculptured SA's tilted or not
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Fri, 24 July 2015, 12:25:28
This could only be a week away?!

I shiver with antici...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Fri, 24 July 2015, 12:26:10
pation.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Fri, 24 July 2015, 13:14:11
This could only be a week away?!

I shiver with antici...

You didn't even give anyone a chance ..

"SAY IT SAY IT SAY IT"
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Fri, 24 July 2015, 16:28:58
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 24 July 2015, 16:33:47
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".

Reminded me of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Sat, 25 July 2015, 00:12:02
(I might also be tired as I've been working on the keyboard for 36 hours non-stop :)

Holy... go to sleep, man!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 25 July 2015, 06:38:54
we should have pics shortly, as soon as i get them ill post them here
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 25 July 2015, 06:41:33
we should have pics shortly, as soon as i get them ill post them here

such excite
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sat, 25 July 2015, 07:06:37
we should have pics shortly, as soon as i get them ill post them here

awesome cant wait!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Sat, 25 July 2015, 11:50:02
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".

Reminded me of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'

I'm glad someone got this.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/fV7xZPk6aeiUU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: retrochick on Sat, 25 July 2015, 20:24:48
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".

Reminded me of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'

I'm glad someone got this.


Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/fV7xZPk6aeiUU/giphy.gif)

Seriously one of my favorite musicals of all time. Perhaps ever. Tim Curry  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 26 July 2015, 14:00:42
I really wonder how these are going to turn out, I'm really overwhelmed by keyboard and keycap stuff lately, I guess I'm either going to retire with these or without these and only GMK's

The Hack'd By Geeks set provided a very unique typing experience, they were 10 times better than GMK's with costar stabs (costars have issues with GMK keycaps), but the profile and height was pretty challenging, ergonomically speaking, SA's are not too optimal for laidback typing, one has to lift his/her arms a bit to type :)

(The Shifts are another challenging aspect, I guess I might attempt such a layout if I decide to keep the Retro set: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d77777fbbed6a87b8690b53cacedee39)

I guess the photos are going to cast the decisive vote for me
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 28 July 2015, 08:25:08
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".

Reminded me of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'

I'm glad someone got this.

Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/fV7xZPk6aeiUU/giphy.gif)

:high-five:

I am guessing not many millennials will get any reference that is further back than Spice World, mwahahahaha...jk

All joking aside, I am really looking forward to typing on fully sculpted SA (except for Shifts, :) ).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Tue, 28 July 2015, 11:17:08
Sorry, I was shivering so hard that I hit "Post".

Reminded me of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'

I'm glad someone got this.

Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/fV7xZPk6aeiUU/giphy.gif)

:high-five:

I am guessing not many millennials will get any reference that is further back than Spice World, mwahahahaha...jk

All joking aside, I am really looking forward to typing on fully sculpted SA (except for Shifts, :) ).

I'd be sad if i knew the weekly show I used to go to no longer was a thing. Bored on a Saturday night? Go yell at the screen and eat some Denny's after!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 28 July 2015, 16:33:44
Unfortunately I've been informed that production has been pushed by at least one week.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 28 July 2015, 16:38:52
Unfortunately I've been informed that production has been pushed by at least one week.
Really???

 :'(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Tue, 28 July 2015, 20:10:52
Well, I'm not expecting them until September I have to say :D  I still need a keyboard to go with my set too. Mahaha. :x 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 28 July 2015, 20:21:51
Well, I'm not expecting them until September I have to say :D  I still need a keyboard to go with my set too. Mahaha. :x

+1

I need a special layout myself to utilise the 2u R4 shift, but I depleted all my energy lately, so I will either sell these at this point, or store them to be used in the future

Storing seems more logical, the True Retro is a keeper, I really wonder how True Retro is going to turn out

By the way, after trial, the only issue with the shifts is aesthetical and psychological, yet since I'm obsessed with proper sculpture, using the 2u Shift is the only option at this point (on the other hand, on a TKL, full-size, standard 60%, symmetry is not really an issue, so there is no need to worry - yet for non-standard layouts, one shift becomes 2.25R3 while the other one is 1.75R4 - it's hard to handle for me)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Fri, 31 July 2015, 20:27:39
This is still up for sale.  I'll take a hit on the 4x blank sets and space bars.  You only pay for the rest($201) + Paypal fees. 

Putting my order up for sale at cost ($231) + paypal fees. I'd like a buyer from the US since that's the shipping method that is payed for.

Set includes:
Retro Burgundy
Pro Burgundy mods
Nunpad Burgundy
Alternate functions
4x blanks sets
Big spacebars


(http://i.imgur.com/bzmfXR9.png)


Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:06:05
Only thing that would possibly cause me to come off my set would be a full set of Nuclear Data... :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:59:14
filphil, you should even be able to sell these with profit once the sets ship, likely in 2-3 weeks, so I suggest you endure :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:02:32
filphil, you should even be able to sell these with profit once the sets ship, likely in 2-3 weeks, so I suggest you endure :)

I could probably make a profit but that really wasn't my intention to do so.  I'll keep it up but if it doesn't sell then I'll just have to ask for cost + paypal + shipping after the set reaches me. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 01 August 2015, 00:31:13
I know it isn't, but it's generally hard to sell unlaunched keycaps, but the moment they launch, you can even sell them before they reach you :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:11:54
as soon as people start seeing pictures you won't have troubles selling. hold tight, we are almost there.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:15:07
I know it isn't, but it's generally hard to sell unlaunched keycaps, but the moment they launch, you can even sell them before they reach you :)

as soon as people start seeing pictures you won't have troubles selling. hold tight, we are almost there.

Ya'll are so supportive. If I could buy you your preferred beverage I would.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:22:51
I know it isn't, but it's generally hard to sell unlaunched keycaps, but the moment they launch, you can even sell them before they reach you :)

as soon as people start seeing pictures you won't have troubles selling. hold tight, we are almost there.

Ya'll are so supportive. If I could buy you your preferred beverage I would.

pm'd. My regret for not being in on this GB has haunted me for weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: filphil on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:23:40
I know it isn't, but it's generally hard to sell unlaunched keycaps, but the moment they launch, you can even sell them before they reach you :)

as soon as people start seeing pictures you won't have troubles selling. hold tight, we are almost there.

Ya'll are so supportive. If I could buy you your preferred beverage I would.

pm'd. My regret for not being in on this GB has haunted me for weeks.

I'm here for ya buddy. 

(http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/I-know-that-feel-bro-blank.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:26:11
Well mine is water so you got off easy :)

By the way, I have a deep appreciation of SA's now that I dealt with GMK+costar-stabs, cherry profile really needs cherry stabs (solved the issues, but it took hours)

SA is probably the most costar-friendly keycap set out there, 0 issues

On the other hand, this R3 shift ruins everything ... such awesome colorway, such awesome profile, and one R3 2.25 Shift to ruin it all ...

(standard layout is not that bad with the 2.75 R3, however, non-standard layouts are really messed, as the 1.75 Shift is R4)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kennardsmith on Sat, 01 August 2015, 01:42:35

I'm here for ya buddy. 

Show Image
(http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/I-know-that-feel-bro-blank.jpg)


me rn: (http://media.giphy.com/media/2WuHHWbGt3fY4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 02 August 2015, 02:21:27
as soon as people start seeing pictures you won't have troubles selling.

So true. The regret doesn't truly set in until you see the pics.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: durainello on Mon, 03 August 2015, 06:10:41
Still available.
I have a Burgundy set to let go at $104.20 (inclusive of 3.9%+$0.30 PP).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: braidn on Mon, 03 August 2015, 07:25:34
There were no blank homies provided as extra in any kit? We're any of these made for the folks who went blanks plus the ergodox kit? Just wondering if the availability exists. If not I picked up some 1942 blank homies
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 03 August 2015, 07:32:32
There were no blank homies provided as extra in any kit? We're any of these made for the folks who went blanks plus the ergodox kit? Just wondering if the availability exists. If not I picked up some 1942 blank homies

SP said they were going to make blanks in all sizes with all the keysets they produce, available in their keyshop, but some say it only includes keysets from their gb-system, so with probably 30% chance you might be able to find the blank homing keys you are seeking from their keyshop

It might be a good idea to email them to ask about it
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 06 August 2015, 14:06:04
My extra keycaps seem to have shipped, so I'm guessing we should see some production photos of the actual set soon
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 06 August 2015, 14:47:39
My extra keycaps seem to have shipped, so I'm guessing we should see some production photos of the actual set soon



awwwww yisssss  (http://imgur.com/scflf3v.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 09 August 2015, 21:45:35
your extra caps? you mean your independet group buy ? or actualy parts of THIS SET ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 09 August 2015, 22:12:27
your extra caps? you mean your independet group buy ? or actualy parts of THIS SET ?

I ordered some additional keycaps for a layout that isn't supported by this GB, since I ordered it before the Retro SA order, they were manufactured before

Since they shipped, I'm assuming production of these keycaps are underway too, but the launch was obviously not as imminent as I thought it would be :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: aeonblack on Mon, 10 August 2015, 12:16:57
I kind of hope it doesn't ship too soon...I need to build a new board to house it first hahah.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 10 August 2015, 12:41:00
any updates from the production ?

i hope there are not to many corrections needet after the stuff finaly ships :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 11 August 2015, 09:09:20
I should know something later today
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:09:52
Next wednesday!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:10:06
\o/
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:21:01
Next wednesday!

Edit: As in? Shipped to those awaiting orders, or simply the US-based proxy?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 11 August 2015, 16:50:45
thank you for the update
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:14:32
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:54:10
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.

great news
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 12 August 2015, 07:23:21
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.

Fantastic! Can't wait! Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:12:03
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.


*does a lil jig*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:38:27
bunny do you know if you get the european orders first .. or is all send from the us ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:03:08
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:09:27
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.

I believe the question is; will pkircher recieve a package from the US (which will have custom charges) or will international orders be sent to CtrlAlt (UK) in bulk, then sent locally inside of the UK (no custom charges).

I'm in Canada so I get busted by customs no matter what :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:12:17
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.

I believe the question is; will pkircher recieve a package from the US (which will have custom charges) or will international orders be sent to CtrlAlt (UK) in bulk, then sent locally inside of the UK (no custom charges).

I'm in Canada so I get busted by customs no matter what :D

Oh...
Gotcha.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:23:04
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.

I believe the question is; will pkircher recieve a package from the US (which will have custom charges) or will international orders be sent to CtrlAlt (UK) in bulk, then sent locally inside of the UK (no custom charges).

I'm in Canada so I get busted by customs no matter what :D

When I selected the incorrect shipping type on my initial order bunny indicated that he'd be the one shipping the UK orders.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:55:52
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.

oh boy oh boy oh boy  :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: fliptrik on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:12:50
the keycaps will be ready next wednesday and shipped to the proxy. it will take few more days to be distributed to all.

Hyyyyypppeeeee
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:23:19
Hmm. Seems a little silly to ship from the US to Italy/UK to ship back to the US. How about folks like me who are not across an ocean from Signature Plastics?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:31:25
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.

I believe the question is; will pkircher recieve a package from the US (which will have custom charges) or will international orders be sent to CtrlAlt (UK) in bulk, then sent locally inside of the UK (no custom charges).

I'm in Canada so I get busted by customs no matter what :D

all orders will be sent from the US

customs will be marked as a $20 gift

if anyone is in the UK, and would like their set sent to me with mine, and for me to then ship their set, that isnt a problem
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:36:47
or is all send from the us ?

I think European orders are first since matt3o is in Italy and bunny is in the UK. Could be wrong.

I believe the question is; will pkircher recieve a package from the US (which will have custom charges) or will international orders be sent to CtrlAlt (UK) in bulk, then sent locally inside of the UK (no custom charges).

I'm in Canada so I get busted by customs no matter what :D

all orders will be sent from the US

customs will be marked as a $20 gift

if anyone is in the UK, and would like their set sent to me with mine, and for me to then ship their set, that isnt a problem

Ah awesome news, cheers bunny. This or hyperfuse/HbGs will be my first deleivery from CtrlAlt so I wasn't sure aobut the details  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Wed, 12 August 2015, 17:11:42
Hmm. Seems a little silly to ship from the US to Italy/UK to ship back to the US. How about folks like me who are not across an ocean from Signature Plastics?

I had the same question
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 12 August 2015, 19:27:17
all orders will be sent from the US

customs will be marked as a $20 gift

There's a reason why Bunnies are so loved throughout the world  8) .

Even though the current PM here in Convict Town hasn't introduced his Overseas Shipment taxes yet (next Election if he wins), good to know that in the future we have a saviour here - in the form of BunnyLake  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 19:28:51
all orders will be sent from the US

customs will be marked as a $20 gift

There's a reason why Bunnies are so loved throughout the world  8) .

Even though the current PM here in Convict Town hasn't introduced his Overseas Shipment taxes yet (next Election if he wins), good to know that in the future we have a saviour here - in the form of BunnyLake  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: .

great to have you back man
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Bloo on Mon, 17 August 2015, 11:45:52
I would love to get a hold of an Alternate Functions pack if anyone ends up having one to spare.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 17 August 2015, 12:06:32
I would love to get a hold of an Alternate Functions pack if anyone ends up having one to spare.

i have an extra, just pm me

also

someone i spoke to via pm about ordering a set i had spare, however for the life of me i cant find the pm, if you read this, im not ignoring you, just shoot me another pm, sorry
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 18 August 2015, 02:51:15
I made the switch to GMK's, but really tempted to attempt SA's again with this layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4

extremely tempted (otherwise I was building a keyboard with a similar layout for GMK's)

when do we get to see some photos? :)

(I'm receiving my combined package thursday, if nothing goes wrong, don't know what I received from SP yet, Shipito usually sends consolidation photos, this time they skipped the photos for some reason, so I have no idea)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:42:58
I made the switch to GMK's, but really tempted to attempt SA's again with this layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4)

extremely tempted (otherwise I was building a keyboard with a similar layout for GMK's)

Get BOTH profiles, the Original GMK Cherry beauties and the SA Retro Profile.

That's what I've been doing for some time now, never regretted it for one second because both profiles have found room in a variety of keyboards with such ease  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:59:06
I made the switch to GMK's, but really tempted to attempt SA's again with this layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4)

extremely tempted (otherwise I was building a keyboard with a similar layout for GMK's)

Get BOTH profiles, the Original GMK Cherry beauties and the SA Retro Profile.

That's what I've been doing for some time now, never regretted it for one second because both profiles have found room in a variety of keyboards with such ease  8) .

I'm with Elrick. I have heavily invested in both profiles, feel no need to choose one or the other. I love all my children equally.

Plus, SA Retro is a masterpiece no matter what the profile. Be at peace and bask in the glow of Matt3o's creative genius.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:18:05
Plus, SA Retro is a masterpiece no matter what the profile. Be at peace and bask in the glow of Matt3o's creative genius.

A fanboy greater than myself when it comes to Matt3o's creations.... ONYA  :thumb: .

YES we exist, the ones that approve of his unique designs.  We shall always be here waiting for the NEXT visionary key-set, to furnish our growing collection of keyboards  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:40:38
Plus, SA Retro is a masterpiece no matter what the profile. Be at peace and bask in the glow of Matt3o's creative genius.

A fanboy greater than myself when it comes to Matt3o's creations.... ONYA  :thumb: .

YES we exist, the ones that approve of his unique designs.  We shall always be here waiting for the NEXT visionary key-set, to furnish our growing collection of keyboards  8) .

Hear, hear!

(7 keyboards for me. 8 when I buy a Realforce with Matt3o's upcoming design!)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:40:56
Can't wait for this set! My only regret is not adding blanks and some space bars to my order. Looking back it seems kind of silly to not get them since they were not very much. Oh well, it will be a great set regardless!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:10:39
Even though I didn't purchase, I am eager to see the results, and I'm sure I will probably kick myself.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:11:08
Compared to you guys, I'm extremely confused

But I'm guessing we are looking for different things too, I'm looking for "the one", one keyboard, one keyset; to lock the muscle memories with
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:17:03
Compared to you guys, I'm extremely confused

But I'm guessing we are looking for different things too, I'm looking for "the one", one keyboard, one keyset; to lock the muscle memories with

I gave up of finding "the one". It does not exist, there are way too many great sets and keyboards out there to limit my self to just one.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:22:17
"The One" is whatever I wake up in the morning feeling like using. Today's a Cherry MX Clear day. Yesterday was a Topre 55g day.

However, with so many keyboards, I've found it immensely helpful to pick on one standard layout. TKL is my favorite here.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:29:35
"The One" is whatever I wake up in the morning feeling like using. Today's a Cherry MX Clear day. Yesterday was a Topre 55g day.

However, with so many keyboards, I've found it immensely helpful to pick on one standard layout. TKL is my favorite here.

It's interesting to learn

I've recently built 2 keyboards with GMK's, same layout, one with lubed clears, the other one with modded green's, even the switch type difference is enough to throw me off, so at least I was able to eliminate clicky switches for good

The scoops is on my nerves tho, that's why I like SP keysets/GB's, as they almost always include flat F/J's for brute typists like me
But only the SA's are actually of good quality, DSA's are ok too, however their DCS's are ...

I'm sure this set will swoop everyone off their feet too, worst case scenario (best case for me) - I can post pictures thursday of the extra keys I got
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 18 August 2015, 14:46:41
I'm such a tease

(http://i.imgur.com/RlxQhUh.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 18 August 2015, 15:00:25
:drool:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 18 August 2015, 15:13:55
a lovely darkness
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: spacemonkey001 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 17:48:50
Hi,

I'd love to get a Retro Burgundy and a Dvorak/Colemak set if anyone has extra to sell. Also I apologize if this isn't the place to ask for extras but I'm pretty new here.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 18 August 2015, 18:11:10
Ahhhh I want to see the PETSCII so bad  :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:04:28
Ahhhh I want to see the PETSCII so bad  :p

yeah i cant wait to see how that comes out
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:22:46
I'm such a tease

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RlxQhUh.jpg)


I am so excited! Looks amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:54:40
I'm such a tease

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RlxQhUh.jpg)


I am so excited! Looks amazing!

Too right.

The anxiousness when waiting for his first design to roll out of SP's molds is always the best time.

Like seeing your new partner's lips around your ______, the sight and feeling is beyond any reasonable description.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 18 August 2015, 20:15:28
Was that really necessary?  :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 18 August 2015, 21:04:41
I'm such a tease

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RlxQhUh.jpg)


I am so excited! Looks amazing!

Too right.

The anxiousness when waiting for his first design to roll out of SP's molds is always the best time.

Like seeing your new partner's lips around your ______, the sight and feeling is beyond any reasonable description.

Okay, who let TP4 take over Elrick's keyboard...hehe
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 19 August 2015, 00:29:42
I love that orange!

(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 19 August 2015, 01:34:43
Nice! Excited to dress up my minila with these goodness!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 19 August 2015, 03:03:36
I made the switch to GMK's, but really tempted to attempt SA's again with this layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/95eb37bd05f9c2bcb0e4

...

My suggestion: Split the spacebar and get your thumbs in on the action instead of your pinkies:

Code: [Select]
[{c:"#121210",t:"#fcfcfc",a:7},"Esc",{c:"#525249",t:"#fffafa",a:5},"!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{c:"#1c1c1a",t:"#ededed",a:7,w:2},"← Backspace"],
[{c:"#0f0f0e",t:"#fafafa",f:9,w:1.5},"↹",{c:"#525249",f:3},"Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P",{a:5},"{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\"],
[{c:"#141413",t:"#fcfcfc",a:7,w:1.75},"Control",{c:"#525249",t:"#fff7f7"},"A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",{a:5},":\n;","\"\n'",{c:"#1c1c1a",t:"#dbdbdb",a:7,w:2.25},"↵ Enter"],
[{x:0.25,c:"#141413",t:"#fcfcfc",w:2},"⇧ Shift",{c:"#525249"},"Z","X","C","V","B","N","M",{a:5},"<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{x:0.75,c:"#1c1c1a",a:7},"↑"],
[{x:0.25,c:"#141413",w:1.5},"Alt",{x:2,t:"#e0d1d1",w:1.5},"",{c:"#525249",w:1.5},"Fn",{w:1.5},"",{c:"#171714",w:1.5},"",{x:2.25,c:"#1c1c1a",t:"#fcfcfc"},"←","↓","→"]

Blank Row 2 1.5x caps on the bottom row for the thumbs to feel at home on. I put "Fn" on the key I would assign to my Fn layer, but it depends which thumb you "space" with. You could also map backspace, del, tab or whatever you find convenient there. It means you may have to get an ErgoDox kit to support the layout, but I think it's worth it...

So hyped to see the samples of this set! Ah, yisssss!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 19 August 2015, 03:05:40
This is looking good Matt3o !
Excited to try SA.

For for doing Inter layouts Matt3o !
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:23:57
This is looking good Matt3o !
Excited to try SA.

Just like the man himself  8) . 

When these start coming out of SP into CTRL/ALT's premises, you'll see some really HOT key-set combo's designed to drive every keyboard nerd into a frenzy  :o .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:14:56
id like to see some green and red as well and of course currious about petscii
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:02:35
btw .. if anyone is currious how SA fits on a kinesis advantage .. i got a round 5 on it ..

(http://puu.sh/jGTXP/a5e072f64a.png)
(http://puu.sh/jGTYg/4f333f4b50.png)
(http://puu.sh/jGTXf/d836af92f2.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:06:37

Wow. That looks great! I thought I was going to give my orange keys away. Not any more...


I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:26:15
soon
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:32:51
I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)


*grunts*

mmmHMM!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KeyZero on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:45:16
Any luck if these will be on sale again soon?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:51:20
DAMNNNN those oranges! Kinda wish I got them... even though the plan for my Retro is a 60%. That wallet hack regret :(

Any luck if these will be on sale again soon?

I guess all things are possible, buy somewhere Matt3o said it was probably a one time thing.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:58:38
I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)


I'm still dying to see the PETSCII keys...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:28:04
I am down for the looks of it, but I can't wait to type on them...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: micr0n on Wed, 19 August 2015, 11:22:46
I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)


Any body else looked at the double shot on these caps.  These are going to be some nice solid and hefty keys to use. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 19 August 2015, 11:36:27
Those oranges as modifiers + those greys as alphas would make an awesome combination :)

They're both extremely impressive, their glares are just beautiful, so pale
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 19 August 2015, 11:54:52
I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)


Any body else looked at the double shot on these caps.  These are going to be some nice solid and hefty keys to use. 

Yup... Same as all SA profile caps (except the thinner PBT 1x ones). Solid and lovely  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 19 August 2015, 13:04:07
Yup... Same as all SA profile caps (except the thinner PBT 1x ones). Solid and lovely  :thumb:

SP runs SA in PBT? #acronymsoup

I was pretty sure I'd read that the equipment couldn't handle it for some reason.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:45:28
Yup... Same as all SA profile caps (except the thinner PBT 1x ones). Solid and lovely  :thumb:

SP runs SA in PBT? #acronymsoup

I was pretty sure I'd read that the equipment couldn't handle it for some reason.

Melissa at SP told me officially that they do not make PBT SA caps
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:32:33
Why can't I imagine these into my mail box
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 19 August 2015, 19:36:42
I love that orange!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/gIrvTST.jpg)


Any body else looked at the double shot on these caps.  These are going to be some nice solid and hefty keys to use. 
Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)


The Glory of the famous SA Profile, brought to you by Signature Plastics  :thumb: .

American Made Muscle in Key-cap Form, don't ever forget that.  Just waiting for the traditional Red, White and Blue Colour-ways to be available at their PMK store front  ;D .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 19 August 2015, 20:44:50
love how nice and dark the brown looks
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Loligagger on Wed, 19 August 2015, 21:17:10
Have any of the burgundy/green keys to show off yet?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 20 August 2015, 01:05:10
Yup... Same as all SA profile caps (except the thinner PBT 1x ones). Solid and lovely  :thumb:

SP runs SA in PBT? #acronymsoup

I was pretty sure I'd read that the equipment couldn't handle it for some reason.

Melissa at SP told me officially that they do not make PBT SA caps

They have made blank 1x caps in PBT and they sell them on the store (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/blank-key-packs/sa-blank-key-packs) in sets of 10, but they don't make them available for full keycap sets. One reason is that they don't make other sizes in PBT (although I do believe they can also make 1.5x), so can't do a full set. They may also have cooling problems when they try to run them in bulk, in which case the reject rate would be too high to make it feasible, even on sets with ABS mods and only alphas in PBT.

I know at least WAN and WAS are light coloured PBT: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Signature_Plastics_PBT_colours

BFA is a sort of baby blue polycarbonate.
TL = unknown to me at this time, maybe a brown poly?
VBZ = green poly.
YBS = yellow poly.

The polycarbonate colours on these SA caps are "solid", not translucent like the DCS caps they sell.

The second from the left in this pic is an SA PBT cap, so they do certainly exist:
(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb385/unoab/keyboards/keycaps/DSC04876.jpg)

They're thinner than the ABS ones, though, as you can see in the pic. Could be for business reasons that Melissa simply said they can't do them.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 20 August 2015, 01:41:43
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 20 August 2015, 02:20:46
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)

Lol! They can't deny making the 1x items they sell on PMK store, though ;)

Could be they were made by Comptec, before they became SP. I suspect they had a lot more molds in use back in the day, now perhaps warehoused, sold or lost.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 20 August 2015, 06:01:28
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Optimal layout completed! (JK :)

SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:47:56
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:03:58
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)

Lol! They can't deny making the 1x items they sell on PMK store, though ;)

Could be they were made by Comptec, before they became SP. I suspect they had a lot more molds in use back in the day, now perhaps warehoused, sold or lost.

SP refuses to do doubleshot PBT.  I guess they haven't perfected it yet (or they're just not interested).  Since every SA cap set (so far) seems to have doubleshot legends I wonder if that's not the biggest factor for a lack of SA sets in PBT -- if they can't do the legends then they just won't do them.  But I find it really hard to believe they can't inject PBT (blanks) into the same molds they use for ABS.  The wear on the tooling might be higher because of the higher temps required for PBT, but that's hardly an excuse.  It's not that they can't do it, but that they won't.

Edit: I forgot that shrinkage is a bigger factor with PBT, so maybe they really do require new molds/tooling.  Now I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:08:59
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:18:27
I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

Totally off-topic at this point, but I keep flipping back and forth on Carbon, currently running on MassDrop. I really like the set, I really liked it when the initial IC hit. But it would be my fifth SA set, fourth sculpted. Do I really need that many? Plus, I can't bear the thought of skipping the numpad, Dvorak, and novelty child deals for any set I buy, even though I'll likely just stick it on my Pok3r. And that generally puts me over the $150 mark.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 20 August 2015, 09:22:37
I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

Totally off-topic at this point, but I keep flipping back and forth on Carbon, currently running on MassDrop. I really like the set, I really liked it when the initial IC hit. But it would be my fifth SA set, fourth sculpted. Do I really need that many? Plus, I can't bear the thought of skipping the numpad, Dvorak, and novelty child deals for any set I buy, even though I'll likely just stick it on my Pok3r. And that generally puts me over the $150 mark.

Your mind and wallet say no.
Your heart and Elrick say YES!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:32:52
I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

Totally off-topic at this point, but I keep flipping back and forth on Carbon, currently running on MassDrop. I really like the set, I really liked it when the initial IC hit. But it would be my fifth SA set, fourth sculpted. Do I really need that many? Plus, I can't bear the thought of skipping the numpad, Dvorak, and novelty child deals for any set I buy, even though I'll likely just stick it on my Pok3r. And that generally puts me over the $150 mark.

Most (maybe all?) SA sets have appreciated in value. PuLSE sets get snatched up immediately @ $200. If you end up with too many, sell your least favorite(s).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:33:31
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

I'm in the same boat, two great SA sets on the way and now Carbon comes up and I have to decide if I need even more SA in my life. I only have two MX boards! I hear once you start purchasing boards specifically for extra sets that's when the real wallet hack kicks in  ;)

Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:40:06
I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

Totally off-topic at this point, but I keep flipping back and forth on Carbon, currently running on MassDrop. I really like the set, I really liked it when the initial IC hit. But it would be my fifth SA set, fourth sculpted. Do I really need that many? Plus, I can't bear the thought of skipping the numpad, Dvorak, and novelty child deals for any set I buy, even though I'll likely just stick it on my Pok3r. And that generally puts me over the $150 mark.

I bought like 6-8 DSA sets, then decided I don't like DSA and the extreme-variation of fonts SP uses, so I sold most of them, mainly to cleanse myself

SA is better, however, it might be a good idea to make sure you really like SA's before investing too much on SA's

On the other hand, just buy them all from MD, you can sell them easily later on
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:17:30

Optimal layout completed! (JK :)

SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's

Those arrows look great! Too rich for me, unfortunately. Wish I would have been able to get them.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:27:02

Optimal layout completed! (JK :)

SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's

Those arrows look great! Too rich for me, unfortunately. Wish I would have been able to get them.

They are huge :)

Due to my lazy typing style and posture, I can't really handle SA's, so I'm going to have to sell all my Retro's at one point, If anyone is interested, let me know, it's (almost all) - (ergodox) - (petscii) + (these extras)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:37:00

Optimal layout completed! (JK :)

SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's

Those arrows look great! Too rich for me, unfortunately. Wish I would have been able to get them.

They are huge :)

Due to my lazy typing style and posture, I can't really handle SA's, so I'm going to have to sell all my Retro's at one point, If anyone is interested, let me know, it's (almost all) - (ergodox) - (petscii) + (these extras)

What's the total for what you have? Can I see the order? Interested in splitting it up at all?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:40:48
Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!
Yeah, the 1976 mockups didn't convince me, but when the photos started coming out, I managed to grab a set from the keyshop during the couple days they were actually in stock. I made my kids give them to me for Father's Day.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:52:41
Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!
Yeah, the 1976 mockups didn't convince me, but when the photos started coming out, I managed to grab a set from the keyshop during the couple days they were actually in stock. I made my kids give them to me for Father's Day.  ;D

Ha! Parenting: you are doing it right  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:51:43
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)

Lol! They can't deny making the 1x items they sell on PMK store, though ;)

Could be they were made by Comptec, before they became SP. I suspect they had a lot more molds in use back in the day, now perhaps warehoused, sold or lost.

SP refuses to do doubleshot PBT.  I guess they haven't perfected it yet (or they're just not interested).  Since every SA cap set (so far) seems to have doubleshot legends I wonder if that's not the biggest factor for a lack of SA sets in PBT -- if they can't do the legends then they just won't do them.  But I find it really hard to believe they can't inject PBT (blanks) into the same molds they use for ABS.  The wear on the tooling might be higher because of the higher temps required for PBT, but that's hardly an excuse.  It's not that they can't do it, but that they won't.

Edit: I forgot that shrinkage is a bigger factor with PBT, so maybe they really do require new molds/tooling.  Now I'm not so sure.

Well, they can and do make 1x and 1.5x SA profile blank PBT keys which can be dyesubbed, but AFAIK they don't have PBT molds for the larger modifiers, so they can't do a FULL set in PBT (and yes, the different shrinkage rate and temperature requires different molds). But I think they could do alphas in dyesub PBT, mods in doubleshot ABS. At least technically. They seem to be reluctant about offering this as an option, though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 20 August 2015, 16:26:48
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)

Lol! They can't deny making the 1x items they sell on PMK store, though ;)

Could be they were made by Comptec, before they became SP. I suspect they had a lot more molds in use back in the day, now perhaps warehoused, sold or lost.

SP refuses to do doubleshot PBT.  I guess they haven't perfected it yet (or they're just not interested).  Since every SA cap set (so far) seems to have doubleshot legends I wonder if that's not the biggest factor for a lack of SA sets in PBT -- if they can't do the legends then they just won't do them.  But I find it really hard to believe they can't inject PBT (blanks) into the same molds they use for ABS.  The wear on the tooling might be higher because of the higher temps required for PBT, but that's hardly an excuse.  It's not that they can't do it, but that they won't.

Edit: I forgot that shrinkage is a bigger factor with PBT, so maybe they really do require new molds/tooling.  Now I'm not so sure.

Well, they can and do make 1x and 1.5x SA profile blank PBT keys which can be dyesubbed, but AFAIK they don't have PBT molds for the larger modifiers, so they can't do a FULL set in PBT (and yes, the different shrinkage rate and temperature requires different molds). But I think they could do alphas in dyesub PBT, mods in doubleshot ABS. At least technically. They seem to be reluctant about offering this as an option, though.

They should probably produce the R4 Shifts before all these :)

I was really on the edge about SA's, the shifts cast the deciding vote for me

Practically they are not much of an issue, but on an obsessive level, it's annoying
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 20 August 2015, 17:19:59
I even have a couple of PBT SA spacebars actually :) but they will deny having made them :)

Lol! They can't deny making the 1x items they sell on PMK store, though ;)

Could be they were made by Comptec, before they became SP. I suspect they had a lot more molds in use back in the day, now perhaps warehoused, sold or lost.

SP refuses to do doubleshot PBT.  I guess they haven't perfected it yet (or they're just not interested).  Since every SA cap set (so far) seems to have doubleshot legends I wonder if that's not the biggest factor for a lack of SA sets in PBT -- if they can't do the legends then they just won't do them.  But I find it really hard to believe they can't inject PBT (blanks) into the same molds they use for ABS.  The wear on the tooling might be higher because of the higher temps required for PBT, but that's hardly an excuse.  It's not that they can't do it, but that they won't.

Edit: I forgot that shrinkage is a bigger factor with PBT, so maybe they really do require new molds/tooling.  Now I'm not so sure.

Well, they can and do make 1x and 1.5x SA profile blank PBT keys which can be dyesubbed, but AFAIK they don't have PBT molds for the larger modifiers, so they can't do a FULL set in PBT (and yes, the different shrinkage rate and temperature requires different molds). But I think they could do alphas in dyesub PBT, mods in doubleshot ABS. At least technically. They seem to be reluctant about offering this as an option, though.

They should probably produce the R4 Shifts before all these :)

I was really on the edge about SA's, the shifts cast the deciding vote for me

Practically they are not much of an issue, but on an obsessive level, it's annoying
Obsessive? You? Is not like you went out and ordered custom-printed keycaps to fit a very specific arrow layout or anything... ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 21 August 2015, 03:04:03
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

I'm in the same boat, two great SA sets on the way and now Carbon comes up and I have to decide if I need even more SA in my life. I only have two MX boards! I hear once you start purchasing boards specifically for extra sets that's when the real wallet hack kicks in  ;)

Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!

Carbon got very expensive for me. I was just going to get a base and novelties, but then I realised my one really custom layout could be filled out using keys from both the Planck and ErgoDox sets... so I added those. Ended up buying Base, Orange Alphas, Planck, ErgoDox, Novelties, Warnings, Forums and some spacebars... Almost also bought the Mod and Flex kits...

Just look at the stats on it... over 400 base kits sold! Impressive: http://www.massdrop.community/

If you're still interested in 1976, it's selling on PMK store again: http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/1976-keycap-set
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Fri, 21 August 2015, 10:15:04
Next wednesday!

So... did this happen? I'm dying to see some photos of PETSCII.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 21 August 2015, 10:26:27
So... did this happen? I'm dying to see some photos of PETSCII.
I am very excited to see how it came out as well.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:06:10
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

I'm in the same boat, two great SA sets on the way and now Carbon comes up and I have to decide if I need even more SA in my life. I only have two MX boards! I hear once you start purchasing boards specifically for extra sets that's when the real wallet hack kicks in  ;)

Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!

Carbon got very expensive for me. I was just going to get a base and novelties, but then I realised my one really custom layout could be filled out using keys from both the Planck and ErgoDox sets... so I added those. Ended up buying Base, Orange Alphas, Planck, ErgoDox, Novelties, Warnings, Forums and some spacebars... Almost also bought the Mod and Flex kits...

Just look at the stats on it... over 400 base kits sold! Impressive: http://www.massdrop.community/

If you're still interested in 1976, it's selling on PMK store again: http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/1976-keycap-set

Just looked base is out of stock
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tangkims on Fri, 21 August 2015, 19:18:05
I regret not participating in this so badly...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 21 August 2015, 19:38:55
I regret not participating in this so badly...

YES the number ONE emotion displayed by those that missed out on a golden opportunity that might never occur again in their life time  8) .

There are other Group Buys running so don't miss out on owning some decent GMK sets or still grabbing some Carbon, before it passes into history.....
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 21 August 2015, 22:12:32
I regret not participating in this so badly...
My only regret is that I didnt buy the burgundy numpad kit...maybe there will be extras???
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tangkims on Fri, 21 August 2015, 23:06:22
If there are extras.... PM me please!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Sat, 22 August 2015, 03:38:20
More
SA's are pretttty tall compared to DSA's, Cherry's
Indeed! 1976 was my first foray into SA, and the height was indeed very surprising. I can't wait to get my grubby hands on SA Retro, my first sculpted SA set, with Modern Selectric and Jukebox tailing close behind.

I have Retro and Selectric on order too - kind of regretting not ordering Jukebox now that the SA Out of The Vault sets are on the horizon.

I'm in the same boat, two great SA sets on the way and now Carbon comes up and I have to decide if I need even more SA in my life. I only have two MX boards! I hear once you start purchasing boards specifically for extra sets that's when the real wallet hack kicks in  ;)

Wasn't a huge fan of Jukebox but I definitely regret not getting in on 1976!

Carbon got very expensive for me. I was just going to get a base and novelties, but then I realised my one really custom layout could be filled out using keys from both the Planck and ErgoDox sets... so I added those. Ended up buying Base, Orange Alphas, Planck, ErgoDox, Novelties, Warnings, Forums and some spacebars... Almost also bought the Mod and Flex kits...

Just look at the stats on it... over 400 base kits sold! Impressive: http://www.massdrop.community/

If you're still interested in 1976, it's selling on PMK store again: http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/1976-keycap-set

Just looked base is out of stock

Darn...

Well, we've cleared up the PBT caps confusion with SP.

Apparently the 1x and 1.5x caps are from a small run done for a client. They don't have the capabilities to dyesub them (you need special holders for each type of cap and they don't have SA ones) and they won't do any larger runs of them. So those are the only ones likely to ever be made by them.

PBT is not feasible for SA profile GB's. :(

I think I may just buy some, simply for the rarity value :)

Absolutely loving the sample pics, can't wait for these to ship!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 22 August 2015, 04:35:33
I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 22 August 2015, 04:50:28
I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.

extremely bad news, it might also create a shade difference
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Sat, 22 August 2015, 07:44:32
I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.

Wtf? Did they spill all of it? Lose a pallet? You think they would notice before they get halfway through a run.

We should emphasize that variations in the color will be rejected.

Thanks for the update, sorry for the headache on your end.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sat, 22 August 2015, 07:56:38
well questionable how deep they are in prod already given they wanted to ship on wed. and realize about 2 days after that they run out of brown pellets ( usualy they come in 50 kg bags or 250 kg drums ) ..

do we have a idea how long there leadtimes for pellets are ? and how long a rescheduling of the production will take ? 1-2 month or more a thing of a other week ?

usualy thats inaceptable SP should have done there diligence in terms of stocking .. they know there yields
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:06:26
I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.

Wtf? Did they spill all of it? Lose a pallet? You think they would notice before they get halfway through a run.

We should emphasize that variations in the color will be rejected.

Thanks for the update, sorry for the headache on your end.

On the bright side, the brown is pretty dark, it's almost black in some shades, so it will probably mask variations well, hopefully at least
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 22 August 2015, 11:15:22
I will not accept color variations. If they can't guarantee 100% color matching I will demand the whole batch redone.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Sat, 22 August 2015, 11:24:51
I will not accept color variations. If they can't guarantee 100% color matching I will demand the whole batch redone.

damn
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tangkims on Sat, 22 August 2015, 11:37:23
I will not accept color variations. If they can't guarantee 100% color matching I will demand the whole batch redone.

damn

If that's the case... will you take one more order for poor little old me? =)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Sat, 22 August 2015, 12:25:39
I will not accept color variations. If they can't guarantee 100% color matching I will demand the whole batch redone.

We'd expect nothing less than the pursuit of perfection from Matt3o.

All the same my sympathies for having to deal with this, running out of raw materials in the middle of an agreed production batch is shockingly poor process control on their part.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sat, 22 August 2015, 16:01:47
Agreed that it's extremely poor practice for a large manufacturing facility to not have raw materials calculated before a run. Hoepfully this doesn't turn into some crazy year long endeavour.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 22 August 2015, 17:12:10
It would be nice if SP invested in some R4 Shifts as apologies :)

There is a naive part of me that hopes this set is secretly the first set with some R4 Shifts, and it will be a huge surprise

The initial R4 shift rumours got me, I was shocked when I found out there was no R4 Shifts
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Sun, 23 August 2015, 11:39:03
Last I heard the set was going to ship a few days ago, so is most of the production run done and sitting in their warehouse? Or did they wait to communicate this for some reason?

I have a fair amount tied up in this set, so I really want to understand what's happening.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Sun, 23 August 2015, 11:40:26
Last I heard the set was going to ship a few days ago, so is most of the production run done and sitting in their warehouse? Or did they wait to communicate this for some reason?

I have a fair amount tied up in this set, so I really want to understand what's happening.

I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 23 August 2015, 12:45:53
It would be nice if SP invested in some R4 Shifts as apologies :)

There is a naive part of me that hopes this set is secretly the first set with some R4 Shifts, and it will be a huge surprise
....

That would be truly awesome! But somehow I don't think SP will invest $9000 in R4 molds just because of a single GB being delayed.

I do think they should, though. Perhaps they don't realise how much people are interested in seeing this happen, or how many more sets they'd sell with the proper Shifts. At the moment, though, they are getting so many orders for SA sets coming in that they're probably not concerned.

If they ever do make them I'd like to see a mini GB of R4 Shifts for all the sculptured SA sets that have been made with R3 shifts.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Sun, 23 August 2015, 15:36:17
Last I heard the set was going to ship a few days ago, so is most of the production run done and sitting in their warehouse? Or did they wait to communicate this for some reason?

I have a fair amount tied up in this set, so I really want to understand what's happening.

I have bad news, guys.

SP ran out of brown plastic and they need to restock. This will lead to some delay. I'm waiting for a new ETA, but it won't be pleasant.

Yeah, wow, no kidding. Matt3o's update coincides with when the set was supposed to be shipping. So is most of the production run done and sitting in SP's warehouse? Or did SP wait to communicate this for some reason?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 19:33:05

I'm such a tease

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/RlxQhUh.jpg)


I don't know the order in which keys are produced (though I assume they're made per key in bulk vs complete sets at a time). Since it looks like Matt3o has received samples of some of the keys already made, I would suspect at least some portion of caps within a set have already been made?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:56:46
Yeah, wow, no kidding. Matt3o's update coincides with when the set was supposed to be shipping. So is most of the production run done and sitting in SP's warehouse? Or did SP wait to communicate this for some reason?

They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 24 August 2015, 03:46:59
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

Just interested in knowing, who is the Person in Charge of Inventory Management at their Company?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Mon, 24 August 2015, 08:24:49
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

Just interested in knowing, who is the Person in Charge of Inventory Management at their Company?

Presumably by now he has been sacked, and the people responsible for sacking him have been sacked.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Mon, 24 August 2015, 08:59:22
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

Just interested in knowing, who is the Person in Charge of Inventory Management at their Company?

Presumably by now he has been sacked, and the people responsible for sacking him have been sacked.

Or, more likely, they take most of their orders from companies, and these hobbyist-level orders just fill in the gaps between big runs and they really couldn't care less if a bunch of internet nerds get a little upset that their retro computer caps are late.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Mon, 24 August 2015, 09:13:05
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

Just interested in knowing, who is the Person in Charge of Inventory Management at their Company?

Presumably by now he has been sacked, and the people responsible for sacking him have been sacked.

Or, more likely, they take most of their orders from companies, and these hobbyist-level orders just fill in the gaps between big runs and they really couldn't care less if a bunch of internet nerds get a little upset that their retro computer caps are late.
Most likely correct.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Mon, 24 August 2015, 11:54:00
Fantastic.

At this point I've got three SA profile key cap sets on order: Round 5a, SA Retro, and Carbon. Let's see which one shows up first. Maybe I'll get them all on Christmas day.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Mon, 24 August 2015, 11:56:26
Man I wish I could get in on that Carbon buy, but I just bought a house, sooooooooo yeah... not gonna happen :(
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:02:12
I'm not very chatty about this manner because if I talk I'd say things that I'll regret.

So let's keep it calm. Let's say that **** happens. Let's say "first world problems".
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:13:29
I'm not very chatty about this manner because if I talk I'd say things that I'll regret.

So let's keep it calm. Let's say that **** happens. Let's say "first world problems".

I think everyone understands that it's out of your hands. I suspect it will still get here before the Infinity I ordered from Massdrop.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:33:07
I'm not very chatty about this manner because if I talk I'd say things that I'll regret.

So let's keep it calm. Let's say that **** happens. Let's say "first world problems".

That's a great stance to take. Good job.

First world problems, indeed.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Mon, 24 August 2015, 13:10:30
Man I wish I could get in on that Carbon buy, but I just bought a house, sooooooooo yeah... not gonna happen :(

Hey man, you should check out the prices again! Hitting 500 base sets gave us a HUGE discount! A $2.50 drop!  :))
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Mon, 24 August 2015, 22:37:36
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

I suppose that makes sense why it only came up in the 11th hour. One would think that they would weigh the pellets to confirm the amount, but I guess they're a small facility that may not have a very sophisticated process.

There's not a whole lot I can do as a buyer to help out (please correct me if there is), so I wish you luck getting this sorted.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 24 August 2015, 22:44:46
Fantastic.

At this point I've got three SA profile key cap sets on order: Round 5a, SA Retro, and Carbon. Let's see which one shows up first. Maybe I'll get them all on Christmas day.

Same here but guess what, it's NEVER ENOUGH my pet - always keep buying more no matter the consequences  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 24 August 2015, 23:29:44
Sad news to hear about the delay... Matt3o, you have the patience and the reserve of a saint!

Thinking about the delay just makes me regret not going in on the alternate functions :( I would very much like to get hold of a set - curse you past self.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 25 August 2015, 01:17:14
they said there won't be any color variation between batches. I hope that's true.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 25 August 2015, 02:51:22
do we have a new eta ?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 25 August 2015, 03:12:19
you know it as soon as I know it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:25:25
They told me that they had little brown remaining, but they thought they could make it. They couldn't.

I suppose that makes sense why it only came up in the 11th hour. One would think that they would weigh the pellets to confirm the amount, but I guess they're a small facility that may not have a very sophisticated process.

My guess: They had enough TBN pellets, but just barely, then they lost a couple batches to QC, which put them behind.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 29 August 2015, 00:56:42
new ETA is end of next week.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 29 August 2015, 01:11:06
new ETA is end of next week.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GtgI61fTbJg/VPaD9iuzSiI/AAAAAAAAWmY/V8mJkugqNdI/s1600/clapping.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 29 August 2015, 02:31:30
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/80/25/db/8025db09881d98a0eb34121326983cd4.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Zebadule on Sat, 29 August 2015, 12:52:51
Well that was a lot less dire than it sounded. Glad to hear it's all back on track so soon!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 29 August 2015, 19:58:40
Well that was a lot less dire than it sounded. Glad to hear it's all back on track so soon!

Why not because Matt3o's in Charge, no one dares to drop the ball when he's around  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Sat, 29 August 2015, 20:29:56
Well that was a lot less dire than it sounded. Glad to hear it's all back on track so soon!

Why not because Matt3o's in Charge, no one dares to drop the ball when he's around  8) .

Damn right.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Sat, 29 August 2015, 20:42:46
Awwwwww yissssss
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Sun, 30 August 2015, 09:29:49
Well that was a lot less dire than it sounded. Glad to hear it's all back on track so soon!

Why not because Matt3o's in Charge, no one dares to drop the ball when he's around  8) .

'He's the cat who won't cop out, can you dig it?'
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Sun, 30 August 2015, 15:31:17
Well that was a lot less dire than it sounded. Glad to hear it's all back on track so soon!

Why not because Matt3o's in Charge, no one dares to drop the ball when he's around  8) .

'He's the cat who won't cop out, can you dig it?'

He's a complicated man
But no one understands him but his...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 31 August 2015, 01:37:40
he is douchebag, I know him personally.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 31 August 2015, 02:33:19
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Mon, 31 August 2015, 03:32:21
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
I like what you got.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 31 August 2015, 04:02:52
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
I like what you got.

Take off your pants and your panties.....  8)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 31 August 2015, 04:13:25
don't know what you guys are talking about
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: zenless on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:50:35
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
I like what you got.

Take off your pants and your panties.....  8)

wubadubadubdub
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Mon, 31 August 2015, 09:04:09
don't know what you guys are talking about


http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/Get_Schwifty_(Song)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 31 August 2015, 19:18:49
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

Who is a douchebag?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 31 August 2015, 21:06:29
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

Who is a douchebag?

ME  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 31 August 2015, 21:11:50
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

Who is a douchebag?

ME  :thumb: .

Ah...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Tue, 01 September 2015, 01:58:33
he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
I like what you got.

Take off your pants and your panties.....  8)

wubadubadubdub

he is douchebag, I know him personally.

SO you think he's more like Rick Sanchez instead......... Get Schwifty.............  ;D .
I like what you got.

Take off your pants and your panties.....  8)

wubadubadubdub

It's not even a word, I don't care it's working
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 01 September 2015, 16:59:07
taa-daa

(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 01 September 2015, 17:00:04
Murrrrrr! We need them NOW!! :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Tue, 01 September 2015, 17:09:27
I hate to mention it but the 2 and the 3 have the wrong symbols above them :)

Looks amazing! I can't wait to feel like a time-traveller.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kennardsmith on Tue, 01 September 2015, 17:31:25
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)


 :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 01 September 2015, 17:55:01
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)

It's.... it's.... glorious!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 01 September 2015, 19:47:54
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)



GEEZUS H. KRYST......  Skeet has just shot through my LCD screen like a 12-gauge.

The most beautiful picture yet shown in this section, looks like SP has finally come through here. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 01 September 2015, 20:03:09
soon
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 01 September 2015, 20:22:29
If you want the real thing Austin Goodwill is selling a Commodore PET 2001. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321851067930
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: freefall316 on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:05:34
I hate to mention it but the 2 and the 3 have the wrong symbols above them :)

Looks amazing! I can't wait to feel like a time-traveller.

I agree that these keys do look amazing and while noted that 2 and 3 differ from a C64 keyboard they do completely match the mock-up posted here and on the CTRLALT site.

I am absolutely stoked to get these keycaps.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Tue, 01 September 2015, 21:25:19
I hate to mention it but the 2 and the 3 have the wrong symbols above them :)

Looks amazing! I can't wait to feel like a time-traveller.

I agree that these keys do look amazing and while noted that 2 and 3 differ from a C64 keyboard they do completely match the mock-up posted here and on the CTRLALT site.


Trust me, I was being in no way serious.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 01 September 2015, 22:32:50
Looks awesome! Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 02 September 2015, 01:22:49
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)


Another thing of note here is that the side graphics of these caps are plastic injection molded or printed on?

If printed on, how is SP going to ship them without damage occurring during transit to people's destinations, throughout the world?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 02 September 2015, 07:35:25
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)


Another thing of note here is that the side graphics of these caps are plastic injection molded or printed on?

If printed on, how is SP going to ship them without damage occurring during transit to people's destinations, throughout the world?
It would be CtrlAlt actually shipping individual sets to us, after receiving the bulk shipment from SP. It was Massdrop, not SP, that caused the whole Triumph Adler fiasco.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: cwils0n on Wed, 02 September 2015, 07:52:45
Damnit, wish I would have anticipated my want for an ergodox with SA's when this GB was available...now I'm full of regret and jealousy.



Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:01:28
Damnit, wish I would have anticipated my want for an ergodox with SA's when this GB was available...now I'm full of regret and jealousy.
Yeah, I really envy the crazies that spend $500+ on every set just to get multiples of every child kit in case they get a Planck, switch to Dvorak one day, etc.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:09:44
It would be CtrlAlt actually shipping individual sets to us, after receiving the bulk shipment from SP. It was Massdrop, not SP, that caused the whole Triumph Adler fiasco.

CtrlAlt is in the UK. My understanding is that US orders would be fulfilled from the US. Is SP shipping those directly?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:11:41
It would be CtrlAlt actually shipping individual sets to us, after receiving the bulk shipment from SP. It was Massdrop, not SP, that caused the whole Triumph Adler fiasco.

CtrlAlt is in the UK. My understanding is that US orders would be fulfilled from the US. Is SP shipping those directly?
Somewhere in the hundreds of posts in this thread, the probably lies an answer. :) Buy I'm too lazy to look.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:17:04
Still looking for any US sellers, particularly for Burgundy and matching numpad.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:03:28
taa-daa

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XbCFqPB.jpg)


End result is fantastic
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: temporal on Wed, 02 September 2015, 17:46:48
looking so good  :cool:

and now Junktown Novelties - row 1 goodness for my media keys!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 02 September 2015, 19:33:14
looking so good  :cool:

and now Junktown Novelties - row 1 goodness for my media keys!

This guy gets it  :D

My Infinity, PETSCII, Lime Vim escape, Lime Nuka Cola on the end of the num row, lime Commodore super keys = perfection!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Thu, 03 September 2015, 04:38:34
My minila and numpad can't wait !!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Thu, 03 September 2015, 21:20:06
the wait is almost over  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Fri, 04 September 2015, 00:28:00
Dear God let it hurry up I'm coding on inferior plastics.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:11:27
Can't wait for this set to be new bae.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:41:02
So much regret that I didn't have the funds for this while it was open.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Fri, 04 September 2015, 17:37:09
So much regret that I didn't have the funds for this while it was open.

I'm sure someone wouldn't mind trading it for your PuLSE ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Sun, 06 September 2015, 01:16:48
Dear God let it hurry up I'm coding on inferior plastics.

Currently on my Granite set and liking it far more than any other DSA set I've tried, but this retro set really kinda makes me tingle in my jingle
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 07 September 2015, 11:48:23
thank you for keeping us posted .. i suppose sp did it, and the order is on route to cody ?

lime is very vibrant, looks amazing! .. are there pics from the burg. red already?

thanks
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 07 September 2015, 11:50:34
thank you for keeping us posted .. i suppose sp did it, and the order is on route to cody ?

lime is very vibrant, looks amazing! .. are there pics from the burg. red already?

thanks

there is a possibility it is being delivered today, but ill update people when i know more
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 07 September 2015, 11:56:40
perfect thanks
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 07 September 2015, 12:10:56
 :D :D :D

Appreciate all the work you bros have put in. Not long left now everyone  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 07 September 2015, 20:23:00
Thanks Bunny for the update.

Hmmm... Little scared that this, hyper and JT gets shipped around the same time. Lots of explaining to the Mrs. If that doesn't work, go with plan B -> shoes or bag.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 07 September 2015, 20:37:12
Thanks Bunny for the update.

Hmmm... Little scared that this, hyper and JT gets shipped around the same time. Lots of explaining to the Mrs. If that doesn't work, go with plan B -> shoes or bag.  ;D

or you can pm Vaun as a plan C: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.msg1823913#msg1823913
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 07 September 2015, 21:12:44
Thanks Bunny for the update.

Hmmm... Little scared that this, hyper and JT gets shipped around the same time. Lots of explaining to the Mrs. If that doesn't work, go with plan B -> shoes or bag.  ;D

or you can pm Vaun as a plan C: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71507.msg1823913#msg1823913

Let me PM him and ask for a quote. That might end up much cheaper. Haha..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:24:05
got word retro is actually arriving today

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:34:47
got word retro is actually arriving today

my body is ready!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:39:02
got word retro is actually arriving today

happy 7000 posts, it's such a behemoth of a number :)

----------

I was supposed to sleep 10+ hours today but waked up at 5 hours with the urge to get some custom R3 bottom row keys for optimal thumb keypresses with Retro SA, I was intending to let go off my Retro SA set, yet it seems my sub conscious really really wants the set for some Retro/SA goodness

I'm really torn, practically speaking, through experience I know that Cherry profile is my optimal profile for typing and anything else just hinders my ability to type, yet I can't seem to stop wanting these keys
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Tue, 08 September 2015, 11:07:48
got word retro is actually arriving today


*maniacal giggling*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 08 September 2015, 13:04:23
Do we know if there will be any chance of extra space bars? I only ordered an extra set of the small spaces and now I'm thinking I may need an extra 6.25. At one point I thought it was mentioned that SP was going to be producing extra spaces and blanks to go along with group buys, but I haven't seen that recently.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 08 September 2015, 13:37:20
Do we know if there will be any chance of extra space bars? I only ordered an extra set of the small spaces and now I'm thinking I may need an extra 6.25. At one point I thought it was mentioned that SP was going to be producing extra spaces and blanks to go along with group buys, but I haven't seen that recently.

They said they would make blanks available with all the keysets they produce with the impression that it will also include public but external GB's like Retro SA, however I wouldn't hold my breath, they don't even have blanks for Dolch/Eve etc.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 08 September 2015, 14:03:36
they attempted delivery today earlier than expected and cody was running an errand, so delivery has been rescheduled for tomorrow
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 08 September 2015, 15:09:29
Oh sad.

Are you sure this isn't just the usual UPS ding-dong-ditch behavior? ;)

Last week I was supposed to receive a UPS package "between 1:45pm and 3:45pm". It showed up at 8:30pm.

There's a reason I always ship FedEx or USPS. :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 08 September 2015, 21:56:25
On the bright side I ordered limited edition stickers for all retro orders and they'll be ready in the morning.

I also have all the packing supplies ready, I'm planning out a very fast turnaround for this group buy.

<3
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 08 September 2015, 21:57:46
On the bright side I ordered limited edition stickers for all retro orders and they'll be ready in the morning.

I also have all the packing supplies ready, I'm planning out a very fast turnaround for this group buy.

<3
I love you. :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:30:39
On the bright side I ordered limited edition stickers for all retro orders and they'll be ready in the morning.

I also have all the packing supplies ready, I'm planning out a very fast turnaround for this group buy.

<3
I love you. :)

Cody deserves a fan club here on GH  :thumb: .

Talk about making ready for his next shipment way before anything arrives on his doorstep, look up "Codyeatworld" in the dictionary and it means Superb Organization and Logistical Support  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:44:59
On the bright side I ordered limited edition stickers for all retro orders and they'll be ready in the morning.

Thank you Cody for tossing in the sticker I am super excited to finally get these caps. It's my first gb and the anticipation may have given me an ulcer. It's probably all the red bull but still I have a sneaking suspicion the anticipation dwarves started it -_- sneaky bastards.

I also have all the packing supplies ready, I'm planning out a very fast turnaround for this group buy.

<3
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Tue, 08 September 2015, 22:47:03
Well it looks like I don't know how to use the quote button.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Tue, 08 September 2015, 23:18:06
On the bright side I ordered limited edition stickers for all retro orders and they'll be ready in the morning.

I also have all the packing supplies ready, I'm planning out a very fast turnaround for this group buy.

<3


*hugs*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 09 September 2015, 03:08:49
This is great!

Cody, you rock! (and Matt3o and the rest of the Ctrl|Alt team of course!)

Superb effort in the light of SP's logistic error with the plastic and their heavy schedule for SA caps (all SA sets are seeing delays).

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 09 September 2015, 03:57:42
Superb effort in the light of SP's logistic error with the plastic and their heavy schedule for SA caps (all SA sets are seeing delays).

No sweat, there is always GMK and JT being available to supply key-sets for hard-core GH collectors  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 09 September 2015, 06:52:15
This is great!

Cody, you rock! (and Matt3o and the rest of the Ctrl|Alt team of course!)

Superb effort in the light of SP's logistic error with the plastic and their heavy schedule for SA caps (all SA sets are seeing delays).
Yeah, and my crazy ass bought FOUR!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 09 September 2015, 07:07:03
Four retro sets, or four SA sets? Cause both seem perfectly logical considering the market for sets here and on r/mechmarket
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 09 September 2015, 07:13:56
Four retro sets, or four SA sets? Cause both seem perfectly logical considering the market for sets here and on r/mechmarket

Lol... 4 SA. Retro, Modern Selectric, Jukebox, and Carbon. Did I miss any other SA sets that popped up in the meantime?

Although... part of me wishes I could have invested more in each set for resale. Stupid me resold my Granite set at cost and it was snatched up in five minutes. Should have marked it up.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 09 September 2015, 11:54:57
Looking forward to these! I can not wait to see how True Retro and PETSCII look on my keyboard
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 11:56:50
Looking forward to these! I can not wait to see how True Retro and PETSCII look on my keyboard

cody is sat in the office right now eagerly awaiting delivery
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:01:32
That is great to hear! I kind of feel bad for the guy though, sorting and shipping Hyperfuse, and now this. I truly appreciate all the work Cody and the other members of [CTRL]ALT are doing.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:04:47
That is great to hear! I kind of feel bad for the guy though, sorting and shipping Hyperfuse, and now this. I truly appreciate all the work Cody and the other members of [CTRL]ALT are doing.

this gb is super easy in comparison thankfully, all pre sorted and a damn site less of it
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:52:55
retro is in the house
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:54:44
retro is in the house

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130126220614/glee/images/3/3c/Artie_gif_yay_woot_new_year.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:56:42
retro is in the house

WOOT WOOT!!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 09 September 2015, 12:57:19
retro is in the house

pics or it didn't happen

Seriously, though, I'm glad (well, hopeful too) that I'll have SA key caps in hand before the end of 2015.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:18:34
Currently sorting through SA Retro... All 10 boxes of it! Everything is looking good tho..

That is great to hear! I kind of feel bad for the guy though, sorting and shipping Hyperfuse, and now this. I truly appreciate all the work Cody and the other members of [CTRL]ALT are doing.

this gb is super easy in comparison thankfully, all pre sorted and a damn site less of it

Much easier!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:19:31
here is the ctrl alt fort

as well as the boxes ready for shipping this buy next to it

(http://i.imgur.com/UY0LySM.jpg)

more boxes ready for shipping

(http://i.imgur.com/FpxaMhx.jpg)

here are the 10 boxes of retro we got

(http://i.imgur.com/DovI5aM.jpg)

and here are a few shots of inside boxes

(http://i.imgur.com/RyLAgwc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S9DP9PW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pw2OD2e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qPx16xJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:22:20
I didn't participate but those caps are going to look awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:24:18
Beautiful photos, thanks.

If I were still in the Bay Area I would come help sort and pack in exchange for getting my order that much faster. Ah well.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:25:49
Oh yeah! These are gonna be great! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:26:51
Beautiful photos, thanks.

If I were still in the Bay Area I would come help sort and pack in exchange for getting my order that much faster. Ah well.

its all sorted other than the blanks for some reason, not sure why sp chose not to sort those, but itll be super quick to have this buy knocked out

im going for dinner and cody is going for lunch as he has been waiting in the office since 8 waiting for these to be dropped off

he is then picking up the special stickers we had made just for this buy and we shall hopefully get some more pics to people
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:34:08
I am pretty determined to start shipping these sets tonight too.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: snapdarty on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:40:15
Have we seen a shot of the burgundy modifiers yet? If not, could we get one now that the sets are in?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:51:09
Beautiful photos, thanks.

If I were still in the Bay Area I would come help sort and pack in exchange for getting my order that much faster. Ah well.

its all sorted other than the blanks for some reason, not sure why sp chose not to sort those, but itll be super quick to have this buy knocked out

im going for dinner and cody is going for lunch as he has been waiting in the office since 8 waiting for these to be dropped off

he is then picking up the special stickers we had made just for this buy and we shall hopefully get some more pics to people

I am so excited! The stickers tip it right over the edge. I'd better hurry up and finish hand-wiring my new board...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:51:51
I am pretty determined to start shipping these sets tonight too.

(http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/pnznkqgsrgw4tx0qdpxr.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 15:35:33
Beautiful photos, thanks.

If I were still in the Bay Area I would come help sort and pack in exchange for getting my order that much faster. Ah well.

its all sorted other than the blanks for some reason, not sure why sp chose not to sort those, but itll be super quick to have this buy knocked out

im going for dinner and cody is going for lunch as he has been waiting in the office since 8 waiting for these to be dropped off

he is then picking up the special stickers we had made just for this buy and we shall hopefully get some more pics to people

I am so excited! The stickers tip it right over the edge. I'd better hurry up and finish hand-wiring my new board...

ooo that sounds like something fun
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 15:37:07
http://i.imgur.com/ZwPPj12.jpg
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Wed, 09 September 2015, 16:13:01
Empty them all out and do a Scrooge McDuck.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:09:57
Hoooooo man! Is there going to be any left over kits Bunny? I assume not, as there was a lot less orders for Retro, but I really wanna get my mits on the Alternate Functions if there is! dat orange
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:16:28
Hoooooo man! Is there going to be any left over kits Bunny? I assume not, as there was a lot less orders for Retro, but I really wanna get my mits on the Alternate Functions if there is! dat orange
Same here.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:39:10
Hoooooo man! Is there going to be any left over kits Bunny? I assume not, as there was a lot less orders for Retro, but I really wanna get my mits on the Alternate Functions if there is! dat orange
Same here.
I hope for extra numpad kit *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:40:22
Gonna get the first 10-20 orders out tonight (by time of purchase), then I gotta run home for the night.

A few tracking number have already gone out. Shipping will resume tomorrow afternoon/night.

<3
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:23:53
Gonna get the first 10-20 orders out tonight (by time of purchase), then I gotta run home for the night.

A few tracking number have already gone out. Shipping will resume tomorrow afternoon/night.

<3

FVCK YES, OH YES, Got the Tracking Number already  :o :o :o :o .

--Dancing a Jig in my Office, have closed the blinds and sent the sec out for coffee--  so now can truly feel happy at work without anyone else knowing about it  8) .

CTRL/ALT is the BEST organization for making a key-cap dream, a reality.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:29:01
--Dancing a Jig in my Office

racist
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:50:53
--Dancing a Jig in my Office

racist

Irish, you tosser.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:51:15
If it makes it easier/cheaper for you, mine can be shipped with my hackd/HF order. I don't really mind if that delays the shipping. I'm in no rush.

If not, I'm happy to receive then as two packages  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: digi on Wed, 09 September 2015, 21:52:08
--Dancing a Jig in my Office

racist

Irish, you tosser.

Sorry m8, I don't speak Aussie
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Wed, 09 September 2015, 22:14:03
Gonna get the first 10-20 orders out tonight (by time of purchase), then I gotta run home for the night.

A few tracking number have already gone out. Shipping will resume tomorrow afternoon/night.

<3

Wish I knew where I fell on that list.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 10 September 2015, 01:49:15
Gonna get the first 10-20 orders out tonight (by time of purchase), then I gotta run home for the night.

A few tracking number have already gone out. Shipping will resume tomorrow afternoon/night.

<3

FVCK YES, OH YES, Got the Tracking Number already  :o :o :o :o .

--Dancing a Jig in my Office, have closed the blinds and sent the sec out for coffee--  so now can truly feel happy at work without anyone else knowing about it  8) .

CTRL/ALT is the BEST organization for making a key-cap dream, a reality.

Lucky sod!

;)

I'm okay to wait. It's always with mixed emotions waiting for new cap sets to come, 'cos I know I'm going to get reamed by customs before I get my hands on them.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 10 September 2015, 03:28:49
I'm okay to wait. It's always with mixed emotions waiting for new cap sets to come, 'cos I know I'm going to get reamed by customs before I get my hands on them.

Don't worry we'll soon be joining you in line, down at the local Post Office when picking up our packages, as our horrid regime introduces fresh new wave of extortion taxes.

Just need to apply the KY first before visiting them........
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 10 September 2015, 03:32:36
I hope to see one day your collection of keyset, sir Elrick.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Thu, 10 September 2015, 08:10:36
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!


Was able to get somebody's. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:02:32
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

Edit: Not available anymore, it's either sold or I changed my mind :) (spacemonkey001 gets the second dibbs tho, since s/he replied before I changed my mind)
Edit 2: Sold to harlw
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:12:24
I am pretty happy with my order ( True Retro, PETSCII, Lime, Alternate Functions ). I just wish I bought extra spacebars, cause I know they will shine first. No big deal, just have to embrace the shine  :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:14:20
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

Not interested in splitting it, eh? I didn't order the alt functions set, but would really love one.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:29:08
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

Not interested in splitting it, eh? I didn't order the alt functions set, but would really love one.

This will go to the Shipito warehouse, so I can't split, technically (I'm not in US, the import hassle is probably the actual reason I'm selling these, otherwise I would store them, as I know I would use them at a future time)

I also have the extra 1.75/1.25 arrows and the 1.75 "SYSTEM" I got, but I split that one :)
Might keep them as a keepsake

Spacebar shines in a month, so unless you buy like 100 spacebars, 1-2 is no better than 5-10

I personally move forward embracing and love the shine, it's only an issue if the contrast of the set is low, but it's not an issue on the spacebar and it's definitely not an issue with Retro SA, as the contrast is awesome
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:29:33
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00


I'll buy it - there are several sets I couldn't afford at the time that I need now.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:34:58
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

Oof. That's quite the order to take over! If only I needed the complete set...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: spacemonkey001 on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:51:18
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!

I sometimes glance at the Hack'd By Geeks keyboard I've built for my brother and regret abandoning SA's, I dream about building a Retro SA keyboard, yet GMK's are good for me, so I'm going to sell my entire order, it's a bit complicated tho:
More
Xs c553053996bdb3a9e6e77fae06cc18a7   Retro Burgundy
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00
Xs bb615b767531578c3a4b517105c902e7   Pro Burgundy Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d   Colemak and Dvorak
SA Retro   1   $18.00   $18.00
Xs e8d89715e0d6bf362b4c2e2c73c90d3d   ISO
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs cbab639a7ca0abe0ba569215bdd35a71   Blanks
SA Retro   2   $6.00   $12.00
Xs 5146407619eabd4807970a799051fd49   Small Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $10.00   $10.00
Xs 9b0b3f6413f9efadea83c35081fb86d1   Big Spacebars
SA Retro   1   $6.00   $6.00
Xs 7eadac55e21b4bbc57cd9c85142288a7   Apple
SA Retro   1   $25.00   $25.00
Xs 3f1eac3e14b94025b8435934372393d4   Lime
SA Retro   1   $20.00   $20.00
Xs 5683b24fad04d5807c0c55c12f3ab30e   Numberpad
SA Retro   1   $23.00   $23.00
Xs 0938f08444db27ea867dae2adc7712a1   Alternate Functions
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs e5453279040c8ad0c447e551803a376c   Pro Mods
SA Retro   1   $35.00   $35.00
Xs 42860cae4759f0dff84d43cb04d4ed7d   True Retro
SA Retro   1   $80.00   $80.00

I'm also willing to buy this. Since you split out the custom keycaps its feasible. Does anyone want to split it together? There's two full keysets here with True Retro and Retro Burgundy.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:52:17
Hell. Yes. I can't wait to sexify my Minila Air :p
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Thu, 10 September 2015, 10:24:18
Hell. Yes. I can't wait to sexify my Minila Air :p

Make sure you post pics! That will look awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: The Nude Wizard on Thu, 10 September 2015, 11:23:12
They look so good, I cant wait.


Also, I realised I dun goofed and didn't get a burgundy pro mods set, so if anyone has the following key(s) for sale, trade or whatever please pm me.

(http://i.imgur.com/o2Nmo9s.jpg)

I'd prefer just the R1 the Del key but i'll take what i can get, would consider buying a whole spare pro mods set if someone has it,  cheers.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 10 September 2015, 13:01:02
retro is in the house


I've taken over Khaannn's order - sent a message and address has been updated in his order on ctrlalt.io - let me know if anything further needs to be done.


THANKS!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: cwils0n on Thu, 10 September 2015, 13:04:20
Long shot here, but if anyone has a true retro or burgundy set and an ergodox add on they're looking to part with let me know.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Thu, 10 September 2015, 14:46:57
If anyone would like to arrange a trade or sale of an incoming Commodore-logo key or two in brown or burgundy, please let me know.

The C64 was my first computer, and although I could not afford to get in on this buy I would be very happy to get one or more of those specific keys for obvious nostalgia reasons.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:27:44
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!


Was able to get somebody's. Thanks!

I took over zenless's order. If that order hasn't shipped, I'd like to have the address modified to the new address. Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 10 September 2015, 16:41:22
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!


Was able to get somebody's. Thanks!

I took over zenless's order. If that order hasn't shipped, I'd like to have the address modified to the new address. Cheers!

WTG!

Now, if I could find someone with a spare Burgundy NumPad kit... ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Thu, 10 September 2015, 20:53:02
Anybody in the States whose order hasn't shipped and is willing to sell, let me know! Looking for:
SA Retro Burgundy
Burgundy Numpad

And possibly:
Alternative Functions
Lime
Big Spacebars

Cheers!


Was able to get somebody's. Thanks!

I took over zenless's order. If that order hasn't shipped, I'd like to have the address modified to the new address. Cheers!

Oops. Forgot to mention that I'm still looking for the Alternative Functions, Lime, and Big Spacebars.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 10 September 2015, 20:55:04
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)

Playing around with Retro finally.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kokokoy on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:04:34
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.

Playing with Retro and us!?!  :mad: Now I know I should have gone with petscii. Anyway excited for this. Thanks for all the hard work guys.

By the way, I also have HF yet to be shipped. If its cheaper and easier for you guys that can be shipped as one.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:18:32
My KUL is waiting  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:29:16
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.


OMG - what board is that? Retro is killer with that orange.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Thu, 10 September 2015, 21:51:42
Oh.         My.              Gurd
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 10 September 2015, 23:04:54
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.

Wow, that looks great!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 10 September 2015, 23:37:43
Mine are on the way...thanks cody, Bunz, and Matt3o...can't wait
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 11 September 2015, 00:51:16
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.

Jeez, cody! Warn before posting these images! Gotta go change my pants now.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 11 September 2015, 01:31:34
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.

Jeez, cody! Warn before posting these images! Gotta go change my pants now.

Too late Matt, mine has already been shredded to bits from all that pressure, now am stuck walking around the office with no pants whatsoever.......  8)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Fri, 11 September 2015, 03:37:37
No shipping for me yet. I'm Order #327078, Payment received May 28 at 04:12 PM . I think I was one of the later orders.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Supergeek on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:14:39
The PETSCII came out amazing. I am envious!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Fri, 11 September 2015, 06:49:25
We've put in an order for 25 Brown ISO enters, matching the True Retro variety of this wonder, and are taking delivery on October 19th. A registration/order form is now set up. Check the IC for the cap or go straight ahead and sign up, if you're already aware:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73052

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RFOYUNgaxsQcWfEdk8oycr3oL1SsdyPH3pxBZZn2Mb4/viewform?c=0&w=1

Yearning for True Retro  :p
flamf
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 11 September 2015, 07:06:56
what I find unfair is that I'll get my set last :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Fri, 11 September 2015, 07:13:35
what I find unfair is that I'll get my set last :P

not so sure .. my stuff hits bunny first .. and he sends it up to scotland .. so by the time i get mine .. yours is probably already in italy
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Sat, 12 September 2015, 05:54:07
Hell. Yes. I can't wait to sexify my Minila Air :p

Make sure you post pics! That will look awesome.


Will do !  Love that little board :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: fenwick on Sat, 12 September 2015, 20:26:44
This anticipation is killing me. I almost wish I could forget about ordering and just have it suddenly arrive on my doorstep unexpectedly one day.

Do all GBs feel like this?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sat, 12 September 2015, 22:15:38
This anticipation is killing me. I almost wish I could forget about ordering and just have it suddenly arrive on my doorstep unexpectedly one day.

Do all GBs feel like this?
ditto ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 13 September 2015, 02:03:04
This anticipation is killing me. I almost wish I could forget about ordering and just have it suddenly arrive on my doorstep unexpectedly one day.

Do all GBs feel like this?

no, only those made out of magic!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 13 September 2015, 02:22:40
This anticipation is killing me. I almost wish I could forget about ordering and just have it suddenly arrive on my doorstep unexpectedly one day.

Do all GBs feel like this?

no, only those made out of magic!

When the Magic Giver happens to be Matt3o  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 13 September 2015, 11:09:57
ton of orders are going out right now

cant wait to see pics of this set on all the different set ups
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mtl on Sun, 13 September 2015, 17:48:34
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.
Those are classy.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:08:02
About 50 orders were packed today and will be dropped off tomorrow. :)

<3

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j7hz0rb.png)


Playing around with Retro finally.


OMG - what board is that? Retro is killer with that orange.

Its a GON NS in semi-glare orange.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:13:14
I got my shipment notice, and I am sooooooo excited to get these in hand!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:26:10
I got my shipment notice, and I am sooooooo excited to get these in hand!

Thanks for you order sir!

Cant wait for you to get them either!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:32:41
I got my shipment notice, and I am sooooooo excited to get these in hand!

40+ orders went out this afternoon, stoked to see these start showing up
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Sun, 13 September 2015, 21:46:09
Still no mail, anxiety will kill me :P
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sun, 13 September 2015, 23:29:06
I feel like a billion people are ahead of me lol.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 14 September 2015, 00:03:00
I feel like a billion people are ahead of me lol.

Only way to get ahead of the cue is to be Cody's B1TCH  8) .

You have to spend time cleaning his place spotless, clean and polish his car, pay all his bills for several weeks then maybe you'll get a chance to jump this long queue that extends half way around the world.

Do all that or become an extremely patient and virtuous like a spring bride, waiting for her inevitable Wedding Day  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Mon, 14 September 2015, 12:13:45
Hmmmm I'm not sure which is the better option. I better start making flow charts and a power point of pro/cons.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Mon, 14 September 2015, 15:24:38
I feel like a billion people are ahead of me lol.

Only way to get ahead of the cue is to be Cody's B1TCH  8) .

You have to spend time cleaning his place spotless, clean...

oo-er.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Mon, 14 September 2015, 21:11:09
Any chance to get an ETA for the shipping?  :P  (yeah well, I waiting for this and my topre pbt space bars for months :P)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Mon, 14 September 2015, 22:26:05
MY ORDER SHIPPED <3 U BOO
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 14 September 2015, 22:35:01
<333

Just packed about 40 orders. :) Theyll be dropped off at the post office in the morning.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Mon, 14 September 2015, 22:43:40
How many of those things you got left Cody?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Tue, 15 September 2015, 05:23:30
I received a tracking number last night. Thanks Cody!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: bubbedi on Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:03:43
I presume I was among the initial 20 of this groub buy, since this message is crafted by caps this buy is all about. SA RETRO ARRIVED!!

My first SA experience, so right now I am basically just smiling and understanding what the SA-fuzz is all about. Holy cow it's a delight!


Regarding the design itself, you guys just HAVE to see this baby with your own eyes - so I won't share any pictures.
I am extremely happy with the result and I'm certain I won't be the only one.
Thanks matt3o and ctrlalt.io for making this happen, my birthday is this friday but man does it feel like today.

1 thing went wrong tho, but surely no game-breaker for the majority of this buy:

The colemak + dvorak kit has the row 3 backspace meaning to replace the capslock. The size is off I'm afraid (same size as the R1 backspace).
For me it doesn't matter, but maybe somebody valued this alot.



Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:47:30
I presume I was among the initial 20 of this groub buy, since this message is crafted by caps this buy is all about. SA RETRO ARRIVED!!

My first SA experience, so right now I am basically just smiling and understanding what the SA-fuzz is all about. Holy cow it's a delight!


Regarding the design itself, you guys just HAVE to see this baby with your own eyes - so I won't share any pictures.
I am extremely happy with the result and I'm certain I won't be the only one.

That is what every first timer says when he or she receives their VERY FIRST SA profiled key-set  8) .

Another thing of note photos can never capture any form of REALITY when you see these for the first time with your own baby blues.  It's like an epiphany of sorts and the joy comes later because you suddenly realize that you have something that very few people have on the surface of this planet......Perfection Personified for any Mechanical Keyboard.

Still in this game because I can never get bored or weary when it comes to acquiring ever more key-caps.  Owning more SA Profiles is like an addiction, in which too much is never enough  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 15 September 2015, 08:27:13
...  Owning more SA Profiles is like an addiction, in which too much is never enough  :thumb: .

Preach it, brother! SA is where it's at! I also just can't stop buying these SA sets....
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:15:54
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)

This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:20:18
More
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)
Looks great ! I am starting to think I should have gone with burgundy instead of True Retro with PETSCII. I can not wait for my set to arrive, I am sure it'll look good!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:23:04
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

I would never have noticed it, but the "G" looks slightly elevated than the other letters, and maybe even a bit smaller in font.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:31:31
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

I would never have noticed it, but the "G" looks slightly elevated than the other letters, and maybe even a bit smaller in font.

...and it was brought to my attention that the C is a little wonky.

I still love the set!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:33:03
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)
I think SP's QC isn't as picky as we may like. I've definitely noticed that some of my DSA Dolch keys have legends that are ever-so-slightly off-center.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:40:40
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)


Looks amazing. I think i need to drive over to your office and pick up one of those Leopolds "lying around." :D
I realized the other day I'm only 30mins from you guys.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:44:07
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)


Looks amazing. I think i need to drive over to your office and pick up one of those Leopolds "lying around." :D
I realized the other day I'm only 30mins from you guys.

I was wondering when you would realize...I knew from your orders from the Fallout stuffs, but didn't say nuthin'
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:46:16
Is it that important to have Row 4 shifts? They are so close to the right tilt, but it doesn't really bother me. If you all make up a petition, I would sign it, but I ain't waging this war...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:48:11
Is it that important to have Row 4 shifts? They are so close to the right tilt, but it doesn't really bother me. If you all make up a petition, I would sign it, but I ain't waging this war...

this is a community composed of people that pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars for doubleshot keysets each year... I wouldn't doubt that quite a few people are pedantic about it
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:57:01
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

That's the exact set I ordered, and I'm super stoked for it to arrive.

Question though: Does anybody else's ctrlalt.io order say "unpaid"?

(http://i.imgur.com/eewwU89.png)

I'm worried there might be a complication with my order, even though my PayPal records show that I definitely paid for it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 15 September 2015, 10:57:46
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

glad to see they are arriving

once a few more pics show up, we shall see if they all have the issue or if its just your set, if its just you, ill get the odd keys replaced, if its everyone, ill speak to sp and see what if anything they can do for us
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:00:19
Is it that important to have Row 4 shifts? They are so close to the right tilt, but it doesn't really bother me. If you all make up a petition, I would sign it, but I ain't waging this war...

this is a community composed of people that pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars for doubleshot keysets each year... I wouldn't doubt that quite a few people are pedantic about it

I agree, and would second any motion toward getting SP to create the molds for the betterment of all. I just don't want to lead the charge
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:00:53
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

That's the exact set I ordered, and I'm super stoked for it to arrive.

Question though: Does anybody else's ctrlalt.io order say "unpaid"?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eewwU89.png)


I'm worried there might be a complication with my order, even though my PayPal records show that I definitely paid for it.

no complication, essentially i just missed updating it on the site but i spoke to cody about that very order this morning
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:06:49
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

glad to see they are arriving

once a few more pics show up, we shall see if they all have the issue or if its just your set, if its just you, ill get the odd keys replaced, if its everyone, ill speak to sp and see what if anything they can do for us

I hope its just an isolated situation, fo sho.

Thanks, Bunny
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:10:36
no complication, essentially i just missed updating it on the site but i spoke to cody about that very order this morning

<3 Thank you Mr Bunny, you are a legend
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:42:55
1 thing went wrong tho, but surely no game-breaker for the majority of this buy:

The colemak + dvorak kit has the row 3 backspace meaning to replace the capslock. The size is off I'm afraid (same size as the R1 backspace).
For me it doesn't matter, but maybe somebody valued this alot.

That's unfortunate. I had planned on using it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:43:54
1 thing went wrong tho, but surely no game-breaker for the majority of this buy:

The colemak + dvorak kit has the row 3 backspace meaning to replace the capslock. The size is off I'm afraid (same size as the R1 backspace).
For me it doesn't matter, but maybe somebody valued this alot.

That's unfortunate. I had planned on using it.

Every time I see your username, I giggle. I don't know why.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:44:00
1 thing went wrong tho, but surely no game-breaker for the majority of this buy:

The colemak + dvorak kit has the row 3 backspace meaning to replace the capslock. The size is off I'm afraid (same size as the R1 backspace).
For me it doesn't matter, but maybe somebody valued this alot.

That't unfortunate. I had planned on using it.

if its a mistake on sps end they have always been very good at fixing that sort of thing

matteo did the proofs for this buy form sp i believe so itll be easy to check on what we requested
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:51:16
I was confused on my order as well, is it one or two?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:53:25
Btw, I love the cool swag. Just didn't want to give the surprise away...very cool indeed. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:55:33
Btw, I love the cool swag. Just didn't want to give the surprise away...very cool indeed. Thanks!

Tomorrow, you are too far away!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 15 September 2015, 11:58:02
Not going to wait until the last day to order next time! So jealous of all the already shipped orders, can not wait to see more pics!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 15 September 2015, 12:02:05
Is it that important to have Row 4 shifts? They are so close to the right tilt, but it doesn't really bother me. If you all make up a petition, I would sign it, but I ain't waging this war...

Hehe, I'm in the process of raising that banner along with a few other set designers. It's a battle worth fighting IMHO, since they've been promised since PuLSE was in the design stages and we're still being fed the same "they're being made, but we don't know when they'll be done" line. It's the final piece of the "full contour" puzzle for SA sets, so they match all other types of contoured sets.

I've become quite used to Row 3 Shifts on my two most-used sets (Penumbra and Hack'd by Geeks), but I really do want Row 4 ones. Penumbra is surprisingly nice to use even with its 1-2-3-3-3-4 profile.

If we don't get a result from our current line of attack (diplomatic, we won't be antagonistic, respectful yet direct, we don't want to damage relationships between them and the community), we'll start a thread and open it up to designers (and possibly also the general public) to sign a petition so we can show the community is behind us.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Tue, 15 September 2015, 12:06:31
<333

Just packed about 40 orders. :) Theyll be dropped off at the post office in the morning.


Mine is ON ITS WAY. GHA. Can't wait. :D  And since my minila don't use the F row, I'm seriously researching a new TKL... ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Tue, 15 September 2015, 14:51:39
On a semi-related note, I just got this in my email:

http://i.imgur.com/A1O4Bjc.png

from customerservice@solutionsinplastic.com... I may have Modern Selectric within a day or two of SA Retro!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Dog on Tue, 15 September 2015, 16:40:57
Hoping they'll all be shipped soon.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: loktar on Tue, 15 September 2015, 20:34:55
I was confused on my order as well, is it one or two?

This actually happened to me, which has me a bit worried even though when it happened I spoke with them about it they said they were doing some site updates and it would be sorted. Money still came out as well.

(http://i.imgur.com/1tULRkP.png)

Freaks me out that it says processing still rather than paid.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Wed, 16 September 2015, 02:18:24
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)
As a precursor I promise I'm not being a smart ass, looking at the photo it seems like they just added the"G" tail to the "C" legend which makes it look tighter together or a more compact legend compared to the spacing of the neighboring legends. Kinda like doing one letter in 11.5 between a 12 font.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 16 September 2015, 03:02:41
As a precursor I promise I'm not being a smart ass, looking at the photo it seems like they just added the"G" tail to the "C" legend which makes it look tighter together or a more compact legend compared to the spacing of the neighboring legends. Kinda like doing one letter in 11.5 between a 12 font.

Don't ever worry about being a "Smart-Arse" because if you personally noticed something that everyone else has missed, far better to air it than to be quiet.

If anything is wrong with the font used in the molding of these key-sets then Melissa has to be told as soon as possible.  SP will always correct their mistake if there was one committed.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 09:45:38
Those three magic words.

OUT FOR DELIVERY.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Wed, 16 September 2015, 10:25:05
Those three magic words.

OUT FOR DELIVERY.

I know those feels.   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 16 September 2015, 10:55:30
I just got mine and filled one of the Leopolds we have in our showroom. I will just put this right here:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kqikCwC.jpg)


This is my first time owning SA profile keycaps, and they are better than I imagined. Thanks to Matt3o, BunnyLake, and codyeatworld for making this happen. If I had one complaint, it would be the 'G' key seems just a tad out of place, and I am not sure why or what it is. Maybe you can see it in the picture?

These keycaps are definitely worth every farthing, my only regret is that I didn't pick up the Burgundy NumPad set...so if anyone has one, or if there are extras please PM me.  ;D

(mic drop)

This is simply beautiful!

But dagnabit! Why'd you have to point out the "G". I measured on my Penumbra set and the G is indeed not positioned in the middle, it's a hair higher on the cap. It's 0.3mm above centre, so it's 3.4mm from the top edge, 4mm from the bottom. However, most of the other letters are 3.55 from the top, 3.85 from the bottom, so they're also a bit above centre (by around 0.15mm), but the G is just that tiny bit more raised. Doesn't bother me, actually, just as the "SHIF T" doesn't either. Or the "AL T" or the "C TRL" or the "ME TA". They add "character" IMHO. A little more off and they'd probably start to bother me, though. Could be a way to spot a "Genuine" SA set in the future... hehe...

All the legends are the same height, though, including the C and G.

All measurements were taken on the Penumbra set, but I'm pretty sure my Retros will be the same.

Can't wait for these to arrive! (and Jukebox and Carbon and my Zealios and... really should learn to have a bit more restraint...)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:17:41
Hey wait... are these PBT or ABS? Or has that been answered already?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:40:04
ABS, basically all SA profile are ABS.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:55:51
The hour approaches! Tracking page says it's been delivered. :D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:57:28
The hour approaches! Tracking page says it's been delivered. :D

great sir, hope you like it

mine got sent out yesterday, so i have a bit of a wait to see it myself
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 12:59:31
(http://i.imgur.com/6IPkux5.jpg)

A few more shots (http://imgur.com/a/xLA89)

Board is a Ducky G2 Pro.

Sorry for the shallow DOF, not much light in here. I'll try to set up some lighting and get some good shots later.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 13:01:56
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.

Edit: ignore this, turns out I AM an idiot.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 14:33:45
ABS, basically all SA profile are ABS.

Dumb.... oh well, I'm sure they'll be fun for a while
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Archangel on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:28:31
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:40:17
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.

Thanks for the tip. But actually, all the arrows are R4, so it's not as confusing as it could be.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Archangel on Wed, 16 September 2015, 15:55:16
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.

Thanks for the tip. But actually, all the arrows are R4, so it's not as confusing as it could be.
I thought it was included in case you prefer an R2 up arrow.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was referring to:

(http://i.imgur.com/mbc8rOl.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 16 September 2015, 16:21:25
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6IPkux5.jpg)


A few more shots (http://imgur.com/a/xLA89)

Board is a Ducky G2 Pro.

Sorry for the shallow DOF, not much light in here. I'll try to set up some lighting and get some good shots later.

Looks awesome! I can't wait to see mine. They're at home, but I'm away until tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 16:48:36
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.

Thanks for the tip. But actually, all the arrows are R4, so it's not as confusing as it could be.
I thought it was included in case you prefer an R2 up arrow.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was referring to:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mbc8rOl.jpg)

Ah! Maybe that IS where my extra R4 down came from. In that case, maybe I just overlooked the right arrow. I'm using PETSCII, so my bag from the base set still has a lot of keys left. I'll double-check when I get home.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Friskywhisker on Wed, 16 September 2015, 16:48:53
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)

I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:11:09
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)


I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)

that is one damn fine looking board sir
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:20:46
I am really regretting skipping the alternate functions.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: thelectronicnub on Wed, 16 September 2015, 17:25:50
Got mine today and put it on my KUL, it's looking great! Thanks for this GB!

https://imgur.com/a/mH7EB
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 16 September 2015, 18:34:36
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)


I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)

Speechless  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 18:51:45
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.

Thanks for the tip. But actually, all the arrows are R4, so it's not as confusing as it could be.
I thought it was included in case you prefer an R2 up arrow.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was referring to:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mbc8rOl.jpg)

Ah! Maybe that IS where my extra R4 down came from. In that case, maybe I just overlooked the right arrow. I'm using PETSCII, so my bag from the base set still has a lot of keys left. I'll double-check when I get home.
Yup. That was it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: mtl on Wed, 16 September 2015, 19:04:56
How does this color compare to the Filco brown SA caps?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 16 September 2015, 19:44:49
I am really regretting skipping the alternate functions.

Me too. Like, seriously regretting.

Not sure if we've seen a full-size board with burgundy mods yet. Potato will have to do.

(http://i.imgur.com/adcv36w.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: andCoffee on Wed, 16 September 2015, 20:43:24
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)


I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)

Which board is that?  That might be my favorite layout. 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: linuxhermit on Wed, 16 September 2015, 20:57:17
oMG why didn't I order these!?!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Data on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:02:31
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)


I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)

HNNNNNNNGH!   :-X

(http://i.imgur.com/8QDUDzk.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:10:05
Ok, guys, just finished my photo session with my lovely new SA Retro set. :D

Here is SA Retro + PETSCII + Numpad on a Ducky DK9008G2Pro:

Top View
(http://i.imgur.com/BBtmq5xl.jpg)

Closeup of the alpha cluster
(http://i.imgur.com/HMyWqOOl.jpg)

Artsy angled shot
(http://i.imgur.com/C8XsFXxl.jpg)

Mmm, look at those arrows
(http://i.imgur.com/AIOgOZEl.jpg)

Front view. PETSCII!
(http://i.imgur.com/QHw1qj5l.jpg)

Another angle
(http://i.imgur.com/RYCM7P3l.jpg)



And here's SA Retro + Dvorak on a white Pok3r:

(http://i.imgur.com/kQfyxIil.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DFDALzfl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xccGJhtl.jpg)



And some anomalies:

I've got some minor issues with a few keys, namely R1 profile:

The top of the Plus:
(http://i.imgur.com/gVL5GXQl.jpg)

The bottom of the 8:
(http://i.imgur.com/2cQu8SJl.jpg)

And finally, a color/legend comparison with 1976:
(http://i.imgur.com/2g7cI47l.jpg)

Edit: really sorry for slowing down everyone's browser by embedding a dozen 24 MP images! I've changed the links to point to the "large thumbnails" instead.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: codyeatworld on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:18:05
The dvorak looks great! Sorry about those issues, well see what we can do about it.

Some more retro and hyperfuse going out tonight.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 16 September 2015, 21:59:39
Artsy angled shot
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C8XsFXx.jpg)


That is what SA is all about! The full sculpt looks insane!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Archangel on Wed, 16 September 2015, 23:59:27
Bunny/Cody, I have two down arrows, and no right arrow. Unless I'm an idiot which is entirely plausible.
Row four and two have the same tilt but upside down. Could your second down arrow actually be the extra up arrow that is included in row 2?  I'm not sure about your right arrow.

Thanks for the tip. But actually, all the arrows are R4, so it's not as confusing as it could be.
I thought it was included in case you prefer an R2 up arrow.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was referring to:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mbc8rOl.jpg)

Ah! Maybe that IS where my extra R4 down came from. In that case, maybe I just overlooked the right arrow. I'm using PETSCII, so my bag from the base set still has a lot of keys left. I'll double-check when I get home.
Yup. That was it.
Glad I could help. I'm super excited to receive mine!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 17 September 2015, 01:36:44
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xgooQO2.jpg)


I missed out on DSA Retro, so I definitely couldn't pass it up in SA. The set looks amazing, great job Matt3o and [CTRL]ALT.  :)

This is glorious!

<is it just me, or does the stepped "SHIFT LOCK" key have the wrong line thickness on the font?>

So this is actually using smaller legends than most SA sets? Looks like a similar size to the standard DSA legends. It does seem to exaggerate the vertical displacement of the G a little / make it more obvious, which makes sense. I wouldn't have noticed it (and in fact didn't) on the usual sized font.

That angled shot looks awesome! It does, however, highlight the Row 3 Shifts, but fear not... "steps are being taken".
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Friskywhisker on Thu, 17 September 2015, 02:07:34

Which board is that?  That might be my favorite layout.

It's an LZ-SQ!


This is glorious!

<is it just me, or does the stepped "SHIFT LOCK" key have the wrong line thickness on the font?>

So this is actually using smaller legends than most SA sets? Looks like a similar size to the standard DSA legends. It does seem to exaggerate the vertical displacement of the G a little / make it more obvious, which makes sense. I wouldn't have noticed it (and in fact didn't) on the usual sized font.

That angled shot looks awesome! It does, however, highlight the Row 3 Shifts, but fear not... "steps are being taken".

The angle makes it look a bit more extreme than it actually is, but the SHIFT LOCK text is slightly larger and more bold than the other modifiers. The kerning on LOCK isn't the same as the SHIFT either, so I guess it could bother someone who is looking really hard...but probably no more annoying than the main "SHIF T" keys we currently have on SA sets.

As for smaller legends, I compared my Round 5 caps to SA Retro. It looks like all of the text on Retro's alpha keys are slightly smaller than Round 5's. The modifier text (including the num row and character mods) are the same size between the two, though Retro's num row text looks slightly more bold than Round 5's.

And well, the Row 3 shifts...I guess I'll stick with head-on frontal photos of the board for now.  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/5IWaFjU.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 17 September 2015, 02:11:30
Gorgeous board, gorgeous layout, gorgeous keys, gorgeous... well, OK photos  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 17 September 2015, 03:25:35

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5IWaFjU.jpg)


Gorgeous Pr0n  8) .

Who would think that plain Retro could even make any small keyboard so sexy to lust after ...... you're keyboard is doing nasty things, to my sense of reasoning.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Baxter on Thu, 17 September 2015, 06:16:30
Needs more UK ISO with added authentic office environment feel:

(http://i.imgur.com/yZI0whO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 17 September 2015, 07:06:10
Still patiently waiting on my shipping notification, that'll teach me to order in the last day.

Have not seen any non qwerty boards around, don't be shy guys.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 17 September 2015, 07:13:01
Still patiently waiting on my shipping notification, that'll teach me to order in the last day.

Have not seen any non qwerty boards around, don't be shy guys.
Wha?? I have a whole gallery about ten posts back, including Dvorak on my Pok3r.

But just for good measure, here she is at work today. :)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/a6bb17960008a9a24051a3d9d2b66134.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 17 September 2015, 08:39:29
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


(https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/items/2E1G452K1F1f060k0H1d/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-17%20at%20Sep%2017%20%7C%208.05.40%20AM.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 17 September 2015, 08:42:58
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/items/2E1G452K1F1f060k0H1d/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-17%20at%20Sep%2017%20%7C%208.05.40%20AM.png)


Ack! That's terrible!

Hope it gets resolved soon.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ctrlX on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:40:40
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/items/2E1G452K1F1f060k0H1d/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-17%20at%20Sep%2017%20%7C%208.05.40%20AM.png)

O_O that really really sucks.... Hopefully your order will arrive soon and undamaged.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Thu, 17 September 2015, 12:19:44
I guess it's time to bring up the quality issue of "swirling." Not sure if it's related to the ran-out-of-brown-pellets situation or not, but a lot of my keys look like the color was distributed unevenly, like there's a swirl of unevenly-mixed shades. Almost all of the keys in this photo exhibit it:

(http://i.imgur.com/2cQu8SJl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/2cQu8SJ.jpg)

It's really only noticeable in certain lighting, I'm imagining it's not just my set though.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 17 September 2015, 17:29:49
I've noticed the swirling on all SP caps. I have it on my Nuclear set, on the '76 set, and now this set. It's minor, and kinda pretty IMO.

The pearlescence is especially evident on larger caps. It reminds me of shampoo.

I'm guessing either the plastic is partially crystalline, or the pigment particles are consistently morphic, and that the flow causes particles to allign.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Thu, 17 September 2015, 18:12:01
I've noticed the swirling on all SP caps. I have it on my Nuclear set, on the '76 set, and now this set. It's minor, and kinda pretty IMO.

The pearlescence is especially evident on larger caps. It reminds me of shampoo.

I'm guessing either the plastic is partially crystalline, or the pigment particles are consistently morphic, and that the flow causes particles to allign.
SCIENCE!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 17 September 2015, 22:24:58
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/items/2E1G452K1F1f060k0H1d/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-17%20at%20Sep%2017%20%7C%208.05.40%20AM.png)


same thing happening to mine... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Thu, 17 September 2015, 22:41:00
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/f.cl.ly/items/2E1G452K1F1f060k0H1d/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-17%20at%20Sep%2017%20%7C%208.05.40%20AM.png)


same thing happening to mine... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


*cry on each other's shoulders*
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 17 September 2015, 22:42:17
Maybe there is a postal worker who loves SA caps...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 17 September 2015, 23:23:57
Not a good picture, but it's late and I'm tired. I love the set! Thank you Matt3o, BunnyLake,  and codyeatworld!

(My ergodox kit didn't make it, and I'll like the space row better once I make some swaps.)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/5ddf5001ddb0013de388aed382695499.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 18 September 2015, 01:45:03
I guess it's time to bring up the quality issue of "swirling." Not sure if it's related to the ran-out-of-brown-pellets situation or not, but a lot of my keys look like the color was distributed unevenly, like there's a swirl of unevenly-mixed shades. Almost all of the keys in this photo exhibit it:

(http://i.imgur.com/2cQu8SJl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/2cQu8SJ.jpg)

It's really only noticeable in certain lighting, I'm imagining it's not just my set though.

From my experience it seems to be largely a surface effect. Once the top layer is worn smooth it's not noticable any more. At least my Hack'd by Geeks caps are like that, hopefully these will show the same behaviour.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Fri, 18 September 2015, 02:14:50
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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Ack! That's terrible!

Hope it gets resolved soon.

I'm watching mine like a hawk and praying it makes it out of Oakland.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Fri, 18 September 2015, 10:10:54
it's

IT'S OUT FOR DELIVERY, GUYS
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 18 September 2015, 10:15:53
Interesting think about this profile is that I have to untilt my keyboard because the keys are so tall...hehe

(not a complaint, I promise)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Fri, 18 September 2015, 10:27:07
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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Ack! That's terrible!

Hope it gets resolved soon.

I'm watching mine like a hawk and praying it makes it out of Oakland.


Mine showed up today!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: kennardsmith on Fri, 18 September 2015, 10:35:39
OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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OH NOOOOO!!!!!


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Ack! That's terrible!

Hope it gets resolved soon.

I'm watching mine like a hawk and praying it makes it out of Oakland.


Mine showed up today!

Did the blanks win?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Fri, 18 September 2015, 10:55:09
Congrats harlw
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Fri, 18 September 2015, 11:37:05
Mine came in yesterday. All the ones I've checked look great with the exception of the 2u Colemak backspace. Did SP make that wrong or did the wrong size get ordered? A little disappointing, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 18 September 2015, 11:38:54
Not a good picture, but it's late and I'm tired. I love the set! Thank you Matt3o, BunnyLake,  and codyeatworld!

(My ergodox kit didn't make it, and I'll like the space row better once I make some swaps.)

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/5ddf5001ddb0013de388aed382695499.jpg)


That is one sexy board, sir. Good job. Already finished wiring and programming? Let's see the guts of that baby.

BTW, did your standoffs work well? The holes in my old Ortho board are nearly the same diameter of the standoffs, so they want to sink in/tilt.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:07:40
Mine came in yesterday. All the ones I've checked look great with the exception of the 2u Colemak backspace. Did SP make that wrong or did the wrong size get ordered? A little disappointing, but certainly not a deal-breaker.

CtrlAlt is checking on it. It's the correct size (1.75x) in the mockup:

(https://d1aoqdsbsuo9t3.cloudfront.net/uploads/item/default_image/107/c4c7990b75e78ceccdf1675efdb8c26d.png)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:44:02
Did the blanks win?


Yea, by like two days, lol.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: harlw on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:47:01

Which board is that?  That might be my favorite layout.

It's an LZ-SQ!


This is glorious!

<is it just me, or does the stepped "SHIFT LOCK" key have the wrong line thickness on the font?>

So this is actually using smaller legends than most SA sets? Looks like a similar size to the standard DSA legends. It does seem to exaggerate the vertical displacement of the G a little / make it more obvious, which makes sense. I wouldn't have noticed it (and in fact didn't) on the usual sized font.

That angled shot looks awesome! It does, however, highlight the Row 3 Shifts, but fear not... "steps are being taken".

The angle makes it look a bit more extreme than it actually is, but the SHIFT LOCK text is slightly larger and more bold than the other modifiers. The kerning on LOCK isn't the same as the SHIFT either, so I guess it could bother someone who is looking really hard...but probably no more annoying than the main "SHIF T" keys we currently have on SA sets.

As for smaller legends, I compared my Round 5 caps to SA Retro. It looks like all of the text on Retro's alpha keys are slightly smaller than Round 5's. The modifier text (including the num row and character mods) are the same size between the two, though Retro's num row text looks slightly more bold than Round 5's.

And well, the Row 3 shifts...I guess I'll stick with head-on frontal photos of the board for now.  :p

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(http://i.imgur.com/5IWaFjU.jpg)



So I thought that the burgundy mods would totally trump true retro - boy was I wrong!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:56:53
There's only one way to Retro and that is all brown (with green or yellow or gray accent)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:57:07
So I thought that the burgundy mods would totally trump true retro - boy was I wrong!

I like them...but I understand what you mean.

I have no regrets
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 18 September 2015, 12:57:45
There's only one way to Retro and that is all brown (with green or yellow or gray accent)

Then I say thank you very much for offering Burgundy mods.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:02:51
There's only one way to Retro and that is all brown (with green or yellow or gray accent)

Then I say thank you very much for offering Burgundy mods.  :thumb:

you are most welcome!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:09:34
The burgundy mods are what make this set interesting. The all-brown look works great for 60% boards but is too much brown for anything larger IMO.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:15:06
The burgundy mods are what make this set interesting. The all-brown look works great for 60% boards but is too much brown for anything larger IMO.

Unless you have a tan case... :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:18:10
Not a good picture, but it's late and I'm tired. I love the set! Thank you Matt3o, BunnyLake,  and codyeatworld!

(My ergodox kit didn't make it, and I'll like the space row better once I make some swaps.)

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/5ddf5001ddb0013de388aed382695499.jpg)


That is one sexy board, sir. Good job. Already finished wiring and programming? Let's see the guts of that baby.

Thank you for the compliment! I've completely wired the matrix (I'll post some pictures tonight), but I want to do some experiments with the controller, so I am going to wire the matrix to headers so I can try a bunch of different stuff. In the interests of not hijacking this thread, I'll split this off later, but in short, I am testing this (https://www.adafruit.com/product/2661) so I can build a Bluetooth PCB.

BTW, did your standoffs work well? The holes in my old Ortho board are nearly the same diameter of the standoffs, so they want to sink in/tilt.
My standoffs worked perfectly, because the holes were perfectly M2-sized (thanks to jackhumbert!)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: XMIT on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:41:05
It's here! Thank you so much Cody, Bunny, Matt3o, and everyone else involved!

I'm surprised that Signature Plastics SA is not identical to the many vintage spherical key caps I have in the house. I will need to do a comparison at some point.

I got the Retro Burgundy set and am typing on it now. Quite a change from OEM profile or DSA. It will take some getting used to. I kind of wish I had gone for the True Retro set instead but I'm not complaining.

I've got my Retro Burgundy on a CM Novatouch, dampened with Hypersphere's silencing rings. I rather prefer it to a real Topre Realforce HiPro keyboard so far. I'll work on nice photos and videos at a later date.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: daerid on Fri, 18 September 2015, 13:45:28
Have all these shipped out? I haven't received an email and my order on CtrlAlt still just says "paid" :( :( :(

*EDIT* that might be a good thing actually, considering I'm moving on Sunday. Shipping address updated.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Fri, 18 September 2015, 14:10:41
The burgundy mods are what make this set interesting. The all-brown look works great for 60% boards but is too much brown for anything larger IMO.

Unless you have a tan case... 8)

I think the set is beautiful, but even in burgundy, these (unsurprisingly) look bad with a black case. I'm looking for an upswell in Plasti-dip/vinyl wrap...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: neverused on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:05:04
Not a good picture, but it's late and I'm tired. I love the set! Thank you Matt3o, BunnyLake,  and codyeatworld!

(My ergodox kit didn't make it, and I'll like the space row better once I make some swaps.)

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/5ddf5001ddb0013de388aed382695499.jpg)


That is one sexy board, sir. Good job. Already finished wiring and programming? Let's see the guts of that baby.

Thank you for the compliment! I've completely wired the matrix (I'll post some pictures tonight), but I want to do some experiments with the controller, so I am going to wire the matrix to headers so I can try a bunch of different stuff. In the interests of not hijacking this thread, I'll split this off later, but in short, I am testing this (https://www.adafruit.com/product/2661) so I can build a Bluetooth PCB.

BTW, did your standoffs work well? The holes in my old Ortho board are nearly the same diameter of the standoffs, so they want to sink in/tilt.
My standoffs worked perfectly, because the holes were perfectly M2-sized (thanks to jackhumbert!)
Awesome, please report back on the bluetooth efforts, been thinking about something similar. Is there a build log for this board?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:26:29
Not a good picture, but it's late and I'm tired. I love the set! Thank you Matt3o, BunnyLake,  and codyeatworld!

(My ergodox kit didn't make it, and I'll like the space row better once I make some swaps.)

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/5ddf5001ddb0013de388aed382695499.jpg)


That is one sexy board, sir. Good job. Already finished wiring and programming? Let's see the guts of that baby.

Thank you for the compliment! I've completely wired the matrix (I'll post some pictures tonight), but I want to do some experiments with the controller, so I am going to wire the matrix to headers so I can try a bunch of different stuff. In the interests of not hijacking this thread, I'll split this off later, but in short, I am testing this (https://www.adafruit.com/product/2661) so I can build a Bluetooth PCB.

BTW, did your standoffs work well? The holes in my old Ortho board are nearly the same diameter of the standoffs, so they want to sink in/tilt.
My standoffs worked perfectly, because the holes were perfectly M2-sized (thanks to jackhumbert!)
Awesome, please report back on the bluetooth efforts, been thinking about something similar. Is there a build log for this board?
Not yet, but I'll post one when it's done. I may ditch the bonus keys on the left side for version 2 (even though I like them (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71636.msg1746326#msg1746326)), so it fits in a standard Poker case. I'd like a more finished look.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:29:40
Woot! Got mine today, and that was incredibly fast shipping both on CtrlAlt and USPS!

Haven't had a chance to open the caps and can't until tonight, but one question:

I took over someone's order of the Burgundy and Burgundy Numpad, and wondered if anyone who ordered the numpad too got their sets placed in one bag. I got just one bag and, after about ten seconds of turning it over, didn't spot any numpad keys. Is everything supposed to come in only one bag?
Again, I'm going to take a better look tonight, but wanted to know before I started getting worried.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:37:07
Woot! Got mine today, and that was incredibly fast shipping both on CtrlAlt and USPS!

Haven't had a chance to open the caps and can't until tonight, but one question:

I took over someone's order of the Burgundy and Burgundy Numpad, and wondered if anyone who ordered the numpad too got their sets placed in one bag. I got just one bag and, after about ten seconds of turning it over, didn't spot any numpad keys. Is everything supposed to come in only one bag?
Again, I'm going to take a better look tonight, but wanted to know before I started getting worried.

if you took over someones order, that isnt attached to your account, so we would have no way to know to combine orders

instead, the person who made the original order, will get a shipping notice when it is sent
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:39:16
Woot! Got mine today, and that was incredibly fast shipping both on CtrlAlt and USPS!

Haven't had a chance to open the caps and can't until tonight, but one question:

I took over someone's order of the Burgundy and Burgundy Numpad, and wondered if anyone who ordered the numpad too got their sets placed in one bag. I got just one bag and, after about ten seconds of turning it over, didn't spot any numpad keys. Is everything supposed to come in only one bag?
Again, I'm going to take a better look tonight, but wanted to know before I started getting worried.

if you took over someones order, that isnt attached to your account, so we would have no way to know to combine orders

instead, the person who made the original order, will get a shipping notice when it is sent

Sorry, that was confusing. I took over someone's entire order, which was the Burgundy Set and Burgundy Numpad, but unfortunately it seems I received only the Burgundy set, no numpad. I'm going to check again tonight to confirm, as well as contact the person from whom I took over.

Edit:
Sneaked away for a few minutes. Spilled out the bag, and there's definitely no numpad. Contacted the person who made the original order just to make sure both were ordered.
In the mean time, this is my first full SA set and it's absolutely gorgeous. The colors are far more pleasing to the eye in person.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Loligagger on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:47:03
Got mine the day before, but only had the chance to take a pic now. The tall profile is pretty great with the full hand case.

Oh and the caps themselves are gorgeous.  :cool:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:48:34
Got mine the day before, but only had the chance to take a pic now. The tall profile is pretty great with the full hand case.

Oh and the caps themselves are gorgeous.  :cool:

(Attachment Link)

Is "S" upside down?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Loligagger on Fri, 18 September 2015, 15:49:29
Got mine the day before, but only had the chance to take a pic now. The tall profile is pretty great with the full hand case.

Oh and the caps themselves are gorgeous.  :cool:

(Attachment Link)

Is "S" upside down?

Oops, yes it is. Time to flip a cap.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 18 September 2015, 16:26:51
Woot! Got mine today, and that was incredibly fast shipping both on CtrlAlt and USPS!

Haven't had a chance to open the caps and can't until tonight, but one question:

I took over someone's order of the Burgundy and Burgundy Numpad, and wondered if anyone who ordered the numpad too got their sets placed in one bag. I got just one bag and, after about ten seconds of turning it over, didn't spot any numpad keys. Is everything supposed to come in only one bag?
Again, I'm going to take a better look tonight, but wanted to know before I started getting worried.

if you took over someones order, that isnt attached to your account, so we would have no way to know to combine orders

instead, the person who made the original order, will get a shipping notice when it is sent

Sorry, that was confusing. I took over someone's entire order, which was the Burgundy Set and Burgundy Numpad, but unfortunately it seems I received only the Burgundy set, no numpad. I'm going to check again tonight to confirm, as well as contact the person from whom I took over.

Edit:
Sneaked away for a few minutes. Spilled out the bag, and there's definitely no numpad. Contacted the person who made the original order just to make sure both were ordered.
In the mean time, this is my first full SA set and it's absolutely gorgeous. The colors are far more pleasing to the eye in person.

shoot me their order number via pm, and ill look in to it
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:05:58
BTW, did your standoffs work well? The holes in my old Ortho board are nearly the same diameter of the standoffs, so they want to sink in/tilt.
My standoffs worked perfectly, because the holes were perfectly M2-sized (thanks to jackhumbert!)

My standoffs and plates came from Jack too, but I was an early adopter. He must have sorted that out.

I'm hoping to make a smart board as well, I'll be eager to check out your thread. Bluetooth would be nice, since I have the parts for a split board, & no wires would be legit.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:10:38
The burgundy mods are what make this set interesting. The all-brown look works great for 60% boards but is too much brown for anything larger IMO.

Unless you have a tan case... :cool:

I really want to start using this set, but I'd rather not put these keys on a black board which is all I currently have available. The 1976 doesn't look very charming on a black board. It sorta ruins the effect.

I'm seriously considering giving my CODE a spray-tan.

It's really too bad they are so hard to open. A big minus in my opinion, especially for a keyboard with a daughterboard PCB that is just begging to be swapped.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 18 September 2015, 19:45:50
I really want to start using this set, but I'd rather not put these keys on a black board which is all I currently have available. The 1976 doesn't look very charming on a black board. It sorta ruins the effect.

I'm seriously considering giving my CODE a spray-tan.

Did you know during that time period many (me included) wished for all Black Keyboards instead of the pedestrian beige/cream garbage that was readily available?

Time to grow up sunshine, all black keyboards are here to stay and would rather stay with that standard colour than the glaucoma creams and other nauseous colours of the late 70's and early 80's.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:14:10
If you aren't interested in a retro scheme, perhaps you're in the wrong thread ;)

Different colors match different colors. Black has its place.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: atectatifern on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:35:45
Do some of the orders have yet to ship, or should I be freaking out?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 18 September 2015, 21:44:23
If you aren't interested in a retro scheme, perhaps you're in the wrong thread ;)

Different colors match different colors. Black has its place.

What's the colour of the keyboard got to do with the colours of this KEY-SET?

Either you've got something wrong with your own colour perception or you hate the darker shade in some way.  Retro looks great in any Black coloured keyboard and in fact looks great, with any other colour as well.

Maybe your hatred towards anything "BLACK" has to do with your own discrimination towards anything being in that colour and we all have to ask why would that be?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: snapdarty on Fri, 18 September 2015, 23:18:17
Maybe your hatred towards anything "BLACK" has to do with your own discrimination towards anything being in that colour and we all have to ask why would that be?

Reaching.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: romevi on Fri, 18 September 2015, 23:19:40
Maybe your hatred towards anything "BLACK" has to do with your own discrimination towards anything being in that colour and we all have to ask why would that be?

Reaching.

It's Elrick.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sat, 19 September 2015, 02:03:33
I really want to start using this set, but I'd rather not put these keys on a black board which is all I currently have available. The 1976 doesn't look very charming on a black board. It sorta ruins the effect.

I'm seriously considering giving my CODE a spray-tan.

Did you know during that time period many (me included) wished for all Black Keyboards instead of the pedestrian beige/cream garbage that was readily available?

Time to grow up sunshine, all black keyboards are here to stay and would rather stay with that standard colour than the glaucoma creams and other nauseous colours of the late 70's and early 80's.
I remember being excited when my family got a black keyboard it meant we had finally updated to something with an rgb screen.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheSoundofTyping on Sat, 19 September 2015, 04:19:44
Hi everyone, I'm new to the whole group-buy thing as a whole, so I'm sorry if this is a very annoying question - will this ever be on sale again?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sat, 19 September 2015, 04:35:52
nope this set was a single run only .. - you can still get it IF you are lucky and somebody actualy sells it .. but i fear it will have a higher price point due to the rarity and the amazing look !
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 19 September 2015, 04:39:49
there might be some spares, hold tight and keep an eye to this thread.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 19 September 2015, 06:26:10
In that case spares should be priced 10-20% higher as a courtesy to those who had to pay early and wait to get it. And no, I did not pay early and wait to get it, I'm gagging for an extra set, but I should have to pay extra.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheSoundofTyping on Sat, 19 September 2015, 06:28:40
Thanks, I definitely will.  It seems like I just missed out on a whole load of retro/SA keys lately!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 19 September 2015, 06:57:17
i do have some limited extras, but im going to wait until all the orders are sent otu to list them

they will be gb price, no extra percentage will be added on
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 19 September 2015, 07:11:04
I have been kicking myself since this went down. But I'd rather someone new get into the SA game. Good on Matt3o and Bunny for floating some extras. These sets look amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: RabRhee on Sat, 19 September 2015, 09:21:18
Thanks everyone, Matt3o, Bunny, Cody, and all who helped. Here's a picture in standard QFR Dvorak.  (with F11 not pushed down enough :D) Not to everyones taste apparently but I like how the retro is with a basic black case.

[attachimg=1]

And one minor problem, I have two 'comma, less than' keys on the standard True Retro set, and no 'dot, more than' key. Not major as it isn't currently in use, but would be an annoyance if I ever decide to use it on a heathen's board.

[attachimg=2]

Thanks again all, very pleased.

(edited because I referred to the missing/duplicate keys as left and right commas, I can only blame insomnia :))
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Sat, 19 September 2015, 12:32:16
i do have some limited extras, but im going to wait until all the orders are sent otu to list them

they will be gb price, no extra percentage will be added on

That's good to hear. I participated in the GB (got my set yesterday and I love it!) but I'm regretting not going for PETSCII. If there end up being extra PETSCII sets for sale, I will probably pick one up.

Dan
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Sat, 19 September 2015, 12:35:56
Oh, and here's mine on a KUL with the white case. I think the black KBs look fine, but I do prefer the contrasting look of this set with a lighter-colored case :)

[attach=1]

Oh god messy desk so embarrassing. Too busy at work to take better photos :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sat, 19 September 2015, 15:33:02
Well I guess add me to the boat of people that are having/had trouble with the post office. Checked tracking and my package was scanned out of Oakland at 9pm on the 17th with item is currently in transit to destination, mind you I live 6 hours south. So I went to the post office in long beach today to inquire since it still doesn't show an eta for my package just that it left the facility two days ago. The postal clerk looked it up and said that it was odd that it hadn't hit LA or LB yet but that they couldn't do anything about it. I was instructed to call Oakland to try and figure out what is going on with the package.Not a very happy camper at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ideus on Sat, 19 September 2015, 15:34:33
Oh, and here's mine on a KUL with the white case. I think the black KBs look fine, but I do prefer the contrasting look of this set with a lighter-colored case :)

(Attachment Link)

Oh god messy desk so embarrassing. Too busy at work to take better photos :)

The keyboard looks very nice thank you for sharing, and your mess desk as well.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: shrubkeys on Sat, 19 September 2015, 19:34:32
Wasn't trying to contribute to the keyboard race war. :p (I, too, remember when beige was boring. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beige_box)) Darker browns just tend to better complement warm or muted tones. Keyset looks great, regardless.

On an unrelated note, I just noticed that my charge looks like this:
 
$290.16

Subtotal $264.00
Shipping $13.00
Donation $2.00

Probably should have noticed that a few months ago. Anyone else have problems with their total?


Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 19 September 2015, 19:40:09
Wasn't trying to contribute to the keyboard race war. :p (I, too, remember when beige was boring. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beige_box)) Darker browns just tend to better complement warm or muted tones. Keyset looks great, regardless.

On an unrelated note, I just noticed that my charge looks like this:
 
$290.16

Subtotal $264.00
Shipping $13.00
Donation $2.00

Probably should have noticed that a few months ago. Anyone else have problems with their total?



everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Sat, 19 September 2015, 20:39:34

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sat, 19 September 2015, 21:19:14

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

I guessing they yolo'd it as there is currently nothing you can buy on the sight  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Sun, 20 September 2015, 00:21:38

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

I guessing they yolo'd it as there is currently nothing you can buy on the sight  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still not a web dev, but I'm pretty certain there's a thing you can set up called a "testing environment" or a "test site"
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 20 September 2015, 00:27:37

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

I guessing they yolo'd it as there is currently nothing you can buy on the sight  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still not a web dev, but I'm pretty certain there's a thing you can set up called a "testing environment" or a "test site"

I'm sure they'll thank you for your "constructive criticism" and "knowledge" on the topic.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Rainbow_ on Sun, 20 September 2015, 00:36:12

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

I guessing they yolo'd it as there is currently nothing you can buy on the sight  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still not a web dev, but I'm pretty certain there's a thing you can set up called a "testing environment" or a "test site"

I'm sure they'll thank you for your "constructive criticism" and "knowledge" on the topic.

I do program things, and I know that you're not supposed to push test things to the consumers.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Sun, 20 September 2015, 02:39:42
correct not supposed .. but i guess they dont have a dev stage and go with what they have .. no harm done ..

regardless its not best practice i agree .. yet .. nobody is realy "affected" due to no current sales ..

happens all the time + cut them some slack .. its not a company which can afford a dev team to take care about infra / deployments
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 20 September 2015, 03:12:45
you guys are talking like we are making money out of this...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flamf on Sun, 20 September 2015, 04:53:20

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

I guessing they yolo'd it as there is currently nothing you can buy on the sight  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still not a web dev, but I'm pretty certain there's a thing you can set up called a "testing environment" or a "test site"

I'm sure they'll thank you for your "constructive criticism" and "knowledge" on the topic.

I do program things, and I know that you're not supposed to push test things to the consumers.

I refuse the label 'consumer'.
I'd accept 'lover'
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 20 September 2015, 05:39:25

everyone will right now, the total will be higher than you paid

basically we were playing with some code to add on payment fees to orders

so that is showing on every order right now, however, you were only charged the correct amount

but right now on the site itll show the total as being 4% more i think

just ignore that

I'm no web dev, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to just throw test code into your site

while you are being so critical

i guess ill explain my point better

we were testing it live

we added it for the cherokey gb, after testing it in a test environment, and its worked perfectly

what it did do is add fees on to the totals of all orders, and we will correct that, however as we will never run a gb on that site and platform again, it hasnt been a priority to us as we are about to move everything over to the new site

this isnt a business, we made the site because i basically hate using google docs

the added fees werent there at time of order, they werent there on your payment, and they werent there during the duration of this buy, they have been on there for a week or so since the cherokee gb

it was something we only just noticed, and its on a list of things to sort out, however as it doesnt effect anyone in anyway, it is a low priority

as matteo says, its not like we are making money on this, and im sure matteo will be happy to confirm, but i actually took a hit on some kits, purposefully charging less for some kits to encourage the purchase of some of the more irregular kits, so the prices werent super lob sided

we even went as far as ordering kits that only about 5 were ordered, when the MOQ is 25 with sp





Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 20 September 2015, 06:54:01
as matteo says, its not like we are making money on this, and im sure matteo will be happy to confirm, but i actually took a hit on some kits, purposefully charging less for some kits to encourage the purchase of some of the more irregular kits, so the prices werent super lob sided

we even went as far as ordering kits that only about 5 were ordered, when the MOQ is 25 with sp

Always the uninformed and downright distrustful always seem to think that they would screw anyone the same way, it would be done to them.  Unfortunately you are dealing with CTRL/ALT perhaps the MOST honest of all groups that envision and develop rare key-sets for the hard-core collector.

The down side in those tiny, distrustful minds is that after being so starved of faith and belief within their fellow man they do not believe in anyone doing anything NICE or to be even DECENT in everyday life.  BUT BunnyLake is the LAST one left out of all of us that gives a toss for those that have been done wrong.  He will always do everything within his power to brighten someone's day because he represents the absolute best of what we all could be.

The young ones like to type furiously about their unfair treatment quickly but Bunny has to read thousands of emails and answer each one appropriately.  That will always take an enormous amount of time, yet he spends it here on Geekhack letting everyone know what's happening.  Again, no one is paying him for his time yet he is here making a Group Buy pass along smoothly despite problems that might occur along the way.

In the end have a little trust and patience because he is working on your problem as fast as he can.  Remember he is NOT a robot nor a machine, so a little politeness and decency shown in the beginning, will reap huge rewards for you in the end (basic Old-man advice to the Young and Impatient).
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 20 September 2015, 09:30:43
I'll never understand why people expect CTRL[ALT] and others on GH to operate like some mythical combination of Google and Amazon. Do you think they're making millions in this very niche mech market? If we're not careful, we'll burn out people like Bunny, Matt3o, and Cody, and the community here will wither away. Please think before you criticise.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Sun, 20 September 2015, 11:30:11
I think it's because the (current) CTRL[ALT] website actually looks professional, better than *a lot* of websites of actual online stores. So if one doesn't know it's not an actual business but a kind of community initiative, it's kinda deceiving.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 20 September 2015, 11:52:11
*cough* Filco...
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: neverused on Sun, 20 September 2015, 12:06:23
I think it's because the (current) CTRL[ALT] website actually looks professional, better than *a lot* of websites of actual online stores. So if one doesn't know it's not an actual business but a kind of community initiative, it's kinda deceiving.
I don't know if I would say "deceiving" so much as those making that assumption are ignorant and rude. There is no deception on ctrl alt's end.
But I will agree, the site looks great and professional.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: flabbergast on Sun, 20 September 2015, 12:30:47
Yea, sorry, <insert the usual english not my first language lame excuse>. I didn't mean that the CTRL[ALT] team tries to deceive anyone. Maybe the word I was looking for is deceptive/misleading? Again, no ill intent on the CTRL[ALT] side implied, of course they try to make look and work the best way possible ;)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: chromatically on Sun, 20 September 2015, 13:12:18
first SA set... typing on it now. really enjoying it.
thanks to matt3o and ctrl alt
(http://i.imgur.com/nfsHFrC.jpg)
sorry for poop phone pic
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 20 September 2015, 13:48:57
Yea, sorry, <insert the usual english not my first language lame excuse>. I didn't mean that the CTRL[ALT] team tries to deceive anyone. Maybe the word I was looking for is deceptive/misleading? Again, no ill intent on the CTRL[ALT] side implied, of course they try to make look and work the best way possible ;)
Confusing. The word is confusing.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:58:40
On a different (happier) note, I made myself a custom SA Retro USB cord.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/20/602e87161c0bdd127a174ead30b66416.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 20 September 2015, 18:46:22
On a different (happier) note, I made myself a custom SA Retro USB cord.

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/20/602e87161c0bdd127a174ead30b66416.jpg)


A Retro Cable, talk about an enthusiast here.  Good show, what - we have another individual that has decided to go and create his perfect keyboard and connecting cable.

This is what Geekhack should always be, a place to inspire and push others to join the Mechanical Keyboard Brigade.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Sun, 20 September 2015, 20:33:03
On a different (happier) note, I made myself a custom SA Retro USB cord.

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/20/602e87161c0bdd127a174ead30b66416.jpg)


A Retro Cable, talk about an enthusiast here.  Good show, what - we have another individual that has decided to go and create his perfect keyboard and connecting cable.

This is what Geekhack should always be, a place to inspire and push others to join the Mechanical Keyboard Brigade.

We are keygion!........meh I'll work on it.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 September 2015, 01:46:53
nobody noticed a small difference with DSA Retro yet
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Pemdas on Mon, 21 September 2015, 04:08:23
nobody noticed a small difference with DSA Retro yet

Is it "backspace" vs "back space"?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: simbloke on Mon, 21 September 2015, 04:15:40
Since there's been no ISO pic yet I thought I'd share mine.  The silver/grey of the QFR gives it a bit of a different look.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/21/81f7cb79fa6832cdcaeeaf62ace144ec.jpg)

Despite the minimal updates from USPS the package arrived in less than a week with no problems at all Thanks to all involved 🏼
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 21 September 2015, 05:38:06
nobody noticed a small difference with DSA Retro yet

Smaller Commodore symbols. Burgundy mods have "SHIFT LOCK" instead of "CAPS LOCK". And "BACKSPACE" on all instead of "BACK SPACE".

Also: It's a different profile? It's semi-matte instead of matte? Sculptured instead of "flat"?
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 September 2015, 06:17:30
Smaller Commodore symbols.

This!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 21 September 2015, 08:05:14
no meta key :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: bubbedi on Mon, 21 September 2015, 08:24:25
The smaller size really made me happy. I was not sure whether or not to use them, seeing the DSA set. With the shrink, even tho i didnt realize it at first, the keys just fit in so well. Well played Matt3o!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 21 September 2015, 08:32:53
The smaller size really made me happy. I was not sure whether or not to use them, seeing the DSA set. With the shrink, even tho i didnt realize it at first, the keys just fit in so well. Well played Matt3o!

Agreed, they really look like the originals now and it suits the set beautifully.

Still waiting for my customs notification, but I know it's on its way, so no worries.

@TheCowGod: they look lovely on a light coloured board! But your board seems to have acquired an interesting medical condition... inverted colon.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: TheCowGod on Mon, 21 September 2015, 08:49:07
@TheCowGod: they look lovely on a light coloured board! But your board seems to have acquired an interesting medical condition... inverted colon.

Haha, oh dear. That poor thing. Fixed, thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: jerue on Mon, 21 September 2015, 09:59:17
On a different (happier) note, I made myself a custom SA Retro USB cord.

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/20/602e87161c0bdd127a174ead30b66416.jpg)


This is awesome! I am a little sad I did not get in on this buy especially with the PETSCII alphas, they look fantastic. Great board (and cable!) you have there :)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: fliptrik on Mon, 21 September 2015, 10:19:10
Shoooooooooot. I got my set and they are beautiful! My only issue is that I somehow didn't pick up the Burgundy Numpad set..  :(

If anyone has an extra one or doesn't need their's anymore, I'll be happy to take it off your hands!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 21 September 2015, 11:42:11
My only issue is that I somehow didn't pick up the Burgundy Numpad set..  :(

Welcome to the club...

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: PicklesKill on Mon, 21 September 2015, 14:10:23
Supposedly mine is delivered I got a string of notifications arrived at facility, arrived at lb, sorted, out for deliv, delivered in a span of 20 min. So either I have Americas greatest group of postal workers or somebody forgot about my package and realized they never updated tracking. Smfh
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BlueSebba on Mon, 21 September 2015, 14:45:49
Misprint I guess?
(https://my.mixtape.moe/unxaej.jpg)

From the International DE-NO-SE set, supposed to be:
(https://my.mixtape.moe/hoxpxt.png)

Edit:

Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 21 September 2015, 16:17:32
Misprint I guess?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/unxaej.jpg)


From the International DE-NO-SE set, supposed to be:
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/hoxpxt.png)

Oh no... I hope not all DE-NO-SE sets have the same misprint. Still waiting for mine to be delivered.

Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 21 September 2015, 20:19:07


Great board (and cable!) you have there :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 21 September 2015, 20:40:36
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 21 September 2015, 20:51:00
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..

SP doesn't have the molds for big R4 shift keys. So all SA sets from them had R3  :(


In other news, I have THREE missed parcel tickets today. Pretty sure it's the CtrlAlt motherload about to be dropped on me   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BlueSebba on Mon, 21 September 2015, 20:56:28
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..

SP doesn't have the molds for big R4 shift keys. So all SA sets from them had R3  :(

Would've been nice to know that before I dropped almost 300 bucks in caps from this groupbuy.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: Cafeine on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:00:54
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..

SP doesn't have the molds for big R4 shift keys. So all SA sets from them had R3  :(

Would've been nice to know that before I dropped almost 300 bucks in caps from this groupbuy.


It was mentioned quite a few times... :/
In OTHER NEWS, my set is HOME but TOO MUCH WORK to put them on my only MX board atm, a Minila. Meh. :/ 
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:04:53
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..

SP doesn't have the molds for big R4 shift keys. So all SA sets from them had R3  :(

Would've been nice to know that before I dropped almost 300 bucks in caps from this groupbuy.

This is the 17th post in the thread, on the very first page:

In base kit, the "shift"s are R3 and in Mods "shift"s are R4?

yes.


...Some of the kits that have been asked in the IC phase need really a lot of love (such as the intl kits, dvorak, apple, ...).


Hopefully the combined layout package will up the chances for it to tip. Even though all I need is the colemak caps, I'm very pleased with your decision of a combined kit.
Will you provide status here whether kit got the love it deserves or not?

I will!
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: pkircher on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:05:53
question is how much the mold would cost .. i suspect somewhere around 3-7k usd ..

if there is plenty interrest for R4 2.25 but that would require cross finance over multiple GB's and i fear SP is not going to prefinance it

+ 300 bucks is a average order .. nothing out of the ordinary and not realy hard to get .. loads of us spend 500-1000 or even more
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: BlueSebba on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:11:14
Quote
Also seems like my shift cap is the wrong profile or am I missing something?
Show Image
(https://my.mixtape.moe/ywjlxd.jpg)


that looks like a pro mods R3 shift ..

SP doesn't have the molds for big R4 shift keys. So all SA sets from them had R3  :(

Would've been nice to know that before I dropped almost 300 bucks in caps from this groupbuy.


It was mentioned quite a few times... :/
In OTHER NEWS, my set is HOME but TOO MUCH WORK to put them on my only MX board atm, a Minila. Meh. :/

I saw no mention of this when I purchased it, albeit I didn't lounge around here and read every post, but when I see a product picture defining a cap as R4 when I was purchasing, I truly did think I was actually getting what I ordered.

+ 300 bucks is a average order .. nothing out of the ordinary and not realy hard to get .. loads of us spend 500-1000 or even more

What other people spend is not of my concern, what my concern is is that I spent what I believe is a large sum of money for a set that is flawed, not even taking into consideration the misprinted period/colon cap.
Title: Re: [GB] SA Retro
Post by: blastoid on Mon, 2