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Title: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:34:47
totaly 133 key will be look like this layout.
[attachimg=13]
After Ivan's operation, he got no time to handle the GB now, So I'd do it myself. 
As a vernder, I can not post thread on the GB forum, hope anybody can help me to tell the others....:P
 this is the round 4, 133keys, almost fit all the keyboards.
75$ for world wide shipping.

normal 104
PLUS--》 winkeyless set (1.5x4,7x*1) + 6x +ISO set(ISO enter, R2 |\ ) + extra F&J + windowed keys(capslock x2, Numlock,ScrollLock)

layout
Russian(Cyrillic),    Irish(USIntl) ,   Ural,   Desko(Orange & red),   Miami,   Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft,  Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese,Danish, Norwegian ......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)

All the layout might exist tiny changes if needed, so we will try make all the stuff be perfect.

If anybody got other suggestions about more layouts plz send mails to me   imsto@msn.com   
I may try make it possiable.

there's also some images from last GB   here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.1000 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.1000)

 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15.    the procuding will start when all the orders are clear, should need few weeks for the producing, then shipping.

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
order here   http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=115 (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=115)

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(http://imsto.cn/image/data/round4/1.jpg)
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hi guys, now has a very bad news.
Gateron (or Enjoypbt ) unilaterally terminated our cooperation. So now the GB round4 was forced to change into the 117 layout.

Here, I would like to say that I am very sorry to get the situlation.

If you still want the keys then you will get the keycaps and 7$ refund.
or I may make the full refund.
So,  do not worry about your money,  if you need a full refund, please send a mail to imsto@msn.com.
Title please use like this: GB Round4***** *****Refund

This happens out of my plan, so I am ready to make the molds and the cap myself, hope to be able to provide nice stuff for the enthusiast.
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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:37:01
125keys
normal 104
PLUS--》 winkeyless set (1.5x4,7x*1) + 6x +ISO set(ISO enter, R2 |\ ) + extra F&J + windowed keys(capslock x2, Numlock,ScrollLock)

layout
Russian    Irish     Desko    Aurebesh(StarWar)
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Images later

WHAT!?

How about Peacock?

And BSP again, right?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:39:52
Ouf... I was looking at the prior ones. Definitely going to get one
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ika on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:41:29
price?

hnnggg desko... and I recently decided I need trampoline mod supplies. bad news for wallet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:42:39
Oh boy. Definitely following this one.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:48:56
Interested in a set  ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:49:46
Cyrillic and Desko definitely!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: KatzenKinder on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:50:13
NICE NICE
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Karura on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:51:46
1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)

3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)

3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:53:47
Yep.. interested.

Edit - thought it was for BSP. NVM!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: MEEPhouse on Wed, 17 February 2016, 20:55:43
Following this. Interested for sure!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:01:37
1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Karura on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:02:49
1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Thanks imsto for answering!

Yeah, 1800 very important now, Red Desko is interesting.

You know 23 in Hammer Club - he has 3000SAT, maybe you can borrow to see.

Gateron is okay, good compatibility.

Edit: Also imsto one more question, have you considered doing Blue Russian/Cyrillic?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:10:23
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:11:34
Oh, okay. Rats. I was hoping BSP. Will wait for that to order a Desko set, but I may still pick up the Aurebesh set from here.

Also, Karura, since this is Gateron why not go with Shadovved's GB? He already has blue/cyan Cyrillic.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:12:32
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?

BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT. Gateron is a fairly new company based in China. Gateron is very good for the price.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:13:24
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?

BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT. Gateron is a fairly new company based in China. Gateron is very good for the price.

But durability/feel wise BSP is king?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:14:56
Noob question. From what I've read so far... Gateron and BSP are both PBT keycap manufacturers. What's the main difference between them?

BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT. Gateron is a fairly new company based in China. Gateron is very good for the price.

But durability/feel wise BSP is king?

Yes, BSP is king in the PBT world. Well, besides OG Cherry. ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:15:15
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT.
I keep saying this.. They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed. All the moulds differ from the originals in some way and there are some big, bad differences too : no scooped f/j, the right shift is completely ****ed up, no spacebar, stems have been reported as wonky sometimes.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ika on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:15:15
Some comparison pictures for reference: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74405.msg2024804#msg2024804

Significantly less enthused to find out it's Gateron PBT-based. It will definitely bring the price down, but the sharpness of IMSTO dyesubs are part of the draw.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:17:02
hey imsto, how about miami odessa and japanese, please? :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:17:24
BSP is a European country that owns the original Cherry tooling for PBT.
I keep saying this.. They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed. All the moulds differ from the originals in some way and there are some big, bad differences too : no scooped f/j, the right shift is completely ****ed up, no spacebar, stems have been reported as wonky sometimes.

Who stated, then, that BSP owns the original molds? What did they do regarding the missing molds?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:26:06
Who stated, then, that BSP owns the original molds? What did they do regarding the missing molds?
I have no idea who first said it. I just know they did not have any proven facts behind them. At this moment in time we have no idea what truly happened to the original Cherry dyesub PBT moulds. All we know is :

1. While BSP utilizes the same profile and a very similar underside, there are small differences on the underside of BSP keycaps that distinguish them from original Cherry ones.
2. There are some keycaps that are either missing entirely or are very obviously different : BSP F/J have nipples instead of scoops, BSP offers no spacebars, BSPs right shift is too short, more thin and has a really prominent curve compared to the original - it looks really terrible.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:41:42
Japanese set please :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:51:20
Who stated, then, that BSP owns the original molds? What did they do regarding the missing molds?
I have no idea who first said it. I just know they did not have any proven facts behind them. At this moment in time we have no idea what truly happened to the original Cherry dyesub PBT moulds. All we know is :

1. While BSP utilizes the same profile and a very similar underside, there are small differences on the underside of BSP keycaps that distinguish them from original Cherry ones.
2. There are some keycaps that are either missing entirely or are very obviously different : BSP F/J have nipples instead of scoops, BSP offers no spacebars, BSPs right shift is too short, more thin and has a really prominent curve compared to the original - it looks really terrible.

I'm not too familiar with molds and tooling, but could it be possible that they did inheret the original parts, and that the mold for the right Shift somehow got damaged, the space bar parts were lost, and they made new molds or altered the originals for the F/J?
Just speculating (and playing devil's advocate).

How do the tops appear next to original Cherry caps? I also would like to add that, if BSP owns original parts, defects also could be a result of wear and age.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:56:44
I'm not too familiar with molds and tooling, but could it be possible that they did inheret the original parts, and that the mold for the right Shift somehow got damaged, the space bar parts were lost, and they made new molds or altered the originals for the F/J?
Just speculating (and playing devil's advocate).

How do the tops appear next to original Cherry caps? I also would like to add that, if BSP owns original parts, defects also could be a result of wear and age.
Yeah, as I said, that is possible too :

They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed.

We just can't say for certain that BSP keycaps are made from the original Cherry moulds, and if they are they have certainly been modified and some of the keycaps are not the same at all.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:57:12
Classic beige with blue hangul sub legends would look amazing!
It was done before and you can see it on one of Vesper's builds.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:04:45
I'm not too familiar with molds and tooling, but could it be possible that they did inheret the original parts, and that the mold for the right Shift somehow got damaged, the space bar parts were lost, and they made new molds or altered the originals for the F/J?
Just speculating (and playing devil's advocate).

How do the tops appear next to original Cherry caps? I also would like to add that, if BSP owns original parts, defects also could be a result of wear and age.
Yeah, as I said, that is possible too :

They're either not the original or some moulds have been lost and the remaining moulds have been changed.

We just can't say for certain that BSP keycaps are made from the original Cherry moulds, and if they are they have certainly been modified and some of the keycaps are not the same at all.

What's your personal conclusion regarding BSP compared to original Cherry dyesubs, "lost" pieces notwithstanding?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:19:55
What's your personal conclusion regarding BSP compared to original Cherry dyesubs, "lost" pieces notwithstanding?
I haven't tried a full set before so I can't properly comment. I did have an RGB set though and iirc the texture was not anywhere near as nice as original Cherry. Texture is my favourite thing about Cherry dyesubs.. it's perfect.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:21:16
Japanese set please :)

+1

Really want one for my MX boards.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:24:22
What's your personal conclusion regarding BSP compared to original Cherry dyesubs, "lost" pieces notwithstanding?
I haven't tried a full set before so I can't properly comment. I did have an RGB set though and iirc the texture was not anywhere near as nice as original Cherry. Texture is my favourite thing about Cherry dyesubs.. it's perfect.

BSP feels terrible compared to Cherry OG, I think Gateron feels better to that regard. At least its not topre.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:25:47
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:26:45
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 18 February 2016, 00:08:51
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.

katakana is for foreign words, right?  do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?

i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back.  it was quite pretty.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Thu, 18 February 2016, 00:45:16
1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Thanks imsto for answering!

Yeah, 1800 very important now, Red Desko is interesting.

You know 23 in Hammer Club - he has 3000SAT, maybe you can borrow to see.

Gateron is okay, good compatibility.

Edit: Also imsto one more question, have you considered doing Blue Russian/Cyrillic?

I know 23, I will try get make it.   Blue russian will be done. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:00:08
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.

katakana is for foreign words, right?  do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?

i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back.  it was quite pretty.

Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:06:42
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.

katakana is for foreign words, right?  do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?

i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back.  it was quite pretty.

Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese

how about the last version of the Japanese layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:08:39
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.

katakana is for foreign words, right?  do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?

i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back.  it was quite pretty.

Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese

how about the last version of the Japanese layout?

Very good but the font was thin for the english letters, but I think that's fine and adds to the modern style haha. Maybe the mod legends can be changed (like cherry original font size)?

I think you should run Japanese set as it was probably the one of the most popular after pictures were released from IVAN's gb.


But if Cherry original font is possible on all keys, then I think it would be even better :). But I think Modern font on Japanese set was interesting.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:10:46
Japanese set please :)

What Japanese would you want?
There is hirigana and katakana which are both very different aesthetically.

Think hirigana is more often used :x. Katakana would be interesting but personally hirigana is a lot prettier.

katakana is for foreign words, right?  do any japanese keyboards have katakana as primary legends?

i just hope imsto can bring back the previous japanese set back.  it was quite pretty.

Yes Katakana is for pronunciation and formality. Hiragana is more basic of course. Hiragana is laid out like pinyin would be for chinese

how about the last version of the Japanese layout?

Very good but the font was thin for the english letters, but I think that's fine and adds to the modern style haha. Maybe the mod legends can be changed (like cherry original font size)?

I think you should run japanese set as it was probably the most popular after pictures were released from IVAN's gb.

i would love to see the japanese set with cherry legends (might be too crowded, though?), but i would be happy with the last version of the Japanese layout.

miami odessa too, please. :)

edit:  oh i just noticed that imsto updated the first post with japanese, miami, and some other sets. :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:11:18
I'll be in for a Desko set at least.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 18 February 2016, 01:14:12
Aurebesh (Star wars)

(http://i.imgur.com/FR0E3aF.gif)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 18 February 2016, 02:30:32
I'll buy at least aurebesh and hiragana layout  :-*
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 18 February 2016, 02:37:36
Interested in another Japanese set as long as it's not identical to pbt4 gb
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Karura on Thu, 18 February 2016, 03:39:51
I know 23, I will try get make it.   Blue russian will be done. 

Great! I look forward to it, and look forward to seeing the images. :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Thu, 18 February 2016, 07:59:58
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 18 February 2016, 08:17:57
In for Irish since I can't seem to find it anywhere
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Thu, 18 February 2016, 08:24:49
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well

Is cute.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Thu, 18 February 2016, 08:26:04
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well

Is cute.

I just realized the first photo didn't have any symbols on the number row but if you see the ducky set it's on there lol
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Thu, 18 February 2016, 09:22:18
Came across this and did some searches. Would anyone be interested in something that looks like this? I know ducky has made them before as well
I used to made the Taiwanese layout, I will try find it out...
Is cute.

I just realized the first photo didn't have any symbols on the number row but if you see the ducky set it's on there lol

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 18 February 2016, 09:26:52
+ISO set(ISO enter, R2 |\ )

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 18 February 2016, 09:29:09
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 18 February 2016, 09:36:24
Imsto,

Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Weltschmerz on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:23:38
Mm so you have time to get a groupbuy going but can't even reply to your customers? :/
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: henz on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:28:35
split right shift + function button would be awesome.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:29:45
Any mockups on the Hangul set(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul)?
Nice to see the Black US one back too :D
Would prolly get either 1. Decisions now!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:31:01
Where do i sign up.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:38:24
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 18 February 2016, 15:47:19
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
Credits: Vesper.  :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: theoriginal123123 on Thu, 18 February 2016, 17:17:08
Interested in the Miami Odessa, but the blue legends look awfully light in the previous sets. Hopefully they can be a bit more substantial this time
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 18 February 2016, 17:26:52
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.
Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

Credits: Vesper.  :)

Seconded, I'd love to see this set come back.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Karura on Fri, 19 February 2016, 00:33:30
imsto, question about the extra F and J:

Are they going to be scooped-only moulds, no bars on it?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 19 February 2016, 02:39:34
imsto, question about the extra F and J:

Are they going to be scooped-only moulds, no bars on it?

I was wondering what the difference is with the extra  F & J also.

Since this is going to be Gateron caps the standard F & J's should have scoops+bars.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 19 February 2016, 03:17:43
whoa, black on white aurebesh.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 19 February 2016, 19:14:34
After Ivan's operation, he got no time to handle the GB now, So I'd do it myself. 
As a vernder, I can not post thread on the GB forum, hope anybody can help me to tell the others....:P

We can add a link to your group buy here in the Vendor Group Buys section:  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57761.0
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 19 February 2016, 19:15:21
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

Oh I love the existing Hangul set myself, specifically for the colorway and the legends.  Been looking to get one.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Baddy126 on Fri, 19 February 2016, 20:58:45
Gonna leave this here to hopefully get more interest since everyone seems to want all the other asian languages
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Fri, 19 February 2016, 22:45:28
Looking forward to this :) Any idea on price?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: sambarugh on Sat, 20 February 2016, 00:48:21
I'm all in for a Miami/Irish set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: nyunyu on Sat, 20 February 2016, 03:45:37
Thanks for adding my desired hungarian layout as option.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Sempre on Sat, 20 February 2016, 05:16:42
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:

Show Image
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)


+1 I would love an Arabic dysub

Also, is there a chance of 75% support?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 20 February 2016, 13:46:18
Love the ISO support!

Interested in Miami Odessa and probably a second set  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: qwack on Sat, 20 February 2016, 15:04:22
What will the purple look like? Like EnjoyPBT's, or a bit more blueish?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: infodroid on Sat, 20 February 2016, 17:59:44
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.

I'd love to see a Miami-Odessa on all-white keycaps. Or with grey (not pebble) modifiers.

Or what about something more radical: IMSTO Dolch.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Karura on Sat, 20 February 2016, 18:08:55
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.

I'd love to see a Miami-Odessa on all-white keycaps. Or with grey (not pebble) modifiers.

Or what about something more radical: IMSTO Dolch.

I would love to see an all-white (which was the original Odessa) Miami-Odessa make a return.

Also, dolch is impossible for imsto pbt. Little crash course lesson for you: PBT is usually dyesubbed, as is with all imsto batches, and you can only dyesub a darker colour onto a lighter colour, so for something like Dolch, ABS doubleshot is your best bet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 20 February 2016, 18:14:10
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.

I'd love to see a Miami-Odessa on all-white keycaps. Or with grey (not pebble) modifiers.

Or what about something more radical: IMSTO Dolch.

I would love to see an all-white (which was the original Odessa) Miami-Odessa make a return.

Also, dolch is impossible for imsto pbt. Little crash course lesson for you: PBT is usually dyesubbed, as is with all imsto batches, and you can only dyesub a darker colour onto a lighter colour, so for something like Dolch, ABS doubleshot is your best bet.

Yeah, abs is your best bet for Dolch but then again, there's was a demand for Dolch awhile back but Ivan sorta fulfill it and then I guess the demand went down so not sure if he's gonna bring it back.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: infodroid on Sat, 20 February 2016, 18:24:40
IMSTO Dolch
Also, dolch is impossible for imsto pbt. Little crash course lesson for you: PBT is usually dyesubbed, as is with all imsto batches, and you can only dyesub a darker colour onto a lighter colour, so for something like Dolch, ABS doubleshot is your best bet.

That makes sense :thumb:. I actually knew that already but didn't remember again until you pointed it out! I think I was overwhelmed by the quality of IMSTO dyesubs and how colorful they are. Made me believe anything is possible.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:06:24
I'm not the biggest fan of cream/pebble keycaps.They look great on vintage Cherry keyboards that usually have beige cases. But don't look as well on newer keyboards with white/silver/black cases.

Say what?    They look good on just about any board.

Although, they do look better some then others.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: gadzkun on Sun, 21 February 2016, 00:23:56
what about the price?.. im already buy RU Orange on shadovved GB.. but man RU Orange in here is much much much more better..  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: justnits on Sun, 21 February 2016, 03:39:25
Imsto,

Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?

+1

i'm wondering about the 1u winkeys as well. previously from ivan's pbt r4 thread it seems that the 1u winkey will follow whatever the 1.25u winkey prints is from the set but it turns out to be just blanks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 21 February 2016, 04:04:44
Imsto,

Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?

+1

i'm wondering about the 1u winkeys as well. previously from ivan's pbt r4 thread it seems that the 1u winkey will follow whatever the 1.25u winkey prints is from the set but it turns out to be just blanks.

I really hope there is the same printing on the 1u winkeys (Especially those Cherries).  I was so excited when it was said that they would be done in Ivan's last GB.  Then only to receive blanks  :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: JazzThing on Sun, 21 February 2016, 04:25:35
I'll probably be in, depending on the price.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: xxxkaliboyxxx on Sun, 21 February 2016, 11:22:50
Ok i'm a little confused since I have never order from IMSTO. Do we order from his website (EN or CN) or do we fill out a form through GH?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: lolpes on Sun, 21 February 2016, 11:29:41
The price seems like it will be 76$ + shipping on his website:

http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=114
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 21 February 2016, 12:41:11
As an ISO user I am very happy with this buy.

I already havge a few of Ivan's sets and would love to get ISO support for them.

Would it be possible to buy the ISO mod kits without having to buy a full set of keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 February 2016, 13:21:38
What about an US International in black for the base legends and blue for the alternate graphics characters?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 21 February 2016, 14:44:08
Would absolutely love a classic white/beige set that includes ISO UK as well extras to cover the Infinity 60% from Massdrop that I'm buying into.

The 60% board here with the yellow cable, just looks so nice: http://imgur.com/a/spgmS
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: dipswitch on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:02:23
I am interested in buying the White/Beige thick PBT Cherry profile dyesub on your website but when I try to add it to cart, I get an error saying that I need to choose a color.
The problem is that it doesn't allow me to choose a color. Is this a bug in the website? Thanks
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: theoriginal123123 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:03:47
Ok i'm a little confused since I have never order from IMSTO. Do we order from his website (EN or CN) or do we fill out a form through GH?

Agreed, I'm also kind of confused. Some clarification would be nice!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:04:42
I don't think the GB is ready yet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: theoriginal123123 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:06:00
I don't think the GB is ready yet.

So essentially this is an Interest Check?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 18:16:19
Definitely will be in for a Miami Odessa and probably an Irish set  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:36:23
Imsto,

Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
yes, just like last time.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:37:08
Mm so you have time to get a groupbuy going but can't even reply to your customers? :/
...... just too busy, answer the question right now   :P
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:37:30
split right shift + function button would be awesome.
a 1.75 shift +  Fn?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:38:25
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.
how about the old hangul set that used to on my site. the blue one, cherry english and red hangul letter.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:39:08
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.
Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

Credits: Vesper.  :)

yes, that's it, one batch for Korea a few months ago.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:41:51
imsto, question about the extra F and J:

Are they going to be scooped-only moulds, no bars on it?
with bars but not sunken ones, you may notice the FJ of the black and the white/beige of last GB is like the POM cherry FJ
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:42:55
whoa, black on white aurebesh.
I supposed to make blue and red ,   seems black is not the best choice.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:43:48
After Ivan's operation, he got no time to handle the GB now, So I'd do it myself. 
As a vernder, I can not post thread on the GB forum, hope anybody can help me to tell the others....:P

We can add a link to your group buy here in the Vendor Group Buys section:  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57761.0

wow  thanks, I never notick it...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:44:30
Thanks for adding my desired hungarian layout as option.
I think there would be more needs from Europe
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:45:28
What will the purple look like? Like EnjoyPBT's, or a bit more blueish?
used made purple keys, not like blue just purple.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:46:55
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.
Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

Credits: Vesper.  :)

yes, that's it, one batch for Korea a few months ago.

So would we be getting the cherry fonts for the Hangul set?  :)
If not, any chance that the set would be remade/reproduced again? 😁
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:48:44
Ok i'm a little confused since I have never order from IMSTO. Do we order from his website (EN or CN) or do we fill out a form through GH?

Agreed, I'm also kind of confused. Some clarification would be nice!
google docs are blocked in China, maybe I will just put the stuff on the site with the group price.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:48:57
I am interested in buying the White/Beige thick PBT Cherry profile dyesub on your website but when I try to add it to cart, I get an error saying that I need to choose a color.
The problem is that it doesn't allow me to choose a color. Is this a bug in the website? Thanks
means ...it's out of stock.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:50:00
Can the hangul set use Cherry font for the primary legends?
I don't like the look of thin legends.

+1.
Something like this would be amazing, clean and sharp.
Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

Credits: Vesper.  :)

yes, that's it, one batch for Korea a few months ago.

Yes this is perfect.
I absolutely adore this set!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 21 February 2016, 21:54:35
Imsto,

Will the Ural 1u winkeys have the orange cherries printed on them in this round?
yes, just like last time.
They will? Awesome.

In Ivan's R4 PBT the 1u winkeys didn't have the cherries printed on them :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:15:15
I don't think the GB is ready yet.

So essentially this is an Interest Check?

no it's not an Interest check, the price will not be more than last time.
just want to check what's the layout will be done.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:21:41
Something with Greek legends would also be really amazing!
(http://i.imgur.com/M8nnwVJ.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1687/24869182240_52ccbca94b_k.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:31:28
Something with Greek legends would also be really amazing!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M8nnwVJ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1687/24869182240_52ccbca94b_k.jpg)


what's the name of it?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: FrostyToast on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:42:07
Something with Greek legends would also be really amazing!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M8nnwVJ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1687/24869182240_52ccbca94b_k.jpg)


what's the name of it?

The first keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1647218#msg1647218) is from Jonathanyu and it is a very rare Olivetti KBD 2811 HBQ doubleshot Greek keyboard. It is the only known one of its kind.

The second keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43865.msg2065983#msg2065983) is a photo from jaffers and it is a NTC KB-6851EA (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/ntc-kb-6851ea-white-alps-greek-sub-legends-t12388.html) which is an ALPS board with greek pad printing.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: padath on Mon, 22 February 2016, 01:57:23
Would absolutely love a classic white/beige set that includes ISO UK.

+1. Classic beige (and also Olivetti) in ISO UK would be great  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Thumper_ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 02:38:22
What about German layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 22 February 2016, 02:55:32
hope i dont miss out on this. Need that odessa badly  :-X
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Pieminister on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:06:00
Sorry to spam the thread IMSTO. I am very excited about these sets!
I just wanted to ask again if it will be possible to but the ISO kit separately. I am hoping to buy one full set, and one only ISO set is possible because I already have a cherry ANSI Irish that i only need ISO keys for (but I also want to pick up a new different set, cant get enough!  :) )

Also, can someone explain to me which set the  "Desko" one is? At first I thought it was the orange cryllic, but I think maybe there just isn't a picture of it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:21:13
Sorry to spam the thread IMSTO. I am very excited about these sets!
I just wanted to ask again if it will be possible to but the ISO kit separately. I am hoping to buy one full set, and one only ISO set is possible because I already have a cherry ANSI Irish that i only need ISO keys for (but I also want to pick up a new different set, cant get enough!  :) )

Also, can someone explain to me which set the  "Desko" one is? At first I thought it was the orange cryllic, but I think maybe there just isn't a picture of it.
yes, should consider about the old customers.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:21:30
What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Thumper_ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:22:22

What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc

❤️
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: redskull on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:31:07
What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc

hope you will upload all picture samples before the official gb starts. cant really choose with no pictures.  :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Thumper_ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:31:37

What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc

hope you will upload all picture samples before the official gb starts. cant really choose with no pictures.  :D

I'm so damned in if its good looking.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: henz on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:31:59
Sooooo when can i order? :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: popkorn62 on Mon, 22 February 2016, 06:51:56
I'd love to see Miami Odessa, Japanese and Desko :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:58:45
What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc

W0W, if you make that happens I love u man.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 22 February 2016, 14:03:14
I'll wait for the updated mockups.
Hard to decide at the moment :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: t8c on Mon, 22 February 2016, 14:17:10
Scandinavian letters!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: fublamchu on Mon, 22 February 2016, 18:36:49
Yep! Definitely interested in the Hangul sets!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 22 February 2016, 19:36:26
Wait, these come with Windowed keys?  Dammit, now I wish I hadn't bought the set form EnjoyPBT.  I need the windowed keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 23 February 2016, 08:37:18
What about German layout?
yes sure, even french and ...etc

That would be great  :thumb:

Will you announce the start of the GB in this thread? Don't wanna miss it because it won't show up in the regular GB section of the forum...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Blackhawk on Tue, 23 February 2016, 09:13:36
Scandinavian letters!

I would buy this in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 24 February 2016, 02:17:44
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 24 February 2016, 02:46:46
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(

1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:14:11
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:21:39
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(

1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:25:32
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(

1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:

I took that as him answering yes to karura's question.
I don't think he would have answered it like that if 1800 support wasn't included, but I'm sure he will clarify when he reads this  :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:30:39
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(

1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:

I took that as him answering yes to karura's question.
I don't think he would have answered it like that if 1800 support wasn't included, but I'm sure he will clarify when he reads this  :)

My apologies if it was confirmed. Either way this project looks exciting! Lots of people asking for special characters I've never heard of on keyboard. :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 24 February 2016, 13:01:04
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)


How does Moses make his tea?

Hebrews it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: KnivesM on Wed, 24 February 2016, 19:45:04
layout
Russian(Cyrillic),    Irish(USIntl) ,   Ural,   Desko(Orange & red),   Miami,   Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft,  Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Curious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 24 February 2016, 19:47:08
layout
Russian(Cyrillic),    Irish(USIntl) ,   Ural,   Desko(Orange & red),   Miami,   Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft,  Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Curious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D

Isn't there a mockup? I saw a black on blue last time.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Permeability on Wed, 24 February 2016, 19:56:46
layout
Russian(Cyrillic),    Irish(USIntl) ,   Ural,   Desko(Orange & red),   Miami,   Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft,  Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Curious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D

Isn't there a mockup? I saw a black on blue last time.

Yep its in the OP

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128673;image)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: KnivesM on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:02:19
layout
Russian(Cyrillic),    Irish(USIntl) ,   Ural,   Desko(Orange & red),   Miami,   Aurebesh(StarWar),StarCraft,  Hungarian, Japanese, Hangul(Normal blue Hangul/red Hangul),Taiwanese......
Normal English(Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple)
Curious what the Starcraft keyset will look like. :eek: ;D

Isn't there a mockup? I saw a black on blue last time.

Yep its in the OP

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128673;image)

Didn't see that, pretty cool.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:19:50
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)


How does Moses make his tea?

Hebrews it.

LoL  :))

I can't wait to tell that to someone.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:27:53
I can't wait to tell that to someone.
Romevi couldn't resist either, twice!

Does anyone know if they do Hebrew?

How does Moses make his tea?









Hebrews it.

The context and age of the audience make bar mitzvah's the perfect storm for this joke. Allegedly romevi frequents bar mitzvahs of children he doesn't know and repeatedly asks about Mosiac tea rituals; he has been asked not to return to multiple shuls in his area.  :p

Let me try something..
The first sentence from  Hebrew Alphabet Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet), "The Hebrew alphabet (Hebrew: אָלֶף־בֵּית עִבְרִי[a], alefbet ʿIvri), known variously by scholars as the Jewish script, square script, block script, is used in the writing of the Hebrew language, as well as of other Jewish languages, most notably Yiddish, Ladino, and Judeo-Arabic."
..waits to see if romevi goes for a double encore.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:35:18
I can't wait to tell that to someone.
Romevi couldn't resist either, twice!

Does anyone know if they do Hebrew?

How does Moses make his tea?









Hebrews it.

The context and age of the audience make bar mitzvah's the perfect storm for this joke. Allegedly romevi frequents bar mitzvahs of children he doesn't know and repeatedly asks about Mosiac tea rituals; he has been asked not to return to multiple shuls in his area.
Let me try something..
The first sentence from  Hebrew Alphabet Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet), "The Hebrew alphabet (Hebrew: אָלֶף־בֵּית עִבְרִי[a], alefbet ʿIvri), known variously by scholars as the Jewish script, square script, block script, is used in the writing of the Hebrew language, as well as of other Jewish languages, most notably Yiddish, Ladino, and Judeo-Arabic."
..waits to see if romevi goes for a double encore.
You've got to be yidding me...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Thu, 25 February 2016, 20:11:45
Can this get 1800 compatibility? :'(

1) Is this BSP?

2) What about Red Desko

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


3) What about 3000SAT instead of Peacock?

Show Image
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8742/16245040583_b93ce64042_h.jpg)


3000SAT Photos from Photek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/sets/72157651430804162)

4) Most importantly, how about 1800-support keys?

1  no, gateron based
2  no problem
3  should be possiable, what is this layout?3000SAT?
4  yes 1800 is important layout now

Yes I read that, but that doesn't answer any confirmation. :confused:
yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Thu, 25 February 2016, 20:12:10
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)

interesting...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 25 February 2016, 20:34:51
@imsto so have you decided yet?  :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :D

(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

or the one on the front page? :O

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128669;image)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 25 February 2016, 21:14:10
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 25 February 2016, 22:49:07
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:44:01
@imsto so have you decided yet?  :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :D

Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)


or the one on the front page? :O

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128669;image)


that's easy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:46:02
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: romevi on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:48:25
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?

I think the one on the 5 of the num pad.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: LXXXIX on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:50:14
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?

What is normal on your BSP GBs with F and J having dots instead of a bar.

Also do you know if the Control legend will be corrected like I mentioned in my comment above?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 26 February 2016, 01:12:11
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)

interesting...
I can either find or make the legends if that would help.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: ika on Fri, 26 February 2016, 01:18:48
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?

I think the one on the 5 of the num pad.

This is where the nipple normally is on a keyset, but my EnjoyPBT has a bar on the numpad 5. It's also not scooped.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 03:03:55
Please include Hebrew.

Would it be possible to include Hebrew diacritics? Something like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wAupLyd.jpg?1)

interesting...
I can either find or make the legends if that would help.

yesyes
  that would be great.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 03:05:02
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?

What is normal on your BSP GBs with F and J having dots instead of a bar.

Also do you know if the Control legend will be corrected like I mentioned in my comment above?

I will do as what I did, so you mean the Contrl legens should be on left?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 03:06:22
This is a pet peeve of mine, but will this be corrected?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78563.msg2045933#msg2045933

I like the way you normally run it, but not how enjoypbt does it.

Edit. Will this had the barred homing keys or dots?
These are Gateron so barred with a slight scoop, I don't think Gateron has nipple homing keys.

what is the nipple homeing key?

I think the one on the 5 of the num pad.
I see, there would be 2 extra FJ with a bar but not nipple and  not scooped.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: t8c on Fri, 26 February 2016, 03:18:27
Friendly reminder of the suggestion of scandinavian layout / legends. Here is an example of a norwegian keyboard.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Keyboard_Layout_Norwegian.png)

I will be in, regardless :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Fri, 26 February 2016, 04:06:56
Friendly reminder of the suggestion of scandinavian layout / legends. Here is an example of a norwegian keyboard.

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Keyboard_Layout_Norwegian.png)


I will be in, regardless :)

any image of the full layout ?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: t8c on Fri, 26 February 2016, 04:30:47

any image of the full layout ?

Norwegian layout
(http://i.imgur.com/ljyMDZk.jpg)

The swedish and danish are a bit different (the danish has a different key next to the 1, 2, 3 etc and the swedish has other letters)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pomk on Fri, 26 February 2016, 06:20:43
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)

of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Sempre on Fri, 26 February 2016, 06:26:00
yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..

Any 75% support for pgup pgdn del keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: t8c on Fri, 26 February 2016, 07:45:41
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
Show Image
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)


of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.

That's an even better idea!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 26 February 2016, 14:27:14
@imsto so have you decided yet?  :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :D

Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)


or the one on the front page? :O

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128669;image)


that's easy.

heh, at this point I'm lost. I'll just wait for your gb. :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: Sempre on Fri, 26 February 2016, 16:13:11
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:

Show Image
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)


I found a font similar to the one in the pic called "Arabic Typesetting (https://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1874)":
(http://i.imgur.com/lGaZ2C6.png)

(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: imsto on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:01:26
Can I suggest Arabic dyesub? Can't remember the model of the board but here is a pic:

Show Image
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJdez3Ostg7Clzx-qF3PvXxNVUPP96ogfJYuFJeOrhR9AcDxp-)


I found a font similar to the one in the pic called "Arabic Typesetting (https://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1874)":
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lGaZ2C6.png)


Show Image
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)

I will check
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: VereChi on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:10:17
 Egyptian layout is awesome. Will support it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 27 February 2016, 13:00:47
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
Show Image
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)


of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.

I'm a Swede, and only have ISO keyboards, and I hate combined nordic layouts. I'd rather have a Norwegian or Danish (or German) set with one set of legends on the alphas, so while I would love a Swedish set, I won't buy a nordic kit.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:26:29
Any chance we could get 100% replica cherry fonts instead of the mixture of cherry letters/numbers and random symbols?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: blighty on Sat, 27 February 2016, 15:52:30
[attach=1]
(source: http://dry.sailingissues.com/us-international-keyboard-layout.html (http://dry.sailingissues.com/us-international-keyboard-layout.html))
Were there any Cherry Corp. boards with this (US-international) layout?   
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 27 February 2016, 16:19:35
That's the Irish set Ivan did and I plan on doing as part of the Royal Alpha inspired set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: AgentZen on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:10:54
Getting back into mechs, would love to get in on this group buy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: blighty on Sun, 28 February 2016, 15:19:23
That's the Irish set Ivan did and I plan on doing as part of the Royal Alpha inspired set.

Nice!  I would prefer the look of the high contrast black/blue/red legends (perfect for dye sub) in the "US int" layout compared to the low contrast light green pad print legends.  I'm sure both would look great though.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 28 February 2016, 22:57:54
Hi imsto, is it possible to do a beige japanese set with black legends only? Something like this:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XZ8WZ5TAL._SY355_.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/H81qgea.jpg)
(http://webwit.nl/input/ibm_japan/5576_003.jpg)

This would be cool too:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yo1XGyuMwWw/VE9cUbmS-1I/AAAAAAAAAxw/3h9MlOoEuFI/s1600/PA280309.jpg)

Though I think the modifiers should be gray, so kinda like the OG cherry set colorways:
(http://i.imgur.com/YQ2bR6h.jpg)

thank you ^^ 谢啦 ^^

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: macharius on Mon, 29 February 2016, 01:59:51
This sets are insane...

Where I can buy the sets ? Im looking for a link, form or something but i cant find anything...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 29 February 2016, 02:02:28
This sets are insane...

Where I can buy the sets ? Im looking for a link, form or something but i cant find anything...

It's not available yet. They're just gathering opinions on sets at the moment.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: dyrdevil on Mon, 29 February 2016, 02:23:04
will these sets support HHKB layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: Villain on Mon, 29 February 2016, 10:38:52
I'd be interested in a japanese set. How much are you selling them for
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 29 February 2016, 10:50:22
I'd be interested in a japanese set. How much are you selling them for

Read above, they're not for sale yet, just an interest check.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: Lepidus on Mon, 29 February 2016, 11:34:41
Only White/grey/beige, or can we explore other colors, like the starcraft blue set?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: romevi on Mon, 29 February 2016, 18:36:59
Gals and guys, he said to email him for suggestions.
He's already got 12 options; I think that's a pretty good selection. :))
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 29 February 2016, 18:58:02
Gals and guys, he said to email him for suggestions.
He's already got 12 options; I think that's a pretty good selection. :))

Yeah no offense, but almost every post is about something new to add. Remember we need to hit MOQs with these items.

Let's keep them to a minimum so we can actually make it happen. :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: blighty on Mon, 29 February 2016, 20:59:27
Gals and guys, he said to email him for suggestions.
He's already got 12 options; I think that's a pretty good selection. :))

Yeah no offense, but almost every post is about something new to add. Remember we need to hit MOQs with these items.

Let's keep them to a minimum so we can actually make it happen. :thumb:

Wasn't ivan's moq 20 per layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★★★★★★ISO included★★★★★★★★
Post by: imsto on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:56:09
yes 1800 series should be included at least the spacebar win keys, now considering about the Del end pagedown - +..

Any 75% support for pgup pgdn del keys?
that's not in the plan. but you may choose order them with the custom order link.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige 126 Pcs set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★Ancient Egyptian layout
Post by: Fyodor on Tue, 01 March 2016, 15:38:14
I'm in for a Miami set, maybe japanese too.   
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: rddm on Fri, 04 March 2016, 15:55:28
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: soilheart on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:38:58
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.
Yep, and a complementary  r1 1u to put beside the 1.25u shift.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Fri, 04 March 2016, 16:42:17
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.

The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.

BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: dyrdevil on Fri, 04 March 2016, 17:55:29
I would have loved to see full HHKB compatibilty here but I suppose it's close with the 1800
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Karura on Fri, 04 March 2016, 19:37:30
imsto, can you do side-printing for this GB?

What I mean is, top dyesub for Prt Sc, and sideprint for Sys Rq?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: gadzkun on Sat, 05 March 2016, 01:28:41
im in for this

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128655;image)

cant wait for this GB

 :p :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Sat, 05 March 2016, 03:16:39
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.

The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.

BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.

about the 1.25x shift and 1x   and 3x space bar would be avaialble on my site as custom order.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 05 March 2016, 04:02:46
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.

The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.

BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.

about the 1.25x shift and 1x   and 3x space bar would be avaialble on my site as custom order.

How much will those kits be?

Will those keys be blank or do they have the correct legends?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 05 March 2016, 04:26:05
your layout missing a 1,25 left shift to be 100% ISO compatible.

The 105th 1U key between the left Shift and Z/Y is also missing.

BTW, can we order some extra caps like 3U space bar for Minila? Gateron makes them in Cherry profile.
I could use 2 for my future split keyboard project.

about the 1.25x shift and 1x   and 3x space bar would be avaialble on my site as custom order.
Hmm. I was mainly interested in this because of the ISO compability, if I need to make an extra custom order on top to get all keys, I'm not as interested anymore...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:58:14
Approximately when will you start taking orders imsto?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Thumper_ on Sun, 06 March 2016, 03:53:27
ISO users need an 1.25x shift too...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Thumper_ on Sun, 06 March 2016, 03:53:59
ISO users need an 1.25x shift too...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:12:23
I feel like this is starting to get out of hand.

As an ISO user myself, I am happy to make a separate custom order for missing keys.

It is unreasonable to have a million random keys included in the base set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:29:53
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:31:46
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:47:04
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?

I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 &  R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard. Only half of those keys are included. I'd rather have all 4 or none (and a later custom 4 key kit).

Edit: Image for clarification (ignore extra enter): (http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/125426841/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC04264s.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: appleonama on Sun, 06 March 2016, 05:47:47
I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.

people actually believe this :^) down with iso
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Sun, 06 March 2016, 08:52:17
I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 &  R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard.

I wanted to get some custom hungarian keycap sets for myself and I contacted a lot of keycap makers long while ago, but lack of ISO support was a no go.

Shadovved's latest GB seemed to be promising, but he was not able to get the necessary ISO Enter, so ~1 month ago I turned to imsto with my sketches (http://i.imgur.com/dfv1GjR.png).
(Actually 2nd time, as I already wrote him a message on his webshop half year ago, but got no answer, but that's a different story.)

Now he was helpful here, and he said, that he'll be able to do my order as part of his upcoming GB to cut the costs.

But right now I'm losing faith, because my pet project doesn't seem to be doable properly. :'(
Or it will ruin my wallet badly.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: endeavour90 on Sun, 06 March 2016, 09:45:15
Will blank keycaps set be offered in this GB?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Karura on Sun, 06 March 2016, 22:36:21
Imsto, can you please add 1 key to the 1u size for compatibility? Either 1u Fn, or 1u "Menu" key

This will be very useful to pair with the short right shift.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Mon, 07 March 2016, 02:38:33
Imsto, can you please add 1 key to the 1u size for compatibility? Either 1u Fn, or 1u "Menu" key

This will be very useful to pair with the short right shift.

1U Menu is also used on keyboards with 6U space.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 07 March 2016, 06:10:25
So no peacock or egipcian layouts? :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: moemoe666 on Thu, 10 March 2016, 11:07:12
I really love the color of the Japanese set, without Japanese character.

Hope you could have that option <3
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 10 March 2016, 11:30:49
So when is this GB going to start?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Broadmonkey on Fri, 11 March 2016, 05:58:20
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
Show Image
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)


of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.

For the love of god, NO!!!
Just about every Dane I have talked about keyboards with, hates that kind of compromise. It looks cheap and like it's sole purpose in life is cost efficiency.
And, really, how high is the MOQ for each layout? because I am pretty sure there is enough danish and norwegian persons that would join, the gb just needs to be posted to local PC forums.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: SaiZn on Fri, 11 March 2016, 08:25:15
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
Show Image
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)


of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.

For the love of god, NO!!!
Just about every Dane I have talked about keyboards with, hates that kind of compromise. It looks cheap and like it's sole purpose in life is cost efficiency.
And, really, how high is the MOQ for each layout? because I am pretty sure there is enough danish and norwegian persons that would join, the gb just needs to be posted to local PC forums.

I agree, I would want the proper legends also for the layout I use and I think most people would prefer it that way. That's the reason I use blanks on my keyboard, mod kits aren't made with Mac modifiers (cmd, opt) and most don't have R2 ctrl and R1 caps lock.

I did email imsto about adding a Swedish/Finnish layout and he said MOQ of 10 so maybe MOQ of 10 for each layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Fri, 11 March 2016, 12:04:39
10 per each layout.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: redskull on Sat, 12 March 2016, 04:47:28
so it seems the options are up on imsto's website, but there are still no mockups available. when can these be up as well imsto?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Thumper_ on Sat, 12 March 2016, 06:55:01

I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?

I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 &  R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard. Only half of those keys are included. I'd rather have all 4 or none (and a later custom 4 key kit).

Edit: Image for clarification (ignore extra enter):
Show Image
(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/125426841/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC04264s.jpg)


That's not completely right. Many ISO users use their country layout so we need and another numrow in case of a German layout.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: nyunyu on Sat, 12 March 2016, 09:54:41

I think ISO is more important than G80-1800 addons, as there are more european users than G80-1800 users.
But how many keys does it take to make it compatible for all ISO users?

I think most ISO users would be OK with a 4-key kit: Enter, Shift, and two 1u keys (R1 &  R2), all of them necessary to fill out an ISO keyboard. Only half of those keys are included. I'd rather have all 4 or none (and a later custom 4 key kit).

Edit: Image for clarification (ignore extra enter):
Show Image
(http://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/125426841/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC04264s.jpg)


That's not completely right. Many ISO users use their country layout so we need and another numrow in case of a German layout.
Not just those keys.

As I calculated, my requested hungarian layout (http://i.imgur.com/dfv1GjR.png) has 43 different keys compared to a british ISO layout keyboard.
German is even worse, as you have abbreviations on the mod keys in german instead of english...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: sica on Sun, 13 March 2016, 00:38:29
Are the options in the your web page is the final fixed layout? (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=115)

Could you tell me more details about that options and show me the exact pictures?

And if I want to participate this GB, I have to order that page?

When is the due date for ordering?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 13 March 2016, 03:08:54
Imsto, can the "Sys Rq" and "Break" legends be printed on the sides of the keycaps rather than on top? The same as on your BSP sets.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 13 March 2016, 03:13:15
Imsto, can the "Sys Rq" and "Break" legends be printed on the sides of the keycaps rather than on top? The same as on your BSP sets.

Yup, I'd be in for some side print as well, it'd be the only selling point for me at this point
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 13 March 2016, 03:14:22
Japanese set is not on the site :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 13 March 2016, 03:31:21
Also I'd love to get a picture of how desko will look before i throw 90 bucks in the preorder pot
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: ika on Sun, 13 March 2016, 09:16:31
What's the difference between Hangul and Cherry Style Hangul? And where is the japanese option... also +1 more for what DESKO looks like...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Jixr on Sun, 13 March 2016, 18:54:12
when is the deadline for this GB?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 13 March 2016, 22:15:54
What's the difference between Hangul and Cherry Style Hangul? And where is the japanese option... also +1 more for what DESKO looks like...
I'm going to guess the difference is the regular Hangul is the one in the OP and the Cherry Hangul is the one he's made before.
@imsto so have you decided yet?  :)
the white hangul set with thcik legends :D

Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)

...

Would be nice to have confirmation though.

+1 on the Japanese set
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: ayumi971235111 on Mon, 14 March 2016, 06:38:10
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...
(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)
This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style  Russian  orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: ayumi971235111 on Mon, 14 March 2016, 06:56:40
(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...
http://imgur.com/ihdwH7F
This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style  Russian  orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: dipswitch on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:26:25
Where are the normal english colors on his website?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 14 March 2016, 11:43:25
Does this mean this GB has already started on his website?

Don't wanna miss the order deadline....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: tuco on Mon, 14 March 2016, 18:47:23
Hopefully the plain English options will become available.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LXXXIX on Mon, 14 March 2016, 21:43:15
@imsto can we have some questions answered lots of us do not want to miss the GB. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 15 March 2016, 04:08:35
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)

This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style  Russian  orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...

imsto's orange russian keyset is named "Ural".

+1 on the Japanese set

japanese set, please!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: redskull on Tue, 15 March 2016, 11:07:46
Does this mean this GB has already started on his website?

Don't wanna miss the order deadline....

the options are there, we can add to cart, but no pictures yet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: missalaire on Tue, 15 March 2016, 15:33:42
Is there an option for a red Cyrillic keyset in this GB?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: KnivesM on Tue, 15 March 2016, 16:21:52
Is there an option for a red Cyrillic keyset in this GB?
Yea the Russian is the normal red Cyrillic. He didn't post a pic in OP but it's listed and on the site.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 16 March 2016, 02:46:56
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 16 March 2016, 07:37:38
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?

I had no idea it was even available.  Poor communication.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Villain on Wed, 16 March 2016, 10:56:33
Japanese seems very popular, did he forget or something?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: romevi on Wed, 16 March 2016, 11:18:28
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?

I had no idea it was even available.  Poor communication.

Same. Has the GB commenced, then?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 16 March 2016, 12:01:56
anyone else ordered and paid in the imsto.cn site for these set?

I had no idea it was even available.  Poor communication.

Same. Has the GB commenced, then?
i hope imsto can confirm since i already paid and not sure that it even started already. kind of being careful now with gbs due to recent events  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Karura on Wed, 16 March 2016, 12:09:24
Imsto, how do I choose Red Desko for GB order?

I only see "Desko" and would prefer to order the Red Desko, thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 16 March 2016, 13:54:04
Can we get some confirmation on what font these are using? Are all of these the weird mixed ivan/cherry font? Is the Desko set the mixed font or is it the cherry replica?

I would be happy to buy a few sets if they used the cherry replica font and not the Ivan one like round 3.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: ileben on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:01:49
The lack of communication here is appalling. Any info on when this starts/ends would be appreciated.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:09:19
The lack of communication here is appalling. Any info on when this starts/ends would be appreciated.

Yup. The 1st post has pictures of layouts that aren't even listed on his site. Hard to figure out what you'd even be getting.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: tuco on Wed, 16 March 2016, 18:21:08
I plan to hold out on ordering until it is clearer what is happening. I am really interested in a few sets though.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: joostflux on Wed, 16 March 2016, 20:18:15
It's hard for me to be patient and wait but that Japanese set is too good to pass up. Boy oh boy has Geekhack been shoving patience down my throat teaching me patience. Still love this place none the less  ;D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: wehan31 on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:12:34
hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)
[attach=1]
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:25:59

hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)
Show Image


It will be black on white not what you have posted.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: redskull on Wed, 16 March 2016, 23:55:09
yo imsto, people are lining up to throw money at you. please update this GB with pictures so that we can throw more money and more people come and throw their money too.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: wehan31 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 00:37:55

hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)
Show Image


It will be black on white not what you have posted.

I know that, just ask if there are other colors
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: ika on Thu, 17 March 2016, 00:43:00
hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)
Show Image


white on black is not possible for dyesub. only darker colors on light keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 17 March 2016, 01:11:52

hello, i'm noob here
I have ordered aurebesh layout
Don't know if this is possible. :)
Show Image


It will be black on white not what you have posted.

I know that, just ask if there are other colors
That would have to be doubleshot which isn't something imsto does.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: wehan31 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 01:30:46
white on black is not possible for dyesub. only darker colors on light keys.

That would have to be doubleshot which isn't something imsto does.

oh, got it ,thank you two.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 08:48:17
Imsto, can you please add 1 key to the 1u size for compatibility? Either 1u Fn, or 1u "Menu" key

This will be very useful to pair with the short right shift.
there's a 1x r1 menu key included.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:21:19
Can we get some confirmation on what font these are using? Are all of these the weird mixed ivan/cherry font? Is the Desko set the mixed font or is it the cherry replica?

I would be happy to buy a few sets if they used the cherry replica font and not the Ivan one like round 3.

I will use the cherry replica font I used made, will not use ivan's fonts.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:21:54
Imsto, how do I choose Red Desko for GB order?

I only see "Desko" and would prefer to order the Red Desko, thanks!

should add a red Desko?  okay. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:23:49
These are still from Gateron but will it use the dyesubbing you used for your BSP GBs?

No Japanese? Also, can we have some examples on the site and deadline?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:23:55
I would suggest using the following layout, as I dont think that there are that many buyers for each of the country specific layout.
Show Image
(https://datordax.se/info_sheets/das_keyboard_nordic_layout.jpg)


of course the and keys would only have to contain 2 letters ( / ) and ( / ) as we can just interchange them.

For the love of god, NO!!!
Just about every Dane I have talked about keyboards with, hates that kind of compromise. It looks cheap and like it's sole purpose in life is cost efficiency.
And, really, how high is the MOQ for each layout? because I am pretty sure there is enough danish and norwegian persons that would join, the gb just needs to be posted to local PC forums.

I think there would be enough danish and norwegian layout orders, so I will add it . but plz anybody send me the images of them....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 09:47:38
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:00:13
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

Nice, imsto! Will definitely try and get the Aurebesh set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:06:07
To my fellow Norwegians: I have sent these pictures from deskthority as reference. http://imgur.com/a/SePns Original norwegian doubleshots made in West-Germany :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:13:57
are these available on taobao?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:25:05
are these available on taobao?

Doubt it, unless someone is running a GB on TB for these. imsto prints them himself.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:43:55
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

how about pictures of the ancient egyptian? and the german as well?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 17 March 2016, 10:46:15

ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

how about pictures of the ancient egyptian? and the german as well?

This keeps being echoed imsto. Can we at least get the images on here?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 17 March 2016, 11:51:24
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.
Delighted to hear this from you sir :) Thanks for the confirmation  :-*
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: endeavour90 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 12:15:39
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: Villain on Thu, 17 March 2016, 12:17:37
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

You listed japanese as one of the layouts but I don't see it on your site
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Thu, 17 March 2016, 13:05:14
Can we get some confirmation on what font these are using? Are all of these the weird mixed ivan/cherry font? Is the Desko set the mixed font or is it the cherry replica?

I would be happy to buy a few sets if they used the cherry replica font and not the Ivan one like round 3.

I will use the cherry replica font I used made, will not use ivan's fonts.

Awesome. This is a big thing so you should say these are the same fonts that were used in Round 3 on the first post :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Baddy126 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 13:50:18
From glancing at the imsto website, Seems like we can order the miami colours in Korean and other languages? Is this correct?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: nyunyu on Thu, 17 March 2016, 15:11:18
What about the 1.25U short left Shift and the +1 key next to it for ISO layouts?

Can I order my hungarian layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 17 March 2016, 16:51:44
How do you order normal english?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 17 March 2016, 18:05:57

How do you order normal english?

Yeah is there even an option for normal black printed?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:38:42
To my fellow Norwegians: I have sent these pictures from deskthority as reference. http://imgur.com/a/SePns Original norwegian doubleshots made in West-Germany :D
yes got it, thank you so much.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:40:52
are these available on taobao?


not yet. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ayumi971235111 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:41:23
hello
I want to join this group buys ...
but I not really sure ...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ihdwH7F.jpg)

This picture layout is called what?
called Cherry style  Russian  orange layout?
and how to order this layout keycap set...

imsto's orange russian keyset is named "Ural".

+1 on the Japanese set

japanese set, please!
Thank !!!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:42:36
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

how about pictures of the ancient egyptian? and the german as well?

German with no difference with the normal English print So I did not put any images...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:43:21
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?

this could be ordered from my site directly.  these two keys will not be included.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:44:22
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

You listed japanese as one of the layouts but I don't see it on your site

forget it...
just added.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:45:03
Imsto why no Japanese?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:45:25
From glancing at the imsto website, Seems like we can order the miami colours in Korean and other languages? Is this correct?

No...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:46:46
What about the 1.25U short left Shift and the +1 key next to it for ISO layouts?

Can I order my hungarian layout?

okay then   will add it, but plz send me some more information about the layout.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:49:54
Is the Russian layout just black Cyrillics?

I see the Miami and Ural layouts in the op, but I noticed there was Russian on the gb page too, and there are only two Cyrillic layouts in the op
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:54:21
How do you order normal english?

yes  the normal blacking is this layout.
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Post by: azhdar on Thu, 17 March 2016, 20:56:34
So French has been dropped?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 17 March 2016, 21:32:57
How do you order normal english?

yes  the normal blacking is this layout.
What?  It was not a yes/no question.  I'm asking where the option for normal English is.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys finaly
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 17 March 2016, 22:10:40
ok, almost every thing is okay now. 
actually the gb is started since they could be ordered already.
since I can not use google docs so I think just put it on my site directly will be a good choice.

the order deadline is April 15. 

but if you missed still got hte chance to get them, since I will make few more.

You listed japanese as one of the layouts but I don't see it on your site

forget it...
just added.

Not updated yet :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: missalaire on Fri, 18 March 2016, 01:11:29
Will you be adding pictures or at least mockups of each set to the ordering page? Would like to see what I'm ordering before pulling the trigger.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 18 March 2016, 02:04:44
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?

this could be ordered from my site directly.  these two keys will not be included.


where is the link to order the custom keys? I'm wanting the same thing too. And what is the process in specifying the customization?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: nyunyu on Fri, 18 March 2016, 02:34:57
What about the 1.25U short left Shift and the +1 key next to it for ISO layouts?

Can I order my hungarian layout?

okay then   will add it, but plz send me some more information about the layout.

I've sent my last mockup (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/c7632376634cd2b19208) to You 2 weeks ago...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ileben on Fri, 18 March 2016, 05:10:52
Imsto, you know you should probably add a link to the actual order page in the first post...

You know the best thing is put yourself in the shoes of someone trying to order, and you will see what kind of friction people are going through and what could be improved. Just trying to give helpful advice.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Fri, 18 March 2016, 07:05:41
Is it possible to add "\ |" on number row, and delete on qwerty row to complete HHKB style keyboard?

this could be ordered from my site directly.  these two keys will not be included.

How do I order a custom key from your website?

Last time I ordered some custom keys, you sent me the wrong ones, so this time I just want to make sure I order it properly, thanks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Fri, 18 March 2016, 07:08:32
Also, how do I order Blue and Red ANSI/US set?

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128651;image)
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128661;image)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 18 March 2016, 07:50:57
Well the egipcian one is cool and all, but why didn't you consider making a replica of the Cherry G81-3000 SAA?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: blighty on Fri, 18 March 2016, 11:24:11
[attach=1]

I think imsto forgot to add this subdued US-international set?  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:28:28
Well the egipcian one is cool and all, but why didn't you consider making a replica of the Cherry G81-3000 SAA?

i've emailed imsto about this, don't think he will do the exact 3000 SAA unless someone can give him full clear vector of the fonts. however i did ask him if he can do this instead;

(http://i.imgur.com/8pUCLb5.gif)

i think this should be ok, with the standard fonts/symbols in cherry black while the additional arabic fonts/symbols in blue. the numpad should have the same font as the numbers row mod only
without the !@#$%^&*()
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:47:06
That is so much better than the current egipcian layout, i bought ot from the site hopping it would be something like the SAA, and then the render came out and I was very disappointed.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Fri, 18 March 2016, 12:58:43
That is so much better than the current egipcian layout, i bought ot from the site hopping it would be something like the SAA, and then the render came out and I was very disappointed.

i myself almost bit the bullet, when i suddenly realize its egyptian, not arabic. luls.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Fri, 18 March 2016, 13:10:44
Yeah I should have figured it out, but since there was never any mention of that layout here, i assumed it was the Arabic one xD
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 18 March 2016, 16:12:08
One thing, is there any way to get green winkeys for the irish set instead of the cherry logo? What are peoples opinions on this? I would much rather have any form of the windows key than a cherry logo for the winkeys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wilarseny on Sat, 19 March 2016, 00:04:43
Well the egipcian one is cool and all, but why didn't you consider making a replica of the Cherry G81-3000 SAA?

i've emailed imsto about this, don't think he will do the exact 3000 SAA unless someone can give him full clear vector of the fonts. however i did ask him if he can do this instead;

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8pUCLb5.gif)


i think this should be ok, with the standard fonts/symbols in cherry black while the additional arabic fonts/symbols in blue. the numpad should have the same font as the numbers row mod only
without the !@#$%^&*()

This is a much better design for it personally. Isolated letterforms make more sense to me than initial, though I've seen non-mechanical keyboards with both. I would rather green alt legends but, as long as we can get any arabic set I'll be happy :)
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Post by: Geckt on Sat, 19 March 2016, 01:15:14
A little late but, I don't see Aurebesh or Japanese layouts listed on the imsto.cn site?

Does that means they've fulfilled the MOQ?

:/
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Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:17:29
 Cherry style Hangul  - Any mockups?
Or what colourway is this?
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Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 19 March 2016, 15:03:52
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 15:14:41
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 18:01:32
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 18:14:56
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 18:35:22
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.

I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 18:49:47
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.

I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.

Hopefully I don't regret it :p
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Post by: Glenmael on Sat, 19 March 2016, 19:00:10
I want to jump on a lot of these, where are all the examples pics?

e.g. German, Desko, Desko Red, Hangul, Cherry Style Hangul
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Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 19:18:07
More
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.

I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.

Hopefully I don't regret it :p

Should be ok, I hope.
We just need more clarity. That's about it  :)
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Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 19 March 2016, 19:26:28
More
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.

I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.

Hopefully I don't regret it :p

Should be ok, I hope.
We just need more clarity. That's about it  :)

I agree, I'll be super happy if we get a bit more communication and transparency with this.

Hopefully everything works out well, I'm pretty hyped for a Miami Cyrillic set
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Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 20 March 2016, 07:09:31
After the Ivan GB disaster I am going to take it a bit slow before I take the plunge with so little communication. I thought there would be ISO support etc that you could order separately?
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Post by: redskull on Sun, 20 March 2016, 09:17:05
imsto replied my first email regarding renders in just a few hours but my second email regarding arabic fonts still havent been replied yet for 3 days now.
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Post by: MOZ on Sun, 20 March 2016, 12:36:01
FWIW, I did extend help to imsto in regards to mockups and such, just in case he is struggling with those.
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Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:21:31
Imsto no offense but so far this has been a little sloppy. Maybe if there was more transparency it would make people feel a little more confident in joining. Either way good luck to you.
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Post by: BiNiaRiS on Mon, 21 March 2016, 04:29:50
More
I still have no idea what is going on.  Imsto is never going to sell anything like this.
I'm debating if I want to cancel my order now, it doesn't seem like this is going to be a really organized GB.

I really just want to know what I'm gonna be ordering.
The least it should include a mock-up matching the description of the set.
That would be really nice and headache free for people.

That too. I pm'd imsto about the Cyrillic layouts too, since there's Russian, Ural, and Miami, but there is no mock-up for regular Russian, and have gotten no response.

I'll just wait it out till there's some clarity from imsto.
Have you paid for yours yet?
Yeah, I did when I first made the order a few days ago.

Hopefully I don't regret it :p

Should be ok, I hope.
We just need more clarity. That's about it  :)

More clarity? I'd say we need SOME clarity period. There's been no clarity whatsoever and that is the problem.
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Post by: lolpes on Mon, 21 March 2016, 08:18:12
Imsto please reply clarifying the arabic/egipcian layout, or I will ask you for a refund.
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Post by: Bakesta on Mon, 21 March 2016, 16:11:18
The site still doesn't have the Japanese layout listed, did he decide not to run it?
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Post by: joostflux on Mon, 21 March 2016, 18:00:39
The site still doesn't have the Japanese layout listed, did he decide not to run it?

Please read the above posts. There are about a dozen other people echoing your sentiment. We are waiting for a response just like everyone else.
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Post by: jaffers on Tue, 22 March 2016, 09:43:24
I want to get desko if its a replica, with legit looking colours etc... with side printing. But there aren't even desko mockups yet on the GB page or on the site so I ain't touching anything. It's not likely that I'm going to touch anything at all at this rate, no one has any idea what is going on, and the website seems to be some kind of ambiguous self drawn raffle to get the colour scheme and letting you want
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Post by: moemoe666 on Tue, 22 March 2016, 11:23:17
I really love the color of the Japanese set, is it possible to make an English version with this kind of font and color ?
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Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 22 March 2016, 14:58:28
Definitely getting one, if not a few of these for the price  :thumb:
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Post by: romevi on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:14:36
Was gonna get just the Aurebesh set but holy cow that Egyptian...
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Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:19:58
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on
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Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 22 March 2016, 15:49:43
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.
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Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 22 March 2016, 16:56:43
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2
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Post by: missalaire on Tue, 22 March 2016, 20:56:15
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2

+3
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 22 March 2016, 22:55:07
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2

+3

-1
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 22 March 2016, 23:38:23
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2

+3

-1

+2????
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 22 March 2016, 23:40:58
Can anyone explain how to do custom key orders with Imsto? I hoping to get HHKB layout on round 4 but I'm scared of having it screwed up. Sent multiple emails on this but no proper response
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Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 23 March 2016, 00:32:40
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2

+3

-1

+2????

=7
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 23 March 2016, 03:08:16
I think I lost interest in this GB.

I wanted to order 2 custom sets directly from imsto 2 month ago, but nothing happened since then.
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Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 23 March 2016, 12:57:53
probably down for 2 sets but at this point I have no idea what is even going on

+1 Same here.

+2

+3

-1

+2????

=7
maybe 9
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Post by: mongui on Wed, 23 March 2016, 14:38:28
I wanna by one HANGUL, anymore? :)
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Post by: getf on Wed, 23 March 2016, 17:52:32
Do we have pictures of Taiwan layout?
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Post by: Krytone on Wed, 23 March 2016, 21:03:49
i think thats why imsto get someone to do the GB for him. I already ordered sometime back and hope i wont regret it  :-\
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Post by: redskull on Thu, 24 March 2016, 00:57:47
i think thats why imsto get someone to do the GB for him. I already ordered sometime back and hope i wont regret it  :-\

bro, you received any paypal invoice for that?
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Post by: naasfu on Thu, 24 March 2016, 01:07:37
i've successfully ordered a couple of things from imsto in the past.  when i had some minor issues with certain orders, he was responsive and helped square things away with me.

so personally i trust that he will deliver for this GB, although things might seem a little disorganized right now.
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Post by: WOMBO on Thu, 24 March 2016, 01:40:05
damn, want a hangul set but it looks like this gb is dead?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 24 March 2016, 01:53:13
i've successfully ordered a couple of things from imsto in the past.  when i had some minor issues with certain orders, he was responsive and helped square things away with me.

so personally i trust that he will deliver for this GB, although things might seem a little disorganized right now.

i've made purchases from him too, some from his taobao shop. i think he will deliver just fine, but without dem picturez many won't order simply because we don't know how'd they look like.
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Post by: naasfu on Thu, 24 March 2016, 01:59:31
i've successfully ordered a couple of things from imsto in the past.  when i had some minor issues with certain orders, he was responsive and helped square things away with me.

so personally i trust that he will deliver for this GB, although things might seem a little disorganized right now.

i've made purchases from him too, some from his taobao shop. i think he will deliver just fine, but without dem picturez many won't order simply because we don't know how'd they look like.

haha i totally understand and would like pics of the various choices as well, but it sounded like people were getting concerned about their actual orders not being fulfilled, so i just wanted to mention my past experiences with him.

i personally haven't ordered yet because i want the japanese keyset, but imsto hasn't added the choice yet.
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Post by: Krytone on Thu, 24 March 2016, 02:33:19
i think thats why imsto get someone to do the GB for him. I already ordered sometime back and hope i wont regret it  :-\

bro, you received any paypal invoice for that?
not sure if thats an invoice but its recorded in my paypal that i paid for the set so i guess i did. Im still hopeful since he has his own store front and a vendor no less. Just want the set i bought badly but no communication always makes me worry.
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Post by: endeavour90 on Thu, 24 March 2016, 04:28:57
I think the order page and OP post are updated.
It teases the japanese layout, but I still can't order it :(.
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Post by: BiNiaRiS on Thu, 24 March 2016, 22:55:42
So his site has been updated with a ton of photos, many of which are not available for order.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 25 March 2016, 14:00:57
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.

I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)
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Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 25 March 2016, 16:02:54
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.

I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)

I'm assuming hangul is the one pictured on page 1 the same as the Ivan sold.
Cherry style hangul would have cherry fonts instead.
But this is just me speculating. I asked him a few pages back too but didn't get a clear answer.
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Post by: redskull on Sat, 26 March 2016, 09:47:28
still no options for the japanese. and the arabic i sent him through email. :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 26 March 2016, 10:05:04
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.

I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)

I'm assuming hangul is the one pictured on page 1 the same as the Ivan sold.
Cherry style hangul would have cherry fonts instead.
But this is just me speculating. I asked him a few pages back too but didn't get a clear answer.

Thx a lot pichu23, that was actually really helpful to me!
Didn't realize cherry style might refer to legends altho it was kinda obvious for most I guess...

So Hangul might refer to the one shown in the op which looks an awful lost like this to me:
(picture taken from md)

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case/MD-17050_20160321121715_a9a6296c9972f78d.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)


And I imagine the Cherry style Hangul might look the same or similar to this picture by Pemdas of Imsto Hangul dysubs from an earlier round.
(mods are bluegaloo and cmyk)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/25946969056_691cfe57d4_c.jpg)
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Post by: tuco on Sat, 26 March 2016, 10:27:25
Thanks  FoC_Tow for the clarification.
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Post by: VERGiL on Sat, 26 March 2016, 11:37:01
Still waiting for imsto to give some clarification.
Looking forward to the german QWERTZ set. But currently I can just guess, that it has cherry style font with black color.
Also, does it have the Windows 98 style winkeys?
Please respond imsto.
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Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 26 March 2016, 12:08:15
Would like to order a Hangul set as well,
but Im confused about the difference between Hangul and Cherry style Hangul tbh.
Pictures only seem to show two versions of Japanese, none of which is available as an option.

I have faith in imsto and don't really think the gb is dead, but its definitely a little confusing and unclear in its current state xD
Would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me bout the difference Hangul vs Cherry style Hangul. :)

I'm assuming hangul is the one pictured on page 1 the same as the Ivan sold.
Cherry style hangul would have cherry fonts instead.
But this is just me speculating. I asked him a few pages back too but didn't get a clear answer.

Thx a lot pichu23, that was actually really helpful to me!
Didn't realize cherry style might refer to legends altho it was kinda obvious for most I guess...

So Hangul might refer to the one shown in the op which looks an awful lost like this to me:
(picture taken from md)

Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case/MD-17050_20160321121715_a9a6296c9972f78d.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)



And I imagine the Cherry style Hangul might look the same or similar to this picture by Pemdas of Imsto Hangul dysubs from an earlier round.
(mods are bluegaloo and cmyk)

Show Image
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/25946969056_691cfe57d4_c.jpg)


Yup exactly that.
I posted this picture instead though. (Credits goes to Vesper)
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/59/59f91e4c_RGBYFilco.jpeg)
It is thick but not sure it is cherry font.  :)
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Post by: vafan on Sat, 26 March 2016, 12:17:43
Will this drop succeed?
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Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 26 March 2016, 13:34:57
Will this drop succeed?
tune in next week to find out


:P
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Post by: rarely_upset on Sun, 27 March 2016, 19:07:29
I hope everything comes together; I really want that hiragana set.
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Post by: ceflame on Sun, 27 March 2016, 19:44:02
Posting this here to tease all of you who missed imsto jpn round1  :-*


(http://i.imgur.com/ZPSSMBy.jpg)
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Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 27 March 2016, 20:15:44
Posting this here to tease all of you who missed imsto jpn round1  :-*


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZPSSMBy.jpg)


Nice! the board complements it so well too!
Now I'm on the fence btw JP or Hangul  :-X
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Post by: wilarseny on Sun, 27 March 2016, 20:58:08
Here's my contribution to encourage people to pick up the Japanese set:

(http://i.imgur.com/dQwVkM3.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 27 March 2016, 23:42:14
Here's my contribution to encourage people to pick up the Japanese set:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dQwVkM3.jpg)


I would if we could place an order T_T
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: joostflux on Mon, 28 March 2016, 11:36:41
Here's my contribution to encourage people to pick up the Japanese set:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dQwVkM3.jpg)


I would if we could place an order T_T

^This. I want them sooo bad!
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Post by: AgentZen on Mon, 28 March 2016, 12:13:57
I still see no way to select an english option. I don't plan to order until we get some clarity regarding everything, but just wondering, am I missing something here regarding the which version is english?
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Post by: AgentZen on Mon, 28 March 2016, 13:21:12
Oops double post.
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Post by: ika on Mon, 28 March 2016, 13:27:33
It's nice you guys are hyping up Japanese and all but it would be even better if it were an option for this GB. It's not even available on his website yet.
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Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 28 March 2016, 21:54:04
now i need japanese in my laifu.. :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 28 March 2016, 21:59:31
It's nice you guys are hyping up Japanese and all but it would be even better if it were an option for this GB. It's not even available on his website yet.
Yea he has been adding pictures for the sets at least so he's listening albeit slowly adding them, though for Japanese it's not a problem as we had a render and pictures from previous sets.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 29 March 2016, 00:34:15
Aurebesh still isn't an option.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Tue, 29 March 2016, 03:06:33
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.

i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Glenmael on Tue, 29 March 2016, 03:20:04
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.

i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.

Thanks for the feedback sir.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 29 March 2016, 03:22:26
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.

i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.

I can probably help with the legends. PM me for details and the legends you have in mind.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 04:10:14
so imsto replied my email today. i asked him did he receive the arabic fonts picture i sent? he said yes but he needs the vector files to do it. not sure if he can make it himself.

i also told him to update the missing options at his website such as japanese layout.

thanks bruh.  :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Tue, 29 March 2016, 04:17:01
no problem guys. MOZ, i've sent you my email add via pm sir, please straightaway email me and lets try work something out.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 29 March 2016, 04:51:14
no problem guys. MOZ, i've sent you my email add via pm sir, please straightaway email me and lets try work something out.
Sent you an email an hour ago :P
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 29 March 2016, 15:18:23
Interested to see if an arabic sets goes through. If there's a possibility of one I would def order.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Sempre on Tue, 29 March 2016, 16:08:34
Interested to see if an arabic sets goes through. If there's a possibility of one I would def order.

Same here. I'd hope for a Cherry G81-3000 SAA replica.
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/400/473/006/78f48cfd629c74185511d6d81b0c116b.JPG)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Tue, 29 March 2016, 22:50:32
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.

for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!

(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 29 March 2016, 23:03:50
Hmm... Still no Aurebesh, the set I wanted most. Maybe he's still working on the details?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: endeavour90 on Wed, 30 March 2016, 00:03:07
The japanese option is up  :D.
Now I need to get another keyboard.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 30 March 2016, 00:06:38
Two options for Cherry style Hangul?
Might be a typo...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: joostflux on Wed, 30 March 2016, 00:12:22
Yussss! So happy that the Japanese option is available now. Ordered  :thumb:

Thanks for doing this GB :)
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Post by: naasfu on Wed, 30 March 2016, 00:44:31
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.

for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)


woo hoo!  it's time to order.

here are pics of japanese and irish from the previous round.  make sure to order them or you will regret it later, haha.
http://imgur.com/a/RXTvW
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 30 March 2016, 01:19:15
aw im just realize it right now, and want to ask why japanese kit numpad doesnt had function legend (home,end,etc)

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128667;image)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Relaxbro on Wed, 30 March 2016, 09:24:57
Interested in a japanese and a hangul set. Anyone know what color the hangul set is? I see it is listed twice (Cherry style).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 30 March 2016, 10:05:55
I still can't order my hungarian set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Porkins on Wed, 30 March 2016, 10:20:02
Is Aurebesh not part of the group buy anymore?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: infodroid on Wed, 30 March 2016, 10:28:57
I absolutely love the hieroglyphics on the Ancient Egyptian set. Not only the ones on the alpha legends, but also on the bottom row, the right shift, and escape key. Really good stuff.

But I don't understand why there are so many text legends, and why some of them are so weird.

It makes me wonder whether the design is finalized yet or whether it is incomplete and is a work in progress.

Here are some example of text legends that make me think this is not yet finalized:

I would totally understand if these text legends are intentional by the designer. But this is not clear to me at this stage. So I would like to confirm what is going on here.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:12:45
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.

for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)


Nice! Any idea how long will the GB take? Might need to get it shipped to another address if it takes awhile.
Still holding out for that Cherry Hangul mockup though. Could you ask imsto if you're replying him? :D
Thanks again!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:28:55
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.

for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)


Nice! Any idea how long will the GB take? Might need to get it shipped to another address if it takes awhile.
Still holding out for that Cherry Hangul mockup though. Could you ask imsto if you're replying him? :D
Thanks again!

I had some contact with IMSTO. I'm currently working on the Arabic legends, but should have mockups for most of the sets made soon.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:33:09
if the arabic is offered, at this point it will hopefully be something very similar, although not exact.

for now, imsto updated the website options, order away guys!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6buUegA.png)


Nice! Any idea how long will the GB take? Might need to get it shipped to another address if it takes awhile.
Still holding out for that Cherry Hangul mockup though. Could you ask imsto if you're replying him? :D
Thanks again!

I had some contact with IMSTO. I'm currently working on the Arabic legends, but should have mockups for most of the sets made soon.

Ah okay. That's good. At least, redskull and you have some contact.
Thanks once again. Hopefully the production isn't that long but I don't mind as long we're given notice. :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:46:24
Does anybody know how the German set will look like?

Will it be standard beige with QWERTZ legends or are there certain colors?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tkpresent on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:50:22
Does anybody has a sample image of Red Desko?
I'm really interested in the Desko and Red Desko, but I've never seen the Red one yet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 30 March 2016, 11:54:08
Does anybody has a sample image of Red Desko?
I'm really interested in the Desko and Red Desko, but I've never seen the Red one yet.

Here

(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: phosphoric on Wed, 30 March 2016, 12:25:58
placed an order for the japanese set!  :thumb:
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Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 30 March 2016, 12:36:31
ok already ordered japanese :thumb:
cant wait to see it in person :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Cony_WANG on Wed, 30 March 2016, 22:31:57
Does anyone have render or figure of DESKO?
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Post by: AgentZen on Thu, 31 March 2016, 02:12:41
Can anyone confirm? Is the Ural selection on the page the Orange Russian layout? Or is that just not listed yet?

Edit: nm, i figured it out. Imsto's orange russian set is called Ural
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 31 March 2016, 02:30:49
Yay most order options are added now. Norwegian PBT here i come!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Thu, 31 March 2016, 02:41:50
There's still an amazing lack of information in this group buy...it's astounding. No offense to imsto, i do like the guy, but seriously this is a train wreck. There's pages of people asking questions and he just goes and updates his website with more options? There are 14 layouts listed on the first page yet there are 19 options available to order and no way to match up what is what.

And i still don't know wtf half of these are. What is Ural? And russian is shown in the pics but it's not listed for sale.

I just want one image/pic of every layout with labels so I know wtf I'm buying. He also responded long ago that he will be using the Cherry replica font and not Ivan's mish mash of random fonts...but all the images and all the renders he's posting show Ivan's font. I just have no friggin clue wtf is going on.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: AgentZen on Thu, 31 March 2016, 03:15:26
There's still an amazing lack of information in this group buy...it's astounding. No offense to imsto, i do like the guy, but seriously this is a train wreck. There's pages of people asking questions and he just goes and updates his website with more options? There are 14 layouts listed on the first page yet there are 19 options available to order and no way to match up what is what.

And i still don't know wtf half of these are. What is Ural? And russian is shown in the pics but it's not listed for sale.

I just want one image/pic of every layout with labels so I know wtf I'm buying. He also responded long ago that he will be using the Cherry replica font and not Ivan's mish mash of random fonts...but all the images and all the renders he's posting show Ivan's font. I just have no friggin clue wtf is going on.

Russian is listed as a choice, 7th from bottom. Ural is the orange russian. I agree it's not the way a gb should be ran, but maybe imsto is busy. We still have 2 full weeks until deadline so. I give him the benefit of the doubt. Lets not piss him off, he is the one dying our keycaps.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 06:13:16
Arabic set, still work in progress, but feedback?

(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic_1.png)

Some keys are different to the ones IMSTO proposed, but I feel this setup is better suited to more layouts without increasing the key count drastically.

Not super happy about the cherry logo, would prefer an OS neutral key. How about a crescent and moon?
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Post by: azhdar on Thu, 31 March 2016, 06:56:40
Imsto can we have a mockup of the french set?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: sphinx on Thu, 31 March 2016, 07:37:05
Is it still possible to ask for an ISO portuguese layout or am I too late ? :D

I have a G80-1800 ISO to recondition that is just begging for some decent keycaps
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 31 March 2016, 07:43:05
Arabic set, still work in progress, but feedback?

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic_1.png)


Some keys are different to the ones IMSTO proposed, but I feel this setup is better suited to more layouts without increasing the key count drastically.

Not super happy about the cherry logo, would prefer an OS neutral key. How about a crescent and moon?

WOW that is the Arabic set I was looking for! For me I wouldn't change a thing. The moon OS symbol may be a good idea, but I think I would want to keep it natural i.e. no major novelties :) (old logo works too)
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:00:57
Not going for novelties, just that one win key. I know it bothers Mac/Linux users to look at that win key.

Once IMSTO confirms the keys, I should be able to provide mockups to most of the other layouts, so that should calm people down and see what they are ordering.
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Post by: redskull on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:12:27
Not going for novelties, just that one win key. I know it bothers Mac/Linux users to look at that win key.

Once IMSTO confirms the keys, I should be able to provide mockups to most of the other layouts, so that should calm people down and see what they are ordering.

for the os keys, maybe you can try do something like a blue palm tree symbol. blue crescent and moon would be cool too.


Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:24:31
On retrospect I think the palm is better because the crescent and moon might spike some religious talk. Just my two cents. I'm just here to help with the design to see this through.
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Post by: Sempre on Thu, 31 March 2016, 08:50:52
On retrospect I think the palm is better because the crescent and moon might spike some religious talk. Just my two cents. I'm just here to help with the design to see this through.

Yes, a Palm legend would be nice
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: RinSama269 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 09:19:16
I like what Moz did with the Arabic font set overall..It covers the HHKB layout with some side printed keys and and extra '\' R1 1u key which absent  in IMSTO original 133 keyset. How I wish all of the other sets have this printed layout..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 09:46:45
Hopefully they will. :)
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Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 31 March 2016, 09:56:30
I highly doubt any religious talk will spark from the crescent symbol since nothing happened in the last buy concerning that.
Does someone want to tell me what relation palm trees have to that particular set? I think it wouldn't look aesthetically pleasing.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 31 March 2016, 10:05:04
I highly doubt any religious talk will spark from the crescent symbol since nothing happened in the last buy concerning that.
Does someone want to tell me what relation palm trees have to that particular set? I think it wouldn't look aesthetically pleasing.

I think the same. Between palm trees and crescent and moon, i'll take the second one.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 10:25:39
Cool, will add crescent and moon, just wanted to play it safe :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 31 March 2016, 10:32:12
I highly doubt any religious talk will spark from the crescent symbol since nothing happened in the last buy concerning that.
Does someone want to tell me what relation palm trees have to that particular set? I think it wouldn't look aesthetically pleasing.

palm tree being the dominant plant in the desert. moon and crescent more to the religious side like on top of mosques but im ok with either.
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Post by: tkpresent on Thu, 31 March 2016, 12:29:50
Does anybody has a sample image of Red Desko?
I'm really interested in the Desko and Red Desko, but I've never seen the Red one yet.

Here

Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


Thanks!
looks cool.
Now I can't decide. Which one should I take, desko or red desko? :p
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:43:35
Very interested in the ancient Egyptian set, if only there's a render  :p :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:47:43
Mockups updated on post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2125189#msg2125189
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Post by: Photekq on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:51:19
Those look absolutely superb MOZ, however I would not recommend using the star and crescent for the Arabic set (or the yin yang for the Hangul for that matter).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:53:13
Those look absolutely superb MOZ, however I would not recommend using the star and crescent for the Arabic set (or the yin yang for the Hangul for that matter).

Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:59:12
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:

Arabic:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic48971.png)


Hangul (I tried to use a design similar to the Cherry font):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Hangul.png)


Cyrillic/Ural (Just imagine red is orange):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Cyrillic.png)


Miami:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Miami.png)


Remember, legends are not 100% position precise as I don't have the key template from IMSTO yet.

Desko mockups coming up next...

Great work MOZ!

Your sets contain all 4 extra ISO keys and the "`~" and "\|" keys in both color combinations for perfect symmetry. Love it!

Any word from IMSTO about this? Right now I don't even know which keys will be included in the official sets :(
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:00:38
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.

==============================

Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:

Norwegian:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)


Danish:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_dan.png)


French:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_fre.png)


German:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_ger.png)


Hungarian
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)


I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wilarseny on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:04:12
Those look absolutely superb MOZ, however I would not recommend using the star and crescent for the Arabic set (or the yin yang for the Hangul for that matter).

Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?

I'd imagine the religious question. It's tough, since many of the most iconic logo-type images relating to Arabic are also Islamic in nature.

Personally I like having something arabic-specific as the logo, maybe something like this? http://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/2781913/279731750/stock-photo-arabic-language-with-arabic-letters-279731750.jpg (just says "arabic language" in arabic).  Obviously the main part would need to be vectored, shouldn't be too hard.

Could also always just write the word "windows" in arabic script, I could probably make you a vector for that.

(I'd also like to raise the question of what color for the arabic sublegends, personally the blue isn't super appealing to me. Black english lettering with green arabic subtext would be pretty neat personally.)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:13:41
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.

==============================

Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:

Norwegian:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)



Danish:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_dan.png)



French:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_fre.png)



German:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_ger.png)



Hungarian
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)



I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.

The German set ist correct. Since classic beige is readily available on German ebay, I'd prefer a different version with other colors.

Also, I'd prefer text+icon modifiers instead of just icons.
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Post by: t8c on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:18:41
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.

==============================

Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:

Norwegian:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)


I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.

Very good. 100% correct. Black font face would rock, as it were like that on the original boards. Adapter kits are a good suggestion if it makes it easier.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:23:07
Just looking for the differences from standard ANSI, mods would be the same as the rest (Icon + Text)

I've also updated the post with the mockups, there were a few small corrections. Please everyone ordering a set, have a very close look at the sets for any mistakes with the legends.
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Post by: azhdar on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:29:59
I've sent him an email and hopefully if he sees that this setup is better, he'll agree.

==============================

Those looking for EU language specific layouts, please confirm if these are correct:

Norwegian:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_nor.png)



Danish:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_dan.png)



French:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_fre.png)



German:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_ger.png)



Hungarian
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)



I think going with black font face would be best? How about adapter kits rather than full sets. For the Nordic layouts German, French, this shouldn't be more than a few keys.

French is incorrect on the modifiers, it's icon only for all modifiers but the enter key who has the "Entre" legend.

The euro symbol on the E is either there or not. Older set like the one below doesn't have it, but modern sets have it.

please refer to this :

(http://i.imgur.com/GysYc6Y.jpg)
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Post by: Sempre on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:33:14
I have to say Moz did an amazing job with the sets.  When I sent him the Arabic font I didn't expect him to make a full blown high quality mockup so quickly. Also, thanks Moz for tolerating my numerous suggestions and nitpicking in the PMs.
This is a great set that is very similar to the rare Cherry G81-3000 SAA board.
Hopefully Imsto can manage to incorporate this into the groupbuy.
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Post by: Relaxbro on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:35:46
What font did Imsto use for the Hangul here? I really like it.

(http://i.imgur.com/MT3pdij.jpg)
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Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:43:08
What font did Imsto use for the Hangul here? I really like it.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MT3pdij.jpg)

I believe that's the Cherry style Hangul.

Miami, need ideas for win key:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Miamib60a1.png)

You could use the old designs unless you don't want to use that because it's Ivan's.

(http://i.imgur.com/nbsviw9.png)
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:48:06
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gungsuh, comes with Windows pre-installed.
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Post by: Relaxbro on Thu, 31 March 2016, 14:56:36
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gunsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.

Thanks. It looks like Gungsuh. Do you know if he plans to do any of the sets with that font?
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Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:00:34
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gunsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.
Oh okay my bad
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:22:39
I think he's talking about the particular font for the Hangul characters. It is Gungsuh/Bantang.ttc, comes with Windows pre-installed.

Thanks. It looks like Gungsuh. Do you know if he plans to do any of the sets with that font?

Funny thing is, I too like it, because it has the oriental look to it. I just thought something different might look good. I'll upload a mockup soon with the Gungsuh font.
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:24:16
You could use the old designs unless you don't want to use that because it's Ivan's.

I'd rather not, as it was his design unless people really want it.
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Post by: Geekmie on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:40:26
No Aurebesh for round 4?
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Post by: Photekq on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:52:25
Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?
Mostly because it's an Islamic symbol which I and many others wouldn't want on a keyboard. Personally, I would still buy the set and replace the key with regular winkeys, however I know that some other people wouldn't be willing to go to that much effort.

I mentioned the Hangul set too because, to be honest, I think just regular winkeys look better. However, I don't see the yin yang as problematic like the star and crescent.
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:56:24
No Aurebesh for round 4?

Waiting to get the font from IMSTO to make mockups :)

Reasons? Go with classic Win 98 logo?
Mostly because it's an Islamic symbol which I and many others wouldn't want on a keyboard. Personally, I would still buy the set and replace the key with regular winkeys, however I know that some other people wouldn't be willing to go to that much effort.

I mentioned the Hangul set too because, to be honest, I think just regular winkeys look better. However, I don't see the yin yang as problematic like the star and crescent.

I agree about the moon and crescent, this was my initial hesitation too. What about the palm tree that has been suggested?
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Post by: derzemel on Thu, 31 March 2016, 15:59:21
Saying that the crescent moon is only an Islamic symbol, is like saying that the swastika is a purely nazi symbol, or that Isis is a only a terror organization name, without any other hystorical meanings. The crescent moon is now associated with Islam only because it was used by the Otoman empire. Before that it was used by many ancient people.
I do not see any issues in using it. I would prefer a windows symbol, or a black cherry symbol, or yin-yang, but the Crescent moon does not bother me
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Post by: Photekq on Thu, 31 March 2016, 16:05:21
Saying that the crescent moon is an Islamic simbol, is like saying that the swastika is a purely nazi symbol, or that Isis is a only a terror organization name, without any other hystorical meanings. The crescent moon is now associated with Islam only because it was used by the Otoman empire. Before that it was used by many ancient people.
In modern history it is an Islamic symbol; that's what it primarily represents in today's society. Besides, I don't think anyone would want to see a Swastika on a keyset, even if it were meant to represent something other than the Nazis. I mean, there are guys on taobao that sell Swastika keycaps that aren't meant to represent Nazism, but I don't see anyone here buying them.

I'm not saying that the star and crescent only represents Islam, but I and many others associate it with that, and as such would not want it on a keyboard. I don't associate it with ISIS, nor do I care about ISIS.

Also, like I said, I would still buy the keyset even if it weren't modified. I love the Arabic set and would happily replace the keys with some different ones. However, I'm sure some other people would not go through the trouble. I don't recommend this change because I'm offended or because of my personal beliefs; I recommend it because I believe it would make the set more popular.

I agree about the moon and crescent, this was my initial hesitation too. What about the palm tree that has been suggested?
I'm sure a palm tree would be absolutely fine. If it were up to me I'd still just go with a Windows logo, but that's just my opinion and I may be in the minority here. I would just steer clear of any religious symbols, especially ones which are controversial. A palm tree definitely fits that criteria.
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Post by: lolpes on Thu, 31 March 2016, 16:13:44
Can I choose two small cactus and a bigger cactus growing in the middle? Best OS key ever!

Anyway, I am fine with anything really, but I liked the ideas the cactus that was suggested earlier ^
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 31 March 2016, 16:30:46
The discussion thus far is exactly why I want to avoid using the crescent and star. Will replace with palm tree/cactus. lolpes do you have an image in mind? I can think of a nice silhouette of that kind.
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Post by: lolpes on Thu, 31 March 2016, 17:33:55
Please don't enable me MOZ xD the cactus part was a joke, and I can draw the silhouette if you didn't get it :p

Anyway, no I don't have any ideas for now, but when I get to work tomorrow I'll try to see what I can find and draw it and send it to you, no cactus jokes this time :p but in my opinion I think I like to keep the set as close to the original as possible :) but then again, I also don't mind it ;)
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Post by: infodroid on Thu, 31 March 2016, 19:45:14
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:

Arabic:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)


MOZ: I like what you did here with the Arabic legends!

Here is the thing. It is a mystery to me why some Arabic keyboards use the isolated form of each character, while others like the Cherry G81-3000 use the initial form.

Do you have any thoughts on this matter?

For example, you can see the difference between the two in this Wikipedia table:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet#Letter_forms

I would have thought that the isolated form is more "proper" (if there is such a thing) because it treats each letter individually instead of representing it as it would look like at the start of a word.

Also, the isolated letters look more beautiful to me. Here is the Apple keyboard layout for Arabic (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201794) as an example (which is probably not the greatest example since they use a very weird layout):
(https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/keyboards/arabic_notebook.png)

More
And here is a random keyboard I found... I liked the blue/white contrast, and this has a more conventional layout:
(http://aramedia.com/arbickey.jpg)

I think maybe I prefer the isolated form because there is more diversity in the letter shapes, which makes it more interesting.

On the other hand, there is a sort of smooth uniformity about the initial form look, which makes it look sleek.
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Post by: redskull on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:23:14
The discussion thus far is exactly why I want to avoid using the crescent and star. Will replace with palm tree/cactus. lolpes do you have an image in mind? I can think of a nice silhouette of that kind.

palm tree would be great

the yin yang is very much associated with chinese instead of korean.

Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:

Arabic:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)


MOZ: I like what you did here with the Arabic legends!

Here is the thing. It is a mystery to me why some Arabic keyboards use the isolated form of each character, while others like the Cherry G81-3000 use the initial form.

Do you have any thoughts on this matter?

For example, you can see the difference between the two in this Wikipedia table:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet#Letter_forms

I would have thought that the isolated form is more "proper" (if there is such a thing) because it treats each letter individually instead of representing it as it would look like at the start of a word.

Also, the isolated letters look more beautiful to me. Here is the Apple keyboard layout for Arabic (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201794) as an example (which is probably not the greatest example since they use a very weird layout):
Show Image
(https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/keyboards/arabic_notebook.png)


More
And here is a random keyboard I found... I liked the blue/white contrast, and this has a more conventional layout:
Show Image
(http://aramedia.com/arbickey.jpg)


I think maybe I prefer the isolated form because there is more diversity in the letter shapes, which makes it more interesting.

On the other hand, there is a sort of smooth uniformity about the initial form look, which makes it look sleek.

the original rare 3000SAA has initial form. yes it looks more sleek.
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Post by: redskull on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:32:20
MOZ, can you please help re-make those egyptian mockups? i really think they would look great but currently they look very wonky.
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Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:34:13
how about japanese set.
could imsto add a legend text on the numpad?

(http://i67.tinypic.com/mkccog.png)

its kinda plain :rolleyes:
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Post by: MOZ on Fri, 01 April 2016, 02:01:41
Hold your horses dearies, I'll get to each set one by one :P

I've been thinking, we've always done the Irish set in US-Intl, how about doing it in some other color, and...

Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?
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Post by: lolpes on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:05:56
Hold your horses dearies, I'll get to each set one by one :P

I've been thinking, we've always done the Irish set in US-Intl, how about doing it in some other color, and...

Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?

There are so many color combos possible, why not light blue and orange, or purlple and light purple or magenta ? :D
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Post by: Photekq on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:10:34
Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?
Would love to see Sindarin in dark green and English in black. To me elves mean deep, celtic forests. Dark green works best for this, while lime is too bright and citrusy.
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Post by: derzemel on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:34:56
Have the Irish set done in Tengwar/Sindarin. English primary legends in dark green and Tengwar legends in lime. Thoughts?
Would love to see Sindarin in dark green and English in black. To me elves mean deep, celtic forests. Dark green works best for this, while lime is too bright and citrusy.
I agree with Photekq here
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Post by: sphinx on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:41:11
Is it still possible to ask for an ISO portuguese layout or am I too late ? :D

I have a G80-1800 ISO to recondition that is just begging for some decent keycaps

[attachimg=1]

pliiiiiz ? :D

can this be added to the group buy too?

as far as i noticed it is close to the danish layout with a few changes
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Post by: MOZ on Fri, 01 April 2016, 07:26:19
What's preferred for Japanese, Mincho or Gothic?
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Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 01 April 2016, 08:44:20
What's preferred for Japanese, Mincho or Gothic?

i vote mincho :)
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Post by: jaffers on Fri, 01 April 2016, 08:48:41
Is there a picture of desko? Can we get a photo if not?
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Post by: nyunyu on Fri, 01 April 2016, 10:29:46
Hungarian
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/l_hun.png)


I'm trying to order this layout from imsto for almost 3 months now:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/c7632376634cd2b19208

Similar to Olivetti colour scheme, but beige mods instead of grays.
Cherry fonts+symbols would be fine.

If this is not possible, then do it like the old hungarian G80-3000 style:
(http://i.imgur.com/piUkIUr.jpg)
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Post by: VERGiL on Fri, 01 April 2016, 10:45:30
This is getting even weirder. Now Red Desko and Cherry style hangul is +$10. And the Ancient Egyptian sets have no extra cost any more. Instead, the Blue print and Miami are +$3.
That doesn't make any sense. I'm really tempted to get a german set, but this GB is really, really weird.
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Post by: infodroid on Fri, 01 April 2016, 12:25:40
Alright, so I've got a few designs up for feedback:

Arabic:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/03/31/Arabic1999e.png)


Your Arabic mockups are correct and very well done.

However the كـ looks a bit strange, mainly the top half of the character is too long, which makes it look eccentric.
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Post by: infodroid on Fri, 01 April 2016, 12:31:09
Miami, need ideas for win key:

Well, the palm tree is in fact the Miami official seal...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg/140px-Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg.png)

Too many palm trees in this thread  :))
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Post by: geniekid on Fri, 01 April 2016, 13:52:34
Miami, need ideas for win key:

Well, the palm tree is in fact the Miami official seal...

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg/140px-Seal_of_Miami,_Florida.svg.png)


Too many palm trees in this thread  :))

Just use the palm tree for Arabic, but make it sexier.
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Post by: MOZ on Fri, 01 April 2016, 13:54:56
Mockups updated on post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2125189#msg2125189
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Post by: t8c on Fri, 01 April 2016, 14:16:11
Those are so cool! Any chance the EU icon modifiers can be without text i.e. icon only, like the caps lock here

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/cyrillic-winkeyless_1024x1024.jpg)

and shift, backspace, tab and enter here?

(http://i.imgur.com/Gq0BFyw.jpg)
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Post by: getf on Fri, 01 April 2016, 15:46:18
Will Miami be on full white background?
Will there be any other sets on full white background?
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Post by: joostflux on Fri, 01 April 2016, 15:48:45
I absolutely love the Japanese one! I could not contain my excitement and I do apologize.
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Post by: Relaxbro on Fri, 01 April 2016, 16:26:10
Great work MOZ! Really loving the Hangul and the Japanese sets :thumb:
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Post by: mesteris on Fri, 01 April 2016, 16:49:37
Will Miami be on full white background?
Will there be any other sets on full white background?

I'd be highly interested in the basic colored dye-subs on a full white set! :p
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Post by: geniekid on Fri, 01 April 2016, 16:57:57
The mockups look great MOZ, but I'm a little confused here...are you working with IMSTO on the final layout or what's happening?
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Post by: wilarseny on Fri, 01 April 2016, 17:01:31
So here goes, mockups again.

Arabic Changed win key to palm tree, sand, remove arrow from the numpad enter for the classic look:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/01/Arabic.png)



Think my post got lost in the shuffle above - are the colors for the Arabic set up for debate? I'd love an arabic set, but the blue sublegends aren't a personal favorite.
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Post by: lolpes on Fri, 01 April 2016, 17:17:05
It is to recreate the g80 SAA set, so to mimic it, it has to be blue, only other option I would think to consider would be black, and even the blue is better :p
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Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 01 April 2016, 17:32:26
I think the Japanese would look way better with the legend colors inverted, like roman black and hiragana red, that would be my dream set!
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Post by: infodroid on Fri, 01 April 2016, 18:39:00
I like the Rose of Sharon on the Korean winkey. It is very elegant.

I am not a huge fan of the new Arabic winkey. I prefer the crescent to the sand dune.

The same for the new Miami winkey, I feel that Ivan's was a lot cooler.
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Post by: lolpes on Fri, 01 April 2016, 18:56:18
I actually loved the new Miami Ainsley!
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Post by: ceflame on Fri, 01 April 2016, 19:02:51
Ugh MOZ stop making these sets so sexy. Now I actually have to buy some of them.
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Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 01 April 2016, 19:03:50
The mockups look great MOZ, but I'm a little confused here...are you working with IMSTO on the final layout or what's happening?

Yeah this. So what's happening to the original Japanese set? o.o
Not saying your render aren't nice but just like to know which is the final mockup.
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Post by: itzmeluigi on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:02:27
Is there an option for Red Russian Cyrillic like this one shown in the OP?
(http://imsto.cn/image/data/round4/7.jpg)

I dont see an option for it on the order page, i only see the option "Russian".
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Post by: redskull on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:06:18
imsto offered anyone to email him with designs. he would have the last say but i believe he is in contact with MOZ to finalize and properly mock everything up.

MOZ, hope you don't forget to do the proper mockups for the Ancient Egyptian too.
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Post by: redskull on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:07:38
Is there an option for Red Russian Cyrillic like this one shown in the OP?
Show Image
(http://imsto.cn/image/data/round4/7.jpg)


I dont see an option for it on the order page, i only see the option "Russian".

Russian is for the standard red cyrilic, Ural is for the orange colored.
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Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:47:05
TY MOZ!!!! that Japanese was really really really gorgeous :-*
now i can sleep in peace  ^-^
IMSTO please make that japanese from MOZ happen :p
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Post by: Karura on Fri, 01 April 2016, 22:44:42
Red Desko Replicated the exact look of the Red Desko set. Added Desko logo win key, there was no win key in OG set.:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/01/DeskoRed.png)


Very nice mockups, thanks for making them.

Honestly, please go with a normal Winkey for the Red Desko. It's not meant to be a fancy (think Miami, or something) keyset, less novel and more like classic beige.

Also, I think you're missing the red print on the Esc key legend.

Out of pure curiosity, are you making the mockups so we have a reference, or are you actually working with imsto to produce exactly the same as the mockups? If the latter, I feel the GB participants will want to have a bit more say in it.

Once again, imsto has done great in the past, and I am worried that "too many chefs in the kitchen" syndrome might mess up what is already great.

My only suggestion is that most people would probably prefer a normal Winkey, especially if it's more of a classic colourway, and wish to see a normal Win8 winkey dyesub for all the sets (except the fancy novelty sets, such as the Starwars or Miami, or whatever).
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Post by: redskull on Sat, 02 April 2016, 00:10:22
MOZ, for the arabic set, can you please remove sideprints from Capslock, Control and the | \ key below the backspace? also the blue 'Gr' on alt? leave the original 7 on the alphas/f row with SysRq in green and Break in black. IMO, this will look cleaner and more towards the original.

the palm tree is cool though for me but as Karura said, normal win8 winkey might be the preferred choice of many for the sets that are of classic colorway.

Tengwar is damn cool, if this is done, im getting one for sure.
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Post by: MOZ on Sat, 02 April 2016, 09:44:40
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.

Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.

I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?
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Post by: redskull on Sat, 02 April 2016, 09:49:37
MOZ,

what do you mean by 'basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami.'?
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Post by: MOZ on Sat, 02 April 2016, 10:42:15
MOZ,

what do you mean by 'basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami.'?

The sets with Cherry legends only, like this one:
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79769.0;attach=128651;image)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Sat, 02 April 2016, 11:16:08
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.

Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.

I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?

your japanese mock up really gorgeous!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
i hope imsto would make it like that  :cool:
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Post by: Phirr on Sat, 02 April 2016, 11:20:59
All the mockups look great, keep going MOZ.

That being said, the miami winkey is a little too busy for my taste
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Post by: Phirr on Sat, 02 April 2016, 11:29:21
Also is the r1 desko pgdn supposed to be sans sublegends?

edit: Also, does imsto have access to rgb mods? Thought the caps were sourced from gateron.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Sat, 02 April 2016, 11:30:33
ok thanks MOZ.

my suggestion on the arabic and other cherry replicas is as before regarding those sideprints and keeping things as close to original.

also agree with winkey 98 for all of them except those exotic fonts, keep the winkeys that you designed.

i will try email imsto again to push him send you the templates faster.  :))
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Sat, 02 April 2016, 17:00:43
Thanks MOZ, I prefer win8 logos on most of them, as win98 logo is quite a niche, and win8 logo is more neutral and cleaner with classic sets.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: anthonyooiszewen on Sat, 02 April 2016, 20:51:24
Thanks MOZ, I prefer win8 logos on most of them, as win98 logo is quite a niche, and win8 logo is more neutral and cleaner with classic sets.

Agreed! Win8 for most of the sets and 98 for Desko please! Thanks, MOZ. You're doing great work!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Sat, 02 April 2016, 21:05:39
Has the Japanese design already been finalized MOZ?

Because... Am I the only one who prefers the old Japanese set with it having a simple Japanese font?  :(

I've already placed an order for this newer Jap set (since I didn't get mine from Ivan's group buy due to all that fiasco).
But, basing on just the mockup images alone, this specific Mincho font looks too "script-like / calligraphic" with a large variance in stroke thickness here and there, and I have mixed feelings about that.
I just feel that it doesn't match a keyboard with the alphabet on it, being that the alphabet has letters with either hard edges and sharp turns or round corners overall (take the Hangul set for example, it looks quite appealing to me with a consistent thickness for each stroke in a character). What attracted me to the previous Japanese keyset that Ivan had originally listed in his group buy was how nice and subtle the dyesubbed font for Japanese characters were; it mixed in with the alphabet letters pretty nicely for a nice "modern" feel. I hope I'm not asking for too much, but I'm wondering if MOZ could show a comparison of different font faces for the Japanese keyset, preferably with a less "calligraphic" font (maybe go for some Gothic-type font?).

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Sat, 02 April 2016, 21:33:08
saw MOZ's edit. dayum, so many good sets coming...  :eek:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Zeneraith on Sat, 02 April 2016, 21:50:09
Because... Am I the only one who prefers the old Japanese set with it having a simple Japanese font?  :(

You're not the only one! I prefer the look of the previous Japanese set as well. :thumb:

For me, it's not just the Japanese font, but also the font for the alphabet characters. I'm pretty fond of the thin font used. I feel that it goes well with the previous Japanese font (Gothic?), which is rather thin too.
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Post by: Karura on Sat, 02 April 2016, 22:09:26
Thanks MOZ, I prefer win8 logos on most of them, as win98 logo is quite a niche, and win8 logo is more neutral and cleaner with classic sets.

Agreed! Win8 for most of the sets and 98 for Desko please! Thanks, MOZ. You're doing great work!

Disagree, Win8 for all including Desko please
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Post by: gadzkun on Sat, 02 April 2016, 22:21:54
make a comparison for japanese and take a vote? i agree.. :thumb:
thin or thick its ok for me, i just want the numpad had more text legend and not plain like the previous ivan GB..
but i really like the new japanese set feels more like "japanese" with calligraphy text.. :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: AgentZen on Sat, 02 April 2016, 22:53:59
How do you guys feel about the gateron keycaps? Where do they rank vs past pbt keycaps imsto has sold?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 02 April 2016, 23:12:29
Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.

Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.

I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?

Long live the Win7 logo, or better yet the Win95/98.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 03 April 2016, 00:16:34
Long live the Win7 logo, or better yet the Win95/98.

yes
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 03 April 2016, 01:08:33
How do you guys feel about the gateron keycaps? Where do they rank vs past pbt keycaps imsto has sold?
Better than Vortex, not as good as BSP smoothness wise, thickness they're a tiny bit thicker than vortex, and thicker than BSP.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kaeeeede on Sun, 03 April 2016, 01:48:05
Wait so the hangul layout is suddenly changing? I already joined expecting the one in the OP like from the previous GB. Or are you debating the Cherry style hangul?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuantruong on Sun, 03 April 2016, 04:46:13
I still wish imsto would do another BSP round, the gateron colors are just kinda off to me.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: VERGiL on Sun, 03 April 2016, 05:49:58
Really a matter of taste, but I'd also like to see the win98 style keys :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sun, 03 April 2016, 08:01:48
anyone else thinks that the sideprints for control, caps lock and pipe key doesn't look as nice in desko, cyrillic and arabic set? :/
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:16:18
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:31:25
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order

At the risk of sounding like a condescending ass, the set Ivan made is just Japanese legends slapped on an ANSI layout, there are a few important keys missing for it to be truly usable. As a first, Japanese layout uses the JIS layout (Close to ISO) and not the 104-key ANSI.

If the people ordering Japanese set, want to have a minimalistic look with Gothic font, I have absolutely no problem with that and will edit the mockups. I'm just making my services as a designer available. I will upload sample text in a few different fonts and then we can choose the one that looks best?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:31:36
Based on the various feedback, I've made some changes to all the sets. There are some minor corrections her and there in all the sets.

I removed the backspace sideprint on the alpha colored 1.5U key because when using that key as a backspace, you'd want to use the darker colroed mod key. If users feel strongly about removing the sideprinted Control and Lock, I can remove that as well, although I think it is good compromise for those wanting to use HHKB style layout (Me, not being one of them).

Also changed the win key on some of the sets, in general if the primary legend is black, I've gone ahead with the win98 logo and if they are colored, then with the win8 logo. Again, I'm going to go with whatever the consensus is(Or the closest thing to it is :))).

Regarding the EU sets, I'm not sure what the MOQ is, but if it is 20 (waiting for IMSTO to confirm), then I doubt we'll hit that number for all the sets. It might be a better idea to have a base EU set, and then language addons. Just my two cents.

There can surely be errors and would encourage users to double-triple check the sets they want to order for correct legends. Making mockups for some 20+ sets, one can start to lose their mind :))



Arabic:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Arabic.png)


Russian (Cyrillic)  /  Ural (Image red legends are orange):
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Cyrillic.png)


DESKO:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Desko.png)


Desko Red:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DeskoRed.png)


Cherry Hangul:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Hangul.png)


Japanese (Which one is better Japanese text in red or black?):
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Japanese.png)
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/JapaneseI.png)


Miami (Ukranian):
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Miami.png)


Tengwar:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Tengwar.png)


US-Intl (Irish):
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/US-Intl.png)


Cherry Black:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)


Cherry Blue:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Blue.png)


Cherry Green:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Green.png)


Cherry Purple:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Purple.png)


Cherry Red:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Red.png)


EU - Danish:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DA.png)


EU - French:
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/FR.png)


EU - German:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DE.png)


EU - Hungarian:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)


EU - Norwegian:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/NO.png)


EU - Portuguese:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/PT.png)


EU - Spanish:
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(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/ES.png)


EU - Swedish
More
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/SV.png)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:35:16
Wow, italian wasn't taken even into consideration. I'm not really surprised though, I doubt it could reach even 10 orders.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:40:57
Wow, italian wasn't taken even into consideration. I'm not really surprised though, I doubt it could reach even 10 orders.
Noone asked for it, all the EU sets, at least on person had asked for it. Don't have anything against Italians :P

Is this the correct layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/40WbeZe.png)
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Post by: VERGiL on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:42:18
@MOZ: Is there any reason for using the slashed zero (∅) instead of the normal zero (0)?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:50:05
Is this the correct layout:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/40WbeZe.png)

99% accurate.
The euro glyph on the letter E is placed diagonally opposed to the E, i.e. bottom right of the key, and it's almost never shown on the number 5 key.
The curly brackets are often missing from their respective keys although they actually register like that (Ctrl - Alt - Shift).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:53:16
Just two minor corrections needed on the Norwegian layout (Thank you for being so patient and helpful MOZ, we speak your name  :cool: :cool: :cool:!)

instead of

&

sign as sublegend on the E key, as shown in the picture below! (therefore, the on number row 5 needs to be removed)

(http://i.imgur.com/PJy0GSX.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: SaiZn on Sun, 03 April 2016, 14:01:59
Based on the various feedback, I've made some changes to all the sets. There are some minor corrections her and there in all the sets.

I removed the backspace sideprint on the alpha colored 1.5U key because when using that key as a backspace, you'd want to use the darker colroed mod key. If users feel strongly about removing the sideprinted Control and Lock, I can remove that as well, although I think it is good compromise for those wanting to use HHKB style layout (Me, not being one of them).

Also changed the win key on some of the sets, in general if the primary legend is black, I've gone ahead with the win98 logo and if they are colored, then with the win8 logo. Again, I'm going to go with whatever the consensus is(Or the closest thing to it is :))).

Regarding the EU sets, I'm not sure what the MOQ is, but if it is 20 (waiting for IMSTO to confirm), then I doubt we'll hit that number for all the sets. It might be a better idea to have a base EU set, and then language addons. Just my two cents.

There can surely be errors and would encourage users to double-triple check the sets they want to order for correct legends. Making mockups for some 20+ sets, one can start to lose their mind :))



Arabic:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Arabic.png)


Russian (Cyrillic)  /  Ural (Image red legends are orange):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Cyrillic.png)


DESKO:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Desko.png)


Desko Red:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DeskoRed.png)


Cherry Hangul:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Hangul.png)


Japanese (Which one is better Japanese text in red or black?):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Japanese.png)
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/JapaneseI.png)


Miami (Ukranian):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Miami.png)


Tengwar:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Tengwar.png)


US-Intl (Irish):
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/US-Intl.png)


Cherry Black:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)


Cherry Blue:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Blue.png)


Cherry Green:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Green.png)


Cherry Purple:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Purple.png)


Cherry Red:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Red.png)


EU - Danish:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DA.png)


EU - French:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/FR.png)


EU - German:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/DE.png)


EU - Hungarian:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)


EU - Norwegian:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/NO.png)


EU - Portuguese:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/PT.png)


EU - Spanish:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/ES.png)


EU - Swedish
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/SV.png)

I think most, if not all, of the EU layouts use commas on their numpad and not dots since that's what they use for decimals.
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Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 April 2016, 14:06:07
I think most, if not all, of the EU layouts use commas on their numpad and not dots since that's what they use for decimals.
True that we use comma as decimal separator but our numpads actually have dots and they register as such. It's extremely irking.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 03 April 2016, 14:18:01
For Swedish:
Dot or comma on numpad varies, so both goes.
As with danish, some keyboards has a as sublegend on E, but as it's also available on AltGr+5 I don't see the need for it (doesn't seem to work on my current keyboard either, so I'd say leave it out...). (Probably has to do with "nordic" layouts, so disregard).
Personally I also think that the -sub legend can be left out (as it's the only alpha sub-legend and often left out).

The legends do look a little uneven on the picture though, question mark ? and section sign looks thicker than the rest of the legends, especially the section sign in relation to the 1/2-legend which is rather thin.

Otherwise, good job! I love the 1.5 u '*-key for ansi keyboards, awesome addition for compatibility.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Sun, 03 April 2016, 14:39:57
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order

At the risk of sounding like a condescending ass, the set Ivan made is just Japanese legends slapped on an ANSI layout, there are a few important keys missing for it to be truly usable. As a first, Japanese layout uses the JIS layout (Close to ISO) and not the 104-key ANSI.

If the people ordering Japanese set, want to have a minimalistic look with Gothic font, I have absolutely no problem with that and will edit the mockups. I'm just making my services as a designer available. I will upload sample text in a few different fonts and then we can choose the one that looks best?

Gotcha, I wasn't sure about the useability but japanese is a language I look forward to learning. If you can make it a bit more minimalistic, that would be perfect!! And again, I really appreciate your effort and I do like some of your other layouts
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 03 April 2016, 14:50:38
I appreciate the work moz, but I ordered the japanese set because I like minimalistic look of the old one. Now if imsto changes it, I'll have to cancel my order

At the risk of sounding like a condescending ass, the set Ivan made is just Japanese legends slapped on an ANSI layout, there are a few important keys missing for it to be truly usable. As a first, Japanese layout uses the JIS layout (Close to ISO) and not the 104-key ANSI.

If the people ordering Japanese set, want to have a minimalistic look with Gothic font, I have absolutely no problem with that and will edit the mockups. I'm just making my services as a designer available. I will upload sample text in a few different fonts and then we can choose the one that looks best?

i also would prefer the original font (simple thin lines, no calligraphic look) for the hiragana as well.  as much as i love cherry legends font, i'm thinking it might be better to also use the original thin font for the english legends as well.  also, hopefully we can keep the pinkish-red color that was used in the original, since i think that was a large factor for the appeal of that set.

honestly, i was really just hoping for a repeat of the ivan layout since it just looked really good.  maybe imsto can offer both new (cherry legends, updated layout) and old versions?

(http://i.imgur.com/DLX6Ro2.jpg)
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Post by: azhdar on Sun, 03 April 2016, 15:05:10

EU - French:
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Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/FR.png)


Thanks for the correction on the 60% portion of the board MOZ,
although now there are errors remaining on the rest of the board:

-"Esc" Key replaced with "Echap"
-"PrtSc" is "Impr cran" (two lines) with "Syst" as side printing
- "Scroll Lock" is "Arrt dfile" (two lines)
- "Pause" sideprinting is "Attn"
- "Insert"replaced with "Inser"
- "Delete replaced with "Suppr"
- "End" replaced with "Fin"
- "Home","PgUp" and "PgDn" replaced with the arrows showed in the picture below
-  Nav cluster in the numeric pad replaced with the corrections above (Home,PgUp,End,PgDn,Delete,insert)
- "Num lock" replaced with "Verr num"(two lines)
- Numpad enter is "Entr"

Sources below, pics are the only one I've got right now, I can provide you pics of cleaned dyesubs set if you desire




(http://i.imgur.com/fWhP7O0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/phEv5hu.jpg)

Thanks a lot for doing this MOZ, are you working with imsto on this? I'm confused
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Post by: nyunyu on Sun, 03 April 2016, 15:34:05
EU - Hungarian:
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Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/HU.png)

Thanks for the mockup. :thumb:

Minor issues:
- we use comma on the numpad instead of dot
- numeric Enter is written as "Enter" instead of the arrow
- $ (AltGr-) and (AltGr-U) signs seem to be smaller than other signs
- same snowflake on the num* as the * next to the right shift?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 03 April 2016, 15:39:46
Is this the correct layout:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/40WbeZe.png)

99% accurate.
The euro glyph on the letter E is placed diagonally opposed to the E, i.e. bottom right of the key, and it's almost never shown on the number 5 key.
The curly brackets are often missing from their respective keys although they actually register like that (Ctrl - Alt - Shift).
Oops, totally forgot about the mods.
Mods are legendless (no shift, no tab, no backspace). Caps lock is usually replaced with the lock symbol and seldom with the legend "Bloc Maiusc".
The enter legend is replaced with the word "Invio".
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Sun, 03 April 2016, 15:57:34
MOZ, do you think you can post maybe two (or more) font comparison mockups for the Japanese set? Maybe one with the old font used in Ivan's GB, and another with a Gothic-style font? You also mentioned text colour. I would also like to see a Red Japanese / Black Alphabet text colour style for comparison if possible. Hope I'm not asking for too much! I'm perfectly fine with the actual layout and where all the characters are placed, but I'd like to be able to have the opportunity to vote on the font style (and colours?) for the final set.  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 03 April 2016, 16:23:02
For Swedish:
Dot or comma on numpad varies, so both goes.
As with danish, some keyboards has a as sublegend on E, but as it's also available on AltGr+5 I don't see the need for it (doesn't seem to work on my current keyboard either, so I'd say leave it out...). (Probably has to do with "nordic" layouts, so disregard).
Personally I also think that the -sub legend can be left out (as it's the only alpha sub-legend and often left out).

The legends do look a little uneven on the picture though, question mark ? and section sign looks thicker than the rest of the legends, especially the section sign in relation to the 1/2-legend which is rather thin.

Otherwise, good job! I love the 1.5 u '*-key for ansi keyboards, awesome addition for compatibility.

Oh, I just remembered that I saw this picture today:
(https://deskthority.net/resources/image/17412)
Swedish G80-3000, pretty bad resolution but still good reference for Swedish Cherry keyboard when it comes to legends/thickness/font weight (Although personally I'm more of a fan or icon legends =) )

(And just so you don't feel that you're doing work that won't be used because of MOQ, I've understood there's a few Swedes interested in this GB, so reaching MOQ isn't impossible =P)
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Post by: joostflux on Sun, 03 April 2016, 16:39:13
For the Japanese set I personally like the Japanese characters in black. As far as the typeface I am fine with either  :thumb:
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Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 03 April 2016, 17:49:07
Glad to see you taking care of the designs MOZ, and super happy to get some actual mockups!  :thumb:

I would much prefer black text Japanese with red sub legends.
Also +1 for all win8 instead of win95 winkeys.

Im honestly confused by the hole Hangul situation tho.
Im really liking the new mockup for blue subs Cherry style Hangul, but the page on imsto still shows Hangul, Cherry Style Hangul and Cherry style Hangul (+10$).
Will only the blue subs Hangul from your mockup be made or are there still different options?

Would love me some red subs Cherry style Hangul as well...  ;)


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Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 03 April 2016, 20:02:16
Please make the Japanese with red hiragana happen ^^

Both look pretty good tho.
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Post by: gadzkun on Sun, 03 April 2016, 20:31:18
i really like new design of cherry japanese set its actually very nice, ty MOZ youre the best  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:.
and i really dont mind with ivan thin text japanese too.
but please the most important thing i want to add is, if we run ivan thin japanese please IMSTO add a text legend on the numpad.
ivan japanese numpad its really dull and plain without text legend.

deym red and black legend both are good its hard to choose. im okay with anything just make one cherry japanese run IMSTO pleaseeee :-*


if imsto run 2 type of japanese, ivan thin japanese and cherry japanese.
im sure i would order both of them :thumb:
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Post by: redskull on Sun, 03 April 2016, 21:49:47
hi MOZ,

i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

other than that, i think everything is amazing and hope you can complete them all up including those klingon?  :eek: ;D

again, great job MOZ, imsto should give you some commission for these.  :p :thumb:
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Post by: geniekid on Sun, 03 April 2016, 22:39:02
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

Strongly disagree.


again, great job MOZ

Strongly agree.
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Post by: ipreferpie on Sun, 03 April 2016, 22:51:33
Hi Moz, excellent job on those mockups! It's making me wanting to buy multiple sets because of it. Here are some of my comments:


+1 love the sideprints in HHKB layout. There really isn't enough of that especially in PBT and this changes everything for me. I have a Novatouch'd HHKB and a GON60 in HHKB layout and this is perfect.
-for the Japanese layout, love the black legends and red hiragana. The black legends look better on the F-row, home keys and numpad. I slightly prefer the calligraphy font since Ivan's looks rather plain. For some reason, yours just looks more correct and Japanese. And with all the sideprints, it's actually usable to type in Japanese which I do


Keep up the good work! I'm looking to buy at least 3 sets (Japanese, Desko and Cherry Blue)  :thumb:  Do you know when Imsto would actually confirm and lock in the layouts? I'm looking to purchase once that's been set.
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Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 03 April 2016, 22:54:16
i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

Strongly disagree.

+1 disagree, sorry. Using Capslock as Control and hate when sets don't offer control as a sublegend or dedicated key.
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Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 03 April 2016, 22:59:05
hi MOZ,

i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

+1  I have to agree.  It just looks like it doesn't belong.
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Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sun, 03 April 2016, 23:02:55
hi MOZ,

i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

+1  I have to agree.  It just looks like it doesn't belong.

+1

I would rather have non sideprinted keys. it's way better to have dedicated keys for that
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Post by: Karura on Sun, 03 April 2016, 23:24:40
hi MOZ,

i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

+1  I have to agree.  It just looks like it doesn't belong.

+1

I would rather have non sideprinted keys. it's way better to have dedicated keys for that

+1

Most people joining this set prefer what was originally made by imsto/Ivan, because it was a clean set that followed the "rules" of classic Cherry set legends for the most part.

I feel that following the original style, not messing with the Winkeys, or adding extra/new side-legends to \| and Capslock and stuff is more pure and a better idea.

Also please keep in mind that there are lots of modpacks that lets you add real HHKB legend keys (look at SKIDATA+ Colour Pack for example), and having them sideprinted will look weird, because you won't be able to mix and match them, as you will end up with the same legend side-printed on a key, and then again on the key from the modpack.

tl;dr: This is the 4th round of imsto pbt dyesubs. Every round before this has been great. Don't mess with what isn't broken.
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Post by: naasfu on Sun, 03 April 2016, 23:38:59
+1 for not adding side printing to keys that didn't have it before (like capslock).

also +1 for keeping the previous ivan sets intact.  the only change that i would personally like is windows legends instead of the novelties, but keeping as-is would be ok.  and if people want updated versions, please offer those separately from the originals.

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Post by: Karura on Sun, 03 April 2016, 23:51:53
Please I would prefer something more Classic Cherry and less "novelty" like the Miami Nights mess that has random side-printed legends all over the place that do not make sense.

Using the Red Desko mockup as an example, here are my own personal opinions on what I would like to see, and I would appreciate if people could quote me and give a thumbs up to show their approval, or something else if they don't.

I feel we should be sticking with what IMSTO/Ivan has done right in the past, and not add these unnecessary (and sometimes redundant) legends to the side, or modifying the Winkey logos (the exception being a few like Miami or whatever).

YES:
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)

Original style, no frills, but looks the best/cleanest.

NO (Changes to be made to retain the original layout's characteristics):
(http://i.imgur.com/sSXg7RH.png)
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Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 04 April 2016, 00:08:41
Please I would prefer something more Classic Cherry and less "novelty" like the Miami Nights mess that has random side-printed legends all over the place that do not make sense.

Using the Red Desko mockup as an example, here are my own personal opinions on what I would like to see, and I would appreciate if people could quote me and give a thumbs up to show their approval, or something else if they don't.

I feel we should be sticking with what IMSTO/Ivan has done right in the past, and not add these unnecessary (and sometimes redundant) legends to the side, or modifying the Winkey logos (the exception being a few like Miami or whatever).

YES:
Show Image
(http://kbd.rzw.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DESKO_ML_4008_UPB_01.jpg)


Original style, no frills, but looks the best/cleanest.

NO (Changes to be made to retain the original layout's characteristics):
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sSXg7RH.png)


I agree with everything you said except the win logo. 

I can't stand the win8/10 logo, and think it doesn't belong on classic looking keycap sets.  Old menu logo + Win7, or Win95/98 all day.
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Post by: Rarabka233 on Mon, 04 April 2016, 01:08:54
hi MOZ,

i am still suggesting that sideprints on Capslock and Control be removed from sets that originally do not have them on (cyrilic, arabic, desko, etc.)

+1  I have to agree.  It just looks like it doesn't belong.

+1

I would rather have non sideprinted keys. it's way better to have dedicated keys for that

+1

Most people joining this set prefer what was originally made by imsto/Ivan, because it was a clean set that followed the "rules" of classic Cherry set legends for the most part.

I feel that following the original style, not messing with the Winkeys, or adding extra/new side-legends to \| and Capslock and stuff is more pure and a better idea.

Also please keep in mind that there are lots of modpacks that lets you add real HHKB legend keys (look at SKIDATA+ Colour Pack for example), and having them sideprinted will look weird, because you won't be able to mix and match them, as you will end up with the same legend side-printed on a key, and then again on the key from the modpack.

tl;dr: This is the 4th round of imsto pbt dyesubs. Every round before this has been great. Don't mess with what isn't broken.

+1 on all counts.

I was honestly pretty excited to be able to get the original URAL set that was in the previous group buys and I really don't like the new design for it.  More choices are nice but I don't want an outright replacement.
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Post by: infodroid on Mon, 04 April 2016, 05:16:04
tl;dr: This is the 4th round of imsto pbt dyesubs. Every round before this has been great. Don't mess with what isn't broken.

I agree with Karura. I am just after the classic designs that IMSTO has produced previously. They were clean and simple, and they aimed to reproduce classic Cherry keysets. I hope the new language layouts (Arabic for example) can maintain this tradition.

Of course I am also interested in new sets as well, like Ancient Egyptian, for example. But I wouldn't want to see the "classics" changed substantially.

As for the winkey, I agree with Karura that the Win8 logo blends in and looks better than the Win98 logo, which is way too colorful and distracting. So the Win8 logo is my first choice.

If there is no consensus on this, I can also propose using the IMSTO logo in an appropriate color for the keyset.
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Post by: VERGiL on Mon, 04 April 2016, 05:54:37
Another option would be to not use a colored win98 logo.
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Post by: lolpes on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:08:05
I agree with karura to some extent, because some of the side prints acutally allow for some more compatibility without having to get another key for it, and they look nice. The original sets do not have that kind compatibility, so if they are going to be provided, so since we are improving, then sideprinting for me is a totally valid option.

Again since we are talking about sideprinting and all, I know someone suggested peacock replica to be remade, or maybe g80-3000 SAT? is there still hope for them or was the case closed?

Peacock:
(http://imsto.cn/image/data/BSP/peacock1.JPG)

SAT:
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/3567195433_90106039_2.jpg)
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 06:21:52
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.

The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.

Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.

About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.

I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.

(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)
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Post by: Sempre on Mon, 04 April 2016, 07:18:35
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.

The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.

Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.

About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.

I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)



I like the black win98 winkey
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Post by: VERGiL on Mon, 04 April 2016, 07:47:59
I really appreciate the black winkey and fixed 0 aswell. Great work MOZ!
I'm fine with english legends on ISO boards.
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Post by: Sangscienta on Mon, 04 April 2016, 08:06:40
Would be interested to know the feasibility of a ISO-PT set, be it a full set, or a mod set. What MOQ would it have?
Layout:


EDIT: noticed there was already some suggestions on this.
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Post by: redskull on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:23:39
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.

The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.

Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.

About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.

I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)


good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt.  :thumb:

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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:33:24
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt.  :thumb:
it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?
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Post by: lolpes on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:36:50
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt.  :thumb:
it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?

Pleaso don't
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Post by: redskull on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:39:02
good job MOZ. looking for the same for Arabic, please do remove the backspace sideprint on the 1.5 pipe key and no Gr on Alt.  :thumb:
it's removed from the alpha color key, do you want it removed from the mod colored key too?

yes, that would be best. really appreciate you entertaining my whims for this set MOZ.
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 10:28:31
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?
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Post by: romevi on Mon, 04 April 2016, 10:32:47
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?

Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.

Also, MOZ, are you imsto's official liason for his sets?
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 10:37:39
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?

Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))
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Post by: lolpes on Mon, 04 April 2016, 10:46:08
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?

Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))

You spoiled us :p
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:17:42
Japanese Options

(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/JapaneseOptions.png)

Feedback welcome, in no way are these the only options.
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Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:22:45
Awesome mock up on the Japanese layout Moz! I'll say #1 is H and #2 is B.

As for the HHKB side prints any way to have them as an option? It's really hard to find anything similar and this is an answer to my prayers :)
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Post by: geniekid on Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:32:14
FYI, for those of you who, like me, want that those few extra keys that probably won't make it into the base set (HHKB, etc.), I believe IMSTO is willing to do custom keys.  I have to imagine they are significantly more expensive per key (his website quotes $3.90 for a custom 1u R1 key) but this might be something to ask him about.
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:34:46
FYI, for those of you who, like me, want that those few extra keys that probably won't make it into the base set (R3 Control, etc.), I believe IMSTO is willing to do custom keys.  I have to imagine they are significantly more expensive per key (his website quotes $3.90 for a custom 1u R1 key) but this might be something to ask him about.
You can talk to IMSTO about offering an HHKB addon. Black legends should be compatible with most sets.
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Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:40:41
H and J are both nice.
I like J more just because of thicker legends.
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Post by: Photekq on Mon, 04 April 2016, 12:11:22
B and J are my favourites.
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Post by: Relaxbro on Mon, 04 April 2016, 12:17:39
J or I definitely  :thumb:
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Post by: Villain on Mon, 04 April 2016, 12:58:56
CCCCCCC
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Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:05:53
J for Japanese :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

about hhkb side print in japanese.
i dont mind have more legend on japanese set.
but i think we should do a vote for side print on japanese too.

i really like crowded text its really "japanese" :p
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Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:13:45
J looks best, B is close second

Not sure if you want suggestions, but I'm into purple, so this would be even nicer for me:
(http://i.imgur.com/GvIZZsx.png)
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Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:43:30
J is good. Both fonts are equally balanced so it is good!
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Post by: y2bd on Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:59:45
Could we possibly have that red get a little bit more pink-leaning without going as far as the pink you have? I'd prefer a cooler red over a warm orange-y red, but I don't want straight pink.

I vote for C/D with less pink. Love the thin legends.
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Post by: romevi on Mon, 04 April 2016, 14:04:56
Regarding the Aurebesh and Klingon boards, what would people prefer, English + Aurebesh/Klingon like the Tengwar or something like in the OP?

Let's see both; I think that'll help us decide.
It's not like I have a wand, flick and boom mockup done :))

You don't?
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Post by: Villain on Mon, 04 April 2016, 14:06:00
Moz, instead of voting for 1, can we have 3 really different ones to choose from to order?
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Post by: MOZ on Mon, 04 April 2016, 14:17:39
Moz, instead of voting for 1, can we have 3 really different ones to choose from to order?

IMSTO would be the person to answer as I have no clue on the MOQ.
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Post by: nyunyu on Mon, 04 April 2016, 16:06:13
He said earlier, that the MOQ is 10.
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Post by: wilarseny on Mon, 04 April 2016, 16:15:08
Japanese Options

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/JapaneseOptions.png)


Feedback welcome, in no way are these the only options.

I really hate to be a broken record, but any way we could do a similar vote for Arabic colors? Or is the black legends / blue sublegends pretty much set at this point?
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Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Mon, 04 April 2016, 17:14:49
Isn't J the same Mincho font as before? I was hoping to avoid that...  :-[

I'm going to stay persistent in trying to replace the Mincho font, so I hope you guys don't hate me for that.
I currently prefer B over all the other choices since it looks similar to the (if not the same) font that Ivan used in his Japanese set. And evidently others also agree that Black Alphabet + Red Japanese looks nice.

However, might I suggest to all of you who prefer option J to replace the font with something else of similar thickness, without the "calligraphic" strokes to it? Because Mincho is a Serif type font family with all those tiny "strokes" at the ends, whereas Gothic is a Sans-serif type font family without all those tiny strokes.

Here is my mockup with Gothic fonts, and also showing what I mean by Mincho being a serif font (circled in blue are the "serif" strokes that make it look "calligraphic"):

(http://i.imgur.com/bghtG2Q.jpg)

Additionally, there's also the font used in the HHKB Pro 2 JP but I don't know what font face that is:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/V4gXX.jpg)


I myself, personally prefer Kozuka Gothic from the image I showed above, as it's a thick Gothic font with consistent stroke thickness.

What do you guys think?

Sorry for sounding selfish, but I really would prefer a Sans-serif Gothic font face for a keyboard as Mincho, in my opinion, really does look out of place in the sense that it has an appearance themed for slightly "calligraphic" printing or proper, professional publication purposes (something along those lines, if you catch my drift).
But, if in the end you guys still prefer Mincho font, then well... there's nothing I can really do about it and I guess I'll have to just suck it up since it's a vote afterall.
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Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 04 April 2016, 17:43:29
removed.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dyrdevil on Mon, 04 April 2016, 17:45:15
Karura, appreciate the constructive criticism. I'm not messing with the what isn't broken, but just trying to improve on them and provide something people can see before ordering, which was lacking up until now.

The side-printed legends were for our HHKB layout using brethren, however it doesn't seem like most people want it. Understood and changed in the layouts. Only key I've left it on is the mod-colored 1.5 pipe key, as that isn't part of the OG design in any case and makes sense to have it for those using 1.5U backspace such as in HHKB, TrueFox layouts. However still if members feel strongly against it, I'll remove it.

Regarding the win key, I don't think there is every going to be a consensus on it. I've tried to implement a half-way solution for those not liking the colorful win98 logo and those liking the more neutral win8 logo.

About the AltGr, I have left it for now as I think we should think about those using the sets on ISO or other language boards. I understand the language specific legends are missing. Again, if members feel strongly against it, I can remove it from the non-EU boards.

I've fixed the 0 key in the example mockup below along with the other things mentioned above.

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/04/DeskoRed.png)



+1 here for HHKB legends.  It's really the only reason I'm currently interested in this buy - I love the pbt on my hhkb and want a high-quality mx alternative to mod the board with!  I'd also be willing to pay more for custom keys, and maybe that's a better option if it's made clear it's possible.

Thanks for all your work Moz!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:17:13
Is it me or is there no option to order the regular black print?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: infodroid on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:23:12
I agree sans-serif is a better font family for the Japanese set. Kozuka Gothic looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:28:27
Please leave the HHKB sideprints, at least on the dark colored ones. This was also one of the main reasons I ordered this kit.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: joostflux on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:37:25
I must be in the serious minority. I was a big fan of either A or I.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:49:10
I must be in the serious minority. I was a big fan of either A or I.

You're not that far off alone. The only difference is the colour swap between the alphabet and Japanese characters.

But I'd still like people's opinions on Serif vs Sans-Serif for the Japanese set?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: y2bd on Mon, 04 April 2016, 18:56:30


I must be in the serious minority. I was a big fan of either A or I.

You're not that far off alone. The only difference is the colour swap between the alphabet and Japanese characters.

But I'd still like people's opinions on Serif vs Sans-Serif for the Japanese set?

I'm full on sans-serif. In my opinion the brush stroke font looks very kitschy. It really doesn't belong on something digital like a computer keyboard (which you also talked about).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rarely_upset on Mon, 04 April 2016, 19:24:20
I'm partial to D. J looks like at a glance but I see myself questioning the font after a few weeks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rddm on Mon, 04 April 2016, 19:44:32
no portuguese set in the store yet :/
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 04 April 2016, 20:01:10
G/H or I/J
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: endeavour90 on Mon, 04 April 2016, 21:53:58
I do not mind the font type for japanese set, as long as the colour is bright red rather than magenta / pinkish.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 04 April 2016, 22:23:57
i was voted J for japanese set at first but when i read ViciousWhiskers post
i must agreed with ViciousWhiskers most of the part.
the inconsistent thin lines in mincho i think would not look good in the caps.
it would look really really thin and would not be seen in the tiny keycaps.
now i really like this japanese set

(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)

it just like MOZ E & F japanese mockup, but deym i really dont like MAGENTA / PINKISH colour!

RED FTW!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 04 April 2016, 22:33:31
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to  make so many dyesub sets.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Mon, 04 April 2016, 23:02:03
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to  make so many dyesub sets.

+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Mon, 04 April 2016, 23:33:58
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to  make so many dyesub sets.

+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.

Yeah, I'm really confused as to what's going on.
Has imsto hired you on to create mock-ups of what the sets will look like? Sorry if that already has been addressed; I probably just missed it.

Right now it seems to me that you and imsto are in some agreement where you'll do the mock-ups based on feedback and the end results are what imsto will dyesub.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 05 April 2016, 00:37:28
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to  make so many dyesub sets.

+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.

Yeah, I'm really confused as to what's going on.
Has imsto hired you on to create mock-ups of what the sets will look like? Sorry if that already has been addressed; I probably just missed it.

Right now it seems to me that you and imsto are in some agreement where you'll do the mock-ups based on feedback and the end results are what imsto will dyesub.

Heres what MOZ said a few pages back, hope this helps...  :)

Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.

Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.

I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?

Also +1 Kozuka Gothic :thumb:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 05 April 2016, 00:38:35
Has IMSTO agreed to changing any of these? As is it's pretty hectic to  make so many dyesub sets.

+1 We need to know what is the actual agreement. I feel that a lot of people are confused as to what's going on.

Yeah, I'm really confused as to what's going on.
Has imsto hired you on to create mock-ups of what the sets will look like? Sorry if that already has been addressed; I probably just missed it.

Right now it seems to me that you and imsto are in some agreement where you'll do the mock-ups based on feedback and the end results are what imsto will dyesub.

Heres what MOZ said a few pages back, hope this helps...  :)

Just to clarify, I'm not just creating reference mockups, but hopefully what should be the final sets. I have been in correspondence with IMSTO about this. His previous sets were more or less designed by Ivan, who did a great job no doubt. So this is one aspect he needs assistance with.

Regarding the final keycaps on offer, I have sent him IMSTO a message, but communication isn't his strongest suite :P, still waiting to hear from him.

I think it might best to go with classic Win 98 logo on the Desko, basic Cherry legends only dyesubs and some others such as the Arabic and Miami. For some sets, such as the Hangul, Japanese, the win key is quite elegant so I'll leave it. Thoughts?

Also +1 Kozuka Gothic :thumb:

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


That answers a lot! Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 02:28:14
As FoC_Tow said, I'm sort of a liaison on this. I'll be getting feedback and making the mockups and then once the sets for production are finalized work on the precise placement, weight, etc.

The decision on what he offers in the end resides with him, he has however said in mail as well as the OP, that he is open to making changes to existing sets to refine them.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 02:29:34
Is it me or is there no option to order the regular black print?

Cherry Black:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 05 April 2016, 02:31:44
Is it me or is there no option to order the regular black print?

Cherry Black:
More
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/03/Black.png)
It's not on imstos storefront
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 02:38:53
Regarding the Japanese set, I think it might best to have two sets if possible:
1. Red-Pink Segoe UI R English -- Black Kozuka Gothic PR6N R Hiragana
2. Black Cherry English -- Red Epson Micho Bold

(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/__Japanese.png)

Again, the decision to have one or two, or whatever resides with IMSTO.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 05 April 2016, 02:44:56
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)

if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*
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Post by: s3vv4 on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:04:11
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:07:58
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!

OK now we need 10 ppl to get this passed MOQ.

please make it happen IMSTO
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:21:28
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!

OK now we need 10 ppl to get this passed MOQ.

please make it happen IMSTO

+1 I should be down for this one too then. Any chance to make side prints for HHKB layout compatible though? ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Janzzze on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:24:48
Rally like the look of this set. MOZ is doing gods work trying to please everyone.

About side printing I would personally prefer them leftout for a set going for such a classic and authentic look. A child deal with hhkb legends would be my prefered solution but I understand those who would disagree with me on this.


Dark 1.5 pipekey on ISO sets also makes sense to even make a real hhkb backspace since these sets don't even use this key normally and we still have the other one still.

If side print on capslock and control stays a child deal with non side printed plus pure hhkb legend keys for the purists like me out there may be a solution worth considering.

The non colored win key is definitely a improvement but the old style ugly menu key sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of this beautiful set.

Anyway it goes I will be ordering at the very least one Swedish set and maybe a Japanese or Hangul one while at it  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:34:01
Regarding the Japanese set, I think it might best to have two sets if possible:
1. Red-Pink Segoe UI R English -- Black Kozuka Gothic PR6N R Hiragana
2. Black Cherry English -- Red Epson Micho Bold

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/__Japanese.png)


Again, the decision to have one or two, or whatever resides with IMSTO.

ok im in for two set japanese but can we get all a red ones instead a pink :(

please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

I voted J earlier, but this seems to be the superior choice now to me too, please make it happen!

OK now we need 10 ppl to get this passed MOQ.

please make it happen IMSTO

+1 I should be down for this one too then. Any chance to make side prints for HHKB layout compatible though? ;)

i dont mind att all about side print,
but we should ask all who want to buy japanese set should we go with side print hhkb or not.
im not a hhkb user but im actually love see more crowded text on japanese set. xD
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 05 April 2016, 08:36:51
I feel uncomfortable buying into this GB with IMSTO's silence over the last few weeks.

EDIT:  Not that he won't deliver.  I have no idea what keys to expect in the final product.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 09:09:13
Here are the Aurebesh options, I've only done the 60% cluster for now for comparison.

Aurebesh and matching style English legends:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cyber.png)

Only Aurebesh:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Pure.png)

Aurebesh with Cherry legends:
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cherry.png)




The one with the Cherry legends is my least favorite as the two legends are very contrasting. The one with the matching style English legends looks best IMO.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 05 April 2016, 09:15:09
Here are the Aurebesh options, I've only done the 60% cluster for now for comparison.

Aurebesh and matching style English legends:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cyber.png)


Only Aurebesh:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Pure.png)


Aurebesh with Cherry legends:
Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/Aurebesh_Cherry.png)





The one with the Cherry legends is my least favorite as the two legends are very contrasting. The one with the matching style English legends looks best IMO.

Top or bottom for me; can't decide. I feel like the top more so because it matches the otherworldliness, and I love the orange.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Tue, 05 April 2016, 09:23:20
Regarding the Japanese set, I think it might best to have two sets if possible:
1. Red-Pink Segoe UI R English -- Black Kozuka Gothic PR6N R Hiragana
2. Black Cherry English -- Red Epson Micho Bold

Show Image
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/04/05/__Japanese.png)


Again, the decision to have one or two, or whatever resides with IMSTO.

I really like the reddish pink!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: joostflux on Tue, 05 April 2016, 10:31:07
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

Yup, agreed. Want this one. I'm in for at least one set maybe two if my wallet allows.

Now I wonder what I have already purchased on the website when I paid for Japanese haha.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: vafan on Tue, 05 April 2016, 11:01:07
No one like Ancient Egyptian set? I ordered 1 and I really want to know how it looks like
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Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 11:02:44
No one like Ancient Egyptian set? I ordered 1 and I really want to know how it looks like

I mentioned earlier, I'm waiting for imsto to send me the source of the glyphs.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Tue, 05 April 2016, 12:29:33
Hi MOZ,

Do you think its possible to notify IMSTO to create a Kozuka Gothic Pr6N BOLD set instead of the Pr6N REGULAR?

I think the current crowd favourite is this. J-styled keyset with Cherry font and thick Kozuka Gothic. Essentially the same colours and style as the Mincho set (Black alphabet, Red Japanese), but just simply replacing the Japanese font face with a thick, Gothic style font. The thick Cherry font goes pretty well with the thick Kozuka Gothic BOLD.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 05 April 2016, 12:35:53
please imsto make this
now im really like this japanese set

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


if this japanese run i will take 2 set i promise :-*

Yup, agreed. Want this one. I'm in for at least one set maybe two if my wallet allows.

Now I wonder what I have already purchased on the website when I paid for Japanese haha.

so do i. i think what we ordered now is ivan japanese set.
order should closed at 15 april.
i check it everyday to make sure im not miss a new japanese set, if imsto make it happen :rolleyes:.
so the question is will it come or not? it just 9 days to go. :p

Hi MOZ,

Do you think its possible to notify IMSTO to create a Kozuka Gothic Pr6N BOLD set instead of the Pr6N REGULAR?

I think the current crowd favourite is this. J-styled keyset with Cherry font and thick Kozuka Gothic. Essentially the same colours and style as the Mincho set (Black alphabet, Red Japanese), but just simply replacing the Japanese font face with a thick, Gothic style font. The thick Cherry font goes pretty well with the thick Kozuka Gothic BOLD.

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)


+1 YES PLEASE! :-[ :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 05 April 2016, 12:36:22
Hi MOZ,

Do you think its possible to notify IMSTO to create a Kozuka Gothic Pr6N BOLD set instead of the Pr6N REGULAR?

I think the current crowd favourite is this. J-styled keyset with Cherry font and thick Kozuka Gothic. Essentially the same colours and style as the Mincho set (Black alphabet, Red Japanese), but just simply replacing the Japanese font face with a thick, Gothic style font. The thick Cherry font goes pretty well with the thick Kozuka Gothic BOLD.

Show Image
(http://i65.tinypic.com/211kwp4.jpg)




Already did mockups, with this one :D. Will post soon
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Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Tue, 05 April 2016, 13:14:41
Aight thanks! Great, can't wait to see it.
Just one question though, if there is going to be two different sets for the Japanese set, then for those who've already ordered from IMSTO how do we pick which one we want?
To be fair, if we can get everyone on board for just a single set it'd be easier to handle this :P
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Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 05 April 2016, 20:38:10
I want to buy that gothic font japanese keyset, please let it happen :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Tue, 05 April 2016, 22:05:10
Hello friends,

I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured knowing that IMSTO will be dyesubing using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.

I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is very strictly limited to the legends that IMSTO does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.

I am happy to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with quite a few people who also had the same concerns as well, and found it odd as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs for this GB. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff, and only the good stuff. :thumb:
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Post by: redskull on Tue, 05 April 2016, 22:10:09
Hello friends,

I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.

I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.

I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:

did you talk to imsto himself? if you get in touch with him again, please remind him to properly arrange the mockups and options on his website.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Tue, 05 April 2016, 22:12:04
Hello friends,

I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.

I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.

I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:

did you talk to imsto himself? if you get in touch with him again, please remind him to properly arrange the mockups and options on his website.

Yes I managed to speak with IMSTO, but it usually requires quite some time before he replies you. Feel free to message him yourself, and he will get back to you. I'm not affiliated with this GB, just planning to participate myself, so I went ahead and contacted him the same way I just described.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Tue, 05 April 2016, 22:23:28
Hello friends,

I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured that we will see IMSTO dyesub using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.

I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is limited to the legends he does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we'll receive the original-untampered legends, including the Japanese set.

I am happy to be able to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with a lot of people who also had the same concerns as well, since it was confusing as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff. :thumb:

did you talk to imsto himself? if you get in touch with him again, please remind him to properly arrange the mockups and options on his website.

Yes I managed to speak with IMSTO, but it usually requires quite some time before he replies you. Feel free to message him yourself, and he will get back to you. I'm not affiliated with this GB, just planning to participate myself, so I went ahead and contacted him the same way I just described.

yes, been emailing him a few times and waiting his latest reply since last week.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 April 2016, 00:21:22
Karura, you're message implies that I've taken this in the wrong direction. I've only done everything that has been suggested. This is quite insulting.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Wed, 06 April 2016, 00:42:27
Karura, you're message implies that I've taken this in the wrong direction. I've only done everything that has been suggested. This is quite insulting.

I'm not sure why you would feel insulted, as I'm merely passing on the confirmation from IMSTO.

There's a large amount of people who have repeatedly requested IMSTO to confirm whether or not your mockups will be used for the final production sets, as you have to realize, there is a lot of money going into these purchases, and you can't expect people to buy something without knowing 100% what they're paying for, would you not agree?

Neither IMSTO or you have given a 100% confirmation, so I have gone ahead and done everyone a favour by communicating and getting an answer directly from the man (IMSTO). :thumb:

I feel that you've got a great design sense and your skills would be well-suited for your own group buys. I can see that you've got tons of ideas and people that appreciate it. That being said, I don't think this is the right platform for it, and you should know better than to be insulted by our difference in opinions, as I was merely passing on the word from IMSTO.
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Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 April 2016, 00:50:18
I don't want to share my email history with imsto, but my communication has been quite the contradictory. Maybe it is a language issue.

He has said, he'd like to keep the numbers of sets to a manageable size, which I have iterated since day 1, not all sets will be produced, this is just for reference.

Second, he'd like to keep the colors and font the same, he has said he should have communicated about this to me earlier, and I'll keep that in mind moving forward. He has said that improvements are welcome, such as the Japanese set missing legends on Numpad and keys to be useable as a Japanese set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Wed, 06 April 2016, 00:59:15
I don't want to share my email history with imsto, but my communication has been quite the contradictory. Maybe it is a language issue.

He has said, he'd like to keep the numbers of sets to a manageable size, which I have iterated since day 1, not all sets will be produced, this is just for reference.

Second, he'd like to keep the colors and font the same, he has said he should have communicated about this to me earlier, and I'll keep that in mind moving forward. He has said that improvements are welcome, such as the Japanese set missing legends on Numpad and keys to be useable as a Japanese set.

Once again, you are confusing the participants in this GB if you continue to state that your mockups are representative of the final products. I personally love seeing your mockups, as I find them to be of high quality, but once again, IMSTO confirmed that it will not be used for dyesubbing his keysets in his GB.

I'm not sure what is confusing about my original post. IMSTO confirmed with me that he will be using his own dyesub legends for this GB, and I just wanted to make it clear to the participants that it will be a IMSTO GB and not a MOZ GB.

Now that people are sure of what the final keysets will look like, I'm sure a lot of them will be more comfortable in placing an order. :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 April 2016, 01:10:55
Please, it was never a MOZ GB. Anyways, let's not derail this thread anymore. Imsto can post the final decision himself, he is more than capable.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 06 April 2016, 01:17:49
[...] IMSTO confirmed with me that he will be using his own dyesub legends for this GB [...]

this is very good news for me, since i had already placed and paid for an order earlier on for what i expected to be a re-release of previous IMSTO/Ivan PBT key sets that i had missed out on from the previous round.  seeing this thread revert to an interest check thread when orders were already placed was quite disconcerting and confusing.

the problem with updating keyset designs is that nearly every change is very subjective.  everyone has differing opinions on legends in terms of content, text vs symbols, fonts, etc, win keys, colors, etc etc, so any changes besides fixing very obvious errors are going to make some people happy and others unhappy.

maybe someone should make a separate IC thread for any new keyset designs?  hash it out there, and then propose any new designs to IMSTO to see whether he is interested in producing them.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ViciousWhiskers on Wed, 06 April 2016, 01:24:29
So, obviously this is IMSTO's groupbuy, but I'm slightly confused right now.

IMSTO does all the dyesubbing himself, but what would be the effect of MOZ sending the mockups he made to IMSTO?

Is IMSTO or is IMSTO not producing sets based on MOZ's legend mockups? It would clearly be different from the dyesubs that he has ran before in Ivan's group buy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 06 April 2016, 01:36:14
wise choice is to wait until 14 april (before the order closed).
me personally, already order the set cause i like ivan japanese set from the start (even with missing numpad legend text).
if there's someone want to improve the set, i always know that was for the best so im okay with it.
beside the final choice is still in IMSTO hand you guys like it or not, it just like you guys said its IMSTO GB!

we can do all we like but in the end IMSTO who decide it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Wed, 06 April 2016, 01:40:29
I'm slightly confused right now.

Right, I was also very confused, so I messaged IMSTO to confirm.

This GB will be the 4th Round of IMSTO PBT dyesubs. What that means is that while the previous 3 rounds were hosted in conjunction with Ivan, Ivan is no longer with us, so IMSTO will continue to produce these keysets as well as run the GB via his webstore.

All the keysets will look like the legends on the keysets he has been producing for the past 3 rounds. Since there are new layouts such as Red Desko, IMSTO is still going to be using his own legends to create the layout and dyesub, so we have a pretty clear idea as to what we're getting by looking at the sets he's already produced in the past.

we can do all we like but in the end IMSTO who decide it.

For sure, I wanted IMSTO to confirm for me if he was going to be using MOZ's legend mockups, since I wanted to place an order. He has already decided that this GB will be using his own dyesub legends to me over email, so I posted in this thread to notify everyone.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: VERGiL on Wed, 06 April 2016, 04:40:26
I also got in touch with imsto himself.
Thats what he said:
Quote
moz is helping me to make the mockup but not the final ones...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Pieminister on Wed, 06 April 2016, 05:31:29
Hello guys!

I was wondering if you guys have a picture of IMSTO's previous DESKO sets because I am not sure what the keyset looks like, but I am interested
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dyrdevil on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:16:21
Please, it was never a MOZ GB. Anyways, let's not derail this thread anymore. Imsto can post the final decision himself, he is more than capable.

Moz, without commenting on the circumstances I just wanted to say I really appreciated your mockups as they gave me a much better idea of the possibilities for this buy, regardless of the end result.  thanks!
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Post by: redskull on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:33:07
MOZ, can we continue in e-mail? i have some other things to ask you about. :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: jaesen on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:43:16
Hello friends,

I have confirmation that MOZ's mockups are not representative of what IMSTO is putting out, so we can all rest assured knowing that IMSTO will be dyesubing using his own legends for the most part, and not, I repeat, not the mockups that MOZ has been posting.

I assume MOZ's affiliation with IMSTO is very strictly limited to the legends that IMSTO does not currently have, such as the Arabic ones, but for the rest of us, we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.

I am happy to clear up this confusion, as I've spoken with quite a few people who also had the same concerns as well, and found it odd as to why a person unaffiliated with IMSTO was acting on his behalf and directing the legend designs for this GB. Rest assured my friends, we'll be getting the good stuff, and only the good stuff. :thumb:
Hey, thanks for this post - great detail regarding the situation.

I'm new to imsto's GBs so I'm not sure exactly how they work but based off your wording, specifically the "original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set", can I assume that the Japanese and Cherry-style Hangul will look like the ones on the front page? And would you happen to know the difference between Hangul and Cherry-style Hangul? Sorry if the answer to these questions are out of your scope of knowledge but you seem to be person with the most intel :P

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:46:48
we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.
But.. What are those "original" legends? He hasn't presented mockups/pictures for a bunch of the proposed layouts.

The issue here is not that MOZ has been confusing people; it's that people were already confused to begin with, as IMSTO has done a piss-poor job of showing us what the products will actually be. That's why I haven't placed an order.

---

Opinion and nothing more :

MOZ's mockups are superb. I wish that IMSTO would move forward with those and those alone. They are extremely well thought out, and while they may compromise in some areas to offer more layout support, they are certainly "the good stuff" in my opinion.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:51:30
we can rest assured knowing that we will be receiving the original, untampered-with legends, including the Japanese set.
But.. What are those "original" legends? He hasn't presented mockups/pictures for a bunch of the proposed layouts.

The issue here is not that MOZ has been confusing people; it's that people were already confused to begin with, as IMSTO has done a piss-poor job of showing us what the products will actually be. That's why I haven't placed an order.

---

Opinion and nothing more :

MOZ's mockups are superb. I wish that IMSTO would move forward with those and those alone. They are extremely well thought out, and while they may compromise in some areas to offer more layout support, they are certainly "the good stuff" in my opinion.

MOZ's layouts are what I hope imsto will use. I haven't ordered yet either as I have no idea what I'm ordering since imsto hasn't really said much.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 April 2016, 08:56:56
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.

By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.

Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 April 2016, 09:14:38
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.

By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.

Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.

What about Aurebesh? That's the set I want most. Since that's not available yet will it incorporate your alterations?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 06 April 2016, 09:16:02
There's been little feedback (Only you) on the colors and layout
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Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 April 2016, 09:19:43
There's been little feedback (Only you) on the colors and layout

This is the one I've grown to like most:

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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Karura on Wed, 06 April 2016, 12:11:54
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.

By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.

Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.

I just want to say that I appreciate the confirmation as I understand that you've put a lot of work into the mockups, and it really shows.

I hope there wasn't any misunderstanding regarding my intentions to find out what would be offered in the end, and hope to see more of your mockups in the future, whether it is in a different IC or GB, as I also feel the same as Photek that they're of very high quality.

Cheers :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 06 April 2016, 12:30:03
I don't want to start a fight. imsto has told me via mail that although he appreciates the modifications to the designs, he wants to keep things as similar to the OP as possible. This is because people have placed orders on the website, based on those, and doesn't wish to confuse them by changing the design now. He might do another run in the future, with proposed designs.

By keeping things same as OP, he means, same colors and same fonts. Small corrections like the arrows on the numpad in the Japanese set or addition of the missing legends can be incorporated for this round.

Regarding the exact keys on offer, I'm still talking to him about that. I won't post any more updates until I've got complete clarification from imsto about what is on offer.

really? will the numpad in jap set corrected? YAYYYYY~ 
TY MOZ :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Wed, 06 April 2016, 18:15:16
I ended up ordering Japanese, Ural and Cherry Style Hangul. Can't wait to get my hands on them.

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Post by: kaeeeede on Wed, 06 April 2016, 19:51:54
And would you happen to know the difference between Hangul and Cherry-style Hangul? Sorry if the answer to these questions are out of your scope of knowledge but you seem to be person with the most intel :P

Thanks in advance!

FoC_Tow posted this a few pages back, and to my understanding this seems to be what the difference between Hangul and Cherry Hangul will be. Hangul should be the mockup in the OP.

Didn't realize cherry style might refer to legends altho it was kinda obvious for most I guess...

So Hangul might refer to the one shown in the op which looks an awful lost like this to me:
(picture taken from md)

Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case/MD-17050_20160321121715_a9a6296c9972f78d.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)



And I imagine the Cherry style Hangul might look the same or similar to this picture by Pemdas of Imsto Hangul dysubs from an earlier round.
(mods are bluegaloo and cmyk)

Show Image
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/25946969056_691cfe57d4_c.jpg)

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Rarabka233 on Thu, 07 April 2016, 01:58:31
There's been little feedback (Only you) on the colors and layout

This is the one I've grown to like most:

(Attachment Link)

I really like this one as well, if it gets chosen I'll definitely order a set or two.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 07 April 2016, 08:28:51
so, guys, how many of you buying the Ancient Egyptian set?
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Post by: lolpes on Thu, 07 April 2016, 09:29:46
I am, but I will change to Arabic as soon as it is offered
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 07 April 2016, 10:13:01
i have a hunch that the egyptian will look good. i might pull the trigger on that one.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Antacs on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:05:38
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available?  Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?

http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:39:27
i have a hunch that the egyptian will look good. i might pull the trigger on that one.

It probably will, the mockup looks nice, but if the Arabic is offered then its end game territory for me xD
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:53:51
i have a hunch that the egyptian will look good. i might pull the trigger on that one.

It probably will, the mockup looks nice, but if the Arabic is offered then its end game territory for me xD

end game would be arabic bsp. guess imsto's saving all the good layouts for bsp later. this round there's no peacock, no hebrew.
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Post by: lolpes on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:57:32
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p
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Post by: Jumie on Fri, 08 April 2016, 02:41:52
what is cherry hangul style looks like?
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Post by: VERGiL on Fri, 08 April 2016, 06:18:29
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available?  Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?

http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Fri, 08 April 2016, 08:39:55
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p

seems like MOZ have gone quiet. next week is the deadline and no updates yet on the arabic.  :-X
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 08 April 2016, 09:06:09
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p

seems like MOZ have gone quiet. next week is the deadline and no updates yet on the arabic.  :-X

Sorry I've been real busy with work lately, I'll try and get to it on the weekend. I haven't heard much from imsto on the queries I had regarding the final keys on offer.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Fri, 08 April 2016, 09:17:10
bsp limits the layout choices greatly, and my end game is not compatible with their layout xD or else I would agree with you on that :p

seems like MOZ have gone quiet. next week is the deadline and no updates yet on the arabic.  :-X

Sorry I've been real busy with work lately, I'll try and get to it on the weekend. I haven't heard much from imsto on the queries I had regarding the final keys on offer.

good to know MOZ!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Antacs on Fri, 08 April 2016, 11:39:19
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available?  Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?

http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.

Thanks!  I really wish the photos were better organized.
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Post by: RELLIK on Sun, 10 April 2016, 00:01:17
$75 for a green hebrew set and I'd be all over this  :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 10 April 2016, 04:52:02
Anyone in recent contact with imsto?
If so, can you help inquire how long or at least a rough ETA?
Not sure which address should I use and it depends on his timeframe.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: VERGiL on Sun, 10 April 2016, 06:15:14
Just use the contact form on his website. He replied me in just one day.
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Post by: AgentZen on Sun, 10 April 2016, 07:06:22
Would love to see purple dyesubs. Just sayin.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 10 April 2016, 07:08:26
Just use the contact form on his website. He replied me in just one day.

Thanks for the heads-up, just sent him an email :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Sun, 10 April 2016, 20:40:40
So I still don't know what is what and this has like 5 days left to order? The last few pages has people talking about MOZ's mockups not being used and imsto will be using the Ivan fonts. But imsto responded in this thread to me a few weeks saying he WON'T be using Ivan's and will be using his Cherry font which is much closer to the original Cherry layout than Ivan's.

A group buy of this size shouldn't be this confusing 5 days before it ends. He should have refunded everyone awhile ago and started fresh. Even as of now there's only been 70 sets sold. I'm sure there'd be a lot more if we knew what was going on. I'm not comfortable ordering until I see exactly what is going to be printed.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jixr on Mon, 11 April 2016, 08:37:27
So I still don't know what is what and this has like 5 days left to order? The last few pages has people talking about MOZ's mockups not being used and imsto will be using the Ivan fonts. But imsto responded in this thread to me a few weeks saying he WON'T be using Ivan's and will be using his Cherry font which is much closer to the original Cherry layout than Ivan's.

A group buy of this size shouldn't be this confusing 5 days before it ends. He should have refunded everyone awhile ago and started fresh. Even as of now there's only been 70 sets sold. I'm sure there'd be a lot more if we knew what was going on. I'm not comfortable ordering until I see exactly what is going to be printed.

yeah, i want to get in on this, but i'm not sure whats what. I guess if i do i'll just throw money at it and maybe in a year or so i'll get something back.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Rarabka233 on Mon, 11 April 2016, 10:20:24
Do we know what mock-up of Aurebesh will be getting used yet?
I'd like to order a set for myself and maybe a second as a gift but I am still unsure as to what it will look like. 
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Post by: jaffers on Mon, 11 April 2016, 10:28:45
Can we get some Australian legends for this group buy?
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Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 11 April 2016, 12:55:21
still no idea what is even going on with this group buy and it ends in 4 days
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Mon, 11 April 2016, 15:15:36
Is Aurebesh going to be offered at all?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rampantandroid on Mon, 11 April 2016, 19:23:56
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available?  Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?

http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg
German ist just like the normal black print english layout with QWERTZ. I dont see an option for black english either, tough.

Yeah - wish there was actually a black option. Is it missing or is it intentionally not there?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Tue, 12 April 2016, 03:39:39
Ok so seems like Arabic finally got offered on the GB site! and also Portuguese added!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Glenmael on Tue, 12 April 2016, 06:15:42
Can we get some Australian legends for this group buy?

VB, Don Bradman, Goon, where does it end?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 12 April 2016, 08:31:36
Is Aurebesh going to be offered at all?

There's an aurebesh option on the website...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 April 2016, 08:32:27
Is Aurebesh going to be offered at all?

There's an aurebesh option on the website...

The pic, but not selectable. At least not when last I checked.
Unless it's called something else.


Edit:
Crap! Never mind! Must've been added overnight.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 April 2016, 09:31:19
Hey MOZ, looks like imsto finally added Aurebesh. Do you know if this design will be like his original mock-up or will it incorporate some of your suggestions?
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Post by: MOZ on Tue, 12 April 2016, 10:12:02
Hey MOZ, looks like imsto finally added Aurebesh. Do you know if this design will be like his original mock-up or will it incorporate some of your suggestions?

Sorry, I don't know. I've had no further communication regarding legend requirements from imsto on the Aurebesh set or any other set.
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Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 April 2016, 10:23:28
Hey MOZ, looks like imsto finally added Aurebesh. Do you know if this design will be like his original mock-up or will it incorporate some of your suggestions?

Sorry, I don't know. I've had no further communication regarding legend requirements from imsto on the Aurebesh set or any other set.

Okay, thanks. I'm going to order it and hope for the best.
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Post by: rampantandroid on Tue, 12 April 2016, 13:06:43
I'm a little confused, is there no black legend English option available?  Also, I'm thinking of getting the German set as a gift for a friend, is this it?

http://imsto.cn/image/cache/data/round4/1-500x500.jpg

Looks like black was added. Am I correct in my assumption that it'll look like this?
(http://i.imgur.com/VpFLVcg.jpg)
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Post by: VERGiL on Tue, 12 April 2016, 13:31:32
Looks like black was added. Am I correct in my assumption that it'll look like this?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VpFLVcg.jpg)

Yes, that should be it.
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Post by: soilheart on Tue, 12 April 2016, 15:40:37
I would be interested in a Swedish set, but as the only hint of how it could look is MOZ mockup (which is very close to what I'd want) and Imsto saying he's going to use the old legends I'm confused as I don't think he's done Swedish before.

I really hope this confusion clears up before April 15...
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Post by: VERGiL on Tue, 12 April 2016, 17:27:28
Just email him,  I got an reply within 24hours for both questions I had.
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Post by: RinSama269 on Wed, 13 April 2016, 05:07:29
What is the difference between DESKO and Red DESKO? It seem that the red is $10 more expensive than the non red one. Any pictures?
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Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 13 April 2016, 05:13:36
Just email him,  I got an reply within 24hours for both questions I had.

I emailed him like you said. Got nothing and it's been 2 days lol.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 13 April 2016, 21:12:44
Anyone know why blue print is an extra $3?
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Post by: Karura on Thu, 14 April 2016, 07:16:23
Anyone know why blue print is an extra $3?

I'm also wondering the same, as well as why Red Desko is $10 extra.

Regardless, I've put in my order.
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 14 April 2016, 07:45:18
Maybe blue dye is more expensive \_(_o)_/
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Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 14 April 2016, 11:30:43
so all these sets come with winkeyless mods, right?
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Post by: romevi on Thu, 14 April 2016, 11:38:48
Man, really wanted to order the Aurebesh set but it looks like I'm the only one so not sure it'll get made. Plus, I preferred MOZ's mockups and it doesn't look like the set will incorporate those.  :confused:
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Post by: lolpes on Thu, 14 April 2016, 11:41:00
I tried changing my order to Arabic, but never got a reply from Imsto :(
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Post by: redskull on Thu, 14 April 2016, 11:48:30
I tried changing my order to Arabic, but never got a reply from Imsto :(

best is to stick with the egyptian. i believe there will be extras available at his website. im backing off from ordering the arabic too, seeing that there is no mock up at all. the egyptian will look good, dont worry.
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Post by: Rarabka233 on Thu, 14 April 2016, 13:20:41
Man, really wanted to order the Aurebesh set but it looks like I'm the only one so not sure it'll get made. Plus, I preferred MOZ's mockups and it doesn't look like the set will incorporate those.  :confused:

I just ordered two sets; one for myself and a gift for a friend.  I imagine it will reach MOQ since there were also a decent amount of people in the beginning of the thread who were interested.

I prefer the some of the changes in MOZ's mockups too but the original set is also fine with me.

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Post by: Relaxbro on Thu, 14 April 2016, 14:32:29
Anyone know the color of the Cherry Style Hangul set? Would prefer to know before I order  :p
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Post by: renzpwns on Thu, 14 April 2016, 23:06:36
Just ordered a set. Hopefully everything runs smoothly for this one.
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Post by: missalaire on Fri, 15 April 2016, 00:08:45
Put in an order for Russian Cyrillic, Starcraft, and Red Print. Hope the group buy goes smoothly without any issues :x
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Post by: romevi on Fri, 15 April 2016, 00:10:04
So is there a MOQ for each set? Someone mentioned each set needs at least 10 orders to make it; is that true?
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Post by: KnivesM on Fri, 15 April 2016, 01:28:53
Ordered Japanese and Irish, hopefully all goes well and MOQs(if there are) are met for the sets.
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Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 15 April 2016, 02:15:57
Anyone who emailed imsto got any response within 48 hours?
I really want to order but I need to know a rough time frame as I'll be moving out.
So just need to know which address to use it for.
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Post by: quantrix on Fri, 15 April 2016, 02:53:32
Which option is the black printing with colored Win 95 logo?

Also, not to be rude, but what are some opinions on the quality of this PBT set versus the other two classic beige GBs with ABS double-digit from GMK? Which one has what kind if texture?
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Post by: derzemel on Fri, 15 April 2016, 03:23:16
So we can get only what's on IMSTO's website, right?

I was very interested in the Tengwar set, but it's not on the site.
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Post by: AgentZen on Fri, 15 April 2016, 05:22:19
Which option is the black printing with colored Win 95 logo?

Also, not to be rude, but what are some opinions on the quality of this PBT set versus the other two classic beige GBs with ABS double-digit from GMK? Which one has what kind if texture?

Gateron PBT (which I believe is being used in the GB) has a rougher texture than GMK in my experience. PBT does feel somewhat "special" in comparison to ABS. I like both very much, but If I had to choose one over the other, well I already have, and I prefer GMK over the EnjoyPBT set I've sold. And that is based solely on feel. Though they are both high quality and will certainly do their job for you.

edit: gentleman below me did a better job of explaining, I agree with him.
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Post by: t8c on Fri, 15 April 2016, 05:30:40
Which option is the black printing with colored Win 95 logo?

Also, not to be rude, but what are some opinions on the quality of this PBT set versus the other two classic beige GBs with ABS double-digit from GMK? Which one has what kind if texture?

Gateron PBT (which I believe is being used in the GB) has a rougher texture than GMK in my experience. PBT does feel somewhat "special" in comparison to ABS. If I had to choose one over the other, well I already have, and I prefer GMK over the EnjoyPBT set I've sold. And that is based solely on feel. They are both high quality and will certainly do their job for you.

My board has Gateron PBT RGB mods with white infilled legends and GMK alphas. GMK has a bit drier texture. Gateron is a bit more "humid" and smoother, and I enjoy the texture much more!

Gateron PBT is said to have a little rougher texture than BSP PBT (BSP also have smoother edges on the keys)

Gateron is then again said to have smoother texture than the PBT texture of Signature Plastics DSA keys. I have SP pbt, and I agree with these characterisations.
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Post by: Janzzze on Fri, 15 April 2016, 09:30:37
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.

will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))
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Post by: dorf on Fri, 15 April 2016, 11:01:47
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.

will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))

Will be interesting to see what swedish look like when it ships...  :eek:
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Post by: soilheart on Fri, 15 April 2016, 11:06:56
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.

will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))

Will be interesting to see what swedish look like when it ships...  :eek:

Agree. I just took a leap of faith and ordered a set, let's see how it turns out.
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Post by: redskull on Fri, 15 April 2016, 11:12:15
put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.

will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))

put in a order for a swedish and a cherry style hangul set.

will be interesting to see what cherry style hangul will look like in the end when it ships :))

Will be interesting to see what swedish look like when it ships...  :eek:

Will be interesting to see WHEN will they ship. my last bsp order took him 10 months.   :))
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Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 15 April 2016, 13:23:24
Well the website says "and a few weeks for the producing" but who knows what that means. I have faith in imsto regardless.
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Post by: jaffers on Fri, 15 April 2016, 13:37:47
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.

Sorry but this has been piss poor execution
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Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 15 April 2016, 16:04:37
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.

Sorry but this has been piss poor execution

imsto isn't really doing it for you. He does production mostly for the korean and chinese scene, and the fact that he bothers to open it to USA is pretty nice.
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Post by: Jixr on Fri, 15 April 2016, 17:28:15
yeah, its a no-go from me, i'll probably be moving in sept. and thats too close to a potential ship date, the one previous time i ordered from imsto my order got returned to sender due to a shipping address error
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Post by: BiNiaRiS on Fri, 15 April 2016, 17:59:12
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.

Sorry but this has been piss poor execution

Yup, i won't order just on principle. He can't even respond here to let people know wtf is going on.

If they turn out OK i'll look for an extra set or something. He always makes extras.
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 15 April 2016, 23:37:27
I ordered 3 sets... Couldn't help myself! DESKO, Miami and Cherry Hangul.
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Post by: dyrdevil on Sat, 16 April 2016, 00:04:28
the page currently shows "out of stock".. I guess it's over? 
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Post by: KnivesM on Sat, 16 April 2016, 00:14:37
the page currently shows "out of stock".. I guess it's over?
Yea he said the deadline was April 15th in the first post.
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Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 13:08:53
Now we play the waiting game...

At least I'll have Shadowvved's group buy to hold me over while I wait for this  :))
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Post by: ileben on Sat, 16 April 2016, 20:35:59
This is one of the worst group buys I will admit. Very very little information given, and not even official pictures for all of the keysets. I want desko, but without an official photo from IMSTO I'm not joining.

Sorry but this has been piss poor execution

imsto isn't really doing it for you. He does production mostly for the korean and chinese scene, and the fact that he bothers to open it to USA is pretty nice.

Yep, it is nice, truely, that he opens up to the US/worldwide market (hey, I'm from AUS hehe).  But that is not an excuse for poor execution either. And I'm not saying this in an entitled way, as if I'm taking this for granted and demand anything. No, it's just for his own good, that I think it would be good for Imsto to put a bit more effort into communication and organisation. Then again, who knows, maybe the worldwide market really is negligibly small compared to korean/chinese for him, in terms of orders, so he really doesn't care. But then again, if you never give it a proper shot, how would you ever know. He will never be able to even evaluate the full potential of the worldwide market, without really trying to approach it with a good level of dedication.
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Post by: ileben on Sat, 16 April 2016, 20:40:30
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)
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Post by: azhdar on Sat, 16 April 2016, 20:58:17
lol no mockups for half of the sets but the order is closed ???
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Post by: Karura on Sat, 16 April 2016, 21:12:30
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)

Gotta be POM, right?
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Post by: LunarisDream on Sun, 17 April 2016, 13:45:15
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)

Gotta be POM, right?

+1 for POM
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Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 17 April 2016, 19:56:08
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)

Gotta be POM, right?

+1 for POM
I need to try some POM keycaps, have loads of PBT and tried some ABS but no POM..
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Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 18 April 2016, 02:29:01
I'm in for Miami, and Cherry-style Hangul. Between this and the EnjoyPBT gb, I've got 6 PBT sets incoming. Can you tell what my favourite keycap material is? :)

Gotta be POM, right?

+1 for POM

Somewhat out of topic but, is there a chance for another POM GB to pop up from you? I missed the last one and have been itching to get a white set. Although it seems like manufacturers for them has been a little slow or MIA (looking at feng's current GB).
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Post by: missalaire on Mon, 18 April 2016, 14:55:49
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated
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Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 18 April 2016, 15:15:40
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated
Same.
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Post by: dorf on Mon, 18 April 2016, 15:18:54
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated
Same.

Got my order status updated to: GB Participated

Got that the day after I ordered. :thumb:
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Post by: VERGiL on Mon, 18 April 2016, 15:44:58
Got my order status updated to: GB Participated

Hopefully that means, that the german set I ordered passed the MOQ. Got the same update.
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Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 18 April 2016, 15:54:41
GB Participated status as well

Hopefully we get some updates on this buy as it progresses through production and shipment :P
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Post by: Pieminister on Tue, 19 April 2016, 04:50:05
Of those that took a plunge on the unknown DESKO, please post a photo when you get it.

Maybe I will take the plunge next time, but there were too many unknowns for me this time.
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Post by: dorf on Thu, 21 April 2016, 03:29:57
Hopefully we get some updates on this buy as it progresses through production and shipment :P

+1

Some news would be nice.
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Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:23:57
God damn it, I just returned from a business trip only to find out this GB is over :(

Due to all the confusion I hadn't placed an order earlier, but then was to busy to keep up with this GB.

I was interested in the Irish, Miami and German set. But well, maybe there will be extras  :thumb:
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Post by: Relaxbro on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:37:46
God damn it, I just returned from a business trip only to find out this GB is over :(

Due to all the confusion I hadn't placed an order earlier, but then was to busy to keep up with this GB.

I was interested in the Irish, Miami and German set. But well, maybe there will be extras  :thumb:

You can allways try to send him an email. Worst is he says no  :thumb:
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Post by: SJHL on Sat, 30 April 2016, 23:48:27
Damn.. I should've just joined this groupbuy. I had false hope that maybe Ivan will send my keycaps in time..
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Post by: sphinx on Mon, 02 May 2016, 10:28:59
any news or updates? my order is still with status: gb participated
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Post by: phosphoric on Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:01:14
any news or updates? my order is still with status: gb participated

patience, my friend
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Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 06 May 2016, 02:41:35
i got an email.. nice.. looks like we move into production guys.. :p :p :p :p :p
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Post by: y2bd on Fri, 06 May 2016, 03:04:40
Same here! Good to know things are moving along, especially with no real notice once the GB ended, heh.
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Post by: t8c on Fri, 06 May 2016, 06:54:43
Norwegian is in production. IMSTO  :cool: :cool:
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Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 06 May 2016, 07:12:48
Got the email as well :)
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Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 06 May 2016, 14:35:49
Just to clarify, is this the expected appearance of the Korean set? 

[attach=1]

There were some people pushing for thicker alphas.  I'd like it to look exactly as it does on that mock up and photos in Lysol's thread showed.
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Post by: sircheddar on Sun, 08 May 2016, 11:40:38
anyone who ordered an extra set of miami odessa or wants to sell theirs, i would be willing to pay a good amount over retail
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Post by: romevi on Mon, 09 May 2016, 10:20:44
anyone who ordered an extra set of miami odessa or wants to sell theirs, i would be willing to pay a good amount over retail

Be patient. imsto may have ordered extras, so I'd wait for those.
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Post by: kaeeeede on Mon, 09 May 2016, 22:43:47
Just to clarify, is this the expected appearance of the Korean set? 

(Attachment Link)

There were some people pushing for thicker alphas.  I'd like it to look exactly as it does on that mock up and photos in Lysol's thread showed.

Well we never heard anything saying otherwise so I'm leaning towards that being the set in production for the non-Cherry korean set. I of  course am in exactly the same boat as you are though and really just have my fingers crossed. if it comes out exactly like the mockup and the couple pictures I've seen this'll be going on my endgame board.
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Post by: tuco on Sun, 29 May 2016, 18:43:59
I was afraid this might happen, I am going to have to move before these ship out, any suggestions on how to contact imsto to get my address changed?
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Post by: imsto on Sun, 29 May 2016, 21:46:37
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.
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Post by: muon on Sun, 29 May 2016, 22:27:17
Got any extras?  ;D
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Post by: redskull on Sun, 29 May 2016, 23:02:54
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.

hi imsto,

any proper renders for the arabic and egyptian
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Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 30 May 2016, 01:28:06
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.


any news about production? and ETA :3
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Post by: imsto on Wed, 01 June 2016, 00:49:16
Got any extras?  ;D

no....
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.


any news about production? and ETA :3

preparing to producing.
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Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 01 June 2016, 01:49:04
Hi IMSTO. I made a mistake when ordering DESKO set instead of Arabic set. I think I already submitted refund ticket and hoped to exchange the Desko set to Arabic set. Can you confirm about that? thanks.
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Post by: beltet on Sun, 05 June 2016, 18:28:59
Got any extras?  ;D

no....
hi, back now. just been too busy.
I will try answer all the question one by one....
if you did not get the rigth answer plz send me a pm.


any news about production? and ETA :3

preparing to producing.

Hi Imsto. I have tried to send you an email, but have not yet got an answer. It's about a adress change. I'm going away for the summer and cant pick up packages from my local post office.
Sincerly.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: sphinx on Wed, 15 June 2016, 04:27:52
any updates?
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Post by: h1ggs on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:05:00
What's going on with this GB? Lack of updates are starting to irk me; considering contacting paypal for my money back :/
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: VERGiL on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:27:48
What's going on with this GB? Lack of updates are starting to irk me; considering contacting paypal for my money back :/

Imsto said he's "preparing for producing". Also, you still got plenty of time left to open a paypal case.
Even though, this is my first groupbuy, I'd say: Be patient for another few weeks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: fabricio on Tue, 21 June 2016, 05:25:14
 ;D Happy...It seems that I will receive my keycaps two months later...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rddm on Thu, 23 June 2016, 08:08:15
one and  half month to start producing, I think I will only get the caps in christmas
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: h1ggs on Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:57:01
What's going on with this GB? Lack of updates are starting to irk me; considering contacting paypal for my money back :/

Imsto said he's "preparing for producing". Also, you still got plenty of time left to open a paypal case.
Even though, this is my first groupbuy, I'd say: Be patient for another few weeks.

Yeah thanks, it's all good now.. I mean no disrespect to imsto and I'm really happy to be apart of the GB - sorry if i came off like an a-hole <3
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Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 23 June 2016, 17:20:13
b-b-b-b-but i really want it fast!!!! I WANT MY JAPANESE NOOOOWW ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ :rolleyes:

:p :p :p :p :p

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: maxmalkav on Wed, 29 June 2016, 03:06:59
Hi Imsto,

I need an address change for my order (check your message inbox :-)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 29 June 2016, 04:31:27
Hi, IMSTO. How about status update?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 July 2016, 13:57:35
Is this keyset from this GB? If so, I guess we should start seeing more soon.

https://bbs.wstx.com/thread-676914-1-1.html
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Post by: lolpes on Fri, 01 July 2016, 14:14:27
Yup, does seem like it, I got the blue version of that one :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 01 July 2016, 14:26:18
Will do anything for a green Irish set :/
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Thu, 07 July 2016, 03:28:40
any updates of this GB? Imsto pls give us new information!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: stuplarosa on Fri, 08 July 2016, 13:03:11
Anyone order an Irish(USIntl) set they would be willing to sell?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Sat, 09 July 2016, 19:51:57
Why is it so hard for this guy to post an update? Is he that busy? I'm getting a bad feeling from this, like he's pulling an ivan
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hqnam on Tue, 12 July 2016, 22:12:12
Any update about this GB?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: infodroid on Thu, 14 July 2016, 05:50:18
The new Originative "Modern Beige" group buy looks very similar to IMSTO's design. I wonder if they are working with IMSTO on this one. https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige
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Post by: soilheart on Thu, 14 July 2016, 06:02:13
The new Originative "Modern Beige" group buy looks very similar to IMSTO's design. I wonder if they are working with IMSTO on this one. https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige

I don't think so. If you look earlier in this thread MOZ proposed some new designs, but imsto choose to go with the old ones. So I guess MOZ went to Sherry/originative instead.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 14 July 2016, 07:07:27
Just to clarify, imsto didn't exactly choose to go with his own designs, he was just not communicating properly (Something that can be see in this thread too). Sherry and I were discussing about something, and thought it would be a good idea to make some new PBT designs with better compatibility with various layouts. Nothing personal.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Thu, 14 July 2016, 08:01:35
Didn't mean to imply it was personal, just stated what I've seen from earlier in the thread.

I wish you good luck and hopefully you'll include ISO next time ;)
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Post by: MOZ on Thu, 14 July 2016, 08:09:00
I know you didn't, but it is something, people may very easily draw from the situation.

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 14 July 2016, 10:42:18
just hoping imsto finish this GB more faster than originative, please imsto im waiting here. xD
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 16 July 2016, 13:08:44
where is our keycaps? Imsto? pls answers
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: fabricio on Sun, 17 July 2016, 03:33:51
I bought Japanese 133 Set on April 2nd,2016...It seems like that need to wait for 6 months....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Mon, 18 July 2016, 02:22:56
"Notice: It's a group buy, so the stuff will be send after the deadline (April 15)and a few weeks for the producing"

How many weeks are a few weeks? My keyboard is ready now!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 18 July 2016, 13:42:10
Yeah, a simple and quick update would be pretty nice...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: y2bd on Mon, 18 July 2016, 13:57:37
Well GH says that IMSTO was last on GH this morning so I'm just going to assume that there's been no updates :thumb:

Someone else posted upthread that he mostly keeps to Chinese forums (his core customers?) and he himself has jumped in a couple of times saying that he was busy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hKing on Tue, 19 July 2016, 08:46:53
The sets are still in production.

I mailed him last night and he replied that his mother was / is sick. This is the reason for not posting an update in this thread.
He'll do this in the next few days or so...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Tue, 19 July 2016, 09:23:18
The sets are still in production.

I mailed him last night and he replied that his mother was / is sick. This is the reason for not posting an update in this thread.
He'll do this in the next few days or so...
Excellent update. Hoping for the best :cool:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Tue, 19 July 2016, 20:49:49
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: y2bd on Tue, 19 July 2016, 21:01:55
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.
Oh no . I wish her a speedy recovery, hang in there!
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Post by: redskull on Tue, 19 July 2016, 21:43:25
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.

that's very heavy man.

wish you and your family all the best.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 20 July 2016, 02:41:20

More
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.


Man, I feel bad that I just emailed you asking what the status was... No pressure!  Family first.  ALWAYS.  Thank you for the update.
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Post by: beltet on Thu, 21 July 2016, 02:29:58
Thanks for the update. I wish your mother a well recovery, and don't burn yourself out. Take your time.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 28 July 2016, 09:24:35
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.

Imsto, i sent you an e-mail. please respond when you can. thanks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 July 2016, 19:21:59
hi guys, I'd been not on line for a few days since my mather got breast cancer and now is in the recovery period
the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.
also got some problems since the ISO enter is still ready but I am working on it.

I am deeply sorry to learn about your mom's health problems, I really hope she gets better soon.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Sun, 31 July 2016, 08:42:11
hi imsto,

please check your e-mail, i need your reply/response.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Wed, 03 August 2016, 20:53:24
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:08:07
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:10:18
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.

I think he's referring to imsto's mom, who is the one imsto claimed has been ill.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:22:52
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.

I think he's referring to imsto's mom, who is the one imsto claimed has been ill.

oh lol, sorry for that guys!  :confused: :p
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:36:38
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.

So was Ivan the mod and look how that turned out. You can't really blame me for not easily trusting in people
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: redskull on Thu, 04 August 2016, 02:18:16
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.

So was Ivan the mod and look how that turned out. You can't really blame me for not easily trusting in people
i know, thats why i said im not backing him up. its entirely up to you to either wait or dispute him. whatever you decide, its your own money and everyone would understand.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 06 August 2016, 13:30:48
imsto, any new update?
are you producing or not (yet)?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sat, 06 August 2016, 14:24:34
imsto, any new update?
are you producing or not (yet)?

the keycaps was delayed but now is producing.

???
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 August 2016, 17:56:07
I would also like an update and expected time frame.  An update once a month isn't too much to ask is it?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kimanageer on Tue, 16 August 2016, 10:07:25
Sorry, are there anything news ?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Tue, 16 August 2016, 12:16:17
can i get my money back?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hKing on Wed, 24 August 2016, 10:41:30
... at least.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 25 August 2016, 03:18:04
... at least.

Finally an update. Has he gotten a new email address ?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 31 August 2016, 23:49:49
still waiting.. what time you'll be done?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: renzpwns on Sun, 04 September 2016, 18:13:51
Would be nice to get my set before Modern Beige ships...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 18 September 2016, 17:47:50
How about an update now? It's been almost a month since the last one at this point.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Mon, 19 September 2016, 06:49:43
i really want my keycap :( bring it to me now.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kimanageer on Mon, 19 September 2016, 23:04:32
At least, you have to tell us some production update.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: austino256 on Tue, 20 September 2016, 11:08:06
It's getting around the un-refundable date for PayPal and I'm getting antsy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Tue, 20 September 2016, 19:53:20
It's getting around the un-refundable date for PayPal and I'm getting antsy.

Yeah, it's been 5 months, and the lack of communication here is really off-putting.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:16:44
Imsto can i get a refund?  im getting tired of this if theres no update.
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set.  :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:30:25
It is a shame that the buy is not moving forward, the sets are quite nice.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: y2bd on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:48:20
Yeah this is kind of disappointing. I feel like I expected this coming in, but actually happening vs expecting are completely different...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Wed, 21 September 2016, 05:30:32
Has anybody had contact with Imsto lately? I sent him an email asking about progress but no answer.
His profile says "Last Active: Sat, 17 September 2016, 21:00:49". It would be nice with some kind of update on what's going on.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Butter on Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:49:01
So it have been 2 months since the last update. If I don't get anything solid I think I'll do a dispute soon.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: austino256 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 16:37:44
So it have been 2 months since the last update. If I don't get anything solid I think I'll do a dispute soon.

I will be doing the same
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:49:05
So it have been 2 months since the last update. If I don't get anything solid I think I'll do a dispute soon.

I will be doing the same

+1
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:59:31
It's a nice and very complete set, it even included a 6x spacebar. I wonder why it is taking so long. Maybe the numerous layout options? I would be happy to take someone's else spot, but I've already a lot of gmk sets coming my way.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 22 September 2016, 23:49:46
Dang, everyone is freaking out (rightfully so, since vendors need to communicate regularly). Ivan PBT R4 (produced by imsto) which had the same set options took about 8-9 months to produce and ship, so I don't think you need to worry too much at this point.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Thu, 22 September 2016, 23:52:16
The lack of communication is always worrying, for balance and in all fairness I always have gotten what I had bought from IMSTO.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 23:58:21
I can't say much currently, 3 weeks ago was the last time I had a message from him (for an email I had sent maybe 3 months ago). I know recently he was going through very emotional family issues, but I believe that production isn't finalized yet or else he would have commented. I believe a few members on here know imsto better and they would have spoken up if anything was off
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Fri, 23 September 2016, 00:24:11
Dang, everyone is freaking out (rightfully so, since vendors need to communicate regularly). Ivan PBT R4 (produced by imsto) which had the same set options took about 8-9 months to produce and ship, so I don't think you need to worry too much at this point.

Yeah, it may take a while, but considering that this buy started during the whole Ivan fiasco, I think it's just adding to the uneasiness.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 27 September 2016, 06:39:21
I just hope we get the set before new year.. can u do it for us Imsto?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: popkorn62 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 00:13:51
well I ordered 3 sets, f*ck me I guess...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Wed, 28 September 2016, 04:07:52
I am very sorry but I have filed a dispute. I really wish there is going to be a way to still get my caps but it's been almost 5 months since my order status was updated to "Producing" and really nothing happened. Taking 10 minutes to update this thread or my order status could have given me much more confidence in this GB but with a GB runner missing in action, I would later regret not having tried this. I don't want my money back, I want my caps ... it's 200$ on the line for me personally.

My dispute window closes on the 5th Oct so I really just had very few days left.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:07:28
So has anyone heard from imsto at all still?..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:29:05
My paypal refund time limit is over at October 18th, 2016. So unfortunately I have to file a dispute.....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 10:00:52
i'm not sure but someone said that imsto might be producing.. and gonna finish job in 5 to 6 week more. week 8th week 9th maybe on your hand.
i'm anxious to get my keycaps.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:54:25
I sent a change of address request in early June to Imsto's email, as well as PM here, still no response. Doesn't exactly give me a lot of confidence. I might be on the dispute train too.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: austino256 on Sun, 02 October 2016, 22:23:30
I'm sadly on the dispute train. Wish I didn't have to do to :( my money doesn't feel safe anymore.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 October 2016, 22:40:24
Imsto should really come back here and let everyone know what is going on.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Khers on Tue, 04 October 2016, 02:48:16
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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: splitfile on Tue, 04 October 2016, 06:05:19
I have also filed a dispute. Really sad because I was looking forward to this set.  :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 09:43:32
Today is my last day to open a dispute. I am SERIOUSLY considering it..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Tue, 04 October 2016, 10:11:22
I filled a dispute yesterday. Sent an email a few weeks ago asking for status and never got a reply so I feel like I've given him a fair chance.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: WCO1 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 16:10:25
 its not that hard to come here and post an update now and then. letting people know what's going on. i dont feel like taking a gamble on this one so i filed a dispute today.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 October 2016, 16:52:18
I am not into the buy; but, I feel compelled to share my grain of salt regarding the lack of responsiveness IMSTO has shown lastly, I really hope he soon post an explanation and commit to fulfill the orders. I respect the guy, but nothing justify to be silent and considering this behavior filing disputes are unavoidable. Under the circumstances the disputes are justified and he should understand that no one want to risk loosing hard earned resources.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Tue, 04 October 2016, 17:50:10
I really hope this ends up working out.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:14:15
Id have no problem if he was able to do something like refunding worried users and then rebilling them. Not sure if that is allowed with paypal though. I realized my deadline isnt the 4th, it is the 14th so I have a little more time, but if something doesn't happen very soon I will be following with others and asking for a refund.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: building_an_ergo on Wed, 05 October 2016, 02:21:26
I have two days left to file a dispute.  Hopefully there is an update by then.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Fri, 07 October 2016, 03:33:32
He finally responds to my email
"
hi

everything is ok, there's a little problem I am trying to figure it.
"
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:00:09
Mailed him once more, praying for a response. I need those Dye Subs!!!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:29:59
I got a email today aswell. He just replied a short answer to an old email I have sent. So i replied just now with a request on status update.
Problably imsto's inbox is quite full and I wont get an answer today.
Anyway, seems like he's still here. I think I will withdraw my dispute if more emails drop in or he posts here.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 07 October 2016, 04:55:55
I still have ~7 days to settle/cancel my dispute, really hoping for an answer during that time. If you can read this IMSTO, make a noise bro!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Fri, 07 October 2016, 14:36:47
It would be very nice with an update on progress. I also got the exact same answer. What problem? Iso enter?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 07 October 2016, 21:55:12
thank you.
I really hope Imsto isn't making her sickness up as a distraction to pass the PayPal guarantee window. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes of your time in weeks to give us an update as we all have money in this. I have had heard many scammers coming with excuses to delay time in the past so I really hope you're not lying to us as bad as this sounds

first of all, imsto is a guy.

second, he is very well known of fulfilling orders way past the paypal claim timeframe. i got my stuff after 10 months. some even longer.

third, i am not backing him up, i would just like to point out things though. it is up to you to do what you think best, it is your cash and nobody would ever disagree with whatever decision you would take.



I am back now, everything is okay but there's small problem, I am trying to figure it.
Since my mon was sick and still treating, also my little daughter was born, and.... moved to a new place almost no place to use the computer.
The producing just started for a long time, all the layout will be tiny change too.
before shipping I will send a mail to everyone to confirm the address.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 07 October 2016, 21:56:22
now will answer all the questions here and 183 emails.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:15:33
Welcome back, it is very nice to see you around again, hoping your mom gets better in no time and your baby daughter be well, also.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:16:07
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:19:22
... at least.

Finally an update. Has he gotten a new email address ?
I have 3 email for different use.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:20:28
Imsto can i get a refund?  im getting tired of this if theres no update.
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set.  :(
Sure 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:44:49
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?
should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:59:18
Imsto can i get a refund?  im getting tired of this if theres no update.
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set.  :(
Sure

thanks for coming back and give us the update. glad if we can talk this up cause i really dont like doing a dispute.
im willing to wait for 5 more weeks but please give us an update if theres a delay or maybe something cause we really need to know.
and again thanks for the update,  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Sat, 08 October 2016, 00:24:31
all the layout will be tiny change too.

I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Sat, 08 October 2016, 00:53:10
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?
should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.

Thanks for the update. I cancelled my claim. With 3-5 weeks production and e few week of shipping I will have my caps around christmas then?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:32:46
Thanks imsto for coming here, so when is the Eta approximately?
should be arround 3-5 weeks at least.

Thanks for the update. I cancelled my claim. With 3-5 weeks production and e few week of shipping I will have my caps around christmas then?

I think so
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:33:09
all the layout will be tiny change too.

I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.

very small change, you will even not find it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:39:56
Closed my PP dispute. Glad to see you're back IMSTO. Hope you're doing good!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Sun, 09 October 2016, 04:20:01
all the layout will be tiny change too.

I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.

very small change, you will even not find it.

The ISO users would very much like to see a mockup of how our dyesub legends will look. Will there be text+icon legends on the modifiers or icon only on shift, enter, tab, caps lock etc like pictured below?
(https://s21.postimg.org/hw0nyenbb/Keyset.png)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: WNovizar on Sun, 09 October 2016, 04:34:03
Imsto can i get a refund?  im getting tired of this if theres no update.
Or maybe someone want to take my spot, 1 japanese set.  :(
Sure
Please refund me too. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: renzpwns on Sun, 09 October 2016, 06:35:18
Would also like a refund, in need of some extra money now.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Mon, 10 October 2016, 21:09:13
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:00:59
Just closed my dispute, so you'd better deliver now ;)

(With decent Swedish legends, or I'll be really disappointed).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: austino256 on Sat, 15 October 2016, 15:20:24
I accepted my refund, but if IMSTO finishes my order, I would love to pay him back for it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Sat, 15 October 2016, 15:50:24
all the layout will be tiny change too.

I'm sure people are going to want to know what's being changed. If it's anything significant I'm sure some people might not be happy.

very small change, you will even not find it.

The ISO users would very much like to see a mockup of how our dyesub legends will look. Will there be text+icon legends on the modifiers or icon only on shift, enter, tab, caps lock etc like pictured below?
Show Image
(https://s21.postimg.org/hw0nyenbb/Keyset.png)



I'd keep using the double shot set, over any PBT one, by all means.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Willyc277 on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:02:32
Would looooove to pick up an Irish set
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 18 October 2016, 13:16:30
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.

Emailed requesting refund.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 18 October 2016, 13:26:15
Please, can we have some pictures of production? It would help a lot.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kanjii on Wed, 19 October 2016, 13:04:57
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.

I have mailed you about refund about a week ago...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 26 October 2016, 00:03:30
seen this on kbdlab

(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)

is it imsto pbt?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 26 October 2016, 01:33:39
right here waiting, is he getting it done?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 26 October 2016, 23:16:13
seen this on kbdlab

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)


is it imsto pbt?

no
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 26 October 2016, 23:16:36
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.

I have mailed you about refund about a week ago...

yes
just got it. and will handle it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 28 October 2016, 12:21:25
got this from LD ZZ96 Thread

http://sli.mg/a/Izj02v

its nearing completion :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gogusrl on Fri, 28 October 2016, 12:40:38
Imsto, will you post all the canceled orders on your website ? I'm itching to get my hands on any of the sets.

thanks
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 28 October 2016, 12:51:34
got this from LD ZZ96 Thread

http://sli.mg/a/Izj02v

its nearing completion :thumb:
:OOOOOOOO
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 28 October 2016, 12:54:13
I am so sorry I doubted IMSTO, I am not worthy!

Wish I ordered more!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 October 2016, 14:15:27
Are windowed keys still going to be included in these sets?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Fri, 28 October 2016, 15:06:17
seen this on kbdlab

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)


is it imsto pbt?

no

Thank god! Those looked awful..
Looking forward on pictures on yours imsto
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sat, 29 October 2016, 05:25:32
some of the keys with bad quality photos
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rddm on Sat, 29 October 2016, 07:32:34
Thanks for the update IMSTO, any ETA?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 29 October 2016, 11:32:24
some of the keys with bad quality photos


Best update so far, many thanks? when will you ship?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 30 October 2016, 02:09:59
seen this on kbdlab

Show Image
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/474/967/003/d60ccbe90fd088a31706fa16086aa2b7.jpg)


is it imsto pbt?

no

Thank god! Those looked awful..
Looking forward on pictures on yours imsto
IMSTO has the reputation for producing some of the best dye sub keysets in the industry/community.  I'm sure we will not be disappointed when we get them and it will all be worth the long, exhausting and sometimes frustrating wait.  ;D   Nah, just messin IMSTO, I know you had your reasons.  I wish you and your fam the best!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Sun, 30 October 2016, 04:43:36
Any chance to add cherry windows keys to my order?

(http://i.imgur.com/A4BsHaG.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 30 October 2016, 17:09:54
Any chance to add cherry windows keys to my order?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/A4BsHaG.jpg)


Would have bought those if I'd seem them as an option.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sun, 30 October 2016, 17:52:23
Starting to salivate...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Sun, 30 October 2016, 20:51:50
wow i already forgot about this buy and just remembered i should have an odessa set. Hoping this will push through and to be completed soon.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Tue, 01 November 2016, 13:03:52
More images (from the ZZ96 thread) -> http://sli.mg/a/Izj02v

(https://i.sli.mg/4mKuMd.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/uS2cfI.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/flitxW.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/xxOgqc.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/dI9cni.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/xtbHTR.jpg)

(https://i.sli.mg/c1lz4G.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 01 November 2016, 17:06:46
Thanks for updating us here, imsto!




 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Fri, 04 November 2016, 11:52:56
imsto: will you give those of us that have requested an address change a confirmation that you received our requests?

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Fri, 04 November 2016, 12:30:41
Did the Star Wars Aurebesh set get made?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 10 November 2016, 12:19:21
How much longer will this take? I'm starting to get antsy.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Mon, 21 November 2016, 02:14:39
How much longer will this take? I'm starting to get antsy.

Me too! Any updates?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 23 November 2016, 02:56:02
almost a month since imsto posted lastest update. Pls tell when will i get the keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 23 November 2016, 03:26:38
i wanna see my odessa before xmas :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: enso1947 on Fri, 25 November 2016, 23:41:30
can one still purchase a set, any left overs?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Sat, 26 November 2016, 04:05:22
Paypal dispute windows is closed, just be patient. We all put our faith into IMSTOs hands and have to let go ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 27 November 2016, 12:12:39
I just don't understand why it's so hard to spend 5 minutes a month on quick updates.  Good news or bad news, knowing what's going on is almost always better than being left in the dark. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kanjii on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:16:16
those who want to make the refund plz send me a email.

I have mailed you about refund about a week ago...

yes
just got it. and will handle it.

Still no REFUND!!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Tue, 29 November 2016, 23:13:27
This isn't looking good at all.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 30 November 2016, 03:38:27
No it isn't.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 30 November 2016, 03:41:43
 :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Thu, 01 December 2016, 19:41:14
Yeah this really sucks...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 01 December 2016, 22:26:17
hi guys, now has a very bad news.
Gateron (or Enjoypbt ) unilaterally terminated our cooperation. So now the GB round4 was forced to change into the 117 layout.

Here, I would like to say that I am very sorry to get the situlation.

If you still want the keys then you will get the keycaps and 7$ refund.
or I may make the full refund.
So,  do not worry about your money,  if you need a full refund, please send a mail to imsto@msn.com.
Title please use like this: *****GB Round4 Refund*****
the email should mention your orderID and the mail address etc.

also, if you want to change the address plz send me the mail too.

This happens out of my plan, so I am ready to make the molds and the cap myself, hope to be able to provide nice stuff for the enthusiast.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 02 December 2016, 02:16:53
Just please send me the keyset...like now..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 02:34:45
hi guys, now has a very bad news.
...

Well ... any update is better than nothing I guess!

Does this mean that ISO & 1800 layout as well as windowed caps are basically dropped?

Did I get you right, you are planning on making your own caps/molds in the future? I mean not that it matters much for us now but just as an outlook...

Anyway, I am keeping my order, I just wonder how such a fundamental development can happen long after pictures of bagged keycap sets were posted. Has this happened a while ago and we just learn about it because all attempts at solving this failed?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Fri, 02 December 2016, 03:40:50
IMSTO: please offer the missing keys as a separate pack later so we can get the full 133 keys at some point
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 02 December 2016, 04:01:51
hi guys, now has a very bad news.
...
Well this sucks, I have the same question as Wodan (whom btw, was very polite in giving the benefit of doubt here): What were those photos of bagged caps then?

Regardless, **** happens.  I'm happy you're updating us! :thumb:

Is there an ETA on this?  Now that you have 16 keys less per order, it should be pretty soon right?  I mean, I know you ran into some personal troubles etc (which is understandable) but have you even started producing them yet?

Those 16 extra keys were what made these sets so cool and a good deal but I too will keep my order if you give us a realistic timeline.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: soilheart on Fri, 02 December 2016, 05:40:50
Oh.

So I waited over 6 months in vain for my fully compatible Swedish PBT set... *sigh*

Well. Thank you for being honest and open with the situation.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 05:42:53
Oh.

So I waited over 6 months in vain for my fully compatible Swedish PBT set... *sigh*

Well. Thank you for being honest and open with the situation.

What are you missing bro?

Not like I haven't got 10 SAD sets laying around ...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pomk on Fri, 02 December 2016, 07:55:17
Oh.

So I waited over 6 months in vain for my fully compatible Swedish PBT set... *sigh*

Well. Thank you for being honest and open with the situation.

What are you missing bro?

Not like I haven't got 10 SAD sets laying around ...
You do? And here I thought that I was in the same situation as soilheart.
Just to be clear, these are in SWE/FI layout? I know how to get german PBT immeadiately from stock.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:07:22
the baged keyset are the base 113 keys waiting for the iso enter keys etc.communicted for a very long time but no response.
so, i decide to tell you the real fact whats happening.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:09:13
Hm. Makes sense to me. Do you need an email to ship our stuff?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:34:34
if still want the keyset then do not need to send me the mail.
but i will wait for arround few weeks to see if anybody want the full refund before i sent the packages.
I will try send the mails to everyone but not sure everybody will get it since sent the same mail a lot time might  get lost some of them.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:43:12
I sent you an email with my order number confirming that I don't want the full refund.

The earlier you can ship my order the better ... no need to wait for anything :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:45:15
please don't make me wait more.. I don't want a refund, I just want my keyset. Please send it asap order #1306  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:53:29
Thank you very much for the update imsto
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:56:29
Just sent email asking for refund.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: stupidhurtingfeet on Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:49:00
That is really too bad, especially because I need those keys that are no longer included in the group buy.

I just sent an email for a refund.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 02 December 2016, 22:59:59
is the keycaps ready to ship or still in production?

nvm, im already sent email for a refund thou, thanks imsto :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 03 December 2016, 09:19:04
i just want to know exactly time you will ship.. 1 week, 2 weeks?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: vafan on Sat, 03 December 2016, 09:53:25
2017

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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: vafan on Sat, 03 December 2016, 09:54:09
i just want to know exactly time you will ship.. 1 week, 2 weeks?
20.......xx

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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: jacht on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:35:26
What's the difference between 113 and 117 layout?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:35:55
What's the difference between 113 and 117 layout?

Four keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 05 December 2016, 10:12:26
What's the difference between 113 and 117 layout?

Four keys.
LOL
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 05 December 2016, 13:20:40
the baged keyset are the base 113 keys waiting for the iso enter keys etc.communicted for a very long time but no response.
so, i decide to tell you the real fact whats happening.
Makes sense to me too.  Thank you for being honest.  Now maybe I can get these in time for my Duck Viper/Eagle builds.  Hmmm.  If we know we want them can you ship sooner than a "few weeks"?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: jaesen on Sun, 11 December 2016, 00:59:44
Sent in my e-mail regarding the refund. Sorry for the bad news, imsto :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: vafan on Sun, 11 December 2016, 08:00:39
Lucky for me. I got my refund from my GB's header

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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ComandaPanda on Sun, 11 December 2016, 19:18:08
Any chance of extras being available? Id really be interested in a ural set.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hqnam on Mon, 12 December 2016, 03:10:49
are you continue producing the products? Or all is done and ready to ship?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 12 December 2016, 09:12:01
 Is someone already refunded?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: stupidhurtingfeet on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:27:54
Is someone already refunded?

Nope, I emailed roughly 10 days ago and have not received a response yet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:35:28
No response on the address change either.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: splitfile on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:39:17
No refund here  :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:41:20
No caps, no refund, no word from Imsto. This is going great.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kanjii on Tue, 13 December 2016, 12:13:37
Sent the first mail about requsting refund in october...  and i have sent 2 more, but no reply or refund.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 15 December 2016, 00:25:45
hi guys
I will handle all the refunds request ASAP, don't worry.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 15 December 2016, 02:20:52
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Fri, 16 December 2016, 03:40:23
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?

I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 16 December 2016, 03:41:12
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?

I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.
Imsto can u check my pm pls. Thanks

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Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 18 December 2016, 23:53:08
I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.
Well I hope this is for real.  In two short months it will have been a year.  I would really loves these by the time the Duck Viper/Eagle drops.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sun, 25 December 2016, 21:23:33
there is no time able to get the keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: h1ggs on Wed, 28 December 2016, 09:50:19
there is no time able to get the keys?

You really want to get in on this GB? Have you not read the thread lol

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 29 December 2016, 20:22:17
start the shipping today.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 29 December 2016, 20:22:38
together with the refund request.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 29 December 2016, 21:05:08
start the shipping today.

Finally.. hope to receive it soon
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 01 January 2017, 12:54:23
Hell yeah!  Finally!  Maybe I will get it in time for the Eagle/Viper after all!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: brianjking on Mon, 02 January 2017, 16:21:03
Any chances to get a set of the Irish or Miami Odessa?

If so, how?

Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Mon, 02 January 2017, 18:26:04
Imsto did you get my address change request?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: bfjohee on Sat, 07 January 2017, 10:05:54
Imsto did you get my address change request? (2)

already email 4 times.. sended
(njohee@naver.com)

... no request :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: runcom on Tue, 10 January 2017, 04:45:57
imsto, any chance you still have a cyrillic (orange on cream color) set available?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 10 January 2017, 05:39:29
When will u start shipping the keyset for those who don't prefer refunds?

I am packaging the keys one by one and together with the refunds.

hi guys
I will handle all the refunds request ASAP, don't worry.


start the shipping today.

together with the refund request.

Have anyone recieved anything yet? Caps? Refund?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 10 January 2017, 06:05:03
Nope... No notification either from his store if my keyset has been sent
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 00:23:41
imsto, any chance you still have a cyrillic (orange on cream color) set available?

I don't want to sound like a ****, but have you read anything in this thread? There's little to no communication, people are asking for refunds left and right... Do you actually want to be a part of this?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:39:14
does anyone get it?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 16:38:15
does anyone get it?
ofc not

An ACTUAL update would be great at this point...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 16 January 2017, 21:47:27
so unfortunate about this gb and was so excited to get my odessa which would never come true anymore :'(

Imsto, if you can please update all the participants of this buy please :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 17 January 2017, 04:19:38
looks like everyone still doesnt get the refund (so am i) :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 17 January 2017, 12:37:46
IMSTO - you said you were shipping right before the new year, but no news since... WTF is going on?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 17 January 2017, 13:02:50
IMSTO - you said you were shipping right before the new year, but no news since... WTF is going on?

I got answer on email today that refunds will be handled in two days and that Imsto will be here tomorrow to answer.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 18 January 2017, 22:14:36
Imsto, pls communicate..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sat, 21 January 2017, 09:00:34
Not looking good..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sun, 22 January 2017, 12:23:01
it's almost 1 Year since imsto started this GB and nothing seems to be right.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 22 January 2017, 20:35:34
I am back, did realy handling, but Jan 18, bad things still happening, my wife had a car accident and be in the hospital for these days, now she's back home to rest.
I will keep make the refund and shipping.
this year too many bad things happened to me.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 22 January 2017, 20:46:58
**** 2016

1 Ivan got the black keys and leave
2 Gateron (or Enjoypbt ) unilaterally terminated our cooperation
3 the last 200 keyset still got problems
4 Mom Mammary cancer, still radiotherapy everyday
5 father-in-law sick, be in the hospital for a few days
6 two kids went into the hospital one by one, again and again.
7 wife had an accident
The only good thing maybe, is the second little now 1 years old.

whatever, no excuse,  life still going. keep working.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 January 2017, 20:50:11
I am deeply sorry to learn about the multitude of problems you has faced recently. Hoping for everything to get better.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 22 January 2017, 21:34:16
sorry to hear that imsto.. hope you can handle all that well. family comes first.

about the keyset, will you update the shipping status on your store?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sun, 22 January 2017, 21:51:45
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016...  so...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Mon, 23 January 2017, 04:15:26
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016...  so...

yes some of them. but not all of them yet.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Tue, 24 January 2017, 08:58:50
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016...  so...

yes some of them. but not all of them yet.

some of keys has shipped, but why no one didnt receive it yet?
Can you show us some pictures of the keys?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:08:34
2016 was **** year for everyone I think...  Is there a timeline projection at this point?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 02 February 2017, 00:45:09
would appreciate if you could give us shipping timeline imsto....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Thu, 02 February 2017, 04:54:20
imsto, sorry i'm not try to disrespect but i have to ask you. you said you had shipped the keys from december 29 2016...  so...

yes some of them. but not all of them yet.
Hi, man. How it goes with refunds?
I send requests couple of month ago. Still nothing :-[
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kanjii on Thu, 02 February 2017, 11:12:46
together with the refund request.

no refund still..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:47:26
No refund here as well...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 09:11:48
any update?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 07 February 2017, 04:07:35
No refund, no caps.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Tue, 07 February 2017, 04:38:30
This is starting to become sketchy  :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Tue, 07 February 2017, 04:40:01
Just let it go folks :)

PayPal dispute window is long closed and we all put out money on IMSTO ...

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 07 February 2017, 05:58:44
One thing, he used family reason for one of the delay reason. Hope it is for real..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Tue, 07 February 2017, 06:09:12
One thing, he used family reason for one of the delay reason. Hope it is for real..

Oh man :( that could come across preeeetty nasty ...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 08 February 2017, 08:19:21
Imsto, where are you living? can you send me your home adress? i will come to help you to finish this job and take care of your family.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: phosphoric on Wed, 08 February 2017, 11:13:45
Imsto, where are you living? can you send me your home adress? i will come to help you to finish this job and take care of your family.
with a username like asskicker79? okay guy
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sat, 11 February 2017, 11:52:56
I really need to stop getting in on these group buys, looking like burned once again.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 11 February 2017, 13:21:13
I really need to stop getting in on these group buys, looking like burned once again.
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/05/us/05onfire1_xp/05onfire1_xp-master768-v2.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 08:06:51
stop this ****, and i want my money back!!! such a liar
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 10:10:22
I still need a "2$" key from the black on black set from round 1.

Any one have an extra?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 12:06:04
I love the fact that imsto has said he has refunded some people and shipped keys out to some people, yet nobody has has come forward to say they got a refund or received keys. How could he ship keys when it doesn't even sound like keys have been made in the first place?

But hey, at least this groupbuy wasn't on massdrop, amirite?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 12:25:41
Okay, I'm the designer of Ancient-Egyptian Layout and also Imsto's friend,I 'm coming to talk about something after my friend told me what happend on Reddit/mk.
Yeah he did not complete the order before the deadline,BUT HE WILL NOT DISAPPER.
Maybe you should know these below first, 
If you still insist on using these words to insult him and his family after knowing these things, then I think you lack the basic training to be a gent.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\OK let's see what happend to IMSTO this year.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
1.Ixxn disapperred with the payment of Imsto's caps,Worth about twenty thousand USD.
2.Exjxxpxt unilaterally terminated the relationship with him and stop supply keycaps because Imsto started to sell caps in China so we have to change from 133 to 117.
3.Half of the goods he supplied in the last are defective.('Delete' 'End' 'PageDn' are in wrong color.)
4.His mother was diagnosed with cancer.
5.His father-in-law is seriously ill and now still in hospital.
6.His wife had a car accident and was sent to the hospital.
7.This should be a happy thing, but it makes him more confused:He became a father.
/////////////What would you do if you suffered these in one year?//////////
Career?Family?
He's not made of iron, bros.
He's in a dreadful rush with so much to do in so short a time.
He is a slow man,and he rarely updates production schedules even in his Chinese group not to mention on GH.
But please believe him everyone, we won't lose him.
By the way,let me give you a shipping order,
Mainland of China>Taiwan>International Group
And now some Chinese people have recived their caps these days.
I also recived my work and I made a comparison between IMSTO and RealForce.
Let me show you Imsto's dye-sub skill.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:04:50
Not to sound insulting, but first noone insulted imsto's family, people just sugested it might be a lie since this was one the many excuses used by people who have scamed other users. Second, most insults here where directed at imsto and imsto only, mainly due to a severe lack of comunicaton. 5 min is more than enough to come here and just say hi, people will see that he active and still interested in this.

So guilting people who have all the right to be mad, is not going to work, and only produce the oposite effect at this stage.

Continuing from this, I am sorry if he is going through a lot right now and hope he and his family get better.

If you have received a set, then the best option to contribute to the well being of this GB would be to post some pics with timestamp of the sets, because a close up of caps claimed to have been made by imsto does not constitute any evidence of his work.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:16:31
Not to sound insulting, but first noone insulted imsto's family, people just sugested it might be a lie since this was one the many excuses used by people who have scamed other users. Second, most insults here where directed at imsto and imsto only, mainly due to a severe lack of comunicaton. 5 min is more than enough to come here and just say hi, people will see that he active and still interested in this.

So guilting people who have all the right to be mad, is not going to work, and only produce the oposite effect at this stage.

Continuing from this, I am sorry if he is going through a lot right now and hope he and his family get better.

If you have received a set, then the best option to contribute to the well being of this GB would be to post some pics with timestamp of the sets, because a close up of caps claimed to have been made by imsto does not constitute any evidence of his work.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
I'm just talking about him.
What he said really insulted imsto's family.
And thank you for your advice.
I'll upload some pics about what we get.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:26:48

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
I'm just talking about him.
What he said really insulted imsto's family.
And thank you for your advice.
I'll upload some pics about what we get.

Well then how can you assume he wasn't really being helpfull? and second of all....are you serious? A comment from a user with zero post count who has nothing to do with the GB gets imsto's attention to the point of hurting him? come on...

Will wait for the pics. thank you.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:33:56
Forgive me,my dormitory is out of order :D
It's 3:20am in Asia and I have a lesson at eight, damn.
And some of my friends also get their caps
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:38:53

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2358232#msg2358232
I'm just talking about him.
What he said really insulted imsto's family.
And thank you for your advice.
I'll upload some pics about what we get.

Well then how can you assume he wasn't really being helpfull? and second of all....are you serious? A comment from a user with zero post count who has nothing to do with the GB gets imsto's attention to the point of hurting him? come on...

Will wait for the pics. thank you.
Obviously,it was a second account.
OK,I won't pay any attention to him.
 ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:41:27
In some way again I get my hopes up on getting a refund. If, what you say is true, Imsto will deliver caps and refund people. So let's see what 2017 brings.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:51:23
In some way again I get my hopes up on getting a refund. If, what you say is true, Imsto will deliver caps and refund people. So let's see what 2017 brings.
Thx,
So far Chinese group have not received the refunds,Imsto said he will do that after mailing whole caps in China.
I would advise him to advance the refund process of the International GB.
I will make a phone call to him tmr.
Trust me.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dante on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:56:33
FWIW I used imsto as a taobao proxy last year.  The lack of communication is real but he shipped within 8 weeks and they were packaged frustratingly well.  Memory is probably messing with me but it took around 10 minutes just to get through all the bubble wrap!

I can't speak for his current situation but I thought I'd give credit where credit is due.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:08:47
Maybe it's just wishful thinking but he kept updating me and my order long after the Paypal dispute window ended. Let's hope he it getting back ln track ...

There is nothing we can do at this point and threats/insults aren't helping anyone. I'll just wait and keep a good spirit :)

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:16:43
Yeah,This is not his main business,he doesn't have enough time to communicate with customers.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Mon, 13 February 2017, 15:49:55
Thank you for the photos, I appreciate it. I hope imsto can get this sorted in time, but for now, best of luck for him and hope his family gets better.

Again, wouldn't hurt to come here from time to time and say hi.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Tue, 14 February 2017, 02:18:20
thanks citi

I'd been too busy these days.
I'd been working on the gb recently. don't worry, as 2016 had gone, hope everything will be ok.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Tue, 14 February 2017, 02:21:36
as citi said, surely it's the fault of lack of communication, ....
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 14 February 2017, 02:55:30
Hope all is well for you and your family imsto.. any chance for a chery hangul style pic?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Wed, 15 February 2017, 05:47:54
I just got refund from Imsto. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 15 February 2017, 05:56:46
Hope all is well for you and your family imsto.. any chance for a chery hangul style pic?

I have not make the photos of the keyset yet. but it should be the same as on my site.


I just got refund from Imsto. Thank you very much.
thanks.
I need to find out the mails and check from the order list and mark it as been refunded and confirm on my site , it will spend some time for each refund. 
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 15 February 2017, 08:56:36
how long does it takes to complete?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Asbrodeus on Wed, 15 February 2017, 10:29:51
how long does it takes to complete?

are you asking so you know when to book your return flight?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 20:12:12
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 20:18:48
Four of the caps I ordered has not arrived yet,
I'll show you guys when I get them.
 :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 19 February 2017, 20:39:43
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P

The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 20:57:43
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P

The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
Let me ask him
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:02:14
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P

The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?
That's enjoypbt.
 :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Mon, 20 February 2017, 04:23:04
Recently, some guys have received their caps.
But they made a mistake in the order of the eyes.
:P

The top keyboard on the first pic, is that imsto keyset too?

it's not
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Bakesta on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:35:11
When do you plan to start shipping the orders in the U.S.?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: h1ggs on Tue, 28 February 2017, 13:11:21
Thanks for the pictures citi - staying hopeful that we in the US will get our keycaps before 2018.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 04 March 2017, 11:32:04
any update?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:26:36
When do you plan to start shipping the orders in the U.S.?
Imsto this has gone on forever. We need to know the timeline? 1 week? A month? 3 months?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Tue, 07 March 2017, 21:42:23
When do you plan to start shipping the orders in the U.S.?
Imsto this has gone on forever. We need to know the timeline? 1 week? A month? 3 months?
Please...

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 07 March 2017, 22:11:30
Late to the party here.  What is that hieroglyphic set in the first post?  Is that an option?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Tue, 07 March 2017, 22:32:31
Late to the party here.  What is that hieroglyphic set in the first post?  Is that an option?

Super late to the party...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:23:13
Start the shipping today.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:24:18
Start the shipping today.

<3  :thumb:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Hako on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:44:40
Start the shipping today.

Awesome! I can't wait to get my set!   :D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 08 March 2017, 22:49:27
Start the shipping today.

Will you provide tracking number?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Thu, 09 March 2017, 03:26:38
Start the shipping today.

Will you provide tracking number?

yes sure, will be sent through the website.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Thu, 09 March 2017, 03:57:59
You have no idea how much I want this to be a hit ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Broadmonkey on Thu, 09 March 2017, 06:17:49
Start the shipping today.


What about refunds, will these also be processed?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Bakesta on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:15:49
I had not made an account on your website at the time of purchase, I did a guest checkout through Paypal and have recieved all confirmation from your site at my email address, will tracking numbers be emailed, or will it have been necessary to have an account on your site before we ordered?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 12 March 2017, 01:04:32
Start the shipping today.


What about refunds, will these also be processed?

yes also the refunds   

I had not made an account on your website at the time of purchase, I did a guest checkout through Paypal and have recieved all confirmation from your site at my email address, will tracking numbers be emailed, or will it have been necessary to have an account on your site before we ordered?

when you make the order, one email address was left, the tracking number will be sent to that address.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Mon, 13 March 2017, 13:22:32
Start the shipping today.


What about refunds, will these also be processed?

yes also the refunds   

I had not made an account on your website at the time of purchase, I did a guest checkout through Paypal and have recieved all confirmation from your site at my email address, will tracking numbers be emailed, or will it have been necessary to have an account on your site before we ordered?

when you make the order, one email address was left, the tracking number will be sent to that address.

Hi, I sent you a pm regarding my refund. Have you got the change to read it yet?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:03:55
Are there any extras available?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Fri, 17 March 2017, 17:07:26
Imsto, did you get the change of address requests that people sent since this buy started?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 19 March 2017, 23:03:49
Still no shipping notification  :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 19 March 2017, 23:05:48
Start the shipping today.
In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Asbrodeus on Mon, 20 March 2017, 05:44:52
Start the shipping today.
In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?

no shipping notification here.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: denfetafrukten on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:07:25
Start the shipping today.
In fact, has anyone received a shipping notification?

no shipping notification here.

Nothing here either...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rarely_upset on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:46:13
No shipping notification, still Pending... on the website.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 04:13:24
there are no photos of finished products. just a "start the shipping today" like last time? sorry i don't believe it!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: lolpes on Wed, 22 March 2017, 05:47:49
there are no photos of finished products. just a "start the shipping today" like last time? sorry i don't believe it!

There are photos of finished products, please read the thread. I haven't received a shipping notification yet as well.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:49:20
there are no photos of finished products. just a "start the shipping today" like last time? sorry i don't believe it!

There are photos of finished products, please read the thread. I haven't received a shipping notification yet as well.

Yeah, there have been photos floating around of these sets for a while. Just gotta find them.
No idea why imsto just doesn't ship them.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Villain on Thu, 23 March 2017, 06:53:15
Okay, I'm the designer of Ancient-Egyptian Layout and also Imsto's friend,I 'm coming to talk about something after my friend told me what happend on Reddit/mk.
Yeah he did not complete the order before the deadline,BUT HE WILL NOT DISAPPER.
Maybe you should know these below first, 
If you still insist on using these words to insult him and his family after knowing these things, then I think you lack the basic training to be a gent.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\OK let's see what happend to IMSTO this year.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
1.Ixxn disapperred with the payment of Imsto's caps,Worth about twenty thousand USD.
2.Exjxxpxt unilaterally terminated the relationship with him and stop supply keycaps because Imsto started to sell caps in China so we have to change from 133 to 117.
3.Half of the goods he supplied in the last are defective.('Delete' 'End' 'PageDn' are in wrong color.)
4.His mother was diagnosed with cancer.
5.His father-in-law is seriously ill and now still in hospital.
6.His wife had a car accident and was sent to the hospital.
7.This should be a happy thing, but it makes him more confused:He became a father.
/////////////What would you do if you suffered these in one year?//////////
Career?Family?
He's not made of iron, bros.
He's in a dreadful rush with so much to do in so short a time.
He is a slow man,and he rarely updates production schedules even in his Chinese group not to mention on GH.
But please believe him everyone, we won't lose him.
By the way,let me give you a shipping order,
Mainland of China>Taiwan>International Group
And now some Chinese people have recived their caps these days.
I also recived my work and I made a comparison between IMSTO and RealForce.
Let me show you Imsto's dye-sub skill.

Is imsto coming back?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:14:54
Hey guys, International GB's shipping order is the last, He just finished his delivery in China.the next is Taiwan.

When I met you in the summer.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: romevi on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:26:02



When I met you in the summer.


Sounds like some anime movie.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Thu, 23 March 2017, 19:28:48



When I met you in the summer.


Sounds like some anime movie.
From an EDM xd

When I met you in the summer.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: denfetafrukten on Fri, 31 March 2017, 08:55:09
Another week of silence, three months since the first time Imsto said he started shipping and three weeks since the second time he said he did.


I wonder how many times shipping will "start" before we get our keys  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: popkorn62 on Fri, 31 March 2017, 12:19:40
Another week of silence, three months since the first time Imsto said he started shipping and three weeks since the second time he said he did.


I wonder how many times shipping will "start" before we get our keys  :rolleyes:

I'm frustrated too since I was in this for 4 sets BUT he did say he prioritizes China then Taiwan then Asia then the rest of the world.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 31 March 2017, 22:46:58
That makes me wonder how large is the order count
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Janzzze on Sat, 01 April 2017, 05:11:18
Have anyone gotten there caps yet?
If he started shipping to China, Taiwan and rest of Asia a while ago someone must have got there keycaps by now.

Don't think I've seen pictures of this rounds keys actually on a board.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Sat, 01 April 2017, 11:33:25
maybe he's thinking about another excuse.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Sat, 01 April 2017, 15:37:16
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kaeeeede on Sat, 01 April 2017, 20:40:26
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?

I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 03 April 2017, 01:56:40
(http://i.imgur.com/eMlxIIX.gif)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: building_an_ergo on Tue, 04 April 2017, 06:11:18
Have anyone gotten there caps yet?
If he started shipping to China, Taiwan and rest of Asia a while ago someone must have got there keycaps by now.

Don't think I've seen pictures of this rounds keys actually on a board.

I am in Asia.

Haven't heard or received a thing.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Wed, 05 April 2017, 10:20:44
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?

I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.

Thanks mate! will do so.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sun, 09 April 2017, 11:03:40
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?

I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.

I moved right after joining this group buy and have tried to contact Imsto 10 times now about my address change and there has never been a response. I have tried both through direct message here at Geekhack as well as through his website, but no response. Not to mention I have asked about it multiple times through this thread. Pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Sun, 09 April 2017, 20:09:16
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?

I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.

I moved right after joining this group buy and have tried to contact Imsto 10 times now about my address change and there has never been a response. I have tried both through direct message here at Geekhack as well as through his website, but no response. Not to mention I have asked about it multiple times through this thread. Pretty disappointing.

Sorry man, plz send me the mail again to imsto#qq.com
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Tue, 11 April 2017, 15:37:28
Ok imsto. I'm going to move in two months and would like to change the adress. How do I do it?

I just submitted a ticket on his site for an address change this week. He got back to me in a day or two to say it was updated. So probably the site is the best way.

I moved right after joining this group buy and have tried to contact Imsto 10 times now about my address change and there has never been a response. I have tried both through direct message here at Geekhack as well as through his website, but no response. Not to mention I have asked about it multiple times through this thread. Pretty disappointing.

Sorry man, plz send me the mail again to imsto#qq.com

I will send you an email aswell. Because I did not get any response from the site.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 April 2017, 16:13:13
Anyone get any refunds yet?
I mean even the people who kept their orders should have gotten 7$ refunds per set right?

Such a shame to see IMSTOs reputation crushed. Delays and personal problems are one thing but making false promises is what hurts the reputation.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Tue, 11 April 2017, 16:25:57
Anyone get any refunds yet?
I mean even the people who kept their orders should have gotten 7$ refunds per set right?

Such a shame to see IMSTOs reputation crushed. Delays and personal problems are one thing but making false promises is what hurts the reputation.

Yes, I got a refund after emailing on all emailadresses I could find every day for ~2 weeks. I was only in for one set so it was not a lot of money.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 02:28:29
anyone got the caps?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: phosphoric on Tue, 18 April 2017, 11:55:43
anyone got the caps?
doubt it. i guarantee there will be an influx of posts when people do start receiving them


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 19 April 2017, 05:50:46
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 19 April 2017, 06:18:03
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 19 April 2017, 08:21:29
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com

try sent it to imsto@qq.com

subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****

your order number
paypal address

i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 19 April 2017, 08:23:23
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com

try sent it to imsto@qq.com

subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****

your order number
paypal address

i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)
Thanks, I'll try again, hope this address will work
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: building_an_ergo on Thu, 20 April 2017, 11:51:40
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com

try sent it to imsto@qq.com

subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****

your order number
paypal address

i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)

Thanks.  Sent.

Will post again here when I get a response or a week or so has passed.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: stupidhurtingfeet on Thu, 20 April 2017, 16:18:27
i got my refund thx a lot imsto :)
Please share experiences on what email address you wrote? I've been several times, wrote on imsto@msn.com

try sent it to imsto@qq.com

subject : *****GB Round4 Refund*****

your order number
paypal address

i sent him an email 3 days ago, he reply and refund it today ;)

I am doing the same. Hopefully something comes of it this time.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:28:45
I don't even care about the $7 - I just want my caps!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:40:02
I don't even care about the $7 - I just want my caps!

+1
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: imsto on Wed, 26 April 2017, 04:41:48
hi, I am packaging again recently, except some of the refund request I can not see if the address changed or want the keys, so plz send a simple mail  if still want the keys with the order ID.

I am much better now, hope you all good luck.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Wed, 26 April 2017, 04:45:53
hi, I am packaging again recently, except some of the refund request I can not see if the address changed or want the keys, so plz send a simple mail  if still want the keys with the order ID.

I am much better now, hope you all good luck.
(http://i.imgur.com/2jsfax6.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 26 April 2017, 04:47:06
Got my refund, thanks IMSTO
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: stupidhurtingfeet on Wed, 26 April 2017, 10:29:41
My refund just came through this morning. Thanks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 27 April 2017, 03:25:23
Are u start sending the international order now, imsto?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 27 April 2017, 04:31:45
contact you through your website contact us link. Please confirm. Thanks!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 27 April 2017, 12:44:06
hi imsto, i sent an email to imsto@qq.com regarding a refund. please let me know if you've received it. this is my second email
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Fri, 28 April 2017, 10:39:23
hi, I am packaging again recently, except some of the refund request I can not see if the address changed or want the keys, so plz send a simple mail  if still want the keys with the order ID.

I am much better now, hope you all good luck.

Are those shipment's tracked? And where do I get the shipping number?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 13:10:18
Submitted a refund request over a week ago. Would be appreciated, otherwise im fine transferring my order over to someone.

Ordered the russian and irish sets
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Mon, 01 May 2017, 19:25:24
I got a response on my address change request. I am looking forward to getting my keys.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 04 May 2017, 08:59:00
Has anyone gotten a refund recently? I've requested twice at this point.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hqnam on Thu, 11 May 2017, 02:10:36
did anyone get the key? I am so confused  :confused:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:23:14
Has anyone gotten a refund recently? I've requested twice at this point.
ive requested twice as well, no response.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Mon, 15 May 2017, 13:18:59
Imsto can we get a timeframe? Before or after summer?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: wodan on Mon, 15 May 2017, 13:19:39
Imsto can we get a timeframe? Before or after summer?
*2017
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:11:33
I am seriously doubting that we'll ever see these.  :-[   How many times have they been shipping now?  I haven't heard of a single person actually receiving them...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 04:54:16
Following this group buy was the worst thing i've done in 2016.

so many excuse, "started shipping today", dad, mom, sister, ..etc.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 19:32:48
Maybe we will get an update this month :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 18 May 2017, 21:12:41
dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 19 May 2017, 19:35:49
dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(

ya rly what's g00t imst0 breh
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 19 May 2017, 21:51:30
         ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
^-^ ^-^     T H I S  I S  F I N E      ^-^ ^-^
        ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sat, 20 May 2017, 10:05:53
Yep this sucks.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Tue, 23 May 2017, 12:49:29
Hopefully one day we will see these caps. I remember a Tai Hao keycap GB a few years ago, it took more than a year but they did come. Hopefully this will be the same experience.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Sempre on Wed, 24 May 2017, 18:23:38
Hopefully one day we will see these caps. I remember a Tai Hao keycap GB a few years ago, it took more than a year but they did come. Hopefully this will be the same experience.

Only some received them, most including me didn't
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 20:09:29
This GB was a trainwreck from the start and I stuck with it, now I wish I had just gotten out when I had a chance...

But hey, maybe citi can come back and give us an update since his update was better than any update imsto has given us.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 24 May 2017, 20:23:15
This GB was a trainwreck from the start and I stuck with it, now I wish I had just gotten out when I had a chance...

But hey, maybe citi can come back and give us an update since his update was better than any update imsto has given us.
same... i opted a refund at one point and retracted it when he said its shipping but then this until now...  :'(
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 30 May 2017, 05:54:21
I requested a refund today... I hope it comes thru.  Do the right thing IMSTO...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: building_an_ergo on Wed, 31 May 2017, 05:56:44
Requested a refund, got a response asking for more info.

I answered but have not gotten a refund after that.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Fri, 02 June 2017, 20:27:09
Hopefully imsto comes through.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: hqnam on Fri, 09 June 2017, 02:19:06
any update?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Janzzze on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:12:55
lost hope in ever seeing my keycaps.
hopefully imsto proves me wrong but it seems like he pulled a ivanivan
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:52:17
Never got a response or my refund...  >:D
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Thu, 15 June 2017, 17:49:51
I've gotten burned on several group buys so I am hesitant to get involved in anymore.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Sat, 17 June 2017, 13:10:19
Imsto what are you doing?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 18 June 2017, 17:02:50
Can't even get a monthly update anymore. Wonderful
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 20 June 2017, 21:31:01
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6UB5RrlQuMfZp82Y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: splitfile on Thu, 22 June 2017, 01:42:56
Hi guys,

I got my refund today. I only ordered one set so it wasn't much money. But imsto wrote:

"sorry I am late. I do not have enough money to make the refund, but I am trying to get the funds to do this.
just mark that you need the refund and when got enough money then I will make the refund to you first. ....
hope I can finish this GB soon."

And a few minutes later:
"I tried to make the refund with my credit card and it worked, sorry for the late."

From what I can tell, imsto is trying to make everything right. Hopefully.

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: jaesen on Thu, 22 June 2017, 03:53:44
I sent my email a looong time ago but he got back to me just now. In the email, he told me he will refund me soon and sure enough, I got the money a few minutes later. So he is trying to make things right. :)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: rarely_upset on Thu, 22 June 2017, 09:20:23
I just got an email from imsto saying he'd ship my keys tomorrow. It looks like our long journey is wrapping up
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Thu, 22 June 2017, 19:32:51
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Khers on Fri, 23 June 2017, 11:50:11
.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:09:49
I just got an email from imsto saying he'd ship my keys tomorrow. It looks like our long journey is wrapping up
so did that happen?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Asbrodeus on Wed, 05 July 2017, 06:08:43
I got a similar email but not package as of yet. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: yaiu on Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:28:53
My three orders came today! Two cyrillic and one japanese.
(https://my.mixtape.moe/xfxebe.jpg)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Bakesta on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:23:32
I still haven't gotten an email about shipment yet, anyone else in the same boat?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Wed, 12 July 2017, 03:00:39
I still haven't gotten an email about shipment yet, anyone else in the same boat?
Yes. Haven't heard anything for months..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Wed, 12 July 2017, 17:22:11
Nothing here...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Fri, 14 July 2017, 16:25:41
One of the three sets I ordered came today!
[attach=1]
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Bakesta on Sat, 15 July 2017, 09:23:00
One of the three sets I ordered came today!
(Attachment Link)

Congrats!  Did you receive any kind of shipping notification or tracking number before they showed up?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sat, 15 July 2017, 09:29:41
One of the three sets I ordered came today!
(Attachment Link)

Congrats!  Did you receive any kind of shipping notification or tracking number before they showed up?

Nope nothing, the status on imsto's site still shows "Producing" too.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:36:14
So... Has anyone gotten anything recently?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: sphinx on Tue, 25 July 2017, 14:56:40
still waiting...
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Thu, 03 August 2017, 12:46:31
Not me either...
But I have moved and I'm not certain that he got my new address...
Hopefully he has.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:36:37
You'll never believe what showed up today!

More
NOTHING!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Mon, 07 August 2017, 19:15:05
You'll never believe what showed up today!

More
NOTHING!

BOOM!

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 12:31:54
Imsto - the LIER.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: beltet on Fri, 11 August 2017, 12:55:25
Do anyone know if he sends with fedex? I maybe have a package in Limbo atm... The adress seems to be wrong and I have not got any tracking number.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Fri, 11 August 2017, 13:36:34
Emailed him on both his MSN and QQ adresses. Never experienced something like this before.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Sat, 12 August 2017, 08:26:28
Do anyone know if he sends with fedex? I maybe have a package in Limbo atm... The adress seems to be wrong and I have not got any tracking number.

The package I got showed up regular mail.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 24 August 2017, 05:07:04
Imsto where are you?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kaeeeede on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:35:43
Emailed him on both his MSN and QQ adresses. Never experienced something like this before.

You must have never joined a ctrlalt.io group buy then. This isn't too bad compared to theirs.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:18:46
Imsto where are you?
Imsto is on vacation with your money
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: dorf on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:31:46
At this point it would be nice if the moderator team could step in and just clarify what's going on. Try to get hold of Imsto and just give him a chance to explain himself. I'm no longer part of this buy but I'm genuinly interested in the product that was offered. Since both the range of different legends that was offered and the price was too good to be true, I had my suspicions though, still I joined but pulled out early enough to get my money back. I will not even get into Ivan at this point.

There should be a big red flag when just entering "Imsto-area" on GH.

And finally to Imsto, step up and act like a man! Everyone has downfalls.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 04 September 2017, 04:13:13
Imsto where are you?
Imsto is on vacation with your money
And also yours
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 04 September 2017, 04:15:00
I will ask him about update for you guys and reply soon.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 07 September 2017, 04:30:47
Where are you imsto? Aren't you afraid of karma when you use family matter as a reason for your excuse?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Thu, 07 September 2017, 23:45:52
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 08 September 2017, 01:01:36
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.

I do like/want that spacebar.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 08 September 2017, 07:24:02
he'll produce one by himself.
imsto will be producing keycaps by himself? If so, that's interesting, is he doing cherry profile?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Fri, 08 September 2017, 10:19:09
Can you ask him why he so rarely responds for long periods of time and keeps us guessing? I had to personally reach out to citi because Imsto does not respond on his email(s).
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 September 2017, 14:37:13
For the record and in the hope of adding some to the conversation: My transactions with IMSTO at his store ran well, the quality of the stuff I got is great; but, he never answered my communications, although, it was clear to me that he took all the feedback, because at the end I got everything as I requested. Of course, it is not comfortable not having any feedback so each one has to take decisions on how to deal with his businesses.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Wed, 20 September 2017, 00:57:49
he'll produce one by himself.
imsto will be producing keycaps by himself? If so, that's interesting, is he doing cherry profile?
Yes of course.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Wed, 20 September 2017, 00:58:21
Can you ask him why he so rarely responds for long periods of time and keeps us guessing? I had to personally reach out to citi because Imsto does not respond on his email(s).
Maybe afraid to face us.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 21 September 2017, 14:54:41
Can you ask him why he so rarely responds for long periods of time and keeps us guessing? I had to personally reach out to citi because Imsto does not respond on his email(s).
Maybe afraid to face us.

That's what I figured as well.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: sphinx on Tue, 10 October 2017, 08:12:21
Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.

Does that mean that we will get the ISO layouts that were promised in the beggining of this group buy ?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Sat, 14 October 2017, 19:56:54


Hi guys, Imsto will not use enjoypbt's caps anymore, it really put him to shame in this groupbuy. he'll produce one by himself.
/////
He is testing the caps now and it will be finished in November.
/////
To be honest I think he will finish the whole caps and start shipping in Jan 2018, It's just my personal prediction.

Does that mean that we will get the ISO layouts that were promised in the beggining of this group buy ?

Oh IDK, he doesn't finish it so it's too early to say that.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: asskicker79 on Mon, 30 October 2017, 21:51:43
keys and money are gone forever!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: citi on Mon, 06 November 2017, 12:10:14
keys and money are gone forever!
You really bring us a lot of fun.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2e8acdc4a9fa145900a456f41fb6524e.gif)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:54:51
Round 4 anyone?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Mon, 27 November 2017, 00:53:05
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: malu1989 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 15:45:56
Anything new? How is the testing going?
Citi, do you have any new informations for us?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 19:47:31
new year, new no caps
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sun, 14 January 2018, 19:59:27
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?

I will happily explain.

What happens if we close his vendor subform/lock threads?  Should he return he can't access anything and cannot update his threads.
What happens if we limit his ability to post in his subform?  See above.
What happens if we ban him?  See above.

I get that this **** is frustrating, but the mod team is and has been very explicit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) how we handle these issues.  At this point, members gain nothing if we shut his account down.  Basically if we take any punitive action towards him at this point, there is really no reason for him to come back and fulfill his ongoing orders and group buys.  At this point the best to hope for is his return and faith that he upholds his morals to fulfill the gb.

I can tell you that he last post was made in China.  I think its pretty common knowledge that china has many restrictions on their internet, which could be the reason why his posting is limited, but not an excuse as to the status of the GB.

If the MOD team hears from him, or has any relevant information for GB participants, we will share that information to all.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 17 January 2018, 00:46:57
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?

I will happily explain.

What happens if we close his vendor subform/lock threads?  Should he return he can't access anything and cannot update his threads.
What happens if we limit his ability to post in his subform?  See above.
What happens if we ban him?  See above.

I get that this **** is frustrating, but the mod team is and has been very explicit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) how we handle these issues.  At this point, members gain nothing if we shut his account down.  Basically if we take any punitive action towards him at this point, there is really no reason for him to come back and fulfill his ongoing orders and group buys.  At this point the best to hope for is his return and faith that he upholds his morals to fulfill the gb.

I can tell you that he last post was made in China.  I think its pretty common knowledge that china has many restrictions on their internet, which could be the reason why his posting is limited, but not an excuse as to the status of the GB.

If the MOD team hears from him, or has any relevant information for GB participants, we will share that information to all.

He has his own damn forum setup by the mods so you are part of this whether you want to be or not. This isn't some rando group buy in the group buy subforum.

But let's say he does come through with this group buy in 3 months. Is he then OK to continue doing them in the future? We're about to hit TWO GOD DAMN YEARS with no one receiving their caps. And that isn't even the problem. It's the lack of communication. imsto hasn't even logged into to the site in 7 months. I'm sorry but no one should have their own forum if they can't even keep their customers up to date on what is going on. I know the mods aren't responsible for where people spend their money, but come on. I didn't even buy into this group buy. I was just hoping to snag some leftovers but that ain't happening.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Tue, 06 February 2018, 08:28:14
Who remembers keycaps?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: kmba on Tue, 06 February 2018, 13:39:52
Who runs this site these days? How is a vendor allowed to keep his private area on the forum when he hasn't even logged in, in 6+ months?

I will happily explain.

What happens if we close his vendor subform/lock threads?  Should he return he can't access anything and cannot update his threads.
What happens if we limit his ability to post in his subform?  See above.
What happens if we ban him?  See above.

I get that this **** is frustrating, but the mod team is and has been very explicit (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) how we handle these issues.  At this point, members gain nothing if we shut his account down.  Basically if we take any punitive action towards him at this point, there is really no reason for him to come back and fulfill his ongoing orders and group buys.  At this point the best to hope for is his return and faith that he upholds his morals to fulfill the gb.

I can tell you that he last post was made in China.  I think its pretty common knowledge that china has many restrictions on their internet, which could be the reason why his posting is limited, but not an excuse as to the status of the GB.

If the MOD team hears from him, or has any relevant information for GB participants, we will share that information to all.

He has his own damn forum setup by the mods so you are part of this whether you want to be or not. This isn't some rando group buy in the group buy subforum.

But let's say he does come through with this group buy in 3 months. Is he then OK to continue doing them in the future? We're about to hit TWO GOD DAMN YEARS with no one receiving their caps. And that isn't even the problem. It's the lack of communication. imsto hasn't even logged into to the site in 7 months. I'm sorry but no one should have their own forum if they can't even keep their customers up to date on what is going on. I know the mods aren't responsible for where people spend their money, but come on. I didn't even buy into this group buy. I was just hoping to snag some leftovers but that ain't happening.

It makes perfect sense to leave threads open in hopes communication will start back up.  Locking threads and closing subforums will put a nail in the coffin and prevent any communication. Mods approve sale posts in the for sale found, and they could certainly prevent any future gb from imsto.  Leaving this thread or subforum open doesn't automatically mean he will be allowed to sell here again.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:56:54
LOL
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: nickheller on Sat, 03 March 2018, 20:03:51
who will ship first, IMSTO or Ivan?  :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 20:46:30
who will ship first, IMSTO or Ivan?  :confused: :confused: :confused:
dont worry imsto is just embarrassed that is all
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 08 March 2018, 12:09:11
Last email I got from him was in december. Sent him a new one now.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Wed, 14 March 2018, 04:53:52
No answers.

* IMSTO has updated his Taobao store AIKB with a few new items, this includes a cherry keycap replica set
* Hammer said that he has not heard from him in a long time. IMSTO used to sell some of his artisans and BSP keycaps.
* Can't find anything on KBDLAB about anyone receiving or hearing anything from him.
* Massdrop were unable to give us more contact information.
* The vietnamese vendor Pong Cch Xanh is also unable to contact IMSTO.
* Chinese community member Citi does not respond to geekhack PMs.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 02:45:14
last i heard imsto had some major tragedy in his family and has been recovering from that

this was a few months ago, but if it's what i heard it was then i can imagine that he'd still be out of comission
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 22 March 2018, 17:50:22
┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴

hey

love me some keycaps

dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(

ya rly what's g00t imst0 breh

for a sense of scale
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 22 March 2018, 21:44:40
┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴

hey

love me some keycaps

dunno what to think about this gb anymore :(

ya rly what's g00t imst0 breh

for a sense of scale

(https://i.imgur.com/K4SrOrz.gif)
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Wed, 23 May 2018, 06:35:44
Anyone heard anything? I tipped him off about Ivan resurfacing and he said that the keysets have started shipping but that's it.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: tuco on Fri, 03 August 2018, 14:24:19
Bueller?
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Thu, 16 August 2018, 06:19:50
Latest update from the man himself:

(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)

Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 August 2018, 19:26:37
Latest update from the man himself:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)


neat

crazy how this ivan stuff is still lurking, messing up all kinds of things

frustrating
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: malu1989 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 07:02:26
Latest update from the man himself:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)


Nice, now the hopes are up again.
Lets see when they will be crushed one more time!
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: t8c on Wed, 29 August 2018, 07:23:35
Latest update from the man himself:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5JzlAqwl.jpg)


Nice, now the hopes are up again.
Lets see when they will be crushed one more time!
No pics, no packages, no layout mockups. AIKB taobao shop looks like it has been shut down. I cant search baidu but I havent seen any chinese members get their caps either..
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 12:29:12
It's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.
Title: Re: PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 ★★★ISO included★★★★ 133keys Accept order now
Post by: alexjd99 on Thu, 30 August 2018, 16:22:56
It's all good guys I think he started shipping orders around the middle of last year. Shipping is just kinda slow.

The caps were supposed to start production what, over 2 years ago? I have a hard time believing that they're still being shipped.
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