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Title: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 12:51:18
It was 1996, 1 years after Tp4 came to 'Murica...

And this mouse blew my mind...

Dug this one out of the basement.. 


All 3 Switches are Omron Japan, D2F-01F-T.. 


The T just means clinching through-hole leads.. they're slightly bent leads that grip the pcb.. Otherwise they're the same as, the non-T


The wheel is also hooked up to a Japan-made rotary switch.

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Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 12:54:12
This was the GO TO, starcraft mouse for a long time.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 12:56:57
Does anyone remember how much one of these cost ?

I remember I got my first one for $20 on a promotion with a printer..

What was the original retail.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: demik on Thu, 24 March 2016, 12:57:47
TP WHERE IS THE RAMEN GUIDE FFS
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:03:30
I got two Microsoft intellimouse 1.1's for free a little while ago, haven't had a chance to use them recently but they are fantastic.

Oh and if anyone wants to overclock the polling rate to 500 or 1000 for Fps games or just general better reponse, here you go http://sweetlow.orgfree.com/hidusbf.html

It works on windows 8 and 10 as of the latest update.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:04:18
I got two Microsoft intellimouse 1.1's for free a little while ago, haven't had a chance to use them recently but they are fantastic.

Oh and if anyone wants to overclock the polling rate to 500 or 1000 for Fps games or just general better reponse, here you go http://sweetlow.orgfree.com/hidusbf.html

It works on windows 8 and 10 as of the latest update.

You mean the Intellimouse OPTICAL ? the ones with the side buttons ?

Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:04:58
wait tp is in america? and where is ramen guide
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:09:30
I got two Microsoft intellimouse 1.1's for free a little while ago, haven't had a chance to use them recently but they are fantastic.

Oh and if anyone wants to overclock the polling rate to 500 or 1000 for Fps games or just general better reponse, here you go http://sweetlow.orgfree.com/hidusbf.html

It works on windows 8 and 10 as of the latest update.

You mean the Intellimouse OPTICAL ? the ones with the side buttons ?
Yeah I got a couple of those.

Is the sensor and internals very different from that one? I heard they where mostly the same besides the side bottons.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:14:57
I got two Microsoft intellimouse 1.1's for free a little while ago, haven't had a chance to use them recently but they are fantastic.

Oh and if anyone wants to overclock the polling rate to 500 or 1000 for Fps games or just general better reponse, here you go http://sweetlow.orgfree.com/hidusbf.html

It works on windows 8 and 10 as of the latest update.

You mean the Intellimouse OPTICAL ? the ones with the side buttons ?
Yeah I got a couple of those.

Is the sensor and internals very different from that one? I heard they where mostly the same besides the side bottons.

The Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1 (WMO), the Intellimouse Optical 1.1 (IMO), and the Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (IME),  all use the same sensor/ tuning..


All are moddable..  the Pre 2005 made ones had Japan Omron.. the newer ones have China Omron.


There is also the WMO 1.0.. which is NOT game-able, and if you tried to move fast at all, it will malfunction.. 

^^ Really easy to identify a 1.0, plug it in,  move left and right really fast, if it loses tracking, then it's a 1.0.. 
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: btctopre on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:27:34
the Pre 2005 made ones had Japan Omron.. the newer ones have China Omron.
and unfortunately they all **** out within 18 months of regular use. i finally gave up on the IME about a year ago after something like 12 years of using them.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 13:42:07
the Pre 2005 made ones had Japan Omron.. the newer ones have China Omron.
and unfortunately they all **** out within 18 months of regular use. i finally gave up on the IME about a year ago after something like 12 years of using them.

So you've gone through 8x  IMEs in the 144 months (12 years)?

Do you mean the Omrons stop working after 18months or the whole mouse?
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: btctopre on Thu, 24 March 2016, 14:00:17
So you've gone through 8x  IMEs in the 144 months (12 years)?

Do you mean the Omrons stop working after 18months or the whole mouse?
8 would be a good estimate, yeah. Have four still sitting in the closet now (though might've finally thrown them out last month). What happens is eventually the switches go defective and multi-click while the button is held (often resulting in double-clicks off single-clicks). And while there's a software fix for it (it basically just ignores the clicks performed within x ms of a click), it creates some behavioral issues with click-and-dragging (because the mouse can fire off a large amount of defective clicks once you hold it, it basically forgets about the hold so you have to keep re-clicking just to drag something somewhere).

So the mouse still works, it's just you either deal with unintended clicks, or ****ed up drag-dropping (barring you replacing the switches, which I'd need someone to do for me). There's also the wheel issue with the IME (and the others?) where it scrolled on its own, but that was mostly fixable using some paper/tape though.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:23:44
Does anyone remember how to get 200hz on PS/2

I did the regedit,  and I'm still getting 150
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 01 April 2016, 02:29:59
Noticed this in today's Google April Fools commercial

(http://i.imgur.com/Isqyy3U.png)
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: csmertx on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:03:13
Noticed this in today's Google April Fools commercial

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Isqyy3U.png)

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 03:26:29
Noticed this in today's Google April Fools commercial

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Isqyy3U.png)


That's not an intellimouse.. That's a Wheel Mouse Optical.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)

But, still pretty impressive that you noticed it...
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 01 April 2016, 04:46:51
That's not an intellimouse.. That's a Wheel Mouse Optical..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)

Was trying to find some relevant, general WMO thread but settled on this one since it's a pretty random observation ;)

Enjoying your mod threads btw.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 04:50:33
That's not an intellimouse.. That's a Wheel Mouse Optical..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)

Was trying to find some relevant, general WMO thread but settled on this one since it's a pretty random observation ;)

Enjoying your mod threads btw.

nawh..  anything on microsoft mouse is good stuff..

I'm trying to find a newer IME,  but can't seem to find a legit one on Ebay, they seem to all be clones. .
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 01 April 2016, 05:01:22
nawh..  anything on microsoft mouse is good stuff..

I'm trying to find a newer IME,  but can't seem to find a legit one on Ebay, they seem to all be clones. .

Over in my Zowie FK review thread someone posted that certain IME clones are actually decent, but haven't been able to find much else about them.

Amazing high quality pictures! WOW. You should seriously review the Taiwanese Intellimouse 3.0 knock-offs. They are simply amazing (if you know where to look)!!
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 05:04:12
nawh..  anything on microsoft mouse is good stuff..

I'm trying to find a newer IME,  but can't seem to find a legit one on Ebay, they seem to all be clones. .

Over in my Zowie FK review thread someone posted that certain IME clones are actually decent, but haven't been able to find much else about them.

Amazing high quality pictures! WOW. You should seriously review the Taiwanese Intellimouse 3.0 knock-offs. They are simply amazing (if you know where to look)!!


The IME is historically significant.. the Clone lacks this appeal.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/big-eye-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862491)
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 01 April 2016, 09:59:38
I was all excited to go swapping my switches for something stiffer... I took apart my intellimouse optical (original first release) and it already has the D2F-01F T in left/right slots.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 10:43:44
I was all excited to go swapping my switches for something stiffer... I took apart my intellimouse optical (original first release) and it already has the D2F-01F T in left/right slots.  :rolleyes:

They all had -the-good-stuff-  in the Early years..  but then idk, they started up window vista...

That shook things up in the worst way..

are the side button and middle button d2f 01f t?
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 01 April 2016, 18:41:55
Ball mouse?
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/wingsoffirefanon/images/3/30/NopeNopeNope.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150621052407)
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:13:50
Ball mouse?
Show Image
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/wingsoffirefanon/images/3/30/NopeNopeNope.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150621052407)


Ball mouse so good.... 250hz.. on ps/2...

Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:22:05
I still have one of these.  ^-^
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: digi on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:23:29
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: csmertx on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:25:45
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??
Ball mouse on greased tempered glass (it's all in the viscosity). Buttery smooth  :p
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: digi on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:33:49
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??
Ball mouse on greased tempered glass (it's all in the viscosity). Buttery smooth  :p

oOoo krytox for intelli's?? Where do you lube it? On the ball roller thingys?
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:50:24
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??

Neither.. they're among the most ubiquitous computer parts on the planet
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:51:50
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??
Ball mouse on greased tempered glass (it's all in the viscosity). Buttery smooth  :p

oOoo krytox for intelli's?? Where do you lube it? On the ball roller thingys?

You don't lube the rollers/ ball

because if the ball got greasy, it gets really messy and grimy..

it's pretty smooth all on its own as long as its clean.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 April 2016, 20:57:59
I absolutely do not miss the roller-ball mouse era. That said, this was likely everyone's first experience with a scroll wheel, and that was a game-changer.

If you want to have that kind of game-changing pointer experience all over again, get yourself an L-TRAC.

EDIT: As far as a standard mouse goes, I'm also very happy with the Microsoft Comfort Mouse 6000 (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00A1702Z0).
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: csmertx on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:06:04
SO which one is more rare, the one with the ball or the laser??
Ball mouse on greased tempered glass (it's all in the viscosity). Buttery smooth  :p

oOoo krytox for intelli's?? Where do you lube it? On the ball roller thingys?

You don't lube the rollers/ ball

because if the ball got greasy, it gets really messy and grimy..

it's pretty smooth all on its own as long as its clean.
Aw, I was just kidding around. If you add grease to a roller ball mouse the ball stops rolling :))
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: digi on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:11:46
Good info on the greasy balls, thanks boys!

I've been eyeing this bad boy - https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-300

I'm still using a Zowie EC1 that I got from a fellow GH member, it's a great mouse too. Not sure if it's compatible with Internet Explorer like the Intellimouse. :))
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:21:04
Good info on the greasy balls, thanks boys!

I've been eyeing this bad boy - https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-300

I'm still using a Zowie EC1 that I got from a fellow GH member, it's a great mouse too. Not sure if it's compatible with Internet Explorer like the Intellimouse. :))

The Rival looks nice. Very similar in size and shape to the Microsoft Comfort Mouse 6000 I recommended above, but cheaper since it's not discontinued. If my 6000 died today I would probably buy the Rival, even as a non-gamer.
Title: Re: The Intellimouse..
Post by: digi on Fri, 01 April 2016, 21:24:58
Here you go Tp, you'll never run out of them for the rest of your life:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-of-50-Dell-PS-2-IntelliMouse-Assy-D7232-/281152388781?hash=item4175fcfead:g:4KIAAOxymspSDjT1