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Title: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 03 August 2016, 10:45:38
WABANG

Zeal's Screw-in type Stabilizers
(http://i.imgur.com/zCDefd9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jTNHWAm.jpg)


Zeal's Plate Mount compatible silencing clips
(http://i.imgur.com/8pGCbXi.jpg)
Tramp stamp
(http://i.imgur.com/iuKWH82.jpg)
Works with Cherry switches too
(http://i.imgur.com/RfzBX47.jpg)

Zeal60 RGB PCB - First 60% PCB to feature fully controllable & backlit RGB LEDs for EACH switch & Spacebar stabilizers (lols). Supports Standard 60% winkey, winkeyless, short r_shift, HHKB, ISO. SMD LED does not interfere with the switch whatsoever.
(https://puu.sh/qyLFR/369490e9fc.jpg)



Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 August 2016, 10:48:46
Those clear stabs look better than I thought they would look... PCB shots eh?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 10:56:36
Theyre on slack!

Just waiting to build my all zeal x60 so we can be soul mates.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: infiniti on Wed, 03 August 2016, 11:02:29
My wallet is ready! :cool:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: robotmaxtron on Wed, 03 August 2016, 11:26:42
Oh cool. Yeah, I'm interested for sure.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 03 August 2016, 11:40:17
My wallet is ready! :cool:

My Wallet isn't ready :(
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: infiniti on Wed, 03 August 2016, 12:15:49
My wallet is ready! :cool:

My Wallet isn't ready :(

Hmm...I suppose it can stay tuned while recovering. :))
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 03 August 2016, 12:32:46
Theyre on slack!

Just waiting to build my all zeal x60 so we can be soul mates.

Why slack where they'll get buried in half an hour rather than here where they'll stay visible? :(
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 03 August 2016, 12:53:11
Is there that much scrollage in the slack channel?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 12:58:25
I just got into it today.

Yes, it's crazy how fast it goes.

Theyre on slack!

Just waiting to build my all zeal x60 so we can be soul mates.

Why slack where they'll get buried in half an hour rather than here where they'll stay visible? :(

It was just a small glimpse. Good pictures that better represent the color of the pcb inbound. Spoiler: it's purple.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 03 August 2016, 13:05:55
Whats the top image? QMX clips?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 03 August 2016, 13:23:12
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 14:23:19
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.

Zealencios would be great, haha
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 14:30:05
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.
How do they compare to the QMX clip in terms of noise reduction?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 03 August 2016, 15:27:36
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.
How do they compare to the QMX clip in terms of noise reduction?

Will make a video once I get them on hand next week. By design, the goal is to be the same or dampen even more as we're finding softer rubbers.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 03 August 2016, 16:17:40
wao zeal, much excite :)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: blai5000 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 18:12:23
Very excited for this.  They all manufactured by Gateron?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:32:38
Very excited for this.  They all manufactured by Gateron?

Yep.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: kasakka on Thu, 04 August 2016, 13:51:58
Other than the clear look and screw, is there something else special about the stabilizers? Why the screw?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 04 August 2016, 13:57:29
Other than the clear look and screw, is there something else special about the stabilizers? Why the screw?

PCB mount stabilizers have been reported in the past for popping out in certain keyboards when fitted with tight keycaps. Having a screw secures the housing down so that doesn't happen. :)

In the past, vintage Cherry stabilizers had a screw that screwed into plastic; however, overtime the plastic would strip and the stabilizer wouldn't be usable anymore. My stabilizer is the solution for both issues.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: robotmaxtron on Thu, 04 August 2016, 14:50:41
a zeal pcb? BE STILL MY HEART.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:53:09
lookin' good

I've been holding out on buying zealios for a while now, maybe this is the nudge I need  :p
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: shangrila500 on Wed, 10 August 2016, 17:10:14
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.

For the life of me I cannot picture where they would go.....

The stabs look amazing though! I will be ordering some just to have on hand!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 11 August 2016, 12:52:56
Samples arriving tomorrow afternoon... #hype

PCB in a week or two.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 12 August 2016, 09:33:39
The hype is real today!!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 12 August 2016, 17:54:28
Who's ready?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: joey on Fri, 12 August 2016, 17:55:32
Who's ready?
Not you, otherwise you would have linked us to the goddamn pics.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: nickheller on Fri, 12 August 2016, 18:00:09
 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 August 2016, 18:00:57
Now the extra money I spend on gold plated stabs means I can see them!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: sony on Fri, 12 August 2016, 18:56:31
I really want those silencing clips. Any idea of pricing?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:16:52
Ive been waiting on a purple PCB for too long  ;D
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:22:06
What firmware?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:35:12
What firmware?

TMK port for now. Will work on a fancier UI down the road.

I really want those silencing clips. Any idea of pricing?

Price will be announced at GB launch.
Silencing clips will be sold in quantities of 70x, 100x, 120x

Clear stabilizers will be sold as "one bundle"
8x 2u, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u. This is enough for 1x winkey, 1x WKL 60%/TKL board; OR 1x full size/ Compact 1800 layout w/ 2x 2u thumb spaces.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:39:47
Gimme!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: renzpwns on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:41:03
Damn, I wasn't expecting the stabs to be THAT clear, that's amazing.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:43:23
oh my god i want that pcb
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:05:33
Any plans for under-glow similar to bface pcb's? Keep up the great work  :thumb:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: kolec94 on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:11:28
will it support qmk, tmk, or easy avr?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:30:39
Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:49:27
Damn, I wasn't expecting the stabs to be THAT clear, that's amazing.

Shine bright like a diamond? :))


Any plans for under-glow similar to bface pcb's? Keep up the great work  :thumb:

The PCB already has 70+ RGB LEDs = over 210x "individual" LEDs. It's already approaching the maximum current allowed per USB 2.0 spec. USB 3.1/C needs to mature a bit more and stabilize before venturing into it.

will it support qmk, tmk, or easy avr?

TMK port. Future revisions of the firmware will include a fancier UI.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:52:49
I need all this for when my VE.A arrives.

Great job!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Vypr on Fri, 12 August 2016, 20:53:37
Clear stabilizers will be sold as "one bundle"
8x 2u, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u. This is enough for 1x winkey, 1x WKL 60%/TKL board; OR 1x full size/ Compact 1800 layout w/ 2x 2u thumb spaces.

Any chance of a 2.75u stab as well to cover the VE.A keyboard's right spacebar? Though I would understand if the answer would be no since only 103 people participated on the Massdrop group buy so there probably won't be much demand to begin with.

Actually scratch that, I just looked at the build guide and they're all the same stabs, silly me.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 August 2016, 21:01:18
Is there a difference between the two clips? It looks like one is clear and the other silver.



Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.

Zealencios would be great, haha


Ha ha, brilliant!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: kolec94 on Fri, 12 August 2016, 21:37:09
Damn, I wasn't expecting the stabs to be THAT clear, that's amazing.

Shine bright like a diamond? :))


Any plans for under-glow similar to bface pcb's? Keep up the great work  :thumb:

The PCB already has 70+ RGB LEDs = over 210x "individual" LEDs. It's already approaching the maximum current allowed per USB 2.0 spec. USB 3.1/C needs to mature a bit more and stabilize before venturing into it.

will it support qmk, tmk, or easy avr?

TMK port. Future revisions of the firmware will include a fancier UI.
how many led controller are you using?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: BAS1C on Fri, 12 August 2016, 21:50:57
Point me in the direction to throw my wallet at for those stabs. Please.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:00:07
Is there a difference between the two clips? It looks like one is clear and the other silver.

It's a frosted transparent cover. One is on a Zealio, the other on a Cherry switch to show my clips work on both switches. Due to the way I lit the picture with my camera flash, the white light scattered as it travelled through the silencing clips, making them look whiter than they should be.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: derezzed on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:10:42
Are there any plans to produce plate mount stabilizers in the future?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: rondg on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:18:08
Take my money! This will be my first 60% keyboard.

Any chance for a 1800 layout?  ;D
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:20:30
Is there a difference between the two clips? It looks like one is clear and the other silver.

It's a frosted transparent cover. One is on a Zealio, the other on a Cherry switch to show my clips work on both switches. Due to the way I lit the picture with my camera flash, the white light scattered as it travelled through the silencing clips, making them look whiter than they should be.

Oh, I totally see it now.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: ntw on Fri, 12 August 2016, 23:45:53
hnnnghhhh.... want deez nawww
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: toneman77 on Sat, 13 August 2016, 02:48:09
Holy...
PCB with LEDs and silencers that work with a plate. Apart from a split spacebar you checked all the boxes on my wishlist. After 3 boards I thought: that's it, but now i think I see my dream ISO HHKB-ish-y keyboard on the horizon... (here (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/195b5833a13dfa3331c5d01b882968a4))
Also: would be awesome if the next PCB of yours could handle split spacebars (one can dream)
Awesome.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 13 August 2016, 03:39:00
HYPE :p
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 13 August 2016, 03:49:17
Are there any plans to produce plate mount stabilizers in the future?

No, there are no plans to make Plate mounted stabilizers as of right now. Most "end game" / high end custom keyboards use PCB mount Cherry stabilizers only. The only issue at hand with PCB mount Cherry stabs were that they sometimes popped out, and screw in types would strip the plastic. My PCB stabilizer solves both issues present on PCB Cherry stabilizers.

Take my money! This will be my first 60% keyboard.

Any chance for a 1800 layout?  ;D

Nothing in the roadmap. If it does happen, would be next year. :P

Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: asgeirtj on Sat, 13 August 2016, 06:37:41
Will these silencing clips shorten the keytravel? (hope they will, that's a big advantage of o-rings imo)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 13 August 2016, 06:46:40
Will these silencing clips shorten the keytravel? (hope they will, that's a big advantage of o-rings imo)

Barely, the rubber part is under 1mm thick.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 13 August 2016, 07:11:59
What firmware?

TMK port for now. Will work on a fancier UI down the road.

QMK or something else? I'd be really hyped if QMK
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Brammm87 on Sat, 13 August 2016, 08:09:19
Well, I now know which PCB I will be putting in that hyperfuse case. Holy ****  :eek:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Gatix on Sat, 13 August 2016, 11:01:12
Love that you're using a TMK fork for your firmware. Looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Purp on Sat, 13 August 2016, 13:38:41
Are these screw in stabs compatible with the WKL B.Face X2 / B.87 PCBs?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 August 2016, 14:01:39
Are these screw in stabs compatible with the WKL B.Face X2 / B.87 PCBs?
Screw in stabs work with the standard holes for non-screw in so one can only presume so.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: japanitrat on Sat, 13 August 2016, 16:07:24
Does the PCB support a 1.25 L Shift + 1U as well?

Edit: typo.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 13 August 2016, 16:31:21
Does the PCB support a 1.25 L Shift + 1U as well?

Edit: typo.


Yes, that's part of ISO support.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: japanitrat on Sat, 13 August 2016, 16:44:12
Ah, right. Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: edel781 on Sat, 13 August 2016, 22:27:11
Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 14 August 2016, 00:21:08
Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:

What is the actual color of the PCB? My colorblind self just assumed it followed Zeal's purple color scheme.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: itskuroi on Sun, 14 August 2016, 01:03:11
Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:

What is the actual color of the PCB? My colorblind self just assumed it followed Zeal's purple color scheme.

Royal purple lookin
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 14 August 2016, 01:59:17
Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:

White/Black PCBs are a bit overdone...So it'll be purple for the time being. Will consider other colours in future revisions.

Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:

What is the actual color of the PCB? My colorblind self just assumed it followed Zeal's purple color scheme.

Your assumption is correct, and it'll be produced in a dark-ish purple colour.



---

Side note: Just had my friend @munch come by to test drive the "Zealencios" (silencing clips) with his 65g lubed Linear Zealios in a champagne red LZ-CP. Will render the footage and post some typing comparison videos very shortly. :)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: munch on Sun, 14 August 2016, 02:05:39
Side note: Just had my friend @munch come by to test drive the "Zealencios" (silencing clips) with his 65g lubed Linear Zealios in a champagne red LZ-CP. Will render the footage and post some typing comparison videos very shortly. :)

my pleasure! love these things (no shill, just sounds amazingly dampened now :p)
Title: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: icyskyz on Sun, 14 August 2016, 02:05:42
I am sorry if this question has been asked somewhere but when would those screw-in stabilizers be available?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Geekmie on Sun, 14 August 2016, 06:29:07
How about under glow support for this PCB?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: joey on Sun, 14 August 2016, 06:31:27
How about under glow support for this PCB?
Not happening.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 14 August 2016, 09:07:51
I am sorry if this question has been asked somewhere but when would those screw-in stabilizers be available?

Thanks in advance!

Will be GB'd along with R4 Zealios, Zeal60 RGB PCB, silencing clips, etc, sometime this month.

How about under glow support for this PCB?

The Zeal60 RGB PCB is already approaching maximum current allowed per USB 2.0 spec. 70+ RGB LEDs = 210+ "individual" LEDs being lit up on a 60%. Until USB 3.1/C matures/stabilizes a bit more, this is the most that can be done for now. There are USB breakout pins for the user to mod and attach RGB LED strips if they so desire...But that's not recommended unless you know what you're doing. :P
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Weiss on Sun, 14 August 2016, 14:44:05

Woah, the new Zealencios sound pretty good.  :thumb:

Personally I have to say that I'm more of a fan of the unsilenced more than the silenced. I dunno, with linears I think a lot of the appeal for me is the bottoming out sound. I'd probably use them on something like Blues or Aristotles to highlight the clicky sound more than the bottom out sound.

Either way I'm sure I'll pick some up.  :p
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 14 August 2016, 17:42:48
Thanks for sharing the vid above. :)

Here's a how-to vid on installing them on your kb:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Aricil on Sun, 14 August 2016, 18:34:39
I'm a little confused about how this actually works. So does this take away from the bottom out sound... or..? Cuz I'm thinking that this may be a good replacement for O-rings on my blue switch board.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zibob on Sun, 14 August 2016, 18:37:24
I need those stabilisers. Got a CPSQ in the works and it is getting a little bit of an ultimate everything board. I missed I think a massdrop for clear/gold stabs and kind or regret it as now that parts are starting to arrive for the CPSQ and gold springs and gold sip sockets look a little out of place next to black and blank steel stab wire. I assume the screw in is compatible with regular PCB cutouts for cherry stabs, will it fir in the chunky CPSQ plate/frame?

Is there a way to know when these are up so I don't miss them?

EDIT:

I'm a little confused about how this actually works. So does this take away from the bottom out sound... or..? Cuz I'm thinking that this may be a good replacement for O-rings on my blue switch board.

These take down the return top click that the switches make when you let off them, so together with orings this should really help bring down the sound a bit.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 14 August 2016, 20:04:12
I need those stabilisers. Got a CPSQ in the works and it is getting a little bit of an ultimate everything board. I missed I think a massdrop for clear/gold stabs and kind or regret it as now that parts are starting to arrive for the CPSQ and gold springs and gold sip sockets look a little out of place next to black and blank steel stab wire. I assume the screw in is compatible with regular PCB cutouts for cherry stabs, will it fir in the chunky CPSQ plate/frame?

Is there a way to know when these are up so I don't miss them?

EDIT:

I'm a little confused about how this actually works. So does this take away from the bottom out sound... or..? Cuz I'm thinking that this may be a good replacement for O-rings on my blue switch board.

These take down the return top click that the switches make when you let off them, so together with orings this should really help bring down the sound a bit.

My screw in style stabilizers fit in regular PCB mount stab holes.

The silencing clips reduce both bottom out and up stroke noise, without giving users the mushy feeling with o-rings.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: SKD on Mon, 15 August 2016, 01:57:32
I'm need that PCB. Where can I sign up to be notified the GB is available? I'm always late to GB and they're all gone!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Geroximo on Mon, 15 August 2016, 07:18:08
I wanted to solder my Nerd60 build today.
Now I have to wait for those transparent stabilisers.  :-\
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 17 August 2016, 04:40:42
And now I have another reason to delay my Weaven board. 😋
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 17 August 2016, 07:45:11
Theyre on slack!
Just waiting to build my all zeal x60 so we can be soul mates.
Why slack where they'll get buried in half an hour rather than here where they'll stay visible? :(

LoL  :))    So true
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 17 August 2016, 09:33:55
I'm need that PCB. Where can I sign up to be notified the GB is available? I'm always late to GB and they're all gone!

Newsletter found at the bottom of my site: https://zealpc.net/

Or just F5 GH/Reddit everyday.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 17 August 2016, 11:48:28
Having tried QMX silencers only to find that they don't work with the combination Zealios+SA... Do these?
Also, the name is now official Zealencios.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 August 2016, 11:53:56
OMG that PCB. Great job Zeal and Wilba!!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 18 August 2016, 22:35:24
Having tried QMX silencers only to find that they don't work with the combination Zealios+SA... Do these?
Also, the name is now official Zealencios.

I would also like to know this.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: vincentalpha on Fri, 19 August 2016, 04:16:32
Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Lost2Frostbite on Fri, 19 August 2016, 07:58:13
Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?
(Attachment Link)

This is one my dream layouts also!! Hope is becomes possible:)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 19 August 2016, 08:02:47
Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?
(Attachment Link)
No it isn't. There isn't a mount for the fn/up key.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 19 August 2016, 08:05:51


Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?

This is one my dream layouts also!! Hope is becomes possible:)

Maybe look into the 62/60, that may be more up your alley. Though, I still wouldn't skip out on Zeal's new stuff.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 19 August 2016, 08:29:23


Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?

This is one my dream layouts also!! Hope is becomes possible:)

Maybe look into the 62/60, that may be more up your alley. Though, I still wouldn't skip out on Zeal's new stuff.

With iss being mia it sadly seems like the 62/60 is rather dead atm.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: vincentalpha on Fri, 19 August 2016, 11:28:35
62 keyboad looks good and it has the arrow that I wanted.
However, I am not a fan of the winkeyless style keyboard. I am heavy window user and Windows is one of the most key I use. Plus, I dont have to buy extra for another winkeyless keycap.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 19 August 2016, 12:42:18
Having tried QMX silencers only to find that they don't work with the combination Zealios+SA... Do these?
Also, the name is now official Zealencios.

I would also like to know this.

I don't have any SA caps to test, but would imagine that it would only be partially silenced due to SA keycaps lacking the cross on the stem. Only the upstroke would be silenced.

Is it possible to achieve this layout with your PCB, Zeal?
(Attachment Link)

No, however if you're not a heavy right_shift user, you could do something like this:

[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]

Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 19 August 2016, 13:52:05
It had nothing to do with the cross, the Zealios housing were thicker than the Gaterons, so when the QMX-thingies were on the SA caps became stuck when depressed. Works fine on gateron blues.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 19 August 2016, 15:44:34
It had nothing to do with the cross, the Zealios housing were thicker than the Gaterons, so when the QMX-thingies were on the SA caps became stuck when depressed. Works fine on gateron blues.

Sounds like you didn't have the QMX clip on properly. Zealio/Gateron housings share the same footprint, and are a slightly wider base than Cherry.

Regardless, the Zealencio clips fit on Zealios, Gateron and Cherry switches without issue.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 19 August 2016, 16:04:08
No, they mount the same way. Believe me, I know how to listen to a click sound.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: edel781 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 18:42:54
when the QMX-thingies were on the SA caps became stuck when depressed

I can somewhat confirm this. Cherry POM/GMK caps feel "sticky" when QMX clips are used, possibly due to greater wobbling in Zealios. This does not happen with Gateron caps because they have narrower stems.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 21 August 2016, 19:24:09
Oh man.  I guess I better stop buying **** I don't need off the classifieds.  I was just thinking of building a new 60... Now I have a fantastic reason.  +1 for those stabs!  Thanks for all your hard work and dedication! R4 Black Bird and now a Zeal 60.  Now I just need to figure out how to cook the books for my wife... Lol.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 22 August 2016, 21:54:43
https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders


R4 & new products auto-opening at 8PM PDT (6mins)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 22 August 2016, 22:05:49
Picked up a pcb, stabs, and some switches.. Guess I have to build an mx board now  :-X
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 22 August 2016, 22:11:40
Ordered some stabs and silencing clips, so excited  :eek:
Thanks Zeal  :thumb:
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 22 August 2016, 22:15:50
Nice! Those are some cool ztabilizers
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: eksuen@Drop on Mon, 22 August 2016, 22:50:34
https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders


R4 & new products auto-opening at 8PM PDT (6mins)

Hey Zeal, how long will the buy be open? It usually says on the product page, but I don't see it this time.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:12:14
https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders


R4 & new products auto-opening at 8PM PDT (6mins)

Hey Zeal, how long will the buy be open? It usually says on the product page, but I don't see it this time.

Adding in the missing info in description right now. :)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:34:14
Are there any changes to the stemwobble in R4?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: eksuen@Drop on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:36:04
https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders


R4 & new products auto-opening at 8PM PDT (6mins)

Hey Zeal, how long will the buy be open? It usually says on the product page, but I don't see it this time.

Adding in the missing info in description right now. :)
Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Moistgun on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:44:06
hnnnggg these are so sexy.

I have to holdout for that one perfect kustom groupbuy, then im going all out.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:58:07
Are there any changes to the stemwobble in R4?

Yes, that's being worked on as we speak. Moulds are being tweaked right now.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 23 August 2016, 00:05:49
So I see a 8x 2u 1x 6.25u 1x 7u stab set listed for 50 - is there any chance of getting a 8x 2u 2x 6.25u for 50 as well? Don't have any 7u boards but would love to kit out all my boards in those sexy stabs.

Also, how does the PCB work? Are the RGB LEDs presoldered? I was looking for 4 pin holes but didn't see those.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 August 2016, 00:09:26
So I see a 8x 2u 1x 6.25u 1x 7u stab set listed for 50 - is there any chance of getting a 8x 2u 2x 6.25u for 50 as well? Don't have any 7u boards but would love to kit out all my boards in those sexy stabs.

Unfortunately due to MOQ reasons, 7u needs some more love and that's why the larger bundled option features 1x 6.25 and 1x 7u. For the GB stage, 8x 2u, 2x 6.25u will not be offered, sorry.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: ileben on Tue, 23 August 2016, 02:45:17
Are there any changes to the stemwobble in R4?

Yes, that's being worked on as we speak. Moulds are being tweaked right now.

This is what I am most interested in as well. Will we be able to get a confirmation of results of tweaking (whether positive or not) before the group buy closes? I would order a ton of them if the wobble was addressed as this has so far been the no.1 reason for me not to use the switches anymore.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 August 2016, 03:04:08
Are there any changes to the stemwobble in R4?

Yes, that's being worked on as we speak. Moulds are being tweaked right now.

This is what I am most interested in as well. Will we be able to get a confirmation of results of tweaking (whether positive or not) before the group buy closes? I would order a ton of them if the wobble was addressed as this has so far been the no.1 reason for me not to use the switches anymore.

Most definitely. Would take a week or two before the moulds will be back in service.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 23 August 2016, 04:05:44
Are there any changes to the stemwobble in R4?

Yes, that's being worked on as we speak. Moulds are being tweaked right now.

Any idea how to solve the wobble on R3?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 23 August 2016, 04:34:43
Too bad the stabs ended up being that expensive. I totally understand why they had to be, but still...
I'll end up with one set of stabs and one set of zealencios to try out both. I'm fine with the 3 identical MX 60% boards I have right now, otherwise I'd end up buying more.

I should really branch out my keyboard game, there's so much out there! 65%... 75%... 84%...
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: joey on Tue, 23 August 2016, 05:14:58
Too bad the stabs ended up being that expensive. I totally understand why they had to be, but still...
I'll end up with one set of stabs and one set of zealencios to try out both. I'm fine with the 3 identical MX 60% boards I have right now, otherwise I'd end up buying more.

I should really branch out my keyboard game, there's so much out there! 65%... 75%... 84%...

Gold plated stabs from originative are 20$ https://www.originativeco.com/products/24k-gold-stabilizer
So it's "only" 10$ more.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 23 August 2016, 05:31:23
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.

Zealencios would be great, haha

Wait wait wait.... Did my stupid comment now really affect the name of the Silencing Clips?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 23 August 2016, 08:35:25
Too bad the stabs ended up being that expensive. I totally understand why they had to be, but still...
I'll end up with one set of stabs and one set of zealencios to try out both. I'm fine with the 3 identical MX 60% boards I have right now, otherwise I'd end up buying more.

I should really branch out my keyboard game, there's so much out there! 65%... 75%... 84%...

Gold plated stabs from originative are 20$ https://www.originativeco.com/products/24k-gold-stabilizer
So it's "only" 10$ more.

:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: pwade3 on Tue, 23 August 2016, 08:39:43
The stabs should be compatible with any PCB right?

Like say I wanted to get the double pack for an MX HHKB Zeal60 and then a Clueboard?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 23 August 2016, 08:58:33
Question answered!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: eeymiel on Tue, 23 August 2016, 09:07:28
Does the zeal60 pcb support a splitted backspace? From the pictures it looks like it does, but just want to be sure.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Geroximo on Tue, 23 August 2016, 09:28:35
:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.

Yeah, prices are pretty hefty.
60 dollar for some premium O-rings?
I really have to overthink this once again.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: joey on Tue, 23 August 2016, 09:35:55
:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.

Yeah, prices are pretty hefty.
60 dollar for some premium O-rings?
I really have to overthink this once again.
These barely reduce the travel, and dampen upstroke and downstroke.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 23 August 2016, 12:15:02
So I see a 8x 2u 1x 6.25u 1x 7u stab set listed for 50 - is there any chance of getting a 8x 2u 2x 6.25u for 50 as well? Don't have any 7u boards but would love to kit out all my boards in those sexy stabs.

Unfortunately due to MOQ reasons, 7u needs some more love and that's why the larger bundled option features 1x 6.25 and 1x 7u. For the GB stage, 8x 2u, 2x 6.25u will not be offered, sorry.


Ah darn - can I swap in a standard Cherry 6.25u wire into the stab mounts? Won't look as pretty, but a bit more economical I guess.

Also had another question I edited into my original post but you might have missed - how does the PCB work? Are the RGB LEDs presoldered? I was looking for 4 pin holes but didn't see those. If it's SMD LEDs, do the housings have to be the SMD compatible housings? Sorry if this is mentioned somewhere, just trying to wrap my head around this and couldn't figure it out from the picture.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 August 2016, 15:23:44
Whats the top image? QMX clips?

Plate & PCB mount compatible silencing clips..Thinking of a name for em.

Zealencios would be great, haha

Wait wait wait.... Did my stupid comment now really affect the name of the Silencing Clips?

Yes...Congrats. haha.

The stabs should be compatible with any PCB right?

Like say I wanted to get the double pack for an MX HHKB Zeal60 and then a Clueboard?

Yes, my stabilizers should be compatible with any other PCB that uses PCB mounted Cherry stabs.

Does the zeal60 pcb support a splitted backspace? From the pictures it looks like it does, but just want to be sure.

Yes, Zeal60 supports ANSI, ISO, HHKB, Winkey, Winkeyless, short_right shift, etc...

:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.

Yeah, prices are pretty hefty.
60 dollar for some premium O-rings?
I really have to overthink this once again.

Try not to think of it as an o-ring that only dampens/mushes the bottom out. The whole rubber part is barely 1mm thick, so it won't affect travel as badly as O-rings. They're also doubleshot into the plastic to provide a firm but steady bottom out, so that adds to the cost (think of all the doubleshot keycaps...). These clips also silence upstroke, which o-rings don't do. Works with plates and PCB mounted keyboards as well. Nothing like it on the market.


So I see a 8x 2u 1x 6.25u 1x 7u stab set listed for 50 - is there any chance of getting a 8x 2u 2x 6.25u for 50 as well? Don't have any 7u boards but would love to kit out all my boards in those sexy stabs.

Unfortunately due to MOQ reasons, 7u needs some more love and that's why the larger bundled option features 1x 6.25 and 1x 7u. For the GB stage, 8x 2u, 2x 6.25u will not be offered, sorry.


Ah darn - can I swap in a standard Cherry 6.25u wire into the stab mounts? Won't look as pretty, but a bit more economical I guess.

Also had another question I edited into my original post but you might have missed - how does the PCB work? Are the RGB LEDs presoldered? I was looking for 4 pin holes but didn't see those. If it's SMD LEDs, do the housings have to be the SMD compatible housings? Sorry if this is mentioned somewhere, just trying to wrap my head around this and couldn't figure it out from the picture.


Yes, it'll work if you swap wires. PCB has everything but switches pre-soldered. RGB LEDs are SMD on the back end, through a hole in the PCB. Doesn't need SMD compatible switches, unlike other PCB designs.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 23 August 2016, 15:49:25
How do they dampen upstroke? Physically I mean.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Oatburner on Tue, 23 August 2016, 16:07:03
When will preorders for the zealios and dampeners end? I'd like to order a couple things but I won't be able to until around next Monday.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 23 August 2016, 16:19:28
When will preorders for the zealios and dampeners end? I'd like to order a couple things but I won't be able to until around next Monday.

Around the end of September, so you will probably make it unless next Monday is a bit delayed for you  :)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Tue, 23 August 2016, 16:28:32
:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.

Yeah, prices are pretty hefty.
60 dollar for some premium O-rings?
I really have to overthink this once again.

Try not to think of it as an o-ring that only dampens/mushes the bottom out. The whole rubber part is barely 1mm thick, so it won't affect travel as badly as O-rings. They're also doubleshot into the plastic to provide a firm but steady bottom out, so that adds to the cost (think of all the doubleshot keycaps...). These clips also silence upstroke, which o-rings don't do. Works with plates and PCB mounted keyboards as well. Nothing like it on the market.

Could we possibly get confirmation that the Zealencios work with SA keycaps? I'm also curious about compatibility with Aristotle switches. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 August 2016, 16:44:15
How do they dampen upstroke? Physically I mean.

There's a bit of rubber in the Zealencio clip underneath that acts as a "stopper" and dampens the stem when it rebounds up.

:(  It will end up being $46.35 after shipping and tax.  Too much for me.  Man, I really wanted these too.

Yeah, prices are pretty hefty.
60 dollar for some premium O-rings?
I really have to overthink this once again.

Try not to think of it as an o-ring that only dampens/mushes the bottom out. The whole rubber part is barely 1mm thick, so it won't affect travel as badly as O-rings. They're also doubleshot into the plastic to provide a firm but steady bottom out, so that adds to the cost (think of all the doubleshot keycaps...). These clips also silence upstroke, which o-rings don't do. Works with plates and PCB mounted keyboards as well. Nothing like it on the market.

Could we possibly get confirmation that the Zealencios work with SA keycaps? I'm also curious about compatibility with Aristotle switches. Thanks.

I don't use SA caps nor know anyone around me that uses/has SA caps...so I can't comment on that.

Zealencios won't work with the Aristotle+Gateron / Zealiostotle mod due to the way the Aristotle stem protrudes out the top housing more than other MX compatible switches.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Shanghaied on Tue, 23 August 2016, 17:22:07
Possibly a stupid question but I assume the PCB will use the RGB LED on the same preorder page? I can't really make out the LEDs on the PCB rendering. Now to find a purple 60% case...
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 23 August 2016, 17:32:00
Possibly a stupid question but I assume the PCB will use the RGB LED on the same preorder page? I can't really make out the LEDs on the PCB rendering. Now to find a purple 60% case...

No, the Zeal60 uses surface mount RGB LEDs that are factory soldered. The 4-pin RGB LEDs I sell are for DIYers/people that want to make their own PCBs and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Shanghaied on Tue, 23 August 2016, 18:10:37
Possibly a stupid question but I assume the PCB will use the RGB LED on the same preorder page? I can't really make out the LEDs on the PCB rendering. Now to find a purple 60% case...

No, the Zeal60 uses surface mount RGB LEDs that are factory soldered. The 4-pin RGB LEDs I sell are for DIYers/people that want to make their own PCBs and give it a shot.

Oooo, definitely good news then, soldering 60+ SMD LEDd is definitely not something I'd consider fun.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 24 August 2016, 15:54:37
Possibly a stupid question but I assume the PCB will use the RGB LED on the same preorder page? I can't really make out the LEDs on the PCB rendering. Now to find a purple 60% case...

No, the Zeal60 uses surface mount RGB LEDs that are factory soldered. The 4-pin RGB LEDs I sell are for DIYers/people that want to make their own PCBs and give it a shot.

Oooo, definitely good news then, soldering 60+ SMD LEDd is definitely not something I'd consider fun.

speak for yourself, filthy casual
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 25 August 2016, 19:46:43
Yes, it'll work if you swap wires. PCB has everything but switches pre-soldered. RGB LEDs are SMD on the back end, through a hole in the PCB. Doesn't need SMD compatible switches, unlike other PCB designs.

Thanks! Put in my order  :thumb:


Missed the PCB T_T
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Purp on Sat, 27 August 2016, 13:45:58
@zeal: Are these transparent stabs compatible with the B.Face X2 PCB and a regular PCB mount universal plate?
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 27 August 2016, 17:15:21
@zeal: Are these transparent stabs compatible with the B.Face X2 PCB and a regular PCB mount universal plate?

My stabs work with all other PCBs that support Cherry PCB stabs.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: cyd3r on Wed, 07 September 2016, 02:18:48
Oh noooo!
I've purchased the Zealerino Silencing Clips.  :cool:
When are they shipped ? can't wait ... :-X

edit: Also if there's enough room in the clips I may actually fill stuff in it to further dampen the sound :D I've done crazy stuff in the past like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/93q6Ms8.jpg)
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: ntw on Wed, 07 September 2016, 05:22:39
Oh noooo!
I've purchased the Zealerino Silencing Clips.  :cool:
When are they shipped ? can't wait ... :-X

edit: Also if there's enough room in the clips I may actually fill stuff in it to further dampen the sound :D I've done crazy stuff in the past like this:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/93q6Ms8.jpg)


or you know you could just use a topre rubber dome
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: cyd3r on Sat, 10 September 2016, 00:55:03
or you know you could just use a topre rubber dome

I'm waiting for RealForce RGB which will replace my daily driver, although i got the silencing caps for my 60% keyboard which I carry it around with me most of the time. It's a Gateron clear 35g.
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: shangrila500 on Thu, 24 November 2016, 22:35:34
Will we have a white version of the PCB?  :confused:

White/Black PCBs are a bit overdone...So it'll be purple for the time being. Will consider other colours in future revisions.




I would absolutely love to see a bright orange PCB and a toxic green (as long as it doesn't look like the mass produced hideous green color) PCB in the future! My VE.A will most likely be my endgame (just waiting on my clear stabs to get here to build it and then all I will be missing is the spacebar kit since Massdrop waited until the base set shipped out to drop the spacebars) that I would use on my main rig but I have 3 other rigs that need sexy keyboards and orange themed and/or toxic green themed keyboards would be sweet!

There aren't enough brightly or oddly colored custom PCBs on the market. It is usually either black, white, and (very rarely) blue; there are also the hideous pale green PCBs that look like the PCBs you find in cheap and/or mass produced electronics. Your purple PCB is the first purple PCB I have seen on the custom market lately, I feel like I have seen another light purple or lavender PCB but I can't remember where it was at, and I would love to see this open the door for more custom colored PCBs!
Title: Re: Sneak Peek (pictures revealed)
Post by: aya3154 on Fri, 01 June 2018, 23:33:04
The purple is quite signature I'd say now , but I do wanna say blue Zeal60 would be a sight to behold