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Title: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 11 December 2016, 04:03:04
First things first. People will be asking a few questions so I've compiled a quick FAQ:

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Why the sudden R4.5?
I've accidentally oversold a few hundred units of 62g Zealios. Other weights have not been confirmed yet, but I suspect may have also oversold a few hundred+ units. I usually try to keep a healthy buffer as inventory to prevent this from happening, but a minor record keeping error/glitch in the system caused more switches to be sold than originally allowed. Quite an embarrassing ****-up, and measures have been taken to make sure this doesn't happen again. Sorry in advance to those that are affected.

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Any new changes?

No, no changes will be made. R4.5 will literally be an extension to R4.

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When does the GB End?
Dec 25, 11:59pm PST. As per all my GBs, pre-order pricing will kick in after that time.

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When do you expect to start shipping GB/pre-orders?

I expect to receive the shipment from Gateron before end of January (right before Chinese New Years), and will start pumping out orders in February or earlier, if shipment arrives early.

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Will this affect my current order in R4?
In most cases, no. You will be contacted if you are one of the few that are affected. R4 orders are still being shipped daily and the goal is to get everyone's order (wherever possible) out before the holiday seasons.

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Second round of Zeal60?
Zeal60 second round will be pushed back a bit. Probably will come back for Round 5 Zealio GB.


Lots of people have been PMing/emailing me for another round of Zealencios, so they'll be offered in this quick R4.5 as well. Likewise, screw-in stabs will also be offered at GB price.


Order R4.5 here (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders)



Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 11 December 2016, 18:30:33
January 3, 2017
Orders begin shipping

January 25, 2017
Orders done shipping.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: daviswalkers on Sun, 11 December 2016, 20:56:53
Do you have any extra switches that I could add to my R4 order, I know this is primarily due to over ordering but if there were any that didn't get overordered could I add some from 4.5 to my 4,  it always hurts paying that much for shipping.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 11 December 2016, 21:21:05
how many free stabs do i get
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 12 December 2016, 00:24:01
Do you have any extra switches that I could add to my R4 order, I know this is primarily due to over ordering but if there were any that didn't get overordered could I add some from 4.5 to my 4,  it always hurts paying that much for shipping.

If you were to add extra switches to your current R4 order, it would most likely delay fulfillment until Feb, with R4.5 as our site has indicated all Zealio weights were sold out in R4. I would much rather have each round cleared out instead of combining orders whenever possible as it makes fulfillment more organized.

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how many free stabs do i get

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: inosint on Mon, 12 December 2016, 11:14:56
Thanks for offering a 4.5 run Zeal, not missing another opportunity to try out those zealencios.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: pikku-allu on Mon, 12 December 2016, 11:36:53
Thanks for offering a 4.5 run Zeal, not missing another opportunity to try out those zealencios.

The Zealencios are amazing, even better than I expected. The cushion effect is pretty much non-existent, as is the travel distance reduction, while they silence the upstroke and bottoming out really well. 10/10, great work Zeal :thumb:.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Neo.X on Mon, 12 December 2016, 12:48:53
wow, this GB is perfect timing. I am about to receive my R4 Zealios in couple days. If I like them (I am pretty sure I will), I can just jump in this one for another pack.

Thanks
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: daviswalkers on Wed, 14 December 2016, 18:28:26
Do you have any extra switches that I could add to my R4 order, I know this is primarily due to over ordering but if there were any that didn't get overordered could I add some from 4.5 to my 4,  it always hurts paying that much for shipping.

If you were to add extra switches to your current R4 order, it would most likely delay fulfillment until Feb, with R4.5 as our site has indicated all Zealio weights were sold out in R4. I would much rather have each round cleared out instead of combining orders whenever possible as it makes fulfillment more organized.

I went ahead and placed an order, just to avoid any confusion keep them separate so I get my R4 order asap :D

Thanks again
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: xZ3ROx on Thu, 15 December 2016, 00:41:17
Just made an order. Going to be my first time trying these out. I don't know if I will be patient enough to wait.


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Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 15 December 2016, 02:21:55
Ordered some stuff as well. Will you ship r4 orders separately?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 15 December 2016, 03:00:13
Yeah, R4 will ship separately from R4.5.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: pomk on Thu, 15 December 2016, 05:34:12
If I order the zealio sampler pack, would it be possible to get a zealencio or two to go with it for testing those out as well?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: tj_gee on Thu, 15 December 2016, 08:39:51
How many Zealencios per quantity?

And does anyone know if the Whitefox PCB supports those 4-pin RGB LEDs?

EDIT: Looks like SIP sockets make the LEDs work.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 15 December 2016, 10:02:30
If I order the zealio sampler pack, would it be possible to get a zealencio or two to go with it for testing those out as well?

;) If you ask nicely

How many Zealencios per quantity?

And does anyone know if the Whitefox PCB supports those 4-pin RGB LEDs?

EDIT: Looks like SIP sockets make the LEDs work.

Not sure what you mean by the first question. There's a drop down menu for the number of Zealencios you'd like with the corresponding price. 70x, 100x, 120x at different price tiers.

Whitefox PCB does not support 4 pin RGB.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: tj_gee on Thu, 15 December 2016, 10:23:06
I must be blind. I missed the top quantity box earlier.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 15 December 2016, 11:48:07
How many switches are there in the sampler pack? Only one of each?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 15 December 2016, 12:16:01
How many switches are there in the sampler pack? Only one of each?

Yes, only one of each.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 15 December 2016, 12:40:47
Question that is probably in the wrong thread...

I have built a GH-122 with Brown/Green switches and SA R3 keycaps.  The feel is quite good with the Greens, but with the Browns, the heavier SA keycaps seem to make the result feel more dull, similar to MX Clear with DSA.  The main 60% block is plate-mounted, which is where feel really matters to me.

This is a home-use keyboard, so I'm looking for the feel of Greens without the click.  Some sort of super-Brown, which my research indicates might be the Zealio switch.

However, now I see that there are FOUR spring weights available, and am hoping to get some advice on which to buy.

To recap, I'd like the feel of a Green, without that loud click.  I understand that additional spring weight will help with the heavier SA keycaps, but I am trying to also avoid the dull feel of Clears.  From the text description it sounds like either the 67g or 78g would fit the bill.

Any advise from other users and/or Zeal?  Particularly people who've tried them with SA keycaps?

Thanks in advance!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

p.s.  My guess is 67 for most keys and a few 78s for the spacebar, etc.  That's what is in my Zeal Shopping cart at the moment.

Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: condekind on Thu, 15 December 2016, 13:19:13
Just ordered 90 78g switches. I've been lurking here and in /r/mk for some time, and decided to go ahead and start my first DIY project, with my first Zealios, thanks for the GB! :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 15 December 2016, 13:30:08
Question that is probably in the wrong thread...

I have built a GH-122 with Brown/Green switches and SA R3 keycaps.  The feel is quite good with the Greens, but with the Browns, the heavier SA keycaps seem to make the result feel more dull, similar to MX Clear with DSA.  The main 60% block is plate-mounted, which is where feel really matters to me.

This is a home-use keyboard, so I'm looking for the feel of Greens without the click.  Some sort of super-Brown, which my research indicates might be the Zealio switch.

However, now I see that there are FOUR spring weights available, and am hoping to get some advice on which to buy.

To recap, I'd like the feel of a Green, without that loud click.  I understand that additional spring weight will help with the heavier SA keycaps, but I am trying to also avoid the dull feel of Clears.  From the text description it sounds like either the 67g or 78g would fit the bill.

Any advise from other users and/or Zeal?  Particularly people who've tried them with SA keycaps?

Thanks in advance!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.





Considering MX Greens bottom out at 90g, and MX Clears at 95-100g, both 67g and 78g Zealios are much lighter than either Cherry switches.

I don't use SA caps, so unfortunately I'm unable to provide any insight in terms of feel, etc. Hopefully someone else can chime in. Both weights have been quite popular within the community and provide a much more tactile and smooth bump than Browns.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: eksuen@Drop on Thu, 15 December 2016, 13:40:52
Question that is probably in the wrong thread...

I have built a GH-122 with Brown/Green switches and SA R3 keycaps.  The feel is quite good with the Greens, but with the Browns, the heavier SA keycaps seem to make the result feel more dull, similar to MX Clear with DSA.  The main 60% block is plate-mounted, which is where feel really matters to me.

This is a home-use keyboard, so I'm looking for the feel of Greens without the click.  Some sort of super-Brown, which my research indicates might be the Zealio switch.

However, now I see that there are FOUR spring weights available, and am hoping to get some advice on which to buy.

To recap, I'd like the feel of a Green, without that loud click.  I understand that additional spring weight will help with the heavier SA keycaps, but I am trying to also avoid the dull feel of Clears.  From the text description it sounds like either the 67g or 78g would fit the bill.

Any advise from other users and/or Zeal?  Particularly people who've tried them with SA keycaps?

Thanks in advance!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

p.s.  My guess is 67 for most keys and a few 78s for the spacebar, etc.  That's what is in my Zeal Shopping cart at the moment.

I may be able to assist you on your quest. I have a few built boards with 67g Zealios and one with 62g. I also have some 78g switches that just arrived, but have not been installed into any board yet.

I noticed you're in Mountain View. I live in Los Altos, so if you want to meet up to judge the feels for yourself, I'm sure it can be arranged.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 16 December 2016, 04:09:12
Question that is probably in the wrong thread...

I have built a GH-122 with Brown/Green switches and SA R3 keycaps.  The feel is quite good with the Greens, but with the Browns, the heavier SA keycaps seem to make the result feel more dull, similar to MX Clear with DSA.  The main 60% block is plate-mounted, which is where feel really matters to me.

This is a home-use keyboard, so I'm looking for the feel of Greens without the click.  Some sort of super-Brown, which my research indicates might be the Zealio switch.

However, now I see that there are FOUR spring weights available, and am hoping to get some advice on which to buy.

To recap, I'd like the feel of a Green, without that loud click.  I understand that additional spring weight will help with the heavier SA keycaps, but I am trying to also avoid the dull feel of Clears.  From the text description it sounds like either the 67g or 78g would fit the bill.

Any advise from other users and/or Zeal?  Particularly people who've tried them with SA keycaps?

Thanks in advance!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

p.s.  My guess is 67 for most keys and a few 78s for the spacebar, etc.  That's what is in my Zeal Shopping cart at the moment.

Might be able to weigh in too: I use greens with GMK caps at home so know the feel quite well. I use lubed 67g's at the office and had SA caps on them for a long time. The difference is quite big and not comparable to greens at all. I have a Planck with 78gs but don't use it often. In any case: 67gs, while they feel orgasmic, do not feel like greens.

I've also recently switched from SA caps back to GMK on my 67gs. Feels much better.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 16 December 2016, 10:00:26
Thank you very much.  This is quite helpful.  I am meeting eksuer to give the Zealios a try anyhow, but I think I may need heavier springs to create more preload to support the SA keycaps.  The Zealios may be, as you say, orgasmic, but they might not have magical properties after all.

Still, what would it hurt to try a board's worth of them?  I'll look carefully at the order page again -- perhaps I just missed the checkbox for those "magical properties"!

Thanks again!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.



Might be able to weigh in too: I use greens with GMK caps at home so know the feel quite well. I use lubed 67g's at the office and had SA caps on them for a long time. The difference is quite big and not comparable to greens at all. I have a Planck with 78gs but don't use it often. In any case: 67gs, while they feel orgasmic, do not feel like greens.

I've also recently switched from SA caps back to GMK on my 67gs. Feels much better.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: eddible on Sat, 17 December 2016, 11:33:03
Just ordered some stabs, I assume these are projected for end of January/Feb like the switches?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 17 December 2016, 12:20:53
Just ordered some stabs, I assume these are projected for end of January/Feb like the switches?

Yes. May be a bit earlier like mid January, depending on how soon production can complete.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: eddible on Sat, 17 December 2016, 13:42:10
Just ordered some stabs, I assume these are projected for end of January/Feb like the switches?

Yes. May be a bit earlier like mid January, depending on how soon production can complete.
Perfect, thanks!
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: dante on Sat, 17 December 2016, 22:19:17
Zeal,

You mention in the product description that Zealencios may not reliably work with clicky switches.  What if they are JailHouse Blues?  Does that improve compatibility at all?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 18 December 2016, 01:19:02
Zeal,

You mention in the product description that Zealencios may not reliably work with clicky switches.  What if they are JailHouse Blues?  Does that improve compatibility at all?

The compatibility comment is regarding the sprue mark on the stem. If you cut that off, it'll 100% work. In addition, after a jailhouse mod, it's no longer clicky so it'll silence a lot better.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: kmba on Mon, 19 December 2016, 14:41:52
Zeal,

You mention in the product description that Zealencios may not reliably work with clicky switches.  What if they are JailHouse Blues?  Does that improve compatibility at all?

The compatibility comment is regarding the sprue mark on the stem. If you cut that off, it'll 100% work. In addition, after a jailhouse mod, it's no longer clicky so it'll silence a lot better.

As zeal just mentioned, the sprue mark (the little nub that sticks up on the green/blue slider in clicky switches, right next to the keycap stem) will prevent the zealencio from sitting correctly on the switch.  Snip it off with a flush cutter and they should fit fine.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 19 December 2016, 16:13:10
Hmm.. I can not find any link for changing my shipping address after I have entered it.

Order done. The shipping address is correct, only that the country code in my telephone number was entered twice: once by me and once by the system, apparently. But I won't have it delivered to my door so it won't matter anyway.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 19 December 2016, 16:51:12
Hmm.. I can not find any link for changing my shipping address after I have entered it.

Order done. The shipping address is correct, only that the country code in my telephone number was entered twice: once by me and once by the system, apparently. But I won't have it delivered to my door so it won't matter anyway.

No problem, I found it and removed the double country code.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 29 December 2016, 00:42:58
First half of shipment from Gateron picked up. ETA Dec 30.

Ahead of schedule, folks.:cool:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 29 December 2016, 01:31:20
Sweet! What is ETA, Feb?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 29 December 2016, 03:05:44
Sweet! What is ETA, Feb?

More like shortly after New Years.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: honeynugget on Thu, 29 December 2016, 09:25:11


More like shortly after New Years.

Yesssss all hail the Zealios gods
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ctrlX on Sat, 31 December 2016, 02:27:22
Hi Zeal! I recently invested in some new boards and once again I am looking at using Zealios. Going for 62g this time and I am wondering if there has been any changes made to reduce the "wobble"? Cheers and happy new year to you! :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 31 December 2016, 02:35:12
Hi Zeal! I recently invested in some new boards and once again I am looking at using Zealios. Going for 62g this time and I am wondering if there has been any changes made to reduce the "wobble"? Cheers and happy new year to you! :)

Round 4 switches onward have actually improved on the stem wobble quite a bit. Lots of happy customers in the R4 thread. :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ctrlX on Sat, 31 December 2016, 02:39:29
Awsome news. Thank you for the fast reply. Wish I had the funds to buy all the needed switches for my unassembled boards. At the moment I can only afford to one of them. I guess Zealios will be available to order later on also.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Berzerker on Sat, 31 December 2016, 12:24:34
Awsome news. Thank you for the fast reply. Wish I had the funds to buy all the needed switches for my unassembled boards. At the moment I can only afford to one of them. I guess Zealios will be available to order later on also.

I can personally attest to the improved lack of wobble. Comparing R2 and R3 to an R4 78g, there is a vast lack of wobble. :P
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ChitownM2 on Tue, 03 January 2017, 21:12:43
Definitely want to pick up a bunch of switches but don't have any immediate plans for them so I guess I will wait for GB 5. Any idea on when that will be starting since it looks like I just missed this one?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 04 January 2017, 01:17:21
Hi Zeal! I recently invested in some new boards and once again I am looking at using Zealios. Going for 62g this time and I am wondering if there has been any changes made to reduce the "wobble"? Cheers and happy new year to you! :)

Round 4 switches onward have actually improved on the stem wobble quite a bit. Lots of happy customers in the R4 thread. :)

Bought 190 R4 67g for Blackbird and ps2avrgb. Ended up getting in on Viper, Aluminum Clueboard, and picking up a TX75. Filled the ps2avrgb with MOD switches (typing on it now) to see if viable alternative. While good switches, the R4 Zealios are just too refined, ended up getting 130 more to finish the switch need to populate the Blackbird, Viper, Clueboard, and TX75. Also got the stabs (amazing), the lube (great), and Zealencios (yet to be tried). Zeal is also a great guy to buy from, one of my favorite group buys.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 04 January 2017, 01:17:49
Managed to double post. Oops
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 04 January 2017, 02:16:42
Definitely want to pick up a bunch of switches but don't have any immediate plans for them so I guess I will wait for GB 5. Any idea on when that will be starting since it looks like I just missed this one?

Pretty much received all the R4.5 shipment except for one box that should be delivered in the afternoon via DHL. Once received, switch price will go up to retail pricing. GB for R5 will happen probably late Jan/early Feb, along with a R2 of the Zeal60.

Hi Zeal! I recently invested in some new boards and once again I am looking at using Zealios. Going for 62g this time and I am wondering if there has been any changes made to reduce the "wobble"? Cheers and happy new year to you! :)

Round 4 switches onward have actually improved on the stem wobble quite a bit. Lots of happy customers in the R4 thread. :)

Bought 190 R4 67g for Blackbird and ps2avrgb. Ended up getting in on Viper, Aluminum Clueboard, and picking up a TX75. Filled the ps2avrgb with MOD switches (typing on it now) to see if viable alternative. While good switches, the R4 Zealios are just too refined, ended up getting 130 more to finish the switch need to populate the Blackbird, Viper, Clueboard, and TX75. Also got the stabs (amazing), the lube (great), and Zealencios (yet to be tried). Zeal is also a great guy to buy from, one of my favorite group buys.

Thanks for the positive review & support. :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: eddible on Wed, 04 January 2017, 02:19:32
Wow, that really was quick! Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: hatran87 on Wed, 04 January 2017, 02:27:12
Hi Zeal, Will you send a notification email after the orders shipped ?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 04 January 2017, 03:03:00
Hi Zeal, Will you send a notification email after the orders shipped ?

Yes, you will receive a shipping notification email once order is fulfilled. If shipped via DHL, you will receive tracking too.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: rabbitfire on Wed, 04 January 2017, 03:25:31
Just join GB for Zealios switch and gold stabilizer to build my first custom kb. Can't wait!  :cool:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ChitownM2 on Wed, 04 January 2017, 10:48:37
Definitely want to pick up a bunch of switches but don't have any immediate plans for them so I guess I will wait for GB 5. Any idea on when that will be starting since it looks like I just missed this one?

Pretty much received all the R4.5 shipment except for one box that should be delivered in the afternoon via DHL. Once received, switch price will go up to retail pricing. GB for R5 will happen probably late Jan/early Feb, along with a R2 of the Zeal60.


Late Jan/early Feb sounds good since I'm not sure what I'm going to be putting them in. Guess I'll just have to keep an eye out here for when it starts.  Thanks for the prompt reply!
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 04 January 2017, 18:43:33
My R4.5 order just shipped =], amazed at how fast that happened. Gotta say Zeal when it comes to shipping stuff to the UK from North America you blow everyone else out of the water. R4 arrived super quick and now this one is estimated at 2 days =O. Eagerly looking forward to the R2 Zeal60. Very happy with the switches and stabs from R4 as well! (hence the R4.5 order =P)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Dominathan on Wed, 04 January 2017, 19:53:31
Holy crap!  You're already sending 4.5 orders!?  Damn, that was fast!!!
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Berzerker on Wed, 04 January 2017, 19:58:22
My R4.5 order just shipped =], amazed at how fast that happened. Gotta say Zeal when it comes to shipping stuff to the UK from North America you blow everyone else out of the water. R4 arrived super quick and now this one is estimated at 2 days =O. Eagerly looking forward to the R2 Zeal60. Very happy with the switches and stabs from R4 as well! (hence the R4.5 order =P)

What was your order number, if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 04 January 2017, 20:03:35
Sure, 5913
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 05 January 2017, 22:37:02
Got my order 28hrs after I got shipping notification.
Best GB execution ever! Thanks Zeal!
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 05 January 2017, 22:45:45
Wow, this going quick. I won't even build my board until the summer probably.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 06 January 2017, 09:10:47
Received it today, amazing shipping and super happy with the gear. Thanks a lot again Zeal.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ArchDill on Fri, 06 January 2017, 14:34:07
Zeal, can I add stabs to my order?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 06 January 2017, 16:15:37
Zeal, can I add stabs to my order?

Send me an email (reply to your order confirmation) with what stabilizers you'd like.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: hatran87 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 00:53:51
I'm still looking for shipping notification  :confused:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 13 January 2017, 01:24:02
I'm still looking for shipping notification  :confused:

Very soon :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: tinyprawn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 21:09:26
Zeal,

The two occasions I've ordered stuff from you it has been handled quickly and efficiently. I love that your only shipping option is "Speed-of-light".  You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Thanks.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 14 January 2017, 00:10:24
I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 14 January 2017, 01:21:29
I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.

If you read the FAQ a the top of the post he explains why the 4.5
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: JDragon on Sat, 14 January 2017, 02:33:56
After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 14 January 2017, 02:47:04
After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 14 January 2017, 14:56:00
I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.

If you read the FAQ a the top of the post he explains why the 4.5

I understand why R4.5. That is not what I am asking. The post said R4.5 ended on Dec 25th. However the website currently links to this thread. So does that mean that anything I buy today Jan 14 is also part of R4.5 or is it R5 and in either case, when should it ship. Thanks
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 14 January 2017, 15:24:24
Zeal,

The two occasions I've ordered stuff from you it has been handled quickly and efficiently. I love that your only shipping option is "Speed-of-light".  You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Thanks.

Thanks for your kind words. :)

After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)


I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.

If you read the FAQ a the top of the post he explains why the 4.5

I understand why R4.5. That is not what I am asking. The post said R4.5 ended on Dec 25th. However the website currently links to this thread. So does that mean that anything I buy today Jan 14 is also part of R4.5 or is it R5 and in either case, when should it ship. Thanks

My GB/Pre-orders are ran a bit differently from others. Basically it's a "soft close" at Dec 25. This means that's when the GB pricing ends. From then til I finish shipping everything is pre-order price. Once everything is out, retail price will kick in.

Since the shipment came in earlier than expected, we are ahead of schedule and any order placed today will receive a shipping notification within a week. Hope that clarifies.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 14 January 2017, 16:18:44
My GB/Pre-orders are ran a bit differently from others. Basically it's a "soft close" at Dec 25. This means that's when the GB pricing ends. From then til I finish shipping everything is pre-order price. Once everything is out, retail price will kick in.

Since the shipment came in earlier than expected, we are ahead of schedule and any order placed today will receive a shipping notification within a week. Hope that clarifies.

Awesome. Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: JDragon on Sat, 14 January 2017, 23:57:34
After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)

I'm currently using Teflon grease as stabilizer lube (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) - would the GH v4 ZealPC lube give a better result with the screw-in stabs? Might want to add that to my R4.5 order if so.

Also, is there a picture guide for lubing the screw-in stabs anywhere?

Thanks!
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 15 January 2017, 22:41:56
After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)

I'm currently using Teflon grease as stabilizer lube (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) - would the GH v4 ZealPC lube give a better result with the screw-in stabs? Might want to add that to my R4.5 order if so.

Also, is there a picture guide for lubing the screw-in stabs anywhere?

Thanks!

Never used that line of grease, so I can't comment on the differences.

As for lubing the stabilizers (or any PCB mount stabilizers), literally just cover the entire insert in lube (except for the cross area), where the wire pokes in, interior of the stabilizer housing & the pivoting point where the wire sticks in. Sorry, don't have any pictures but any moving part where the two plastics can touch should be lubed. :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: debizzle on Mon, 16 January 2017, 14:41:01
hi zeal just a quick question about my order
i think i was late to the gb as my order was made on the 3rd jan
was wondering has my order shipped or do i have to wait for the next?
my payment went through on the 3rd and is still sasying unfulfilled my order number is #6300
thank you.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 January 2017, 14:46:35
hi zeal just a quick question about my order
i think i was late to the gb as my order was made on the 3rd jan
was wondering has my order shipped or do i have to wait for the next?
my payment went through on the 3rd and is still sasying unfulfilled my order number is #6300
thank you.

We are still fulfilling orders, printing labels in the 61xx range. It shouldn't be much longer until we reach your order range. You will receive a shipping notification email once your order has shipped.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 16 January 2017, 15:51:05
After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)

I'm currently using Teflon grease as stabilizer lube (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) - would the GH v4 ZealPC lube give a better result with the screw-in stabs? Might want to add that to my R4.5 order if so.

Also, is there a picture guide for lubing the screw-in stabs anywhere?

Thanks!

Never used that line of grease, so I can't comment on the differences.

As for lubing the stabilizers (or any PCB mount stabilizers), literally just cover the entire insert in lube (except for the cross area), where the wire pokes in, interior of the stabilizer housing & the pivoting point where the wire sticks in. Sorry, don't have any pictures but any moving part where the two plastics can touch should be lubed. :)

Sounds good. Gave the stabs on my upcoming build a lube bath, looking forward to feeling (and not hearing) the results.  :thumb:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: riesz on Tue, 17 January 2017, 08:52:05
Are there any comparison pictures for milky vs clear housings in regards to backlighting?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 17 January 2017, 10:34:43
Zeal,

The two occasions I've ordered stuff from you it has been handled quickly and efficiently. I love that your only shipping option is "Speed-of-light".  You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Thanks.

Thanks for your kind words. :)

After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)


I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.

If you read the FAQ a the top of the post he explains why the 4.5

I understand why R4.5. That is not what I am asking. The post said R4.5 ended on Dec 25th. However the website currently links to this thread. So does that mean that anything I buy today Jan 14 is also part of R4.5 or is it R5 and in either case, when should it ship. Thanks

My GB/Pre-orders are ran a bit differently from others. Basically it's a "soft close" at Dec 25. This means that's when the GB pricing ends. From then til I finish shipping everything is pre-order price. Once everything is out, retail price will kick in.

Since the shipment came in earlier than expected, we are ahead of schedule and any order placed today will receive a shipping notification within a week. Hope that clarifies.

Hey zeal I know you're working hard over there but another question for you. I have a couple keyboards I plan on building around end of march-may and I'd like them to have zeal stabs. Will the R5 you have going in feb offer them again at GB pricing? Trying to figure out if I should order now at preorder pricing or just wait it out since I don't need them for a few months


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Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Ozbourn on Tue, 17 January 2017, 11:54:42
What is the normal GB price for these? Will you be doing R5 soon?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 17 January 2017, 15:15:47
Are there any comparison pictures for milky vs clear housings in regards to backlighting?

I don't have any official pictures, but in general milky housing = more diffused, clear housing=brighter.

Zeal,

The two occasions I've ordered stuff from you it has been handled quickly and efficiently. I love that your only shipping option is "Speed-of-light".  You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Thanks.

Thanks for your kind words. :)

After trying out the screw in stabs, bought 4 more sets. No rattle, no mush.  :thumb:
I am excited to try them. Did you lube or is it not needed with these?

Lube makes everything better. Lube the insert+housing interior + wire joint for a good time. :)


I am confused regarding the stuff that is being sold right now. Is it also part of R4.5 or is it R5? If the latter, when is it expected to be shipped? Thanks.

If you read the FAQ a the top of the post he explains why the 4.5

I understand why R4.5. That is not what I am asking. The post said R4.5 ended on Dec 25th. However the website currently links to this thread. So does that mean that anything I buy today Jan 14 is also part of R4.5 or is it R5 and in either case, when should it ship. Thanks

My GB/Pre-orders are ran a bit differently from others. Basically it's a "soft close" at Dec 25. This means that's when the GB pricing ends. From then til I finish shipping everything is pre-order price. Once everything is out, retail price will kick in.

Since the shipment came in earlier than expected, we are ahead of schedule and any order placed today will receive a shipping notification within a week. Hope that clarifies.

Hey zeal I know you're working hard over there but another question for you. I have a couple keyboards I plan on building around end of march-may and I'd like them to have zeal stabs. Will the R5 you have going in feb offer them again at GB pricing? Trying to figure out if I should order now at preorder pricing or just wait it out since I don't need them for a few months


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Yes, the stabilizers will be offered in R5 at GB pricing.

What is the normal GB price for these? Will you be doing R5 soon?

$0.75/switch + standard 4.5% "tax/handling fee" that's applied at checkout.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: eddible on Wed, 18 January 2017, 08:52:46
Got my stabs! Jeez Zeal, these things are amazing, you've got to figure out a way to stock these constantly, I don't think I'll be able to do another build with anything else! Many thanks! :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: kmba on Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:46:22
Any physical switch changes planned for r5 compared to 4/4.5?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 January 2017, 17:32:18
Any physical switch changes planned for r5 compared to 4/4.5?

Happy with the current R4/R4.5 switches. No plans to do any modifications for R5.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 18 January 2017, 20:22:06
Any physical switch changes planned for r5 compared to 4/4.5?

Happy with the current R4/R4.5 switches. No plans to do any modifications for R5.

I mean, flames would be cool.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 01:33:38
Nvm, seems like it's too early for me to read a whole sentence.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 19 January 2017, 05:01:22
Okay, apparently I do have to talk to DHL soon... How exactly was this marked for customs, so I know what they want me to answer?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 January 2017, 10:56:06
Okay, apparently I do have to talk to DHL soon... How exactly was this marked for customs, so I know what they want me to answer?

Sent you an email.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 January 2017, 13:58:52
Any physical switch changes planned for r5 compared to 4/4.5?

Happy with the current R4/R4.5 switches. No plans to do any modifications for R5.

OK, just curious. My 4.5 are arriving today and I don't expect to have any negative feedback :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: jKaw on Fri, 20 January 2017, 11:41:13
Any physical switch changes planned for r5 compared to 4/4.5?

Happy with the current R4/R4.5 switches. No plans to do any modifications for R5.


Sounds good! I don't know how they were before, but I'm loving the 78g, might want to change to 65 since I played with the different switches a bit.


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Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 20 January 2017, 12:05:50
Got my R4.5 switches, really quick shipping and fulfillment. They do seem sturdier than previous rounds but I can't say for sure until I use them in my next builds, need my boards to come already! :D
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:23:28
Was starting to build my tx-75 with some gaterons and as the soldering iron heated up I had a change of heart and put everything back in the box.  Went and ordered 100 more zealit's switches and stabs seeing that I would not be happy with the board with anything less as I love these damn switches.  Now I wait.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:57:58
Was starting to build my tx-75 with some gaterons and as the soldering iron heated up I had a change of heart and put everything back in the box.  Went and ordered 100 more zealit's switches and stabs seeing that I would not be happy with the board with anything less as I love these damn switches.  Now I wait.
I know exactly what you mean. Has happened to twice. I still have ~120 MX clear switches just collecting dust. This time I'm gonna put in the 62g Zealios. Also in a TX75 ;-)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 23 January 2017, 19:18:07
Was starting to build my tx-75 with some gaterons and as the soldering iron heated up I had a change of heart and put everything back in the box.  Went and ordered 100 more zealit's switches and stabs seeing that I would not be happy with the board with anything less as I love these damn switches.  Now I wait.
I know exactly what you mean. Has happened to twice. I still have ~120 MX clear switches just collecting dust. This time I'm gonna put in the 62g Zealios. Also in a TX75 ;-)
Ahh nice man I'm also going with the 62g which I already have in one board and they are my favorite switches and it's not even close
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 25 January 2017, 18:10:43
All orders shipped. :)
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: eldonw on Wed, 25 January 2017, 18:45:17
Any estimate when R5 will start?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 25 January 2017, 20:24:36
Any estimate when R5 will start?

End of the month/ early Feb.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Korseir on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:23:47
Just got my 78g zealios and they feel glorious. Thank you sir for an amazing product :)

(Out of curiosity is your spring a sprit spring?
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:30:25
Just got my 78g zealios and they feel glorious. Thank you sir for an amazing product :)

(Out of curiosity is your spring a sprit spring?

No, springs are custom made per my spec.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: yookwh on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:35:45
Just got my Zealencios installed, and my god the change in noise is astounding. I look forward to your next drop, Zeal. My experience has been nothing short of positive. Seriously, keep up the good work.  :thumb:
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 21:34:37
Ordered 100 switches and stabs 3 days ago and they arrived ad my doorstep today.  Thanks for the fast service zeal even though my bank thought I was funding terrorists by buying in canada.
Title: Re: R4.5 Zealios/Zealencios/Zstabs quick & short GB (Complete)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:06:29
Ordered 100 switches and stabs 3 days ago and they arrived ad my doorstep today.  Thanks for the fast service zeal even though my bank thought I was funding terrorists by buying in canada.

:dogethink: