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Title: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 06 August 2017, 03:27:25
IBM Beamspring (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-5640534-BEAM-SPRING-CLICKY-MECHANICAL-KEY-TERMINAL-KEYBOARD-TESTED-/282599785817), dragged behind car for only a couple of minutes but otherwise in terrific shape, only $502.50 plus shipping!!


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ksUAAOSwjTlZhgeh/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fanpeople on Sun, 06 August 2017, 04:04:58
Great find!!!!!!! AND GOOD VALUE
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 06 August 2017, 09:29:49
I like how it was originally listed for $750. I bet there is rust hiding inside. Perhaps we could start tagging not so great finds like with a [NSG] prefix?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sun, 06 August 2017, 17:54:34
Missed your chance at a great deal! - it's back up to $750 now. And look closely a the the pic - in between the keys. Looks like there's a surprise inside!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 07 August 2017, 14:29:58
$399 now  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: clickityClackity on Mon, 07 August 2017, 22:41:43
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but if this authentic it could be one of a kind. Stick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222603998046

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Voixdelion on Tue, 08 August 2017, 02:14:17
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but if this authentic it could be one of a kind. Stick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222603998046



Well now I'm curious!  I sent the seller a message to inquire whether it was a photo of the actual stick that would be sent vs simply a representative example of a stick we might get in similar condition....

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 08 August 2017, 03:29:41
I like how it was originally listed for $750. I bet there is rust hiding inside. Perhaps we could start tagging not so great finds like with a [NSG] prefix?

Questionable finds are posted here so regularly, it prompted me to suggest a separate topic for them (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89689.0) a while ago. (After all, posting about them here in Great Finds also requires one to be sarcastic, when the goofiness of the Find itself should be sufficient.) But though the idea met with general enthusiasm, the admins remained silent, until I finally wrung what entertainment I could out of the idea and gave up.

However, this thread, within Great Finds could be made sticky, and we could post all the NSGFs to it in one endless stream. That'd be okay with me. For now I'll leave it in the hands of you, my fellow NSGF enthusiasts, and see if it picks up any steam, stickiness-wise.


Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but if this authentic it could be one of a kind. Stick:
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/222603998046

LOL! It's used, though. Presumably, all sticks are used, having been used by the tree. What would an unused stick look like? One grown in a lab maybe? A stick lab?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 08 August 2017, 10:14:38
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but if this authentic it could be one of a kind. Stick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222603998046

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

"Excellent condition. Great gift with endless possibilities. Cruelty-free, was not forcibly removed from donor tree." I wonder if it 100% organic, non-GMO, gluten-free, and fair trade certified.

That is hilarious. eBay even has poo on a stick.

Also I see this NSGF is now up to $500. There almost needs to be a chart to watch these price fluctuations. It's like the bitcoin of keyboards.

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 08 August 2017, 22:34:04
This sold for $299.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mrduul on Wed, 09 August 2017, 01:38:08
That is about right, this beamspring is unique with the IBM badge and the top compartment. never seen one like this actually.

Needs it paint stripped and a good powder coat
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 10 August 2017, 18:18:11
Interestingly, the same seller has just listed another just like it (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-5640534-BEAM-SPRING-CLICKY-MECHANICAL-KEY-TERMINAL-KEYBOARD-TESTED-/282605980089)—but this time he's painted it first. Could it be the same board? Or maybe he had more than one in similar condition? And is it anyone here?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SneakyRobb on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:47:23
Interestingly, the same seller has just listed another just like it (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-5640534-BEAM-SPRING-CLICKY-MECHANICAL-KEY-TERMINAL-KEYBOARD-TESTED-/282605980089)—but this time he's painted it first. Could it be the same board? Or maybe he had more than one in similar condition? And is it anyone here?

Very strange. It could be the same. Regardless  I would prefer them to not repaint it. The colour is off. It would have been better to sell as is. I'd rather bare metal than an imitation which they say could easily scratch or chip

With that much rust I would be somewhat concerned about the interior condition of this board.  Seller says it works, but even dust can affect these. That much rust without the shield on is pretty sad. They went to the trouble to remove the keycaps and clean them but not the rust? Also painting the case though? Why not a quick rinse of the upper metal frame and sealing? Very odd.

I don't think it's malicious, but this is odd. It's clearly a real BS, but why did they do this to it...?  I'd personally wait for the next beamspring to come up.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 17 August 2017, 16:32:15
Now here's a rare find: Someone took one of Unicomp's surplus blue-logo industrial cases (http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1394942) (which were never, to my knowledge, used for any actual Model M's), filled it with parts from another M, stuck the other M's plate label on the back of the case (which would've been blank), and is offering it on eBay as a "refurbished, modified" M for a BIN of "only" $289 shipped:

"Refurbished & Modified IBM Model M Keyboard w/1 year warranty" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbished-Modified-IBM-Model-M-Keyboard-w-1-year-warranty-/182721545413)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ec0AAOSwPK1ZUUfH/s-l1600.jpg)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C~EAAOSwAO9ZUUe-/s-l1600.jpg)


To be fair, they did do a very nice job refinishing the plate:


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/EiAAAOSwSzRZUUe5/s-l1600.jpg)


...though that seems like a lot of work for nothing, as it normally wouldn't be visible. And they're included a Soarer's cable, since most people have portables without PS/2 connections these days.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 17 August 2017, 21:55:15
Now here's a rare find: Someone took one of Unicomp's surplus blue-logo industrial cases (http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1394942) (which were never, to my knowledge, used for any actual Model M's), filled it with parts from another M, stuck the other M's plate label on the back of the case (which would've been blank), and is offering it on eBay as a "refurbished, modified" M for a BIN of "only" $289 shipped:

"Refurbished & Modified IBM Model M Keyboard w/1 year warranty" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbished-Modified-IBM-Model-M-Keyboard-w-1-year-warranty-/182721545413)


Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ec0AAOSwPK1ZUUfH/s-l1600.jpg)



Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C~EAAOSwAO9ZUUe-/s-l1600.jpg)



To be fair, they did do a very nice job refinishing the plate:


Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/EiAAAOSwSzRZUUe5/s-l1600.jpg)



...though that seems like a lot of work for nothing, as it normally wouldn't be visible. And they're included a Soarer's cable, since most people have portables without PS/2 connections these days.


AND they replaced the green LEDs with blue - don't forget that!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: just_add_coffee on Fri, 18 August 2017, 17:29:24

AND they replaced the green LEDs with blue - don't forget that!

As well as cleaning and bolt-modding it, along with a new membrane and a warranty.  I think it looks rather nice as well.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 19 August 2017, 18:42:06

AND they replaced the green LEDs with blue - don't forget that!

As well as cleaning and bolt-modding it, along with a new membrane and a warranty.  I think it looks rather nice as well.

Yes, it looks great. Except that it's not a real Industrial Model M, but a kind of simulation of one.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 19 August 2017, 18:49:27
Wow!! Check this out:

IBM 1391240 RARE VINTAGE CLICKY MODEL M KEYBOARD WITH PS/2 CABLE WITH WARRANTY (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1391240-RARE-VINTAGE-CLICKY-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-WITH-PS-2-CABLE-WITH-WARRANTY-/111756423610?epid=1041760859)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PToAAOSw0JpV4H8u/s-l1600.jpg)


As you know, the elusive Model M p/n 1391240 not only has an Esc key that says "ESC Reset", but also has a tiny letter T on its logo badge:


[attach=1]


...two remarkable distinctions that undoubtedly make it worth its BIN price of $275 + shipping!  :?)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: just_add_coffee on Sun, 20 August 2017, 00:29:33
Yes, it looks great. Except that it's not a real Industrial Model M, but a kind of simulation of one.

It's not trying to be a "real" Industrial Model M.  Certainly not at that price and with the original label on the back.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 20 August 2017, 07:58:05
Yes, it looks great. Except that it's not a real Industrial Model M, but a kind of simulation of one.

It's not trying to be a "real" Industrial Model M.  Certainly not at that price and with the original label on the back.

But... but... [sounds of flusterment]

"Real" Industrials—that is, those that don't look like Industrials that have never existed—go for considerably less than this, not more.

And as I pointed out, the "original" label on the back of this was no label—not a plate label, which would never be seen on the back of any M, ever.

But wait a minute, look more closely at the photos... The seller didn't just put a plate label on the back of the case; they also put a case label (from, I'm guessing, the non-Industrial M the inner parts came from) on the plate. Too weird! Er, I mean, just another thing that makes this such an incredible value [ahem] !
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 20 August 2017, 08:02:32
IBM Model M Clicky PS/2 Keyboard Lexmark captured CABLE WORKING 23DEC93 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-Keyboard-Lexmark-captured-CABLE-WORKING-23DEC93-/332350961092)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ADcAAOSwrx5UWa4F/s-l1600.jpg)


Don't you hate it when your Model M cables run away, never to be seen again? You won't worry about that with this M—its cable has been captured! Buh ha ha!!

They just mean it's non-removable, of course. I've seen several sellers use this colorful term.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Tuntematon on Mon, 21 August 2017, 16:06:36
Unfortunately, the listing ended but the seller may relist at some point. Keep your eyes peeled!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/S0E-KCY013-A1C1923-601-1904-701-1678-G81-1800H-722-0088-Keyboard-T82071-/282557009930?hash=item41c9b5d00a%3Ag%3AQL4AAOSwPWRZW8WJ&nma=true&si=6RqwE%252F97UvbZM6YiKOStjRu5XPY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:02:26
So it appears that the industrial M knockoff with the blue paint job recently sold  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: just_add_coffee on Tue, 22 August 2017, 12:54:50
So it appears that the industrial M knockoff with the blue paint job recently sold  :))

I'm the seller.  And it wasn't trying to be an "Industrial M knockoff."  It's pretty common knowledge these cases are available from Unicomp.  The badge is different and in a different position.  And the model number differs.  It was simply intended to be a beautiful (to me) keyboard with the best damned keyboard switches ever made.  My intention was to create and sell a buckling spring board that didn't look like everyone else's buckling spring board.

Taking old boards, especially IBMs, and restoring them and modifying them is something I enjoy immensely.  My avatar here is a Displaywriter that I customized (https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-displaywriter-thread-t17147.html).  Here's what I did with an F107 and M49 that I purchased from Orihalcon:
(http://i.imgur.com/OS7A90O.jpg)

Here's another M, though it's not quite ready for primetime:
(http://i.imgur.com/1ITq99E.jpg)

And speaking of not ready for primetime...
(http://i.imgur.com/LI4D8iM.jpg)
... an F122, with glow-in-the-dark vinyl-wrapping (with wrinkles hiding the world's crappiest wiring), LEDs, and a solenoid.

(http://i.imgur.com/cGhK3Zi.jpg)
... a Longhorn-edition of the Model F AT (the elegant yet elusive Model F UT!)  :))

I want to address one other point regarding the Model M: The base plate.

If you've ever refurbished one of these and removed some rust from the plate, you're left with something that looks like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/HR9t2DC.jpg)
(from someone else's Model M refurbishment)

The newly-exposed metal from grinding has started to oxidize almost immediately (this is why we use flux when we solder!), and it's only a matter of time and relative humidity before this base plate is rusting again.  And, IMHO, it doesn't look very good.

My priming, paint, and polishing job on the barrel plate inhibits the rust from coming back.  Of course no one sees it!  That's not the point.  It's a preventative measure against rust, and indicative of the attention to detail that went into refurbishing the keyboard. 

In every way that I know of, this keyboard is better than the original, and I stand behind it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 22 August 2017, 15:24:50
I think many of us here can appreciate custom work and experimentation, especially with Model M's as they are so plentiful and somewhat boring when you have seen tons of vanilla M's. The blue back plate is a nice touch for sure. Also thanks for sharing pictures of your other projects. I know for a fact that I have put many hours into some of my boards in restoring them while knowing full well that I will never recuperate what I have put into them. I am sure you have as well. It was surprising to me to see it sell with a high starting price, but that is simply my opinion and also likely why this happened to make it into the 'Not So Great Finds' thread rather than as a 'Great Deal'. Sometimes custom touches do not always translate into added value. Oftentimes it is not known why an artist makes a certain decision, such as in your case where you had switched the label's. When I seen this it triggered my ocd, but of course this is something which could easily be changed if desired. I had assumed it was a lack of attention to detail, of course the other details say otherwise.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: just_add_coffee on Tue, 22 August 2017, 16:16:32
...such as in your case where you had switched the label's.

The answer is simple: I'm an idiot.  Good heart.  But not always the sharpest water under the bridge.  :(

And regarding the price, here's a cursory breakdown:

That's already $152.43, not including the shipping and handling to get the supplies, PayPal and Ebay fees, as well as items that I used some of such as paint, sandpaper, screws, and LEDs.  And not including the fact that I had to have bought a Dremel and a soldering iron at some point and had to learn to do this stuff in the first place.  And the cost of my time.  And the fact that, if something goes wrong in a year, I'm going to make it right.

$279 is a very fair price considering all of this.  Heck, the first mechanical keyboard that I purchased was a custom board from a maker on Reddit, and it cost more than that. And no regrets ... It's a damned nice keyboard ... whose only fault is inferior CherryMX switches instead of buckling spring ... but still ...  :D

And I'm still waiting for my ErgoDox Infinity on MassDrop that's about the same price, and I'll still need to put it together when it comes in!

There are plenty of things to ***** about on Ebay and regarding the mechanical keyboard industry in general; but my beautiful badass keyboard ain't one of 'em.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 24 August 2017, 06:10:45
Heh, thanks GH admins for making this sticky! Hope we can have some fun with it, and that it'll be a convenient way to keep our "not so great" observations from cluttering the rest of the topic.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 24 August 2017, 06:12:19
I'm the seller.  And it wasn't trying to be an "Industrial M knockoff."  It's pretty common knowledge these cases are available from Unicomp.  The badge is different and in a different position.  And the model number differs.  It was simply intended to be a beautiful (to me) keyboard with the best damned keyboard switches ever made...

That's fair enough, dude. We just see peeps now and then (usually not anyone here) trying to pass off pieced-together boards as originals, so we like to draw each other's attention to them to discuss them, more as a protective habit than anything else... And I guess in the process we've gotten into the habit of having a bit of fun with them as well.

Fact is, no Industrial ever had a blue logo (far as I know). So if there's any question, it never hurts to include a blurb to the effect of "BTW, this is not an original IBM variant... I have combined an existing Model M's mechanism with a new Industrial case from Unicomp", etc. That way it's clear you're not trying to pull anything over on anybody—or that anyone will buy it thinking they're getting something with particular value to people who collect vintage boards.

No one could deny you did a first-class job modding this board, though—that took real time and talent. (What I actually meant about your plate refinish was that it was too bad it wouldn't be visible, because it looks so cool.)

Anyway, thanks for wading in and giving us the rest of the details.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 03 September 2017, 05:09:11
Razer BlackWidow Chroma Clicky Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Chroma, New (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Razer-BlackWidow-Chroma-Clicky-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Chroma-New-/291738989140?epid=710058230)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p2sAAOSwVghXEYOJ/s-l1600.jpg)


Buy It Now—just $413.56 !! Free shipping!

(Or get one at Best Buy for, like, $140...?)

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 September 2017, 21:46:57
Razer BlackWidow Chroma Clicky Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Chroma, New (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Razer-BlackWidow-Chroma-Clicky-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Chroma-New-/291738989140?epid=710058230)


Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p2sAAOSwVghXEYOJ/s-l1600.jpg)



Buy It Now—just $413.56 !! Free shipping!

(Or get one at Best Buy for, like, $140...?)

What's more ironic (or moronic) is the seller's name: SuperDealExpress
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 14 September 2017, 02:57:51
IBM Keyboard Model M 1390131 Square Logo Original IBM Black Cord (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-Model-M-1390131-Square-Logo-Original-IBM-Black-Cord-/112563433456)

Starting price: $290.00 (0 bids)

BIN: $490.00

"...This keyboard is in great condition, with minor glue residue on the bottom, which can be rubbed off.  I chose to not touch the keyboard to preserve it for a proper restoration.  It will most likely need the bolt mod, the left shift key is not registering."

Erm, should I tell them they're dreaming, or would one of you like to? (If '131s are worth that much now, my wife will be delighted!)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 17 September 2017, 20:39:10
So many things wrong with this. Might be a fun novelty or could make for a holiday gift.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Movie-Film-Prop-VINTAGE-Psychedelic-PS2-Keyboard-HP-KB-0228-Rainbow-Peace-/152707122796?hash=item238e0dc66c:g:sG0AAOSwd0BVrwyR

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 17 September 2017, 20:40:36
So many things wrong with this. Might be a fun novelty or could make for an interesting holiday gift.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Movie-Film-Prop-VINTAGE-Psychedelic-PS2-Keyboard-HP-KB-0228-Rainbow-Peace-/152707122796?hash=item238e0dc66c:g:sG0AAOSwd0BVrwyR

(Attachment Link)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 17 September 2017, 21:42:44
So many things wrong with this. Might be a fun novelty or could make for a holiday gift.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Movie-Film-Prop-VINTAGE-Psychedelic-PS2-Keyboard-HP-KB-0228-Rainbow-Peace-/152707122796?hash=item238e0dc66c:g:sG0AAOSwd0BVrwyR

(Attachment Link)



Meh jut stickers on a rubber dome - wouldn't trust it to last very long.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 18 September 2017, 02:59:54
So many things wrong with this...

Or maybe it's a normal keyboard, and somebody put something in your coffee.  :?)

I just spotted this, er, remarkable deal:

IBM Model M 1390131 Clicky Keyboard (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1390131Clicky-Keyboard-/172866390226)


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wAgAAOSwsvhZk~PD/s-l1600.jpg)


BIN: AU $850.00 (apx. US $680.30)

Okay, it's got the box, the cable, the instructions... It's a time capsule, and it's a terrific keyboard. But nearly $700??

At first I thought, "Yeah, dude, it's in Australia, everything's real expensive down there." But it also says:

> Will post worldwide at cost.

Is there any reason why anyone not in Australia would pay that much? Maybe 30 years from now, but...
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 18 September 2017, 18:38:04
You read it right—you can own this genuine black Unicomp Ultra Classic (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unicomp-Model-M-Keyboard-UB40P4A-/222641231188) for just $1000 (plus $7 shipping)!


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/EKAAAOSw2DFZtff9/s-l1600.jpg)


It's listed as "Used", but the description says "New". (Don't you love it when sellers do that?) As you can see, the spacebar's considerably yellowed—which is odd, since Unicomp's PBT keys don't normally yellow. Maybe someone was using it to stir soup, so there may even be some bits of vegetables inside it at no extra cost.

The seller's accepting offers, so you may even be able to grab it for $900-something.  :?)

(This concludes this sarcastically enthusiastic post, successfully kept out of the general Great Finds category.)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 18 September 2017, 21:20:24
Won't someone give this little pin a home? It breaks my heart how it keeps popping up on ebay when I'm looking at keyboards.  It just looks sad. I've already adopted too many orphan pins and can't take in another.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1980s-Computer-Keyboard-Enamel-Vest-Hat-Tie-Tack-Play-With-Me-Pin-/253144717723?hash=item3af099d99b:g:WC0AAOSwYlRZFeJO



[attach=1]


Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 18 September 2017, 21:44:24
I just spotted this, er, remarkable deal:

IBM Model M 1390131 Clicky Keyboard (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1390131Clicky-Keyboard-/172866390226)

Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wAgAAOSwsvhZk~PD/s-l1600.jpg)


BIN: AU $850.00 (apx. US $680.30)

Okay, it's got the box, the cable, the instructions... It's a time capsule, and it's a terrific keyboard. But nearly $700??

At first I thought, "Yeah, dude, it's in Australia, everything's real expensive down there." But it also says:

> Will post worldwide at cost.

Is there any reason why anyone not in Australia would pay that much? Maybe 30 years from now, but...

Is there any reason why anyone in Australia would pay this much for a keyboard?  I wouldn't.

Model M keyboards are not common down here, but they do appear.  NIB ones are even rarer, but not AU$850 rare.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 20 September 2017, 17:12:03
Won't someone give this little pin a home? It breaks my heart how it keeps popping up on ebay...

But at just $5.99 shipped, many people would consider it a Great Find, wouldn't they? I think you should get it—it's just six bucks, right? Aw, six bucks... Go ahead.


Is there any reason why anyone in Australia would pay this much for a keyboard? ...

Hope not. If it were one of these (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.msg2202261#msg2202261), sure. Otherwise, I'd tell the bloke to hit the frog 'n' toad.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sun, 24 September 2017, 13:31:21
What's going on with this? It looks like some kinds of foam rubber store display prop or something.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-M-1395660-122-Key-Mechanical-Terminal-Keyboard-Clicky-1985-/202063626905?epid=2238526690&hash=item2f0bee4299:g:OjkAAOSwgYVZxyRN
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 24 September 2017, 13:54:47
What's going on with this? It looks like some kinds of foam rubber store display prop or something.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-M-1395660-122-Key-Mechanical-Terminal-Keyboard-Clicky-1985-/202063626905?epid=2238526690&hash=item2f0bee4299:g:OjkAAOSwgYVZxyRN

Haha, I thought about posting that one. It looks like it has seen combat. Maybe this is a similar idea to distressed jeans that look worn and have holes to make them look chic.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 September 2017, 21:30:57
What's going on with this? It looks like some kinds of foam rubber store display prop or something.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-M-1395660-122-Key-Mechanical-Terminal-Keyboard-Clicky-1985-/202063626905?epid=2238526690&hash=item2f0bee4299:g:OjkAAOSwgYVZxyRN

Looks like I'd painted it :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 28 September 2017, 03:17:48
Quote from: Seller's description:
Used and worn. Perfectly functional. Painted black with vinyl dye. Aftermarket blank black keycaps. Includes USB adapter.

Guffaw—super-weird! A Goth version of the M-122, fer sure.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:24:47
Now here's an interesting find—a Model M 1391401 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1391401-Vintage-Mechanical-Keyboard-w-Cord-/302492814611) that's so dirty, it looks like it could have some unusual bottom-row sub-legends:


[attach=1]


Imagine fooling your friends—keeping your board covered, then revealing it just long enough to create the sub-legend illusion. "What, a Model M with bottom-row sub-legends?" they'll say. "Ooh, that's rare, isn't it?" "Yes," you reply, "and of course that's why I must keep it concealed from view most of the time."

The sellers were even kind enough to photograph it on a dirty floor, for thematic purposes.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 19 October 2017, 10:43:37
Now here's an interesting find—a Model M 1391401 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1391401-Vintage-Mechanical-Keyboard-w-Cord-/302492814611) that's so dirty, it looks like it could have some unusual bottom-row sub-legends:


(Attachment Link)


Imagine fooling your friends—keeping your board covered, then revealing it just long enough to create the sub-legend illusion. "What, a Model M with bottom-row sub-legends?" they'll say. "Ooh, that's rare, isn't it?" "Yes," you reply, "and of course that's why I must keep it concealed from view most of the time."

The sellers were even kind enough to photograph it on a dirty floor, for thematic purposes.

OOOHHHH!!  I've got this model!!

Sadly, each of my Ms that are in use look exactly like that one, including the one I'm typing on right now.   :-[  Especially when I know how to clean them.

But they started out much, much dirtier, and the only areas that aren't clean now are the lesser used keys.  So just looking at this keyboard, I generally hit keys towards the bottom of the keycap and don't use F1, Caps Lock, or Delete very often.  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 19 October 2017, 19:24:28
It's understandable in your case though, Samir, since you're working on rare cars much of the time... The KB grime could even be considered a status symbol.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 19 October 2017, 23:51:52
It's understandable in your case though, Samir, since you're working on rare cars much of the time... The KB grime could even be considered a status symbol.
My cars are in the same shape as my Ms!  :eek:

I can't wait for me to have time for ME again in my life--I want to set up all my KBs for use, photograph them well (for one of the keyboard books of course), and do the same for the cars, and vintage computers.  :thumb:

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 26 October 2017, 15:51:14
My cars are in the same shape as my Ms!  :eek:

Of course this is why Industrial M's were made:


[attachimg=1]


Oh, sorry, wrong photo...


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/IBM_Model_M_Space_Saving_Keyboard.png)


It makes sense that keebs designed to accommodate grime should be worth much more than keebs that weren't—as long as the grime was included. But people restore these and remove the grime. What's the point of that? The grime's the whole purpose of the board, isn't it?


I can't wait for me to have time for ME again in my life--I want to set up all my KBs for use, photograph them well (for one of the keyboard books of course), and do the same for the cars, and vintage computers.  :thumb:

There must be a way to tie all that together in one groundbreaking coffee-table book. I'll have another coffee and think about it. I may even have another table.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 30 October 2017, 17:21:41
My cars are in the same shape as my Ms!  :eek:

Of course this is why Industrial M's were made:


(Attachment Link)


Oh, sorry, wrong photo...


Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/IBM_Model_M_Space_Saving_Keyboard.png)



It makes sense that keebs designed to accommodate grime should be worth much more than keebs that weren't—as long as the grime was included. But people restore these and remove the grime. What's the point of that? The grime's the whole purpose of the board, isn't it?


I can't wait for me to have time for ME again in my life--I want to set up all my KBs for use, photograph them well (for one of the keyboard books of course), and do the same for the cars, and vintage computers.  :thumb:

There must be a way to tie all that together in one groundbreaking coffee-table book. I'll have another coffee and think about it. I may even have another table.
Ah yes, the illusive M industrial.  It would be interesting to get our hands on the engineering data behind them that shows each subtle difference between the industrial model and the regular M.

That would be a really thick book!  I've heard those tables are high in fiber, so don't overdo it.  ;) :D

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: digi on Mon, 30 October 2017, 17:33:00
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 30 October 2017, 23:15:56
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/

Are you suggesting it's not-so-great?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 31 October 2017, 07:53:57
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17009 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17009)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:45:24
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17009 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17009)

Awww
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 06 November 2017, 08:09:00
Its an interesting looking keyboard, but it's being advertised as  a Hall effect board - looks kinda membraney to me - guessing ST series from the part no. :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Micro-Switch-Keyboard-SD-03441-83ST13-5E-Early-Computer-Hall-Effect/192355831036?hash=item2cc94d0cfc:g:lHQAAOSwjyhZ~8iN

[attach=1]


It's only $349.99 so would someone buy it and let me know for sure?

EDIT: I do think it's a cool looking board and am curious about it. After all membrane doesn't mean bad (I like my model M). Has anyone tried a Micro Switch ST series board? I would just be disappointed if I bought this expecting Micro Switch Hall effect switches.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 11 November 2017, 01:26:12
Don't you love those old DS tildes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde)?:


[attachimg=1]


Now that's a tilde. No fooling around there.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:49:12
Don't you love those old DS tildes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde)?:


(Attachment Link)


Now that's a tilde. No fooling around there.


Looks more like a sine wave than a tilde.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 12 November 2017, 19:59:59
It's a half of infinity symbol.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 13 November 2017, 03:56:32
Looks more like a sine wave than a tilde.

Or a mustache.


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:09:17
HAHAHA!  Love all the tilde comments!  But, yes, if you're going to tilde--that's the one.  Almost looks like a hairpiece for the backwards apostrophe.  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 14 November 2017, 07:08:16
@Ander that's a good one.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: matt-taco on Tue, 14 November 2017, 21:19:44
Its an interesting looking keyboard, but it's being advertised as  a Hall effect board - looks kinda membraney to me - guessing ST series from the part no.

I saw that yesterday browsing eBay, I couldn't help but send that man a message.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 15 November 2017, 04:37:55
Cherry G81-3000 SPD (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHERRY-G81-3000SPD-01-GDD5Y0GB1-3000-Mechanical-Keyboard-made-in-Germany/182901916257?hash=item2a95cdc261:g:OzsAAOSwZtlaDBEr) without keycaps for USD 98.21 plus shipping. Stabilizers supports are also missing so the board is pretty much unusable.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:27:31
Only $2200!  :eek:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dfadc3f84cf0646588b72187c8c3fe8e1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D262657942962&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&autorefresh=true

Model M Industrial in box new old stock.  :eek:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 16 November 2017, 19:15:32
Only $2200!  :eek:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345

Well, it is NIB, and you don't see many NIB Industrials... I sure wouldn't spend that much, but someone out there is probably hysterical enough.

Then there's this:


[attach=1]


Some people really know how to sell a product, don't they?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 16 November 2017, 19:43:15
At that price the $100 shipping seems like a bargain!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 16 November 2017, 23:22:12
Only $2200!  :eek:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345

Well, it is NIB, and you don't see many NIB Industrials... I sure wouldn't spend that much, but someone out there is probably hysterical enough.

Then there's this:


(Attachment Link)


Some people really know how to sell a product, don't they?

[sing to brass monkey by beastie boys]
That's clunky
that M's so clunky
so clunky
we think it's money

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 30 November 2017, 18:36:04
Vintage IBM PC Clicky Keyboard PN: 1391401 Model M
 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-PC-Clicky-Keyboard-PN-1391401-Model-M-Minty/202104096492)
BIN $139.00 + shipping

"This item is in excellent working and cosmetic condition... It looks like it's right of the box, I see no signs that it was ever used. Detachable cord is still in original sealed packaging."

Except the feet are dirty:


[attach=1]


Oh well.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Thu, 30 November 2017, 18:50:41
I would agree with the sellers description. At least this is one of the older ones. Those rubber pads could be replaced easily enough.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 01 December 2017, 18:36:17
Hmmm...dirty feet from photo shoot on the table?

Otherwise that's a really nice example of a classic M like the one that came with our IBM 30-286.  Notice the ferrite core built-into the cable?  Love those!  Too bad those would probably block the mouse port on any system that uses the modern 2x ps2 layout.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 02 December 2017, 07:11:15
Hmmm...dirty feet from photo shoot on the table?

I suppose it's possible, if he's really not into housekeeping, but I tend to doubt it... It's very odd to see a spotless M with dirty feet. My guess it was in used condition, the seller cleaned it, and they either overlooked the feet or that was the best they could do. White rubber is tough to restore.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Sat, 02 December 2017, 12:25:40
Hmmm...dirty feet from photo shoot on the table?

I suppose it's possible, if he's really not into housekeeping, but I tend to doubt it... It's very odd to see a spotless M with dirty feet. My guess it was in used condition, the seller cleaned it, and they either overlooked the feet or that was the best they could do. White rubber is tough to restore.
Perhaps, but aside from the feet I couldn't find find any other evidence of use.  It could be a really clean one with a new cable, but then it's still a really clean one with a new cable.  ;D  Worth $130+?  Probably not though.

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sat, 02 December 2017, 22:17:17
I see this one sold.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 04 December 2017, 19:14:59
Perhaps, but aside from the feet I couldn't find find any other evidence of use.  It could be a really clean one with a new cable, but then it's still a really clean one with a new cable.

That was my point, actually, about the feet. Another seller did an excellent job cleaning this M (http://[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1391401-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-DISMANTLED-CLEANED-REASSEMBLED-AND-TESTED/282760034960)—but this is about as clean as I've ever been able to get used feet, too:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GMAAAOSwEEBaJYhp/s-l1600.jpg)


...unless someone here knows a secret I don't.

You're right about cables, too: They're are the other thing that's especially hard (or impossible?) to restore to like-new condition.

So, new cable? Or unused board that just got set down in the wrong place? Anyone's guess. (At least we've made it clear what busy, useful lives we all lead, though, taking the time to discuss something like this, LOL)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 04 December 2017, 21:57:28
Perhaps, but aside from the feet I couldn't find find any other evidence of use.  It could be a really clean one with a new cable, but then it's still a really clean one with a new cable.

That was my point, actually, about the feet. Another seller did an excellent job cleaning this M (http://[url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1391401-MODEL-M-KEYBOARD-DISMANTLED-CLEANED-REASSEMBLED-AND-TESTED/282760034960)—but this is about as clean as I've ever been able to get used feet, too:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GMAAAOSwEEBaJYhp/s-l1600.jpg)



...unless someone here knows a secret I don't.

You're right about cables, too: They're are the other thing that's especially hard (or impossible?) to restore to like-new condition.

So, new cable? Or unused board that just got set down in the wrong place? Anyone's guess. (At least we've made it clear what busy, useful lives we all lead, though, taking the time to discuss something like this, LOL)
Yes, those feet definitely do get next to impossible to restore once they've seen some dirt--even from fingers.

And we are just passionate people about a passionate subject, and while we are discussing the subject, we are using the subject in question to discuss aforementioned subject.  Now tell me what the subject of that sentence was.  ;D

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Duckyreddy on Mon, 04 December 2017, 23:23:39
A single blue keycap from a PFU Color key set....
IIRC, a whole set of 4 caps and a puller is just $22....

This is $15?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPRE-ESC-KEYCAP-LIGHT-BLUE-HHKB-REALFORCE/182641723826?hash=item2a864b89b2:g:GXEAAOSw8GtZU60b  (https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPRE-ESC-KEYCAP-LIGHT-BLUE-HHKB-REALFORCE/182641723826?hash=item2a864b89b2:g:GXEAAOSw8GtZU60b)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sun, 10 December 2017, 22:46:55
Won't someone give this little pin a home? It breaks my heart how it keeps popping up on ebay...

But at just $5.99 shipped, many people would consider it a Great Find, wouldn't they? I think you should get it—it's just six bucks, right? Aw, six bucks... Go ahead.




Well since it didn't look like anyone else was going to step up, I did.  He looks happier now.


[attach=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 11 December 2017, 08:01:02
Won't someone give this little pin a home? It breaks my heart how it keeps popping up on ebay...

But at just $5.99 shipped, many people would consider it a Great Find, wouldn't they? I think you should get it—it's just six bucks, right? Aw, six bucks... Go ahead.




Well since it didn't look like anyone else was going to step up, I did.  He looks happier now.


(Attachment Link)


WHAT IS THAT THING?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 11 December 2017, 13:27:27
Won't someone give this little pin a home? It breaks my heart how it keeps popping up on ebay...

But at just $5.99 shipped, many people would consider it a Great Find, wouldn't they? I think you should get it—it's just six bucks, right? Aw, six bucks... Go ahead.




Here is another for your collection.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-5150-PC-promotion-item-Vintage-1983/182958384562?hash=item2a992b65b2:g:7oYAAOSwh1paLtH-

(Attachment Link)

Well since it didn't look like anyone else was going to step up, I did.  He looks happier now.


(Attachment Link)


WHAT IS THAT THING?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 11 December 2017, 16:22:54

Here is another for your collection.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-5150-PC-promotion-item-Vintage-1983/182958384562?hash=item2a992b65b2:g:7oYAAOSwh1paLtH-


I kind of like it! But probably have enough nick-knacks  for now.


Here's an interesting board:

RARE vintage soldered ALPS KEYBOARD - NOT tested

[attach=1]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-vintage-soldered-ALPS-KEYBOARD-NOT-tested-white-T-switch-Sinclair-1000/272963536982?hash=item3f8de50856:g:S3IAAOSwWflZ-bVn

I'm not above carefully cutting a trace if I have to and I know my wiring jobs aren't the cleanest but ouch!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 12 December 2017, 05:36:56
LOL
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 17 December 2017, 18:16:56
Here is an innovative keyboard that eliminates the need for computer speakers:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRO-INNOVATIONS-101-KEY-KEYBOARD-WITH-SPEAKERS-AND-AUDIO-AT-sk-5002w-vintage/281886527408?hash=item41a1bf0fb0:g:99MAAOSwJcZWcIJf

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 18 December 2017, 07:47:01
I've never seen one with speakers. Reminds me of the keyboard with a built-in scanner.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 18 December 2017, 12:02:58
I know of two other types of keyboards with built-in speakers: The keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12644.0) that came with Intergraph's graphics workstations in the late '90s, and Maxi Switch's Maxisound keyboard.
... And yes, both types were also for Windows. :-þ

Oh yes, I can see a third one (but for Mac) in the thread I linked to above.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ed_avis on Tue, 19 December 2017, 06:19:23
What?  Never used an RS/6000?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: daskeybo on Tue, 19 December 2017, 11:29:59
Even has a microphone!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 19 December 2017, 14:20:09
Even has a microphone!

DID YOU BUY IT?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: daskeybo on Tue, 19 December 2017, 15:24:16
NO!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:45:54
NO!

WHY DIDN'T YOU BUY IT?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 22 December 2017, 23:20:11
I know of two other types of keyboards with built-in speakers: The keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12644.0) that came with Intergraph's graphics workstations in the late '90s, and Maxi Switch's Maxisound keyboard.
... And yes, both types were also for Windows. :-þ

Oh yes, I can see a third one (but for Mac) in the thread I linked to above.
I remember the Intergraph one.  I used it one break from college when I came home and was working in the UAH computer lab with a buddy of mine on homework.  Intergraph is headquartered there and even the systems were Intergraph.

We were cranking 'Men in Black' at 4am since the lab was open 24x7 and no one was there and were doing the dance trying to stay awake--good times.  :cool:

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 23 December 2017, 03:12:30
Ack—did someone really pay 99 bucks (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M-/322935227383) for one barrel from the Model F repro project?:


[attach=1]


Maybe they didn't read the description and thought they were getting the whole board?

I think this was one of XMIT's sales. He starts them at $9.99 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-IBM-Model-F-XT-Keyboard-Part-Spring-Hammer-and-Barrel-Set/282566145792), so some people must've bidded this one up to $99. Anyway, sure is intriguing!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 27 December 2017, 21:40:38
Japanese English Black Bilingual USB Computer Keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/400311799645)

Just $3,334.95, plus free shipping!


(https://i.ebayimg.com/i2/06/i/000/fc/68/9ae6_35.JPG)


Sorry, there's no photo, but that's okay—you know that for this kind of dough, you must be getting something pretty fabulous! And here's what's really amazing:


[attach=1]


There must be even more über-rich keyboard-collecting peeps out there than we thought.  :?O
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 28 December 2017, 19:50:53
This is all very funny stuff you guys are spotting... I appreciate them, as I'm sure do GH's other, lurky non-bargain appreciators.


And we are just passionate people about a passionate subject, and while we are discussing the subject, we are using the subject in question to discuss aforementioned subject.  Now tell me what the subject of that sentence was.  ;D

We're already using keebs to discuss keebs, a kind of circular logic—so anything beyond that would be right at home in M. C. Escher-land:


(https://img.kingandmcgaw.com/imagecache/1/8/si-180591.jpg_maxdim-1000_resize-yes.jpg)



A single blue keycap from a PFU Color key set....
IIRC, a whole set of 4 caps and a puller is just $22....

This is $15?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPRE-ESC-KEYCAP-LIGHT-BLUE-HHKB-REALFORCE/182641723826?hash=item2a864b89b2:g:GXEAAOSw8GtZU60b  (https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPRE-ESC-KEYCAP-LIGHT-BLUE-HHKB-REALFORCE/182641723826?hash=item2a864b89b2:g:GXEAAOSw8GtZU60b)

Yeah, Topre-compatible keys are always goofy-pricey. No doubt vendors figure, "These people spent at least $200 on their keebs [although they may not use that particular term] and obviously have more money than they can spend... What's another $15 for a colored Esc key?"

BTW, I'm gratified to see we're finally starting to refer to these as keys rather than caps (a KB term IBM invented for their two piece keys consisting of stems and caps). Historically, KB-makers have also referred to them as buttons, because they were square, and thus had the same aspect ratio as round buttons on control panels—as opposed to, say, piano keys.

And in case you wondered: A typewriter key consists of a button and a control rod.

"Parts is parts", as they say in the industry... Separate, specific names for things is good.

But I digress.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 29 December 2017, 22:07:43
Extra PBT Cherry profile 13 keycaps dye-sub Key Caps set -6u/7u spacebar-1u win (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Extra-PBT-Cherry-profile-13-keycaps-dye-sub-Key-Caps-set-6u-7u-spacebar-1u-win/222478502911)


[attach=1]


(Aside from wondering why anyone would want just those particular keys...)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Tue, 02 January 2018, 09:04:03
Looks like the Zylons got this one.


[attach=1]


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Atari-800-Computer-Only-No-Power-Adaptor-Not-Tested-PARTS/292392195567?hash=item4413eed5ef:g:vJQAAOSwbw1aKZJG

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 02 January 2018, 18:33:30
Looks like the Zylons got this one...

Hey, how did Kailh Box switches (https://www.novelkeys.xyz/product/kailh-box-switches/) get on an old typewriter? That's pretty suspicious... :?)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 03 January 2018, 13:35:07
HAS ANYBODY BID ON THIS KEYBOARD YET?

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93073.0;attach=184585;image)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 13:43:44
Nice thread ander ;D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-XT-Model-F-Keyboard-1501100-Brand-New-In-Original-Box/142645564323?hash=item21365693a3:g:NV0AAOSwZtlaTnOV

Love the board but the price is hilarious
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Thu, 04 January 2018, 13:48:56
Nice thread ander ;D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-XT-Model-F-Keyboard-1501100-Brand-New-In-Original-Box/142645564323?hash=item21365693a3:g:NV0AAOSwZtlaTnOV

Love the board but the price is hilarious

The price must be tied to the beamspring inflation rate.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 08 January 2018, 18:46:48
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-XT-Model-F-Keyboard-1501100-Brand-New-In-Original-Box/142645564323?hash=item21365693a3:g:NV0AAOSwZtlaTnOV
Love the board but the price is hilarious

It looks like an example of the philosophy, "You never know till you try." And indeed, with something like a NIB Model F, it just takes one person to come along who has so much dough they can't spend it as fast as they make it.

And believe me, there are lots of peeps out there like that. As time goes by, the disparity between rich and poor just grows wider; it's an unfortunate drawback of capitalism.

When I used to play piano at fancy resorts, I often looked around and thought, "During that last tune I played, most of these people have made more money than I'll make all night, just by sitting there drinking cocktails."

The trick is for the rich people to give away just enough money to keep the poor ones from rebelling. History's full of such periods of serf-management. Some of them end famously in disaster, but most of them succeed, especially when clever inventions like religion are used to keep the peasants in line. But I digress.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 12:25:04
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-XT-Model-F-Keyboard-1501100-Brand-New-In-Original-Box/142645564323?hash=item21365693a3:g:NV0AAOSwZtlaTnOV
Love the board but the price is hilarious

It looks like an example of the philosophy, "You never know till you try." And indeed, with something like a NIB Model F, it just takes one person to come along who has so much dough they can't spend it as fast as they make it.

And believe me, there are lots of peeps out there like that. As time goes by, the disparity between rich and poor just grows wider; it's an unfortunate drawback of capitalism.

When I used to play piano at fancy resorts, I often looked around and thought, "During that last tune I played, most of these people have made more money than I'll make all night, just by sitting there drinking cocktails."

The trick is for the rich people to give away just enough money to keep the poor ones from rebelling. History's full of such periods of serf-management. Some of them end famously in disaster, but most of them succeed, especially when clever inventions like religion are used to keep the peasants in line. But I digress.

Capitalism, A History

You hit the nail on the head though, Ander. The concept of the head giving the body just enough to keep it from being up in arms is mirrored everywhere - as a child in a household, in the workplace, in groupbuys... Reminds me of why I got into Real Estate. Would love to eventually just own enough land/property to live off of. My roomate's father has a boatyard and makes 25$ an hour sitting on his ass although he owns a boat repair/detailing business as well.

Anyway, one of the more common examples of this pricing phenomenon I've seen is with the Chicony 5161. Ones with blue alps in the past have sold for 200+ obviously so we have sellers listing their 5161 in the same range without any awareness of the switches, which as you know, vary greatly. Bothers me most when they have opted not to receive any messages! Maybe someday someone will take the risk but its rather hopeful!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 12 January 2018, 01:12:25
...Anyway, one of the more common examples of this pricing phenomenon I've seen is with the Chicony 5161. Ones with blue alps in the past have sold for 200+ obviously so we have sellers listing their 5161 in the same range without any awareness of the switches, which as you know, vary greatly.

Yeah, I've seen that, and it's wacky. On the plus side, there are many other White Alps boards of equal or superior build quality.

Bothers me most when they have opted not to receive any messages!

Even if they did, though, do you think you could get keeb-ignorant sellers to relist their boards for much lower prices just by telling them they had less valuable switches? Most people don't want to bother reading through forum threads to learn about stuff like that.
Title: IBM Model F with original box! Except it's not, actually...
Post by: ander on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:19:35
"Vintage Original IBM PC 5150 Keyboard From 1982 in box - Very Rare" (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/282813160332)

Hey, an IBM Model F with the original box!

Er... Except it's not a Model F:


[attach=1]


[attach=2]


[attach=3]


It's not even an IBM. It's not even mechanical. It's a rubber-dome BTC-5339.

When I pointed this out to the seller, they replied, "This is the original keyboard that I purchased with the IBM PC in 1982. It came in the displayed box."

I wanted to reply with that "boinggggg!!!" sound they play in cartoons when a character has an anvil dropped on their head or something, but unfortunately eBay's message system doesn't support soundfiles.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 19 January 2018, 01:10:40
"Vintage Original IBM PC 5150 Keyboard From 1982 in box - Very Rare" (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/282813160332)

Hey, an IBM Model F with the original box!

Er... Except it's not a Model F:


(Attachment Link)


(Attachment Link)


(Attachment Link)


It's not even an IBM. It's not even mechanical. It's a rubber-dome BTC-5339.

When I pointed this out to the seller, they replied, "This is the original keyboard that I purchased with the IBM PC in 1982. It came in the displayed box."

I wanted to reply with that "boinggggg!!!" sound they play in cartoons when a character has an anvil dropped on their head or something, but unfortunately eBay's message system doesn't support soundfiles.

"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:14:10
[attach=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 22 January 2018, 08:16:25
Should someone tell the seller?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 24 January 2018, 00:32:53
That a BTC isn't an IBM? I tried, but I think they're acronym-challenged.
Title: Bird-tested Model M
Post by: ander on Sun, 28 January 2018, 04:15:23
"Used IBM keyboard modified to work with USB..3ft coiled cable is provided (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-IBM-keyboard-modified-to-work-with-USB-3ft-coiled-cable-is-provided/323033697844)"

The seller has even left it out in their backyard for a while so the birds could test it:


[attach=1]


[attachimg=2]


[Description:] "Used IBM keyboard modified to work with USB..3ft coiled cable is provided... These keyboards are home built one at a time."

So it's not only bird-tested, but hand-built by the seller (who must've worked for IBM or Lexmark, and taken home enough equipment to turn out their own M's...?). A remarkable find, I'm sure you'll agree!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 28 January 2018, 09:39:19
The seller should write a book on marketing techniques.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 01 February 2018, 19:49:28
Fake news and disinformation are just a few of the symptoms of what’s wrong. The problem is something far more fundamental. The problem is these vastly powerful algorithmic engines are blackboxes. And, at the business end of the operation, each individual user only sees what each individual user sees. The great lie of social media has been to claim it shows us the world. And the follow-on deception: That their technology products bring us closer together. In truth, social media is not a telescopic lens — as the telephone actually was — but an opinion-fracturing prism that shatters social cohesion by replacing a shared public sphere and its dynamically overlapping discourse with a wall of increasingly concentrated filter bubbles. Social media is not connective tissue but engineered segmentation that treats each pair of human eyeballs as a discrete unit to be plucked out and separated off from its fellows. It’s a trypophobic’s nightmare. Or the panopticon in reverse — each user bricked into an individual cell that’s surveilled from the platform controller’s tinted glass tower. Little wonder that lies spread and inflate so quickly via systems that are not only hyper-accelerating the rate at which information can travel but deliberately pickling people inside a stew of their own prejudices. - Natasha Lomas 2018

On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 01 February 2018, 20:20:32

On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.

Most of those look disgusting but I am going to have to try smoked Gouda.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 02 February 2018, 16:03:23

On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.

Most of those look disgusting but I am going to have to try smoked Gouda.

Indeed, I find the Smoked Gouda's particularly good at taking my mind off of the world's sorry political state for a while.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 02 February 2018, 16:21:06
IBM Model M keyboard with SDL cable vintage clean tested $10 below Unicomp price (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-keyboard-with-SDL-cable-vintage-clean-tested-10-below-Unicomp-price/273051536477)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UO8AAOSwmRFac83-/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8HgAAOSw-RFac841/s-l1600.jpg)


BIN $74.00 + shipping.

The really interesting thing about this keeb is that it's actually this logoless 1397735 I posted about on the 22nd (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93664.0):


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rxAAAOSwFmxaZWYe/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PcEAAOSw~4taZWY6/s-l1600.jpg)


...with the case top from a different M—to make it more appealing, apparently, to peeps who can't appreciate how the relatively rare 1397735 was intentionally logoless.

So if you've always wanted a Model M with a top and bottom from two different M's, but don't want to bother switching case-halves between two you already own, here's your chance.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 02 February 2018, 16:28:02
What's more, it's even being described as "complete":


[attach=1]


...so they may not even mind including the original 1397735 case top, if you ask.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Fri, 02 February 2018, 17:08:21
I almost think that the top case is original but the seller has cleaned it up a little bit and applied a logo from a donor M. They also re arraigned the arrow keys and replaced the missing alt key with one with black lettering instead of green.

Also this has sold now.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 03 February 2018, 19:37:42
I almost think that the top case is original but the seller has cleaned it up a little bit and applied a logo from a donor M...

Hmm, you may be right—it wasn't put on straight, was it? (How could anyone fail to do that, though, considering the indentation's there?)

They also re arraigned the arrow keys and replaced the missing alt key with one with black lettering instead of green.

Really? All I see is one Alt cap missing, and the original green one on the other.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: clickityClackity on Sat, 03 February 2018, 22:32:33
Just.... I can't.... Here:
http://r.ebay.com/K3rvCb
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 04 February 2018, 19:49:00
Fake news and disinformation are just a few of the symptoms of what’s wrong. The problem is something far more fundamental. The problem is these vastly powerful algorithmic engines are blackboxes. And, at the business end of the operation, each individual user only sees what each individual user sees. The great lie of social media has been to claim it shows us the world. And the follow-on deception: That their technology products bring us closer together. In truth, social media is not a telescopic lens — as the telephone actually was — but an opinion-fracturing prism that shatters social cohesion by replacing a shared public sphere and its dynamically overlapping discourse with a wall of increasingly concentrated filter bubbles. Social media is not connective tissue but engineered segmentation that treats each pair of human eyeballs as a discrete unit to be plucked out and separated off from its fellows. It’s a trypophobic’s nightmare. Or the panopticon in reverse — each user bricked into an individual cell that’s surveilled from the platform controller’s tinted glass tower. Little wonder that lies spread and inflate so quickly via systems that are not only hyper-accelerating the rate at which information can travel but deliberately pickling people inside a stew of their own prejudices. - Natasha Lomas 2018

On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.

Are they cooked three times or something?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 04 February 2018, 21:04:51
Just.... I can't.... Here:
http://r.ebay.com/K3rvCb

[attachimg=1]

All the comforts of foam.


On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.

Are they cooked three times or something?

Triscuit is made from wheat, which is first cooked in water until it reaches about fifty percent moisture content, then tempered to allow the moisture to diffuse evenly in the grain. Slotted rollers form the grain into shredded wheat strands, which are then formed into webs. Several webs are stacked together and the still-moist stack is crimped to produce individual crackers. Oven baking then reduces the moisture content to five percent.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 05 February 2018, 04:14:32
What is that... thing at the top of this keeb (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PrehKeyTech-90328-730-1800-MCI-3100-Programmable-POS-Keyboard-/183031416586)?:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ye4AAOSw8b1aOobQ/s-l1600.jpg)


At first I thought it was a card reader. But it starts as a slot—then it sort of, well, blends into the board, becomes part of it.

So I'm wondering if it could actually be some kind of... keyboard vagina.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mrhead on Mon, 05 February 2018, 14:57:50
It could be a multipurpose area - some of them show having an RFID reader and a swipe reader in that weird area up at the top.   Maybe it's got a fleshlight attachment?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 February 2018, 19:41:06
On the plus side, Triscuits come in a wide range of flavors (http://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/Triscuit.aspx) now.

Are they cooked three times or something?

Triscuit is made from wheat, which is first cooked in water until it reaches about fifty percent moisture content, then tempered to allow the moisture to diffuse evenly in the grain. Slotted rollers form the grain into shredded wheat strands, which are then formed into webs. Several webs are stacked together and the still-moist stack is crimped to produce individual crackers. Oven baking then reduces the moisture content to five percent.

The reason I asked is the biscuit (bi-scuit) means twice-cooked.  This is tri-scuit - thrice cooked?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 07 February 2018, 07:48:06
It could be a multipurpose area...

Well, a vagina's a multipurpose area, technically.

Maybe it's got a fleshlight attachment?

Does it seem like we're taking keeb fetishism to a whole new level here?  :?O



The reason I asked is the biscuit (bi-scuit) means twice-cooked.  This is tri-scuit - thrice cooked?

All I know is what I stole from Wikipedia up there.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Deefenestrate on Thu, 08 February 2018, 09:12:12
Nice box.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Thu, 08 February 2018, 10:01:37
Ack—did someone really pay 99 bucks (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M-/322935227383) for one barrel from the Model F repro project?:

(Attachment Link)

Maybe they didn't read the description and thought they were getting the whole board?

I think this was one of XMIT's sales. He starts them at $9.99 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-IBM-Model-F-XT-Keyboard-Part-Spring-Hammer-and-Barrel-Set/282566145792), so some people must've bidded this one up to $99. Anyway, sure is intriguing!

I HATE THIS LISTING. It's so skeezy! I see it every time I go searching through IBM boards for anything new.
[attachimg=1]
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M/222826735996?hash=item33e182297c:g:kPUAAOSwD8BZbpQx
They are selling barrels at $100, flat-out. No bidding. It isn't until the third paragraph of the listing that it specifies
Quote
Please note that this listing is for the barrel only (the black plastic item in the photo).
but it seems obvious by the vague, jumbled wording of the listing title and the featured picture of a full board that they are banking on people making a mistake and ordering a tiny tube of useless black plastic. I have half a mind to attempt a report on these things.  :mad:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 10 February 2018, 19:35:22
Ack—did someone really pay 99 bucks (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M-/322935227383) for one barrel from the Model F repro project?:

(Attachment Link)

Maybe they didn't read the description and thought they were getting the whole board?

I think this was one of XMIT's sales. He starts them at $9.99 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-IBM-Model-F-XT-Keyboard-Part-Spring-Hammer-and-Barrel-Set/282566145792), so some people must've bidded this one up to $99. Anyway, sure is intriguing!

I HATE THIS LISTING. It's so skeezy! I see it every time I go searching through IBM boards for anything new.
(Attachment Link)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M/222826735996?hash=item33e182297c:g:kPUAAOSwD8BZbpQx
They are selling barrels at $100, flat-out. No bidding. It isn't until the third paragraph of the listing that it specifies
Quote
Please note that this listing is for the barrel only (the black plastic item in the photo).
but it seems obvious by the vague, jumbled wording of the listing title and the featured picture of a full board that they are banking on people making a mistake and ordering a tiny tube of useless black plastic. I have half a mind to attempt a report on these things.  :mad:

This listing trips me up every time!

Favorite part...
Quote
The barrel was rejected for being out of spec and will not function with any keyboard.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 10 February 2018, 19:50:30

I see it every time I go searching through IBM boards for anything new.


This listing trips me up every time!


Didn't someone recently discuss how some sort of "robo-buying-app" could be tripped up to stick you for a purchase, using an ambiguous listing and a "no return" policy?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 10 February 2018, 19:52:57

I see it every time I go searching through IBM boards for anything new.


This listing trips me up every time!


Didn't someone recently discuss how some sort of "robo-buying-app" could be tripped up to stick you for a purchase, using an ambiguous listing and a "no return" policy?

Robots, can never trust them ;)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 10 February 2018, 22:02:12
Nice box.

LOL


I HATE THIS LISTING. It's so skeezy! I see it every time I go searching through IBM boards for anything new.
(Attachment Link)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M/222826735996?hash=item33e182297c:g:kPUAAOSwD8BZbpQx
They are selling barrels at $100, flat-out. No bidding... I have half a mind to attempt a report on these things.  :mad:

I agree, it's crazy. You don't have to keep seeing it, though—just add this to your search words:

-reproduction

(You did know you can exclude a word from your eBay searches by starting it with a hyphen, didn't you?)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 February 2018, 08:59:17

Robots, can never trust them


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608248/biased-algorithms-are-everywhere-and-no-one-seems-to-care/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608248/biased-algorithms-are-everywhere-and-no-one-seems-to-care/)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 11 February 2018, 10:10:54
You could filter this listing out. Ex: "IBM Keyboard -kishsaver" which excludes one of the terms in that listings title.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Sun, 11 February 2018, 20:01:29
I agree, it's crazy. You don't have to keep seeing it, though—just add this to your search words:

-reproduction

(You did know you can exclude a word from your eBay searches by starting it with a hyphen, didn't you?)

Yes, I know how search engine terms work, but the point of my complaint isn't that I can see it and I don't want to, it's that I can see it and so can every potential sucker out there. Blinding myself to it isn't the solution I wish for.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 11 February 2018, 22:54:57
I agree, it's crazy. You don't have to keep seeing it, though—just add this to your search words:

-reproduction

(You did know you can exclude a word from your eBay searches by starting it with a hyphen, didn't you?)

Yes, I know how search engine terms work, but the point of my complaint isn't that I can see it and I don't want to, it's that I can see it and so can every potential sucker out there. Blinding myself to it isn't the solution I wish for.


I believe the seller of these is Ellipse, the the very same person running the new Model F project. You could simply challenge him to a typing death match. Also you could do us a favor and buy them so we wouldn't have to see them. Once you have them you can either fashion a necklace with them for use in occult keyboard rituals or toss them into a fiery abyss.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 12 February 2018, 06:17:19
I agree, it's crazy. You don't have to keep seeing it, though—just add this to your search words:

-reproduction

(You did know you can exclude a word from your eBay searches by starting it with a hyphen, didn't you?)

Yes, I know how search engine terms work, but the point of my complaint isn't that I can see it and I don't want to, it's that I can see it and so can every potential sucker out there. Blinding myself to it isn't the solution I wish for.

Ah, so it's the principle of the thing... I get it. Right on, then.


I believe the seller of these is Ellipse, the the very same person running the new Model F project. You could simply challenge him to a typing death match. Also you could do us a favor and buy them so we wouldn't have to see them. Once you have them you can either fashion a necklace with them for use in occult keyboard rituals or toss them into a fiery abyss.

LOL



Robots, can never trust them


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608248/biased-algorithms-are-everywhere-and-no-one-seems-to-care/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608248/biased-algorithms-are-everywhere-and-no-one-seems-to-care/)

DOOMED—we're all DOOMED!! But at least we have great keebs to type on meanwhile, so ha.


You could filter this listing out. Ex: "IBM Keyboard -kishsaver" which excludes one of the terms in that listings title.

But what if a real KS turns up, at a bargain price? You'd miss it. Then someone would post about the bargain KS they'd grabbed on eBay, and you'd be, like, "Gaah, I filtered that out!!" And it'd all involve at least as many italics as you're seeing here, at least in spirit. Not pretty, from any angle.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 12 February 2018, 15:25:22
Filtering out kishsaver would be ideal. More for me  :p Also I would recommend this as an eBay search filter: ibm keyboard -ibm -keyboard -kishsaver -unsaver -beamspring
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 13 February 2018, 05:42:48
Filtering out kishsaver would be ideal. More for me  :p Also I would recommend this as an eBay search filter: ibm keyboard -ibm -keyboard -kishsaver -unsaver -beamspring

In my case, that'd be a good formula for staying married. (My wife was a Great Find, BTW!)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Tue, 13 February 2018, 10:03:31
I could be very wrong, but I don't feel like a bit of history as a popular trader's keyboard warrants this bloomberg keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Keyboard/182882042564?hash=item2a949e82c4:g:yn8AAOSw-jFaALvw) a $400 asking price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 14 February 2018, 03:07:05
I could be very wrong, but I don't feel like a bit of history as a popular trader's keyboard warrants this bloomberg keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Keyboard/182882042564) a $400 asking price.

Agreed. My guess is he's trying to emulate Bloomberg's wealth-accruing tactics.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sat, 17 February 2018, 01:03:54
A noteworthy keyboard  ;D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toshiba-Noteworthy-VINTAGE-KEYBOARD-m-n-NWKBEXT101-ships-worldwide/192357656486?hash=item2cc968e7a6:g:sEkAAOSwLnBX9n8f
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 17 February 2018, 09:23:01

A noteworthy keyboard


Obviously too valuable to let go with in the $100K warehouse sale.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sat, 17 February 2018, 10:21:56

A noteworthy keyboard


Obviously too valuable to let go with in the $100K warehouse sale.

I see the warehouse has been discounted $10k. Perhaps the seller has unloaded a few things  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 February 2018, 23:09:50

A noteworthy keyboard


Obviously too valuable to let go with in the $100K warehouse sale.

But it's really rare rubber.  :?)

Speaking of "rare" stuff, here's a good one (zoom all the way in for the full dramatic effect):

IBM PC Clicky Keyboard w/ rare APL overlays. Model F. 1801449 1501100 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-Clicky-Keyboard-w-rare-APL-overlays-Model-F-1801449-1501100/142693655673?epid=1803612333)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9~4AAOSwALtad4Tu/s-l1600.jpg)


BIN $249 + shipping

Rare stickers, woo!! Well, okay, they are rare—but they're, like, stickers. They're stuck on there. In a rare, but stuck-on, way.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Sat, 17 February 2018, 23:21:40
But it's really rare rubber.  :?)

Speaking of "rare" stuff, here's a good one (zoom all the way in for the full dramatic effect):

IBM PC Clicky Keyboard w/ rare APL overlays. Model F. 1801449 1501100 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PC-Clicky-Keyboard-w-rare-APL-overlays-Model-F-1801449-1501100/142693655673?epid=1803612333)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9~4AAOSwALtad4Tu/s-l1600.jpg)



BIN $249 + shipping

Rare stickers, woo!! Well, okay, they are rare—but they're, like, stickers. They're stuck on there. In a rare, but stuck-on, way.

And that's value and rarity you'll be able to feel! Because stickers on keycaps feel terrible and you'll never be able to ignore them!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 18 February 2018, 11:03:33
Brown Alps. Get it now. Only $5,000 and free shipping :thumb: I messaged the seller so hopefully they price more appropriately.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-5140-Laptop-PC-Convertible-AS-IS-UNTESTED-COMPLETE-WITH-KEYBOARD/323083837303?epid=1903489235&hash=item4b394c1f77:g:AucAAOSwJRZaiamW

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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Sun, 18 February 2018, 15:16:02
Brown Alps. Get it now. Only $5,000 and free shipping :thumb: I messaged the seller so hopefully they price more appropriately.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-5140-Laptop-PC-Convertible-AS-IS-UNTESTED-COMPLETE-WITH-KEYBOARD/323083837303?epid=1903489235&hash=item4b394c1f77:g:AucAAOSwJRZaiamW

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If they are listing it with a first minimum bid of $500, they almost certainly think this thing is super valuable.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Sun, 18 February 2018, 15:20:00
Brown Alps. Get it now. Only $5,000 and free shipping :thumb: I messaged the seller so hopefully they price more appropriately.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-5140-Laptop-PC-Convertible-AS-IS-UNTESTED-COMPLETE-WITH-KEYBOARD/323083837303?epid=1903489235&hash=item4b394c1f77:g:AucAAOSwJRZaiamW

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I just saw that  :))

Also this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SILICON-GRAPHICS-SGI-IRIS-INDIGO-R3000-KEYBOARD-9500801-MOUSE-9150800/222841051717?epid=8015029274&hash=item33e25c9a45:g:49MAAOSwWEZahgco (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SILICON-GRAPHICS-SGI-IRIS-INDIGO-R3000-KEYBOARD-9500801-MOUSE-9150800/222841051717?epid=8015029274&hash=item33e25c9a45:g:49MAAOSwWEZahgco)

Bid high and bid early
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sun, 18 February 2018, 16:38:05
Brown Alps. Get it now. Only $5,000 and free shipping :thumb: I messaged the seller so hopefully they price more appropriately.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-5140-Laptop-PC-Convertible-AS-IS-UNTESTED-COMPLETE-WITH-KEYBOARD/323083837303?epid=1903489235&hash=item4b394c1f77:g:AucAAOSwJRZaiamW

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You have been warned:  "These items are intended for for professional buyers only."
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 19 February 2018, 00:35:19
This is actually encouraging. If people list boards like these for many times what they're worth, other clueless peeps are probably listing stuff for much less than it's worth.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 19 February 2018, 11:45:35
Someone beat this seller with a sock filled with wood screws. Beam spring only $4k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5640890-IBM-TERMINAL-87-KEY-BEAMSPRING-KEYBOARD-C-1982/173168164660?hash=item2851a07f34:g:YskAAOSwll1aiwjJ
Title: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 February 2018, 12:40:11
Why will Tapatalk not open these eBay links? It will only open plain text eBay links, not the one in the above post. :mad:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 19 February 2018, 12:49:37
Why will Tapatalk not open these eBay links? It will only open plain text eBay links, not the one in the above post. :mad:

Help, I don't know the syntax to do an href style link.

Code: [Select]
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/5640890-IBM-TERMINAL-87-KEY-BEAMSPRING-KEYBOARD-C-1982/173168164660?hash=item2851a07f34:g:YskAAOSwll1aiwjJ]https://www.ebay.com/itm/5640890-IBM-TERMINAL-87-KEY-BEAMSPRING-KEYBOARD-C-1982/173168164660?hash=item2851a07f34:g:YskAAOSwll1aiwjJ">here</a>
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:42:15
Someone beat this seller with a sock filled with wood screws. Beam spring only $4k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5640890-IBM-TERMINAL-87-KEY-BEAMSPRING-KEYBOARD-C-1982/173168164660?hash=item2851a07f34:g:YskAAOSwll1aiwjJ

Yeah, but it includes the plastic plate thing—that's worth at least a couple of thousand right there, isn't it?


Why will Tapatalk not open these eBay links? It will only open plain text eBay links, not the one in the above post. :mad:

Have you tried using a real computer to look at webpages, and using your phone to, you know, call people?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:46:31
You can either buy clothes or buy keyboards, it's that simple. No one who is not very rich can do both. Pay no attention to your clothes and no attention at all to the mode, and buy your clothes for comfort and durability, and you will have the clothes money to buy keyboards.

1. The rest of that contradicts the opening sentence.

2. If you pay no attention to your clothes, isn't it possible you'll walk around naked?

3. By "the mode", do you mean "fashions"? Or do you mean a scoop of ice cream?

4. How can you "have the clothes money to buy keyboards"? If you buy keebs with it, it's keeb money.

5. Do you think most of life's problems can be solved by making numbered lists of stuff?

6. Natalie Portman.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 19 February 2018, 20:32:59
I don't usually like to label things as a rip off, after all only pay what you want - but this is a rip off in progress:

$199.00 + ~35.00 shipping:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-IBM-4704-Pingmaster-p-n-6112884-vintage-Keyboard-USB-converter-tested/323086776115?epid=1723025453&hash=item4b3978f733:g:ltcAAOSwpYdai1g3

Or pay $34.95 + ~$10.00 shipping:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-6112884-Japanese-Keyboard-Japanese-Letter-Typing/382243958765

(I don't think the converter makes up the difference, BTW).

hasu's link for converter:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72052.0
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Mon, 19 February 2018, 22:03:00
Yeah this is someone's blatant, hopeful-beyond-hope lucky flip. As you pointed out, pingmasters are still available so cheaply.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 19 February 2018, 23:06:32
You can either buy clothes or buy keyboards, it's that simple. No one who is not very rich can do both. Pay no attention to your clothes and no attention at all to the mode, and buy your clothes for comfort and durability, and you will have the clothes money to buy keyboards.

1. The rest of that contradicts the opening sentence.

2. If you pay no attention to your clothes, isn't it possible you'll walk around naked?

3. By "the mode", do you mean "fashions"? Or do you mean a scoop of ice cream?

4. How can you "have the clothes money to buy keyboards"? If you buy keebs with it, it's keeb money.

5. Do you think most of life's problems can be solved by making numbered lists of stuff?

6. Natalie Portman.

The quote I stole from Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast" but with a bit of poetic license I replaced 'paintings' with 'keyboards'. In this memoir, Hemingway is quoting Gertrude Stein. I feel this philosophy can be applied universally. Art is expensive, keyboards can be as well if that is a passion. It is not a stretch to say that a custom keyboard or artisan can be considered art as well.

1. The rest of that contradicts the opening sentence.

“You can either buy clothes or buy art, it's that simple. No one who is not very rich can do both.”

The opening sentence can seem contradictory if taken literally but I think once you pull the layers away it starts to make sense.

In practical terms, one generally has limited resources such as money. Once our basic needs are met, I believe it is better to allocate those additional resources into endeavors which have the most meaning or value to us, rather than spreading one’s resources or energy too thin.

Art certainly can be expensive. Clothes as well, especially for those trendy individuals that spend exorbitant sums on all of the seasonal trends and designer brands.
It is generally impractical and wasteful to have the best of everything we might be interested in and so we should prioritize what we choose to do which likely means making sacrifices, otherwise you end up with a bunch of clothes that you likely don’t wear and a crappy or mediocre art collection at best.
 
You have clothes like everyone else and you can have pictures on the wall but very few can buy both fancy fur coats and Picasso’s, at least not on a regular basis if that’s your thing.

2. If you pay no attention to your clothes, isn't it possible you'll walk around naked?

Guess what I am wearing, or not wearing  ;) Although possible, it is not practical. The idea is that if you disregard concern for fancy fabrics or in vogue styles and focus solely on comfortable and durable clothes you will be better ahead in saving money which can be used to some greater purpose. Anything beyond comfort and durability has diminishing returns and is therefore a waste. Basically the I do not give a damn mentality because we do not care about brands, styles, or even color coordination.

3. By "the mode", do you mean "fashions"? Or do you mean a scoop of ice cream?

Mode refers to a fashion style, or generally a particular type or form of something. Mmm, apple pie a la mode.

4. How can you "have the clothes money to buy keyboards"? If you buy keebs with it, it's keeb money.

So if you spend money on expensive clothes or on fine dining, especially on a regular basis then you are wasting money in a sense as spending any extra money beyond the most basic of necessities is like throwing money down the well. If you already have these things you don’t get any more keeb money, you just don’t lose any additional from your keeb stash you might have set aside.

5. Do you think most of life's problems can be solved by making numbered lists of stuff?

No. Although useful, a list is simply a tool and not an end all solution to all of life's problems. I could also see this as a detriment if taken to an extreme due to the added complexity of having to maintain lists of lists of lists, and so on.

6. Natalie Portman.

Yes please.


Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 22 February 2018, 17:08:56
The quote I stole from Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast" but with a bit of poetic license...

JP: Dang, wish I had time to reply to all that, but my wife thinks I'm replacing baseboards and door trim, so I'd better be doing that rather than having fun. (Isn't this the idea of marriage?) Ironically, this also means I won' get to use my MK during that time, which is what this is all ultimately about... Where's the fairness? [sigh]

For now, though, yes, I have seen NP's "hip hop" video, and am flummoxed why she'd do such a goofy, low-class stunt, unless she and/or her agent were worried that the movie-consuming public thought she was getting too old to be hip anymore, and their desperation to remedy that was sufficiently high.

On the plus side, it's much, much easier to write bad poetry, swear, and use hypnotic quick-cut editing techniques than it is to create, you know, music. This has an equalizing effect by opening the field of entertainment to everyone, including people of little imagination, talent or decency.

So let's hear it for the methodical cultural and spiritual impoverishment of the American people, who've even elected a Condo-Salesman-In-Chief to epitomizes all those values in an appropriately shallow, grasping, intolerant, anti-humanitarian, anti-presidential way. Isn't it great how everything works out?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 25 February 2018, 20:13:20
The quote I stole from Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast" but with a bit of poetic license...

JP: Dang, wish I had time to reply to all that, but my wife thinks I'm replacing baseboards and door trim, so I'd better be doing that rather than having fun. (Isn't this the idea of marriage?) Ironically, this also means I won' get to use my MK during that time, which is what this is all ultimately about... Where's the fairness? [sigh]

For now, though, yes, I have seen NP's "hip hop" video, and am flummoxed why she'd do such a goofy, low-class stunt, unless she and/or her agent were worried that the movie-consuming public thought she was getting too old to be hip anymore, and their desperation to remedy that was sufficiently high.

On the plus side, it's much, much easier to write bad poetry, swear, and use hypnotic quick-cut editing techniques than it is to create, you know, music. This has an equalizing effect by opening the field of entertainment to everyone, including people of little imagination, talent or decency.

So let's hear it for the methodical cultural and spiritual impoverishment of the American people, who've even elected a Condo-Salesman-In-Chief to epitomizes all those values in an appropriately shallow, grasping, intolerant, anti-humanitarian, anti-presidential way. Isn't it great how everything works out?

Hopefully you got some work done. As far as the rest of your comment, I think I'm gonna go watch Lady Gaga videos until my brain liquefies and pours out of every orifice now.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 27 February 2018, 05:51:05
Hopefully you got some work done. As far as the rest of your comment, I think I'm gonna go watch Lady Gaga videos until my brain liquefies and pours out of every orifice now.

I'd join you, but unfortunately I can't furnish any of that "brain" stuff.  :?|

Here's a guy who's asking $250 for a used, otherwise run-of-the-mill Model M 1391401 because, and I'm sure you saw this coming:


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...it was made in a leap year! We all know how that boosts a keeb's value.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 27 February 2018, 07:45:55
...it was made in a leap year! We all know how that boosts a keeb's value.

Found the auction by the price. :)



It was actually made on LEAP DAY. Which is kinda cool after all.


(https://i.imgur.com/uR3R09h.jpg)



The same seller also has a couple industrial M's for sale, at premium prices. Neither is a Lexmark, and one is a square badge (missing badge) model.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 27 February 2018, 20:28:41
Found the auction by the price. :) ... It was actually made on LEAP DAY. Which is kinda cool after all.

Oops, sorry, I'd usually include the link. Here it is (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1988-IBM-Model-M-keyboard-clicky-spring-part-1391401-old-school-LEAP-YEAR/302652706472). Bask in the glory.

Well, it was made on leap day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_29)! That means there was only one day when first-generation Model M production were made on Feb. 29. And keeb collecting is all about "rarity", right? So heck, that does seem like it's worth an extra $150, doesn't it? I'm not going to actually bid on it—in fact, I'm being entirely facetious here—but I did see it as an opportunity to use a bunch of italics.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Aer Fixus on Mon, 05 March 2018, 17:58:48
First: Bulgarian.
Quite interesting to see.
Doubleshots, likely. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/282867813042)


Second: Large logo.
And what a great color scheme.
Dreams of one in hand. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/282867822408)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Tue, 06 March 2018, 16:03:34
What fascinating boards, I'm sure anyone would be happy to explore them. But that's some crackpipe price for sure.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:48:28
Hey, beam springs in good shape are already going for nearly $1K, aren't they? This sort of thing may not be far off.

If only we'd invested in beam springs rather than mutual funds... But does my wife ever listen?? It's hard convincing your spouse that something you can play with is also a great investment. You always seem to have ulterior motives.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:50:38
There could still be a bidding war and the price will reach $10k  :thumb:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 11 March 2018, 23:34:00
Sure, it's NIB (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345), but...


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It's industrious of them, trying to get that much for it... But as we all know, Industrial Model M's must include some vintage grime.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 12 March 2018, 00:32:21
That's the seller who has been trolling us "keyboard kids". The very same seller who posted a $5k beamspring a while back.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 March 2018, 02:35:19
Sure, it's NIB (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345), but...


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It's industrious of them, trying to get that much for it... But as we all know, Industrial Model M's must include some vintage grime.


lol the sticker on the back isn't even straight
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: matt-taco on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:36:33
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253443196732

An amazing omnikey w/blue Alps, yours for just $500.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:41:30
Sure, it's NIB (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345), but...


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It's industrious of them, trying to get that much for it... But as we all know, Industrial Model M's must include some vintage grime.

Just offered $35 for it. Let's see what happens.  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 14:00:44
Hahaha, I just got blocked by that seller since I offered $20 after his initial decline. If I wasted at least 5 minutes of his time, my job here is done.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 15 March 2018, 02:16:15
Hahaha, I just got blocked by that seller since I offered $20 after his initial decline. If I wasted at least 5 minutes of his time, my job here is done.

LOL

I was just thinking, "At least they included 'Make an Offer'..."
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:49:07
Check the space bar. Molten lava maybe?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-for-IBM-3279-Color-Display-Station-Models-2A-2B-3A-3B-/253493361719?hash=item3b0561bc37


“Great collector's project .Please review pictures and description before purchase.”   

Whatever - these prices are so out of control that I can't even really care anymore.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 16 March 2018, 08:36:11
I have been blocked by a few sellers for wasting their time with lowball offers. I don't get it, I can just make a new account and do the same thing.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Fri, 16 March 2018, 09:34:29
I have been blocked by a few sellers for wasting their time with lowball offers. I don't get it, I can just make a new account and do the same thing.

It's still more work and time to do that than for them to just block you. :P

Check the space bar. Molten lava maybe?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-for-IBM-3279-Color-Display-Station-Models-2A-2B-3A-3B-/253493361719?hash=item3b0561bc37


“Great collector's project .Please review pictures and description before purchase.”   

Whatever - these prices are so out of control that I can't even really care anymore.


it's MELTED. It has suffered in a fire and they still want 750? Whaaaaat

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 March 2018, 02:12:43
It's still more work and time to do that than for them to just block you. :P

Check the space bar. Molten lava maybe?

it's MELTED. It has suffered in a fire and they still want 750? Whaaaaat


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uw0AAOSwW5laos9U/s-l1600.jpg)


Yeah, that's a heartbreaker, isn't it?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 March 2018, 02:15:04
How many spacebars actually have a space in them, though? I'd say it's rare, but this one looks more like well-done.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 17 March 2018, 08:43:49
Looks like a soldering iron accident to me.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 18 March 2018, 21:19:35
Many of the mass shooters (and "alt-right" trolls), are predominantly white men of various ages, but leaning young, fueled mainly by a belief in their own superiority and resentment of the sense that the rest of the world doesn't seem to respect it...

Hey, I never thought of that. If I were some drunk, drooling yahoo Trump supporter in a muscle shirt, hanging out the window of my hopped-up pickup (fortunately having just enough of an IQ to drive) and screaming obscenities at anyone who didn't look like me—little realizing that I was mindlessly acting out ancient tribal survival instincts more characteristic of wild animals who hadn't developed the higher brain functions required for things like art, music and poetry—and I didn't get much respect from the general public, I probably would feel some resentment. But that'd be only because I was so clueless about practically everything else, such as how life works.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:39:44
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M/323142784131?hash=item4b3ccf9483:g:kPUAAOSwD8BZbpQx

[attachimg=1]

Hah. Seems like the seller has reduced the price of their useless plastic barrel to only ten dollars wow! I'm glad someone's not inevitably going to be cheated out of a hundred bucks, but it's still pretty skeezy to sell something that is functionally useless and also sorta just a penne noodle of black plastic for 10 bucks. But whatever, I can't decide if a production line reject is worth anything to someone else, maybe it is.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 19 March 2018, 10:19:22
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-IBM-Model-F-reproduction-keyboards-barrel-Kishsaver-clicky-Model-M/323142784131?hash=item4b3ccf9483:g:kPUAAOSwD8BZbpQx

(Attachment Link)

Hah. Seems like the seller has reduced the price of their useless plastic barrel to only ten dollars wow! I'm glad someone's not inevitably going to be cheated out of a hundred bucks, but it's still pretty skeezy to sell something that is functionally useless and also sorta just a penne noodle of black plastic for 10 bucks. But whatever, I can't decide if a production line reject is worth anything to someone else, maybe it is.  :rolleyes:

Maybe someone wants to buy 66 of them and DIY a Kishsaver :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:54:17
Maybe someone wants to buy 66 of them and DIY a Kishsaver :))

Can't even do that!
Quote
Please note that this listing is for the barrel only (the black plastic item in the photo).  It weighs about 1-2 grams total.  The barrel was rejected for being out of spec and will not function with any keyboard.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 20 March 2018, 23:53:06
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/A-Pen-Blessed-by-GOD-himself/263537625242
Too bad it’s no longer available—he must have decided to take up the battle himself again.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:05:12
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/A-Pen-Blessed-by-GOD-himself/263537625242
Too bad it’s no longer available—he must have decided to take up the battle himself again.

I've seen some weird things on eBay, but this takes the cake.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:19:32
If it were a standard one, I could see how someone might consider it historical. But a defective one? Can't say I get it, either.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:44:17
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/A-Pen-Blessed-by-GOD-himself/263537625242
Too bad it’s no longer available—he must have decided to take up the battle himself again.

The price :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:39:35
Check out this *****'n IBM Model M Industrial. It was listed as BIN $1400 but do remember that this one comes in the ultra rare qwerjy layout. Own a piece of hisjory.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-IBM-Gen-0-Model-M-Clickey-Keyboard-1388032/302678911378?hash=item467911a992:g:0SwAAOSwkhNasuXw

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 21 March 2018, 22:05:53
Check out this *****'n IBM Model M Industrial. It was listed as BIN $1400 but do remember that this one comes in the ultra rare qwerjy layout. Own a piece of hisjory.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-IBM-Gen-0-Model-M-Clickey-Keyboard-1388032/302678911378?hash=item467911a992:g:0SwAAOSwkhNasuXw

(Attachment Link)
I mean points for creativity. At least it gave me a laugh :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Aer Fixus on Fri, 23 March 2018, 10:01:43
Now, does it have a Mandolin Crystal?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: klennkellon on Tue, 27 March 2018, 02:03:19
You can call people a ***** but people will still give you $300 for an Industrial M.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:11:49
Check out this *****'n IBM Model M Industrial. It was listed as BIN $1400 but do remember that this one comes in the ultra rare qwerjy layout. Own a piece of hisjory.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-IBM-Gen-0-Model-M-Clickey-Keyboard-1388032/302678911378?hash=item467911a992:g:0SwAAOSwkhNasuXw

(Attachment Link)

LOL—that was a subtle touch.

And OMG, it did fetch a lot:

[attach=1]

But the 1388032 was the very first PC-compatible (non-terminal) M of any kind (even before the venerable 1390131 and 1390120). So it's not just an Industrial; it's the first Industrial.

Hope I used enough italics here, BTW.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:15:14
Vintage Russian former keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RUSSIAN-Clicky-mechanical-keyboard-wery-rare-for-parts/173242998279) sort of, uh, thing, "just" $100-something shipped:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kiEAAOSwGWBavTUC/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tcUAAOSwpzVavTUI/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 April 2018, 09:38:49

But the 1388032 was the very first PC-compatible (non-terminal) M of any kind (even before the venerable 1390131 and 1390120). So it's not just an Industrial; it's the first Industrial.


I was generally ignoring it, but industrial, bar code label, black badge, and lock lights - it really does have it all.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 08:39:07
Vintage Russian former keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RUSSIAN-Clicky-mechanical-keyboard-wery-rare-for-parts/173242998279) sort of, uh, thing, "just" $100-something shipped:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kiEAAOSwGWBavTUC/s-l1600.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tcUAAOSwpzVavTUI/s-l1600.jpg)


Those are IZOT switches. I actually had one of these keyboards, and no, it's not Russian. It's actually a Bulgarian board and the switches are Cherry M9 clones. I ended up tossing the keyboard since it would've been too hard to convert and too heavy to save for another time. I still have the keycaps and switches though.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: AMongoose on Mon, 02 April 2018, 08:54:23
Vintage Russian former keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RUSSIAN-Clicky-mechanical-keyboard-wery-rare-for-parts/173242998279) sort of, uh, thing, "just" $100-something shipped:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kiEAAOSwGWBavTUC/s-l1600.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tcUAAOSwpzVavTUI/s-l1600.jpg)


That keycap profile is pretty cool. If only there were more keys left  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 09:03:33
Vintage Russian former keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RUSSIAN-Clicky-mechanical-keyboard-wery-rare-for-parts/173242998279) sort of, uh, thing, "just" $100-something shipped:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kiEAAOSwGWBavTUC/s-l1600.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tcUAAOSwpzVavTUI/s-l1600.jpg)


That keycap profile is pretty cool. If only there were more keys left  :))

They are cool but unfortunately not compatible with most modern switches. I might make a build with these and my Alps SKCC switches though.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 02 April 2018, 23:54:37
Those are IZOT switches. I actually had one of these keyboards, and no, it's not Russian. It's actually a Bulgarian board and the switches are Cherry M9 clones. I ended up tossing the keyboard since it would've been too hard to convert and too heavy to save for another time. I still have the keycaps and switches though.

Fun to know! And IZOT, that seems like a perfect name.


That keycap profile is pretty cool. If only there were more keys left  :))

Yeah—details, huh?


But the 1388032 was the very first PC-compatible (non-terminal) M of any kind...

I was generally ignoring it, but industrial, bar code label, black badge, and lock lights - it really does have it all.

Courtesy of Deskthority (https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard):


[attach=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 04 April 2018, 13:38:50
I really thought this was a neat keyboard, and expected it to be selling for like $30-40.

http://v.ht/kawasaki-kb
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:29:13
I really thought this was a neat keyboard, and expected it to be selling for like $30-40.

http://v.ht/kawasaki-kb

Looking at the bottom of the PCB they look a lot like Cherry switches, no?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vFwAAOSwFARaxRZo/s-l1600.jpg)

But yeah, that price is hilarious.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:11:47
I'm pretty sure it's Cherry based on the LED windows but no way would I buy at even 1/100 of the price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:43:07
I really thought this was a neat keyboard, and expected it to be selling for like $30-40.

http://v.ht/kawasaki-kb

Well, it does say "Make an Offer".   :)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:39:52
I really thought this was a neat keyboard, and expected it to be selling for like $30-40.

http://v.ht/kawasaki-kb

Well, it does say "Make an Offer".   :)

Made an offer of 30 =P
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 11 April 2018, 00:46:01
I really thought this was a neat keyboard, and expected it to be selling for like $30-40.

http://v.ht/kawasaki-kb

Well, it does say "Make an Offer".   :)

Made an offer of 30 =P

Hey, I'd offer at least $40. But I'd include a comment like, "You DO know this is worth only $40, don't you?"
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Tue, 17 April 2018, 10:53:06
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-IBM-Type-F-Model-F122-APL-Keyboard/152985564442?hash=item239ea6751a:g:HK0AAOSwV21a1Urm
[attachimg=1]

It's a model F122. The case top has been swapped out for a M122 which is less brittle. It has APL keys. A THOUSAND DOLLARS.  :confused:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 19 April 2018, 02:52:58
Well, you are sort of getting two keebs in one.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 21 April 2018, 03:11:31
"Hey, everybody, I'm selling this Chicony KB-5161 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chincony-E8H5IKKB-5161-Vintage-Clicky-Mechanical-AT-XT-5-Pin-DIn-Wried-Keyboard/123089010362) with White Alps...


[attach=1]


"How I know it has White Alps? Because I pried off one of the keys with a screwdriver, and included this photo of it in the listing..."


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/J7UAAOSwGRZa2YWa/s-l1600.jpg)


(Oh well! LOL)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 21 April 2018, 08:55:15
Ouch! An excellent example of why non-enthusiasts are reluctant to pull key caps. Price of this board probably went down 30% or more.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Sat, 21 April 2018, 12:17:22
Ouch indeed! Nothing a steady hand, some fine pliers, and a replacement cap can't solve
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 09:08:40
Good luck finding a replacement key, especially for vintage Alps...
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 23 April 2018, 20:49:29
Yeah, too bad. At least they were up-front about it. I just thought it sadly ironic that they used it to show the switch type.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:14:55

Price of this board probably went down 30% or more.


I was probably wrong. More like 80%
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Tue, 24 April 2018, 09:30:33
Because of one broken cap? D: vintage alps be crazy
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 12:57:01
Unfortunately Alps keysets are pretty hard to come by. In general, you either need to harvest another Alps keyboard, or find one of the rare Alps slider over rubber dome varieties with the same layout.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:13:20

Because of one broken cap?

I figure that a significant number of people would balk at soldering in a new switch (trivial to others) but finding a properly matching double-shot cap is going to be well-nigh impossible, rendering a "complete set's" value crippled, so that leaves the thing as little more than a switch donor board.
Title: Starchy Cherry
Post by: ander on Tue, 01 May 2018, 03:15:17
Cherry MX 11900 Black USB QWERTY Wired Keyboard & Touchpad (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MX-11900-Black-USB-QWERTY-Wired-Keyboard-Touchpad-FAST-FREE-SHIPPING/192411588715)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6ZIAAOSws5pZKJpC/s-l1600.jpg)


“In excellent working condition... with light to moderate wear including some starches.”

This no doubt explains the board's exceptional rigidity.
Title: Re: Starchy Cherry
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 01 May 2018, 03:34:23
Cherry MX 11900 Black USB QWERTY Wired Keyboard & Touchpad (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MX-11900-Black-USB-QWERTY-Wired-Keyboard-Touchpad-FAST-FREE-SHIPPING/192411588715)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6ZIAAOSws5pZKJpC/s-l1600.jpg)



“In excellent working condition... with light to moderate wear including some starches.”

This no doubt explains the board's exceptional rigidity.
Keycaps are doubleshot though.
Title: Re: Starchy Cherry
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 06:37:06
Keycaps are doubleshot though.

1. Look at the thread you are in.
2. He is making a joke about starches, like starchy foods or starch you use to iron your clothes.
Title: Re: Starchy Cherry
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:27:31
2. He is making a joke about starches, like starchy foods or starch you use to iron your clothes.
Totally missed that.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 03 May 2018, 06:44:06
I love hanging out with super-literal types... You guys never fail to cheer me up.  :?)
Title: Model F-122, just $700 + shipping (from Taiwan)
Post by: ander on Thu, 24 May 2018, 00:06:21
These are swell classic keebs—but isn't stuff generally supposed to be cheaper (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-F-6110668-Keyboard-RARE/153033817051) in Asia?


[attach=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 01:41:13
Not on eBay!
Title: Re: Model F-122, just $700 + shipping (from Taiwan)
Post by: mogo on Thu, 24 May 2018, 13:12:50
These are swell classic keebs—but isn't stuff generally supposed to be cheaper (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-F-6110668-Keyboard-RARE/153033817051) in Asia?


(Attachment Link)

I saw that this morning. I know it's a Model F, but good gravy what the ****  :confused:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 02 June 2018, 03:20:49
The seller cleaned it, and it's rusty only around some of the switches—so hey, may it is worth that much (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Old-Logo-Dell-AT101-GYI3PVAT101-ALPS-SKCM-Salmon-Mechanical-Keyboard/113021942685).


[attach=1]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sun, 10 June 2018, 01:09:55
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-IBM-Personal-Computer-AT-Keyboard-Model-F-Clicky-84-Key-270091696/292595853242

Takes balls to list an F AT for $375.  Especially one that hasn't been cleaned up in the least.   Even odder he has a bid.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 10 June 2018, 08:57:22
F ATs have been tragically under-rated for a very long time, and, despite their seemingly "mainstream" provenance, they don't actually turn up for sale very often.

My guess is that there are an order of magnitude less of them than XTs, and that they are worth at least triple the price of an XT.

Also, this one seems to be clean, complete, and tested good.
 
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: E TwentyNine on Tue, 12 June 2018, 23:10:07
Says it's tested but it's a LONG way from clean.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 13 June 2018, 08:17:18
Ha Ha.

"Clean" as in arriving from ebay is a lot different from "clean" as sitting on my desk.

As ebay vintage keyboards go, I would say that one is average or better for cleanliness. If I was buying it, I would immediately break it down into its individual parts and rebuild it, so personally I pretty much ignore ordinary dirt.

When I sell a keyboard, I make sure to specify whether it is "as-is" or "lightly cleaned" or "thoroughly cleaned inside and out"
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 19 June 2018, 17:56:06
F ATs have been tragically under-rated for a very long time... My guess is that there are an order of magnitude less of them than XTs...

I utterly agree with you, Fo. And perhaps ATs will reach these prices before long.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 22 June 2018, 13:35:55
And for today's Not-So-Great-Finds:
https://ebay.to/2MQfTH5
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Fri, 22 June 2018, 14:50:50
$1200? For scissor switches? Or... butterfly switches? Good golly, miss molly!  :eek:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 22 June 2018, 18:27:37
Ha ha. I agree—Great Find not, this is.
Title: Das 4, Salvador Dali designed numpad
Post by: ander on Thu, 02 August 2018, 03:11:26
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch (https://www.ebay.com/itm/DasKeyboard-4-Professional-Mechanical-Keyboard-Clicky-MX-Blue-Switch/132715634907)

Quote from: Seller
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch... Works great!  Has some warped keys on keypad (still works though)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/09YAAOSwH55bVh~d/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H58AAOSwSP9bVh~o/s-l1600.jpg)


(Be sure to click/zoom on that 2nd photo)

BIN $61.74 + 15.00 US shipping. Don't fight over it, now.
Title: Re: Das 4, Salvador Dali designed numpad
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Thu, 02 August 2018, 03:16:32
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch (https://www.ebay.com/itm/DasKeyboard-4-Professional-Mechanical-Keyboard-Clicky-MX-Blue-Switch/132715634907)

Quote from: Seller
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch... Works great!  Has some warped keys on keypad (still works though)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/09YAAOSwH55bVh~d/s-l1600.jpg)



Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H58AAOSwSP9bVh~o/s-l1600.jpg)



(Be sure to click/zoom on that 2nd photo)

BIN $61.74 + 15.00 US shipping. Don't fight over it, now.

Jesus, did he leave it in the oven!?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Thu, 02 August 2018, 08:37:04
Given that the warping is consistent and severe on one side of the board, I'd say this person had a small space heater on their desk. Good thing replacement caps are simple to source, because those need to go!

edit: I see it's really bad on the left side too. Gotta toast it evenly on both sides, I guess!
Title: Re: Das 4, Salvador Dali designed numpad
Post by: JianYang on Thu, 02 August 2018, 10:04:17
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch (https://www.ebay.com/itm/DasKeyboard-4-Professional-Mechanical-Keyboard-Clicky-MX-Blue-Switch/132715634907)

Quote from: Seller
DasKeyboard 4 Professional Mechanical Keyboard, Clicky MX Blue Switch... Works great!  Has some warped keys on keypad (still works though)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/09YAAOSwH55bVh~d/s-l1600.jpg)



Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H58AAOSwSP9bVh~o/s-l1600.jpg)



(Be sure to click/zoom on that 2nd photo)

BIN $61.74 + 15.00 US shipping. Don't fight over it, now.

The sculpting of those keycaps are a bit too extreme for my liking.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 08 August 2018, 04:40:37
Speaking about prices: A German eBayer sells an IBM Model whatever from 1985 "like Model M/F" (huh?).

Quote
Used IBM buckling spring keyboard, built 10-10-1985, in very good condition. It was unused for most of its life, protected by the included plastic cover. There are just a couple of small marks and scratches on the case and the cover is discoloured. The feet extend (see picture). Made in United Kingdom (Greenock, Scotland). German layout. I am unable to test this superb buckling spring keyboard but an adapter is available. No guarantee is offered, and no returns accepted.

EUR 1.500,00

Anyone interested?  :))

https://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-Keyboard-Tastatur-1386875-1985-deutsch-German-5085-3290-wie-Model-M-Model-F/332737457925
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Wed, 08 August 2018, 08:46:10
What the hell does this seller think these are made of, unobtanium and handjobs?

And it ain't even a model F! Great moogly googly!  :eek:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 08 August 2018, 10:38:09
Those must be some very good handjobs.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 10 August 2018, 03:49:10
Given that the warping is consistent and severe on one side of the board, I'd say this person had a small space heater on their desk...

Someone entered way too many numbers on that keypad. Or maybe it belonged to Salvador Dali.


(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/18500/Dali-Working-on-the-Computer--18744.jpg)


Those must be some very good handjobs.

Please move this conversation to the Handjobs thread.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: method_ on Thu, 16 August 2018, 04:01:24
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-IBM-Type-F-Model-F122-APL-Keyboard/152985564442?hash=item239ea6751a:g:HK0AAOSwV21a1Urm
(Attachment Link)

It's a model F122. The case top has been swapped out for a M122 which is less brittle. It has APL keys. A THOUSAND DOLLARS.  :confused:

Should be 10 000.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ag36 on Fri, 24 August 2018, 10:28:40
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-black/323406092173?

Ruined Model M, quite hard to think why botch it like that.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:03:44
And starting bid is $85??? You can buy a brand new Unicomp (with actual black case) for basically the same price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 24 August 2018, 12:20:30
"can remove pain with nail polish remover"

Yeah, that's the ticket.

A couple of years ago there was a similar one that was far worse.

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Tue, 28 August 2018, 12:36:59
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-beamspring-keyboard-model-3278-1977-English-keys-version/153155209130?hash=item23a8c307aa:g:afEAAOSwrcRbbjYN
[attachimg=1]

Oh neat a beamspr-

[attachimg=2]

(https://media.giphy.com/media/CkyV1ZWhU3oGI/giphy.gif)

[attachimg=3]

Oh good, yes, you've clearly justified the price of this thing with extensive research and rationale.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 August 2018, 17:13:30

you've clearly justified the price of this thing with extensive research and rationale.

To be fair, these things are hardly plug-and-play, and Orihalcon's cables won't help, either.
 
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Bass on Wed, 29 August 2018, 00:46:39
Oh, I am pretty sure that particular beamspring used to belong to me actually. I am fairly certain based on the location of the seller in that listing as well as the pictures matching up with the ones I sent him prior to trading it to him. He did inform me that he was planning on selling it on ebay shortly afterwards, but I was expecting the list price to be half that at most maybe. Not that it matters because I am pretty much certain it won't sell at this price anyway given the much rarer or better condition beamsprings currently listed at lower prices.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ag36 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 06:06:33
I'd happily pay $1100 for it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Meowsaur on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:21:35
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-black/323406092173?

Ruined Model M, quite hard to think why botch it like that.

Basically this:

(https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2014/12/6.-Ecce-Homo.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ag36 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:33:44
Or this.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 01 September 2018, 04:52:11
So, there's just one thing I'm not clear on here:

IBM Model M Mechanical Clicky PS2 Keyboard 1994 Model Number 1397599 Lexmark USA (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Mechanical-Clicky-PS2-Keyboard-1994-Model-Number-1397599-Lexmark-USA/113229033990)

BIN $500 + 19.95 US shipping


[attach=1]


[attach=2]


[attach=3]


Are grimy Model M 1397599s actually worth this much now? Or is it the novelty DAMN IT key that sends the price zooming? Some of these custom keys can be pretty pricey.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ag36 on Sat, 01 September 2018, 19:46:58
Seeing the glue under it, I am pretty sure that key won't work.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sat, 01 September 2018, 20:45:28
Seeing the glue under it, I am pretty sure that key won't work.

It's not even that it's busted. There straight up isn't even a switch there  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ag36 on Sun, 02 September 2018, 05:21:03
Also doesn't seem to be a buckling spring keycap :blank:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 05 September 2018, 17:07:05
Seeing the glue under it, I am pretty sure that key won't work.

It's not even that it's busted. There straight up isn't even a switch there  :))

Also doesn't seem to be a buckling spring keycap :blank:

But aren't custom "artisan" keys like these just for looks anyway? You don't actually type on them, do you? That'd lower the value.
Title: Less-Than-Great Find
Post by: ander on Sun, 09 September 2018, 01:33:13

[attach=1]


NIB Industrial Model M (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345)—just $3,073!! Plus shipping!

Never mind that it's p/n 1394946, the most common Industrial M... It's NIB. Thus there's no limit on its value—it could be worth anything! Don't believe me? Just ask this seller!  :?O
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Bass on Sun, 09 September 2018, 23:02:03
I heard that seller literally posts these listings just to trigger people like us :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 10 September 2018, 03:11:00
It works!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Bass on Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:04:32
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Old-Logo-Dell-AT101-GYI3PVAT101-ALPS-SKCM-Salmon-Mechanical-Keyboard/113021942685

SKCM Salmon Alps AT101. Even if this was a rare variant, still seems way overpriced for what it is at nearly $700 shipped.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 13 September 2018, 04:04:14
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Old-Logo-Dell-AT101-GYI3PVAT101-ALPS-SKCM-Salmon-Mechanical-Keyboard/113021942685... SKCM Salmon Alps AT101. Even if this was a rare variant, still seems way overpriced for what it is at nearly $700 shipped.

LOL! Lunacy!
Title: $199 IBM rubby domey
Post by: ander on Thu, 13 September 2018, 04:13:11
Here's someone (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-KEYBOARD-MODEL-A-FRU-06H5305-08H4601-PS-2-Heavy-Tactile-clean-dome-clicky/202229640689) who wants $199 (OBO) for a rubber-dome IBM Model A (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75873.0):


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Quote from: Someone who wants $199 (OBO) for a rubber-dome IBM Model A
USED but in good condition. WORKING!
("offers" are enabled but we may not take any offers, this is a rare keyboard)

Ooh, and the invitation to "Make an Offer" may just be a tease... How tantalizingly coquettish.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 13 September 2018, 07:08:20

the invitation to "Make an Offer" may just be a tease


"Make Offer" is enabled by default and is surprisingly hard to turn off. Simply ticking the box usually doesn't take until you do it a dozen times or more. Sometimes you have to click away and then come back to it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:43:02
"Make Offer" is enabled by default and is surprisingly hard to turn off. Simply ticking the box usually doesn't take until you do it a dozen times or more. Sometimes you have to click away and then come back to it.

And in this case, it's particularly annoying because the owners of this super rare keeb are just toying with the notion of taking offers, and had to actually mention that in their text. Maybe they didn't want to say "We're not really considering offers, but we couldn't figure out how to turn off the 'Make an Offer' feature." Naturally, that would've undercut the shrewd, high-tech-savvy image they worked so hard to cultivate.
Title: Ridiculously pricey mail-sorter thing
Post by: ander on Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:03:15
I know this isn't a keyboard (it's good to do a little senility check like that every now and then), but it was so ridiculously priced, I had to share it with you:

60 Pocket Mail Sorter with Tall Riser (https://www.wayfair.com/commercial/pdp/charnstrom-60-pocket-mail-sorter-with-tall-riser-cnsm1319.html)


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$2,099.99
Take 18 months to pay! ... Only 6 Left in Stock. Buy Soon!


I mean, how much should you have to pay to sort mail? Presumably you're going to do the sorting too, or have to hire someone to do it—so you have to pay for the mail-sorting thing and the sorting person? The expenses never end!

What's more, this item, like all items on Wayfair.com, is shipped directly from the Chinese manufacturer, where stuff costs, like, 1/10th as much to make because people work for a pittance and any attempts at labor organization or negotiation are mercilessly squashed. Chinese merchants must have wet dreams thinking of the obliviously fast-spending Westerners sending them Western-size piles of dough—whether it's for mail sorters, keyboards, or any of the other super-cheap-to-produce products over there. I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Tue, 18 September 2018, 13:35:04
There's only one left! Only $965! FREE shipping!

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"Tactile non-mechanical keys that are also quiet"


https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Best-Keyboard-In-The-World-Keytronic-LT-Classic-w-AT-PS-2-adapter-quiet/130509348454
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Tue, 18 September 2018, 14:37:34
There's only one left! Only $965! FREE shipping!

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"Tactile non-mechanical keys that are also quiet"


https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Best-Keyboard-In-The-World-Keytronic-LT-Classic-w-AT-PS-2-adapter-quiet/130509348454

One sold and one remaining. :eek:

Also "We do not misrepresent the import value of items."...sure.

I supposed the price really is a pittance for the best keyboard in the entire world.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fer.real on Fri, 21 September 2018, 10:43:16
Japanese English Black Bilingual USB Computer (Rubber Dome) Keyboard: US $3,334.95 :eek:
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-English-Black-Bilingual-USB-Computer-Keyboard/400311799645 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-English-Black-Bilingual-USB-Computer-Keyboard/400311799645)


I will be saving my pennies for this one.  Or maybe I'll just buy it here for $25.  https://m.bonanza.com/items/like/229313719/japanese-english-usb-wired-black-computer-keyboard-black-background-with-whi- (https://m.bonanza.com/items/like/229313719/japanese-english-usb-wired-black-computer-keyboard-black-background-with-whi-)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Sat, 22 September 2018, 11:54:19
for three and a half grand, this keyboard had better be sentient and actually bilingual. Or maybe I can type in English, and, because it's bilingual, translates me into perfect Japanese.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 22 September 2018, 19:59:09
There's only one left! Only $965! FREE shipping!

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"Tactile non-mechanical keys that are also quiet"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Best-Keyboard-In-The-World-Keytronic-LT-Classic-w-AT-PS-2-adapter-quiet/130509348454

$965 for a Key Tronic rubby-dome... That's one of the most bodacious NSGF's I've seen. Thanks for spotting it!

But wait a second:

"BRAND NEW - STILL IN THE ORIGINAL SHRINKWRAP." 

Oh, well, that changes everything. :p
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Sun, 23 September 2018, 10:41:36
German IBM 3278 Beamer - only $5,880.25! + shipping

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3270-3278-Display-Station-Beamspring-Keyboard-Tastatur-deutsch-German/332737514101?hash=item4d78b38a75:g:YV8AAOSwF2xbXf5F
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 23 September 2018, 18:08:02
German IBM 3278 Beamer - only $5,880.25! + shipping

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3270-3278-Display-Station-Beamspring-Keyboard-Tastatur-deutsch-German/332737514101?hash=item4d78b38a75:g:YV8AAOSwF2xbXf5F

I hate to say it, but that's unusual enough that I could actually see someone paying that much for it. They'd be one of those keeb-wacky rich kids whose parents gave them a Ferrari when they got their first learner's permit. But still.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Bass on Mon, 24 September 2018, 00:09:13
That beamspring is actually a 3276 and the seller has had it listed at that price for a little while. They are a bit rarer than your standard 3278 but I highly doubt it's worth anywhere near what the seller is asking for. There was a Cyrillic 3278 that sold for around $2k and a 3278 A2 w/ colored keycaps for $2.8k, both much rarer and took a while to sell at those prices.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 24 September 2018, 03:57:07
That beamspring is actually a 3276 and the seller has had it listed at that price for a little while. They are a bit rarer than your standard 3278 but I highly doubt it's worth anywhere near what the seller is asking for. There was a Cyrillic 3278 that sold for around $2k and a 3278 A2 w/ colored keycaps for $2.8k, both much rarer and took a while to sell at those prices.

I agree, the seller's being highly optimistic. But it's not like asking $900 for a Key Tronic. If someone who collects beam springs wants one of these, and they have the dough, and they don't want to wait another six months for another one to appear, its "value" may be moot.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 26 September 2018, 15:21:40
Slightly off topic but couldn't not post this having seen it - £280 for a cardboard box (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nice-box-for-headphone-vintage-style/253835491354?hash=item3b19c6381a:g:mLcAAOSwj~RbhHbI) :confused:
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 26 September 2018, 15:25:28
Postage:
May not post to Germany 
 :(
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 26 September 2018, 15:29:35
Slightly off topic but couldn't not post this having seen it - £280 for a cardboard box (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nice-box-for-headphone-vintage-style/253835491354?hash=item3b19c6381a:g:mLcAAOSwj~RbhHbI) :confused:

but that is a very nice brown box

vintage style
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 26 September 2018, 23:14:00
Slightly off topic but couldn't not post this having seen it - £280 for a cardboard box (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nice-box-for-headphone-vintage-style/253835491354?hash=item3b19c6381a:g:mLcAAOSwj~RbhHbI) :confused:

It's not off-topic... Great and Not-So-Great Finds don't have to be keyboards.

Anyway, LOL. Why are they referring to it as a "headphone" box, I wonder? Wacky.

Don't miss the very nice piece of metal (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/piece-of-metal-very-expensive-and-well-built/253835521869) they've listed for just £9.99:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-1IAAOSwPrlbhHuN/s-l1600.jpg)


Imagine how many things that can be used for. And when you weren't using it, you could keep it in the cardboard box.
Title: Rare clicky Model M!
Post by: ander on Sun, 30 September 2018, 05:25:59
Woo, look at this:

Rare 1987 IBM Clicky Keyboard Model M (1391401) 20APR87 F2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1987-IBM-Clicky-Keyboard-Model-M-1391401-20APR87-F2-Excellent-Condition/253842172445)


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It's a rare clicky Model M—and only $199 + shipping!

Till recently, we were lead to believe that the iconically clicky, buckling-spring M's were much more common than the relatively few RD variants. But no. For some incomprehensible reason, virtually every Model M that turns up these days turns out to be un-clicky—even those with erstwhile classically-clicky p/n's like 1390401. Indeed, if you can't find a listing like this one that specifically mentions it's a clicky M, you never know what the heck you're getting.

How did we reach this desperate, disorienting point of clickiness insecurity? Has the world lost its sense of smell? How many fingers am I holding up? Should I wear brown shoes with a blue suit? As you can see, I have many questions.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 30 September 2018, 16:57:34
It must be extremely confusing for newbies reading rants about how the earliest Model Ms are great and that after about 1987 they became inferior, and that brand new Unicomps with modern colors and native USB are garbage, yet they all seem to sell in a relatively similar and narrow price band.

Why wouldn't an early M in good condition be worth twice the selling price of a new Unicomp, they might ask?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 01 October 2018, 00:01:14
It must be extremely confusing for newbies reading rants about how the earliest Model Ms are great and that after about 1987 they became inferior, and that brand new Unicomps with modern colors and native USB are garbage, yet they all seem to sell in a relatively similar and narrow price band...

The only rational solution is to have one of each, right? Then you don't have to guess or take other peeps's words for it.

Why wouldn't an early M in good condition be worth twice the selling price of a new Unicomp, they might ask?

Because the Unicomp:

(1.) Is NIB (vintage M's clean up great, but it's not quite the same, and some peeps are picky about that)
(2.) Is black (for those who find "pearl" too dated)
(3.) Is USB-ready
(4.) Is warrantied
(5.) Has a creaky case (well, somebody must consider that a feature)
(6.) Is the last keeb of any kind still made in the USA, by nice people running a small, dedicated business out of its gloriously original location, who couldn't stand to see the computer industry's clickiest-clackiest keyboard production line shut down forever (can ya blame 'em?) and who've pulled off the miracle of producing genuine buckling-spring keebs, domestically, for less than most imported MKs with comparatively wimpy switches.
(7.) Would no doubt be endorsed by Natalie Portman, if she knew about them. (Someone should tell her.)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Mon, 01 October 2018, 07:31:58
Yes, someone let Natalie know. I'm sure she would even do a commercial for Unicomp. It would be a smashing success. They could even reinvest any additional revenue in tooling for current and future products such as an SSK Model M  ;D
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 03 October 2018, 02:45:28
Yes, someone let Natalie know. I'm sure she would even do a commercial for Unicomp. It would be a smashing success. They could even reinvest any additional revenue in tooling for current and future products such as an SSK Model M  ;D

 :eek:
Title: Free grime!
Post by: ander on Thu, 11 October 2018, 05:24:44
You don't see bargains like this very often:

IBM clicky PS/2 keyboard 1391401 Model M 1988 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-clicky-PS-2-keyboard-1391401-Model-M-1988/163298832871)


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Quote from: eBay seller
I tested the keyboard this last week on my office computer, and all keys function as designed. It felt great to be typing again on this classic keyboard...

I will vacuum the keyboard and wipe it down, but I don't want to take all the keys off to wash them individually... You can see this was well used and the keys are dirty. I have reduced the starting price accordingly.

Can you, too, see this person carrying this filthy board into an office, connecting it to a PC, and typing on it to be sure it works?

I'm glad it "felt great" to them. Personally, I would've been too busy going "Ew! Ick!" to enjoy it much, not to mention wondering what my colleagues were going to say about me at lunch.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 11 October 2018, 16:36:28
You don't see bargains like this very often:

IBM clicky PS/2 keyboard 1391401 Model M 1988 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-clicky-PS-2-keyboard-1391401-Model-M-1988/163298832871)


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Quote from: eBay seller
I tested the keyboard this last week on my office computer, and all keys function as designed. It felt great to be typing again on this classic keyboard...

I will vacuum the keyboard and wipe it down, but I don't want to take all the keys off to wash them individually... You can see this was well used and the keys are dirty. I have reduced the starting price accordingly.

Can you, too, see this person carrying this filthy board into an office, connecting it to a PC, and typing on it to be sure it works?

I'm glad it "felt great" to them. Personally, I would've been too busy going "Ew! Ick!" to enjoy it much, not to mention wondering what my colleagues were going to say about me at lunch.

Could be a home office ...
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 13 October 2018, 02:52:25
Could be a home office ...

Oh, yeah, right. I hope so, anyway. Or maybe he meant the office next to the oil rig he apparently works on.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 15 October 2018, 21:05:48
USB flavored! It's my favorite!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Macintosh-Flavored-USB-Keyboard-works-w-iMac-iBook-G3-G4-towers-Vintage-Lime/183487914748

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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 16 October 2018, 19:23:21
USB flavored! It's my favorite!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Macintosh-Flavored-USB-Keyboard-works-w-iMac-iBook-G3-G4-towers-Vintage-Lime/183487914748

Flavored? So you actually lick the thing? Good thing it's NIB, huh?
Title: Focus FK-2000, just $300!
Post by: ander on Tue, 16 October 2018, 20:21:49
VINTAGE Focus FK-2000 Plus Mechanical Keyboard TESTED ULTRA RARE!! (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Focus-FK-2000-Plus-Mechanical-Keyboard-TESTED-ULTRA-RARE/263971063535)


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Never mind that it's not even NIB, that it has clone switches (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Focus_FK-2000_Plus), and that they're usually just $50–60... It's ULTRA RARE!!
Title: IBM keyboard clip art – just $63.25!
Post by: ander on Thu, 25 October 2018, 15:19:04
IBM V102 P/N 10L2000, FRU05K7078, ID1MXJS337738, Keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-V102-P-N-10L2000-FRU05K7078-ID1MXJS337738-Keyboard/113329006227)


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Title: Super-rare upside down Unicomp M-122!!
Post by: ander on Tue, 30 October 2018, 03:02:17
Every now and then, someone presses the wrong button and something gets made upside-down:


(https://danwoog.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/inverted-jennie.jpg)


(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/273441342461_/Upside-Down-Busch-Bavarian-Error-Beer-Can.jpg)


(https://images.sidelineswap.com/production/001/334/853/49244e091e7455a8_small.jpeg)


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/ee/f3/90eef31e4f8bb2348862c07c84451ffc.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9EwAAMXQUmFSml6N/s-l1600.jpg)


It happens with keyboards too! Behold, this ultra-rare upside-down Unicomp OEM M-122:

VINTAGE IO UNICOMP MODEL M BLACK KEYBOARD (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IO-UNICOMP-MODEL-M-BLACK-KEYBOARD/332858809489)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/O34AAOSwypZb14of/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aS8AAOSwfgRb14oi/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WhYAAOSwYUZb14ob/s-l1600.jpg)


If you've always wanted an upside-down keeb but never thought you could afford such a rarity, here's your chance—at a BIN price of just $29.95 + shipping! Incredible deal!!

[Note: The keeb isn't actually upside-down; the seller just posted their photos that way. If you neglect to read this part and rush ahead and buy this thing and are disappointed when it arrives entirely normal, don't blame me.]
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Tue, 30 October 2018, 03:03:36
Hilarious.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:58:55
Come to Australia.

All our keyboards are upside down!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:11:41
Come to Australia... All our keyboards are upside down!

I understand it takes no effort to drink beer, either—you just open it and let it flow into your mouth. Now that's living.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 01 November 2018, 18:50:49
Come to Australia.

All our keyboards are upside down!

I knew it! That's so cool!
I want to come visit but does it really take a week to get used to all the blood rushing to your head?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 02 November 2018, 20:13:10
Come to Australia... All our keyboards are upside down!

¿sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ʞooן ʇ,uop sʇsod ɹnoʎ ǝɯoɔ ʍoɥ 'ǝnɹʇ s,ʇɐɥʇ ɟı—ǝʇnuıɯ ɐ ʇıɐʍ ʇnq˙˙˙
Title: Model M 1390410, just $1650!
Post by: ander on Sun, 04 November 2018, 02:43:56

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(Auction page here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1391401-Clicky-keyboard-Date-1990-08-24-BIG-5-PIN-RARE/123467788285)) So, is it, like, filled with cocaine or something?

Oh, and it's not being shipped—you have to pick it up in Hoofddorp, Netherlands (which seems like a pleasant enough place (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofddorp), but still).
Title: Re: Model M 1390410, just $1650!
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sun, 04 November 2018, 20:03:17

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(Auction page here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1391401-Clicky-keyboard-Date-1990-08-24-BIG-5-PIN-RARE/123467788285)) So, is it, like, filled with cocaine or something?

Oh, and it's not being shipped—you have to pick it up in Hoofddorp, Netherlands (which seems like a pleasant enough place (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofddorp), but still).


But don't you see? It says RARE in all caps! That totally makes it worth the extra 1600 dollars.
Title: Re: Model M 1390410, just $1650!
Post by: ander on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:33:18
But don't you see? It says RARE in all caps! That totally makes it worth the extra 1600 dollars.

Rare also means "recurring at long intervals". So I'm guessing it means someone goofy enough to buy something like this comes along only once a year or so.
Title: "No keys missing", just caps!
Post by: ander on Mon, 05 November 2018, 21:51:47
Here's (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-LexMark-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-No-Keys-Missing-Tested/132844724692) an interesting thing:


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/80wAAOSwDP1b35KA/s-l1600.jpg)


Indeed—with two-piece keys, both the cap and stem would have to be absent for a key to be considered "missing". This seller clearly knows their stuff, keeb-wise!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 05 November 2018, 22:03:00
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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 05 November 2018, 22:04:50
Here's (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unicomp-Model-M-UNI0P4A-104-key-USB-Buckling-Spring-Clicky-Mechanical-Keyboard/264020974960?epid=3021279636) something mysterious—someone selling a Unicomp Ultra Classic who says:


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What is it, anyway, about rearranging furniture that makes people want to sell their clicky keebs?

I like my keebs so much, I intentionally avoid rearranging my furniture so I won't feel compelled to sell them. Still, why does it happen at all?

Rod Serling will now step out from behind the drapes and explain.


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(Anyone who doesn't get that hasn't watched enough old TV shows.)
Title: Bargain M2
Post by: ander on Thu, 08 November 2018, 15:50:44
And here's (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-M2-Clicky-Key-Terminal-Mechanical-Keyboard/292807345487) an interesting deal:


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0-MAAOSw4Vpb4v47/s-l1600.jpg)


• Seriously grimy (seller couldn't be bothered to wipe it down—zoom in at your own risk)

• Cord wrapped around keeb (always attractive)

• It's an M2 (crappiest M ever)

• Price about 4x beyond realistic

Otherwise, quite a bargain!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sat, 10 November 2018, 19:21:15
I always love this move:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-vintage-computer-keyboard-Maxi-Switch-Co-630015-02-wooden-frame-Apple-/264003756334?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137

How about a few dollars more:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxi-Switch-1979-Wooden-Keyboard-like-Apple-inc-Line-Feed-Here-is-Rub-out-keys/382624062427?hash=item59162bdbdb:g:lDgAAOSwDDRb5Je2:sc:UPSGround!37803!US!-1:rk:2:pf:0

I marked out the sellers name:

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To be fair, why not give it a try - I mean maybe I'm just jealous I didn't think of it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 November 2018, 10:46:31

To be fair, why not give it a try


Most of my buy-low-sell-high ebay schemes have ended up in a lot of time and effort for little money, after fees, etc, but if there were a couple of hundred dollars to be made it would be different.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:49:38
Get on Yahoo for only $200?!!  Sounds like a bargain to me ;)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yahoo-Direct-Access-Internet-Keyboard-Vintage-1999-New-In-Original-Box/112651603755?hash=item1a3a8f0f2b

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:57:37
iNtErNeT kEyBoArD
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 15 November 2018, 03:59:08
I always love this move:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-vintage-computer-keyboard-Maxi-Switch-Co-630015-02-wooden-frame-Apple-/264003756334?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137

How about a few dollars more:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxi-Switch-1979-Wooden-Keyboard-like-Apple-inc-Line-Feed-Here-is-Rub-out-keys/382624062427?hash=item59162bdbdb:g:lDgAAOSwDDRb5Je2:sc:UPSGround!37803!US!-1:rk:2:pf:0

...To be fair, why not give it a try - I mean maybe I'm just jealous I didn't think of it.

Brilliant! Find an old junk keeb with sufficiently pre-Model-M keys, put it in a wood case, and offer it as a sacred relic from the Garage of Jobs and Wozniak!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 15 November 2018, 18:31:54
Welcome to Stamford, Connecticut. Now, the residents of Stamford always thought that their town was a nice place - a quiet place. But then one day a keyboard arrived. Not just any keyboard. It was a keyboard with a bad "READ" key. A keyboard worth $532.00 plus $29.00 shipping.

Submitted for your approval:

CHYRON HEGO KEYBOARD WITH BAD "READ" KEY MODEL CHYRON KYBD REV. K

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHYRON-HEGO-KEYBOARD-WITH-BAD-READ-KEY-MODEL-CHYRON-KYBD-REV-K/232999003918?hash=item363fd2a70e:g:otgAAOSwFzZb2B3p:rk:1:pf:0

"This Is An Outstanding Value."

... but only in the Twilight Zone.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 23 November 2018, 04:31:00
Heh, they've relisted it for $100 less (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CHYRON-HEGO-KEYBOARD-WITH-BAD-READ-KEY-MODEL-CHYRON-KYBD-REV-K/332890864977). Well, can't blame 'em for fishing.

It looks like a Chyron Duet (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Chyron_Duet), probably with Cherry MX Clears. Quite a fun design:


(https://deskthority.net/w/images/f/f1/Chyron_Duet_keyboard_side.jpg)


Secret labs with staffs of nubile jumpsuited assistants come to mind. If it weren't so much, I'd get it just for that.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 23 November 2018, 04:47:29
Sigh... Greed seems to have no bounds:

Leading Edge DC-2014 Blue Alps Mechanical Keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leading-Edge-DC-2014-Blue-Alps-Mechanical-Keyboard/113382786049)


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Sure, it's Alps Blues, and it's NIB, or like-new, or very lightly used (though the seller stops short of actually calling it any of those).

$799 for an 83-key board—that's darn near $10 per key. Prithee, givest thou me a break.

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: invariance on Fri, 23 November 2018, 05:31:00
Talk about optimism, waiting for a sucker with more money than sense to come along.


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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Fri, 23 November 2018, 05:36:15


$799 for an 83-key board—that's darn near $10 per key. Prithee, givest thou me a break.

True - I mean, Beamsprings are much more expensive, but they have 88 keys.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: invariance on Fri, 23 November 2018, 05:39:24
Then again, if I had the money I might be more of a sucker


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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sat, 24 November 2018, 21:21:32

Secret labs with staffs of nubile jumpsuited assistants come to mind. If it weren't so much, I'd get it just for that.


You shouldn't be thinking those bad thoughts! You're a bad man - you're a very bad man!

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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Wed, 28 November 2018, 20:34:46
Yeah, but...


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i9mko3xQlcw/UwI4PHZHHaI/AAAAAAAAgl4/-cweoogvFug/s1600/UFO-TV-show-british-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Thu, 29 November 2018, 10:28:14
Yeah, but...


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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 29 November 2018, 18:41:05
Yeah, but...


Show Image
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Title: Model M—seller can't find p/n, so super rare!
Post by: ander on Sat, 01 December 2018, 02:52:09
RARE, Vintage White IBM Model M Clicky Keyboard PT NO 1386304 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-White-IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-PT-NO-1386304/264067098619)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VeAAAOSwP8dcAc1C/s-l1600.jpg)


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Okay, I don't think I have any magical Internet skills or anything, but:


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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 December 2018, 08:47:01
"Unit is clean"
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 02 December 2018, 22:45:26
Yep, as in "cleaning someone out".
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 04 December 2018, 23:25:22
IBM 1390131 MODEL M MECHANICAL SPRING KEYBOARD (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1390131-MODEL-M-MECHANICAL-SPRING-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1984-MADE-U-S-A/123526927792)


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Quote from: eBay seller
Just one of the best. a dream to use...

Hmm... Looks like a dirty dream to me.  :?P
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 05 December 2018, 12:25:14
IBM 1390131 MODEL M MECHANICAL SPRING KEYBOARD (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1390131-MODEL-M-MECHANICAL-SPRING-KEYBOARD-VINTAGE-1984-MADE-U-S-A/123526927792)


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Quote from: eBay seller
Just one of the best. a dream to use...

Hmm... Looks like a dirty dream to me.  :?P

Sweet!  This is the ultra-rare version with a bottom left delete key.  Better scoop  it up.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Wed, 05 December 2018, 12:28:35
It's still a good find, but the price is too high in it's present state.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 06 December 2018, 01:25:14
Sweet!  This is the ultra-rare version with a bottom left delete key.  Better scoop  it up.

LOL

It's still a good find, but the price is too high in it's present state.

I just thought it was funny that someone would refer to such a grimy keeb as "a dream to use". Maybe it's just as well we can't see the rest of their house, huh?
Title: F-XT Christmas edition!
Post by: ander on Thu, 06 December 2018, 01:27:28

Ladies 'n' gentlemen—the Model F-XT Christmas Edition!

IBM Keyboard P.N. 4584656 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-P-N-4584656/283289718930)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2P0AAOSwZBRcBoK6/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CusAAOSwZupcBoK4/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/f1oAAOSwYXpcBoK5/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ljcAAOSw11BcBoK5/s-l1600.jpg)


Title: Blue Cube bargain!
Post by: ander on Thu, 06 December 2018, 05:32:32
Also in time for the holidays—a terrific deal on one of those, like, $10 "blue cube" PS/2-to-USB converters!:


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Title: Re: Blue Cube bargain!
Post by: mogo on Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:17:52
Also in time for the holidays—a terrific deal on one of those, like, $10 "blue cube" PS/2-to-USB converters!:


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4 sold

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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:23:43

the Model F-XT Christmas Edition!


Kudos to the seller for transparency and honesty. Also for fair pricing.

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:47:09

the Model F-XT Christmas Edition!


Kudos to the seller for transparency and honesty. Also for fair pricing.

That XT could be a diamond in the rough. The corrosion on the plate can be addressed (sandblast/sand, primer, and paint) but the biggest unknown issue would be the condition of the springs. Some light surface rust is fine but if they are roached just replace them with Model M springs. This unit could be good if you wanted a project or wanted to experiment with further customizations, aka a resto-mod without destroying a prime specimen.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 09 December 2018, 02:27:00
You guys are braver than I am!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Tue, 18 December 2018, 21:04:06
...This is about the worst omnikey I have ever seen, wish they hadn't done this but they did.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Northgate-Omnikey-Ultra-Keyboard-Programmable-Clicky-White-Alps-Xwhatsit-Custom/183586246019

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/N0gAAOSwUpFcBaUV/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 18 December 2018, 23:59:28
...This is about the worst omnikey I have ever seen...

You probably had no way of knowing this, but these custom restores are done by a GH member who's a very talented and experienced guy. As for the esthetics, it's really just a matter of opinion—I happen to think they're quite cool. And if the original finish had become icky, why not redo it?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 19 December 2018, 02:49:21
I think that $310 was a bit too much.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 19 December 2018, 17:33:28
An "Ultra" can be ANSI-modded?

Holy mackerel that is a stunning revelation!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Wed, 19 December 2018, 17:49:26
...This is about the worst omnikey I have ever seen...

You probably had no way of knowing this, but these custom restores are done by a GH member who's a very talented and experienced guy. As for the esthetics, it's really just a matter of opinion—I happen to think they're quite cool. And if the original finish had become icky, why not redo it?

I think it's a great color choice. My only issue is the bottom case but that could be redone easy enough.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 19 December 2018, 20:14:25
An "Ultra" can be ANSI-modded?

Holy mackerel that is a stunning revelation!


Hand-wired though.

You could probably ANSI-mod anything if you were prepared to hand-wire it or make your own PCB.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Fri, 21 December 2018, 05:01:26
I think that $310 was a bit too much.

I've seen clean Ultras go for up to $200. Considering this one isn't just clean but highly customized, some people may not see it as a stretch at all... Ultimately, though, the market determines what anything is "worth".
Title: IBM first aid kit!
Post by: ander on Sun, 23 December 2018, 04:36:31
IBM FIRST AID KIT 453693 for Model M 1392934 Keyboard SSK and 5150 computer  (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-FIRST-AID-KIT-453693-for-Model-M-1392934-Keyboard-SSK-and-5150-computer/153314262512?hash=item23b23dfdf0:g:YjoAAOSwEGBcHxY3:rk:2:pf:0)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YjoAAOSwEGBcHxY3/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7lUAAOSwWz5cHxY9/s-l1600.jpg)


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It appears this actually is a legit IBM part number (https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_ibm360feS1g84_6524820/S131-0075-3_CE_Tools_Ref_Aug84_djvu.txt). However, I'm not sure what it'd be about SSKs that'd be particularly prone to cause injuries, or how you'd use the kit to treat finger cramps.
Title: $400 Selectric caps!
Post by: ander on Mon, 24 December 2018, 02:03:52
Ultra rare blue IBM selectric keycaps for beamspring keyboards (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-rare-blue-IBM-selectric-keycaps-for-beamspring-keyboards/392199390152)


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 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: $400 Selectric caps!
Post by: mogo on Wed, 26 December 2018, 17:20:38
Ultra rare blue IBM selectric keycaps for beamspring keyboards (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-rare-blue-IBM-selectric-keycaps-for-beamspring-keyboards/392199390152)


(Attachment Link)


 :rolleyes:

admittedly damaged keys from one of the most ubiquitous typewriters ever made? What a find!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 27 December 2018, 20:53:56

Ultra rare blue IBM selectric keycaps for beamspring keyboards (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-rare-blue-IBM-selectric-keycaps-for-beamspring-keyboards/392199390152)

admittedly damaged keys from one of the most ubiquitous typewriters ever made? What a find!

Yes it is! Each key is unique in its divots and dings. The endpapers are unusual (anyone recognize this quote? - come on admit it). I do find it interesting that when they made the Selectric, they recognized that people buying beam springs in the future,  for $1000+,  would want those keys!

Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 27 December 2018, 23:22:10
The way you put it, it all makes sense somehow. Maybe we need more coffee.
Title: Some keyboard, with or without all keys, may or may not work—just $169.95!
Post by: ander on Wed, 02 January 2019, 03:12:47
Hoo boy, I don't even know where to start with this one. :rolleyes:

MIXED Brand / Model Vintage Wired Mechanical Clicky Keyboard *AS IS* (https://www.ebay.com/itm/MIXED-Brand-Model-Vintage-Wired-Mechanical-Clicky-Keyboard-AS-IS/323626194660)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5NoAAOSwqLRcJqCN/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Fri, 04 January 2019, 21:03:26
Hoo boy, I don't even know where to start with this one.

Round and round she goes! You pick your number and  you take your chance!

Title: Excellent tactile replacement for IBM
Post by: ander on Sun, 06 January 2019, 02:18:13
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Title: Refurbished Unicomp Classic 101, just $250!
Post by: ander on Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:35:08
Remanufactured by Unicomp IBM Model M 52G9658 Keyboard - November 1993 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remanufactured-by-Unicomp-IBM-Model-M-52G9658-Keyboard-November-1993/283331620170)


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Why pay $84 for a brand-new Unicomp Classic (http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Classic) when you can get a refurbished one for $250? With bonus free plastic bag!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 09 January 2019, 06:35:36
"Remanufactured" as in "made", I guess.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 10 January 2019, 02:10:39
Now he needs to manufacture a buyer for it.  :?O
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Thu, 10 January 2019, 18:50:04
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ketronics-Keyboard-1979-Check-out-the-Keyswitch/113539796109

I actually think it's an interesting old KeyTronic F&F.   But, doh! - broke the keycap pulling it for display!

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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Thu, 10 January 2019, 21:40:19
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ketronics-Keyboard-1979-Check-out-the-Keyswitch/113539796109

I actually think it's an interesting old KeyTronic F&F.   But, doh! - broke the keycap pulling it for display!

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That seller is selling a lot of very interesting boards for little more than a song! I can't imagine most will stay so cheap.  :-X
Title: Trackball w/o trackball
Post by: ander on Sat, 12 January 2019, 05:35:36

VINTAGE IBM 92G7455 Model M5-2 Clicky Buckling Spring Trackball PS/2 Keyboard  (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-92G7455-Model-M5-2-Clicky-Buckling-Spring-Trackball-PS-2-Keyboard/123588798819)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yYgAAOSwdwVcN1Zm/s-l1600.jpg)


I just thought it was funny—a "trackball" without, you know, a trackball.
Title: "Mint" IBM M13 (except it's dirty as hell)
Post by: ander on Sat, 12 January 2019, 08:09:47
It's interesting what some people consider "mint". (Be sure to zoom fully in to see what I'm talkin' about here.)

MINT Black IBM M13 13H6705 Mechanical Keyboard with Integrated Trackpoint PS/2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-Black-IBM-M13-13H6705-Mechanical-Keyboard-with-Integrated-Trackpoint-PS-2/173733389014)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CFsAAOSw4zdcN2km/s-l1600.jpg)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TKgAAOSwvrJcN2k5/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 18 January 2019, 00:57:04
Anyone wanna drop 10K on a rubber dome?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-Vintage-PS-2-Keyboard-KB-3923-294318-006-New-Old-Stock/362426686642

I really love how it says "save big, free shipping" on the description.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:52:58
Anyone wanna drop 10K on a rubber dome?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-Vintage-PS-2-Keyboard-KB-3923-294318-006-New-Old-Stock/362426686642

I really love how it says "save big, free shipping" on the description.

I would love to literally drop an object that large on to a rubber dome.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:29:26
Why does someone with 58,000 sales and 100% positive feedback list a rubber dome for $10,000?
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: derznation on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:46:09
Hey at least the economy shipping is free  :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 18 January 2019, 17:20:25
Why does someone with 58,000 sales and 100% positive feedback list a rubber dome for $10,000?

Hard to know. Those early-2000s Compaqs were really good rubber domes, but even $39.95 would be too high.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:08:49
LOL. Yeah, that's pretty wild.

Considering it looks like an legit seller, otherwise, I'm guessing they got distracted and typed more digits than they realized into the ol' Price box. I'll drop them a note to find out, and will let you know what they say.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 20 January 2019, 00:12:38
I mean, if he meant to list it at $39.95 i might actually think about it.  It's a cool rubber dome.   

$15 might be more enticing though  :p
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Mon, 21 January 2019, 04:37:46
Quote
$ave BIG

FREE shipping

*giggle*
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Mon, 21 January 2019, 21:07:04
No answer... Guess they're standing by their price. Maybe it's full of diamonds or something.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: invariance on Tue, 22 January 2019, 16:21:12
...... or something.
once received, open it up to retrieve the “something” to sell on the street and recoup your money.
Then you have one free keyboard


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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Tue, 22 January 2019, 18:10:54
once received, open it up to retrieve the “something” to sell on the street and recoup your money... Then you have one free keyboard

Dang, why didn't I think of that?

BTW, it's important to remember that you should never clean an old keyboard you're selling (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-1391401-MODEL-M-15/283348931479?epid=530091212). Don't even pass a damp rag over it before you take your photos... Some of that vintage grime can be valuable! Plus, it's easier.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: no, the other guy on Wed, 23 January 2019, 04:41:32
Also, dirt is a genuine certificate for a keyboard's age!
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Wed, 23 January 2019, 13:25:55
once received, open it up to retrieve the “something” to sell on the street and recoup your money... Then you have one free keyboard

Dang, why didn't I think of that?

BTW, it's important to remember that you should never clean an old keyboard you're selling (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Keyboard-1391401-MODEL-M-15/283348931479?epid=530091212). Don't even pass a damp rag over it before you take your photos... Some of that vintage grime can be valuable! Plus, it's easier.

Dog chewed off an enter key? Pump that buy-it-now price up another six bucks, that's some GENUINE WEAR AND TEAR.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 15:06:09
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AVID-DEKO-FAST-ACTION-KEYBOARD/333046836409?hash=item4d8b236cb9:g:a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb

This board was described as one of the best constructed mx boards ever. It should have vintage blacks. Maybe someone can talk the seller down on the price
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 31 January 2019, 23:55:33
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AVID-DEKO-FAST-ACTION-KEYBOARD/333046836409?hash=item4d8b236cb9:g:a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb

This board was described as one of the best constructed mx boards ever. It should have vintage blacks. Maybe someone can talk the seller down on the price


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb/s-l1600.jpg)


I agree, $283 + shipping is steep. But I think most of you would agree, it's interesting enough to have its own Great Finds thread—rather than going here, where we traditionally put the real dogs.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Thu, 31 January 2019, 23:58:28
Here's a 2014 thread about them (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61403.0), if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 01 February 2019, 00:24:51
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/79077/heinz-canned-soup-big-red-tomato-salt-reduced


Terrible find.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: JP on Fri, 01 February 2019, 08:17:29
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/79077/heinz-canned-soup-big-red-tomato-salt-reduced


Terrible find.

Yeah that's just too expensive. When I need my tomato soup hit I just steal some ketchup packets from the fast food joint and add warm water and pinch of salt and pepper.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 01 February 2019, 09:57:40
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AVID-DEKO-FAST-ACTION-KEYBOARD/333046836409?hash=item4d8b236cb9:g:a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb

This board was described as one of the best constructed mx boards ever. It should have vintage blacks. Maybe someone can talk the seller down on the price


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb/s-l1600.jpg)



I agree, $283 + shipping is steep. But I think most of you would agree, it's interesting enough to have its own Great Finds thread—rather than going here, where we traditionally put the real dogs.

Fair! I wanted to make a Great Finds thread but obviously thought the price was not-so-great
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: ander on Sun, 03 February 2019, 04:33:39
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/79077/heinz-canned-soup-big-red-tomato-salt-reduced

Terrible find.


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Well, it's big and red, so Chyros would probably be interested in it.   :eek:
Title: NIB Model M (except it's used)
Post by: ander on Wed, 06 February 2019, 15:17:37
Old Stock IBM Model M F2 Keyboard Part Number 1391401 PS/2 (1988 Vintage) (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Stock-IBM-Model-M-F2-Keyboard-Part-Number-1391401-PS-2-1988-Vintage/113620583838)


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Quote from: eBay seller
Condition: New other (see details)

"Was in original box when purchased and was bought as New old stock."

Looks like eBay needs a new category:

Condition: Seller thinks it's new, but they got taken
Title: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: ander on Mon, 18 February 2019, 02:30:50
IBM Lexmark 1395100 Model M PS/2 Mechanical Buckling Spring Keyboard AS-IS (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-1395100-Model-M-PS-2-Mechanical-Buckling-Spring-Keyboard-AS-IS/264187370482)


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Cj0AAOSwCA5cXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)


BIN $85.00 + shipping

You may be thinking, "Okay, I suppose that's a reasonable price for a seldom-seen oddball Model M variant which Lexmark, for some arcane reason, gave a p/n that'd already been used for an SSK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60713.0)."

But wait—there's more! This particular keeb has had so much cigarette smoke blown on it, its barrel plate is coated with free nicotine sludge (zoom in for full effect):


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCgAAOSwcOtcXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)


The stuff can also be found oozing out in various other places:


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tLQAAOSw1UdcXhGw/s-l1600.jpg)


Usually, one must coat one's own keebs with the sludge of their choice. But if you're looking for one that's been pre-infused with oily, stinky, toxic tobacco goop, what a value!
Title: Re: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 18 February 2019, 03:49:14
IBM Lexmark 1395100 Model M PS/2 Mechanical Buckling Spring Keyboard AS-IS (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-1395100-Model-M-PS-2-Mechanical-Buckling-Spring-Keyboard-AS-IS/264187370482)


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Cj0AAOSwCA5cXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)



BIN $85.00 + shipping

You may be thinking, "Okay, I suppose that's a reasonable price for a seldom-seen oddball Model M variant which Lexmark, for some arcane reason, gave a p/n that'd already been used for an SSK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60713.0)."

But wait—there's more! This particular keeb has had so much cigarette smoke blown on it, its barrel plate is coated with free nicotine sludge (zoom in for full effect):


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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCgAAOSwcOtcXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)



The stuff can also be found oozing out in various other places:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tLQAAOSw1UdcXhGw/s-l1600.jpg)



Usually, one must coat one's own keebs with the sludge of their choice. But if you're looking for one that's been pre-infused with oily, stinky, toxic tobacco goop, what a value!

hey hey hey hey wait just one minute. Buying that and scooping up that juciy nicotine sludge so as to  smoke it through a crack pipe would still be cheaper than buying cigarettes in Straya.

Title: Re: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: ander on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:03:25
...Buying that and scooping up that juciy nicotine sludge so as to  smoke it through a crack pipe would still be cheaper than buying cigarettes in Straya.

Sympathies, mate... As you know, though, everything we produce for you here must be manufactured upside-down so it'll be right-side-up when it reaches you—and as I'm sure you can imagine, it's more costly having to suspend all the equipment and workers from the ceiling.
Title: $3K M still available
Post by: ander on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:06:32

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NIB Industrial Model M (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345)—just $3,073!! Plus shipping!

Never mind that it's p/n 1394946, the most common Industrial M... It's NIB. Thus there's no limit on its value—it could be worth anything! Don't believe me? Just ask this seller!  :?O

And they're still at it (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1394950-NEW-OLD-STOCK-IBM-INDUSTRIAL-ENHANCED-101-KEY-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-1394946/162030404345)! They haven't raisedthe price, at least.
Title: Re: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 22 February 2019, 02:44:06
...Buying that and scooping up that juciy nicotine sludge so as to  smoke it through a crack pipe would still be cheaper than buying cigarettes in Straya.

Sympathies, mate... As you know, though, everything we produce for you here must be manufactured upside-down so it'll be right-side-up when it reaches you—and as I'm sure you can imagine, it's more costly having to suspend all the equipment and workers from the ceiling.

We appreciate it though, without this we would still be watching Dawsons Creek upside down. It must be hard on the actors brains all that extra blood flow to the cerebellum.
Title: Re: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: JP on Fri, 22 February 2019, 22:40:35
IBM Lexmark 1395100 Model M PS/2 Mechanical Buckling Spring Keyboard AS-IS (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-1395100-Model-M-PS-2-Mechanical-Buckling-Spring-Keyboard-AS-IS/264187370482)


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Cj0AAOSwCA5cXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)



BIN $85.00 + shipping

You may be thinking, "Okay, I suppose that's a reasonable price for a seldom-seen oddball Model M variant which Lexmark, for some arcane reason, gave a p/n that'd already been used for an SSK (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60713.0)."

But wait—there's more! This particular keeb has had so much cigarette smoke blown on it, its barrel plate is coated with free nicotine sludge (zoom in for full effect):


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCgAAOSwcOtcXhGx/s-l1600.jpg)



The stuff can also be found oozing out in various other places:


Show Image
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tLQAAOSw1UdcXhGw/s-l1600.jpg)



Usually, one must coat one's own keebs with the sludge of their choice. But if you're looking for one that's been pre-infused with oily, stinky, toxic tobacco goop, what a value!

Dang, a beige Model with a square badge. That's quite odd. Maybe they re-used an old mold used with the square badge industrials.
Title: Re: Model M 1395100 – free nicotine sludge!
Post by: ander on Sat, 23 February 2019, 00:16:30
Dang, a beige Model with a square badge. That's quite odd. Maybe they re-used an old mold used with the square badge industrials.

It is odd Lexmark used the old upper-right square-logo case... It's actually the only OEM Model M I've seen that didn't use the newer rectangular left-side space. Maybe they didn't feel they could adapt their logo to a more horizontal format. Go figure.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Sun, 14 April 2019, 22:13:19
I didn't know they had these on Titanic!

[attach=1]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALLEN-BRADLEY-1770-TA-SER-B-FW-C-TERMINAL-W-1770-FKA-PLC-2-KEYBOARD/283448239432
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: morgul12 on Thu, 02 May 2019, 09:15:27
Lexmark Model M... needs a good cleaning, but hey, it has a novelty fake key stuck on with putty!  Only $44 for 12 months

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113733829161?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 May 2019, 09:40:52
Lexmark Model M... needs a good cleaning, but hey, it has a novelty fake key stuck on with putty!  Only $44 for 12 months

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113733829161?ul_noapp=true

good lordy
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Ascenity on Fri, 03 May 2019, 11:03:41
Only a cool £100 for a lasered cap G80-3000 - bargain!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254219031123
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Sintpinty on Sun, 19 May 2019, 19:25:31
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AVID-DEKO-FAST-ACTION-KEYBOARD/333046836409?hash=item4d8b236cb9:g:a6UAAOSwYXpcENMb

This board was described as one of the best constructed mx boards ever. It should have vintage blacks. Maybe someone can talk the seller down on the price

A real shame that the board is at a unfair price.   :(
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mogo on Mon, 20 May 2019, 08:18:45
Is it unfair? That seems like a really interesting board, and I'd be curious to see what the LCD is for. The price doesn't seem too unreasonable for such a massive and weird board.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 May 2019, 08:32:35
Is it unfair? That seems like a really interesting board, and I'd be curious to see what the LCD is for. The price doesn't seem too unreasonable for such a massive and weird board.
Yeah that shouldn't cost more than ~$100 (I see one on ebay now for $80+$20 shipping)and that is still kinda high, I bought one like 6 years ago for ~$60.

The board doesn't work with a modern pc IIRC it is specific to it's own hardware system. I will mention there are a few revisions so perhaps a newer might function differently than the one I had which was an older model.

They are well built and interesting with those half keycaps but I can't see spending hundreds on it.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 20 May 2019, 10:04:59
Ebay isn't the best website to shop for great finds because you can hardly find any on the site. Most of the time, their customers are not the best at researching their products, and because of that the seller thinks they have the right to charge that unfair price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: guptaji on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:50:38
Quote from: eBay seller
I tested the keyboard this last week on my office computer, and all keys function as designed. It felt great to be typing again on this classic keyboard...

I will vacuum the keyboard and wipe it down, but I don't want to take all the keys off to wash them individually... You can see this was well used and the keys are dirty. I have reduced the starting price accordingly.

Kindly, which vacuum cleaner is the best for this kind of operation? TIA.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Mon, 09 December 2019, 14:55:10



QTY-1 LOGITECH S-2Y50 SK6300 CORDLESS RARE KEYBOARD PC COMPATIBLE LOT #13

https://www.ebay.com/itm/QTY-1-LOGITECH-S-2Y50-SK6300-CORDLESS-RARE-KEYBOARD-PC-COMPATIBLE-LOT-13/371759264578

I guess the cord is just for display purposes.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 31 December 2019, 15:34:53



QTY-1 LOGITECH S-2Y50 SK6300 CORDLESS RARE KEYBOARD PC COMPATIBLE LOT #13

https://www.ebay.com/itm/QTY-1-LOGITECH-S-2Y50-SK6300-CORDLESS-RARE-KEYBOARD-PC-COMPATIBLE-LOT-13/371759264578

I guess the cord is just for display purposes.

Redefines the meaning of "cordless" :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sat, 11 January 2020, 10:42:04
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-QWERTY-1-Key-PS-2-KEYBOARD-MODEL-KB-7953-E1897/303436814302?hash=item46a63e57de:g:iv4AAOSwz1peFU2~

Here we have a single key from a KB-7953 for 40 bucks.

Nevermind that I can literally buy the complete KEYBOARD for half that price if I really want it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 15 January 2020, 20:48:04
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-QWERTY-1-Key-PS-2-KEYBOARD-MODEL-KB-7953-E1897/303436814302?hash=item46a63e57de:g:iv4AAOSwz1peFU2~

Here we have a single key from a KB-7953 for 40 bucks.

Nevermind that I can literally buy the complete KEYBOARD for half that price if I really want it.

How much crack did that guy smoke? This thread is gold. I feel I'll be adding to it the next time I see something like crappy old mid 2000s paper thin OEM budget computer cases being sold as "premium gamer" cases for $60 each. That guy got really offended when I told him those things aren't worth anything. Somebody must have taken him for a ride.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Thu, 16 January 2020, 05:57:24
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-QWERTY-1-Key-PS-2-KEYBOARD-MODEL-KB-7953-E1897/303436814302?hash=item46a63e57de:g:iv4AAOSwz1peFU2~

Here we have a single key from a KB-7953 for 40 bucks.

Nevermind that I can literally buy the complete KEYBOARD for half that price if I really want it.

How much crack did that guy smoke? This thread is gold. I feel I'll be adding to it the next time I see something like crappy old mid 2000s paper thin OEM budget computer cases being sold as "premium gamer" cases for $60 each. That guy got really offended when I told him those things aren't worth anything. Somebody must have taken him for a ride.

I can see the crack logic: "It's rare! old things yellow like books! It must be worth at least 100$, but I'll let it go for a steal."

Some people are also just desperate and are hoping to get a crazy ebay buyer, I have sold something on Ebay that didn't make sense to go for as much as they did, that is a once in a blue moon thing, but this sort of auction may be courting that kind of buyer.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Thu, 16 January 2020, 07:13:26
I can see the crack logic: "It's rare! old things yellow like books! It must be worth at least 100$, but I'll let it go for a steal."

Some people are also just desperate and are hoping to get a crazy ebay buyer, I have sold something on Ebay that didn't make sense to go for as much as they did, that is a once in a blue moon thing, but this sort of auction may be courting that kind of buyer.

Yeah, they yellow, just like my 100-year-old book on the history of England that's worth like $10. I wonder if the idea was to post the 2 key once some lucky person snatched up the 1. The cases I actually saw on Facebook marketplace, and some of them were Dell, so you had to go, " ... are those even ATX?"
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sun, 26 January 2020, 18:52:32
Yeah, they yellow, just like my 100-year-old book on the history of England that's worth like $10. I wonder if the idea was to post the 2 key once some lucky person snatched up the 1. The cases I actually saw on Facebook marketplace, and some of them were Dell, so you had to go, " ... are those even ATX?"

ugh, facebook marketplace is like the craigslist of craigslist to me, I stay far away, unless it's something REALLY special. I've bought two things on Facebook marketplace and had a strange time with both, so I keep it as a last resort option. (IBM 5251 for 300 dollars converted to USB cleaned and perfect, and it'll also give me a massage every evening? maybe... later...)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sun, 26 January 2020, 18:56:17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-model-F-122-FULLY-restored-new-foam-soarers-converter-ANSI-mod-EXTRAS/324050800899?hash=item4b72eed103:g:wAUAAOSwTz1eKTtS

a model F 122, ANSI modded, for hold on here...


1500 bucks!

For the price of a car you can have a lovingly catered to F122, that has IBM wheelwriter keycaps. (Sorta neat, pretty useless otherwise)

It has a soarers converter thrown in.

He has also inserted a "Code" key next to the space bar, that has a questionable utility.

I mean, I like this keyboard, but I'd like a car for the same price better.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Sun, 26 January 2020, 20:59:42
ugh, facebook marketplace is like the craigslist of craigslist to me, I stay far away, unless it's something REALLY special. I've bought two things on Facebook marketplace and had a strange time with both, so I keep it as a last resort option. (IBM 5251 for 300 dollars converted to USB cleaned and perfect, and it'll also give me a massage every evening? maybe... later...)

Wow, nice. I have never seen a beamspring board in person.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-model-F-122-FULLY-restored-new-foam-soarers-converter-ANSI-mod-EXTRAS/324050800899?hash=item4b72eed103:g:wAUAAOSwTz1eKTtS

a model F 122, ANSI modded, for hold on here...


1500 bucks!

For the price of a car you can have a lovingly catered to F122, that has IBM wheelwriter keycaps. (Sorta neat, pretty useless otherwise)

It has a soarers converter thrown in.

He has also inserted a "Code" key next to the space bar, that has a questionable utility.

I mean, I like this keyboard, but I'd like a car for the same price better.

I have paid even less than that for cars. lol.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sun, 26 January 2020, 22:11:27
Wow, nice. I have never seen a beamspring board in person.

I have paid even less than that for cars. lol.

I was being facetious, I meant, if I found such a thing on Facebook Marketplace, I'd still probably not buy it, due to how unsavory and poor transactions have gone on there for me.

I've paid less too, and gotten ALOT more out of them than this.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Sun, 26 January 2020, 22:17:02
Wow, nice. I have never seen a beamspring board in person.

I have paid even less than that for cars. lol.

I was being facetious, I meant, if I found such a thing on Facebook Marketplace, I'd still probably not buy it, due to how unsavory and poor transactions have gone on there for me.

I've paid less too, and gotten ALOT more out of them than this.

Ah, makes sense. I can't think of anything I have actually purchased on there before yet. I always used Craigslist, and I'm not a fan of social media, so the marketplace is literally the only reason I log in sometimes.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Sun, 26 January 2020, 22:30:31
Same here, I log into my Facebook maybe once a month in case a far flung relation has a question for me, or REALLY needs to tell me something in a semi-private way.

Otherwise my facebook has been rotting for years now.

I can't wait until it's dead, I'll have the last reason I need to finally be rid of it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Sun, 26 January 2020, 23:01:10
Same here, I log into my Facebook maybe once a month in case a far flung relation has a question for me, or REALLY needs to tell me something in a semi-private way.

Otherwise my facebook has been rotting for years now.

I can't wait until it's dead, I'll have the last reason I need to finally be rid of it.

You've already got every reason to be rid of it. What do they need to message you on Facebook, of all things, for? lol
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Mon, 27 January 2020, 21:46:36
You've already got every reason to be rid of it. What do they need to message you on Facebook, of all things, for? lol

Because my old family is old, and they don't want to change, and it was pulling teeth to get them even on this, nevermind email, or anything else.  :'(

Also it's minimal maintenance and time to just leave it and login once a month and check it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 January 2020, 07:26:06

I'll have the last reason I need to finally be rid of it.



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37830765-ten-arguments-for-deleting-your-social-media-accounts-right-now (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37830765-ten-arguments-for-deleting-your-social-media-accounts-right-now)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Tue, 28 January 2020, 13:40:14

I'll have the last reason I need to finally be rid of it.



https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37830765-ten-arguments-for-deleting-your-social-media-accounts-right-now (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37830765-ten-arguments-for-deleting-your-social-media-accounts-right-now)
I completely agree with this.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 January 2020, 14:02:12
I have encountered a lot of people who hear the title and think that they know what is inside.

It is an easy read that is well worth it. I strongly recommend it.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:13:41
Anybody up for paying new Model F prices for a run-of-the-mill Model M with some ratty old foam?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Rare-IBM-Model-M-1391580-Clicky-Buckling-Keyboard-1987-Original-Package-SFC/273997794361?hash=item3fcb8a8c39:g:NyAAAOSw7Yhdcx0B:sc:USPSPriority!53090!US!-1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Rare-IBM-Model-M-1391580-Clicky-Buckling-Keyboard-1987-Original-Package-SFC/273997794361?hash=item3fcb8a8c39:g:NyAAAOSw7Yhdcx0B:sc:USPSPriority!53090!US!-1)

There were quite a few Model Ms up there priced with the random F XTs that nobody wants already. There's even one thrown up in front of an old IBM 5150, probably to try to make people think it is older than it is.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 11 March 2020, 10:52:47
F AT with no badge at all for $350 anybody? lol

VERY RAREgreat IBM Model F AT 84 Key keyboard , Buckling Spring Clicky keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RAREgreat-IBM-Model-F-AT-84-Key-keyboard-Buckling-Spring-Clicky-keyboard/184201774942?hash=item2ae348075e:g:C1EAAOSwfF1eZDkr)

It is "VERY RAREgreat" afterall.


Mod edit: fixed link so I could click it
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 15 March 2020, 11:58:47
F AT with no badge at all for $350 anybody? lol

VERY RAREgreat IBM Model F AT 84 Key keyboard , Buckling Spring Clicky keyboard (https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RAREgreat-IBM-Model-F-AT-84-Key-keyboard-Buckling-Spring-Clicky-keyboard/184201774942?hash=item2ae348075e:g:C1EAAOSwfF1eZDkr)

It is "VERY RAREgreat" afterall.


Mod edit: fixed link so I could click it

Was half expecting 'no badge' to be a selling point but at least it wasn't.  It does look nice and clean...


And for something completely different, just what everyone needs:  a bicycle 'mustache' (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bicycle-Mustache/153863627703?hash=item23d2fca3b7:g:VTYAAOSwU2BeQbxm) :))
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:36:59
Was half expecting 'no badge' to be a selling point but at least it wasn't.  It does look nice and clean...


And for something completely different, just what everyone needs:  a bicycle 'mustache' (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bicycle-Mustache/153863627703?hash=item23d2fca3b7:g:VTYAAOSwU2BeQbxm) :))

I broke the link? Sorry about that. I tweak/hack up the tags too much and don't always check to make sure everything is formatted correctly.

That's actually kind of awesome. Almost makes you want to also get a handlebar-mounted mirror to try to mount a monocle to as well.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: OldIsNew on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:12:54
From the same seller:

[attach=1]

Just buy them all and put it back together!

I have one of these keyboards and do think it is pretty cool - but I wouldn't pay more than $30 - 40 for one in one piece.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 17 March 2020, 20:54:47
Must be a recycling facility guy that's got no stake in the company. From what I heard from a place I got a bunch of keyboards from, they've got some guys that are paid a percentage of their Ebay sales, and they basically don't bother at all unless they think they can make a decent buck. Just slap stuff up for stupid prices with wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Thu, 26 March 2020, 00:01:43
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Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Thu, 26 March 2020, 00:03:05
Anybody up for paying new Model F prices for a run-of-the-mill Model M with some ratty old foam?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Rare-IBM-Model-M-1391580-Clicky-Buckling-Keyboard-1987-Original-Package-SFC/273997794361?hash=item3fcb8a8c39:g:NyAAAOSw7Yhdcx0B:sc:USPSPriority!53090!US!-1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Rare-IBM-Model-M-1391580-Clicky-Buckling-Keyboard-1987-Original-Package-SFC/273997794361?hash=item3fcb8a8c39:g:NyAAAOSw7Yhdcx0B:sc:USPSPriority!53090!US!-1)

There were quite a few Model Ms up there priced with the random F XTs that nobody wants already. There's even one thrown up in front of an old IBM 5150, probably to try to make people think it is older than it is.

That model M better type for me at that price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:21:41
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Model-F-Clicky-Key-Mechanical-Keyboard-6110345-1985-AS-IS/293526716962?hash=item44578e4222:g:-kkAAOSwqFVefhj1

As the F122 gets more popular this late in it's life, people seem to be getting the idea that you can sell them for half a grand. I'm sure the price will creep up there, but you can get a good one for around 300 bucks still as of 2020. If you are patient.

I'm sure in some years I'll be eating these words, but seeing postings like this show me that you gotta be REALLY wanting one right now to pay that much.

The cord on it's not particularly pretty either.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:51:03

this late in it's life,

REALLY wanting one right now


They're not going to become more plentiful.

PS - re-coiling a cable is pretty easy
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Fri, 27 March 2020, 17:21:43

this late in it's life,

REALLY wanting one right now


They're not going to become more plentiful.

PS - re-coiling a cable is pretty easy

Really? got a good link? I got one I'd like to recoil.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 March 2020, 18:13:58
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82202.msg2832586#msg2832586 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82202.msg2832586#msg2832586)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Fri, 27 March 2020, 19:38:09
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82202.msg2832586#msg2832586 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82202.msg2832586#msg2832586)

Appreciate ya fohat, this is going to come in handy for me.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: mrmola on Tue, 31 March 2020, 00:58:35
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Terminal-Chiclet-Keyboard/223959177794

2000$ for a chiclet keyboard.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 31 March 2020, 08:11:15
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Terminal-Chiclet-Keyboard/223959177794

2000$ for a chiclet keyboard.

You would think it would be a brand new Apple product at that price. I bet it feels better than a Macbook Pro "keyboard" at least.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Tue, 31 March 2020, 09:20:36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Terminal-Chiclet-Keyboard/223959177794

2000$ for a chiclet keyboard.

You would think it would be a brand new Apple product at that price. I bet it feels better than a Macbook Pro "keyboard" at least.

It took courage (Keyboard courage?) to remove all sense of travel from their keyboard. So much courage that they've removed it in all the new models coming out.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 31 March 2020, 10:16:41
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bloomberg-Terminal-Chiclet-Keyboard/223959177794

2000$ for a chiclet keyboard.

You would think it would be a brand new Apple product at that price. I bet it feels better than a Macbook Pro "keyboard" at least.

It took courage (Keyboard courage?) to remove all sense of travel from their keyboard. So much courage that they've removed it in all the new models coming out.

As we all know, the most important thing in computing is making sure that the computer is at least as thin as a piece of paper, and have a battery that will last 20 years on a single charge. Sacrifices must be made.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Tue, 31 March 2020, 11:16:07
As we all know, the most important thing in computing is making sure that the computer is at least as thin as a piece of paper, and have a battery that will last 20 years on a single charge. Sacrifices must be made.

Comfort? Who cares when your mac boots THIS fast!

Oh to make room for more SSD, we removed the remaining ports, usb is going to be taken over by bluetooth anyway.  >:D

(I remember having a colleague who earnestly believed that, and whenever he pulled out his bluetooth connected "thumb drive" we'd benchmark it, this happened three times, and he always had an excuse for why it was going bluetooth speed, instead of you know, USB speed.)
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 31 March 2020, 11:43:04
As we all know, the most important thing in computing is making sure that the computer is at least as thin as a piece of paper, and have a battery that will last 20 years on a single charge. Sacrifices must be made.

Comfort? Who cares when your mac boots THIS fast!

Oh to make room for more SSD, we removed the remaining ports, usb is going to be taken over by bluetooth anyway.  >:D

(I remember having a colleague who earnestly believed that, and whenever he pulled out his bluetooth connected "thumb drive" we'd benchmark it, this happened three times, and he always had an excuse for why it was going bluetooth speed, instead of you know, USB speed.)

There are bluetooth flash drives?  :eek: Why? Just why? That sounds like the worst possible application for that technology. Pairing with new devices is a pain ... and transfers. No thanks.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 01 April 2020, 09:17:48
As we all know, the most important thing in computing is making sure that the computer is at least as thin as a piece of paper, and have a battery that will last 20 years on a single charge. Sacrifices must be made.

Comfort? Who cares when your mac boots THIS fast!

Oh to make room for more SSD, we removed the remaining ports, usb is going to be taken over by bluetooth anyway.  >:D

(I remember having a colleague who earnestly believed that, and whenever he pulled out his bluetooth connected "thumb drive" we'd benchmark it, this happened three times, and he always had an excuse for why it was going bluetooth speed, instead of you know, USB speed.)

There are bluetooth flash drives?  :eek: Why? Just why? That sounds like the worst possible application for that technology. Pairing with new devices is a pain ... and transfers. No thanks.

It didn't take off, I'm not really surprise as to why. It was meant to be connected to phones to add space, but when that space is SOOOOO SLOOOWWWWW, no-one wanted it even for that. If I recall it was like 150 something for 32 GB's around 7 years ago, which makes that price only a little less rediculous.

He had some very interesting beliefs when it came to computers, I felt like only because he just had to see the "conspiracy since of things." He loved Internet explorer over firefox, but not chrome, he was a Mac guy, who loved Powerpc, and thought the Intel craze was a temporary stop on the way to ARM. (He might be right about that.) And thought that Dvorak typing was pretentious, which didn't make sense to me, because I don't think he knew anyone who typed in Dvorak.  :(
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 01 April 2020, 10:17:20
As we all know, the most important thing in computing is making sure that the computer is at least as thin as a piece of paper, and have a battery that will last 20 years on a single charge. Sacrifices must be made.

Comfort? Who cares when your mac boots THIS fast!

Oh to make room for more SSD, we removed the remaining ports, usb is going to be taken over by bluetooth anyway.  >:D

(I remember having a colleague who earnestly believed that, and whenever he pulled out his bluetooth connected "thumb drive" we'd benchmark it, this happened three times, and he always had an excuse for why it was going bluetooth speed, instead of you know, USB speed.)

There are bluetooth flash drives?  :eek: Why? Just why? That sounds like the worst possible application for that technology. Pairing with new devices is a pain ... and transfers. No thanks.

It didn't take off, I'm not really surprise as to why. It was meant to be connected to phones to add space, but when that space is SOOOOO SLOOOWWWWW, no-one wanted it even for that. If I recall it was like 150 something for 32 GB's around 7 years ago, which makes that price only a little less rediculous.

He had some very interesting beliefs when it came to computers, I felt like only because he just had to see the "conspiracy since of things." He loved Internet explorer over firefox, but not chrome, he was a Mac guy, who loved Powerpc, and thought the Intel craze was a temporary stop on the way to ARM. (He might be right about that.) And thought that Dvorak typing was pretentious, which didn't make sense to me, because I don't think he knew anyone who typed in Dvorak.  :(

He's an Apple guy, that's the only thing you had to say. lol. Those abominations they tried to pass off as storage are a solution to a problem that should never have existed. I will literally never buy a phone that doesn't have an accessible micro SD card slot. I'm not going to flush hundreds down the toilet to some greedy corporation over a few extra gigabytes of internal storage, which they have hiked in that way specifically because they can when they refuse to give you optionally upgradeable storage.

Wait, so he liked Chrome the most, Internet Explorer next, and then Firefox? I'm exactly the opposite. At least Internet Explorer didn't break itself on a daily basis, back when it was still maintained. I suppose that PowerPC had a chance of taking over once, although that was always going to be an uphill battle against X86's software support and adoption rates. I don't think Arm will ever take over though, especially if they just keep using it in tiny embedded systems. Desktop computers aren't going anywhere. Arm would need to take over the desktop and laptop market with vastly superior performance, and become fully supported by M$, or Windows would have to be supplanted by Linux. That's a lot of ifs.

He's a PPC Apple fanatic, buying nonsensical technological dead end bluetooth devices in order to work around Apple's arbitrary/greedy business practices, but Dvorak is pretentious. Alright, buddy. lol. I bet he's got 20 different dongles for his new iPhone and Macbook Pro.

I would love to meet this guy. I would have a field day.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Thu, 02 April 2020, 10:18:35
He's an Apple guy, that's the only thing you had to say. lol. Those abominations they tried to pass off as storage are a solution to a problem that should never have existed. I will literally never buy a phone that doesn't have an accessible micro SD card slot. I'm not going to flush hundreds down the toilet to some greedy corporation over a few extra gigabytes of internal storage, which they have hiked in that way specifically because they can when they refuse to give you optionally upgradeable storage.

Wait, so he liked Chrome the most, Internet Explorer next, and then Firefox? I'm exactly the opposite. At least Internet Explorer didn't break itself on a daily basis, back when it was still maintained. I suppose that PowerPC had a chance of taking over once, although that was always going to be an uphill battle against X86's software support and adoption rates. I don't think Arm will ever take over though, especially if they just keep using it in tiny embedded systems. Desktop computers aren't going anywhere. Arm would need to take over the desktop and laptop market with vastly superior performance, and become fully supported by M$, or Windows would have to be supplanted by Linux. That's a lot of ifs.

He's a PPC Apple fanatic, buying nonsensical technological dead end bluetooth devices in order to work around Apple's arbitrary/greedy business practices, but Dvorak is pretentious. Alright, buddy. lol. I bet he's got 20 different dongles for his new iPhone and Macbook Pro.

I would love to meet this guy. I would have a field day.

I hope for your sake you never have to, he was one of those "artsy" types that went into IT, because it couldn't that hard, he used a mac everyday. Now that doesn't take away from Mac users, I've met some very capable IT's that were Mac only at home; but this guy certainly didn't help their case at all. He had stopped learning about computers YEARS ago and sat on that knowledge convinced he had learned everything, in a field that prides itself on ever-changing. He would make stupid arrogant decisions that would shoot us all in the foot, and never take responsibility (E.G. image computers in a different older method because "It just worked back then" And then pretend it was an accident to our bosses.) but he would never stop yelling if something happened that made him look bad, most of the bosses didn't want to deal with him, and none ever grew a spine to just fire the guy.

I don't miss him at all.  ;D
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Thu, 02 April 2020, 10:28:23
He's an Apple guy, that's the only thing you had to say. lol. Those abominations they tried to pass off as storage are a solution to a problem that should never have existed. I will literally never buy a phone that doesn't have an accessible micro SD card slot. I'm not going to flush hundreds down the toilet to some greedy corporation over a few extra gigabytes of internal storage, which they have hiked in that way specifically because they can when they refuse to give you optionally upgradeable storage.

Wait, so he liked Chrome the most, Internet Explorer next, and then Firefox? I'm exactly the opposite. At least Internet Explorer didn't break itself on a daily basis, back when it was still maintained. I suppose that PowerPC had a chance of taking over once, although that was always going to be an uphill battle against X86's software support and adoption rates. I don't think Arm will ever take over though, especially if they just keep using it in tiny embedded systems. Desktop computers aren't going anywhere. Arm would need to take over the desktop and laptop market with vastly superior performance, and become fully supported by M$, or Windows would have to be supplanted by Linux. That's a lot of ifs.

He's a PPC Apple fanatic, buying nonsensical technological dead end bluetooth devices in order to work around Apple's arbitrary/greedy business practices, but Dvorak is pretentious. Alright, buddy. lol. I bet he's got 20 different dongles for his new iPhone and Macbook Pro.

I would love to meet this guy. I would have a field day.

I hope for your sake you never have to, he was one of those "artsy" types that went into IT, because it couldn't that hard, he used a mac everyday. Now that doesn't take away from Mac users, I've met some very capable IT's that were Mac only at home; but this guy certainly didn't help their case at all. He had stopped learning about computers YEARS ago and sat on that knowledge convinced he had learned everything, in a field that prides itself on ever-changing. He would make stupid arrogant decisions that would shoot us all in the foot, and never take responsibility (E.G. image computers in a different older method because "It just worked back then" And then pretend it was an accident to our bosses.) but he would never stop yelling if something happened that made him look bad, most of the bosses didn't want to deal with him, and none ever grew a spine to just fire the guy.

I don't miss him at all.  ;D

Ha, I bet you don't. I don't know how people can get into IT without some flexibility.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:21:20
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-71G4644-Model-M-keyboard-TESTED/193393555927?epid=74113138&hash=item2d072779d7:g:siUAAOSwS6ZaxBmc

Here's a rubber dome Model M for the price of a really nice mint Buckling spring model.

I mean even if you are the biggest fan of the Rubber Dome M, You can get it mint for half this price.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 08 April 2020, 14:47:58
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-71G4644-Model-M-keyboard-TESTED/193393555927?epid=74113138&hash=item2d072779d7:g:siUAAOSwS6ZaxBmc

Here's a rubber dome Model M for the price of a really nice mint Buckling spring model.

I mean even if you are the biggest fan of the Rubber Dome M, You can get it mint for half this price.

Are there fans of rubber dome Ms? Abominations. Kill it with fire.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 April 2020, 16:07:28

Here's a rubber dome Model M


Are there fans of rubber dome Ms?


There are times that you need a less-than-excellent keyboard (eg taking it to a workplace that is not particularly safe or clean) and these are arguably the best rubber domes out there with such a nice solid sturdy case and form. I recently spent a couple of years at a job that I did not want to take one of my "good" mechanicals to, so I used an IBM KB-8923 (in black, too, so it didn't look like a dinosaur).

A few years ago I bought RD M for about $12-$15 assuming that I could use the key caps, but I found out that they are not compatible so I sold it for what I had paid. Do note that almost everything else is interchangeable, including, if I remember correctly, case, plates, membranes, controllers, etc. You should verify that, but it does make it worthwhile to snag one if you see it for cheap.

I have a couple of 8923s and at least one Dell Quiet Key (old ones not made in China) just for "hazardous" environmental use.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 08 April 2020, 16:40:45

Here's a rubber dome Model M


Are there fans of rubber dome Ms?


There are times that you need a less-than-excellent keyboard (eg taking it to a workplace that is not particularly safe or clean) and these are arguably the best rubber domes out there with such a nice solid sturdy case and form. I recently spent a couple of years at a job that I did not want to take one of my "good" mechanicals to, so I used an IBM KB-8923 (in black, too, so it didn't look like a dinosaur).

A few years ago I bought RD M for about $12-$15 assuming that I could use the key caps, but I found out that they are not compatible so I sold it for what I had paid. Do note that almost everything else is interchangeable, including, if I remember correctly, case, plates, membranes, controllers, etc. You should verify that, but it does make it worthwhile to snag one if you see it for cheap.

I have a couple of 8923s and at least one Dell Quiet Key (old ones not made in China) just for "hazardous" environmental use.

I had a quiet key, for years and years. Alas, most of my ancient keyboards were liquidated before I knew anything about mechanicals, as my parents wanted them gone. I'll never know for sure if I had anything interesting.

I think I would rather get a Chinesium mechanical with Outemu blues on Amazon for $30-40 than use a rubber dome, but you do make good points. Especially in parts compatibility. If nothing else, the rubber dome Ms can be cannibalized for parts and/or utilized for case mods without harming original buckling spring cases, etc.

Personally, I have been mostly rotating between my new F77, a Leading Edge DC-2014, and an F AT at two different locations at work, so I obviously don't mind a little occupational hazard. I had used some cheap refurb K70 with the stock blues for the longest time, and have a Das Pro 4 and a K65 I swapped box navies into, and a TG3 BL82 I swapped jades into, should I ever feel a need to protect my favorite boards.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: jacethesaltsculptor on Wed, 08 April 2020, 19:15:50
I got myself a Rubber Dome Model M, since I wanted one to round out the collection and the price on them is so good. (50 bucks gets you a mint perfect condition one most of the time. and you can spend less if you are willing to clean it.)

I got it for work, and was using it at work before COVID hit, and then I got a soft touch Model M which is miraculously even quieter.

I would say if you ever get the chance Maledicted, you should give a rubber dome Model M a shot. It's the best Rubber dome you'll find. (I don't know Topre, so I'm not counting them here, they may be amazing from what I hear.) Very snappy, very tactile, and pretty quiet. May not change your mind, but it's not your average RD.

That said the soft touch Model M I have is somehow even quieter, and Buckling spring so it's going into the office.

Still, point being, Maybe years from now this sort of price will make sense, but not now. Save your money (Potential reader) and get the same thing for half the cost.
Title: Re: Not-So-Great Finds
Post by: Maledicted on Thu, 09 April 2020, 16:44:49
I got myself a Rubber Dome Model M, since I wanted one to round out the collection and the price on them is so good. (50 bucks gets you a mint perfect condition one most of the time. and you can spend less if you are willing to clean it.)

I got it for work, and was using it at work before COVID hit, and then I got a soft touch Model M which is miraculously even quieter.

I would say if you ever get the chance Maledicted, you should give a rubber dome Model M a shot. It's the best Rubber dome you'll find. (I don't know Topre, so I'm not counting them here, they may be amazing from what I hear.) Very snappy, very tactile, and pretty quiet. May not change your mind, but it's not your average RD.

That said the soft touch Model M I have is somehow even quieter, and Buckling spring so it's going into the office.

Still, point being, Maybe years from now this sort of price will make sense, but not now. Save your money (Potential reader) and get the same thing for half the cost.

I have used a lot of older rubber dome boards, so I know they're much better than most of the modern ones. I think my tastes quickly abandoned rubber dome entirely even when I first got into mechanicals with Cherry MX reds. Blues were the best thing since sliced bread to me for years, but now with clicky Alps, capacitive buckling spring, and box thick clicks, even Cherry blues rub me the wrong way. I have stacks and stacks of mechanicals that I procured very cheaply, so I have no reason to revert to domes if I'm ever worried about my vintage boards. Then there's TG3, which I just mentioned again in another thread. If you snag one of those BL82s on Ebay for $30-40 shipped and swap in your switches of choice, you've got something darn near indestructible, very portable, and which basically has 0 value, so you don't have any reason to worry about possibly damaging one of the millions TG3 continues to churn out to this day. I know you guys like your battleships though. I really do want an F version of one of those monstrosities some day.