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Title: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 16 March 2018, 05:52:42
Hey GH pals & gals!
I'm excited to announce a IC for a project that's close to my heart!


(https://i.imgur.com/r5hTjdp.png)
Render by Dixie

(https://i.imgur.com/nsWbf7p.png)
Render by PyroL

(https://i.imgur.com/OUeoVku.png)
Exploded view of the case

Possible colour/material combos (https://imgur.com/a/omEfZpX)
Photos of plate options (https://imgur.com/a/Sdbej0G)
Photos of case bottom options (https://imgur.com/a/GCgzntK)

TL;DR
More
  • A 50% keyboard for people that wants to something more compact and functional than a 60%
  • Almost full keyset base kit compatibility (EVEN profile wise)
  • TMK/QMK programmabililty
  • MX & Alps compatibility
  • Sane default keymapping
  • Macro column for artisan showcasing



Why a 50%?

I've been without a mechanical keyboard for almost a year now and a during this period I've been experimeting with layouts that are suitable to my own keyboard preferences and writing style.
From previous experience I knew a 40% is nice but it's a bit too limiting for me as there's some keys that are "hidden" in a layer but that I use all the time. Also 60% is great and practical but there's
some keys that aren't used or used rarely and others that are in the wrong locations for me.

So playing around with the perfect layout I came up with this - TMO50 or "The Middle One". It's between sizes (hence the 50 in the name) and gives the advantage to have all alphas at all times but
moves other keys like the number row to a layer so it's easier to reach. Basically it's a compact 60% that's "squished" without any weird layout compromises like some 40% boards and still allowing
maximum keycap compatibility with most "base" keysets out there.

(https://i.imgur.com/bi3rLlK.png)
Default keymapping

(https://i.imgur.com/4H0ZsNA.png)
Keycap sizing


Details about GB options, materials and other features

GB dates: August
Pricing: TBA (will do a break-down with individual parts)
Quantity: 50+ boards
Proxies: TBA for US. Europe is on me.

Group buy will include:
Material options for each part:
It will be possible to order more than one of each part (for example - alu top, alu & poly bottom, brass & poly plate) but it'll be limited to 2 of each part probably, as to not over-complicate.
Prototype boards with all of these material and finish options are being made and I will update OP as soon as I get photos with the finished cases/plates.
And YES - you will be able to order each part in a different colour.

Colour options for case and plate:
COLOUR SAMPLES (https://imgur.com/a/SKFQuB0)

Colours are offered for aluminium parts ONLY. And no - there's no option of a white board unfortunately, that cannot be done with anodization.
Added images are just Pantone C codes and real life samples are still being made. Please do keep in mind that these colours and their anodized versions can be slightly different.

Physical features/highlights:

Credits:

Other info about keymapping and layout options
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Layout

Layout is designed so that there's as little compromise for right profiles as possible and that it can be fitted out with most base kits nowadays.
As I'm a touch typist and I think most of us are then right profiles win over correct letters on keycaps any day of the week and even then lettering is correct on all alphas and half of the mods.

It supports different layouts as 2 different bottom rows and 2 combinations for the middle row.

Bottom row options:
  • Split bottom row for max efficiency
  • A 6.25u spacebar for all those spacebar lovers out there!

Middle row can go two ways:
  • Regular (0.25u / 0.5u) stagger but for Ctrl/Enter you'd need to get 40% kit for right profiles (base kit would be 1.75u R3 CapsLock + 1.25u R4 Modifier).
  • Small (0.25u / 0.25u) stagger but Ctrl/Enter can be R2 Tab & \| keys so there's a slight profile difference but layout is completely base kit compatible.
Keymapping

It's the thing I'm most excited for!
As you can see the default keymapping is quite sane with not a lot of stuff divided or placed all over the place.
  • Holding down Space you'd get into a layer for your numbers and symbols that's sitting real close - home row and top row
  • Holding down FN is for all of your F keys
  • Holding down Enter gets you all of the arrows, Home/End and PgUp/PgDn
  • Left keys are macros for anything you'd like them to be + ARTISAN SHOWCASE
When I say "default" is because what's a custom board without programmability, right? It'll be TMK/QMK compatible of course!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 16 March 2018, 06:11:13
good stuff man!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vegs on Fri, 16 March 2018, 06:23:35
Very interesting layout. I'm looking forward to seeing a protoype :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: kamilakas on Fri, 16 March 2018, 06:52:43
Maybe, would buy the pcb and plate, also will be good to share with plate schematic to 3d print it like a case. I have printer, so this is the cheapest way.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: mago on Fri, 16 March 2018, 06:59:15
Really liking this layout
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 16 March 2018, 07:27:06
Maybe, would buy the pcb and plate, also will be good to share with plate schematic to 3d print it like a case. I have printer, so this is the cheapest way.

If there's enough interest in PCB only purchases than I'd make that option possible too. Thanks for the input. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 16 March 2018, 10:29:16
I really like that left column!

I really wanted a Pearl, but this might be a close 2nd!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 16 March 2018, 22:19:50
Might be interested in this depending on price. Love the keys on the left!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: lumpofunworth on Fri, 16 March 2018, 23:06:55
Dude I freaking love this! Iíve been looking for a way to optimize gaming on a 40% and I feel like this is perfect. Depending on price and timeframe Iím in. Excited for updates on this board!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 17 March 2018, 03:45:53
Might be interested in this depending on price. Love the keys on the left!
Yes, price is still unknown as I'm just getting started with prototypes and those are made locally. Once I get all a working prototype and finalize case design I'll start checking around for quotes.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 17 March 2018, 03:47:47
Dude I freaking love this! Iíve been looking for a way to optimize gaming on a 40% and I feel like this is perfect. Depending on price and timeframe Iím in. Excited for updates on this board!
Happy to hear your excitement! Really brings a joy to hear people interested. Will update here as  soon as I do anything post worthy!

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 22 March 2018, 02:58:12
Small update




Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 22 March 2018, 08:29:55
I like this a lot.  Currently on a banana split for work and there are a bunch of keys Iím not using. This layout looks well thought out, I might not even need to remapp anything!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Draic on Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:03:56
will it be USB-C or mini USB? I hope USB-C :x
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:07:21
I like this a lot.  Currently on a banana split for work and there are a bunch of keys Iím not using. This layout looks well thought out, I might not even need to remapp anything!

Thanks for the compliment! :) This layout is what I feel is "the one" for myself, have been sitting on this for a long time.

I really like the idea behind Banana Split but I couldn't figure out how would I use a split spacebar on a 60%, it would just make 60% too big. :D

Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:10:29
will it be USB-C or mini USB? I hope USB-C :x

Well, USB-C would be futureproof so I'll definitely look into it but I don't own a single device with USB-C myself. So for prototype I'm using Mini USB.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:14:57
Case update
Images of the new case design. I really like this one!
Need to work on the plate a bit though

(https://i.imgur.com/zwVF1cI.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/iLae8An.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/mB8ZF0v.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/W6fpvBa.png)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:18:49
Case update
Images of the new case design. I really like this one!
Need to work on the plate a bit though

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zwVF1cI.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iLae8An.png)

It's a bit flat. Are there plans to add optional feet to give it an angle?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:21:36
Case update
Images of the new case design. I really like this one!
Need to work on the plate a bit though

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zwVF1cI.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iLae8An.png)

It's a bit flat. Are there plans to add optional feet to give it an angle?
Yes, it's flat for now. It'll definitely be with add-on feet. Angled case is harder to manufacture so for now (prototype phase) I'm designing so I can afford the prototypes.

When I'll be happy with the design and pcb will be done, definitely will check on angled design expenses.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Draic on Thu, 22 March 2018, 17:00:57
personally I prefer flat cases
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: finn27m on Fri, 23 March 2018, 11:37:17
So want this what you planning the price to be so I can start saving https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/wink.gif
Thanks awesome layout
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: finn27m on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:15:15
Personally I like Hi Pro cases
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:24:04
So want this what you planning the price to be so I can start saving https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/wink.gif
Thanks awesome layout
Personally I like Hi Pro cases
Thanks! I'm still just prototyping so the case design isn't final but I'm all about hi pro cases. I haven't checked quotes yet (besides pcb prototypes). I would like to keep the whole project between $150-200.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:35:37
So want this what you planning the price to be so I can start saving https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/wink.gif
Thanks awesome layout
Personally I like Hi Pro cases
Thanks! I'm still just prototyping so the case design isn't final but I'm all about hi pro cases. I haven't checked quotes yet (besides pcb prototypes). I would like to keep the whole project between $150-200.

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Sweet jesus you're aiming right at the impulse buy price point. Gotta hope it takes a few months to drop  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 23 March 2018, 17:14:25
As this is a project "on the side" as in I do have a lot of stuff in my personal life I don't want to rush this but I try to do stuff regularly. Hopefully the first prototype is completed sometime in the beginning of April.

If you're interested please fill out the form as I plan to have one/two prototypes raffled when I make first working boards.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: MC Qwerty on Fri, 23 March 2018, 17:46:14
Awesome work man great layout, enervative and ergonomic just what I want!!!!! I better start saving like the price to 150-200 just below a mini van and a little above a plank Fantastic Job!
out of curiosity why not add Bluetooth?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:55:58
Awesome work man great layout, enervative and ergonomic just what I want!!!!! I better start saving like the price to 150-200 just below a mini van and a little above a plank Fantastic Job!
out of curiosity why not add Bluetooth?

The price point is where I'd like to see this but I have still yet to ask around for quotes.

About Bluetooth - firstly I'd like to keep this projects goal relatively simple as it's my first effort doing something like this. Complexity of a project asks for extra time, attention and knowledge and it adds to the end price. Secondly - planned case material is aluminium so if Bluetooth is added I'd have to figure out a way how to get a good connection through metal.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Draic on Mon, 26 March 2018, 05:51:06
Hmm I was wondering if it would look better without the fourth macro key on the left side. I think it could look better with the extended blocker, instead of the blocker and then a macro key. Then again I personally would scrap the whole side row entirely, if I could, so maybe that is just me.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Vulcan on Mon, 26 March 2018, 05:52:41
this looks soo cute!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:07:11
this looks soo cute!

Thanks Vulcan! BTW, Fusion is a damn fine case :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:48:23
UPDATE

Ok so quite a few responses are in. Around 80% of respondents have answered "Yes" or "Maybe" so that means there IS interest! That's great news!

I got some feedback about the board and it's layout I'd like to address:

I'd like to add to all the possible testers (probably one or two) that a prototype board will likely to come with either a 3D printed case or a "floating keys" case. Testers would be required to test out the layouts, key compatibility and other things.

So about the layout configurations and possible changes:

(https://i.imgur.com/47f3utQ.png)

How do you like this version? This is a mock-up and there's no work done yet to the PCB to support a "full" bottom row. Just wanted to mention that so you're aware that no PCB are ordered yet. :(

Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 27 March 2018, 11:15:34
Right so this is a mildly dumb question but are the keys on the right hand side going to be supported on the PCB or are you thinking of changing the layout of the keyboard slightly?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 27 March 2018, 11:18:39
Right so this is a mildly dumb question but are the keys on the right hand side going to be supported on the PCB or are you thinking of changing the layout of the keyboard slightly?

Which keys on the right hand side do you mean? Keys that are on the right and that full bottom row is meant as a representation of various configurations. It's been a tough day so I just didn't understand the question, sorry. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:58:33
Right so this is a mildly dumb question but are the keys on the right hand side going to be supported on the PCB or are you thinking of changing the layout of the keyboard slightly?

Which keys on the right hand side do you mean? Keys that are on the right and that full bottom row is meant as a representation of various configurations. It's been a tough day so I just didn't understand the question, sorry. :D

It's not that. The alternative layout placements look like they're going to push the alphas around or aren't sized quite right . Like the control-enter row would have the rest of the keys pushed to the right slightly while the shift row looks like it's going to have a blank space somewhere.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:57:50
Right so this is a mildly dumb question but are the keys on the right hand side going to be supported on the PCB or are you thinking of changing the layout of the keyboard slightly?

Which keys on the right hand side do you mean? Keys that are on the right and that full bottom row is meant as a representation of various configurations. It's been a tough day so I just didn't understand the question, sorry. :D

It's not that. The alternative layout placements look like they're going to push the alphas around or aren't sized quite right . Like the control-enter row would have the rest of the keys pushed to the right slightly while the shift row looks like it's going to have a blank space somewhere.
Oh. Regarding the middle row, yes. Using 1.5u Ctrl & Enter means that the whole row is staggered differently. Regarding right Shift and Fn - it's either 1u+1.25u keys ( |\ and Shift) or it's 1.25u+1u keys but nothing else changes in the row.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:28:30
I'm not opposed to the full bottom row but I definitely have no use for it.

I'm not in favor of it if it infringes on your original design or causes extra costs.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 28 March 2018, 01:56:17
I'm not opposed to the full bottom row but I definitely have no use for it.

I'm not in favor of it if it infringes on your original design or causes extra costs.
I personally too would only use the blocker version of this board but adding footprints on the pcb aren't that hard (I've made the decision to redo PCB once again for better routing) and case design will stay the same for either versions (angled front, flat case with screw-in feet)

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 28 March 2018, 13:01:56
Right so this is a mildly dumb question but are the keys on the right hand side going to be supported on the PCB or are you thinking of changing the layout of the keyboard slightly?

Which keys on the right hand side do you mean? Keys that are on the right and that full bottom row is meant as a representation of various configurations. It's been a tough day so I just didn't understand the question, sorry. :D

It's not that. The alternative layout placements look like they're going to push the alphas around or aren't sized quite right . Like the control-enter row would have the rest of the keys pushed to the right slightly while the shift row looks like it's going to have a blank space somewhere.
Oh. Regarding the middle row, yes. Using 1.5u Ctrl & Enter means that the whole row is staggered differently. Regarding right Shift and Fn - it's either 1u+1.25u keys ( |\ and Shift) or it's 1.25u+1u keys but nothing else changes in the row.

Are you doing to do two different plates for the middle row or one universal plate with the middle row "hollowed out"?

I'm not opposed to the full bottom row but I definitely have no use for it.

I'm not in favor of it if it infringes on your original design or causes extra costs.
I personally too would only use the blocker version of this board but adding footprints on the pcb aren't that hard (I've made the decision to redo PCB once again for better routing) and case design will stay the same for either versions (angled front, flat case with screw-in feet)

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I don't see the reason to have a complete bottom row with the addition of the macro keys to the left. Even without them the HHKB style layout has keys for all of the bottom row functions to be mapped once.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 28 March 2018, 13:52:05
Are you doing to do two different plates for the middle row or one universal plate with the middle row "hollowed out"?

Well, for now I've designed one universal plate but I have yet to try out it IRL once the pcbs come in. It looks weird but if a uni plate would be rigid there wouldn't be a need for two different plates.

I don't see the reason to have a complete bottom row with the addition of the macro keys to the left. Even without them the HHKB style layout has keys for all of the bottom row functions to be mapped once.

Me neither but given received form responses I wanted to discuss the possibility about a complete bottom row so people doesn't feel left out from anything. It's not set in stone but I wanted to offer my look of a WHAT IF version and get some feedback. I'm still on the fence about this support but it's good to be transparent with y'all.
For one thing current PCB design supports everything that's mentioned in OP as well as the right Shift/Fn key switch-a-roo except complete bottom row and adding "maximum" support means I would need to figure out where to place PCB components (right now they're positioned in the left blocker area). It would definitely be a tedious process.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 01 April 2018, 06:40:48
RENDERS:WIP (https://imgur.com/a/IDI4W) by PyroL
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: suntorywhisky on Mon, 02 April 2018, 07:27:24
Renders look awesome, man! Really digging this.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 02 April 2018, 09:47:24
Renders look awesome, man! Really digging this.

Thanks. I'm digging it too. Still have to figure out some case design issues but it's coming along nicely. BTW, final renders are up in the OP.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:29:32
Would it be out of place to say that I am sexually attracted to those renders?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:39:30
Would it be out of place to say that I am sexually attracted to those renders?

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

No because I'm also turned on by those renders! :p Gotta say I'm more excited for this board becoming a reality than I thought I'd be. Checking those renders everytime I check my phone. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:40:22
Would it be out of place to say that I am sexually attracted to those renders?

Username checks out

And I am in to say that this is dope, I know this was already menitoned but I would like to +1 some angle on the case, even if it adds some cost.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:41:45
I only just noticed the indicator LEDs :))

So nice!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 03 April 2018, 15:12:03
I only just noticed the indicator LEDs :))

So nice!

Thank you! Coming from you, it really means a lot! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 03 April 2018, 15:13:24
Would it be out of place to say that I am sexually attracted to those renders?

Username checks out

And I am in to say that this is dope, I know this was already menitoned but I would like to +1 some angle on the case, even if it adds some cost.

As soon as I find a shop that could make these I'll ask quotes for both a flat version and angled version. Will definitely let you all know once I get some answers. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 04 April 2018, 00:10:24
Looking forward to seeing this project come to life! Filled out the IC <3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Wed, 04 April 2018, 17:41:21
This board is too cute! I Filled out the IC - I'd love to test a prototype! Playin with firmware is totally my thing.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 05 April 2018, 01:14:53
This board is too cute! I Filled out the IC - I'd love to test a prototype! Playin with firmware is totally my thing.

Yeah, the renders does make it look cute! Will definitely do a prototype in those colours as they're starting to grow on me. :D

Looking forward to seeing this project come to life! Filled out the IC <3

Thank you for the support. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 05 April 2018, 06:36:41
I'm so into this, I've been playing with layouts on a 60% and have gotten to a point where I just don't use the top row anymore. Having those extra function keys would make a 40% daily driver even more viable (especially with an extra numpad if needs be).

Plus it looks cute as ****
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 06 April 2018, 00:10:11
This is amazing I'd love to help prototype I have been wantign to own a <60% in size and this seems amazing. I'd love it if it wasn't floating keys but it's a really cool layout regardless so i'm definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: lzlzh035 on Fri, 06 April 2018, 06:23:15
In in in
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 06 April 2018, 07:48:06
I wanted to say a big thank you all for the IC form responses and comments here as it is really motivating me to find time and work on this project more.

A bit of feedback about the process right now:

I see that there's majority of people (39.5%) that want hot-swappable sockets (as do I) but do to various layouts and my not so big knowledge in pcbs I don't think I can support Kailh sockets. Sorry about this but I'll look into Holtite sockets and the sizings to support those as it wouldn't overcomplicate PCB design.

Regarding switch LEDs (25.6%) and RGB underglow (32.6%) - I'm actively working on implementing both of these features as it's probably easier for me to support this from the get-go. About the RGB underglow and case - Bottom part of the case is slightly "lifting" the top part of the case so there'll be about 1 or 2mm spacing that'll allow for a nice RGB underglow "rim" under the board.

Also as for ALPS support - I'm using ai03 KiCad library for switch footprints and those footprints are "hybrids" as in - they support both MX and ALPS switches.

More about possible layouts that some people are mentioning in my IC responses - I truly appreciate your feedback but the layout is 100% decided on right now. Any keys that doesn't "overlay" the existing layout isn't really possible as that would mean designing a specific case for it. I will keep these IC responses for next rounds though if the GB goes well and will take your feedback into account.

Seeing that the interest on this is quite active (almost 5-6 responses each day) I'm also actively searching info about manufacturing side of things as the amount of interest is no longer just "a small batch for friends". All though I see you all as my friends  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:12:16
I wanted to say a big thank you all for the IC form responses and comments here as it is really motivating me to find time and work on this project more.

A bit of feedback about the process right now:

I see that there's majority of people (39.5%) that want hot-swappable sockets (as do I) but do to various layouts and my not so big knowledge in pcbs I don't think I can support Kailh sockets. Sorry about this but I'll look into Holtite sockets and the sizings to support those as it wouldn't overcomplicate PCB design.

Regarding switch LEDs (25.6%) and RGB underglow (32.6%) - I'm actively working on implementing both of these features as it's probably easier for me to support this from the get-go. About the RGB underglow and case - Bottom part of the case is slightly "lifting" the top part of the case so there'll be about 1 or 2mm spacing that'll allow for a nice RGB underglow "rim" under the board.

Also as for ALPS support - I'm using ai03 KiCad library for switch footprints and those footprints are "hybrids" as in - they support both MX and ALPS switches.

More about possible layouts that some people are mentioning in my IC responses - I truly appreciate your feedback but the layout is 100% decided on right now. Any keys that doesn't "overlay" the existing layout isn't really possible as that would mean designing a specific case for it. I will keep these IC responses for next rounds though if the GB goes well and will take your feedback into account.

Seeing that the interest on this is quite active (almost 5-6 responses each day) I'm also actively searching info about manufacturing side of things as the amount of interest is no longer just "a small batch for friends". All though I see you all as my friends  :-*

Thanks for the update! I can't wait to see this happen  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:17:11
I wanted to say a big thank you all for the IC form responses and comments here as it is really motivating me to find time and work on this project more.

A bit of feedback about the process right now:

I see that there's majority of people (39.5%) that want hot-swappable sockets (as do I) but do to various layouts and my not so big knowledge in pcbs I don't think I can support Kailh sockets. Sorry about this but I'll look into Holtite sockets and the sizings to support those as it wouldn't overcomplicate PCB design.

Regarding switch LEDs (25.6%) and RGB underglow (32.6%) - I'm actively working on implementing both of these features as it's probably easier for me to support this from the get-go. About the RGB underglow and case - Bottom part of the case is slightly "lifting" the top part of the case so there'll be about 1 or 2mm spacing that'll allow for a nice RGB underglow "rim" under the board.

Also as for ALPS support - I'm using ai03 KiCad library for switch footprints and those footprints are "hybrids" as in - they support both MX and ALPS switches.

More about possible layouts that some people are mentioning in my IC responses - I truly appreciate your feedback but the layout is 100% decided on right now. Any keys that doesn't "overlay" the existing layout isn't really possible as that would mean designing a specific case for it. I will keep these IC responses for next rounds though if the GB goes well and will take your feedback into account.

Seeing that the interest on this is quite active (almost 5-6 responses each day) I'm also actively searching info about manufacturing side of things as the amount of interest is no longer just "a small batch for friends". All though I see you all as my friends  :-*

eeeek thanks for the update! I spent an inordinate amount of time at work today noodling around with keymaps for this layouttt
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 06 April 2018, 11:43:56
I wanted to say a big thank you all for the IC form responses and comments here as it is really motivating me to find time and work on this project more.

A bit of feedback about the process right now:

I see that there's majority of people (39.5%) that want hot-swappable sockets (as do I) but do to various layouts and my not so big knowledge in pcbs I don't think I can support Kailh sockets. Sorry about this but I'll look into Holtite sockets and the sizings to support those as it wouldn't overcomplicate PCB design.

Regarding switch LEDs (25.6%) and RGB underglow (32.6%) - I'm actively working on implementing both of these features as it's probably easier for me to support this from the get-go. About the RGB underglow and case - Bottom part of the case is slightly "lifting" the top part of the case so there'll be about 1 or 2mm spacing that'll allow for a nice RGB underglow "rim" under the board.

Also as for ALPS support - I'm using ai03 KiCad library for switch footprints and those footprints are "hybrids" as in - they support both MX and ALPS switches.

More about possible layouts that some people are mentioning in my IC responses - I truly appreciate your feedback but the layout is 100% decided on right now. Any keys that doesn't "overlay" the existing layout isn't really possible as that would mean designing a specific case for it. I will keep these IC responses for next rounds though if the GB goes well and will take your feedback into account.

Seeing that the interest on this is quite active (almost 5-6 responses each day) I'm also actively searching info about manufacturing side of things as the amount of interest is no longer just "a small batch for friends". All though I see you all as my friends  :-*

Thanks for the update! Good job sticking to your guns as to what's possible it can be easy to get sucked into always wanting to add more more and more!

Still so excited for this.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:59:36
UPDATE

It's late and I'm quite tired so I'll keep it short.

More
(https://i.imgur.com/2zvzwnF.png)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: matt.pierce on Tue, 10 April 2018, 00:52:16
Is it too late at this point to make the split spacebar interchangeable? Overall, I'm digging everything and hope to see this come to life!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 10 April 2018, 03:19:03
Nice update!

I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind clarifying something, is this layout correct keys-wise? http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/1f8bf8115cedf52c677acf6866fe6e34

Been fiddling with different ones while at work so pls don't judge me too much on this  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 10 April 2018, 03:48:47
Nice update!

I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind clarifying something, is this layout correct keys-wise? http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/1f8bf8115cedf52c677acf6866fe6e34

Been fiddling with different ones while at work so pls don't judge me too much on this  ;)
Hey. Awesome that you're already figuring out your own key mapping! Mmm, it's a bit wrong but it means I must add a normal KLE image with key sizes. EDIT: Added in OP under "Idea" section

 Here's  (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@_backcolor=%23ffffff&name=TMO-50%20key%20sizes&background_name=PBT%20WBR&style=background-image%2F:%20url('%2F%2Fbg%2F%2Fplastic%2F%2Fpbt-wbr.png')%2F%3B&$$hashKey=094%3B%3B&@_c=%23e3d1d1&p=OEM&a:7%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&p=DCS%20R%3B&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_p=OEM%3B&=%3B&@_y:-0.050000000000000044&x:0.64&t=%231dc1f5&a:5&d:true%3B&=%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%0A%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%3B&@_y:-0.95&t=%23000000&a:7%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&w:1.25%3B&=1.25&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_w:1.75%3B&=1.75&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=1.5&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5%3B&@_t=%23000000%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&w:1.75%3B&=1.75&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_w:1.25%3B&=1.25&_x:1&w:1.25%3B&=1.25&=%3B&@_t=%23000000%3B&=&_x:1.75&t=%23171718%3B&=&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5&_w:2.25%3B&=2.25&_w:2.75%3B&=2.75&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5&=%3B&@_y:0.25&x:5.25&p=OEM%20SPACE&w:6.25%3B&=6.25&_p=OEM&w:1.25%3B&=1.25) the layout in KLE, take this and experiment! :)


Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 10 April 2018, 06:33:57
Looking great! Really digging the layout.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 10 April 2018, 06:42:36
Nice update!

I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind clarifying something, is this layout correct keys-wise? http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/1f8bf8115cedf52c677acf6866fe6e34

Been fiddling with different ones while at work so pls don't judge me too much on this  ;)
Hey. Awesome that you're already figuring out your own key mapping! Mmm, it's a bit wrong but it means I must add a normal KLE image with key sizes. EDIT: Added in OP under "Idea" section

 Here's  (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@_backcolor=%23ffffff&name=TMO-50%20key%20sizes&background_name=PBT%20WBR&style=background-image%2F:%20url('%2F%2Fbg%2F%2Fplastic%2F%2Fpbt-wbr.png')%2F%3B&$$hashKey=094%3B%3B&@_c=%23e3d1d1&p=OEM&a:7%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&p=DCS%20R%3B&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_p=OEM%3B&=%3B&@_y:-0.050000000000000044&x:0.64&t=%231dc1f5&a:5&d:true%3B&=%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%0A%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%0A%0A%3Ci%20class%2F='kb%20kb-Multimedia-Record'%3E%3C%2F%2Fi%3E%3B&@_y:-0.95&t=%23000000&a:7%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&w:1.25%3B&=1.25&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_w:1.75%3B&=1.75&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=1.5&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5%3B&@_t=%23000000%3B&=&_x:0.25&t=%23171718&w:1.75%3B&=1.75&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&=&_w:1.25%3B&=1.25&_x:1&w:1.25%3B&=1.25&=%3B&@_t=%23000000%3B&=&_x:1.75&t=%23171718%3B&=&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5&_w:2.25%3B&=2.25&_w:2.75%3B&=2.75&_w:1.5%3B&=1.5&=%3B&@_y:0.25&x:5.25&p=OEM%20SPACE&w:6.25%3B&=6.25&_p=OEM&w:1.25%3B&=1.25) the layout in KLE, take this and experiment! :)

ooh that's neat, thanks for adding that! so bad at judging that stuff by eye
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 10 April 2018, 17:31:48
Almost done with PCB routing.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 10 April 2018, 18:11:10
Almost done with PCB routing.  :cool:

Woo! Can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 11 April 2018, 10:04:34
This looks like it can be a true endgame board!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Wed, 11 April 2018, 10:53:26
This looks like it can be a true endgame board!

for me at this point endgame is defined as "the next keyboard"  :))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 12 April 2018, 05:43:39
eugh,,, ain't that the truth

I saw Norbauer's heavy-6 IC and was like "yessss endgame" and basically the very next day saw someone's cool 40% setup and starting thinking about new keebs again
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Thu, 12 April 2018, 15:01:09
Almost done with PCB routing.  :cool:

Sweet!  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Thu, 12 April 2018, 21:33:35
I like it. I'm like 10wpm on a 40% but I'd get one
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 13 April 2018, 15:00:34
Hey guys!

I've closed feedback form about the board as I'm pretty much done with this stage of the project. Thank you all for the feedback, it was truly helpful and I appreciate each and every answer. The features that's not incorporated into this version of the board is definitely put in backlog so they're not lost. :)

Schematics and PCB is done* (* - just cleaning routing a bit but it's done), re-working case design a bit to accommodate new PCB and doing some other adjustments. Everything is moving along!

Sorry if that I don't have more info about other stuff, have a lot of stuff going on outside of this project. Trying to do the hardware stuff now as I'll have a lot more work during next two weeks but I'll have time to send emails about quotes. No quotes if PCB and case design isn't done you know?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 15 April 2018, 16:45:52
Hey everybody yet again!

I've been working hard this weekend but I wanted to say that I've decided to redo the case model from scratch.

A lot of work has gone into PCB to get it as good as I possibly can make it but I did the case design after PCB v1 (before I even started this IC) and before v2 (now). As the IC has really made me see the potential of this project and with all the high quality boards coming out nowadays I see that I need to make the best product I possibly can. That means going in deep and working on every aspect of the product and thoroughly examining the details and not cutting corners. I truly believe that no one wants a half-baked keyboard especially one that's a layout of it's own.

Regarding the design seen in renders - most of it is going to stay, at least the visible side of things. Front will have the angled lip and corners will be more rounded than in the back. Things I'll try to change is the height of the overall board and bezels. I'm also thinking about the dilemma of going with a flat or an angled bottom.

With a really busy schedule for the next two weeks I can't say when I'll be done with all of this. I'll be ordering a small batch of PCBs for testing purposes this week so hopefully I'll have something to show you all next week.

It's late and I'm super tired so have sorry if there's any typos. Hope you all understand and aren't mad about any of this info.

Sincerely,
Emils
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sun, 15 April 2018, 16:55:46
Hey everybody yet again!

I've been working hard this weekend but I wanted to say that I've decided to redo the case model from scratch.

A lot of work has gone into PCB to get it as good as I possibly can make it but I did the case design after PCB v1 (before I even started this IC) and before v2 (now). As the IC has really made me see the potential of this project and with all the high quality boards coming out nowadays I see that I need to make the best product I possibly can. That means going in deep and working on every aspect of the product and thoroughly examining the details and not cutting corners. I truly believe that no one wants a half-baked keyboard especially one that's a layout of it's own.

Regarding the design seen in renders - most of it is going to stay, at least the visible side of things. Front will have the angled lip and corners will be more rounded than in the back. Things I'll try to change is the height of the overall board and bezels. I'm also thinking about the dilemma of going with a flat or an angled bottom.

With a really busy schedule for the next two weeks I can't say when I'll be done with all of this. I'll be ordering a small batch of PCBs for testing purposes this week so hopefully I'll have something to show you all next week.

It's late and I'm super tired so have sorry if there's any typos. Hope you all understand and aren't mad about any of this info.

Sincerely,
Emils

Take your time! I'd rather see a delayed great board than a rushed good one.

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: XXXXXXXX on Sun, 15 April 2018, 17:32:07
Hey everybody yet again!

I've been working hard this weekend but I wanted to say that I've decided to redo the case model from scratch.

A lot of work has gone into PCB to get it as good as I possibly can make it but I did the case design after PCB v1 (before I even started this IC) and before v2 (now). As the IC has really made me see the potential of this project and with all the high quality boards coming out nowadays I see that I need to make the best product I possibly can. That means going in deep and working on every aspect of the product and thoroughly examining the details and not cutting corners. I truly believe that no one wants a half-baked keyboard especially one that's a layout of it's own.

Regarding the design seen in renders - most of it is going to stay, at least the visible side of things. Front will have the angled lip and corners will be more rounded than in the back. Things I'll try to change is the height of the overall board and bezels. I'm also thinking about the dilemma of going with a flat or an angled bottom.

With a really busy schedule for the next two weeks I can't say when I'll be done with all of this. I'll be ordering a small batch of PCBs for testing purposes this week so hopefully I'll have something to show you all next week.

It's late and I'm super tired so have sorry if there's any typos. Hope you all understand and aren't mad about any of this info.

Sincerely,
Emils

Taking your time is great, it means my wallet can recover and the board can come out better. No pressure, you do you.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Sun, 15 April 2018, 19:22:59
I need more HiPro cases in my life!   Take your time... we already know you have a good eye.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:32:49
Hey everybody yet again!

I've been working hard this weekend but I wanted to say that I've decided to redo the case model from scratch.

A lot of work has gone into PCB to get it as good as I possibly can make it but I did the case design after PCB v1 (before I even started this IC) and before v2 (now). As the IC has really made me see the potential of this project and with all the high quality boards coming out nowadays I see that I need to make the best product I possibly can. That means going in deep and working on every aspect of the product and thoroughly examining the details and not cutting corners. I truly believe that no one wants a half-baked keyboard especially one that's a layout of it's own.

Regarding the design seen in renders - most of it is going to stay, at least the visible side of things. Front will have the angled lip and corners will be more rounded than in the back. Things I'll try to change is the height of the overall board and bezels. I'm also thinking about the dilemma of going with a flat or an angled bottom.

With a really busy schedule for the next two weeks I can't say when I'll be done with all of this. I'll be ordering a small batch of PCBs for testing purposes this week so hopefully I'll have something to show you all next week.

It's late and I'm super tired so have sorry if there's any typos. Hope you all understand and aren't mad about any of this info.

Sincerely,
Emils

I'm glad to hear stuff is going well  :)  Take your time!

About the angled/flat bottom - if you go with a flat bottom, those who want angled could maybe get some feet to pop on the case as well. Though, I think I do prefer angled myself.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Mon, 16 April 2018, 05:28:39
just here to echo what other have already said, take your time and your doing a great job keeping us updated regularly.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: matt.pierce on Mon, 16 April 2018, 08:08:19
This project has a lot of potential, you made a wise decision! You got me even more excited about this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 30 April 2018, 02:44:54
Hey guys! It's been two weeks and I'm still busy with personal matters...

BUT that does not mean that the project isn't worked on!

I've done great progress with the case design, mainly "under the hood". Redid the case from the ground up so case bezels and front height is as small as possible while accommodating great screw placement (10 total for the plate, 8 for the case). I wasn't happy with the flat version of the case as that meant it's THICC everywhere so the new case is angled, allowing to lower the front and getting an even thicker butt. All has been done with the factory tooling in mind as I've contacted them and asked for any information regarding corner radiuses, tolerances etc. Renders are in process too so you'll just have to wait a little longer for a bigger announcement. I haven't even had the time to get any 3D prints done unfortunately! :(

Prototype PCBs has been ordered and are yet to be received. Once they get here I still have to solder all the components so I can't say when will that be. While waiting on PCBs, I've played around with component placement so that I can make routing as clean as possible reducing GND "blind areas" and thus reducing vias and stuff like that.

About the pricing - I don't have a fixed number for you all though yet. I can say though that it looks like it'll be $200+. I need to crunch more numbers still as there's a lot of factors like customs and shipping expenses (both for cases and PCBs), also the packaging.

So that's a small update of how it's going! Hope everyone's doing great and that interest about this board is still there!  :thumb:


Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 30 April 2018, 08:20:52
Definitely still interested!

Put me down for one, even now! I just absolutely love the layout, and can't help buy support awesome projects like this :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: beekey on Mon, 30 April 2018, 08:59:09
Looks very nice. I will keep an eye on this.
Wishing for: angled, high profile and full bottom row.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 30 April 2018, 09:07:51
Looks very nice. I will keep an eye on this.
Wishing for: angled, high profile and full bottom row.

Angled - yes
High profile - absolutely
Full bottom row - not in round one

Thank you, definitely do! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 30 April 2018, 13:38:54
Looks very nice. I will keep an eye on this.
Wishing for: angled, high profile and full bottom row.

Angled - yes
High profile - absolutely
Full bottom row - not in round one

Thank you, definitely do! :)

You had me at Angled and high profile.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: beekey on Mon, 30 April 2018, 14:48:30
Looks very nice. I will keep an eye on this.
Wishing for: angled, high profile and full bottom row.

Angled - yes
High profile - absolutely
Full bottom row - not in round one

Thank you, definitely do! :)

OK, then I pass and wait. Canīt stand this HHKB layout. Good luck with the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: G1LL3Y on Mon, 30 April 2018, 20:21:30
Iím digging this layout especially with the QMK support and macros on the left. I will look into it if the price is reasonable. Good luck!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 01 May 2018, 01:34:24
I’m digging this layout especially with the QMK support and macros on the left. I will look into it if the price is reasonable. Good luck!  :thumb:

I apologize if you already saw but he mentioned above the current estimate of price will be $200+ 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: G1LL3Y on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:21:25
Iím digging this layout especially with the QMK support and macros on the left. I will look into it if the price is reasonable. Good luck!  :thumb:

I apologize if you already saw but he mentioned above the current estimate of price will be $200+

I appreciate the response and yeah I seen the estimated price earlier in the thread, but I think that Input Club's Kira was originally expected to be under $200 for the aluminum build and yet it was going for $260 during the GB. I just hope that the price won't increase dramatically without additional features like hot swappable pcb or something.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 01 May 2018, 13:55:58
Iím digging this layout especially with the QMK support and macros on the left. I will look into it if the price is reasonable. Good luck!  :thumb:

I apologize if you already saw but he mentioned above the current estimate of price will be $200+

I appreciate the response and yeah I seen the estimated price earlier in the thread, but I think that Input Club's Kira was originally expected to be under $200 for the aluminum build and yet it was going for $260 during the GB. I just hope that the price won't increase dramatically without additional features like hot swappable pcb or something.

ahh yeah such is the cycle in Keyboards it often can get pricey when you want a low quantity custom machined project.

Just as an aside I don't personally care at all about hot swappable pcb if that costs extra please don't add it.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 01 May 2018, 14:08:32
Hot swappable isn't going to happen. Multiple layout configurations doesn't really allow Kailh sockets and I read a bit more about Holtites (mainly a discussion on TGR-910CE) and it's not worth it, sounds like it has far more cons than pros.

Pcbs will feature RGBs for underglow and switch LEDs though, also the indicator LEDs so I've covered all bases.

Talking about the case and plate, it'll have couple of options so they're will be multiple pricings...

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:17:25
There are other hotswap socket options that can be soldered in. The US services vendor TurboKeys has them in stock for installation but won't sell them separately. I don't know the part number, I will try to ask.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:23:56
Hot swappable isn't going to happen. Multiple layout configurations doesn't really allow Kailh sockets and I read a bit more about Holtites (mainly a discussion on TGR-910CE) and it's not worth it, sounds like it has far more cons than pros.

Pcbs will feature RGBs for underglow and switch LEDs though, also the indicator LEDs so I've covered all bases.

Talking about the case and plate, it'll have couple of options so they're will be multiple pricings...

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

What kind of options funder do you mean mostly material choices? (brass vs aluminum)

Is there a plan for there to be a diffuser in this? I don't see it in any of the renders
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:11:33
Hot swappable isn't going to happen. Multiple layout configurations doesn't really allow Kailh sockets and I read a bit more about Holtites (mainly a discussion on TGR-910CE) and it's not worth it, sounds like it has far more cons than pros.

Pcbs will feature RGBs for underglow and switch LEDs though, also the indicator LEDs so I've covered all bases.

Talking about the case and plate, it'll have couple of options so they're will be multiple pricings...

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

What kind of options funder do you mean mostly material choices? (brass vs aluminum)

Is there a plan for there to be a diffuser in this? I don't see it in any of the renders

Yeah, mostly material choices.

Well, if we're talking about choices then I'll tell you. For now I'm thinking about offering:
There's no weight as it's another part that'll drive the price up, gotta draw the line somewhere...

Yes, the diffuser part - it's not so clear from the renders in OP but the "red" part actually would've been polycarbonate that's a little thicker than the "bed" it's sitting in, giving a nice lighting rim around the base like a Mechmini 2 (https://i0.wp.com/mechanicalkeyboardinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/MechMini-2-Underglow.jpg?ssl=1). Now that the bottom is angled, it'll look more like NIU mini by KBDFans (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/files/2_9386780f-6b39-4dd3-aebf-49f166be51f8.jpg?v=1500979732). Given that the base itself is a diffuser, an alu bottom would mean that there's no RGB underglow. It's a compromise of the design. I'll try and get some renders with both top/bottom combos and various angles so you can see for yourselves.

Just to keep a bit of "hype" about that new case, I'd like to mention some case sizes as I'm quite proud about what has been achieved...  Still behind Xondat on going as low as possible but lower than a lot of other boards. :cool:
   


Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 06 May 2018, 05:16:27
Finally found the time and chance (there's usually some other long-ass print going on) to start printing the new case. Should be done and in my hands tomorrow evening!  :)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/85Yd5mj.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Sun, 06 May 2018, 09:31:06
Finally found the time and chance (there's usually some other long-ass print going on) to start printing the new case. Should be done and in my hands tomorrow evening!  :)

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(https://i.imgur.com/85Yd5mj.jpg)

woop go 3D printer so that we can see what you did there :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Sun, 06 May 2018, 12:30:58
So so so excited to see this board come to life!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:03:15
Received the print yesterday, laser cut the plate today. Don't have screws on me rn so it's not screwed together but it fits together great!
Album with more pics (https://imgur.com/a/UTyIHZL)

(https://i.imgur.com/DC5nou8.jpg)

I didn't check minimal wall thickness for the printer so that's why there's those weird cutouts on the back (and backside corners).
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: lecorsair on Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:28:41
Looks amazing! Going to be the ultimate travel board.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 08 May 2018, 12:02:46
Wow that looks awesome! Are you happy with the prototype? Does this mean GB is coming soonish? :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 08 May 2018, 14:26:59
I'm loving that size and design! great progress
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 08 May 2018, 14:53:35
Looks amazing! Going to be the ultimate travel board.
Hopefully it'll make a great travel board! The slight angle doesn't make it too hefty on the back but angled case actually allows to make the front thinner.
Wow that looks awesome! Are you happy with the prototype? Does this mean GB is coming soonish? :)
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the current design. Still need to screw everything together but it'll definitely be the first working prototype board when I get the pcbs and solder components. About the GB - I'll try and get this proto done asap and even before that try and order a prototype from the factory. Don't want to run a GB without knowing the manufacture quality. I'd estimate that GB will be first part of June if all goes well.
I'm loving that size and design! great progress
Thank you! I'm truly happy with the progress and can't wait to make it available for you guys!


On a side note...
Oh, ****ty late night photos but I'd like to show how slim it actually is. Side by side with my thinkpad T460, not the slimmest laptop but you get the idea.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/19212c3e0d4cadc74489c6ea4ebffb22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/4fbff2d9c1dce536dfee21264ac7d3d3.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 08 May 2018, 15:51:53
So happy to hear it may be coming next month my wallet needs some time to recover from other keyboard endeavors.

Prototypes look awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 08 May 2018, 16:12:01
Yep I want this.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 08 May 2018, 18:23:48
These pictures are great! The case is looking awesome and I am far too excited about this little board.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Wed, 09 May 2018, 11:57:12
Prototype looks awesome  :) keep up the great work!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 09 May 2018, 15:47:38
omg the prototype looks so good!!

really excited to see it with some caps on there
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 09 May 2018, 16:03:06
These pictures are great! The case is looking awesome and I am far too excited about this little board.
That's nice to hear! I'll do my best so I don't let you down! :)
Prototype looks awesome  :) keep up the great work!
Thanks! Already doing so, everything is in process.
omg the prototype looks so good!!

really excited to see it with some caps on there
Well, I gotta be frank... I don't own a lot of keyboard stuff right now, all I got is a bunch of MX switches, a single artisan and some really bad MX keycaps from donor boards I got for free to salvage previously mentioned switches. Entered JTK Raindrop GB though so hopefully that goes without any issues. :D What I wanted to say - there won't be any pictures with caps until I get a keyset. Will try my best to figure this out though. :D Really feel bad about it as pcbs should be here any day now...

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 11 May 2018, 04:39:19
Aw dang! If I was US based I'd happily send some spare test switches/caps. Still excited, but I'll have to be patient  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 11 May 2018, 08:04:02
Aw dang! If I was US based I'd happily send some spare test switches/caps. Still excited, but I'll have to be patient  :thumb:

Thank you for the kindness. But I'm not from US but from Latvia. That's in Europe. Non the less, no need to send me anything. Everything will work out and it'll be alright.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:31:25
Hey I was scrolling some pages back to see what the price range would be. I think you said $200 but I was wondering if that is an estimate for full aluminum or full polycarb. I'm basically wondering if there will be a lower price point for all the polycarb if we choose that option. ^^
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 12 May 2018, 14:50:37
Hey I was scrolling some pages back to see what the price range would be. I think you said $200 but I was wondering if that is an estimate for full aluminum or full polycarb. I'm basically wondering if there will be a lower price point for all the polycarb if we choose that option. ^^

Hey Kellybear! :)

Yeah, pricing is still being calculated as I'm just way over my head with personal stuff but by the quotes I got from the factory, polycarb base is about ~40% cheaper than it's aluminium analogue. It's not the same for the plate though so don't  go thinking full polycarb case will be 40% cheaper than a full aluminium. But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one. I'll allow to mix&match materials so if you feel a need to get a polycarbonate case but also a alu top, it'll be possible. :)

The stuff I need to still calculate is customs and shipping for all the boards to me and that's what is holding me back to finalize the pricing. I'm extremely sorry about this...  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Sat, 12 May 2018, 14:59:13
Hey I was scrolling some pages back to see what the price range would be. I think you said $200 but I was wondering if that is an estimate for full aluminum or full polycarb. I'm basically wondering if there will be a lower price point for all the polycarb if we choose that option. ^^

Hey Kellybear! :)

Yeah, pricing is still being calculated as I'm just way over my head with personal stuff but by the quotes I got from the factory, polycarb base is about ~40% cheaper than it's aluminium analogue. It's not the same for the plate though so don't  go thinking full polycarb case will be 40% than a full aluminium. But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one. I'll allow to mix&match materials so if you feel a need to get a polycarbonate case but also a alu top, it'll be possible. :)

The stuff I need to still calculate is customs and shipping for all the boards to me and that's what is holding me back to finalize the pricing. I'm extremely sorry about this...  :-[

Hi hi hi! Thank you for the quick response. I'm looking forward to the price drops for everything. What types of materials will be available for the plate? Thanks so much for all the work you're doing!!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 12 May 2018, 15:09:30


Hey I was scrolling some pages back to see what the price range would be. I think you said $200 but I was wondering if that is an estimate for full aluminum or full polycarb. I'm basically wondering if there will be a lower price point for all the polycarb if we choose that option. ^^

Hey Kellybear! :)

Yeah, pricing is still being calculated as I'm just way over my head with personal stuff but by the quotes I got from the factory, polycarb base is about ~40% cheaper than it's aluminium analogue. It's not the same for the plate though so don't  go thinking full polycarb case will be 40% than a full aluminium. But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one. I'll allow to mix&match materials so if you feel a need to get a polycarbonate case but also a alu top, it'll be possible. :)

The stuff I need to still calculate is customs and shipping for all the boards to me and that's what is holding me back to finalize the pricing. I'm extremely sorry about this...  :-[

Hi hi hi! Thank you for the quick response. I'm looking forward to the price drops for everything. What types of materials will be available for the plate? Thanks so much for all the work you're doing!!

Mmm, the quotes I've got has been for aluminum and polycarbonate but stainless steel and brass is questionable as SS was head to head with aluminum in the the Google form I did earlier. It all comes down to MOQ and demand really.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Sat, 12 May 2018, 15:12:24


Hey I was scrolling some pages back to see what the price range would be. I think you said $200 but I was wondering if that is an estimate for full aluminum or full polycarb. I'm basically wondering if there will be a lower price point for all the polycarb if we choose that option. ^^

Hey Kellybear! :)

Yeah, pricing is still being calculated as I'm just way over my head with personal stuff but by the quotes I got from the factory, polycarb base is about ~40% cheaper than it's aluminium analogue. It's not the same for the plate though so don't  go thinking full polycarb case will be 40% than a full aluminium. But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one. I'll allow to mix&match materials so if you feel a need to get a polycarbonate case but also a alu top, it'll be possible. :)

The stuff I need to still calculate is customs and shipping for all the boards to me and that's what is holding me back to finalize the pricing. I'm extremely sorry about this...  :-[

Hi hi hi! Thank you for the quick response. I'm looking forward to the price drops for everything. What types of materials will be available for the plate? Thanks so much for all the work you're doing!!

Mmm, the quotes I've got has been for aluminum and polycarbonate but stainless steel and brass is questionable as SS was head to head with aluminum in the the Google form I did earlier. It all comes down to MOQ and demand really.

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Cool! I'm going full polycarb and I'm going to cast my own keyset for this so you have no idea how excited I am! I think my casting partner will probably do the same. :3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sat, 12 May 2018, 15:54:56
Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sat, 12 May 2018, 20:02:47
Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Machined poly-carb isn't much cheaper from what I've seen from other group buys.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sun, 13 May 2018, 04:31:34
Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Machined poly-carb isn't much cheaper from what I've seen from other group buys.

... " But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one."

That's from the man himself. Seems like base is about 40% cheaper while plates similar. Overall should come out a little cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sun, 13 May 2018, 12:59:09
Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Machined poly-carb isn't much cheaper from what I've seen from other group buys.

... " But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one."

That's from the man himself. Seems like base is about 40% cheaper while plates similar. Overall should come out a little cheaper.
Well I guess I can't read. Some of those other buys must have massive profit margins then. Either way I love the idea of a poly-carb case for travel.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:12:54


Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Machined poly-carb isn't much cheaper from what I've seen from other group buys.

... " But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one."

That's from the man himself. Seems like base is about 40% cheaper while plates similar. Overall should come out a little cheaper.
Well I guess I can't read. Some of those other buys must have massive profit margins then. Either way I love the idea of a poly-carb case for travel.

I did say that the quote for base is ~40% cheaper and the price point should be lower for an all polycarbonate board but I wouldn't say that it'll be a massive (for example $100) price difference between all polycarb and all aluminium. Plates doesn't have that big of a difference and I don't have a quote for a polycarbonate top.

GB pricing is still a mystery and not final so it's hard to say at this time. Customs and shipping is what I still need to figure out as shipping costs can't be calculated before I've not ordered anything, also I don't know how it is when you something that big (size and quantity wise). Customs are a bit easier but still depends on final sum and the people involved. I'll do my best to get a bit more concrete data by the end of next week.

Sincerely, Emils

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:15:55


Wow I had no idea polycarb would be an option I forgot about that. I think a full polycarb version of this would be awesome I'd probably do that at a lower price.
Machined poly-carb isn't much cheaper from what I've seen from other group buys.

... " But a full polycarb case will definitely be with a lower price point than alu one."

That's from the man himself. Seems like base is about 40% cheaper while plates similar. Overall should come out a little cheaper.
Well I guess I can't read. Some of those other buys must have massive profit margins then. Either way I love the idea of a poly-carb case for travel.

I did say that the quote for base is ~40% cheaper and the price point should be lower for an all polycarbonate board but I wouldn't say that it'll be a massive (for example $100) price difference between all polycarb and all aluminium. Plates doesn't have that big of a difference and I don't have a quote for a polycarbonate top.

GB pricing is still a mystery and not final so it's hard to say at this time. Customs and shipping is what I still need to figure out as shipping costs can't be calculated before I've not ordered anything, also I don't know how it is when you something that big (size and quantity wise). Customs are a bit easier but still depends on final sum and the people involved. I'll do my best to get a bit more concrete data by the end of next week.

Sincerely, Emils

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Sound great, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:31:59
Take your time man there isn't any rush  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Baron on Sun, 13 May 2018, 15:54:13
i really love this

id love to join in on buying but im not sure if that would be a wise idea for me without the pcb having hotswap sockets
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sun, 13 May 2018, 17:19:04
Agreed with other commentors. No rush.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:18:24
i really love this

id love to join in on buying but im not sure if that would be a wise idea for me without the pcb having hotswap sockets

You're not much into soldering?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:23:58
PCBs are here!

(https://i.imgur.com/mDS9sIT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GhB2whZ.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:47:51
PCBs are here!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mDS9sIT.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GhB2whZ.jpg)


Looks great! ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 14 May 2018, 15:29:01
i really love this

id love to join in on buying but im not sure if that would be a wise idea for me without the pcb having hotswap sockets

You're not much into soldering?

A lot of people are afraid of ruining their PCB when soldering.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 14 May 2018, 15:39:03
i really love this

id love to join in on buying but im not sure if that would be a wise idea for me without the pcb having hotswap sockets

You're not much into soldering?

A lot of people are afraid of ruining their PCB when soldering.
Well, it's a trade you gotta learn someday if you want a custom. Now there's more and more hotswap PCBs but soldering switches isn't rocket science. Unfortunately I can't support hotswap sockets in round 1. Maybe later I can make a "no compromise" single layout PCB with Kailh sockets...

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 14 May 2018, 19:33:56
That PCB!

- Handsome routing
- Alps support
- Breakout pins

I'm really excited for this little thing.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 15 May 2018, 08:55:25
That PCB!

- Handsome routing
- Alps support
- Breakout pins

I'm really excited for this little thing.

Mmm, which breakout pins do you mean? There's no breakout pins on those proto pcbs.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:02:28
I really like this, very unique!

Just one matter of doubt though, is that a 2u left shift? Since that really screwed keycap compatibility :P
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:07:31
I really like this, very unique!

Just one matter of doubt though, is that a 2u left shift? Since that really screwed keycap compatibility :P

No, it's 2.25u. That'd be evil of me. :D Check "Idea" section in OP, there's a image of the layout with key sizes.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:18:13
I really like this, very unique!

Just one matter of doubt though, is that a 2u left shift? Since that really screwed keycap compatibility :P

No, it's 2.25u. That'd be evil of me. :D Check "Idea" section in OP, there's a image of the layout with key sizes.

Thank god :P Good stuff :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 15 May 2018, 13:19:22
That PCB!

- Handsome routing
- Alps support
- Breakout pins

I'm really excited for this little thing.
I thought I saw a line of them on the left. I realize now those are for the indicator LEDs.
Mmm, which breakout pins do you mean? There's no breakout pins on those proto pcbs.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:19:08
Ugh, I'm such a sucker for left columns. Will definitely be keeping an eye on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: bthezebra on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:22:23
Getting more hyped for this, 40% was too little and this is looking just right :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: biip on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:27:57
it's looking really good. I may be interested ;) Nice work!
Really cute compact keeb <3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:35:26
it's looking really good. I may be interested ;) Nice work!
Really cute compact keeb <3

Haha, I can say the same thing about DSA Milkshake! :D I think that TMO-50 and DSA Milkshake is a perfect match for cuteness!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: biip on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:40:07
it's looking really good. I may be interested ;) Nice work!
Really cute compact keeb <3

Haha, I can say the same thing about DSA Milkshake! :D I think that TMO-50 and DSA Milkshake is a perfect match for cuteness!

I thought the same lmao. I need to see a render with that combo! (fruits on the left would look cool af)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:59:50
Full polycarb, brass plate. Gotta be a thing.

Great work.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: kristmascane on Thu, 17 May 2018, 08:19:02
really looking forward to this. great job so far  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 May 2018, 08:43:41
I do not how I had missed this until today. The layout is just what I may want to go the under sixty route. I did not participate in the original poll, but I strongly prefer the original design with blockers. But, it is understandable that some need the full bottom row, considering that this keyboard is small. Goodspeed.

(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 17 May 2018, 08:45:41
I do not how I had missed this until today. The layout is just what I may want to go the under sixty route. I did not participate in the original poll, but I strongly prefer the original design with blockers. But, it is understandable that some need the full bottom row, considering that this keyboard is small. Goodspeed.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)

Haha. Good to hear!

Blocker design is the only design for now so you're good!

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: zutroy on Thu, 17 May 2018, 09:36:46
ideus directed me here, and I echo everything in the above comment. Blockers are awesome, super cool project, very interested, will stay tuned  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:11:17
it's looking really good. I may be interested ;) Nice work!
Really cute compact keeb <3

Haha, I can say the same thing about DSA Milkshake! :D I think that TMO-50 and DSA Milkshake is a perfect match for cuteness!

I thought the same lmao. I need to see a render with that combo! (fruits on the left would look cool af)

I was thinking of trying to snag an extra of DSA drifter for this board... But I just saw your Weirdo kit, and I think I like those better :o 
I also like the overall smoother look of Milkshake.

Definitely going to make a great combo! 
I wish I liked DSA more... I'm still totally going to buy a set, but still :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:26:55
XDA Oblique may fit this keyboard very well. With accents included. Could someone may gracefully prepare a render with them along?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Harms on Fri, 18 May 2018, 00:00:04
Option for full bottom row please? :D

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: godinjointform on Fri, 18 May 2018, 21:13:05
Bit late to the party, but I adore the layout and look. Count on me for one when it gets to group buy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sun, 20 May 2018, 04:37:10
Wow...this is nice!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Sun, 20 May 2018, 07:32:07
Option for full bottom row please? :D

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this was already questioned in https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94675.msg2601655#msg2601655

Looks very nice. I will keep an eye on this.
Wishing for: angled, high profile and full bottom row.

Angled - yes
High profile - absolutely
Full bottom row - not in round one

Thank you, definitely do! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: le_wraith on Sun, 20 May 2018, 09:32:14
Very intrigued by this. Looks amazing and would likely make me take the leap to downsize from 60%. 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Sun, 20 May 2018, 18:05:47
Definitely going to get in on this one!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 May 2018, 18:14:01
I really appreciate the designer's intention to allow the use of standard sets with the TMO-50's layout. That makes this a great option to encourage more people to make the transition to under sixty keyboards.

(https://i.imgur.com/doa25zT.png)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: odd on Mon, 21 May 2018, 20:06:33
I must own this. I love the layout, gimme!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: jlee755 on Mon, 21 May 2018, 23:34:40
I love this board and I think this will very well be my first <60%!

How much extra room do you anticipate inside the case? If I wanted to make my own PCB in the future, for example, would there be any room for a battery, you reckon? Lithium ion, cell battery perhaps?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 22 May 2018, 06:42:25
It's pretty tight, I don't think there'd be enough room for any significant battery, unless you milled a custom pocket in the bottom case.

I'll defer to Funderburker on the official specs, but that's just my observation. (Look at how low the front of the case is in the 3D printed model!)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 22 May 2018, 06:44:08
I love this board and I think this will very well be my first <60%!

How much extra room do you anticipate inside the case? If I wanted to make my own PCB in the future, for example, would there be any room for a battery, you reckon? Lithium ion, cell battery perhaps?

This board is made precisely for people that want to go <60% without much compromise! There's almost no extra room inside the case though as it's designed to be as low and compact as possible. Bluetooth is on the to-do list for Round 2 if first round takes off though!

Definitely going to get in on this one!

It's in progress actually and I'll have some factory samples mid of June hopefully. Still have time to save up on this!

I really appreciate the designer's intention to allow the use of standard sets with the TMO-50's layout. That makes this a great option to encourage more people to make the transition to under sixty keyboards.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/doa25zT.png)


Thank you for the appreciation! Tried to design it so base kit can be used comfortably for TMO50. It'd be a shame to make a board that made people purchase a special kit just to use it! Also I can't afford GMK sets myself so making a board that meant I would need to spend even more didn't look like a good idea. :D

Very intrigued by this. Looks amazing and would likely make me take the leap to downsize from 60%. 

Thanks! Stay tuned for couple of weeks and factory samples are about be ordered.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 22 May 2018, 07:43:19
UPDATE

It's been a while but I have a few updates:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Tue, 22 May 2018, 10:30:29
Really nice about the soon running GB!
Would it possible to get the PCB files?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO-50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:06:23
UPDATE

I changed the exploded view in OP so check that out for bit more details of each part. Also let me know if you like that case color!


The beige render's color  is my preferred one.

Are the leds going to be programable? They would be very useful as layers indicators.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:10:23
UPDATE

I changed the exploded view in OP so check that out for bit more details of each part. Also let me know if you like that case color!


The beige render's color  is my preferred one.

Are the leds going to be programable? They would be very useful as layers indicators.
Thanks for the info, will keep that in mind. Just experimenting with some colours.

Yeah, indicator LEDs are programmable but they're 2◊3◊4(5?)mm THT leds. They're basically there because of layer indication. It's not like this board with have "lock" keys. :D

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:14:17
Sorry but why? Don't want to come of as rude but even though I value OS projects, TMO50 isn't one of them. As it's a custom layout with everything done by scratch I don't feel comfortable with sharing these files. Especially before a GB that's on its way.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:27:48
QMK's ACTION_LAYER_TOGGLE(layer) may provide layer locking, right? It may work great along with LED's.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Tue, 22 May 2018, 18:54:51
Sorry but why? Don't want to come of as rude but even though I value OS projects, TMO50 isn't one of them. As it's a custom layout with everything done by scratch I don't feel comfortable with sharing these files. Especially before a GB that's on its way.

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Hey funderburker
IĎm incredibly sorry if this question came across rude and made it seem as if I didnĎt want to support you and your design. To clarify: If the situation (money etc.) is right when the GB is running, I will totally join in!
The question came up in a discussion with a friend when talking about what kind of projects with customized keyboards would be cool (an the fact that his school seems to have, for lack of a better word, a Ąmachineď with which you can theoretically assemble and produce PCBs). I posted it without thinking twice about it being inappropriate when the GB didnĎt even run yet.
I know that some people in the community have a weird entitlement attitude and I myself find it often annoying. Even though I acted the same with my question, I want you to know that it was not my intention and I really appreciate the time and work you put into this awesome design!
Cheers!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:18:34
Sorry but why? Don't want to come of as rude but even though I value OS projects, TMO50 isn't one of them. As it's a custom layout with everything done by scratch I don't feel comfortable with sharing these files. Especially before a GB that's on its way.

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Hey funderburker
IĎm incredibly sorry if this question came across rude and made it seem as if I didnĎt want to support you and your design. To clarify: If the situation (money etc.) is right when the GB is running, I will totally join in!
The question came up in a discussion with a friend when talking about what kind of projects with customized keyboards would be cool (an the fact that his school seems to have, for lack of a better word, a Ąmachineď with which you can theoretically assemble and produce PCBs). I posted it without thinking twice about it being inappropriate when the GB didnĎt even run yet.
I know that some people in the community have a weird entitlement attitude and I myself find it often annoying. Even though I acted the same with my question, I want you to know that it was not my intention and I really appreciate the time and work you put into this awesome design!
Cheers!

If you want to get some PCB files for a project board you could look at the files for the GH60 here - http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/

if not there might be a couple of open source PCBs available on the forums, one of which us called the Toad (V2 is latest version) and you can find the thread/files in the Building Things Together part of the forum  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:41:20
Sorry but why? Don't want to come of as rude but even though I value OS projects, TMO50 isn't one of them. As it's a custom layout with everything done by scratch I don't feel comfortable with sharing these files. Especially before a GB that's on its way.

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A gentleman's answer. Mine would be a simple no.

------------------------- Upcoming layout:

An OG XT and DE alphas combo on the TMO50 layout. The top row is R1, because the letters can easily be typed on by touch; while the symbols are not that easy. The DE set has three symbols per key, making it more efficient for this small footprint. What do you think?

(https://i.imgur.com/GcSOqns.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: CosmosAtlas on Thu, 24 May 2018, 01:04:35
I really like this design. It have a full alpha area which is great! Would buy when it's available!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: sickbabies on Thu, 24 May 2018, 01:27:42
Registered specifically to watch this thread.

Gorgeous work, this is pretty much my endgame  :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Createboardhk on Thu, 24 May 2018, 02:11:21
It's a special layout, very interesting! I hope it's pink!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 24 May 2018, 05:27:51
------------------------- Upcoming layout:

An OG XT and DE alphas combo on the TMO50 layout. The top row is R1, because the letters can easily be typed on by touch; while the symbols are not that easy. The DE set has three symbols per key, making it more efficient for this small footprint. What do you think?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GcSOqns.jpg)


Looking hot ideus! So cool that you've thought about this and can't wait to see this keyset combo on the board! :)

Hey funderburker
IĎm incredibly sorry if this question came across rude and made it seem as if I didnĎt want to support you and your design. To clarify: If the situation (money etc.) is right when the GB is running, I will totally join in!
The question came up in a discussion with a friend when talking about what kind of projects with customized keyboards would be cool (an the fact that his school seems to have, for lack of a better word, a Ąmachineď with which you can theoretically assemble and produce PCBs). I posted it without thinking twice about it being inappropriate when the GB didnĎt even run yet.
I know that some people in the community have a weird entitlement attitude and I myself find it often annoying. Even though I acted the same with my question, I want you to know that it was not my intention and I really appreciate the time and work you put into this awesome design!
Cheers!

No problem man. It sounds like your friend is going to one heck of a cool school! :) I appreciate you giving me a detailed answer and wish you the best with trying the "machine" out. There's a bunch of OS keyboard projects out there now that customs are not only for the wealthy (probably now a lot of these :D) but also super minimal and low-cost ones. Some of which I used to understand PCB designs better. You can ai03's repos (https://github.com/ai03-2725?tab=repositories) as well RealLaugh's mentioned GH60, Toad and there's definitely some others. Do check the "Building Things Together" part of GH too!

Registered specifically to watch this thread.

Gorgeous work, this is pretty much my endgame  :D

Haha, it's an honour to be in the spotlight for you. GH has a great community btw so if you're really into mechanical keyboards, there's a lot of interesting threads here. Do follow TMO50 thread though as I'm hoping that GB could happen in about two/three weeks time.

It's a special layout, very interesting! I hope it's pink!

Definitely thinking about it.

I really like this design. It have a full alpha area which is great! Would buy when it's available!

All alphas are a MUST for myself and was one of the most important design choice for this board. Definitely nice to have a full home row. :)

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: godinjointform on Thu, 24 May 2018, 08:05:11
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GcSOqns.jpg)

What a cool idea, I'd love to see this on the TMO
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: sickbabies on Thu, 24 May 2018, 08:26:34
 (https://kle-render.herokuapp.com/api/76b6bbd0bc8c1790ad5703003f2cf758)

I think the upcoming GMK Space Cadet is a great pair with this board, how about you all?  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: jlee755 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 18:30:06
Show Image
(https://kle-render.herokuapp.com/api/76b6bbd0bc8c1790ad5703003f2cf758)


I think the upcoming GMK Space Cadet is a great pair with this board, how about you all? 
I think some thick PBTs would be fun with this one. I'm really excited to hear what it'd sound like in such a small case!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 24 May 2018, 21:46:06
No redundant symbols this time. It includes mostly OG DE DS plus 7 ANSI keys, only. I just realized that the DE's symbol pairs are totally logic:

,;
.:
-_
ī`
<>

QMX guys: Could Alt Gr behavoir, ala US-Int, be implemented? Is there a programming example available? Or, is it just another layer?

Cannot wait for this to be under my fingers. Thankyou Sir Burker for sharing this nice project with the community.

(https://i.imgur.com/NmWE55r.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BKrat5w.jpg)





Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Thu, 24 May 2018, 21:59:53
No redundant symbols this time. It includes mostly OG DE DS plus 7 ANSI keys, only. I just realized that the DE's symbol pairs are totally logic:

,;
.:
-_
ī`
<>

QMX guys: Could Alt Gr behavoir, ala US-Int, be implemented? Is there a programming example available? Or, is it just another layer?

Cannot wait for this to be under my fingers. Thankyou Sir Burker for sharing this nice project with the community.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NmWE55r.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BKrat5w.jpg)

You have the stagger for rows 2 and 3 swapped. It's a 0.25u stagger for r2 and a 0.5 stagger for r3, like on a normal layout.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:05:55
No redundant symbols this time. It includes mostly OG DE DS plus 7 ANSI keys, only. I just realized that the DE's symbol pairs are totally logic:

,;
.:
-_
ī`
<>

QMX guys: Could Alt Gr behavoir, ala US-Int, be implemented? Is there a programming example available? Or, is it just another layer?

Cannot wait for this to be under my fingers. Thankyou Sir Burker for sharing this nice project with the community.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NmWE55r.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BKrat5w.jpg)

You have the stagger for rows 2 and 3 swapped. It's a 0.25u stagger for r2 and a 0.5 stagger for r3, like on a normal layout.

I am using the second option stated in the OP:

"Middle row can go two ways:
1.Regular (0.25u / 0.5u) stagger but for Ctrl/Enter you'd need to get 40% kit for right profiles (base kit would be 1.75u R3 CapsLock + 1.25u R4 Modifier).
2.Small (0.25u / 0.25u) stagger but Ctrl/Enter can be R2 Tab & \| keys so there's a slight profile difference but layout is completely base kit compatible."

I do not want to be limited to forty kits.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 26 May 2018, 05:48:45
is there any information about the available colors yet?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 26 May 2018, 06:00:40
is there any information about the available colors yet?
I'll put those up in about a week. Four colours.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 26 May 2018, 08:13:46
is there any information about the available colors yet?
I'll put those up in about a week. Four colours.

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cool!!!

Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 26 May 2018, 12:06:27
is there any information about the available colors yet?
I'll put those up in about a week. Four colours.

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cool!!!

Thank you  ;D

Four colors! Wow! One more good point for the designer.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Mon, 28 May 2018, 00:25:39
Show Image
(https://kle-render.herokuapp.com/api/76b6bbd0bc8c1790ad5703003f2cf758)


I think the upcoming GMK Space Cadet is a great pair with this board, how about you all?  :p

Wow this set looks great on this board! I'm seriously sooooo excited for this board to become a reality. I have so many fun things I want to do with it!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Tue, 29 May 2018, 03:52:53
Waduheck. This layout is a dream, even for 40 users. *Replace a keyboard in want list with TMO50*
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 29 May 2018, 08:28:13
+1 on the pink colour request!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 29 May 2018, 12:16:30
Waduheck. This layout is a dream, even for 40 users. *Replace a keyboard in want list with TMO50*

Right?! I thought I was content with my one 40% board but then I saw this one.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 29 May 2018, 12:57:02
TMO50 has just the right amount of keys on the nicest layout with obliged blockers and a functional column. None less, it has the option for just standard keys. Right! no need for obfuscating forty sets. Insanely well thought! Stop the hype and embrace the reality. Let the forties being display items and begin using this sub-sixty a daily driver.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 29 May 2018, 14:33:34
GB starts when?   :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ParkYongSeung on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:59:28
This arrangement is great.
When is GB?
I am looking forward to it.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:00:47
BIG UPDATE

Logo

So TMO50 has finally got a logo. I really like it and think it's simple, clean and has a "flow" to it. Also it'll look pretty good in stickers form (yes, they'll be available with ALL GB orders)

More
(https://i.imgur.com/dR6gted.png)


Samples

It's been kept on the down-low for a while now but I've been chatting with a group of testers and we've organized a small batch of case/plate samples from the factory I'm planning to use. The production process is starting tomorrow and is around three weeks. Once testers receive their keyboards and do some testing (quality control etc.) I'm making a GB thread with all the details. So that means GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June.  :-[

Case colours
For now I've decided to go for 4 colours. These 4 are FINAL. Maybe 5. What do you guys think of military/olive green? :p
Also I have a question related to plate colours. I had an idea about doing darker/lighter plate colour than the case but not doing the same colour for both parts. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:03:32
BIG UPDATE

LOGO

So TMO50 has finally got a logo. I really like it and think it's simple, clean and has a "flow" to it. Also it'll look pretty good in stickers form (yes, they'll be available with ALL GB orders)

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/dR6gted.png)


Samples

It's been kept on the down-low for a while now but I've been chatting with a group of testers and we've organized a small batch of case/plate samples from the factory I'm planning to use. The production process is starting tomorrow and around three weeks. Once testers receive their keyboards and do some testing (quality control etc.) I'm making a GB thread with all the details. So that means GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June.  :-[

Case colours
For now I've decided to go for 4 colours. These 4 are FINAL. Maybe 5. What do you guys think of military/olive green? :p
  • Dark Gray (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/8402-C)
  • Silver
  • Vibrant Pink (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/219-C)
  • Raindrop Blue (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7461-C)
Also I have a question related to plate colours. I had an idea about doing darker/lighter plate colour than the case but not doing the same colour for both parts. What do you guys think?
I would love to see a military green/ olive.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:06:50
BIG UPDATE

LOGO

So TMO50 has finally got a logo. I really like it and think it's simple, clean and has a "flow" to it. Also it'll look pretty good in stickers form (yes, they'll be available with ALL GB orders)

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/dR6gted.png)


Samples

It's been kept on the down-low for a while now but I've been chatting with a group of testers and we've organized a small batch of case/plate samples from the factory I'm planning to use. The production process is starting tomorrow and is around three weeks. Once testers receive their keyboards and do some testing (quality control etc.) I'm making a GB thread with all the details. So that means GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June.  :-[

Case colours
For now I've decided to go for 4 colours. These 4 are FINAL. Maybe 5. What do you guys think of military/olive green? :p
  • Dark Gray (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/8402-C)
  • Silver
  • Vibrant Pink (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/219-C)
  • Raindrop Blue (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7461-C)
Also I have a question related to plate colours. I had an idea about doing darker/lighter plate colour than the case but not doing the same colour for both parts. What do you guys think?

Heck yeah that pink RULES. I like the idea of a lighter colour for the plate, that vibrant pink with a more pastel/pale pink plate would be cute as hell - likewise for the blue.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:13:19
BIG UPDATE

LOGO

So TMO50 has finally got a logo. I really like it and think it's simple, clean and has a "flow" to it. Also it'll look pretty good in stickers form (yes, they'll be available with ALL GB orders)

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/dR6gted.png)


Samples

It's been kept on the down-low for a while now but I've been chatting with a group of testers and we've organized a small batch of case/plate samples from the factory I'm planning to use. The production process is starting tomorrow and is around three weeks. Once testers receive their keyboards and do some testing (quality control etc.) I'm making a GB thread with all the details. So that means GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June.  :-[

Case colours
For now I've decided to go for 4 colours. These 4 are FINAL. Maybe 5. What do you guys think of military/olive green? :p
  • Dark Gray (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/8402-C)
  • Silver
  • Vibrant Pink (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/219-C)
  • Raindrop Blue (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7461-C)
Also I have a question related to plate colours. I had an idea about doing darker/lighter plate colour than the case but not doing the same colour for both parts. What do you guys think?


love the progress!

this keyboard would be coming to work with me occasionally so I can't do blue or pink.  I was hoping for something like the render.  Military/Olive Green would also work, so I hope that is an option.  Of course gray is fine but I have a few other gray keyboards so that's out (my issue, not yours of course!).  can't wait for the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:15:20
BIG UPDATE

LOGO

So TMO50 has finally got a logo. I really like it and think it's simple, clean and has a "flow" to it. Also it'll look pretty good in stickers form (yes, they'll be available with ALL GB orders)

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/dR6gted.png)


Samples

It's been kept on the down-low for a while now but I've been chatting with a group of testers and we've organized a small batch of case/plate samples from the factory I'm planning to use. The production process is starting tomorrow and is around three weeks. Once testers receive their keyboards and do some testing (quality control etc.) I'm making a GB thread with all the details. So that means GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June.  :-[

Case colours
For now I've decided to go for 4 colours. These 4 are FINAL. Maybe 5. What do you guys think of military/olive green? :p
  • Dark Gray (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/8402-C)
  • Silver
  • Vibrant Pink (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/219-C)
  • Raindrop Blue (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/7461-C)
Also I have a question related to plate colours. I had an idea about doing darker/lighter plate colour than the case but not doing the same colour for both parts. What do you guys think?

Heck yeah that pink RULES. I like the idea of a lighter colour for the plate, that vibrant pink with a more pastel/pale pink plate would be cute as hell - likewise for the blue.

Right? Also a dark gray plate for a silver board would look nice. I just like when a board has some contrast between the plate and case.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:19:21
love the progress!

this keyboard would be coming to work with me occasionally so I can't do blue or pink.  I was hoping for something like the render.  Military/Olive Green would also work, so I hope that is an option.  Of course gray is fine but I have a few other gray keyboards so that's out (my issue, not yours of course!).  can't wait for the GB!

At first I was into the render board also and I still am but unfortunately white and really light colours are hard to do with anodization and the factory only offers anodization. MAO would allow doing white boards but that's not an option right now. :(
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:55:04
At first I was into the render board also and I still am but unfortunately white and really light colours are hard to do with anodization and the factory only offers anodization. MAO would allow doing white boards but that's not an option right now. :(

I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:03:57
I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?

If green gets enough traction it's in. Basically I'm willing to do 5 colours max but 4 colours are certainly going to happen. Speaking of DSA Milkshake, it's hard to say.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:18:09
I might be in for some green as well, as long as it's a light green. Personally not a fan of the pink and blue, silver and grey are the obvious for slightly boring color options (both needed though imho).
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:47:38
I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?

If green gets enough traction it's in. Basically I'm willing to do 5 colours max but 4 colours are certainly going to happen. Speaking of DSA Milkshake, it's hard to say.
The green needs to be very dark imo with a kind of mudish tone
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:48:15
I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?

If green gets enough traction it's in. Basically I'm willing to do 5 colours max but 4 colours are certainly going to happen. Speaking of DSA Milkshake, it's hard to say.

I think the silver would look better with milkshake, it's less of a contrast between the keyset's pastely colours
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:49:52
I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?

If green gets enough traction it's in. Basically I'm willing to do 5 colours max but 4 colours are certainly going to happen. Speaking of DSA Milkshake, it's hard to say.

I think the silver would look better with milkshake, it's less of a contrast between the keyset's pastely colours
Would agree as well because dsa milks. is a very simple set (in a good way)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 30 May 2018, 10:39:04
At first I was into the render board also and I still am but unfortunately white and really light colours are hard to do with anodization and the factory only offers anodization. MAO would allow doing white boards but that's not an option right now. :(

I'm not complaining.. the layout is by far the biggest selling point for me.  that said, I have a little buyers remorse for not grabbing the M60 in sage green so this could be my redemption.  Whatever you decide is going to be awesome though... it's your baby!  What would look good with DSA Milkshake? silver or gray then?

Get both colors. Even better, get all of them and try them for yourself.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:04:53
love the progress!

this keyboard would be coming to work with me occasionally so I can't do blue or pink.  I was hoping for something like the render.  Military/Olive Green would also work, so I hope that is an option.  Of course gray is fine but I have a few other gray keyboards so that's out (my issue, not yours of course!).  can't wait for the GB!

Is your workplace really strict about keyboard colors? That seems weird...

I take my obnoxious purple board to work all the time, and right now I'm typing on a Daisy 40% with nuclear data, and some mean green underglow...

I say break the mold and tote an eye-searing pink board to work ;)

Also: Nice avatar hahaha
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:34:42
Love it and will definitely be buying one or two! I also would like to put my vote in for the military green/olive green. If you can get it close to the Sage green of the recent M60-A that would be a plus.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Wed, 30 May 2018, 13:38:18
So excited for this. Count me in for a green one also!

I agree with previous comments that the M60 sage green is a great colour -- something a little darker and more muted. Maybe something like 350C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/350-C) or 2266C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/2266-C)?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 30 May 2018, 14:04:21
Love it and will definitely be buying one or two! I also would like to put my vote in for the military green/olive green. If you can get it close to the Sage green of the recent M60-A that would be a plus.
Would like it as well to be close to the sage green  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Johnee on Wed, 30 May 2018, 14:16:07
So excited for this. Count me in for a green one also!

I agree with previous comments that the M60 sage green is a great colour -- something a little darker and more muted. Maybe something like 350C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/350-C) or 2266C (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/2266-C)?

 +1 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 30 May 2018, 19:36:46
Raindrop blue is very pretty! I have a set of JTK raindrop that I will be getting later and I'm sure they'll be a great match. Color options are looking good! I agree that the green from the M60-A was nice.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lizardsticks on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:01:08
Definitely in on this and definitely gonna put my vote in towards the potential green color.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:54:25
Looks pretty cool!  I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:04:28
Any idea on pricing yet?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: 1Weeb on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:42:06
Wasn't really into anything under 60% after I tried the Mechmini 2, but the HHKB Layout split space and 4 artisan holders on this really tempt me into getting this. So I'll probably go in on this, hope it goes through :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 30 May 2018, 23:29:09
In on this. The vibrant pink is a bit polarizing for me, and I have no sets to match the blue :( I'd be down for silver for dsa milkshake, and if possible, I'd totally be down for a vibrant pink plate (for a bit of added flair without being overwhelming). I can understand why offering mix and match plate/case colours could cause problems for MOQ numbers. If MOQ becomes a problem for plates because people are mixing and matching then maybe offer the opportunity to buy an extra plate of a different colour and have the base kit come with a plate matching that of the case color. I hope my verbal diarrhea makes sense...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Thu, 31 May 2018, 03:51:57
Down for Dark Gray probs  :p personally not a fan of green, especially if it push general price point up for any reason XD. But quite a few seem to like it
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 04:44:30
Love the discussion about colours!

POLL (https://goo.gl/forms/oA4osnyVoilvmAHv2) (Will be open for 24-48h)

Due to some discussion with testers and knowing that a pink option is trending right now but maybe not for everyone I better let you decide!

Personally I'm not really a big fan of purple myself but I'm all for getting quantity per colour up as doing a single pink board in a 50 board batch is well - dumb. If the board isn't for me of course! :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Thu, 31 May 2018, 06:21:46
Love the discussion about colours!

POLL (https://goo.gl/forms/oA4osnyVoilvmAHv2) (Will be open for 24-48h)

Due to some discussion with testers and knowing that a pink option is trending right now but maybe not for everyone I better let you decide!

Personally I'm not really a big fan of purple myself but I'm all for getting quantity per colour up as doing a single pink board in a 50 board batch is well - dumb. If the board isn't for me of course! :D

This poll is currently more difficult than my graduation exam questions
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 06:24:13
Love the discussion about colours!

POLL (https://goo.gl/forms/oA4osnyVoilvmAHv2) (Will be open for 24-48h)

Due to some discussion with testers and knowing that a pink option is trending right now but maybe not for everyone I better let you decide!

Personally I'm not really a big fan of purple myself but I'm all for getting quantity per colour up as doing a single pink board in a 50 board batch is well - dumb. If the board isn't for me of course! :D

This poll is currently more difficult than my graduation exam questions
Why? It's just colours. You like one, you choose it. BTW, I messed previously so first 11 responses are faulty. It should've been 1. Purple vs. Pink, 2. Purple options, 3. Pink options, 4. Green options but it jumped over pink options all together. :(

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 06:34:02
I've enabled editing after submission so people that chose pink one (and just other people too) can go and select the pink they like the best. Super sorry about this chaos of a poll.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Hawkfriend on Thu, 31 May 2018, 06:35:25
completed the survey, looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Thu, 31 May 2018, 06:59:00
Oh man, picking a green is super hard.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:00:55
Love the discussion about colours!

POLL (https://goo.gl/forms/oA4osnyVoilvmAHv2) (Will be open for 24-48h)

Due to some discussion with testers and knowing that a pink option is trending right now but maybe not for everyone I better let you decide!

Personally I'm not really a big fan of purple myself but I'm all for getting quantity per colour up as doing a single pink board in a 50 board batch is well - dumb. If the board isn't for me of course! :D

This poll is currently more difficult than my graduation exam questions
Why? It's just colours. You like one, you choose it. BTW, I messed previously so first 11 responses are faulty. It should've been 1. Purple vs. Pink, 2. Purple options, 3. Pink options, 4. Green options but it jumped over pink options all together. :(

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Done it now, but I suck at making decisions so its harder than when I dislike all my exam questions and do them all anyway XD
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:06:08
Oh man, picking a green is super hard.
Yup, it's more of a tone of equally nice greens. :D

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:13:28
Really into all of the softer options, definitely more so than the bright coloured ones.

Purple still sux tho ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Hawkfriend on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:29:55
found the purple options to be the easiest  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:38:02
Really into all of the softer options, definitely more so than the bright coloured ones.

Purple still sux tho ;)

Yeah, softer colours are my cup of tea. And purple sucks. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Thu, 31 May 2018, 10:18:36
The poll looks great! Really loving the variation of vibrancy when it comes to the colors. I hope people find ones that they like!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 31 May 2018, 10:42:21
There's not going to be a white option like in the render? It looks super good. That said, the color choices in the survey were nice. I preferred the more muted colors as well.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 31 May 2018, 10:54:24
There's not going to be a white option like in the render? It looks super good. That said, the color choices in the survey were nice. I preferred the more muted colors as well.

Unfortunately no, white isn't really possible to do with anodization. Found this interesting and short article (http://www.bluebuddhaboutique.com/blog/2011/09/no-white-anodized-aluminum/) about why it's not doable.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Thu, 31 May 2018, 13:49:13
There's not going to be a white option like in the render? It looks super good. That said, the color choices in the survey were nice. I preferred the more muted colors as well.

You can always cerakote it white later. Iím sure that would look nice :3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: forumusername on Thu, 31 May 2018, 22:58:08
How about black

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 01 June 2018, 03:08:21
How about black

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I want to offer different colour options and so dark gray and black are quite similar in it's core. As 5 colours would be the max, I'd much prefer to keep "default" colours to a minimum.

Speaking of which:

POLL IS CLOSED

I left it overnight and only got two more responses so I think we've reached max responses from people that are really interested in TMO50.

Some stats about the poll:
So the winners are:

PURPLE OVER PINK
Pink colour with be "Purple Haze"
Green colour will be "Subtle Sage" (Changed it as "Color-picked Sage" literally meant I just used a colour picker on a photo)

(https://i.imgur.com/WJvt2ov.png) (https://i.imgur.com/BRPQDZ5.png)

P.S. Ordering colour samples for these 5 colours NOW
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Fri, 01 June 2018, 03:28:28
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 03:34:55
Lol. I was literally in the minority for every single stat except the green.

So now do I go for a purple case and purple plate, purple case and silver plate, or silver case and purple plate for gmk plum. Need your suggestions people :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 01 June 2018, 03:37:15
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 01 June 2018, 03:48:17
I can't believe everyone would betray me like this and not vote for the exact colours I wanted  :mad:

This is gonna be a tough decision...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Fri, 01 June 2018, 04:41:01
I can't believe everyone would betray me like this and not vote for the exact colours I wanted  :mad:

This is gonna be a tough decision...

mate, at this rate I might have to buy 2 case ...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 01 June 2018, 06:16:02
why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 07:49:06


why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.

I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:00:31
That Subtle Sage is so nice...

What would I put it with though....mhmm
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:08:47
That Subtle Sage is so nice...

What would I put it with though....mhmm
9009 obviously.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:14:57
That Subtle Sage is so nice...

What would I put it with though....mhmm
9009 obviously.
Or gmk malachite if the GB goes through. Now that would be one hell of an obscenely green board.... I think I might just do this instead of sticking with boring silver hahaha
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:33:41
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:53:50
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!

Cerakote eh? All google tells me is that it's a gun thing. What's the deal?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 09:01:16
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!

Cerakote eh? All google tells me is that it's a gun thing. What's the deal?
Awesome quick summary of different surface treatments

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/8i0dzc/vendor_woodkeys_price_drop_on_big_switch_cases/dynz2we
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 01 June 2018, 09:09:49
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!

Cerakote eh? All google tells me is that it's a gun thing. What's the deal?
Awesome quick summary of different surface treatments

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/8i0dzc/vendor_woodkeys_price_drop_on_big_switch_cases/dynz2we

That's amazing! Thanks :D Hadn't really thought of adding a coating - I might go with silver with that in mind

pink cerakote? surely someone has wanted a pink gun before, it must exist...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 01 June 2018, 09:47:18
Man... missed the poll.  Good colors, though a darker purple would have been cool.  Love the green, though...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:06:40


why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.


I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

Maybe people like the color but not the kbdfans case? I donít see why they would have to stick to the kbdfans board just because that one is the same purple as the one that was chosen.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:34:50




why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.


I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

Maybe people like the color but not the kbdfans case? I donít see why they would have to stick to the kbdfans board just because that one is the same purple as the one that was chosen.

You're absolutely right with your criticism! I, for one, was not trying to imply that anyone had to stick with the 5 degree case because it is the same purple. However, I did want to see a new purple color on the market, which is why I chose to vote the way I did. But that is why we have these polls right? To gain interest, and as it turns out, popular vote always ends up winning, and in this case purple haze took the win regardless of me (us) voting for a different color. At the end of the day, it shouldn't matter why people vote the way they do, that is why we have ICs, we're not here to judge someone else's interest on the this case or their color preference. In my opinion, the conjecture you do make about people needing to stick with the 5 degree case because it is the same purple is a bit of a stretch from what has been said above from my post and invidious's post. Anyways, I don't want to side track the discussion on the TMO50, so if you feel like discussing this further feel free to pm me. Btw, there's no hurt feelings or any sort of anomosity, and I hope my post doesn't come across as such :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 11:32:28
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!

Cerakote eh? All google tells me is that it's a gun thing. What's the deal?
Awesome quick summary of different surface treatments

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/8i0dzc/vendor_woodkeys_price_drop_on_big_switch_cases/dynz2we

That's amazing! Thanks :D Hadn't really thought of adding a coating - I might go with silver with that in mind

pink cerakote? surely someone has wanted a pink gun before, it must exist...
Cerakoting seems to be very popular within the gun collector community, and because I'm Canadian, I'm not an expert on it by any means. With that being said, I don't see a reason as to why you'd have to stick with a silver anodized case if you plan to cerakote in the future. They either have to strip the anodization first before they cerakote or they can just cerakote right over it. Not sure which is correct, but either way, I don't think there would be a reason to limit yourself to a silver case, unless of course, that is the anodization color you wanted in the first place.

Anyone with more cerakoting experience please feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Fri, 01 June 2018, 11:37:33
So thatís silver, dark grey, raindrop blue, purple haze, and subtle sage? Sounds like a nice selection :3
Yes, that is correct

Welp, time for cerakote!

Cerakote eh? All google tells me is that it's a gun thing. What's the deal?
Awesome quick summary of different surface treatments

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/8i0dzc/vendor_woodkeys_price_drop_on_big_switch_cases/dynz2we

That's amazing! Thanks :D Hadn't really thought of adding a coating - I might go with silver with that in mind

pink cerakote? surely someone has wanted a pink gun before, it must exist...
Cerakoting seems to be very popular within the gun collector community, and because I'm Canadian, I'm not an expert on it by any means. With that being said, I don't see a reason as to why you'd have to stick with a silver anodized case if you plan to cerakote in the future. They either have to strip the anodization first before they cerakote or they can just cerakote right over it. Not sure which is correct, but either way, I don't think there would be a reason to limit yourself to a silver case, unless of course, that is the anodization color you wanted in the first place.

Anyone with more cerakoting experience please feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.

My friend had a board of his cerakoted. It doesnít mater what the color of the anodization is; itíll get stripped off the board before the cerakote is applied. So your guess is right :). Any color should be fine.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 01 June 2018, 14:34:04


why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.

I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

First of thank you for your opinion, no sarcasm. I'm sorry that the purple you voted for isn't the one that made the cut. I gotta say that my chosen Pantone C codes are not inspired by other boards as I don't really give a damn about purple. i just thought of a cool name for purple, google'd that ****, color-picked it from a photo, put that into a Hex to Pantone tool and then found one Pantone colour I liked. Also "Purple Haze" was the most voted for by far so I have to appreciate everyone's vote. If it was up to me (well, it is) I'd match rather do pink but that's not how polls work.

Also - who gives a damn that it's a colour of another board. It's coincidence. Now that I checked, the dark gray is EXACTLY the same that Xondat uses for his 280/220 cases. And that too is purely a coincidence. Like for real.

EDIT: Even if the Pantone C colours are the same (which I can't say is in 5 degree cases case as you all just voted for a colour I color-picked from a pot strain), there's no guarantee TMO50 ano will be finished exactly the same as those previously mentioned boards.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 14:45:16




why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.

I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

First of thank you for your opinion, no sarcasm. I'm sorry that the purple you voted for isn't the one that made the cut. I gotta say that my chosen Pantone C codes are not inspired by other boards as I don't really give a damn about purple. i just thought of a cool name for purple, google'd that ****, color-picked it from a photo, put that into a Hex to Pantone tool and then found one Pantone colour I liked. Also "Purple Haze" was the most voted for by far so I have to appreciate everyone's vote. If it was up to me (well, it is) I'd match rather do pink but that's not how polls work.

Also - who gives a damn that it's a colour of another board. It's coincidence. Now that I checked, the dark gray is EXACTLY the same that Xondat uses for his 280/220 cases. And that too is purely a coincidence. Like for real.

No hurt feelings whatsoever :) I share your feelings regarding pink as well, and just picked a purple color I liked which I felt wasn't already in the market. At the end of the day it wouldn't make a difference for me one way or another which purple is picked as that won't be the color I'll be choosing, I just wanted to contribute to the poll. Sorry if my post was misinterpreted, and the recounting ballets thing was, or at least I hoped, taken with a grain of salt. The majority has spoken, and I'm glad most people will be happy with the pantones chosen, and to those that aren't then I can only say that is how polls go.


Any updates on whether we will have the option to purchase plates of a different color than our chosen case color or alternatively whether an option will be available to purchase additional plates of a different color?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 01 June 2018, 14:52:42
Purple Haze, Subtle Sage, Dark Gary, Silver and what other color would be included?

I suggest to include pantone images to the OP to inform interested parties on the final colors chosen, with no need to dig deep in the thread.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 01 June 2018, 15:05:05
No hurt feelings whatsoever :) I share your feelings regarding pink as well, and just picked a purple color I liked which I felt wasn't already in the market. At the end of the day it wouldn't make a difference for me one way or another which purple is picked as that won't be the color I'll be choosing, I just wanted to contribute to the poll. Sorry if my post was misinterpreted, and the recounting ballets thing was, or at least I hoped, taken with a grain of salt. The majority has spoken, and I'm glad most people will be happy with the pantones chosen, and to those that aren't then I can only say that is how polls go.


Any updates on whether we will have the option to purchase plates of a different color than our chosen case color or alternatively whether an option will be available to purchase additional plates of a different color?

I take everything with a grain of salt and nothing seriously here so I'm cool with you mate!

If we're talking about options and their colours... Case and plates are gonna be an individual choice BUT my previously mentioned idea about doing one palette for case and one for plates are still a question I have to answer myself. There's probably some people that want case and plate to match but others that would like to see case and plate in similar but contrasting colours. Also doing 5 + 5 colours is a strain on the factory and that'll take longer for them to manufacture (I presume seeing what they said about testers batch). And 5 + 5 is harder to get MOQ as I'd like to have even-ish colour distribution in this GB.

Talking additional parts and their colours... Yeah, there'll also be a chance to order more than one of everything but I'd like to limit it to something like two parts per item per person. There'll be various material options so I don't want to limit people choosing just one of those. Still figuring out best practice though.

P.S. I'd have to update my OP with a more up-to-date info, right?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 01 June 2018, 15:06:36
Purple Haze, Subtle Sage, Dark Gary, Silver and what other color would be included?

I suggest to include pantone images to the OP to inform interested parties on the final colors chosen, with no need to dig deep in the thread.

Raindrop Blue.

Also yes, I think I really need to update OP with just the important info as this thread is starting to get crowded with info snippets and mini updates.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 15:25:00
No hurt feelings whatsoever :) I share your feelings regarding pink as well, and just picked a purple color I liked which I felt wasn't already in the market. At the end of the day it wouldn't make a difference for me one way or another which purple is picked as that won't be the color I'll be choosing, I just wanted to contribute to the poll. Sorry if my post was misinterpreted, and the recounting ballets thing was, or at least I hoped, taken with a grain of salt. The majority has spoken, and I'm glad most people will be happy with the pantones chosen, and to those that aren't then I can only say that is how polls go.


Any updates on whether we will have the option to purchase plates of a different color than our chosen case color or alternatively whether an option will be available to purchase additional plates of a different color?

I take everything with a grain of salt and nothing seriously here so I'm cool with you mate!

If we're talking about options and their colours... Case and plates are gonna be an individual choice BUT my previously mentioned idea about doing one palette for case and one for plates are still a question I have to answer myself. There's probably some people that want case and plate to match but others that would like to see case and plate in similar but contrasting colours. Also doing 5 + 5 colours is a strain on the factory and that'll take longer for them to manufacture (I presume seeing what they said about testers batch). And 5 + 5 is harder to get MOQ as I'd like to have even-ish colour distribution in this GB.

Talking additional parts and their colours... Yeah, there'll also be a chance to order more than one of everything but I'd like to limit it to something like two parts per item per person. There'll be various material options so I don't want to limit people choosing just one of those. Still figuring out best practice though.

P.S. I'd have to update my OP with a more up-to-date info, right?
I'm liking the additional parts method as it shouldn't affect MOQ concerns and allows for buyers to have a matching as well as a contrasting plate if they'd like. I'll leave the logistics and decision making up to you, I'm happy regardless of what you decide as long as these cases get produced!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 01 June 2018, 15:59:37


why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.


I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

Maybe people like the color but not the kbdfans case? I donít see why they would have to stick to the kbdfans board just because that one is the same purple as the one that was chosen.
I have said case in said color. My comment is more on the fact that I don't feel it looks all that great IRL. It come off as almost a pseudo pink. I feel if something is gonna be purple it needs to be PURPLE. 🤷
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Sat, 02 June 2018, 04:49:24


why you guys want purple haze? That's basically the same color as the purple kbdfans 5 degree case.


I picked vibrant purple for that reason. Tell me you picked vibrant purple too ;)
Time to count those ballets again! ;)

Maybe people like the color but not the kbdfans case? I donít see why they would have to stick to the kbdfans board just because that one is the same purple as the one that was chosen.
I have said case in said color. My comment is more on the fact that I don't feel it looks all that great IRL. It come off as almost a pseudo pink. I feel if something is gonna be purple it needs to be PURPLE. 🤷

Pseudo pink eh? How pseudo we talking?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 02 June 2018, 05:14:25
I think a purple like on gmk muted, a sort of dulled pastel purple would be nice.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 02 June 2018, 05:21:00
I think a purple like on gmk muted, a sort of dulled pastel purple would be nice.
Iíd rather get a purple to match currents sets like Violet Tendencies, Hyperfuse, Phantom, etc.


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sun, 03 June 2018, 22:26:21
Whoops the time flew by and I forgot to check this thread and missed the poll :(

I like the tone of the green a lot but I wish it were just a bit darker -- dunno how the anodization will make it look in the end though.

Also I think the green case would look excellent with a brass plate.... hint hint :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 03 June 2018, 23:58:21
Whoops the time flew by and I forgot to check this thread and missed the poll :(

I like the tone of the green a lot but I wish it were just a bit darker -- dunno how the anodization will make it look in the end though.

Also I think the green case would look excellent with a brass plate.... hint hint :D
agreed  :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 05 June 2018, 18:07:52
Whoops the time flew by and I forgot to check this thread and missed the poll :(

I like the tone of the green a lot but I wish it were just a bit darker -- dunno how the anodization will make it look in the end though.

Also I think the green case would look excellent with a brass plate.... hint hint :D
agreed  :D

+1 on the brass plate, I think I'd be real into the silver case + brass plate if it was going ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 05 June 2018, 18:35:16
Brass plates always sell really well when offered. Definitely an option that should be included.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 06 June 2018, 05:13:22
Brass plates always sell really well when offered. Definitely an option that should be included.

Whoops the time flew by and I forgot to check this thread and missed the poll :(

I like the tone of the green a lot but I wish it were just a bit darker -- dunno how the anodization will make it look in the end though.

Also I think the green case would look excellent with a brass plate.... hint hint :D
agreed  :D

+1 on the brass plate, I think I'd be real into the silver case + brass plate if it was going ;)

Brass plates are gonna be.

Sorry guys, it's exam time and have to juggle that and 100h freelance job. I'll get down to updating OP with the relevant and correct info this weekend, hopefully.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 06 June 2018, 05:26:24
Brass plates always sell really well when offered. Definitely an option that should be included.

Whoops the time flew by and I forgot to check this thread and missed the poll :(

I like the tone of the green a lot but I wish it were just a bit darker -- dunno how the anodization will make it look in the end though.

Also I think the green case would look excellent with a brass plate.... hint hint :D
agreed  :D

+1 on the brass plate, I think I'd be real into the silver case + brass plate if it was going ;)

Brass plates are gonna be.

Sorry guys, it's exam time and have to juggle that and 100h freelance job. I'll get down to updating OP with the relevant and correct info this weekend, hopefully.

All of those things seem much more important than designing a keyboard for some internet randos, it's chill  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: kmfmppl on Wed, 06 June 2018, 13:54:55


Brass plates are gonna be.

Sorry guys, it's exam time and have to juggle that and 100h freelance job. I'll get down to updating OP with the relevant and correct info this weekend, hopefully.

Good luck with the exams :) looking forward to the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:37:14
While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Hawkfriend on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:38:54
Apologies if this has been posted earlier, but do we know when gb is likely to take place
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:47:35
Apologies if this has been posted earlier, but do we know when gb is likely to take place

What we're working with so far is "GB could start beginning of July unfortunately instead of mid June."

But it's keyboards so there's no hard date/promises yet.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Hawkfriend on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:48:48
Ah ok, thanks for the update. Keyboard looks fire, excited for this!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 06 June 2018, 17:50:33
Hope it's not too extra given that the GB isn't even going yet but I ordered some cherry lock switches for some of those left hand keys  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 06 June 2018, 18:01:29
While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?

My partner and I use the HHKB JP Edition which also has a smaller stagger as well. For me, I am more comfortable with the normal stagger but he likes the smaller stagger because he has less inaccuracies when typing letters between the home row and row below it. I believe he feels he is more accurate in typing because of that small stagger because heís more heavy handed with his right hand when it comes to typing and the distance is more helpful to him. I havenít found any issue with switching between the staggers and neither hasnít my partner. It takes the same amount of time to adjust between the smaller stagger board and another board as it would with boards that have the same stagger. I think when it comes down to it, itís how you type and how comfortable you feel with the position of the keys. I plan to keep my board at a normal stagger but my partner will be doing the small stagger for himself.

Edit: typos because mobile yay
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 06 June 2018, 18:15:18


While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?

My partner and I use the HHKB JP Edition which also has a smaller stagger as well. For me, I am more comfortable with the normal stagger but he likes the smaller stagger because he has less inaccuracies when typing letters between the home row and row below it. I believe he feels he is more accurate in typing because of that small stagger because heís more heavy handed with his right hand when it comes to typing and the distance is more helpful to him. I havenít found any issue with switching between the staggers and neither hasnít my partner. It takes the same amount of time to adjust between the smaller stagger board and another board as it would with boards that have the same stagger. I think when it comes down to it, itís how you type and how comfortable you feel with the position of the keys. I plan to keep my board at a normal stagger but my partner will be doing the small stagger for himself.

Edit: typos because mobile yay

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I'm thinking the small stagger may improve my innacuraccies when typing zxcv on the bottom row, and for whatever reason, I completely forgot that the middle row for the plate is universal so I can try both to see what I like :)

Glad to hear that the adjustment between different staggered boards isn't all that bad. You should see me after I go from typing Ortho to stagger, spelling mistakes increase exponentially.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 06 June 2018, 18:42:44


While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?

My partner and I use the HHKB JP Edition which also has a smaller stagger as well. For me, I am more comfortable with the normal stagger but he likes the smaller stagger because he has less inaccuracies when typing letters between the home row and row below it. I believe he feels he is more accurate in typing because of that small stagger because heís more heavy handed with his right hand when it comes to typing and the distance is more helpful to him. I havenít found any issue with switching between the staggers and neither hasnít my partner. It takes the same amount of time to adjust between the smaller stagger board and another board as it would with boards that have the same stagger. I think when it comes down to it, itís how you type and how comfortable you feel with the position of the keys. I plan to keep my board at a normal stagger but my partner will be doing the small stagger for himself.

Edit: typos because mobile yay

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I'm thinking the small stagger may improve my innacuraccies when typing zxcv on the bottom row, and for whatever reason, I completely forgot that the middle row for the plate is universal so I can try both to see what I like :)

Glad to hear that the adjustment between different staggered boards isn't all that bad. You should see me after I go from typing Ortho to stagger, spelling mistakes increase exponentially.

I hope the stagger works out for you! I'll let you know how it goes on my partner's board as well when he uses it. He always makes mistakes when he goes between the home row and the bottom row. The biggest issue for him is hitting N and M with his pointer finger. He said he has a better time typing it when he's using the HHKB JP.

Noooo, switching between ortholinear and stagger sounds awful. I always considered getting an ortholinear board but I don't think I want to relearn how to type with it lol ><.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Wed, 06 June 2018, 19:54:38


While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?

My partner and I use the HHKB JP Edition which also has a smaller stagger as well. For me, I am more comfortable with the normal stagger but he likes the smaller stagger because he has less inaccuracies when typing letters between the home row and row below it. I believe he feels he is more accurate in typing because of that small stagger because heís more heavy handed with his right hand when it comes to typing and the distance is more helpful to him. I havenít found any issue with switching between the staggers and neither hasnít my partner. It takes the same amount of time to adjust between the smaller stagger board and another board as it would with boards that have the same stagger. I think when it comes down to it, itís how you type and how comfortable you feel with the position of the keys. I plan to keep my board at a normal stagger but my partner will be doing the small stagger for himself.

Edit: typos because mobile yay

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I'm thinking the small stagger may improve my innacuraccies when typing zxcv on the bottom row, and for whatever reason, I completely forgot that the middle row for the plate is universal so I can try both to see what I like :)

Glad to hear that the adjustment between different staggered boards isn't all that bad. You should see me after I go from typing Ortho to stagger, spelling mistakes increase exponentially.

I hope the stagger works out for you! I'll let you know how it goes on my partner's board as well when he uses it. He always makes mistakes when he goes between the home row and the bottom row. The biggest issue for him is hitting N and M with his pointer finger. He said he has a better time typing it when he's using the HHKB JP.

Noooo, switching between ortholinear and stagger sounds awful. I always considered getting an ortholinear board but I don't think I want to relearn how to type with it lol ><.

Not to derail this thread from the board at hand too far but I have been able personally to easily switch back and forth between ortho and staggered with relative ease. Takes about 10-15 minutes before i'm full speed again. Though it might be important to note I type "correctly" with all the right fingersh itting the right keys so it's not that big of a difference.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 June 2018, 20:04:55


While OP is busy with exams (good luck dude!), I'm wondering if anyone here has tried a none standard staggered board (ie. Something similar to the "small" stagger of the middle row for the TMO50)? I believe a 2u left shift gives a similar stagger for the third row? I dunno.

Anyways, the actual question, for those of you that have tried it, did you find the slight difference in stagger to affect your typing accuracy? Was it easy to get used to? Can you go back and forth between normal and small stagger without a problem?

My partner and I use the HHKB JP Edition which also has a smaller stagger as well. For me, I am more comfortable with the normal stagger but he likes the smaller stagger because he has less inaccuracies when typing letters between the home row and row below it. I believe he feels he is more accurate in typing because of that small stagger because heís more heavy handed with his right hand when it comes to typing and the distance is more helpful to him. I havenít found any issue with switching between the staggers and neither hasnít my partner. It takes the same amount of time to adjust between the smaller stagger board and another board as it would with boards that have the same stagger. I think when it comes down to it, itís how you type and how comfortable you feel with the position of the keys. I plan to keep my board at a normal stagger but my partner will be doing the small stagger for himself.

Edit: typos because mobile yay

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I'm thinking the small stagger may improve my innacuraccies when typing zxcv on the bottom row, and for whatever reason, I completely forgot that the middle row for the plate is universal so I can try both to see what I like :)

Glad to hear that the adjustment between different staggered boards isn't all that bad. You should see me after I go from typing Ortho to stagger, spelling mistakes increase exponentially.

I hope the stagger works out for you! I'll let you know how it goes on my partner's board as well when he uses it. He always makes mistakes when he goes between the home row and the bottom row. The biggest issue for him is hitting N and M with his pointer finger. He said he has a better time typing it when he's using the HHKB JP.

Noooo, switching between ortholinear and stagger sounds awful. I always considered getting an ortholinear board but I don't think I want to relearn how to type with it lol ><.

Not to derail this thread from the board at hand too far but I have been able personally to easily switch back and forth between ortho and staggered with relative ease. Takes about 10-15 minutes before i'm full speed again. Though it might be important to note I type "correctly" with all the right fingersh itting the right keys so it's not that big of a difference.

Different staggering overlaps are features of the TMO50; thus, discussing their possible effects on the user are valid and in topic. Besides, the discussion keeps the thread bumping that may attract more interested fellows. Which is good for everyone.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Wed, 06 June 2018, 20:13:00
I get that I only was referring to discussing switching back and forth between Ortho and staggered.

On topic, I have tried typing on off staggered boards before and I did not like it at all personally. Especially since with a board like this I'm going to be using it on the go/semi regularly so I want to have the stagger the exact same as a typical board. I would prefer off profile keycaps over an unusual stagger. But that's just me of course.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:12:26
I get that I only was referring to discussing switching back and forth between Ortho and staggered.

On topic, I have tried typing on off staggered boards before and I did not like it at all personally. Especially since with a board like this I'm going to be using it on the go/semi regularly so I want to have the stagger the exact same as a typical board. I would prefer off profile keycaps over an unusual stagger. But that's just me of course.

I definitely prefer off profile keycaps as well. It's comforting to know that you can switch between ortho and staggered so easily. Maybe that will convince me to try an ortho board in the future! I'm definitely happy about the ability to choose between doing the small stagger or regular stagger.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:09:31
I get that I only was referring to discussing switching back and forth between Ortho and staggered.

On topic, I have tried typing on off staggered boards before and I did not like it at all personally. Especially since with a board like this I'm going to be using it on the go/semi regularly so I want to have the stagger the exact same as a typical board. I would prefer off profile keycaps over an unusual stagger. But that's just me of course.

I definitely prefer off profile keycaps as well. It's comforting to know that you can switch between ortho and staggered so easily. Maybe that will convince me to try an ortho board in the future! I'm definitely happy about the ability to choose between doing the small stagger or regular stagger.

Agreed the more choices the more people like me with strong personal opinions can be happy :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: JJ on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:22:49
Def interested in this custom looks najs

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:35:23
Does anyone have picture of the color options that were in the poll? I missed it :( But overall something that I'd be very interested in. Any possibility of an acrylic bottom? I'm a sucker for underglow.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:41:20
Does anyone have picture of the color options that were in the poll? I missed it :( But overall something that I'd be very interested in. Any possibility of an acrylic bottom? I'm a sucker for underglow.

There will be a polycarbonate which allows for underglow!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:47:43
Does anyone have picture of the color options that were in the poll? I missed it :( But overall something that I'd be very interested in. Any possibility of an acrylic bottom? I'm a sucker for underglow.

There will be a polycarbonate which allows for underglow!
Oh I must've missed that. This is a game changer for me, thank you! Love your blanks btw ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 07 June 2018, 02:29:09
Does anyone have picture of the color options that were in the poll? I missed it :( But overall something that I'd be very interested in. Any possibility of an acrylic bottom? I'm a sucker for underglow.

There will be a polycarbonate which allows for underglow!
Oh I must've missed that. This is a game changer for me, thank you! Love your blanks btw ;)

Astrasa, nice to see you're interested. I'm about to update OP in the next couple of hours with all the newest and correct info about what colours, materials and part options will be available. There's no colour option pictures yet but I've ordered the factory to make anodized samples so I can share those with you all. :)
And yes - polycarbonate will be an option for the bottoms.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Thu, 07 June 2018, 02:39:30
Does anyone have picture of the color options that were in the poll? I missed it :( But overall something that I'd be very interested in. Any possibility of an acrylic bottom? I'm a sucker for underglow.

There will be a polycarbonate which allows for underglow!
Oh I must've missed that. This is a game changer for me, thank you! Love your blanks btw ;)

Astrasa, nice to see you're interested. I'm about to update OP in the next couple of hours with all the newest and correct info about what colours, materials and part options will be available. There's no colour option pictures yet but I've ordered the factory to make anodized samples so I can share those with you all. :)
And yes - polycarbonate will be an option for the bottoms.
Awesome to hear, hopefully my next board!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 07 June 2018, 07:35:25
UPDATED OP WITH CORRECT AND CURRENT INFO ABOUT THE GB.

Active thread members - please let me know if you see something that's been talked about and CONFIRMED by me but I've missed it. Think OP is complete though.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lumpofunworth on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:18:04
UPDATED OP WITH CORRECT AND CURRENT INFO ABOUT THE GB.

Active thread members - please let me know if you see something that's been talked about and CONFIRMED by me but I've missed it. Think OP is complete though.

Looks great man, I love the new logo! Really interesting project that I will be following!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: TennisShoeNinja on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:44:21
also loving the new logo! I look forward to this one!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:53:45
hyped for this.. I *think* I have my layout set.. at first I was thinking split but with the highest row being alpha it's not so bad to use the backspace up there.  If I use space instead of split, then I'll use right shift or right alt to be FN instead.. not sure about doing shift with FN on the right.  Hoping this will be compatible without having to add any 40% kits.

Going to get brass plate and Green - but not sure if I want green bottom or polycarbonate. 

logo, name, design, and idea is awesome.. thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:44:52
Still hyped! I think I'm going to go green and brass with a polycarbonate bottom, but eagerly awaiting anodization samples.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:00:28
Excited about this but after some thought really worried about the plate design and the amount of flex row 2 will have. Especially compared to the other rows.


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:29:07
With only 4 rows, I'm not sure it'll be that bad.
Especially when you remember there's a PCB holding everything together under there.

we will see soon, though!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:23:33
What plate material would be more comfortable to type on, at this size? I have one keyboard with Al plate which feel to stiff for my taste and one with acrylic plate that feels pretty nice. What do you recommend?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SpectreiiI on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:32:48
Quick question, was looking at the exploded view of the case and was wondering if the case actually explodes? Really cool board. The understated tones on those renders are absolutely delicious. I would love to have that keycap set to accompany it.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:44:03
Quick question, was looking at the exploded view of the case and was wondering if the case actually explodes?

Yeah, keep it away from open flame!  :eek:

Since you can mix and match top / bottom / plate, I assume the pieces are easily separable (if that's what you actually meant?)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:50:34


What plate material would be more comfortable to type on, at this size? I have one keyboard with Al plate which feel to stiff for my taste and one with acrylic plate that feels pretty nice. What do you recommend?

I don't have anything constructive per se to make deciding which plate to choose any easier for you. I do however want to chime in and give my 2 cents. While I am relatively new to the MK community (<1 year), I think this is the first time I've seen a plate with a whole row being universal and hence just being one giant cut out. Tbh, I am a little hesitant as to how this will feel, but I an definitely curious and optimistic towards it. In regards to plate material, I've heard people say brass is soft, some say hard, and others say the exact same thing about alu and SS. At the end of the day everyone's definition of hard/soft/mushy is going to be slightly different, and other factors such as switches and how hard handed they are when typing also likely influence how the plate feels to them. I really wouldn't mind the option of being able to purchase all 3 of the plates just to experiment and see which one I like better assuming that it doesn't become extremely cost prohibitive for me for this kit. Anyways, I'm really looking forward to see the pricing of everything and being able to hopefully try all 3 plates!

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:55:24


What plate material would be more comfortable to type on, at this size? I have one keyboard with Al plate which feel to stiff for my taste and one with acrylic plate that feels pretty nice. What do you recommend?

I don't have anything constructive per se to make deciding which plate to choose any easier for you. I do however want to chime in and give my 2 cents. While I am relatively new to the MK community (<1 year), I think this is the first time I've seen a plate with a whole row being universal and hence just being one giant cut out. Tbh, I am a little hesitant as to how this will feel, but I an definitely curious and optimistic towards it. In regards to plate material, I've heard people say brass is soft, some say hard, and others say the exact same thing about alu and SS. At the end of the day everyone's definition of hard/soft/mushy is going to be slightly different, and other factors such as switches and how hard handed they are when typing also likely influence how the plate feels to them. I really wouldn't mind the option of being able to purchase all 3 of the plates just to experiment and see which one I like better assuming that it doesn't become extremely cost prohibitive for me for this kit. Anyways, I'm really looking forward to see the pricing of everything and being able to hopefully try all 3 plates!

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I'd say that your comment is constructive enough. Anyways, your avi is not hard to look at.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SpectreiiI on Thu, 07 June 2018, 16:02:54
Quick question, was looking at the exploded view of the case and was wondering if the case actually explodes?

Yeah, keep it away from open flame!  :eek:

Since you can mix and match top / bottom / plate, I assume the pieces are easily separable (if that's what you actually meant?)
Nah, I meant blow the f*ck up lol. Just felt like like injecting some comic relief lol
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 07 June 2018, 16:24:09
Iíd rather have it be 2 different plates depending on the layout you choose. Iíd even consider getting a plate made myself just to have it fixed.

Another question; this wonít support BT right? Would be a nice iPad keeb ^^


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Thu, 07 June 2018, 17:01:39
The more plate options adds more complexity to the buy though makes packing/organizing it all more difficult.

I think the full cut plate will *fingers crossed* feel good simply because all three axis of motion will be controlled for.

The mounting holes on the pcb mount switches limit rotation of the switch in the slot and movement in the x axis left/right in the slot.
The top/bottom of the cutouts will ensure the switch still "clips" in controlling up/down movement like a normal plate.

The only potential negative effect on the feel would be an overall "springy" ness due to lack of structural support along the row. That will have to be seen once the prototypes arrive.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: meepmeep on Thu, 07 June 2018, 17:04:48
Ooh I like this design!

But yeah no bluetooth, I guess I'm a wire snob now.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 08 June 2018, 08:50:44
Thet "Elemento" keyboard on Zfrontier had a "half-plate"
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/products/Elemento_FR-87_IC_W1.jpg?v=1518985694
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/products/FR_87_Half_Plate_Black.jpg?v=1518985684)

So I don't think it will be as bad as you're expecting.
I don't think they'd make a decision like that for such a fancy board if it'd make it feel like typing on little keycap-shaped turds.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 June 2018, 10:58:44
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: flameray on Fri, 08 June 2018, 13:26:44
Haha this keeb looks adorable for some reason
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 08 June 2018, 15:49:22
(https://i.imgur.com/bi3rLlK.png)

Forgot if I asked before  :-[ but is there a reason that the bottom row is asymmetric? The blocker on the left is 1.5u while the blocker on the right seems 2.5u.

Other than this, if the bezels are more 'robust' this would look kickass!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 08 June 2018, 15:53:25
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Forgot if I asked before  :-[ but is there a reason that the bottom row is asymmetric? The blocker on the left is 1.5u while the blocker on the right seems 2.5u.

Other than this, if the bezels are more 'robust' this would look kickass!
Because that makes it HHKB-esque. 🤷
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 08 June 2018, 16:31:14
Hey guys!

Was a busy week and so couldn't jump into the discussions earlier.

So regarding the big home row cutout - well, it looks weird but it's due to the layout support. I've designed the plate fixture points so that it's sturdy screwed down and also you have to keep in mind that there's a PCB with PCB mount switch support. I assure you that it'll be fine and not "out of control" flexy as the switches sits on and fits into a PCB that's robust enough. It just looks a bit weird, yes. Also switches clip in the plate so they are both fixed to the plate and the PCB. BTW, there's only 1mm gap between the bottom part of the case and switch pins so even you smashthat like button the keys, there's not a lot of room underneath.

About the asymmetric bottom. Yes, it's HHKB-esque but it stems from my typing style and preference. I've owned two boards - a 40% and an HHKB. The 40% had a full bottom row and it was pain for me to use the corner keys for stuff like layers or even standard mods. When I used an HHKB, I completely didn't miss corner keys and also it just felt more natural not to do some weird stretches and curls with my pinkies. Why it's not symmetric? Well, while designing the layout I checked where my thumbs are located and so my left thumb is just under "V" and my right (which isn't used unless I type on a 40%)  is located in between but slightly to the right under "N" and "M" keys. So if I shift the bottom row and make it symmetrical, it's just not comfortable for me anymore.

Also thank YOU ALL all for the activity and quality discussion. I truly am grateful for the activity this thread is getting and am more than surprised to see this board getting that much attention given it's size, layout and idea. I never imagined that this project would become something so serious and gather so much interest by the community. I can't wait to make this a reality for you. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 08 June 2018, 17:30:26
Well make it happen then and quickly :P


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 08 June 2018, 17:37:37
Why it's not symmetric? Well, while designing the layout I checked where my thumbs are located and so my left thumb is just under "V" and my right (which isn't used unless I type on a 40%)  is located in between but slightly to the right under "N" and "M" keys. So if I shift the bottom row and make it symmetrical, it's just not comfortable for me anymore.

Just wanted to highlight the reason I am so excited for this this has been exactly what I've experienced with keyboards as well.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Fri, 08 June 2018, 17:51:24
I will be buying into this GB when available for alum top/bottom, pcb, and brass plate (and stickers, duh)!  Very well thought out and a beautiful looking render. 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 June 2018, 18:52:52
Why it's not symmetric? Well, while designing the layout I checked where my thumbs are located and so my left thumb is just under "V" and my right (which isn't used unless I type on a 40%)  is located in between but slightly to the right under "N" and "M" keys. So if I shift the bottom row and make it symmetrical, it's just not comfortable for me anymore.

Just wanted to highlight the reason I am so excited for this this has been exactly what I've experienced with keyboards as well.


Let the peasants the symetry. Off-centered is for prince's eyes.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Fri, 08 June 2018, 19:40:31
The update looks great! Very informative. Hopefully the company gets back to you about anodized samples so we can see a comparison between the pantone coloring and the anodizing.

Definitely want to chime in that the bottom row asymmetry is preferable for me as well.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: whytwokay on Fri, 08 June 2018, 20:01:05
Can't wait for the GB! The colors look great! They're all pretty unique, and it'll be a tough decision picking just one ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: meepmeep on Fri, 08 June 2018, 21:25:13
Im totally in for green
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: godinjointform on Fri, 08 June 2018, 22:36:05
Glad you're sticking to your vision, funder. Part of what makes the board so attractive is that it doesn't conform to what most small boards look like, while allowing for the keycap/artisan customization that a lot of us cherish so dearly  ;D
Can't wait to see how the color samples come out!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 08 June 2018, 23:42:01
Why it's not symmetric? Well, while designing the layout I checked where my thumbs are located and so my left thumb is just under "V" and my right (which isn't used unless I type on a 40%)  is located in between but slightly to the right under "N" and "M" keys. So if I shift the bottom row and make it symmetrical, it's just not comfortable for me anymore.

Thanks for explaining the thought process behind this. Maybe it was a little ambiguous the way I put it. I was thinking if, while keeping the spacebar where it is, we can have two keys on both sides of the spacebar. If itís because you wanted fewer keys at the corner for better reachability, I totally appreciate that decision too.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: jlee755 on Sat, 09 June 2018, 01:32:17
As the others have said, I respect that you've decided to stick to your design preferences! Looking forward to the buy.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sat, 09 June 2018, 02:23:47
Thank YOU for bringing this concept to us and putting so much work in, Funderburker. I really appreciated hearing your design motivations too. This is such an engaging project -- can't wait to see it come to fruition!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: kmfmppl on Sat, 09 June 2018, 11:25:57
Green + brass, gonna be glorious :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Ammomruoy on Mon, 11 June 2018, 10:13:30
Little cute keyboard. I'm in :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 11 June 2018, 10:49:53
Not sure how I missed this IC before, but now that I've seen it I want in! :thumb: I love the design of this board & think it would make for a fun project. Any word on a US proxy yet?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Mon, 11 June 2018, 14:15:01
Been stalking lil tmo since the beginning, can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Mon, 11 June 2018, 17:24:30
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 June 2018, 17:29:37
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.


Share a picture, so the guys can share their opinions.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Mon, 11 June 2018, 17:39:41
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.


Share a picture, so the guys can share their opinions.

It's pink on white! I'm still waiting for it to arrive from originative  :( but here's someone else's album featuring a nice artisan: https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ8mO
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Mon, 11 June 2018, 20:27:00
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.


Share a picture, so the guys can share their opinions.

It's pink on white! I'm still waiting for it to arrive from originative  :( but here's someone else's album featuring a nice artisan: https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ8mO

I think the silver or the dark grey would be great options for this keyset!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lizardsticks on Tue, 12 June 2018, 07:35:34
Yeah so I'm thinking I'll be grabbing Subtle Sage, Brass Plate and the Polycarb bottom.

It's also perfect for me that the GB date was pushed to early/mid July cuz I get paid end of June  ;D.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 12 June 2018, 07:48:36
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.


Share a picture, so the guys can share their opinions.

It's pink on white! I'm still waiting for it to arrive from originative  :( but here's someone else's album featuring a nice artisan: https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ8mO

I think the silver or the dark grey would be great options for this keyset!

I was leaning towards silver, but dark grey is a real good call I kinda forgot about it
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:53:24
Okay y'all help me choose. Which colour do you reckon would go best with enjoypbt valentine and stuff? 

At the moment I'm thinking just silver because it's gonna go with everything, but I really can't decide.


Share a picture, so the guys can share their opinions.

It's pink on white! I'm still waiting for it to arrive from originative  :( but here's someone else's album featuring a nice artisan: https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ8mO (https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ8mO)

I think the silver or the dark grey would be great options for this keyset!

I was leaning towards silver, but dark grey is a real good call I kinda forgot about it


The grays are neutral and elegant colors, maybe a bit boring but in a nice way.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Tue, 12 June 2018, 14:38:53
Agreed. I like a more "boring" and muted color on the case when your caps already provide the flair. Add too much flair and you get Laser  :))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 12 June 2018, 14:55:01
Imho neutral and toned down colors are always the right approach for keyboards. Personally I wouldn't match a lot of keycap sets with grey though, rather have a silver keyboard. Matches with more sets if you ask me.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 June 2018, 15:17:51
Agree with you both guys. I am of the boring type as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Tue, 12 June 2018, 15:19:41
will be going for silver. xda rams alphas are going to be on mine
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rensuya on Tue, 12 June 2018, 20:02:51
Down for Silver or Sage.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Tue, 12 June 2018, 20:09:25
I really, really want a small run of GMK9009 for this board as rendered by PyroL.  It looks really slick.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rensuya on Tue, 12 June 2018, 20:12:22
I really, really want a small run of GMK9009 for this board as rendered by PyroL.  It looks really slick.

I was just thinking 9009 would look great on this  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 14 June 2018, 22:56:00
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 15 June 2018, 09:56:36
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree

While it may be unnecessary, there is definitely IMO different feel to typing on a plate vs typing on a PCB, especially if the plate is built into the case.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 15 June 2018, 22:16:02
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree

While it may be unnecessary, there is definitely IMO different feel to typing on a plate vs typing on a PCB, especially if the plate is built into the case.

Of course, there is a difference with-vs-no-plate boards. However, plate materials make no difference when it is top mounted in a rigid aluminum frame, like the TMO.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 15 June 2018, 23:05:26
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree

While it may be unnecessary, there is definitely IMO different feel to typing on a plate vs typing on a PCB, especially if the plate is built into the case.

Of course, there is a difference with-vs-no-plate boards. However, plate materials make no difference when it is top mounted in a rigid aluminum frame, like the TMO.

I actually disagree.  The flex of the plate is even more accentuated when it's top mounted.  Steel, Carbon Fiber, and Brass are very stiff (But even those three are different feeling because the material absorbs the bottom out impact) compared to polycarbonate and aluminum. 

Also the sound changes. 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Sat, 16 June 2018, 12:21:35
Which materials are everyone planning for each part?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: xondat on Sat, 16 June 2018, 12:25:45
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree

While it may be unnecessary, there is definitely IMO different feel to typing on a plate vs typing on a PCB, especially if the plate is built into the case.

Of course, there is a difference with-vs-no-plate boards. However, plate materials make no difference when it is top mounted in a rigid aluminum frame, like the TMO.

They make a massive difference. Steel, Carbon Fiber, Aluminum, Brass, and Polycarbonate all have different feelings.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 16 June 2018, 12:59:51
I have 2 Tina cases, one with a brass plate one with a stainless steel. There is a real difference in feel between them.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 16 June 2018, 13:07:39
I have 2 Tina cases, one with a brass plate one with a stainless steel. There is a real difference in feel between them.
can you describe it?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 16 June 2018, 13:08:43
Wanted to update everyone with some real evidence that something's happening! :D

These are the sample or prototype (actually Founders Edition) TMO50's that are currently produced in China. Should have some more updates in next couple of weeks and then finished boards in July. If all is well, GB will start as soon as Founders do quality control and approve. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/1EO5xM9.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Sat, 16 June 2018, 13:29:21
exciting! thanks for the sneak peek funder
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 16 June 2018, 13:45:55
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

agree

While it may be unnecessary, there is definitely IMO different feel to typing on a plate vs typing on a PCB, especially if the plate is built into the case.

Of course, there is a difference with-vs-no-plate boards. However, plate materials make no difference when it is top mounted in a rigid aluminum frame, like the TMO.

They make a massive difference. Steel, Carbon Fiber, Aluminum, Brass, and Polycarbonate all have different feelings.

Thank you for getting my point.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sat, 16 June 2018, 14:09:48
The importance of a plate has been overhyped and therefore exagerated. A simple basic PCB is more than satisfactory as a support for typing, mechanically-wise. There is no engineering reason to use a superstrong material for a keyboard plate, while the load it should be stand against to is as low as fingers typing. Plastics are widely used in automotive and aerospace applications even in mechanically demanding applications, that it is hilarious to be concern by an acrylic plate in such small device that will be holded by an strong aluminum frame.  :thumb:


Edit: Unless you have hammers instead of fingers...

That is an incredibly opinionated statement to make, and I for one can say I absolutely despise the feeling of a plate-less build. It may be "satisfactory" for you, but I can't even type on one without feeling the urge to toss it accross the room. Even an aluminum plate has far too much flex for me tastes.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 16 June 2018, 16:03:21
I have 2 Tina cases, one with a brass plate one with a stainless steel. There is a real difference in feel between them.
can you describe it?

The SS has more bounce to them. Now to be fair, there is also a difference in switches (tealios on the ss versus box blacks on the brass plate), but even with that in mind I can feel a difference. Brass feels way more solid to me.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 16 June 2018, 16:04:07
Wanted to update everyone with some real evidence that something's happening! :D

These are the sample or prototype (actually Founders Edition) TMO50's that are currently produced in China. Should have some more updates in next couple of weeks and then finished boards in July. If all is well, GB will start as soon as Founders do quality control and approve. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1EO5xM9.jpg)


Awesome news!

Maybe I've missed it, but do you have any idea what the price would be approximately?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 June 2018, 16:56:57
Wanted to update everyone with some real evidence that something's happening! :D

These are the sample or prototype (actually Founders Edition) TMO50's that are currently produced in China. Should have some more updates in next couple of weeks and then finished boards in July. If all is well, GB will start as soon as Founders do quality control and approve. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1EO5xM9.jpg)


Awesome news!

Maybe I've missed it, but do you have any idea what the price would be approximately?


It has not been defined yet. As far as I know.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Bleddyn on Mon, 18 June 2018, 08:56:05
This is the first GB i have seriously considered entering, i just like the look of it and its almost a meme in design, but the best designed meme i have seen and i like it a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 18 June 2018, 09:00:37
This is the first GB i have seriously considered entering, i just like the look of it and its almost a meme in design, but the best designed meme i have seen and i like it a lot.
It's been a while since I've received both a compliment and a diss at the same time. :D It's an honour to be your cherry popper, mate!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Aerizu on Mon, 18 June 2018, 17:10:03
Is the plate design already final? Or are you considering separate plate design for those who want a fixed home row layout?

Overall, I think it is quite interesting, specially the layout.
I have never thought I'd be interested with anything smaller than 60% but here I am waiting for the GB. XD

50% is really an interesting choice. I tried playing around with this layout in KLE and have made a few variations that I really like. Maybe we'll get a 50% uprising someday. Haha  :))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 June 2018, 17:51:03
This is the first GB i have seriously considered entering, i just like the look of it and its almost a meme in design, but the best designed meme i have seen and i like it a lot.
It's been a while since I've received both a compliment and a diss at the same time. :D It's an honour to be your cherry popper, mate!


is an insult in disguise a compliment?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 18 June 2018, 22:04:48
Wanted to update everyone with some real evidence that something's happening! :D

These are the sample or prototype (actually Founders Edition) TMO50's that are currently produced in China. Should have some more updates in next couple of weeks and then finished boards in July. If all is well, GB will start as soon as Founders do quality control and approve. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1EO5xM9.jpg)


It looks great man!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SingSong on Tue, 19 June 2018, 15:46:05
I really love this design, and am hoping the cost isn't out of my budget. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Wed, 20 June 2018, 08:58:09
Lovely board! one of the most creative keeb I've ever seen. Hoping can join the GB when it's available.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 20 June 2018, 11:40:54
Can't wait to see the prototypes! Should be a good design! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: sickbabies on Wed, 20 June 2018, 16:26:35
Those founders' editions look gorgeous! I'll sell off all of my other keebs to purchase this beauty when the GB starts
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 June 2018, 03:39:33
Everything's moving along!

(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 21 June 2018, 03:43:53
:O That's so cool!!!!

I can't wait to see an assembled version  :D :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 21 June 2018, 04:14:01
Yay, thanks for more progress shots! Looks great.

Any idea at what point we might see anodization samples for the different colour choices?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 June 2018, 05:37:32
Yay, thanks for more progress shots! Looks great.

Any idea at what point we might see anodization samples for the different colour choices?
Well, it'll be done once these get anodized. Samples are different from these boards though so proto boards are gonna one-offs.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 21 June 2018, 06:08:46
How LED's light bleeding will be prevented?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 21 June 2018, 07:24:32
I just had a tiny freak out this morning - Is this project going to be a raffle? or will everyone who wants one be able to join?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: QiuFang on Thu, 21 June 2018, 10:30:00
Everything's moving along!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)


that led too sexy  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lecorsair on Thu, 21 June 2018, 11:58:14
Everything's moving along!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)


Looks amazing, I can already see the final product in my mind looking at the samples. Nicely run IC btw, with updates and responsive to feedbacks. Will the Founders edition units be available to people who are willing to beta test(paying for the unit of course)?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:08:03
Everything's moving along!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)


Looks amazing, I can already see the final product in my mind looking at the samples. Nicely run IC btw, with updates and responsive to feedbacks. Will the Founders edition units be available to people who are willing to beta test(paying for the unit of course)?

Based on the previous stuff in the thread, i think founders units have already been allocated to some testers based on the original IC form stuff, sadly :( I'd have loved to get in on one otherwise
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:17:01
Sad to hear. As someone whoís never used a 40% and canít imagine living without numbers I would be a perfect tester


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:43:14
They look so good! drool
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:53:37
Everything's moving along!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)


Looks amazing, I can already see the final product in my mind looking at the samples. Nicely run IC btw, with updates and responsive to feedbacks. Will the Founders edition units be available to people who are willing to beta test(paying for the unit of course)?
Everything's moving along!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/klXvJwa.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XDuVxT1.jpg)


Looks amazing, I can already see the final product in my mind looking at the samples. Nicely run IC btw, with updates and responsive to feedbacks. Will the Founders edition units be available to people who are willing to beta test(paying for the unit of course)?

Based on the previous stuff in the thread, i think founders units have already been allocated to some testers based on the original IC form stuff, sadly :( I'd have loved to get in on one otherwise
Sad to hear. As someone whoís never used a 40% and canít imagine living without numbers I would be a perfect tester


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Yes, I've already chosen founders aka testers for these prototype boards. Some were RNGed and some was close friends that were eager to help out with manufacturing costs. This has allowed me to make every option at least in one piece so to check. I'm sorry if someone's left out. But I guarantee that GB isn't a raffle. And also not really a FCFS thing. It'll be limited but I don't think this board will "fly off the shelf" that quick.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Snappo on Thu, 21 June 2018, 13:15:59
Firstly I'd like to say I wasn't too into this at first, but I've come to like it more and more every time I see it.

It gives me the same vibes as something like the Pearl. Its on the edge of usability for me, but its so novel and I want it because its so unique.

Forgive me if this has been talked about/confirmed, is this alps compatible?

If so, will there be problems with the middle row and alps switches clipping in? Dont they rely on the side clips mostly? With that gaping hole in the plate that is the middle row, I'm a little concerned. Someone correct me if necessary.

How will alps stabs work with this?

Other than that, looking good. :thumb:


Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 June 2018, 14:07:52
How LED's light bleeding will be prevented?


Well, LEDs come right up to the indicator hole. But I'll have to test it out still.


I just had a tiny freak out this morning - Is this project going to be a raffle? or will everyone who wants one be able to join?


It's not a raffle, don't worry. :)


This is the first GB i have seriously considered entering, i just like the look of it and its almost a meme in design, but the best designed meme i have seen and i like it a lot.
It's been a while since I've received both a compliment and a diss at the same time. :D It's an honour to be your cherry popper, mate!


is an insult in disguise a compliment?


Hmm, I didn't think of it as an insult. Hope it's not, lol


Is the plate design already final? Or are you considering separate plate design for those who want a fixed home row layout?

Overall, I think it is quite interesting, specially the layout.
I have never thought I'd be interested with anything smaller than 60% but here I am waiting for the GB. XD

50% is really an interesting choice. I tried playing around with this layout in KLE and have made a few variations that I really like. Maybe we'll get a 50% uprising someday. Haha  :))

We'll test it out still and get some feedback from the testers. It's the only plate design as of yet but quite a lot people aren't really sure about it. It's done this way though as it allows base kit support as well as 40% kits. It's for maximum compatibility.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 21 June 2018, 14:16:05
It's hard for me not to gum up this thread with how excited I am about this board... it's not just a cool looking novelty board for me, it's pretty much my dream layout for travel and work trips that I intend to use for a very long time.  Minimal (with a little flair), compact, useful, and well thought out.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Thu, 21 June 2018, 14:21:42
So when do I get to throw my money at you?  Also a second plea for someone to co-launch the keyset shows in PyroL's render!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 21 June 2018, 20:54:49
Sorry if I missed it, but how tall is this compared to the Pearl?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 22 June 2018, 00:17:52
Sorry if I missed it, but how tall is this compared to the Pearl?
I can't answer that unfortunately. I tried looking up Pearl's dimensions but couldn't find it. Width wise this is definitely wider. Height wise I'm pretty certain TMO is lower but again I don't really know. Some testers have a Pearl too so will ask for comparison pics.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 22 June 2018, 00:29:06
So when do I get to throw my money at you?  Also a second plea for someone to co-launch the keyset shows in PyroL's render!
With epbt 9009 base colors coming out so well, it shouldn't be that hard to organize a comparatively less expensive GB using epbt vs gmk blanks.

You should do it ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: rioc on Fri, 22 June 2018, 02:51:02
defo interested in where this is going :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 22 June 2018, 07:13:32
Sorry if I missed it, but how tall is this compared to the Pearl?
I can't answer that unfortunately. I tried looking up Pearl's dimensions but couldn't find it. Width wise this is definitely wider. Height wise I'm pretty certain TMO is lower but again I don't really know. Some testers have a Pearl too so will ask for comparison pics.


You could provide dimensions for the TMO and let the people do their own homework. Doing it for them is just an uneccesary burden that there is no reason for you to be loaded with.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Fri, 22 June 2018, 08:29:13
Sweet !! Can't wait for the GB go live!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Starius on Fri, 22 June 2018, 10:00:54
I've been lurking in this thread, and I have to say it's the most active of threads I've been watching lately.
I didn't actually think I'd want a 50% board, but I've come to want one in my collection.... and I hope this board becomes that one. I have to admit, I'm very curious to work with it to see if it's a format I could grow accustomed to.
The board looks awesome, regardless.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 22 June 2018, 10:29:01
Sorry if I missed it, but how tall is this compared to the Pearl?
I can't answer that unfortunately. I tried looking up Pearl's dimensions but couldn't find it. Width wise this is definitely wider. Height wise I'm pretty certain TMO is lower but again I don't really know. Some testers have a Pearl too so will ask for comparison pics.


You could provide dimensions for the TMO and let the people do their own homework. Doing it for them is just an uneccesary burden that there is no reason for you to be loaded with.

This is fine by me. I only ask because the Pearl is kinda tall and chunky looking. Looking back at the prototype photos this is probably quite a bit slimmer. Actual measurements would be nice though.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 22 June 2018, 10:47:44
Sorry if I missed it, but how tall is this compared to the Pearl?
I can't answer that unfortunately. I tried looking up Pearl's dimensions but couldn't find it. Width wise this is definitely wider. Height wise I'm pretty certain TMO is lower but again I don't really know. Some testers have a Pearl too so will ask for comparison pics.


You could provide dimensions for the TMO and let the people do their own homework. Doing it for them is just an uneccesary burden that there is no reason for you to be loaded with.

This is fine by me. I only ask because the Pearl is kinda tall and chunky looking. Looking back at the prototype photos this is probably quite a bit slimmer. Actual measurements would be nice though.

No problemo, dimensions are - 297.5mm ◊ 89.15mm ◊ 25.21mm (Back) / 16.3mm (Front)  (Width ◊ Depth ◊ Height)

Added this to the OP too! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 22 June 2018, 11:04:27
Wow I didn't realize it was 16.3mm in the front that's pretty low! Love it!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ALKAHEST on Tue, 26 June 2018, 09:05:58
Wow, this looks amazing! I'm gonna have a hard time deciding between KUMO and this. It's gonna come down to release date and pricing (though perhaps I'll buy both anyway).
I'm looking forward to seeing the completed prototypes!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 27 June 2018, 21:33:39
Wow, this looks amazing! I'm gonna have a hard time deciding between KUMO and this. It's gonna come down to release date and pricing (though perhaps I'll buy both anyway).
I'm looking forward to seeing the completed prototypes!


(https://i.imgur.com/cFPkaoN.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: mclow85 on Thu, 28 June 2018, 17:55:37
i would buy this case imidialy if it was for a split kekyboard and would have a wrist rest
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 29 June 2018, 06:56:32
i would buy this case imidialy if it was for a split kekyboard and would have a wrist rest

'I would buy this keyboard if it was actually a different keyboard'
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 29 June 2018, 07:01:14
i would buy this case imidialy if it was for a split kekyboard and would have a wrist rest

'I would buy this keyboard if it was actually a different keyboard'
Yes, I would agree that that sounds like a different board. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 June 2018, 10:22:32
i would buy this case imidialy if it was for a split kekyboard and would have a wrist rest

'I would buy this keyboard if it was actually a different keyboard'
Yes, I would agree that that sounds like a different board. :D


I confess that I sin father: I had very sarcastic thoughts the first time I read that "I would buy" comment.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 03 July 2018, 15:36:04
If someone's not in the loop -

GH HAS BEEN SOLD

I'm trying to see where this goes as it sure as hell is not something nice. What are you guys thinking of doing with this - where you'd go? I'd like to have a small discussion for this as I'd like to keep an update on this and already find a "plan B" for this IC. I'm fine with posting on reddit (as I should and will do with GB) but it's really a place with a short life span for posts. I truly enjoy the GH community and people that are here and also everywhere else in this forum.

Related to the IC:
We should have finished anodization late this week or early next week so it's really close guys. Also we've received red PCBs for the founders and i gotta say... Way sexier than the green ones.

(https://i.imgur.com/voS7jqt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ydDpVbw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xgaj38e.jpg)


Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:10:16
If someone's not in the loop -

GH HAS BEEN SOLD

I'm trying to see where this goes as it sure as hell is not something nice. What are you guys thinking of doing with this - where you'd go? I'd like to have a small discussion for this as I'd like to keep an update on this and already find a "plan B" for this IC. I'm fine with posting on reddit (as I should and will do with GB) but it's really a place with a short life span for posts. I truly enjoy the GH community and people that are here and also everywhere else in this forum.

Related to the IC:
We should have finished anodization late this week or early next week so it's really close guys. Also we've received red PCBs for the founders and i gotta say... Way sexier than the green ones.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/voS7jqt.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydDpVbw.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xgaj38e.jpg)

Sorry funder, I dont want to go too off topic from the tmo50, but I thought zeal bought GH?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:12:44
It hasn't been sold yet.  Nothing's concrete other than Zeal is out of the running.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:14:38
It hasn't been sold yet.  Nothing's concrete other than Zeal is out of the running.
Ty for update. Back to TMO.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:18:52
Think the prototypes look pretty good. Still interested to this point  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lizardsticks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:21:32
That red is looking fantastic. Looking forward to the GB going live in the future

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:24:30
If someone's not in the loop -

GH HAS BEEN SOLD

I'm trying to see where this goes as it sure as hell is not something nice. What are you guys thinking of doing with this - where you'd go? I'd like to have a small discussion for this as I'd like to keep an update on this and already find a "plan B" for this IC. I'm fine with posting on reddit (as I should and will do with GB) but it's really a place with a short life span for posts. I truly enjoy the GH community and people that are here and also everywhere else in this forum.

Related to the IC:
We should have finished anodization late this week or early next week so it's really close guys. Also we've received red PCBs for the founders and i gotta say... Way sexier than the green ones.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/voS7jqt.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydDpVbw.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xgaj38e.jpg)

Hello, beautiful, where have you been all my life?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:39:07
I am not sure if GH has been sold already; but, if that may affect your project, I'd say move it to your preferred alternate forum. I am not familiar with rMK. I know DT and GH only, but any one you preferred it would be OK, as long as your upcoming GB is preserved as it is, in terms of design, prices and everything else. The TMO50 is so cool that it deserves to be run as an actual community GB. Thank you for asking.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:51:40
If someone's not in the loop -

GH HAS BEEN SOLD

I'm trying to see where this goes as it sure as hell is not something nice. What are you guys thinking of doing with this - where you'd go? I'd like to have a small discussion for this as I'd like to keep an update on this and already find a "plan B" for this IC. I'm fine with posting on reddit (as I should and will do with GB) but it's really a place with a short life span for posts. I truly enjoy the GH community and people that are here and also everywhere else in this forum.

Related to the IC:
We should have finished anodization late this week or early next week so it's really close guys. Also we've received red PCBs for the founders and i gotta say... Way sexier than the green ones.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/voS7jqt.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydDpVbw.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xgaj38e.jpg)


Damn that PCB is sexy.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lizardsticks on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:56:26
Let's just move to 4chan and funder can keep sending us nsfw pics of the tmo50

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ALKAHEST on Tue, 03 July 2018, 23:43:03
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 04 July 2018, 00:35:21
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 04 July 2018, 02:45:39
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

Learn to solder! The level of skill you need to solder a keyboard from a kit is not super high and if it's for personal use then tbh you don't need to worry about how neat it is as long as it works.

I'd suggest getting like a little macropad kit or something cheap to practice on and learn! It's a super useful skill to have.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: parityb1t on Wed, 04 July 2018, 03:26:44
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

Still puts on smile on my face everytime I remember this is a EU-based GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 04 July 2018, 03:41:19
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

How about Asia? :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ALKAHEST on Wed, 04 July 2018, 06:13:07
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

I'm located in the Netherlands.


Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

Learn to solder! The level of skill you need to solder a keyboard from a kit is not super high and if it's for personal use then tbh you don't need to worry about how neat it is as long as it works.

I'd suggest getting like a little macropad kit or something cheap to practice on and learn! It's a super useful skill to have.

A macropad, I'll definitely keep that in mind! Soldering a board is probably way less intimidating than I am assuming, so something small to try it out on might dissolve my anxiety. Thanks!



Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 04 July 2018, 06:14:28
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

I'm located in the Netherlands.


Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.
Well, I don't think I'll offer this option as GB will have a proxy for US so offering this means putting strain on my proxy. But there's a lot of community members that offer keyboard assembling. I have not checked pricings though. Where are you located?

Learn to solder! The level of skill you need to solder a keyboard from a kit is not super high and if it's for personal use then tbh you don't need to worry about how neat it is as long as it works.

I'd suggest getting like a little macropad kit or something cheap to practice on and learn! It's a super useful skill to have.

A macropad, I'll definitely keep that in mind! Soldering a board is probably way less intimidating than I am assuming, so something small to try it out on might dissolve my anxiety. Thanks!
If you're soldering a pcb and it's just switches than it's really simple and basic.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 July 2018, 17:09:50
Loving the look of that red PCB. Can't wait for the next update!

Would you consider offering a fully built option (switches/LEDs soldered in) for the GB?
I'd love to get myself a TMO50, though I'm not confident I'll be able to build one myself (never soldered before, don't want to screw it up).
I don't want to get KUMO over this just because it has hot-swap sockets.


Soldering switches is very easy. They are pass trough so you just need to put a drop of solder at each contact, that's it. There are good tutorials at youtube that may help you to get a good idea about it.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 04 July 2018, 17:45:11
Since the founders PCB is red what color is the general GB's PCB going to be?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 04 July 2018, 22:20:41
Sounds like Massdrop (now officially the buyer) will keep things like they are now and not change things for a while so we should be good.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 July 2018, 22:22:53
It seems that the GB for our beloved TMO50 can be hosted at GH, with no forseable risks.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 04 July 2018, 23:04:56
Since the founders PCB is red what color is the general GB's PCB going to be?
Well, red is definitely one of the nicest colours so it's probably gonna stay for the GB too. :)
Sounds like Massdrop (now officially the buyer) will keep things like they are now and not change things for a while so we should be good.
It seems that the GB for our beloved TMO50 can be hosted at GH, with no forseable risks.
Yes, long live MDxGH. Nice to see our life's spared for now. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 06 July 2018, 15:13:25
Just wondering if the beginning to mid July GB date is still the plan?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 07 July 2018, 02:46:05
How about Asia? :)

I should look into it. Hadn't thought about it previously but it does make sense.

Just wondering if the beginning to mid July GB date is still the plan?

I'm still waiting on "founder" boards as well colour samples for the real GB. There was some delays with anodization so hopefully that gets done next week. After then it's still about a week for shipping boards from the factory to founders. So unfortunately it's not looking like mid of July anymore. I've tried to nudge the factory but they're super busy and there's some waiting time. I can share something cool though with you so you know it's moving along. Received this photo just this morning. :) And yes, that's a polycarbonate top...

(https://i.imgur.com/qZkuyIO.png)

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 July 2018, 12:44:54
Interested in a PC top. Is it going to be a GB's option?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Sat, 07 July 2018, 18:18:05
Interested in a PC top. Is it going to be a GB's option?

The factory was really reluctant to make the PC top due to fears of warping during machining. Some of the people in the founders edition bought one anyway just to see how it would turn out. I wouldn't bet on them being available for the general GB though.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 July 2018, 18:22:09
Interested in a PC top. Is it going to be a GB's option?

The factory was really reluctant to make the PC top due to fears of warping during machining. Some of the people in the founders edition bought one anyway just to see how it would turn out. I wouldn't bet on hem being available for the general GB though.


Yeah, that makes sense. Alu would be great, though. No worries.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 07 July 2018, 22:37:32
Interested in a PC top. Is it going to be a GB's option?

The factory was really reluctant to make the PC top due to fears of warping during machining. Some of the people in the founders edition bought one anyway just to see how it would turn out. I wouldn't bet on them being available for the general GB though.
Sad face.

Understandable though.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 07 July 2018, 23:51:05
No MD please :( Because it does not ship to my country *cry in the corner*

Btw, I prefer Alu top and PC bot for led diffuse effectiveness :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 08 July 2018, 00:43:36
Yeah, we'll have to see how the poly tops come out and everything but it's more an experiment right now so I don't guarantee it being a GB option.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 11 July 2018, 18:24:53
Yeah, we'll have to see how the poly tops come out and everything but it's more an experiment right now so I don't guarantee it being a GB option.

I would love to buy an additional poly bottom if they are available in the gb
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Wed, 11 July 2018, 22:33:17
Depending on price I might need to pick two of these up if possible, but that sage colour is calling to me.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 July 2018, 09:36:03
Depending on price I might need to pick two of these up if possible, but that sage colour is calling to me.

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+1, I may need two as well. My daily drivers are two now. One at home. One at the office. I should have the same with the TMO, if I want to master the new layout. Therfore, I am hoping for this to be affordable, enough to be able to get two.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 12 July 2018, 15:28:07
This will be one interesting board! I can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: EricArts on Thu, 12 July 2018, 16:25:51
Really like the 4 buttons bar on the left, very original
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SteffeMK on Thu, 12 July 2018, 17:01:26
Will this have a limited order quantity, and also any updates?

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Fri, 13 July 2018, 11:36:55
Yeah I also need two for the same purpose, need those silent switches at the office.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 13 July 2018, 11:47:55
I thought I would be the only one getting 2 haha.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 13 July 2018, 12:11:49
The OP may consider a discount for orders of two or more.  :p


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:41:10
Yeah, we'll have to see how the poly tops come out and everything but it's more an experiment right now so I don't guarantee it being a GB option.
I would love to buy an additional poly bottom if they are available in the gb


Poly bottoms WILL be available 100%. Poly tops probably not as it's done more as an sample run. We'll have to see...


Depending on price I might need to pick two of these up if possible, but that sage colour is calling to me.

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+1, I may need two as well. My daily drivers are two now. One at home. One at the office. I should have the same with the TMO, if I want to master the new layout. Therfore, I am hoping for this to be affordable, enough to be able to get two.

I thought I would be the only one getting 2 haha.

The OP may consider a discount for orders of two or more.  :p


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Yeah I also need two for the same purpose, need those silent switches at the office.

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Well, if don't see why I couldn't offer two boards or parts for a single person. Also quantity drives the manufacturing costs down so that's your discount. :D I'm more than happy to offer two boards if that's what you are planning to order. :)


Will this have a limited order quantity, and also any updates?

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From the discussion and I must say quite active thread I'm reconsidering the possible max quantity of boards (not the 30 boards I've mentioned in OP) but if demand shoots over the max projected quantity I will try and deliver it in my humanly efforts without sacrificing quality. Speaking of updates - I'll post an update in the next post. :)


Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:47:19
Yeah, we'll have to see how the poly tops come out and everything but it's more an experiment right now so I don't guarantee it being a GB option.
I would love to buy an additional poly bottom if they are available in the gb

Poly bottoms WILL be available 100%. Poly tops probably not as it's done more as an sample run. We'll have to see...


nice.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:51:46
Looking forward to that update post!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:53:35
I have great news! Sample or the "founder" run has been manufactured and will be with my contact early next week. After that they'll send me better photos of all the parts and check for quality. If all is well, it'll be on it's way to founders and with my proxy the week after next. I still need to see all the GB colour samples though and will share those too once I receive photos.

On more updates - I'm still working on finding a PCB manufacturing and checking prices so I can find the best deal possible. As there is mostly SMT components I would like to deliver pre-soldered PCBs for you all.

Please check some photos from what I've received:

More
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Title: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: saucybulgogi on Fri, 13 July 2018, 14:11:59
I think thisíll be my first high end 40% board. Renders and photos look great!

Edit: Did you offer the founders boards to the public and I just missed it? Howíd that work?

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 13 July 2018, 14:22:45
I think thisíll be my first high end 40% board. Renders and photos look great!

Edit: Did you offer the founders boards to the public and I just missed it? Howíd that work?

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In the early stages of IC I had a form up for collecting info about what features, materials and colours people would like to be see. I also included a part for "tinkerers" that would be fine with testing this board out as in the beginning I thought this would be a more "amateur" project and will I'll have a bunch of prototypes to offer to people varying in random 3d printed cases and some ****ty pcbs.

After the IC got traction I had enough applications and I did a bit of RNG magic and people research and found a test or a founder group that were active in the community and the IC as well just had the replies in the form I found suiting for a "tinkerer". It was low key and people were notified personally. We've been working on this since about start of May I think to get all the details down, talk over design choices and refined everything. Also just the manufacturing took way longer than expected (order made in end of May with a "due date" on 20th-ish of June).

So it was public in the sense all founders are people that were selected and not just friends. Now I would like to say I see these people as close online friends and they've been very involved in this project becoming a reality thus far.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: kakan on Fri, 13 July 2018, 17:48:50
I have never enjoyed small form factor keyboards under 60%, but this definitely caught my eyes. Especially for it being compatible with Alps. Good like with the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SteffeMK on Fri, 13 July 2018, 19:19:07
Depending on the price, I'm in on this

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: saucybulgogi on Fri, 13 July 2018, 19:52:33
I think thisíll be my first high end 40% board. Renders and photos look great!

Edit: Did you offer the founders boards to the public and I just missed it? Howíd that work?

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In the early stages of IC I had a form up for collecting info about what features, materials and colours people would like to be see. I also included a part for "tinkerers" that would be fine with testing this board out as in the beginning I thought this would be a more "amateur" project and will I'll have a bunch of prototypes to offer to people varying in random 3d printed cases and some ****ty pcbs.

After the IC got traction I had enough applications and I did a bit of RNG magic and people research and found a test or a founder group that were active in the community and the IC as well just had the replies in the form I found suiting for a "tinkerer". It was low key and people were notified personally. We've been working on this since about start of May I think to get all the details down, talk over design choices and refined everything. Also just the manufacturing took way longer than expected (order made in end of May with a "due date" on 20th-ish of June).

So it was public in the sense all founders are people that were selected and not just friends. Now I would like to say I see these people as close online friends and they've been very involved in this project becoming a reality thus far.

Oh wow thatís really cool! Your and all the founders hard work is greatly appreciated!


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: constexpr on Sat, 14 July 2018, 18:35:08
I've been eyeing this for a while, and now I've got to say I'm definitely interested. This is a perfect opportunity to use my NOS Alps (caps are going to be a problem, though).
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sun, 15 July 2018, 03:56:09
I think thisíll be my first high end 40% board. Renders and photos look great!

Edit: Did you offer the founders boards to the public and I just missed it? Howíd that work?

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In the early stages of IC I had a form up for collecting info about what features, materials and colours people would like to be see. I also included a part for "tinkerers" that would be fine with testing this board out as in the beginning I thought this would be a more "amateur" project and will I'll have a bunch of prototypes to offer to people varying in random 3d printed cases and some ****ty pcbs.

After the IC got traction I had enough applications and I did a bit of RNG magic and people research and found a test or a founder group that were active in the community and the IC as well just had the replies in the form I found suiting for a "tinkerer". It was low key and people were notified personally. We've been working on this since about start of May I think to get all the details down, talk over design choices and refined everything. Also just the manufacturing took way longer than expected (order made in end of May with a "due date" on 20th-ish of June).

So it was public in the sense all founders are people that were selected and not just friends. Now I would like to say I see these people as close online friends and they've been very involved in this project becoming a reality thus far.

My regret that I know this project way too late :(
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ErgoMacros on Sun, 15 July 2018, 11:50:14
Hi. You should be OK. Only Ühe "founders" have the keyboards so far.
The Group Buy has not started yet. Keep watching.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 15 July 2018, 11:53:51
Hi. You should be OK. Only Ühe "founders" have the keyboards so far.
The Group Buy has not started yet. Keep watching.  :)
No, even founders doesn't have the boards yet. The boards are manufactured but still in the factory. Please don't misinform people. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ErgoMacros on Sun, 15 July 2018, 11:55:01
Sorry!
Watching this with great interest. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Mon, 16 July 2018, 08:44:49
Waiting patiently for the GB to go-live..

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 18 July 2018, 14:06:10
lying on a beach checking this thread for updates and seeing those case parts is so cool!! Very very exciteddd

Hope the GB isn't too limited, and if it is pls give a little notice so we can prepare to try and snag one  :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Wed, 18 July 2018, 14:44:52
Will the plates allow switch tops removal?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Thu, 19 July 2018, 09:05:53
Very neat little board. If the price ends up in the budget realm I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: constexpr on Thu, 19 July 2018, 13:13:52
Have you considered making a hotswap PCB for the default layout?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 19 July 2018, 14:34:12
lying on a beach checking this thread for updates and seeing those case parts is so cool!! Very very exciteddd

Hope the GB isn't too limited, and if it is pls give a little notice so we can prepare to try and snag one  :p

Sorry!
Watching this with great interest. :)

Very neat little board. If the price ends up in the budget realm I'm in

Waiting patiently for the GB to go-live..

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It's close guys, factory is about to ship all the samples!

Will the plates allow switch tops removal?

Yes, plates are designed with switch top removal in mind. Also the ultra open home row is naturally supporting that! :D

Have you considered making a hotswap PCB for the default layout?

I actually have but it won't happen for this GB round. Have thought about it and will start working on it once I have time to play around.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:40:15

It's close guys, factory is about to ship all the samples!


Woo awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:48:40

It's close guys, factory is about to ship all the samples!


Woo awesome!
Fantastic news..

Is there any estimate time for GB?

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:50:54
Also excited to hear this!! Looking forward to seeing the samples, and the eventual GB   :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: saucybulgogi on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:59:30
Great news! Looking forward to the GB


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: constexpr on Thu, 19 July 2018, 22:24:56
Have you considered making a hotswap PCB for the default layout?

I actually have but it won't happen for this GB round. Have thought about it and will start working on it once I have time to play around.
If all goes well in R1 and we get around to R2, I'll be sure to pick up one of the hotswap PCBs :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 20 July 2018, 02:53:21

It's close guys, factory is about to ship all the samples!


Woo awesome!
Fantastic news..

Is there any estimate time for GB?

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Well, given the manufacturing had it's delays (mostly due to long waiting line) I presume August. I know I know, I promised June at first then July and now August. But they're packing up everything as we speak so it should be with my US proxy late next week or early  first week of August. After some community quality checks and some more research to find a good PCB fab shop I'll have figured out pricing with packaging and pcbs included.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 20 July 2018, 02:59:26
Under "Colour options for case and plate" section in OP, I've added a photo of the GB colour samples!

also here is the photo just for convenience!

(https://i.imgur.com/HuuidPO.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 20 July 2018, 03:18:50
Under "Colour options for case and plate" section in OP, I've added a photo of the GB colour samples!

also here is the photo just for convenience!

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That GREEN
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Fri, 20 July 2018, 04:18:08
Under "Colour options for case and plate" section in OP, I've added a photo of the GB colour samples!

also here is the photo just for convenience!

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That GREEN

+1
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Aerizu on Fri, 20 July 2018, 05:09:11
Under "Colour options for case and plate" section in OP, I've added a photo of the GB colour samples!

also here is the photo just for convenience!

Show Image
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My wallet is ready!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Fri, 20 July 2018, 05:10:58

It's close guys, factory is about to ship all the samples!


Woo awesome!
Fantastic news..

Is there any estimate time for GB?

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Well, given the manufacturing had it's delays (mostly due to long waiting line) I presume August. I know I know, I promised June at first then July and now August. But they're packing up everything as we speak so it should be with my US proxy late next week or early  first week of August. After some community quality checks and some more research to find a good PCB fab shop I'll have figured out pricing with packaging and pcbs included.
Thanks. August seems reasonable schedule.

I'm digging the purple btw

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: beekey on Fri, 20 July 2018, 05:44:47
Wow, that colours look nice.  :thumb: I hope it starts or last till next month.
Many awesome GB are currently ongoing.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Ephemeral on Fri, 20 July 2018, 08:05:13
It's close guys

Been lurking on this a while. Glad to see its going through.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 20 July 2018, 09:50:16
This colors! I'm ready!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 20 July 2018, 10:10:23
That green is perfect!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 20 July 2018, 10:24:29
The green turned out better than I hoped! I am also glad to see the dark grey is more of a black. It goes better with my future plans for this.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SteffeMK on Fri, 20 July 2018, 10:29:19
The purple looks really good. Don't know if you have mentioned it somewhere, but what type of mounting is it?

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 20 July 2018, 10:55:54
The purple looks really good. Don't know if you have mentioned it somewhere, but what type of mounting is it?

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It's gonna be top mount. You can see the exploded view in OP
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Fri, 20 July 2018, 11:10:47
Apologies if I missed this somewhere, but did it get decided if this was usb c or not?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 20 July 2018, 11:12:21
Apologies if I missed this somewhere, but did it get decided if this was usb c or not?

TMO50 is Mini usb.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 20 July 2018, 11:12:37
Apologies if I missed this somewhere, but did it get decided if this was usb c or not?
PCB has been designed and is mini USB
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sun, 22 July 2018, 15:54:56
Wow, all of the colours look great! Still think the green is my top pick for this board, but it's a much closer race now that I've seen the samples! Excited for an August GB :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 July 2018, 17:31:55
What would be the best color to go with a classic beige set?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 22 July 2018, 18:23:11
What would be the best color to go with a classic beige set?

Silver.  No doubt.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 22 July 2018, 18:25:19
What would be the best color to go with a classic beige set?

Didn't you mention you'll go for two boards if the price is right? :D

For a classic beige set you definitely can't go wrong with a silver top. But if it's something like beige with 9009 accents, the green should look real nice also. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sun, 22 July 2018, 19:00:38
What would be the best color to go with a classic beige set?

Didn't you mention you'll go for two boards if the price is right? :D

For a classic beige set you definitely can't go wrong with a silver top. But if it's something like beige with 9009 accents, the green should look real nice also. :)
I'm triggered for purple color but the green one is a good pair with GMK 9009 as you said.. Hmn

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sun, 22 July 2018, 19:44:31
What would be the best color to go with a classic beige set?

Didn't you mention you'll go for two boards if the price is right? :D

For a classic beige set you definitely can't go wrong with a silver top. But if it's something like beige with 9009 accents, the green should look real nice also. :)
I'm triggered for purple color but the green one is a good pair with GMK 9009 as you said.. Hmn

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Yeah. I am hoping - let it be dreaming - in getting twins. Being OG Beige my favorite colorway, I'd try the silver and / or the green tops. I vaguely recalled an old marine workstation in green, but I am not sure if it comes with a Beige set. i should look for it. Thank you for your advice.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: mushubanane on Mon, 23 July 2018, 02:38:50
Oh that green has got my soul
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Mon, 23 July 2018, 06:41:24
The purple is nice but I *just* bought into the new Rev Preonic with it's new purple colorway. For the TMO50 I'm thinking of going classic White.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Mon, 23 July 2018, 06:43:39
The purple is nice but I *just* bought into the new Rev Preonic with it's new purple colorway. For the TMO50 I'm thinking of going classic White.
Actually, according to the OP, that Ąwhiteď in the color sample picture is silver.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 23 July 2018, 06:45:29
The purple is nice but I *just* bought into the new Rev Preonic with it's new purple colorway. For the TMO50 I'm thinking of going classic White.
Actually, according to the OP, that Ąwhiteď in the color sample picture is silver.
I'll have more colour correct photos in couple of days. And yes, that's silver. The white colour from the render is unavailable and not possible with anodization.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Mon, 23 July 2018, 07:10:21
I just quickly scanned the thread but wasn't able to find anything about it: Would it also be possible to get a raw case (without anodization)? I really like the green but am also thinking about getting it cerakoted.
Looking forward to it in any case, most certainly will join this GB. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Mon, 23 July 2018, 10:25:34
I'll have more colour correct photos in couple of days. And yes, that's silver. The white colour from the render is unavailable and not possible with anodization.

Kind of a bummer, but I'm sure the silver will look equally as classy and work with most keysets.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 July 2018, 11:38:11
Powder coating may be an option, although it is expensive for low volume runs, to get aluminum tops in white. But, people that really cannot live without a white top they can always paint a silver anodized one.

(https://i.imgur.com/dZlGC8X.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:05:57
Was a bit busy with life but my US proxy has received the founder boards and they are looking GORGEOUS!

She's made photos of everything for me and so there's high quality photos in the OP. Check under the renders, there's links to albums for plate options, base options and also couple of complete boards. Also there's way better colour sample photos, still under "Color options for plate and case:" section.

Hope you enjoy and we're really close to the launch!

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Nomcr on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:14:17
Thanks funderburker! They boards look fantastic. Looking forward to the GB to launch :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SBN on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:18:08
That combination of a silver top with dark grey bottom is gorgeous!!

I lurked for quite some time here and Iím definitely interested!

Also really nice to read how you handled the ďtinkeringĒ with the founders edition! Awesome work!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:28:14
Forgot to mention - if anyone's going to Seattle's meetup this weekend, there's gonna be some of the cases/plates there. Unfortunately no finished builds yet but you'll have chance to see the unique colours!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Thu, 26 July 2018, 02:07:49
Forgot to mention - if anyone's going to Seattle's meetup this weekend, there's gonna be some of the cases/plates there. Unfortunately no finished builds yet but you'll have chance to see the unique colours!

Another reason to be sad about missing seattle! Hope to see some nice photos of the boards.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: goldensun21 on Thu, 26 July 2018, 03:56:32
Long time lurker as well on this thread and so excited after seeing the images taken by your proxy. I knew this board was going to look good, but I am absolutely blown away. Love the aluminum+poly+brass combo. Can't wait for the GB to open!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:03:44
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:11:39
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:14:06
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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:14:53
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:16:13
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Nice that there will be no big logos on the back? :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:21:11
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Nice that there will be no big logos on the back? :D
Haha actually, I'd find an engraved TMO50 in the middle of the back super nice. :)
Really loving the green! Man, all the colors you chose are soo good!
Will there be a possibillity for a raw aluminum one? I'd probably go for two if this was the case (or maybe I'll go for two anyways..  :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: xondat on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:27:44
Where are all the pictures? :'(
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Thu, 26 July 2018, 13:36:03
Where are all the pictures? :'(
Had trouble to find it as well. They are in the op underneath the render pictures (in a imgur link).
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:12:52
There is a Micro-Arc-Oxidation process that may produce a white-silver finish on aluminum. For those that cannot live without a white top. It seems that its price is higher than other aluminum finishes and it probably may require a special logistics and shipping and handling that will make it expensive. Anyhow, here is a picture of a previous board that features that finishing. I am not interested in this color, but just want to share the information.


(https://i.imgur.com/Mb73tov.png)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Thu, 26 July 2018, 22:47:59
Can't wait for it.. Look totally awesome!

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 02:41:54
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Nice that there will be no big logos on the back? :D
Haha actually, I'd find an engraved TMO50 in the middle of the back super nice. :)
Really loving the green! Man, all the colors you chose are soo good!
Will there be a possibillity for a raw aluminum one? I'd probably go for two if this was the case (or maybe I'll go for two anyways..  :rolleyes: )

You like the founder TMO50 logo, yeah? About offering raw ones - I'd rather not offer that.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 27 July 2018, 05:56:10
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Nice that there will be no big logos on the back? :D
Haha actually, I'd find an engraved TMO50 in the middle of the back super nice. :)
Really loving the green! Man, all the colors you chose are soo good!
Will there be a possibillity for a raw aluminum one? I'd probably go for two if this was the case (or maybe I'll go for two anyways..  :rolleyes: )

You like the founder TMO50 logo, yeah? About offering raw ones - I'd rather not offer that.

I think the TMO logo is super cute too!! Sad if that's only gonna be on the founders ones.

I'm still agonising over what combination I'm going to go with. Has it been mentioned anywhere else whether you're going to allow people to order multiples of any parts? I'm tempted by a polycarb bottom but idk if I'd want to _only_ have that as an option
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 06:28:41
What is the meaning of this: "dibinātāju aizdevums"?
It's only the founders. It's latvian for "founders edition". There will be no logos on the or plate in the GB.

Nice. Thank you.
Nice that there will be no big logos on the back? :D
Haha actually, I'd find an engraved TMO50 in the middle of the back super nice. :)
Really loving the green! Man, all the colors you chose are soo good!
Will there be a possibillity for a raw aluminum one? I'd probably go for two if this was the case (or maybe I'll go for two anyways..  :rolleyes: )

You like the founder TMO50 logo, yeah? About offering raw ones - I'd rather not offer that.
Why against raw options? It's good for people that want to have them powder coated or cerakoted.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 06:34:07
I think the TMO logo is super cute too!! Sad if that's only gonna be on the founders ones.

I'm still agonising over what combination I'm going to go with. Has it been mentioned anywhere else whether you're going to allow people to order multiples of any parts? I'm tempted by a polycarb bottom but idk if I'd want to _only_ have that as an option

Yeah, multiple parts will be possible, I think I covered that in OP but I can't remember. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 27 July 2018, 06:35:12
I think the TMO logo is super cute too!! Sad if that's only gonna be on the founders ones.

I'm still agonising over what combination I'm going to go with. Has it been mentioned anywhere else whether you're going to allow people to order multiples of any parts? I'm tempted by a polycarb bottom but idk if I'd want to _only_ have that as an option

Yeah, multiple parts will be possible, I think I covered that in OP but I can't remember. :D

Woops :P Sorry! Thanks for answering it anyway ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 06:35:39
Why against raw options? It's good for people that want to have them powder coated or cerakoted.

Well, I'll have to think about it maybe.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 06:38:02
Why against raw options? It's good for people that want to have them powder coated or cerakoted.

Well, I'll have to think about it maybe.
It's just a thought. They have to be stripped of any anodizing before they can be painted, so it's really like a cost saving measure.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: saucybulgogi on Fri, 27 July 2018, 07:33:27
Id like it to have the TMO:50 logo too. Itís already an instantly recognizable design but I think having the logo on there adds to the premium feel of the board. Just my two cents.


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:11:07
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:20:30
The poly bottom makes the board to look like it is floating. Nice.

(https://i.imgur.com/z01JNrP.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:22:14
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:29:54
I would love a logo, if it increases cost too much don't worry but if it's a minor increase I would love the option.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:32:13
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:33:19
The poly bottom makes the board to look like it is floating. Nice.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/z01JNrP.jpg)


I think no matter what I end up choosing I'm gonna have to get a polycarb bottom to go with it, love that floating lewk
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:42:45
If you have to put the logo on the keyboard, then please only on the bottom. I like the keyboard, but not the logo. The keyboard itself is a beauty, that should be enough. I like the minimalistic and humble approach.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:50:11
Just want to be clear, the logo I'm talking about if there's is gonna any is this one (TMO50 only, nothing more):

P.S. The four dots in that logo symbolizes the four indicator lights of TMO50.

(https://i.imgur.com/SzJX3HN.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:50:51
I really like it :)

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:50:56
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:56:23
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Fri, 27 July 2018, 13:38:36
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.

From my understanding (sorry to start a sentence like that lol) the idea was to keep the logo/placement that's on the FE but only keep the TMO logo that's on the back side of the top part of the board (so FE style minus the FE text).

That would mean that the TMO has a logo on the back, similar to the diamond that is on the back of the Pearl.

Happy to discuss further

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 13:43:04
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.

From my understanding (sorry to start a sentence like that lol) the idea was to keep the logo/placement that's on the FE but only keep the TMO logo that's on the back side of the top part of the board (so FE style minus the FE text).

That would mean that the TMO has a logo on the back, similar to the diamond that is on the back of the Pearl.

Happy to discuss further



Logos are a curse or a blessing depending on each observer. The interested parties may split between those that want it, the neutrals and those that do not want one. Thus, make it an option that buyers may opt in or out. That would be the best solution.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Fri, 27 July 2018, 14:25:28
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.

From my understanding (sorry to start a sentence like that lol) the idea was to keep the logo/placement that's on the FE but only keep the TMO logo that's on the back side of the top part of the board (so FE style minus the FE text).

That would mean that the TMO has a logo on the back, similar to the diamond that is on the back of the Pearl.

Happy to discuss further



Logos are a curse or a blessing depending on each observer. The interested parties may split between those that want it, the neutrals and those that do not want one. Thus, make it an option that buyers may opt in or out. That would be the best solution.


Oooff that's one that makes sense for the buyers but a nightmare for the GB runner.

If the factory machining the parts outsources the anodization to another shop, then you have to trust that the factory also makes sure that the anodization shop colors the right tops, which adds another row of risk calculation in the hyperthetical excel sheet.

From a GB runners point of view you're doubling the request to the factory. You'd now have 2 different model files for the top (1 with logo and 1 without) and you would then have to specify for each of the 5 colors 2 different options.

If the anodization shop doesn't respect the list, then we could end up with something like 7 anodized blue tops with logos and 3 anodized blue tops without logos, but maybe 5 people ordered anodized blue with logo and 5 anodized blue without.

For that reason, I would always prefer to minimize any chances that the factory or anodizers make a mistake, and go for one option for the whole GB: either logo yes or logo no!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Fri, 27 July 2018, 17:42:09
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.

From my understanding (sorry to start a sentence like that lol) the idea was to keep the logo/placement that's on the FE but only keep the TMO logo that's on the back side of the top part of the board (so FE style minus the FE text).

That would mean that the TMO has a logo on the back, similar to the diamond that is on the back of the Pearl.

Happy to discuss further



Logos are a curse or a blessing depending on each observer. The interested parties may split between those that want it, the neutrals and those that do not want one. Thus, make it an option that buyers may opt in or out. That would be the best solution.


Oooff that's one that makes sense for the buyers but a nightmare for the GB runner.

If the factory machining the parts outsources the anodization to another shop, then you have to trust that the factory also makes sure that the anodization shop colors the right tops, which adds another row of risk calculation in the hyperthetical excel sheet.

From a GB runners point of view you're doubling the request to the factory. You'd now have 2 different model files for the top (1 with logo and 1 without) and you would then have to specify for each of the 5 colors 2 different options.

If the anodization shop doesn't respect the list, then we could end up with something like 7 anodized blue tops with logos and 3 anodized blue tops without logos, but maybe 5 people ordered anodized blue with logo and 5 anodized blue without.

For that reason, I would always prefer to minimize any chances that the factory or anodizers make a mistake, and go for one option for the whole GB: either logo yes or logo no!


I know it may be a logistics challenge. That is why I suggested a simple metalic logo. I would not encourage using a machined logo, at all.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Fri, 27 July 2018, 20:04:51
I'm perfectly fine not having the logo on it... makes the design cleaner. If it does end up going on it should be discreet :)

(on the other hand I'm absolutely in favour of the case having something in Latvian on it! Baltic languages are awesome)
Well, if there is any logo (I'm starting to consider it) then the only thing that'll stay from the founders run are the TMO50 on the left side

You may consider a nice sticker to be applied on the right bottom corner, ala happy-board.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ldD6FjK.jpg)


By right bottom you mean on the right blocker of the board?

Yeah. A sticker for the right blocker is optional. People may get it and decide if apply it or not. They can even apply it and remove it if they do not like it. I share the feeling that having it carved from the factory may alter the minimalistic nature of the TMO50's design.

From my understanding (sorry to start a sentence like that lol) the idea was to keep the logo/placement that's on the FE but only keep the TMO logo that's on the back side of the top part of the board (so FE style minus the FE text).

That would mean that the TMO has a logo on the back, similar to the diamond that is on the back of the Pearl.

Happy to discuss further



Logos are a curse or a blessing depending on each observer. The interested parties may split between those that want it, the neutrals and those that do not want one. Thus, make it an option that buyers may opt in or out. That would be the best solution.


Oooff that's one that makes sense for the buyers but a nightmare for the GB runner.

If the factory machining the parts outsources the anodization to another shop, then you have to trust that the factory also makes sure that the anodization shop colors the right tops, which adds another row of risk calculation in the hyperthetical excel sheet.

From a GB runners point of view you're doubling the request to the factory. You'd now have 2 different model files for the top (1 with logo and 1 without) and you would then have to specify for each of the 5 colors 2 different options.

If the anodization shop doesn't respect the list, then we could end up with something like 7 anodized blue tops with logos and 3 anodized blue tops without logos, but maybe 5 people ordered anodized blue with logo and 5 anodized blue without.

For that reason, I would always prefer to minimize any chances that the factory or anodizers make a mistake, and go for one option for the whole GB: either logo yes or logo no!
Yeah I was concerned this would be the issue, to make OP's life easier and the GB run smoother, I will remove my vote for the logo.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:32:26
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:36:02
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)

Were some of the founder boards pink? Or is that just the photos.


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Niahi on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:38:54
Perfect.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180728/b9fbafe6b33c01497f4c8337dded22f8.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:40:43
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)

Were some of the founder boards pink? Or is that just the photos.


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Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:41:55
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)

Were some of the founder boards pink? Or is that just the photos.


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Yes.

Oh man no chance of running those this round? Those look so nice


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:51:04
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)

Were some of the founder boards pink? Or is that just the photos.


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Yes.

Oh man no chance of running those this round? Those look so nice


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There was an poll where I did offer some of the pink colors but majority voted purple. Maybe a 6th color in possible? :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:53:54
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)

Were some of the founder boards pink? Or is that just the photos.


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Yes.

Oh man no chance of running those this round? Those look so nice


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There was an poll where I did offer some of the pink colors but majority voted purple. Maybe a 6th color in possible? :D

Fingers crossed for pink! Iím definitely in for this board whenever it goes live :)


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: olivia on Sat, 28 July 2018, 04:58:27
I would also second a pink or rose gold color if you're considering adding a 6th color option  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: saucybulgogi on Sat, 28 July 2018, 05:16:13
Ooooo the founders editions look great! Love that teal with the black plate combo.


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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: heycheeeno on Sat, 28 July 2018, 05:53:49
Been following this for a while.
Very interested in the GB 😊
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 July 2018, 07:57:38
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)


(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 09:35:09
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)


I'm still looking at the photos like every hour or so for the past week and sometimes get the feeling that they're renders. Also the plate photos don't have any shadow so it's hard to understand are they floating on air or no. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Sat, 28 July 2018, 09:46:00
I'm sorry have we decided on an approximate price point for the kit yet? Cause I'm starting to think I'll need to get multiples...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 July 2018, 09:51:42
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)




Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)


I'm still looking at the photos like every hour or so for the past week and sometimes get the feeling that they're renders. Also the plate photos don't have any shadow so it's hard to understand are they floating on air or no. :D


I have the same impression. They look like renders. I am sure you will share your own when you put toghether the prototype. I'd love to whatch and listen to a typing video on it soon.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 July 2018, 10:21:46
What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: kakan on Sat, 28 July 2018, 11:02:45
What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.

The pcb will have RGB leds, how many and in what position will dictate the difusing with the poly bottom. I like a more soft typing experience so I will probably go with poly + alu buttom with alu top and a poly plate.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 11:08:26
What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.

What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.

The pcb will have RGB leds, how many and in what position will dictate the difusing with the poly bottom. I like a more soft typing experience so I will probably go with poly + alu buttom with alu top and a poly plate.


Yes, I think I've mentioned that there's gonna be RGB leds underneath (12 - 5 between top two and 5 between bottom two rows and 1 each side in between middle rows). There's really not much space underneath the pcb so there's very little space for the sound to resonate. Alu is definitely stronger and adds weight for a more premium feel but poly is for a relaxed and possibly more colourful experience.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sat, 28 July 2018, 12:26:56
What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.

What bottom's material would be better? The poly would make a nice sound dampener, but the Alu should be stronger. What do you guys think? Will the PCB have any leds at the bottom that makes the poly a nice light difuser? Regarding the plate Alu is a no brainer, it is cheaper than brass, stronger than Poly and it will not tarnish as brass.

The pcb will have RGB leds, how many and in what position will dictate the difusing with the poly bottom. I like a more soft typing experience so I will probably go with poly + alu buttom with alu top and a poly plate.


Yes, I think I've mentioned that there's gonna be RGB leds underneath (12 - 5 between top two and 5 between bottom two rows and 1 each side in between middle rows). There's really not much space underneath the pcb so there's very little space for the sound to resonate. Alu is definitely stronger and adds weight for a more premium feel but poly is for a relaxed and possibly more colourful experience.


I am very sorry if you have already wrote it somewhere. I cannot read definitely.  :'(


Thank you for the information. I supose the Poly bottom may give a more deeper sound to the assembly, besides being a nice light diffuser.  ::)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sat, 28 July 2018, 17:20:34
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)


I'm still looking at the photos like every hour or so for the past week and sometimes get the feeling that they're renders. Also the plate photos don't have any shadow so it's hard to understand are they floating on air or no. :D

oh my goodness that album is borderline nsfw! Agree that they look like renders (probably the pristine white photobox contributes heavily to that), but so excited to see so many colour combos!

Is the green of the founder series keyboards the same as the green in the anodization samples? The full boards look a little paler in colour.


Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 17:25:03
OK, I see that discussion has been heated and I appreciate it. I'm on the fence if I'd do a logo or not but I'm thinking about different options too. Non the less - it's my decision in the end so there won't be any poll.

Other side of things - here's a full album of all of the founder keyboards! Enjoy and yes - there's a lot of colors!

TMO50 FOUNDERS EDITION (https://photos.app.goo.gl/roaWCCfXPXLujh5f8)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)


I'm still looking at the photos like every hour or so for the past week and sometimes get the feeling that they're renders. Also the plate photos don't have any shadow so it's hard to understand are they floating on air or no. :D

oh my goodness that album is borderline nsfw! Agree that they look like renders (probably the pristine white photobox contributes heavily to that), but so excited to see so many colour combos!

Is the green of the founder series keyboards the same as the green in the anodization samples? The full boards look a little paler in colour.

Nope, the colours are unique and chosen by the boards owners. The only board that uses the GB colours is 08 (silver top, dark gray bottom, sandblasted brass). Everything else is one-off and probably (hopefully) never leaves the founder. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 28 July 2018, 17:25:57
Sorry for the double post but I'd like to confirm - 6TH COLOUR IS HAPPENING. PINK IT IS.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 28 July 2018, 17:52:01
Sorry for the double post but I'd like to confirm - 6TH COLOUR IS HAPPENING. PINK IT IS.
This is great news for pink lover people

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: olivia on Sun, 29 July 2018, 00:03:21
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Muiju on Sun, 29 July 2018, 21:18:14
Rose gold please!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sun, 29 July 2018, 23:26:40
oh my goodness that album is borderline nsfw! Agree that they look like renders (probably the pristine white photobox contributes heavily to that), but so excited to see so many colour combos!

Is the green of the founder series keyboards the same as the green in the anodization samples? The full boards look a little paler in colour.

Nope, the colours are unique and chosen by the boards owners. The only board that uses the GB colours is 08 (silver top, dark gray bottom, sandblasted brass). Everything else is one-off and probably (hopefully) never leaves the founder. :D

That's what I figured. Will we be seeing full board anodization samples in the chosen colours by the time the GB starts?

Also I got a little too excited and I remapped the colours in one of the photos of the green board to the colours of the green anodization sample photo, just to see what happened. Sharing it here in case anyone else is curious, although obviously this is my own image processing and not a real board:

(https://i.imgur.com/Uy64mvl.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lunr on Mon, 30 July 2018, 08:09:05
That lilac or light purple is amazing.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 30 July 2018, 10:07:44


That's what I figured. Will we be seeing full board anodization samples in the chosen colours by the time the GB starts?

Also I got a little too excited and I remapped the colours in one of the photos of the green board to the colours of the green anodization sample photo, just to see what happened. Sharing it here in case anyone else is curious, although obviously this is my own image processing and not a real board:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Uy64mvl.jpg)


Oh, interesting! It looks lighter than the samples.

About the GB colours - unfortunately no, I'm not doing sample boards in the GB colours. But the finish and consistency is great so I trust that real boards will be great and in the correct colour.

That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 July 2018, 10:15:06

About the GB colours - unfortunately no, I'm not doing sample boards in the GB colours. But the finish and consistency is great so I trust that real boards will be great and in the correct colour.



The small variations in shades add to the uniqueness of the boards.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lunr on Mon, 30 July 2018, 12:59:08
Yar and the one with the polycarb plate and bottom. Not sure if they are different colours or just the lighting. Wish you would offer that colour though!


That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 30 July 2018, 13:26:31
Yar and the one with the polycarb plate and bottom. Not sure if they are different colours or just the lighting. Wish you would offer that colour though!


That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D
It's a white box photo booth so lightning is the same in all photos. :D I'd like to offer all of the colours but I need to draw a line somewhere. 6 colours and material and individual part options will hard to keep track of already.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 July 2018, 14:39:33
Yar and the one with the polycarb plate and bottom. Not sure if they are different colours or just the lighting. Wish you would offer that colour though!


That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D
It's a white box photo booth so lightning is the same in all photos. :D I'd like to offer all of the colours but I need to draw a line somewhere. 6 colours and material and individual part options will hard to keep track of already.


Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: kakan on Mon, 30 July 2018, 16:45:53
Yar and the one with the polycarb plate and bottom. Not sure if they are different colours or just the lighting. Wish you would offer that colour though!


That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D
It's a white box photo booth so lightning is the same in all photos. :D I'd like to offer all of the colours but I need to draw a line somewhere. 6 colours and material and individual part options will hard to keep track of already.


Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."

and produce keyboards every 93 minutes in the millions :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Starius on Mon, 30 July 2018, 19:54:02

Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."

A bit off topic here, but in 1926 my great grandfather and his family packed up, left the family farm, and moved to California where he painted Model T Fords.
Before long, he ended up hating it out there and promptly moved the family back home to the farm in Iowa. 

So, apparently painting Model T Fords wasn't for everyone either. 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:03:51
Yar and the one with the polycarb plate and bottom. Not sure if they are different colours or just the lighting. Wish you would offer that colour though!


That lilac or light purple is amazing.

You mean the full alu board with a dark plate? One of my favourites from the bunch, even though I love them all! :D
It's a white box photo booth so lightning is the same in all photos. :D I'd like to offer all of the colours but I need to draw a line somewhere. 6 colours and material and individual part options will hard to keep track of already.


Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."

and produce keyboards every 93 minutes in the millions :D


That's so. :))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:05:23

Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."

A bit off topic here, but in 1926 my great grandfather and his family packed up, left the family farm, and moved to California where he painted Model T Fords.
Before long, he ended up hating it out there and promptly moved the family back home to the farm in Iowa. 

So, apparently painting Model T Fords wasn't for everyone either.


What an awesome piece of history. I'll share it with my Manufacturing Engineering Students this week.  :thumb:  May i say: I friend of mine once told me...? They may be very impressed.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Starius on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:39:40

Do as Henry Ford did. "You can get your T-Model in any color you want, as long as it is black."

A bit off topic here, but in 1926 my great grandfather and his family packed up, left the family farm, and moved to California where he painted Model T Fords.
Before long, he ended up hating it out there and promptly moved the family back home to the farm in Iowa. 

So, apparently painting Model T Fords wasn't for everyone either.


What an awesome piece of history. I'll share it with my Manufacturing Engineering Students this week.  :thumb:  May i say: I friend of mine once told me...? They may be very impressed.

Hah, well, I don't know if it's much of a story, but feel free to use it.   I still have a copy of the 1926 farm auction bill when he tried to sell the farm. I don't know the details, but it must not have sold because he moved back to it when he returned from California and I'm living on it now.  It wasn't all that long before the great depression, so perhaps things were already getting bad leading up to that point. 
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:20:44
Man whoever got that blue TMO has good taste  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 01 August 2018, 10:35:46
Sorry for the double post but I'd like to confirm - 6TH COLOUR IS HAPPENING. PINK IT IS.

I can't believe that geekhack would betray me like this and stop sending my notifications RIGHT WHEN THE MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF MY LIFE HAPPENS

That pink looks amazing I'm so happy!!!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 01 August 2018, 10:38:11
Sorry for the double post but I'd like to confirm - 6TH COLOUR IS HAPPENING. PINK IT IS.

I can't believe that geekhack would betray me like this and stop sending my notifications RIGHT WHEN THE MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF MY LIFE HAPPENS

**** YEAH so excited for this
I'll post the pantone colour tonight but it'll be called "Rose Goldia".
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Wed, 01 August 2018, 10:40:25
Sorry for the double post but I'd like to confirm - 6TH COLOUR IS HAPPENING. PINK IT IS.

I can't believe that geekhack would betray me like this and stop sending my notifications RIGHT WHEN THE MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF MY LIFE HAPPENS

**** YEAH so excited for this
I'll post the pantone colour tonight but it'll be called "Rose Goldia".

sorry to snake you and edit my post lmao

I loved the rose gold Pearls that have been floating around, so this is basically a dream come true :')
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Fri, 03 August 2018, 01:41:06
I'll post the pantone colour tonight but it'll be called "Rose Goldia".

Oh no. The only colour option that might make me seriously reconsider whether I want to get the board in green... is rose gold. Dangit funderburker you're making this very difficult :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 03 August 2018, 01:52:36
I'll post the pantone colour tonight but it'll be called "Rose Goldia".

Oh no. The only colour option that might make me seriously reconsider whether I want to get the board in green... is rose gold. Dangit funderburker you're making this very difficult :D
Easy! Get both!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: mushubanane on Sat, 04 August 2018, 10:04:06
Can't wait, it's hard not to get tempted by other stuff like the HHKB Tofu or Kumo in the meantime  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 09 August 2018, 15:51:33
Hey guys!

It's been a week with no updates, sorry about that.

Due to some personal reasons I've been extremely busy and am a tiny bit behind the schedule with the plans I had for last and this week.

I've yet to make a business as the money involved in this GB most definitely isn't small change that I can just push through my personal bank account without government checking in. I'm planning to go through this process next week. In about that time there should be a couple of finished founder boards too so I'll have final feedback on small changes if there is any to be made. If any issue arises that is a minor fix and doesn't change anything in the design or the pcb, it'll be fixed while GB sign-up phase happens.

I'm truly sorry about another minor setback but life is life and I don't want to rush the final steps of the project.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 August 2018, 16:21:24
Hey guys!

It's been a week with no updates, sorry about that.

Due to some personal reasons I've been extremely busy and am a tiny bit behind the schedule with the plans I had for last and this week.

I've yet to make a business as the money involved in this GB most definitely isn't small change that I can just push through my personal bank account without government checking in. I'm planning to go through this process next week. In about that time there should be a couple of finished founder boards too so I'll have final feedback on small changes if there is any to be made. If any issue arises that is a minor fix and doesn't change anything in the design or the pcb, it'll be fixed while GB sign-up phase happens.

I'm truly sorry about another minor setback but life is life and I don't want to rush the final steps of the project.


Take your time. My wallet is enjoying the ride while it lasts. She knows its end is coming.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 09 August 2018, 17:40:34
Agreed, don't worry at all about the delays! Take your time, do things right, and don't stress yourself out on our account!
(.....plus, yes, the wallet thing ;))
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Thu, 09 August 2018, 19:39:50
Take your time! So many buys going on that this is actually welcomed :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Fri, 10 August 2018, 04:47:18
August is ending up being an expensive month so a little delay is kinda welcome ;) Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 16 August 2018, 11:30:55
What an amazing project. I'd forgotten all about it since June, so was amazing to follow the progress and discussions up to this point.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 August 2018, 12:14:00
Is the TMO50's width larger than that of a regular sixty? Would the style compensate for the loss of the top number row? I really like the design; yet, I can touch-typing on the alphas; but, I need visual clue for the symbols. All this waiting time allows for some thinking.  :(
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:58:41


What an amazing project. I'd forgotten all about it since June, so was amazing to follow the progress and discussions up to this point.


Please do follow as there's starting to pop up some finished "founders" boards. That means we're really closing phase of testing some and in the meantime I'm doing final company stuff.


Is the TMO50's width larger than that of a regular sixty? Would the style compensate for the loss of the top number row? I really like the design; yet, I can touch-typing on the alphas; but, I need visual clue for the symbols. All this waiting time allows for some thinking.  :(

Well, from top of my head it's about 0.25u wider than a 60% but that's due to the macro column and indicator strip. The layout will need some small adjustment but that's why symbols are hidden without any real compromise (all numbers and their corresponding symbols are in one line).

P.S. Once I have some good footage of a typing test and built board beauty shots, I hope that'll convince you back into the GB. :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Thu, 16 August 2018, 19:22:24
can't wait to see full-built board shots and typing tests! :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 18 August 2018, 20:09:34
i'm in definitely after this spot this in VNMK fb grp.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/a19c1f83f038de41cb0f5089d13fb622.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Sun, 19 August 2018, 02:57:07
i'm in definitely after this spot this in VNMK fb grp.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/a19c1f83f038de41cb0f5089d13fb622.jpg)


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Oh, first builds are starting to pop up :)

That's a full alu board with alu plate and some Nixies just for the info. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sun, 19 August 2018, 03:00:46
i'm in definitely after this spot this in VNMK fb grp.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/a19c1f83f038de41cb0f5089d13fb622.jpg)


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Oh, first builds are starting to pop up :)

That's a full alu board with alu plate and some Nixies just for the info. :)

That board is beautiful!! I definately need one in purple.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: StickyBlueJuice on Sun, 19 August 2018, 03:06:46
i'm in definitely after this spot this in VNMK fb grp.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/a19c1f83f038de41cb0f5089d13fb622.jpg)


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Sexy! :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Sun, 19 August 2018, 12:56:27
Goddd that looks ****en amazing!! Can't wait to see some more builds  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 21 August 2018, 01:02:51
I've seen the prototype at Seattle and have read through the various pages of this interest check. The more I look at it, the more it encourages me attempt the dive towards sub-60% layouts.

I have officially signed up to watch the thread and to be notified. :thumb:

Color me interested for the GB, as long as it stays at an affordable price range.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: mushubanane on Tue, 21 August 2018, 09:54:44
Aren't there any other pictures from founders boards  :) ?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 21 August 2018, 14:55:52
Aren't there any other pictures from founders boards  :) ?

Some IRL photos!

(https://i.imgur.com/u900iD1.jpg)
Comparison photo with another board (can't remember what exactly!)

(https://i.imgur.com/r7CSkph.jpg)
Vewy Nice's board (credit to vewy nice) (https://imgur.com/a/fPNO2vJ)

(https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg)
Wokechill's board (unbuilt)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Tue, 21 August 2018, 18:24:04
This and a leather case/pouch will be the best for mobility
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:00:26
Aren't there any other pictures from founders boards  :) ?

Some IRL photos!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/u900iD1.jpg)

Comparison photo with another board (can't remember what exactly!)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/r7CSkph.jpg)

Vewy Nice's board (credit to vewy nice) (https://imgur.com/a/fPNO2vJ)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg)

Wokechill's board (unbuilt)

Looks awesome! I love the TMO50 print on the side
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 26 August 2018, 12:29:53
Is there a date for the GB?

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 28 August 2018, 13:37:12
Is there a date for the GB?

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SOON (TM)

Unfortunately there is an issue with the founders PCBs (hand-soldered ones, not factory made) so there's been quite a delay to get them back to the person who assembled them and then back to US proxy so she can send out everyone's complete packages. It's was a small issue but it's set the final testing and finishing configuration quite a bit. Boards should've been with founders early to mid August but well... it is what it is. I'm extremely bummed that there's been a delay but I'll provide GB pricing for everything this week (possibly without shipping costs)

On a positive note - I've talked with Zfrontier and he's happy to help out with being this GBs Asia proxy. That means TMO50 will have both US and Asia proxies and me for covering Europe.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Tue, 28 August 2018, 14:34:59
Awesome! Hoping the price is not totally destroy my wallet. With zF being Asia proxy, a wide range of customer exposed

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Tue, 28 August 2018, 15:06:38
Is there a date for the GB?

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SOON (TM)

Unfortunately there is an issue with the founders PCBs (hand-soldered ones, not factory made) so there's been quite a delay to get them back to the person who assembled them and then back to US proxy so she can send out everyone's complete packages. It's was a small issue but it's set the final testing and finishing configuration quite a bit. Boards should've been with founders early to mid August but well... it is what it is. I'm extremely bummed that there's been a delay but I'll provide GB pricing for everything this week (possibly without shipping costs)

On a positive note - I've talked with Zfrontier and he's happy to help out with being this GBs Asia proxy. That means TMO50 will have both US and Asia proxies and me for covering Europe.

Big congrats on the proxy confirmation, makes it a lot easier for more friends to join  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Tue, 28 August 2018, 18:01:22
Canít wait for the GB!!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dimo on Tue, 28 August 2018, 23:19:08
Is the 50 unit maximum still a thing?

definitely in (:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 01:00:44
SOON (TM)...

Sorry to hear about the Founder's Edition PCBs, but I hope they'll be able to enjoy the board in its entirety soon!

Excited for the group buy. Hopefully my first tiny board  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: hndle on Wed, 29 August 2018, 06:34:39
I'm ready for this :p
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: hndle on Sat, 01 September 2018, 12:06:51
When will you provide the pricing?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Sun, 02 September 2018, 21:34:03
Hopeful it will be $200 price tag..

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 03 September 2018, 08:40:44
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Mon, 03 September 2018, 08:44:36
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.
Dude, very sorry to hear that. Good luck on everything and hope to see you soon.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Mon, 03 September 2018, 08:54:54
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.

Oh no! I hope everything's okay. Whenever you do get back to it, consider me in  :thumb:

If anyone wants to sell off a founders edition.... hmu ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: beekey on Mon, 03 September 2018, 10:45:00
Take care, keyboards are not that important. Looking forward to it, whenever you are ready.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Mon, 03 September 2018, 10:47:40
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.

Hope all is well! Let us know if there is anything we can do to help!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Starius on Mon, 03 September 2018, 13:13:21
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.

Don't feel bad on our account.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who should ideally be doing more saving than spending. :)
We'll be here whenever you're able to come back.

For now, we all know your priority needs to be on your situation. 
Best wishes!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 03 September 2018, 13:25:34
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.
Sorry to hear that. Wishing you the best, funderburker.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Mon, 03 September 2018, 15:09:10
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.

Hope everything is okay! Take care of yourself and those you love first, we're in no hurry here. Waiting patiently for your return!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lordgiblite on Mon, 03 September 2018, 18:51:34
Due to personal matters I'm putting a hold on the GB. I truly am sad about this but... I will be back when I'm ready. This WILL happen sometime.
yes, take care of real life first. we'll all be hear waiting for your return :D

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Pluto19 on Mon, 03 September 2018, 23:10:59
Due to personal matters...

I'm so sorry to hear that, Funder. Take care of what ya need. Wishin' you the best! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 03 September 2018, 23:39:43
So sorry to hear about this. Hope your situation improves soon Funder!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: lecorsair on Tue, 04 September 2018, 11:01:59
Hope all will be well with you soon, best wishes.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: nothingzzz on Tue, 04 September 2018, 12:05:19
Best wishes for you, hope everything is going to be better.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: sleepy on Tue, 04 September 2018, 12:06:55
You're a big inspiration Funder and I give you my best wishes in dealing with the things life has thrown at ya. I'll always be around if you need someone to talk to or just to listen. :hug:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ZROGST on Tue, 04 September 2018, 16:27:38
Hope everything gets squared away for you Funder :)  We'll be here when you get back to it.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Acereconkeys on Fri, 07 September 2018, 21:51:41
Took another great photo of this board today. I can't wait for everyone to get their hands on this thing.

(https://i.imgur.com/sfUmU3n.jpg)

Typing video:
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Ayska on Sat, 08 September 2018, 05:46:00
This looks amazing! Definitely interested. Hope everything in real life is going ok. Looking forward to the group buy though!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard | IT'S HAPPENING
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 11 September 2018, 01:21:55
Hey people!

Before the interesting part I would like to say thank you for everyone posting good wishes and messaging me. It's been extremely uplifting and show that there's some great people in this community. THANK YOU. Okay, I'll wipe the tears off and get into something way way more important. :D

As most of you know about a week ago I made a statement about putting TMO50 group buy on hold. It's due to personal matters I don't want to get into but needless to say it's taking a toll on me and my family. It was not easy to make the prior announcement and it's been hard on me as I've put in so much time and resources into everything and I can't make that final step.

Over the course of these past few days I've thought about all the ways I'll come back later and make a group buy and get it out to as many interested people as humanly possible. But the thing is - you've waited long enough and you're ready to get it NOW. Founders boards have been delivered (finally!) and we think it's been a great success! That being said, we (I and the Founders) are confident that TMO50 is ready for a bigger audience. And there's no reason not to make it happen whatever it takes.

I hereby announce that TMO50 group buy Round 1 will happen and it'll happen SOON. With the help and support of a couple of very close friends and also TMO50 founders, Kellybear and Briz, the group buy is back on! We've talked with Kellybear and Briz taking over the operation for Round 1 so I can focus on my personal situation while still being able to see this through. They'll be taking over everything, from organizing to delivery and I have the uttermost confidence they'll do way better than I ever could. If you don't know, they're very talented artisan makers so they have experience with running things and seeing it through.

Where does this leave you and what's happening now? For the time being Kellybear and Briz are busy with their primary business, artisans. But they're already hard at work finalizing pricing and planning out a roadmap for Round 1. There's going to be an official group buy announcement and a GB post made end of September with the actual GB happening in October. For all the details about how it'll go down you'll have to wait until the GB post. But it'll be limited so stay on your toes!

Please notice that I've mentioned "Round 1". There's going be "Round 2" also but I can't say when. Kelly's helping me with this just until I'm ready to organize a group buy on my own. I'll point out again that I don't know when that could be. :(

I would like to thank Kellybear and Briz for coming through with this incredible save and I'm grateful to have them. Also all the other Founders - your time and feedback is what motivates me to see this through. I'm also thankful for everyone in this IC that's been holding in with me and TMO50. It's been a long way to get here and I'm happy that we've found a way this board can become a reality and bring it to you all. TMO50 will live on and I'm 100% confident that'll there's more to come from me when I return.

Sincerely,
Emils
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Tue, 11 September 2018, 01:24:39
Dude.. Best post ever!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard | IT'S HAPPENING
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 11 September 2018, 01:35:11
Hey people!

Before the interesting part I would like to say thank you for everyone posting good wishes and messaging me. It's been extremely uplifting and show that there's some great people in this community. THANK YOU. Okay, I'll wipe the tears off and get into something way way more important. :D

As most of you know about a week ago I made a statement about putting TMO50 group buy on hold. It's due to personal matters I don't want to get into but needless to say it's taking a toll on me and my family. It was not easy to make the prior announcement and it's been hard on me as I've put in so much time and resources into everything and I can't make that final step.

Over the course of these past few days I've thought about all the ways I'll come back later and make a group buy and get it out to as many interested people as humanly possible. But the thing is - you've waited long enough and you're ready to get it NOW. Founders boards have been delivered (finally!) and we think it's been a great success! That being said, we (I and the Founders) are confident that TMO50 is ready for a bigger audience. And there's no reason not to make it happen whatever it takes.

I hereby announce that TMO50 group buy Round 1 will happen and it'll happen SOON. With the help and support of a couple of very close friends and also TMO50 founders, Kellybear and Briz, the group buy is back on! We've talked with Kellybear and Briz taking over the operation for Round 1 so I can focus on my personal situation while still being able to see this through. They'll be taking over everything, from organizing to delivery and I have the uttermost confidence they'll do way better than I ever could. If you don't know, they're very talented artisan makers so they have experience with running things and seeing it through.

Where does this leave you and what's happening now? For the time being Kellybear and Briz are busy with their primary business, artisans. But they're already hard at work finalizing pricing and planning out a roadmap for Round 1. There's going to be an official group buy announcement and a GB post made end of September with the actual GB happening in October. For all the details about how it'll go down you'll have to wait until the GB post. But it'll be limited so stay on your toes!

Please notice that I've mentioned "Round 1". There's going be "Round 2" also but I can't say when. Kelly's helping me with this just until I'm ready to organize a group buy on my own. I'll point out again that I don't know when that could be. :(

I would like to thank Kellybear and Briz for coming through with this incredible save and I'm grateful to have them. Also all the other Founders - your time and feedback is what motivates me to see this through. I'm also thankful for everyone in this IC that's been holding in with me and TMO50. It's been a long way to get here and I'm happy that we've found a way this board can become a reality and bring it to you all. TMO50 will live on and I'm 100% confident that'll there's more to come from me when I return.

Sincerely,
Emils

Nice
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: PyroL on Tue, 11 September 2018, 01:36:29
Well this is more than exciting :DD
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: hndle on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:07:38
wow! really good news
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:28:56
Omg! It's so amazing that you're still trying to get this sorted for everyone :0

So so ready for this. I'll be on board the instant that the GB goes up :thumb: and maybe I'll need a second one too by the time that R2 rolls around  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:39:38
Hi guys! I just wanted to chime in since Emils has announced that I will be handling the round 1 buy for this board. I will have an official GB thread posted up in late September with price estimates for everyone. I plan to have 30 slots for this group buy. I wish I could do more but this takes away time from my normal work. I'm ecstatic to move forward with this and get the TMO50 to those who want it! Please stay tuned for more information :3
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:43:19
Hi guys! I just wanted to chime in since Emils has announced that I will be handling the round 1 buy for this board. I will have an official GB thread posted up in late September with price estimates for everyone. I plan to have 30 slots for this group buy. I wish I could do more but this takes away time from my normal work. I'm ecstatic to move forward with this and get the TMO50 to those who want it! Please stay tuned for more information :3

I know you might not have decided yet, but is it gonna be a first-come-first-served dealy, or a raffle? If the slots are gonna be limited
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:52:55
Hi guys! I just wanted to chime in since Emils has announced that I will be handling the round 1 buy for this board. I will have an official GB thread posted up in late September with price estimates for everyone. I plan to have 30 slots for this group buy. I wish I could do more but this takes away time from my normal work. I'm ecstatic to move forward with this and get the TMO50 to those who want it! Please stay tuned for more information :3

I know you might not have decided yet, but is it gonna be a first-come-first-served dealy, or a raffle? If the slots are gonna be limited

If there is more interest than there is slots, I plan to raffle! I'm just going to have people interested fill out the form based on what they want and I'll have it run through a random number generator to select people. It'll be open a reasonable amount of time to allow everyone to enter (probably 24 hours).
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:55:40
interested in this but waiting for final pricing so i can decide whether to jump in or not! Glad this is back on.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:56:58
Hi guys! I just wanted to chime in since Emils has announced that I will be handling the round 1 buy for this board. I will have an official GB thread posted up in late September with price estimates for everyone. I plan to have 30 slots for this group buy. I wish I could do more but this takes away time from my normal work. I'm ecstatic to move forward with this and get the TMO50 to those who want it! Please stay tuned for more information :3

I know you might not have decided yet, but is it gonna be a first-come-first-served dealy, or a raffle? If the slots are gonna be limited

If there is more interest than there is slots, I plan to raffle! I'm just going to have people interested fill out the form based on what they want and I'll have it run through a random number generator to select people. It'll be open a reasonable amount of time to allow everyone to enter (probably 24 hours).

Cool! Thanks for the info :) I always suck at being ready for FCFS stuff, so raffle is probably good

Also thanks for taking this over! Super cool of you
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 02:59:50
interested in this but waiting for final pricing so i can decide whether to jump in or not! Glad this is back on.  ;D

I'll have concrete prices listed when I post up the group buy thread. For now I can tell you that the boards will cost between 275-350 depending on materials chosen! Sorry I can't give more details yet. :< I promise the group buy thread will be up before the form for entry opens so people can see prices ahead of time.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: nocilantroplz on Tue, 11 September 2018, 03:02:02
I really want to try this layout and the board looks great. If it's rose gold it'd be a dream come true for me too. The color linked to the 'Rose Goldia' in the front page is Pantone 7520C which looks really nice, but the color shown in one of the founder boards seems to be more pink, almost light purple-ish. Is it just me or the lighting, or is that the final Rose Goldia?
 
https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 03:06:44
I really want to try this layout and the board looks great. If it's rose gold it'd be a dream come true for me too. The color linked to the 'Rose Goldia' in the front page is Pantone 7520C which looks really nice, but the color shown in one of the founder boards seems to be more pink, almost light purple-ish. Is it just me or the lighting, or is that the final Rose Goldia?
 
https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg

The pink board that you see in photos is a custom pink that was chosen by a founder. That will not be the same as the Rose Goldia group buy color. Unfortunately I donít have a physical sample of the Rose Goldia since the color was added after samples had already been ordered and received.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: nocilantroplz on Tue, 11 September 2018, 03:17:57
I really want to try this layout and the board looks great. If it's rose gold it'd be a dream come true for me too. The color linked to the 'Rose Goldia' in the front page is Pantone 7520C which looks really nice, but the color shown in one of the founder boards seems to be more pink, almost light purple-ish. Is it just me or the lighting, or is that the final Rose Goldia?
 
https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg

The pink board that you see in photos is a custom pink that was chosen by a founder. That will not be the same as the Rose Goldia group buy color. Unfortunately I donít have a physical sample of the Rose Goldia since the color was added after samples had already been ordered and received.

Glad to know! I'm definitely in for a Rose Goldia  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 03:19:16
I really want to try this layout and the board looks great. If it's rose gold it'd be a dream come true for me too. The color linked to the 'Rose Goldia' in the front page is Pantone 7520C which looks really nice, but the color shown in one of the founder boards seems to be more pink, almost light purple-ish. Is it just me or the lighting, or is that the final Rose Goldia?
 
https://i.imgur.com/2LPghkh.jpg

The pink board that you see in photos is a custom pink that was chosen by a founder. That will not be the same as the Rose Goldia group buy color. Unfortunately I donít have a physical sample of the Rose Goldia since the color was added after samples had already been ordered and received.

Glad to know! I'm definitely in for a Rose Goldia  ;D

I am happy to know that! Also, I love cilantro. :<
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Tue, 11 September 2018, 03:56:17
Hey people!

Before the interesting part I would like to say thank you for everyone posting good wishes and messaging me. It's been extremely uplifting and show that there's some great people in this community. THANK YOU. Okay, I'll wipe the tears off and get into something way way more important. :D

As most of you know about a week ago I made a statement about putting TMO50 group buy on hold. It's due to personal matters I don't want to get into but needless to say it's taking a toll on me and my family. It was not easy to make the prior announcement and it's been hard on me as I've put in so much time and resources into everything and I can't make that final step.

Over the course of these past few days I've thought about all the ways I'll come back later and make a group buy and get it out to as many interested people as humanly possible. But the thing is - you've waited long enough and you're ready to get it NOW. Founders boards have been delivered (finally!) and we think it's been a great success! That being said, we (I and the Founders) are confident that TMO50 is ready for a bigger audience. And there's no reason not to make it happen whatever it takes.

I hereby announce that TMO50 group buy Round 1 will happen and it'll happen SOON. With the help and support of a couple of very close friends and also TMO50 founders, Kellybear and Briz, the group buy is back on! We've talked with Kellybear and Briz taking over the operation for Round 1 so I can focus on my personal situation while still being able to see this through. They'll be taking over everything, from organizing to delivery and I have the uttermost confidence they'll do way better than I ever could. If you don't know, they're very talented artisan makers so they have experience with running things and seeing it through.

Where does this leave you and what's happening now? For the time being Kellybear and Briz are busy with their primary business, artisans. But they're already hard at work finalizing pricing and planning out a roadmap for Round 1. There's going to be an official group buy announcement and a GB post made end of September with the actual GB happening in October. For all the details about how it'll go down you'll have to wait until the GB post. But it'll be limited so stay on your toes!

Please notice that I've mentioned "Round 1". There's going be "Round 2" also but I can't say when. Kelly's helping me with this just until I'm ready to organize a group buy on my own. I'll point out again that I don't know when that could be. :(

I would like to thank Kellybear and Briz for coming through with this incredible save and I'm grateful to have them. Also all the other Founders - your time and feedback is what motivates me to see this through. I'm also thankful for everyone in this IC that's been holding in with me and TMO50. It's been a long way to get here and I'm happy that we've found a way this board can become a reality and bring it to you all. TMO50 will live on and I'm 100% confident that'll there's more to come from me when I return.

Sincerely,
Emils
Hey Funderburker!
Really good to hear that the board is going to be produced despite your current personal situation. Thanks a lot for your work on this and that you still found a way to get this made. I have a lot of respect for that (and you) and it shows all the heart you put into this board! This is really inspiring to me and, evidentially, a lot of other people! Thanks also for that!
All the best to you, hopefully, you situation will improve soon!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 11 September 2018, 04:11:45
interested in this but waiting for final pricing so i can decide whether to jump in or not! Glad this is back on.  ;D

I'll have concrete prices listed when I post up the group buy thread. For now I can tell you that the boards will cost between 275-350 depending on materials chosen! Sorry I can't give more details yet. :< I promise the group buy thread will be up before the form for entry opens so people can see prices ahead of time.

Alrighty thanks! i've been looking to pick up a purple board. This might just be my first one heh
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 11 September 2018, 06:03:34
I'm excited that this is going to happen but I have TERRIBLE rng luck.  I've been after this board since the very first post so I can't say I'm super happy about only 30 slots in R1.  Life goes on though and after I lose R1 I'll be fully supportive of R2 and beyond!  Funderburker,  you have designed a beautiful endgame keyboard worthy of any collection (as well as daily use!).  October can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: typischt on Tue, 11 September 2018, 06:41:07
interested in this but waiting for final pricing so i can decide whether to jump in or not! Glad this is back on.  ;D

I'll have concrete prices listed when I post up the group buy thread. For now I can tell you that the boards will cost between 275-350 depending on materials chosen! Sorry I can't give more details yet. :< I promise the group buy thread will be up before the form for entry opens so people can see prices ahead of time.
Not sure, if the 275-350 price is a bit too steep for me.. Going to have to consider this, maybe IĎd have to wait for the second run. Still, thanks a lot for taking over this first round!
Two quick questions:
1. Are there already some pictures of your founders board? :)
2. Is there going to be a possibility for a raw board (meaning without anodization)? I already asked the question once (and the answer was Ąprobably not possibleď), but since everything changed a bit, I thought IĎd ask again.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: godinjointform on Tue, 11 September 2018, 06:47:55
I'm really happy to hear Kelly and Briz will be taking over for this first round of boards. They both care deeply about the quality of the products they deliver, and they have the infrastructure for this to be a very successful group buy. Looking forward to seeing more people get this board in their hands!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 11 September 2018, 07:33:29
Agreed with all of the other sentiments expressed here! Funderburker, thanks for ensuring the project continues in the very near term -- you didn't need to! Best wishes. Kellybear and Briz, thanks for taking up the mantle amongst all of your other work! I'm disappointed the first run will be a raffle of 30, as there's been lots of interest and I have terrible luck, but I applaud you for keeping the scale manageable for yourselves!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ctrl on Tue, 11 September 2018, 08:27:01
Just found out about this board and am happy to see that it will move on to GB. If only it would've had split LShift, it would've come very close to my dream layout. Still, I'm following this with great interest. If only my sack of money allows it (it's a very flappy sack), I just might jump on the bandwagon here. :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 11 September 2018, 12:11:58
interested in this but waiting for final pricing so i can decide whether to jump in or not! Glad this is back on.  ;D

I'll have concrete prices listed when I post up the group buy thread. For now I can tell you that the boards will cost between 275-350 depending on materials chosen! Sorry I can't give more details yet. :< I promise the group buy thread will be up before the form for entry opens so people can see prices ahead of time.
Not sure, if the 275-350 price is a bit too steep for me.. Going to have to consider this, maybe IĎd have to wait for the second run. Still, thanks a lot for taking over this first round!
Two quick questions:
1. Are there already some pictures of your founders board? :)
2. Is there going to be a possibility for a raw board (meaning without anodization)? I already asked the question once (and the answer was Ąprobably not possibleď), but since everything changed a bit, I thought IĎd ask again.

There have been founder shots posted around reddit I believe. Dixiemech, AceRecon, sparklepony, and Vewy_nice are some people off the top of my head that have posted shots of their boards publicly! I have not built my own board yet, and I am building another founder board as well so I will have photos of those when they are finished whenever that is. I have put my own projects aside to make time for working on my artisan sales and incorporating this group buy into my usual timeline :3

EDIT: Oops, sorry.. I didn't address your second question. There will not be an option for a raw board this time around. We have 6 color options for all aluminum parts.

I'm excited that this is going to happen but I have TERRIBLE rng luck.  I've been after this board since the very first post so I can't say I'm super happy about only 30 slots in R1.  Life goes on though and after I lose R1 I'll be fully supportive of R2 and beyond!  Funderburker,  you have designed a beautiful endgame keyboard worthy of any collection (as well as daily use!).  October can't come soon enough!

Agreed with all of the other sentiments expressed here! Funderburker, thanks for ensuring the project continues in the very near term -- you didn't need to! Best wishes. Kellybear and Briz, thanks for taking up the mantle amongst all of your other work! I'm disappointed the first run will be a raffle of 30, as there's been lots of interest and I have terrible luck, but I applaud you for keeping the scale manageable for yourselves!

I know it's disappointing that it will be a raffle. I wish I could do more but I don't want to bury myself in boards since I am trying to fit in doing the group buy while I am still working on my own projects. I hope you understand. This will just be the first run and of course more rounds will be available in the future. I really appreciate you guys expressing your thoughts. Like I stated previously, if more entries appear than slots, it will raffle, but if there are 30 people then everyone gets in. I know it'll come down to the prices so I will post the group buy when I can finalize everything.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 11 September 2018, 16:43:12
I know it's disappointing that it will be a raffle. I wish I could do more but I don't want to bury myself in boards since I am trying to fit in doing the group buy while I am still working on my own projects. I hope you understand. This will just be the first run and of course more rounds will be available in the future. I really appreciate you guys expressing your thoughts. Like I stated previously, if more entries appear than slots, it will raffle, but if there are 30 people then everyone gets in. I know it'll come down to the prices so I will post the group buy when I can finalize everything.

Oh no, I totally understand. As I said, beyond my personal feelings, I'm glad that you're being realistic about the scale of the project! It's all too common in these group buy / crowdfunding situations for project leaders to over-promise and then get overwhelmed, so I take this as a sign that the project will likely stay on track and is in professional hands :) We'll see how things go once the final price is announced -- there's a big difference between 275 and 350.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: hndle on Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:39:23
I hope there is one of my seat in the 30  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: SBN on Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:42:25
Happy to hear a GB is happening!! Many thanks to everyone involved and all the best to funderburker of course!

Iíll definitely join the raffle! Thatís always exciting and not as stressful as a FCFS buy... :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 12 September 2018, 16:06:44
I know it's disappointing that it will be a raffle. I wish I could do more but I don't want to bury myself in boards since I am trying to fit in doing the group buy while I am still working on my own projects. I hope you understand. This will just be the first run and of course more rounds will be available in the future. I really appreciate you guys expressing your thoughts. Like I stated previously, if more entries appear than slots, it will raffle, but if there are 30 people then everyone gets in. I know it'll come down to the prices so I will post the group buy when I can finalize everything.

Oh no, I totally understand. As I said, beyond my personal feelings, I'm glad that you're being realistic about the scale of the project! It's all too common in these group buy / crowdfunding situations for project leaders to over-promise and then get overwhelmed, so I take this as a sign that the project will likely stay on track and is in professional hands :) We'll see how things go once the final price is announced -- there's a big difference between 275 and 350.

The range of pricing comes from whether you decide to do full aluminum case with aluminum/brass plate versus an aluminum top and polycarbonate for the rest. Polycarbonate plate and bottom are of course cheaper options compared to their metal counterparts. I still want to offer as much as I can despite this being a small buy so I do want to give aluminum, brass, and polycarbonate options. The numbers themselves will either go up or down. Iím also including PayPal fees and shipping in this guestimate. Iíll get the group buy thread up as soon as I can after Iím done communicating with the manufacturer for the cases and the PCBs.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 12 September 2018, 18:02:54
I know it's disappointing that it will be a raffle. I wish I could do more but I don't want to bury myself in boards since I am trying to fit in doing the group buy while I am still working on my own projects. I hope you understand. This will just be the first run and of course more rounds will be available in the future. I really appreciate you guys expressing your thoughts. Like I stated previously, if more entries appear than slots, it will raffle, but if there are 30 people then everyone gets in. I know it'll come down to the prices so I will post the group buy when I can finalize everything.

Oh no, I totally understand. As I said, beyond my personal feelings, I'm glad that you're being realistic about the scale of the project! It's all too common in these group buy / crowdfunding situations for project leaders to over-promise and then get overwhelmed, so I take this as a sign that the project will likely stay on track and is in professional hands :) We'll see how things go once the final price is announced -- there's a big difference between 275 and 350.

The range of pricing comes from whether you decide to do full aluminum case with aluminum/brass plate versus an aluminum top and polycarbonate for the rest. Polycarbonate plate and bottom are of course cheaper options compared to their metal counterparts. I still want to offer as much as I can despite this being a small buy so I do want to give aluminum, brass, and polycarbonate options. The numbers themselves will either go up or down. Iím also including PayPal fees and shipping in this guestimate. Iíll get the group buy thread up as soon as I can after Iím done communicating with the manufacturer for the cases and the PCBs.

Just to clarify, there will be no polycarbonate top correct?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Wed, 12 September 2018, 18:05:17
Just to clarify, there will be no polycarbonate top correct?

Correct! Due to the immense amount of warping, the polycarbonate top will not be in the official buy.

Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 16 September 2018, 16:39:36
Coming back to this keyboard every few days, wondering if I'll even have the funds to cover it. This is no bueno.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:15:39
Update for everyone: GB thread is awaiting approval. Prices have been posted in them. I'll post the link when the thread is approved!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: gilmoregrills on Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:17:34
Update for everyone: GB thread is awaiting approval. Prices have been posted in them. I'll post the link when the thread is approved!

Omggg it's finally happening!!! So dang excited
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:23:53
Update for everyone: GB thread is awaiting approval. Prices have been posted in them. I'll post the link when the thread is approved!

Omggg it's finally happening!!! So dang excited

OMGGGG, it's happening! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:34:59
Coming back to this keyboard every few days, wondering if I'll even have the funds to cover it. This is no bueno.
Yeah. Im feeling the same way. This is honestly my favorite layout so far and I cant even afford it. Smh.

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 24 September 2018, 20:01:08
Coming back to this keyboard every few days, wondering if I'll even have the funds to cover it. This is no bueno.
Yeah. Im feeling the same way. This is honestly my favorite layout so far and I cant even afford it. Smh.

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me 3 but I'm really trying to stay optimistic about the raffle.  going to find a way to make it happen (if I wiin)!!  A layout like this doesn't come along often so I have to figure it out.  It's going to be my travel keeb and I've been practicing with the layout by paying attention to my common keystrokes and functions at work to see how they will match up (it's looking good and easy to use so far).  Hype!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: cucgach on Mon, 24 September 2018, 20:04:24
New keeb or iphone XS? Meh..i'm an android fan ..

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Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard | IT'S HAPPENING
Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Mon, 24 September 2018, 21:40:12
Please notice that I've mentioned "Round 1". There's going be "Round 2" also but I can't say when. Kelly's helping me with this just until I'm ready to organize a group buy on my own. I'll point out again that I don't know when that could be. :(

I know that there are no plans at all yet for Round 2, but do you think you or your partners would be interested in expanding and making Round 2 non-limited? I'm gonna be extremely bummed if I miss the raffle (or can't find a way to afford this asap). :(
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 25 September 2018, 00:53:07
I am so happy it is going to happen! Good luck to everyone in the raffle!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RivieraS on Tue, 25 September 2018, 02:19:11
Sir,how to join in GB now???
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 25 September 2018, 16:11:20
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97470.0 Post has been approved!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Sat, 13 October 2018, 05:25:19
hello friends

I'll be doing a build stream for the TMO tonight at around 19:00 or 20:00 CET at https://www.twitch.tv/meltedcheesekeebs

will announce closer to the time on my insta https://www.instagram.com/meltedcheesekeebs/

sorry it's short notice, I just got my **** together to be able to confidently say I can build it tonight.

I'm hoping that anyone intested can ask questions or see the board, really actually building it is the secondary purpose of streaming.

See ya
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Jayveur on Sun, 17 March 2019, 18:38:04
love the look of this
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Sun, 17 March 2019, 19:26:04
Is there a second round in the works?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 18 March 2019, 05:20:12
Is there a second round in the works?

No, it's been put on hold. I understand people are really interested in a R2 as am I but it's not possible for me to run it yet and I don't think Kellybear is eager to do a R2 too. The soonest I could (but I'm not saying I would) is this summer but that also depends on whether I get my **** together IRL or not. I'm on extremely busy schedule with work, uni and other personal matters. I'd like to run R2 myself but that also comes with some challenges as I'm an EU citizen and seeing that a large percentage of people that entered R1 raffle was from US, that means extra customs and shipping costs for example. There's always a proxy possible but that's still an extra step to do if 70% is going to a proxy and I'm covering only 30% (percentage is only an example, these numbersa aren't from R1 entrants), who's running the GB? :D Also my manufacturer (as a lot of others) increased manufacturing costs so that means either negotiating those costs or just ramping up on quantity and lowering options (3 colors instead of 6).

From a purely personal reason - I'd like to get my own TMO50's before doing R2 as I have a couple ideas on improving some aspects of the boards (redo indicator LEDs, bigger tolerance on the USB port) and adding other features (USB-C over USB-Mini, etc.).

P.S. I did some work on an acrylic "sandwich" design case that I wanted to open-source with everyone but all of the extra pcbs were bought out so quick that there's none left.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 March 2019, 08:56:47
Is there a second round in the works?

No, it's been put on hold. I understand people are really interested in a R2 as am I but it's not possible for me to run it yet and I don't think Kellybear is eager to do a R2 too. The soonest I could (but I'm not saying I would) is this summer but that also depends on whether I get my **** together IRL or not. I'm on extremely busy schedule with work, uni and other personal matters. I'd like to run R2 myself but that also comes with some challenges as I'm an EU citizen and seeing that a large percentage of people that entered R1 raffle was from US, that means extra customs and shipping costs for example. There's always a proxy possible but that's still an extra step to do if 70% is going to a proxy and I'm covering only 30% (percentage is only an example, these numbersa aren't from R1 entrants), who's running the GB? :D Also my manufacturer (as a lot of others) increased manufacturing costs so that means either negotiating those costs or just ramping up on quantity and lowering options (3 colors instead of 6).

From a purely personal reason - I'd like to get my own TMO50's before doing R2 as I have a couple ideas on improving some aspects of the boards (redo indicator LEDs, bigger tolerance on the USB port) and adding other features (USB-C over USB-Mini, etc.).

P.S. I did some work on an acrylic "sandwich" design case that I wanted to open-source with everyone but all of the extra pcbs were bought out so quick that there's none left.


I understand. You may consider an agreement with a vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Mon, 18 March 2019, 12:15:22
P.S. I did some work on an acrylic "sandwich" design case that I wanted to open-source with everyone.
Go on....   :D
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Mon, 18 March 2019, 14:44:41
Is there a second round in the works?

No, it's been put on hold. I understand people are really interested in a R2 as am I but it's not possible for me to run it yet and I don't think Kellybear is eager to do a R2 too. The soonest I could (but I'm not saying I would) is this summer but that also depends on whether I get my **** together IRL or not. I'm on extremely busy schedule with work, uni and other personal matters. I'd like to run R2 myself but that also comes with some challenges as I'm an EU citizen and seeing that a large percentage of people that entered R1 raffle was from US, that means extra customs and shipping costs for example. There's always a proxy possible but that's still an extra step to do if 70% is going to a proxy and I'm covering only 30% (percentage is only an example, these numbersa aren't from R1 entrants), who's running the GB? :D Also my manufacturer (as a lot of others) increased manufacturing costs so that means either negotiating those costs or just ramping up on quantity and lowering options (3 colors instead of 6).

From a purely personal reason - I'd like to get my own TMO50's before doing R2 as I have a couple ideas on improving some aspects of the boards (redo indicator LEDs, bigger tolerance on the USB port) and adding other features (USB-C over USB-Mini, etc.).

P.S. I did some work on an acrylic "sandwich" design case that I wanted to open-source with everyone but all of the extra pcbs were bought out so quick that there's none left.

Thanks for taking the time to write all of this out. Of course there are a lot of us who didn't make the R1 raffle or discovered the board afterwards who are interested, but we totally understand that life things take priority. I'll just be waiting here patiently!

How come you haven't gotten your own TMO50s?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: boosmyller on Thu, 25 April 2019, 16:13:37
This is probably my favorite layout of any keyboard I've seen.  I must have it!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Lormania on Thu, 25 April 2019, 22:51:52
Rama's new Foundry could help out with round 2... :)

Much appreciated for all your hard work!


Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 26 April 2019, 00:49:08
This is probably my favorite layout of any keyboard I've seen.  I must have it!

Unfortunately for now you'll have to hunt one down or make your own using the plate files. Sorry mate.  :-[

Rama's new Foundry could help out with round 2... :)

Much appreciated for all your hard work!

Hmm, interesting...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: arang on Mon, 06 May 2019, 22:46:24
i need this  :)
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: CaninoDev on Sun, 12 May 2019, 22:13:35
This is probably my favorite layout of any keyboard I've seen.  I must have it!

Unfortunately for now you'll have to hunt one down or make your own using the plate files. Sorry mate.  :-[

Rama's new Foundry could help out with round 2... :)

Much appreciated for all your hard work!

Hmm, interesting...

This is probably my favorite layout of any keyboard I've seen.  I must have it!

Unfortunately for now you'll have to hunt one down or make your own using the plate files. Sorry mate.  :-[
Does this mean that the PCB/plate files are open sourced?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Mon, 13 May 2019, 03:32:53
Plate files are open sourced and available in my Github repo (https://github.com/emiilsd/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tmo50/dxfs). PCB files are not available right now.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: RealLaugh on Wed, 22 May 2019, 14:02:20
Plate files are open sourced and available in my Github repo (https://github.com/emiilsd/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tmo50/dxfs). PCB files are not available right now.

Might wanna check the dxf exports boss they're not working for me on https://viewer.autodesk.com/

Code: [Select]
AutoCAD-InvalidFile Sorry, the drawing file is invalid and cannot be viewed. - Please try to recover the file in AutoCAD, and upload it again to view.

TranslationWorker-InternalFailure Unrecoverable exit code from extractor: -1073741831
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Gbanek on Thu, 23 May 2019, 10:40:16
Love the layout. Can't wait to see more updates!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: vegs on Thu, 23 May 2019, 12:02:41
Love the layout. Can't wait to see more updates!
I'm afraid you are a bit late: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97470.0
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 23 May 2019, 13:33:36
Plate files are open sourced and available in my Github repo (https://github.com/emiilsd/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tmo50/dxfs). PCB files are not available right now.

Might wanna check the dxf exports boss they're not working for me on https://viewer.autodesk.com/

Code: [Select]
AutoCAD-InvalidFile Sorry, the drawing file is invalid and cannot be viewed. - Please try to recover the file in AutoCAD, and upload it again to view.

TranslationWorker-InternalFailure Unrecoverable exit code from extractor: -1073741831

Thanks, will export them again and view in Autodesk.
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: jaang on Fri, 31 May 2019, 00:52:35
Is there a second round in the works?

No, it's been put on hold. I understand people are really interested in a R2 as am I but it's not possible for me to run it yet and I don't think Kellybear is eager to do a R2 too. The soonest I could (but I'm not saying I would) is this summer but that also depends on whether I get my **** together IRL or not. I'm on extremely busy schedule with work, uni and other personal matters. I'd like to run R2 myself but that also comes with some challenges as I'm an EU citizen and seeing that a large percentage of people that entered R1 raffle was from US, that means extra customs and shipping costs for example. There's always a proxy possible but that's still an extra step to do if 70% is going to a proxy and I'm covering only 30% (percentage is only an example, these numbersa aren't from R1 entrants), who's running the GB? :D Also my manufacturer (as a lot of others) increased manufacturing costs so that means either negotiating those costs or just ramping up on quantity and lowering options (3 colors instead of 6).

From a purely personal reason - I'd like to get my own TMO50's before doing R2 as I have a couple ideas on improving some aspects of the boards (redo indicator LEDs, bigger tolerance on the USB port) and adding other features (USB-C over USB-Mini, etc.).

P.S. I did some work on an acrylic "sandwich" design case that I wanted to open-source with everyone but all of the extra pcbs were bought out so quick that there's none left.

I'll patiently wait for a R2 :p

Thanks for all the hard work though!
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: AfroMax on Fri, 21 June 2019, 13:54:12
is there a chance for a second run ?
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: pheonix991 on Wed, 03 July 2019, 15:48:04
Yeah, I'm gonna need to get my hands on one of these...
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 03 July 2019, 16:58:12
oops. wrong thread sorry
Title: Re: [IC] TMO50 keyboard
Post by: Nightcrawler on Wed, 03 July 2019, 19:01:50
oops. wrong thread sorry

?? What happened??