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Title: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 12:59:47
Hello!

This is the GB page for GMK Necro.
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)

Please express all thoughts on this keyset here! Opinions welcome.

Base kit
(https://i.imgur.com/6FHZNMX.jpg)

The keyset is available to be purchased on one of the following:
North America - Available @ Originative.co (http://www.originativeco.com/products/necro)
Europe -  Available @ mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-necro_44/)
Asia & Australia - Available @ zFrontier.com (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/gmk/products/gmk-necro)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Signature on Fri, 30 March 2018, 14:59:49
Approved!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 30 March 2018, 15:13:57
i have to be honest these renders look much better...i really like the pale green over the pea soup
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 16:55:30
Yeah I too loved the old color of the alpha's, that was what drew me to this key set :-[ the first time
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:04:31
Yeah I too loved the old color of the alpha's, that was what drew me to this key set :-[ the first time

Sorry to hear that, but the colour code actually hasn't changed at all! It's just different lighting conditions for the renders
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:05:39
GLWB ;D

2nd and 4th pictures need resizing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:12:26
GLWB ;D

2nd and 4th pictures need resizing.
Every frickin time man
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Muffin_Smasher on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:15:00
Set looks great.  I am in for 1 of each.  Very nice unique colorway! :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:27:59
So, it is just me... or are there two 2.25u shifts in the kit? :P
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:41:42
So, it is just me... or are there two 2.25u shifts in the kit? :P

There are, to support FC660 / Clueboard layouts :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:47:30
Yeah I too loved the old color of the alpha's, that was what drew me to this key set :-[ the first time

Sorry to hear that, but the colour code actually hasn't changed at all! It's just different lighting conditions for the renders

well with that i'm probably back in lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 30 March 2018, 17:58:13
So, it is just me... or are there two 2.25u shifts in the kit? :P

There are, to support FC660 / Clueboard layouts :)

Never knew that :P

You don’t have any color samples do you?


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 30 March 2018, 18:30:18
IN!

fingers crossed this round. Hopefully the word spreads quickly! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Sissy on Fri, 30 March 2018, 18:43:03
Set I've been wanting and very thankful for you giving it another chance.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ReverbSlush on Fri, 30 March 2018, 19:52:05
In in in. Sacrificing some rattling stabs tonight for good moq mojo
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Geek Maker on Fri, 30 March 2018, 20:11:10
congratulations.
def join in.
I think the second render is made by the same designer of the first and third one. The GMK official render is less accurate to some extent.Although not accurate, it is better to post it in OP. i love this color not only because of the original color-way but also the rare color.
I want to confirm some specifications on this:
A:how often the GB progress will be updated?
B:I have mistaken the MOQ of base in your IC. The moq of base kit is 250, am I right?
C:I could not find any GB period in OP and 4.20 on ZF site? Does that mean the GB period remain uncertainty. If base kit hit MOQ in the expected period , everything is great. If not, the GB period will be extend to help reach MOQ?
Thank you
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 20:39:55
congratulations.
def join in.
I think the second render is made by the same designer of the first and third one. The GMK official render is less accurate to some extent.Although not accurate, it is better to post it in OP. i love this color not only because of the original color-way but also the rare color.
I want to confirm some specifications on this:
A:how often the GB progress will be updated?
B:I have mistaken the MOQ of base in your IC. The moq of base kit is 250, am I right?
C:I could not find any GB period in OP and 4.20 on ZF site? Does that mean the GB period remain uncertainty. If base kit hit MOQ in the expected period , everything is great. If not, the GB period will be extend to help reach MOQ?
Thank you

A. Daily on my end. I'll get updates from EU and Asia every day/every other day.
B. 250 MOQ for base, yes.
C. April 20th, but I will extend a week or two if absolutely needed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 30 March 2018, 20:41:00
don't worry the cool kids will help you hype it
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Geek Maker on Fri, 30 March 2018, 20:50:20
congratulations.
def join in.
I think the second render is made by the same designer of the first and third one. The GMK official render is less accurate to some extent.Although not accurate, it is better to post it in OP. i love this color not only because of the original color-way but also the rare color.
I want to confirm some specifications on this:
A:how often the GB progress will be updated?
B:I have mistaken the MOQ of base in your IC. The moq of base kit is 250, am I right?
C:I could not find any GB period in OP and 4.20 on ZF site? Does that mean the GB period remain uncertainty. If base kit hit MOQ in the expected period , everything is great. If not, the GB period will be extend to help reach MOQ?
Thank you

A. Daily on my end. I'll get updates from EU and Asia every day/every other day.
B. 250 MOQ for base, yes.
C. April 20th, but I will extend a week or two if absolutely needed.

fabulous... :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 30 March 2018, 22:29:03
Hello!

This is the GB page for GMK Necro.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)


Please express all thoughts on this keyset here! Opinions welcome.

Base kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PbisJtg.jpg)


Novelty kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hPdhDQe.png)


Spacebar kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FdxtzGg.png)


The keyset is available to be purchased on one of the following:
North America - Necro will be available @ DMKeys.com (https://dmkeys.com/collections/all)
Europe -  Necro will be available @ mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-necro_44/)
Asia & Australia - Necro will be available @ zFrontier.com (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/gmk/products/gmk-necro)

I just realized there’s no 6u spacebar in the base set. Aren’t they now being thrown in for free due to GMK wanting sets to have it to use with their exclusive board? Might want to ask just in case.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Fri, 30 March 2018, 22:36:21
I just realized there’s no 6u spacebar in the base set. Aren’t they now being thrown in for free due to GMK wanting sets to have it to use with their exclusive board? Might want to ask just in case.

I have heard no such thing, however I will check in with my contact first thing Monday :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: wixxzblu on Sat, 31 March 2018, 01:55:02
Hello!

This is the GB page for GMK Necro.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)


Please express all thoughts on this keyset here! Opinions welcome.

Base kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PbisJtg.jpg)


Novelty kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hPdhDQe.png)


Spacebar kit
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FdxtzGg.png)


The keyset is available to be purchased on one of the following:
North America - Necro will be available @ DMKeys.com (https://dmkeys.com/collections/all)
Europe -  Necro will be available @ mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-necro_44/)
Asia & Australia - Necro will be available @ zFrontier.com (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/gmk/products/gmk-necro)

I just realized there’s no 6u spacebar in the base set. Aren’t they now being thrown in for free due to GMK wanting sets to have it to use with their exclusive board? Might want to ask just in case.

I also just realized the spacebar kit could use a 6u alpha colored spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sat, 31 March 2018, 13:56:16
Updated the numbers for the first day. Don't have any updates from our EU proxy but got numbers from Asia.

Numbers are as follows:

DMKEYS ORDERS
Base - 20/250
Novelties - 16/100
Spacebars - 15/100
COMBINED ORDERS
Base - 25/250
Novelties - 20/100
Spacebars - 20/100

So 1/10 of the way on the base kit, and already 1/5 of the orders needed for the child kits! Super excited, we're doing great so far!
Thank you all for the incredible amount of support so far
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Sat, 31 March 2018, 14:40:06
I am in via mykeyboard.eu, base + novelties. Hopefully you have something to increase the hype.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sat, 31 March 2018, 15:50:49
I am in via mykeyboard.eu, base + novelties. Hopefully you have something to increase the hype.

I'm gonna include some stickers in all orders fulfilled by me :)

That said, I've got a couple other thingies
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Sat, 31 March 2018, 18:44:46
I am in via mykeyboard.eu, base + novelties. Hopefully you have something to increase the hype.

I'm gonna include some stickers in all orders fulfilled by me :)

That said, I've got a couple other thingies
thingies, you say?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 01 April 2018, 11:00:27
In again! Love the set and hoping this makes it this time!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sun, 01 April 2018, 16:57:00
These novelties are way cute.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Liocer on Sun, 01 April 2018, 17:15:34
Joined Via EU :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sun, 01 April 2018, 17:25:25
Update for you guys, I posted the sales numbers on the OP of this post to make it easy for you guys to keep track of. I will also be keeping the numbers on my website updated as well.

Also added a timeline so we all know what we're looking at here :)

Mini edit:

The sales numbers are looking great for the first few days btw. Like, absolutely stunning numbers, and I don't even have the sales numbers from my EU proxy yet!
Thanks a million for the support so far, I'm doing my best to make this set the best for you I can
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 02 April 2018, 08:17:51
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Mikiberry on Mon, 02 April 2018, 11:45:55
Lovely colourway.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: KeLorean on Mon, 02 April 2018, 11:48:57
so happy! just waiting to get paid.


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:04:36
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:20:47
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:28:00
Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Including EU numbers?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:50:43
Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Including EU numbers?
Including EU Numbers™ now!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:53:15
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?

Email sent, but I believe Germany celebrates Easter Monday so probably won't have a response till later this week. I'll be sure to keep you guys posted on that one
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:56:17
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?

Email sent, but I believe Germany celebrates Easter Monday so probably won't have a response till later this week. I'll be sure to keep you guys posted on that one

Nice, thank you!

This is a must-have set for me, so I’ll be placing my order soon. 1 of each, for sure...maybe splurge a bit on extra Novelties. Too cool not to get more than one set of those!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Mikiberry on Mon, 02 April 2018, 22:32:08
Was hoping you could extend the gb period to end april, at least that will be payday for me lol.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 02 April 2018, 23:58:35
Was hoping you could extend the gb period to end april, at least that will be payday for me lol.

Yah, based on many requests, I'm gonna just go ahead and extend the GB to April 27th to make it an even 4 weeks.

I've contacted my proxys it and they will update their ends accordingly :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Tue, 03 April 2018, 07:43:34
Was hoping you could extend the gb period to end april, at least that will be payday for me lol.

Yah, based on many requests, I'm gonna just go ahead and extend the GB to April 27th to make it an even 4 weeks.

I've contacted my proxys it and they will update their ends accordingly :)

This is great news!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: brooklynlou on Tue, 03 April 2018, 09:17:44
After seeing the GMK sale choices on Massdrop, this set is a steal ...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: elfick on Tue, 03 April 2018, 11:01:44
After seeing the GMK sale choices on Massdrop, this set is a steal ...
Worth noting that the Massdrop GMK Keycap Extravaganza prices aren't GB prices. They are previously manufactured and ship in about a month from drop end.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Tue, 03 April 2018, 12:34:52
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
So I got a response back from GMK, and they are willing to offer a 6u off centre spacebar for the base kit for no additional cost!
I’ll have an updated render from oblotzky here shortly :)


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:05:36
Lovely colourway.
Glad to hear it :)

There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Edit: Updated numbers in OP

Any word on the 6u Spacebar for the base set?
So I got a response back from GMK, and they are willing to offer a 6u off centre spacebar for the base kit for no additional cost!
I’ll have an updated render from oblotzky here shortly :)


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 :thumb: Nice move from them.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 April 2018, 16:47:55
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

That is a bummer, so no VE.A support...Welp, lets see how the numbers work out. Worst case scenario third times a charm (on Massdrop where every GMK set hits MOQ now).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Tue, 03 April 2018, 20:14:29
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

That is a bummer, so no VE.A support...Welp, lets see how the numbers work out. Worst case scenario third times a charm (on Massdrop where every GMK set hits MOQ now).

VE.A support is possible with virtually every GMK set, just with the cop out that you use the numpad 0 :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Owl- on Wed, 04 April 2018, 15:18:02
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Not for the Plank, it's for the Clueboard, it uses two 2u bars as split.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 04 April 2018, 15:40:44
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Not for the Plank, it's for the Clueboard, it uses two 2u bars as split.

Hopefully when this hits MoQ and gets made, there can be some child sets made to address boards like the Planck and Preonic like they did with GMK 9009.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:41:56
There's no 2u in the space bars kit :(

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)

Not for the Plank, it's for the Clueboard, it uses two 2u bars as split.

Hopefully when this hits MoQ and gets made, there can be some child sets made to address boards like the Planck and Preonic like they did with GMK 9009.
Some Vim caps for this would be sweet


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Wed, 04 April 2018, 21:54:28
Some Vim caps for this would be sweet

Not a bad idea :thinking:

Also, updated the numbers in the OP. Almost at 50 sets before the first week is even over. I'm feeling good about this...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Thu, 05 April 2018, 12:59:07
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/09ecfc71dc91f5b02406ce6491e63e26.jpg)

not sure this is the best place to ask this, but does anyone know where to get this artisan? A Necro colored one would be perfect for this set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xondat on Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:10:27
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/09ecfc71dc91f5b02406ce6491e63e26.jpg)


not sure this is the best place to ask this, but does anyone know where to get this artisan? A Necro colored one would be perfect for this set.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85766.0
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Thu, 05 April 2018, 13:12:57
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/09ecfc71dc91f5b02406ce6491e63e26.jpg)


not sure this is the best place to ask this, but does anyone know where to get this artisan? A Necro colored one would be perfect for this set.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85766.0
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: bearz42 on Thu, 05 April 2018, 20:41:02
I put my oder in.

Totally in love with this set
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Fri, 06 April 2018, 01:46:26
The set was featured in Top Clack Episode 4/5/18. It starts about on 7:30 min.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sun, 08 April 2018, 13:22:14
Hello!

Updated the numbers for the last few days. Sorry for the lack of any interaction here, I've been out of town for a couple days visiting a friend visiting from out of the country :)

We're doing well so far, and there's always a lull towards the middle of a GB but I'm still gonna push this set on reddit and IG, and any other avenues you guys think would be worth pushing on ;)

Thanks for all the wonderful support so far, I appreciate it a lot
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Sun, 08 April 2018, 15:30:34
Hello!

Updated the numbers for the last few days. Sorry for the lack of any interaction here, I've been out of town for a couple days visiting a friend visiting from out of the country :)

We're doing well so far, and there's always a lull towards the middle of a GB but I'm still gonna push this set on reddit and IG, and any other avenues you guys think would be worth pushing on ;)

Thanks for all the wonderful support so far, I appreciate it a lot

Massdrop community section maybe?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Mon, 09 April 2018, 05:54:39
Is the combined ordered with both proxies?  I want to see this set make it!

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:08:59
Is the combined ordered with both proxies?  I want to see this set make it!

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Yes it's from both but I only get like weekly updates from my EU proxy and haven't gotten an update in a few days from Asia so take it with a medium sized grain of salt :P

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:10:14
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:

Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!

I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:23:56
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:

Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!

I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)

Is this for CONUS orders only?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:25:42
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:

Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!

I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)

Is this for CONUS orders only?

I'm gonna get in touch with my proxys tonight and tell them to advertise it as well :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Mon, 09 April 2018, 16:13:50
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:

Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!

I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)

Oh man, oh man!!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Nzo on Mon, 09 April 2018, 17:45:40
Registered just to say I'm in!! Got a board picked out for this and will get me a cable once I know its production. Love the colors!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:38:38
Also, announcing it here since I got permission to:

Brocaps will be making artisans to match Necro. Some lucky orders will get a free Kep in their order!

I'll be working with him closely the next couple weeks and keep you all posted ;)
Well now I'm starting to think about buying more than one set just to up my chances...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: gnunin on Wed, 11 April 2018, 01:47:35
How are the numbers looking Brazzers?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: evangs on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:08:50
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:33:14
How are the numbers looking Brazzers?  :)

I'm not at home until about 10pm PST tonight, but I will update the numbers ASAP! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:43:05
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

The Minivan is a really niche layout, barely anyone uses it. Makes sense to exclude every layout, and only hit the major ones, especially when the USD/EUR is a bit ****.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:43:38
Loving this set, I am super excited that I might finally have a full GMK keyset that will support my ultimate hacking keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: razor_blade on Wed, 11 April 2018, 15:18:28
This is going to look so amazing on my TGR-Alice! I can't wait!
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Post by: jimirolln on Wed, 11 April 2018, 15:56:39
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

after supporting and crusading for hub in the forums this is disheartening to see...not because it is well outside the lines of gb etiquette or because these types of concerns are better suited for the ic process...but because for someone with a project in the air whom one would think understands the struggle of producing any thing in this community i would hope to not see negative energy vibes dumped onto an active endeavor...positive encouragement or a necro hub runback tossup would have been classy

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Mikiberry on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:09:07
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

I think I am cancelling my kickstarter pledge for the Hub...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:49:01
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

C’mon now...leave the negativity at home. The MiniVan isn’t the only type of keyboard available...so you could build another board & choose to put Necro on it.
I agree with jimirolln - this is a comment that would’ve been suitable for the IC thread...not the GB thread where Brazzers is trying to hit a goal just like you are.

Peace on Earth GH
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: evangs on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:31:02
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

after supporting and crusading for hub in the forums this is disheartening to see...not because it is well outside the lines of gb etiquette or because these types of concerns are better suited for the ic process...but because for someone with a project in the air whom one would think understands the struggle of producing any thing in this community i would hope to not see negative energy vibes dumped onto an active endeavor...positive encouragement or a necro hub runback tossup would have been classy



I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

I think I am cancelling my kickstarter pledge for the Hub...

I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

C’mon now...leave the negativity at home. The MiniVan isn’t the only type of keyboard available...so you could build another board & choose to put Necro on it.
I agree with jimirolln - this is a comment that would’ve been suitable for the IC thread...not the GB thread where Brazzers is trying to hit a goal just like you are.

Peace on Earth GH

ah sorry, yeah it is hard to get something produced. I didn't mean to come off as negative as I did. Was more just frustrated as I really like the set and wanted to put it on my board. I do wish the best to Brazzers and hope it succeeds.
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Post by: shower_king on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:32:14
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

C’mon now...leave the negativity at home. The MiniVan isn’t the only type of keyboard available...so you could build another board & choose to put Necro on it.
I agree with jimirolln - this is a comment that would’ve been suitable for the IC thread...not the GB thread where Brazzers is trying to hit a goal just like you are.

Peace on Earth GH

agree
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 11 April 2018, 23:32:56
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: evangs on Wed, 11 April 2018, 23:37:06
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.

Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.

Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 12 April 2018, 09:50:28
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.

Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.

Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.

Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 April 2018, 10:04:58
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.

Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.

Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.

Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards.  :thumb:

Way to inject some sanity into this thread.  I agree totally, with the sentiment and the solution.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 12 April 2018, 10:09:49
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.

Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.

Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.

Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards.  :thumb:

Way to inject some sanity into this thread.  I agree totally, with the sentiment and the solution.

Less bickering and more support for our community.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Thu, 12 April 2018, 11:46:15
I wanted to get this set, but lack of MiniVan support makes it completely useless for me :/ it won't even fit my 60% as the 200 spacebar was deliberately left out...

Completely useless? LOL... Just like HUB keycaps are completely useless for my HHKB layout because it lacks a R3 175U Control.

Correct legends is not the same as correct profile. Like I said earlier, I came off way more negative than I intended and for that I am truly sorry.

Brazzers, best of luck with this gb, I might get in on some novelties.

Man this is some backlash. We should all be trying to support both of these GB's. HuB and Necro both need to get made. Maybe after Necro meets MoQ, Evan could get together with Brazzers and put out a 40's kit like the one for GMK 9009. That would be a great way to fill in the gaps for some of the smaller boards.  :thumb:

Way to inject some sanity into this thread.  I agree totally, with the sentiment and the solution.

Less bickering and more support for our community.  ;)

Yes!! Bickering gets us nothing except bad moods & empty boards!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Thu, 12 April 2018, 17:18:47
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!

And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.

Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 12 April 2018, 20:02:55
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!

And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.

Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3

This would be awesome. I'm about to drop in and buy from the GB. Just sorting some funds for all these buys happening right now.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: evangs on Thu, 12 April 2018, 20:40:10
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!

And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.

Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3

I would love to do this! do you know if adding a kit on a custom color order is still only 100 units?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Thu, 12 April 2018, 21:06:29
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!

And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.

Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3

I would love to do this! do you know if adding a kit on a custom color order is still only 100 units?
No clue, we can cross that bridge when it comes :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: evangs on Thu, 12 April 2018, 22:09:26
Hi everyone, updated the OP with numbers. We're officially past 70 set sold :) Thanks for all the support so far!!

And also I'm very sorry for the delay on this, I was supposed to get home last night but car trouble kept me about a day extra. Thanks for your patience.

Also I'm glad there was civil discourse while I was gone.
@evangs I'd totally be down to work together to do something similar to the 9009 40's kit in the future, because I do think tiny keebs are cute <3

I would love to do this! do you know if adding a kit on a custom color order is still only 100 units?
No clue, we can cross that bridge when it comes :)

gotcha, well it only really matters if ordered at the same time otherwise it will need to be a full order.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Sat, 14 April 2018, 16:02:40
How about to extend the GB phase as long as it necessary to hit MOQ for base kits?
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Post by: jessica on Sat, 14 April 2018, 16:41:56
How about to extend the GB phase as long as it necessary to hit MOQ for base kits?

With the pacing we're seeing, this is looking like it will be the case :) If it takes 6 weeks, I think that's worth it.

Updated numbers in OP as well :)

Side note: Number updates will be semi-inconsistent in the next few days, my boyfriend is in the hospital and I'm spending as much time with him as I can.
Thank you all for understanding.
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Post by: xondat on Sat, 14 April 2018, 16:42:57
With the pacing we're seeing, this is looking like it will be the case :) If it takes 6 weeks, I think that's worth it.

Updated numbers in OP as well :)

Side note: Number updates will be semi-inconsistent in the next few days, my boyfriend is in the hospital and I'm spending as much time with him as I can.
Thank you all for understanding.

Best wishes to both of you :-*
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Post by: captaincalamari on Sat, 14 April 2018, 16:45:15
I agree that it should be extended. This is honestly the best looking keyset I've seen and it would be a shame for it to not get made.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 14 April 2018, 18:11:37
How about to extend the GB phase as long as it necessary to hit MOQ for base kits?

With the pacing we're seeing, this is looking like it will be the case :) If it takes 6 weeks, I think that's worth it.

Updated numbers in OP as well :)

Side note: Number updates will be semi-inconsistent in the next few days, my boyfriend is in the hospital and I'm spending as much time with him as I can.
Thank you all for understanding.
I bought in and would also be ok with leaving it open until moq hits

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Post by: txclack on Sat, 14 April 2018, 18:51:47
Same, I bought in and would be willing to wait extra time until MOQ is hit.  Let's make this set happen!
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Post by: ptiede on Sat, 14 April 2018, 19:21:40
Same with me! I really want this to succeed.
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Post by: gnunin on Sun, 15 April 2018, 01:55:55
This set needs to come life. Leave it open :)
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Post by: ReverbSlush on Sun, 15 April 2018, 06:06:28
pls let it run longer till it hits! I wonder if any distributors/stores would be interested in grabbing a bunch to sell....
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Nzo on Sun, 15 April 2018, 11:25:27
Extending it would be great if needed, but I’m concerned with the lack of promotion. What exactly is the plan to hit MOQ?
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Post by: captaincalamari on Sun, 15 April 2018, 11:43:44
Extending it would be great if needed, but I’m concerned with the lack of promotion. What exactly is the plan to hit MOQ?
I assume that's what the custom cable and Brocaps artisan is for? Hopefully we get more info on those in the next few days.
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Post by: Talljoe on Sun, 15 April 2018, 12:39:30

It wasn't an easy decision to make for me, but I did decide that since I wasn't explicitly supporting Plancks, for cost saving measures (to help make sure the spacebar kit hit MOQ), I forewent 2u spacebars. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from :)


That's unfortunate, I'm looking to kit out my Clueboard with 2x2U spacebars. With 2x2.25U shifts you're halfway there! Hoping Evan or someone steps in to help.
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Post by: lac29 on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:02:06
I'm kinda waiting to see how this will go. I might put in an order for anywhere from 1-3.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:30:55
Extending it would be great if needed, but I’m concerned with the lack of promotion. What exactly is the plan to hit MOQ?

I'm posting on reddit every 3-4 days, and Instagram just about as frequently :) I'm currently waiting to get pics from Bro, if he has any sample caps!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:31:28
pls let it run longer till it hits! I wonder if any distributors/stores would be interested in grabbing a bunch to sell....
Not out of the question :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:33:02
if i already paid for the base kit and novelties kit, can i still get the spacebars as a separate order?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:33:37
if i already paid for the base kit and novelties kit, can i still get the spacebars as a separate order?

Yup yup, if you order them separate they'll all ship together. No extra shipping cost
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Post by: captaincalamari on Sun, 15 April 2018, 18:35:13
if i already paid for the base kit and novelties kit, can i still get the spacebars as a separate order?

Yup yup, if you order them separate they'll all ship together. No extra shipping cost
sweet, thanks! can't wait to slap this set onto an hhkb
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: pandemic123 on Mon, 16 April 2018, 03:10:49
about to join, let's try to hit 250
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Post by: shower_king on Tue, 17 April 2018, 19:53:49
cross fingers , looking forward this make true. This colorway will be pretty awesome in reality but lack of attention just as GMK Miami night in GB period.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: John McCormick on Wed, 18 April 2018, 03:11:22
Does this kit contain two 1.5 caps? I need them for my favorite 96 layout!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: johuu on Wed, 18 April 2018, 03:31:14
Does this kit contain two 1.5 caps? I need them for my favorite 96 layout!

Have a look into the base kit render. It states two alt and two control keys in R4.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: John McCormick on Thu, 19 April 2018, 14:58:47
Does this kit contain two 1.5 caps? I need them for my favorite 96 layout!

Have a look into the base kit render. It states two alt and two control keys in R4.

Thanks I checked, looks good
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: 537Z3R on Thu, 19 April 2018, 15:26:00
We need to hype this!
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Post by: thatsmealex02 on Thu, 19 April 2018, 16:55:14
canadian dollars is killing me
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: John McCormick on Fri, 20 April 2018, 04:11:01
This only get to production when it reaches MOQ?
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Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Fri, 20 April 2018, 05:23:21
This only get to production when it reaches MOQ?
Correct and I dont believe they make the add on kits if the base doesn't make it

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Daellin on Fri, 20 April 2018, 18:26:35
In for a base and spacebar kit :)

Thought of all the recent GMK sets this one stuck out most to me, and I mentioned before in the previous attempt that if there were split spacebar sets I'd buy it! Hope everything turns out well.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: parityb1t on Sun, 22 April 2018, 09:22:22
This set reminds me a lot of Marie from Skullgirls in terms of both theme and colour :P
Put it on a black board and Bam!

(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/nz4/char/skullgirls/marie-skullgirls-stance.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: pandemic123 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 01:57:59
damn we still are quite far from the 250 mOQ
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jihadu on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:12:57
This set could really use some promotion, especially going against olivia and violet tendencies. Not looking forward for it to fail again
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:21:09
This set could really use some promotion, especially going against olivia and violet tendencies. Not looking forward for it to fail again

srsly this.. I'm in for Olivia (which I believe is going to get made now), and a few others right now... but out of all of them *this* is the set I would most like to see if I could just pick one.  I'm trying to figure out a way to purchase a 2nd one if that will help. 

 I'll take a stroll through massdrop again and see if I can post a few more.

Where the vendors at???  Where the hype for BroCaps at???
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jihadu on Mon, 23 April 2018, 07:30:21
This set could really use some promotion, especially going against olivia and violet tendencies. Not looking forward for it to fail again

srsly this.. I'm in for Olivia (which I believe is going to get made now), and a few others right now... but out of all of them *this* is the set I would most like to see if I could just pick one.  I'm trying to figure out a way to purchase a 2nd one if that will help. 

 I'll take a stroll through massdrop again and see if I can post a few more.

Where the vendors at???  Where the hype for BroCaps at???
I think Jess is doing the best she can, but like you said "Where's the hype". A bunch more people bought into an EPBT set than a GMK set. So we wait and hopefully people will realize what they are missing
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Mon, 23 April 2018, 08:46:08
This is one of my favorite colorsways ive ever seen and I hate seeing it struggle

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: donut_sauce on Mon, 23 April 2018, 08:50:01
I wonder if Jess has considered running this through JTK. I know the quality difference is there but I'd rather see this set happen with JTK than not at all. Not sure how much cheaper it would be though or what the moq would be so this line of thought might be moot.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: OnceSavedGaming on Mon, 23 April 2018, 08:51:05
I suggested this on last topclack. Id buy it in a heart beat

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 10:17:41
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 23 April 2018, 13:14:21
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.

Are there any benefits to waiting? You might be keeping the numbers lower which in turn keeps others from jumping in too.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 13:19:26
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.

Are there any benefits to waiting? You might be keeping the numbers lower which in turn keeps others from jumping in too.

I don't want to tie my money into something when I can put it into something else. It's happened in the past with other GBs. Also the numbers are just way off to be even close to the goal =/.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 23 April 2018, 14:51:02
I don't want to tie my money into something when I can put it into something else. It's happened in the past with other GBs. Also the numbers are just way off to be even close to the goal =/.

that makes sense (begrudgingly).

the numbers you see here are almost a week old though....
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 14:54:11
I'm still waiting to put in my 1-2 orders for the base set but this still looks way off =(.

Are there any benefits to waiting? You might be keeping the numbers lower which in turn keeps others from jumping in too.

I don't want to tie my money into something when I can put it into something else. It's happened in the past with other GBs. Also the numbers are just way off to be even close to the goal =/.
What if 200 other people also do this though

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:19:01
I am wondering if people are holding off because of DMKeys? What other group buys have DMKeys handled?

I think there are probably 4-5 other sites that if they were running the buy it would have succeeded the first attempt. Probably the only reason being people's warm fuzzy with a familiar site.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: captaincalamari on Mon, 23 April 2018, 15:28:19
I am wondering if people are holding off because of DMKeys? What other group buys have DMKeys handled?

I think there are probably 4-5 other sites that if they were running the buy it would have succeeded the first attempt. Probably the only reason being people's warm fuzzy with a familiar site.
I think this is Jessica's own site? As far as I can see this is the only GB they've handled.
Would definitely happen if someone like Massdrop ran it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: kennardsmith on Tue, 24 April 2018, 16:24:15
Well, this set just needs to exist. Put in my order for two of 'em.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:49:31
Any update on the numbers?

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Wed, 25 April 2018, 02:31:29
Any update on the numbers?

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Hi guys, sorry for such mediocre updates the last week or so. Lots of irl problems right now, but I will be home and able to actually update everything tomorrow.
I've got some big stuff in the pipeline here soon. Stay tuned ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xantiema on Wed, 25 April 2018, 05:52:02
I would like to know the current numbers aswell, that'll decide whether I Want to tie some money into this right now  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jihadu on Wed, 25 April 2018, 10:36:11
Any update on the numbers?

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Hi guys, sorry for such mediocre updates the last week or so. Lots of irl problems right now, but I will be home and able to actually update everything tomorrow.
I've got some big stuff in the pipeline here soon. Stay tuned ;)
Looking forward to seeing those numbers :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 25 April 2018, 20:21:23
I would like to know the current numbers aswell, that'll decide whether I Want to tie some money into this right now  :thumb:

the same here
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: thatsmealex02 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 16:22:52
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xantiema on Fri, 27 April 2018, 02:24:44
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: urbantheii on Fri, 27 April 2018, 07:31:15
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?

I am starting to worry...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Nzo on Fri, 27 April 2018, 07:35:46
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?

Agreed. I doubt we’re even close given how far away we were just one week ago. However my biggest concerns right now is that I’m not sure the commitment to drive this is there. Which is a shame since this set is beautiful
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: ptiede on Fri, 27 April 2018, 08:13:58
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?

Agreed. I doubt we’re even close given how far away we were just one week ago. However my biggest concerns right now is that I’m not sure the commitment to drive this is there. Which is a shame since this set is beautiful

I think Jess is busy with real life stuff right now. I few posts ago she said her boyfriend was in the hospital. I don't think her lack of updates is a sign that she has given up on the gb. Some things are more important than Keebs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: gnunin on Fri, 27 April 2018, 13:01:23
Fingers crossed. This set needs to happen :/ Feels really unique & classy in a way.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Blurple33 on Fri, 27 April 2018, 13:58:13
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?

I am starting to worry...

From poking around, it seems like the OP has been updated to say the GB doesn't have a confirmed GB close date. 

"TIMELINE:

March 30: Group buy opens
Unknown Date: Group buy closes
1 week after GB ends: Order will be placed with GMK by this point"

Personally, not really worried too much, yet.  Updates would be nice, esp since the DMKeys site claims daily updates & a GB End date of 27th.  It can get a bit confusing as info doesn't match up. 

Fingers are crossed!  Hoping this set gets made & it's smooth sailing after all the present hiccups are dealt with :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: gnunin on Fri, 27 April 2018, 14:29:52

From poking around, it seems like the OP has been updated to say the GB doesn't have a confirmed GB close date. 

"TIMELINE:

March 30: Group buy opens
Unknown Date: Group buy closes

Totally missed that. Thanks for pointing that out. That's somewhat great news atleast.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: parityb1t on Fri, 27 April 2018, 14:36:54
so any news on the stats since tomorrow is the deadline for the moq???

Practically wondering the same thing, the silence just doesn't any sense at this point...?

I am starting to worry...

From poking around, it seems like the OP has been updated to say the GB doesn't have a confirmed GB close date. 

"TIMELINE:

March 30: Group buy opens
Unknown Date: Group buy closes
1 week after GB ends: Order will be placed with GMK by this point"

Personally, not really worried too much, yet.  Updates would be nice, esp since the DMKeys site claims daily updates & a GB End date of 27th.  It can get a bit confusing as info doesn't match up. 

Fingers are crossed!  Hoping this set gets made & it's smooth sailing after all the present hiccups are dealt with :thumb:

I did hear a while back that OP is busy with real life. completely understandable, it happens, TKC is delaying GMK Terminal as well, peeps just gotta do their stuff and priorities could mean lack of update, but OP did already say she was busy.

This set is just too classy to miss, with a brocap raffle and I think also a few other giveaway raffles going on for it, I think we're just waiting for a comeback in terms of hype. I feel like other keysets were certainly hanging over this one like Troubled Minds, Pulse, Olivia and Terminal, but definitely in for this and hopefully when those other sets blow over people will look over here :) Just gotta get that next month's paycheck
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:36:47
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:44:20
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:47:40
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Yup
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sun, 29 April 2018, 00:23:09
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Yup

Cool
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sun, 29 April 2018, 01:36:22
Finally got my funds straight and went in on all 3 kits.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: gnunin on Sun, 29 April 2018, 02:29:03
Great to see you back Jess. All the best to you & your boyfriend! Pumped about that surprise. Lets make this set happen! 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:59:07
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Yup

Do you have any numbers as to what the current total is/how far we are from the MOQ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Arioch on Sun, 29 April 2018, 04:06:52
Pre-ordered the full set.
Would it be at all possible to get matching Apple keycaps?
Yes, Mac users love decent keebs too!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:16:01
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Yup

Do you have any numbers as to what the current total is/how far we are from the MOQ?

She updated the original post. About 145 away from MOQ on base kit.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: parityb1t on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:26:37
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Glad to hear from you. Hope everything works out for you. So the buy is definitely going to stay live until we meet MoQ?
Yup

alright!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: azachhh on Sun, 29 April 2018, 05:58:19
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.

Please don’t be sorry to us.
Your and/or your boyfriend’s health is 100x more important than anything related to keyboards.

But I am very excited about the exceptionally good stuff that’s on the way!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Sissy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 21:22:53
Hello all,

Very very sorry for the radio silence on my part. It's unprofessional and for that, I'm very sorry. As people have said, I've been quite busy with IRL stuff (more doctor visits this last week than I've had all year..)

So, update time:
I've got some very very big stuff in the works rn, and I'm not at liberty to say currently but you all will be excited. I know it seems iffy right now but believe me when I say that I've got exceptionally good stuff coming.
Thanks for all your support you guys, it really does mean the world to me.
Big if true
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: gnunin on Tue, 08 May 2018, 00:16:04
Any news on those numbers?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: 537Z3R on Tue, 08 May 2018, 02:22:38
Health is first, we'll still be here when you are ready :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: urbantheii on Tue, 08 May 2018, 08:40:28
Health is first, we'll still be here when you are ready :)

This ^. We are all super excited for this set like kids during Christmas time, but we can wait longer if need be.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: jessica on Thu, 10 May 2018, 02:27:14
Hello!

I will update the numbers first thing tomorrow morning, since I can't from my phone. I also have very very exciting news early next week!!! I'm sure you're all gonna love it and am very excited to share it with everyone

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 10 May 2018, 06:07:36
https://originative.co/news/

necro


:)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Live at DMKeys.com
Post by: Petch on Thu, 10 May 2018, 06:12:53
Imagine holding back and hyping news for so long and it turns out to be just that the set is on oco - and then they go and leak it  :D :D :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big Update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 11 May 2018, 15:55:41
Hi everyone, big official news here!

Originative have decided to buy out the GMK Necro group buy, to ensure the set gets produced.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to transfer orders from our website to theirs.
So starting tonight (May 11, 5PM PST) all current GMK Necro orders from DMKeys.com will be refunded, with future orders for GMK Necro being handled by Originative.

I understand how inconvenient this is for everyone who has participated, so to make up for it, any customers of DMKeys who order Necro through Originative will be automatically entered into a raffle for the opportunity to purchase an exclusive Necro themed Fugu artisan by EatTheFood.

The set will cost $180 dollars on Originative, but will include the base set and both child kits, seen below.
(https://i.imgur.com/6FHZNMX.jpg)
This effectively lowers the cost, while including more keys.
The product page will be live early next week at https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro

Additionally, there will be matching artisans from BroCaps as well, so I'll keep you guys updated about that.
Everyone should all be getting an email soon as well, stating basically this same stuff.

Again, thank you everyone for the massive support for this set, I'm so happy to see it finally come to reality.

(Any orders from zFrontier or MyKeyboard.eu will be unaffected by this, so only North American buyers need to care about this, and an update will be posted on reddit next week when the oCo page is up)


Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 11 May 2018, 16:03:39
Good news thanks to sherry for helping us get this set.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: gridds on Fri, 11 May 2018, 16:21:55
Thanks for the update I've been watching for a bit, definitely in for a set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Daellin on Fri, 11 May 2018, 16:58:06
As much as I'm paying an additional $10 + shipping as I've previously ordered base+spacebars ($170), I'm just happy this set is going to be made! Plus I get the novelty kit. Congrats Brazze- er, CuteDreamsOfYou!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: portbaron on Fri, 11 May 2018, 18:02:21
Will the refund come with a notification of why and what to do to replace the order with originative? Otherwise a lot of people might miss it and not get back in if they don't read the threads in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Fri, 11 May 2018, 18:21:16
Will the refund come with a notification of why and what to do to replace the order with originative? Otherwise a lot of people might miss it and not get back in if they don't read the threads in the next couple weeks.

As someone who had gone in on the buy at DMkeys, I can tell you that I got a email with this information a couple hours ago. 

The credit card hassle is unfortunate, but the new buy in price is nice!

And I'm all for whatever it takes to make this keycap set a reality. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 11 May 2018, 18:35:22
Will the refund come with a notification of why and what to do to replace the order with originative? Otherwise a lot of people might miss it and not get back in if they don't read the threads in the next couple weeks.

An email has already been sent out, and I will be attaching the same info to each refund
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 11 May 2018, 21:42:01
As of now, all orders through my website have been refunded. It may take a day or two for them to clear and everything.

A page will be up on Oco in the next few days.
Thanks again for all your patience and support, everyone :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 11 May 2018, 21:43:21
So excited!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 11 May 2018, 21:56:30
Happy to know that this set will be made can't wait to join again
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: bthezebra on Fri, 11 May 2018, 22:00:49
Ready for the OCO option!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: gnunin on Sat, 12 May 2018, 02:29:20
Yaaaay!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: parityb1t on Sat, 12 May 2018, 09:06:07
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead  :p

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing only not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)

EDIT: corrected stuff about VAT, mykeyboard pricing does include VAT, i meant shipping reduction only with a bonus of mykeyboard handling VAT for us :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:36:11
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead  :p

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
Sherryton has also worked out lower pricing with mykeyboard, so hopefully you all like lower costs ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: xondat on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:39:48
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead  :p

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)

I thought mykeyboard include VAT in their price?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: parityb1t on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:44:40
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead  :p

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)

I thought mykeyboard include VAT in their price?

Ahck yes they do, don't know why I said VAT XD mistake when typing. I meant save on just shipping (bulk I assume).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: parityb1t on Sat, 12 May 2018, 12:52:08
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead  :p

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction ;D its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice :)
Sherryton has also worked out lower pricing with mykeyboard, so hopefully you all like lower costs ;)

Oh nice. Extra zing, cheers :) and can't wait for this set to come now XD
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: MeloDet on Sat, 12 May 2018, 14:13:28
Man this is great! I've been worried this wouldn't make now, so even if it ends up being a little more through Oco (though I'll get more keys too), it's definitely still worth it!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big Update
Post by: Nzo on Sat, 12 May 2018, 15:11:50
Hi everyone, big official news here!

Originative have decided to buy out the GMK Necro group buy, to ensure the set gets produced.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to transfer orders from our website to theirs.
So starting tonight (May 11, 5PM PST) all current GMK Necro orders from DMKeys.com will be refunded, with future orders for GMK Necro being handled by Originative.

So who’s approving the samples? You or Originative?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big Update
Post by: jessica on Sat, 12 May 2018, 16:24:32
Hi everyone, big official news here!

Originative have decided to buy out the GMK Necro group buy, to ensure the set gets produced.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way to transfer orders from our website to theirs.
So starting tonight (May 11, 5PM PST) all current GMK Necro orders from DMKeys.com will be refunded, with future orders for GMK Necro being handled by Originative.

So who’s approving the samples? You or Originative?

Me me me me me me me. I retain 1000% full creative command here.

Plus, I have a really cool setup now to assess colours really well, so the colours will look pretty much exactly how I want them to ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big Update
Post by: gnunin on Sun, 13 May 2018, 00:44:58

Me me me me me me me. I retain 1000% full creative command here.

Plus, I have a really cool setup now to assess colours really well, so the colours will look pretty much exactly how I want them to ;)

Thats really great to hear :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 13 May 2018, 00:53:21
Does that mean pre-orders of necro are on going? Are is there a cut off date? cause it might be a month or two before i can get my order in but would like to have this set!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sun, 13 May 2018, 03:08:29
Does that mean pre-orders of necro are on going? Are is there a cut off date? cause it might be a month or two before i can get my order in but would like to have this set!

Specific details to come in the next few days. From my understanding, preorders will go on for a set amount of time (probably a few weeks), then close, then once the set is physically in stock, there will be a limited quantity for sale at an increased price as per usual :)

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 13 May 2018, 03:13:12
Does that mean pre-orders of necro are on going? Are is there a cut off date? cause it might be a month or two before i can get my order in but would like to have this set!

Specific details to come in the next few days. From my understanding, preorders will go on for a set amount of time (probably a few weeks), then close, then once the set is physically in stock, there will be a limited quantity for sale at an increased price as per usual :)

o nice might have to just see if I can wiggle somethings around then. Cause I really want this set its just unique you know! its like nothing else we seen! One more question for ya who will be shipping this out you are OCO. It kinda sounds like your handling everything there just offering to buy up what was left of the MOQ and worry with shipping part perhaps?
Title: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 13 May 2018, 12:45:15
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead 

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing only not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice

EDIT: corrected stuff about VAT, mykeyboard pricing does include VAT, i meant shipping reduction only with a bonus of mykeyboard handling VAT for us

Some parts of this are not entirely true but may vary for each EU country. Yes mykeyboard does include vat however, when I order something straight from Originative I have to pay VAT on a larger sum. Value + shipping > 21% custom fees. And on top of that a admin fee of at least €13. (This is in The Netherlands)

As said, this may not be exactly the same for all EU buyers but in my case buying from oro is usually more expensive than buying directly in the EU due to custom fees. Obviously this all changes when the package is undervalued. As a company though, this is a bit iffy at the very least.


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: parityb1t on Sun, 13 May 2018, 13:46:41
First of, super super glad this set is gonna go ahead 

Secondly, did some quick maths (which are hopefully correct) for EU buyers.

if you bought from mykeyboard (EU proxy) you were saving some cost of VAT + shipping before compared to buying from dmkeys and handling VAT etc. yourself. I can't remember what the exact numbers were for this. With the new pricing, its pretty much the same price whether you buy from originative or mykeyboard, but you will handle VAT yourself if buying from originative. So you are not missing out any price reduction despite new originative pricing, probably why orders from proxies are not effected even though US orders have a technical price reduction its kinda like you had a reduction before which was a blessing but now its just a smaller blessing only not having to deal with VAT yourself, I hope that is correct ...

Additionally for UK buyers, the Royal Mail extra handling charge still makes mykeyboard.eu the preferable choice

EDIT: corrected stuff about VAT, mykeyboard pricing does include VAT, i meant shipping reduction only with a bonus of mykeyboard handling VAT for us

Some parts of this are not entirely true but may vary for each EU country. Yes mykeyboard does include vat however, when I order something straight from Originative I have to pay VAT on a larger sum. Value + shipping > 21% custom fees. And on top of that a admin fee of at least €13. (This is in The Netherlands)

As said, this may not be exactly the same for all EU buyers but in my case buying from oro is usually more expensive than buying directly in the EU due to custom fees. Obviously this all changes when the package is undervalued. As a company though, this is a bit iffy at the very least.


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I did account VAT on both value + shipping ($202) converted to EUR is €169.1 (as of time of this reply), 20% custom is €33.8 , which is totals to €201.9, mykeyboard original price was €200 so thats not much off, hence I accounted them as 'the same basically' :p Besides, cutedreamsofyou confirmed there might be a price reduction for EU anyway;D so much of what I previously said isn't valid anymore XD

and yh, any admin fee immediately makes it illogical to buy from originative :p

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 15 May 2018, 10:15:16
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 May 2018, 10:17:16
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?

It isn't live yet.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Tue, 15 May 2018, 14:05:21
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?

It isn't live yet.

Yup. It's not out of stock, just not available yet
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: johntron25 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 15:03:00
Is there a reason that it's currently listed as Out of Stock over on OCo even though it says pre-orders end on June 8th?

It isn't live yet.

Yup. It's not out of stock, just not available yet

My body is ready
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Max_P0 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 20:22:53
Anyone has any idea about the shipping price to Canada ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 May 2018, 20:23:45
Anyone has any idea about the shipping price to Canada ?

Add another GMK keyset to the cart and check that way
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: razor_blade on Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:19:58
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:21:40
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?
I got the same thing and already told her about it.  She said she would take care of it

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:23:23
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?

Hi yes, I was just made aware of this and know exactly what's going on.

Basically, Paypal refunded everyone but pulled the money from my personal bank account instead of my business one.
This should, hopefully, be a quick and easy fix. Very sorry about this, but it should all be resolved in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your patience
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 16 May 2018, 17:26:46
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?

Hi yes, I was just made aware of this and know exactly what's going on.

Basically, Paypal refunded everyone but pulled the money from my personal bank account instead of my business one.
This should, hopefully, be a quick and easy fix. Very sorry about this, but it should all be resolved in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your patience

Oh crap, hope PayPal didn’t wipe you out.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 16 May 2018, 17:40:43
O dang that sucks!


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Wed, 16 May 2018, 18:13:34
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 16 May 2018, 18:54:57
Jess, I just got a weird message about the eCheck payment from DMKey being declined by the sender's bank. Any idea what that is about?

Hi yes, I was just made aware of this and know exactly what's going on.

Basically, Paypal refunded everyone but pulled the money from my personal bank account instead of my business one.
This should, hopefully, be a quick and easy fix. Very sorry about this, but it should all be resolved in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your patience

Oh crap, hope PayPal didn’t wipe you out.

I'll be fine, everything should be easy to get sorted since all the money is here
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: djfunh8r on Wed, 16 May 2018, 20:23:07
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 20:24:37
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.
Originative is running the buy now.  I liked that the switch was this easy.  Not sure how that's a negative

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Wed, 16 May 2018, 20:39:20
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

That's a Paypal issue. 
My credit card was refunded back on May 13th. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 16 May 2018, 22:30:01
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.

Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)

If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Arioch on Thu, 17 May 2018, 03:13:44
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.

Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)

If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.

It's not just djfunh8r's personal opinion, when it comes to Europeans customers sharing personal information among companies without explicit consent is considered illegal and will be enforced upon starting the 25th of this month: source (https://www.eugdpr.org).

Just a heads-up for future GB's.

Personally I don't mind if it's done with respect for the customers and for the right reasons as was done in this case.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: urbantheii on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:29:35
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.

Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)

If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.

Do they already know that we previously ordered from DMkeys, or do we still have to put our order number in the notes section to be considered for the raffle?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 17 May 2018, 08:20:00
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Nzo on Thu, 17 May 2018, 08:40:01
Paypal refund says: "We're processing your refund and your money will be available on May 30, 2018."

Why does Originative automatically get my order info and billing information?  Pass.

Originative is running the buy, so I gave them all of my customers contact info to make it as easy on everyone as possible :)

If that puts you off, that's your decision to make.

I’m assuming you only provided email addresses correct?

I personally don’t mind, but I highly recommend against this in the future. With GDPR, someone could technically enforce some hefty fines on you without litigation.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: elfick on Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:21:08
Is this going to be open to people that hadn't yet joined on dmkeys?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Thu, 17 May 2018, 17:51:29
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Hmmm, I don't know what to tell you there.  Make sure you check your spam filters.... but perhaps they're sending the buy links out in waves? 
The invoice I got was a Shopify invoice sent from contact@originativeco.com. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 18 May 2018, 03:41:46
Is this going to be open to people that hadn't yet joined on dmkeys?

Will open in about 10 days :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 18 May 2018, 03:44:08
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.

I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: elfick on Fri, 18 May 2018, 10:02:12
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.

I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Brazzers,
Do you know if peeps that hadn't yet gotten in on the GB will have a chance to join or is OCo just buying the rest and selling them at a markup?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 18 May 2018, 13:00:09
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.

I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Brazzers,
Do you know if peeps that hadn't yet gotten in on the GB will have a chance to join or is OCo just buying the rest and selling them at a markup?

Everyone else will still be able to get in at gb prices :) I'm not sure if there is a limit or not though, so keep your eyes peeled!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: elfick on Fri, 18 May 2018, 13:29:20
I got a email from Originative with a direct link to purchase the Necro set. 
It looks like they imported in all the contact info of people who purchased from DMKeys originally? 

I guess we've gotten first invite at the buy because (as of this posting) the Originative Co. link that was posted earlier to their GMK Necro page doesn't work anymore.

Any who, I've ordered the set once again.

We'll overcome these obstacles and get the set made in the end!


I didn't get an email from Originative.. I'd like to order ASAP...  (I was in the DMKeys gb).  Did I miss something?

Go ahead and email Dylan@DMKeys.com with your order info and I'll make sure Oco has the right info.

I really should get my own email log in for my own website instead of using the one my cousin made when he set it up... :thinking:
Brazzers,
Do you know if peeps that hadn't yet gotten in on the GB will have a chance to join or is OCo just buying the rest and selling them at a markup?

Everyone else will still be able to get in at gb prices :) I'm not sure if there is a limit or not though, so keep your eyes peeled!
Will do!
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: ye_cole on Fri, 18 May 2018, 15:38:09
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Will do!


that's weird, can i please unsee that
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Nzo on Sun, 20 May 2018, 13:19:58
Just joined OCO's GB!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Sun, 20 May 2018, 13:53:38
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: elfick on Sun, 20 May 2018, 18:00:44
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sun, 20 May 2018, 21:52:52
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.

Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 20 May 2018, 21:55:02
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.

Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
Any news on the refund?

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Sun, 20 May 2018, 22:01:45
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.

Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon

Thank you for the clarification, Brazzers!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sun, 20 May 2018, 22:17:16
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.

Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
Any news on the refund?

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My bank doesn't tend to do anything on Sundays, so I'm gonna both Paypal and my bank a call tomorrow, and make sure it gets taken care of as quickly as possible. Very sorry about the delays, this honestly should have been resolved by now :/
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Nzo on Mon, 21 May 2018, 07:40:22
My refund was already posted back to my CC. Might be up to banks/credit card at this point
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: elfick on Mon, 21 May 2018, 10:33:26
I really don't know why they're waiting to open up the public page for Necro.... unless they don't want it to interfere with Honeywell buying at the moment. 
But I don't see much conflict here.  Most people are going to prefer one over the other, and not struggle between deciding which one of the two they'd want to buy.
The only reason I can see is because they are going to buy out the rest of the set to sell at retail price. I'd be really unhappy with this as I was planning on joining the GB but was in no hurry since it was specifically stated there was no end date. I think that would be really uncool strategy so I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Edit: their news now has this:
"NECRO sets are being invoiced, so please be on a look out for that. If you had a DMKEY order, did not get an invoice order from us, please let us know to be entered for the special raffle :)"
So I'm definitely getting concerned that the GB is now effectively closed.

Just made it completely clear with Sheraton, and there WILL be a normal group buy, he's just letting my customers get in first for their chance at a Fugu. Regular GB opens soon
That's great news, thanks Brazzers!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Mon, 21 May 2018, 13:57:11
My refund was already posted back to my CC. Might be up to banks/credit card at this point

About $3,000 worth of orders have been refunded. The remaining ~7k are what's held up right now
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:07:33
Hey Jessica, I'm just trying to get a better understanding re: alpha colors and which renders are closest to what we might expect for alpha colors. I have here the GMK render from the IC. The colors in general appear to be more washed out than the render in the GB OP. Just wondering if maybe colors when slightly modified since the GMK render/which render you think is probably the most accurate representation of the alpha base color.

(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Arioch on Wed, 23 May 2018, 03:30:31
Anyone know a nice 60% case to match this set?
Preferably aluminum. Black is too harsh, silver too plain, ... Ah, first world problems.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Wed, 23 May 2018, 05:09:40
Anyone know a nice 60% case to match this set?
Preferably aluminum. Black is too harsh, silver too plain, ... Ah, first world problems.

I've been thinking of a wood case.
You know, to symbolize a coffin.
;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Arioch on Wed, 23 May 2018, 06:48:20
Interesting line of thought there.
Now onto picking a wood stain. ^-^
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 23 May 2018, 09:16:17
Just got an email saying that the refund could not be completed and was cancelled.

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 23 May 2018, 09:19:18
Just got an email saying that the refund could not be completed and was cancelled.

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Same here
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: txclack on Wed, 23 May 2018, 09:53:52
Just got an email saying that the refund could not be completed and was cancelled.

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Same here

Same.  Just to give a few more details, I just received the email that stated that "the Refund Did Not Complete". 

After logging in to PayPal, my "pending order" is no longer listed and I do not have any funds refunded.

So, yes, the refund has been cancelled.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: xosk on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:16:25
I also received that email
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:27:09
Hello, what a way to start my morning...

So, IDK what the Hell Paypal did. I'm gonna spend the day on the phone with them to get this all sorted, because frankly this should have been sorted ages ago.

I'm very sorry for all the inconvenience this has caused, and thank you all for being understanding of the ****-show that is Paypal
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: razor_blade on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:42:25
Echoing what others have said; I received a similar "refund failed" this morning. Good luck with PayPal, Jessica! I'm sure it will get sorted out eventually.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: txclack on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:07:39
Thanks Jessica <3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:20:27
First phonecall complete.

Paypal should be fixed, now I just need to call my bank and get THAT end sorted.

Dear lord please work

Edit: Off the phone with my bank, back on with Paypal. In the home stretch, I believe.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:52:13
I sure am glad I had used a credit card and avoid the Paypal hassle.  Feel bad it's happening to all you guys though. 

But when you have this Necro set right in front of you finally, you can look back at all these mishaps and false starts as a badge of honor for finally making it a reality. 

To me, that sort of history adds value to the final product. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:55:21
Interesting line of thought there.
Now onto picking a wood stain. ^-^

I've had my eye on this one here lately....
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95359.0;topicseen
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: goodman247 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 13:26:55
Hi!! Just wondering if there is any update on the GB for US market. Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: txclack on Thu, 24 May 2018, 15:19:23
Just received my refund on PayPal.  Thanks Jessica for taking the time to sort that out!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 16:26:53
Just received my refund on PayPal.  Thanks Jessica for taking the time to sort that out!
Nice still nothing here

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: captaincalamari on Thu, 24 May 2018, 17:48:38
still nothing for me either. bummer, just waiting to get the refund to join in again
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Thu, 24 May 2018, 18:24:47
Hi!! Just wondering if there is any update on the GB for US market. Thanks!!

The buy page for Originative will be up in a couple days!

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Thu, 24 May 2018, 18:25:16
still nothing for me either. bummer, just waiting to get the refund to join in again

Will have it sorted in the next day or so, hopefully. Everything seems to be clearing out nicely
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 25 May 2018, 18:27:54
Hello, lots to say.

All funds are properly available and easily handled.
Refunds will be going out over the next day or so. Everything should go smoothly, but if any snags come about, I'll be sure to contact people indivdually
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sat, 26 May 2018, 21:53:53
Hello, lots to say.

All funds are properly available and easily handled.
Refunds will be going out over the next day or so. Everything should go smoothly, but if any snags come about, I'll be sure to contact people indivdually

So, some transfers might take up until the 31st to clear, which would be a bummer.

However, I can now give a total deadline of the 31st for every single refund to be processed!
Sorry for the wait :( I'm really trying my hardest here but sometimes life just doesn't cooperate with you..

Thank you all for understanding and your patience is incredibly appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Bits on Sun, 27 May 2018, 17:06:45
Thanks for the regular updates on the situation :)

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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sun, 27 May 2018, 17:31:18
Thanks for the regular updates on the situation :)

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A lot of stuff is out of my direct control here, unfortunately :/ So the next best thing I can do is keep people informed about where their money is, and when they will have it back in their bank accounts :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: goodman247 on Sun, 27 May 2018, 22:33:28
Truly appreciate your update on this!! Even though I was not part of the original US GB, just following this gives me confident to join once it's up :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: djfunh8r on Wed, 30 May 2018, 15:30:56
Any further update on this following the holiday weekend in US?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Wed, 30 May 2018, 15:50:02
Any further update on this following the holiday weekend in US?
Finally able to get GH to load after like 2-3 days.

The last of the bank transfers should clear tomorrow, which means that I should be able to issue refunds tomorrow night!

I really appreciate all of you guys being so understanding of this huge, for lack of a better word, clusterf--k.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: KeLorean on Fri, 01 June 2018, 00:59:22
my ca66 is gonna have to wear these caps until necro arrives. then ppl are gonna say, “Wow! why didnt i get those caps?”



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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Fri, 01 June 2018, 19:24:58
Alright, almost all refunds have gone out, check your Paypals.

If you have not received anything, please check your email as I have contacted you directly explaining the hold up (just waiting on my bank to give me a card for my business account so these certain transactions can be finished)

Unfortunately, due to Paypal screwing up twice, the previous refund transactions were entirely closed. This means I had to send the money back through friends and family, which should have no fees, but there might be exceptions. I'm very sorry, but this specific circumstance is out of my control :(

If, for whatever possible reason, you have not recieved anything (money or email) please contact me directly at JessJimenez000@gmail.com and we'll get you sorted out :)

Thank you everyone for this, and waiting through this mess with me
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Starius on Tue, 05 June 2018, 21:41:25
I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere around here yet, but it looks like the Originative GB (North America) start for Necro is Thursday, June 7th.
https://originative.co/necro-co (https://originative.co/necro-co)

So... back from the dead... it rises from the grave! 

;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: KeLorean on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:22:15
my refund was processed. thx jess, gl! go necro!


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: forstsiven on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:11:53
I decided to not join this drop b/c I went with a different, non-matching case color, but my priorities for what I want have changed and I was considering picking this up: after the paypal confusion, this drop/GB is still a go, correct?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:20:51
I decided to not join this drop b/c I went with a different, non-matching case color, but my priorities for what I want have changed and I was considering picking this up: after the paypal confusion, this drop/GB is still a go, correct?


YUP!! welcome aboard.

https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro (https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: EternalD on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:20:14
So the GB beings today? I'm glad to see this set getting some love after the last attempt:)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Thu, 07 June 2018, 17:08:05
https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro

Buy it here thanks I love you
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 08 June 2018, 13:43:31
I confirmed the purchase made in the previous GB.  :thumb:

KMK labs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 09 June 2018, 03:03:40
(https://i.imgur.com/cVv3Vjm.jpg)

little insta image should anyone wanna help promote the GB on oco

<3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: jessica on Sat, 09 June 2018, 15:43:20
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cVv3Vjm.jpg)


little insta image should anyone wanna help promote the GB on oco

<3

ilu bunny
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Duckunderscore on Sat, 09 June 2018, 22:02:43
Oco has the rest of these sets right? I'm definitely gonna get one down the line.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Big update
Post by: Daellin on Sat, 09 June 2018, 23:12:32
Oco has the rest of these sets right? I'm definitely gonna get one down the line.

Like extras once GMK delivers? They usually do.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Mon, 11 June 2018, 13:54:26
Hi all, cool update here.

I've got some initial colour samples from GMK coming in soon!

I'm excited to share them with you guys when I have them in hand :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: johuu on Mon, 11 June 2018, 15:14:56
Just for your interest mykeyboard.eu invoiced me for the price difference today.  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: borg on Wed, 13 June 2018, 17:33:34
Hi, awesome set! I was wondering for how much longer this would be available to buy and if I’m in Australia would I still order from originative? Or would I go through zFrontier?


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 June 2018, 17:36:02
Hi, awesome set! I was wondering for how much longer this would be available to buy and if I’m in Australia would I still order from originative? Or would I go through zFrontier?

Group buy closes July 6th on Oco.

Just check pricing for each place and compare, it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 23 June 2018, 00:17:25
Any updates on the samples Jessica?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sat, 23 June 2018, 17:13:42
Any updates on the samples Jessica?

I got samples based on the RGB colours provided for renders, here is a mostly colour corrected picture.
(https://i.imgur.com/YUj3gNI.jpg)

I'm not happy with them, the gray and light blue look nice, maybe I'll use them for another set. But for Necro, none of these colours are right. The green is well.. basically white. The gray is too white, the light blue is the closest to being good, but it work the way I want it to, and the dark blue is too dark.

GMK will be producing samples for me soon based on some Pantone colours I picked out that I think will be good.

I'll keep you guys posted on this, I just didn't really bring these up because frankly, they're entirely unremarkable and don't represent the look I'm going for
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sat, 07 July 2018, 11:30:35
This buy was going to end on the 6th initially. But are you going to keep it going for now?
Perhaps until you're satisfied with the color samples, Brazzers?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Sat, 07 July 2018, 16:31:40
Still not too late to enter, I suppose? :)

I was wondering about the MyKeyboard.eu prices, it's essentially 223USD for the base kit, without novelties and space bars - while originative.co is 180USD for base and all the addons?

Just sucks to be European, or what's the deal? :)

Edit: I now see that the mykeyboard.eu pre-order included all the kits, but still a 43 dollar difference. :O zFrontier is the mentioned case above, though.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sat, 07 July 2018, 22:22:39
This buy was going to end on the 6th initially. But are you going to keep it going for now?
Perhaps until you're satisfied with the color samples, Brazzers?

I am not running the buy, that is entirely up to Sheraton.

I've been working on the colours with GMK behind the scenes for the last 3 weeks
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Sun, 08 July 2018, 09:35:00
Bought in today, let's hope the colors turn out the way you envision them. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Chewie B on Thu, 12 July 2018, 21:43:30
This buy was going to end on the 6th initially. But are you going to keep it going for now?
Perhaps until you're satisfied with the color samples, Brazzers?

I am not running the buy, that is entirely up to Sheraton.

I've been working on the colours with GMK behind the scenes for the last 3 weeks

Thank you for the updates! Please keep us updated, both good and bad news.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: vpr on Thu, 12 July 2018, 23:10:36
Accompanying deskmats for keysets seem to be all the rage right now, any chance of a GMK Necro deskmat or would that be up to Originative?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Sat, 14 July 2018, 19:07:30
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.

They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sat, 14 July 2018, 21:16:51
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.

They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.

Thanks for the clarification on that Emir, it's good to know. 
It is reassuring, right you are.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 15 July 2018, 02:01:15
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.

They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.

Oco are doing basically the same thing.

Let's say Oco orders 250 sets, they will keep the orders open until they sell 250 sets, but the orders have been placed with GMK so now it's the waiting game
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Mon, 16 July 2018, 13:47:28
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.

They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.

Oco are doing basically the same thing.

Let's say Oco orders 250 sets, they will keep the orders open until they sell 250 sets, but the orders have been placed with GMK so now it's the waiting game

Yep yep! Really excited! How are things on your end? Nearing a satisfying sample result?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Mon, 16 July 2018, 23:15:39
All right, as both mykeyboard.eu and originative still have it up as a pre-order, but wrote that orders to GMK would be sent the 6th of July - I asked mykeyboard.eu about it.

They said that they will purchase a certain amount of sets regardless of how many pre-order, so as long as the pre-order button is up, you will receive a set. That's reassuring, I was a bit worried my specific order did not make it to GMK as I ordered the 8th, but they let me know that I will get my set once they receive the stock. I did not inquire originative about it, but as it's coordinated with mykeyboard.eu I am guessing it's the same over there, as they also front a pre-order button.

Oco are doing basically the same thing.

Let's say Oco orders 250 sets, they will keep the orders open until they sell 250 sets, but the orders have been placed with GMK so now it's the waiting game

Yep yep! Really excited! How are things on your end? Nearing a satisfying sample result?

Got some really good samples coming soon, but GMKs supplier company or whatever are currently backed up a bit right now so should be about 7-10 days I think!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: gnunin on Tue, 17 July 2018, 12:42:05
Very excited for those samples :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:52:06
Wow, I feel like such a kid counting down the days - but here we are. 10 days down, any news? :D Perhaps next week if not yet? I've not been this excited for some pieces of plastic in a while. :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 26 July 2018, 02:11:44
Wow, I feel like such a kid counting down the days - but here we are. 10 days down, any news? :D Perhaps next week if not yet? I've not been this excited for some pieces of plastic in a while. :D

Just waiting on samples from GMK, I'll email tonight to check in.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 29 July 2018, 04:54:09
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 29 July 2018, 15:15:29
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance

KMK Labs.

order placed with GMK, sets should be coming in the next 2-3 months i imagine
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 30 July 2018, 08:28:10
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance

KMK Labs.

order placed with GMK, sets should be coming in the next 2-3 months i imagine

perfect thank you very much for reporting

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 01 August 2018, 12:30:34
I wasn't able to follow the latest updates after merge kits, I would like to know if the date remains the same or will be postponed. Thank you in advance

KMK Labs.

order placed with GMK, sets should be coming in the next 2-3 months i imagine

YESSSSSSSS. I am so excited for this!!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 02 August 2018, 11:11:38
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :O
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Thu, 02 August 2018, 12:53:47
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :O
I

That thought crossed my mind too, but I didn't want to be the one to say it.  😆
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 02 August 2018, 12:56:44
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :O
I

That thought crossed my mind too, but I didn't want to be the one to say it.  😆

For "small" vendors GMK won't do samples until an order is placed, like how Camping and Taro had to do. So for the most part unless you're doing a set through MD you won't see final samples until sometime after the order is placed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Thu, 02 August 2018, 13:43:35
Should we be worried that GMK got the order without finalized samples? :O
I

That thought crossed my mind too, but I didn't want to be the one to say it.  😆

For "small" vendors GMK won't do samples until an order is placed, like how Camping and Taro had to do. So for the most part unless you're doing a set through MD you won't see final samples until sometime after the order is placed.

Very interesting! Thank you for the clarification!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 02 August 2018, 14:36:50
So it was brought to my attention that the wording of my last update was kinda ambiguous, sorry.

To clarify, the ORDER is placed with GMK, but like someone else said, samples weren't provided until the order was placed.

No production has begun yet. I will be getting new samples on Monday or Tuesday, and hopefully I'll be able to greenlight these colours :)

Thanks for the support guys, sorry for my brain being fried haha
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 07 August 2018, 11:05:47
How were they? :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 09 August 2018, 02:01:35
How were they? :D

Still don't have them  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 12 August 2018, 12:18:45
So I got the new samples and they are absolutely wonderful.

I will try to get a good colour quality picture so you guys can see, but just know that the colours match the renders really well, specifically this one
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)

Believe it or not, the green especially is super accurate. I think you'll all enjoy it :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sun, 12 August 2018, 12:45:57
Excellent news! 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 14 August 2018, 09:04:11
Oh, those are welcome news! Any photos? :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: parityb1t on Tue, 14 August 2018, 16:55:40
woop woop. this is great news!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Tue, 14 August 2018, 18:39:43
(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)

Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.

Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.

Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black

I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Tue, 14 August 2018, 20:11:27
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)


Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.

Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.

Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black

I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully

I agree with you 100% on that assessment of colors. I'm glad you're not rushing into it with excitement and choosing the first sample right away (cause I know I easily could in your situation). Taking a bit of time and trying for a slightly different lighter shade of blue is a good idea.  It looks good, it looks close, but you're right - its just ever so off from your original color palette. 

That navy contrasting on top of the right shade of light blue though, that's going to look fantastic!
Thanks for sharing the samples!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 15 August 2018, 01:11:46
I would say the gray and lighter blue colors are off, the gray could be due to lighting, though. The light blue is actually light green according to the renders, so it's even on the wrong color scale to begin with. The gray worries me, too, as currently (according to camera shots which I understand aren't 100% accurate) all the modifiers backgrounds are the wrong color.
(https://i.imgur.com/gicLLHk.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Wed, 15 August 2018, 09:47:54
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)


Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.

Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.

Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black

I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully

The blue looks off and throws off the entire color scheme imo.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:14:19
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H2CMtnn.jpg)


Pictures of the caps in as best of lighting as I can get.

Upon initial inspection, the blue looked like what I wanted but I checked it out in multiple lightings and I've decided I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue.

Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful, especially in person. The green is fantastic, the gray is the slight tint of blue gray colour I wanted it to be and the dark blue is really good. Dark enough for really good contrast but not too dark that it just looks black

I'll hopefully have a good update soon of the new blue in a week or 2 hopefully

The blue looks off and throws off the entire color scheme imo.

Which is why I'm getting it redone it's like you didn't even read the update.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:16:39
I would say the gray and lighter blue colors are off, the gray could be due to lighting, though. The light blue is actually light green according to the renders, so it's even on the wrong color scale to begin with. The gray worries me, too, as currently (according to camera shots which I understand aren't 100% accurate) all the modifiers backgrounds are the wrong color.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gicLLHk.png)


The gray is completely fine, it's not purple or whatever that colour is. I'll try to remember to get some pictures of it out in different lighting when I can
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 17 August 2018, 02:02:26
I am happy to hear that, and at the same time I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color. :)

I hope we get a more ghastly light green for contrast, if you're aiming for blue colors (which it seems like you are), then we aren't going to get something that matches the renders as they're different color scales as I mentioned earlier. On that note, I think a similar blue color might work too, though. :) Excited for the update in a week-ish time.

(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/IHnSj7o.png)

I know posting samples in threads such as these is double-edged, 1. you don't want to post inaccurate colors and have people be critical when they look different in real life, and 2. if you don't post anything then people get impatient. Thanks for the effort in any case! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sat, 18 August 2018, 20:27:53
Heh heh heh... ahhh... its probably waaaaay to late to request a 2.00 shift key, isnt it? 

Hah... ahh hah... ahhhhhhh. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 19 August 2018, 00:58:30
Heh heh heh... ahhh... its probably waaaaay to late to request a 2.00 shift key, isnt it? 

Hah... ahh hah... ahhhhhhh.
😬😬😬 only a couple months late 😬😬😬
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Wed, 22 August 2018, 18:15:16
Are we still on schedule for October?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Sat, 25 August 2018, 08:48:20
Are the artisans still happening? Or was the raffle already run?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sat, 25 August 2018, 17:45:39
Are the artisans still happening? Or was the raffle already run?

Artisans are still happening yah!

I don't know if the raffle happened yet, but I think it did.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Tue, 11 September 2018, 12:47:11
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:23:35
Any updates?

Just got the tracking number from GMK for the new blue. I guess there were holidays in Germany so the already long wait time for the samples was just exacerbated by holidays.

I should have the new blue tomorrow, though!

..I really hope it's what I want.. But I do appreciate everyone's patience on this, and I hope you can all understand that I'm taking no shortcuts with this set
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:20:07
Any updates?

Just got the tracking number from GMK for the new blue. I guess there were holidays in Germany so the already long wait time for the samples was just exacerbated by holidays.

I should have the new blue tomorrow, though!

..I really hope it's what I want.. But I do appreciate everyone's patience on this, and I hope you can all understand that I'm taking no shortcuts with this set

I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:57:13
Any updates?

Just got the tracking number from GMK for the new blue. I guess there were holidays in Germany so the already long wait time for the samples was just exacerbated by holidays.

I should have the new blue tomorrow, though!

..I really hope it's what I want.. But I do appreciate everyone's patience on this, and I hope you can all understand that I'm taking no shortcuts with this set

I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...

Enter and Arrow key's are all a light shade of blueish green or maybe bluish green grey.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:57:31
I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...

Sorry, what? There is a very definite blue in this set. It's used in the modifiers legends as well as accent keys with another, darker blue for legends on it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 12 September 2018, 16:14:29
I mean, the render does not even sport a blue color, but Ok. Let's hope for the best...

Sorry, what? There is a very definite blue in this set. It's used in the modifiers legends as well as accent keys with another, darker blue for legends on it.

There's a Navy which I think you got right, but there's no blue.

93D0D2 is not blue, as I showed above in multiple image examles, even with HEX.

Don't expect to get something that looks like the renders by searching for baby-/light blues, but you might be able to find a sample you like.

Pretty strange, considering that it's your own set, and you don't even realize that you're searching the wrong color scale.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:11:04
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:16:06
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)

This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: smorc on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:27:00
Gmk plum v2 lul
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:04:24
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)
and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)

Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Gajible on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:51:48
in his/hers mind


Absolute twat. I'm told this was a language barrier issue and not a passive aggressive issue. Apologies.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Sissy on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:56:55
Gmk plum v2 lul
crazy to see this yet again.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 12 September 2018, 20:16:39
Gmk plum v2 lul
crazy to see this yet again.

I have been openly critical of Plum myself. If you think I learned nothing from that experience, you're being intentionally dense.

This is now the 4th round of samples from GMK for this set. I could have called it good enough the first go around and cashed in.
I'm putting forth the effort to make this set look how I want it to, and I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:51:51

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

Despite the needless drama, I’m relieved to see the true color you’re going for.

Though I would caution you on lashing out at your supporters. Take the high road and demonstrate professionalism especially towards an audience who you have asked for their money to support your project. We’ve been here supporting you when things weren’t looking good before OC came in. Answer our questions and alleviate our concerns and move on.

I’m not defending homeboy in any way, but his behavior isn’t an excuse for you to belittle us.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 12 September 2018, 23:13:10
I’m not defending homeboy in any way, but his behavior isn’t an excuse for you to belittle us.

Us?  I didn't see anything directed towards anyone but the poster.  And yeah, it was a little over the top but deserved after that last post.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: kennardsmith on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:21:04
thanks for taking the time to get it right, jessica
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:35:22
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:45:20
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:49:15
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.

I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?

Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.

Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:58:26
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.

I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?

Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.

Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:03:48
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.

I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?

Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.

Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.

Do you even read? Isn't this exactly covered by what I wrote in my previous posts? Jessica chose to share the samples with a color taken, in imperfect lighting conditions - and said NOTHING about it misrepresenting what this person was after. Of course I will base my opinion on that, what else? What's the point of even sharing then? I know it's a dilemma where if nothing is shared, people will be worried/impatient - share and people will criticise like I did - but jessica did not even try to circumvent it by saying "oh yeah, actually it does look a bit different in real life, these are not accurate. I am looking for X by doing X" - UNTIL AFTER I RAISED IT.

I suggest you read all my previous posts before replying to me again.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:11:20
jesus this dude just wants to nit pick eh lol ffs

Uhm, what? Just trying to assist in any way I can to ensure that me, and everyone else that purchased Necro, actually get a product that somewhat resembles what we imagined we were paying for.

Literally, are you color blind? It's way off. That's not nitpicking a few degrees of a color being off, it's the completely wrong scale.

Do these look comparable to you, am I really nitpicking? Left is the sample, right is the official HEX for the render.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gJofYvN.png)


This sole color really makes or breaks the set, it's the one point of contrast - getting it wrong would ruin the set, in my personal opinion. It really worries me that jessica, somehow in his/hers mind, is set on finding some sort of baby blue; to my understanding.

I got a bright, vibrant blue sample from GMK and turned it down because it was too blue. I had no clue that people (read: you) would obsess so heavily over word choice when the colour in the render is pretty obviously a greenish, blueish colour, hard to put a firm label on.

Plus, imagine me going around saying it's green, then you'd just be complaining that I'm not distinguishing it enough from the green of the alphas.

I know what colour it is, and I just describe it as blue because it's more blue than anything else in the set and my lord I thought that would be good enough.

Also, if you wanna get even more obnoxious, colours throughout languages are hard to clearly define too. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TtnD4jmCDQ) this video by Tom Scott. In the title is literally the word 'Grue', which covers this exact topic.
So if it pleases you, this set capitalises on green and gray, while also utilising grue to really add some pop to it.

If you'd like to know the colour I have chosen for the latest batch of samples, I am using RAL 200 80 20 in the RAL Design catalog.
The closest hex value to that is #97D3D1, which is seen here
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N0PbGhk.png)

and for comparison, here is the colour used in the renders
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/v0joHPn.png)


Is this satisfactory? I had no clue someone could be so comprehensively illiterate to not understand that my choice to use 'blue' is a general term, while still being articulate enough to express their concerns.

Also, get the **** out of here saying 'his/her' here; I am a woman. Use the right pronouns since you're so god damn concerned with using the right words.

I was pretty clear in my previous posts that, you as the one running the GB and set, have to be aware of that I can only form an opinion based on what you present. You present inaccurate samples, but don't say that they are inaccurate - of course I will comment on that. Here's my quote:
"I hope you understand that I can only form an opinion based on the image posted by you. If you don't mention anything about it, such as "the gray came out a big X due to the lighting conditions" or something along those lines, then I am going to assume that you are satisfied with that purplish color."
You also said that the blue was close to perfect and you just want a slight change, that does not sound to me like you identified that you got a baby blue, when you should have gotten a desaturated cyan - it says that you are looking for another baby blue (nowhere do you clarify anything about that).

I did raise this in a different way before, but I was ignored - would it kill you to clarify what you mean and clear some worries from purchasers? I can tell you that within different communities where the set is discussed, I am far from alone in assuming/thinking the way I did/do - you are very heavily criticised within communities - especially given your track record.

Also, this just speaks volumes of how childish and incapable you are to run a set in my eyes:
"I frankly couldn't care any less what people think it should look like at this stage of development. I know what it's supposed to look like, no one else. "
What do you mean no one knows what it's supposed to look like? We have the original renders that we based our purchase on - how do we not know what it's supposed to look like? Next time you run a set, how about just leaving a blank page as a preview and tell people to buy, that way you truely are the only one that knows what it's supposed to look like and you can go wild with your "creative vision". This is childish on so many levels, can't believe you actually wrote that.

About your gender, I couldn't care less - obviously it's something that struck you and your defenders hard - while in my eyes I wasn't sure what you are and don't care, so I wrote he/she. I don't know any of your background, I'm new to the community and I see a handle name - that's it. Sorry if it struck you the wrong way, obviously you are very insecure about that part and I did not know - just know that I apologize and I did not mean to make it sound as an insult.

You should seriously reconsider the way you behave, like, what the ****.

TL;DR, let's hope the new sample turns out good.
Renders can only do so much. You ought to just go nitpick at all the other keyset GBs. There's only so much color matching can do and do you seriously expect photos to reflect colors as-they-are? Of course OP will be the only person who knows what it is supposed to look like.

I mean sure, do you happen to know another keyset being ran right now that advertises a black, but the sample turned out to be white?

Of course I am aware that I can't base anything off of photographs, or trust that my screen will present accurate colors - what I can trust is hex color sampling that clearly shows that they're not even close to each other - I can tell the different in a text based format without even comparing the actual colors to know that it's off.

Luckily, jessica clarified that they are indeed looking for a sample that matches the render, and that eases my mind. The problem is the attitude and the way they go about handling this, to me.
Hex color sampling that you did off a photo taken under imperfect lighting conditions... Try going to a printing company with that logic and see if they will laugh you out the door.

Do you even read? Isn't this exactly covered by what I wrote in my previous posts? Jessica chose to share the samples with a color taken, in imperfect lighting conditions - and said NOTHING about it misrepresenting what this person was after. Of course I will base my opinion on that, what else? What's the point of even sharing then? I know it's a dilemma where if nothing is shared, people will be worried/impatient - share and people will criticise like I did - but jessica did not even try to circumvent it by saying "oh yeah, actually it does look a bit different in real life, these are not accurate. I am looking for X by doing X" - UNTIL AFTER I RAISED IT.

I suggest you read all my previous posts before replying to me again.

Oh, I've read all your posts in this thread which is why I'm commenting. Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors. She merely posted it as an update from GMK with regards to the latest color samples she received from them. And hey, use your brain for one moment. Look at the lighting and adjust your hex samples appropriately if you're gonna do color comparison. My word, I had no idea someone could be this dense.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:23:56
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.

"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"

The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?

It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"

This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.

Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?

Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:35:02
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.

"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"

The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?

It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"

This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.

Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?

Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.

Oh we do care. We just place our trust in the GB runner that she knows what she's doing and we let them do their jobs. After all, GMK Plum turned out alright after 18 months in IC so you can be pretty assured that jessica will be doing all she can in her power to ensure that the colors are as accurate as possible.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:38:56
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.

"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"

The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?

It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"

This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.

Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?

Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.

Oh we do care. We just place our trust in the GB runner that she knows what she's doing and we let them do their jobs. After all, GMK Plum turned out alright after 18 months in IC so you can be pretty assured that jessica will be doing all she can in her power to ensure that the colors are as accurate as possible.

Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:49:34
To avoid the quote chain I'll reply this way.

"Nowhere did she state that she was satisfied with the colors"
Then, what is this? For example the gray presented was way off, and it wasn't until I raised the question that she said that the photo actually misrepresents it.
By Jessica: "Though, every other colour is spot on, and absolutely beautiful"

The only raised inaccuracy is for the blue, which isn't even supposed to be light blue to begin with as I mentioned above:
"I'm gonna request a slight change in colour for the lighter blue"
A slight change in colour does not equal switching color scale completely, which is what is required - is it wrong of me to react and raise concerns?

It's one thing not claiming that it's perfect, but not raising imperfections is even worse - that leads users to assume that it is in fact accurate; Jessica even wrote lines such as "as best of lighting as I can get"

This could all have been avoided by better wording and feedback handling by Jessica. Jessica does not seem to understand that this whole situation was given room to bloom due to the person posting inaccurate photos - posting samples in very misrepresenting lighting conditions is asking for trouble. I can understand it to satisfy people looking for updates, but be very clear with disclaimers.

Jessica only cleared up my worries AFTER I raised the issues, which was even ignored for a good few weeks until now. I agree that now we seem to be back on track and I can feel safe, but why even give this unfortunate series of events to even become a situation to begin with?

Also, people thinking that I'm overreacting or blowing this out of porportion, did you even purchase the set? I doubt most of you did, since you apparently do not seem to care at all about the final product or have a care in the world for the "problems" along the way.

Oh we do care. We just place our trust in the GB runner that she knows what she's doing and we let them do their jobs. After all, GMK Plum turned out alright after 18 months in IC so you can be pretty assured that jessica will be doing all she can in her power to ensure that the colors are as accurate as possible.

Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

I believe the term she used was 'openly critical', which let's be real, self-criticism is a common problem among designers. We often wonder how we could have done better, would a color tweaked here result in a better design. Would the picture placement here would have been better 5mm higher and so on. And imo, it turned out alright. Renders wasn't too far apart from actual product and let's be real, it could have turned out worse - like Violet Tendencies.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 13 September 2018, 12:50:05
This set is unique, however the colors turn out I'm sure it'll be highly desired. Should anyone be unhappy with it, there will probably be several that wished they ordered it and will be eager to take it off your hands. Just let Jessica figure out what she likes (it is her set and vision) and chill.

I had a similar-ish issue when I ran Toxic. The color ended up looking yellow next to green things, and green next to yellow things. A very unique color that was a far cry from the original chartreuse I was going for, but I think ended up being pretty awesome. I actually hope the color ends up looking more blue next to true green, and more green next to true blue in a similar fashion. Then you can even mix/match with other sets to great effect.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Thu, 13 September 2018, 12:58:57
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: soilheart on Thu, 13 September 2018, 14:28:36
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.

As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".

So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.

(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: razor_blade on Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:23:00
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.

As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".

So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.

(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)

Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

/rant about digital photography and reproduction

And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 14 September 2018, 01:12:08
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.

As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".

So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.

(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)

Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

/rant about digital photography and reproduction

And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?

I really told myself not to reply, but when people are this dense it's difficult to abstain.

"on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color"
You literally don't need a monitor with color, or a monitor at all for that matter, to sample hex and see that the values are SO off that it's on a completely different color scale. What are you even typing? As I wrote about 10 times now it feels like, OF COURSE I have an understanding for camera shots not being accurate, I'm not stupid - but ANYONE given the lighting conditions of that shot would be able to tell that it is enough correct to the point where you can CLEARLY see that the color is on the wrong scale.

Jessica did confirm that she is looking for a desaturated cyan which is indeed according to renders, so there's no point in replying to me any longer. However, I just wish people would understand that the lack of information at the point when samples were posted made me raise concerns. In my head, the concerns were justified, it's way off, and when Jessica types out "I'm looking for a different blue", then of course I replied in order to ensure that it's an actual desaturated cyan this person is after, and after being lynched for raising justified concerns, I did in fact get an answer.

I'm sad it had to go that far to get information that should've been present without anyone voicing their concerns.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Fri, 14 September 2018, 02:26:56
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

It doesn't really matter if your screen is calibrated or not. If the photo looks completely different in colors than the render (on the same screen) then there is an issue. What is otherwise the point in posting the photo if it is going to be so off?

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 14 September 2018, 03:27:32
I can recommend a good reading of this Wikipedia page for most users replying to me here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_difference

You can mathematically see that a color is off and on the wrong scale, as I explained above. You can do it on a blank piece of paper if you have the values, and see the difference without even having the actual photos. Again, the sample photo clearly has good enough of a lighting condition so that we accurately can differentiate between two separate colors - even if the baby blue in the photo does not look the same in real life by X amount of colorshades. It's like having a Red ball look a few shades off due to lighting, but you still see that it is red - but in reality you need a purple, do you understand now?

In any case, Jessica has cleared up things and to my knowledge there is no reason to worry for now - we can drop this discussion.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:40:05
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.

As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".

So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.

(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)

Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

/rant about digital photography and reproduction

And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?

I really told myself not to reply, but when people are this dense it's difficult to abstain.

"on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color"
You literally don't need a monitor with color, or a monitor at all for that matter, to sample hex and see that the values are SO off that it's on a completely different color scale. What are you even typing? As I wrote about 10 times now it feels like, OF COURSE I have an understanding for camera shots not being accurate, I'm not stupid - but ANYONE given the lighting conditions of that shot would be able to tell that it is enough correct to the point where you can CLEARLY see that the color is on the wrong scale.

Jessica did confirm that she is looking for a desaturated cyan which is indeed according to renders, so there's no point in replying to me any longer. However, I just wish people would understand that the lack of information at the point when samples were posted made me raise concerns. In my head, the concerns were justified, it's way off, and when Jessica types out "I'm looking for a different blue", then of course I replied in order to ensure that it's an actual desaturated cyan this person is after, and after being lynched for raising justified concerns, I did in fact get an answer.

I'm sad it had to go that far to get information that should've been present without anyone voicing their concerns.

We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: pwade3 on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:49:12
Post an update with imperfect color(s) acknowledging they need changed and people overreact.

Go silent waiting for samples and people overreact.

This is exactly why I didn't post the first batch of GMK Taro samples.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:57:37
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

It doesn't really matter if your screen is calibrated or not. If the photo looks completely different in colors than the render (on the same screen) then there is an issue. What is otherwise the point in posting the photo if it is going to be so off?



For all I know, the renders could be off. Jessica might have a cool or hot screen (for example) and that could have affected the renders. All I know is that until you have a verified "chain" of color balancing and calibration, arguing about colors is a little silly and all of us are making large assumptions.

As for why she posted them, it was probably to let people know that things are progressing and that she is fixing color from the samples to match her vision of what they should look like. Not all designers do this. I remember the exact same thing happening when Mito showed the various samples for Laser. In the end, he got it right, but not due to anyone over-analyzing his quickly taken pictures of the samples.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: razor_blade on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:59:55
Post an update with imperfect color(s) acknowledging they need changed and people overreact.

Go silent waiting for samples and people overreact.

This is exactly why I didn't post the first batch of GMK Taro samples.

:rolleyes:

Yep. This guy gets it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 14 September 2018, 08:03:14
Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

It doesn't really matter if your screen is calibrated or not. If the photo looks completely different in colors than the render (on the same screen) then there is an issue. What is otherwise the point in posting the photo if it is going to be so off?



For all I know, the renders could be off. Jessica might have a cool or hot screen (for example) and that could have affected the renders. All I know is that until you have a verified "chain" of color balancing and calibration, arguing about colors is a little silly and all of us are making large assumptions.

As for why she posted them, it was probably to let people know that things are progressing and that she is fixing color samples to her design vision. Not all designers do this. I remember the exact same thing happening when Mito showed the various samples for Laser. In the end, he got it right, but not due to anyone over-analyzing his quickly taken pictures of the samples.
Can everyone calm the f*** down ? If this turns out differently than any of you imagined, you can always sell it later on and make money.

As for colours, I own two gmk sets and both look differently under different lighting conditions, though Plum is a tad more inconsistent than Yuri.

Wait until you have the finished  product on hand before you decide that the world has ended
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: smurkcity12 on Fri, 14 September 2018, 08:50:07

We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.

Sorry, I'm not heart to participate in the Necro color debate (GL with the rest of the GB though!), but I did have to stop and comment when I saw a picture of that singa. Regardless of what it looks like in person, could you send it to me please? PM me for my address  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nineleveno on Fri, 14 September 2018, 08:54:46
I'm just going to post this here:

(https://i.imgur.com/uY9CvVS.png)

The alphas in the top photo are the exact same color as the keycap in the bottom photo in real life, but according to the logic being thrown around in this thread, one is blue and one is purple. Renders also aren't subject to real-world lighting and camera sensor/lens variations, so you can't even make the argument that "I'm viewing them on the same monitor, so they should be the same!"

The fact of the matter is that we don't know what the samples Jessica posted actually look like unless the photo is taken with a decent camera, and with the intent of reproducing colors accurately. The only thing we can say for sure is that the sample in question is definitely not red.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 14 September 2018, 09:42:51
Uhm, so you mean GMK Plum was a success and the final product represented the renders? Literally what Jessica, in this thread just above in a few posts, admitted they ****ed up?

Well, I now understand why you reply the way you do.

You really are arguing just to argue at this point. She's cleared things up in terms of this GB already, and she has already stated what she needed to for Plum. If you don't have faith in her then you can easily request a refund or flip the set. And what does gender have anything to do with our hobby?

At this point you're just throwing a tantrum.

As a Swede (who happens to know that Emir is Swedish as we're in the same discord) it probably makes sense to explain that "he/she" is one of the the correct way to address someone if you don't want to assume gender in Sweden. We simply doesn't have any word for the singular "they" or "their".

So you're basically mistaking his politeness as a personal attack, which probably is the opposite of what he meant, hence him not understanding why you're making such a fuzz over it.

(EDIT: Sorry for continuing the off-topic:ness, btw. But I just couldn't just let it slide as I found it sad how the situation probably arose from a misunderstanding/language barrier issue.)

Speaking of assuming things, I should add in the most important thing here: freaking out over colors in images taken with (what was likely) a cell phone camera, on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color is completely stupid.

We have absolutely no idea what those colors look like in real life and are probably doing worse than guessing. Unless you have a properly white-balanced shot and you are looking at it on a color calibrated screen, reserve judgement. THAT is why we put trust in the GB runner. They get to look at it and decide if it matches their vision of the project (and potentially the pantone colors they have on hand).

/rant about digital photography and reproduction

And in case you feel like trying to throw an appeal to authority or false premise into your argument, I AM in on the buy, so of course I care. I would suspect that most people in this thread are in on the buy. Why else waste time posting here?

I really told myself not to reply, but when people are this dense it's difficult to abstain.

"on your monitor/screen that is most likely not calibrated for color"
You literally don't need a monitor with color, or a monitor at all for that matter, to sample hex and see that the values are SO off that it's on a completely different color scale. What are you even typing? As I wrote about 10 times now it feels like, OF COURSE I have an understanding for camera shots not being accurate, I'm not stupid - but ANYONE given the lighting conditions of that shot would be able to tell that it is enough correct to the point where you can CLEARLY see that the color is on the wrong scale.

Jessica did confirm that she is looking for a desaturated cyan which is indeed according to renders, so there's no point in replying to me any longer. However, I just wish people would understand that the lack of information at the point when samples were posted made me raise concerns. In my head, the concerns were justified, it's way off, and when Jessica types out "I'm looking for a different blue", then of course I replied in order to ensure that it's an actual desaturated cyan this person is after, and after being lynched for raising justified concerns, I did in fact get an answer.

I'm sad it had to go that far to get information that should've been present without anyone voicing their concerns.

We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.

Come on now, why don't you just give up and let this die out? You don't even understand the point that I'm trying to get across - why is everyone so set on replying to me without even attempting to read and comprehend what I am actually writing and raising as concerns?

The point of my post was not to bash the specific color per say, claiming that it has the wrong shade or whatever - for this, the photo per say is completely irrelevant. What I reacted to was that Jessica wrote that this person is looking for a different BLUE - that's what I reacted about. She was clear that she is replacing the color, so why would I freak out over it? Did you ask yourself that?

This is not relevant at all, I am not judging the shade of the color - I am judging the whole color scale.

In your example, I can clearly tell that the Singa is the champagne gold one (I think it's called that, didn't follow the GB) and not the red, the blue or the orange one - that is very obvious regardless of the different lighting conditions. Now, is it obvious because it looks so to my eyes? Partially, but I can tell for sure by sampling hex values from both images and matching them to the other photos of singa (in this keyset, it would be the renders of necro) - by that I can clearly tell which color of the singa you got.

So again, I am not questioning the actual color shade, but the color being on a blue scale, and jessica writing that she's looking for another blue. In the render, the accent is not a blue, THAT is why I was concerned. With the lighting conditions provided in the sample, it is very clear that the lighting is good enough to make a safe assumption that it is in fact a baby blue, or blue at least - when it should be on the green scale in reality. Yes?

Is this clear to you now?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 14 September 2018, 10:39:31
How to Stop Your Child's Whining
1. Refuse to let it bother you.
2. Make sure your child knows what "asking nicely" means.
3. Give praise where praise is due.
4. Hang in there.

Just ignore the lunatic.  He doesn't know how to let go.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:08:18
How to Stop Your Child's Whining
1. Refuse to let it bother you.
2. Make sure your child knows what "asking nicely" means.
3. Give praise where praise is due.
4. Hang in there.

Just ignore the lunatic.  He doesn't know how to let go.  :cool:

I like how you didn't take sides in your post  :p  Very adeptly done!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: titanium on Fri, 14 September 2018, 15:18:35
GB organizer tries to be transparent/give status updates and gets a mosquito trying to suck the life out of her lol.

Hope this doesnt encourage silence as the majority of us do appreciate the communication.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: johuu on Sat, 15 September 2018, 02:03:18
GB organizer tries to be transparent/give status updates and gets a mosquito trying to suck the life out of her lol.

Hope this doesnt encourage silence as the majority of us do appreciate the communication.

This!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Arioch on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:33:29
Give it a rest already.
All this drama isn't worth the time and effort.

Let's get back on topic please! Let's all focus on the good stuff: GMK NECRO KEYCAPS y'all!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Tue, 18 September 2018, 21:08:21
Are the artisans still happening? Or was the raffle already run?

Artisans are still happening yah!

I don't know if the raffle happened yet, but I think it did.

I got an email from Originative, they have NOT done the raffle yet (crossing my finger). P.s. you and this set are amazing. So is everyone else here.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: MeloDet on Thu, 20 September 2018, 20:29:58
Oof. That green looks so good. All the drama aside, the green was what I was most "worried" about. If it turns out as good as it looks, I'm going to be pretty damn happy.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 23 September 2018, 00:58:05
Oof. That green looks so good. All the drama aside, the green was what I was most "worried" about. If it turns out as good as it looks, I'm going to be pretty damn happy.

The green was bizarrely easy to get right, believe it or not. Greens aren't too vulnerable to changes in lighting either, so it should look good in most situations
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Mon, 24 September 2018, 11:49:34
Is there a new estimated shipping date?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 24 September 2018, 17:24:47
[...]

We can include ad hominem to the list of your logical fallacies. I tried to help and you called me names. Nice. Your "mathematical" comparison is a joke, when you have no idea of the white balancing on the shot. And no, I don't think that anyone can eyeball a shot and determine if something is accurate enough. Case and point: pictures of my Singa, in different light, neither are color accurate to what I see with my eyes. You tell me which is the accurate one.
[/quote]

The above shot looks pretty accurate, or at least a lot more than the one on the bottom (that is taken at sunset ?).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Tue, 25 September 2018, 00:44:05
damb jess. love 2 argue abt your ability to pick colours.  >:D

looking forward to it when it's done. whatever it is cause i know you'll pick something good
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: sublyme on Tue, 25 September 2018, 11:58:35
Wish I would have got in on the GB price. The colors look great to me!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 25 September 2018, 12:33:57
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:28:40
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color.  :thumb:

Thank you :)

To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.

PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:37:25
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color.  :thumb:

Thank you :)

To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.

PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)

wait is the set still for sale?? I thought it was sold out until it ships! I might have to buy in assuming funds allow
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:40:37
Drama aside, hope this set is successful and Jess decides on an appropriate color.  :thumb:

Thank you :)

To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.

PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)

wait is the set still for sale?? I thought it was sold out until it ships! I might have to buy in assuming funds allow

https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro Still available to buy, as far as I'm aware :) You do miss out on GB pricing unfortunately, but it is still available
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:15:33
Is there any way I can order just the spacebar kit?
I already ordered from zFrontier, but those only included the base kit and novelties.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: wowremy on Fri, 28 September 2018, 03:05:19

To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.

PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)

Did you take a pic of the "thing you sent them" ? I wanna seeeee :P
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Sun, 30 September 2018, 12:10:28

To give a little update, I wandered around 3 craft stores for about 4 hours last week to find something physical to send to GMK that was the right colour.
I just shipped it off yesterday, and hopefully I should have samples for it soon.

PS it's my birthday on the 2nd, buy yourself a set of Necro as a gift to me ;)

Did you take a pic of the "thing you sent them" ? I wanna seeeee :P

Yeah that's a bad idea... have you not seen the last two pages? lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Morbus on Wed, 17 October 2018, 14:31:38
Heya I'm new here so sorry if this has already been asked but I've been thinking of picking up a set so I'm just wondering when it's expected to ship out to customers? especially to EU/Scandinavia.
Originative says mid December but I couldn't find any finished prototype sets or confirmation of this (again sorry if I just missed it I am a bit lost here) is it referring to when they get it shipped to them?

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 17 October 2018, 23:33:52
Spoiler:
(http://i66.tinypic.com/29x7vpw.jpg)

KMK Labs
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Mon, 22 October 2018, 07:10:36
Spoiler:
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(http://i66.tinypic.com/29x7vpw.jpg)


KMK Labs

I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.

mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Tue, 23 October 2018, 15:47:29
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KMK Labs

I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.

mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?

Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.

So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 24 October 2018, 02:14:50
Wow, awesome news! Here's to hoping that mykeyboard.eu gets them straight from GMK and can ship even earlier to the Europeans. :O Excited!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 24 October 2018, 08:42:52
Spoiler:
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KMK Labs

I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.

mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?

Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.

So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D

OMG OMG OMG sooo excited
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: johuu on Wed, 24 October 2018, 11:05:54
Spoiler:
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KMK Labs

I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.

mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?

Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.

So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D

Great news!

One question: Will the EU orders ship from oco or directly from mykeyboard.eu?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Arioch on Wed, 24 October 2018, 13:18:55
Would've been great to have them for halloween but can't complain though. Just eager. :-X
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 26 October 2018, 16:36:57
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KMK Labs

I wonder if this means that production has started. I tried messaging GMK as a response to the story, but not no reply.

mykeyboard.eu projects the estimated shipping to be mid November, while Originative projects December. I wonder what a realistic time frame would be at this time. Last we know is that Jessica is waiting for another round of samples for the accents, after sending a piece to GMK as reference?

Huh, I honestly thought I had updated you all here. My bad.

So I did get the final colours, production has started. I don't know the exacts but the latest update I have from GMK is "The production is planned to end on Oct 25", and then the usual probably 2-3 weeks for transit from Germany to US, then distro through Oco. So hopefully should be in everyone's hands by end of next month?? :D

Great news!

One question: Will the EU orders ship from oco or directly from mykeyboard.eu?

I can't say with certainty but I believe GMK will be shipping sets directly to Oco, MyKB.eu and to zF instead of all going to Cali then back to Europe and Asia
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 26 October 2018, 16:40:57
Would've been great to have them for halloween but can't complain though. Just eager. :-X

Silver lining, I think they should be beginning their journey from GMK to distributers on Halloween haha
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 28 October 2018, 12:54:33
Oh here is the packaging :)

(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)

Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 28 October 2018, 13:39:21
Now *that* is a seriously cool box!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: razor_blade on Sun, 28 October 2018, 13:43:31
Oh here is the packaging :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)


Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!

Excitement intensifies...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sun, 28 October 2018, 13:55:52
Oh here is the packaging :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)


Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!

That artwork would make a damn cool desk mat, you know.... ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Mon, 29 October 2018, 04:20:41
Oh here is the packaging :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)


Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!

Wow, love it! Mousemats when? :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Sissy on Mon, 29 October 2018, 04:23:01
Oh here is the packaging :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)


Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!

Wow, love it! Mousemats when? :D
would be a sweet deskmat.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Mon, 29 October 2018, 14:33:26
Uhhh... if people are interested in desk mats.. I have literally no idea who to talk to about that one.

Any suggestions? I know Godspeed, Serika, etc have had deskmats done by someone in the community I think who has done a great job, if anyone knows who that is, and I'd be more than happy to reach out to them and look into it!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 29 October 2018, 15:21:48
Uhhh... if people are interested in desk mats.. I have literally no idea who to talk to about that one.

Any suggestions? I know Godspeed, Serika, etc have had deskmats done by someone in the community I think who has done a great job, if anyone knows who that is, and I'd be more than happy to reach out to them and look into it!!


That actually would be me! I can’t take credit for all the designs, but I’ve done quite a few.

If you want to get deskpads going - shoot me an email - mike@novelkeys.xyz.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Mon, 29 October 2018, 17:49:45
Uhhh... if people are interested in desk mats.. I have literally no idea who to talk to about that one.

Any suggestions? I know Godspeed, Serika, etc have had deskmats done by someone in the community I think who has done a great job, if anyone knows who that is, and I'd be more than happy to reach out to them and look into it!!


That actually would be me! I can’t take credit for all the designs, but I’ve done quite a few.

If you want to get deskpads going - shoot me an email - mike@novelkeys.xyz.


(https://i.gifer.com/YyC5.gif)
He's definitely the guy you want to talk to about custom desk mats! :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Mon, 29 October 2018, 22:02:29
Oh here is the packaging :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/phtyUz4.png)


Original artwork by BroCaps, and the packaging and all further promotional artwork done by Bunnylake!

Wow, love it! Mousemats when? :D
would be a sweet deskmat.
I would get one
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: KeLorean on Mon, 29 October 2018, 23:19:24
id probably go for a deskmat if based off this sick cover art


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 30 October 2018, 02:45:02
Thirty buckaroos for a mat and they'll sell like hot cakes!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:36:26
Currently working on it.. I'll keep everyone posted
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 02 November 2018, 09:40:56
Currently working on it.. I'll keep everyone posted

Great to hear!

By the way, did you get a confirmation regarding whether or not production finished last month/by now? Are we facing the shipping waiting game? :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 07 November 2018, 08:29:20
Oh look!

(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)

Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Wed, 07 November 2018, 10:34:43
Oh look!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)


Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Damn I knew something didn't look quite right with the final color of the set when I first saw that picture from instagram. Your color comparison just confirmed my doubt. Oh boy...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Wed, 07 November 2018, 10:50:43
Oh look!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)


Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Damn I knew something didn't look quite right with the final color of the set when I first saw that picture from instagram. Your color comparison just confirmed my doubt. Oh boy...

I hear what you are saying, and trust me I am the first in line to raise doubts if it is justified - but let's not base opinions on a Instagram photo where GMK are clear with that they have difficulties capturing the colors.

I was concerned before in the thread because the accents were on the wrong color scale, something that Jessica cleared up - so let's be patient with this and wait for more photos (some that don't look overexposed like the GMK one), or until we actually have the set. We can confirm that the color scales are at least correct now (accent is green towards desaturated cyan rather than baby blue), so the shade of the color being off is likely due to the photo itself.

Let's hold our horses for now. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: megaforce93 on Wed, 07 November 2018, 11:07:55
Oh look!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iqZcCOT.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/J6oRDEy.png)


Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself! :)

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.





post their pms with the names showing

it'll be hilarious
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 07 November 2018, 11:48:47
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 07 November 2018, 16:55:19
I am looking forward to having the set in hand. The Instagram out of focus caps look to have a hue more akin to what I am expecting rather than the baby blue.

Also based on some of the responses in this thread I am absolutely obligated to get the salty kit
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Wed, 07 November 2018, 22:57:04
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out?  Looking forward to the set!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Wed, 07 November 2018, 23:00:16
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out?  Looking forward to the set!

100% satisfied with the colours of the set. Pictures downplay how pretty this set is.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 08 November 2018, 01:23:50
I am looking forward to having the set in hand. The Instagram out of focus caps look to have a hue more akin to what I am expecting rather than the baby blue.

Also based on some of the responses in this thread I am absolutely obligated to get the salty kit

The out of focus keys (f-keys) are not the accent color, those are the alpha color. You shouldn't compare it to the whole baby blue debacle as they aren't part of that discussion to begin with. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Thu, 08 November 2018, 09:27:42
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself

Let's be careful with statements like this, as a GB runner you should be careful and take responsibility for promises like this. We saw what could happen when you casually type out something in this thread and then it turns in to the wild west in here. :D

With that said, you expect us to have the set in our hands within the next week? That's a bold statement. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 08 November 2018, 16:28:11
IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself

Let's be careful with statements like this, as a GB runner you should be careful and take responsibility for promises like this. We saw what could happen when you casually type out something in this thread and then it turns in to the wild west in here. :D

With that said, you expect us to have the set in our hands within the next week? That's a bold statement. :)

1. All I'm saying is the set is hard to take pics of. I don't personally have the means to take an accurate picture and GMK went with a more artistic shot rather than accurate when it comes to the colours.
So the logical third option is to wait until it gets in the hands of community members with better setups and accurate pictures will make their way around.
I really wish you (and I do mean you specifically) would take a moment to properly read my messages, rather than constantly behaving like a child on the verge of a tantrum looking for anything to start screaming about.

2. At the time of me writing that message, that was the estimate; however, there were some delays on the sorting or whatever. It should be shipping out from Germany to distributors "soon", but they didn't give me any dates.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ygor on Thu, 08 November 2018, 19:13:25
(http://www.relatably.com/m/img/passive-aggressive-memes/heres-my-passive-aggressive-meme-expressing-my-current-feelings-in-hopes-i-prove-a-point-or-piss-someone-off--d1771.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Thu, 08 November 2018, 22:03:03
Sorry I just dont understand how theres this much scrutiny, this painfully mypoic behavior against this gb runner for this particular set. If you get the set and you hate it then its certainly the time to discuss it. Not sure what anyone is accomplishing by scrutinizing photos of how the set may look, based on photos, especially since they are shipping soon.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Fri, 09 November 2018, 00:04:12
I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out?  Looking forward to the set!

100% satisfied with the colours of the set. Pictures downplay how pretty this set is.

Great news, can't wait to get mine!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:50:25
Please keep this discussion respectful and on topic.  This thread will be cleaned up if there is any more high-intensity arguments with the group buy runner that are not contributing to the positive progress of this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:36:02
Quick update:

GMK has sent me my sample set, it will be here on the 14th according to FedEx tracking (which is always accurate, if not faster)

I'll try my best to get some pretty pics of it on my X60, since I think the set will look really nice on a dark gray alu board
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:39:37
Quick update:

GMK has sent me my sample set, it will be here on the 14th according to FedEx tracking (which is always accurate, if not faster)

I'll try my best to get some pretty pics of it on my X60, since I think the set will look really nice on a dark gray alu board
I cannot wait!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Fri, 09 November 2018, 21:51:12
 Can we all agree not to freak out when she posts pics? :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Fri, 09 November 2018, 22:41:37
Can we all agree not to freak out when she posts pics? :)

Dude let it sink. Nobody's been saying anything so far. Don't shake it up and creates more drama. Just let it die down peacefully.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Sat, 10 November 2018, 18:58:25
So Jessica, you're getting your hands on a set around the 14th. Originative still says mid-December. Would it be too ambitious to speculate when originative will get their hands on the sets to ship?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Sun, 11 November 2018, 01:01:19
Highly interested in a desk mat matching the tray design shown in this thread.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 11 November 2018, 13:02:19
So Jessica, you're getting your hands on a set around the 14th. Originative still says mid-December. Would it be too ambitious to speculate when originative will get their hands on the sets to ship?

Timelines have changed a good bit so I can't say anything for sure. All I've got is "Soon" from GMK :P That said, Sherry has told me that he just put mid-December on the page to be cautious.

Feel safe to say that pretty much everyone, realistically, should have their sets by mid-Dec

Highly interested in a desk mat matching the tray design shown in this thread.  :eek:

I've contacted the appropriate people for this to be made a possibility :) Keep your eyes on https://novelkeys.xyz/ for future updates about that, as well as here
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Sun, 11 November 2018, 14:15:34
So Jessica, you're getting your hands on a set around the 14th. Originative still says mid-December. Would it be too ambitious to speculate when originative will get their hands on the sets to ship?

Timelines have changed a good bit so I can't say anything for sure. All I've got is "Soon" from GMK :P That said, Sherry has told me that he just put mid-December on the page to be cautious.

Feel safe to say that pretty much everyone, realistically, should have their sets by mid-Dec

Highly interested in a desk mat matching the tray design shown in this thread.  :eek:

I've contacted the appropriate people for this to be made a possibility :) Keep your eyes on https://novelkeys.xyz/ for future updates about that, as well as here


Awesome!!! I hope this becomes a reality ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Mon, 12 November 2018, 06:12:50
I got tracking information from mykeyboard.eu today, it's finally happening?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 12 November 2018, 07:21:54
me too...

KMK Labs.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Mon, 12 November 2018, 23:56:07
How cool! I had no idea :D

I'll be getting my set on Wednesday as expected, so hopefully I get mine first :P
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 13 November 2018, 06:06:19
Could be a false alarm though, it hasn't moved in over 24 hours. Perhaps MyKeyboard is just preparing the orders for when they get stock. :)

EDIT: Nevermind, it's on its way! :O
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:47:41
How cool! I had no idea :D

I'll be getting my set on Wednesday as expected, so hopefully I get mine first :P

Did you happen to receive it today? Pictures plzzzzzz :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 15 November 2018, 07:33:29

I received my set today, I am satisfied, I only have doubts about blue maybe slightly too bright. But I'm very happy with the green, I was worried that it was too "faded"

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Thu, 15 November 2018, 07:55:09

I received my set today, I am satisfied, I only have doubts about blue maybe slightly too bright. But I'm very happy with the green, I was worried that it was too "faded"

KMK Labs.
Pics please :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 15 November 2018, 14:25:56
According to the FedEx website, there have been widespread delays due to the snow or whatever, so my package is currently sitting there waiting to be released.

I love cold weather, except when it interupts my keebs. 😡
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: johuu on Fri, 16 November 2018, 02:35:16
Just got my tracking number from mykeyboard.eu. :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:09:46
According to the FedEx website, there have been widespread delays due to the snow or whatever, so my package is currently sitting there waiting to be released.

I love cold weather, except when it interupts my keebs. 😡


my photos are bad, I would only risk to generate confusion on the colorway

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 16 November 2018, 10:58:44
I've seen some pics and the alphas don't look as creamy as the render, they look to my untrained eye significantly greener. Was that the intent?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: asphyxia on Fri, 16 November 2018, 11:28:59
soo... does the set look like pea soup or is it similar to the render
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 16 November 2018, 13:16:38
Well Jessica, you sure showed me.

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well)  - take it however you want.

Reference:
(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OrKePkC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/W99S1vk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nnnZSqQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kbjxja6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)

It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:
(https://i.imgur.com/UsSYNaq.jpg)

What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Shenpai on Fri, 16 November 2018, 13:27:23
Well Jessica, you sure showed me.

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well)  - take it however you want.

Reference:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OrKePkC.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/W99S1vk.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nnnZSqQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kbjxja6.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)


It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UsSYNaq.jpg)


What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)

clap
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Morbus on Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:22:46
Well Jessica, you sure showed me.

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well)  - take it however you want.

Reference:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/P4zkABo.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OrKePkC.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/W99S1vk.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nnnZSqQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kbjxja6.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)


It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UsSYNaq.jpg)


What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)


Thought I'd hop in and see how it came out in the end and be jelly of you guys's keebs but holy moly I'm glad I didn't cop this:/ sad to see such a good idea come to such a sad conclusion.
I just hope all of this can be resolved in rev 2 so I can cop a nice set of necro caps!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:27:05
I don't physically have my set here with me yet, however I can say with confidence that the colours in your pictures are almost identical to the photos given to me by GMK:

Note here, the dark colour novelty keys are physically gray, but look dark blue in this picture
(https://i.imgur.com/ecNrSoY.jpg)

Even my contact at GMK confirmed with me that every one of those colours looks wrong in his photo. Looks like you and GMK just have similar lighting.

I have the final samples right in front of me as I write this, and every single colour in your picture is incorrectly shown. The blue and gray are incredibly overly vibrant, which incidcates to me that green would also be overly vibrant as well.

Yes, the alphas are green. It isn't a vibrant green by any measure, but is still green.

As well, please for the love of God, don't use GMK renders as reference when they aren't even on the group buy thread. GMK renders are notoriously washed out and incorrect, which is why I had Oblotzky do all the renders accurately to the goal. They're almost entirel a formality just to display what keys are included.
I am aware the GMK renders are on Originative, but I have told Sheraton to replace those about 15 different times now and he hasn't. Not my website, not in my control. Sorry for that.

Quick side note: "box has the correct color that I compared to as well"
The box art is not accurate to the set, I never said it was accurate to the set. It's just a good artistic approximation of the colours.

Now, if you have been looking at the GMK render this whole time (despite my best efforts...), then I guess I'll take the blame for your mistake. You expected keys with nearly no colour and well.. you got keys that have colour.

Feel free to list your set up on /r/MechMarket, because I'd genuinely be really disappointed if you had a product you're unhappy with.

I'm not here to trick people into giving me money , I'm not here to lie about what I'm making. I'm just trying to make pretty keysets, and I promise I do try really really hard.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:30:38
I'm confused...did one of the colors in the render get omitted?  The "mid teal" or greenish color looked ok in the samples...but I don't see anything resembling it in the pictures..

Renders
------------------------------
Mods - mid teal
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - mid teal
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal

Actual
------------------------------
Mods - dark teal *
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - dark teal *
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:35:49
I'm confused...did one of the colors in the render get omitted?  The "mid teal" or greenish color looked ok in the samples...but I don't see anything resembling it in the pictures..

Renders
------------------------------
Mods - mid teal
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - mid teal
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal

Actual
------------------------------
Mods - dark teal *
Mod text - light bluish
Alphas - cream color
Alpha text - dark teal *
Accents - light bluish
Accent Text - dark teal

Okay well your word choice for the colours is odd because I have absolutely no idea what 'mid teal' means. The renders and the actual set follow this pattern:

Alphas - Light green with gray legends
Mods - Light gray with a blue tint, and light blue legends
Accents - Light blue with dark blue legends

It's just that the pictures posted in this thread are about as far from accurate as you can get.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 16 November 2018, 15:44:12
Write down whatever you wish to write down in the thread in your effort to try and save what little that is left of your reputation as a keycap runner, but you'd have to be conpletely insane out of your mind to think that the alphas are anything close to ANY representation of the alpha color shown during the GB phase. Accurate photos or not (I never claimed accurate photos), I'll let everyone decide for themselves. It literally is INSULTING that you even try to JUSTIFY the alpha color, if you have your set. It is not even CLOSE.

Lessons learned, never trust you. It seems to be the general consensus in general, I am finding out now. I guess I was just too gullible, and well; now I am paying for it.

I'll just leave this here, it's a bit funny now that everything is concluded.

So I got the new samples and they are absolutely wonderful.

I will try to get a good colour quality picture so you guys can see, but just know that the colours match the renders really well, specifically this one
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)


Believe it or not, the green especially is super accurate. I think you'll all enjoy it :)

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Fri, 16 November 2018, 17:37:55
Write down whatever you wish to write down in the thread in your effort to try and save what little that is left of your reputation as a keycap runner, but you'd have to be conpletely insane out of your mind to think that the alphas are anything close to ANY representation of the alpha color shown during the GB phase. Accurate photos or not (I never claimed accurate photos), I'll let everyone decide for themselves. It literally is INSULTING that you even try to JUSTIFY the alpha color, if you have your set. It is not even CLOSE.

Lessons learned, never trust you. It seems to be the general consensus in general, I am finding out now. I guess I was just too gullible, and well; now I am paying for it.

I'll just leave this here, it's a bit funny now that everything is concluded.

So I got the new samples and they are absolutely wonderful.

I will try to get a good colour quality picture so you guys can see, but just know that the colours match the renders really well, specifically this one
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)


Believe it or not, the green especially is super accurate. I think you'll all enjoy it :)


(https://i.imgur.com/14Sg9Pw.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:05:55
I was planning on picking up the set, but now I'm probably out. Jessica, Emir does have a point when he said there's no excuse. The colors of the mods are different. The colors of the alphas are also different. Not just different by a bit, they differ by A TON. Like really. If you don't tell me these are both GMK Necro, I would totally have guessed these are just two different sets. Not that I say the real sample is bad, I feel like this is just a flash back of Solarized Dark when people MIGHT eventually start to grow interest in the set eventually, but saying this was anything close to the render was just not true.

(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ItsWRfD.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:13:55
Well, I'll make one more post tonight.

So, to everyone who bought the set who might be concerned about the colours, especially because of the pictures posted, I'd like to give my absolute best effort to clear up how difficult these colours are to capture accurately.

These pictures were taken less than 5 minutes apart, in the same lighting conditions (in my bedroom, natural lighting only), no colour correction, taken with my iPhone 8.
The difference is simply the background colour:
(https://i.imgur.com/EfSEtHW.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Y825git.jpg)

I'm not saying my pictures are by any means accurate, these are simply to demonstrate how much variance there is in the exact same conditions, changing literally just the background colour.

And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:19:07
Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... :-X I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:21:41
Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... :-X I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.

You get sample colours, not sample sets from GMK. Makers get their sets from the production run. That isn't a failing on Jessica's part.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:22:02
Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... :-X I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this what it supposed to be like? Hmmmmm......

(https://i.imgur.com/vLJQGTc.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 16 November 2018, 18:24:47
This is the setup I used, two studio light stands, white table and a DSLR - note that I am bad at photographing and have no clue what I am doing besides point'n'shoot.

I can confirm that under these light conditions, the "gray" was indeed more towards darker blue in real life - not just in the photos. Been fiddling with the set now in various lighting conditions and BGs, and no matter what - alphas won't even come close to anything that was advertised as GMK Necro alphas.

(https://i.imgur.com/T5Gj70F.jpg)

Don't worry jessica, I would sell it if anyone wanted the set. The original idea did not sell out (it would be interesting to get some real numbers, I have a gut feeling less than 50 out of 250 are sold) - so my chances of flipping are low. You won't have to deal with me for any future sets, I promise, but in every major discord the faith in you is but long gone, so good luck with anything moving forwards with a 2/2 track record.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:02:10
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. Although I have one on the way, if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.

But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.

I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:05:06
Well, I'll make one more post tonight.

So, to everyone who bought the set who might be concerned about the colours, especially because of the pictures posted, I'd like to give my absolute best effort to clear up how difficult these colours are to capture accurately.

These pictures were taken less than 5 minutes apart, in the same lighting conditions (in my bedroom, natural lighting only), no colour correction, taken with my iPhone 8.
The difference is simply the background colour:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/EfSEtHW.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y825git.jpg)


I'm not saying my pictures are by any means accurate, these are simply to demonstrate how much variance there is in the exact same conditions, changing literally just the background colour.

And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.

I’m really hoping the set looks better in person. I love the initial design.

However, why approve a sample that goes under a full color transformation based on minimal environmental changes. Essentially, if we don’t have a dark keeb and perfect lighting it will not look like the renders. It can potentially go from looking great to looking like **** based on minor light changes or the time of the day. I can’t think of any GMK set that does this.

Wasn’t there a lesson learned from Plum to test the samples under various lighting? How was this color transformation based on minor light changes not a concern when you approved the samples?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:26:22
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.

But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.

I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.

^^^ This
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:39:14
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.

But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.

I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.

I took japanesehorrorwriter up on his offer and I no longer own GMK Necro with only paypal fee losses on my end.

To summarize my final thoughts - the set is not a bad looking one, but it simply wasn't what I signed up for. For everyone waiting for their sets, I hope it is to your liking.

Have a great evening everyone!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:45:26
Emir, please pm me and sell me your Necro set. I have one on the way, and I dont have the energy to read the entire post, but if you're unhappy with the set you can get out of it with zero loss. If you're in a different country, I will pay the shipping to Los Angeles.

But please stop badgering Jessica (which is in fact, what you are doing). I don't know her. I only know Jessica from Plum. But makers are creative people and that's what we as a community should be encouraging, not discouraging, and that means cutting her a break if its not exactly what you or she had in mind. We are fortunate that this is also a community where you could sell your items at near cost. Because for every element you dislike, others may respond to.

I want more keycaps in the future, and the more makers you discourage and shut down with this type of behavior, the less innovations and new ideas we will get.

Well said, I didn't take part in this group buy, but my feelings are exactly that of japanesehorrorwriter's.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: kiwi99 on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:48:33
Wasn’t there a lesson learned from Plum to test the samples under various lighting? How was this color transformation based on minor light changes not a concern when you approved the samples?

Biggest lesson to learn from plum: Don't support jessicas sets unless you want to be in for a colour surprise due to their arrogance as a gb runner.

Just read this https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/75rjz9/gb_gmk_necro/do8j6rd/  :thumb:

reading through this thread and its almost painful to see you defending the colours as if its all good and fine  :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: switchnollie on Fri, 16 November 2018, 20:26:15
Also, the people PMinG me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you aRe, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged mE their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you trY to hide behind me.

For reasons unknown, many users here are unable to speak tHeir opinions outside of private chats.

One of the mAny mysteries of the mechanical keyboard communiTy.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Daellin on Fri, 16 November 2018, 20:49:14
I think the alpha colors are pretty close, if not on point even with the poor lighting with pics.

My only concern is the modifier colors, to which they seem more darker grey, even navy-ish rather than a lighter grey depicted on renders. Regardless I don't think it warrants any certain behavior coming from certain people.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: otanishock on Fri, 16 November 2018, 21:07:56
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Fri, 16 November 2018, 21:59:39
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...

Although a flight to Germany may not be easy for everyone nether is a $200 keyset. I am not hating on the outcome or what the pictures show I am excited to get my set, however for a $35,000+ MOQ it seems reasonable for a trip. Idk maybe it's just me...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 16 November 2018, 22:27:38
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...

Although a flight to Germany may not be easy for everyone nether is a $200 keyset. I am not hating on the outcome or what the pictures show I am excited to get my set, however for a $35,000+ MOQ it seems reasonable for a trip. Idk maybe it's just me...
$35k GROSS. Not profit, right?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Fri, 16 November 2018, 22:31:22
I think the alpha colors are pretty close, if not on point even with the poor lighting with pics.

My only concern is the modifier colors, to which they seem more darker grey, even navy-ish rather than a lighter grey depicted on renders. Regardless I don't think it warrants any certain behavior coming from certain people.

Yeah those were really throwing me off.  On the upside they might actually look better on my case\  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Fri, 16 November 2018, 22:35:52
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.

Guys why are we bashing on Emir? I mean I'm not siding with anyone, but I think the guy has all rights to be mad if the set didn't turn out the way it was advertised to him. It's not like Jessica offered him a free set. Dude paid close to $200 for it out of his pocket. Also the fact that Jessica kept reminding everyone that everything was fine, everything was perfect, everything matched up perfectly when nothing didn't certainly (according to him, which, judging from his photo, was very valid) made it felt like dude was being lied to. Flashback to Violet Tendencies, I remember there was an issue with the contrast of the legends and the mods. Voxicles was very opened about it and issued apologies to everyone joining his GB and offered to buy back any set people didn't like. I don't recall anyone has ever returned a set. I am sure this community is very forgiving and are very willing to provide help and support if things go south like what we did with Tendencies, but if you screwed it up, you owed your supporters at least an apology, not treating them like the way Emir was treated. I just think the way Jessica reacted was a little bit too childish. Especially when she said this. You have to remember, above all the active GB's running at that time, he decided to CHOOSE and SUPPORT your project. That alone, should earn him respect from the GB's runner. Basically telling him if he doesn't want the set, he can gtfo and find a place to get rid of it just sounds horribly wrong to me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Fri, 16 November 2018, 22:49:21
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.

Guys why are we bashing on Emir? I mean I'm not siding with anyone, but I think the guy has all rights to be mad if the set didn't turn out the way it was advertised to him. It's not like Jessica offered him a free set. Dude paid close to $200 for it out of his pocket. Also the fact that Jessica kept reminding everyone that everything was fine, everything was perfect, everything matched up perfectly when nothing didn't certainly (according to him, which, judging from his photo, was very valid) made it felt like dude was being lied to. Flashback to Violet Tendencies, I remember there was an issue with the contrast of the legends and the mods. Voxicles was very opened about it and issued apologies to everyone joining his GB and offered to buy back any set they don't like. I don't recall anyone has ever returned their set. I am sure this community is very forgiving and are very willing to provide help and support if things don't turn out right like what we did with Tendencies. But if you screwed it up, you owed your supporters at least an apology, not treating them like the way she treated Emir. I just think the way Jessica reacted was a little bit too childish. Especially when she said this. You have to remember, of all the active GB's running at that time, he decided to CHOOSE and SUPPORT your project. That alone, should earn him respect from the GB's runner. Basically telling him if he doesn't want the set, he can gtfo and find a place to get rid of it just sounds horribly wrong to me.


^^^ This. If you are putting your name on something it doesn't matter the criticism you get you should still respect your customers especially the ones who bought your product. I am not hating on the color, it's different than I expected by the images I've seen so far but I think I will be okay with it. I just know I would take criticism as an opportunity for improvement like most businesses... When do you see Target or Walmart ganging up on their customer for a bad review?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: smurkcity12 on Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58
Now I get why back then Mito took the extra mile and booked his flight to Germany to check on the real Laser sample. I always thought that was redundant somehow but now it all comes clear to me. Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber. But that is just to say not even this nor Phantom, nothing has ever come as close to render as Laser. No wonder why that set got all its popularity...

I have no dog in this fight, but are you comparing mito taking a flight for a keyset that grossed almost 450,000 dollars to someone taking a flight for a set that likely grossed <10% of that. And that's a gross number, not net. It wouldn't be financially feasible to take a trip out there for every set that GMK runs for this community. Especially for people not already in Europe.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:29:00
And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.

Guys why are we bashing on Emir? I mean I'm not siding with anyone, but I think the guy has all rights to be mad if the set didn't turn out the way it was advertised to him. It's not like Jessica offered him a free set. Dude paid close to $200 for it out of his pocket. Also the fact that Jessica kept reminding everyone that everything was fine, everything was perfect, everything matched up perfectly when nothing didn't certainly (according to him, which, judging from his photo, was very valid) made it felt like dude was being lied to. Flashback to Violet Tendencies, I remember there was an issue with the contrast of the legends and the mods. Voxicles was very opened about it and issued apologies to everyone joining his GB and offered to buy back any set they don't like. I don't recall anyone has ever returned their set. I am sure this community is very forgiving and are very willing to provide help and support if things don't turn out right like what we did with Tendencies. But if you screwed it up, you owed your supporters at least an apology, not treating them like the way she treated Emir. I just think the way Jessica reacted was a little bit too childish. Especially when she said this. You have to remember, of all the active GB's running at that time, he decided to CHOOSE and SUPPORT your project. That alone, should earn him respect from the GB's runner. Basically telling him if he doesn't want the set, he can gtfo and find a place to get rid of it just sounds horribly wrong to me.


^^^ This. If you are putting your name on something it doesn't matter the criticism you get you should still respect your customers especially the ones who bought your product. I am not hating on the color, it's different than I expected by the images I've seen so far but I think I will be okay with it. I just know I would take criticism as an opportunity for improvement like most businesses... When do you see Target or Walmart ganging up on their customer for a bad review?

I think most people have valid points in this thread. Customers have every right to be unhappy and producers have the right to explain/address any concerns. What's unfortunate is when people take things too far and attack/make it personal (not saying this was just one person). Everyone is allowed to voice their opinions, that is what this thread is for, but people need to allow for explanations or allow the other party to try and rectify the situation before taking it to another level.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: otanishock on Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:52:35
I have no dog in this fight, but are you comparing mito taking a flight for a keyset that grossed almost 450,000 dollars to someone taking a flight for a set that likely grossed <10% of that. And that's a gross number, not net. It wouldn't be financially feasible to take a trip out there for every set that GMK runs for this community. Especially for people not already in Europe.

Did you literally not read what I just said? I was just appreciating Mito's huge effort, not suggesting any gb's runner should do the same thing he did. You literally just rephrased what I just said, but worse. Please, allow me to recap it for you: Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Sat, 17 November 2018, 07:47:30
One final shot before selling it off, enjoy your sets everyone.
(https://i.imgur.com/TDyBqHF.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: smurkcity12 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:40:26
I have no dog in this fight, but are you comparing mito taking a flight for a keyset that grossed almost 450,000 dollars to someone taking a flight for a set that likely grossed <10% of that. And that's a gross number, not net. It wouldn't be financially feasible to take a trip out there for every set that GMK runs for this community. Especially for people not already in Europe.

Did you literally not read what I just said? I was just appreciating Mito's huge effort, not suggesting any gb's runner should do the same thing he did. You literally just rephrased what I just said, but worse. Please, allow me to recap it for you: Not that I'm saying that should be something every gb's runner should do because that just takes a lot of resources and too unrealistic to even carry something out of that caliber
Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: otanishock on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:48:59

Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.


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Smurkcity « Reply #464 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58 »

21 vs 23. Hmmm....
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Post by: bdkrzy on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:52:36

Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.


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Smurkcity « Reply #464 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58 »

21 vs 23. Hmmm....

Lol somebody just got EXPOSED lmao  :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: smurkcity12 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 11:53:55

Sure I did. And of course it makes it look like I didn't since you edited your post after I made my comment.


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Smurkcity « Reply #464 on: Fri, 16 November 2018, 23:22:58 »

21 vs 23. Hmmm....

Lol somebody just got EXPOSED lmao  :)) :)) :))

Without a doubt, when I started to make my comment the current quote is not what I was replying to. Those timestamps are right during my kids bed time. So it was something that I remarked on, and during that time Otainshock edited his original comment to reflect the same  sentiment I shared.

But I digress. The topic of this thread is necro. If people aren't happy with the end product, there's a reason the mods mention caveat emptor on every GB...


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ygor on Sat, 17 November 2018, 12:28:42
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TDyBqHF.jpg)


That looks pretty nice.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Hedgey on Sat, 17 November 2018, 14:36:13

That looks pretty nice.  :cool:

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Sat, 17 November 2018, 14:43:14

That looks pretty nice.  :cool:

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.

Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Sat, 17 November 2018, 14:58:20

That looks pretty nice.  :cool:

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.

This was my sentiment exactly. Although the set might not turn out to be as BAD, and it's likely some people would hopefully grow to like it like what we saw with Solarized Dark (although for me that set was still a complete major letdown), for the majority of us, like if you don't tell me they are both GMK Necro, I would straight up tell you these are two completely different set. I will wait for other to post pictures of their set to have a better look of the alphas and the mods, but as of right now, the color of the alphas definitely do not appeal at all to me, and I will not pick up the extras on OCO if this is the case.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Sat, 17 November 2018, 15:14:15
Also, just want to add this. Set makers, people like Tomberry, Zambumon, Oblotzky, Mito, Jessica, etc., you guys are a blessing to our community. We will not be where we are today without you guys. The work that you people have put in has always been such a blast to look at and I can't thank you guys enough. But us, your supporters, we deserve respect as well. Our concerns regards your work are nothing but constructive and should at least be considered to a certain degree, even if just a passing thought. I'm not implying anything, I just wish this kind of experience that Emir and some of us went through does not happen again in the future.
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Post by: rondg on Sat, 17 November 2018, 15:45:19
Anyone not liking there keyset? I would like to buy one. I really like how it looks based on the posted pictures.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 17 November 2018, 16:24:35
bleh..
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:40:28

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.

Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.

Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...

I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here.  If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset.  Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying?  Everyone would be having a hissy fit.

Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about.  If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders.  Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.

I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....

none of the posts quoted in my reply have anything to do with the designer of this set. someone literally just said "looks nice" and you wrote a novel about why they should actually be mad instead of thinking it's nice lol. also "white knighting" lmao you're literally the only person who is bringing gender into this

really tho my guy please point to literally anywhere i've even defended jessica's behaviour or the outcome of the colours of the set in this thread
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Wetherbee on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:45:30

Wow! This set came out awesome! After seeing the photos now I regret not jumping on this GB.

Great job Jessica!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: kiwi99 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:50:11

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.

Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.

Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...

I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here.  If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset.  Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying?  Everyone would be having a hissy fit.

Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about.  If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders.  Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.

I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....

none of the posts quoted in my reply have anything to do with the designer of this set. someone literally just said "looks nice" and you wrote a novel about why they should actually be mad instead of thinking it's nice lol. also "white knighting" lmao you're literally the only person who is bringing gender into this

really tho my guy please point to literally anywhere i've even defended jessica's behaviour or the outcome of the colours of the set in this thread

Imagine typing all this because someone said something tru
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:56:47
well this turned out like crap i was kicking my self for not joining now im relived.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:57:19

Wow! This set came out awesome! After seeing the photos now I regret not jumping on this GB.

Great job Jessica!

https://www.originativeco.com/products/necro

Feel free my friend. I'm sure OCO would be so thrilled to off-load these to you  :))
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Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 17 November 2018, 18:01:55
One final shot before selling it off, enjoy your sets everyone.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TDyBqHF.jpg)


wow that's basically the render /s

Anyway for future GBs, can we stop matching sets with pantone and let GMK match the color with renders (since everyone later is pissed that the set doesn't match the render)? 
Pantone doesn't cover every color, in fact it is pretty poor on some colors (e.g. dark purple). Also some colors are really different on plastic vs paper/renders and really lights-dependent. 
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Post by: freespam on Sat, 17 November 2018, 18:25:00
This was my interpretation of the samples.

(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Sat, 17 November 2018, 18:53:41

Looking pretty nice, and looking like the renders are 2 completely separate things though.  I'd be pissed to if I was buying in on this set, and it came out the way it did. 

I'm sorry, but now Jessica has run 2 GBs where the renders are completely different than the final product.  That would make me caution anything she puts out in the future with a very heavy hand.  Not to mention her attitude to one of her customers is pretty sour.  Not a way I'd want to handle that situation personally.

Imagine typing all this because someone said something nice.

Imagine replying to me, trying to White Knight in a thread just because she's a girl...

I said this on reddit, and I'll say it again here.  If the designer of this set was a guy, and the situations were EXACTLY the same, with another GB previously that came out nothing like the renders, everyone would be royally upset.  Not to mention if the designer basically told someone "tough luck" after spending a large chunk of money on the kit to have it not come out anywhere close to what they thought they were buying?  Everyone would be having a hissy fit.

Her attitude is crap at best in response to a problem she obviously knew about.  If her vision was to have it come out like it did in person, she should have communicated that from the beginning and updated the renders.  Instead, she stuck to the renders and they are nothing like the final product.

I, like many people appreciate a designer's hard work, but her attitude is not helping her at all....

none of the posts quoted in my reply have anything to do with the designer of this set. someone literally just said "looks nice" and you wrote a novel about why they should actually be mad instead of thinking it's nice lol. also "white knighting" lmao you're literally the only person who is bringing gender into this

really tho my guy please point to literally anywhere i've even defended jessica's behaviour or the outcome of the colours of the set in this thread

Imagine typing all this because someone said something tru

I don't actually disagree with a lot of what is being said, except for the way some people are deciding to go about it (and some weird ass accusations of white knighting). I'm sure I'll be happy with the results but I totally get why people would be upset about the differences from the render.
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Post by: P1kas on Sat, 17 November 2018, 19:09:26
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)


One of the proposed colors is completely missing D:

Where did the grey go? Renders had 4 colors but actual set only has 3?

??
Title: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 17 November 2018, 19:47:06
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)


One of the proposed colors is completely missing D:

Where did the grey go? Renders had 4 colors but actual set only has 3?

??

I also wonder about this. It's almost like they used darker variations of the samples, and dropped one of the colors.
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Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 17 November 2018, 21:37:53
That sample grey was perfect, was it not? I have a feeling GMK was told to use the wrong colors, and this is all being played off as intentional.
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Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 17 November 2018, 22:09:45
That sample grey was perfect, was it not? I have a feeling GMK was told to use the wrong colors, and this is all being played off as intentional.
Or last minute someone decided to use 3 colors instead of 4 to make a quick buck because it would be cheaper to use 3 colors. If the set didn't sell well, I could see oco (not Jessica) making this decision... The mod color looks awfully like the alpha legends.
This of course, is solely my conspiracy theory a d I am not making any accusations.
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Post by: glubazoid on Sat, 17 November 2018, 22:30:22
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.

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Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 17 November 2018, 23:32:17
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.

Oof that seems pretty on point.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: OtherAndrew on Sun, 18 November 2018, 00:04:13
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.
Imagine having to use Photoshop to make your keyset look right
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: gnunin on Sun, 18 November 2018, 00:45:44
Looks like this set was wildly oversaturated, similar to plum. The colors look similar to the render once pulled back.

Still too blue mods imo. I exptected grey mods, not navy.

This set really went the same road as Plum. Have a nice muted set on renders & then increase saturation with 200% on the final product. This really is not the set I ordered. So disappointed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mtat51 on Sun, 18 November 2018, 01:08:42
This is insane, how can she diverge so much from the renders she sold everyone on? Is there anything we can do now, knowing how poor the outcome is?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Sun, 18 November 2018, 01:27:04
Hi, I am here to defend Jessica.  :))

To be fair, the mods only get the blue hue under studio lighting, ptherwise, they are more towards gray/purple.

Here, I took one in what I assume Jessicas bedroom lighting conditions might be and the set looks "closer"; even though it's still off (pitch black room and with an iPhone, only explanation for Jessica misisng the colors by so much):
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/513420429164019719/image0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mdlt97 on Sun, 18 November 2018, 01:56:15
https://i.imgur.com/la627UY.png

expectations

vs

reality

Cannot say this is a monitor calibration issue either lol
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 18 November 2018, 02:13:53
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)


You know, that actually seems to be what's going on, I wonder if somehow there was a miscommunication somewhere or something else happened to the chosen colors.

In regards to the direction the thread has been going the past few pages: Everyone taking part in the GB is entitled to express their opinion on the state of the set, but I see many comments that could stand to be much more polite about what they're saying, from both sides of this. It serves no purpose to be rude or accusatory in any of the conversation that's going on here and only results in derailing and diluting of the thread. At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: sagadoi on Sun, 18 November 2018, 02:19:54
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)

:thumb:awesome guy, that is why necro looks weird.
I just want to know who made the accident, jessica or GMK?
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Post by: Emir on Sun, 18 November 2018, 04:02:49
That is not the problem, here's a comparison in poor lighting (with the studio lights, they both look similar). Definitely two different colors, so this is on Jessica:
(https://i.imgur.com/LdMAwJ0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sun, 18 November 2018, 09:00:23
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)


You know, that actually seems to be what's going on, I wonder if somehow there was a miscommunication somewhere or something else happened to the chosen colors.

In regards to the direction the thread has been going the past few pages: Everyone taking part in the GB is entitled to express their opinion on the state of the set, but I see many comments that could stand to be much more polite about what they're saying, from both sides of this. It serves no purpose to be rude or accusatory in any of the conversation that's going on here and only results in derailing and diluting of the thread. At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.

I agree completely.

Personally, I'm not going to even begin to share an opinion until I have my set in hand. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Sun, 18 November 2018, 09:28:57
At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.

Some users have already reported back with their set on hands over on reddit, and they all confirmed the color of the mods were indeed exactly like what Emir posted (i.e. navy blue and not gray as depicted in the render). So, at this point, it seems very LIKELY what you saw earlier is what you will get.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 18 November 2018, 12:33:24
This was my interpretation of the samples.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7EC2uMi.jpg)


You know, that actually seems to be what's going on, I wonder if somehow there was a miscommunication somewhere or something else happened to the chosen colors.

In regards to the direction the thread has been going the past few pages: Everyone taking part in the GB is entitled to express their opinion on the state of the set, but I see many comments that could stand to be much more polite about what they're saying, from both sides of this. It serves no purpose to be rude or accusatory in any of the conversation that's going on here and only results in derailing and diluting of the thread. At the moment, it would do everyone well to be patient while we hear from more people getting the set and waiting for more of the whole picture to reveal itself.

This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community. On one side you have some rightfully upset folks who didn't get what was expected and have voiced their opinions with respect to all parties involved. On the other side you have people like Emir who go onto Reddit and personally attack Jessica with witty titled posts and think that is going to fix the issue or change the outcome. Seriously, sell it and move on. Someone offered to buy your set, the personal attacks contribute nothing to the conversation.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bdkrzy on Sun, 18 November 2018, 13:52:26
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.

Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Sun, 18 November 2018, 15:00:46
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.

Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?

It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 18 November 2018, 16:34:10
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.

Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?

It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.

Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....


That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.

Great take, IMO.  I almost got turned off by it when I first got into the community.  Thankfully, I decided that I liked the hobby more than I disliked the community.  And found out that it's just a very vocal minority that thinks that attacking people is the way to go.  But I can definitely see someone thinking that it's not worth the hassle.  Look at the numbers generated on some of these buys.  That's not representative of just the people that post.  Many sit back and watch.  And the money of the watchers is very necessary for the long-term viability of the hobby. 

There are ways to express disappointment that are not toxic.  And a lot of the basis was learned in kindergarten with the golden rule.  It doesn't say treat others as you'd like to be treated only when they treat you right.  It's all on each and every one of us.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Sun, 18 November 2018, 16:39:10
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.

Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?

It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.

Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....


That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.

Did you guys even read the thread? Emir definitely took it too far but let’s not pretend Jessica handled herself with dignity. She belittled anyone who raised a concern, attacked people’s intelligence, and told everyone that she doesn’t care what they think since only she knows how the set is suppose to look. Even those who paid and stuck with her for two failed GB attempts, she showed a lack of respect. Her arrogance and lack of professional maturity may have been overlooked if she delivered, but don’t try to paint her as a victim when her behavior and how she handled the GB likely added fuel to Emir’s fire.

Hindsight 20/20, she made a lot of mistakes that should have been avoidable and you’d think wouldn’t have happened to someone in their second GB. Even now with her project being the laughing stock of the community, she’s not exactly handling it very well.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: saphispi on Sun, 18 November 2018, 16:48:31
Did you guys even read the thread? Emir definitely took it too far but let’s not pretend Jessica handled herself with dignity. She belittled anyone who raised a concern, attacked people’s intelligence, and told everyone that she doesn’t care what they think since only she knows how the set is suppose to look. Even those who paid and stuck with her for two failed GB attempts, she showed a lack of respect. Her arrogance and lack of professional maturity may have been overlooked if she delivered, but don’t try to paint her as a victim when her behavior and how she handled the GB likely added fuel to Emir’s fire.

Hindsight 20/20, she made a lot of mistakes that should have been avoidable and you’d think wouldn’t have happened to someone in their second GB. Even now with her project being the laughing stock of the community, she’s not exactly handling it very well.
^ This ++
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 18 November 2018, 16:57:22
This thread is the great example of why so many people get turned off in this community.

Hmm sorry but I was just curious where did you get this information from? Survey? Poll? Genuinely curious. I don't think I've seen anyone gets turned off in this community? Can you name a person?

It happens a lot. Turns out people who leave the community don’t fill out surveys. I can’t imagine how anyone could think that toxicity doesn’t affect community participation.

Damn so happy not the only person who see's this. The community can be a toxic waste dump at times. I know personally I felt like wiping my hands of it several times. People get way to emotional way to quick. I get being upset over spending bunch of money and not getting your product but yea personal attacks just go to far....


That being said I agree the colors are off from all the pictures I have seen. I personally liked the concept and the renders. I wanted the set planned to pick set up from Org. when money allowed. I will now hard pass on these. I also know others have said this is the second time this has happened with this group buy runner. Easy solution don't join there gb anymore. I know I wouldn't but bashing them. Attacking them personally is not the way to go. I also thought will say this a gb runner is just that there like a business they need to remain professional.

Did you guys even read the thread? Emir definitely took it too far but let’s not pretend Jessica handled herself with dignity. She belittled anyone who raised a concern, attacked people’s intelligence, and told everyone that she doesn’t care what they think since only she knows how the set is suppose to look. Even those who paid and stuck with her for two failed GB attempts, she showed a lack of respect. Her arrogance and lack of professional maturity may have been overlooked if she delivered, but don’t try to paint her as a victim when her behavior and how she handled the GB likely added fuel to Emir’s fire.

Hindsight 20/20, she made a lot of mistakes that should have been avoidable and you’d think wouldn’t have happened to someone in their second GB. Even now with her project being the laughing stock of the community, she’s not exactly handling it very well.

Bad behavior on her part (which she should be called out for) doesn't exclude bad behavior in return.  Everyone needs to participate to make it a less toxic community, and not just react.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 18 November 2018, 18:05:04
This is the last warning to please remain civil and not throw out insults at each other (especially hiding behind troll accounts) and remember that this is a community of enthusiasts which is based not only on making cool stuff and exchange information, but also sharing the experience of being interested in the same things and generally hopefully finding similarly-minded people and maybe even developing long-term friendships (now I've made it sound like a dating site...) 

More intense thread cleaning will follow if the discussion does not become more considerate.

. . . . . . .
Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up.  The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer.  Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy.  It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 18 November 2018, 18:20:31
Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up.  The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer.  Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy.  It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.

Not to stir things up further but given the earlier posts (especially the one with the diagram) it seems like the most egregious mistake if the fact one colour was completely eliminated from the end product for unknown reason. If that's the case the fault is pretty easy to place here, either Oco/Jessica gave GMK the wrong colours (by mistake, hopefully?) or GMK fluffed the batch on their end.

Regardless, whoever that someone is has some splainin to do - the green from the alphas and the blue from the accents being off, which for better or for worse they quite clearly are far as the final renders go, are the least of the people involved's concern when an entire colour customers quite literally paid for is missing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Signature on Sun, 18 November 2018, 18:30:02
Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up.  The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer.  Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy.  It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.

Not to stir things up further but given the earlier posts (especially the one with the diagram) it seems like the most egregious mistake if the fact one colour was completely eliminated from the end product for unknown reason. If that's the case the fault is pretty easy to place here, either Oco/Jessica gave GMK the wrong colours (by mistake, hopefully?) or GMK fluffed the batch on their end.

Regardless, whoever that someone is has some splainin to do - the green from the alphas and the blue from the accents being off, which for better or for worse they quite clearly are far as the final renders go, are the least of the people involved's concern when an entire colour customers quite literally paid for is missing.
Yes I can also see that the set and the renders differs, however what do you want jessica to do about it? Yes she can do a public apology etc. but at the end of the day, she wanted the set to be as good as all of you wanted it to be. She didn't choose a different color just to **** with you, but I think she did it because she thought it looked the best match to the renders.

Yall need to treat GB's like a kickstarter where the runner thinks of a cool concept and does everything in their power to achieve it. If you want to back that project or not is up to you. You can't treat a GB like a store purchase, even though the more the kb-community evolves the more professional GB's tend to get.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 18 November 2018, 18:30:15
given the earlier posts (especially the one with the diagram) it seems like the most egregious mistake if the fact one colour was completely eliminated from the end product for unknown reason.

The top post on this page shows that it's not the case:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94937.msg2680947#msg2680947

Two different colors for the alpha legends and for the modifiers.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sun, 18 November 2018, 19:13:53
This is the last warning to please remain civil and not throw out insults at each other (especially hiding behind troll accounts) and remember that this is a community of enthusiasts which is based not only on making cool stuff and exchange information, but also sharing the experience of being interested in the same things and generally hopefully finding similarly-minded people and maybe even developing long-term friendships (now I've made it sound like a dating site...) 

More intense thread cleaning will follow if the discussion does not become more considerate.

. . . . . . .
Things happen in the process of creating custom items--any number of issues can come up.  The fault can be hard to place, objectively, especially given the long-distance communication between the manufacturer and set designer.  Still in the end if one is not happy with the product, the classifieds (and reddit mechmarket) are generally good for reselling your brand new set for what you paid during the group buy.  It's extremely likely that most of the sets differ at least a little from the initial renders as they are shown on my particular screen.

Yes. This.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 18 November 2018, 20:14:00
Yes I can also see that the set and the renders differs, however what do you want jessica to do about it? Yes she can do a public apology etc. but at the end of the day, she wanted the set to be as good as all of you wanted it to be. She didn't choose a different color just to **** with you, but I think she did it because she thought it looked the best match to the renders.

Yall need to treat GB's like a kickstarter where the runner thinks of a cool concept and does everything in their power to achieve it. If you want to back that project or not is up to you. You can't treat a GB like a store purchase, even though the more the kb-community evolves the more professional GB's tend to get.

I didn't participate so I have no reason to be upset besides the fact I wanted it to turn out well because I liked the colour scheme a lot. As per Photo's post linking a pertinent picture, I'm still kinda confused - the modifier base colour appears to be that of the legends for the accent keys, not for the alphas. Regardless that still ends up being 4 custom colours which is what people paid for rather than the perceived 3, meaning it's just a discrepancy in vision rather than a **** up with monetary implications as I thought it looked to be.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:18:46
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: hayt on Sun, 18 November 2018, 22:52:55
remember that this is a community of enthusiasts which is based not only on making cool stuff and exchange information, but also sharing the experience of being interested in the same things and generally hopefully finding similarly-minded people and maybe even developing long-term friendships

well said
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 19 November 2018, 00:32:13
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.

In any case, give some room to the designer, so she can evaluate.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Mon, 19 November 2018, 02:08:00
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.

Well that makes perfect sense. You send the product out to your customers without signing it off first. This is why you do correction rounds BEFORE the product is considered finished. You can't blame GMK for this.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Mon, 19 November 2018, 06:31:02
To me it looks like GMK shot the mods with the wrong color and, if that's the case, GMK should make it right. IIRC, as of her last post, Jessica didn't have her set yet so the best thing to do would be to wait till she does and has seen it with her own eyes.

Well that makes perfect sense. You send the product out to your customers without signing it off first. This is why you do correction rounds BEFORE the product is considered finished. You can't blame GMK for this.

This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Wetherbee on Mon, 19 November 2018, 06:43:33

This is like the time we learned that Quakemz, a keyset reviewer on Top Clack, was colorblind.

lolwut. I'm not even mad. That's amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Mon, 19 November 2018, 07:27:06
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.

Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Mon, 19 November 2018, 07:31:36
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.

Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.

There were colours. That's what the samples are. The approval process and what dialogue went on between Jessica and GMK and what actually made it into the final run is not public. But yes, I'm not sure what you're suggesting is any different than what has already taken place?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 19 November 2018, 08:14:54
Expected Delivery was Wednesday. A little disappointed in the lack of participation from the "designer" of this set after hearing from disappointed patrons.

If time in this hobby has taught me anything, take your slowly creeping to $200 GB payments for GMK and spend them on sets that have already saturated the market.

This whole "I have VISION"... based group buy model is dead for me.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 19 November 2018, 11:24:22
y i k e s
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Mon, 19 November 2018, 12:03:03
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.

Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Mon, 19 November 2018, 12:52:28
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.

Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?

I have read it, but since you can read so much better than me, please show me where and when the author says that the colors are  not according to what they decided upon. I'm not talking about samples being sent back and forth but the final one. If I was the creator I would have voiced my concerns in the thread. So far I've only seen white knights making those claims. Suddenly it's GMK's fault as if this is somehow the most advanced thing they've ever done. After Plum that is.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Hedgey on Mon, 19 November 2018, 13:49:15

I have read it, but since you can read so much better than me, please show me where and when the author says that the colors are  not according to what they decided upon. I'm not talking about samples being sent back and forth but the final one. If I was the creator I would have voiced my concerns in the thread. So far I've only seen white knights making those claims. Suddenly it's GMK's fault as if this is somehow the most advanced thing they've ever done. After Plum that is.

Well she either has her set or doesn't right now, so we won't know until she posts...

But I got my post deleted earlier, so I'll refrain from saying anything "stupid".  Basically I called out everyone defending her when it's clear that she signed off on the colors and that she's responsible, not GMK.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 19 November 2018, 14:34:29
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.  Please pause all the wildfire speculation until she actually has her set in hand and can comment on whether the end result matches what was requested.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 19 November 2018, 14:44:51
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.

Isn't that what the samples (3 sets, if I'm reading correctly) were supposed to be for?

Regardless of what she thinks, the sets are produced and shipping now, so even if people are unhappy with the outcome I don't see much changing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Mon, 19 November 2018, 14:59:31
This just simply isn’t how keysets get made. There are no sets made prior to the entire production run.

Who said anything about having a whole set? You can approve colours without having the whole set. Blaming GMK for this is the cheap way out. If there was an issue it should have been highlighted in the thread, but nothing was ever mentioned about it. I doubt GMK made the final set anything besides what was agreed upon.
You should read the whole thread before you comment. If you have read the whole thread, you should go back and read it again. There was an issue and IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE THREAD. Color samples were done, signed off on. You don't think there's any chance of a manufacturing error?

I have read it, but since you can read so much better than me, please show me where and when the author says that the colors are  not according to what they decided upon. I'm not talking about samples being sent back and forth but the final one. If I was the creator I would have voiced my concerns in the thread. So far I've only seen white knights making those claims. Suddenly it's GMK's fault as if this is somehow the most advanced thing they've ever done. After Plum that is.
Wow. Just wow...
Firstly, the samples are all she has seen in person as per her post on the 15th, she hasn't yet received her set. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94937.msg2680144#msg2680144 so how would she voice concerns on something she hasn't seen yet?
Secondly, it's not "white knighting" to say we don't have enough information to draw a conclusion.
Thirdly, it's not inconceivable that there was a communication or manufacturing error. And it's not about complexity, humans make mistakes.

I think it's clear that a mistake has been made, but we don't have anyway of knowing by whom. Yes, it's speculation on my part to say that maybe GMK shot the mods with the wrong color, but it's not any more speculative than any other theory. Nor is it any less probable. The reason I think it's a plausible cause is this post by freespam: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94937.msg2680858#msg2680858

For my $.02, I think the reason that the pics by Emir look so off from the renders is due to the contrast created by the alphas and the much darker than advertised mods. So I'm focusing on why the mods are so much darker than expected.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Mon, 19 November 2018, 15:27:35
Hello everyone,

I recieved my set, but got it only a bit before I had to leave for work. I have some pics of the set to share once I'm home (10:30 PST, approximately),

And just to clarify, I was intended to get my set delivered to me on the 14th. However, I checked with FedEx (even called them on Friday to get the most up to date info) and there was a storm holding up incoming deliveries at their international hub in Memphis. I posted this before but I just want to reiterate that I was meant to have my set before everyone else, international shipping just held it up. Sorry for that, but that part is entirely out of my control.

So I'll just clarify the few things I'm seeing here
1. The set was made with all the approved colours, no manufacturing mixup
2. The blue tint of the modifiers comes out really strong in pictures, but in person it's definitely more mild. It's certianly not a dark navy blue colour

In the meantime, please everyone be nice to eachother :)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mtat51 on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:11:04
Hello everyone,

I recieved my set, but got it only a bit before I had to leave for work. I have some pics of the set to share once I'm home (10:30 PST, approximately),

And just to clarify, I was intended to get my set delivered to me on the 14th. However, I checked with FedEx (even called them on Friday to get the most up to date info) and there was a storm holding up incoming deliveries at their international hub in Memphis. I posted this before but I just want to reiterate that I was meant to have my set before everyone else, international shipping just held it up. Sorry for that, but that part is entirely out of my control.

So I'll just clarify the few things I'm seeing here
1. The set was made with all the approved colours, no manufacturing mixup
2. The blue tint of the modifiers comes out really strong in pictures, but in person it's definitely more mild. It's certianly not a dark navy blue colour

In the meantime, please everyone be nice to eachother :)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How about the other green? It looks nearly glow in the dark in some of the pictures.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:19:19
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.

Isn't that what the samples (3 sets, if I'm reading correctly) were supposed to be for?

Regardless of what she thinks, the sets are produced and shipping now, so even if people are unhappy with the outcome I don't see much changing.

Colors from a batch of plastic ran a considerable amount of time before the production batch was made doesn't necessarily mean that the production run turned out exactly like them or that there wasn't a mistake with the usage of the colors. In theory it should guarantee that exact color is used, but color consistency across batches can be tricky business.

In regards to the set not reaching her in time, it does seem like it would have been better for someone(not sure who in this case) to make sure she got her set before the sets were to even be shipped from GMK to the proxies, even to the point of delaying bulk shipment until hers arrived.


On another note, is it just me, or does it seem like there's a much higher incidence currently of people being vocal about colors not being matches to renders or what they expected? I'm not saying whether or not they should be saying this, and it's not just this set either, but it just seems like a year ago or so you'd see less people comparing sets directly to the renders or maybe just more overall realization that renders are "optimal" realizations of the colors of a set and should be taken as more of a guideline of the colorway rather than the dictation of what it absolutely will be. An unfortunate part of working with custom colors is that renders are the best thing you have for showing off the colors before people buy it, photos of singleshot samples are what you have after people have paid, both of these methods being reliant on people viewing them on any number of monitors with different color correction, and then they only see what it looks like IRL for the first time when everything is said and done. Again, I'm not saying you don't have a reason to complain if you think the colors are too far off from what you were sold, but at the same time it's quite difficult for anyone but the designer to say "yes, I know what these colors look like and therefore what the set will look like", and even then the nature of the sample process can mean they won't see the set colors "put together" in their final config until they have a set themselves. I think the whole process of working with custom colors is just something that I'm concerned about ever doing myself just from the feedback I've seen in some of these threads from even minor discrepancies against the renders.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:26:46
I don't understand the process of giving a render to a manufacturer and them not rectifying the differences before starting production. The Grays/Blue/Green are way off and the mods being dark instead of a light color seems to be a huge mistake on someone's part. I like it all mostly, but we may have more Calm Derps than Necro. The underlying green mossy zombie feel of the renders is actually more blue cold white walker. Still hopeful that it looks nice IRL and just photographs poorly, the same that Toxic looks very different IRL than it photographs while also looking different depending on other colors next to it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:27:05
So I'll just clarify the few things I'm seeing here
1. The set was made with all the approved colours, no manufacturing mixup
2. The blue tint of the modifiers comes out really strong in pictures, but in person it's definitely more mild. It's certianly not a dark navy blue colour

Those lines in addition to this previous response to me:
"I guess I'll take the blame for your mistake. You expected keys with nearly no colour and well.. you got keys that have colour. "
... Pretty much confirms that you still are really satisfied with the set and there's nothing wrong with it.

Wow...

Regarding the mods, I already clarified in the thread that they're only towards the navy color in good lighting, otherwise they're more gray/purplish like other photos of the mods (and your sample).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:30:37
One thing i hope we get to see is if the final samples Jessica received match the final keycaps produced. I don't believe she ever posted the final samples.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Mon, 19 November 2018, 17:07:38
Jessica has yet to receive her own set and verify that the colors were manufactured correctly.

Isn't that what the samples (3 sets, if I'm reading correctly) were supposed to be for?

Regardless of what she thinks, the sets are produced and shipping now, so even if people are unhappy with the outcome I don't see much changing.

Colors from a batch of plastic ran a considerable amount of time before the production batch was made doesn't necessarily mean that the production run turned out exactly like them or that there wasn't a mistake with the usage of the colors. In theory it should guarantee that exact color is used, but color consistency across batches can be tricky business.

In regards to the set not reaching her in time, it does seem like it would have been better for someone(not sure who in this case) to make sure she got her set before the sets were to even be shipped from GMK to the proxies, even to the point of delaying bulk shipment until hers arrived.


On another note, is it just me, or does it seem like there's a much higher incidence currently of people being vocal about colors not being matches to renders or what they expected? I'm not saying whether or not they should be saying this, and it's not just this set either, but it just seems like a year ago or so you'd see less people comparing sets directly to the renders or maybe just more overall realization that renders are "optimal" realizations of the colors of a set and should be taken as more of a guideline of the colorway rather than the dictation of what it absolutely will be. An unfortunate part of working with custom colors is that renders are the best thing you have for showing off the colors before people buy it, photos of singleshot samples are what you have after people have paid, both of these methods being reliant on people viewing them on any number of monitors with different color correction, and then they only see what it looks like IRL for the first time when everything is said and done. Again, I'm not saying you don't have a reason to complain if you think the colors are too far off from what you were sold, but at the same time it's quite difficult for anyone but the designer to say "yes, I know what these colors look like and therefore what the set will look like", and even then the nature of the sample process can mean they won't see the set colors "put together" in their final config until they have a set themselves. I think the whole process of working with custom colors is just something that I'm concerned about ever doing myself just from the feedback I've seen in some of these threads from even minor discrepancies against the renders.

It probably has something to due with the steady increase in base kit prices on smaller GMK GB's.

More expensive means the perceived notion that one should be getting EXACTLY what's advertised.


personally investing $200+ USD in a set without a pantone or RAL listed seems super risky. At least if there's a pantone color listed you know what the designer is aiming for.

Even if all 4 original colors dont end up translating well to plastic samples, at least its a starting point for the designer to then get alternates and variations of the original colors to try to best represent the original render. Selling the set on a render based on RGB values, and trying to get the closest match AFTER all the money's been exchanged is so so risky...its GMK, if 250 people said "I want a refund" then boom that GB runner is in the whole like $45,000... its not a good look for people trying to run GMK sets
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 19 November 2018, 17:16:14
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Signature on Mon, 19 November 2018, 18:53:06
I miss the old Necro
Straight from the Go Necro
Sell out the bro Necro
I hate the new Necro
The toxic rude Necro
The Reddit news Necro
Mods with only blue necro
I miss the Render Necro
No care about the gender necro

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Hedgey on Mon, 19 November 2018, 20:18:30
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

Can't tell if sarcastic or not??  Plenty of GB runners don't have this issue, especially twice in a row....
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ygor on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:27:19
I miss the old Necro
Straight from the Go Necro
Sell out the bro Necro
I hate the new Necro
The toxic rude Necro
The Reddit news Necro
Mods with only blue necro
I miss the Render Necro
No care about the gender necro
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:47:11
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

I mean...I really dont think it needs to be said....especially for those who've run keysets before...

1. pick your sets palette
2. choose pantones that are replicatable in plastic
3. dont just use HEX codes until the GB's conclusion and assume the vendor can color match plastic chips to a computer screens rgb numbers
4. list your pantones/color chips so people know what to expect
5. list the pantones/color chips you change to along the way in the event your originally chosen pantones/color chips don't match your renders, or you've found a pantone/chip that BETTER reflects the palette AND renders of the set
6. take pictures of your samples in daylight, low-light, indoor lighting...avoid fluorescent settings, try to take pictures of the samples in locations where they'd be seen the MOST...like your desk/office etc....if you need a professional light studio with a professional camera to capture the perfect lighting conditions that makes the set match the render then you're probably going to get a ****ton of flack
7. geniuinely sound like you are trying your hardest to match the original render, dont spend your time gaslighting the dissenting opinions
8. dont replace "your artistic interpretation" of the set with "the literal render representation of the set" AFTER the groupbuys conclusion... people bought what was advertised, not for your artistic integrity...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Acereconkeys on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:49:28
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

Can't tell if sarcastic or not??  Plenty of GB runners don't have this issue, especially twice in a row....

Not sarcasm. There aren't nearly as many sets with multiple new colors are there? I'm also more interested in discussing solutions/plans moving forward not continuing to bash a set that everyone's already said there piece on.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:51:07
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

I mean...I really dont think it needs to be said....especially for those who've run keysets before...

1. pick your sets palette
2. choose pantones that are replicatable in plastic
3. dont just use HEX codes until the GB's conclusion and assume the vendor can color match plastic chips to a computer screens rgb numbers
4. list your pantones/color chips so people know what to expect
5. list the pantones/color chips you change to along the way in the event your originally chosen pantones/color chips don't match your renders, or you've found a pantone/chip that BETTER reflects the palette AND renders of the set
6. take pictures of your samples in daylight, low-light, indoor lighting...avoid fluorescent settings, try to take pictures of the samples in locations where they'd be seen the MOST...like your desk/office etc....if you need a professional light studio with a professional camera to capture the perfect lighting conditions that makes the set match the render then you're probably going to get a ****ton of flack
7. geniuinely sound like you are trying your hardest to match the original render, dont spend your time gaslighting the dissenting opinions
8. dont replace "your artistic interpretation" of the set with "the literal render representation of the set" AFTER the groupbuys conclusion... people bought what was advertised, not for your artistic integrity...

Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mopaska on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:59:34

On another note, is it just me, or does it seem like there's a much higher incidence currently of people being vocal about colors not being matches to renders or what they expected? I'm not saying whether or not they should be saying this, and it's not just this set either, but it just seems like a year ago or so you'd see less people comparing sets directly to the renders or maybe just more overall realization that renders are "optimal" realizations of the colors of a set and should be taken as more of a guideline of the colorway rather than the dictation of what it absolutely will be. An unfortunate part of working with custom colors is that renders are the best thing you have for showing off the colors before people buy it, photos of singleshot samples are what you have after people have paid, both of these methods being reliant on people viewing them on any number of monitors with different color correction, and then they only see what it looks like IRL for the first time when everything is said and done.

I think GMK Laser happened and it delivered a set that matched the renders.
Also I think some members of the community joined the groupbuy to give the runner a second a chance after GMK Plum turned out over-saturated.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mopaska on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:00:49

Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
This is a good point. Or actual lego bricks, lol. Didn't Zambumon do that with Serika to match the yellow (and it worked out because lego bricks are ABS plastic as well)?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:14:13
I agree. I wonder what solution we could try to figure out to help alleviate this issue in the future. I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

I mean...I really dont think it needs to be said....especially for those who've run keysets before...

1. pick your sets palette
2. choose pantones that are replicatable in plastic
3. dont just use HEX codes until the GB's conclusion and assume the vendor can color match plastic chips to a computer screens rgb numbers
4. list your pantones/color chips so people know what to expect
5. list the pantones/color chips you change to along the way in the event your originally chosen pantones/color chips don't match your renders, or you've found a pantone/chip that BETTER reflects the palette AND renders of the set
6. take pictures of your samples in daylight, low-light, indoor lighting...avoid fluorescent settings, try to take pictures of the samples in locations where they'd be seen the MOST...like your desk/office etc....if you need a professional light studio with a professional camera to capture the perfect lighting conditions that makes the set match the render then you're probably going to get a ****ton of flack
7. geniuinely sound like you are trying your hardest to match the original render, dont spend your time gaslighting the dissenting opinions
8. dont replace "your artistic interpretation" of the set with "the literal render representation of the set" AFTER the groupbuys conclusion... people bought what was advertised, not for your artistic integrity...

Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.

Exactly, pantone lists all their rgb and gex values, same with RAL chips,

Im pretty sure theres a few sites that find your rgb/hex values and basically list every single clise approximate to it in both RAL and pantone.

Cant just go off picking a color off a refernece image, gotta do the real life physical color search before you settle on the e-colors.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:22:51
I remember GMK Olivia using a pantone book to match the color perhaps that's a good idea going forward?

Well duh.... That is how you pick a color.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:33:46
Hello I am home from work. Shift went by quickly which is nice.

Now, I will preface this pic, (which I'd say is the best I got in the short amount of time I had to take pics before I left today) and say it's not perfectly accurate but I do feel it captures the colours well.

Additionally, (and I think this is lighting dependant because it changes depending on what room I look at the set in) the modifier keys are a bit darker in some lighting; but only on my X60. The sample looks the same on it's own, so I think it might be due to the caps casting shadows on themselves.

That's a definite oversight on my end, I apologise.
However, the colours are still within what I'd call a reasonable margin of variation.

So now, without further delay..
(https://i.imgur.com/tvKfgoy.jpg)

This is on my bed, with my lights off, window open. So basically natural, but indirect lighting as that seemed to get me the most accurate picture.
So if nothing else, please take the pictures you've seen with a grain of salt as the pictures vary a lot, and wait till you have a set physically in your hands to make a conclusion.

Good night everyone :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ygor on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:52:55
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tvKfgoy.jpg)


That looks pretty nice.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:55:08

Also, RAL chips would be more desirable to match to over Pantone, and you can most likely use the RGB/CMYK/Hex associated with them for the renders.
This is a good point. Or actual lego bricks, lol. Didn't Zambumon do that with Serika to match the yellow (and it worked out because lego bricks are ABS plastic as well)?

From what I've heard you can send GMK about any object and they'll match it, but yeah seeing as Lego are ABS I'd expect them to match quite well due to the visual properties matching. Trying to match stuff like Pantone cards I could see why it could be less accurate due to the color on paper not behaving the same as the color made of plastic. Maybe the secret is only make keysets with the same colors as Legos :P


Exactly, pantone lists all their rgb and gex values, same with RAL chips,

Im pretty sure theres a few sites that find your rgb/hex values and basically list every single clise approximate to it in both RAL and pantone.

Cant just go off picking a color off a refernece image, gotta do the real life physical color search before you settle on the e-colors.

I think part of the issue is that getting color decks for Pantone or RAL can be quite the daunting expense for prospective set designers, and so they try to get by with just going by pictures or online swatches.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Wetherbee on Tue, 20 November 2018, 02:00:45
That looks pretty nice.  :cool:

Absolutely! It really looks great. Thanks for running this buy. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 20 November 2018, 02:00:54
I think part of the issue is that getting color decks for Pantone or RAL can be quite the daunting expense for prospective set designers, and so they try to get by with just going by pictures or online swatches.

GMK literally offers to borrow you pantones for free, there's no excuse.
https://uniqey.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001641213-I-would-like-to-work-with-custom-colors-How-does-the-matching-process-work-

"It is important that the actual color selection is being made with a physical Pantone® Coated chart.
If you don´t have access to a chart, please just send us a message and we will send you a chart as a loan."

Same page for the people blaming GMK:
"Please be aware that the final color release/decision is the responsibility of the designer."
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: the_mihalich on Tue, 20 November 2018, 02:07:43
Hello I am home from work. Shift went by quickly which is nice.

Now, I will preface this pic, (which I'd say is the best I got in the short amount of time I had to take pics before I left today) and say it's not perfectly accurate but I do feel it captures the colours well.

Additionally, (and I think this is lighting dependant because it changes depending on what room I look at the set in) the modifier keys are a bit darker in some lighting; but only on my X60. The sample looks the same on it's own, so I think it might be due to the caps casting shadows on themselves.

That's a definite oversight on my end, I apologise.
However, the colours are still within what I'd call a reasonable margin of variation.

So now, without further delay..
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tvKfgoy.jpg)


This is on my bed, with my lights off, window open. So basically natural, but indirect lighting as that seemed to get me the most accurate picture.
So if nothing else, please take the pictures you've seen with a grain of salt as the pictures vary a lot, and wait till you have a set physically in your hands to make a conclusion.

Good night everyone :)

Do you have a RAL color fan or plastic color catalogue for reference?
Does printed colors on box change colors same way as keys in different lighting conditions?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Tue, 20 November 2018, 02:11:05
Let's take some learnings from this.

Why not apply some mechmarket rules around starting Keycap GB's? The designer needs to supply a photo of a Pantone chart with their name and date written on a paper next to it. If you don't have the money to buy one or can't get access to one then tough luck. Your set will suck anyway, just feel blessed that we spared you all the issues seen here.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 20 November 2018, 03:19:06
I think part of the issue is that getting color decks for Pantone or RAL can be quite the daunting expense for prospective set designers, and so they try to get by with just going by pictures or online swatches.

GMK literally offers to borrow you pantones for free, there's no excuse.
https://uniqey.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001641213-I-would-like-to-work-with-custom-colors-How-does-the-matching-process-work-

"It is important that the actual color selection is being made with a physical Pantone® Coated chart.
If you don´t have access to a chart, please just send us a message and we will send you a chart as a loan."

Same page for the people blaming GMK:
"Please be aware that the final color release/decision is the responsibility of the designer."


That's good to see, but do note that they say they'll do this only after an order has been placed, so you won't be able to have Pantones on hand until after you've gotten people to buy the set. So if after you've sold people on your initial renders you then go with Pantones that differ from the original renders but irl better represent the look you want, you could still get people sitting here saying that the colors don't match the renders the set was sold on. Or maybe someone comparing some bad lighting pictures of the samples you get to the og renders with hex codes to call the samples completely wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 20 November 2018, 03:56:39
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Beatnutz on Tue, 20 November 2018, 04:21:06
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nineleveno on Tue, 20 November 2018, 06:38:54
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.

I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: clasicks on Tue, 20 November 2018, 06:53:05
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.

I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.

Personal vendetta? please. If you had invested the ~$150 or whatever into this set you might be attached to receiving what you paid for as well.

Maybe lets leave this thread to people who actually bought the set, this topic is getting more and more abstract by the post.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 20 November 2018, 06:54:14
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.

I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.

I am no expert and I certainly don't know how to take a photo more than point and shoot in an auto mode. However, I can tell you that my photos are more accurate than Jessicas cherry picked specific angle/lighting photo in order to try and save face.

I was probably more passionate about this set than Jessica herself, and had been shilling it in the Swedish keyboard community for months (really, ask any of them - it's a running meme now), so yes - perhaps I do feel a bit upset about Jessica ruining it after spending 220 euro (251 USD).

I do agree that you should wait for your own set before your dissapointment sets in (if you are expecting something like the renders), but I hope you love yours since there's nothing to be done at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nineleveno on Tue, 20 November 2018, 08:01:00
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.

I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.

Personal vendetta? please. If you had invested the ~$150 or whatever into this set you might be attached to receiving what you paid for as well.

Maybe lets leave this thread to people who actually bought the set, this topic is getting more and more abstract by the post.

Well I did buy it, so I guess I belong here, right? Emir sold his last week, then proceeded to continue badgering Jessica, here and on reddit, criticizing her every word, and demanding apologies at every step. He wasn't just dragging the set through the mud, he was trying to drag her down as well. Sounds like a vendetta to me, especially when he has no financial stake in this anymore, aside from some PayPal fees.

I'm not saying that he doesn't have any justification to be upset -- he didn't like the way it turned out, and that's completely fine -- but it's over now. Nothing he says is going to change that.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 20 November 2018, 09:31:43
Last few posts with a bunch of back-and-forth battle of egos have been removed.  Again, please remain respectful to each other in stating your opinions. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ramblinrose on Tue, 20 November 2018, 09:55:29
It's a bummer the colors came out too vivid - especially the alphas. Was considering this one myself but they're just too minty green. It seems muted colors are a challenge for gmk - are there any sets that have pulled it off?
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Post by: AndyTC on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:15:32
It seems muted colors are a challenge for gmk - are there any sets that have pulled it off?

Muted, 9009, Olivia and phantom(pale/muted yellow) + others
Is worth noting muted, Olivia and phantom all used pantones
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Shockion on Tue, 20 November 2018, 10:20:05
Emir let it go.. I get it you feel super passionate about this set. I get you most likely feel cheated and upset that it didn't turn out the way it was presented. At the end of the day people are going to look at your comments like this. Emir got out of the buy ended up losing almost zero money just sometime. Then just continues to hammer on the Creator.. I don't agree with everything she has done but honestly. I think most people would take her side over yours for the simple amount of grief your causing.

That being said Jessica.. the images you posted look nice I really really like the set. I still want to see more pictures before pulling the trigger cause the Navy set that Emir posted looked terrible. Though not going to trust those photos due to the continued post they been making. I want to get a more unbiased opinion and with other color cases and lighting. I think someone on reddit summoned this up nicely. The set is one that will look completely different depending on a number of variables. Including background colors, lighting, etc. Aka the set isn't very color stable. A simple change of background can completely change the look of the key caps.

U want to get an unbiased opinion so you are asking for more photos from Jessica, but you don't trust the ones from Emir?  Sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He said he wanted to see more photos, not more photos from Jessica. The more people who post photos, the more data he will have to inform his decision of whether or not to buy the set. I can't say I blame him either -- Emir seems to have a personal vendetta against the set creator at this point. Plus he even admitted that his photos weren't color-accurate and that he wasn't a good photographer.

I'm personally reserving my judgment until I get my set from Originative.

I am no expert and I certainly don't know how to take a photo more than point and shoot in an auto mode. However, I can tell you that my photos are more accurate than Jessicas cherry picked specific angle/lighting photo in order to try and save face.

I was probably more passionate about this set than Jessica herself, and had been shilling it in the Swedish keyboard community for months (really, ask any of them - it's a running meme now), so yes - perhaps I do feel a bit upset about Jessica ruining it after spending 220 euro (251 USD).

I do agree that you should wait for your own set before your dissapointment sets in (if you are expecting something like the renders), but I hope you love yours since there's nothing to be done at this point.

Let it go, you act like this keyset is your whole life.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Ajax on Tue, 20 November 2018, 11:04:04
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: TheDisappointingGatsby on Tue, 20 November 2018, 11:19:54
In my third year of this hobby I adopted a more hands off approach. I buy into a GB and then immediately forget I ever invested until the ship date gets closer just to save myself from my own impatience. I hopped in this thread a few days ago since I knew shipping must be close and I'm really disappointed in how it's turned out based on both Emir and Jessica's photos. The mods look like they might as well be from Skeletor in Emir's photo and in Jessica's they still seem more purple than gray. That purple is present regardless of the lighting scenario. I'll be patient till my set arrives and I get it on my board so I can see how it really looks but I just feel very discouraged based on what I've seen in here the last few weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Tue, 20 November 2018, 12:00:04
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 20 November 2018, 12:26:47
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Tue, 20 November 2018, 12:40:56
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.

This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Tue, 20 November 2018, 12:47:05
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.

This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.

Yeah thanks for pointing it out, for this very reason I was careful not to state that mine was the more representative, just explained why they are different. :)
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Post by: otanishock on Tue, 20 November 2018, 13:22:06
Damn it started off as a keyset. Now you guys make it sounds like we're taking professional photography classes lol.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Tue, 20 November 2018, 13:45:44
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks.  :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Tue, 20 November 2018, 13:56:29
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks.  :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)

Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though? 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:16:33
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks.  :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)

Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:22:34
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks.  :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)

Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.

Good thing I'm not in a super hurry I guess.  Still waiting on the board I want to use this set with, plus I might be changing my mind on the pcb too.   But I can certainly understand if people are getting antsy waiting for their own sets to arrive.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:28:29
Can we get to the real issue here... the fact that the Necro delivery happened/will happen when Oco is on vacation so everyone that ordered from them won't be seeing their sets for several weeks.  :( (yes, I know it wasn't promised until mid December, but still...)

Oh, I didn't even think about the holiday slowing things down there.
"Several weeks" though?
I guess "a couple" may have been fairer. They don't get back into the office till the 28th so there is one week there. Then time to sort and ship will be another week or two.

Good thing I'm not in a super hurry I guess.  Still waiting on the board I want to use this set with, plus I might be changing my mind on the pub too.   But I can certainly understand if people are getting antsy waiting for their own sets to arrive.
Yah, I'm usually in no rush, but the question of how the set actually looks in real life has piqued my interest.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:48:38
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

 The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.

Can I just point out that studio lighting is wonderful for taking artistic photos, but as the guy on Reddit pointed out with his massive wall of detailed and analytical text from working in a industry with color sensitive materials. That lighting will play a massive role in how the set looks. While Studio lighting is impressive. I really don't tend to use my keyboard sets in studio lighting. I would indeed say 99% of people in the community don't use there sets in studio lighting. I would say on average people use them in a room with a few natural light sources or with a ceiling mounted light source. That is one thing I am curious about. How this sets colors look under various lighting conditions. That is one reason waiting crossing my fingers.. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 20 November 2018, 15:42:52

I am no expert and I certainly don't know how to take a photo more than point and shoot in an auto mode. However, I can tell you that my photos are more accurate than Jessicas cherry picked specific angle/lighting photo in order to try and save face.


I don't see how you can say that your pictures in conditions that people are unlikely to actually use the set in are any more accurate than Jessica's, or how yours are any less cherry-picked concerning the conditions as well, especially considering how volatile the colors seem to be.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 20 November 2018, 16:59:06
tbh not part of this but pictures compared to renders look like two different sets id be pissed, in renders the alphas appear almost creamy colored in the actual pictures there like green washed it trips my eyes out and the mods look totally wrong, i mean from gray to purple? really in my eyes the only color that looks proper in any of the pics compared to the renders are the baby blue bits. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: venderzhao on Tue, 20 November 2018, 17:56:03
I will wait the actual thing and see. I dont know who to believe right now ... :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Tue, 20 November 2018, 21:50:38
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.

This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.

Thanks for explaining that.  I had no idea that lighting could make such a big difference.  The pictures gave me the impression that the mods were surely a very saturated dark navy blue in any kind of lighting.  I was really disappointed at first, but this gives me some hope  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: phatty on Tue, 20 November 2018, 22:36:08
I'm in if someone wants to sell their GMK Matcha. Would love to get one.

On a slightly different note, does anyone know where I can get GMK sleeves printed?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 20 November 2018, 22:38:20
Maybe someone who has the set could make a video where they change the lighting and the background in real time to see how the key color changes. Might help people get a better understanding of what the colors actually are like, it's hard to tell from still pictures.

I agree.  Can we get some pictures in different lighting in the meantime?  I don't get how the mods look completely 180 degrees different in Emir's pictures and Jessica's pictures.  It's like I'm looking at 2 completely different sets.

The reason they look different is because one photo was taken under studio lighting conditions, and the other one was cherry picked to save face.

I will say that they do look gray/purple under more normal lighting conditions, but even in Jessicas photo you can see the hue is towards what you see in my photo, but the lighting isn't there to highlight it properly.

This is not meant as an attack but just as a note about studio lighting. Studio lighting does not mean true colour representation. All lighting has its own way of changing the way colours look. As well, studio lighting tends to be cooler light and achieves a more blue spectrum of light (again this is not saying what's happening here, just...it's a thing). All studio photography is processed to attain a representation that is more true to the desired look. Just about zero shots are going to come out of the camera looking like it does irl without being processed to do so. I'm not saying yours or Jessica's is more right, just simply noting this.

Thanks for explaining that.  I had no idea that lighting could make such a big difference.  The pictures gave me the impression that the mods were surely a very saturated dark navy blue in any kind of lighting.  I was really disappointed at first, but this gives me some hope  :)

While I would take BOTH photos with a grain of salt, what fendent posted isn't entirely true. Studio lighting doesn't meant true color reproduction, that is true, but studio lighting being cooler is all about what specific flashes and gels you use. The main purpose in studio lighting is NOT color, but controlling accents and highlights. Can that effect color? Of course, thats how color works. Generally speaking the more light there is, the easier the camera can capture it without tons of extra processing.

I'd still like to see the colors side by side with the samples, because to my eyes they still don't look like they match, and that would be GMK at fault, not Jessica. It's a shame tho, I really did like the set as rendered, but based on the photos so far, I'm not comfortable buying until i see it in person (some sets like coniferous NEVER photo well IMO, but look fantastic in person).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 20 November 2018, 23:29:25
Getting quite off-topic, but
More
as a long-time photography enthusiast as well as lighting enthusiast (in general, home lighting included), the term “studio lighting” means little without specifics.  Is it a $50 umbrella stand set up with cheapo bright CFL bulbs?  Is it high quality high color reproduction lights?  Is one doing color calibration with something like x-rite Color Checker Passport and using custom white balance?  Is the monitor used for editing *properly* calibrated for its specific ambient light conditions?  What color temperature is the monitor calibrated to?  Is the resulting image viewed on a browser with color management enabled and respecting embedded calibration?  Is the random person viewing this image on the other end of the line using similarly calibrated equipment to the same color temperature?

It’s frankly a bit of a nightmare to convey accurate colors for general audience.  I can make my turquoise keyboard look more blue or a lot more green, depending on illumination.  Saturation can go up or down depending on illumination and file processing (in-camera JPEG engine counts as image processing, because it converts RAW data into a picture using color-matching algorithms.  And how about those “portrait”, “neutral”, “standard”, etc. presets in your camera: which one is “more accurate”?).  If someone shows you what a keyset looks like in bright daylight (an example of bright softbox illumination), do you expect it to look the same in a dim crappy-bulb-with-low-CRI-illuminated desk area, or vice versa?

It can be really difficult to photograph some things, like say fountain pen inks.  I have two inks that are olive green and super similar to each other in person, but my camera resolutely sees one of them as greenish brown, and the other as correct olive green.  I could go on.

 It’s an admirable path to take to try and present colors accurately on photographs, but unless one really tries pretty hard, it’s going to be a gamble.  And then once you change your ambient lighting, the colors shift correspondingly.  Asking for pantone or RAL values to make our own informed opinion is a reasonable expectation.  Asking for keyset designers to learn photography and color management is unrealistic expectation.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: romevi on Tue, 20 November 2018, 23:35:10
'Member when we just had keyboardlayouteditor.com for renders?  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: fendent on Tue, 20 November 2018, 23:35:34
While I would take BOTH photos with a grain of salt, what fendent posted isn't entirely true. Studio lighting doesn't meant true color reproduction, that is true, but studio lighting being cooler is all about what specific flashes and gels you use. The main purpose in studio lighting is NOT color, but controlling accents and highlights. Can that effect color? Of course, thats how color works. Generally speaking the more light there is, the easier the camera can capture it without tons of extra processing.

I'd still like to see the colors side by side with the samples, because to my eyes they still don't look like they match, and that would be GMK at fault, not Jessica. It's a shame tho, I really did like the set as rendered, but based on the photos so far, I'm not comfortable buying until i see it in person (some sets like coniferous NEVER photo well IMO, but look fantastic in person).

fwiw I was speaking fairly generally about low-cost CFL lighting setups like as seen as in Emir's previous shots
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: mtat51 on Sat, 24 November 2018, 16:14:54
Any news on the NA shipment? The Originative website no longer has necro listed
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: kiwi99 on Sat, 24 November 2018, 16:42:30
'Member when we just had keyboardlayouteditor.com for renders?  :(

member when they were for renders but they had colour chips from pmk or just used the available standard gmk colours?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 24 November 2018, 19:26:50
Any news on the NA shipment? The Originative website no longer has necro listed

They took most pre-order and stuff they didn't want to discount off for Black Friday discount they sent in an email.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 24 November 2018, 22:49:21
Any news on the NA shipment? The Originative website no longer has necro listed

They took most pre-order and stuff they didn't want to discount off for Black Friday discount they sent in an email.

Good call.  I was wondering why Tokyo Nights disappeared.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: tanega on Sun, 25 November 2018, 08:59:54
However, the colours are still within what I'd call a reasonable margin of variation.

Lmao oubviously not, something must gone wrong in the chain.
I work in both print and web industry and this is waaay off the render.

I think you are trying to self persuade here, mods are purpleish, alpha are green, how is that a "reasonable margin" ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: parityb1t on Tue, 27 November 2018, 16:11:36
Pixel XL gen 1. Grey British morning weather/light. Pretty hard to take colour accurate photo.

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Post by: Nzo on Tue, 27 November 2018, 16:55:36
Pixel XL gen 1. Grey British morning weather/light. Pretty hard to take colour accurate photo.

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Mods and accents look much better. The alphas tho 🤮
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Post by: parityb1t on Tue, 27 November 2018, 17:03:05
Pixel XL gen 1. Grey British morning weather/light. Pretty hard to take colour accurate photo.

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Mods and accents look much better. The alphas tho 🤮

Gonna comment that as I changed the camera angle,  alphas colour changed dramatically as well, so the pics above doesn't reflect what my eyes see. Will probably pick out closest hex colour at some point.
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Post by: Eric404atx on Tue, 27 November 2018, 17:39:22
I'm just ready for my order to ship so I can see this in person. It's crazy to have to see such dramatic difference from picture to picture. Lol
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Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 18:30:19
the greenish alphas still dont explain how the mods were transferred from gray to a purple?
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Post by: fendent on Tue, 27 November 2018, 20:54:38
the greenish alphas still dont explain how the mods were transferred from gray to a purple?

(https://i.imgur.com/nY9SlqS.jpg)

"grey" really isn't a colour all its own (in most cases that you're dealing with since you typically want to have a grey that matches with the rest of the colours) and is subject to the same principles as other colours are. Different lighting produces different looking results depending on how much of the base colour is refracted.

This isn't an explanation of what necessarily happened here, but it's why you can see a variation between what's supposed to be "grey".
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 29 November 2018, 03:21:12
Mm gonna be interesting mixed with GMK Mint Dolch. Will post results on arrival :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: the_mihalich on Fri, 30 November 2018, 13:33:30
Pixel XL gen 1. Grey British morning weather/light. Pretty hard to take colour accurate photo.

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Could you make a photos of keycaps on the box (which they came in) in different places - like in your room, near open window with overcast light - and with flash?

I think I can welcome everyone into nice and happy world of color matching

You can read this post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98240.msg2681543 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98240.msg2681543)
And some more on metamerism http://reilley4color.blogspot.com/2015/12/metamerism.html (http://reilley4color.blogspot.com/2015/12/metamerism.html)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Mon, 03 December 2018, 20:19:49
Just FYI, I emailed originative co today and they plan to ship out this week after they are done raffling artisans.
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Post by: Starius on Tue, 04 December 2018, 15:17:09
I got a email from Originative.
I assumed it was a tracking invoice.  It was not. 

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So mysterious. So unexpected. So expensive.

I bought it.
😳
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 05 December 2018, 02:19:15
Did the collab with Bro ever happen? Or did the direction change to ETF?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 06 December 2018, 16:34:25
Did the collab with Bro ever happen? Or did the direction change to ETF?

Bro is making artisans too :) Last I heard a few weeks ago, he was doing the colour matching process with the caps I sent him. No idea on the ETA, though
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 06 December 2018, 18:57:45
did ETF get caps to match too?  I have a feeling these are gonna be neat
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Thu, 06 December 2018, 23:56:53
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....

If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.

I don't mean to post these photos to incite riots (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking and to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 07 December 2018, 00:55:56
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....

If I had never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" and mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.

I dont mean to post these photos to incite riots of comments (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.
Evil80 Brother in arms
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Fri, 07 December 2018, 22:50:25
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....

If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.

I don't mean to post these photos to incite riots (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking and to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.

Do you mind taking a shot with the light blue keys...do they make the alphas look greener?  The set looks a ton better here.  I told myself I'd just have to wait for my set to arrive to see how it turned out, but the last few pics have looked encouraging!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Fri, 07 December 2018, 22:58:48
I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....

If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.

I don't mean to post these photos to incite riots (unedited, iPhone7). But casually speaking and to me they're just --- fine. Sure, I was secretly wondering if it would be the Handarbeit of muted greens and blues, but it wasn’t. Looking forward to what others think when they get theirs.

Thank you for sharing your perspective and nice matching you have going on with that Murray  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Fri, 07 December 2018, 23:38:40
did ETF get caps to match too?  I have a feeling these are gonna be neat

ETF did get caps to match! Posted on the OCo Instagram earlier today.
(https://i.imgur.com/fZlQp5L.jpg)

I just got this Necro set. My honest two cents....

If I never read a word of this thread I would’ve opened the box, taken one look, said "cool" then mounted them. I don't see Navy or Purple or wildish Green or anything inciting a three-alarm panic. Nor would I be so thrown-off from what I was expecting that I would have studied them under different tungsten, studio, and daylight conditions. To me, real-talk, in my office, they just look like what I ordered. You may disagree.

Happy to hear, hope you enjoy the set :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:22:02
Any idea when the rest of the sets are going to ship from originative? I still have not received an 'order shipped' email for my keyset yet.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:23:35
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:25:02
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?
I received a shipping email but it's still in pre shipment for me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: crashkaboom on Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:18:46
I was notified of my shipment on Dec 6th, and I received it yesterday, Dec 10th. I'm on the US east-coast.

My feels (mostly) align with japanesehorrorwriter's

I'm going to try and fall in love with the keycaps that I received, but moving forward, I'll probably steer away from group buys where controlled samples and/or Pantones aren't utilized by the artist/organizer during the process.

* edit: typo
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Tue, 11 December 2018, 19:17:14
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Sissy on Tue, 11 December 2018, 19:20:56
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Tue, 11 December 2018, 19:43:53
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.

Whelp, I am concerned. I have yet to hear anything yet...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: MajinGoten on Tue, 11 December 2018, 20:28:38
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
Anyone heard anything from Oco at all?

I have a tracking number and it appears to be in the hands of the USPS now. 
(Hasn't yet progressed enough for me to get a ETA.)
same, I expect it not till January knowing the speed stuff arrives to me, still cant wait to see it in person and the ETF I won.

Whelp, I am concerned. I have yet to hear anything yet...

I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either.  The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: crashkaboom on Wed, 12 December 2018, 08:54:43
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either.  The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.

Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Eric404atx on Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:11:52
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either.  The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.

Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.

I sent an email the other day but no response yet
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: MajinGoten on Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:38:03
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either.  The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.

Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.

I sent an email the other day but no response yet

I received a response from Wendy:
"Sorry about the delay. Choosing winners for the Nightcaps raffle caused a bit of delay, but we should to get to your order in the next couple days!"
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 12 December 2018, 18:31:12
I haven't heard anything yet from Originative either.  The order is still marked as unfulfilled with no tracking number; being shipped to Canada.

Have you tried reaching out to Originative? Wendy was very responsive to emails when I had concerns.

I sent an email the other day but no response yet

I received a response from Wendy:
"Sorry about the delay. Choosing winners for the Nightcaps raffle caused a bit of delay, but we should to get to your order in the next couple days!"

Can confirm. I got a winning raffle email today, paid for it, then everything shipped this afternoon.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 12 December 2018, 23:44:37
Got my shipping today, currently fasting while I wait for eat the food.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Jb8893 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 19:03:43
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: bthezebra on Thu, 13 December 2018, 19:27:12
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
That looks real nice!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nineleveno on Thu, 13 December 2018, 20:24:32
Apparently I was a winner in the Nightcaps raffle... I have to admit, I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get the appeal of ETF's artisans sometimes.
Title: nice!
Post by: freespam on Thu, 13 December 2018, 20:59:58
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.

New wave of pics looking much much better!!!  Thanks for posting one with the light blue mods  :thumb:  I'm really excited to get mine now!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: repuls0r on Thu, 13 December 2018, 21:09:41
Very keen on the Fugthulu. If any winners wants to let theirs go pls hmu.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: juntheboon on Thu, 13 December 2018, 22:55:12
Apparently I was a winner in the Nightcaps raffle... I have to admit, I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get the appeal of ETF's artisans sometimes.

If you don't want it, I'll give it a good home! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 13 December 2018, 23:48:23
Just received my set safe and sound, albeit much greener and much darker greyblue than I could have imagined in my wildest dreams :P Gotta ask, what happened to the dark blue color for the accent key legends? The pic (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/Base_Add_Ons_1024x1024.png?v=1542956458) on Originative shows a color code for dark blue (https://www.colorhexa.com/253348) but the legends are regular old black.. ETF seems to have went with the plan and included dark blue accents on the artisans. Sorry in advance if I missed the update, but were we supposed to have another custom color in the set?

Edit; welp I'm an idiot. Flipped the keys over and you can clearly see its a very dark blue.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nineleveno on Fri, 14 December 2018, 01:12:52
Apparently I was a winner in the Nightcaps raffle... I have to admit, I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get the appeal of ETF's artisans sometimes.

If you don't want it, I'll give it a good home! :)

I've gotten a few PM's about this -- ultimately I sent OCo an email declining the invoice they sent, so I'm guessing they'll just pick someone new. $80 is a bit too steep for me to spend on something that I would just want to resell, especially when the prices for ETF's artisans seem to be all over the place. Hopefully it'll go to someone who will appreciate it much more than I would have.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: flying1911 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:11:15
I just realised the new pics actually look quite close to the renders, but at the same time, they don't really carry the "spirit" that the renders convey. Maybe it's something to do with the oversaturation (or lack of "muteness"), and in MY opinion, the end result is pretty unspectacular.

This is my very personal (and outsider's) view. If I had ordered and received this set, my reaction would have been close to when I first got the GMK Plum...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Aerizu on Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:21:30
Still no news from zFrontier  :( :( :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: KeLorean on Fri, 14 December 2018, 09:26:07
thx jessica! caps looks great! im so glad i finally got this set. u know i must say though that the only true necromancer is Jesus. when life has beaten me up, and my heart gets sad, angry, and hard, He resurrects it back to life every time. in fact, His amazing love always makes me wonder if i even had a heart to begin with and why i haven’t been using it all my life.


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: elfick on Fri, 14 December 2018, 14:23:08
Just got my set.
While I'm fairly happy with it, I think the gray is much darker than what is represented in the renders, even taking color correction into account.
I feel this creates a higher contrast across the set and detracts from the washed-out and "dead" vibe.
Definitely don't regret getting it but I think a lighter gray, basically the gray that is used for the word "Necro" on the box, would have made this set perfect.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:33:48
Just got my set in the mail today. 
And wow, I see what people are talking about now because this is is very difficult to photograph accurately to what you see with your eye!
I gave up with my iphone, so I may try again later with my D800. 
But it's not just the kecaps themselves, but also the Originative Mystery artisan and even the GMK Necro box itself....they all showed up differently in my iphone pics compared to what I was seeing with my own eyes.  So I don't even want to share them at this point. 

All that being said, I agree with Elfick above... the set doesn't have that "washed out" look we were expecting, but its still a good colorway. 

I may try putting them on my black WASD keyboard later before I try photographing them properly. 

EDIT:  Also, I hope the Novelkeys Necro Deskmat is still in the works!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Sat, 15 December 2018, 12:53:36
Got my set today!  I agree with most of the comments so far.  It loses some of the spirit of the renders, but it's nowhere close to the impression I got from Emir's pictures.  I can see what Jessica meant now about the grey blue mods.  In person they look much grayer and less blue than they do in my phone pics.  But anyways it's a great looking set...I really like it!

One small complaint is that the light blue keys have different text colors...when mixing and matching the light blue arrows and novelties that stood out to me a little.
light blue novelties - text color is the color of the regular mods
light blue mods (arrows, enter) - text color is darker than the novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/TiBAyco.jpg)

The G is from SA carbon for comparison:
(https://i.imgur.com/CmA85Fb.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 16 December 2018, 02:18:19
One small complaint is that the light blue keys have different text colors...when mixing and matching the light blue arrows and novelties that stood out to me a little.
light blue novelties - text color is the color of the regular mods
light blue mods (arrows, enter) - text color is darker than the novelties


Hi!
I'm happy to hear you got your set!
Though, I am curious what you mean by the accent colour legends, as they are both meant to be dark blue (on both the novelties and regular icon mods such as enter and arrows)

The legend colours are as intended in my sample set I got from GMK, so if you wouldn't mind taking pics of the keys (the top legends, as well as the underside of the key to show the doubleshot colour clearly) so that I can check it out? Because if the text colour on some of the blue keys is gray like the mods, that is an error on GMK's part and we'll go from there.

Thank you, have a good weekend!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Sun, 16 December 2018, 02:25:23
Just got my set.
While I'm fairly happy with it, I think the gray is much darker than what is represented in the renders, even taking color correction into account.
I feel this creates a higher contrast across the set and detracts from the washed-out and "dead" vibe.
Definitely don't regret getting it but I think a lighter gray, basically the gray that is used for the word "Necro" on the box, would have made this set perfect.

Thanks for the input. This is one of those things I didn't account for unfortunately, which I 100% take the blame for.

Basically, I didn't consider that when the full set is together, rather than single keycaps like my samples, lighting plays entirely differently with the keys, making them look paler individually but more vibrant as a whole.

Same colours, different quantities, different results. It's incredibly frustrating, since it's something that seems so obvious to me now.
I do hope you all can enjoy the set in spite of this oversight
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: freespam on Sun, 16 December 2018, 12:32:25
One small complaint is that the light blue keys have different text colors...when mixing and matching the light blue arrows and novelties that stood out to me a little.
light blue novelties - text color is the color of the regular mods
light blue mods (arrows, enter) - text color is darker than the novelties


Hi!
I'm happy to hear you got your set!
Though, I am curious what you mean by the accent colour legends, as they are both meant to be dark blue (on both the novelties and regular icon mods such as enter and arrows)

The legend colours are as intended in my sample set I got from GMK, so if you wouldn't mind taking pics of the keys (the top legends, as well as the underside of the key to show the doubleshot colour clearly) so that I can check it out? Because if the text colour on some of the blue keys is gray like the mods, that is an error on GMK's part and we'll go from there.

Thank you, have a good weekend!

Here you go:
(https://i.imgur.com/UpSaVbd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/M1mhxXA.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: nomoneyx on Mon, 17 December 2018, 20:41:17
I received my kit today.  All of the colors look good to me.  I was expecting the light blue caps to have more green in them, but I am still happy with how the set looks. 

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 18 December 2018, 09:32:52
Here are some pictures under various lighting conditions

Outside:
(https://i.imgur.com/CjdAdBN.jpg)

Inside with Flash:
(https://i.imgur.com/Y8lbBmy.jpg)

Inside no Flash:
(https://i.imgur.com/cX61dnL.jpg)

LED Bulb:
(https://i.imgur.com/p8cif87.jpg)


So while I do like the colors, I really wish everything was a lighter and more washed out color palette and more similar to the renders. I'll buy round 2 when it comes out and has the appropriate tweaks should such a thing ever occur  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 19 December 2018, 08:03:25
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: kiwi99 on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:03:38
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?

Nighcaps Halfshell V2
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: urbantheii on Wed, 19 December 2018, 12:59:22
Just got mine in the mail today, here's a few pics.
What was the name of the artisan you got (I am new to this area)?

Nighcaps Halfshell V2

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Nzo on Fri, 21 December 2018, 10:05:59
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.

The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.

Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Emir on Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:41:44
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.

The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.

Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.

Yes, pretty much my exact feelings. The mods and accents are completely OK to me, I can live with them - but unfortunately the Alphas were waaaay to off to be acceptable to me.

For everyone that that received their sets and claim the render is accurate to what you got; look at this photo, then look down at your keyboard.
(https://i.imgur.com/pymgXD5.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 27 December 2018, 22:08:22
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.

The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.

Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.

The set went through so many different samples / colours in the sampling process that I just didn't see the point in keeping that constantly updated. I definitely didn't intentionally hold out on what codes were used or anything, just never felt the need I guess? Especially since the colours are physical booklets that don't translate exactly to the comparisons you find online.

If anyone is still interested, the green gray and dark blue RAL. RAL 160 80 20, RAL 240 20 22, RAL 260 40 10 (I'm not 100% sure these are the final colours I went with but this is the only list I can find in my emails) and the blue was colour matched to a gift bag I found in a craft store, since the blue was proving to be really tough.

Sorry to hear you're not satisfied with the set, but I do appreciate your support regardless :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 27 December 2018, 22:10:56
On an semi related note: If anyone got their Nightcaps Necro caps and is interested in trading for a different sculpt, I got an Idyllwild (I think I spelled that right..) and would love a Menloe, either Eggface, Skullthulu or Fugthulu. Just not interested in the blank unless that was a group with another cap?

Happy new year :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Starius on Thu, 27 December 2018, 22:17:07
On an semi related note: If anyone got their Nightcaps Necro caps and is interested in trading for a different sculpt, I got an Idyllwild (I think I spelled that right..) and would love a Menloe, either Eggface, Skullthulu or Fugthulu. Just not interested in the blank unless that was a group with another cap?

Happy new year :)

Is there a place where we can see all these different artisan versions?
This is the one I ended up with.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: jessica on Thu, 27 December 2018, 22:30:28
Is there a place where we can see all these different artisan versions?

This is the pic Sheraton gave me!
(https://i.imgur.com/fZlQp5L.jpg) 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 28 December 2018, 02:50:09
Anyone with the Necro Fugthulu I will trade you the Shell I got, plus some other Etf stuff to balance ;p only interested in the Fug.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Sissy on Sat, 29 December 2018, 02:56:16
Get my set today, overall pleased and got a Menloe with it so thats even nicer.ETF got the color perfect.
I agree a little bit more washed color on the mods but Everything else is on point and very happy with.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: johuu on Tue, 01 January 2019, 09:55:45
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.

The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.

Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.

The set went through so many different samples / colours in the sampling process that I just didn't see the point in keeping that constantly updated. I definitely didn't intentionally hold out on what codes were used or anything, just never felt the need I guess? Especially since the colours are physical booklets that don't translate exactly to the comparisons you find online.

If anyone is still interested, the green gray and dark blue RAL. RAL 160 80 20, RAL 240 20 22, RAL 260 40 10 (I'm not 100% sure these are the final colours I went with but this is the only list I can find in my emails) and the blue was colour matched to a gift bag I found in a craft store, since the blue was proving to be really tough.

Sorry to hear you're not satisfied with the set, but I do appreciate your support regardless :)

GMK matched the colors very good to the RAL codes, but the codes doesn't match the final color renders at all...I'm very disappointed by the designers color decision.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 01 January 2019, 10:23:19
Received my set yesterday. The accent (teal) and mods (gray) look good. I really wish the gray was a bit more washed out like the renders, but atleast they’re not navy blue in person which some photos suggested.

The alphas on the other hand ruin the entire set. They’re green. Light mint green and nowhere near acceptable deviation from the renders which were cream with a very slight hint of green. Lesson learned I suppose to never join a GB without color codes since what was showed to us did not align with the designer’s vision. In hindsight, the reason for not wanting to share color codes should have been a red flag to me.

Going on mechmarket if anyone is interested.

The set went through so many different samples / colours in the sampling process that I just didn't see the point in keeping that constantly updated. I definitely didn't intentionally hold out on what codes were used or anything, just never felt the need I guess? Especially since the colours are physical booklets that don't translate exactly to the comparisons you find online.

If anyone is still interested, the green gray and dark blue RAL. RAL 160 80 20, RAL 240 20 22, RAL 260 40 10 (I'm not 100% sure these are the final colours I went with but this is the only list I can find in my emails) and the blue was colour matched to a gift bag I found in a craft store, since the blue was proving to be really tough.

Sorry to hear you're not satisfied with the set, but I do appreciate your support regardless :)

GMK matched the colors very good to the RAL codes, but the codes doesn't match the final color renders at all...I'm very disappointed by the designers color decision.
Agreed. That green RAL is way too green... but the keycaps match damn near perfectly!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Necro | Available on Originative.co
Post by: Aerizu on Sat, 05 January 2019, 20:01:53
Finally got a shipping notification from zFrontier!

EDIT:
So I received my set today. The mod and accent keys are OK, but the alphas were rather disappointing :/
I would either re-use the mods and mix-in a different set of alphas or sell the set entirely. Hmm.