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Title: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Fri, 13 April 2018, 16:40:33
Geekhack IC
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94158.0

Massdrop IC
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/3707/interest-check-hammer-bsp-classic-beige-keycap-sets

Link to Buy on Massdrop
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-dr-click-resin-artisan-keycap

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set

Cheers!
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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 18 April 2018, 01:57:54
Dr.Click is here.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: typischt on Tue, 24 April 2018, 03:17:07
Congratz on the in my opinion successful GB!
One question, even though its already too late: Would this set together with i.e. the Windows kit and a 6U GMK 9009 spacebare have fitted on a realforce 87u? Not sure about the bottom row.. If so, I would kind of regrett not joining. I thought since I dont have (and particullarly like) WKL keyboards, the set would be useless for me.. Just realized when it was too late, that this might have been an option :)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 27 April 2018, 15:57:10
Congratz on the in my opinion successful GB!
One question, even though its already too late: Would this set together with i.e. the Windows kit and a 6U GMK 9009 spacebare have fitted on a realforce 87u? Not sure about the bottom row.. If so, I would kind of regrett not joining. I thought since I dont have (and particullarly like) WKL keyboards, the set would be useless for me.. Just realized when it was too late, that this might have been an option :)

Windows key would have fit. GMK spacebar depends on if it's center stemmed or not
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Thu, 21 June 2018, 16:17:42
I hate these sorts of posts, but seeing as I'm always late to the party and didn't have the funds at the time, would anyone be willing to part with an OG Tulip set?  :-X
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: revenantjay on Sat, 23 June 2018, 22:30:05
If anyone has buyer's remorse and wants to part with a Greek Tulip set, hit me up!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: idlemao on Fri, 06 July 2018, 19:48:51
Also searching for an OG Tulip (I was tracking this too, but missed out when it got lost in the shuffle   :'(
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Fri, 06 July 2018, 22:12:48
Same.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:27:31
Going to echo a few of these last posts and state my interest in taking over someones APL order. Also interested in Icon Mods, RGB add on and the retro winkeys
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Tue, 21 August 2018, 07:16:21
Any updates on this Hammer?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 28 August 2018, 10:16:49
Curious as well if the shipping date is anywhere near realistic.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: AuDiTH on Mon, 03 September 2018, 00:07:25
Any updates on this Hammer?

Just found out that GB failed in this announcement: http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031

Basically the announcement said LogicKeyboard, the company who provides the blank BSP caps stopped making them and refused to contact Hammer further.

So Hammer is making a cheaper PBT set similar to BSP called HSP with winkey, ISO, 6u, 6.25u and 7u spacebar support, and different types of homing keys.
Title: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 03 September 2018, 09:26:13
I looked over a google translated version of the article posted above and while Im still a bit disappointed in the fact that it wont be BSP Im really excited for the prospect of improved compatibility and hopefully just as smooth texture as BSP.

However, the one key size that I didnt see mentioned that I would really, really like to see is a 1.75u R4 (shift) key. This would vastly improve the compatibility of the proposed HSP over and beyond what is pictured/mentioned in the article!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Mon, 03 September 2018, 10:12:40

Just found out that GB failed in this announcement: http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031

Basically the announcement said LogicKeyboard, the company who provides the blank BSP caps stopped making them and refused to contact Hammer further.

So Hammer is making a cheaper PBT set similar to BSP called HSP with winkey, ISO, 6u, 6.25u and 7u spacebar support, and different types of homing keys.
Much appreciated. Thanks man!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 03 September 2018, 10:19:25

Just found out that GB failed in this announcement: http://www.geekmaker.com/index/bbs/forum_content?id=230&_wv=1031

Basically the announcement said LogicKeyboard, the company who provides the blank BSP caps stopped making them and refused to contact Hammer further.

So Hammer is making a cheaper PBT set similar to BSP called HSP with winkey, ISO, 6u, 6.25u and 7u spacebar support, and different types of homing keys.
Much appreciated. Thanks man!

Very interesting events. Thank you Audith
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 03 September 2018, 13:27:05
+1 for 1.75u Shift!! This would change things a lot. I also vouch for an alpha colored pipe and backslash key | \ for top row, HHKB layout.

I looked over a google translated version of the article posted above and while Im still a bit disappointed in the fact that it wont be BSP Im really excited for the prospect of improved compatibility and hopefully just as smooth texture as BSP.

However, the one key size that I didnt see mentioned that I would really, really like to see is a 1.75u R4 (shift) key. This would vastly improve the compatibility of the proposed HSP over and beyond what is pictured/mentioned in the article!

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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 04 September 2018, 08:28:55
According to the screenshots of conversation, the group buy was launched without ever getting confirmation from logickeyboards that they'd supply blank BSP keysets.

Yikes.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 04 September 2018, 10:31:35
According to the screenshots of conversation, the group buy was launched without ever getting confirmation from logickeyboards that they'd supply blank BSP keysets.

Not all screenshots were made public. Also, I'm pretty sure MD wouldn't launch a GB without knowing costs first.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 04 September 2018, 11:33:57
According to the screenshots of conversation, the group buy was launched without ever getting confirmation from logickeyboards that they'd supply blank BSP keysets.

Not all screenshots were made public.

I'm sure they weren't, but the 6 screenshots, called "key messages", indicate they never received a reply from logickeyboards until after the GB was already launched.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 05 September 2018, 01:13:07
With the coming changes, it'd be neat to see a R4 1.75u Shift key for compatibility in HHKB layout and split Right Shift layouts.

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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 September 2018, 13:39:58
I was told told over a slack message by one of the hammer guys that the massdrop GB will be treated differently than the china GB (i.e. not cancelled), and that he is writing something in english

so update soon i guess
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 07 September 2018, 02:04:01
From Massdrop: (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk#discussions)


Dear Customers,

Its with great regret to inform you that as of this time the group-buy from BSP is cancelled. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused everyone involved.  If you are affected please take the time to read the following details of our situation and our plans moving forward.

Our intention to run a BSP group-buy to the end has always been a top priority, and we can only hope the following explanation will help to detail how this buy has failed.  In February of this year our team used a broker to develop relations with BSP Asia,  Logicalkeyboard, to provide us with blank keycaps for our group-buy projects including single 1u caps. With our brokered relationship with BSP appearing secure we proposed our first group-buy for high quality PBT dyesub reissues of classic Cherry keycaps. The reception of this group-buy was very popular and we quickly procured samples of a dyesub product through our contacts.  After posting the sample images our group-buy expanded globally.  We were encouraged by the public reception of our samples and excited to offer these high quality sets. The months which followed became a nightmare which ultimately lead us to today.

After collecting all the orders from all of our vendors globally and submitted documentation through our broker we received no response.  We began to seek further clarity and reached out to BSP, Logicalkeyboard, directly.  When direct communication was finally accomplished we were told PBT keycaps are no longer an item which can be ordered .  We really wanted to make this work for everyone - the members, Massdrop and the design of the keycaps.After all, BSP keycaps is one of the most authentic cherry sets for  keyboard enthusiasts. In the end, after long sessions of communication  our offers to increase the MOQ, and even offers to purchase the molding from Logicalkeyboard were ultimately ignored.

We feel a great deal of remorse and guilt in cancelling this group-buy.  We were unable to reissue caps or save the old  original Cherry pbt mold.  As we have come to know, BSP sublimation keycap production is very expensive outside of Europe. Changing international trade climate  high postage and tariffs between Europe to Asia makes reopening relationships impossible.  While we are apologetic we also have a plan to resolve this problem in the long term.

We are launching a new product we will call H(ammer)SP.  Our goal is to retool and improve upon the best features of what made BSP keycaps a true legacy product.  For those who wish to remain in our group buy we are offering two complete the sets of HSP for each set of BSP ordered; one set for your original order, another will be the never-sold Cyrillic or Hebrew dye-subbed set. The Hebrew and Cyrillic sets will be distributed randomly, For example, if an Arabic set was ordered a customer would receive either a Cyrillic or Hebrew set in addition to the Arabic.  The difference in between the original order and HSP is the keycaps will not be made by BSP.  We will also offer refunds for anyone in the group buy who would like it, please reach out to Massdrop Support for the refund/cancellation.

The HSP keycaps are similar to the BSP in profile, feeling, and color.  In addition to doing our best to recreate these qualities we have improved the following defects we felt were not a feature of the product:

Normalizing R4 height to Cherry standard while retaining the BSP R5 standard.
ISO layout support.
WK layout support.
6U, 6.25U, 7U pbt spacebar support.
A variety of four homing key molds: bars, scoops, dots and no homing.

This announcement has not come without a considerable effort from team Hammer to fix the issue before causing a problem for enthusiasts.  We have already completed the injection molding, finish, and production proofing. The performance of our manufacturing is very satisfying testers who work closely with Team Hammer.  By moving to the city which the injection factory is located we have had a hand in adjusting the fit and finish of the products coming out of our custom molds.

To be clear about our plans for production after completing our duty to existing customers we will have four sets planned for regular release: Original Tulip \ Tulip GK \ APL \ Arabic.  Our price for future group-buys will be announced soon and set a new standard for affordable quality.

Sincerely,
Team Hammer
Sep.,6,2018

Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: AuDiTH on Fri, 07 September 2018, 03:27:51
From Massdrop: (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk#discussions)


Dear Customers,

Its with great regret to inform you that as of this time the group-buy from BSP is cancelled. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused everyone involved.  If you are affected please take the time to read the following details of our situation and our plans moving forward.

Our intention to run a BSP group-buy to the end has always been a top priority, and we can only hope the following explanation will help to detail how this buy has failed.  In February of this year our team used a broker to develop relations with BSP Asia,  Logicalkeyboard, to provide us with blank keycaps for our group-buy projects including single 1u caps. With our brokered relationship with BSP appearing secure we proposed our first group-buy for high quality PBT dyesub reissues of classic Cherry keycaps. The reception of this group-buy was very popular and we quickly procured samples of a dyesub product through our contacts.  After posting the sample images our group-buy expanded globally.  We were encouraged by the public reception of our samples and excited to offer these high quality sets. The months which followed became a nightmare which ultimately lead us to today.

After collecting all the orders from all of our vendors globally and submitted documentation through our broker we received no response.  We began to seek further clarity and reached out to BSP, Logicalkeyboard, directly.  When direct communication was finally accomplished we were told PBT keycaps are no longer an item which can be ordered .  We really wanted to make this work for everyone - the members, Massdrop and the design of the keycaps.After all, BSP keycaps is one of the most authentic cherry sets for  keyboard enthusiasts. In the end, after long sessions of communication  our offers to increase the MOQ, and even offers to purchase the molding from Logicalkeyboard were ultimately ignored.

We feel a great deal of remorse and guilt in cancelling this group-buy.  We were unable to reissue caps or save the old  original Cherry pbt mold.  As we have come to know, BSP sublimation keycap production is very expensive outside of Europe. Changing international trade climate  high postage and tariffs between Europe to Asia makes reopening relationships impossible.  While we are apologetic we also have a plan to resolve this problem in the long term.

We are launching a new product we will call H(ammer)SP.  Our goal is to retool and improve upon the best features of what made BSP keycaps a true legacy product.  For those who wish to remain in our group buy we are offering two complete the sets of HSP for each set of BSP ordered; one set for your original order, another will be the never-sold Cyrillic or Hebrew dye-subbed set. The Hebrew and Cyrillic sets will be distributed randomly, For example, if an Arabic set was ordered a customer would receive either a Cyrillic or Hebrew set in addition to the Arabic.  The difference in between the original order and HSP is the keycaps will not be made by BSP.  We will also offer refunds for anyone in the group buy who would like it, please reach out to Massdrop Support for the refund/cancellation.

The HSP keycaps are similar to the BSP in profile, feeling, and color.  In addition to doing our best to recreate these qualities we have improved the following defects we felt were not a feature of the product:

Normalizing R4 height to Cherry standard while retaining the BSP R5 standard.
ISO layout support.
WK layout support.
6U, 6.25U, 7U pbt spacebar support.
A variety of four homing key molds: bars, scoops, dots and no homing.

This announcement has not come without a considerable effort from team Hammer to fix the issue before causing a problem for enthusiasts.  We have already completed the injection molding, finish, and production proofing. The performance of our manufacturing is very satisfying testers who work closely with Team Hammer.  By moving to the city which the injection factory is located we have had a hand in adjusting the fit and finish of the products coming out of our custom molds.

To be clear about our plans for production after completing our duty to existing customers we will have four sets planned for regular release: Original Tulip \ Tulip GK \ APL \ Arabic.  Our price for future group-buys will be announced soon and set a new standard for affordable quality.

Sincerely,
Team Hammer
Sep.,6,2018


Thanks for letting us know. Good to see that we're receiving another base set for compensation.

Another issue I can think of is the addon kits. Are they replicating those as well?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 07 September 2018, 09:30:30
Well, they replicated the key molds already, no reason not to produce the addon sublimations.

This is good news btw. I still trust Hammer to deliver quality-wise.

(and of course I really hope for the short right shift key to be added, maybe even true HHKB support)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 07 September 2018, 11:47:46
I wonder if BSP Denmark would still produce blanks? I'd really like to see color accurate pictures comparing HSP, BSP  and Enjoy PBT.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: idlemao on Fri, 07 September 2018, 12:47:30
Does this mean sets will be available in the future for those who didn't get in on the original group buy?

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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 07 September 2018, 13:14:24
Does this mean sets will be available in the future for those who didn't get in on the original group buy?

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To be clear about our plans for production after completing our duty to existing customers we will have four sets planned for regular release: Original Tulip \ Tulip GK \ APL \ Arabic.  Our price for future group-buys will be announced soon and set a new standard for affordable quality.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 20 September 2018, 21:19:32
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk/2205997?utm_source=linkshare&referer=V9NXG8

Hi all, it looks like HSP's group-buy has started in China. However, the renders show that there is no split backspace support. It would be very much appreciated if people could vouch and support the need for this compatibility, as it is crucial for so many layouts, especially HHKB-style.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 10 October 2018, 11:52:09

Slight update on these  :eek:

(https://i.imgur.com/TbDdLIz.png)

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/FzP1P8rjSYeQpOWLWffD_2ed9fe841fb5c030.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=750&dpr=1&q=80)

I'll be interested in an APL set if someone doesn't mind separating with their "free" set!!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Fri, 12 October 2018, 04:16:11
Slight update on these  :eek:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TbDdLIz.png)

Thanks! Looks like things are moving along. Cautiously optimistic = holidays 2018?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 12 October 2018, 11:04:32
Slight update on these  :eek:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TbDdLIz.png)

Thanks! Looks like things are moving along. Cautiously optimistic = holidays 2018?

Seems like it could be a very good holidays indeed! I'd really like to see some closeups of how these compare to BSP and Enjoy PBT
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Sat, 27 October 2018, 03:53:22
Bad news from massdrop and the reason is very unclear.

Drop status update.

Hello Everyone,
We hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it has been brought to our attention that the Hammer BSP Classic Beige PBT Dye-Subbed Keycap Set you ordered has become backordered. We're afraid we don't know if more inventory will become available. As we're unable to guarantee that we will receive this item, we've cancelled your order and issued a full refund to your original payment method. You can expect to see the funds back in your account within the next 2-3 business days.
We're sorry that this happened. As a way of apology we've applied a $20 credit to your member account. This credit will be applied to the next drop you join and will appear as a discount in the checkout page. It expires one year from today.
If you would like to be notified when another drop for this product becomes active, please click the "Request" button on the drop page. Feel free to contact us if you have any questions or concerns.
Best wishes,
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Tue, 30 October 2018, 06:54:28
Hammer has sort of an update. He does not know what is going on. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk?sort=latest
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 01 November 2018, 02:27:55
Massdrop just fixed this problem
:)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Wetherbee on Thu, 01 November 2018, 03:56:20
Why not open up the buy for new orders?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 01 November 2018, 04:56:24
do you have an estimate for the shipping date for these sets?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 01 November 2018, 10:35:22
Why not open up the buy for new orders?
I need to satisfy these guys first, they chose to trust me even before they saw the sample. And their money is already in my pocket.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 01 November 2018, 10:36:03
do you have an estimate for the shipping date for these sets?
In this month!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 01 November 2018, 21:14:56
do you have an estimate for the shipping date for these sets?
In this month!
Yeeeah! thanks for the great news!  :-*
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 04 November 2018, 04:20:31


I need to satisfy these guys first, they chose to trust me even before they saw the sample. And their money is already in my pocket.

I still trust that this will go well. I am very excited. I hope Desko could make a comeback as well. Thank you so much, Hammer!

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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Sun, 02 December 2018, 21:58:24
Anyone receive theirs yet? I'd still like to pick up an APL set
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 December 2018, 01:54:02
Anyone receive theirs yet? I'd still like to pick up an APL set

as far as i know nobody has gotten a shipping notice yet
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 06 December 2018, 08:17:46
Have there been any pictures of finished sets? I want to see how the APL set turned out. I hear there was a China GB as well, have they received their orders yet?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 December 2018, 08:29:23
Have there been any pictures of finished sets? I want to see how the APL set turned out. I hear there was a China GB as well, have they received their orders yet?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk/2264181?utm_source=linkshare&referer=V9NXG8

And no to the question
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 09:29:40
Have there been any pictures of finished sets? I want to see how the APL set turned out. I hear there was a China GB as well, have they received their orders yet?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk/2264181?utm_source=linkshare&referer=V9NXG8

And no to the question

yessss those are looking good :D I really like the Hebrew additions and the Moscow Nights as well!!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Thu, 06 December 2018, 09:50:36
 :eek:
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: P1kas on Thu, 06 December 2018, 10:22:41
APL looks good :O

I wasn't aware of the red side-legends. Gonna be a hard choice between this and sourcing an  IMSTO Ural set
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 09:12:09
I'm watching an unboxing of 6/8 of these at work

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/353408735
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 10:24:43
I'm watching an unboxing of 6/8 of these at work

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/353408735

update: most of one set is unboxed by 2 hours in. Some of the keys were apparently crooked. Legend irregularities are similar to the earlier JTK runs. "A" was thin. "G" was off. I don't know if these problems are consistent through each set.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 26 December 2018, 11:42:27
Yikes
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 26 December 2018, 13:34:04
Mine haven't even shipped -_- it seems to be taking so long for those who got child kits (like the Icon Mods or the RGB kit)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 28 December 2018, 14:29:48
Mine haven't even shipped -_- it seems to be taking so long for those who got child kits (like the Icon Mods or the RGB kit)

Hopefully you do soon! I'm dying to see more of how they came out..

Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: widdlekitty on Fri, 28 December 2018, 15:13:28
I am also waiting for shipping. I also ordered child kits.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 31 December 2018, 00:14:19
I'm here if anyone has buyer's remorse  :))

Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 03 January 2019, 21:22:54
I'm watching an unboxing of 6/8 of these at work

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/353408735
Yeah sorry to Anthony about the crooked stems and double P, PM me if you guys suffered these issues and I will send you the replacement, as for the price, Chinese Taobao/GM gbs is 133 keys but for MD gb is 145 keys, that makes the price different.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 03 January 2019, 21:41:50
Yeah sorry to Anthony about the crooked stems and double P, PM me if you guys suffered these issues and I will send you the replacement, as for the price, Chinese Taobao/GM gbs is 133 keys but for MD gb is 145 keys, that makes the price different.

Thanks for the clarification, Hammer.

I have a question -- will there be any extras sold in any platform? I am looking for an OG Tulip set or a Hebrew Green set.

Many of us are still waiting to receive our orders from Massdrop -- where should we report if we find any crooked stems or double/missing keys (or any other issues)? To Massdrop or to you directly?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:15:28
Yeah sorry to Anthony about the crooked stems and double P, PM me if you guys suffered these issues and I will send you the replacement, as for the price, Chinese Taobao/GM gbs is 133 keys but for MD gb is 145 keys, that makes the price different.

Thanks for the clarification, Hammer.

I have a question -- will there be any extras sold in any platform? I am looking for an OG Tulip set or a Hebrew Green set.

Many of us are still waiting to receive our orders from Massdrop -- where should we report if we find any crooked stems or double/missing keys (or any other issues)? To Massdrop or to you directly?
To me directly, and sorry I have nothing to sell now.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:18:39
Yeah sorry to Anthony about the crooked stems and double P, PM me if you guys suffered these issues and I will send you the replacement, as for the price, Chinese Taobao/GM gbs is 133 keys but for MD gb is 145 keys, that makes the price different.

Thanks for the clarification, Hammer.

I have a question -- will there be any extras sold in any platform? I am looking for an OG Tulip set or a Hebrew Green set.

Many of us are still waiting to receive our orders from Massdrop -- where should we report if we find any crooked stems or double/missing keys (or any other issues)? To Massdrop or to you directly?
To me directly, and sorry I have nothing to sell now.

I should have joined that GB...
do you plan on selling anything soon?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:24:51
Yeah sorry to Anthony about the crooked stems and double P, PM me if you guys suffered these issues and I will send you the replacement, as for the price, Chinese Taobao/GM gbs is 133 keys but for MD gb is 145 keys, that makes the price different.

Thanks for the clarification, Hammer.

I have a question -- will there be any extras sold in any platform? I am looking for an OG Tulip set or a Hebrew Green set.

Many of us are still waiting to receive our orders from Massdrop -- where should we report if we find any crooked stems or double/missing keys (or any other issues)? To Massdrop or to you directly?
To me directly, and sorry I have nothing to sell now.

Thanks. I will report back once I get my order from MD. Look forward to them!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:09:28
Thank you for the update, Hammer.

Mr. HorrorWriter posted a few photos of the Hebrew and Tulip set in the discussion thread and I think they look really good! https://imgur.com/a/6GAZxIA (https://imgur.com/a/6GAZxIA)



Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 16 January 2019, 01:39:39
just got mine today. Ill check later after i get home if there is any crooked stems.

Initial comparison with BSP Cyrillic (left) and it looks like the BSP has sharper lines/edges compared to this set.
(https://i.imgur.com/NZgfGC5.jpg)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Eastji on Fri, 18 January 2019, 03:54:35
I spent a lot of time going through my keys and have sent a message regarding replacements. Thank you!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:45:11
I've sent a message or two regarding replacements. Thanks

edit: Has anyone been able to get a reply regarding replacements? Maybe CNY is delaying stuff?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 27 January 2019, 01:39:19
It's been another 9 days....still no response. Has anyone gotten any response or any replacements? Kind of getting annoyed with this lack of response.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 January 2019, 01:54:08
It's been another 9 days....still no response. Has anyone gotten any response or any replacements? Kind of getting annoyed with this lack of response.

been talking to them about something else and basically all i've gotten is "keep waiting"
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 27 January 2019, 06:51:34
Just got my HSP sets (Greek Tulip and Hebrew) during this week. And i got some time to test the Greek Tulip.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4822/33017572378_64faae9cb4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SiDFXh)GK Tulip (https://flic.kr/p/SiDFXh) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr

The surface is very textured, so that is a valuable info for those who are interested in getting those in the future.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: P1kas on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:56:18
Just got my HSP sets

Did you get any crooked caps? Have you noticed any issues with the legends?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:58:30
Just got my HSP sets

Did you get any crooked caps? Have you noticed any issues with the legends?

Not what i know of. I just covered a canoe with the keys and i didn't find any issues so far.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 29 January 2019, 07:28:08
Mine has minor crooked caps issue. What I am more concerned is the inconsistency of the legends' thickness, for example A is way thinner than M.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Gamecat on Sat, 02 February 2019, 13:55:42
Received my sets and they are overall awesome! 
I do have a few caps in each set (APL/Sakura) that are crooked and while APL "A" key legend looks correct the Sakura "A" does look thin compared with other legends as mentioned.  I also noticed that in APL set I received PrSc/Pause with the German front legend instead of SysRq/Break.
Hammer, will send you PM soon with overall issues once I can get all the keys mounted, thanks for taking care of the issues! :)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 11 February 2019, 15:33:04
There are rumors of a future CRP dye sub run. Is there any truth in that?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 11 February 2019, 15:35:05
There are rumors of a future CRP dye sub run. Is there any truth in that?

Apparently so.

However, I also have not received a response regarding replacement keys for this group-buy's sets.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:32:12
Does anyone know if we can now get some replacement for crooked/misaligned caps? It's getting kind of frustrating to get 0 contact.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:39:34
Does anyone know if we can now get some replacement for crooked/misaligned caps? It's getting kind of frustrating to get 0 contact.

Radio silent here.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:46:34
also did get some crooked caps and inconsistencies on the legends. Also being it too textured, the caps would just attract dirt when i put them in my cloth bag. Seems that dirt can only be removed by hard brushing it with soap and water, not really sure about this but it cant be removed by rubbing it alone.

Another thing is that led shine thru them which is weird for me compared to all the pbt caps i own.

(https://i.imgur.com/BkKR1bR.jpg)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 05 March 2019, 23:25:23
Can we please get an update on getting crooked and misaligned caps replaced?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 05 March 2019, 23:30:40
Would appreciate an update on that as well as whether R2 will be happening in an international group-buy as well. The silence is deafening.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 05 March 2019, 23:51:42
Would appreciate an update on that as well as whether R2 will be happening in an international group-buy as well. The silence is deafening.

I second this. So we can at least decide if we hop on the taobao groupbuy haha
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: gabbbe on Sun, 10 March 2019, 17:35:16
Would appreciate an update on that as well as whether R2 will be happening in an international group-buy as well. The silence is deafening.

I second this. So we can at least decide if we hop on the taobao groupbuy haha

Is there a taobao GB of this keyset going on????
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:50:44
Would appreciate an update on that as well as whether R2 will be happening in an international group-buy as well. The silence is deafening.

I second this. So we can at least decide if we hop on the taobao groupbuy haha

Is there a taobao GB of this keyset going on????
There's something on massdrop right now, but the information is spotty and half recycled from the previous BSP drop. The Taobao groupbuy probably had more up to date info if anyone can find it
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: gabbbe on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:52:15
Would appreciate an update on that as well as whether R2 will be happening in an international group-buy as well. The silence is deafening.

I second this. So we can at least decide if we hop on the taobao groupbuy haha

Is there a taobao GB of this keyset going on????
There's something on massdrop right now, but the information is spotty and half recycled from the previous BSP drop. The Taobao groupbuy probably had more up to date info of anyone can find it

I saw it on Massdrop, I might get it from there. Do you have the link of the taobao one? I tried to find without success...


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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:53:23
The Geekmaker/Taobao group-buy is now closed. If you want in on the R2 kits, you have to enter via Massdrop, which is now open here.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammerworks-crp-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set

I made also a comment about Massdrop imposing some sort of "5 kit restriction" on orders. I have PM'd Hammer about this, and contacted Massdrop staff as well.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammerworks-crp-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set/talk/2369379
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 March 2019, 12:02:20
Nice.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dallman5 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 12:12:44
HHKB delete is a modifier not an alpha, please consider changing the color accordingly.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: gabbbe on Tue, 12 March 2019, 14:21:41
I bought some. Wish it had black win key though...


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Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 13 March 2019, 02:08:53
HHKB delete is a modifier not an alpha, please consider changing the color accordingly.

This
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: t8c on Wed, 13 March 2019, 06:00:09
Desko and Peacock finally back!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 20 April 2019, 20:32:59
Has anyone gotten their replacement caps for the defective ones they received from R1? I'm still waiting on mine...
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 20 April 2019, 20:38:21
Has anyone gotten their replacement caps for the defective ones they received from R1? I'm still waiting on mine...

Nope.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: nickaster1 on Sun, 21 April 2019, 01:32:53
Hey can someone remind me the ETD for the GB on geekmaker/taobao? Cant find the link anywhere
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 07 May 2019, 13:39:40
Does anyone here know of a way to contact hammer directly? The amount of time I've been waiting for a response or replacement caps for my defective ones is ridiculous considering he is the one who wrote that all we would have to do is send him a message of which ones are defective and that he would send new ones.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 13:53:07
Well, some more solid information from the latest update from the drop team.

(https://i.imgur.com/JQY0GeP.png)

Since it seems noone has received their replacements from CRP R1 yet, perhaps the replacements are being produced within this run.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 16 July 2019, 14:26:10
Well, some more solid information from the latest update from the drop team.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JQY0GeP.png)


Since it seems noone has received their replacements from CRP R1 yet, perhaps the replacements are being produced within this run.

I hope this is the case, but Hammer never provided any further details regarding replacements.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Tue, 16 July 2019, 14:48:16
Still waiting for round 2.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 15:03:31
Well, some more solid information from the latest update from the drop team.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JQY0GeP.png)


Since it seems noone has received their replacements from CRP R1 yet, perhaps the replacements are being produced within this run.

I hope this is the case, but Hammer never provided any further details regarding replacements.

This was the last I heard, in March.

"we can give you a replacement for the crooked stems! You know the old CRP have this issues so we make a new mould, we are testing the new mould these day and I do think we can solve this question."

I didn't really think about it at the time but I've heard making and testing moulds can be a pretty time consuming process. I'm hopeful this means no corrections will be needed from this round. Perhaps just a month past the projected ship date is not so bad considering..

Still waiting for round 2.

That was BSP though and shipping handled through Imsto.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Tue, 16 July 2019, 15:16:34
Well, some more solid information from the latest update from the drop team.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JQY0GeP.png)


Since it seems noone has received their replacements from CRP R1 yet, perhaps the replacements are being produced within this run.

I hope this is the case, but Hammer never provided any further details regarding replacements.

This was the last I heard, in March.

"we can give you a replacement for the crooked stems! You know the old CRP have this issues so we make a new mould, we are testing the new mould these day and I do think we can solve this question."

I didn't really think about it at the time but I've heard making and testing moulds can be a pretty time consuming process. I'm hopeful this means no corrections will be needed from this round. Perhaps just a month past the projected ship date is not so bad considering..

Still waiting for round 2.

That was BSP though and shipping handled through Imsto.

Oh, I see.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 15:18:49
Well, some more solid information from the latest update from the drop team.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JQY0GeP.png)


Since it seems noone has received their replacements from CRP R1 yet, perhaps the replacements are being produced within this run.

I hope this is the case, but Hammer never provided any further details regarding replacements.

This was the last I heard, in March.

"we can give you a replacement for the crooked stems! You know the old CRP have this issues so we make a new mould, we are testing the new mould these day and I do think we can solve this question."

I didn't really think about it at the time but I've heard making and testing moulds can be a pretty time consuming process. I'm hopeful this means no corrections will be needed from this round. Perhaps just a month past the projected ship date is not so bad considering..

Still waiting for round 2.

That was BSP though and shipping handled through Imsto.

Oh, I see.

That was less for you and more for anyone who would be confused as to what your statement had to do with this thread. You're welcome though, if that cleared anything up for you
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 09:30:53
(https://i.imgur.com/NCcUQgW.png)
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 10:19:36
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NCcUQgW.png)


Same here!! Hurray!
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 19 August 2019, 14:06:01
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NCcUQgW.png)


Same here!! Hurray!

Yes, it was a very nice surprise this morning! I'm interested to see how this new round came out. Like others, I'm still disappointed in the lack of presence team hammer has had the past few months. It would be really nice to know if these shipments may contain corrected keys from the first run.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 19 August 2019, 14:29:21
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NCcUQgW.png)


Same here!! Hurray!

Yes, it was a very nice surprise this morning! I'm interested to see how this new round came out. Like others, I'm still disappointed in the lack of presence team hammer has had the past few months. It would be really nice to know if these shipments may contain corrected keys from the first run.

That sure would be nice. I still have sets needing some replacement keys.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 20 August 2019, 19:59:04
Whose CRP order has not shipped yet?  :(
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: phorx on Wed, 21 August 2019, 07:48:35
I just got my shipping notification a couple hours ago, so they're still slowly rolling along.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: romevi on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:16:48
Whose CRP order has not shipped yet?  :(

Mine.  :(
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:31:16
Super annoying/disappointing that DROP alerts you that the product has been shipped and a full work week later, the package hasn't moved at all. Does DROP do this with all their products?  :confused:
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:34:23
Super annoying/disappointing that DROP alerts you that the product has been shipped and a full work week later, the package hasn't moved at all. Does DROP do this with all their products?  :confused:

it's happened twice with me.  I'm guessing they make a shipping label at end of order fulfillment, but they only ship out on certain days.  So, "It's shipped" really just means, "we printed a shipping label for it"
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 26 August 2019, 19:35:20
Super annoying/disappointing that DROP alerts you that the product has been shipped and a full work week later, the package hasn't moved at all. Does DROP do this with all their products?  :confused:

The issue is that they didn't disclose it shipped from China. I've never had them ship like this before but it makes me question their QC process. People who purchased from TB in the states have already started getting their sets FWIW.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:46:50
Super annoying/disappointing that DROP alerts you that the product has been shipped and a full work week later, the package hasn't moved at all. Does DROP do this with all their products?  :confused:

The issue is that they didn't disclose it shipped from China. I've never had them ship like this before but it makes me question their QC process. People who purchased from TB in the states have already started getting their sets FWIW.
What QC process?  :)) Did they complete a review by pictures? Send a delegate? Doubt it

Well, if it's coming straight from China/Hammer that would at least explain the tracking delay, my tracking was updated after a week  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Sun, 01 September 2019, 11:09:34
Gotta say, the APL set looks really nice  ;D and I don't see any crooked keys in this shipment. Still no word on replacements from the original though
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: fleeceman on Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:38:04
Are there any plans for a CRP set with ISO UK compatibility?
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 14 October 2019, 17:05:03
Gotta say, the APL set looks really nice  ;D and I don't see any crooked keys in this shipment. Still no word on replacements from the original though

It's never going to happen, Hammer is a liar.
Title: Re: Hammer Dye-sub BSP Group buy Round4 info
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 14 October 2019, 19:54:59
Gotta say, the APL set looks really nice  ;D and I don't see any crooked keys in this shipment. Still no word on replacements from the original though

It's never going to happen, Hammer is a liar.

:confused: