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Title: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 20 October 2018, 01:57:28
Hi~HB85's GB is open~

Inspired by SONY's HitBit series computers, HB85 is an interesting looking custom mechanical keyboard designed by Gray Studio, the team that brought you the beloved COD67.

IC
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97216.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94753.msg2580101#msg2580101

GB:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/gray-hb85

OldHitBit101
(https://i.imgur.com/16AYAGH.jpg)
Modern HB85
(https://i.imgur.com/AISQasq.jpg)

DESIGN AND LAYOUT
Perhaps one of the most iconic feature of the HB85 is it's oddly intriguing design. The mid-piece design not only pays homage to the HitBit computers but also enable more color combinations and creates profound visual impact.
(https://i.imgur.com/KYWgB03.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G6ccfKQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8R0R5w8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JTRYuri.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lzey1JJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rwnq4ZQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B7MRmH6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lD1eTS4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oPHQnJ8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dgorpYI.jpg)

The mid-piece will also come in 3 variants, each enabling different layouts: STT, BASIC, and  AOP.
(https://i.imgur.com/hVg9nxA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mrbAnap.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pqVYRiz.jpg)

7 different anodized colors will be available for the HB85

Colors available: Black, Gray, Silver, Blue, Green, Violet, Red
Housing and aluminum plate will share the same color
Mid-piece and aluminum nametag will share the same color
(https://i.imgur.com/Yra72dY.jpg)
Black, silver and grey can reference from sample photo.

PLATE
HB85 will come with an aluminum plate. The plate will be of the same color as the housing and you could choose from half plate or full plate.

Extra plates will also be available.
FULL PLATE(https://i.imgur.com/HeScvFa.jpg)
HALF PLATE(https://i.imgur.com/PQSzJjZ.jpg)

PCB
Bootmapper
ANSI and ISO support, Split left and right Shift support, Split Backspace support, Split 0 support
5 RGB underglow LED for the nametag on the top left
3 LED indicators support (LED required)
Mini-USB Port
(https://i.imgur.com/QzIxuP2.jpg)
The official version of PCB is black.

PARTS
Aluminum Housing (Top housing + Bottom cover)
Mid-piece
Aluminum Plate (Full plate or Half plate)
PCB
Aluminum Nametag
Translucent Acrylic Nametag
Vinyl Stickers
Screws, HEX tools and rubber feet

Vinyl Stickers
(https://i.imgur.com/TQuGQCS.jpg)

SPECS
HB85
Designed by Gray Studio
Manufactured in China

TIMEFRAME:
Group buy: Oct. 20th Ė Nov. 4th, 2018
Estimated ship date: Dec 2018 or Jan 2019


Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Signature on Sun, 21 October 2018, 04:42:57
Approved
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: tchalikias on Sun, 21 October 2018, 13:04:05
This looks terrific! Does the PCB support per switch LEDs? Also, what is the height of the front lip of the board? I love the design but I'm worried it could be tiresome on long typing sessions.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 21 October 2018, 15:14:08
curious i was looking at the extra parts on ZF and no extra mid pieces? it would be cool to be able to buy a different colored insert/mid but i understand thats probably not practical. anyways i grabbed one,
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 21 October 2018, 20:32:34
Approved
Thank you very much for approved! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 21 October 2018, 20:51:16
This looks terrific! Does the PCB support per switch LEDs? Also, what is the height of the front lip of the board? I love the design but I'm worried it could be tiresome on long typing sessions.
Thks frist!
Indeed, each switch has a separate led.
I made a picture of height.To be honest, it's a very suitable height.
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 21 October 2018, 21:10:30
curious i was looking at the extra parts on ZF and no extra mid pieces? it would be cool to be able to buy a different colored insert/mid but i understand thats probably not practical. anyways i grabbed one,
Tks frist,and I'll discuss with ZF to see if we can add the middle box as an additional option. :)
Finally, thank you again for your advice.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 21 October 2018, 21:29:57
curious i was looking at the extra parts on ZF and no extra mid pieces? it would be cool to be able to buy a different colored insert/mid but i understand thats probably not practical. anyways i grabbed one,
Tks frist,and I'll discuss with ZF to see if we can add the middle box as an additional option. :)
Finally, thank you again for your advice.

ill keep an eye out and if it's added ill add one or two to my order, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 21 October 2018, 21:38:33
curious i was looking at the extra parts on ZF and no extra mid pieces? it would be cool to be able to buy a different colored insert/mid but i understand thats probably not practical. anyways i grabbed one,
Tks frist,and I'll discuss with ZF to see if we can add the middle box as an additional option. :)
Finally, thank you again for your advice.

ill keep an eye out and if it's added ill add one or two to my order, thanks!
OK, if it's updated, I'll send you a message.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: saturnattack on Mon, 22 October 2018, 00:38:54
Ordered, but definitely interested in additional mid pieces as well.

I think I am set on the color, but is there any way to show the gray version of the housing?


Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: poolside on Mon, 22 October 2018, 01:02:28
I can't decide between STT and Basic layouts so I would be interested in an option for additional mid-pieces as well. This would make the color choice easier too.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Mearaz on Mon, 22 October 2018, 04:29:08
During the IC I didn't really like this board but now I gotta admit, its growing on me. I might pick one up, red base and black middle seems like the way to go for me.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 22 October 2018, 04:56:21
Ordered, but definitely interested in additional mid pieces as well.

I think I am set on the color, but is there any way to show the gray version of the housing?
Thks frist.
The extramid piece will be updated to ZF as soon as possible. After updating, I will contact you again and send you a gray photo later.

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 22 October 2018, 05:07:31
I can't decide between STT and Basic layouts so I would be interested in an option for additional mid-pieces as well. This would make the color choice easier too.
Thks frist.
The extra mid piece will be updated to ZF as soon as possible.So  can choose two layoutsat the same order.. :))
 After updating, I will contact you again .
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 22 October 2018, 05:11:03
During the IC I didn't really like this board but now I gotta admit, its growing on me. I might pick one up, red base and black middle seems like the way to go for me.
Thank you, so glad you like HB85.
 The matching of red and black is really magical.
And trust me, you will never regret choosing this kit. Because the surface treatment process is really good.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 23 October 2018, 08:38:38
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: nasp on Tue, 23 October 2018, 10:36:45
Do you know what it will cost to ship this to the United States? This thing looks heavy AF!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Poesjuh on Tue, 23 October 2018, 18:09:40
Do you know what it will cost to ship this to the United States? This thing looks heavy AF!
And to EU :P also curious for an estimate.


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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 23 October 2018, 19:11:58
Great Googly Moogly, this is beautiful!
Definitely going to try and make this one work for me
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:31:39
Do you know what it will cost to ship this to the United States? This thing looks heavy AF!
Ok, I'll check it out for you. But rest assured, because I've optimized a lot of the internal structure, so the HB85 isn't heavy. I've just weighed, all aluminum kit weighs 1.98kg;If you change the carbon plate it's a 1.93kg, plus the packing no more than 2.5kg.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:34:28
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
OK, wait for me. I will render you a silver / blue photo for your reference.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:36:25
Great Googly Moogly, this is beautiful!
Definitely going to try and make this one work for me
Ah,Thank you for the compliment!
Trust me,choosing hb851 will not disappoint you
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: alphabirth on Tue, 23 October 2018, 23:47:25
Man, I love this design!  I want this for KAM Wraith so hard.  Will there be a Euro proxy?  And also, is there a diagram showing supported layouts?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: factoryofidols on Wed, 24 October 2018, 00:41:08
Holy cow this looks perfect for the SA Godspeed build I want to do  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 24 October 2018, 01:49:04
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
OK, wait for me. I will render you a silver / blue photo for your reference.
Owo awesome!

Be the hero of the day even more, render it with SA Nautilus


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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: apricot on Wed, 24 October 2018, 02:27:42
AIRPOTTER, could you make a render showing the red colour please?
I need to figure out what colour goes best with EnjoyPBT Valentine. Maybe grey and silver?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 04:57:27
Man, I love this design!  I want this for KAM Wraith so hard.  Will there be a Euro proxy?  And also, is there a diagram showing supported layouts?
To be honest, match the KAM Wraith, I think dark and plain collocation are better than other colours.
Some renders.
All black
(https://i.imgur.com/xao8hye.jpg)
Blcak Grey 
(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)   
Gery Black
(https://i.imgur.com/qHXrbUq.jpg)
Hope to help you....

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 05:15:07
Holy cow this looks perfect for the SA Godspeed build I want to do  :eek:
Aha, I think like this wide border retro modeling keyboard is the most suitable to SA keycap.
Silver & grey looks good
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 05:27:24
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
OK, wait for me. I will render you a silver / blue photo for your reference.
Owo awesome!


Be the hero of the day even more, render it with SA Nautilus


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Say sorry frist, I really want to render with Nautilus,but I don't have a 3D model of the it :-[ :-[...

Sliver blue render
(https://i.imgur.com/rZjvjm8.jpg)

And I think grey/black or black/grey and Nautilus will be better. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 05:49:10
AIRPOTTER, could you make a render showing the red colour please?
I need to figure out what colour goes best with EnjoyPBT Valentine. Maybe grey and silver?
Ok,although I don't think red is suitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine,But I still rendered these pictures.
And II agree with you.I also think silver grey is a good choice.

Pictures of  silver&grey.I think this color looks pure and fresh and more suitable for  EnjoyPBT Valentine.
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8R0R5w8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JTRYuri.jpg)

Renders of red and other colours. :-[
(https://i.imgur.com/dthPOtD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TmN1X1m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SGY6u0y.jpg)
It's a bit unsuitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: apricot on Wed, 24 October 2018, 05:59:08
AIRPOTTER, could you make a render showing the red colour please?
I need to figure out what colour goes best with EnjoyPBT Valentine. Maybe grey and silver?
Ok,although I don't think red is suitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine,But I still rendered these pictures.
And II agree with you.I also think silver grey is a good choice.

Pictures of  silver&grey.I think this color looks pure and fresh and more suitable for  EnjoyPBT Valentine.

Renders of red and other colours.
It's a bit unsuitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine...
I was thinking maybe GMK WoB for red, but I think i'll get silver & grey.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: saturnattack on Wed, 24 October 2018, 09:01:32
Silver and Gray was my pick.  But the Gray/Black is tempting.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 24 October 2018, 12:18:10
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
OK, wait for me. I will render you a silver / blue photo for your reference.
Owo awesome!


Be the hero of the day even more, render it with SA Nautilus


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Say sorry frist, I really want to render with Nautilus,but I don't have a 3D model of the it :-[ :-[...

Sliver blue render
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rZjvjm8.jpg)


And I think grey/black or black/grey and Nautilus will be better. :)
Looks nice but I think Iím going to agree with you. That blue is to light for Nautilus. Thx for the render effort!


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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 24 October 2018, 13:30:40
Black on black, Gray base with black top, Silver base with gray top.... Those look so fantastic to me.  I am going to join the GB, I just have to wait until next month.  Thanks for the renders.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: child on Wed, 24 October 2018, 13:41:12
I must say the design looks absolutely fantastic, one thing making me hesitant to join is that I don't need numpad nor F keys. Do you plan a 60% or 65% of similar design in the future?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: nasp on Wed, 24 October 2018, 17:02:42
I must say the design looks absolutely fantastic, one thing making me hesitant to join is that I don't need numpad nor F keys. Do you plan a 60% or 65% of similar design in the future?

I think he answered this in the IC thread. He said he would and I very much hope he does.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 20:13:34
AIRPOTTER, could you make a render showing the red colour please?
I need to figure out what colour goes best with EnjoyPBT Valentine. Maybe grey and silver?
Ok,although I don't think red is suitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine,But I still rendered these pictures.
And II agree with you.I also think silver grey is a good choice.

Pictures of  silver&grey.I think this color looks pure and fresh and more suitable for  EnjoyPBT Valentine.

Renders of red and other colours.
It's a bit unsuitable for EnjoyPBT Valentine...
I was thinking maybe GMK WoB for red, but I think i'll get silver & grey.
Ah,black&red is  cool for GMK WoB,but silver gray is really beautiful,it looks clean and brisk.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 20:33:04
Silver and Gray was my pick.  But the Gray/Black is tempting.
To be honest, these two colors(Silver&gray  and  Gray&black) are all very good.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 24 October 2018, 20:45:45
Got any pictures of what the blue would look like? Might go for silver case and blue middle but don't have anything to work from now.

edit; is it the light blue as shown in one of the pictures? This light blue;
https://i.redd.it/g8v3ckqa2hj11.jpg
OK, wait for me. I will render you a silver / blue photo for your reference.
Owo awesome!


Be the hero of the day even more, render it with SA Nautilus


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Say sorry frist, I really want to render with Nautilus,but I don't have a 3D model of the it :-[ :-[...

Sliver blue render
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rZjvjm8.jpg)


And I think grey/black or black/grey and Nautilus will be better. :)
Looks nice but I think Iím going to agree with you. That blue is to light for Nautilus. Thx for the render effort!


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Ah, first of all, thank you for your affirmation. I'm so glad you will choose HB85.
 but don't need to say thanks for the renders. These are all I should do.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: LevelSteam on Thu, 25 October 2018, 15:47:36
That Grey frame w/black mid would look so amazing with Modern Dolch. What a time to be broke  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:18:08
Black on black, Gray base with black top, Silver base with gray top.... Those look so fantastic to me.  I am going to join the GB, I just have to wait until next month.  Thanks for the renders.
Don't say thank to me, I need to say thanks to you。 And welcome to the GB of HB85
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:20:37
I must say the design looks absolutely fantastic, one thing making me hesitant to join is that I don't need numpad nor F keys. Do you plan a 60% or 65% of similar design in the future?
There should be, but it  maybe next year.lol
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:22:15
I must say the design looks absolutely fantastic, one thing making me hesitant to join is that I don't need numpad nor F keys. Do you plan a 60% or 65% of similar design in the future?

I think he answered this in the IC thread. He said he would and I very much hope he does.
Thanks,I will design a 60% im HB style,but maybe next year...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:27:50
That Grey frame w/black mid would look so amazing with Modern Dolch. What a time to be broke  :eek:
It can only be said that gray and black are classics that never change. :p
And what mean of What a time to be broke,sorry I cant understand this... :(
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: mxgian99 on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:27:40
hi sorry, if you explaiend this in the IC, read through it but didn't catch it.  whats the point of the half plate vs the full plate? 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 26 October 2018, 16:44:57
oof wish the extra mids were so pricey but i think im gonna have to grab a couple!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Zuology on Fri, 26 October 2018, 17:01:53
hi sorry, if you explaiend this in the IC, read through it but didn't catch it.  whats the point of the half plate vs the full plate?

Half plate is intended to let the center plateless section's switches to flex more (the Alphas) as they rely solely on the PCB for support, giving a feel that many find preferable.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: mxgian99 on Fri, 26 October 2018, 17:17:15
thanks for the reply, i've never seen this before, so you build the outer edges plate mounting the switches but the middle section with pcb mounting the switches.   and the heights stay the same?  wow very interesting, learn something new every day! 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: LevelSteam on Fri, 26 October 2018, 21:04:41
That Grey frame w/black mid would look so amazing with Modern Dolch. What a time to be broke  :eek:
It can only be said that gray and black are classics that never change. :p
And what mean of What a time to be broke,sorry I cant understand this... :(
"Broke" as in I can't afford it right now, which is a shame because theyre absolutely gorgeous boards.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: rachel on Fri, 26 October 2018, 22:32:13
I am actually liking the design. Daring and something new. Good luck for the gb!


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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 27 October 2018, 07:21:39
I am actually liking the design. Daring and something new. Good luck for the gb!

Thks!
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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: poolside on Sat, 27 October 2018, 13:32:20
The bottom-right blocker length is shorter in this render than on the Basic mockup or prototype pictures.
How long will it be on the actual production boards?

(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/mrbAnap.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 27 October 2018, 15:27:13
The bottom-right blocker length is shorter in this render than on the Basic mockup or prototype pictures.
How long will it be on the actual production boards?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://imgur.com/mrbAnap.jpg)


Good eye.  Looks like the board has a 6.25 space bar but the render used a 7u
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 28 October 2018, 02:31:55
is there any way to add a mid to my order without getting nailed the 16.80 extra shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Sun, 28 October 2018, 06:42:27
I was thinking about putting SA Lime on this board but can't decide on the colors.
Grey-Silver or Silver-Gray or maybe something completely different?
Any suggestions?  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 28 October 2018, 06:54:43
is there any way to add a mid to my order without getting nailed the 16.80 extra shipping?
Just a minute. I'll check with zf's customer service and get back to you.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 28 October 2018, 06:56:15
I was thinking about putting SA Lime on this board but can't decide on the colors.
Grey-Silver or Silver-Gray or maybe something completely different?
Any suggestions?  :blank:
It's a tough choice, but it doesn't matter. Give me a minute. I'll show you two renders on my computer, and then you can make a decision
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 28 October 2018, 08:00:48
I was thinking about putting SA Lime on this board but can't decide on the colors.
Grey-Silver or Silver-Gray or maybe something completely different?
Any suggestions?  :blank:
OhOh!Oh, I just read it wrong.
About silver-Gray You can refer to these pictures.
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)
More:http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/10123

Gray-silver
(https://i.imgur.com/b2Uo7DD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0p7WoCi.jpg)
 I like  silver-Gray  more...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Sun, 28 October 2018, 08:13:39
I was thinking about putting SA Lime on this board but can't decide on the colors.
Grey-Silver or Silver-Gray or maybe something completely different?
Any suggestions?  :blank:
OhOh!Oh, I just read it wrong.
About silver-Gray You can refer to these pictures.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)

More:http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/10123

Gray-silver
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/b2Uo7DD.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0p7WoCi.jpg)

 I like  silver-Gray  more...

Hm yeah I think the Silver-Gray will fit the SA Lime the most. Going with green would probably be too much color.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 28 October 2018, 08:22:51
Still kinda bummed that the blue isnít darker :(


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Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Sun, 28 October 2018, 08:33:11
I just saw the built video from KeyClack on Youtube and I'm a bit confused with the key placement options for the modifier keys (ctrl, alt, super) on the right side of the spacebar.
Is it possible to place two 1.25 keys and one 1.0 key there on the AOP version?
In the layout preview for AOP it looks like there are three 1.0 keys placed next to each other but that wouldn't work with SA Lime since it doesn't have the R3 keys in that size.

Edit: A higher resolution image of the PCB might be helpful for this.

Edit No.2: I took a close look at all pictures and it seems that the bottom row is 16.25 keys wide. With the STT layout having a 0.25 spacing between the left arrow and the rightmost modifier key.
So it should be possible to fit two 1.25 keys and a 1.0 key next to a 6.25 spacebar on the AOP layout. Or have I miscalculated that? :)

Layout would be:
1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.0 1.25 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 28 October 2018, 12:01:32
I just saw the built video from KeyClack on Youtube and I'm a bit confused with the key placement options for the modifier keys (ctrl, alt, super) on the right side of the spacebar.
Is it possible to place two 1.25 keys and one 1.0 key there on the AOP version?
In the layout preview for AOP it looks like there are three 1.0 keys placed next to each other but that wouldn't work with SA Lime since it doesn't have the R3 keys in that size.

Edit: A higher resolution image of the PCB might be helpful for this.

Edit No.2: I took a close look at all pictures and it seems that the bottom row is 16.25 keys wide. With the STT layout having a 0.25 spacing between the left arrow and the rightmost modifier key.
So it should be possible to fit two 1.25 keys and a 1.0 key next to a 6.25 spacebar on the AOP layout. Or have I miscalculated that? :)

Layout would be:
1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.0 1.25 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
oops,layout is:
STT 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.25(0.5 block) 1 1 1 1
AOP 1.25 1.25 6.25 1  1 1 1 1 1 1
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Sun, 28 October 2018, 12:29:36
oops,layout is:
STT 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.25(0.5 block) 1 1 1 1
AOP 1.25 1.25 6.25 1  1 1 1 1 1 1

hm ok so what I though about will not work.
Too bad that the lime set doesn't have enough row3 keys in single width size...

Edit: Just realized that there is the newer version of SA Lime by Signature Plastics that has more R3 modifiers in single width size. Will probably go with that even if it is more expensive.
Should be better anyways since the Maxkeys version had the bad crackling problems...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 29 October 2018, 03:47:34
The bottom-right blocker length is shorter in this render than on the Basic mockup or prototype pictures.
How long will it be on the actual production boards?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://imgur.com/mrbAnap.jpg)

Oh, my fault.  This is the case, the rendering  is the old version (just to show the effect has not been updated, sorry), the layout diagram is a new version.
About the production cycle, This time it should be soon,in fact,the CNC of bottom shell has all been finished .
After the end of the GB, production and oxidation should be completed within 2-3 weeks. The rest is packing, because I try to lighten the overall weight.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 29 October 2018, 04:02:13
Still kinda bummed that the blue isnít darker :(


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm really sorry for that.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Mon, 29 October 2018, 05:20:51
Are there Pantone color codes for the case colors? Because I'm still not really sure about the gray.
In the black-gray comparison renders the gray mid-piece looks much darker than in the picture with the macbook (where it looks nearly white).

Edit: speaking of these two images.

(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)

Edit2:
Is it normal that the zFrontier support takes forever to answer emails?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 29 October 2018, 20:51:23
is there any way to add a mid to my order without getting nailed the 16.80 extra shipping?
Oh, customer service says: order and ask them to change the price.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 29 October 2018, 21:04:51
Are there Pantone color codes for the case colors? Because I'm still not really sure about the gray.
In the black-gray comparison renders the gray mid-piece looks much darker than in the picture with the macbook (where it looks nearly white).

Edit: speaking of these two images.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)


Edit2:
Is it normal that the zFrontier support takes forever to answer emails?
It should be the problem of light :(. Look at this picture about gray.
(https://i.imgur.com/B7MRmH6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0p7WoCi.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 29 October 2018, 21:30:07
is there any way to add a mid to my order without getting nailed the 16.80 extra shipping?
Oh, customer service says: order and ask them to change the price.

Sweet bought it and they refunded the shipping, thank you! Very excited, cant wait
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: mast3rwanderer on Tue, 30 October 2018, 02:57:02
Will the nametag just have the boards name on it? ie HB85?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: mxgian99 on Tue, 30 October 2018, 09:49:16
hi, is the half-plate option only available for extra plates?  i don't see it as an option with the kit.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:07:05
hi, is the half-plate option only available for extra plates?  i don't see it as an option with the kit.
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I'll ask ZF's customer service. But it may take hours to get back to you (it's 11 p.m. in China now, it's off work and it's going to be back in the morning)]
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:08:53
Will the nametag just have the boards name on it? ie HB85?
aye,its HB-85 :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:10:13
is there any way to add a mid to my order without getting nailed the 16.80 extra shipping?
Oh, customer service says: order and ask them to change the price.

Sweet bought it and they refunded the shipping, thank you! Very excited, cant wait
Thank you for choosing hb85. I will send it to you as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: sleepybrett on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:44:29
No joystick cluster NO DEAL
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 30 October 2018, 11:16:24
No joystick cluster NO DEAL
Time for some modding, then?
(https://http2.mlstatic.com/joystick-handy-pak-para-gameboy-pocket-producto-de-colecc-gk-D_NQ_NP_688210-MLV27055885429_032018-F.webp)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 October 2018, 04:53:43
Does anybody how long it usually takes the support to answer mails?
I sent them a question about 3 days ago and still no answer.
I also replied to their autoreply yesterday to maybe bump the ticket in their support system but still nothing.
Getting ignored by the support is not really cool since the GB ends in a few days.  :(
Anybody know another way of how I can contact them?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Skryzskruzzle on Wed, 31 October 2018, 05:27:03
Does anybody how long it usually takes the support to answer mails?
I sent them a question about 3 days ago and still no answer.

Id say that sounds about normal. I had a missing keycap from a JTK set I bought from them, and a representative (not bot) responded to me only after 6 days.

Once they do respond, theyre really helpful though.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 October 2018, 05:28:36
Id say that sounds about normal. I had a missing keycap from a JTK set I bought from them, and a representative (not bot) responded to me only after 6 days.

Once they do respond, theyre really helpful though.

Yeah 6 days won't help at all since the GB ends in 4 days...

Edit: Guess I won't buy the board then. For such high-priced products I was expecting a little bit better support...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:36:14
Does anybody how long it usually takes the support to answer mails?
I sent them a question about 3 days ago and still no answer.
I also replied to their autoreply yesterday to maybe bump the ticket in their support system but still nothing.
Getting ignored by the support is not really cool since the GB ends in a few days.  :(
Anybody know another way of how I can contact them?
Er,say sorry frist. but it is really  make me a little dizzy, because I remember  I replied to your  question.

You asked me about the layout of the bottom line, and I replied.

You asked me about color, and I replied.

now I really don't know what kind of problem you are talking about?Now let me ask you a second question, and then I'll reply to you.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:42:07
Id say that sounds about normal. I had a missing keycap from a JTK set I bought from them, and a representative (not bot) responded to me only after 6 days.

Once they do respond, theyre really helpful though.

Yeah 6 days won't help at all since the GB ends in 4 days...

Edit: Guess I won't buy the board then. For such high-priced products I was expecting a little bit better support...
Sorry,man.I really don't know what problems you are referring to.

If it's about the MAXKEY, I can't help you either,because I don't know them  more than you.

If it is the color of the case, I  rember I have sent you many pictures.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:44:42
Sorry,man.I really don't know what problems you are referring to.

If it's about the MAXKEY, I can't help you either,because I don't know them  more than you.

If it is the color of the case, I  rember I have sent you many pictures.

Dont' worry. It's not about you. You helped me great.

It's just something with zFrontier.
I asked them a few things about the shipping and customs handling and they simply do not answer any emails at all.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:46:55
Does anybody how long it usually takes the support to answer mails?
I sent them a question about 3 days ago and still no answer.

Id say that sounds about normal. I had a missing keycap from a JTK set I bought from them, and a representative (not bot) responded to me only after 6 days.

Once they do respond, theyre really helpful though.
Really sorry to hear that...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:48:08
Are there Pantone color codes for the case colors? Because I'm still not really sure about the gray.
In the black-gray comparison renders the gray mid-piece looks much darker than in the picture with the macbook (where it looks nearly white).

Edit: speaking of these two images.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lqyXFTQ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/80920PF.jpg)


Edit2:
Is it normal that the zFrontier support takes forever to answer emails?
OMG, are you talking about ZF?

If you have any questions, you can leave a message to me. I'll ask them.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 October 2018, 07:58:50
OMG, are you talking about ZF?

If you have any questions, you can leave a message to me. I'll ask them.

Yes I was talking about zFrontier :D
If they would reply to my email that I sent to contact@zfrontier.com I would already be happy.
According to the autoreply mail the ticketnumber is 7019
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:02:04
No joystick cluster NO DEAL
So depressed... :( :(
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:04:18
OMG, are you talking about ZF?

If you have any questions, you can leave a message to me. I'll ask them.

Yes I was talking about zFrontier :D
If they would reply to my email that I sent to contact@zfrontier.com I would already be happy.
According to the autoreply mail the ticketnumber is 7019

Oh, actually, I didn't contact them today either. They probably haven't seen your letter yet.

I also gave them a screenshot you , if they saw it, they would definitely reply.
Say sorry again...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:06:39
Oh, actually, I didn't contact them today either. They probably haven't seen your letter yet.

I also gave them a screenshot you , if they saw it, they would definitely reply.
Say sorry again...

Thanks for the help :)

I definitely want this board so it would be a shame if something like this came in the way of it :D

Edit: Got a reply now and problem got solved :D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: Vermilionone on Thu, 01 November 2018, 14:56:19
I just put in my order. This will be my first really premium keyboard and I have it mostly planned out already, so I'm super excited. I do have a question though. It is possible to add per-key LEDs, but will there be a way to adjust brightness?

Thank you
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: tchalikias on Thu, 01 November 2018, 16:11:43
I just put in my order. This will be my first really premium keyboard and I have it mostly planned out already, so I'm super excited. I do have a question though. It is possible to add per-key LEDs, but will there be a way to adjust brightness?

Thank you

While this hasn't been clarified, the PCB clearly supports through hole leds for each switch and since it uses Bootmapper at the very least I think one will be able to adjust led brightness through the utility
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: tchalikias on Fri, 02 November 2018, 17:33:16
Well, I went ahead and took the plunge (Gray/Silver). My first expensive GB! Can't wait to tinker with it!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 02 November 2018, 23:38:08
I just put in my order. This will be my first really premium keyboard and I have it mostly planned out already, so I'm super excited. I do have a question though. It is possible to add per-key LEDs, but will there be a way to adjust brightness?

Thank you
Sorry, I saw the news. Yes, each axis has a LED hole,and it can adjust brightness.
And thank you for choosing hb85.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 03 November 2018, 00:42:57
I just put in my order. This will be my first really premium keyboard and I have it mostly planned out already, so I'm super excited. I do have a question though. It is possible to add per-key LEDs, but will there be a way to adjust brightness?

Thank you

While this hasn't been clarified, the PCB clearly supports through hole leds for each switch and since it uses Bootmapper at the very least I think one will be able to adjust led brightness through the utility
Yes, absolutely!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 03 November 2018, 00:44:19
Well, I went ahead and took the plunge (Gray/Silver). My first expensive GB! Can't wait to tinker with it!
Thank you for choosing hb85. It will not disappoint you.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 03 November 2018, 07:51:51
Oh, actually, I didn't contact them today either. They probably haven't seen your letter yet.

I also gave them a screenshot you , if they saw it, they would definitely reply.
Say sorry again...

Thanks for the help :)

I definitely want this board so it would be a shame if something like this came in the way of it :D

Edit: Got a reply now and problem got solved :D
Hwllo,did they reply to your email?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: elmo on Sat, 03 November 2018, 08:32:45
Hwllo,did they reply to your email?

Jep. Problem got solved and I placed my order yesterday  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 03 November 2018, 11:46:24
Hwllo,did they reply to your email?

Jep. Problem got solved and I placed my order yesterday  ;D
Wow! I'm so glad to help you!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Fri, 16 November 2018, 11:28:53
On ZFrontier it looks like I can still order. Is that true? Is it in stock and shipping now since the group buy period is over?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: Aox on Sat, 17 November 2018, 12:39:35
I just placed an order on zFrontier for a Red with black mid.

Will I get in the group buy?  I figure it had been extended since I could still order.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 16:54:51
just saw this as well and if i can still order i may grab another mid and plate  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: elmo on Sun, 02 December 2018, 08:14:23
GB on zFrontier seems to be closed now.
Any news on production start yet?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Wed, 05 December 2018, 03:59:05
Progress update:
Cnc: 100%
Anodizing: 70%
 packaging and boxes: 50%
pcb: 70%
some photos:
(https://i.imgur.com/LM5FQOO.jpg<br />)
(https://i.imgur.com/eYaG35J.jpg<br />)
(https://i.imgur.com/SZpKr9T.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CF2D0U7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rX2s0QO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: factoryofidols on Wed, 05 December 2018, 09:09:36
Iím really upset with myself for not getting in on this GB. Looking real good so far.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(Last oneday)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 05 December 2018, 09:10:26
Progress update:
Cnc: 100%
Anodizing: 70%
 packaging and boxes: 50%
pcb: 70%

NICE!   :-X
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 06 December 2018, 16:20:52
Iím really upset with myself for not getting in on this GB. Looking real good so far.

Same. My wallet is happy though, so there's that.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 16:43:17
Everything is looking good! Cant wait!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: tchalikias on Fri, 07 December 2018, 06:05:21
Can't wait to receive this board!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 07 December 2018, 10:49:27
Wish I would've signed up for this GB in time
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: saturnattack on Fri, 07 December 2018, 12:11:15
I swear the GB window was extended by a month+.  There was plenty of time for this one folks, big retro KBs don't seem to fly off the shelf as fast.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 07 December 2018, 14:36:45
I didn't miss it, simply decided not to join it :P Way too much good stuff being made lately to join everything you want.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: factoryofidols on Sun, 23 December 2018, 21:19:49
Yeah still kicking myself for not going in on this one. I only saw it in the last couple days and just couldn't decide on a color combo in time.

Now with Godspeed MT3 on order this case would have been perfect for it.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: elmo on Mon, 31 December 2018, 03:20:08
Any ETA on shipping yet?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Mon, 31 December 2018, 08:34:39
Any ETA on shipping yet?  ;D
Customized wooden boxes are here!
When the keyboard package arrives, it will be ready for shipment. :p
(https://i.imgur.com/8kGWi6i.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/T5pALKq.jpg)
PS:I'm very sorry, the keyboard package was wrong several times in proofing, which delayed for some time. :( :( :(
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Vermilionone on Mon, 31 December 2018, 12:59:21
Awesome!

I can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: elmo on Tue, 01 January 2019, 07:43:47
Customized wooden boxes are here!
When the keyboard package arrives, it will be ready for shipment. :p

That's really great to hear!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: tchalikias on Tue, 01 January 2019, 11:10:10
Ah, that new board anticipation! :D

Quick question - the 3 leds on the top right, what kind of leds does the board support? Surface mounted or through hole? I can't tell from the photo.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: poolside on Tue, 01 January 2019, 17:25:58
The IC thread has a pic of the PCB (last one in the first post): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97216.0
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 02 January 2019, 06:02:25
Ah, that new board anticipation! :D

Quick question - the 3 leds on the top right, what kind of leds does the board support? Surface mounted or through hole? I can't tell from the photo.

quakemz (topclack) did a stream where he built a prototype version of the HB85.
The indicator LEDs are through hole (if I remember correctly he put some 3mm LEDs in there in the stream).

The IC thread has a pic of the PCB (last one in the first post): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97216.0

This is a pic of the prototype PCB.
The final version is different from that one (it will also be black instead of green)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: tchalikias on Wed, 02 January 2019, 14:09:53
Ah, that new board anticipation! :D

Quick question - the 3 leds on the top right, what kind of leds does the board support? Surface mounted or through hole? I can't tell from the photo.

quakemz (topclack) did a stream where he built a prototype version of the HB85.
The indicator LEDs are through hole (if I remember correctly he put some 3mm LEDs in there in the stream).

The IC thread has a pic of the PCB (last one in the first post): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97216.0

This is a pic of the prototype PCB.
The final version is different from that one (it will also be black instead of green)

Thanks! I zoomed in on one of the proto photos and indeed it looks like all three are through-hole leds.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: Vermilionone on Fri, 04 January 2019, 14:55:36
Were there any extras made? I've developed an appreciation for the silver mid piece and I would like to buy one. I'm betting that's not going to happen though.

Besides that, any ETA on shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(anodic oxidation70%)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 05 January 2019, 23:12:39
Potter is so productive
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Sat, 12 January 2019, 14:22:39
I see status has updated to 'all sent to ZF', does that mean that shipping is imminent??
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 13 January 2019, 01:17:26
I see status has updated to 'all sent to ZF', does that mean that shipping is imminent??

Guess now it depends on how fast zf ships out.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Sun, 13 January 2019, 10:27:32
Does anyone have one theyíd like to sell/trade? I know they havenít made it to users yet, would love to purchase from someone though.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 13 January 2019, 16:50:20
Cant wait to get this board, glad i picked up a pile of extra parts too to play with.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Tue, 15 January 2019, 07:26:50
Just posting again that I would love to buy one of these off if someone. Let me know if you want to give yours up. I see they are shipping soon. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: elmo on Tue, 15 January 2019, 07:59:43
Just posting again that I would love to buy one of these off if someone. Let me know if you want to give yours up. I see they are shipping soon. Thanks.

Wait until the first participants got their boards and then ask on mechmarket or in the appropriate board here.
This thread is not the right place and now is not the right time for this.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: elmo on Sat, 19 January 2019, 06:19:50
Just got the mail that my board is ready to ship!

Shipping with the box will be pretty expensive but it is definitely worth it. The box looks super nice.
They also offered to ship it without the box to save on the shipping (about 30% less).

Definitely stoked to get this thing in my hands  :D
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:13:50
Getting mine sent in the box, i feel good packaging is part of the fun, very excited now and look forward to more GB from Gray Studio.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:09:51
Getting mine sent in the box, i feel good packaging is part of the fun, very excited now and look forward to more GB from Gray Studio.

Designers now need to up their games! Custom wooden boxes, custom carrying cases :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:42:09
the extra cost is a bad surprise but it makes sense since this board is so big even if its not that heavy--even without the box.   though i think the case for the COD67 was nicer looking?  will wait and see .
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:13:10
Someone please shoot me a PM if you receive yours and want to sell/trade it.
Thanks a lot and hope you all enjoy your boards.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 21 January 2019, 02:59:36
I just paid for shipping without the box (62 USD). I considered the box but to be honest, while it looks cool, I think it also increases the possibility of customs charging extra during import...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Mon, 21 January 2019, 06:23:17
I just paid for shipping without the box (62 USD). I considered the box but to be honest, while it looks cool, I think it also increases the possibility of customs charging extra during import...

Did zf mention when it would ship? Before CNY?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 21 January 2019, 10:57:42
On the first email regarding shipping invoices, they mentioned shipping next week.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:15:23
And mine has shipped!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Wed, 23 January 2019, 05:25:36
Congrats to everyone whose board has shipped. For my sake, I hope you don't like it though and want to sell/trade it to me  :)
Please PM me if you have one that you no longer want.
Have a great day and enjoy.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 23 January 2019, 06:33:50
Very curious to see how these turn out! Such a unique keyboard, can't wait for build pictures :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 23 January 2019, 23:13:43
I am actually liking the design. Daring and something new. Good luck for the gb!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Liked the design too. Not a super fan of 85 layout but this is definitely something unique
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:22:56
Mine has arrived! ill post pictures soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ajkhg6/stealth_boiz/ quick sot of mine with the carbon fiber plate and black insert i also have a silver insert and black plate so i should be able to mix it up a bit. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: elmo on Fri, 25 January 2019, 04:15:40
Mine has arrived! ill post pictures soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ajkhg6/stealth_boiz/ quick sot of mine with the carbon fiber plate and black insert i also have a silver insert and black plate so i should be able to mix it up a bit.

wow. that black with carbon fiber backplate looks slick :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Fri, 25 January 2019, 10:22:45
i got one in gray/silver.  i wouldve liked a little more contrast in the color (it's a little bit more in real life), but it's definately cool looking. 
https://imgur.com/BuoIuvf

the gherkin in the background is for scale :)

unfortunately i don't have a keyset for this, was thinking of putting SA symbiosis on it and thats not until august...so need to find something in the meantime. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: elmo on Sat, 26 January 2019, 06:50:50
I got mine today and already built it (I just couldn't wait).
It looks amazing and feels awesome to type on.
Has Zilent v2 78g switches and the new version of Maxkey's SA Lime on it  :D

(https://i.redd.it/qtd7onabjrc21.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Sat, 26 January 2019, 12:07:42
Looks awesome man. Props!!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 26 January 2019, 13:22:09
That's lovely!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 26 January 2019, 15:28:03
Join Gray discord to discuss and shape Potterís next project :)

https://discord.gg/s99eys2
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:49:31
I received mine today. Such a beautiful board - and the presentation, even without the wooden box, was superb. Built with MX Blues and white through hole leds, I haven't decided on caps yet.

(https://i.imgur.com/MrstV60.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pStWrbZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QJiZQQM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ng48bac.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oBSPhc0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 31 January 2019, 15:10:51
I received mine today. Such a beautiful board - and the presentation, even without the wooden box, was superb. Built with MX Blues and white through hole leds, I haven't decided on caps yet.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MrstV60.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pStWrbZ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QJiZQQM.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ng48bac.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oBSPhc0.jpg)


Looking realllly good
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Thu, 31 January 2019, 20:43:57
Looks great!!! Wish I could get one :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Fri, 01 February 2019, 11:16:39
Question for those that have the board - I noticed in Bootmapper that its running ps2avrgb firmware 1.3.2, latest available build is 1.4.0, is there any reason not to flash the latest firmware?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Fri, 01 February 2019, 12:14:09
where can you see the firmware version?   the only thing i can see is on the righthand side, mine says keymap ver: 140513

where did you find the firmware?  whats the date?

edit: nvm, i see now you can get to it from the options tab, mine is 1.2.3 so old as well...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Sat, 02 February 2019, 05:07:11
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 February 2019, 13:29:18
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

Nice! Hopefully more ps2avrU support in qmk
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Sat, 02 February 2019, 16:21:25
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

yeah i think thats the latest one i found too.  but i have not flashed with it yet.   i've been investigating whether this will work with QMK and i think its doable, i'm still coding it so we'll see if i can get it working with QMK in the end.  i think bootmapper is fine, but i'm not happy that its so old and that winkeyless are closed now.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Sun, 03 February 2019, 13:08:00
Is it possible for someone with the board to post the hex and or the json file for the stt layout?
I was able to acquire a board but when using tweezers it appears some keys arenít where Iíd expect them to be.
Iíve never used bootmapper so Iím just wondering how to proceed without destroying the pcb. Haha. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Sun, 03 February 2019, 13:47:11
good job getting one!  i noticed on mine that the key assignments were not quite right either.  how close is your keymap now?  screenshot of bootmapper?   

the trick with this PCB is that the matrix is not in order, it starts in the middle of the keyboard and wraps around for each (physical) row, so the easiest way to reassign is to find a known key on your map and then count forward or backwards and re-assign the key. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 04 February 2019, 09:15:32
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

yeah i think thats the latest one i found too.  but i have not flashed with it yet.   i've been investigating whether this will work with QMK and i think its doable, i'm still coding it so we'll see if i can get it working with QMK in the end.  i think bootmapper is fine, but i'm not happy that its so old and that winkeyless are closed now.

i flashed it just now, everything seems to be working fine, no side-effects that I could detect so far...
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 04 February 2019, 09:16:35
good job getting one!  i noticed on mine that the key assignments were not quite right either.  how close is your keymap now?  screenshot of bootmapper?   

the trick with this PCB is that the matrix is not in order, it starts in the middle of the keyboard and wraps around for each (physical) row, so the easiest way to reassign is to find a known key on your map and then count forward or backwards and re-assign the key.

Yeah mine were also all over the place, especially the modifier row, I have a proper hex file if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 04 February 2019, 14:33:12
With SP G20 Semiotics:

(https://i.imgur.com/CkBmw2z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EaUjcGK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/T3BYA7v.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 February 2019, 21:21:14
With SP G20 Semiotics:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CkBmw2z.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/EaUjcGK.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/T3BYA7v.jpg)


This set is amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: sleepybrett on Mon, 04 February 2019, 22:06:13
I love this set, but man is g20 UNCOMFORTABLE.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Mon, 04 February 2019, 23:58:29
I love this set, but man is g20 UNCOMFORTABLE.

It's not the most comfortable typing experience, that's true. I'll have to do some more typing with it to decide if I'm keeping it on this board or not. I've also got Nuclear Data coming in the mail, so perhaps I'll switch to that.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 05 February 2019, 22:40:39
Interested if anyone is considering selling, please PM me. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: DoCallMeKing on Wed, 06 February 2019, 06:33:37
Just finished pic. Will take a better glamour shot at another time.
Awesome board.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Wed, 06 February 2019, 12:54:25
Beautiful!

Seeing the various other color combinations, I wish there was a way to buy more parts to play around with.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 06 February 2019, 13:06:24
still want to see something like this in a 60% :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Sat, 09 February 2019, 09:01:49
If anyone has an ASTT they're interested in selling, shoot me a PM. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: tchalikias on Sat, 09 February 2019, 21:47:53
The board with SA Nuclear Data:

(https://i.imgur.com/wa2yWV5.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Aox on Sun, 10 February 2019, 10:08:10
Anyone else still waiting on shipping invoice?  I ordered a red/black, and haven't heard anything yet. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 February 2019, 13:06:22
The board with SA Nuclear Data:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wa2yWV5.jpg)


And two pads? haha
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 10 February 2019, 13:17:32
The board with SA Nuclear Data:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wa2yWV5.jpg)


Dear lord that's beautiful.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 20 February 2019, 15:23:27
Has anyone done the work to port this to QMK?

I'm going to start working on one, but I figured I should check here first.

Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Thu, 21 February 2019, 18:53:29
yes, i've got a PCB loaded and a map working thru QMK, RGB strip works, i have not done the LEDs yet.  its in my private repo because i want to check with potter if this is something he wants out there.  i wrote it just for personal use at the moment. 

if you want to get it going i can give you the PIN OUTS and and the matrix definitions.  PM me here and we can hash it out over discord.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 23 February 2019, 15:14:46
Here's my new build, I wanted to keep it simple and let the case speak for itself without excessive distraction.

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 23 February 2019, 19:31:19
Also, here is a typing test if anyone is interested. Tealios v2 lubed with 3204, with spring swap (Sprit v1.2 progressive 72g).

Zeal clear stabs lubed with super lube and bandaid mod (in hindsight I probably wouldn't bandaid mod these again as it muffles the shorter stabbed keys, like Backspace, more than I'd like).

GMK WoB keycaps. Multiple layers of shelf liner inside. Typing test directly on a mahogany desk, with the rubber feet installed.




Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 01:21:28
Hey folks,

Bit of a conundrum here, hoping you can help me troubleshoot this one.

Tested the PCB, all working. Soldered and the RGB LEDs come on just fine. After a while, the RGB LEDs turn off, though the keyboard is still working and PC still on.

Unplug and plug it back in, and only the first RGB LED comes on. The first led remains bright white despite any RGB settings. Checking it out and comparing against my spare PCB, I can confirm that it isn't working properly (spare is working fine). The solder job is clean, so I was surprised the LEDs didn't power on.

My question is whether this is likely a trace issue, processor issue, or a faulty LED.
Given that nothing I do with the RGB settings affects the display of the LEDs, I am inclined to think that the control signal isn't arriving at the LEDs.

Anyone have any insight?

Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 08:45:20
also possible that one of the LEDs are burned out.  typically these RGB LEDS are in a chain and if 1 goes out the rest in the line will go out.  i'm not 100% sure how the signal passes down the chain, but my first step would be to take a multimeter and see if the signal or voltage stops at some point in the chain.   go LED by LED and see if you get a signal and then see if it drops out.

someone else on discord mentioned that they burned out their LEDs by static, so they are quite sensitive.    i just soldered 24 of these for another board over the weekend, and even being super careful i burned out 3-4 of them so they are not very tough to heat or static....
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 11:41:07
also possible that one of the LEDs are burned out.  typically these RGB LEDS are in a chain and if 1 goes out the rest in the line will go out.  i'm not 100% sure how the signal passes down the chain, but my first step would be to take a multimeter and see if the signal or voltage stops at some point in the chain.   go LED by LED and see if you get a signal and then see if it drops out.

someone else on discord mentioned that they burned out their LEDs by static, so they are quite sensitive.    i just soldered 24 of these for another board over the weekend, and even being super careful i burned out 3-4 of them so they are not very tough to heat or static....

Thanks for the idea - I will definitely stick a meter on them and see what I get out of it. I have a string of LEDs that I can plug into the VOG terminals and test that way as well.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 14:02:59
I started to address the LED issue I am having this morning, and am relatively confident that I've proven the issue to be control signal. That said, I'm hoping you might see if you can see a flaw in my testing.

First off, I tested the continuity and voltage across each of the LEDs. It appears as though the first LED DI-DO has somewhere in the neighborhood of .7-.9v, fluctuating. Every LED down stream from it has no voltage across DI-DO. VCC is coming in at 5v for all of them.

Secondarily, I have a spare string of WS2812b LEDs that I temporarily landed on the PCB to confirm.
I landed the voltage / ground on the V/G and landed the DIN to the DIN pad on the first LED. No luck. Wiring it up the same way to my spare PCB resulted in RGB.

It leads me to believe that the issue is control signal, but perhaps it is the first LED? Considering desoldering and just using the spare PCB, but I'd really prefer to fix this PCB.

Cheers!

Edit: Opted for a desolder and just started using my second PCB so I can enjoy this board while i troubleshoot the RGB on my new backup PCB. Thanks all for the help.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 25 February 2019, 14:38:04
Has anyone got a space HB85 PCB they'd be willing to part with? PM me if so, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 27 February 2019, 13:21:03
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

Flashed mine to 1.4.0 and it appears to be working just fine. For what its worth.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Aox on Thu, 28 February 2019, 09:11:44
I'm still waiting for ZF to figure out my damn order...  This sucks.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 March 2019, 16:24:17
Also, here is a typing test if anyone is interested. Tealios v2 lubed with 3204, with spring swap (Sprit v1.2 progressive 72g).

Zeal clear stabs lubed with super lube and bandaid mod (in hindsight I probably wouldn't bandaid mod these again as it muffles the shorter stabbed keys, like Backspace, more than I'd like).

GMK WoB keycaps. Multiple layers of shelf liner inside. Typing test directly on a mahogany desk, with the rubber feet installed.


Nice!!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Aox on Tue, 05 March 2019, 19:26:34
Paypal dispute opened with ZFrontier.  Still haven't received shipping invoice or my board. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 20:18:46
Paypal dispute opened with ZFrontier.  Still haven't received shipping invoice or my board.

It's crazy Zfrontier has not got back to you. Potter told me he has asked ZF about whether there is anything he needs to be aware of and received no reply.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 06 March 2019, 01:06:42
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

One day, they really need to make this a lot easier on us - - -

Which firmware is it? There's a bunch in the folders.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 06 March 2019, 01:07:22
good job getting one!  i noticed on mine that the key assignments were not quite right either.  how close is your keymap now?  screenshot of bootmapper?   

the trick with this PCB is that the matrix is not in order, it starts in the middle of the keyboard and wraps around for each (physical) row, so the easiest way to reassign is to find a known key on your map and then count forward or backwards and re-assign the key.

Yeah mine were also all over the place, especially the modifier row, I have a proper hex file if anyone wants it.

Yes please post it.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 01:29:23
The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

One day, they really need to make this a lot easier on us - - -

Which firmware is it? There's a bunch in the folders.

The latest build I've found, from October 2017 (version 1.4.0) is here:

https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)

I've already flashed this to my Taobao VE.A. clone and it actually solved a random led flicker issue with the board. I'm tempted to flash it to the HB85...

One day, they really need to make this a lot easier on us - - -

Which firmware is it? There's a bunch in the folders.

We have started to transition to qmk and I will be providing instructions on flashing firmware for future gray qmk boards.

Also get in the discord for peer support :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 06 March 2019, 02:45:44
Hey oldcat! thanks. will hop onto discord for those developments but in the meantime, does anyone know which fw to flash until that is all sorted out?  or is the answer likely in the discord scroll?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:58:21
so there are a few of us on discord doing unofficial support for this kit.  did your PCB not come with a firmware?  i used the firmware from here, https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0

it also has to bootmapper gui to configure your keys. 

QMK does not run natively on this board, though some of us have modified it to work (by using ps2avrgb inside of QMK), but its not publicly shared atm.    not sure if this particular board will ever get QMK natively, i think oldcat is talking about boards moving forward, like if there is a R2 of HB85 then it could be QMK native support. 
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 06 March 2019, 11:50:54
I'm actually loaning out my HB85 this weekend to mechmerlin to port to QMK - which he has very kindly offered to do - so that might be helpful to folks!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 11:51:21
I'm actually loaning out my HB85 this weekend to mechmerlin to port to QMK, so that might be helpful to folks!

Wow, really nice of you and merlin!
Amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mxgian99 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 12:54:24
I'm actually loaning out my HB85 this weekend to mechmerlin to port to QMK - which he has very kindly offered to do - so that might be helpful to folks!

you shouldve asked me, i already have it working, but good to see how merlin would do it differently.  if he wants to save time i already have the pinout defined :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 13:36:59
I'm actually loaning out my HB85 this weekend to mechmerlin to port to QMK - which he has very kindly offered to do - so that might be helpful to folks!

you shouldve asked me, i already have it working, but good to see how merlin would do it differently.  if he wants to save time i already have the pinout defined :)

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Aox on Thu, 07 March 2019, 18:36:22
Potter is helping me out with my HB85 issues.  No response from ZFrontier on the paypal dispute, going to get my money back and maybe have Potter help me acquire one from a different route.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 09 March 2019, 01:25:19
Potter is helping me out with my HB85 issues.  No response from ZFrontier on the paypal dispute, going to get my money back and maybe have Potter help me acquire one from a different route.

Hope your issue gets resolved soon.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 20:41:03
odd question what are the GOV holes for? also would be interested in getting this board over to qmk as i have never touched bootmapper
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 March 2019, 22:07:33
odd question what are the GOV holes for? also would be interested in getting this board over to qmk as i have never touched bootmapper

Can test the power, and can also use them to connect to other light sources
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 March 2019, 22:09:12
odd question what are the GOV holes for? also would be interested in getting this board over to qmk as i have never touched bootmapper

Was just informed Mechmerlin is porting HB85 to QMK right now.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Neodeus on Tue, 12 March 2019, 23:55:17
I am kicking myself for missing this one... I really love the look of this board. Think it will ever get run again?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Tue, 19 March 2019, 12:51:47
Found this repo on the QMK firmware today.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 March 2019, 16:55:27
Found this repo on the QMK firmware today.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85

Is anything pushed to the QMK firmware site?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 10:45:23
Found this repo on the QMK firmware today.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85

Is anything pushed to the QMK firmware site?

Not sure what you mean - I believe that it the main QMK repo, so it stands to reason it's testing and working. I will try it later with my spare pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 March 2019, 12:52:45
Found this repo on the QMK firmware today.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85

Is anything pushed to the QMK firmware site?

Not sure what you mean - I believe that it the main QMK repo, so it stands to reason it's testing and working. I will try it later with my spare pcb.

Ah, sorry I didn't realize it's in the master branch.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 20 March 2019, 13:12:32
Perhaps this is what mechmerlin kindly did when he used my board to port it over to qmk? I've been travelling so didn't get a chance to watch his stream.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 14:03:25
Perhaps this is what mechmerlin kindly did when he used my board to port it over to qmk? I've been travelling so didn't get a chance to watch his stream.

Looking at the log, it was originally published by someone else, but mechmerlin refactored it this morning. Looks a lot cleaner than it did yesterday.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/commit/995b31a565e88b29e1f6a4493e7ab8b3d7951f99
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 14:10:01
@oldcat @rooski, mrpetrov was kind enough to lend me this board while I did some work on it. The new changes were done on the recent episodes of https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin

The original contributor is fcoury (misterkeebs on youtube) the guy who ported the Alice over.

The changes merged into master today include
1. QMK Configurator support
2. Support for the 3 layouts mentioned in the GB (stt, basic, aop), and a fourth that contains all possible positions (stt+basic+aop combined).
3. Readme reorgnization which tells how to get this board flashed and working with qmk (You need to eeprom reset it).

You can try out the QMK configurator here: https://config.qmk.fm/#/gray_studio/hb85/LAYOUT_all
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 14:16:21
Thanks Merlin !! The new instructions are super helpful.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 22:04:05
Okay. So I followed merlin's instructions to the T mentioned here https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85 and flashed the AOP layout for my board perfectly. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the guide and the port. I can confirm that it works.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 March 2019, 23:30:48
Okay. So I followed merlin's instructions to the T mentioned here https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/gray_studio/hb85 and flashed the AOP layout for my board perfectly. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the guide and the port. I can confirm that it works.

Nice!
Love the QMK community!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Thu, 21 March 2019, 12:30:33
@oldcat @rooski, mrpetrov was kind enough to lend me this board while I did some work on it. The new changes were done on the recent episodes of https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin

The original contributor is fcoury (misterkeebs on youtube) the guy who ported the Alice over.

The changes merged into master today include
1. QMK Configurator support
2. Support for the 3 layouts mentioned in the GB (stt, basic, aop), and a fourth that contains all possible positions (stt+basic+aop combined).
3. Readme reorgnization which tells how to get this board flashed and working with qmk (You need to eeprom reset it).

You can try out the QMK configurator here: https://config.qmk.fm/#/gray_studio/hb85/LAYOUT_all

Thanks Merlin!

Can confirm that it's working on my stt layout.
I have, however, noticed that occasionally when toggling the RGB, it will turn off and not turn back on. Sometimes if I wait a while it will respond, other times I have to EEP-RST to get it to come back.

Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: greygoo on Thu, 11 April 2019, 08:10:05
AIRPOTTER!! YOU SENT ME THIS DEFECTED KEYBOARD!! AND YOU PROMISED ME TO SEND ME REPLACEMENT AFTER THE HOLIDAY!! BUT YOU EVEN IGNORE MY MESSAGE AND EMAIL!! PLEASE ANSWER IT ASAP!!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: aszyd on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:34:21
Dare I ask if there are any extras? I need this in my life.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Sat, 13 April 2019, 00:56:10
Dare I ask if there are any extras? I need this in my life.

Gotta hunt the aftermarket.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:19:31
AIRPOTTER!! YOU SENT ME THIS DEFECTED KEYBOARD!! AND YOU PROMISED ME TO SEND ME REPLACEMENT AFTER THE HOLIDAY!! BUT YOU EVEN IGNORE MY MESSAGE AND EMAIL!! PLEASE ANSWER IT ASAP!!

Hello brother, please work with zfrontier on customer service issues as this GB was not handled directly by him but through Zfrontier so he does not have customer or order information. As far as I know Potter has not heard from Zfrontier yet and they have not paid his money in full either.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: mrpetrov on Thu, 18 April 2019, 10:33:55
Airpotter/oldcat - any chance of releasing the plate files please for the HB85 - I would like to see if there is interest in organizing an FR4 plate for it. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: rooski15 on Sun, 21 April 2019, 10:17:02
Airpotter/oldcat - any chance of releasing the plate files please for the HB85 - I would like to see if there is interest in organizing an FR4 plate for it. Thanks!

Seconded. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 April 2019, 11:39:05
Airpotter/oldcat - any chance of releasing the plate files please for the HB85 - I would like to see if there is interest in organizing an FR4 plate for it. Thanks!

Seconded. :)

I will talk to Potter and see if he can share with ya'all :)
He is tied up in the flooding situation trying to complete Space65 on time.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 28 April 2019, 22:34:52
i have a weird problem, i tested my pcbs and they were fine, so i built one, tested it again and now it seems borked. if i test it in keyboard tester it wont work properly on the num pad there al scrambled like arrow keys and stuff, but if i go into bootmapper and download the layout its fine and tests fine, tried to type on the internet or anything and its borked and not typing proper all the numbers are arrow keys and no matter how i reflash it its the same., any idea what the issue could be.

do i need to put the pcb in boot mode? if so how do i? i dont see a reset switch?
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 28 April 2019, 22:53:21
i have a weird problem, i tested my pcbs and they were fine, so i built one, tested it again and now it seems borked. if i test it in keyboard tester it wont work properly on the num pad there al scrambled like arrow keys and stuff, but if i go into bootmapper and download the layout its fine and tests fine, tried to type on the internet or anything and its borked and not typing proper all the numbers are arrow keys and no matter how i reflash it its the same., any idea what the issue could be.

do i need to put the pcb in boot mode? if so how do i? i dont see a reset switch?
It's on QMK now. Some of the PCBs have key mappings all over the place. Flash it using QMK. Putting it into reset mode and all related instructions are on there.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:17:16
well this has turned into a nightmare, cant figure out qmk tbh bootmapper is so much easier, i still dont know how to put the board into reset mode and havent been able to flash it, everything is still borked.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:18:14
well this has turned into a nightmare, cant figure out qmk tbh bootmapper is so much easier, i still dont know how to put the board into reset mode and havent been able to flash it, everything is still borked.
Reset mode is keeping F3 pressed while inserting the USB cable IIRC.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:36:50
idk what happened but everything works now, but whenever i tried to flash a hex it said no device available but it seems to have flashed it? im confused.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Capsy on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:39:52
still nothing, goes into reset, open qmk config and cant flash my hex, or any hex i make. says no device connected getting tired of ****ing with this thing

HB85 is not flashable using usual QMK methods. Here are the instruction on the QMK repository for this board:

ps2avr(GB) boards use an atmega32a microcontroller and a different bootloader. It is not flashable using the regular QMK methods.

**Reset Key:** Hold down the key located at `K00`, commonly programmed as F3 while plugging in the keyboard.

Windows:
1. Download [HIDBootFlash](http://vusb.wikidot.com/project:hidbootflash).
2. Place your keyboard into reset.
3. Press the `Find Device` button and ensure that your keyboard is found.
4. Press the `Open .hex File` button and locate the `.hex` file you created.
5. Press the `Flash Device` button and wait for the process to complete.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:41:27
still nothing, goes into reset, open qmk config and cant flash my hex, or any hex i make. says no device connected getting tired of ****ing with this thing

HB85 is not flashable using usual QMK methods. Here are the instruction on the QMK repository for this board:

ps2avr(GB) boards use an atmega32a microcontroller and a different bootloader. It is not flashable using the regular QMK methods.

**Reset Key:** Hold down the key located at `K00`, commonly programmed as F3 while plugging in the keyboard.

Windows:
1. Download [HIDBootFlash](http://vusb.wikidot.com/project:hidbootflash).
2. Place your keyboard into reset.
3. Press the `Find Device` button and ensure that your keyboard is found.
4. Press the `Open .hex File` button and locate the `.hex` file you created.
5. Press the `Flash Device` button and wait for the process to complete.

makes sense why it wasnt working then, but now it is idk. THank you for the help, ill try again this way and see if i can do a different lay out.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:56:32
still nothing, goes into reset, open qmk config and cant flash my hex, or any hex i make. says no device connected getting tired of ****ing with this thing

HB85 is not flashable using usual QMK methods. Here are the instruction on the QMK repository for this board:

ps2avr(GB) boards use an atmega32a microcontroller and a different bootloader. It is not flashable using the regular QMK methods.

**Reset Key:** Hold down the key located at `K00`, commonly programmed as F3 while plugging in the keyboard.

Windows:
1. Download [HIDBootFlash](http://vusb.wikidot.com/project:hidbootflash).
2. Place your keyboard into reset.
3. Press the `Find Device` button and ensure that your keyboard is found.
4. Press the `Open .hex File` button and locate the `.hex` file you created.
5. Press the `Flash Device` button and wait for the process to complete.

makes sense why it wasnt working then, but now it is idk. THank you for the help, ill try again this way and see if i can do a different lay out.

Glad it worked, the challenge with bootmapper client is that the developer no longer supports it, so QMK is really the best now.
Title: Re: [GB] GRAY STUDIO- HB85(all send to zf)
Post by: Calvin_G on Fri, 27 September 2019, 05:57:41
Hi there,

I just use HID to change the layout to stt. But I lost all my leds.. How do I get them back? No response when I plug in using Bootmapper...

Thanks guys.

Updates. Tried use QMK flashing again. It worked. But still no LEDs. Do I need to set up LEDs in QMK? How to set up those... Even the caplock, number status light were off too....