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Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 10:35:08
(https://i.imgur.com/b3B95Mj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/izAq5o8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eOSbrVI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x6f6rIH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2SwkIqH.jpg)

IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98689.0


Leaf 60 - 60% custom keyboard kit

Information:


(https://i.imgur.com/8FNuseW.png)

Plate mounting: sandwich mount with gaskets



Colors

For regular kits:

* Electrophoretic coating (e-coating) is technically similar to powder coating but way smoother, even smoother than most anodizing.

Color samples: Clear PC, Opaque black PC, purple, E-white (https://i.imgur.com/2SwkIqH.jpg), Yellow (https://i.imgur.com/oLilidy.jpg), E-black (https://i.imgur.com/phTC49A.jpg), E-red (https://i.imgur.com/6rIwjnM.jpg)

For full brass PVD version: silver, gold, rose gold (https://imgur.com/oRAhZdr). A photo  (https://imgur.com/8SWNMsr)of one full brass Orange 75 for your reference.



PCB and Plate

PCB layout:
More
For MX/ALPS compatible PCB:
(https://i.imgur.com/TGPBbbh.jpg)

For MX hotswap PCB:
(https://i.imgur.com/4710nQ9.jpg)

Plate layout:
More
Universal plate:
(https://i.imgur.com/K46gwfi.jpg)

WKL plate:
(https://i.imgur.com/T1VZ5Nd.jpg)

HHKB plate:
(https://i.imgur.com/mUiC2gc.jpg)

ALPS plate:
(https://i.imgur.com/XqPIyKT.jpg)



Placing an Order



Timeline:



Terms

We'll do our best to do QC but we cannot guarantee every board is 100% perfect.
If there are blemishes, depending on the condition of the boards, possible solutions include replacement, return item chargeback, and partial refunds.



Update:

As so many people asked, dedicated WKL plate can be available, but only in black/clear PC.
You can write a note in the last question in the order form and tell me to replace the PC layout to dedicated WKL.

The current "WKL" plate is meant to be used for the hotswap PCB.
The universal plate is a must-have.
The dedicated HHKB plate is requested in the IC.
The ALPS plate is also a must-have.
There's no one that I want to delete, so I make compromise and provide 5th option in PC material only.

I can not provide any more options guys LOL



Update on 01/23:

stop accepting orders.
Deadline for payment is 01/25 everywhere in the world.




QMK Configurator:


Big thanks for MechMerlin (https://github.com/mechmerlin)'s help!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:04:07
Pmed

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:11:01
pming
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:13:24
Pm'd for brass kit, but also getting a polycarbonate kit for sure. Great looking board.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:13:44
Just submitted an order. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Coolbeanz on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:14:37
May I ask what's the differences between E-white and MAO white?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:15:16
Will RGB leds be installed on the back of the PCBs?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:16:39
Ordered!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:17:26
Ordered a PC HHKB w/ brass plate & weight. Does the PCB have any special features other than center port?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:18:43
May I ask what's the differences between E-white and MAO white?

E-white is pure white. Mao white is greyish white.
E-white is smoother than MAO white.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:21:20
Will RGB leds be installed on the back of the PCBs?

There are no built-in RGB LEDs on the PCB. The main reason is the high failure rate of the RGB LEDs. They are wired in series. One LED has a bad soldering point then all the rest won't work.
The PCB will have soldering pads for LED strips. They are flexible to attach and easy to drive with QMK.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:23:26
In for PC HHKB w/ brass plate & weight. Does the PCB have any special features other than center port?


One is hotswappable. Another supports ALPS and MX. Otherwise, they're nothing special.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:25:31
Will RGB leds be installed on the back of the PCBs?

There are no built-in RGB LEDs on the PCB. The main reason is the high failure rate of the RGB LEDs. They are wired in series. One LED has a bad soldering point then all the rest won't work.
The PCB will have soldering pads for LED strips. They are flexible to attach and easy to drive with QMK.

Great to know they have the pads available, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:28:22
E-White and E-Red are matte, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:29:52
Don't remember if it was mentioned in IC, but what's PCB color?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Delirious on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:30:50
As an owner of a few Fox boards, I could really tell the improvements in each and subsequent work. Best of luck to your new group buy
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:39:38
Im coming back Senter ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:39:55
Does this close on the 23rd of January?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: temp0321 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:44:52
What is the total weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: blizzara01 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:46:28
May we know who will do the shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:48:16
Definitely in for this, always 100% positive experiences with Fox Labs' group buys!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mdlt97 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:55:27
i wish the wkl plate wasnt split bs only

as you have to get a universal plate for normal bs which isnt ideal
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mog_genius88 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 20:58:19
I want to order three but will I have to pay 3 different shipping prices?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:00:37
Don't remember if it was mentioned in IC, but what's PCB color?

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I believe he said black during IC.  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98689.msg2703695#msg2703695
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:02:02
How soft is the gasket? Does it add significant flex, or is it purely for vibration/sound dampening?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:02:38
Please tell that you got the wrong img for that WKL plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:03:31
Is it possible to have more photos of black polycarb?

Edit: Also, could you add an option for ordering extra weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Mavarina on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:03:51
pm'ed for brass kit  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Coolbeanz on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:08:13
Please tell that you got the wrong img for that WKL plate.

i wish the wkl plate wasnt split bs only

as you have to get a universal plate for normal bs which isnt ideal

I was wondering this too :( pls have normal bs for WKL plate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mdlt97 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:13:18
like im 100% in for a black pc if wkl allows normal bs

but that is a deal breaker
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:14:44
Can we at least get stepped caps lock for the WKL plate? :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:18:43
Is the wkl plate really default split backspace? If I want wkl with full backspace, do I need to get the universal plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:20:25
I didn't even notice that... Yeah... Need stepped caps and full backspace for wkl.
Can we at least get stepped caps lock for the WKL plate? :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: The Raygin Asian on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:25:07
Ordered!!! Quick question with regards to PVD brass finish cost. Is it $12 per brass item?
May we know who will do the shipping?
Also curious about shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:31:44
Iíd really love to have stepped caps and full backspace on WKL too. The universal plate just looks too funky
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:36:25
Here we go!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:37:59
Are changes allowed after submitted order? I want to go ahead and place my order
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: fireworm on Wed, 16 January 2019, 21:48:36
Are changes allowed after submitted order? I want to go ahead and place my order
You get two pms to him from reading the op.

I'm super excited for the alps support. Finally a nice case for alps!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:18:36
E-White and E-Red are matte, right?

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:18:54
Don't remember if it was mentioned in IC, but what's PCB color?

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It's matte black
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:19:02
i want one but man i cant PS loving my Leaf80
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:19:22
As an owner of a few Fox boards, I could really tell the improvements in each and subsequent work. Best of luck to your new group buy

Thanks, Delirious
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:20:06
Does this close on the 23rd of January?

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mikenogo on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:20:24
Pm'd for all brass!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Sent on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:20:29
I wouldn't mind some more photos of the black polycarb if possible. :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:21:34
What is the total weight?

Haven't measure it yet as there are too many options (e.g. PC, alu, brass). I'll update some info in OP when I get time.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:24:35
May we know who will do the shipping?

As we're not running the GB through zFrontier (due to the CNY holiday), we'll do the shipping directly. We'll work with a DHL proxy.
The good thing is, the shipping will be much faster. zFrontier second time QC normally take one week or more.
The bad thing is, we don't have the second time QC this time. We'll do the QC more carefully tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:27:43
i wish the wkl plate wasnt split bs only

as you have to get a universal plate for normal bs which isnt ideal

The WKL plate is meant to be used with the hotswap PCB.
Yes, it's not ideal. However, it's not possible to make it ideal for every possible layout.
There are 4 types of plates, 2 types of PCB, 3 types of top case layout. That's best we can do.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:28:45
I want to order three but will I have to pay 3 different shipping prices?

The shipping fee mainly depends on the weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: metalliccharles on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:30:19
In for a PC kit, with some questions in the extra details.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:31:37
How soft is the gasket? Does it add significant flex, or is it purely for vibration/sound dampening?

The gaskets are pretty soft, but they are only 1.5mm thin on both sides of the plate. I'd say it's mainly for sound dampening.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:34:44
Is it possible to have more photos of black polycarb?

Edit: Also, could you add an option for ordering extra weight?

Here you go https://imgur.com/a/dzHCKBy

You can write a note in the last question in the form. I thought no one wants extra weights.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:37:08
Do you have a sample of Mao white? That's kind of a surprise finish.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:38:55
Do you have a sample of Mao white? That's kind of a surprise finish.

/u/Peppermint216 posted his MAO Leaf 80 several days ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ocnis on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:39:54
+1

Iíd really love to have stepped caps and full backspace on WKL too. The universal plate just looks too funky

I didn't even notice that... Yeah... Need stepped caps and full backspace for wkl.
Can we at least get stepped caps lock for the WKL plate? :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:44:12
i wish the wkl plate wasnt split bs only

as you have to get a universal plate for normal bs which isnt ideal

The WKL plate is meant to be used with the hotswap PCB.
Yes, it's not ideal. However, it's not possible to make it ideal for every possible layout.
There are 4 types of plates, 2 types of PCB, 3 types of top case layout. That's best we can do.
I don't think that adding a standard BS and stepped caps option would ruin the plate for the hotswap pcb, i've tested before and it works just fine.
Also, the Tokyo 60 has a stepped cutout
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:47:36
As so many people asked, dedicated WKL plate can be available, but only in black/clear PC.
You can write a note in the last question in the order form and tell me to replace the PC layout to dedicated WKL.

The current "WKL" plate is meant to be used for the hotswap PCB.
The universal plate is a must-have.
The dedicated HHKB plate is requested in the IC.
The ALPS plate is also a must-have.

I can not provide any more options guys LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Sent on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:49:27
Here you go https://imgur.com/a/dzHCKBy

You can write a note in the last question in the form. I thought no one wants extra weights.

Thanks for the extra pics. :thumb:  Thought black PC could be a bit transparent but nope.  Definitely opaque. :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:54:13
You don't have to provide more options... Just the right ones
As so many people asked, dedicated WKL plate can be available, but only in black/clear PC.
You can write a note in the last question in the order form and tell me to replace the PC layout to dedicated WKL.

The current "WKL" plate is meant to be used for the hotswap PCB.
The universal plate is a must-have.
The dedicated HHKB plate is requested in the IC.
The ALPS plate is also a must-have.

I can not provide any more options guys LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Wed, 16 January 2019, 23:16:23
Hey senter, how heavy does the standard kit weigh when assembled? Tried searching both threads but couldn't find an answer.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ian13 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 23:17:32
May we know who will do the shipping?

As we're not running the GB through zFrontier (due to the CNY holiday), we'll do the shipping directly. We'll work with a DHL proxy.
The good thing is, the shipping will be much faster. zFrontier second time QC normally take one week or more.
The bad thing is, we don't have the second time QC this time. We'll do the QC more carefully tho.

Hi, I really wanted to join but a bit concerned regarding shipping to my country. Will you use a door-to-door shipping method like DHL Express or do I have to pick it up in our local post once it arrives? Customs fees and loooong processing time in our country is a bit of a mess, which is why I asked.

I hope you can provide more info on the shipping proxy that you will use. Thanks, Senter! I'm really looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 16 January 2019, 23:40:54
So base kit already includes an aluminum/PC weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 16 January 2019, 23:51:24
Is the sandblasted weight/plate raw, or does it have a clear coat?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: yemeisong on Wed, 16 January 2019, 23:53:24
is there another page for people in China?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: gnhuy91 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 00:38:22
Can you provide sample of MAO white? How is it in comparison with E-white?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: bengine on Thu, 17 January 2019, 00:54:30
Will you be putting together an order list spreadsheet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: spyruf on Thu, 17 January 2019, 01:33:00
So base kit already includes an aluminum/PC weight?
Yes. For $275 (excluding fees and shipping) you can get everything you need to build a keyboard

Can you provide sample of MAO white? How is it in comparison with E-white?
Go look at the initial GB post for the leaf 80 on reddit. Thereís direct comparison pictures. Otherwise thereís a lot of posts of e white and a couple mao on the leaf 80 GH thread and on reddit

Will you be putting together an order list spreadsheet?
I donít think heís done this before so I wouldnít expect one. It would be helpful though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: bengine on Thu, 17 January 2019, 01:47:04
Can you provide sample of MAO white? How is it in comparison with E-white?

Here's the comparison in Leaf 80 GB: https://imgur.com/5NyCjC6 (https://imgur.com/5NyCjC6). Left is e-White, right is MAO White.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: gnhuy91 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 01:51:21
Can you provide sample of MAO white? How is it in comparison with E-white?

Here's the comparison in Leaf 80 GB: https://imgur.com/5NyCjC6 (https://imgur.com/5NyCjC6). Left is e-White, right is MAO White.
thanks mate, going e white now
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Coolbeanz on Thu, 17 January 2019, 02:07:04
As so many people asked, dedicated WKL plate can be available, but only in black/clear PC.
You can write a note in the last question in the order form and tell me to replace the PC layout to dedicated WKL.

The current "WKL" plate is meant to be used for the hotswap PCB.
The universal plate is a must-have.
The dedicated HHKB plate is requested in the IC.
The ALPS plate is also a must-have.

I can not provide any more options guys LOL

Thank you so much for this compromise!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 17 January 2019, 05:44:02
So base kit already includes an aluminum/PC weight?
Yes. For $275 (excluding fees and shipping) you can get everything you need to build a keyboard

+ stabs, switches, and caps  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 17 January 2019, 05:50:15
dang this is nice
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: edasaur on Thu, 17 January 2019, 05:53:33
looks fantastic! very tempted to join in.


is there a side - profile view? Thanks!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:19:52
Is it possible to do an ALPS WKL build?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Keltop on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:22:29
Is the Universal PCB soldered or not?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:25:49
Is the Universal PCB soldered or not?
No.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:26:48
Is it possible to do an ALPS WKL build?
Yes.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: rope on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:27:35
pm'ed for brass kit!  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:32:03
Is it possible to do an ALPS WKL build?
Yes.

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Great, I assume I'd just specify a WKL top and then the alps plate and pcb?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:36:13
Is it possible to do an ALPS WKL build?
Yes.

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Great, I assume I'd just specify a WKL top and then the alps plate and pcb?
Please read thru the thread wrt the wkl plate. There is something you should probably take note of.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:39:46
Is it possible to do an ALPS WKL build?
Yes.

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Great, I assume I'd just specify a WKL top and then the alps plate and pcb?
Please read thru the thread wrt the wkl  plate. There is something you should probably take note of.

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Oh I saw that about the backspace but I assume I can't use the WKL plate with alps anyway due to different cutouts? I would need to use the alps plate and pcb and just leave a gap on the winkeys?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Keltop on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:40:25
Is the Universal PCB soldered or not?
No.

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What about  the Hot swappable?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:41:25
Is the Universal PCB soldered or not?
No.

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What about  the Hot swappable?
Yes. The hotswap sockets are soldered.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 17 January 2019, 06:55:02
Wait just to clarify, you will offer the PC plate in dedicated WKL layout? (without the cutout for the winkey?)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: hq on Thu, 17 January 2019, 07:35:37
Looks awesome!   :thumb:

but...cries in ISO  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mdlt97 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 07:50:05
can we see this dedicated wkl plate because imo a dedicated wkl plate should have been the plate you picked originally since like its the proper plate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: o3okevin on Thu, 17 January 2019, 08:20:09
As per Senter, the dedicated WKL plate he mentioned above will have:

PC plates only
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 17 January 2019, 08:38:47
The alps plate should omit the winkey opening as well.  Please consider  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: eagleheardt on Thu, 17 January 2019, 09:15:15
purchased e-black case with brass plate and brass weight!!

I really want the numpad friend to have 24 keys eventually, but I'll be patient and wait till everything is final and try to add what I can.

SOOOO hype for this one!

Is this... endgame?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: fireworm on Thu, 17 January 2019, 10:32:19
purchased e-black case with brass plate and brass weight!!

I really want the numpad friend to have 24 keys eventually, but I'll be patient and wait till everything is final and try to add what I can.

SOOOO hype for this one!

Is this... endgame?
It's an endgame. Until you want to play again.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 17 January 2019, 11:44:08
Will the original WKL plate still retain the cutouts (as shown in the image) that would be under the blockers as well? Itíd be nice for PC cases to have it closed like the HHKB plate since itís transparent.

Same with the ďnewĒ dedicated WKL PC plates, if you can share the design of that as well that would be great. Thanks


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ejewell89 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 11:44:56
in for poly
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 17 January 2019, 12:20:15
Has anyone been invoiced yet?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 12:27:06
Just placed my order.  Will there be a follow up with the details of the order to make sure we got it all in right?

As so many people asked, dedicated WKL plate can be available, but only in black/clear PC.
You can write a note in the last question in the order form and tell me to replace the PC layout to dedicated WKL.

The current "WKL" plate is meant to be used for the hotswap PCB.
The universal plate is a must-have.
The dedicated HHKB plate is requested in the IC.
The ALPS plate is also a must-have.

I can not provide any more options guys LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 17 January 2019, 12:27:55
Not possible to have regular caps for dedicated WKL plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 17 January 2019, 12:59:20
Looking at the Alps Plate, it seems Iíll be able to use this with AEK II keycaps, correct? No need for a 7u spacebar, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Lormania on Thu, 17 January 2019, 13:18:12
Are changes allowed after submitted order? I want to go ahead and place my order
You get two pms to him from reading the op.

I'm super excited for the alps support. Finally a nice case for alps!

My thoughts exactly! What setup are you planning? I hear polycarb makes boards sound better so pairing alps with that could be a good combo. I am between the PC and E-White.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: fireworm on Thu, 17 January 2019, 13:32:25
Are changes allowed after submitted order? I want to go ahead and place my order
You get two pms to him from reading the op.

I'm super excited for the alps support. Finally a nice case for alps!

My thoughts exactly! What setup are you planning? I hear polycarb makes boards sound better so pairing alps with that could be a good combo. I am between the PC and E-White.

I'm pretty sure I'll be buying two (pc alps and brass mx), plus another alps brass plate + pcb.  Zealio V2's are quite nice, and I'm a sucker for Split Space.  Still waffling though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 13:59:26

Hi, I really wanted to join but a bit concerned regarding shipping to my country. Will you use a door-to-door shipping method like DHL Express or do I have to pick it up in our local post once it arrives? Customs fees and loooong processing time in our country is a bit of a mess, which is why I asked.

I hope you can provide more info on the shipping proxy that you will use. Thanks, Senter! I'm really looking forward to this!

Yes, I'll use DHL Express, not the local DHL tho. Hongkong DHL is cheaper than in mainland China. All the packages will be shipped to a Hongkong DHL proxy. Then the proxy will distribute the packages to every country.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:00:11
Is the sandblasted weight/plate raw, or does it have a clear coat?

Sandblasted brass parts are raw.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:00:58
is there another page for people in China?

Chinese buy just ended.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:03:04
Will you be putting together an order list spreadsheet?

The order information will be included in the invoice.
I think it's not necessary to display everyone's ID and options in public.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:08:02
is there a side - profile view? Thanks!

Quickly check my phone album and didn't find one. Here's (https://i.imgur.com/j4HnoqX.jpg) a side view of Leaf 80 prototype I shared before. Leaf 60 is pretty much the same.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:09:51
Wait just to clarify, you will offer the PC plate in dedicated WKL layout? (without the cutout for the winkey?)

You didn't hear me wrong. No cutouts for WK, stepped/non-stepped capslock, 2u BS.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:17:15
The alps plate should omit the winkey opening as well.  Please consider  :thumb:

With WK cutouts: no problem on alu/opaque cases, having the opportunity to use win keys.

Without WK cutouts: not ideal for clear cases if you don't use win keys.

Hard decision
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:19:53
Will the original WKL plate still retain the cutouts (as shown in the image) that would be under the blockers as well?

The original plate will stay as is. Yep, I will post the new plate's pic later on.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:20:10
Singa plates are pretty open on the bottom row. The WKL PC looks fine. I think that the plates for this run have been a little over thought.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:23:26
Has anyone been invoiced yet?

No worries. It hasn't been started yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:25:05
Singa plates are pretty open on the bottom row. The WKL PC looks fine. I think that the plates for this run have been a little over thought.

the less open space in plates the better tbh

the more open space there is in the bottom row, the more prone plate mount switches will be to twisting, which is more annoying than thinking for 45 seconds about what layout you're gonna build your board in
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:26:19
Looking at the Alps Plate, it seems Iíll be able to use this with AEK II keycaps, correct? No need for a 7u spacebar, right?

I don't think 6.5u spacebar will work.
AEK caps work best on curved top cases like on Lunar.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:30:07
What I'm saying is that a tweaked version of this plate could've been offered... Delete ISO and make sure it has 2u/split bs and normal/stepped caps. Even if the squares are open behind the corner/wkl blockers, it will still look fine (like Singa). No need for all these other VERY specific plates.
Singa plates are pretty open on the bottom row. The WKL PC looks fine. I think that the plates for this run have been a little over thought.

the less open space in plates the better tbh

the more open space there is in the bottom row, the more prone plate mount switches will be to twisting, which is more annoying than thinking for 45 seconds about what layout you're gonna build your board in
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:30:55
Forgot to post the plate lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/00c6093f8c5c6480d5684422332fe8f2.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:35:50
Forgot to post the plate lol
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/00c6093f8c5c6480d5684422332fe8f2.jpg)


this is the most actively normal plate i have ever seen and i do not understand your gripe

although i do agree with delete iso
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:36:59
Forgot to post the plate lol
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/00c6093f8c5c6480d5684422332fe8f2.jpg)


this is the most actively normal plate i have ever seen and i do not understand your gripe

although i do agree with delete iso
Are you paying attention? This isn't the plate being offered in the GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:38:48
Forgot to post the plate lol
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/00c6093f8c5c6480d5684422332fe8f2.jpg)


this is the most actively normal plate i have ever seen and i do not understand your gripe

although i do agree with delete iso
Are you paying attention? This isn't the plate being offered in the GB.

there are different plate offerings because the holes look weird under PC

i thought that image was from the OP

senter has run his share of GBs and i trust him to handle sorting all the wacky plates

this is basically a non-issue
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:47:15
I feel much better about it now that you've spoken. Thank you so much for involving yourself.
Forgot to post the plate lol
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/00c6093f8c5c6480d5684422332fe8f2.jpg)


this is the most actively normal plate i have ever seen and i do not understand your gripe

although i do agree with delete iso
Are you paying attention? This isn't the plate being offered in the GB.

there are different plate offerings because the holes look weird under PC

i thought that image was from the OP

senter has run his share of GBs and i trust him to handle sorting all the wacky plates

this is basically a non-issue
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 17 January 2019, 14:54:25
The universal plate will work with the hotswap PCB if we want to use it for a full layout, right? It says HHKB/WKL but I would want the full layout.

(https://i.imgur.com/4710nQ9.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dubious on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:01:10
I would totally pick one up if the timing was different. GL with GB, and nice board  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: up-in on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:05:49
is it worth it to upgrade the brass plate into PVD coated? Is that just for look or are there any other advantages?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:10:46
It will be more resistant to tarnishing. Raw brass tends to leave fingerprints from the oils in your hands that don't really wipe off.
is it worth it to upgrade the brass plate into PVD coated? Is that just for look or are there any other advantages?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mikenogo on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:19:02
It will be more resistant to tarnishing. Raw brass tends to leave fingerprints from the oils in your hands that don't really wipe off.
is it worth it to upgrade the brass plate into PVD coated? Is that just for look or are there any other advantages?

I find this very annoying for one of my brass sandblasted plates that I purchased off someone else.. It looks nice but the tarnishing it just annoying especially when they're not my fingerprints. Anyways do you know what you use to clean them off and get them refinished?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 17 January 2019, 15:20:25
It will be more resistant to tarnishing. Raw brass tends to leave fingerprints from the oils in your hands that don't really wipe off.
is it worth it to upgrade the brass plate into PVD coated? Is that just for look or are there any other advantages?

I find this very annoying for one of my brass sandblasted plates that I purchased off someone else.. It looks nice but the tarnishing it just annoying especially when they're not my fingerprints. Anyways do you know what you use to clean them off and get them refinished?

Ketchup or brasso and a lot of elbow grease.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Rorkish on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:33:31
Could someone clarify whether the ALPS plate is available in materials other than PC?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: fireworm on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:40:59
Could someone clarify whether the ALPS plate is available in materials other than PC?

ALPS plate is in all materials.

The WKL plate has a special version where the WKL holes are removed, in PC only.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dantambok on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:53:54
Uhh i think i want to change my order. Do i just pm? Or can i request my old order to be cancelled and i make a new one?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 18:42:06
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: eagleheardt on Thu, 17 January 2019, 19:14:34
probably dumb question:

the e-black case - that's made of aluminum, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 19:19:14
This
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mnpq.raven on Thu, 17 January 2019, 19:23:47
probably dumb question:

the e-black case - that's made of aluminum, right?
yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: yemeisong on Thu, 17 January 2019, 19:25:07
is there another page for people in China?

Chinese buy just ended.
but I can still order to China right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 17 January 2019, 19:42:16
Any chance I made it to the top 10 for the full PVD Brass board, Senter? I was just curious. :[
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: reidd on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:05:46
This
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yaaaa
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Aevyn on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:10:10
Are all those options supposed to be there for the weight? I'm having a hard time imagining a clear PC weight.

EDIT: After reading again, I'm assuming these are for the leaf shape accessory/logo on the bottom?

EDIT2: If you can get the whole weight in clear PC, do you have a render or photo of a completely clear PC build? (case, plate, weight, leaf accessory). Just trying to imagine what it would look like.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:21:49
Uhh i think i want to change my order. Do i just pm? Or can i request my old order to be cancelled and i make a new one?

Also interested on how to change order

Also, does Fox Labs have a discord?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 17 January 2019, 21:54:07
It's in the order link...
Uhh i think i want to change my order. Do i just pm? Or can i request my old order to be cancelled and i make a new one?

Also interested on how to change order

Also, does Fox Labs have a discord?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 17 January 2019, 23:11:05

Hi, I really wanted to join but a bit concerned regarding shipping to my country. Will you use a door-to-door shipping method like DHL Express or do I have to pick it up in our local post once it arrives? Customs fees and loooong processing time in our country is a bit of a mess, which is why I asked.

I hope you can provide more info on the shipping proxy that you will use. Thanks, Senter! I'm really looking forward to this!

Yes, I'll use DHL Express, not the local DHL tho. Hongkong DHL is cheaper than in mainland China. All the packages will be shipped to a Hongkong DHL proxy. Then the proxy will distribute the packages to every country.

Thank you for the clarification, Senter! Will finalize the choices then place my order later. GL on this GB!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: kialios on Fri, 18 January 2019, 00:25:00
pc+1
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: up-in on Fri, 18 January 2019, 01:51:28
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yeah, too bad that i really want to get PVD coated brass plate, with the high price, i just pick the normal brass.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 18 January 2019, 02:28:41
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yeah, too bad that i really want to get PVD coated brass plate, with the high price, i just pick the normal brass.
I think it's for a whole extra one

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: blizzara01 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 03:44:23
I hope we have samples of aluminum/PC bottom leaf shape accessory
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: georgethehuman on Fri, 18 January 2019, 03:44:34
is the weight in the order the form the material of the leaf accessory for the back or are they separate pieces?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 18 January 2019, 08:17:05
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yeah, too bad that i really want to get PVD coated brass plate, with the high price, i just pick the normal brass.
I think it's for a whole extra one

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There's an upgrade price and an extra price. The extra price seems reasonable... The upgrade price does not, seeing as your giving up the base versions.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: etong415 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 08:32:24
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yeah, too bad that i really want to get PVD coated brass plate, with the high price, i just pick the normal brass.
I think it's for a whole extra one

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There's an upgrade price and an extra price. The extra price seems reasonable... The upgrade price does not, seeing as your giving up the base versions.
Agree, I followed this through IC, and didnít expect a brass plate+weight to cost so much more than the base kit.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Fri, 18 January 2019, 08:36:20
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

I would like to echo this sentiment.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: thearctican on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:22:10
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

I would like to echo this sentiment.
Agreed.

Filled out the order with a black plate and unfinished brass weight. Looks good guys.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: tiydal on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:24:38
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

I would like to echo this sentiment.

Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

yeah, too bad that i really want to get PVD coated brass plate, with the high price, i just pick the normal brass.
I think it's for a whole extra one

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There's an upgrade price and an extra price. The extra price seems reasonable... The upgrade price does not, seeing as your giving up the base versions.
Agree, I followed this through IC, and didnít expect a brass plate+weight to cost so much more than the base kit.


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Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

I would like to echo this sentiment.
Agreed.

Filled out the order with a black plate and unfinished brass weight. Looks good guys.

Agreed also, its the reason I havent submitted yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: JohnWest on Fri, 18 January 2019, 11:16:08
In for two, can't wait! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: pcire on Fri, 18 January 2019, 11:25:42
Isn't the prices for a brass plate and weight a bit high?
Brass plate upgrade usually goes for $10-12, $37 is pretty high

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 18 January 2019, 11:34:46
 :I feel the same way fwiw. I still put in an order but didn't upgrade the plate like I usually would.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: mog_genius88 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 12:15:08
:I feel the same way fwiw. I still put in an order but didn't upgrade the plate like I usually would.

I was kinda ok with the plate. It at least serves a function and is in line with how much brass plates nornally cost. Still a little disappointing but fair imo

The brass weight on the other hand....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 18 January 2019, 12:15:45
For what it's worth, here's my take on the plate and weight pricing - I don't feel $50~ extra for a PVD brass plate upgrade is too out of the ordinary, considering there are several options being offered rather than just the one plate for every layout (as is with most TKLs or 65%, etc) I can understand that the cost may be justifiable and I have seen similar situations with other very successful GBs.

That said, at just like 7-10 bucks extra for the plate and weight respectively to just get an extra on top of your already included versions, that's a disproportionately attractive deal in my opinion. If the prices remain as is, there's no real reason to flat out replace your standard options, rather just get a set of extras for like $15 together with an extra PCB if you're worried about it being proprietary and not being readily available if something does happen to your other one.

PS: the weight is expensive either way you go about it however, but without knowing how the machining etc works I'd rather not comment/complain.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 18 January 2019, 13:59:12
The machining on the weight is happening whether it's brass or aluminum. That being said, I would say that the size and complexity does justify a little price increase. If you look at it from a "credit" stand point, though, you're hardly getting anything back for omitting the base aluminum during the upgrade. The plate is a different story. There isn't anything special about it to garner that high of an upgrade cost. It's very obvious that higher margins are being made on the upgrades and it's trying to motivate us (the customer) to by extras instead. I've already placed my order with both upgrades, but I'm definitely going to to be down grading, because I don't see the value of the current cost/brass ratio.
For what it's worth, here's my take on the plate and weight pricing - I don't feel $50~ extra for a PVD brass plate upgrade is too out of the ordinary, considering there are several options being offered rather than just the one plate for every layout (as is with most TKLs or 65%, etc) I can understand that the cost may be justifiable and I have seen similar situations with other very successful GBs.

That said, at just like 7-10 bucks extra for the plate and weight respectively to just get an extra on top of your already included versions, that's a disproportionately attractive deal in my opinion. If the prices remain as is, there's no real reason to flat out replace your standard options, rather just get a set of extras for like $15 together with an extra PCB if you're worried about it being proprietary and not being readily available if something does happen to your other one.

PS: the weight is expensive either way you go about it however, but without knowing how the machining etc works I'd rather not comment/complain.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:35:28
Uhh i think i want to change my order. Do i just pm? Or can i request my old order to be cancelled and i make a new one?

Just feel free to PM
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:37:50
but I can still order to China right?

This is a little tricky but yes.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:38:23
Just out of curiosity, can the hotswap pcb be tweaked in a way to fit 2u backspace (via desoldering), or are the switch holes completely fixed in the specified pattern in the image? Sorry not very familiar with hotswap pcbs at all.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:43:50
Are all those options supposed to be there for the weight? I'm having a hard time imagining a clear PC weight.

EDIT: After reading again, I'm assuming these are for the leaf shape accessory/logo on the bottom?

EDIT2: If you can get the whole weight in clear PC, do you have a render or photo of a completely clear PC build? (case, plate, weight, leaf accessory). Just trying to imagine what it would look like.

Yes. We call it weight but it's basically not. I know it's a little bit confusing. You got the idea.
I don't have a full clear PC build. I have a full opaque white PC prototype tho. My suggestion is to match the brass weight with the PC case unless you want a travel board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 14:46:14
is the weight in the order the form the material of the leaf accessory for the back or are they separate pieces?

a whole one
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:04:04
A response to the brass weight/plate upgrade prices:

Several ppl pointed out the price for upgrading alu to brass is expensive. The price for extra brass parts is much more reasonable.
That's true. Now let me explain why.
You know we're offering tons of options to customize. 3 top layouts, 5 plate layouts, 3 materials, 5 finishes.
For several combinations, there might be just several boards will be made.
On the other side, you may have heard some big factories are not willing to accept small orders.
Our order is the worst kind that the factory wants to accept.
Maintaining a good relationship with the engineers and making them cooperative is the most important thing to make the GB smooth.
So when we order the boards, we get quotes for all aluminum kits + extra parts.
That means no matter you buy the aluminum plate or not, the plate will be made, and they cost money.
This is not the single case for Leaf 60. It's the same for all the previous Fox Lab GBs. After every GB we will have many leftover plates/weights.
That's a part of the reason that we can run smooth GBs. The downside is the price for upgrading is expensive.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Gati on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:06:08
Iím not trying to call you out or anything, but isnít it standard for vendors to eat the PP fee instead of making the consumer pay for it? (Or have I been making too many non-keyboard purchases? :p)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:06:42
A response to the brass weight/plate upgrade prices:

Several ppl pointed out the price for upgrading alu to brass is expensive. The price for extra brass parts is much more reasonable.
That's true. Now let me explain why.
You know we're offering tons of options to customize. 3 top layouts, 5 plate layouts, 3 materials, 5 finishes.
For several combinations, there might be just several boards will be made.
On the other side, you may have heard some big factories are not willing to accept small orders.
Our order is the worst kind that the factory wants to accept.
Maintaining a good relationship with the engineers and making them cooperative is the most important thing to make the GB smooth.
So when we order the boards, we get quotes for all aluminum kits + extra parts.
That means no matter you buy the aluminum plate or not, the plate will be made, and they cost money.
This is not the single case for Leaf 60. It's the same for all the previous Fox Lab GBs. After every GB we will have many leftover plates/weights.
That's a part of the reason that we can run smooth GBs. The downside is the price for upgrading is expensive.

So if we buy the base option just to secure a board during the preorder, we can always go back (within a reasonable amount of time) after the GB and buy the upgrades?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:11:03
Iím not trying to call you out or anything, but isnít it standard for vendors to eat the PP fee instead of making the consumer pay for it? (Or have I been making too many non-keyboard purchases? :p)

Every keyboard GB Iíve been a part of requires PP sales on the buyer so I donít think itís weird. Feels more intimate :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:15:49
Iím not trying to call you out or anything, but isnít it standard for vendors to eat the PP fee instead of making the consumer pay for it? (Or have I been making too many non-keyboard purchases? :p)

It's not standard for custom keyboard GBs.
The PP fee is the cost that the buyers will pay anyhow.
It's just a matter how I declare the price. In the IC post I said $275 excluding PP fee or $290 with fee included to clarify.
Does it really matter for the buyers?
Sure I can mark the price as $290. However, in that case, some people don't even read and think it's without PP fee included.
As most GB runners still declare prices excluding PP fee. I just follow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:17:05

So if we buy the base option just to secure a board during the preorder, we can always go back (within a reasonable amount of time) after the GB and buy the upgrades?


Yes, there will be leftover parts for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:18:40

So if we buy the base option just to secure a board during the preorder, we can always go back (within a reasonable amount of time) after the GB and buy the upgrades?


Yes, there will be leftover parts for sure.

Hmmmmmm....You may have just sold another board, sir.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:26:38
I read this as there will be extra Aluminum parts.

So if we buy the base option just to secure a board during the preorder, we can always go back (within a reasonable amount of time) after the GB and buy the upgrades?


Yes, there will be leftover parts for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Rafa_n on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:31:10
You mentioned that you will use a DHL Proxy for shipping, what does that mean exactly?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ChickenBear on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:45:09
Do we get a confirmation email or details regarding the order after we submit the form?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: MxBlue on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:51:31
You mentioned that you will use a DHL Proxy for shipping, what does that mean exactly?

Just means it goes from factory -> Hong Kong -> Hong Kong DHL to your door.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 18 January 2019, 15:58:38
I'm still not sure about the Alps plate.  I'm wanting to build a WKL alps board in PC with a brass plate. I'm planning to use some OmniKey caps (WLK).  Will there be an Alps WKL plate in brass that does not have a hole cut out under the blocker that will support:

1.5u (blocker) 1.5u, 7u, 1.5u (blocker) 1.5u?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: Ball-o-tron on Fri, 18 January 2019, 16:15:16
That means no matter you buy the aluminum plate or not, the plate will be made, and they cost money.
This is not the single case for Leaf 60. It's the same for all the previous Fox Lab GBs. After every GB we will have many leftover plates/weights.

The way you described it, it seems like the "extra" stock has already been paid for by the participants, but since they paid for an "upgrade," they don't get the initial aluminum plate they paid for? Shouldn't they get both in that case?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: MxBlue on Fri, 18 January 2019, 16:28:38
That means no matter you buy the aluminum plate or not, the plate will be made, and they cost money.
This is not the single case for Leaf 60. It's the same for all the previous Fox Lab GBs. After every GB we will have many leftover plates/weights.

The way you described it, it seems like the "extra" stock has already been paid for by the participants, but since they paid for an "upgrade," they don't get the initial aluminum plate they paid for? Shouldn't they get both in that case?

There's margin in all these things, but see it more as he's paying for the plates out of his pocket until someone buys them.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: senter on Fri, 18 January 2019, 16:59:46
That means no matter you buy the aluminum plate or not, the plate will be made, and they cost money.
This is not the single case for Leaf 60. It's the same for all the previous Fox Lab GBs. After every GB we will have many leftover plates/weights.

The way you described it, it seems like the "extra" stock has already been paid for by the participants, but since they paid for an "upgrade," they don't get the initial aluminum plate they paid for? Shouldn't they get both in that case?

You can get both if you want to pay a little bit more. The price difference between upgrade and extra is not large.
There are people only want to use brass plates. They can save several bucks if they upgrade.
I'm being as transparent as I can. You can decide which option is best for you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 18 January 2019, 17:28:28
Are all brass kits accounted for? Would like to know if I need to make a 2nd order for 2nd board or not.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Fri, 18 January 2019, 18:07:26
Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 18 January 2019, 18:13:25
Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

I believe it is compatible with both WKL and HHKB cases, since it is a 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: pcire on Fri, 18 January 2019, 18:20:18
Do you have a picture of the clear PC with aluminum plate & weight/leaf?
I'm afraid I can't afford the brass that I want so much, but I might be able to get the standard kit.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dado brat on Fri, 18 January 2019, 18:51:53
So a split space configuration would be possible with standard PCB and standard plate right?

Does the PCB run on QMK?

Also I couldn't find info on the angle of the case, could someone clarify?

This looks really exciting :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Fri, 18 January 2019, 19:05:46
So a split space configuration would be possible with standard PCB and standard plate right?


Does the PCB run on QMK?


This uses a custom PCB with the usb port in the middle, so standard PCBs won't work.


Yes, it uses QMK


From the IC:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
Post by: dado brat on Fri, 18 January 2019, 19:22:15
So a split space configuration would be possible with standard PCB and standard plate right?


Does the PCB run on QMK?


This uses a custom PCB with the usb port in the middle, so standard PCBs won't work.


Yes, it uses QMK


From the IC:
    • Two versions of proprietary PCBs with middle USB ports. The first version supports variants of MX layouts and WKL ALPS layout. The second version supports hotswap and dedicated HHKB/WKL layout. Both are USB C + QMK

    Thanks for the quick clarification. I should have specified my questions more. I meant to ask if the split space is possible if I opt for the standard layout plate and non-hotswap version of the PCB offered in this GB.[/list]
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: Lazylewis on Fri, 18 January 2019, 20:41:15
    What do I have to order to build the HHKB in the first photo?  I use a HHKB2 and this looks like an awesome board to be it's companion.
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: dantambok on Fri, 18 January 2019, 20:55:46
    Pmed for order changes  :D
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: iamsuperstarr on Fri, 18 January 2019, 20:57:17
    I love the PC design but I'm a bit worried about it potentially yellowing over time. Would there be a way to prevent this or maybe even fix it if it does turn yellow?
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: Iredeus on Fri, 18 January 2019, 21:32:16
    I love the PC design but I'm a bit worried about it potentially yellowing over time. Would there be a way to prevent this or maybe even fix it if it does turn yellow?

    Keep it out of sunlight
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: eagleheardt on Fri, 18 January 2019, 22:45:25
    What LEDs would you recommend for this board?
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 18 January 2019, 23:04:11
    How can we check what we ordered?

    I want to order another and want to make sure I donít get the same config :x
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: ian13 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 23:32:34
    Hmm.. Purple plate/weight on clear polycarbonate case would look good on GMK Taro and HFO, I suppose!

    It's also interesting how PC case will sound on gasket-mount PC plate. Damn, so many options it's so hard to decide! Lol.
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: Lormania on Sat, 19 January 2019, 00:39:07
    Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

    I also want to make sure this is true before I purchase. I would love to get the HHKB top version of the Leaf60 and have an Alps HHKB build!  My understanding is to order the HHKB top version, alps plate, and alps pcb and I would be all good. Apologies if this is obvious but I am a little confused.
    Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
    Post by: JohnWest on Sat, 19 January 2019, 05:54:42
    So a split space configuration would be possible with standard PCB and standard plate right?


    Does the PCB run on QMK?


    This uses a custom PCB with the usb port in the middle, so standard PCBs won't work.


    Yes, it uses QMK


    From the IC:
      • Two versions of proprietary PCBs with middle USB ports. The first version supports variants of MX layouts and WKL ALPS layout. The second version supports hotswap and dedicated HHKB/WKL layout. Both are USB C + QMK

      Thanks for the quick clarification. I should have specified my questions more. I meant to ask if the split space is possible if I opt for the standard layout plate and non-hotswap version of the PCB offered in this GB.[/list]

      Yes, that seems right. From the looks of it, split space can only be achieved using the universal plate with the universal PCB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: JohnWest on Sat, 19 January 2019, 06:04:53
      What do I have to order to build the HHKB in the first photo?  I use a HHKB2 and this looks like an awesome board to be it's companion.

      Clear PC Case (HHKB layout)
      PVD Brass Plate (Universal layout)
      Universal PCB
      PVD Brass Weight
      (+ GMK Serika keyset from somewhere else!)

      Note that if you currently use a HHKB you will be used to split backspace, which the board in that photo lacks. You can still achieve this with the universal PCB and plate, but you could substitute the PCB and/or the plate for their HHKB-specific counterparts. The HHKB PCB is hotswap let, and the HHKB plate would mean the plate wouldn't have a hole where the corner blockers are.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: JohnWest on Sat, 19 January 2019, 06:21:02
      Senter, I just wanted to piss in your pocket for a minute and tell you that I appreciate the frequent and comprehensive communication in this IC and GB. I also love your desire to keep experimenting with different things and your willingness to accommodate as many different needs as possible. I've only heard good things about the leaf80 - I'm really looking forward to this one :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kiandelmundo on Sat, 19 January 2019, 10:08:11
      Iím in! Is there a discord server we can join? Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Sat, 19 January 2019, 10:49:55
      In for an HHKB style Leaf 60 :) Can't wait!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:26:19
      Hi Senter,

      I sent a PM to change my order but i got an invoice for the old order, not the new one. :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: heloitsame on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:46:43
      after the group buy ends, will there be extra pcbs? i might want to pick up one afterwards, but right now i cant justify the extra cost.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:59:17
      Hey Senter, just sent a PM.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:38:48
      E-Black case
      PVD brass universal MX plate
      PVD brass weight

      SUPER HYPED!!!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ggZyg on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:06:27
      Will the PC dedicated WKL plate only offer split shift and backspace?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tentboy on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:29:15
      I cant remember if its been mentioned, does the pcb have underglow?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mmontess on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:45:55
      I cant remember if its been mentioned, does the pcb have underglow?
      It does not
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:50:30
      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      Yes

      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      I also want to make sure this is true before I purchase. I would love to get the HHKB top version of the Leaf60 and have an Alps HHKB build!  My understanding is to order the HHKB top version, alps plate, and alps pcb and I would be all good. Apologies if this is obvious but I am a little confused.

      Your understanding is correct.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:56:54
      Do you have a picture of the clear PC with aluminum plate & weight/leaf?
      I'm afraid I can't afford the brass that I want so much, but I might be able to get the standard kit.

      No.
      There are photos for PC case with brass plate/weight. The board will look about the same with alu plate/weight.
      Brass plate and weight are more for the weight, not the look.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:58:28
      I meant to ask if the split space is possible if I opt for the standard layout plate and non-hotswap version of the PCB offered in this GB.[/list]

      Universal PCB + Universal plate is for the split spacebar layout.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:01:24
      What LEDs would you recommend for this board?

      I recommend no LEDs for switches.
      If you order a clear PC case, I'd recommend RGB LED strips for underglow.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:03:00
      How can we check what we ordered?

      I want to order another and want to make sure I donít get the same config :x

      The brief order info will be included in the invoice. You can also PM me for details.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:06:47
      Hi Senter,

      I sent a PM to change my order but i got an invoice for the old order, not the new one. :)

      Hi dantambok. I didn't receive your PM. I just asked you through PM.

      BTW, for everyone, I've replied all the PMs that requested for changes. Please PM me if you asked and didn't get a reply.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:10:58
      after the group buy ends, will there be extra pcbs? i might want to pick up one afterwards, but right now i cant justify the extra cost.

      Yes.
      Even after extra PCBs are all be taken, they can be made for every 10 PCBs minimum in one batch.
      Same for all Fox Lab board PCBs. 
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: heloitsame on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:09:13
      after the group buy ends, will there be extra pcbs? i might want to pick up one afterwards, but right now i cant justify the extra cost.

      Yes.
      Even after extra PCBs are all be taken, they can be made for every 10 PCBs minimum in one batch.
      Same for all Fox Lab board PCBs.

      thanks for the quick reply! ill be PMing to clarify my order because i now realized i forgot to put something at the bottom.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sat, 19 January 2019, 17:59:45
      Replied for the changes. Thank you Senter!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lazylewis on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:03:17
      What do I have to order to build the HHKB in the first photo?  I use a HHKB2 and this looks like an awesome board to be it's companion.

      Clear PC Case (HHKB layout)
      PVD Brass Plate (Universal layout)
      Universal PCB
      PVD Brass Weight
      (+ GMK Serika keyset from somewhere else!)

      Note that if you currently use a HHKB you will be used to split backspace, which the board in that photo lacks. You can still achieve this with the universal PCB and plate, but you could substitute the PCB and/or the plate for their HHKB-specific counterparts. The HHKB PCB is hotswap let, and the HHKB plate would mean the plate wouldn't have a hole where the corner blockers are.

      Thanks for you help. I ordered the Clear PC case, brass hhkb plate and brass weight, HHKB PCB (hot swappable). 

      Am I correct in thinking that as it's hot swappable no soldering will be required during assembly?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dado brat on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:09:09
      I assume the yellow option is the same as for the leaf 80. If so, can someone elaborate on how vibrant the yellow actually is? it looks very gold-ish to me on the pictures and I would love that
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:39:18
      What do I have to order to build the HHKB in the first photo?  I use a HHKB2 and this looks like an awesome board to be it's companion.

      Clear PC Case (HHKB layout)
      PVD Brass Plate (Universal layout)
      Universal PCB
      PVD Brass Weight
      (+ GMK Serika keyset from somewhere else!)

      Note that if you currently use a HHKB you will be used to split backspace, which the board in that photo lacks. You can still achieve this with the universal PCB and plate, but you could substitute the PCB and/or the plate for their HHKB-specific counterparts. The HHKB PCB is hotswap let, and the HHKB plate would mean the plate wouldn't have a hole where the corner blockers are.

      Thanks for you help. I ordered the Clear PC case, brass hhkb plate and brass weight, HHKB PCB (hot swappable). 

      Am I correct in thinking that as it's hot swappable no soldering will be required during assembly?

      Yeah, you shouldn't have to solder switches in if it's hot swap.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hyun Cheol Hwang on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:59:24

      I sent you an email. Please check. :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:08:14
      What do I have to order to build the HHKB in the first photo?  I use a HHKB2 and this looks like an awesome board to be it's companion.

      Clear PC Case (HHKB layout)
      PVD Brass Plate (Universal layout)
      Universal PCB
      PVD Brass Weight
      (+ GMK Serika keyset from somewhere else!)

      Note that if you currently use a HHKB you will be used to split backspace, which the board in that photo lacks. You can still achieve this with the universal PCB and plate, but you could substitute the PCB and/or the plate for their HHKB-specific counterparts. The HHKB PCB is hotswap let, and the HHKB plate would mean the plate wouldn't have a hole where the corner blockers are.

      Thanks for you help. I ordered the Clear PC case, brass hhkb plate and brass weight, HHKB PCB (hot swappable). 

      Am I correct in thinking that as it's hot swappable no soldering will be required during assembly?

      Yeah, you shouldn't have to solder switches in if it's hot swap.
      Is it compatible to all MX/MX clone switches?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: patch on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:19:08
      hi! bit new to the whole world of "custom and plates"

      I'm looking to order a "future" proof design which involves  compatibility with aftermarket pcbs.

      I'm leaning towards the WKL plate version of the board but will aftermarkets be fine with it, or should I just go with the MX-universal plate for aftermarket pcbs :O
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:25:46
      hi! bit new to the whole world of "custom and plates"

      I'm looking to order a "future" proof design which involves  compatibility with aftermarket pcbs.

      I'm leaning towards the WKL plate version of the board but will aftermarkets be fine with it, or should I just go with the MX-universal plate for aftermarket pcbs :O

      You wonít be able to use aftermarket PCBs because this one has a center placed USB port
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mmontess on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:49:24
      Not sure if this has been asked, but with the HHKB case/plate, will the spacebar be 6.25u or 7u?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sat, 19 January 2019, 20:08:52
      Not sure if this has been asked, but with the HHKB case/plate, will the spacebar be 6.25u or 7u?
      7u
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Sat, 19 January 2019, 22:29:12
      How does this gasket mount compare to something like the meme? How is the typing feel and sound?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 20 January 2019, 01:57:39
      If I want an alps build am I correct in understanding that a HHKB plate + universal PCB will work.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sun, 20 January 2019, 01:58:48
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: pandemic123 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 02:30:02
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?


      got a link monkaS
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sun, 20 January 2019, 02:35:53
      It all starts at 2:10:00 http://www.twitch.tv/taehatypes/v/366670203?sr=a&t=7808s
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?


      got a link monkaS
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: sK0pe on Sun, 20 January 2019, 02:45:39
      The E-red samples seems to be quite dark, was this the lighting or will it be a dark red - brown colour?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Sun, 20 January 2019, 06:22:05
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?
      my leaf 80 didn't have any of those issues at all, guy probably either just got super unlucky or maybe something happened during shipping? i wouldn't personally be concerned, i haven't heard anyone else complain about any of these things either
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: sK0pe on Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:52:35
      Anyhow all in on a red Leaf.
      Don't tell my fiancee.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sun, 20 January 2019, 08:38:52
      Thanks for the info man! Definitely helps restore some confidence.
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?
      my leaf 80 didn't have any of those issues at all, guy probably either just got super unlucky or maybe something happened during shipping? i wouldn't personally be concerned, i haven't heard anyone else complain about any of these things either
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:33:21
      Hey Senter, seeing a build stream tonight of a Leaf80 has me a little concerned. There were lots of switch alignment issues and even caps rubbing on the wkl blockers. The images of the Leaf60 proto looks like the seams around the caps are tight too. Is this something that has been addressed since the 80 group buy?

      I just watched the recording until finish. Seems like there were three issues when Nathan was building the board.

      1. Enter key is a little higher.
      2. Several alpha keys are not aligned.
      3. Left and right Shift keys are a little lower.

      For 1, the issue is gone after Nathan soldered the switch.
      For 2 and 3, I guess some keys were not pressed down completely. Pressing the key while soldering them should fix the problem. That was a custom plate but I didn't find any problems with the plate file.

      update: Saru confirmed what I said.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 10:24:39

      Is it compatible to all MX/MX clone switches?

      Yes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 10:25:57
      If I want an alps build am I correct in understanding that a HHKB plate + universal PCB will work.

      No. You should pick ALPS plate + universal PCB
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 20 January 2019, 11:46:39
      If I want an alps build am I correct in understanding that a HHKB plate + universal PCB will work.

      No. You should pick ALPS plate + universal PCB

      got it, thanks for the clarification!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lormania on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:59:37
      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      Yes

      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      I also want to make sure this is true before I purchase. I would love to get the HHKB top version of the Leaf60 and have an Alps HHKB build!  My understanding is to order the HHKB top version, alps plate, and alps pcb and I would be all good. Apologies if this is obvious but I am a little confused.

      Your understanding is correct.

      Thank you for letting me know! One last question, I do not see split right shift or the split backspace as an option on the alps pcb and plate. Does this mean that you can have an Alps HHKB build for everything but the split right shift and split backspace or is there a way I am not seeing? Thank you for answering all of our questions in a timely matter!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:13:35
      I am sorry of this have been asked before, didn't find answers in the comments. But the renders show ISO support. Does it have ISO support? Really want to get in of it does :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:15:01
      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      Yes

      Is the Alps plate/pcb compatible with the HHKB Layout case?

      I also want to make sure this is true before I purchase. I would love to get the HHKB top version of the Leaf60 and have an Alps HHKB build!  My understanding is to order the HHKB top version, alps plate, and alps pcb and I would be all good. Apologies if this is obvious but I am a little confused.

      Your understanding is correct.

      Thank you for letting me know! One last question, I do not see split right shift or the split backspace as an option on the alps pcb and plate. Does this mean that you can have an Alps HHKB build for everything but the split right shift and split backspace or is there a way I am not seeing? Thank you for answering all of our questions in a timely matter!
      Right, Alps plate only has exactly layout: ANSI WKL.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:20:49
      Definitely getting a PC and brass kit.

      Two questions,

      1. can I use the universal pcb and plate with the HHKB top?
      2. Could a ďstandardĒ 60% pcb and plate be fitted to the case? Asking mainly for the Boardwalk PCB
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:49:32
      PMed for a full PVD version, if spots are available. I understand orders can be changed prior to submitting the form, but can I submit a form for a non-PVD one, in the event that there are no spots available, so I donít miss the GB?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: balduran85 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:35:57
      Is there a way to get hotswap pcb, normal backspace and a win key all together? Or at least hotswap with normal backspace? So many possible combination is confusing me and your help will be highly appreciated.

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:18:27
      Is there a way to get hotswap pcb, normal backspace and a win key all together? Or at least hotswap with normal backspace? So many possible combination is confusing me and your help will be highly appreciated.
      No, hotswap pcb is only split backspace, from what I see.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TheMastermind on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:50:54
      How much does the PC version weigh with the brass plate and weight?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: balduran85 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:41:57
      Is there a way to get hotswap pcb, normal backspace and a win key all together? Or at least hotswap with normal backspace? So many possible combination is confusing me and your help will be highly appreciated.
      No, hotswap pcb is only split backspace, from what I see.

      Thank you sir. I guess I will just have to get used to the split backspace as the clear PC casing is irresistable. And come to think of it, I already have Koyu on the way so I would have to get used to split backspace anyway.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:43:38
      Is there a way to get hotswap pcb, normal backspace and a win key all together? Or at least hotswap with normal backspace? So many possible combination is confusing me and your help will be highly appreciated.
      No, hotswap pcb is only split backspace, from what I see.

      Thank you sir. I guess I will just have to get used to the split backspace as the clear PC casing is irresistable. And come to think of it, I already have Koyu on the way so I would have to get used to split backspace anyway.
      For what itís worth, i just got a 60% w/ split backspace after using mostly 75% and TKL boards, the switch took about half an hour to get use to, and it feels so much more comfortable to use


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MMKB on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:54:06
      Is it possible to have more photos of black polycarb?

      Edit: Also, could you add an option for ordering extra weight?

      Here you go https://imgur.com/a/dzHCKBy

      You can write a note in the last question in the form. I thought no one wants extra weights.

      The potential of building a lightweight -- if that's your thing -- full-polycarbonate keyboard is very interesting. The side curves are beautiful and indeed leaf-like.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 20 January 2019, 18:54:26
      Is there a way to get hotswap pcb, normal backspace and a win key all together? Or at least hotswap with normal backspace? So many possible combination is confusing me and your help will be highly appreciated.
      No, hotswap pcb is only split backspace, from what I see.

      Thank you sir. I guess I will just have to get used to the split backspace as the clear PC casing is irresistable. And come to think of it, I already have Koyu on the way so I would have to get used to split backspace anyway.
      For what itís worth, i just got a 60% w/ split backspace after using mostly 75% and TKL boards, the switch took about half an hour to get use to, and it feels so much more comfortable to use


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      I took a hint from Colemak and put it on the caps lock. Quite nice, imo... Was sad that alps doesn't have split bs though....
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:15:32

      Thank you for letting me know! One last question, I do not see split right shift or the split backspace as an option on the alps pcb and plate. Does this mean that you can have an Alps HHKB build for everything but the split right shift and split backspace or is there a way I am not seeing? Thank you for answering all of our questions in a timely matter!

      ALPS plate and PCB only support what's showing in OP. The PCB should work for split BS and Rshift with a little drilling/wiring but the plate does not.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:16:27
      I am sorry of this have been asked before, didn't find answers in the comments. But the renders show ISO support. Does it have ISO support? Really want to get in of it does :)

      Unfortunately, it does not.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:16:55
      Do you know how much flex this has with the PC plate??
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:18:22
      Definitely getting a PC and brass kit.

      Two questions,

      1. can I use the universal pcb and plate with the HHKB top?
      2. Could a ďstandardĒ 60% pcb and plate be fitted to the case? Asking mainly for the Boardwalk PCB

      1. Yes
      2. No
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:58:09
      Definitely getting a PC and brass kit.

      Two questions,

      1. can I use the universal pcb and plate with the HHKB top?
      2. Could a ďstandardĒ 60% pcb and plate be fitted to the case? Asking mainly for the Boardwalk PCB

      1. Yes
      2. No

      Thanks for the response!  For 1, I would need to use the HHKB bottom row right? I wouldnít be able to get a HHKB case with split spacebar support. Just want to confirm. Thank you!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: balduran85 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:30:10
      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB
       
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:39:04


      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB

      The only plate that does not have the winkey cutout is a special one senter added in either black or clear PC.

      Hotswap pcb has only a split backspace, so it is not regular layout.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: balduran85 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:44:08


      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB

      The only plate that does not have the winkey cutout is a special one senter added in either black or clear PC.

      Hotswap pcb has only a split backspace, so it is not regular layout.

      Thank you again sir. However, what I was asking was about was the case layout which I am supposed to choose between Regular layout, WKL layout or HHKB layout in the google form.
      I am curious if I choose Regluar Layout for the case, a hotswappable PCB and Bronze WKL plate, I will be able to build a board with a full bottom row so that there won't be any plate holes showing through the pc case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:56:43




      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB

      The only plate that does not have the winkey cutout is a special one senter added in either black or clear PC.

      Hotswap pcb has only a split backspace, so it is not regular layout.

      Thank you again sir. However, what I was asking was about was the case layout which I am supposed to choose between Regular layout, WKL layout or HHKB layout in the google form.
      I am curious if I choose Regluar Layout for the case, a hotswappable PCB and Bronze WKL plate, I will be able to build a board with a full bottom row so that there won't be any plate holes showing through the pc case.

      OK, yes. I see.

      The WKL pcb / plate bottom row layout is 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5.

      Some folks don't like the 1u keys and want case blockers there, thus the WKL case option (blockers). 

      Some people don't like the 1.5u outside keys and want case blockers there, thus the hhkb case.

      Your choice would use all three 1.5, 1, 1.5 keys (because you don't want to see the holes in the plate through the WKL case block outs).
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: balduran85 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:58:59




      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB

      The only plate that does not have the winkey cutout is a special one senter added in either black or clear PC.

      Hotswap pcb has only a split backspace, so it is not regular layout.

      Thank you again sir. However, what I was asking was about was the case layout which I am supposed to choose between Regular layout, WKL layout or HHKB layout in the google form.
      I am curious if I choose Regluar Layout for the case, a hotswappable PCB and Bronze WKL plate, I will be able to build a board with a full bottom row so that there won't be any plate holes showing through the pc case.

      OK, yes. I see.

      The WKL pcb / plate bottom row layout is 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5.

      Some folks don't like the 1u keys and want case blockers there, thus the WKL case option (blockers). 

      Some people don't like the 1.5u outside keys and want case blockers there, thus the hhkb case.

      Your choice would use all three 1.5, 1, 1.5 keys (because you don't want to see the holes in the plate through the WKL case block outs).

      Thank you very much. I think that clarifies everything and that what I plan to build is possible.
      I guess I will pull the trigger with Regluar Layout case + hotswap PCB + Bronze WKL plate.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: o3okevin on Sun, 20 January 2019, 22:58:45




      Sorry for keep asking questions. Should've asked with my previous reply but I got confused again while selecting options in the google form.
      The hotswap PCB is said to be for HHKB/WKL but the picture of the layout shows winkey on it. Does this mean that it can be used for regular layout as well?
      Since the combination I want is [clear PC housing + hotswap PCB + bronze PVD plate + plate holes not showing through the clear PC housing], I guess the only choice I have is to go with regular layout, so I do hope the regular layout is possible for hotswap PCB

      The only plate that does not have the winkey cutout is a special one senter added in either black or clear PC.

      Hotswap pcb has only a split backspace, so it is not regular layout.

      Thank you again sir. However, what I was asking was about was the case layout which I am supposed to choose between Regular layout, WKL layout or HHKB layout in the google form.
      I am curious if I choose Regluar Layout for the case, a hotswappable PCB and Bronze WKL plate, I will be able to build a board with a full bottom row so that there won't be any plate holes showing through the pc case.

      OK, yes. I see.

      The WKL pcb / plate bottom row layout is 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5.

      Some folks don't like the 1u keys and want case blockers there, thus the WKL case option (blockers). 

      Some people don't like the 1.5u outside keys and want case blockers there, thus the hhkb case.

      Your choice would use all three 1.5, 1, 1.5 keys (because you don't want to see the holes in the plate through the WKL case block outs).

      Thank you very much. I think that clarifies everything and that what I plan to build is possible.
      I guess I will pull the trigger with Regluar Layout case + hotswap PCB + Bronze WKL plate.

      Assuming you mean bronze = rose gold, that colour is only for the full brass version unfortunately. PVD brass plates with pc/aluminum housings will be gold coloured.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hyun Cheol Hwang on Sun, 20 January 2019, 23:57:42
      I made a second order.
      Please send me an invoice soon. :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: otanishock on Mon, 21 January 2019, 03:26:03
      Does dedicated WKL Polycarb plate support split backspace?

      Edit: I'm assuming the dedicated WKL Plate in Polycarb you mentioned earlier would have this layout?

      [attach=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Mon, 21 January 2019, 03:52:26
      Joined in for PC WKL Plate, hotswap PCB, WKL MAO White, and Eblack weight! super excited :) hopefully, this yields a flexible board!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 21 January 2019, 04:16:17
      How long till this closes? Trying hard to wrangle some money together for this
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: bengine on Mon, 21 January 2019, 04:25:36
      How long till this closes? Trying hard to wrangle some money together for this
      The GB opens for 1 week from Jan 16. So it should close on Jan 23?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:53:43
      Does dedicated WKL Polycarb plate support split backspace?

      Edit: I'm assuming the dedicated WKL Plate in Polycarb you mentioned earlier would have this layout?

      (Attachment Link)

      No, the dedicated WKL plate supports 2u backspace and stagged/non-stagged capslock.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:55:04
      How long till this closes? Trying hard to wrangle some money together for this
      The GB opens for 1 week from Jan 16. So it should close on Jan 23?

      Yes.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:57:33
      Hey Senter? I sent a pm btw. Thank you! :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 21 January 2019, 08:59:54
      Hey Senter? I sent a pm btw. Thank you! :D

      I didn't receive any messages from you. Could you send it again?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Sic_Alpha on Mon, 21 January 2019, 09:56:40
      Looking for a match to GMK Nautilus.  Would the yellow color option be a good match?  Was hoping for a Navy Blue  ;D
      Full brass would probably look awesome with Nautilus, but not sure if I can swing that much $ right now.  They're also pretty limited at 10 sets; have all 10 been filled?
      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Genn on Mon, 21 January 2019, 10:47:06
      Just to verify:

      If I were to order what's below, that means I'd get to have 3 plate + PCB combos (2 MX and 1 Alps)?

      Regular kits: $275 (PC plate, PC weight, Hotswap PCB)
      Extra sandblasted brass weight: $56
      Extra sandblasted brass plate: $45 (WKL)
      Extra aluminum/PC plate: $25 (Alps)
      Extra PCB: $37 (Hotswap)
      Extra PCB: $37 (Universal, for Alps)

      Are Alps plates alu exclusively?
      Is it possible to get a WKL plate that doesn't have the 1u holes on the bottom row? (especially for brass so that I don't see the holes through the clear PC blockers)
      Is the WKL PC plate layout different from the WKL brass plate's layout?
      Also, am I understanding correctly that the option to add extra brass plate/weight is really cheap compared to just upgrading? And how would I go about getting an extra brass weight (assuming I got the regular PC weight with the regular kit)? I ask because I don't see an option on the ordering form.

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: otanishock on Mon, 21 January 2019, 11:13:30
      No, the dedicated WKL plate supports 2u backspace and stagged/non-stagged capslock.
      Right forgot to edit that out. But the main takeaway is the bottom row will be like the one I posted right?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: titanium on Mon, 21 January 2019, 12:47:43
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Mon, 21 January 2019, 13:06:59
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?
      I would guess a little less than half as the density of polycarbonate vs aluminum is roughly 1.2 to 2.6

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 13:48:23
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?
      I would guess a little less than half as the density of polycarbonate vs aluminum is roughly 1.2 to 2.6

      but at what point is the mass difference unnoticeable? granted I'm no expert but i dont feel a great difference between my poly 910 and my alu 910. you get a lot of heft from your brass
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Mon, 21 January 2019, 13:54:21
      Hi,
      I want get a wkl layout with split backspace. Which plate/pcb  combination do I have to go with?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 13:56:24
      Hi,
      I want get a wkl layout with split backspace. Which plate/pcb  combination do I have to go with?

      You probably want the WKL plate option and then you have to decide if you want the mx/alps pcb or a hotswappable mx plate. either would do for your split backspace.

      someone correct me if i'm wrong
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 21 January 2019, 14:44:09
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?
      I would guess a little less than half as the density of polycarbonate vs aluminum is roughly 1.2 to 2.6

      but at what point is the mass difference unnoticeable? granted I'm no expert but i dont feel a great difference between my poly 910 and my alu 910. you get a lot of heft from your brass

      Don't forget the brass weight will add a fair amount of weight to the whole unitso I would be thinking more along the lines of 2/3rds. I have a PC Kira60 and it still weighs around 1.5kg
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: -musubi on Mon, 21 January 2019, 15:45:22
      Hi senter, can you check my PM for an invoice/order clarification? I believe there was a mistake.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:32:22
      When is the GB end date?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: bengine on Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:57:41
      When is the GB end date?

      How long till this closes? Trying hard to wrangle some money together for this
      The GB opens for 1 week from Jan 16. So it should close on Jan 23?

      Yes.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hsunwoo1221 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:10:53
      Where can I check the layout for the dedicated WKL PC plate?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:36:17
      I just want to verify: I ordered the HHKB layout case, plate, and hotswap PCB. I should be able to have the same exact layout as an HHKB except the spacebar would be 7u, right?

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:37:49
      I just want to verify: I ordered the HHKB layout case, plate, and hotswap PCB. I should be able to have the same exact layout as an HHKB except the spacebar would be 7u, right?

      Thanks!

      yes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Mon, 21 January 2019, 18:52:26
      Hey Senter? I sent a pm btw. Thank you! :D

      I didn't receive any messages from you. Could you send it again?

      Sent it twice for assurance! Thank you  :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hopeye on Mon, 21 January 2019, 21:33:27
      Is it possible to use a universal plate/pcb + hhkb top case and run split spacebar? it doesn't look like it-  I just want to confirm.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TheMastermind on Mon, 21 January 2019, 22:34:59
      Have invoices been sent out yet as I have yet to receive one?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: krazikake on Mon, 21 January 2019, 23:24:28
      joined for a hot swap pc kit :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jaimcat on Tue, 22 January 2019, 00:49:33
      Sent you a pm regarding my order!  :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 22 January 2019, 00:57:54
      Are all those options supposed to be there for the weight? I'm having a hard time imagining a clear PC weight.

      EDIT: After reading again, I'm assuming these are for the leaf shape accessory/logo on the bottom?

      EDIT2: If you can get the whole weight in clear PC, do you have a render or photo of a completely clear PC build? (case, plate, weight, leaf accessory). Just trying to imagine what it would look like.

      Yes. We call it weight but it's basically not. I know it's a little bit confusing. You got the idea.
      I don't have a full clear PC build. I have a full opaque white PC prototype tho. My suggestion is to match the brass weight with the PC case unless you want a travel board.
      Can you elaborate on what you mean with "unless you want a travel case"? Are there any benefits from choosing a non PC weight for traveling?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 22 January 2019, 01:46:01
      Are all those options supposed to be there for the weight? I'm having a hard time imagining a clear PC weight.

      EDIT: After reading again, I'm assuming these are for the leaf shape accessory/logo on the bottom?

      EDIT2: If you can get the whole weight in clear PC, do you have a render or photo of a completely clear PC build? (case, plate, weight, leaf accessory). Just trying to imagine what it would look like.



      Yes. We call it weight but it's basically not. I know it's a little bit confusing. You got the idea.
      I don't have a full clear PC build. I have a full opaque white PC prototype tho. My suggestion is to match the brass weight with the PC case unless you want a travel board.
      Can you elaborate on what you mean with "unless you want a travel case"? Are there any benefits from choosing a non PC weight for traveling?

      I think he meant pc weight + pc case = light keyboard for carrying around
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Frystie on Tue, 22 January 2019, 09:04:27
      Hey, I got in on the order, however, I got the hot-swap PCB (and an extra) with 2 MX universal plates. Will I have to change this to WLK plates to work? Can this be changed?

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Tue, 22 January 2019, 09:20:45
      Have invoices been sent out yet as I have yet to receive one?

      i received and paid mine. it might be in the order that requests were submitted. but idk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: distracteddev on Tue, 22 January 2019, 10:38:25
      Definitely getting a PC and brass kit.

      Two questions,

      1. can I use the universal pcb and plate with the HHKB top?
      2. Could a ďstandardĒ 60% pcb and plate be fitted to the case? Asking mainly for the Boardwalk PCB


      1. Yes
      2. No

      Thanks for the response!  For 1, I would need to use the HHKB bottom row right? I wouldnít be able to get a HHKB case with split spacebar support. Just want to confirm. Thank you!


      Sorry to bump my question, but need this answered before I pay my invoice!

      Also, if itís not possible to do a HHKB top with split spacebar, is it possible to do a WKL top with split space?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Tue, 22 January 2019, 10:46:31
      Based on the layouts pictured in the OP, split is only supported in the 6.25u spacebar configuration. That will not work with hhkb, or wkl.
      Definitely getting a PC and brass kit.

      Two questions,

      1. can I use the universal pcb and plate with the HHKB top?
      2. Could a ďstandardĒ 60% pcb and plate be fitted to the case? Asking mainly for the Boardwalk PCB


      1. Yes
      2. No

      Thanks for the response!  For 1, I would need to use the HHKB bottom row right? I wouldnít be able to get a HHKB case with split spacebar support. Just want to confirm. Thank you!


      Sorry to bump my question, but need this answered before I pay my invoice!

      Also, if itís not possible to do a HHKB top with split spacebar, is it possible to do a WKL top with split space?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Tue, 22 January 2019, 11:22:23
      Submitted my order. Excited for this!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Tue, 22 January 2019, 11:23:59
      Submitted my order. Looking forward to it!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:15:44
      Looking for a match to GMK Nautilus.  Would the yellow color option be a good match?  Was hoping for a Navy Blue  ;D
      Full brass would probably look awesome with Nautilus, but not sure if I can swing that much $ right now.  They're also pretty limited at 10 sets; have all 10 been filled?
      Thanks!

      The list hasn't been finalized but I've already sent out some spots.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:15:53
      Just to verify:

      If I were to order what's below, that means I'd get to have 3 plate + PCB combos (2 MX and 1 Alps)?

      Regular kits: $275 (PC plate, PC weight, Hotswap PCB)
      Extra sandblasted brass weight: $56
      Extra sandblasted brass plate: $45 (WKL)
      Extra aluminum/PC plate: $25 (Alps)
      Extra PCB: $37 (Hotswap)
      Extra PCB: $37 (Universal, for Alps)

      Are Alps plates alu exclusively?
      Is it possible to get a WKL plate that doesn't have the 1u holes on the bottom row? (especially for brass so that I don't see the holes through the clear PC blockers)
      Is the WKL PC plate layout different from the WKL brass plate's layout?
      Also, am I understanding correctly that the option to add extra brass plate/weight is really cheap compared to just upgrading? And how would I go about getting an extra brass weight (assuming I got the regular PC weight with the regular kit)? I ask because I don't see an option on the ordering form.

      Thanks!

      "I'd get to have 3 plate + PCB combos (2 MX and 1 Alps)?"
      -> yes

      "Are Alps plates alu exclusively?"
      -> no

      "Is it possible to get a WKL plate that doesn't have the 1u holes on the bottom row? (especially for brass so that I don't see the holes through the clear PC blockers)"
      -> no for brass

      "Is the WKL PC plate layout different from the WKL brass plate's layout?"
      -> There's a special WKL PC plate which supports 2u BS

      "Also, am I understanding correctly that the option to add extra brass plate/weight is really cheap compared to just upgrading? "
      -> not cheaper apparently. better value imo

      "And how would I go about getting an extra brass weight (assuming I got the regular PC weight with the regular kit)?"
      -> you can write in the last question in the form
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:17:06
      No, the dedicated WKL plate supports 2u backspace and stagged/non-stagged capslock.
      Right forgot to edit that out. But the main takeaway is the bottom row will be like the one I posted right?

      Yes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:18:14
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?

      Aluminum case + aluminum plate + aluminum weight = 1.05kg
      PC case + PC plate + PC weight (light?) = 460 grams
      Brass weight: 650 grams
      Brass plate: 250-300 grams

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:18:53
      Hi senter, can you check my PM for an invoice/order clarification? I believe there was a mistake.

      replied
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:20:57
      Is it possible to use a universal plate/pcb + hhkb top case and run split spacebar? it doesn't look like it-  I just want to confirm.

      Universal PCB + universal plate will support the split spacebar layout shown in OP.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:24:37

      Sorry to bump my question, but need this answered before I pay my invoice!

      Also, if itís not possible to do a HHKB top with split spacebar, is it possible to do a WKL top with split space?

      HHKB and WKL tops won't work with split spacebar.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:39:40
      (https://i.imgur.com/5TC7Geg.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/Rg9loio.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/34nzqQQ.jpg)

      Hope this is helpful for buyers and other GB runners.

      I'm surprised half of the buyers chose clear PC.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: DePulse on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:19:50
      Hey Senter! Already sent the message and an order! :D Hope you read my message first tho :O
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: senter on Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:06:00
      Hey Senter! Already sent the message and an order! :D Hope you read my message first tho :O

      DePulse, I didn't receive your message. Could you send it again?

      It's so weird. It's the 3rd time people saying they sent me messages while I didn't. Is it normal on GH?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: heloitsame on Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:36:11
      How much does the PC vs alu weigh?

      Aluminum case + aluminum plate + aluminum weight = 1.05kg
      PC case + PC plate + PC weight (light?) = 460 grams
      Brass weight: 650 grams
      Brass plate: 250-300 grams

      wait does this mean pc weight is available? also are the plates going to support switch top removal?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: PoochZag on Tue, 22 January 2019, 22:13:34
      I also sent Senter a message, just wanted to post here in case it didn't go through  :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: edasaur on Tue, 22 January 2019, 22:35:41
      is it just the lighting, or does the e red look darker than the ano red from fox 80?

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Mavarina on Tue, 22 January 2019, 23:59:06
      Hi just to make sure the universal plate can work with hhkb case right?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Wed, 23 January 2019, 00:53:58
      Ordered, waiting for my invoice now. :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: bengine on Wed, 23 January 2019, 01:00:35
      Hi just to make sure the universal plate can work with hhkb case right?
      Yes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: dado brat on Wed, 23 January 2019, 04:29:21
      placed and payed order. I am very excited for this ;D

      Will updates come here only or is there a discord server I can join?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Lazylewis on Wed, 23 January 2019, 05:01:14


      Hope this is helpful for buyers and other GB runners.

      I'm surprised half of the buyers chose clear PC.

      That’s becsuse the pics of the clear PC hhkb on the OP look epic.

      I am concerned how mine is going to age though.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: TheMastermind on Wed, 23 January 2019, 07:30:43
      How much would just the pc case weigh?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: PaultheSloth on Wed, 23 January 2019, 08:42:08
      Sent an email regarding my order.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: xef on Wed, 23 January 2019, 09:41:13
      invoice paid, excite
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: DePulse on Wed, 23 January 2019, 09:46:59
      Hey Senter! Already sent the message and an order! :D Hope you read my message first tho :O

      DePulse, I didn't receive your message. Could you send it again?

      It's so weird. It's the 3rd time people saying they sent me messages while I didn't. Is it normal on GH?


      Ohh man. I'm not sure tho. But if you do have a discord, we can talk there just in case you still haven't received my message yet. I'll try again right now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Lazylewis on Wed, 23 January 2019, 10:53:46
      Invoice goes to email ?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:09:35
      Sent a message regarding my invoice and order.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: edasaur on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:16:48
      Replying to let Senter know that I filled out the google doc (~5 - 6 hours ago) and am also wondering if the invoice comes through email...
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: daishan on Wed, 23 January 2019, 11:29:39
      The invoices will pop up on your paypal accounts. Paypal should then notify you via mail, unless you have disabled that.

      Sending out invoices is likely a manual process, so allow for some time for Senter to get around to do that.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:19:40
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: ixixmmx on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:21:56
      Quick question. Are the plates switch top removable? Is there any disadvantages to having a plate that is switch top removable? I'm new to this scene.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:22:21
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:26:09
      Are there 1 set or 2 set of gaskets, above and below the plate?

      Secondly does the PCB support underglow LED strip solder?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:26:52
      Are there 1 set or 2 set of gaskets, above and below the plate?

      Secondly does the PCB support underglow LED solder?

      Gaskets on both top and bottom on front and back
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:27:21
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:29:48
      Quick question. Are the plates switch top removable? Is there any disadvantages to having a plate that is switch top removable? I'm new to this scene.

      Looking at the post, the plate does not support switch top removal.

      Disadvantage are aesthetics and some would argue switch stability but I have never experienced any issues.
      Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:33:04
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Only the WKL or HHKB layout support hotswap so I actually need to correct myself by saying youíll need a 7u spacebar stabilizer. Most 60% layouts use 6.25u but if youíre going with the hotswap youíll need the longer. But yes, otherwise, you can choose polycarbonate for the case, plate, and weight. Youíll need to choose the hhkb or wkl plate depending on which case you decide on.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: etong415 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:35:14
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Only the WKL or HHKB layout support hotswap so I actually need to correct myself by saying youíll need a 7u spacebar stabilizer. Most 60% layouts use 6.25u but if youíre going with the hotswap youíll need the longer. But yes, otherwise, you can choose polycarbonate for the case, plate, and weight. Youíll need to choose the hhkb or wkl plate depending on which case you decide on.
      The Hotswap PCB layout looks like it can support a standard layout w/ the exception of a 7u spacebar though. Doesnít need to omit two bottom row keys like WKL or HHKB layout does


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:37:05
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Only the WKL or HHKB layout support hotswap so I actually need to correct myself by saying youíll need a 7u spacebar stabilizer. Most 60% layouts use 6.25u but if youíre going with the hotswap youíll need the longer. But yes, otherwise, you can choose polycarbonate for the case, plate, and weight. Youíll need to choose the hhkb or wkl plate depending on which case you decide on.
      The Hotswap PCB layout looks like it can support a standard layout w/ the exception of a 7u spacebar though. Doesnít need to omit two bottom row keys like WKL or HHKB layout does


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Thatís correct. I initially misspoke on the spacebar stabilizer. But yeah, you can still do the full layout. Just be mindful of the unit sizes for the bottom row modifiers.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:47:59
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Only the WKL or HHKB layout support hotswap so I actually need to correct myself by saying youíll need a 7u spacebar stabilizer. Most 60% layouts use 6.25u but if youíre going with the hotswap youíll need the longer. But yes, otherwise, you can choose polycarbonate for the case, plate, and weight. Youíll need to choose the hhkb or wkl plate depending on which case you decide on.
      The Hotswap PCB layout looks like it can support a standard layout w/ the exception of a 7u spacebar though. Doesnít need to omit two bottom row keys like WKL or HHKB layout does


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Thatís correct. I initially misspoke on the spacebar stabilizer. But yeah, you can still do the full layout. Just be mindful of the unit sizes for the bottom row modifiers.
      Hotswap pcb only supports 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 bottom row, split right shift, and split backspace (not a total standard layout).
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: ixixmmx on Wed, 23 January 2019, 13:23:13
      Got my order placed. Very excited as this will be my first build.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:15:39
      So Iíve never built a custom board before. I really like the opaque case. What all do I need to order if I want a standard 60% layout with hot-swap switches? Are all hot-swap switches compatible with the board or do I need specific ones?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Youíll need stabilizers. A standard 60% kit will do.
      Switches. Probably get 70. Iíd assume PCB mount switches and worst case you can cutoff the two plastic pins on the bottom.
      Keycaps.

      Youíre done!

      So on the order form, do I just choose clear PC for everything and standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Only the WKL or HHKB layout support hotswap so I actually need to correct myself by saying youíll need a 7u spacebar stabilizer. Most 60% layouts use 6.25u but if youíre going with the hotswap youíll need the longer. But yes, otherwise, you can choose polycarbonate for the case, plate, and weight. Youíll need to choose the hhkb or wkl plate depending on which case you decide on.
      The Hotswap PCB layout looks like it can support a standard layout w/ the exception of a 7u spacebar though. Doesnít need to omit two bottom row keys like WKL or HHKB layout does


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Thatís correct. I initially misspoke on the spacebar stabilizer. But yeah, you can still do the full layout. Just be mindful of the unit sizes for the bottom row modifiers.
      Hotswap pcb only supports 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 bottom row, split right shift, and split backspace (not a total standard layout).

      So I just need to make sure I have the right caps when ordering a set then? Am I right to assume the case depends on the plate layout? Like the standard plate wonít have the little notches like the HHKB board right? Do the other layouts support standard size caps or are all the options for this board like that?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:30:35
      Sorry for the dumb question, but what is the point of the HHKB plate if the universal plate will work with the HHKB case? I am wondering which plate to get if I just want an HHKB style, NON hot swappable board.

      If it matters, I would get PC everything to make it a travel board.

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Choobies on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:35:26
      Quote
      Sorry for the dumb question, but what is the point of the HHKB plate if the universal plate will work with the HHKB case? I am wondering which plate to get if I just want an HHKB style, NON hot swappable board.

      I was wondering the same thing, and I imagine it's because a fixed layout plate is a bit sturdier than the universal plate, with the way the holes hold the switches.  Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, though.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:53:22
      I just realized it's probably so you don't see the switch cutouts if you get the PC case... someone can confirm, but that seems to be it. Your reason sounds right too.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: ixixmmx on Wed, 23 January 2019, 14:56:20
      What software will be needed to program the PCB? I haven't noticed any mention of this in the thread.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 23 January 2019, 15:24:23
      What software will be needed to program the PCB? I haven't noticed any mention of this in the thread.

      32u4, so QMK probably
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Jkshowman on Wed, 23 January 2019, 16:38:52
      Are there any aftermarket PCB's maybe for this?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Wed, 23 January 2019, 16:42:44
      Are there any aftermarket PCB's maybe for this?


      This uses a proprietary PCB. Senter said that the PCBs can be rerun in batches of at least 10, though I can't say how likely it is to be run.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 16:47:04
      What's the cutoff time for this GB? (EST)

      I want to order one but am not entirely sure just what to get yet, hope to fill out the form tonight when I get home from work.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: senter on Wed, 23 January 2019, 16:51:04
      What's the cutoff time for this GB? (EST)

      I want to order one but am not entirely sure just what to get yet, hope to fill out the form tonight when I get home from work.

      8 pm EST.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:01:57

      So I just need to make sure I have the right caps when ordering a set then? Am I right to assume the case depends on the plate layout? Like the standard plate wonít have the little notches like the HHKB board right? Do the other layouts support standard size caps or are all the options for this board like that?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      It would be helpful to define what you consider a "standard" layout and caps to be first :)

      Case and plate layouts are chosen independently, you could get a HHKB plate for a regular layout case if you're a madman.

      Standard plate will not have the HHKB blockers. If you want the typical pok3r style layout your only option is the standard plate.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:10:04

      So I just need to make sure I have the right caps when ordering a set then? Am I right to assume the case depends on the plate layout? Like the standard plate wonít have the little notches like the HHKB board right? Do the other layouts support standard size caps or are all the options for this board like that?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      It would be helpful to define what you consider a "standard" layout and caps to be first :)

      Case and plate layouts are chosen independently, you could get a HHKB plate for a regular layout case if you're a madman.

      Standard plate will not have the HHKB blockers. If you want the typical pok3r style layout your only option is the standard plate.

      Thanks, that clears it up a bit for me. The HHKB layout is not available with a hot swap PCB correct?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:14:44

      So I just need to make sure I have the right caps when ordering a set then? Am I right to assume the case depends on the plate layout? Like the standard plate wonít have the little notches like the HHKB board right? Do the other layouts support standard size caps or are all the options for this board like that?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      It would be helpful to define what you consider a "standard" layout and caps to be first :)

      Case and plate layouts are chosen independently, you could get a HHKB plate for a regular layout case if you're a madman.

      Standard plate will not have the HHKB blockers. If you want the typical pok3r style layout your only option is the standard plate.

      Thanks, that clears it up a bit for me. The HHKB layout is not available with a hot swap PCB correct?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      HHKB layout is supported with the hot swap PCB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Lormania on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:20:16
      Here is to me figuring out what I want to do with my order in the next 1.666666 hours!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:38:45
      I put in my order for PC everything, standard layout, will be a great travel keeb for law school!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: thearctican on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:54:48
      Should I PM for any order confirmations or changes?

      Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 18:59:06
      Just submitted an order but was confused by the weight option. If I chose PC for everything does that mean it will be super light? I don't really want the board moving all around, should I have upgraded to the brass one or does it come with an aluminum plate?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: senter on Wed, 23 January 2019, 19:11:52
      Should I PM for any order confirmations or changes?


      If you need to
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: thearctican on Wed, 23 January 2019, 19:13:13
      Should I PM for any order confirmations or changes?


      If you need to
      Ok, I sent a dm earlier with the PayPal invoice. Just wanted to make sure I selected the right pcb and plate for hotswap.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: senter on Wed, 23 January 2019, 19:16:03
      Just submitted an order but was confused by the weight option. If I chose PC for everything does that mean it will be super light? I don't really want the board moving all around, should I have upgraded to the brass one or does it come with an aluminum plate?

      It will be light.
      It won't move around unless your desktop is very slippery.
      You don't "should" to choose any combinations. It's all about preference.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 19:19:40
      Just submitted an order but was confused by the weight option. If I chose PC for everything does that mean it will be super light? I don't really want the board moving all around, should I have upgraded to the brass one or does it come with an aluminum plate?

      It will be light.
      It won't move around unless your desktop is very slippery.
      You don't "should" to choose any combinations. It's all about preference.

      How do I get the gold plate? Can I change my order?


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: vpr on Wed, 23 January 2019, 19:25:50
      dang, didn't know this was going to end at 8pm EST. I was still thinking about it thought I had a few more hours still.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Wed, 23 January 2019, 20:01:58
      Haven't received an invoice yet. Just want to confirm if order went through. NEED that PC HHKB.  :eek:

      EDIT: Invoice received and paid. Thank you!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Wed, 23 January 2019, 20:59:12
      I haven't received my invoice yet either.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ChickenBear on Wed, 23 January 2019, 21:22:55
      Is the weight shown in the first picture on the GB a PVD Brass weight or is it a PVD Brass weight with gold finish?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Wed, 23 January 2019, 21:46:34
      Is the weight shown in the first picture on the GB a PVD Brass weight or is it a PVD Brass weight with gold finish?

      I don't think there is a difference.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Wed, 23 January 2019, 21:48:16
      Is the weight shown in the first picture on the GB a PVD Brass weight or is it a PVD Brass weight with gold finish?

      I don't think there is a difference.
      Sure there is. That first photo is pvd coated gold finish. Pvd coated brass on its own just protects it from tarnishing. I opted for an unfinished one personally.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ChickenBear on Wed, 23 January 2019, 21:52:34
      Is the weight shown in the first picture on the GB a PVD Brass weight or is it a PVD Brass weight with gold finish?

      I don't think there is a difference.
      Sure there is. That first photo is pvd coated gold finish. Pvd coated brass on its own just protects it from tarnishing. I opted for an unfinished one personally.
      Is there a big difference in looks? What does PVD Brass look like compared to with a gold finish?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Wed, 23 January 2019, 22:00:59
      Is the weight shown in the first picture on the GB a PVD Brass weight or is it a PVD Brass weight with gold finish?

      I don't think there is a difference.
      Sure there is. That first photo is pvd coated gold finish. Pvd coated brass on its own just protects it from tarnishing. I opted for an unfinished one personally.
      Is there a big difference in looks? What does PVD Brass look like compared to with a gold finish?
      Natural brass is not as vibrant as a gold finish. Pvd coating has some flexibility in colors, hence the solver and rose gold finishes available on the full brass kits.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lazylewis on Sat, 26 January 2019, 22:43:08
      Paid. Invoice didnít show up in the PayPal app for some reason but when I logged into PayPal website I saw it. Said due 26th, which was yesterday. That doesnít affect my order does it ?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 January 2019, 01:16:49
      Paid. Invoice didnít show up in the PayPal app for some reason but when I logged into PayPal website I saw it. Said due 26th, which was yesterday. That doesnít affect my order does it ?

      should be fine if it wasn't cancelled
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sun, 27 January 2019, 12:06:34
      I never got an invoice, rip.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:53:03
      Paid. Invoice didnít show up in the PayPal app for some reason but when I logged into PayPal website I saw it. Said due 26th, which was yesterday. That doesnít affect my order does it ?

      Your order is good.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 27 January 2019, 14:53:59
      I never got an invoice, rip.

      You didn't submit an order if you believe you did with this ID in the google form.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Prebeta on Sun, 27 January 2019, 16:38:55
      Thanks for following up with all the PMs Senter <3
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sun, 27 January 2019, 16:47:20
      Should we follow this thread for updates or will they be posted somewhere else?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Sun, 27 January 2019, 19:59:42
      Should we follow this thread for updates or will they be posted somewhere else?
      .
       I second this! Just wanting to know where we can see what's up :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:15:57
      Can anyone help me on what kind of caps I need to be looking for if I opted for the standard hotswap layout? I wasn't thinking about how the cap sizes are different, what would I need to look for in addition to a standard set of caps?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: babyphil on Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:27:01
      Can anyone help me on what kind of caps I need to be looking for if I opted for the standard hotswap layout? I wasn't thinking about how the cap sizes are different, what would I need to look for in addition to a standard set of caps?
      Keyset that supports a winkeyless style layout.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:37:49
      Can anyone help me on what kind of caps I need to be looking for if I opted for the standard hotswap layout? I wasn't thinking about how the cap sizes are different, what would I need to look for in addition to a standard set of caps?
      Keyset that supports a winkeyless style layout.

      I see. If I had got the HHKB layout would a standard set work or would I have to look for different sets as well? I was hoping to use my /dev/tty set on this board but I did not order the WKL options at the time, I only have a Novetouch right now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Choobies on Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:44:41
      Can anyone help me on what kind of caps I need to be looking for if I opted for the standard hotswap layout? I wasn't thinking about how the cap sizes are different, what would I need to look for in addition to a standard set of caps?
      Keyset that supports a winkeyless style layout.

      I see. If I had got the HHKB layout would a standard set work or would I have to look for different sets as well? I was hoping to use my /dev/tty set on this board but I did not order the WKL options at the time, I only have a Novetouch right now.

      You need to make sure you have bottom row keys that fulfill the required HHKB bottom row layout, which is
      1u - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - 1u
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:46:13
      Can anyone help me on what kind of caps I need to be looking for if I opted for the standard hotswap layout? I wasn't thinking about how the cap sizes are different, what would I need to look for in addition to a standard set of caps?
      Keyset that supports a winkeyless style layout.

      I see. If I had got the HHKB layout would a standard set work or would I have to look for different sets as well? I was hoping to use my /dev/tty set on this board but I did not order the WKL options at the time, I only have a Novetouch right now.

      You need to make sure you have a bottom row layout that has the HHKB bottom row layout, which is
      1u - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - 1u

      Gotcha. I didn't actually get the HHKB layout I was just curious if it had the same requirements. I guess I will need to decide on a new set of caps for this board too.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:09:51
      Loved the graphs of everyoneís customizations. They showed me how truly unoriginal I am haha.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:37:32
      Graphs? :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60 (Last one day to order)
      Post by: boog on Thu, 31 January 2019, 19:06:13
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/5TC7Geg.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/Rg9loio.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/34nzqQQ.jpg)


      Hope this is helpful for buyers and other GB runners.

      I'm surprised half of the buyers chose clear PC.

      Sorry, yes 😬 ^^^
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Thu, 31 January 2019, 23:31:13
      Any chance for some measurements of the case? Want to know if my 60% sleeve will fit.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Choobies on Fri, 01 February 2019, 08:28:26
      Any chance for some measurements of the case? Want to know if my 60% sleeve will fit.

      [deleted]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ixixmmx on Fri, 01 February 2019, 15:55:59
      Unfortunately for me, I need to back out of this GB. If anyone is interested in standard layout please PM me and I'll provide the details of my order as well as the price. Not looking to make any money, just get back what I paid for.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DocNoc on Fri, 01 February 2019, 16:09:11
      Unfortunately for me, I need to back out of this GB. If anyone is interested in standard layout please PM me and I'll provide the details of my order as well as the price. Not looking to make any money, just get back what I paid for.
      Shot you a pm, sorry you have to give up your slot :(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ixixmmx on Fri, 01 February 2019, 16:11:06
      Unfortunately for me, I need to back out of this GB. If anyone is interested in standard layout please PM me and I'll provide the details of my order as well as the price. Not looking to make any money, just get back what I paid for.
      Shot you a pm, sorry you have to give up your slot :(
      PM sent.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 01 February 2019, 16:27:06
      I never got an invoice, rip.

      You didn't submit an order if you believe you did with this ID in the google form.

      Huh, I guess I must have ****ed up and and not hit submit or something.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yuppie on Fri, 01 February 2019, 18:26:05
      Was the green from the IC ever made?
       (https://i.imgur.com/kdJYkXr.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 01 February 2019, 19:26:12
      No
      Was the green from the IC ever made?
       
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/kdJYkXr.jpg)

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Sat, 02 February 2019, 03:00:45
      Are there plans for the plate files to be released in case we want to try different materials in the future?


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: garbo on Sat, 02 February 2019, 04:42:37
      Are there plans for the plate files to be released in case we want to try different materials in the future?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      imgur compression and the low resolution make things a little more awkward but it's still quite easy to trace a vector from the plate layout images in the OP, if it comes to that
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 02 February 2019, 07:31:28
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 04 February 2019, 14:43:25
      I never got an invoice, rip.

      You didn't submit an order if you believe you did with this ID in the google form.

      Edit: Nevermind. Just saw the invoice. Thank you, sir!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DocNoc on Mon, 04 February 2019, 20:52:59
      Pm'd you Senter about taking over ixixmmx's slot
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mmontess on Tue, 05 February 2019, 09:08:18
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Topre boards are tactile, so I would recommend trying out some nice tactile switches. Personally I love zeal v2s and Holy Pandas (will probably be easy to find some once they ship from Massdrop). As far as stabs go, GMK screw in stabs are usually the best bang for your buck. Other people swear by zeal stabs, but they are quite a bit pricier. Just MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THEM. There are plenty of stab lubing guides out there, but it will give your board a much better feel.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 09:11:55
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Topre boards are tactile, so I would recommend trying out some nice tactile switches. Personally I love zeal v2s and Holy Pandas (will probably be easy to find some once they ship from Massdrop). As far as stabs go, GMK screw in stabs are usually the best bang for your buck. Other people swear by zeal stabs, but they are quite a bit pricier. Just MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THEM. There are plenty of stab lubing guides out there, but it will give your board a much better feel.

      Thanks for the suggestions. I see the Zeal V2ís being mentioned a lot, I might try those. From what I can tell, any switch will work on the hot swap board right?


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Tue, 05 February 2019, 10:02:02
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?

      I would suggest Zilent 62g v2 switches.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 11:26:09
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Topre boards are tactile, so I would recommend trying out some nice tactile switches. Personally I love zeal v2s and Holy Pandas (will probably be easy to find some once they ship from Massdrop). As far as stabs go, GMK screw in stabs are usually the best bang for your buck. Other people swear by zeal stabs, but they are quite a bit pricier. Just MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THEM. There are plenty of stab lubing guides out there, but it will give your board a much better feel.

      Thanks for the suggestions. I see the Zeal V2ís being mentioned a lot, I might try those. From what I can tell, any switch will work on the hot swap board right?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      As long as the hot swap PCB has the pinholes for the legs on a PCB mount switch, it should work with any MX style switch
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 13:17:15
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


      Topre boards are tactile, so I would recommend trying out some nice tactile switches. Personally I love zeal v2s and Holy Pandas (will probably be easy to find some once they ship from Massdrop). As far as stabs go, GMK screw in stabs are usually the best bang for your buck. Other people swear by zeal stabs, but they are quite a bit pricier. Just MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THEM. There are plenty of stab lubing guides out there, but it will give your board a much better feel.

      Thanks for the suggestions. I see the Zeal V2ís being mentioned a lot, I might try those. From what I can tell, any switch will work on the hot swap board right?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      As long as the hot swap PCB has the pinholes for the legs on a PCB mount switch, it should work with any MX style switch

      Got it, thanks. I am not sure if this PCB will have the pinholes or not.
      Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 15:04:07
      Can anyone suggest some good hot swap switches? This is my first custom build and Iím not sure where to start. My current board is a Novatouch and I love the way that feels, anything close to that in the hot swap variety? Also, what stabs are recommended?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      If it doesn't have the pin holes you can just clip off the legs on the PCB mount switches and they'll work! I wouldn't worry too much about switch compatibility, as long as they're MX-style switches


      Topre boards are tactile, so I would recommend trying out some nice tactile switches. Personally I love zeal v2s and Holy Pandas (will probably be easy to find some once they ship from Massdrop). As far as stabs go, GMK screw in stabs are usually the best bang for your buck. Other people swear by zeal stabs, but they are quite a bit pricier. Just MAKE SURE YOU LUBE THEM. There are plenty of stab lubing guides out there, but it will give your board a much better feel.

      Thanks for the suggestions. I see the Zeal V2ís being mentioned a lot, I might try those. From what I can tell, any switch will work on the hot swap board right?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      As long as the hot swap PCB has the pinholes for the legs on a PCB mount switch, it should work with any MX style switch

      Got it, thanks. I am not sure if this PCB will have the pinholes or not.
      You can always just clip the legs off. I wouldnít worry too much about switch compatibility
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: otanishock on Wed, 06 February 2019, 07:53:45
      [attach=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 06 February 2019, 07:54:54
      (Attachment Link)

      I hear ya, I regret getting the standard layout and not the HHKB now. Should have bought both!


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: 0sirisTV on Wed, 06 February 2019, 12:34:15
      If anyone is looking to sell their spot please PM me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ixixmmx on Wed, 06 February 2019, 17:07:46
      Senter, I PMíd you. Please transfer my slot to DocNoc. Thank you.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 February 2019, 21:47:26
      (Attachment Link)

      huge mood
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 06 February 2019, 21:51:07
      Found a few more shots of our beloved
       https://m.zfrontier.com/post/detail/11486 (https://m.zfrontier.com/post/detail/11486)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 06 February 2019, 22:43:41
      I already regret going standard top and not WKL.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 06 February 2019, 22:46:40
      I already regret going standard top and not WKL.

      Yeah seeing only images of the WKL versions has me thinking standard wonít be as nice. I went with PC though and donít like seeing the plate underneath, thatís why I went with standard.


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: pentawater on Thu, 07 February 2019, 06:31:16
      Regret not jumping in!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Fri, 08 February 2019, 12:20:52
      Gotta ask. I heard some mention about a numpad. Definitely would love a numpad that matches the keyboard. Any update on how that is going? I'm sure you're busy with the GB so it's totally cool if the answer is after the GB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Sat, 09 February 2019, 11:52:26
      I've been asking the same. they said it would be 6 rows, but there would only be one button at the top.

      then went on to say that the design had not been finalized.


      I REALLY want a full 24 key numpad friend for this board. FULL 6 X 4 rows is what I need
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Mon, 11 February 2019, 02:28:05
      I've been asking the same. they said it would be 6 rows, but there would only be one button at the top.

      then went on to say that the design had not been finalized.


      I REALLY want a full 24 key numpad friend for this board. FULL 6 X 4 rows is what I need

      I'd honestly be fine with a 5x4, but I'm guessing that would look small next to the board so 6x4 would work better?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Mon, 11 February 2019, 15:38:33
      But the Leaf60 is only 5 rows. How would a 5 row numpad look small?  I think 5 row is the way to go. That 6th row is always a challenge to fill with relevant caps.
      I've been asking the same. they said it would be 6 rows, but there would only be one button at the top.

      then went on to say that the design had not been finalized.


      I REALLY want a full 24 key numpad friend for this board. FULL 6 X 4 rows is what I need

      I'd honestly be fine with a 5x4, but I'm guessing that would look small next to the board so 6x4 would work better?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Mon, 11 February 2019, 18:02:08
      I've gotten SUPER used to my 6th row on the numpad, I use it for esc, backspace, delete, and printscreen, EVERY. DAY.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: metalliccharles on Tue, 12 February 2019, 10:55:56
      Looking to sell mine. PC Regular Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 15:00:20
      Reading this review of the TGR-910RE has me a bit worried about the PC case:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/

      Anyone know if these issues were raised in the IC and addressed by Senter?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Tue, 12 February 2019, 15:11:44
      Reading this review of the TGR-910RE has me a bit worried about the PC case:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/

      Anyone know if these issues were raised in the IC and addressed by Senter?
      I would expect those kinds of problems with a polycarbonate case. Discontinuity can only *REALLY* be sorted out if you machine it all from the same block (unibody) or take EXTREME care in manufacture of the separate parts. Warping, visual differences between units (and same-unit parts), finish differences, etc. are all side-effects of using a less stalwart material than the common metals we see.

      All reasons I won't buy PC multi-part cases. A polycarb Tofu or Klippe? Sure. Not for builds like this, though. Not yet.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 15:16:23
      Reading this review of the TGR-910RE has me a bit worried about the PC case:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/

      Anyone know if these issues were raised in the IC and addressed by Senter?
      I would expect those kinds of problems with a polycarbonate case. Discontinuity can only *REALLY* be sorted out if you machine it all from the same block (unibody) or take EXTREME care in manufacture of the separate parts. Warping, visual differences between units (and same-unit parts), finish differences, etc. are all side-effects of using a less stalwart material than the common metals we see.

      All reasons I won't buy PC multi-part cases. A polycarb Tofu or Klippe? Sure. Not for builds like this, though. Not yet.

      Well ****...
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 12 February 2019, 16:25:17
      Reading this review of the TGR-910RE has me a bit worried about the PC case:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/

      Anyone know if these issues were raised in the IC and addressed by Senter?

      I have a poly RE and have literally 0 complaints about the said board. It is actually my current favorite among my 20-ish boards  :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:22:25
      Believing brian lee in 2k19 lmao, that's not even his board.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:43:35
      Believing brian lee in 2k19 lmao, that's not even his board.

      I don't know anything about that guy, is he not credible or something?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Tue, 12 February 2019, 20:34:08
      Believing brian lee in 2k19 lmao, that's not even his board.

      I don't know anything about that guy, is he not credible or something?

      I like his reviews and blog a lot, but I think he got a bit of hate in the community for this post:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2019/01/11/opinion-the-state-of-keyboard-design/
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Tue, 12 February 2019, 22:11:15
      Believing brian lee in 2k19 lmao, that's not even his board.

      I don't know anything about that guy, is he not credible or something?

      I like his reviews and blog a lot, but I think he got a bit of hate in the community for this post:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2019/01/11/opinion-the-state-of-keyboard-design/

      He probably got a bit frustrated with the dry spell we had there for a while. Took a bit before there was something new I wanted to buy into. The Grid 600 broke that spell for me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Wed, 13 February 2019, 00:24:59
      I purchased a clear polycarb HHKB top - would anyone with clear pc WKL like to trade? pm me here or on reddit u/kwy0
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Thu, 14 February 2019, 16:01:00
      I read this as there will be extra Aluminum parts.

      So if we buy the base option just to secure a board during the preorder, we can always go back (within a reasonable amount of time) after the GB and buy the upgrades?


      Yes, there will be leftover parts for sure.

      Senter,

      Hey, I was curious about the extra parts you had mentioned above. Would you happen to have any extra hotswap PCBs that would work with my HHKB layout? If so I would like to know if I could add one to my order if we can do that.

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Fri, 15 February 2019, 10:17:06
      Believing brian lee in 2k19 lmao, that's not even his board.

      I don't know anything about that guy, is he not credible or something?

      I like his reviews and blog a lot, but I think he got a bit of hate in the community for this post:

      https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2019/01/11/opinion-the-state-of-keyboard-design/

      He probably got a bit frustrated with the dry spell we had there for a while. Took a bit before there was something new I wanted to buy into. The Grid 600 broke that spell for me.

      my polycarb 910 is probably my favorite board as well out of the 6 i own.
      other boards being
      alice, gray 910, hhkb jp, hhkb, keycult 1/60 brass edition
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 18 February 2019, 07:30:51

      Senter,

      Hey, I was curious about the extra parts you had mentioned above. Would you happen to have any extra hotswap PCBs that would work with my HHKB layout? If so I would like to know if I could add one to my order if we can do that.

      Thanks!

      Yes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Mon, 18 February 2019, 10:16:45

      Senter,

      Hey, I was curious about the extra parts you had mentioned above. Would you happen to have any extra hotswap PCBs that would work with my HHKB layout? If so I would like to know if I could add one to my order if we can do that.

      Thanks!

      Yes

      How would I go about doing that? I would ask in DM, but it doesnít seem to be going through anymore.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Minterly on Mon, 18 February 2019, 19:20:27
      If there are enough leftover parts for a complete kit... I'm interested :>
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 23 February 2019, 11:48:13
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PoochZag on Sat, 23 February 2019, 12:05:04
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 23 February 2019, 12:42:53
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB

      Gotcha. So if I got the normal layout with hot swap PCB Iím out of luck for that standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:34:31
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB

      Gotcha. So if I got the normal layout with hot swap PCB Iím out of luck for that standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Hotswap PCB doesn't support the regular ANSI layout. I can swap the PCB for you if you want.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:35:53
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB

      Gotcha. So if I got the normal layout with hot swap PCB Iím out of luck for that standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Hotswap PCB doesn't support the regular ANSI layout. I can swap the PCB for you if you want.

      That would be great, thanks! I will just learn to solder I guess.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:38:56
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB

      Gotcha. So if I got the normal layout with hot swap PCB Iím out of luck for that standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Hotswap PCB doesn't support the regular ANSI layout. I can swap the PCB for you if you want.

      That would be great, thanks! I will just learn to solder I guess.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Change confirmed.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:40:07
      Can anyone who ordered the hotswap plate help me out. I am trying to find a set of caps to go with this board but it seems like this layout is going to be a hard one to find something compatible. I am interested in getting this kit to match the /dev/tty set I have on my Novatouch but it doesn't seem like it has the keys needed to fit that layout. If I went with the standard non-hotswap plate/PCB would it just fit a normal set of keys like I've highlighted in the image below?

      (Attachment Link)

      Yup, what you have highlighted is a standard ANSI layout and you would be able to use that layout with the universal plate and normal PCB

      Gotcha. So if I got the normal layout with hot swap PCB Iím out of luck for that standard layout?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Hotswap PCB doesn't support the regular ANSI layout. I can swap the PCB for you if you want.

      That would be great, thanks! I will just learn to solder I guess.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Change confirmed.

      Do I need to change the plate too?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sat, 23 February 2019, 14:49:39

      Do I need to change the plate too?


      No worries. Your plate option was correct.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: F2F4 on Sun, 24 February 2019, 21:59:03
      Anyone selling their spots?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Tue, 26 February 2019, 00:45:25
      any updates on manu?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lukelex on Wed, 27 February 2019, 14:59:21
      I'm looking for a spot. HMU if you wanna get rid of yours. Got one
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: undecidedshark on Thu, 28 February 2019, 10:40:38
      I'm looking for a spot. HMU if you wanna get rid of yours.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fublamchu on Thu, 28 February 2019, 10:43:05
      HMU if youíve got a spot :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Thu, 28 February 2019, 11:37:17
      @senter, would you happen to know if there is clearance between the PCB and the bottom case for a sheet of sorbothane? And if so, how thick?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 01 March 2019, 15:03:44
      @senter, would you happen to know if there is clearance between the PCB and the bottom case for a sheet of sorbothane? And if so, how thick?

      Sure. It's around 2.4mm.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 01 March 2019, 15:07:03
      (https://i.imgur.com/4h2U6xH.jpg)

      The prototypes of two versions of PCBs have all been finished. I'm going to place the final order. The final version will be in matte black color instead of green.

      The cases are still under manufacturing.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Fri, 01 March 2019, 15:09:16

      The prototypes of two versions of PCBs have all been finished. I'm going to place the final order. The final version will be in matte black color instead of green.

      The cases are still under manufacturing.

      This is great news! Thanks Senter!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Fri, 01 March 2019, 17:37:22
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/4h2U6xH.jpg)


      The prototypes of two versions of PCBs have all been finished. I'm going to place the final order. The final version will be in matte black color instead of green.

      The cases are still under manufacturing.
      looks fantastic, thank you for the update senter! :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 01 March 2019, 22:20:42
      Saw the bottom PBC and got worried when I saw north facing LEDs, but then realized it was fixed layout (hotswap)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Makish on Sun, 03 March 2019, 19:44:28
      Looking for a spot as well, HMU pls <3
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gnhuy91 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 08:46:46
      If anyone got a PC WKL and would like to sell/trade with my eWhite WKL, HMU
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: evoluchanel on Wed, 06 March 2019, 00:50:16
      Sent a pm for an address change
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Mon, 11 March 2019, 13:11:24
      Any news / updates?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 18:55:36
      If anyone has a WKL PC and has decided they'd prefer a full PC, HMU. haha.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 18 March 2019, 11:46:08
      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gnhuy91 on Tue, 19 March 2019, 23:44:51
      If anyone want to let go of their WKL PC, HMU. (can also trade with my ewhite WKL)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 20 March 2019, 05:18:12
      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Wed, 20 March 2019, 05:47:30


      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      I think april is ETA for all customers.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Wed, 20 March 2019, 07:29:24


      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      I think april is ETA for all customers.

      This
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: bengine on Wed, 20 March 2019, 07:32:59


      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      I think april is ETA for all customers.

      This
      Mid April or End April?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:37:09


      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      I think april is ETA for all customers.

      This
      Mid April or End April?
      Yes.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Wed, 20 March 2019, 12:46:06


      Senter, do you have any update on the ETA?

      什么时候能发货?

      April. for cn orders
      I think april is ETA for all customers.

      This
      Mid April or End April?

      Iím going with May, and being pleasantly surprised with anything earlier
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:14:54
      Current progress:


      Right now everything is going smoothly as expected. QC may take longer time than before as we get more orders this time. We won't rush it tho. The original ETA still looks good to me atm.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:16:40
      Current progress:

      • CNC: Top cases and plates are all finished. Bottom cases and weights are still under manufacturing. All parts should be finished by the end of this month or early April.
      • Finishes (sandblasting, E-coating, anodizing, PVD, MAO): will start after CNC are finished. The finishes will be applied in 4 different factories in parallel.
      • PCB: PCBs were a little delayed because I was considering to change the material to black core FR4 which is popular. I decide not to finally in case it will bottleneck the whole process.

      Right now everything is going smoothly as expected. QC may take longer time than before as we get more orders this time. We won't rush it tho. The original ETA still looks good to me atm.
      Thanks for the update, canít wait for it to ship


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:53:23
      Current progress:

      • CNC: Top cases and plates are all finished. Bottom cases and weights are still under manufacturing. All parts should be finished by the end of this month or early April.
      • Finishes (sandblasting, E-coating, anodizing, PVD, MAO): will start after CNC are finished. The finishes will be applied in 4 different factories in parallel.
      • PCB: PCBs were a little delayed because I was considering to change the material to black core FR4 which is popular. I decide not to finally in case it will bottleneck the whole process.

      Right now everything is going smoothly as expected. QC may take longer time than before as we get more orders this time. We won't rush it tho. The original ETA still looks good to me atm.

      No reason to rush Senter. Thanks for the update!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Fri, 22 March 2019, 21:05:52
      What color will the PCB be?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TheMastermind on Sat, 23 March 2019, 00:03:34
      What color will the PCB be?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      I don't think I'm 100% certain, but I think senter said yellow.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Sat, 23 March 2019, 06:15:59
      Current progress:

      • CNC: Top cases and plates are all finished. Bottom cases and weights are still under manufacturing. All parts should be finished by the end of this month or early April.
      • Finishes (sandblasting, E-coating, anodizing, PVD, MAO): will start after CNC are finished. The finishes will be applied in 4 different factories in parallel.
      • PCB: PCBs were a little delayed because I was considering to change the material to black core FR4 which is popular. I decide not to finally in case it will bottleneck the whole process.

      Right now everything is going smoothly as expected. QC may take longer time than before as we get more orders this time. We won't rush it tho. The original ETA still looks good to me atm.
      Sounds good, thanks for the update!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Sat, 23 March 2019, 08:25:10
      Will it be possible to buy an additional pcb even after the gb has ended?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 23 March 2019, 09:24:15
      He has mentioned before that there will be a few extras of items.
      Will it be possible to buy an additional pcb even after the gb has ended?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Sat, 23 March 2019, 10:04:16
      He has mentioned before that there will be a few extras of items.
      Will it be possible to buy an additional pcb even after the gb has ended?
      Oh good. I'll want to snag another plate and pcb then.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Sat, 23 March 2019, 11:32:33
      He has mentioned before that there will be a few extras of items.
      Will it be possible to buy an additional pcb even after the gb has ended?
      Oh good. I'll want to snag another plate and pcb then.

      Same here. Also, the final PCBS will be green I assume right.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 23 March 2019, 19:37:49
      He has mentioned before that there will be a few extras of items.
      Will it be possible to buy an additional pcb even after the gb has ended?
      Oh good. I'll want to snag another plate and pcb then.

      Same here. Also, the final PCBS will be green I assume right.
      From what I remember it will be black PCB.

      I hope we can order extra parts before the shipping of the kit to make it 1 shipping fee only.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 09:33:13
      if anyone wants to swap their wkl poly for a full size poly lmk!

      :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:19:54
      if anyone wants to swap their wkl poly for a full size poly lmk!

      :D

      It seems like their are quite a few of us that regret our no blocker poly choice lol
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 27 March 2019, 13:48:44
      I really hope there is an R2 of this :(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:55:19
      Blocker boi here. Can confirm... no ragrets
      if anyone wants to swap their wkl poly for a full size poly lmk!

      :D

      It seems like their are quite a few of us that regret our no blocker poly choice lol
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: patch on Thu, 28 March 2019, 03:52:59

      Blocker boi here. Can confirm... no ragrets
      if anyone wants to swap their wkl poly for a full size poly lmk!

      :D

      It seems like their are quite a few of us that regret our no blocker poly choice lol


      team wkl represent
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: evoluchanel on Sat, 30 March 2019, 10:15:55
      Possibly WTT my standard pc case for E black HHKB/WKL. My discord is Evoluchanel#4957
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mikenogo on Sat, 30 March 2019, 12:55:14

      Blocker boi here. Can confirm... no ragrets
      if anyone wants to swap their wkl poly for a full size poly lmk!

      :D

      It seems like their are quite a few of us that regret our no blocker poly choice lol


      team wkl represent

      WKL ✊
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 30 March 2019, 13:04:21
      I would have gone blocker but I wasn't 100% sure the plate would be cut to match the case, I didn't want to see the plate where the blocker was.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aznguyen316 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 09:03:45
      Ugh so nice.  Wish I got in on this..
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Von Steve on Fri, 05 April 2019, 14:23:01
      yeah same here... sigh
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Fri, 05 April 2019, 22:48:04
      Wonder if weíre still on schedule for april  ;D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: meiosis on Fri, 05 April 2019, 22:52:55
      Wonder if weíre still on schedule for april  ;D
      U got enough stuff coming pls

      Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Fri, 05 April 2019, 23:45:11
      Gonna be hilarious if I get kyuu, unikorn, and leaf in the mail on the same day...
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Sat, 06 April 2019, 09:31:45
      Yes very funny

      Just the thought of it...  :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:49:42
      so they'll be staying green? Or are they just a different black scheme?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 10 April 2019, 08:02:24
      If anyone wants to sell their spot/board/extras, I am looking for a white(any) or poly case with standard or hhkb top  :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: jagger27 on Wed, 10 April 2019, 13:10:18
      Sad I missed out on this one.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Wed, 10 April 2019, 13:24:49
      Sad I missed out on this one.

      Senter said there would most likely be extras after everything goes out, just wait for it :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MOON on Wed, 10 April 2019, 23:48:55
      I will 100% buy a PC Clear with Brass plate from anyone here :D

      So sad I missed this.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dMarvb on Thu, 11 April 2019, 04:05:08
      If someone want to sell a pc spot. I would take :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 12:40:12
      Do we think April is still happening?  :-X
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:07:54
      Do we think April is still happening?  :-X

      Was April the initial tentative delivery date? I don't even remember what it was supposed to be.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: krazikake on Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:28:34
      how can I add an extra hotswap pcb and aluminum plate to my order?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: orim23 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:32:08
      how can I add an extra hotswap pcb and aluminum plate to my order?
      You cant. I wanted to add an extra PCB to my order and asked senter. PCBs are apparently all produced and any extras he has he wants to keep for issues/mishaps.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Thu, 11 April 2019, 14:32:26
      Do we think April is still happening?  :-X

      Was April the initial tentative delivery date? I don't even remember what it was supposed to be.

      Current progress:

      • CNC: Top cases and plates are all finished. Bottom cases and weights are still under manufacturing. All parts should be finished by the end of this month or early April.
      • Finishes (sandblasting, E-coating, anodizing, PVD, MAO): will start after CNC are finished. The finishes will be applied in 4 different factories in parallel.
      • PCB: PCBs were a little delayed because I was considering to change the material to black core FR4 which is popular. I decide not to finally in case it will bottleneck the whole process.

      Right now everything is going smoothly as expected. QC may take longer time than before as we get more orders this time. We won't rush it tho. The original ETA still looks good to me atm.

      /shrug

      Been ~three weeks since the last update.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Thu, 11 April 2019, 15:55:49
      Next update is probably gonna be soon. I think april is still possible.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 18:24:41
      Do we think April is still happening?  :-X

      Was April the initial tentative delivery date? I don't even remember what it was supposed to be.
      The original post said shipping in April, so that can mean delivery is some time in May


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Thu, 11 April 2019, 18:42:30
      Do we think April is still happening?  :-X

      Was April the initial tentative delivery date? I don't even remember what it was supposed to be.
      The original post said shipping in April, so that can mean delivery is some time in May


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      I've got faith in senter, but practically speaking, it's not helpful to speculate on when he will update us or what the status is. 

      There are tons of other GB's where previous manu's / runners all of a sudden produced terrible products...

      We will get updates when we get updates.  :p
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Mon, 15 April 2019, 10:44:15
      -----------UPDATE: SOLD TO COOLBEANZ-------------


      Looking to sell my spot for the amount I paid.

      Here's the specs that I bought.

      Clear PC / Regular layout / clear pc plate / clear pc weight

      The total amount I paid was $288.75. 

      I can send a picture of my paid invoice via PM. I don't have much post history here, but on reddit I am u/solarin88, and I have a few successful trades on r/mechmarket. Feel free to PM me there instead.

      Slava
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Coolbeanz on Mon, 15 April 2019, 11:24:05
      Looking to sell my spot for the amount I paid.

      Here's the specs that I bought.

      Clear PC / Regular layout / clear pc plate / clear pc weight

      The total amount I paid was $288.75. 

      I can send a picture of my paid invoice via PM. I don't have much post history here, but on reddit I am u/solarin88, and I have a few successful trades on r/mechmarket. Feel free to PM me there instead.

      Slava

      Pm'ed on reddit! thanks.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lormania on Mon, 15 April 2019, 20:18:17
      I forgot to get an extra PCB so if anyone wants to sell me theirs please let me know
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Tue, 16 April 2019, 15:30:48
      Looking to transfer my spot:

      Leaf 60 keyboard
      PC Regular Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight



      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Nostril on Wed, 17 April 2019, 15:51:04
      Looking to transfer my spot:

      Leaf 60 keyboard
      PC Regular Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight

      Sent you a PM!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ChickenBear on Wed, 17 April 2019, 16:21:25
      Any updates on shipping?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Wed, 17 April 2019, 19:18:04
      Any updates on shipping?
      I asked senter yesterday on QQ (chinese app), he said the boards were anodising, and if everything goes well, the boards will be shipping at the end of this month
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 19 April 2019, 07:55:09
      Any updates on shipping?
      I asked senter yesterday on QQ (chinese app), he said the boards were anodising, and if everything goes well, the boards will be shipping at the end of this month

      Thatís good news!  ;D :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Master_Zebra on Sat, 20 April 2019, 16:33:22
      Looking to buy a spot. Full PC either black or clear, layout does not matter (universal, HHKB or WKL) but only MX, no ALPS. You can contact me here or on discord MasterZebra#7840
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: evoluchanel on Sat, 20 April 2019, 21:23:22
      Looking to transfer my spot. Standard PC with PVD brass plate and weight

      (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241368070055133185/569346475885330432/leaf60.png)

      Most accessible on discord: evoluchanel#4975


      EDIT: he gone
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Mattlovskeys on Sat, 20 April 2019, 21:30:45
      Looking to buy the standard edition. Please contact me on geek-hack or email matt.mcdowall77@gmail.com
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Sun, 21 April 2019, 12:33:07
      Looking to buy someone's spot for this. Sad I missed out.

      HHKB layout, matte clear PC, brass weight, brass weight is the ideal build for me.

      Thanks for your time.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Sun, 21 April 2019, 22:42:17
      If there are any extra brass weights available, I would love to add or replace the PC one in my order. Much appreciated !
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Blanki3 on Mon, 22 April 2019, 12:41:50
      Looking to transfer my spot. Standard PC with PVD brass plate and weight

      Show Image
      (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241368070055133185/569346475885330432/leaf60.png)


      Most accessible on discord: evoluchanel#4975

      Pm!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Blanki3 on Mon, 22 April 2019, 22:10:09
      Looking to purchase a spot from someone!

      Leaf 60 keyboard
      PC Regular Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Wed, 24 April 2019, 15:07:38
      Thank you!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:52:29
      Update:

      (https://i.imgur.com/geRlNwP.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/lPU33Zs.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/NDT1AVP.jpg)

      Production has all been finished.

      TODO: QC and shipping.

      The shipping fee will be invoiced soon.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:54:31
      Update:

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/geRlNwP.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/lPU33Zs.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NDT1AVP.jpg)


      Production has all been finished.

      TODO: QC and shipping.

      The shipping fee will be invoiced soon.

      Amazing! This is moving along so smoothly. Thanks for the update and canít wait to get mine.

      Also, now we can move on to Leaf Numpad?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:57:29
      Wow that was fast! Cant wait. Also, that purple looks really nice!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Fri, 26 April 2019, 12:03:54
      Update:

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/geRlNwP.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/lPU33Zs.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NDT1AVP.jpg)


      Production has all been finished.

      TODO: QC and shipping.

      The shipping fee will be invoiced soon.
      Is that red the E-RED?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 26 April 2019, 12:43:26
      Is that red the E-RED?

      No, that's anodizing red in the photo
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Fri, 26 April 2019, 14:28:47
      Update:

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/geRlNwP.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/lPU33Zs.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NDT1AVP.jpg)


      Production has all been finished.

      TODO: QC and shipping.

      The shipping fee will be invoiced soon.
      yaaayyyy, i'm so incredibly excited!!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Depresso-the-clown on Fri, 26 April 2019, 15:39:13
      Any way to get an extra PCB and plate at this point? I'd like to add a HHKB black PC half plate to my order lol
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 26 April 2019, 18:57:57
      Wow these are looking great!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Fri, 26 April 2019, 19:29:22
      Update:

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/geRlNwP.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/lPU33Zs.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NDT1AVP.jpg)


      Production has all been finished.

      TODO: QC and shipping.

      The shipping fee will be invoiced soon.
      Very excited! Is it possible to post a list of expected shipping times to each continent after the invoice has been paid?


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: JohnWest on Sat, 27 April 2019, 00:01:58
      Let me know if anyone wants to sell their purple HHKB layout spot :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Sat, 27 April 2019, 03:52:31
      Omg, would love to see the MAO white!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nug on Sat, 27 April 2019, 06:40:23
      Is the QMK code for the PCB available anywhere?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:38:58
      Is the QMK code for the PCB available anywhere?

      I'm also looking for this!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lazylewis on Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:46:31
      *Update : order has been sold   


      how do you sell your order? I'm looking to sell :

      Leaf 60 keyboard
      PC HHKB Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight

      for price paid which was $400.05 USD



      I still really want the keyboard but my financial circumstance have change and not sure I should've bought it in the first place lol.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: xosk on Sat, 27 April 2019, 23:51:18
      how do you sell your order? I'm looking to sell :

      Leaf 60 keyboard
      PC HHKB Layout/ PVD brass plate,PVD brass weight

      for price paid which was $400.05 USD



      I still really want the keyboard but my financial circumstance have change and not sure I should've bought it in the first place lol.

      I'll buy!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lazylewis on Sun, 28 April 2019, 01:06:04
      PM’d
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rooney on Sun, 28 April 2019, 03:53:16
      Looking to buy a spot if possible?
      Looking for:
      Regular Layout
      Purple case
      PVD brass plate
      PVD brass weight

      Discord: Rooney#3200
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Mon, 29 April 2019, 15:03:06
      If anyone has a PC HHKB layout, with brass plate and and weight, I would really like to buy the spot off them! Thank you!

      I'm under /u/cepate11 on reddit, and Brohemoth#9876 on Discord.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: t0ch on Wed, 01 May 2019, 12:58:08
      Boards look great! Can't wait!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Wed, 01 May 2019, 19:51:16
      Iím looking to buy a PC or purple in WKL spot, pm me here or on discord (enjoy#3695) if youíre willing to sell your spot, thank youuuu :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: undecidedshark on Thu, 02 May 2019, 06:06:41
      Iím looking to buy a PC or black in WKL spot, pm me here but most accessible on discord (Undecided Shark#8230) if youíre willing to sell your spot, thank you:thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:21:25
      Paid my shipping invoice!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:22:49
      Paid my shipping invoice!

      It begins  ;D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:26:11
      Paid my shipping invoice!

      This thing is really moving fast. Hats off to the GB runner.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ptiede on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:28:42
      Paid my invoice as well! Senter always runs such smooth group buys.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: edasaur on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:29:58
      I'm assuming that shipping invoices have just started going out and that I should receive mine soon? 

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Thu, 02 May 2019, 11:37:35
      I'm assuming that shipping invoices have just started going out and that I should receive mine soon? 

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      I'm awaiting my invoice, too.  I'd give it a week or so, then ask about it. 
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Thu, 02 May 2019, 12:24:06
      I'm assuming that shipping invoices have just started going out and that I should receive mine soon? 

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      I'm awaiting my invoice, too.  I'd give it a week or so, then ask about it.

      Invoice received and paid.  Hype train leaving the station in 5.... 4....
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Thu, 02 May 2019, 15:20:42
      Shipping paid as well!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Thu, 02 May 2019, 15:21:38
      Still waiting for my invoice :D Excited!!!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Thu, 02 May 2019, 16:41:56
      Crazy that out of all the boards I bought over the past year, this was the last one purchased and yet the first being delivered.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Thu, 02 May 2019, 18:40:46
      Senter, you are crazy fast on fulfilling GBs! Paid for my invoice.  :thumb:

      Would like to ask, how much will be declared in customs? And what shipping service will be used?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Thu, 02 May 2019, 19:37:59
      Senter, you are crazy fast on fulfilling GBs! Paid for my invoice.  :thumb:

      Would like to ask, how much will be declared in customs? And what shipping service will be used?

      +1 on the info on declaration and shipping courier to be used. I hope it's under declared  :(

      Still waiting on my invoice tho  :eek: eggzoited
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Thu, 02 May 2019, 21:22:07
      Any possibility of extras going on sale?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 02 May 2019, 22:58:45
      Wow, the speed of this GB is very impressive. Haven't got my invoice yet, but excited to get this in my possession.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 03 May 2019, 07:10:56
      Not sure if we need to say something here, but I see others doing it sooo, I am awaiting an invoice. Looking forward to it!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Fri, 03 May 2019, 09:37:46
      (https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U)
      https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U

      this was posted in the fox labs QQ group chat.

      thought i'd post it here too.

      excited for my board!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 03 May 2019, 09:50:48
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U)

      https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U

      this was posted in the fox labs QQ group chat.

      thought i'd post it here too.

      excited for my board!!

      Thanks for posting! I once tried to make a qq account but it seems you need a Chinese phone number? I gave up after a few tries.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Fri, 03 May 2019, 10:05:50
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U)

      https://imgur.com/a/VcBSb2U

      this was posted in the fox labs QQ group chat.

      thought i'd post it here too.

      excited for my board!!

      Thanks for posting! I once tried to make a qq account but it seems you need a Chinese phone number? I gave up after a few tries.
      yep - one of the perks of living in china haha - especially with the faster delivery on the chinese GBs
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Fri, 03 May 2019, 11:56:24
      Pricing seem expensive to the US? Unikorn is almost half.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: t0ch on Fri, 03 May 2019, 12:52:09
      Received two identical invoices. I purchased two boards so I assume that both boards are invoiced individually for shipping instead of bundled?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:07:18
      Pricing seem expensive to the US? Unikorn is almost half.

      Iím thinking Aramex just has cheaper rates. Senter is using DHL Express which is probably the fastest and one of the most expensive couriers?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:20:50
      Received two identical invoices. I purchased two boards so I assume that both boards are invoiced individually for shipping instead of bundled?
      Same happened to me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:22:50
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/a4c47f4d6e7e73e3e3c89f0cb4496286.jpg)

      Anyone notice that the polycarbonate plates are clear rather than frosted like in the IC and GB starting photos? Am I missing something?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:27:48
      Welp maybe he forgot to sandblast the plates. lol
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:29:52
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/a4c47f4d6e7e73e3e3c89f0cb4496286.jpg)


      Anyone notice that the polycarbonate plates are clear rather than frosted like in the IC and GB starting photos? Am I missing something?
      Your inquiry aside, where did you get this photo? Would love to see if there are more!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 03 May 2019, 19:31:12
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190504/a4c47f4d6e7e73e3e3c89f0cb4496286.jpg)


      Anyone notice that the polycarbonate plates are clear rather than frosted like in the IC and GB starting photos? Am I missing something?
      Your inquiry aside, where did you get this photo? Would love to see if there are more!

      Yemeisong posted it the other day from the qq Group
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DocNoc on Fri, 03 May 2019, 20:41:18
      Hey Senter, I bought out someone's slot after the GB ended. I have yet to receive a paypal request for shipping. Could you double ccheck to see if you have the correct shipping info down for me?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Fri, 03 May 2019, 22:22:50
      QC and packing are still ongoing. Some shipping invoices have been sent out. Please be patient if you haven't received the invoice.
      The production was going smooth. I don't want to rush on the final QC and packing.
      Showing off an E-yellow prototype.

      (https://i.imgur.com/BTeGYO8.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/mEhilK4.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/QPCRB34.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/nwIBt5h.jpg)

      Edit: typo on the box will be fixed.. in some ways :-[
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: itskuroi on Fri, 03 May 2019, 23:07:49
      gotta fix that "Desgined by FOX[Lab]"
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Fri, 03 May 2019, 23:17:20

      QC and packing are still ongoing. Some shipping invoices have been sent out. Please be patient if you haven't received the invoice.
      The production was going smooth. I don't want to rush on the final QC and packing.
      Showing off an E-yellow prototype.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JE3pp99.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/5d1ljv5.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/PAyvv1k.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/G0BeG6L.jpg)

      Hey senter, how about that red ano that you showed the other day, is that a proto as well?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:11:38

      QC and packing are still ongoing. Some shipping invoices have been sent out. Please be patient if you haven't received the invoice.
      The production was going smooth. I don't want to rush on the final QC and packing.
      Showing off an E-yellow prototype.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JE3pp99.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/5d1ljv5.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/PAyvv1k.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/G0BeG6L.jpg)


      holy **** that's the best color i have ever seen on a keyboard

      senter my good man you have out done yourself
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:24:08

      QC and packing are still ongoing. Some shipping invoices have been sent out. Please be patient if you haven't received the invoice.
      The production was going smooth. I don't want to rush on the final QC and packing.
      Showing off an E-yellow prototype.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JE3pp99.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/5d1ljv5.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/PAyvv1k.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/G0BeG6L.jpg)


      OMG for a second I thought that was the anode yellow. Man that would be sick. Wish that was one of the original options.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:34:48

      QC and packing are still ongoing. Some shipping invoices have been sent out. Please be patient if you haven't received the invoice.
      The production was going smooth. I don't want to rush on the final QC and packing.
      Showing off an E-yellow prototype.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JE3pp99.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/5d1ljv5.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/PAyvv1k.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/G0BeG6L.jpg)

      That color  :eek:

      I just wonder, if the gold brass will stay shiny forever. If not, how long?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:34:53
      gotta fix that "Desgined by FOX[Lab]"

      He just tryign to innovate :cool:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:49:28
      Wow... I am regretting not getting this. I knew that I would.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mikenogo on Sat, 04 May 2019, 08:31:37
      So glad I got in on this, had a good feeling about this gb, the timing and swiftness of this groupbuy gave me much confidence in senter doing just good and consistent work. No flaunting, no unnecessary promises. My only regret is not getting a second one..

      Just waiting for my shipping invoice :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: killuchen on Sat, 04 May 2019, 08:43:25
      If anybody wants to sell their e-white let me know :) boards look awesome!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 04 May 2019, 09:12:02
      Senter slaying as usual. That yellow is actually insane, just gotta wait for the next design now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: joelmats3 on Sat, 04 May 2019, 09:23:46
      Wow amazing. If anyone wants to sell their purple or white any layout, let me know :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Sat, 04 May 2019, 17:31:41
      Invoice for shipping paid, very excited to see this come in. Very timely group buy.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lormania on Sat, 04 May 2019, 18:20:15
      Can't wait to get that invoice! Great GB experience
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 06 May 2019, 01:28:44
      Will there be a 65%? Or is pad next? Canít wait for next gb.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: maltedsoyamilk on Mon, 06 May 2019, 07:28:55
      Just paid invoice, can't wait  ;D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Mon, 06 May 2019, 08:36:25
      Invoice paid!  :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 06 May 2019, 08:57:20
      Invoice paid here as well. Pumped.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Mon, 06 May 2019, 09:24:14
      60 Euro shipping plus taxes. RIP Wallet
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Mon, 06 May 2019, 09:33:16
      Just paid shipping for my two boards. Rip wallet.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Mon, 06 May 2019, 11:19:23
      Just paid shipping!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Mon, 06 May 2019, 11:49:53
      just paid my invoice, can't wait to get my hands on this board! thanks for another very smooth GB experience senter :D i appreciate you a ton!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: genesisx on Mon, 06 May 2019, 12:45:35
      What a beautiful board...Will there be extras?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Mon, 06 May 2019, 19:43:13
      Senter, could you please send me the .dxf plate file for the special WKL plate (the one with 2u backspace)?

      Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:09:17
      I wonder when will the boards start shipping  :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: waxpoetik on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:26:12
      I got a text from DHL this morning for a package with a keyboard out of Hong Kong - hoping it's for this!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:29:28
      I got a text from DHL this morning for a package with a keyboard out of Hong Kong - hoping it's for this!

      When you're in too many GBs that it could be something different  :p
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Tue, 07 May 2019, 11:41:18
      I got a text from DHL this morning for a package with a keyboard out of Hong Kong - hoping it's for this!

      When you're in too many GBs that it could be something different  :p

      I got the same text from DHL Express, package from Hong Kong.

      Haven't ordered many other things;  will find out tomorrow I suppose.   :cool:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mmontess on Tue, 07 May 2019, 12:34:35
      I also received a text for a delivery this morning :) seems like too many to be a coincidence!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Tue, 07 May 2019, 12:37:23
      I also received a text for a delivery this morning :) seems like too many to be a coincidence!
      It's happening!

      9 lbs of "SAMPLE OF KEYBOARD" is coming!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 07 May 2019, 14:28:29
      Does anyone know how fast shipping to europe usually takes?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Tue, 07 May 2019, 14:34:23
      If itís dhl, should be pretty fast, even as low as 2 days sometimes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: orim23 on Tue, 07 May 2019, 14:50:18
      dhl takes a day or two from asia to europe.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 07 May 2019, 17:18:33
      Guess iíll have to wait for that text  :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Tue, 07 May 2019, 18:18:10
      Invoice paid! Can't wait for the numpad friend next!! :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hyun Cheol Hwang on Tue, 07 May 2019, 18:22:42
      Hi.

      I got the keyboard well.

      But I don't know how to do keymaps.

      Please let me know which one to choose from in QMK.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: noahf on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:02:16
      mine will be here tomorrow!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:04:09
      Senter, sent a PM. I think i did not put in my phone number anywhere  :'( heh
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: waxpoetik on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:13:00
      Senter, sent a PM. I think i did not put in my phone number anywhere  :'( heh
      The text is from DHL's on demand delivery program, not from Senter
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:15:43
      Senter, sent a PM. I think i did not put in my phone number anywhere  :'( heh
      The text is from DHL's on demand delivery program, not from Senter

      i know but i dont remember putting my phone number anywhere. If senter doesnt have my number, DHL doesnt have my number as well?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: waxpoetik on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:17:31
      Senter, sent a PM. I think i did not put in my phone number anywhere  :'( heh
      The text is from DHL's on demand delivery program, not from Senter

      i know but i dont remember putting my phone number anywhere. If senter doesnt have my number, DHL doesnt have my number as well?
      You'll want to sign up here: https://delivery.dhl.com

      That should show you the deliveries that are in their system to your address. It also let's you manage the delivery
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:28:31
      Senter, sent a PM. I think i did not put in my phone number anywhere  :'( heh
      The text is from DHL's on demand delivery program, not from Senter

      i know but i dont remember putting my phone number anywhere. If senter doesnt have my number, DHL doesnt have my number as well?
      You'll want to sign up here: https://delivery.dhl.com

      That should show you the deliveries that are in their system to your address. It also let's you manage the delivery

      Signed up but nothing is showing up. (even my acting DHL tracking from zF isnt showing up) anyway, maybe it'll just pop up one of these days. haha  :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 07 May 2019, 20:42:56
      Hi.

      I got the keyboard well.

      But I don't know how to do keymaps.

      Please let me know which one to choose from in QMK.

      And now the "I did not enter the GB" remorse.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 07 May 2019, 23:38:47
      DHL doesn't have anything in the system for me yet, hopefully soon. That PC looked great, excited to see it in person.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Wed, 08 May 2019, 09:10:34
      Hi.

      I got the keyboard well.

      But I don't know how to do keymaps.

      Please let me know which one to choose from in QMK.

      And now the "I did not enter the GB" remorse.

      There were a lot, be patient little one <3
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mnpq.raven on Wed, 08 May 2019, 09:35:00
      Also got my Leaf60 today
      There's no rubber feet included ?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: sirpensir on Wed, 08 May 2019, 10:23:23
      Anyone looking to sell their e-white or poly WKL? DM me if you are :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: 0sirisTV on Wed, 08 May 2019, 10:54:11
      I know things are mostly shipped at this point but if anyone is looking to let go of their spot just let me know. I have no color bias.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 08 May 2019, 11:11:21
      A little late now but I am just getting around to ordering switches and stabs. I am a bit confused as to which size I am supposed to get for the stabs. I have the standard layout with the standard non-hotswap PCB. Can anyone help me out?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PoochZag on Wed, 08 May 2019, 11:16:58
      A little late now but I am just getting around to ordering switches and stabs. I am a bit confused as to which size I am supposed to get for the stabs. I have the standard layout with the standard non-hotswap PCB. Can anyone help me out?

      It depends on the layout you want to build. Your spacebar will likely need either a 6.25U or 7U stab depending on which bottom row you choose to build.

      You will need up to 4 2U stabs, one for each key you have that is 2U or above. For a completely standard ANSI layout, you would need 1 6.25U and 4 2U stabs (left shift, right shift, enter and backspace). But if you split right shift, or split backspace, that would eliminate the need for a stab.

      If you're still unsure post the layout you are aiming for and we will help you out
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 08 May 2019, 11:26:23
      A little late now but I am just getting around to ordering switches and stabs. I am a bit confused as to which size I am supposed to get for the stabs. I have the standard layout with the standard non-hotswap PCB. Can anyone help me out?

      It depends on the layout you want to build. Your spacebar will likely need either a 6.25U or 7U stab depending on which bottom row you choose to build.

      You will need up to 4 2U stabs, one for each key you have that is 2U or above. For a completely standard ANSI layout, you would need 1 6.25U and 4 2U stabs (left shift, right shift, enter and backspace). But if you split right shift, or split backspace, that would eliminate the need for a stab.

      If you're still unsure post the layout you are aiming for and we will help you out

      Thanks for the reply. I am looking for a completely standard ANSI layout so I will go with the 4 x 2U and 1 x 6.25U kit.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: noahf on Wed, 08 May 2019, 16:46:28
      Also got my Leaf60 today
      There's no rubber feet included ?

      just received my leaf 60 and it had 4 rubber feat included.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mnpq.raven on Wed, 08 May 2019, 18:24:45
      Just did a quick typing test on the Leaf60, very solid board!
      There's some aspects i'd like to point out but it's really just very nitpicky details, this board is built like a tank, the finish is spot on without any smear as far as i can tell

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 08 May 2019, 18:32:18
      I do not think I realized there was a hotswap PCB... I should have gotten one.

      If anyone has one for sale with a hot-swap PCB... let me know.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 08 May 2019, 18:44:59
      What are the aspects you want to point out?
      Just did a quick typing test on the Leaf60, very solid board!
      There's some aspects i'd like to point out but it's really just very nitpicky details, this board is built like a tank, the finish is spot on without any smear as far as i can tell

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mnpq.raven on Wed, 08 May 2019, 19:11:54
      What are the aspects you want to point out?
      Just did a quick typing test on the Leaf60, very solid board!
      There's some aspects i'd like to point out but it's really just very nitpicky details, this board is built like a tank, the finish is spot on without any smear as far as i can tell

      Stabilizer cutouts and gaskets holes being a bit too tight, missing rubber feet in my order, that's all. Still a top notch board all around
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Wed, 08 May 2019, 19:31:33
      What are the aspects you want to point out?
      Just did a quick typing test on the Leaf60, very solid board!
      There's some aspects i'd like to point out but it's really just very nitpicky details, this board is built like a tank, the finish is spot on without any smear as far as i can tell

      Stabilizer cutouts and gaskets holes being a bit too tight, missing rubber feet in my order, that's all. Still a top notch board all around

      Hello fellow e-red buyer. Is the red absolutely perfect?  Yep, I agree.  I think we are the only two in the whole gb.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mnpq.raven on Wed, 08 May 2019, 19:38:41
      Hello fellow e-red buyer. Is the red absolutely perfect?  Yep, I agree.  I think we are the only two in the whole gb.
      I agree, my favorite color is red so seeing the E-red color option i couldn't say no to that, this shade of red is absolutely gorgeous
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jkshowman on Wed, 08 May 2019, 20:21:59
      After paying shipping, how would one get tracking? :O
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 08 May 2019, 20:24:16
      Only assuming here, but I think just wait. I paid on the 3rd and still havenít seen tracking.
      After paying shipping, how would one get tracking? :O
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Wed, 08 May 2019, 21:03:01
      Only assuming here, but I think just wait. I paid on the 3rd and still havenít seen tracking.
      After paying shipping, how would one get tracking? :O
      I did not get any emails, only the text message from DHL.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Wed, 08 May 2019, 21:31:26
      Just want to ask, does DHL always send a text when a package is shipped? I've gotten packages from DHL more than a dozen times and i've never received a text before.  :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ChickenBear on Wed, 08 May 2019, 21:59:02
      Just did a quick typing test on the Leaf60, very solid board!
      There's some aspects i'd like to point out but it's really just very nitpicky details, this board is built like a tank, the finish is spot on without any smear as far as i can tell


      Did you lube the switches at all?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Wed, 08 May 2019, 22:05:14
      Don't worry if you haven't received the text message from DHL. There were around 180 packages in total so the proxy cannot ship them out in a single batch. They will send them out in two days.

      I've uploaded the code/firmware to my own repo (https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/foxlab). I want to merge it to the main repo but I'm not very familiar with Github. Specifically, I don't know how to do it without fetching the lasted codes from the upstream. I'm super busy in recent days. I'll figure it out later when I'm available. For now please just use the codes in my own repo first.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Wed, 08 May 2019, 22:08:25
      Don't worry if you haven't received the text message from DHL. There were around 180 packages in total so the proxy cannot ship them out in a single batch. They will send them out in two days.

      I've uploaded the code/firmware to my own repo (https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/foxlab). I want to merge it to the main repo but I'm not very familiar with Github. Specifically, I don't know how to do it without fetching the lasted codes from the upstream. I'm super busy in recent days. I'll figure it out later when I'm available. For now please just use the codes in my own repo first.

      Thank you for the prompt replies and stress free GB. The world would be a better place if every GB was like that.  :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Wed, 08 May 2019, 22:58:47
      I want to merge it to the main repo but I'm not very familiar with Github. Specifically, I don't know how to do it without fetching the lasted codes from the upstream. I'm super busy in recent days. I'll figure it out later when I'm available. For now please just use the codes in my own repo first.

      Go to the main repo on GitHub and click the "New pull request" button next to the branch selection drop down. Choose your fork of the repo on the right then choose the branch you want. If you choose master then you'll merge in the commit you have for the UniGo66, XD60v3, TR60w, as well as the one for Leaf60.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 09 May 2019, 00:33:09
      If anyone decides they absolutely hates WKL and wants to trade a PC WKL top for a PC Regular top (long shot, I know) let me know!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 09 May 2019, 00:46:34
      [attachimg=1]

      thank you Fox!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Thu, 09 May 2019, 00:53:38
      (Attachment Link)

      thank you Fox!

      That is some flex!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Thu, 09 May 2019, 00:59:50
      (Attachment Link)

      thank you Fox!
      what color is that on the bottom? looks great!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Thu, 09 May 2019, 01:06:29
      (Attachment Link)

      thank you Fox!

      **** man, $1500 on the same keyboard, yeesh.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Thu, 09 May 2019, 01:26:38
      (Attachment Link)

      thank you Fox!
      Thats nice.  :eek:

      What does polycarb looks with gold pvd brass plate?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 May 2019, 01:39:41
      Thereís not enough space between the plate and bottom of the inside of the case. The alps switch legs are touching the case :(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: orim23 on Thu, 09 May 2019, 01:41:39
      Just got the Message from DHL. Should be in my Hand by tomorrow!
      Just started lubing switches!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Thu, 09 May 2019, 03:11:35
      [delete]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mnpq.raven on Thu, 09 May 2019, 06:00:23
      anyone who can help me with programming the keymap?  :( pls pm me on discord DePulse
      #3682
      It's not on QMK yet, gotta wait for senter's response i guess
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: up-in on Thu, 09 May 2019, 06:33:35
      There are so many rubber pads, do someone know what's that for?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Thu, 09 May 2019, 06:36:00
      There are so many rubber pads, do someone know what's that for?
      the gaskets. they go in between the plate and the top/bottom case for dampening.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Ecty on Thu, 09 May 2019, 09:01:48
      Hi Senter, sent a PM regarding the board I just received.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 09 May 2019, 09:53:30
      If anyone has an extra brass hhkb plate I would like to buy one.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Thu, 09 May 2019, 09:56:03
      If anyone has an extra brass hhkb plate I would like to buy one.
      I should have one. I got a PC hhkb and brass pvd hhkb plate. I will probably be using the PC one. I'll PM you once it arrives.

      Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 09 May 2019, 09:56:44
      If anyone has an extra brass hhkb plate I would like to buy one.
      I should have one. I got a PC hhkb and brass pvd hhkb plate. I will probably be using the PC one. I'll PM you once it arrives.

      Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

      That would be great, thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: The Raygin Asian on Thu, 09 May 2019, 12:46:26
      Eagerly awaiting that DHL text
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 09 May 2019, 12:49:15
      I didn't get any DHL text and I just received it yesterday. Can't wait to put it together this weekend!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 May 2019, 13:31:51
      Looking for a mx pc plate for wkl layout. LMK if you've got one!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: finalarcadia on Thu, 09 May 2019, 19:08:21
      Umm anyone else's polycarb case won't open up even after removing screws? Dunno what's going on lol

      NVM opened it
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Thu, 09 May 2019, 19:17:51
      Umm anyone else's polycarb case won't open up even after removing screws? Dunno what's going on lol

      NVM opened it

      The top piece is just a little warped, so it hugs the sides tighter.  I was also confused for a solid minute...   :p
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 09 May 2019, 23:33:29
      Anyone have recommendations for led strips? Also, where is it soldered to on the PCB?  Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 10 May 2019, 02:14:19
      Itís probably a long shot, but if anyone in CONUS with MX brass plate that are looking to sell or to trade for PC universal plate, PM me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Fri, 10 May 2019, 03:35:29
      Can we get an update on shipping status Senter ? Still not received a text
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Fri, 10 May 2019, 04:56:01
      Can we get an update on shipping status Senter ? Still not received a text

      Not everyone got texts. So they might just magically appear :))
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: victorpre on Fri, 10 May 2019, 06:20:58
      Anybody willing to pass their leaf60?

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Furikurichemy on Fri, 10 May 2019, 06:32:31
      Can we get an update on shipping status Senter ? Still not received a text

      I got a text after they failed to deliver it to my address because I wasn't there  :(. So it will probably magically appear before you get any notification.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Dennyroxsox on Fri, 10 May 2019, 08:51:44
      I've seen a lot of pics of these, and they look great! I'm kind of jealous I didn't get in on this one!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: matrixzj on Fri, 10 May 2019, 09:35:32
      anyone who can help me with programming the keymap?  :( pls pm me on discord DePulse
      #3682
      It's not on QMK yet, gotta wait for senter's response i guess

      https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/foxlab
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: orim23 on Fri, 10 May 2019, 14:01:36
      got my board!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/97d5c158c2e4d1c8d12878d4de948c04.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Fri, 10 May 2019, 14:18:40
      got my board!
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/97d5c158c2e4d1c8d12878d4de948c04.jpg)


      wewwww lad
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Fri, 10 May 2019, 23:36:43
      Got one of my two my boards, still waiting on the second.

      Other than that the e-white board I received is pretty much flawless.

      Some really bad photos:
      (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/358532590107623424/576617243639676929/image1.jpg)
      (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/358532590107623424/576617244360966144/image0.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sat, 11 May 2019, 01:09:59
      Well got a surprise visit from a DHL guy. No texts as well heh

      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: EvilemX8 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 03:26:56
      Would love to buy a PC Leaf60 - please PM me if anyone is thinking of letting one go!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 03:48:55
      Thats nice for you guys. I wonder where is mine now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: heloitsame on Sat, 11 May 2019, 04:39:30
      Thats nice for you guys. I wonder where is mine now.

      im in the same boat man ):
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 05:26:44
      Thats nice for you guys. I wonder where is mine now.

      im in the same boat man ):
      Received a text just a while from DHL. Estimate delivery is Tuesday. No build this weekend  :(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jinnnxxu on Sat, 11 May 2019, 06:44:06
      (https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190511/lp8YBvA7RxEOsNgvWsXP3Ryx9bHR?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)

      (https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190511/ln3-kfAa97z5bobyo0G-6BPZcvS6?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)

      (https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190511/lhOhIGc5C9DyHTI4wcPfOyYTgxCF?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)

      (https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190511/lp2zXFh1uCft7KwQJUaKjO_I_Xn-?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)

      (https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190511/lqG6A-ZGwY5MVtC2w5ygEXJfMt6D?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Jinnnxxu on Sat, 11 May 2019, 06:45:44
      Got my pc one, really nice with olivia!!  ;D ;D ;D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 May 2019, 07:51:02
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 07:55:50
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?

      I am rocking /dev/tty right now so I joined the SA Granite GB, will wait for those.

      https://kono.store/products/sa-granite-keycap-set
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 May 2019, 08:13:41
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?

      I am rocking /dev/tty right now so I joined the SA Granite GB, will wait for those.

      https://kono.store/products/sa-granite-keycap-set


      I only have WoB, Skeletor and Laser right now. I light sell laser and get an epbt set.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sat, 11 May 2019, 11:07:15
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?

      im thinking either modern dolch, serika or taro!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sat, 11 May 2019, 11:37:24
      Just a potato phone pic! Not built yet tho.

      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lunr on Sat, 11 May 2019, 11:45:52
      Well I hope this will be on QMK Confg soon.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: sirpensir on Sat, 11 May 2019, 11:59:54
      Still looking for a WKL PC leaf 60, please PM me if you have one!  :p
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: matrixzj on Sat, 11 May 2019, 12:10:00
      Well I hope this will be on QMK Confg soon.

      QMK posted: https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/foxlab
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sat, 11 May 2019, 12:37:58
      For reference, screws are m2.5x14.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 11 May 2019, 12:50:33
      So...how do I program this thing if the files aren't in QMK yet? I see the foxlab folder on github, but when I clone the repo it doesn't show up.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: waxpoetik on Sat, 11 May 2019, 13:03:18
      (https://i.redd.it/3r65ahi3wlx21.jpg)

      A little tribute board to Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Thanks Senter for a fantastic and timely GB!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Sat, 11 May 2019, 13:04:21
      Show Image
      (https://i.redd.it/3r65ahi3wlx21.jpg)


      A little tribute board to Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Thanks Senter for a fantastic and timely GB!
      oooffff, that looks amazing!!!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 11 May 2019, 13:05:22
      Haha! Thatís awesome!
      Show Image
      (https://i.redd.it/3r65ahi3wlx21.jpg)


      A little tribute board to Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Thanks Senter for a fantastic and timely GB!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hhkbp2 on Sat, 11 May 2019, 13:13:38
      So...how do I program this thing if the files aren't in QMK yet? I see the foxlab folder on github, but when I clone the repo it doesn't show up.

      It's not pushed to the QMK main repo yet. Make sure you clone it from foxlab's repo: https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware

      The foxlab directory should be there once the git clone finishes.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PvtSkittles on Sat, 11 May 2019, 13:29:16
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?

      I'm waiting for my SA VoC to come in - hopefully in September? For now I'm putting on my epbt Heavy industry for the time being.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 11 May 2019, 14:40:43
      (https://i.imgur.com/7e6kZFh.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/fLJNrwr.jpg)

      Great little board build was a breeze. Still waiting for my 2nd on Tuesday

      Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dwarflemur on Sat, 11 May 2019, 15:41:42
      just got a text that mine will be out for delivery monday!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: edasaur on Sat, 11 May 2019, 15:54:35
      I also got a text saying mine will be delivered Monday. Anyone have any experience receiving DHL packages at work? Will they require me to be at the front desk to receive the package?

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 11 May 2019, 16:13:54
      I also got a text saying mine will be delivered Monday. Anyone have any experience receiving DHL packages at work? Will they require me to be at the front desk to receive the package?

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      I've never had a problem with the receptionist signing for the delivery.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sat, 11 May 2019, 16:55:46
      Starting my alps build, it seems the the pins on alps switches are too long and touch the bottom of the case (removing the flex created by the plate). I will probably clip the legs.
      There's not much room to add dampening material in the Leaf boards.
      (https://imgur.com/Xr9R8Nl.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 11 May 2019, 16:58:19
      So...how do I program this thing if the files aren't in QMK yet? I see the foxlab folder on github, but when I clone the repo it doesn't show up.

      It's not pushed to the QMK main repo yet. Make sure you clone it from foxlab's repo: https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware

      The foxlab directory should be there once the git clone finishes.

      And how do I get the board into DFU/bootloader mode?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:00:38
      Starting my alps build, it seems the the pins on alps switches are too long and touch the bottom of the case (removing the flex created by the plate). I will probably clip the legs.
      There's not much room to add dampening material in the Leaf boards.
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/Xr9R8Nl.jpg)

      Which switches? Top row or bottom?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:22:43
      Are Alps pins longer than MX?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:38:56
      Are Alps pins longer than MX?
      Yep.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: babyphil on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:49:49
      So...how do I program this thing if the files aren't in QMK yet? I see the foxlab folder on github, but when I clone the repo it doesn't show up.

      It's not pushed to the QMK main repo yet. Make sure you clone it from foxlab's repo: https://github.com/fox-lab/qmk_firmware

      The foxlab directory should be there once the git clone finishes.

      And how do I get the board into DFU/bootloader mode?
      Fn+Esc
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hokabuki on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:53:10
      What key set is everyone planning to use with the polycarb clear?

      im thinking either modern dolch, serika or taro!
      Going to be putting GMK Yuri on mine!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sat, 11 May 2019, 17:58:26
      Starting my alps build, it seems the the pins on alps switches are too long and touch the bottom of the case (removing the flex created by the plate). I will probably clip the legs.
      There's not much room to add dampening material in the Leaf boards.
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/Xr9R8Nl.jpg)

      Which switches? Top row or bottom?
      Honestly Iím not sure if some are worse. Throughout the board I feel like there are at least 10-20 so Iím just going to clip them all while Iím at it.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sat, 11 May 2019, 18:16:45
      Starting my alps build, it seems the the pins on alps switches are too long and touch the bottom of the case (removing the flex created by the plate). I will probably clip the legs.
      There's not much room to add dampening material in the Leaf boards.
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/Xr9R8Nl.jpg)

      Which switches? Top row or bottom?
      Honestly Iím not sure if some are worse. Throughout the board I feel like there are at least 10-20 so Iím just going to clip them all while Iím at it.
      Interesting...

      Gonna throw some SKCM Browns on a PC plate. An alps endgame. But haven't desoldered them yet...

      Typically trimming a little won't hurt them, unless you are gonna desolder and resell or something. (Even then I don't think anyone will care: they still work. )
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 11 May 2019, 21:30:50
      Starting my alps build, it seems the the pins on alps switches are too long and touch the bottom of the case (removing the flex created by the plate). I will probably clip the legs.
      There's not much room to add dampening material in the Leaf boards.
      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/Xr9R8Nl.jpg)

      Which switches? Top row or bottom?

      The pins touch the bottom of the case through out the entire board for me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 May 2019, 21:35:09
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/7e6kZFh.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/fLJNrwr.jpg)


      Great little board build was a breeze. Still waiting for my 2nd on Tuesday

      Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

      Nice! Which plate is this?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 11 May 2019, 22:35:40
      Looks like white aluminum
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/7e6kZFh.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/fLJNrwr.jpg)


      Great little board build was a breeze. Still waiting for my 2nd on Tuesday

      Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

      Nice! Which plate is this?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Sun, 12 May 2019, 04:09:44
      Hey guys, looking for someone to swap top case and plates with. Really want to get that hhkb layout.

      I have a leaf60 polycarbonate clear standard top + purple alu plate + brass plate + polycarbonate clear plate

      I would like to get only a leaf60 polycarbonate clear hhkb top + clear polycarbonate hhkb plate + paypal or add a brass hhkb plate instead of paypal

      Send me a message if you are interested


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Sun, 12 May 2019, 09:35:22
      https://ibb.co/ck1THTM

      here's mine. built with lubed gat mints with cherry tops, with dedicated WKL plate. caps from a g80-1838HPU. types amazingly
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dantambok on Sun, 12 May 2019, 10:27:05
      just test fitted my plate without the pcb, seems like the right side of my plate isnt sandwiched properly, left side is ok tho.  weird
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Quakemz on Sun, 12 May 2019, 17:18:49
      Anyone else having issues getting the 4 corner screws in all the way on their E-coating Leafs? I suppose it needs extra tapping or something?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: daishan on Sun, 12 May 2019, 17:25:55
      I had issues with the screws on my e-coating board as well, but with a bit of force they went in and from then on moved far easier.

      I guess the scew holes weren't tapped quite enough, but the screws widened them.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ptiede on Sun, 12 May 2019, 17:29:49
      Anyone else having issues getting the 4 corner screws in all the way on their E-coating Leafs? I suppose it needs extra tapping or something?

      I had the exact same problem. My corners didn't go in and there are gaps there. I actually screwed one in and then the threads completely disintegrated and now the screw just spins freely. I don't think the holes were tapped correctly. I am going to attempt to retap them sometime this week. Hopefully, that fixes it.

       I have an e-red board.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 12 May 2019, 17:37:39
      Anyone else having issues getting the 4 corner screws in all the way on their E-coating Leafs? I suppose it needs extra tapping or something?

      I had the exact same problem. My corners didn't go in and there are gaps there. I actually screwed one in and then the threads completely disintegrated and now the screw just spins freely. I don't think the holes were tapped correctly. I am going to attempt to retap them sometime this week. Hopefully, that fixes it.

       I have an e-red board.
      Likewise. Screws are m2.5x14. But don't know the exact pitch...
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 12 May 2019, 17:45:42
      Also having issues with the screws on my e-white. The front two corners take quite a bit of force and stick out a little bit.
      I don't think it makes a difference since the board is still screwed together but I'd definitely prefer they were recessed or at least flush.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 12 May 2019, 18:12:43
      Also having issues with the screws on my e-white. The front two corners take quite a bit of force and stick out a little bit.
      I don't think it makes a difference since the board is still screwed together but I'd definitely prefer they were recessed or at least flush.
      Yea, I sent a message to senter, he said this is from the residue from the e coating, the front corners are particularly bad, as that is the anodize hook area.

      I'm actually thinking some wd40 will fix it up, as it's a solvent that will loosen debris. Screwing / unscrewing a screw by itself a few times did loosen some debris.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ptiede on Sun, 12 May 2019, 18:14:50
      Anyone else having issues getting the 4 corner screws in all the way on their E-coating Leafs? I suppose it needs extra tapping or something?

      I had the exact same problem. My corners didn't go in and there are gaps there. I actually screwed one in and then the threads completely disintegrated and now the screw just spins freely. I don't think the holes were tapped correctly. I am going to attempt to retap them sometime this week. Hopefully, that fixes it.

       I have an e-red board.
      Likewise. Screws are m2.5x14. But don't know the exact pitch...
      Thanks, I had messaged senter and he hadn't got back to me yet. I'll go to the hardware store and buy a tap and other tools I'll need to fix it. The board it still useable but the gap is noticeable and is bugging me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 12 May 2019, 18:46:52
      Anyone else having issues getting the 4 corner screws in all the way on their E-coating Leafs? I suppose it needs extra tapping or something?

      I had the exact same problem. My corners didn't go in and there are gaps there. I actually screwed one in and then the threads completely disintegrated and now the screw just spins freely. I don't think the holes were tapped correctly. I am going to attempt to retap them sometime this week. Hopefully, that fixes it.

       I have an e-red board.
      Likewise. Screws are m2.5x14. But don't know the exact pitch...
      Thanks, I had messaged senter and he hadn't got back to me yet. I'll go to the hardware store and buy a tap and other tools I'll need to fix it. The board it still useable but the gap is noticeable and is bugging me.
      Bring a screw to verify the tap.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PvtSkittles on Sun, 12 May 2019, 19:05:50
      Now I just have to program the thing... I programmed a Planck once but its been a while - hopefully it all comes back to me quickly.

      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 12 May 2019, 19:18:24
      Now I just have to program the thing... I programmed a Planck once but its been a while - hopefully it all comes back to me quickly.

      (Attachment Link)

      This looks great! I can not wait to build mine this next week.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Sun, 12 May 2019, 20:20:55
      Also having issues with the screws on my e-white. The front two corners take quite a bit of force and stick out a little bit.
      I don't think it makes a difference since the board is still screwed together but I'd definitely prefer they were recessed or at least flush.
      Yea, I sent a message to senter, he said this is from the residue from the e coating, the front corners are particularly bad, as that is the anodize hook area.

      I'm actually thinking some wd40 will fix it up, as it's a solvent that will loosen debris. Screwing / unscrewing a screw by itself a few times did loosen some debris.
      Confirmed, wd40 fixed most of mine.

      First, I scraped a bit out with a needle.

      Then I made a little pool of wd40 in a dish dripped the screw tip in, and then put it in the hole, tightened until it stopped, then loosened and retightened, a few times, took out the screw, wiped off the black residue, dipped and repeated a few times.

      I stripped a screw hole, and overtightened another one (so I have a little bump on top of my case). :/
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 12 May 2019, 21:06:23
      Also having issues with the screws on my e-white. The front two corners take quite a bit of force and stick out a little bit.
      I don't think it makes a difference since the board is still screwed together but I'd definitely prefer they were recessed or at least flush.
      Yea, I sent a message to senter, he said this is from the residue from the e coating, the front corners are particularly bad, as that is the anodize hook area.

      I'm actually thinking some wd40 will fix it up, as it's a solvent that will loosen debris. Screwing / unscrewing a screw by itself a few times did loosen some debris.
      Confirmed, wd40 fixed most of mine.

      First, I scraped a bit out with a needle.

      Then I made a little pool of wd40 in a dish dripped the screw tip in, and then put it in the hole, tightened until it stopped, then loosened and retightened, a few times, took out the screw, wiped off the black residue, dipped and repeated a few times.

      I stripped a screw hole, and overtightened another one (so I have a little bump on top of my case). :/
      Oh good to know, thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sun, 12 May 2019, 23:13:21
      Are all these issues just with e coating?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Mon, 13 May 2019, 00:43:12
      Are all these issues just with e coating?
      Yea. My pc board is totally fine (though the top is slightly warped, it screws in flush), and I expect the alu boards are too.

      E coating adds thickness (iirc), and gets everywhere apparently. Putting teasers into the screw hole sounded like I was hitting a little sand...
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: up-in on Mon, 13 May 2019, 04:48:52
      Are all these issues just with e coating?
      Yea. My pc board is totally fine (though the top is slightly warped, it screws in flush), and I expect the alu boards are too.

      E coating adds thickness (iirc), and gets everywhere apparently. Putting teasers into the screw hole sounded like I was hitting a little sand...

      hey, i still haven't built mine and i have a question. There are 5 rubber gasket in the package, did you use just 4 of them or 2 of them?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: bengine on Mon, 13 May 2019, 05:16:49
      Are all these issues just with e coating?
      Yea. My pc board is totally fine (though the top is slightly warped, it screws in flush), and I expect the alu boards are too.

      E coating adds thickness (iirc), and gets everywhere apparently. Putting teasers into the screw hole sounded like I was hitting a little sand...

      hey, i still haven't built mine and i have a question. There are 5 rubber gasket in the package, did you use just 4 of them or 2 of them?

      Use 4 of them
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 13 May 2019, 07:08:16
      Still havenít received any shipping notification. Are these shipping in order of who joined first?


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: befbef on Mon, 13 May 2019, 08:06:48
      Those who already built theirs: How does it feel, do the gaskets affect the typing feel? Different to other (non gasket) sandwich mount boards?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: orim23 on Mon, 13 May 2019, 08:17:15
      so i cracked a screw trying to get the last edge tight. now part of the screw is stuck. how do i get that out? drill it out? what drill do i need?

      Aside from that it feels fantastic. I have lubed silenced switches in, typing on it feels like whispering!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: fireworm on Mon, 13 May 2019, 09:21:26
      Are all these issues just with e coating?
      Yea. My pc board is totally fine (though the top is slightly warped, it screws in flush), and I expect the alu boards are too.

      E coating adds thickness (iirc), and gets everywhere apparently. Putting teasers into the screw hole sounded like I was hitting a little sand...

      hey, i still haven't built mine and i have a question. There are 5 rubber gasket in the package, did you use just 4 of them or 2 of them?
      Four.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Mon, 13 May 2019, 10:32:39
      Is there any way to unscrew the case without and m2 screwdriver?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: up-in on Mon, 13 May 2019, 11:18:09
      did anyone succesful with qmk for HHKB version? i still have a hard time  :(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kungszehon on Mon, 13 May 2019, 11:34:11
      did anyone succesful with qmk for HHKB version? i still have a hard time  :(

      DM me on discord Steben #6329 I can send you a hex file
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 13 May 2019, 12:29:00
      did anyone succesful with qmk for HHKB version? i still have a hard time  :(

      It would be more helpful if you can explain the problem that you have. I programmed mine just fine.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: up-in on Mon, 13 May 2019, 12:37:38
      did anyone succesful with qmk for HHKB version? i still have a hard time  :(

      It would be more helpful if you can explain the problem that you have. I programmed mine just fine.

      it's all done, i just couldn't find how to make 3rd layer. 2 Layer is fine for now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 13 May 2019, 13:29:29
      I am interested in any extra hhkb plates.
      Shoot me a DM.

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Mon, 13 May 2019, 14:10:31
      Hey Senter. Ordered a universal PC plate, received a wkl one, pretty much useless. Pm'ing
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Mon, 13 May 2019, 17:13:40
      Received an anodized yellow today. I'm a little disappointed in the anodization quality. There's a fairly visible flaw on the top of the case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Dead Encryption on Mon, 13 May 2019, 17:33:29
      Got mine in and streamed today. But, my weight broke off of the mounts during shipping. Anyway, if anyone wants to check it out:

      https://www.twitch.tv/videos/424494034

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:07:55
      just built my e-white today. Overall feels really great to type on (using it for this reply). But the screws problems that was previously described is pretty prevalent, and one of the screws has been stripped so my screwdriver just turns freely when i try to remove the screw. This also means one side of the seam joining the top and bottom is slight lifted. Overall not a bad board at all, but certain aspects of the attention to detail leaves a little bit to be desired imo.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:09:32
      just built my e-white today. Overall feels really great to type on (using it for this reply). But the screws problems that was previously described is pretty prevalent, and one of the screws has been stripped so my screwdriver just turns freely when i try to remove the screw. This also means one side of the seam joining the top and bottom is slight lifted. Overall not a bad board at all, but certain aspects of the attention to detail leaves a little bit to be desired imo.

      Dang, all these issues are making me a bit concerned. Still haven't received a shipping notification though, a bit concerned by that as well.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:13:09
      Dang, all these issues are making me a bit concerned. Still haven't received a shipping notification though, a bit concerned by that as well.

      As it appears from past pages, most (all?) people didn't get a shipping notification, they just got a text from DHL when it's basically ready for delivery. Some didn't even get that, it just showed up.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:20:38
      Hoping I donít run into any screw issues, but the machining is noticeably not on point. As someone who upgraded the plate/weight (insanely expensive upgrades making this a very not budget board), I was hoping for a little better quality. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/115afad736478ecac4b179c12c20929c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/404c3d9903c4ac94da0aaff23e6c31c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/b1e65ee64abfdafaa62848a81752b013.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:21:47
      But really... upgrades or not... Iíve seen much better machining on many other (less expensive) boards
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:24:00
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/8c526fd5eee88a11db05dd3e3ead5fd8.jpg)
      I did have issues with the screw holes but patiently working the screw back and forth and using a brush cleared them up enough. Other than that and incorrect layout flashed, everything is great!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 13 May 2019, 21:29:05
      Let me know if anyone has an e-black weight they'd like to trade for a poly or e-white weight.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mog_genius88 on Mon, 13 May 2019, 23:48:36
      Anyone order an Eblack board? If so, would you mind sharing some pics? I was sent an Ewhite by mistake and Senter offered to switch it out but I would like to see how an Eblack looks before I make the final decision. Ewhite looks a lot better than I thought it would.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: matrixzj on Tue, 14 May 2019, 00:04:33
      Anyone order an Eblack board? If so, would you mind sharing some pics? I was sent an Ewhite by mistake and Senter offered to switch it out but I would like to see how an Eblack looks before I make the final decision. Ewhite looks a lot better than I thought it would.

      (https://i.imgur.com/ypcdlUQ.jpg)

      E-Black for me with red weight. Looks nice for me.

      (https://i.imgur.com/mQUsWO2.jpg)

      E-Black from my friends with PVD plate and PVD weight.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: mog_genius88 on Tue, 14 May 2019, 00:11:09
      Anyone order an Eblack board? If so, would you mind sharing some pics? I was sent an Ewhite by mistake and Senter offered to switch it out but I would like to see how an Eblack looks before I make the final decision. Ewhite looks a lot better than I thought it would.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/ypcdlUQ.jpg)


      E-Black for me with red weight. Looks nice for me.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/mQUsWO2.jpg)


      E-Black from my friends with PVD plate and PVD weight.

      gah, that black and gold looks amazing. exactly the aesthetic i was going for. unfortunately someone who ordered eblack told me it's a fingerprint magnet.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Tue, 14 May 2019, 00:45:17
      Would anyone happen to know how to remove a stripped screw from a keyboard? All the methods I see online seem a bit crude for something like a keyboard.

      And on that note, @Senter, would it be possible to purchase additional screws?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: edasaur on Tue, 14 May 2019, 00:55:33
      got my white with red weight and have to say that I am very satisfied. Now time to wait on my jamon keycaps to arrive...

      Btw, have to commend the packaging design, and the typo fix ;)

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Tue, 14 May 2019, 06:42:50
      Hi friends. I just had a long flight. I will start replying messages by tomorrow. If your board has issues, please send me a PM with description and photos.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 14 May 2019, 12:10:55
      So how many gaskets am I supposed to use? The picture in the thread shows only 2, but people are saying to use 4?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Tue, 14 May 2019, 12:17:53
      So how many gaskets am I supposed to use? The picture in the thread shows only 2, but people are saying to use 4?
      4. Two top and two bottom. Sandwich the plate between 2 gaskets in the front and back (top and bottom of case).

      Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: noahf on Tue, 14 May 2019, 14:18:12
      Would anyone happen to know how to remove a stripped screw from a keyboard? All the methods I see online seem a bit crude for something like a keyboard.

      And on that note, @Senter, would it be possible to purchase additional screws?

      The best solution will likely be to use a very very very small drill bit and drill into the top of the screw. once the bit becomes engraved into the screw, try to back it out using reversing and a small amount of force. this is basically how you would do it on a car.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Platysta on Tue, 14 May 2019, 15:26:21
      Got it! MAO white and ewhite weight.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Tue, 14 May 2019, 15:39:26
      Are folks just cutting north bottom gasket at the usb hole?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 14 May 2019, 15:41:59
      Are folks just cutting north bottom gasket at the usb hole?

      I did it
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 14 May 2019, 15:51:43
      Are folks just cutting north bottom gasket at the usb hole?

      I did it

      I also had to cut mine.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PvtSkittles on Tue, 14 May 2019, 16:16:53
      Yup, I did the same.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Tue, 14 May 2019, 17:30:45
      Typetesting an e-white board with brass plate and weight.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:01:32
      Just a heads up, if you see a white sticker with an arrow on your PCB it probably means you need to solder the part itís pointing at. One of my resistors was only soldered on one half and so the switch wasnít working. I soldered the other half and all is well again! Donít know if this just wasnít caught or if I was expected to fix it myself.

      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/dacae8da3da134feef54d07a0b7d451c.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:14:23
      Got the text mine will be here tomorrow! Very excited. I kind of wish the PC Plate was the same frosted as case, but outside of that all of these pictures look fantastic!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:24:45
      Got mine in and built! Loving it so far. PC came with some scuffs on the bottom, but they aren't too bad, hardly noticeable on the PC.

      PC Case
      PVD Brass weight
      Black PC plate
      Retooled Blacks w/3204

      (https://i.imgur.com/LK9bRwc.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/aZRUEcI.jpg)

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:27:01
      Got mine in and built! Loving it so far. PC came with some scuffs on the bottom, but they aren't too bad, hardly noticeable on the PC.

      PC Case
      PVD Brass weight
      Black PC plate
      Retooled Blacks w/3204

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/LK9bRwc.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/aZRUEcI.jpg)


      Damn those are some crisp photos! Looks amazing.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:28:37
      Just a heads up, if you see a white sticker with an arrow on your PCB it probably means you need to solder the part itís pointing at. One of my resistors was only soldered on one half and so the switch wasnít working. I soldered the other half and all is well again! Donít know if this just wasnít caught or if I was expected to fix it myself.

      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/dacae8da3da134feef54d07a0b7d451c.jpg)


      should be QC result, but missed in the repairing stage
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:44:03
      I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


      1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

      is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

      [attachimg=1]

      2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:48:12
      I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


      1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

      is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

      (Attachment Link)

      2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.

      poly warping is a longstanding issue, over half of poly 910 were rejected because of it
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:49:59
      I bought a leaf on MM and I have two problems:


      1: I was trying to flash my PCB and accidentally erased it...

      is this what needs to be jumped to reset it?

      (Attachment Link)

      2: Is anyone else's Poly warped/bent? My PCB and Poly plate build (I put it together) and the top case are slightly warped.

      poly warping is a longstanding issue, over half of poly 910 were rejected because of it

      Ok, thanks for the info. It is not horrible, but it is there. Primarily the PCB/Plate
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dwarflemur on Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:24:15
      Is there a way to build the firmware through the QMK online configurator so I don't have to set up a build environment on my PC?
      Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:40:16
      Is there a way to build the firmware through the QMK online configurator so I don't have to set up a build environment on my PC?
      No... itís not merged into QMK yet iirc. Tho Merlin did mention that it might be soon.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: pcire on Wed, 15 May 2019, 00:45:45
      I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
      I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

      [attach=1]

      I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dwarflemur on Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:13:31
      I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
      I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

      (Attachment Link)

      I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?
      Same for me
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 01:15:51
      I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
      I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

      (Attachment Link)

      I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?
      Same for me
      You'll need to program the PCB using QMK to give it any sort of functionality
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PvtSkittles on Wed, 15 May 2019, 02:49:28
      I got mine today.  It is a hot-swappable pcb with a HHKB plate.
      I was trying to quickly test the pcb on a Mac but the following two keys weren't giving me anything:

      (Attachment Link)

      I'm guessing these are function keys, but can someone confirm?

      Yup, mine was like this as well. The "sys" key is your Fn and the blank one hasn't been programmed in by default i think. Once I had it programmed in it worked fine. Gave me one heck of a scare though.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 May 2019, 11:41:50
      There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

      Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: befbef on Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:05:35
      There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

      Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB

      What plate do you have?
      Can get my alu for a pc.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:38:21
      There is a PC plate and weight on mech market right now 👍🏻

      Iím still looking for an alu or brass hhkb plate and possibly a second PCB

      What plate do you have?
      Can get my alu for a pc.

      I currently have a PC. I am thinking about picking up that PC to trade for an alu
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 May 2019, 13:19:18
      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Wed, 15 May 2019, 15:55:51
      My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 May 2019, 16:00:03
      My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.

      I got mine a bit straighter by tightening the middle screws first. I have not gotten to type on it much but my SB seemed to be ok.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:17:06
      My PCB seems to be a bit warped as well, has been giving me minor issues with the space bar stabilizer.

      I got mine a bit straighter by tightening the middle screws first. I have not gotten to type on it much but my SB seemed to be ok.

      Okay, thanks for the idea!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:47:21
      Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

      Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
      This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
      The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

      The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

      (https://imgur.com/WIEbOHF.jpg)

      (https://imgur.com/TEtoTfD.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Wed, 15 May 2019, 18:57:43
      Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

      Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
      This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
      The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

      The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/WIEbOHF.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/TEtoTfD.jpg)


      Where's your cable from? Whole build looking awesome  :thumb:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:06:49
      Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

      Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
      This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
      The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

      The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/WIEbOHF.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/TEtoTfD.jpg)


      Where's your cable from? Whole build looking awesome  :thumb:
      Thanks! Cable I had someone make for me. Here's a guide:
      https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8v52j4/guide_how_to_make_custom_cables_with_fancy/
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rooney on Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:08:42
      I am getting a Leaf60 with the WKL hot swap PCB but was interested in a full layout. I also have the PVD Brass and PC plate for that layout that I would like to trade as well. Would anyone be down for a straight trade? Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 May 2019, 19:44:02
      Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

      Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
      This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
      The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

      The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/WIEbOHF.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/TEtoTfD.jpg)


      I was just talking to someone about that. It is my first gasket mount and I can not really tell a difference. I have the PC plate and there is little to no flex.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 15 May 2019, 21:45:07
      Lots of folks talk about gasket mounting normally helping with sound, more than anything, with harder gasket material. Two things I can say 1)sound is very nice (in a different way than Iím used to for brass) 2) for being sandwich mount, it doesnít feel ďlifelessĒ (like sandwich normally feels like) to me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:07:05
      Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

      Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):

      (https://i.imgur.com/UMZvn0Y.jpg)
      (https://i.imgur.com/kzLhcVm.jpg)
      (https://i.imgur.com/nSmUDvX.jpg)


      Some of my experiences:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:08:29
      Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

      Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/UMZvn0Y.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/kzLhcVm.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/nSmUDvX.jpg)

      Would love to hear some typing sounds of the Linjars, don't seem to see a lot of them around

      Some of my experiences:
      • Had to cut the strip where the usb inserts as other users have mentioned
      • Found it easier to push the screws through the holes before putting the top cover on, made it easier to screw them on
      • Seems like the board catches a lot of fingerprints unfortunately, probably my least favorite part about it
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:13:27
      I think your response was in the quotes, but so far my experience with these Linjars are decent. They do sound and feel nice! Not as smooth as Tealios V2, and maybe it's just the plate material, but I think I prefer the sound of Tealios. I guess I can swap some Tealios in and compare sometime. Honestly, I think I'd probably enjoy them better had I gotten a brass plate as that's my favorite plate material, and I really should've since I got a hotswap PCB.

      Will there be any extra plates (brass, specifically) available in the future? I know there was a post about PCB on IC.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:14:24
      Just finished building mine! Here is my Leaf 60 in E-Black with a black PC plate. Switches are Gateron Linjars, lubed with Tribosys 3204, and stabs are Zeal's (also lubed). Will probably take better pics at some point, but it was an interesting process (finally learned QMK and made the layout to be like an actual HHKB's).

      Some quick snaps below (sry4dust and poor lighting):

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/UMZvn0Y.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/kzLhcVm.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/nSmUDvX.jpg)



      Some of my experiences:
      • Had to cut the strip where the usb inserts as other users have mentioned
      • Found it easier to push the screws through the holes before putting the top cover on, made it easier to screw them on
      • Seems like the board catches a lot of fingerprints unfortunately, probably my least favorite part about it

      please tell me you own yolch
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:15:34
      Built my polycarbonate leaf 60 today with lubed and stickered linjars, brass plate, and GMK 9009.

      Overall it's a really nice board and I'm satisfied with all the components.
      This is my first linear build I'm not sure if I can really notice any distinction major distinction from the gasket mount.
      The brass plate sounds very nice I'll upload a typing test at some point.

      The bottom of the board does have some machine or scratching marks. I don't really mind that much.

      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/WIEbOHF.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://imgur.com/TEtoTfD.jpg)


      I was just talking to someone about that. It is my first gasket mount and I can not really tell a difference. I have the PC plate and there is little to no flex.
      Oh interesting. I was supposed to get an MX PC plate but I got an extra Alps PC plate instead. I was hoping to see the difference between PC and brass.

      If you press down on the alpha keys with some pressure does the plate flex at all?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:32:05
      Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/9edfd368b2bce9a1f5f6ef1961fe04e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/012bcc45654c3ff0ec45e37d7058fd2f.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:32:36
      Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/9edfd368b2bce9a1f5f6ef1961fe04e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/012bcc45654c3ff0ec45e37d7058fd2f.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:47:37
      Built yesterday w tangies. Really enjoying it so far.
      Show Image
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      Show Image
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      that color is very nice
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:52:57
      Murdered out

      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/40b2d66cff8bc6371928f8407b022b6b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/31023da41585c5bfdec18bcef17e67e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/3940744ed6518b4270c303c2346d208f.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 May 2019, 23:56:49
      Murdered out

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      white legends :angry:

      black blanks would have made it but it's still p sick regardless
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rope on Thu, 16 May 2019, 07:35:43
      Got mine today and built it up, really loving it!
      (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/578545204035059723/image0.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 08:28:47
      Murdered out

      Show Image
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      Looking good. I was beginning to think I was the only person who ordered a non-blocker case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ejewell89 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 10:39:50
      Murdered out

      Show Image
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      Looking good. I was beginning to think I was the only person who ordered a non-blocker case.

      I ordered one as well. but dropped my spot haha. Wanted wkl
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:19:23
      Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

      https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

      I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:20:22
      Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

      https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

      I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

      You are a GOD. Thank you
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:22:36
      Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

      https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

      I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

      You are a GOD. Thank you

      lol, I'm not a God. But I am a wizard!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:23:19
      Hey all, QMK Configurator now has the Leaf60 universal and hotswap pcbs!

      https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb

      I would appreciate very much if you guys tested the other layouts such as the 60_ansi and the 60_hhkb as I didn't have a PCB to test things out on! Thank you!

      You are a GOD. Thank you

      lol, I'm not God. But I am a wizard!

      Yerr a wizaaardd Merlin!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Thu, 16 May 2019, 17:08:16
      removed
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Visionaire on Thu, 16 May 2019, 18:37:23
      Murdered out

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      nice
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 16 May 2019, 19:09:00
      Are the plate files going to be / have they been released on this?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 16 May 2019, 22:12:56
      The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 09:55:25
      The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

      Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

      I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Fri, 17 May 2019, 10:07:44
      The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

      Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

      I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

      I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 14:11:46
      Finally got around to unboxing this thing. Mine came with a few blemishes I'll need to contact Senter about, but overall, it's a really nice board. The brass plate and weight really make this feel super solid.

      (https://i.imgur.com/xBiC4wp.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/qXNaoQM.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/2ZGo2vX.jpg)

      (https://i.imgur.com/JRHJdO8.jpg)

      Does anyone else have these weird circle marks on the leaf?

      (https://i.imgur.com/om2K1ZI.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 14:58:26
      Kinda sad I didn't get in on this.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Master_Zebra on Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:00:43
      The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

      Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

      I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

      I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!

      I tried the HHKB layout and the 2 keys to the right of the spacebar are not doing what they are suppose to do, the one next to the space bar does what the second one is suppose to do and the furthest one does nothing. Is it just me? https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Fz79W49gAamwAh7
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Master_Zebra on Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:12:44
      The QMK stuff is fixed now. I was able to edit and flash my leaf with the Configurator and Toolbox

      Yep I posted just a few messages before yours.  :)

      I didn't have a PCB to test with so I would appreciate if you or anyone else could test the hhkb layout in particular if you have that one.

      I have mine in hhkb with a few changes. Itís working great, thanks!

      I tried the HHKB layout and the 2 keys to the right of the spacebar are not doing what they are suppose to do, the one next to the space bar does what the second one is suppose to do and the furthest one does nothing. Is it just me? https://photos.app.goo.gl/t5Fz79W49gAamwAh7

      Yeah, jus tried in the Layout_ALL and the keys are one off on the bottom row on the right side. Merlin said he will be looking into it!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 17 May 2019, 18:42:59
      Finally got around to unboxing this thing. Mine came with a few blemishes I'll need to contact Senter about, but overall, it's a really nice board. The brass plate and weight really make this feel super solid.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/xBiC4wp.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/qXNaoQM.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/2ZGo2vX.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JRHJdO8.jpg)


      Does anyone else have these weird circle marks on the leaf?

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/om2K1ZI.jpg)


      Yeah, I have these marks and the light scratch marks under the weight on the back
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Fri, 17 May 2019, 23:17:15
      Finally got around to unboxing this thing. Mine came with a few blemishes I'll need to contact Senter about, but overall, it's a really nice board. The brass plate and weight really make this feel super solid.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/xBiC4wp.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/qXNaoQM.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/2ZGo2vX.jpg)


      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/JRHJdO8.jpg)


      Does anyone else have these weird circle marks on the leaf?

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/om2K1ZI.jpg)


      Yeah, I have these marks and the light scratch marks under the weight on the back

      Mine as well. Seems like a pretty consistent problem, so likely something to do with the manufacturing process.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 18 May 2019, 00:04:43
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Sat, 18 May 2019, 00:22:21
      Good to see a PC typing test. Thanks!

      Here I have another typing test, this time with SA PBT keycaps.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Slavadavadingdong on Sat, 18 May 2019, 10:22:15
      I sold my PC board, really wish I went for an e-white. Next time, hopefully!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thatsadmummy on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:12:12
      Potato photo but I love this board.  Red samurai + Jamon bacon cap  :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:30:13
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)

      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:35:12
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
      When program it, you can set one key on a separate layer to be the reset button.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: PvtSkittles on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:43:56
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Well I was going to say the reset is Fn+Esc but I think the default Fn key is where RWin should be and you're on a winkeyless build... At least it was for me on the hotswap PCB. Not sure if there's another Fn key mapped somewhere.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:47:57
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Well I was going to say the reset is Fn+Esc but I think the default Fn key is where RWin should be and you're on a winkeyless build... At least it was for me on the hotswap PCB. Not sure if there's another Fn key mapped somewhere.

      Try R. Alt + Esc.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Nostril on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:56:00
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Sat, 18 May 2019, 18:07:10
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      That's what I needed. Fingers crossed they included bootmagic in the default build.

      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Furikurichemy on Sat, 18 May 2019, 19:23:59
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      That's what I needed. Fingers crossed they included bootmagic in the default build.

      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Fn + escape will work too.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 18 May 2019, 19:33:49
      Can confirm space+b when plugging in works for the hotswap PCB for DFU mode.

      Anyone know if these LEDs are RGB? if so, how to use that functionality in QMK (through code)?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Sat, 18 May 2019, 19:51:19
      Can confirm space+b when plugging in works for the hotswap PCB for DFU mode.

      Anyone know if these LEDs are RGB? if so, how to use that functionality in QMK (through code)?
      Just by looking at it they appeared to be two pin SMD LEDs. One color.

      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 18 May 2019, 19:53:38
      (https://i.imgur.com/9khRn8b.jpg)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 19 May 2019, 00:38:39
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      I tried all of these do you know if there are any other methods?

      I flashed a keymap without a reset key and now I can't seem to figure out how to the pcb back in DFU mode.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Sun, 19 May 2019, 00:52:46
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      I tried all of these do you know if there are any other methods?

      I flashed a keymap without a reset key and now I can't seem to figure out how to the pcb back in DFU mode.
      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 19 May 2019, 00:59:50

      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.

      Afaik that only works because the default key map has a reset key on layer 1. The key map I flashed doesnít have that unfortunately.
      My question is if there are any other key combos to reset or will I have to short certain pins on the pcb? 
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Sun, 19 May 2019, 01:11:14

      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.

      Afaik that only works because the default key map has a reset key on layer 1. The key map I flashed doesnít have that unfortunately.
      My question is if there are any other key combos to reset or will I have to short certain pins on the pcb?

      Yes.
      There are no physical reset buttons on the PCB but you can contact the RE pin with the GND on the PCB. There are two RE pins near the MCU. Either one should work.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Sun, 19 May 2019, 02:30:31

      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.

      Afaik that only works because the default key map has a reset key on layer 1. The key map I flashed doesnít have that unfortunately.
      My question is if there are any other key combos to reset or will I have to short certain pins on the pcb?

      Hold spacebar + B while plugging the board in, should work
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Sun, 19 May 2019, 04:56:26
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 19 May 2019, 09:10:23

      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.

      Afaik that only works because the default key map has a reset key on layer 1. The key map I flashed doesnít have that unfortunately.
      My question is if there are any other key combos to reset or will I have to short certain pins on the pcb?

      Thanks! That worked.

      Yes.
      There are no physical reset buttons on the PCB but you can contact the RE pin with the GND on the PCB. There are two RE pins near the MCU. Either one should work.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Sun, 19 May 2019, 09:52:02

      Fn + Esc while the keyboard is plugged.

      Afaik that only works because the default key map has a reset key on layer 1. The key map I flashed doesnít have that unfortunately.
      My question is if there are any other key combos to reset or will I have to short certain pins on the pcb?

      Yes.
      There are no physical reset buttons on the PCB but you can contact the RE pin with the GND on the PCB. There are two RE pins near the MCU. Either one should work.
      Bootmagic space+B worked for me. Thanks for confirming no reset button Senter.

      Also, the LEDs are indeed white single color for those asking.

      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 19 May 2019, 11:16:47
      These are the pins that you can jump to reset the board.

      The far right RE (both pins) and the G on the VOG. Use tweezers or paper clips. When it is plugged into QMK, jump before you flash and it should work.



      [attachimg=1]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 19 May 2019, 12:57:39
      These are the pins that you can jump to reset the board.

      The far right RE (both pins) and the G on the VOG. Use tweezers or paper clips. When it is plugged into QMK, jump before you flash and it should work.



      (Attachment Link)


      Yes.
      There are no physical reset buttons on the PCB but you can contact the RE pin with the GND on the PCB. There are two RE pins near the MCU. Either one should work.
      Thanks guys, got it working a couple hours ago.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lormania on Sun, 19 May 2019, 15:42:48
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sun, 19 May 2019, 16:58:49
      (https://i.imgur.com/IBIbreC.jpg)
      (https://i.imgur.com/O33ngYE.jpg)
      (https://i.imgur.com/4iG3XBB.jpg)
      Leaf 80, Holy Chickies, XDA Oblique (waiting for GMK Minimal)
      Leaf 60, Orange Alps, Japan AEK Keycaps
      Leaf 60, Gateron Linjar, GMK 9009
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Sun, 19 May 2019, 17:05:44
      @thearctican @ArchDill I have implemented Bootmagic Lite, so the escape key will work as a reset while you're plugging in.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 19 May 2019, 17:10:45
      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/IBIbreC.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/O33ngYE.jpg)

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/4iG3XBB.jpg)

      Leaf 80, Holy Chickies, XDA Oblique (waiting for GMK Minimal)
      Leaf 60, Orange Alps, Japan AEK Keycaps
      Leaf 60, Gateron Linjar, GMK 9009

      I really like the shared design language through this series. Canít wait for the Leaf Numpad!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Sun, 19 May 2019, 19:47:23
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      I found these. I think they may be slightly smaller than the ones that came with the board, but I wonít know how well it works until it arrives (4 days from now).
      3M Bumpon SJ5306 Clear Bumper/Spacer Pad - Hemispherical Shaped Bumper - 0.375 in Width x 0.15 in Height - 67560 [PRICE is per PAD] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0080HNTH6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wDF4CbBZ6E0M0
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Sun, 19 May 2019, 22:01:09
      @thearctican @ArchDill I have implemented Bootmagic Lite, so the escape key will work as a reset while you're plugging in.

      Ahh nice! That will help a lot when flashing. I think on my current layout I made fn+esc my reset.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Sun, 19 May 2019, 23:34:33
      Loving mine. I wish I would have gotten 2 cases now.  :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: patch on Mon, 20 May 2019, 09:20:34
      if anyone has an extra pcb (alps or hotswap is fine) and is for sale, let me know. very much interested!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: geewizwow on Mon, 20 May 2019, 09:34:54
      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: befbef on Mon, 20 May 2019, 11:11:51
      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?
      Wrote him 5 days ago because I got the wrong plate color. No answer until now.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Mon, 20 May 2019, 12:53:22
      I just realized I have extras of orange alps, aek keycaps, leaf pcbs, pc plate which is everything needed for an alps build. If anyone wants to buy this stuff let me know.
      spyruf#5870
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 20 May 2019, 14:19:48
      Looking for an extra alu or brushed brass hhkb plate
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Nostril on Mon, 20 May 2019, 18:31:10
      Got it put together! Does anyone know if there is a reset built into the default keymap, or has my eagerness screwed me to take it apart again?
      Show Image
      (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/de01ed56af776b873c2dea15d2a6e964.jpg)


      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

      Try these methods in the "Put your keyboard into DFU mode" section.

      https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/newbs/newbs_flashing

      The space+b and unplug method worked for me.
      I tried all of these do you know if there are any other methods?

      I flashed a keymap without a reset key and now I can't seem to figure out how to the pcb back in DFU mode.

      This was actually the same exact situation that I was in which led me to look this up. But yeah, as others have said the space+B method worked for me. Keep holding it after plugging it in until you hear the windows alert chime on your computer.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Sinapanis on Mon, 20 May 2019, 20:00:21
      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Mon, 20 May 2019, 21:01:20
      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.

      Yeah mines like that too. It's not terrible so I figured it wasn't a big deal.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Mon, 20 May 2019, 21:01:56
      Anyone figured out how to set up the lighting?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 20 May 2019, 23:32:01
      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?

      Hi geewizwow, I neither sent PMs to you nor received one from you. Please PM me again if you have questions.

      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?
      Wrote him 5 days ago because I got the wrong plate color. No answer until now.

      Oh, I missed your message. A reply is coming.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: senter on Mon, 20 May 2019, 23:46:45
      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.

      Yeah mines like that too. It's not terrible so I figured it wasn't a big deal.

      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.

      I guess the screws were not tightened enough due to the e-coating in the screw holes. It was a common issue with e-coating. You can remove the coating with an angle tip tweezer (https://www.amazon.com/Best-Tweezers-Eyelash-Extension-Professional/dp/B0716XZFJX/ref=zg_bs_3779181_18?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KBYHJXHG5G8GGCS2HF9R) then try to tighten the screws again.

      I noticed this issue as early as in the Leaf 80 GB. In this GB, some of the screw holes were blocked before E-coating. Some are not for various reasons. Now as we've learned how to do it, all the screw holes in future E-coating cases will be blocked properly. I'm sorry for the additional confusions and the troubles you got in this GB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: DePulse on Mon, 20 May 2019, 23:48:59
      Hey Senter. I sent you a message too! :D since last week I believe
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: befbef on Tue, 21 May 2019, 02:00:50
      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?


      Anyone heard or got a pm from Senter recently?
      Wrote him 5 days ago because I got the wrong plate color. No answer until now.

      Oh, I missed your message. A reply is coming.

      Thanks, and replied. Is there a better way to contact you? It's really easy to miss pms here.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 08:04:53
      Hey all, I worked with Master Zebra this weekend and fixed the HHKB layout on the Configurator. It should all be working now

      https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_hhkb
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gnhuy91 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 08:44:26
      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.

      Yeah mines like that too. It's not terrible so I figured it wasn't a big deal.

      Anybody else's weight kinda wobbly? It seems like even after I completely tighten the weight screws, there is still wiggle room for it.

      I guess the screws were not tightened enough due to the e-coating in the screw holes. It was a common issue with e-coating. You can remove the coating with an angle tip tweezer (https://www.amazon.com/Best-Tweezers-Eyelash-Extension-Professional/dp/B0716XZFJX/ref=zg_bs_3779181_18?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KBYHJXHG5G8GGCS2HF9R) then try to tighten the screws again.

      I noticed this issue as early as in the Leaf 80 GB. In this GB, some of the screw holes were blocked before E-coating. Some are not for various reasons. Now as we've learned how to do it, all the screw holes in future E-coating cases will be blocked properly. I'm sorry for the additional confusions and the troubles you got in this GB.

      thats awesome! thanks Senter for testing and giving out best practices for the community
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Depresso-the-clown on Wed, 22 May 2019, 19:59:31
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?

      Also looking for this answer, I want to add unnecessary RGB to all my stuff plz
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Wed, 22 May 2019, 20:42:01
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?

      Also looking for this answer, I want to add unnecessary RGB to all my stuff plz
      I was able to solder WS1812 strips to the back of the PCB. Connect the 5v wire to the V pin on the PCB, Data to O, and Ground to G. It's an "open circuit", the arrows should be pointing away, and you don't need to 'close' the circuit by adding more wires.

      However, there isn't enough space for the LEDs in the case so you may have to sand the bottom case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Thu, 23 May 2019, 18:08:13
      I've got a WKL e-white top that I'd like to trade for a regular or HHKB top. PM me if you're interested.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Thu, 23 May 2019, 18:45:05
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      I found these. I think they may be slightly smaller than the ones that came with the board, but I wonít know how well it works until it arrives (4 days from now).
      3M Bumpon SJ5306 Clear Bumper/Spacer Pad - Hemispherical Shaped Bumper - 0.375 in Width x 0.15 in Height - 67560 [PRICE is per PAD] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0080HNTH6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wDF4CbBZ6E0M0

      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Ever so slightly smaller, but I think it looks way better than black.



      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Nostril on Thu, 23 May 2019, 23:09:30
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Huh, mine came with clear bumpons. I ordered the PC case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 23 May 2019, 23:19:53
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Huh, mine came with clear bumpons. I ordered the PC case.

      I think he is just wanting extras... or lost one maybe?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Thu, 23 May 2019, 23:49:05
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Huh, mine came with clear bumpons. I ordered the PC case.

      I think he is just wanting extras... or lost one maybe?

      Haha, nope. Mine came with black bumpons  :-[
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rooney on Thu, 23 May 2019, 23:54:07
      Did the MX Universal PCB come with hotswappable sockets? I have a Tsangan PCB that I was looking to trade for a MX Universal PCB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Nostril on Fri, 24 May 2019, 00:01:42
      Loving this board! It's my first gasket mount - which certainly gives it a nice feel.

      I finished building a while ago but finally got around to sorting out the pictures.

      Here's my unboxing/build log/photos if anyone is interested:
      https://imgur.com/a/kVsbCGi
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rooney on Fri, 24 May 2019, 00:03:49
      Loving this board! It's my first gasket mount - which certainly gives it a nice feel.

      I finished building a while ago but finally got around to sorting out the pictures.

      Here's my unboxing/build log/photos if anyone is interested:
      https://imgur.com/a/kVsbCGi

      That is absolutely stunning! I love the photos, great build!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Slimjim095 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 03:24:27
      Iíll buy someoneís spot if they donít want it


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      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: E3E on Fri, 24 May 2019, 03:26:55
       ^-^
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gnhuy91 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 05:10:02
      did anyone have problem with gaskets? mine is longer than the spot so its kinda hard to make then align to screw holes
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aznguyen316 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 07:52:13
      Loving this board! It's my first gasket mount - which certainly gives it a nice feel.

      I finished building a while ago but finally got around to sorting out the pictures.

      Here's my unboxing/build log/photos if anyone is interested:
      https://imgur.com/a/kVsbCGi

      Thanks for sharing.  Looks super nice.  Made me consider the zeal stabs for upcoming PC Think6.5.. hmm
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Fri, 24 May 2019, 08:32:38
      Thanks for sharing.  Looks super nice.  Made me consider the zeal stabs for upcoming PC Think6.5.. hmm
      Stay away from zeal stabs, they flip out of their seats quite easily when you try to pull the keycaps, especially with the spacebar's.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aznguyen316 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 08:33:37
      Thanks for sharing.  Looks super nice.  Made me consider the zeal stabs for upcoming PC Think6.5.. hmm
      Stay away for zeal stabs, they flip out of their seats quite easily when you try to pull the keycaps, especially with the spacebar's.

      Oh interesting. That would be annoying! Thanks for the heads up.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Fri, 24 May 2019, 16:56:51
      How did you guys turn on the lighting?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Lormania on Fri, 24 May 2019, 20:26:06
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      I found these. I think they may be slightly smaller than the ones that came with the board, but I wonít know how well it works until it arrives (4 days from now).
      3M Bumpon SJ5306 Clear Bumper/Spacer Pad - Hemispherical Shaped Bumper - 0.375 in Width x 0.15 in Height - 67560 [PRICE is per PAD] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0080HNTH6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wDF4CbBZ6E0M0

      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Ever so slightly smaller, but I think it looks way better than black.

      I ordered the same ones thanks to you! Much appreciated!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 24 May 2019, 20:36:52
      How did you guys turn on the lighting?

      By default mine was toggled with "fn + Q". Brightness lowered with "fn + W". Brightness increased with "fn + E", or if you are setting it up in QMK use: BL_TOGG, BL_DEC, BL_INC in your keymap.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Fri, 24 May 2019, 20:37:26
      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      I found these. I think they may be slightly smaller than the ones that came with the board, but I wonít know how well it works until it arrives (4 days from now).
      3M Bumpon SJ5306 Clear Bumper/Spacer Pad - Hemispherical Shaped Bumper - 0.375 in Width x 0.15 in Height - 67560 [PRICE is per PAD] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0080HNTH6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wDF4CbBZ6E0M0

      Has anyone found the same sized bumpons but clear online anywhere?

      Ever so slightly smaller, but I think it looks way better than black.

      I ordered the same ones thanks to you! Much appreciated!

      No problem, happy to help  :D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: rooney on Sat, 25 May 2019, 09:28:47
      How do you setup rgb strip for under glow?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 25 May 2019, 09:36:14
      Dang, I didnít realize there were clear bumpons, I got black ones with my PC case.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TheMastermind on Sat, 25 May 2019, 10:52:32
      Was there an option for polished brass weights? Mine was pretty rough. It's not a big deal if not but just curious.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: juaninamilli on Sat, 25 May 2019, 10:53:54
      Yes there was. You had the option between sandblasted raw or PVD.
      Was there an option for polished brass weights? Mine was pretty rough. It's not a big deal if not but just curious.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Sun, 26 May 2019, 21:42:42
      Just built up my board. QMK configurator doesn't seem to have the default builds. Will they be added in again?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lukelex on Mon, 27 May 2019, 01:56:19
      Just built up my board. QMK configurator doesn't seem to have the default builds. Will they be added in again?
      What do you mean? The key map is here https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/foxlab/leaf60/universal/keymaps/default/keymap.c

      Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 27 May 2019, 02:12:11
      @cepate11 the defaults aren't included in QMK Configurator but they are included in QMK Firmware. With fast input mode, you can actually build the default in about 45-60 seconds on the QMK Configurator.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Mon, 27 May 2019, 14:54:43
      Got it thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MdotMaxson on Tue, 28 May 2019, 05:22:04
      Anyone have a e-white leaf 60 in HHKB top they would like to sell this desperate fellow?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Tue, 28 May 2019, 22:27:49
      HELP! Flashed Leaf 60 with QMK and now my backspace doesn't work

      I used the online configurator https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_ansi and I know that the backspace button worked before I flashed, but not so much now.

      $ sudo make foxlab/leaf60/universal:redux1:dfu

      Suggestions?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 28 May 2019, 23:20:43
      HELP! Flashed Leaf 60 with QMK and now my backspace doesn't work

      I used the online configurator https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_ansi and I know that the backspace button worked before I flashed, but not so much now.

      $ sudo make foxlab/leaf60/universal:redux1:dfu

      Suggestions?

      Can you try the LAYOUT_all macro and see which of the top keys works as backspace?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Furikurichemy on Wed, 29 May 2019, 22:29:03
      Didn't find any posts on it yet, but has anyone managed to add underglow strips to the universal pcb?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yemeisong on Wed, 29 May 2019, 23:16:05
      Didn't find any posts on it yet, but has anyone managed to add underglow strips to the universal pcb?
      I did, check my previous response.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Thu, 30 May 2019, 08:21:58
      HELP! Flashed Leaf 60 with QMK and now my backspace doesn't work

      I used the online configurator https://config.qmk.fm/#/foxlab/leaf60/universal/LAYOUT_60_ansi and I know that the backspace button worked before I flashed, but not so much now.

      $ sudo make foxlab/leaf60/universal:redux1:dfu

      Suggestions?

      Can you try the LAYOUT_all macro and see which of the top keys works as backspace?

      I used the LAYOUT_ALL as a guide and fixed it up. It seems the one on the website simply doesn't have anything mapped to that key
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 30 May 2019, 08:53:11
      @eagleheardt can you send me your info.json? I need to figure out which of the two keys you used.

      You can send it to me on discord mechmerlin#2999
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Furikurichemy on Thu, 30 May 2019, 09:31:10
      Didn't find any posts on it yet, but has anyone managed to add underglow strips to the universal pcb?
      I did, check my previous response.

      Thanks a ton! Definitely missed that post.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: -musubi on Thu, 30 May 2019, 17:56:45
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?

      Also looking for this answer, I want to add unnecessary RGB to all my stuff plz
      I was able to solder WS1812 strips to the back of the PCB. Connect the 5v wire to the V pin on the PCB, Data to O, and Ground to G. It's an "open circuit", the arrows should be pointing away, and you don't need to 'close' the circuit by adding more wires.

      However, there isn't enough space for the LEDs in the case so you may have to sand the bottom case.

      Do you have any pictures of your set up? And are you saying that if you were to add individual rgb lights to the back or a stand-alone strip thereíd be no space within the case? Thanks!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: spyruf on Sat, 01 June 2019, 16:45:52
      (https://i.imgur.com/jbIkMhr.jpg)
      I've posted way too many pictures of my leafs but I finally got a 7u spacebar. It's OEM or Cherry profile and a little higher than the aek profile but it looks better than having a shorter spacebar imo.

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: open0700 on Mon, 03 June 2019, 05:02:54
      Give me a way to turn on the leaf60 light
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 03 June 2019, 07:29:52
      Give me a way to turn on the leaf60 light

      You can use the appropriate RGB_XXXXX or BL_XXXXXX keycodes for that.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: dk4one on Mon, 03 June 2019, 07:39:07
      Sent you a message with problem on my order.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: davidL on Fri, 07 June 2019, 08:28:43
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?

      Also looking for this answer, I want to add unnecessary RGB to all my stuff plz
      I was able to solder WS1812 strips to the back of the PCB. Connect the 5v wire to the V pin on the PCB, Data to O, and Ground to G. It's an "open circuit", the arrows should be pointing away, and you don't need to 'close' the circuit by adding more wires.

      However, there isn't enough space for the LEDs in the case so you may have to sand the bottom case.

      Do you have any pictures of your set up? And are you saying that if you were to add individual rgb lights to the back or a stand-alone strip thereíd be no space within the case? Thanks!

      just wanted to share how I wired up my RGB strips

      https://imgur.com/a/aAavK1d

      5V and GND are parallel between all the LED's, so you can bridge any two respective pads for >1 strip
      Data In is series, so it starts at one end and you must bridge each discontinuity.
      I ordered my strips from keebio, these seem to fit the hotswap pcb just fine. I would suppose the regular pcb has more clearance.
      Also remember to correct the qty of LED's in the config.h file. Hope this helps.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: -musubi on Fri, 14 June 2019, 11:40:07
      has anyone tried to add underglow strips?

      Also looking for this answer, I want to add unnecessary RGB to all my stuff plz
      I was able to solder WS1812 strips to the back of the PCB. Connect the 5v wire to the V pin on the PCB, Data to O, and Ground to G. It's an "open circuit", the arrows should be pointing away, and you don't need to 'close' the circuit by adding more wires.

      However, there isn't enough space for the LEDs in the case so you may have to sand the bottom case.

      Do you have any pictures of your set up? And are you saying that if you were to add individual rgb lights to the back or a stand-alone strip thereíd be no space within the case? Thanks!

      just wanted to share how I wired up my RGB strips

      https://imgur.com/a/aAavK1d

      5V and GND are parallel between all the LED's, so you can bridge any two respective pads for >1 strip
      Data In is series, so it starts at one end and you must bridge each discontinuity.
      I ordered my strips from keebio, these seem to fit the hotswap pcb just fine. I would suppose the regular pcb has more clearance.
      Also remember to correct the qty of LED's in the config.h file. Hope this helps.

      Thanks!! This is great information :)
      Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 16 June 2019, 15:07:23
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: He1dra on Sun, 16 June 2019, 17:59:06
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      I got the wkl plate but I had the same issue with all the stab holes, had to cut them larger for GMK stabs.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 16 June 2019, 19:30:26
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      My E Red plate has similar problem. Turns out you just need to push it through harder and it will work. It's just a very tight fit. What I ended up doing is, try to get the stabs through the hole at an angle, eg try to get the bottom side of the stabs though, then push the top side of the plate with force and get the whole stab through that way.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 16 June 2019, 20:20:05
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      My E Red plate has similar problem. Turns out you just need to push it through harder and it will work. It's just a very tight fit. What I ended up doing is, try to get the stabs through the hole at an angle, eg try to get the bottom side of the stabs though, then push the top side of the plate with force and get the whole stab through that way.
      I was able to force the stabs through. However, itís so tight that the stab stems stick and wonít return to full heights after a key press. Luckily I havenít soldered anything, just tested them out.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 16 June 2019, 23:27:42
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      My E Red plate has similar problem. Turns out you just need to push it through harder and it will work. It's just a very tight fit. What I ended up doing is, try to get the stabs through the hole at an angle, eg try to get the bottom side of the stabs though, then push the top side of the plate with force and get the whole stab through that way.
      I was able to force the stabs through. However, itís so tight that the stab stems stick and wonít return to full heights after a key press. Luckily I havenít soldered anything, just tested them out.

      Hmm the stab stems don't touch the plate stab opening though. My plate, despite having tight stab holes, doesn't affect the stab stems at all. Are you sure it's the tight stem opening that causes this?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cepate11 on Mon, 17 June 2019, 17:35:52
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      I can confirm on my universal brass plate it seemed like it would not fit over the Enter stabilizer, but it just need to be pressed down a little more. It was snug but did not interfere with the operation of the stabilizer at all.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 17 June 2019, 21:46:20
      The ďEnterĒ stab hole on the universal E White plate is not large enough to fit the stabilizer housings through. Iíve tried GMK and some generic stabs that I have and neither fit. Anyone else have this issue?

      I can confirm on my universal brass plate it seemed like it would not fit over the Enter stabilizer, but it just need to be pressed down a little more. It was snug but did not interfere with the operation of the stabilizer at all.

      The size is okay, but it is upside down than usual 60% PCB. So be careful if you're using other PCBs
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Thu, 20 June 2019, 11:57:42
      [attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hokabuki on Thu, 20 June 2019, 23:41:44
      (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
      Iíd have to wear sunglasses to use that board. Love it!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: beekey on Fri, 21 June 2019, 00:42:34
      (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
      Thats not the yellow anno, right? What kind of finish is it?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 21 June 2019, 01:09:52
      (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
      Thats not the yellow anno, right? What kind of finish is it?

      e-yellow
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Fri, 21 June 2019, 16:28:11
      (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
      Thats not the yellow anno, right? What kind of finish is it?

      Itís Cerakote
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 21 June 2019, 17:01:11
      Itís Cerakote

      Pretty sure it's electrophoresis (hence e-yellow, like the e-white and e-red that were offered during GB) as mentioned by Lanyusea above, it was shown as a prototype a bunch of pages back.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 June 2019, 17:03:00
      (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

      amazing color!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Fri, 21 June 2019, 17:22:10
      E-Yellow looks beautiful, but e-while is the new black ;D Here's another video, this time code typing with SA Vilebloom
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Fri, 21 June 2019, 17:54:39
      Itís Cerakote

      Pretty sure it's electrophoresis (hence e-yellow, like the e-white and e-red that were offered during GB) as mentioned by Lanyusea above, it was shown as a prototype a bunch of pages back.

      No Iím certain itís Cerakote because I had it applied. Originally it was anodized yellow but there were some very visible flaws. I took it to a shop and had it applied 
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Fri, 21 June 2019, 17:56:31
      E-Yellow looks beautiful, but e-while is the new black ;D Here's another video, this time code typing with SA Vilebloom
      Haha touchŤ
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 21 June 2019, 19:30:39
      No Iím certain itís Cerakote because I had it applied. Originally it was anodized yellow but there were some very visible flaws. I took it to a shop and had it applied

      Oh rofl I hadn't seen it was your board, the colour was super similar to the one shown a few pages back so I just figured it was that board (or another sample).
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: eagleheardt on Tue, 25 June 2019, 09:31:05
      Are you going to send out email alerts when the numpad IC/GB goes up? :)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 25 June 2019, 21:21:21
      Itís Cerakote

      Pretty sure it's electrophoresis (hence e-yellow, like the e-white and e-red that were offered during GB) as mentioned by Lanyusea above, it was shown as a prototype a bunch of pages back.

      No Iím certain itís Cerakote because I had it applied. Originally it was anodized yellow but there were some very visible flaws. I took it to a shop and had it applied

      wow, then the color is amazing.
      so sad I cannot find a verfied Cerakote vendor in China
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Tue, 25 June 2019, 22:23:00
      wow, then the color is amazing.
      so sad I cannot find a verfied Cerakote vendor in China

      Well, in the event that you find someone the color I used is Corvette Yellow:
      https://www.cerakote.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES

      I tried to visually match it to the e-yellow photo posted earlier.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: etong415 on Thu, 27 June 2019, 12:06:17
      Does anyone else's keyboard disconnect frequently? It seems to be happening to be at least once or twice a day.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Mon, 01 July 2019, 00:21:04
      hmmm....
      I can't get the Hex file to flash. It keeps telling me:
      Error opening foxlab_leaf60_universal_leaf60ansi.hex
          See --debug=51 or greater for more information.

      Has anyone else had this issue? Not sure what I'm doing wrong or how to correct it
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: crd on Mon, 01 July 2019, 01:21:52
      Havenít had any trouble with my PCB. I pretty much immediately flashed my own keymap from the qmk repo so I never tried any defaults
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Mon, 01 July 2019, 12:04:33
      Does anyone have a working standard 60% ANSI layout with split right shift .hex and .json files for the Leaf60 they'd mind sharing?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 02 July 2019, 05:15:55
      Let there be RGB.

      (https://i.imgur.com/NRZh7M6.gif)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Tue, 02 July 2019, 07:02:50
      Let there be RGB.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NRZh7M6.gif)


      Oooh how did you do that?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 02 July 2019, 08:54:53
      Oooh how did you do that?

      It's a PCB customized for leaf 60 with middle usb type-c port, and RGB, running QMK. A friend designed it and ran a small GB among friends for it about two weeks ago. Shipped in these two days.

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: boog on Tue, 02 July 2019, 17:54:10
      Does anyone else's keyboard disconnect frequently? It seems to be happening to be at least once or twice a day.

      Yep, I experience this a couple times per week as well... I thought it was my USB cable at first. I unplug my cable and plug it back in then it works again.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gitcommit on Wed, 03 July 2019, 16:12:37
      Does anyone have a Unikorn and a Leaf to compare? I want to know if the gasket system in the Leaf feels any different or sonic differences between the two, since they both use a different gasket system
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: nephlock on Wed, 03 July 2019, 16:21:01
      Anyone interested in swapping brass?

      Iíve got a PVD weight and plate, and Iíd like to trade for non-PVD ones
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Thu, 04 July 2019, 18:42:36
      [attachimg=1]

      It’s alive!
      Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 04 July 2019, 18:45:55
      (Attachment Link)

      Itís alive!

      What are the details for this yellow board? How is it coated?

      Edit: nevermind I see itís ceracoated. Looks great!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: reidd on Thu, 04 July 2019, 18:46:38
      (Attachment Link)

      Itís alive!

      What's the artisan  :eek: looks amazing
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MeloDet on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:29:54
      Does anyone else's keyboard disconnect frequently? It seems to be happening to be at least once or twice a day.

      Yep, I experience this a couple times per week as well... I thought it was my USB cable at first. I unplug my cable and plug it back in then it works again.

      Pretty sure the issue here is the USB port placement/seating. I find that my cable doesn't really plug in all the way, so it can wiggle and disconnect as a result.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: tootle on Thu, 04 July 2019, 20:36:12
      Is there a plate file anywhere? Looking to change it up.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: macclack on Fri, 05 July 2019, 00:47:46
      (Attachment Link)

      Itís alive!

      What's the artisan  :eek: looks amazing

      It was made by Hot Keys Project and sold on Massdrop around the time Serika went on sale: https://drop.com/buy/63250#overview
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: EMC Labs on Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:15:18
      (Attachment Link)

      Itís alive!

      What's the artisan  :eek: looks amazing

      They look pretty cool, matched so well with the set and board I didn't even notice them.

      It was made by Hot Keys Project and sold on Massdrop around the time Serika went on sale: https://drop.com/buy/63250#overview
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Fri, 05 July 2019, 10:25:10
      I have a clear PC, regular layout, PVD gold brass plate, PVD gold brass weight I am looking to sell. It's been sitting in the box since I got it. I haven't built it because I don't think I can use this size keyboard for my daily use, still stuck on my Novatouch.

      Shoot me a PM if you are interested in purchasing.

      EDIT: Sold.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: TuCZnak on Sun, 07 July 2019, 02:17:14
      Since this GB is done, are there any plans to launch Leaf 75 soon?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hhkbp2 on Sun, 07 July 2019, 12:44:49
      Let there be RGB.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NRZh7M6.gif)


      Oooh how did you do that?

      Open sale for this PCB:

      https://old.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/ca73s5/cnh_viper_eagle_v2_leaf60gh60_compatible_pcb_w/

      Grab one if you're interested
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 07 July 2019, 13:21:56
      Let there be RGB.

      Show Image
      (https://i.imgur.com/NRZh7M6.gif)


      Oooh how did you do that?

      Open sale for this PCB:

      https://old.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/ca73s5/cnh_viper_eagle_v2_leaf60gh60_compatible_pcb_w/

      Grab one if you're interested

      Thank you! Sent a PM.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: gitcommit on Tue, 09 July 2019, 18:07:22
      If anyone has a spare universal pcb, please let me know! Interested in buying one.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: liangalv on Wed, 10 July 2019, 20:06:52
      Hello, I just received one of these board off a seller on mech market, and was wondering if the HS PCB had any functionality coming out of the box, it's not registering any inputs so far, would I have to flash QMK firmware for it to operate?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: victorpre on Fri, 12 July 2019, 03:50:30
      Are there any extra (non-hotswap) PCBs by any chance?  ;D
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: liangalv on Fri, 12 July 2019, 04:13:46
      Hey does anyone want to trade a HHKB brass top for standard brass one, or was the iteration never made?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Gomzip on Sun, 14 July 2019, 20:57:05
      PM
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: heloitsame on Mon, 15 July 2019, 23:51:09
      if anyone wants to part with a wkl top in basically any color (preferred ewhite, mao white, alu or eblack) i'd be willing to purchase it! can PM here or on reddit which would get a quicker reply (same username: u/heloitsame)
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: liangalv on Thu, 18 July 2019, 02:26:40
      Does anyone have any idea how to source additional feet and gaskets?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:18:52
      Would anyone with an e-white regular or HHKB top like to trade for an e-white WKL top?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Aevyn on Mon, 22 July 2019, 23:23:14
      Trying to sell my PVD brass plate (HHKB). I ended up using my PC plate

      Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 28 July 2019, 16:53:33
      Soldered my Universal PCB with an ANSI layout. Afterwards, I tested it and all keys registered. However, once I flashed my own hex to it, backspace stopped registering. I tried a different hex and it still didn't register a stroke. I used the QMK configurator. Any help would be appreciated.

      Edit: mechmerlin notified and fix made in QMK
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 31 July 2019, 11:47:06
      So I don't know if anyone else would be interested in this, but on a whim I decided to dremel off the screw holes on the plate and I noticed a surprising improvement in the sound of the board. I did also move from 3203 to 3204, but I doubt that accounts for the full difference. Might be worth considering!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Pitrek on Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:46:59
      Hello,

      could you please tell me what are the dimensions of the case?  ;)

      Thank you,
      Peter
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ilikerustoo on Sun, 11 August 2019, 10:32:08
      Anyone have an extra universal PCB and a PC alps plate?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 20 August 2019, 14:41:51
      Anyone have an idea of where to find more of the gaskets/bumpons? Considering getting the board cerakoted and I assume I'd need to remove the bumpons
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: thearctican on Tue, 20 August 2019, 18:37:09
      Anyone have an idea of where to find more of the gaskets/bumpons? Considering getting the board cerakoted and I assume I'd need to remove the bumpons
      Might be a good time to try and source different gasket material. The ones it came with are quite stiff.

      Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Tue, 27 August 2019, 17:40:41
      What size are the screws? I'm going to tap the holes because of the e-coating that got into them.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ilikerustoo on Thu, 29 August 2019, 18:11:43
      Anyone have experience with the leaf60 and alps? I'm wondering if there are people who cut their alps legs a bit to make a nicer fit?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: aslanxdeft on Tue, 10 September 2019, 07:36:07
      Hi, I'm having a little problem that is weird to me. I changed my keycaps from epbt to dsa yesterday. Now my c key feels kinda scratchy when I press it on the lowest end of the cap. I already tried changing to a different dsa cap and the problem still exists, so it has the be the switch. The problem didn't occur with epbt though. Any tips?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: koenoe on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:02:17
      Anyone has the plate files? Also looking to trade my hot-swap pcb for a solderable pcb.
      Please PM if you can help me with plate files and/or interested in the pcb trade.

      Edit: plate file received from senter, thank you <3
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Von Steve on Wed, 11 September 2019, 15:38:10
      I'm looking to buy a solderable pcb if anyone has an extra one!
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Little4Real on Wed, 11 September 2019, 22:37:05
      Does anyone have the ALPS plate files? Would certainly appreciate it if someone can help me with it.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: hxpers on Thu, 17 October 2019, 07:38:55
      Hey all, if anyone happens to have a spare HHKB/WKL PCB for this, I'm willing to pay a fair amount for it. Please let me know.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: jiezhou on Fri, 18 October 2019, 12:43:55
      Hey all, if anyone happens to have a spare HHKB/WKL PCB for this, I'm willing to pay a fair amount for it. Please let me know.

      Check this out mate:
      https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100500.0
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: victorpre on Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:00:40
      Anyone has the plate files? Also looking to trade my hot-swap pcb for a solderable pcb.
      Please PM if you can help me with plate files and/or interested in the pcb trade.

      Edit: plate file received from senter, thank you <3
      Wondering if there is anywhere in EU where I could cut a PC plate

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 19:16:03
      Anyone has the plate files? Also looking to trade my hot-swap pcb for a solderable pcb.
      Please PM if you can help me with plate files and/or interested in the pcb trade.

      Edit: plate file received from senter, thank you <3
      Wondering if there is anywhere in EU where I could cut a PC plate

      Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

      Someone in the LZ CLS thread got a PC plate from these guys https://waterworxx.de/ Not transparent though.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: ComebaX on Wed, 27 November 2019, 03:40:36
      Hey, Senter! Would it be possible to obtain a plate file? I was careless with my PC plate during rebuild  :mad:
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: LuiKang on Fri, 03 January 2020, 13:15:36
      Anyone wants to trade his black pc (hhkb or wkl and preferably pc plate) with my e-white Leaf60? (Mine has a brass and an alu plate).

      Picture and typing tests
      https://preview.redd.it/lqws5sbnss231.jpg?width=6016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68201daf255e77c4c78022768c5f8b4161377fb2

      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: EmptySpace on Sun, 05 January 2020, 20:40:16
      Am I way too late? I love the look of this keyboard...would be my first GB.
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: vsrnth on Sun, 05 January 2020, 20:52:11
      Am I way too late? I love the look of this keyboard...would be my first GB.
      Sorry buddy, the group buy has been over for months now.

      Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: Fredington on Wed, 08 January 2020, 08:11:06
      Senter could I get the plate file for HHKB? I scratched mine badly during a rebuild =(
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: kidpid on Wed, 08 January 2020, 19:04:16
      Did anyone ever get softer gaskets made for this board?
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: happycamper87 on Sun, 12 January 2020, 22:48:36
      Does anyone have the plate files for this board?  I emailed senter about it but I guess he's busy with the key65. Planning to get a pc plate cut. Many thanks in advance
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: prangano on Sun, 12 January 2020, 22:55:06
      Does anyone have the plate files for this board?  I emailed senter about it but I guess he's busy with the key65. Planning to get a pc plate cut. Many thanks in advance
      I think it's this one: https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Leaf-60.html
      Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Leaf 60
      Post by: happycamper87 on Mon, 13 January 2020, 02:12:12
      Thank you very much!