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Keyboards / Re: The Wonders of IBM Model M's Secret Keys!
« Last post by Mandan on Sun, 16 July 2023, 19:26:52 »
It might depend on when the keyboard is made.  I had a Model M with a manufacture date of 10 NOV 86 at hand; it has one extra barrel under the "C" key, under the left side of the spacebar.  Plus the usual extra barrels under both Shifts, Enter, Insert, and the keypad Enter keys.

There aren't any barrels under the frame tabs.  The barrels on the ctrl and alt keys are 2-3mm taller than the tabs anyway.

I have some other Ms, but I'll have to dig them out and pop some keys off to see what they look like.
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Keyboards / Re: New Model F with 104 Layout - Yay!
« Last post by Mandan on Sun, 16 July 2023, 18:59:36 »
Quote from: Pretendo on Fri, 28 April 2023, 11:39:09
Oh yes, they are pricey for computer keyboards.

An 84-key F/AT keyboard cost the the equivalent of $670 2023 dollars.  IBM had a separate SKU if you wanted just the keyboard without the computer.  And IBM amortized that $670 across multiple product lines and hundreds of thousands of sales, saving them a bunch of money compared to small-batch boutique production.

$420+options doesn't seem all that expensive, considering.
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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] SONIC170 - a fun 65% with knob and LED macro module | 7/15~7/30
« Last post by metalskim on Sun, 16 July 2023, 16:38:40 »
Hi there, is there any chance of getting more reviewers on YouTube for us Western viewers?  Also, it says it is gasket mounted but none of the Asia reviewers that posted test the flex at all of the gasket.  If you could have some more information and possibly video footage on that, that would be much appreciated!

Thanks.
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Making Stuff Together! / Re: TMK USB to USB keyboard converter
« Last post by Ko$tello on Sun, 16 July 2023, 16:25:11 »
Hi Hasu,
I tested the latest debug firmware and it seems to be working fine. Please see the output below.

Would you be able to create hex files with F24, F23 and F22 hooks, with and without modifiers that work with this keyboard?
Your help on this would be highly appreciated 🙏

Code: [Select]
Waiting for device:
Listening:
usb_state: 20
usb_state: 40
usb_state: 50
usb_state: 51
BM Init
Addr:01
NC:01
HID_PROTOCOL_KEYBOARD
bNumEP:03
Cnf:01
bIfaceNum:02
bNumIface:00

Interface:01
SET_PROTOCOL: 00
SET_IDLE: 00
RPIPE: 00

Interface:02
SET_PROTOCOL: 00
SET_IDLE: 00
RPIPE: 00
BM configured
host.Task: 2322
usb_state: 90
speed: full
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Keyboards / Re: New Model F with 104 Layout - Yay!
« Last post by Ellipse on Sun, 16 July 2023, 16:12:28 »
There are many reviews on the new Model F keyboards clay.  The new models are built with the same materials and standards (steel plates, metal case) as the 4,000 F62 and F77 keyboards that have shipped since 2019. 

PC World did a review on the compact F104 here:  https://www.pcworld.com/article/1928356/model-f-ultra-compact-keyboard-review.html

Various reviews are gathered on this page:  https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/press/
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Artisan Services / Re: [TerraKeycaps] Antique Brass Plated Alpha & Beta Geometrical Keycaps
« Last post by TerraKeycaps on Sun, 16 July 2023, 15:28:05 »
Reserved  :llama:
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Keyboards / Re: New Model F with 104 Layout - Yay!
« Last post by clay on Sun, 16 July 2023, 15:20:58 »
Has anyone purchased the ultra compact F104 or FSSK already? I'm contemplating buying one for 3 months already. I just want to make sure that it actually feels good and is built well. 450 usd is no joke and I live far from the US
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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] GMK Shadow | GB ended
« Last post by pixelpusher on Sun, 16 July 2023, 13:09:01 »
Quote from: DuellM on Fri, 14 July 2023, 03:21:10
Has anyone seen any photos of the finished keyset? I was interested in buying an extra but wanted to see it irl first

I was in the same boat.  There are some pics on their discord:

300614-0
300616-1
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] Berceste WKL65% Keyboard
« Last post by Furki on Sun, 16 July 2023, 13:01:52 »
These are the colour renders for the GB

Beige (powder coating)



Blue (Ano)



Lavender (Ano)



Burgundy (Ano)



Rose (Ano)



Silver (Ano)

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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] KEYKOBO RED CYRILLIC - GB from 7th to August 1st.
« Last post by HoffmanMyster on Sun, 16 July 2023, 12:51:15 »
Approved :thumb:

PSA to prospective buyers:
Group Buys are inherently risky endeavors. There is an element of risk involved with collecting payment before the item has been produced and resulting uncertainty during manufacturing / subsequent operations. We urge all GB organizers to consider (and document) these risks, and want to make it clear to all who consider purchasing that these risks are present.

If you are unfamiliar with the Group Buy model, please read this primer - Group Buy FAQ / Buying Guidelines

This PSA is new and will become standard on all Group Buys moving forward. It is not posted on this GB in isolation and is not singling this organizer out in particular as someone to be wary of.
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