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Title: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: briano1905 on Sat, 15 September 2018, 08:46:44
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GMK White on Black (WoB) Hiragana

Clean and simple hiragana mono legend black and white keyset for ≤65% keyboards

kits

kits are not finalized and it may change

base kit

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40s kit

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renders

Oblotzsky's renders

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Janglad's renders

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colors

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Colors used in this set: CR and WS1
also used in other GMK sets: White on Black, Originative, Grìseann

vendors

https://novelkeys.xyz/ (https://novelkeys.xyz/) (North America)

https://mykeyboard.eu/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/) (Europe)

https://dailyclack.com/ (https://dailyclack.com/) (Asia / Oceanic)

banner

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: wixxzblu on Sat, 15 September 2018, 08:50:16
this would be much better with dual legends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: quaddepos on Sat, 15 September 2018, 08:53:50
1. Why not just offer the alphas

There are multi IC's / GB going on with the black/white color scheme offering just the alphas would be nice to combine them together.

2. Why just kbdfans?

Would offering proxy's around the globe to be better then just going through kbdfans?

3. What color will the black and white be.

4. No stepped caps?


Overall I like the idea, if you need any help you let me know and we can talk on discord or something.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 15 September 2018, 08:57:39
Would love this in PBT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Kawamashi on Sat, 15 September 2018, 09:03:12
I like this set. I'll be fine with alphas only, but I'll have a set anyway.

this would be much better with dual legends
Hiragana-only sets are very rare, I'd be much less interested if the kit were dual legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 15 September 2018, 09:35:43
I think it would be better to just run alphas alone? or at least make it into a TKL
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:03:35
Just filled out the form. I’d love to see a couple more 1u mods for Planck compatibility. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:35:07
This is stupidly cool. Hoping it will have 1.5u Diamond too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: avid on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:38:25
Would you consider doing an add-on kit with gaijin kit too? Maybe just the alphas? Would love both gaijin + hiragana options for wob.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Jacob4341 on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:42:28
+1 for alphas only :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: blakstealth on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:55:54
looks clean
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: glubazoid on Sat, 15 September 2018, 11:02:06
This is stupidly cool. Hoping it will have 1.5u Diamond too.

Filled out the form, this is my only issue as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Remsky on Sat, 15 September 2018, 12:17:21
You say no tkl because of cost, then you support 65 and ISO which arent as popular? Okay. I get that tkl supp might not look better with hiragana, but still.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 15 September 2018, 12:23:52
1. Why not just offer the alphas

There are multi IC's / GB going on with the black/white color scheme offering just the alphas would be nice to combine them together.

2. Why just kbdfans?

Would offering proxy's around the globe to be better then just going through kbdfans?

3. What color will the black and white be.

4. No stepped caps?


Overall I like the idea, if you need any help you let me know and we can talk on discord or something.

1. The set would be weird with text mods, having to buy another whole set just to get icon mods & use the alphas is janky.

2. kbdfans is lit, their customer service is very hard trade s-tier artisan trade level.

3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.

4. There is literally a stepped caps in the render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 15 September 2018, 13:05:31
You say no tkl because of cost, then you support 65 and ISO which arent as popular? Okay. I get that tkl supp might not look better with hiragana, but still.

65 is super hot right now, I'm starting to see that & smaller boards more often than TKLs.

RAMA's doing that 65 which has hot-swappable switches so it'll most likely be a big hit like the 60 he ran before.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 15 September 2018, 13:33:05
I think I will write what I wrote in the form in here too.

I suggest adding these keys:
1. 2x 1.5u Diamond
2. 2x 1u Alt (and maybe 1u Ctrl too, but I rarely see 1u Ctrl being used compared to 1u Alt in staggered layout)
3. Split Spacebars (if this set run after Carbon R2, we can make them in Convex too)

And I also suggest to change the tab key to this design:
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Why? I think it help to maximize the harmony in this set because only the tab key has 2 lines. So changing it to 1 line and in the more used direction (to the right) will hamonize the set better.
About the "new legend cost", based on the last conversation I had with Christoph, I think GMK will cover it if the legend is something that quite general and can be used by other people too, here's the screenshot of it when I submit a set containing many new 1u keys in different rows for ortholinear:
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: titanium on Sat, 15 September 2018, 13:39:24
Agree on changing the tab key to 1 line, it'd make the set more uniform
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Remsky on Sat, 15 September 2018, 15:42:29
You say no tkl because of cost, then you support 65 and ISO which arent as popular? Okay. I get that tkl supp might not look better with hiragana, but still.

65 is super hot right now, I'm starting to see that & smaller boards more often than TKLs.

RAMA's doing that 65 which has hot-swappable switches so it'll most likely be a big hit like the 60 he ran before.
TKL is one of the most popular layouts behind 60. I get why he did it for 60's, but either the set should be meant as being for alphas only, or it needs more compat to reach to a broader market so more orders can come in. People are suckers for WoB, you could easily rake in a lot more orders just by offering tkl.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: joe405 on Sat, 15 September 2018, 19:44:06
This would have been perfect if black ABS didn't shine so badly
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 16 September 2018, 04:20:21
You say no tkl because of cost, then you support 65 and ISO which arent as popular? Okay. I get that tkl supp might not look better with hiragana, but still.

65 is super hot right now, I'm starting to see that & smaller boards more often than TKLs.

RAMA's doing that 65 which has hot-swappable switches so it'll most likely be a big hit like the 60 he ran before.
TKL is one of the most popular layouts behind 60. I get why he did it for 60's, but either the set should be meant as being for alphas only, or it needs more compat to reach to a broader market so more orders can come in. People are suckers for WoB, you could easily rake in a lot more orders just by offering tkl.

Seems like OP doesn't want to allow any latin legend appear in this set, which in TKL it will be inevitable with the F row. I get it that this is "so close" to cover a TKL tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: theseusanime on Sun, 16 September 2018, 05:24:03
no dual legends?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: apejonk on Sun, 16 September 2018, 07:22:41
different tab key design
This is a very good idea. This whole set looks really slick.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: rioc on Sun, 16 September 2018, 09:15:03
nice :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: fouras on Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:29:22
And I also suggest to change the tab key to this design:
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Why? I think it help to maximize the harmony in this set because only the tab key has 2 lines. So changing it to 1 line and in the more used direction (to the right) will hamonize the set better.

I love this. An escape that doesn't use curved lines would be great too. The circle one always looked out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 18 September 2018, 02:09:51
I am in

but

I would like to have this in PBT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Kawamashi on Tue, 18 September 2018, 11:33:24
White letters on black caps is impossible with PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 18 September 2018, 15:08:21
100% in on this.
I really hope this buy happens :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: hhkbp2 on Tue, 18 September 2018, 15:20:57
I found it's a perfect match on the legends if I put together GMK laser Kobe kit and GMK yuri Icon Modifiers kit, since that day my GMK laser arrived. I like this combination more than Kobe kit and GMK laser Blocknet kit, maybe it's just because I like the icon legends so much. This keyset is in a classic white on black theme of the legend combination I like. And it's compatible to many layouts. I must have it when it happens.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 19 September 2018, 16:18:09
I love this. An escape that doesn't use curved lines would be great too. The circle one always looked out of place.

Yeah I think it looks a bit odd, but to me mainly since it's centered while most of the other 1u keycaps are aligned top left.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: fer.real on Wed, 19 September 2018, 20:25:35
I'm in for this one.

Since this set is targeting 60%/65% boards, would it be feasible to add support for a split spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 20 September 2018, 00:36:17
Interesting. But not huge on the Ctrl Alt Esc Fn icons, personally.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 20 September 2018, 04:17:55
Take a breather at work and did some photoshop for the 1-line tab icon and also alternative Alt icon (which I prefer, tbh, because the shape give more balance looks compared to the stock Alt icon)

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For easy comparison:

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: constexpr on Thu, 20 September 2018, 21:20:34
I like the one-line Tab legend: the set looks super clean with it. This would be a good opportunity to introduce that legend to the GMK lineup. The flipped Alt icon is my preference as well.

Please add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn for 65% users.
Reasoning: people who use 65% boards with a split Backspace layout (which is pretty common) really like the PrtSc, Delete, PgUp, PgDn right column. A lot of GMK sets support this, so seeing as this set focuses specifically on 60%/65% support, this is a must imo.

If you want to save on keys after adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn, remove the R1 1u Backspace, no one uses that.

Can also be Insert, Fn etc.

Edit: Actually, now I see that this would require that R1 Insert/PrtSc and R2 Delete be added as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 21 September 2018, 04:34:30
I like the one-line Tab legend: the set looks super clean with it. This would be a good opportunity to introduce that legend to the GMK lineup. The flipped Alt icon is my preference as well.

Please add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn for 65% users.
Reasoning: people who use 65% boards with a split Backspace layout (which is pretty common) really like the PrtSc, Delete, PgUp, PgDn right column. A lot of GMK sets support this, so seeing as this set focuses specifically on 60%/65% support, this is a must imo.

If you want to save on keys after adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn, remove the R1 1u Backspace, no one uses that.

Can also be Insert, Fn etc.

Edit: Actually, now I see that this would require that R1 Insert/PrtSc and R2 Delete be added as well.

Wouldn’t flipped alt also be a new mold tho?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: constexpr on Fri, 21 September 2018, 08:54:07
Wouldn’t flipped alt also be a new mold tho?
Possibly. I don't think the flipped Alt legend is as important as the other stuff, though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 22 September 2018, 13:24:45
Wouldn’t flipped alt also be a new mold tho?
Possibly. I don't think the flipped Alt legend is as important as the other stuff, though.

True for both, I was just played with it while in PS :p
But who knows maybe GMK is willing to make it for free ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: fouras on Sun, 23 September 2018, 03:34:00
I just realized how awesome the ramen novelty from Laser would look with this. Could that be added? It solves the escape icon being ugly too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 23 September 2018, 08:57:49
I -might- join this if it's cheap :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 23 September 2018, 15:12:13
For me, it is a must have.
Although revered dyesub and ptb would be better for me.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sun, 23 September 2018, 15:25:30
Just a 1.25 r3 key and spacekeys are needed to provide support for a number of 40% keyboards. I'd feel obligated to buy if this set had 40% support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: KawabataLuis on Sun, 23 September 2018, 22:34:25
Really interested in this. If it gets a low price, considering kbdfans, I will very likely enter a GB for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: The_judge_168 on Mon, 24 September 2018, 00:44:42
I think I will write what I wrote in the form in here too.

I suggest adding these keys:
1. 2x 1.5u Diamond
2. 2x 1u Alt (and maybe 1u Ctrl too, but I rarely see 1u Ctrl being used compared to 1u Alt in staggered layout)
3. Split Spacebars (if this set run after Carbon R2, we can make them in Convex too)

And I also suggest to change the tab key to this design:
(Attachment Link)

Why? I think it help to maximize the harmony in this set because only the tab key has 2 lines. So changing it to 1 line and in the more used direction (to the right) will hamonize the set better.
About the "new legend cost", based on the last conversation I had with Christoph, I think GMK will cover it if the legend is something that quite general and can be used by other people too, here's the screenshot of it when I submit a set containing many new 1u keys in different rows for ortholinear:
More

Like this tab legend, would definitely go better with the rest of the mods


Pretty happy with everything as is, will definitely be joining.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 25 September 2018, 06:57:24
Take a breather at work and did some photoshop for the 1-line tab icon and also alternative Alt icon (which I prefer, tbh, because the shape give more balance looks compared to the stock Alt icon)

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For easy comparison:

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Those looks awesome! Thank you Jebbra :thumb:

About the "new legend cost", based on the last conversation I had with Christoph, I think GMK will cover it if the legend is something that quite general and can be used by other people too, here's the screenshot of it when I submit a set containing many new 1u keys in different rows for ortholinear:
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Asking GMK about this, hopefully its true ;D

Also many mentioned about the esc key doesn't flow well with the rest of the icons. What do you guys think of this esc icon?
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: constexpr on Tue, 25 September 2018, 18:48:27
I think the left-aligned × icon looks alright. Try the ramen legend from Laser as someone suggested, just for the lulz?

Also, I suggest getting rid of the dotted placeholder boxes for dakuten and handakuten ([ and ] on QWERTY) and using the simple legends employed in Serika: (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/rexvnchdjd8haau/Screenshot%202018-09-26%2001.53.12.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Wed, 26 September 2018, 18:50:31
I'm personally more of a fan of the old Esc symbol than just a generic-looking X. The only thing that looks a bit off about the original symbol is how large it looks compared to the rest of the symbols on that row. Maybe make it a bit smaller and top-left align it?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: digid3ar on Wed, 26 September 2018, 19:17:13
how about a kanji for escape (逃) ?, otherwise the ramen symbol sounds interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 27 September 2018, 06:59:14
Okay first, I wanna say sorry to Briano if I'm too disruptive about things I post here :p LMK if it really is :thumb:

But here's my try on the pubclicly-agreed-awkward Esc icon legend:

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Personally I still prefer this icon shape compared to the X because it is the official Esc icon. And also the X is numerical modifier for multiply.

The reasoning behind this modification: while usually 1u icon is always centered (diamond, menu, ctrl, alt, but all are bottom keys), it seems the Esc is awkard because it is directly placed right before alphanumeric key which has left aligntment/top-left alignment. The other modifier keys are helped because they are having larger than 1u size thus giving the icon 'spare room' to 'breath' before we see the next keys (alpha keys; top left aligned). The case become more severe because in Hiragana legend it even not 2-line left aligned like usual latin legend but 1 line top left legend like latin alpha, this make the Esc icon looks more awkward. So what I did is simply make the same 'breathing space' by aligned the icon to the left instead of make it centered. I also change the shape of the arrow, the stock Esc icon is using different head shape than the other arrow appeared in Cherry's icon. I tried to make the icon smaller too but IMO it is not needed.
 
TLDR: I just made it left aligned and change the arrow head shape into what the other Cherry's icon looks like. Also, bonus new icon of Fn just for fun.

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Again, for easy reference:

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 27 September 2018, 12:01:30
I think that looks a bit better offset like that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 27 September 2018, 12:10:46
I think it looks wrong.

If I see the OS key or the menu key, I have the feeling that it does not match the style
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 27 September 2018, 12:56:55
For some reason I kinda would like it to also be in the top left corner... And, the X looks dumb imo :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 28 September 2018, 04:21:17
From the IC form we receive many comments on the esc icon about it looking 'weird' out of place and doesn't fit the set. So we try out some other designs some of which you've already seen And user Jebbra also help contribute to this :thumb:

to keep track of responses easily, we decided to run a strawpoll (please only vote based on esc and not based on other modifier key): http://www.strawpoll.me/16541815/

- Original: https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97358.0;attach=203988;image
- Original (left alligned): https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97358.0;attach=204422;image
- "X": https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/463980612030562304/494122738206769192/gmk_wob_hiragana_yuri_tokyo60_ortho_top_wqhd_x_centre.png?width=1284&height=723
- "X" (left alligned): https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/463980612030562304/494112448333479937/gmk_wob_hiragana_yuri_tokyo60_ortho_top_wqhd_x_side.png?width=1284&height=723
- Square (also smaller): https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/492528674701049866/495150047944507403/gmk_wob_hiragana_kit_scaled.png?width=1284&height=718

edit: put link to images here so its easier to view
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: fouras on Fri, 28 September 2018, 05:48:30
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But if it's between the poll options, I prefer the centered X.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 28 September 2018, 08:04:51
Please add ramen option for voting  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Fri, 28 September 2018, 08:50:42
Square Esc actually looks really good imo. It flows better with the sharper angles of the other modifier icons and stands out better against the curved hiragana characters.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: titanium on Fri, 28 September 2018, 10:20:31
wow that ramen icon is good, i'm in for it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: yinzer on Fri, 28 September 2018, 11:44:47
Why not offer something like an Esc key (that square version is rad) and a novelty key? I don't know specifically if we want the ramen (not my jam, personally), but we could likely come up with something else cool if that doesn't hold up.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: nachie on Fri, 28 September 2018, 12:44:29
Looks really clean and nice. I'd definitely get a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: The_judge_168 on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:02:29
I like square but Ramen would be nice as well!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:37:22
Ramen > Square >>> Everything else.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:58:36
I am really hoiping for the left aligned, just makes it uniform since this quite a classy looking board. I can easily use this at work.

The ramen can be a novelty, but I hope we get a clean looking escape as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: soupymeatballs on Fri, 28 September 2018, 19:31:45
I think the reason all of them look weird is because the characters on all the other keys are up in the top left corner. If any of the existing "escape symbols" were pushed into the top left corner, it would look better. But that's just my 2¢.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (esc icon voting)
Post by: switchnollie on Sun, 30 September 2018, 14:55:16
Lol that ramen key is pretty cool, fr I'm just gonna put an artisan there anyway so I'm fine with whatever.

The X might just look like the multiplication symbol tho like on Ivan Dolch etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: briano1905 on Mon, 01 October 2018, 11:42:19
Quick update:
Weww. square won by quite a bit, which was my personal favorite too :p

I've talked to GMK and they said they can make the square ESC key!

1 line tab key as suggested by Jebbra also made it ;)

Added 1u alt and 1u ctrl to the base kit to support 65% board like the tada68

Remove r3 1.75 control key as downward pointing arrow can also act as control key

Updated kit on Original Post

Heres the official gmk render and colour codes
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: fouras on Mon, 01 October 2018, 12:22:40
The new tab icon looks too small compared to the other mods. The line weight is thinner and the arrowhead smaller. Escape has the same issue, and the arrowhead is shaped differently than all the others. I think you could just add a box to the "home" legend.

Otherwise, I love this set. The extra 1u bottom row caps were a great addition.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 01 October 2018, 13:03:24
I liked the longer tab icon

but the last version is definitely too short
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 02 October 2018, 03:59:20
Ah I'm sad R3 Ctrl is gone :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 02 October 2018, 04:46:42
Please give us back the R3 ctrl

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 02 October 2018, 05:54:59
1. Esc and tab keys do seem a little off?

2. Def gonna miss that R3 Control/ Stepped Control x_x
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: PaultheSloth on Tue, 02 October 2018, 07:14:45
All in 2 sets of this.

But do agree with the rest, legends are cleaner now, but the tab does seem a little disproportionate.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: joe405 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 09:40:50
Any chance of adding a 1.25u r3 key for 40% users? It's usually tab but honestly any icon is fine, can't be picky since icon keys are doubly rare for 40%£
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 10:27:31
Ah I'm sad R3 Ctrl is gone :(

Please give us back the R3 ctrl

Sorry for that. I didn't think so many would be very upset because of this change. I will strongly consider putting them back I promise

I liked the longer tab icon
but the last version is definitely too short

All in 2 sets of this.
But do agree with the rest, legends are cleaner now, but the tab does seem a little disproportionate.

This will be fixed next :D

Any chance of adding a 1.25u r3 key for 40% users? It's usually tab but honestly any icon is fine, can't be picky since icon keys are doubly rare for 40%£

We have something better for you guys :D
[attachimg=1]
Ortho, Minivan, JD40 and many more..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 10:29:45
.
posted twice by mistake :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: jebbra on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:16:50
I will forget the R3 Ctrl if you add 2x 1.5u Diamond :p

And I believe this is just GMK render being GMK render guys, I will surely help prepping the right proportion vector file if needed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:25:36
That 40 kit looks awesome!
Will definitely buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: yinzer on Tue, 02 October 2018, 13:38:12
Any chance of adding a 1.25u r3 key for 40% users? It's usually tab but honestly any icon is fine, can't be picky since icon keys are doubly rare for 40%£

We have something better for you guys :D
(Attachment Link)
Ortho, Minivan, JD40 and many more..

Hmmm ... any chance you'd want to join in / take over this effort for a CR ergodox mod set (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97298.0)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 02 October 2018, 14:43:24
Don’t forget the 6u Spacebar! They apparently include it for free if you ask.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Tue, 02 October 2018, 15:12:06
That settles it; if there's a 40% kit with minivan support, I am definitely buying this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: azeria on Tue, 02 October 2018, 15:22:51
yeah this is basically perfect obviously you'll never please everyone but it covers the basic common 3-4 60% layouts and a couple of >60s too. I'm going all in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Tue, 02 October 2018, 17:28:35
Any chance that this set can take advantage of the convex 2.75u and 2.25u molds that GMK Carbon will be creating?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 02 October 2018, 18:07:11
Ah I'm sad R3 Ctrl is gone :(

Please give us back the R3 ctrl

Sorry for that. I didn't think so many would be very upset because of this change. I will strongly consider putting them back I promise

I liked the longer tab icon
but the last version is definitely too short

All in 2 sets of this.
But do agree with the rest, legends are cleaner now, but the tab does seem a little disproportionate.

This will be fixed next :D

Any chance of adding a 1.25u r3 key for 40% users? It's usually tab but honestly any icon is fine, can't be picky since icon keys are doubly rare for 40%£

We have something better for you guys :D
[attachimg=1]
Ortho, Minivan, JD40 and many more..

Can you include the key sizes 2u, 2.5u etc..

Hard to tell what is included in the 40% for compatibility. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Tue, 02 October 2018, 18:47:59

We have something better for you guys :D
(Attachment Link)
Ortho, Minivan, JD40 and many more..

And....I'm in!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 02 October 2018, 20:23:41
Can you include the key sizes 2u, 2.5u etc..
Hard to tell what is included in the 40% for compatibility. Thanks!
Here you go: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a92451705a211f054930d0112ae4bbd0
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 03 October 2018, 00:09:35
Don’t forget the 6u Spacebar! They apparently include it for free if you ask.

Yeah let's get one of these guys :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: avid on Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:04:14
Love WoB and ive been wanting icon mods for a long time.

Also is it possible to use the traditional icon modi tab key or at least have it as an extra to get the traditional icon modi look?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 03 October 2018, 09:42:11
Can you include the key sizes 2u, 2.5u etc..
Hard to tell what is included in the 40% for compatibility. Thanks!
Here you go: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a92451705a211f054930d0112ae4bbd0
(Attachment Link)

The 40% looks great. I'm in!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4 on Wed, 03 October 2018, 23:08:29
Awww man. Wish this was dual legends.

I was also complaining the other day that full GMK base kits are a waste for most of the enthusiastic community.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Thu, 04 October 2018, 15:42:20
Is there actually a form for this IC?  I can't seem to find a link anywhere.  I'm really interested and I don't want to miss out if it actually gets to the GB stage.

Edit:  Found the form for anyone else interested:
https://goo.gl/forms/333z3WadDAvs3Bxg1 (https://goo.gl/forms/333z3WadDAvs3Bxg1)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: joe405 on Fri, 05 October 2018, 02:35:06
Hell yeah. This is what every GMK base kit should be like :D
I'm actually quite averse to black ABS shine but I'm definitely in for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: xandr on Wed, 10 October 2018, 04:45:30
Another vote to bring back the R3 ctrl
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: heliar_mk on Thu, 11 October 2018, 01:00:11
2u shift please


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Tue, 16 October 2018, 09:35:53
Curious as to where this currently stands?  Any updates?  I really hope this set makes it to GB stage.  I'm in for at least one set plus two 40's kits if it does make it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: constexpr on Wed, 17 October 2018, 01:17:51
2u shift please
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: krey on Fri, 19 October 2018, 07:09:22
omg i love this.

sign me up please.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: azeria on Thu, 25 October 2018, 10:03:50
Any news on when the IC will close?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 25 October 2018, 14:12:05
Any news on when the IC will close?

When GB starts /s   :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: KawabataLuis on Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:53:48
Any news on when the IC will close?

When GB starts /s   :thumb: :thumb:

Ha!

No, but serious now, any news?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 October 2018, 08:24:52
Any news on when the IC will close?

When GB starts /s   :thumb: :thumb:

Ha!

No, but serious now, any news?
All aboard the hype train!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: HFoletto on Mon, 29 October 2018, 19:02:31
ohh wow, it looks amazing! 
 
Make it happen! There are soooo few options (almost non-existent) for only hiragana/katakana legends cherry keysets. 
 
I'd 100% get this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: AKNYANG on Tue, 30 October 2018, 06:58:08
I'll buy the keycaps!!! for my 660. No matter what!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Wed, 31 October 2018, 10:35:03
It looks amazing and would buy! But I also think a Black on Black option would look amazing, à la HHKB
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: desibidu on Sat, 03 November 2018, 01:11:58
Would be great to see some sword, waves, etc (Japanese inspired) modifiers legends , arrows, etc.  Would that drive up the cost?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Sat, 03 November 2018, 01:24:58
Would be great to see some sword, waves, etc (Japanese inspired) modifiers legends , arrows, etc.  Would that drive up the cost?

lets get some akatsuki clouds :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: azeria on Sat, 03 November 2018, 12:23:00
Would be great to see some sword, waves, etc (Japanese inspired) modifiers legends , arrows, etc.  Would that drive up the cost?

yes... unnecessary custom legends on such a small set is not a good idea at all.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sat, 03 November 2018, 15:01:15
Will the 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars be concave or will they be able to use Carbon's new molds and be convex?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 04 November 2018, 01:00:05
Any chance to offer keys to fill out upcoming 60/65 kits that have left hand fkeys?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: arninja21 on Sun, 04 November 2018, 01:31:44
Any news? I hope this pushes through.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: zhang2118 on Mon, 05 November 2018, 14:57:07
Looks so nice! The sets are also spot-on!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Mon, 12 November 2018, 13:01:35
Any news on this? :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:03:40
I am soooooo into this design

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:08:26
I am soooooo into this design

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Only improvement would be 2x blank 1u keys for every row + 10x blank r4 1u keys + 2x blank r4c 1u keys so I could put this on a planck.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (minor kit update)
Post by: garbo on Tue, 20 November 2018, 01:28:06
Only improvement would be 2x blank 1u keys for every row + 10x blank r4 1u keys + 2x blank r4c 1u keys so I could put this on a planck.

The proposed 40% kit would surely be better than blanks, no?

We have something better for you guys :D
(Attachment Link)
Ortho, Minivan, JD40 and many more..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: joe405 on Sat, 24 November 2018, 18:29:55
Any update on when the GB might start?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: distracteddev on Wed, 28 November 2018, 16:09:40
Need this for my Kuro
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Fri, 30 November 2018, 11:56:28
Need this for my Kuro

Exactly my use case as well. Kuro Kuyo 😎
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 30 November 2018, 14:32:12
Would be great to see some sword, waves, etc (Japanese inspired) modifiers legends , arrows, etc.  Would that drive up the cost?

lets get some akatsuki clouds :cool: :cool: :cool:

Please make this a thing  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: azeria on Wed, 05 December 2018, 11:29:42
lol come on we're info starved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: LevelSteam on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:52:33
I'd be down for one of the base sets as it stands now. I see a lot of people suggesting dual legends, swords etc, but honestly I think the clean, minimalistic design is what makes this stand out.

When we got the Gaijin kit with Laser, it really worked because part of the whole cyberpunk theme is just this constant stream of information bombarding you, so how busy it makes the keys look fits really well. But since then it seems like every set tries to shoehorn that in regardless of whether or not it fits, and this is another case where I really don't feel like it meshes with the overall theme at all.

As various novelty mods go, there could be some clean designs that work, but is it really necessary? It seems like a big draw to this would be that it's a pretty small set that uses existing moulds, so it would be an affordable and accessible way for people to kit out their smaller boards while also giving them a unique look.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: DasGnome on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:38:03
I agree. Keep the set simple and affordable. No novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 05 December 2018, 21:43:31
The set that has everything OK. Elegant simplicity, full sixty coverage and a great pricing (hoping for this last one). :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: KawabataLuis on Thu, 06 December 2018, 05:45:26
I'd be down for one of the base sets as it stands now. I see a lot of people suggesting dual legends, swords etc, but honestly I think the clean, minimalistic design is what makes this stand out.

When we got the Gaijin kit with Laser, it really worked because part of the whole cyberpunk theme is just this constant stream of information bombarding you, so how busy it makes the keys look fits really well. But since then it seems like every set tries to shoehorn that in regardless of whether or not it fits, and this is another case where I really don't feel like it meshes with the overall theme at all.

As various novelty mods go, there could be some clean designs that work, but is it really necessary? It seems like a big draw to this would be that it's a pretty small set that uses existing moulds, so it would be an affordable and accessible way for people to kit out their smaller boards while also giving them a unique look.

I completely agree with this. I really like the simplicity of the cleaner legends, and would love a nice price for such a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Thu, 06 December 2018, 11:42:35
It would be really cool to get some info, I absolutely want this set but if it isn't happening I might go for DSA Katakana.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:10:26
It would be really cool to get some info, I absolutely want this set but if it isn't happening I might go for DSA Katakana.

Yeah I hope they'll be back soon, better not to rush an IC tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:21:29
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:27:54
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:30:42
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:38:18
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

No.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 December 2018, 20:38:29
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

No.


I found the icons to be signature for the set; otherwise, it would be just another WoB set. Legends are OK, their position is OK too; therfore, I disagree with you also.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 22:00:12
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

No.


I found the icons to be signature for the set; otherwise, it would be just another WoB set. Legends are OK, their position is OK too; therfore, I disagree with you also.

Ah yes you're totally correct. How could I possibly think that people want this because its Hiragana... I must not be right in my mind its gotta be the icon mods!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 December 2018, 22:11:04
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

No.


I found the icons to be signature for the set; otherwise, it would be just another WoB set. Legends are OK, their position is OK too; therfore, I disagree with you also.

Ah yes you're totally correct. How could I possibly think that people want this because its Hiragana... I must not be right in my mind its gotta be the icon mods!


Just giving feedback on your comment about icons you did not mention anything about the main legends. Hiragana puts the set appart from the common OG Cherry WoB as well and the two or three GMK replicas; of course, If you aren't a touchtypists it may not be for you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 22:16:07
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

No.


I found the icons to be signature for the set; otherwise, it would be just another WoB set. Legends are OK, their position is OK too; therfore, I disagree with you also.

Ah yes you're totally correct. How could I possibly think that people want this because its Hiragana... I must not be right in my mind its gotta be the icon mods!


Just giving feedback on your comment about icons you did not mention anything about the main legends. Hiragana puts the set appart from the common OG Cherry WoB as well and the two or three GMK replicas; of course, If you aren't a touchtypists it may not be for you.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474744859576500224/496898030679883797/chrome_2018-10-01_20-27-26.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 06 December 2018, 22:25:33
I like this set overall just a few things bugging me..


1. The one line tab icon is cool but I think it should be top left weighted instead of center left, or maybe it just looks weird to me because it is too small which is another thing I think might make it look better.

2. I am not a fan of the mac bottom row icons, but its not exactly a deal breaker since tons of other black and white sets exist that could be mixed with this.

Other than that it looks good, hopefully we get to see the ball rolling with this set.

I highly disagree with you.

Care to elaborate?

jebbra said this earlier on

Quote
And I also suggest to change the tab key to this design:

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97358.0;attach=203596;image)


Why? I think it help to maximize the harmony in this set because only the tab key has 2 lines. So changing it to 1 line and in the more used direction (to the right) will hamonize the set better.

I can see what hes saying as the icon backspace and enter sort of mirror it on the other side, also centered. I like the normal tab fine as well though, maybe more as its what I'm used to.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 December 2018, 22:31:09
The simpler one arrow tab is one of the reasons I am considering to get this set. I use WoB in one of my daily drivers and I'd like to mix these mods and Hiragana's with standard symbols, cuz I touch type but not on the unfrequent keys. Really hoping for the set to see the GB phase. BTW, KBDFans rocks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 10 December 2018, 12:33:04
Would love to get in on this if it happens. Lovely set, and I wouldn't suggest or request any changes. Just a matching BoW version. =]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 10 December 2018, 12:46:37
If they made changes to the tab icon, that would mean new moulds. I am fine with it and keeping the price low.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 10 December 2018, 18:34:14
Would love to get in on this if it happens. Lovely set, and I wouldn't suggest or request any changes. Just a matching BoW version. =]

did they say they’re doing a BoW version?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 10 December 2018, 18:47:12
did they say they’re doing a BoW version?

Nah just wishful thinking and a suggestive post. I'm on a kick of mixing keysets right now, and thought white HHKB arrows and fn key on this set would be dope. I'd buy another set just for that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 10 December 2018, 22:22:27
is there a possibility of an extra kit for tkl keys? with an moq
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:28:42


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Tue, 11 December 2018, 08:40:15


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Well, I personally want to get this set in order to mix with GMK Metaverse which also uses WS1, so from my perspective I would prefer a match.  I'm sure there are other sets with WoB modifiers or Alphas that use WS1 that people would want to match with. I'm not sure why a bright white would make the set look cheap -- there actually is an even brighter white available (WS2).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 December 2018, 11:08:52


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Well, I personally want to get this set in order to mix with GMK Metaverse which also uses WS1, so from my perspective I would prefer a match.  I'm sure there are other sets with WoB modifiers or Alphas that use WS1 that people would want to match with. I'm not sure why a bright white would make the set look cheap -- there actually is an even brighter white available (WS2).


All OG Cherry sets are CP, while pretty few WoB sets are WS1, Metaverse is the only one I can remember actually. I understand that you in particular want to mix the set with your own, but your case is not representative of the vast majority of OG owners. Besides there are always OG WoB sets available at very good prices so even you can get one to mix and match if this set were CP. How many Metaverse's owners are there? or at what price you can get one set if it were available?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Tue, 11 December 2018, 11:22:13


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Well, I personally want to get this set in order to mix with GMK Metaverse which also uses WS1, so from my perspective I would prefer a match.  I'm sure there are other sets with WoB modifiers or Alphas that use WS1 that people would want to match with. I'm not sure why a bright white would make the set look cheap -- there actually is an even brighter white available (WS2).


All OG Cherry sets are CP, while pretty few WoB sets are WS1, Metaverse is the only one I can remember actually. I understand that you in particular want to mix the set with your own, but your case is not representative of the vast majority of OG owners. Besides there are always OG WoB sets available at very good prices so even you can get one to mix and match if this set were CP. How many Metaverse's owners are there? or at what price you can get one set if it were available?

I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply that I thought my case was representative of anything other than my own personal preference -- this is an IC thread after all.  The current design uses WS1 and I think it looks great -- whether you want to mix this set's icon mods with another set like I do, or whether you like this set on its own -- it is crisp and clean.  Not to worry, the white will become less harsh after a few years in the sun  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 December 2018, 12:49:19


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Well, I personally want to get this set in order to mix with GMK Metaverse which also uses WS1, so from my perspective I would prefer a match.  I'm sure there are other sets with WoB modifiers or Alphas that use WS1 that people would want to match with. I'm not sure why a bright white would make the set look cheap -- there actually is an even brighter white available (WS2).


All OG Cherry sets are CP, while pretty few WoB sets are WS1, Metaverse is the only one I can remember actually. I understand that you in particular want to mix the set with your own, but your case is not representative of the vast majority of OG owners. Besides there are always OG WoB sets available at very good prices so even you can get one to mix and match if this set were CP. How many Metaverse's owners are there? or at what price you can get one set if it were available?

I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply that I thought my case was representative of anything other than my own personal preference -- this is an IC thread after all.  The current design uses WS1 and I think it looks great -- whether you want to mix this set's icon mods with another set like I do, or whether you like this set on its own -- it is crisp and clean.  Not to worry, the white will become less harsh after a few years in the sun  :D


No need to be sorry, this is a discussion forum after all. I just wonder what the point is for a partial sixty set like this to use WS1 legends if for full boards the set has to be matched with already available sets that are CP? It does not make sense.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: jacobavenkraft on Tue, 11 December 2018, 13:23:14


3. It's WoB so it should be CR black + WS1 white like other WoB sets. Older sets used CP tho so maybe briano1905 might wanna go og boiz CP white.




CP would make this the perfect sixty white on black set. WS1 is just too bright and would make the set to look like cheap OEM caps that would be a shame for such a well designed set.
Well, I personally want to get this set in order to mix with GMK Metaverse which also uses WS1, so from my perspective I would prefer a match.  I'm sure there are other sets with WoB modifiers or Alphas that use WS1 that people would want to match with. I'm not sure why a bright white would make the set look cheap -- there actually is an even brighter white available (WS2).


All OG Cherry sets are CP, while pretty few WoB sets are WS1, Metaverse is the only one I can remember actually. I understand that you in particular want to mix the set with your own, but your case is not representative of the vast majority of OG owners. Besides there are always OG WoB sets available at very good prices so even you can get one to mix and match if this set were CP. How many Metaverse's owners are there? or at what price you can get one set if it were available?

I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply that I thought my case was representative of anything other than my own personal preference -- this is an IC thread after all.  The current design uses WS1 and I think it looks great -- whether you want to mix this set's icon mods with another set like I do, or whether you like this set on its own -- it is crisp and clean.  Not to worry, the white will become less harsh after a few years in the sun  :D


No need to be sorry, this is a discussion forum after all. I just wonder what the point is for a partial sixty set like this to use WS1 legends if for full boards the set has to be matched with already available sets that are CP? It does not make sense.

I don't believe the designers of this kit care about full boards or mixing with other kits in order to cover full boards, but if you're asking why I personally want to mix this kit, it is pretty simple -- the designers posted a 40's kit that they wanted to provide as an add-on kit to this set.  Many GMK base kits almost provide coverage for a 5X12 Ortho layout, but often just not quite.  I would like to use the 40's kit to provide  Ortho mod coverage for one or more of my GMK kit alphas.  The main kit I'm interested in supplementing is GMK Metaverse which happens to be WS1, however I have ideas for others since WoB mods can go with lots of different alpha colors.

You make many valid points and it is very true that I may be in the minority with regards to my usage scenarios.  Additionally, as you point out, there are not going to be many Metaverse owners out there, and even fewer who wish to outfit an Ortho board (and yes, I can get coverage for an Ortho board with the Metaverse base kit alone, but the 40's kit in this IC would be nicer IMHO).  Honestly, CP would probably be fine with me as long as I don't have to mix modifiers from different kits, but the designers did choose WS1 and I'm not the only one in this IC who seems to like that choice for aesthetic reasons alone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: kiwi99 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 15:16:23
No need to be sorry, this is a discussion forum after all. I just wonder what the point is for a partial sixty set like this to use WS1 legends if for full boards the set has to be matched with already available sets that are CP? It does not make sense.

check out gmk originative (https://www.originativeco.com/products/originative), and then theres also Massdrops WoB (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set#overview) they are the two most recent WoB runs and both use WS1 (pretty sure at least).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 December 2018, 20:42:49
Let's see if the OP decides to support OG or the newest GMK sets. WS1 is on the table already, but the fact is that there are far more OG sets on hand.


My grain of salt only.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 24 December 2018, 19:47:04
Updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 27 December 2018, 23:50:49
Has OP disappeared?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Hyperdimension on Fri, 28 December 2018, 09:21:34
Please don't let this die OP :///
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Sat, 05 January 2019, 08:40:36
:/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Mon, 07 January 2019, 12:58:03
RIP
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 07 January 2019, 15:48:03
RIP
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: mattyisforlovers on Mon, 07 January 2019, 16:20:40
I would be interested in 100% layout, but either way I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 07 January 2019, 16:30:25
Didn’t OP make gmk phantom? Has he been active on that side of stuff? since they shipped recently
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: vegs on Tue, 08 January 2019, 06:31:53
F
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Tue, 08 January 2019, 10:21:53
Didn’t OP make gmk phantom? Has he been active on that side of stuff? since they shipped recently

I don't know, but it wouldn't be hard to just drop by and say: "No it isn't dead, I am just busy at the moment"... Not looking good :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: KawabataLuis on Wed, 09 January 2019, 09:22:27
Really hope Briano revive this IC when he is ready :). Was really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Wed, 09 January 2019, 11:37:18
any of the other several people related to this IC have any updates other than Briano?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: azeria on Thu, 10 January 2019, 08:42:12
legit gonna be pissed if this is dead :(((
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:18:26
legit gonna be pissed if this is dead :(((

same, had two builds planned with it :/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Rykno on Thu, 10 January 2019, 19:27:00
I was gonna flip a couple kits just to harvest those dope mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 11 January 2019, 18:09:25
OP's profile says he was last on GH Dec 10. I hope everything is alright with him.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: donutholer on Mon, 14 January 2019, 22:21:36
any update on the date? I remember it said late 2018, maybe mid 2019 now?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: garbo on Tue, 15 January 2019, 04:31:13
Probably a bit soon to ask, but if Briano never resurfaces online or just Koobaczechs out of the keyboard scene, would it make sense to have someone continue with this in his stead at some point?

It was planned to be run through KBDfans, after all (wonder how much contact there's been), and the kits seem to be in a good state.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Lyle88 on Tue, 15 January 2019, 17:54:49
+1 for alphas only. If this IC isn't even considering tkl coverage then surely it's worth offering just the alphas? If the colours are CR and WS1 I would be in for a set of alphas.

On another note, I hope everything is ok with op..? Maybe just on holiday?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: _GMK_ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:13:48
Interested in the alphas, since I already own two black sets
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: frostfiree on Sat, 02 February 2019, 22:09:02
I hope this becomes a thing, I would love this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:34:05
hi.

sorry for the complete silence the last 4 months

but im back and very motivated to get this going again

i have nothing to say right now just want to let everyone know i'm not dead
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: gnhuy91 on Mon, 04 February 2019, 07:14:14
hi.

sorry for the complete silence the last 4 months

but im back and very motivated to get this going again

i have nothing to say right now just want to let everyone know i'm not dead

cool, how far are we from GB?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 February 2019, 09:12:48
Please seriously consider spliting the mods and the alphas; also, you may check with the North kit guy if you may join forces to offer the three sets at once. With KBDfans as the main seller these three sets should have real potential demand. Adding a six units off center bar along with 2.25 and 2.75 units bars may add some orders as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: LXVRGS on Mon, 04 February 2019, 10:26:42
exciting news!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 04 February 2019, 10:30:15

woot


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: tomusan on Mon, 04 February 2019, 10:35:29
will this have a standard tab icon?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Mon, 04 February 2019, 12:54:03
Great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Mon, 04 February 2019, 15:42:41
Please seriously consider spliting the mods and the alphas; also, you may check with the North kit guy if you may join forces to offer the three sets at once. With KBDfans as the main seller these three sets should have real potential demand. Adding a six units off center bar along with 2.25 and 2.75 units bars may add some orders as well.

I am currently working out the kit again with gmk, will let you guys know the outcome soon. You mean WOB Nordeuk? According to the IC page they might be working with mykeyboard.eu. six unit space will be added to base kit. I think 2.25 and 2.75 bars should be in the 40s kit as is

will this have a standard tab icon?

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Hopefully I can get the single line tab as it is my preferred style
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: rondg on Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:25:55
I think I'm going to join this GB just for the modifiers. I like icons. Glad to see this is still a thing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: hhkbp2 on Mon, 04 February 2019, 21:35:22

I am currently working out the kit again with gmk, will let you guys know the outcome soon. You mean WOB Nordeuk? According to the IC page they might be working with mykeyboard.eu. six unit space will be added to base kit. I think 2.25 and 2.75 bars should be in the 40s kit as is


Glad to hear that it's still on its way.
Please add the center stem 6u spacebar. It's the last thing my HHKB needs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 February 2019, 03:39:31
Happy to have you back, love the set and I am looking forward to it! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 05 February 2019, 05:15:05
Any idea on pricing?  Per Happy Life Keycap Set GB ($110 at 150 MoQ), reducing the number of keys didn't have big impact on pricing.
Interested in this set, but I want to get some idea on pricing before I get my hopes up.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Emir on Tue, 05 February 2019, 05:38:56
Any idea on pricing?  Per Happy Life Keycap Set GB ($110 at 150 MoQ), reducing the number of keys didn't have big impact on pricing.
Interested in this set, but I want to get some idea on pricing before I get my hopes up.  ;D

Well, even a 1-key GMK-kit can cost 100USD+, it depends on the designers cut... ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 05:42:56
Any idea on pricing?  Per Happy Life Keycap Set GB ($110 at 150 MoQ), reducing the number of keys didn't have big impact on pricing.
Interested in this set, but I want to get some idea on pricing before I get my hopes up.  ;D

Currently waiting for a quote from GMK hopefully it is reasonable


also made this to kill time this afternoon https://briano1905.com/gmk-wob-hiragana/ (https://briano1905.com/gmk-wob-hiragana/)
because I sometimes forget to update on every forum :-X
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: constexpr on Tue, 05 February 2019, 06:14:53
Thoughts on these suggestions?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 06:25:52
Thoughts on these suggestions?
  • Remove one of the two pairs of homing keys (have a poll on which one people prefer, barred or scooped).
  • Add a 1.75u R3 ^ Control key (non-stepped).

Everyone fine with barred? (jokes :p) but most people I know have pretty strong feelings toward their preferred homing keys.. including myself

good catch! I forgot to mentioned but already requested for r3 control key and 6u spaces :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 February 2019, 10:06:41
Any idea on pricing?  Per Happy Life Keycap Set GB ($110 at 150 MoQ), reducing the number of keys didn't have big impact on pricing.
Interested in this set, but I want to get some idea on pricing before I get my hopes up.  ;D

Currently waiting for a quote from GMK hopefully it is reasonable


also made this to kill time this afternoon https://briano1905.com/gmk-wob-hiragana/ (https://briano1905.com/gmk-wob-hiragana/)
because I sometimes forget to update on every forum :-X


It is a very nice site that you made.
Any chance to split the mods off the main alpha set? This has been answered already, my bad, sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 February 2019, 10:09:08
Thoughts on these suggestions?
  • Remove one of the two pairs of homing keys (have a poll on which one people prefer, barred or scooped).
  • Add a 1.75u R3 ^ Control key (non-stepped).

Everyone fine with barred? (jokes :p ) but most people I know have pretty strong feelings toward their preferred homing keys.. including myself

good catch! I forgot to mentioned but already requested for r3 control key and 6u spaces :D


I'd take any, but heavily prefer scoop.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Hyperdimension on Tue, 05 February 2019, 20:21:50
If I had to choose, definitely barred. Maybe barred and scooped. I don't like scoops but it won't prevent me from buying this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 05 February 2019, 20:34:59
I prefer no homing. I doubt this is ever gonna happen these days, especially with a kit this small, but hey, figured I'd throw my name into the hat since we're discussing it either way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 05 February 2019, 21:18:16
I prefer dotted -- just kidding.  Prefer scooped all the way~  :p
Let's just do both barred and scooped.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 05 February 2019, 22:44:55
I prefer no homing. I doubt this is ever gonna happen these days, especially with a kit this small, but hey, figured I'd throw my name into the hat since we're discussing it either way.

I too would prefer no homing, but like scooped more than bars.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Tue, 05 February 2019, 22:47:47
+1 on neither scooped nor barred
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: kiwi99 on Wed, 06 February 2019, 14:33:36
nippled please ty
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 06 February 2019, 14:39:00
nippled please ty

the kb im building has blockers on f and j so i'm down for whatever :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Wed, 06 February 2019, 15:22:33
+1 for scooped, but I really think both types should be included.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 06 February 2019, 20:26:27
+1 for scooped, but I really think both types should be included.

Haha, we went around in circle.  The world is scooped (round)!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 06 February 2019, 20:29:04
Just a 1.25 r3 key and spacekeys are needed to provide support for a number of 40% keyboards. I'd feel obligated to buy if this set had 40% support.

This. Hiragana or not, I'd be in for a WoB 40s kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 February 2019, 21:36:07
nippled please ty

the kb im building has blockers on f and j so i'm down for whatever :thumb:

a man of culture
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: xef on Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:59:45
nipple gang
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: booleanjulien on Tue, 12 February 2019, 19:30:04
I too am mostly just interested in the icon mods, and think it would probably do well on its own. My wishlist includes TKL nav cluster support + a 2u shift... one can dream.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: arninja21 on Thu, 14 February 2019, 20:27:42
I hope this happens soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sat, 16 February 2019, 00:46:36
Just bought the main WoB kit from Massdrop. Would love some Hiragana Alphas and modifiers for it. If the price is reasonable from GMK I am 100% in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: mwahlig on Wed, 20 February 2019, 03:58:30
I would be in if there is a 40s kit that covers at least a planck. The 40s kit for Jamón provides nice coverage.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: megaforce93 on Wed, 20 February 2019, 15:05:39
ne updates avial
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 22 February 2019, 18:19:27
UPDATE:

We got quotes from GMK and The two new added legend will become part of the general GMK keys so we only have to pay a portion of the manufacturing cost

About splitting the base kit into alphas and modifiers, that would bring the manufacturing cost alone up by 20%. So I think we should stick with the original base kit

Currently talking with the vendor and hopefully can get the GB running soon-ish ;)

Current kits:

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: pcire on Fri, 22 February 2019, 18:28:44
That’s great news!
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: garbo on Sat, 23 February 2019, 12:43:14
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It was mentioned a few times in this thread before, but have you thought about making those 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars convex? I can't really imagine anyone not preferring them that way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Lormania on Sat, 23 February 2019, 19:38:35
I have been putting off buying GMK WoB because of this set so I hope it is going to run in the next couple of months.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 23 February 2019, 21:36:49
Good to hear the update.
Let's get going.  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: OracleKev on Sat, 23 February 2019, 21:56:20
We got quotes from GMK and The two new added legend will become part of the general GMK keys so we only have to pay a portion of the manufacturing cost

About splitting the base kit into alphas and modifiers, that would bring the manufacturing cost alone up by 20%. So I think we should stick with the original base kit

Currently talking with the vendor and hopefully can get the GB running soon-ish ;)
Just awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 23 February 2019, 23:00:41
UPDATE:

We got quotes from GMK and The two new added legend will become part of the general GMK keys so we only have to pay a portion of the manufacturing cost

About splitting the base kit into alphas and modifiers, that would bring the manufacturing cost alone up by 20%. So I think we should stick with the original base kit

Currently talking with the vendor and hopefully can get the GB running soon-ish ;)

Current kits:

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Remsky on Sat, 23 February 2019, 23:30:04
if the point is to reduce kit sizes to be minimal as possible, then why are you supporting ISO and 6u and offcenter 6u in base?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 24 February 2019, 04:16:47
if the point is to reduce kit sizes to be minimal as possible, then why are you supporting ISO and 6u and offcenter 6u in base?

4 ISO keys cost 2.5 eur.

If there is a 20% price increase in splitting the kits, it's not much, maybe it's worth considering. Standard alphas, with arial font, cost 50 EUR, absolutely not more that that. I don't know if japanese legends are more expensive than arial ones.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 24 February 2019, 08:42:20
Do not split. Make the 2.25 and 2.75 space bars in the small kit convex, they have the moulds.

Agree with Remsky in that offcenter 6u is a little silly but the current ISO support is pretty nice, I'd keep that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 24 February 2019, 09:21:27
Why not modifiers with text, japanese text?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: jihadu on Sun, 24 February 2019, 13:32:35
Why not modifiers with text, japanese text?

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Too expensive. New molds often are even on large production sets(like carbon or lazer). This is meant to be a simple cheaper set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: _GMK_ on Sun, 24 February 2019, 14:24:48
Why not modifiers with text, japanese text?

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Too expensive. New molds often are even on large production sets(like carbon or lazer). This is meant to be a simple cheaper set

Since the molds are available, can't you write ALT as ちりか?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 24 February 2019, 18:05:08
Why not modifiers with text, japanese text?

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Nice picture.  :thumb: :thumb:
I love this idea,despite the expense will be higher.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: hhkbp2 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 06:30:10
Why not modifiers with text, japanese text?

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In term of aesthetics, it looks better for japanese only alphas to match the icon only modifiers. Each key has a single legend. It looks simple this way. It will be too busy for the alphas to have both text, japanese legends, however the modifiers keys only have icons.

Since there are several english/japanese alphas keysets, e.g., laser, red samurai, serika, ebpt black japanese, and many more are coming, e.g. striker, etc, but just a few ones with only japanese, e.g. laser kobe, samurai pure Hiragana. I think it makes sense for OP to make this set alpha with japanese only so that it's more special.

As a side effect of only japanese characters playing the role of legends, it becomes some kind of novelties legends for users who don't know/speak japanese. Some colemak/dvorak fans would be happy to buy it too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 25 February 2019, 07:06:40
Can three of the existing japanese legends fit in a single 1.25 u key? For example on the ALT key.

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text translitteration
https://www.branah.com/japanese
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 25 February 2019, 07:30:48
Can three of the existing japanese legends fit in a single 1.25 u key? For example on the ALT key.

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text translitteration
https://www.branah.com/japanese

This layout is gibberish.  ちりか = hiragana keys corresponding to "ALT"  The rest of the mod keys are same.
One above isn't standard layout either.

We should stick with the current icon design.  I don't want layout with broken Japanese on it.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Mon, 25 February 2019, 13:49:04
Can't wait for this! :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4 on Thu, 28 February 2019, 16:29:48
This is a very cool set. At first I was like "why no dual legends? wheres the numbers?!?" but now I am into the look and could probably get over the lack of legends usability wise. The single legends and icon mods give it a flare compared to what we usually see with GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: hokagemadura on Sat, 02 March 2019, 04:45:52
release when?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: KawabataLuis on Thu, 14 March 2019, 08:57:08
How are things going?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Remsky on Thu, 14 March 2019, 12:28:43
if the point is to reduce kit sizes to be minimal as possible, then why are you supporting ISO and 6u and offcenter 6u in base?

4 ISO keys cost 2.5 eur.

If there is a 20% price increase in splitting the kits, it's not much, maybe it's worth considering. Standard alphas, with arial font, cost 50 EUR, absolutely not more that that. I don't know if japanese legends are more expensive than arial ones.

Where are you getting those numbers from? Are you getting these numbers from gmk themself or by lookin at previous sets?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: calveeen on Sat, 23 March 2019, 04:05:23
Reaaaally hope this gets made (soon)!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: mattyisforlovers on Sun, 24 March 2019, 13:00:51
Any possibility of a stepped caps lock?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: rondg on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:02:56
Any possibility of a stepped caps lock?

It is there. Maybe you are referring to the handbag caps lock?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Thu, 28 March 2019, 19:11:32
The lack of communication with this great set is kind of sad. So much interest was put into it. I hope it's soon and not pushed back because of all the recent gmk buys..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Wed, 03 April 2019, 19:18:16
It would be great to have an update
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 April 2019, 19:45:52
... NVM
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 03 April 2019, 23:35:09
pls..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: nvmbra on Tue, 09 April 2019, 13:56:42
Is the kit already final or would it be possible to add the command and alt icon keys Apple and the HHKB use like they have in the GMK Burgundy Icon Modifier Kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Fri, 12 April 2019, 12:52:52
Briano please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Sat, 13 April 2019, 19:26:17
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/3f2476235eaf4fdcb01f0b373cd9ca76.jpg)

May just be a coincidence
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Mon, 22 April 2019, 17:21:15
does anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Ouskambou on Tue, 23 April 2019, 15:16:10
does anyone know anything about this?

I joined GMK Minimal since I wasn't sure if this one would ever be made. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: i_am_pat on Fri, 26 April 2019, 11:22:51
In for 40%!
Stuff takes time to out together, so fingers crossed it happens!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: dimo on Fri, 26 April 2019, 11:35:17
In for 40%!
Stuff takes time to out together, so fingers crossed it happens!

That’s not the point. The lack of communication on any progress you think is being made is the problem.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 16 May 2019, 15:26:19
Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 22:56:52
Any news?

kbdfans gave up because it is troublesome for china to import.

Im looking for new vendors for this set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 May 2019, 02:02:36
Talk to MyKeyboard.eu. Love those guys!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 03:18:46
Talk to MyKeyboard.eu. Love those guys!

Thanks for the suggestion, actually mykeyboard.eu just join the team :p

now looking for NA, ASIA and OCEANIC vendors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 17 May 2019, 03:19:43
Talk to MyKeyboard.eu. Love those guys!

Thanks for the suggestion, actually mykeyboard.eu just join the team :p

now looking for NA, ASIA and OCEANIC vendors

I might have had something to do with that.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: Lyle88 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 03:31:03
Talk to MyKeyboard.eu. Love those guys!

Thanks for the suggestion, actually mykeyboard.eu just join the team

now looking for NA, ASIA and OCEANIC vendors

I might have had something to do with that.  :D
Might be worth contacting dailyclack.com for an Australian vendor?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: snelltrail on Fri, 17 May 2019, 04:45:03
+1 for Daily Clack! Phatty is awesome and has been doing an amazing job proxying for us folks way down this side of the world!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- vendors wanted
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 17 May 2019, 05:42:57
Talk to MyKeyboard.eu. Love those guys!

Thanks for the suggestion, actually mykeyboard.eu just join the team

now looking for NA, ASIA and OCEANIC vendors
I vote for Novelkeys or Cannonkeys as US vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana (40% kit?)
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 06:17:57
Might be worth contacting dailyclack.com for an Australian vendor?

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+1 for Daily Clack! Phatty is awesome and has been doing an amazing job proxying for us folks way down this side of the world!

As an Australian I have to agree :)

DailyClack.com will be covering ASIA and OCEANIC region

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- US proxy wanted
Post by: regionfree on Fri, 17 May 2019, 07:40:10
+1 for DailyClack!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- US proxy wanted
Post by: KawabataLuis on Fri, 17 May 2019, 08:05:11
Kinda sad that kbdfans didn't get into this. As a Brazilian, it would be quite easier for me, but either way, happy this is still alive, will keep an eye for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- US proxy wanted
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 17 May 2019, 08:46:11
novelkeys all day for US proxy
Title: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: dimo on Fri, 17 May 2019, 12:52:36
+1 on novelkeys

I’m glad this is actually happening :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: Ouskambou on Fri, 17 May 2019, 12:58:36
You are back!!!! Woooohooo. GB can't be soon enough, Q3 is FAAARRRR
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: Coneree on Fri, 17 May 2019, 12:58:47
would love to see this come to fruition! def cop
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: pcire on Fri, 17 May 2019, 13:00:07
NovelKeys for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: Sup on Fri, 17 May 2019, 13:26:40
Definitively gonna join this GB since there is a EU proxy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: rondg on Fri, 17 May 2019, 16:46:58
Please add R1 1u delete key  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: nvmbra on Fri, 17 May 2019, 18:16:03
Please add R1 1u delete key  ;D

+1

I'd also love to see row 4 command keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 21:13:50
Please add R1 1u delete key  ;D

+1

I'd also love to see row 4 command keys.

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We have this r1 backspace. not quite sure what you want

Row 4 command keys as in the one in macbooks? Does such gmk mold exists

I'm considering of adding 1.5u diamonds to base kit; quite a number of user have asked for this
and moving the two 6u space bars to the 40s kit because I don't want to bump the base kit price
and I have not seen enough mx board that needs 6u to justify it being in the base kit

please vote here: https://www.strawpoll.me/18009946

edit: I meant to say 2x R4 1.5 diamonds
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: datfroyodoe on Fri, 17 May 2019, 22:06:09
Have you considered using micons for the mods? Will look cleaner with the alphas and also an added incentive to get people who are only interested in the alphas to join as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: briano1905 on Fri, 17 May 2019, 22:32:09
Have you considered using micons for the mods? Will look cleaner with the alphas and also an added incentive to get people who are only interested in the alphas to join as well.

Yes. I agree with you this set was also inspired by MiTo's GMK Laser kobe(hiragana) and blocknet(micons). I've tried contacting MiTo multiple time through his website, reddit and instagram but unfortunately never heard anything from him :( I will write him again hopefully things change now :)

If. Big if I get permission from MiTo I'm considering of swapping the modifier in the base kit or offer it separately like in GMK Serika by Zambumon
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: datfroyodoe on Fri, 17 May 2019, 23:35:55
Awesome. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 18 May 2019, 00:58:18
Should the 2.25 & 2.75 keys in the 40s kit be R4C? At least, that's how they come with the Assembly kit for Calm Depths.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 18 May 2019, 01:28:22
Have you considered using micons for the mods? Will look cleaner with the alphas and also an added incentive to get people who are only interested in the alphas to join as well.

Yes. I agree with you this set was also inspired by MiTo's GMK Laser kobe(hiragana) and blocknet(micons). I've tried contacting MiTo multiple time through his website, reddit and instagram but unfortunately never heard anything from him :( I will write him again hopefully things change now :)

If. Big if I get permission from MiTo I'm considering of swapping the modifier in the base kit or offer it separately like in GMK Serika by Zambumon
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Micons would really set this off but if I'm being honest, MiTo prob doesn't want to share his creations with anyone x_x
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: pcire on Sat, 18 May 2019, 01:33:22
Good thing Zambu is not the creator, but MiTo. I’d like to think he’d be more open to the idea. Let’s wait and see what he says :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: rondg on Sat, 18 May 2019, 02:06:42
We have this r1 backspace. not quite sure what you want

I'm thinking this

(https://i.imgur.com/fN8XXko.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 18 May 2019, 02:21:01
Good thing Zambu is not the creator, but MiTo. I’d like to think he’d be more open to the idea. Let’s wait and see what he says :)

fix'd haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Emir on Sat, 18 May 2019, 02:53:36
Have you considered using micons for the mods? Will look cleaner with the alphas and also an added incentive to get people who are only interested in the alphas to join as well.

Yes. I agree with you this set was also inspired by MiTo's GMK Laser kobe(hiragana) and blocknet(micons). I've tried contacting MiTo multiple time through his website, reddit and instagram but unfortunately never heard anything from him :( I will write him again hopefully things change now :)

If. Big if I get permission from MiTo I'm considering of swapping the modifier in the base kit or offer it separately like in GMK Serika by Zambumon
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Offer it separately, sure, but please don't replace the normal icon mods in the base for them. This set would go from a must buy, to a "hell nah" for me if that was the case. Micons look tacky for me personally, and I'm sure many others agree.

I'm all for offering options, but don't ruin the base please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana -- Coming Q3 2019
Post by: nvmbra on Sat, 18 May 2019, 05:34:35
Please add R1 1u delete key  ;D

+1

I'd also love to see row 4 command keys.

(Attachment Link)
We have this r1 backspace. not quite sure what you want

Row 4 command keys as in the one in macbooks? Does such gmk mold exists

I'm considering of adding 1.5u diamonds to base kit; quite a number of user have asked for this
and moving the two 6u space bars to the 40s kit because I don't want to bump the base kit price
and I have not seen enough mx board that needs 6u to justify it being in the base kit

please vote here: https://www.strawpoll.me/18009946

edit: I meant to say 2x R4 1.5 diamonds

Yes, a mold was made for the GMK Burgundy Modifier Kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/68S2NxZ.png)

Personally I think for 1.5u this key looks better with the added command icon on the top right than just a diamond icon.

The delete icon was already posted by rongd.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 18 May 2019, 13:36:27
Definitely in. Hurry.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 18 May 2019, 17:02:35
You can probably guess that’s a strong “yes” regarding Micons from me.

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Title: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: dimo on Sat, 18 May 2019, 18:41:48
micon would be great. I’d like it seperate though

Would hit moq seperately just from people wanting a wob micon set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Sat, 18 May 2019, 19:41:48
I'm cool with either style of icons, but I think the "normal" icon mods would be a better choice over Micons. Full icon mod sets are a rarity with GMK so there's that. Plus MiTo might see it as a potential conflict with the upcoming GMK Pulse and its inevitable Micons kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Sup on Mon, 20 May 2019, 05:38:49
I don't think the Mito mods really fit the set. I think a separate kit is a better idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 20 May 2019, 06:51:38
If mito mods are on the table, I would also prefer them separate, as an additional kit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: Furikurichemy on Mon, 20 May 2019, 08:34:42
A seperate Micons kit would do really well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Hiragana [Q3 2019] -- kit change poll (page 6)
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 20 May 2019, 15:05:34
Hiragana BoW?

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