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Title: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:40:38
NEWEST UPDATE 4/25
Hi everyone,

I received the most recent round of prototyping today, and I'm thrilled to say the quality met my bar. While the prototype is not perfect, it gives me enough confidence to move forward!
The primary issue is that the color of this prototype is close to the desired navy blue color, but does not match it exactly. This will be fixed.

I'm not quite ready to release GB details just yet, but the planned Group Buy start is Monday May 6th, 5PM EDT, barring any setbacks. It will be run FCFS on cannonkeys.com. I'll release full details by Monday April 29th.

As a teaser, I've shown some of the previously unreleased weight design here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwsS4tUHehE/

And here's a few more photos:
(https://i.imgur.com/KJdU1JM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rFgLgJ1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tlaI48c.jpg)

Original Post

I'm Upas, the owner of the soon-to-be launching keyboard store Cannon Keys (more on that soon, keep your eyes open!) Some of you might know me from the Luddite group buy I ran earlier on reddit. I've been working on a custom keyboard for the past few months. I started it as a passion project for myself, but I've shown it to a few folks, and there seems to be interest, so I've decided to run an IC. I call it the Satisfaction 75. Everything from the PCB to case was designed by me.

(https://i.imgur.com/cyq4ofs.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DukXXNK.png)
Renders: Tesletron

IC FORM: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWTgOMbWs8jrn2GxJXsQXw7wFdeXDO3Gk6r4goVjbGYREM_w/viewform?usp=sf_link

Why the name? Well, I wanted to make a board I could use with GMK Calm Depths - I really wanted a Navy Blue keyboard case. As such, I thought I should lean nautical for the name of the keyboard. As my store's first group buy, I also wanted it to be at least a little related to "Cannons".

The Satisfaction was Pirate Captain Henry Morgan's (the same Captain Morgan from the rum) flagship. Pirates participated in naval warfare, so they used cannons. The curve in the back of the case is supposed to be reminiscent of a pirate ship. And throughout this whole development process, I've had a lot of satisfying moments. I hope to share that satisfying feeling with you!

(https://i.imgur.com/04PTYpB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9qjyr13.png)

In terms of the layout - I've noticed there aren't a ton of 75% customs for some reason compared to the number of 60, 65, and TKL layouts. Personally, I like having both the escape and ` key, but don't want a TKL, so I decided to make a 75%. The offset arrows are definitely inspired by the CA66 - I just think it looks great. The separation also makes the arrow keys easier to find. The OLED screen was inspired by the Hadron v3, and uses a lot of the great code that Ishtob wrote to make that a reality.

I'll start with a list of the planned features:

(https://i.imgur.com/azQgHbP.png)

Layouts:


Colors:

I plan on offering extra PCBs and extra plates during the GB.

Now I'll elaborate on some of the key features:

Current Status:
The board is currently not feature complete. I've been making iterative design changes to the case to deliver the best product possible. At the same time, I've also been working on the QMK side of things, trying to finish all the features. VIA support isn't built out yet, and VIA itself doesn't support rotary encoders, but I am working on it.
I have more ideas to potentially implement as well.

I have run a single one-off manufacturing of an early design, which proved incredibly useful. Hopefully the next round will nail it, but I'll continue to iterate until it's what I would consider perfect.

Expected Price:
I can definitely keep this under $400. The cheaper the better. The price honestly depends on how many people are interested, but has a $400 ceiling for sure.

I have a ton of people to thank, without their help none of this would have been possible. I'm sure I'm missing a ton of people here as well:


EDIT: (1/20/19)
Some updates:

(1/30/19)


(3/24/19) READ THIS UPDATE
Hello everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. This weekend, I received the two Satisfaction 75 prototypes. And unfortunately, they both fell far short of my quality bar. While the machining was decent for the most part, the finishing quality was quite poor, and frankly unacceptable.

This means two things are going to happen - 1st, this group buy is now going to be delayed again. I'm going to have to spend more of my own money to do a 3rd prototyping round with another factory. That being said, I am very happy with my decision to frontload all the spending and prototyping in order to execute a successful group buy, and I will continue to use this method until I'm confident that my selected manufacturer can deliver.

Second, I am now opening up an IC for my Brutal60 board, which will run before Satisfaction 75, so that I have time to work with a new factory on achieving the desired quality. I have already run a private group buy for the Brutal60, and already have a factory that can meet the quality bar, so as long as there is interest, the Group Buy for Brutal60 will start very soon. Keep your eyes open for a post on that soon!

But not all is lost! I still have two more functioning prototypes of the Satisfaction75, which I will be using to show off some of the cool features, and reveal some new information :). Here are some photos, where you can see some of the issues. I also wish I had a more fitting keycap set for this, but I had to use ePBT Greyscale, since it was all I had available.

(https://i.imgur.com/yzztyvK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i37Ar0d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ydnt7FZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zpBB3kA.jpg)

Example of a few issues (there were many more):
(https://i.imgur.com/oyoWymx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/e7cGXvI.png)

It's unfortunate that the group buy will be delayed, but please understand this is for the best. I want the Satisfaction 75 to be a satisfying experience when it is finally delivered, and I'm not willing to compromise on that.


P.S. If you haven't already, check out my store, https://cannonkeys.com ! We recently launched and hope we have something you might like!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:40:50
I'll use this post for prototype pictures.

There is an album of extra renders available here:
https://imgur.com/a/zx6fvwB

Thanks so much to Tesletron for these great renders!

I also created an early prototype. The design has changed a bunch since this point, but in case you want to see:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZIIBuAq.jpg)
(The knob now has a specific spot, a littler higher up, and is shaped to be knob specific. I wanted to make the knob optional at first, but it's just better as a builtin requirement).

(https://i.imgur.com/l62E9V5.jpg)
(There are blockers in the F row now instead of empty gaps)

(https://i.imgur.com/eo6CyJU.jpg)
(This plate was simply polished - there is no other finish on it)

(https://i.imgur.com/0SmaeHh.jpg)
Currently, the bottom is very simple. But I have something cool in mind. It'll go with the name of the board. It's Stainless Steel in this prototype, but could also be brass.

I made some videos with the first prototype:
Encoder behavior Demonstration 1:

OLED/Encoder Demonstration 2:

Typing sounds:


Here is the second prototype:
Under good light:
(https://i.imgur.com/MBK2dQZ.jpg)
(The gaps you see for the plate are just there for the 3d print)

Under not so good light:
(https://i.imgur.com/tSoUMXS.jpg)
Note the knob is off center. This is because I didn't measure properly and put the encoder footprint in the wrong spot on the PCB.
That has been fixed.

In terms of case design, we're pretty much finalized, other than minor details which will make the case easier to machine, and don't matter to the aesthetic.
Notice there's a gap for the knob now above the right side 3 extra keys. Also notice the added blockers on the F row.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:40:58
Questions and Answers:

Q: How hard would it be to program or get working? Do I need a good amount of knowledge in the area to do anything meaningful?
A: It will come with firmware programmed and working. You will not have to worry about progamming it, but it runs QMK so you can if you want to. If you want to change the keymap easily, you'll be able to use VIA to do so.

Q: Will the PCB support ISO so I can order my own custom plate?
A: The PCB currently doesn't support ISO. If it seems there is a lot of demand for ISO, I can add it.
A: UPDATE - The PCB now supports ISO, so you can order a custom plate.

Q: Any weights design in mind?
A: Yes, right now it's very simple, and it might stay that way, but depending on cost I have an idea I would like to try.

Q: Is the rotary encoder mandatory?
A: Yes. At first, I wanted it to be optional, but it looked bad, so now it's mandatory. Don't worry, it will be satisfying to use.

Q: Hotswap?
A: No

Q: What are the knobs gonna be?
A: Brass knobs in silver, black, and gold will be available. Plus maybe some special ones...

Q: What does the knob do?
A: The knob has multiple modes, and the mode is shown on the OLED screen

Fn+Knob press changes the knob mode

Here are the modes and their behaviors:
Abbreviation - Full name - Clockwise/Counterclockwise/Press
VOL - Volume - Volume Up/Down/Mute
MED - Media - Next Track/Previous Track/PlayPause
SCR - Scroll - Mouse Wheel Down/Mouse Wheel Up/Mouse Wheel Press
BRT - Brightness - Brightness Up/Brightness Down/Nothing
BKL - Backlight - Backlight Intensity Up/Down/Toggle breathing
CLK - Clock Set - Increase selected number (hour or minute)/Decrease selected number (hour or minute)/Toggle hour or minute (Clock gets saved when you leave this mode)

The default knob behavior can be set in VIA

Q: Can you add X feature to the knob?
A: I will add suggested features that I find useful, but only if they don't require any additional software on the computer. (This means, no notifications, no volume meter, etc. - if you're unsure, feel free to ask)

Q: Can I get the OLED screen in my favorite color?
A: The OLED screen will be offered in white and blue only.

Q: Will you add bluetooth?
A: There are no plans to add bluetooth.

Q: Will you offer aluminum plates?
A: The current plan is just to offer brass and FR4, plate files will be released for those who want others.

Q: Why did you add a cut under spacebar on the plate?
A: I wanted the force distribution to be even under the spacebar so regardless of where you hit it, it would sound the same.

Q: Do you have those cool displacement graphs for your plate like Windeh?
A: Yes, they are here: https://imgur.com/a/E2ctUR3 . This is super imperfect because the switches and PCB do affect a lot, and this is done using consistent force across the whole plate, which isn't really how you transfer force to keyboards. And I don't think they mean much. But if you want them, here they are.

Q: What about blockers?
A: The 1.5/1.5/7/1.5/1.5 layout is supposed to be for WKL. I'm not going to offer blockers, it will make the GB more expensive and more complicated.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Lbibass on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:43:32
This looks absolutely fantastic. Great job with the design, I've enjoyed watching it progress. :D

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mgsickler on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:43:56
This is really unique. I love it.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: dimo on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:46:23
How hard would it be to program or get working? Do I need a good amount of knowledge in the area to do anything meaningful?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:46:55
How hard would it be to program or get working? Do I need a good amount of knowledge in the area to do anything meaningful?

It will come with firmware programmed and working. You will not have to worry about it.

If you want to change the keymap, you can use VIA to do so.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: dimo on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:47:35
How hard would it be to program or get working? Do I need a good amount of knowledge in the area to do anything meaningful?

It will come with firmware programmed and working. You will not have to worry about it.

If you want to change the keymap, you can use VIA to do so.

That sounds great! Iíll definitely be in then, this is really cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: packman86 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 11:52:54
This looks really nice!

Add WKL blockers and I am very interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:01:02
This looks really nice!

Add WKL blockers and I am very interested!

I don't have blockers planned - you'd really only get one on the left side - but if there is a lot of demand, I might consider it.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:03:03
Very cool design! Only thing I would change is blockers to separate the F row. The spacing in between is weird.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:03:56
Very cool design! Only thing I would change is blockers to separate the F row. The spacing in between is weird.

That is fixed in the next revision of the prototype. The renders show the up to date design. The prototype was an old version.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: tiydal on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:05:56
Looks lovely! watching the thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:10:13
Very satisfying  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: gideon on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:13:20
Very interesting design. Would love to see a wkl blocker too and I am not sure about the rotary. Unless it can be implemented flawlessly, it may do more harm than good. If you can make it optional that would be best. Any weights design in mind ?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:18:16
Will the PCB support ISO so I can order my own custom plate?

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:22:56
Very interesting design. Would love to see a wkl blocker too and I am not sure about the rotary. Unless it can be implemented flawlessly, it may do more harm than good. If you can make it optional that would be best. Any weights design in mind ?

At this point, the rotary is going to be mandatory. It will be implemented in a very satisfying way.

When my 3d printed 2nd prototype arrives, I will try to take a video showing it off.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:26:36
Will the PCB support ISO so I can order my own custom plate?

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At the moment, the PCB doesn't support ISO.

I can add ISO support to the PCB if there is enough demand.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:33:32
Okay this is epic

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:36:20
Yes, more boards with my favorite layout!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: clik_clak on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:36:55
Very interesting design. Would love to see a wkl blocker too and I am not sure about the rotary. Unless it can be implemented flawlessly, it may do more harm than good. If you can make it optional that would be best. Any weights design in mind ?

At this point, the rotary is going to be mandatory. It will be implemented in a very satisfying way.

When my 3d printed 2nd prototype arrives, I will try to take a video showing it off.

Awesome! The renders look great!

Any chance to add hotswap to pcb as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: funderburker on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:43:16
Looks good and love seeing this type of 75% The renders look great and good luck with the GB. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: phorx on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:54:19
I really like it overall.  I think the knob would be easier to use if it was separated from the keys in itís own cutout though.  Without that your fingers would hit the key below it accidentally unless the knob is really tall.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:57:05
This is amazing. I mean it. Good job, everything from its unique features to the design to the layout and the blocker/staggers that make it look like a 1800 more than a 75%, it's just all around very good.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Anaconda on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:17:07
Iso support for the pcb would be appreciated. Also i think the round part should be straight myself but if the theme is a pirate ship then i guess it makes sense. Also the tolerances for the knob need to be good otherwise it will look ugly. Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:18:17
That's soooo unique. Consider me in alread, the rotary thing + screen on a 75% is epic.

Please just keep THESE LAYOUTS! (1.25x3 +6.25). To bad for iso people, but i would like to keep it ANSI, i don't like cheese plates.


Brass would be appreciated! Brass pvd Knob?  Brass plate option pls

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: redbanshee on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:19:46
Very cool,  (excuse me if you already said this above) will the entire assembly be on one PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vpr on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:24:04
I like what I'm seeing for the most part. I think the corners in the top left and top right have a weird look to them when viewing them head on because there is a weird gap caused by the side profile curve and the bottom stand.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vosechu on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:27:00
Please tell me you are planning on sourcing a compass artisan for the rotary knob!

Also, this is beautiful! Well done!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: LeoShi on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:33:10
very interested in this. Cool design
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: hndle on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:35:00
very interesting
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:36:42
Please tell me you are planning on sourcing a compass artisan for the rotary knob!

Also, this is beautiful! Well done!

please this
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: GSV-CargoCult on Sat, 19 January 2019, 13:50:01
Looks gorgeous!  Shame about the lack of ISO for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: travwal on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:00:36
This is unique! I'm really interested
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Anakey on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:16:41
if pcb could be iso and plate files released so that ISO plates can be cut then there would no no need for more cuts in the plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: gideon on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:06:54
Will the rotary dial be aluminium as well? It is going to be a pity if it come out as some cheap plastic. Can the edge profile of the dial be the same as the board profile. I reckon the dial my look weird to be so rounded compared to the board's edge profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Xynerorias on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:30:07
Oh, my god. That is seriously awesome, this looks really nice and is very unique I love it! Definitely count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: dhb82 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 15:49:42
I really like this, well done. Too bad about no ISO support for us in the EU, but what can you do. May you succeed with your endeavours.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: qq on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:35:59
This board has my satisfaction of both design and hardware specs  :eek:.
 
Would it be an option for a custom (brass/alu?) badge instead of an OLED screen? Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the ability to customise the screen but concern its replaceability.

I'm not a hardware guy, but to have a real-time clock, I assume you have to have the battery (like CR2032), right?

Have you considered the usb port cutout being tighter?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: NRbigfoot on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:38:57
This looks really cool, looking forward to see how it progresses
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:54:52
This board has my satisfaction of both design and hardware specs  :eek:.
 
Would it be an option for a custom (brass/alu?) badge instead of an OLED screen? Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the ability to customise the screen but concern its replaceability.

I'm not a hardware guy, but to have a real-time clock, I assume you have to have the battery (like CR2032), right?

Have you considered the usb port cutout being tighter?

Thank you :)

A badge could be an option, I guess. I wasn't planning on it, so I think OLED is the way to go.

In terms of replacability, the OLED screen is a $2 component with 4 leads. Its quite easy to desolder and put in a new one. I wouldn't be so worried about it.

There is a battery - it's a CR1025.

The USB port could be tighter if it extruded from the PCB. But I really wanted the port to be deep, as if a cannon could come out of it, following the pirate ship theme.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:56:31
Please tell me you are planning on sourcing a compass artisan for the rotary knob!

Also, this is beautiful! Well done!

Compass artisan knob you say... 🤔
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Owl- on Sat, 19 January 2019, 17:03:12
It looks fantastic. For the OLED screen, please make it raised higher on the PCB so it matches or looks close to the render. The prototype makes the screen look kind of like a deep well IMO.

Apart from that, I'd seriously love and pray if you would support this bottom layout!
(https://i.imgur.com/j5NtPY0.png)
I'm all about uniformity with the bottom row. This is also a great option for anyone looking out for WKL with blockers.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Sat, 19 January 2019, 17:19:35
Will the LCD always be lit? I think it should have a sleep mode or something like that...
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: qq on Sat, 19 January 2019, 17:22:43
This board has my satisfaction of both design and hardware specs  :eek:.
 
Would it be an option for a custom (brass/alu?) badge instead of an OLED screen? Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the ability to customise the screen but concern its replaceability.

I'm not a hardware guy, but to have a real-time clock, I assume you have to have the battery (like CR2032), right?

Have you considered the usb port cutout being tighter?

Thank you :)

A badge could be an option, I guess. I wasn't planning on it, so I think OLED is the way to go.

In terms of replacability, the OLED screen is a $2 component with 4 leads. Its quite easy to desolder and put in a new one. I wouldn't be so worried about it.

There is a battery - it's a CR1025.

The USB port could be tighter if it extruded from the PCB. But I really wanted the port to be deep, as if a cannon could come out of it, following the pirate ship theme.


 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 17:39:16
It looks fantastic. For the OLED screen, please make it raised higher on the PCB so it matches or looks close to the render. The prototype makes the screen look kind of like a deep well IMO.

Apart from that, I'd seriously love and pray if you would support this bottom layout!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j5NtPY0.png)

I'm all about uniformity with the bottom row. This is also a great option for anyone looking out for WKL with blockers.

The OLED screen will be higher on the PCB - about 2 mm from the top of the case. It is slightly inset, but that's by design. I'm continuing to refine the design to make the OLED work in a satisfying way.
In terms of more layouts, I think the only one I am planning on adding is ISO. If its easy to add the additional one, though, I can do it.

Will the LCD always be lit? I think it should have a sleep mode or something like that...

It has a sleep mode. It's always on when you are using the keyboard, but goes to sleep on idle.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:25:19
This is one of those boards that could be truly amazing.. The fine tuned things like the logo and the rotary knobs are going to make it or break it for me.. Will there be more iterations of prototyping? Will you be prototyping the knobs?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Starston3 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 18:49:39
In for one. Maybe transparent oled screen option?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: swangful on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:02:35
awesome design, i could do without the little cannon branding but thats just nitpicking
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:05:33
I think it would also be amazing if the knob is positioned at the side, right or back (where the USB is) so that we still have 4 keys at the right instead of 3. No idea though how hard it will be to implement.
But as it is, still awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: otanishock on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:06:31
Great design. Would love to see and try out the prototype at the next Boston meetup!

Edit: Is the knob be fully programmable via QMK as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 19:14:02
This board has my satisfaction of both design and hardware specs  :eek:.
 
Would it be an option for a custom (brass/alu?) badge instead of an OLED screen? Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the ability to customise the screen but concern its replaceability.

I'm not a hardware guy, but to have a real-time clock, I assume you have to have the battery (like CR2032), right?

Have you considered the usb port cutout being tighter?

Thank you :)

A badge could be an option, I guess. I wasn't planning on it, so I think OLED is the way to go.

In terms of replacability, the OLED screen is a $2 component with 4 leads. Its quite easy to desolder and put in a new one. I wouldn't be so worried about it.

There is a battery - it's a CR1025.

The USB port could be tighter if it extruded from the PCB. But I really wanted the port to be deep, as if a cannon could come out of it, following the pirate ship theme.

That could be an option. I would probably buy both, the standard one wtih OLED and the extra brass badge, especially if there would be custom engrave on it! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 20:06:03
Great design. Would love to see and try out the prototype at the next Boston meetup!

Edit: Is the knob be fully programmable via QMK as well?

It will be at the next Boston meet up :)

The knob will be fully programmable in QMK. The default behavior for the button will be configurable in VIA.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 20:07:25
This is one of those boards that could be truly amazing.. The fine tuned things like the logo and the rotary knobs are going to make it or break it for me.. Will there be more iterations of prototyping? Will you be prototyping the knobs?

The Cannon logo is going to stay - unfortunately that's something I'm not willing to take off, and I think it's subtle enough to not be a big deal. It's not an audacious branding like some of the customs I've seen. On top of that, I think it works well with the design of the board. I can elaborate if pressed.

I will continue to iterate until I think the design is perfect. I've purchased a ton of Knobs to see which ones work best, and will also likely prototype some custom knobs.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Walkerstop on Sat, 19 January 2019, 20:40:14
This looks amazing, I love it!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vikipedeer on Sat, 19 January 2019, 20:55:01
good god the 75% I have been looking for
naiseeee
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 19 January 2019, 21:01:59
looking forward to seeing more prototypes
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 19 January 2019, 21:07:01
So in! Great work upas!

Clock/screen is a killer app for me. Rotary knob is a killer app for me too.

The little canon logo is gorgeous. I have a semi.

Would it be possible to program the rotary knob to be linked to pageup/pagedn depending on the direction of rotation? That'd be so cool and precise way to move up/down when browsing long documents/data sets (which I do a lot of personally, sadly - with both hands on keyboard, it's a pain moving right hand back to mouse scroll wheel).
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 19 January 2019, 21:51:30
That's gorgeous. I probably cant afford it but damn that's the endgame I've been dreaming of.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 19 January 2019, 22:00:11
So in! Great work upas!

Clock/screen is a killer app for me. Rotary knob is a killer app for me too.

The little canon logo is gorgeous. I have a semi.

Would it be possible to program the rotary knob to be linked to pageup/pagedn depending on the direction of rotation? That'd be so cool and precise way to move up/down when browsing long documents/data sets (which I do a lot of personally, sadly - with both hands on keyboard, it's a pain moving right hand back to mouse scroll wheel).

I've spent some of yesterday and today writing code for the knob.

Fn+Knob press changes the knob mode

Here are the modes and their behaviors:
Abbreviation - Full name - Clockwise/Counterclockwise/Press
VOL - Volume - Volume Up/Down/Mute
MED - Media - Next Track/Previous Track/PlayPause
SCR - Scroll - Mouse Wheel Down/Mouse Wheel Up/Mouse Wheel Press
BRT - Brightness - Brightness Up/Brightness Down/Nothing
BKL - Backlight - Backlight Intensity Up/Down/Toggle breathing
CLK - Clock Set - Increase selected number (hour or minute)/Decrease selected number (hour or minute)/Toggle hour or minute (Clock gets saved when you leave this mode)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 19 January 2019, 22:35:10
This looks really nice!

Add WKL blockers and I am very interested!

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 19 January 2019, 22:55:14
Looks great! Only thing I don't care for is the cannon. Hope to possibly see a blue/grey color, if so I'll be in for one even if the cannon stays. 

Also, +1 for the screen not always being lit up. Maybe a sleep mode  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Dovan1405 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 23:24:11
I would like for at least a wkl blocker but it seems rather difficult to achieve
Ill go with the 1.5,1.5,7,1.5,1.5

Overall this board is drop dead gorgeous. That weight look is stunning and clean as well please keep it that way :D


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 23:57:04
This looks good! Especially with ~400usd price. What is the front height of the board?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: gnhuy91 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 23:58:53
awesome design! will there be a WKL option?
also i kinda want to opt out for OLED and slab a brass tag on its place
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Dovan1405 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 01:25:22
I didnt mention these colours in my form but something off white creamish will be nice. Or olive green and rose gold


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 January 2019, 01:28:39
video demonstration and full tutorial pls

i have no idea what the implementation of this is, and the last time something like this was tried it tanked horribly
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:23:31
Wow, this is indeed a satisfaction Keyboard :eek:

Got all of the them VERY Satisfying features  ^-^

75% layout ( best workstation layout )
V.I.A
Clean design  :thumb:
OLED Screen ( YEEES ) Layer indication at is best!!
The Knob ( really nice for timeline scroll in editing software ) + The STD features

I would not mind paying a premium if the OLED and Knob wheel is executed well.

+1 ISO enabled PCB ( I don't think it's a "cheeeese plate" just by adding ISO enter and split left shift to the PCB )
+1 ISO Didicated plate ( To avoid the universal layouts and ANSI users frustrattion )  :))

Looking at the the knob rotator on the render, is it not slightly a little too big to interfere with print screen on your fingers when "knobing the wheel" ?

On the proto, the OLED is countersunk, any plans for a tinted glass insert?

Really nice work and great features, definitely in, if you add ISO  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ptiede on Sun, 20 January 2019, 07:27:20
Must buy for me. I love this
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:21:32
video demonstration and full tutorial pls

i have no idea what the implementation of this is, and the last time something like this was tried it tanked horribly

Still definitely a work in progress. Sorry for the weird vertical video, I'm new to YouTube and don't know how to fix it:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:28:38
video demonstration and full tutorial pls

i have no idea what the implementation of this is, and the last time something like this was tried it tanked horribly

Still definitely a work in progress. Sorry for the weird vertical video, I'm new to YouTube and don't know how to fix it:

Nice 👌 just quick, maybe when in the brightness settings, a press could choose screen color mode? Win have a night light mode.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 20 January 2019, 09:32:28
Also here are some typing sounds. I made this video on my webcam:


Shoutout Chris Swires for index finger spacebar.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: dyrdevil on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:07:41
This is pretty darn cool. Congrats!

A couple questions, sorry for my lack of knowledge about something like this:

1) are the knob functions editable/programmable at all by the end user?
2) is it possible to have a knob with a larger/slower "bump" when rotating?  During the media selection setting, it seems it'd be easy to have more "bumps" than you want, possible decreasing that satisfaction

I'm sure you know this, but it seems to me that this board will live and die on how irresistible the knob and OLED screen are.  I'd say, take whatever time you need to get those things as right as possible, otherwise it might seem a bit gimmicky. 

I apologize if I seem condescending at all - I think this is one of the coolest things I've seen!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:34:31
This is pretty darn cool. Congrats!

A couple questions, sorry for my lack of knowledge about something like this:

1) are the knob functions editable/programmable at all by the end user?
2) is it possible to have a knob with a larger/slower "bump" when rotating?  During the media selection setting, it seems it'd be easy to have more "bumps" than you want, possible decreasing that satisfaction

I'm sure you know this, but it seems to me that this board will live and die on how irresistible the knob and OLED screen are.  I'd say, take whatever time you need to get those things as right as possible, otherwise it might seem a bit gimmicky. 

I apologize if I seem condescending at all - I think this is one of the coolest things I've seen!

1) A custom mode sounds pretty cool - I wonder if I can get that supported in VIA
2) This is something that was mentioned to me in discord. QMK doesn't support that right now, but I think I can absolutely implement something like that. At the very least, we'll be able to change the number of "bumps" per setting. What would really be cool would be an acceleration mode - the more you turn the faster you go. But that's pretty difficult to implement :)

I totally agree with you about the OLED and Knob needing to be extremely satisfying. I'm open to all suggestions to increase the satisfaction.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: phorx on Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:57:24
Any possibility of a rotary encoder that is silent?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:07:19


This is pretty darn cool. Congrats!

A couple questions, sorry for my lack of knowledge about something like this:

1) are the knob functions editable/programmable at all by the end user?
2) is it possible to have a knob with a larger/slower "bump" when rotating?  During the media selection setting, it seems it'd be easy to have more "bumps" than you want, possible decreasing that satisfaction

I'm sure you know this, but it seems to me that this board will live and die on how irresistible the knob and OLED screen are.  I'd say, take whatever time you need to get those things as right as possible, otherwise it might seem a bit gimmicky. 

I apologize if I seem condescending at all - I think this is one of the coolest things I've seen!

1) A custom mode sounds pretty cool - I wonder if I can get that supported in VIA
2) This is something that was mentioned to me in discord. QMK doesn't support that right now, but I think I can absolutely implement something like that. At the very least, we'll be able to change the number of "bumps" per setting. What would really be cool would be an acceleration mode - the more you turn the faster you go. But that's pretty difficult to implement :)

I totally agree with you about the OLED and Knob needing to be extremely satisfying. I'm open to all suggestions to increase the satisfaction.

I assumed the rotary functions could be programmed to anything that is supported by qmk? Your comment, upas, seems to suggest the knob will only have the features you have already mentioned. Or were you only referring to custom programmability through VIA by the end user?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:38:30
In for one, I'd only use the "weel" for volume control, but I like it :)
Title: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:41:52
Suggestion for brightness click mode; activate or deactivate night mode (windows flux).

And for the scroll wheel function, click to swap between vertical and horizontal scrolling.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:50:53
Any possibility of a rotary encoder that is silent?

If you find a part, then you can totally put a silent rotary encoder in. The one provided with the kit will not be silent.
This is for my sanity :) More options = more difficult fulfillment.



This is pretty darn cool. Congrats!

A couple questions, sorry for my lack of knowledge about something like this:

1) are the knob functions editable/programmable at all by the end user?
2) is it possible to have a knob with a larger/slower "bump" when rotating?  During the media selection setting, it seems it'd be easy to have more "bumps" than you want, possible decreasing that satisfaction

I'm sure you know this, but it seems to me that this board will live and die on how irresistible the knob and OLED screen are.  I'd say, take whatever time you need to get those things as right as possible, otherwise it might seem a bit gimmicky. 

I apologize if I seem condescending at all - I think this is one of the coolest things I've seen!

1) A custom mode sounds pretty cool - I wonder if I can get that supported in VIA
2) This is something that was mentioned to me in discord. QMK doesn't support that right now, but I think I can absolutely implement something like that. At the very least, we'll be able to change the number of "bumps" per setting. What would really be cool would be an acceleration mode - the more you turn the faster you go. But that's pretty difficult to implement :)

I totally agree with you about the OLED and Knob needing to be extremely satisfying. I'm open to all suggestions to increase the satisfaction.

I assumed the rotary functions could be programmed to anything that is supported by qmk? Your comment, upas, seems to suggest the knob will only have the features you have already mentioned. Or were you only referring to custom programmability through VIA by the end user?

The firmware for the keyboard is QMK. You can always change how the encoder works if you write the code in QMK.
A lot of people don't want to learn how to do that, and that's what VIA is for.

If you know C and can hack around QMK, anything is possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vpr on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:11:31
video demonstration and full tutorial pls

i have no idea what the implementation of this is, and the last time something like this was tried it tanked horribly

Still definitely a work in progress. Sorry for the weird vertical video, I'm new to YouTube and don't know how to fix it:

Possible to make the OLED screen show the volume percentage as it's being changed? Maybe have the OLED screen switch to a meter w/ percentage then switch back after a few seconds of inactivity? Would be nice if I have music or something playing, monitors have turned off due to inactivity and I just want to adjust the volume. Could just turn the knob and look at the OLED screen instead of waking the monitors.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:38:28
video demonstration and full tutorial pls

i have no idea what the implementation of this is, and the last time something like this was tried it tanked horribly

Still definitely a work in progress. Sorry for the weird vertical video, I'm new to YouTube and don't know how to fix it:


Can the OLED light be white as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 20 January 2019, 17:00:11
Possible to make the OLED screen show the volume percentage as it's being changed? Maybe have the OLED screen switch to a meter w/ percentage then switch back after a few seconds of inactivity? Would be nice if I have music or something playing, monitors have turned off due to inactivity and I just want to adjust the volume. Could just turn the knob and look at the OLED screen instead of waking the monitors.

In order to do this, we'd have to have custom software running on the computer. There are only three pieces of information sent to keyboards without extra software - those are Caps Lock state, Num lock state, and Scroll Lock state.
As such, this isn't something I plan on adding, but nothing is preventing someone else from writing the integration.


Can the OLED light be white as well?

Yep! There will be 2 options for OLED - white and blue.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Pennywise359 on Sun, 20 January 2019, 20:35:07
I'd love to have the knob on the left, so I won't have to take my hand off the mouse.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: lakeboredom on Mon, 21 January 2019, 06:14:18
Wow this is a instant buy for me, so cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: fcnchuck on Mon, 21 January 2019, 10:32:23
Great work. Love seeing more 75% coming into the light
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mrkantz on Mon, 21 January 2019, 10:44:18
This is definitely a buy for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: booleanjulien on Mon, 21 January 2019, 11:34:57
I'd love to have the knob on the left, so I won't have to take my hand off the mouse.

Seems like it's too late for this, but this sounds amazing to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Grumms on Mon, 21 January 2019, 12:40:42
Fantastic work. Very unique! Definitely will be in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: phorx on Mon, 21 January 2019, 13:28:25
I'd like a mode where the wheel operates volume and pushing it down toggles mute for the microphone, would be great for games with voice comms, streaming, or just skype calls for work.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: farmisen on Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:18:54
I'd like a mode where the wheel operates volume and pushing it down toggles mute for the microphone, would be great for games with voice comms, streaming, or just skype calls for work.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:20:35
I'd like a mode where the wheel operates volume and pushing it down toggles mute for the microphone, would be great for games with voice comms, streaming, or just skype calls for work.

+1

Is there an HID scancode that toggles microphone mute? Might have to be something you do on the OS side.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Zytyx on Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:39:12
As long as the gb will be easy to get into I'm down for 2! Love all the features present.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: NinjaSquirrel21 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 19:03:21
I am very interested in this. The early pics look great. Watching the thread.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: tunadesu on Mon, 21 January 2019, 19:48:23
Great design. Would love to see and try out the prototype at the next Boston meetup!

Edit: Is the knob be fully programmable via QMK as well?

It will be at the next Boston meet up :)

The knob will be fully programmable in QMK. The default behavior for the button will be configurable in VIA.

Boston meetup!? Nice. When is that do you know? I can't miss this
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: alphabirth on Tue, 22 January 2019, 15:04:25
Unh... This is so beautiful!  I wish I had money right now, but alas, I'll have to sit this one out.  Good luck getting to GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Manabuns on Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:31:58
Looks amazing! Looking forward to seeing how this gb turns out
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sleepy_Badger on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:16:47
hey im really liking this concept. Do you have a ballpark idea on the cost? I plan to enter quite a few things this spring so just trying to see what my budget is and what not, but dope design cant wait to own it hopefully  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:59:57
I'd like a mode where the wheel operates volume and pushing it down toggles mute for the microphone, would be great for games with voice comms, streaming, or just skype calls for work.

+1

Is there an HID scancode that toggles microphone mute? Might have to be something you do on the OS side.

Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, there isnt' a default code for microphone mute or anything like that. You'd have to setup a hotkey.
I don't think those will be configurable - my plan right now is that there will be two custom encoder modes you can configure in VIA, and you can also set your default encoder mode in VIA.

Using the custom modes, you could make the press send whatever you want.

I still want a good press behavior for both the scrolling and brightness modes - nothing feasible has come up yet.

Great design. Would love to see and try out the prototype at the next Boston meetup!

Edit: Is the knob be fully programmable via QMK as well?

It will be at the next Boston meet up :)

The knob will be fully programmable in QMK. The default behavior for the button will be configurable in VIA.

Boston meetup!? Nice. When is that do you know? I can't miss this

I'm supposed to be planning that as well! I posted an IC, please fill it out before February!
https://goo.gl/forms/fcHW2M0YqNaY3VDs2

hey im really liking this concept. Do you have a ballpark idea on the cost? I plan to enter quite a few things this spring so just trying to see what my budget is and what not, but dope design cant wait to own it hopefully  ;D

The cost will be $400 max. Not sure about specifics any further than that.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Tue, 22 January 2019, 22:01:31
Here's a quick demo of the backlight being changed by the rotary encoder, on my development board:

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: AgonizedFish on Wed, 23 January 2019, 09:12:44
Any plans for a polycarb version? Definitely in either way, this board looks amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sleepy_Badger on Wed, 23 January 2019, 22:11:43
hey im really liking this concept. Do you have a ballpark idea on the cost? I plan to enter quite a few things this spring so just trying to see what my budget is and what not, but dope design cant wait to own it hopefully  ;D

The cost will be $400 max. Not sure about specifics any further than that.



Thanks!! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: audax989 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 22:36:33
watching this. seems like a good work board for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: hndle on Thu, 24 January 2019, 09:57:44
this is perfect for me
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: japancakes on Thu, 24 January 2019, 17:57:24
This looks insane. Brass finish case hoooooly.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: bball2 on Thu, 24 January 2019, 23:43:39
Looks awesome, hope the price can be competitive!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sat, 26 January 2019, 19:54:29
Interested depending on final product and cost.

For brightness rotary encoder function: Is this the screeen brightness of the PC, or the OLED brightness level?  It would be nice to have the ability to change the brightness of the OLED; definitely wouldn't want an overly bright screen on my keyboard at all times when in use.  Or just the option to turn OLED off, or have it off after a few seconds of no rotary encoder use, turn OLED back on when using rotary encoder etc.

Also, would it be possible to bevel/chamfer the edges that go down into the OLED screen to reduce the reflections off of the sides of the OLED hole?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 27 January 2019, 09:55:17
Interested depending on final product and cost.

For brightness rotary encoder function: Is this the screeen brightness of the PC, or the OLED brightness level?  It would be nice to have the ability to change the brightness of the OLED; definitely wouldn't want an overly bright screen on my keyboard at all times when in use.  Or just the option to turn OLED off, or have it off after a few seconds of no rotary encoder use, turn OLED back on when using rotary encoder etc.

Also, would it be possible to bevel/chamfer the edges that go down into the OLED screen to reduce the reflections off of the sides of the OLED hole?

The OLED does have a way to control "contrast" which is roughly correlated to brightness. I have not tried implementing code to change this, but quick searching shows that it might not make much of a difference. I'm using an existing OLED breakout for this keyboard, so I don't have full control of the OLED schematic, but it was a way to deliver this without spending months more of development, and I thought it was a good tradeoff to make.

In terms of the bevel/chamfer, the most recent version of the design does include one because I noticed this exact issue :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sun, 27 January 2019, 22:06:59
 :thumb: on the chamfer/bevel; looking forward to seeing updated pics!

More ideas on OLED (just more detailed of what I was mentioning above, understood brightness/contrast is likely a no-go):

Auto-off function after set time of no rotary-encoder input detected (has a real-time clock after all :-).  Auto-on when rotary-encoder input detected resetting auto-off function timer whenever rotary input is detected.

Default to just showing clock on entire OLED screen (nothing else) when no rotary input detected for set amount of time.  When rotary input is detected, show pertinent info for current function.

Ability to turn off OLED when unwanted/unneeded via the rotary-encoder menu system.  When OLED is off, just push rotary button to turn it back on and goes into whatever function was set to defualt.

Also ability to enable/disable above auto functions.

Considering Knob and case.  I didn't find a mention... Will the case be shaped around the contour of a round knob for the hole?  Or will it remain a square, well rectangle for entire vertical column?  It would look much more polished, and I'd be willing to pay a little more, if it's a little more, to have it looking like it belongs there instead of a round peg into a square hole  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 28 January 2019, 11:11:21
1) I kinda would prefer the rotary knob to be blockered out separately and cnced in its won circular spot rather than have a key right below it and in a square cnced spot. Is this possible?
2) I mentioned this before to you on reddit but I think it does make sense if possible to have the knob be stepped or smooth when rotated (ex Logitech mice scroll wheel allow you to switch between the two).
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RamenTechMech on Mon, 28 January 2019, 11:18:09
2) I mentioned this before to you on reddit but I think it does make sense if possible to have the knob be stepped or smooth when rotated (ex Logitech mice scroll wheel allow you to switch between the two).

I don't think there is a rotary knob that can perform this function, you only have stepped and smooth. I have that mouse you are talking about which is the G502 but it's an actual object that makes contact with the scroll wheel that makes it stepped or into a freewheel.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Mon, 28 January 2019, 12:25:26
:thumb: on the chamfer/bevel; looking forward to seeing updated pics!

More ideas on OLED (just more detailed of what I was mentioning above, understood brightness/contrast is likely a no-go):

Auto-off function after set time of no rotary-encoder input detected (has a real-time clock after all :-).  Auto-on when rotary-encoder input detected resetting auto-off function timer whenever rotary input is detected.

Default to just showing clock on entire OLED screen (nothing else) when no rotary input detected for set amount of time.  When rotary input is detected, show pertinent info for current function.

Ability to turn off OLED when unwanted/unneeded via the rotary-encoder menu system.  When OLED is off, just push rotary button to turn it back on and goes into whatever function was set to defualt.

Also ability to enable/disable above auto functions.

Considering Knob and case.  I didn't find a mention... Will the case be shaped around the contour of a round knob for the hole?  Or will it remain a square, well rectangle for entire vertical column?  It would look much more polished, and I'd be willing to pay a little more, if it's a little more, to have it looking like it belongs there instead of a round peg into a square hole  ;D

I have some of those oled features planned. It already goes to sleep after 60 seconds of keyboard inactivity. If the keyboard is being uses, the OLED is on. I am going to add a toggle. Big time mode is also planned.

1) I kinda would prefer the rotary knob to be blockered out separately and cnced in its won circular spot rather than have a key right below it and in a square cnced spot. Is this possible?

In the new renders, there is no longer a square CNCed spot. I've said that the keyboard shown was a prototype, and also talked about the changes in the first few posts. I've also mentioned this earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 28 January 2019, 13:14:33
Knurled knob?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mpaarating on Mon, 28 January 2019, 14:12:08
Unf this board looks amazing. Can't wait to see the continued progress.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Kawamashi on Mon, 28 January 2019, 15:10:19
Wow, really nice board  !  :D

Will you have a prototype to check that the navy blue matches Calm Depths well ? If so, consider me in !
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 28 January 2019, 18:39:51
Really digging this -- the knob, OLED, and space between the right column and the main cluster are all excellent. Not sure if I can pull together the funds for it, but if not I'll be vicariously living through you all. I think a smaller chamfer might look nice, but I appreciate the aesthetic either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Wed, 30 January 2019, 02:11:44
Never have I wanted an IC to go into GB phase more than this, it looks absolutely incredible!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KeyCap75 on Wed, 30 January 2019, 04:44:12
Wow! Very nice board!
If the PCB can support ISO (plus extra plate or platefiles) this would be my endgame-keyboard!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Asbrodeus on Wed, 30 January 2019, 08:11:11
will there be an option for PVD colored brass or ano aluminum plates?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: madkat13 on Wed, 30 January 2019, 10:21:38
Is there a plan to get Bluetooth?

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 30 January 2019, 10:48:42
will there be an option for PVD colored brass or ano aluminum plates?

Nope, in order to maintain sanity, this will just be offered with brass plates (and FR4). Maybe two colors (gold, silver) but nothing else.
Plate files will be released for those who want others.

Wow! Very nice board!
If the PCB can support ISO (plus extra plate or platefiles) this would be my endgame-keyboard!  ;D

ISO will be supported on the PCB. Plate files will be released.

Is there a plan to get Bluetooth?

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No plans for bluetooth.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: tunadesu on Wed, 30 January 2019, 19:22:50

2) I mentioned this before to you on reddit but I think it does make sense if possible to have the knob be stepped or smooth when rotated (ex Logitech mice scroll wheel allow you to switch between the two).

g502! love that feature. Also, lets hope this goes better than that Leeku75% lol. Remember that thing?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 30 January 2019, 22:22:11
To all my EU friends:

I made an update to the PCB, take a look:
(https://i.imgur.com/Rv6lZ65.png?1)


So the PCB will have ISO :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KeyCap75 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 01:25:30
 :eek: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :D

this is ISO Enter, right?
Will there also be ISO split left shift? Pleeeeeease!!! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Anaconda on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:59:18
You added a split left shift(1.25/1u) as well? that is how 99% of iso layouts are setup. Otherwise looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:15:09
To all my EU friends:

I made an update to the PCB, take a look:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Rv6lZ65.png?1)



So the PCB will have ISO :)

Awesome Upas.. really looking forward to the GB
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Thu, 31 January 2019, 13:56:05
You added a split left shift(1.25/1u) as well? that is how 99% of iso layouts are setup. Otherwise looks great!

:eek: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :D

this is ISO Enter, right?
Will there also be ISO split left shift? Pleeeeeease!!! :D

Yes, of course! Haha, enter was just more annoying to do and route.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: JPVann on Thu, 31 January 2019, 19:01:48
Love this design with the encoder.  Per other suggestions - can't you just ELIMINATE the Print Screen?  Is that really even really used anymore?  This would give you dedicated free space for the encoder.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Thu, 31 January 2019, 19:07:40
Love this design with the encoder.  Per other suggestions - can't you just ELIMINATE the Print Screen?  Is that really even really used anymore?  This would give you dedicated free space for the encoder.

I use the print screen.. A lot! But since this is going to be QMK, we can just map the keys to what we want.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Thu, 31 January 2019, 22:58:11
Hi everyone,

Inspired by Windeh, I decided to check out the displacement of my plate based on a consistent force.
Here are the results: https://imgur.com/a/E2ctUR3

These are imperfect - while I did mount my plate to the case (unlike Windeh), I did not account for O rings, PCB, or switches. Those would change these potentially a lot. But this is a good starting point.

Based on my experimentation, I decided to add a meme cut similar to the Windeh cut in order to make the force on each side of the spacebar more consistent. This should help achieve consistent acoustics from the spacebar, as well as making it less stiff.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 01 February 2019, 09:05:38
Hi everyone,

Inspired by Windeh, I decided to check out the displacement of my plate based on a consistent force.
Here are the results: https://imgur.com/a/E2ctUR3

These are imperfect - while I did mount my plate to the case (unlike Windeh), I did not account for O rings, PCB, or switches. Those would change these potentially a lot. But this is a good starting point.

Based on my experimentation, I decided to add a meme cut similar to the Windeh cut in order to make the force on each side of the spacebar more consistent. This should help achieve consistent acoustics from the spacebar, as well as making it less stiff.

Wow that's super interesting! I presume you want as much the same color around all the keys as you can within reason - any way to do a tiny cutout around the center mount?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: 112227 on Sat, 02 February 2019, 10:56:16
Can't say no to this board. Amazing job.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 02 February 2019, 17:39:19
My round 2 prototype 3d printed rough case arrived.

I built it out with a revised PCB, and found an error - the knob on the PCB was not mounted in the proper place as I did not measure properly.

This is why prototyping is important :)

After Chinese New Year, I'll be placing an order for the next aluminum prototype. If that works out perfectly, the group buy will start soon after.

I've added pictures of the new prototype to the 2nd post in this thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 02 February 2019, 18:11:23
Second proto really getting there upas, great work.

Will the tolerances around the default knob be tighter in the final version (ignoring the off-centering impact) - ie about the same gap as with the keycaps?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: HTN47 on Sat, 02 February 2019, 18:45:33
 :eek: :eek:
Gawd damn!!
This is gonna be my final board for sure  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 02 February 2019, 20:59:49
Second proto really getting there upas, great work.

Will the tolerances around the default knob be tighter in the final version (ignoring the off-centering impact) - ie about the same gap as with the keycaps?

Yep - that's exactly the intent. I actually have a smaller knob on this one than the actual knobs I'm going to use for the GB, because the nice knobs don't fit with the off-center issue.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Mon, 04 February 2019, 21:48:11
Do you have any prototypes of the knobs that that you'll be using?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Mon, 04 February 2019, 22:26:04
Do you have any prototypes of the knobs that that you'll be using?

I've bought a whole bunch of knobs.

Though I am working on custom knobs, I am not going to delay the GB if they aren't ready in time.

I'll have pictures of the knob options when I start the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: swangful on Tue, 05 February 2019, 01:00:42
Do you have any prototypes of the knobs that that you'll be using?

I've bought a whole bunch of knobs.

Though I am working on custom knobs, I am not going to delay the GB if they aren't ready in time.

I'll have pictures of the knob options when I start the GB.

Any timelines on when this GB will get going? :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Tue, 05 February 2019, 06:20:59
Eagerly waiting for this. I donít mind the long wait for as long as every detail is being considered :)
Do you have any update on the other color options that you plan to include? Will e-white be offered?
Also, any ballpark on when the GB will go live? Q2? Q3?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Tue, 05 February 2019, 12:58:00
Do you have any prototypes of the knobs that that you'll be using?

I've bought a whole bunch of knobs.

Though I am working on custom knobs, I am not going to delay the GB if they aren't ready in time.

I'll have pictures of the knob options when I start the GB.

Any timelines on when this GB will get going? :D

Eagerly waiting for this. I donít mind the long wait for as long as every detail is being considered :)
Do you have any update on the other color options that you plan to include? Will e-white be offered?
Also, any ballpark on when the GB will go live? Q2? Q3?

Hopefully GB will start by late March - hopefully earlier but we'll see.
For now, only navy blue and black are planned. They were the top 2 in IC by far. I'm evaluating some white finishes now, so a white finish may also be offered.

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Thu, 07 February 2019, 11:56:51
New renders of the board here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99235.0 look pretty good.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RamenTechMech on Thu, 07 February 2019, 11:58:43
New renders of the board here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99235.0 look pretty good.

Damn that looks good  :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 07 February 2019, 16:37:58
satisfy me
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 07 February 2019, 22:45:29
New renders of the board here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99235.0 look pretty good.

Damn that looks good  :p :p :p
Upas did a great job with this board and it's looking great in that white finish! That guy's keycaps are looking real sick on it too! Might have to join both GB's  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: fcnchuck on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:14:37
Will the layout only support WKL or is a WK an option with a shorter space?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:17:08
Layout support on first post shows that it will support winkey
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2156e0dbbaffd0f243269cdfa357e1c9
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: nasp on Fri, 08 February 2019, 05:06:54
New renders of the board here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99235.0 look pretty good.

Damn that looks good  :p :p :p
Upas did a great job with this board and it's looking great in that white finish! That guy's keycaps are looking real sick on it too! Might have to join both GB's  ;)

I mean...I hope you join your own GB!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rooski15 on Sat, 09 February 2019, 19:30:13
Loving the concept so far - looking forward to GB launch!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 09 February 2019, 20:29:48
Hey guys I wanted to show off some new encoder/OLED features:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sat, 09 February 2019, 22:53:01
Very cool!  Awesome that you're incorporating input from the community  :thumb: looking forward to the GB.  I'm definitely in for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: blizzara01 on Sat, 09 February 2019, 23:54:18
Hey guys I wanted to show off some new encoder/OLED features:

Can it set breathing mode only in one key (Esc) and the others are off?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 10 February 2019, 00:44:10
The wheel is so cooool.
Really expect someday there would also be a joystick on the kustoms.
That would be interesting.  :D :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rooski15 on Sun, 10 February 2019, 02:13:58
Looks amazing! I'm really excited to see where you take this. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: the_high_5 on Sun, 10 February 2019, 02:15:45
I really hope a white case option is possible. Can't wait for GB to start.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: PotatoTM on Sun, 10 February 2019, 02:30:43
Really looking forward to this GB, it seems to keep getting better every time I check back in :P
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Mon, 11 February 2019, 12:26:58
I am very much interested and If I could make a suggestion it would be:
Able to display the Clock across the entire display.
A simple countdown alarm for events...have the keys light/flash up as indicators when the time is up. (display shows remaining time until a certain event)

Do you have any ballpark price point of the keyboard? 300+ 400+?
Will the keyboard be able to use Nordic keys layout?

Looking very promising indeed.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 11 February 2019, 12:29:44
I am very much interested and If I could make a suggestion it would be:
Able to display the Clock across the entire display.
A simple countdown alarm for events...have the keys light/flash up as indicators when the time is up. (display shows remaining time until a certain event)

Do you have any ballpark price point of the keyboard? 300+ 400+?
Will the keyboard be able to use Nordic keys layout?

Looking very promising indeed.

OP have confirmed ISO support  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Mon, 11 February 2019, 13:17:58
Hey guys I wanted to show off some new encoder/OLED features:

Can it set breathing mode only in one key (Esc) and the others are off?

Every key shares the same backlight settings, including breathing.

I really hope a white case option is possible. Can't wait for GB to start.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Hopefully this will work out :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Mon, 11 February 2019, 13:19:01
I placed an order for the 2nd round of prototypes today.

If these prototypes meet the quality bar, I will be using this factory for production as well.

The prototype units should arrive by early next month, and if they are good, the GB will start soon afterwards.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Rensuya on Mon, 11 February 2019, 16:07:46
I placed an order for the 2nd round of prototypes today.

If these prototypes meet the quality bar, I will be using this factory for production as well.

The prototype units should arrive by early next month, and if they are good, the GB will start soon afterwards.
Looking forward to that sexy white!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: h9n9n3 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 06:21:30
So good to see a nice 75% that makes me want to go back to 75% again...
Bluetooth will be such a nice option if provided.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 12 February 2019, 09:25:36
So good to see a nice 75% that makes me want to go back to 75% again...
Bluetooth will be such a nice option if provided.
have to concur.. i thought the Xeno 75% was the bees' knees, but it took way too long to get going and then this beauty came along and stole my heart.

also agree about bluetooth, i am just now realizing the value of going cordless. upas already said no plans for bluetooth, but perhaps in a future iteration..
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 10:00:49
So good to see a nice 75% that makes me want to go back to 75% again...
Bluetooth will be such a nice option if provided.
have to concur.. i thought the Xeno 75% was the bees' knees, but it took way too long to get going and then this beauty came along and stole my heart.

also agree about bluetooth, i am just now realizing the value of going cordless. upas already said no plans for bluetooth, but perhaps in a future iteration..

I felt the same way about Xeno, I was planning on it being the last board I buy. However I'm probably going to end up joining this GB too. Which is fine since this can be my home board and Xeno my work board or vice versa.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Tue, 12 February 2019, 10:12:14
If I could register a purchase today I would , i am also considering the Xeno or this one. Given that the xeno has no support for ISO layout (no big deal) I am leaning towards this beauty. The dial wheel is what sells it to me , hopefully it will be very tactile.
Hopefully I can get in line before the cut off point:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: phorx on Tue, 12 February 2019, 10:39:58
This is a guaranteed order for me too.  Hoping a variety of colour options.  Will raw aluminum also be an available option if we want to get it anodized/cerakoted ourselves?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Ephemeral on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:12:46
The dial wheel is what sells it to me , hopefully it will be very tactile.

The dial wheel has got me sold too. It sounds pretty tactile based on the videos.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Tue, 12 February 2019, 11:24:40
I donīt know if a calculator would be possible to be included but I think this video is a good example of how final a layout could look.
Perhaps you should come into contact with the guy who made the mod.  (more relevant if any future version is with a numpad)
 

Include a Countdown timer, I can already see it in front of me... dialing up the time and clicking it in to set it.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 20:37:41
+1 for the countdown timer. It will help me for when I'm doing laundry. LOL
But seriously, it will be a useful feature. Also hoping to have an e-coated white option as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: DarkMio on Wed, 13 February 2019, 06:24:28
I donīt know if a calculator would be possible to be included but I think this video is a good example of how final a layout could look.
Perhaps you should come into contact with the guy who made the mod.  (more relevant if any future version is with a numpad)
 

Include a Countdown timer, I can already see it in front of me... dialing up the time and clicking it in to set it.

I'm going to get that keyboard from the GB and I am pretty familiar with writing QMK software (through the Massdrop CTRL). If the creator doesn't supply a calculator, I'll write you one. It's pretty easy and convenient, too. If you don't mind it being not scientific, it shouldn't take too long to write an implementation on QMK (and I could already prep it on the Massdrop CTRL, too).
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Wed, 13 February 2019, 08:30:21
I donīt know if a calculator would be possible to be included but I think this video is a good example of how final a layout could look.
Perhaps you should come into contact with the guy who made the mod.  (more relevant if any future version is with a numpad)
 

Include a Countdown timer, I can already see it in front of me... dialing up the time and clicking it in to set it.

I'm going to get that keyboard from the GB and I am pretty familiar with writing QMK software (through the Massdrop CTRL). If the creator doesn't supply a calculator, I'll write you one. It's pretty easy and convenient, too. If you don't mind it being not scientific, it shouldn't take too long to write an implementation on QMK (and I could already prep it on the Massdrop CTRL, too).
Thatís very kind and appreciated. I think others would also like the idea of a calculator or countdown timer.
I think a regular basic calculator is the best option.
Again , thank you for sharing your knowledge and for your willingness to help.

Hopefully I can grab a keyboard before itís gone


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 13 February 2019, 09:00:50
I donīt know if a calculator would be possible to be included but I think this video is a good example of how final a layout could look.
Perhaps you should come into contact with the guy who made the mod.  (more relevant if any future version is with a numpad)
 

Include a Countdown timer, I can already see it in front of me... dialing up the time and clicking it in to set it.

I'm going to get that keyboard from the GB and I am pretty familiar with writing QMK software (through the Massdrop CTRL). If the creator doesn't supply a calculator, I'll write you one. It's pretty easy and convenient, too. If you don't mind it being not scientific, it shouldn't take too long to write an implementation on QMK (and I could already prep it on the Massdrop CTRL, too).

I have a lot on my plate already, so I will let you write the calculator :) The actual timer part of the countdown timer would also be not too hard, but making the UI on the OLED could be time consuming. Thank you so much for offering help! If you want to get a head start, feel free to DM me here or on discord - there is hardware available. I'd also love to give support and talk approach with you.

That being said:

While I wish I could personally support every feature suggested, I don't want people to underestimate the work that's already gone into this, and the additional work I already have planned.

No one has used the stm32f072 for the sort of features included here. A ton of work has gone into making this particular chip work with the OLED screen. Real Time Clock is a new thing that to my knowledge, no other GB keyboard has. Writing new views for the OLED screen takes a lot of time and thought. And no one has used the encoder with as many modes as are supported here.

Not to mention, all the work in VIA and QMK that has to be done. I'm constantly trying to add new things, focused mostly on easy configuration so that people don't have to be QMK experts or programmers to get the encoder to do what they want, change keymaps, etc.

I've pretty much selected the set of features I want to support - at this point, any other features won't really make the cut, and will have to be community implemented.

I think a lot of the features suggested here are interesting and good, but there's only so much time I have on top of my day job to work on this while still maintaining my sanity  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Wed, 13 February 2019, 10:08:37
Totally cool with trying to implement my own ideas for screen and encoder.  As long as your original code will be available for review, to see how you did what you're doing, I should be able to figure it out!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: DarkMio on Wed, 13 February 2019, 10:54:54
-snip-

Not to mention, all the work in VIA and QMK that has to be done. I'm constantly trying to add new things, focused mostly on easy configuration so that people don't have to be QMK experts or programmers to get the encoder to do what they want, change keymaps, etc.

I've pretty much selected the set of features I want to support - at this point, any other features won't really make the cut, and will have to be community implemented.

I think a lot of the features suggested here are interesting and good, but there's only so much time I have on top of my day job to work on this while still maintaining my sanity  :cool:

The chip choice is, in my personal opinion, the only thing that may limit it. How much memory does your firmware already take? I guess the LEDs won't be RGB, because you won't be driving RGB + OLED with "just" 48MHz.

So, I guess there is little to change the processor (if you checked the IC google sheet, I suggested another microprocessor there with good headroom) - for building some software I may need a parts + wiring list, I can source most things and got the necessary hardware to cobble something together. Do you have a reduced testbed? I'm hanging around in the QMK discord, so we could move this talk over there.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 13 February 2019, 14:35:54
-snip-

Not to mention, all the work in VIA and QMK that has to be done. I'm constantly trying to add new things, focused mostly on easy configuration so that people don't have to be QMK experts or programmers to get the encoder to do what they want, change keymaps, etc.

I've pretty much selected the set of features I want to support - at this point, any other features won't really make the cut, and will have to be community implemented.

I think a lot of the features suggested here are interesting and good, but there's only so much time I have on top of my day job to work on this while still maintaining my sanity  :cool:

The chip choice is, in my personal opinion, the only thing that may limit it. How much memory does your firmware already take? I guess the LEDs won't be RGB, because you won't be driving RGB + OLED with "just" 48MHz.

So, I guess there is little to change the processor (if you checked the IC google sheet, I suggested another microprocessor there with good headroom) - for building some software I may need a parts + wiring list, I can source most things and got the necessary hardware to cobble something together. Do you have a reduced testbed? I'm hanging around in the QMK discord, so we could move this talk over there.

I disagree lol, the chip choice is already overkill. This is a keyboard we're talking about here - most run on AVR which are way more limited (most keyboards use atmega32u4, which has a whopping 16 MHz processor with 16 KB of flash space and 1 KB of RAM - in comparison, this has a 48 MHz processor, 128K of flash, and 16 KB of RAM). 48 MHz is more than enough to drive OLED, and would also be enough to drive RGB, but I have chosen not to do that.

In any case - let's sync up on discord. I'm also in the QMK discord so just ping me and we'll get talking!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Wed, 13 February 2019, 17:52:04
+1 for the countdown timer! This would help me with my time management when in front of the computer.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Fri, 15 February 2019, 12:28:28
Quote
'Keycap compatibility with most GMK base kits (Need 1.75 shift and 65% right side keys)'

Could someone elaborate on what that means? (not used to keyboard tech)
I am considering buying: GMK Carbon or GMK Honeywell. Will those work? Do I need to buy a special set or will any do? (right side is 65% key sizes?) (do these include the correct size shift and the right side keys?)
(http://i.imgur.com/2VPFxBj.png)

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: nudoh on Sat, 16 February 2019, 05:07:12
Board looks stunning, looking forward to this. Filled out the form :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: MrFurrior on Sat, 16 February 2019, 14:52:18
Any ideas on when this will be released? Really itching to get this one!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: DasGnome on Sat, 16 February 2019, 17:54:51
Quote
'Keycap compatibility with most GMK base kits (Need 1.75 shift and 65% right side keys)'

Could someone elaborate on what that means? (not used to keyboard tech)
I am considering buying: GMK Carbon or GMK Honeywell. Will those work? Do I need to buy a special set or will any do? (right side is 65% key sizes?) (do these include the correct size shift and the right side keys?)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2VPFxBj.png)



This guide by matt30 answers your questions in decent detail https://matt3o.com/anatomy-of-a-keyboard/ (https://matt3o.com/anatomy-of-a-keyboard/), but the gist is that most GMK sets have a shift with size 1.75u (1u being the size of the smallest key on a keyboard like the alphas) and correctly profiled keycaps that match the profile of the right modifiers. Whether or not you need a special kit depends on what you buy as different GB runners plan their kits differently. You can see GMK Honeywell on Originative does have these keys included. If you need me to point them out, send me a PM. Keep in mind GMK Carbon has to be bought aftermarket and the image you inked is a render.
Title: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Sat, 16 February 2019, 19:35:26
Quote
'Keycap compatibility with most GMK base kits (Need 1.75 shift and 65% right side keys)'

Could someone elaborate on what that means? (not used to keyboard tech)
I am considering buying: GMK Carbon or GMK Honeywell. Will those work? Do I need to buy a special set or will any do? (right side is 65% key sizes?) (do these include the correct size shift and the right side keys?)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2VPFxBj.png)



This guide by matt30 answers your questions in decent detail https://matt3o.com/anatomy-of-a-keyboard/ (https://matt3o.com/anatomy-of-a-keyboard/), but the gist is that most GMK sets have a shift with size 1.75u (1u being the size of the smallest key on a keyboard like the alphas) and correctly profiled keycaps that match the profile of the right modifiers. Whether or not you need a special kit depends on what you buy as different GB runners plan their kits differently. You can see GMK Honeywell on Originative does have these keys included. If you need me to point them out, send me a PM. Keep in mind GMK Carbon has to be bought aftermarket and the image you inked is a render.
Thanks for the feedback , a question regarding layout. Would this keyboard support this layout? A sort of hybrid ANSI with ISO Enter and the extra key. (Ignore the number pad and the extra buttons)

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/3fcc90540ef063b4bddb403d799b1152

(http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/3fcc90540ef063b4bddb403d799b1152)
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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 20 February 2019, 22:51:38
The second round of prototyping is well underway:

(https://i.imgur.com/j6RsrVz.jpg?1)

These should be getting finished in the next couple weeks, and I'll likely have them in-hand in early March.

Stay tuned for GB details!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 20 February 2019, 22:53:36
The second round of prototyping is well underway:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j6RsrVz.jpg?1)


These should be getting finished in the next couple weeks, and I'll likely have them in-hand in early March.

Stay tuned for GB details!
Looks good... nice relief cuts.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Wed, 20 February 2019, 22:54:39
That prototype looks great! How does the rotary encoder fit compared to the 3D printed one? Super hyped for this GB :p
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vicissitude on Wed, 20 February 2019, 23:13:49
The oled screen is so attractive.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: TuCZnak on Thu, 21 February 2019, 09:52:05
Looks nice! Would it be hard to incorporate switch-top opening to the plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: cfiggis on Wed, 27 February 2019, 14:45:54
Looking forward to this. A nice, unique board concept!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 27 February 2019, 21:01:27
I am so excited about this board. +1 on the timer. I'd love to see a matching numpad - maybe call it the outrigger to keep it in theme? I'd also do dirty things to get this in submarine yellow.  Think of GMK Nautilus in sub yellow, diving to find the wreck of a pirate ship! 
Anyways I'm definitely in on this, I love the feature set.


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 28 February 2019, 11:34:37
Looking at the first proto, second proto and the renders, what will be the bottom row options for the end product?

Renders show 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5
Proto's go a different route, 1,25-1,25-1,25-6,25-1-1-1

Will this be fixed? Triple 1u bottom row might be an issue for older sets. What will be pcb and plate(s) be like? My suggestion woud be 1,25-1,25-1,25-7-1,5-1,5.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: eskimojo14 on Thu, 28 February 2019, 12:16:37
Looking at the first proto, second proto and the renders, what will be the bottom row options for the end product?

Renders show 1.5-1.5-7-1.5-1.5
Proto's go a different route, 1,25-1,25-1,25-6,25-1-1-1

Will this be fixed? Triple 1u bottom row might be an issue for older sets. What will be pcb and plate(s) be like? My suggestion woud be 1,25-1,25-1,25-7-1,5-1,5.

PCB support KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2156e0dbbaffd0f243269cdfa357e1c9) in original post shows support for both, along with standard split space.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 28 February 2019, 13:37:19
Thank you for reminding me Iím blind. Guess I need new glasses again.


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Thu, 28 February 2019, 17:55:56
I am so excited about this board. +1 on the timer. I'd love to see a matching numpad - maybe call it the outrigger to keep it in theme? I'd also do dirty things to get this in submarine yellow.  Think of GMK Nautilus in sub yellow, diving to find the wreck of a pirate ship! 
Anyways I'm definitely in on this, I love the feature set.


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Iím thinking this will be a great board for Nautilus Nightmares, Nines, Eclipse, even the Purple Dragon set. May even be really sick with Bentō. Keeping a close eye on this board for sure


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sozo on Thu, 28 February 2019, 21:23:22
Looking forward to this board!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Thu, 28 February 2019, 22:51:51
Hi guys,

I have a few updates about the prototypes. My manufacturer has some partners that help with anodization, but their usual partner was not able to match the desired navy blue color.
While they could make some quite nice shades of blue, I believe Navy Blue is pretty key to the goal and theme of this board. I told my manufacturer this, so now we are going to use a different partner for anodization.

Unfortunately, that means there is going to be a delay in the prototyping. Once something has been anodized once, the quality will start to decrease drastically when it is stripped and re-anodized. We're essentially starting from scratch with one of the two prototypes, so the group buy will likely be set back a couple weeks.

That said, I really want to deliver on the vision set out in the first page of the IC. I need to ensure the quality of these prototypes is high, so that you will all be pleased with the board :). I'd rather delay the group buy and deliver great results, than rush things and have people be unhappy.

My goal is to start the GB in March. Given this setback, it may be delayed till April, but please trust that it will happen and I am doing my best!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Thu, 28 February 2019, 22:53:06
Hi guys,

I have a few updates about the prototypes. My manufacturer has some partners that help with anodization, but their usual partner was not able to match the desired navy blue color.
While they could make some quite nice shades of blue, I believe Navy Blue is pretty key to the goal and theme of this board. I told my manufacturer this, so now we are going to use a different partner for anodization.

Unfortunately, that means there is going to be a delay in the prototyping. Once something has been anodized once, the quality will start to decrease drastically when it is stripped and re-anodized. We're essentially starting from scratch with one of the two prototypes, so the group buy will likely be set back a couple weeks.

That said, I really want to deliver on the vision set out in the first page of the IC. I need to ensure the quality of these prototypes is high, so that you will all be pleased with the board :). I'd rather delay the group buy and deliver great results, than rush things and have people be unhappy.

My goal is to start the GB in March. Given this setback, it may be delayed till April, but please trust that it will happen and I am doing my best!
Take the time you need to get it right! This board is going to be killer!


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: thecyangiant on Thu, 28 February 2019, 22:53:35
Better to delay for greatness than settle for anything less

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RamenTechMech on Thu, 28 February 2019, 23:20:34
Best to delay it for it to be perfect and to let us recoup our money  :))  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: mrpetrov on Thu, 28 February 2019, 23:23:19
Take all the time you need Upas, we'll be here!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Fri, 01 March 2019, 00:56:49
Best to delay it for it to be perfect and to let us recoup our money  :))  :cool:
Also this! I need a cool down period, the start of this year has been expensive for boards! Lol


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: MrFurrior on Fri, 01 March 2019, 02:05:42
Hi guys,

I have a few updates about the prototypes. My manufacturer has some partners that help with anodization, but their usual partner was not able to match the desired navy blue color.
While they could make some quite nice shades of blue, I believe Navy Blue is pretty key to the goal and theme of this board. I told my manufacturer this, so now we are going to use a different partner for anodization.

Unfortunately, that means there is going to be a delay in the prototyping. Once something has been anodized once, the quality will start to decrease drastically when it is stripped and re-anodized. We're essentially starting from scratch with one of the two prototypes, so the group buy will likely be set back a couple weeks.

That said, I really want to deliver on the vision set out in the first page of the IC. I need to ensure the quality of these prototypes is high, so that you will all be pleased with the board :). I'd rather delay the group buy and deliver great results, than rush things and have people be unhappy.

My goal is to start the GB in March. Given this setback, it may be delayed till April, but please trust that it will happen and I am doing my best!

This makes me happy, better to get it right than to just throw something out there like some people have on here...
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 01 March 2019, 05:39:56
You took the right decision, the navy blue is really important for me !

Will you share some pics of the new blue proto when you're satisfied about it ?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 01 March 2019, 08:07:08
IC form completed
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: p_blaze on Fri, 01 March 2019, 18:05:55
Honestly, IC's should take a long time. Do not be afraid to delay the GB. Problems that could have been fixed in the IC showing up in the GB will suck for everyone is it seems to be becoming more common on newer GBs.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 01 March 2019, 19:37:26
Please hold off so I csn save more $ for this lul! We just had the Xeno GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Fri, 01 March 2019, 20:00:25
Having this delay is actually quite good for me and my beloved wallet. My wallet will love me again. Even if it's just for a few weeks. Maybe.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sat, 02 March 2019, 16:28:34
Just one question, can the screen be more or less at the same height of the case or there will be a different height between them so a sort of hole? 
(I would prefer the screen to be at the same height of the case, so when you put the finger here you don't feel like there is a hole)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sadmachine on Sat, 02 March 2019, 20:01:40
Just one question, can the screen be more or less at the same height of the case or there will be a different height between them so a sort of hole? 
(I would prefer the screen to be at the same height of the case, so when you put the finger here you don't feel like there is a hole)

I agree that the screen flush with the case would make it cleaner...esp. easier to clean those inside edges where dust may collect over time.
Either way, so hyped.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: omjak on Sat, 02 March 2019, 21:49:00
Any thoughts on Gray (dark/titanium) alum, and or polycarb?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: bleair2 on Sun, 03 March 2019, 01:14:58
Answer is likely obvious, but... The PCB is going to work with cherry mx switches only?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 03 March 2019, 02:45:28
Really love the navy blue color in your render.
Hope to see the real decent navy blue after anodized.
Thanks for the hard work.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Xerra on Sun, 03 March 2019, 07:03:39
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 03 March 2019, 13:04:32
Just one question, can the screen be more or less at the same height of the case or there will be a different height between them so a sort of hole? 
(I would prefer the screen to be at the same height of the case, so when you put the finger here you don't feel like there is a hole)

I agree that the screen flush with the case would make it cleaner...esp. easier to clean those inside edges where dust may collect over time.
Either way, so hyped.

Cleaning might be also a reason but i meant for the aesthetic, a flush display with the case would look better imho
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sadmachine on Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:12:36
Just one question, can the screen be more or less at the same height of the case or there will be a different height between them so a sort of hole? 
(I would prefer the screen to be at the same height of the case, so when you put the finger here you don't feel like there is a hole)

I agree that the screen flush with the case would make it cleaner...esp. easier to clean those inside edges where dust may collect over time.
Either way, so hyped.

Cleaning might be also a reason but i meant for the aesthetic, a flush display with the case would look better imho

Sorry, I meant to fully agree with you with the first part of my response then segue into a play on words. Failed delivery/poor attempt on my part. Pls give me a pass...studying for professional exams atm :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:04:00
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

+1 Any update on this? I want to know as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 12:49:32
(https://i.imgur.com/eFfmdb3.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:22:21
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

+1 Any update on this? I want to know as well.
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

I have not yet received the prototypes in hand, but my factory has sent me pictures of the white finish. It looks great :)

(https://i.imgur.com/TXIXnfu.jpg)

Hopefully when I have it in person, it will be just as great and satisfying. While I can't promise I'll offer it (the quality could be poor), it's looking promising.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: efftwo on Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:23:30
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

+1 Any update on this? I want to know as well.
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

I have not yet received the prototypes in hand, but my factory has sent me pictures of the white finish. It looks great :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TXIXnfu.jpg)


Hopefully when I have it in person, it will be just as great and satisfying.

Wow, that looks amazing. So excited for this..


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Wed, 06 March 2019, 22:24:40
I'm incredibly hyped for this, great work so far
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Xerra on Thu, 07 March 2019, 02:31:11
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

+1 Any update on this? I want to know as well.
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

I have not yet received the prototypes in hand, but my factory has sent me pictures of the white finish. It looks great :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TXIXnfu.jpg)


Hopefully when I have it in person, it will be just as great and satisfying. While I can't promise I'll offer it (the quality could be poor), it's looking promising.

Thanks for the update! From the picture, the texture seems quite good. Can't really tell the temperature of the white though. I'm hoping it'd be slightly warmer, to match the WS1 of Mizu and Minimal! Anyways, good to see things progressing well!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 10:07:44
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

+1 Any update on this? I want to know as well.
Any updates on the white case option? Would be really nice to get something like the one in Mizu renders.

I have not yet received the prototypes in hand, but my factory has sent me pictures of the white finish. It looks great :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TXIXnfu.jpg)


Hopefully when I have it in person, it will be just as great and satisfying. While I can't promise I'll offer it (the quality could be poor), it's looking promising.

Thanks for the update! From the picture, the texture seems quite good. Can't really tell the temperature of the white though. I'm hoping it'd be slightly warmer, to match the WS1 of Mizu and Minimal! Anyways, good to see things progressing well!

This!

I am hoping it turns out good as well!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Tue, 12 March 2019, 01:29:03
Just wanted to say congrats on getting the website up and running! Canít wait for this board to move to GB. I need it!


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 12 March 2019, 05:46:27
love the the white prototype.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Visionaire on Tue, 12 March 2019, 07:08:05
Question: Is it possible to set the sensitivity of the knob in different modes? It looks like you're doing a lot of twisting to do small increments of volume change. Can this be adjusted to something more like 1 full turn goes from 0-100 in volume? Is that software driven?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Tue, 12 March 2019, 18:41:17
I'm really looking forward on how the blue would look like. I'm planning to use Striker on this board  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Dovan1405 on Wed, 13 March 2019, 04:39:41
Has the weight been updated? You said you had something in mind. I love the clean look on this thou.

Will this board be limited or something???


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Wed, 13 March 2019, 10:59:45
I totally missed the screen on this at first. I really love that idea. Will that be externally programmable? Or will it only feature the time/layer info? I don't want to go too far off scope from a keyboard, but putting a real computer with a clock in a board is a big deal. An OLED screen could really do almost anything...

It almost seems like what you're doing with the processor and screen is add a new dimension to customs, and I think that's really cool.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 13 March 2019, 15:33:58
Has the weight been updated? You said you had something in mind. I love the clean look on this thou.

Will this board be limited or something???


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The weight design is complete :)

I promise, there will be a new wealth of information released once I receive my 2nd round prototypes. I like to show, not tell. It's way more satisfying :)

To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

I totally missed the screen on this at first. I really love that idea. Will that be externally programmable? Or will it only feature the time/layer info? I don't want to go too far off scope from a keyboard, but putting a real computer with a clock in a board is a big deal. An OLED screen could really do almost anything...

It almost seems like what you're doing with the processor and screen is add a new dimension to customs, and I think that's really cool.

Right now, it features time, layer info, keymatrix info, lock indicators, and encoder mode. I don't have plans on adding further features at the moment, but it's all written in QMK, so others can build upon it. You're right that there is a real computer with a clock in there :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: omjak on Wed, 13 March 2019, 21:31:44
To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

that's very sad news for most of us
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: swangful on Wed, 13 March 2019, 23:16:16
To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

that's very sad news for most of us

Will this be a raffle style then? And yeah. Definitely tired of fighting for keyboards but..its the nature of the game.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: TheMastermind on Wed, 13 March 2019, 23:26:06
To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

that's very sad news for most of us

Will this be a raffle style then? And yeah. Definitely tired of fighting for keyboards but..its the nature of the game.

+1 this. Do we have a possible vendor for the GB?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:28:40
I really like that your prototype supports ctrl+win+alt mods on either side of the space bar. Too often I run across kits that omit the win key and that's a dealbreaker IMO. I am not sure if I will have the $$$ to join this, but am pretty excited about your ortho60 design.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Thu, 14 March 2019, 09:15:26
To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

that's very sad news for most of us

Will this be a raffle style then? And yeah. Definitely tired of fighting for keyboards but..its the nature of the game.

To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.

that's very sad news for most of us

Will this be a raffle style then? And yeah. Definitely tired of fighting for keyboards but..its the nature of the game.

+1 this. Do we have a possible vendor for the GB?

This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: TuCZnak on Thu, 14 March 2019, 11:09:21
This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !
RIP, with raffle there was at least a chance to get it, now we won't even make it to checkout before they sell out
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: gt1989 on Thu, 14 March 2019, 11:15:09
I better make sure that I set up my alarms when we get the time info.

 :p
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: phorx on Thu, 14 March 2019, 12:16:26
This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !
RIP, with raffle there was at least a chance to get it, now we won't even make it to checkout before they sell out

That will depend on how many units this is limited to.  If itís 100, the chances improve greatly.

Iím looking forward to seeing what the colour/ano options are going to be when thatís finalized as well.  I may be looking for a ďrawĒ kit so hopefully thatís possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: swangful on Thu, 14 March 2019, 13:09:22
This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !
RIP, with raffle there was at least a chance to get it, now we won't even make it to checkout before they sell out

That will depend on how many units this is limited to.  If itís 100, the chances improve greatly.

Iím looking forward to seeing what the colour/ano options are going to be when thatís finalized as well.  I may be looking for a ďrawĒ kit so hopefully thatís possible.

Hopefully 100
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Gobluebro on Thu, 14 March 2019, 13:59:09

This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !

Let's hope the website doesn't go down from all the traffic it will have once the group buy begins :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: TheMastermind on Thu, 14 March 2019, 16:43:08
This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !
RIP, with raffle there was at least a chance to get it, now we won't even make it to checkout before they sell out

That will depend on how many units this is limited to.  If itís 100, the chances improve greatly.

Iím looking forward to seeing what the colour/ano options are going to be when thatís finalized as well.  I may be looking for a ďrawĒ kit so hopefully thatís possible.

Hopefully 100
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think op said 50 were being made.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Thu, 14 March 2019, 16:46:14
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think op said 50 were being made.

To maintain my sanity, the board will be limited. There will be more than 50 units though.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Moac on Thu, 14 March 2019, 16:53:20
Any idea when we can expect final design and the options reveal?
Iíll most likely buy Box navy switches to go with this board.
I hope to be able to buy one before they are sold out , any plans for an additional batch if these sell well?


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: p_blaze on Thu, 14 March 2019, 18:15:14
Please don't do FCFS, all the bots and folks with flaming finger macros will get the board and flip it as usual
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 14 March 2019, 18:57:33

This will be FCFS.

I'm the vendor :) Check out my new store, https://cannonkeys.com !

Let's hope the website doesn't go down from all the traffic it will have once the group buy begins :)

Please remember to share the Date/hour/timezone before the gb actually goes live (days before possibly).  I would be a bit disappointed to miss this to someone that enters just to flip. 

A time that is acceptable for both US and EU would be great to be honest (yeah EU people uses ANSI as well) 
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: BlankeyGotCaps on Fri, 15 March 2019, 10:45:35
^ Please give us a heads up.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: vicissitude on Fri, 15 March 2019, 10:55:41
FCFS  :eek: :eek:

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sozo on Fri, 15 March 2019, 17:49:43
I can't wait
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Jermane on Fri, 15 March 2019, 23:08:19
FCFS, yikes. Really hoping to get in on this.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 15 March 2019, 23:14:55
FCFS, yikes. Really hoping to get in on this.

First post. Welcome to GH.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: TheMastermind on Sat, 16 March 2019, 00:33:44
FCFS, yikes. Really hoping to get in on this.

First post. Welcome to GH.
Welcome to the hobby.  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Jermane on Sat, 16 March 2019, 01:08:00
FCFS, yikes. Really hoping to get in on this.

First post. Welcome to GH.
Welcome to the hobby.  :-\

Oh I've been around just never made an account on here before but this board made me finally do it. ITS PERFECT.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Sat, 16 March 2019, 01:08:31
FCFS, yikes. Really hoping to get in on this.
Itís really not as bad as it sounds. If you know the option ahead of time, itís a matter of filling out the fields for PP, username, and platform (typically) and then filling in the bubbles for what you want and hitting submit. Decide ahead of time and be quick and youíve got as good a chance as any
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Sat, 16 March 2019, 01:17:50
If the options are known ahead of time.  Good GB should have that.  I've seen them where options were different/modified and completely new options appeared on the GB form when it went live.  Caused many to miss out.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:29:33
If the options are known ahead of time.  Good GB should have that.  I've seen them where options were different/modified and completely new options appeared on the GB form when it went live.  Caused many to miss out.

I will definitely release all options ahead of time! And I'll also release all the GB details at least 1 week before the GB starts.

The remade prototypes should be finishing up soon, hope to have an update on that soon :).
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: rondg on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:34:21
Will there be only one GB run?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: thecyangiant on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:47:26
If the options are known ahead of time.  Good GB should have that.  I've seen them where options were different/modified and completely new options appeared on the GB form when it went live.  Caused many to miss out.

I will definitely release all options ahead of time! And I'll also release all the GB details at least 1 week before the GB starts.

The remade prototypes should be finishing up soon, hope to have an update on that soon :).
Excellent! I'm so excited to see the progress! I really hope to own one of these!

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Jermane on Sun, 17 March 2019, 01:58:52
If the options are known ahead of time.  Good GB should have that.  I've seen them where options were different/modified and completely new options appeared on the GB form when it went live.  Caused many to miss out.

I will definitely release all options ahead of time! And I'll also release all the GB details at least 1 week before the GB starts.

The remade prototypes should be finishing up soon, hope to have an update on that soon :).

Awesome! Thanks for letting us know ahead of time that you will let us know ahead of time :D This will certainly be my end game board. hope everything goes smoothly with your protos.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Uryftw on Mon, 18 March 2019, 09:06:37
I am definitely interested in this.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Tue, 19 March 2019, 12:42:18
Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:59
Can't wait! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:49:24
Squeeeeeeeee

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Tekniqs on Tue, 19 March 2019, 16:48:52
in for cloud white or stormy grey
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: swangful on Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:28:02
Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!

Missed opportunity for the black pearl
Stoked either way
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sozo on Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:28:35
In for deep ocean blue!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:45:51
Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!

Nice Upas! Pirate black all the way!  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: Jermane on Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:30:32
Nooo my purple! It's okay that blue is incredible.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: omjak on Tue, 19 March 2019, 23:36:59

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


Will there be a standard knob (not custom) that will come with the board? 
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: japancakes on Wed, 20 March 2019, 03:03:07
Is brass still a color option?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:30:37
Is brass still a color option?

Brass case was never an option. The weight and plate with both be brass.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Wed, 20 March 2019, 08:31:14

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


Will there be a standard knob (not custom) that will come with the board?

Yes! I have some very nice knobs lined up, they just aren't custom. When I receive prototypes and build them out, you'll see them.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ian13 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 22:24:34
Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!

Missed opportunity for the black pearl
Stoked either way

Oof! I, for one, would like to have it named Black Pearl.  :p But that's fine  :thumb:
I hope to be able to get in on the Cloud White board, though  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: MrFurrior on Thu, 21 March 2019, 04:57:17
Seeing this as FCFS is making me anxious, I need this board for home! D: Please don't make it go on sale like 2am UK time.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: unluckyxiii on Thu, 21 March 2019, 05:46:02
Really like this board. The oled display and the knob. Too bad I canít use on Mac with wkl.


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ErgoMacros on Thu, 21 March 2019, 11:54:36
Really like this board. The oled display and the knob. Too bad I canít use on Mac with wkl.


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Looks to me like Win key is an option (from the first post):
   http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2156e0dbbaffd0f243269cdfa357e1c9
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: unluckyxiii on Thu, 21 March 2019, 12:01:52
Ah my bad cos I saw that line about no other bottom row layout support and assumed a fixed wks layout. Great now we just have to wait!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: KevlarBear on Thu, 21 March 2019, 12:04:11
Also, it is QMK, so you can make any key the cmd key. Alternatively you can go System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard > Modifier Keys and set it up there as well
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Thu, 21 March 2019, 14:36:01
Really like this board. The oled display and the knob. Too bad I canít use on Mac with wkl.


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Looks to me like Win key is an option (from the first post):
   http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2156e0dbbaffd0f243269cdfa357e1c9

Ah my bad cos I saw that line about no other bottom row layout support and assumed a fixed wks layout. Great now we just have to wait!

I updated the gist with the ISO PCB support :) The gist shows the PCB support, the plate layouts won't necessarily agree with the PCB (I won't have a fully universal plate), but I will release DXF files for plates.

I'll have more information about plates coming up soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: unluckyxiii on Thu, 21 March 2019, 14:52:29
Also, it is QMK, so you can make any key the cmd key. Alternatively you can go System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard > Modifier Keys and set it up there as well

Yes but I use the cmd key very frequently and it has to not in an odd place


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: unluckyxiii on Thu, 21 March 2019, 14:53:03
Really like this board. The oled display and the knob. Too bad I canít use on Mac with wkl.


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Looks to me like Win key is an option (from the first post):
   http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2156e0dbbaffd0f243269cdfa357e1c9

Ah my bad cos I saw that line about no other bottom row layout support and assumed a fixed wks layout. Great now we just have to wait!

I updated the gist with the ISO PCB support :) The gist shows the PCB support, the plate layouts won't necessarily agree with the PCB (I won't have a fully universal plate), but I will release DXF files for plates.

I'll have more information about plates coming up soon.

Thanks definitely looking forward to it!


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: odd on Fri, 22 March 2019, 17:22:09
The ultimate 75 coumt me in for sure
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: shodid on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:06:02
I'm interested in this.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: ricesteam on Sun, 24 March 2019, 15:25:24
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 24 March 2019, 15:42:38
Triple interested
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: upas on Sun, 24 March 2019, 16:10:11
Hello everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. This weekend, I received the two Satisfaction 75 prototypes. And unfortunately, they both fell far short of my quality bar. While the machining was decent for the most part, the finishing quality was quite poor, and frankly unacceptable.

This means two things are going to happen - 1st, this group buy is now going to be delayed again. I'm going to have to spend more of my own money to do a 3rd prototyping round with another factory. That being said, I am very happy with my decision to frontload all the spending and prototyping in order to execute a successful group buy, and I will continue to use this method until I'm confident that my selected manufacturer can deliver.

Second, I am now opening up an IC for my Brutal60 board, which will run before Satisfaction 75, so that I have time to work with a new factory on achieving the desired quality. I have already run a private group buy for the Brutal60, and already have a factory that can meet the quality bar, so as long as there is interest, the Group Buy for Brutal60 will start very soon. Keep your eyes open for a post on that soon!

But not all is lost! I still have two more functioning prototypes of the Satisfaction75, which I will be using to show off some of the cool features, and reveal some new information :). Here are some photos, where you can see some of the issues. I also wish I had a more fitting keycap set for this, but I had to use ePBT Greyscale, since it was all I had available.

(https://i.imgur.com/yzztyvK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i37Ar0d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ydnt7FZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zpBB3kA.jpg)

Example of issues:
(https://i.imgur.com/oyoWymx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/e7cGXvI.png)

It's unfortunate that the group buy will be delayed, but please understand this is for the best. I want the Satisfaction 75 to be a satisfying experience when it is finally delivered, and I'm not willing to compromise on that.


P.S. If you haven't already, check out my store, https://cannonkeys.com ! We recently launched and hope we have something you might like!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: gt1989 on Sun, 24 March 2019, 16:15:32
Hello everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. This weekend, I received the two Satisfaction 75 prototypes. And unfortunately, they both fell far short of my quality bar. While the machining was decent for the most part, the finishing quality was quite poor, and frankly unacceptable.

This means two things are going to happen - 1st, this group buy is now going to be delayed again. I'm going to have to spend more of my own money to do a 3rd prototyping round with another factory. That being said, I am very happy with my decision to frontload all the spending and prototyping in order to execute a successful group buy, and I will continue to use this method until I'm confident that my selected manufacturer can deliver.

Second, I am now opening up an IC for my Brutal60 board, which will run before Satisfaction 75, so that I have time to work with a new factory on achieving the desired quality. I have already run a private group buy for the Brutal60, and already have a factory that can meet the quality bar, so as long as there is interest, the Group Buy for Brutal60 will start very soon. Keep your eyes open for a post on that soon!

But not all is lost! I still have two more functioning prototypes of the Satisfaction75, which I will be using to show off some of the cool features, and reveal some new information :). Here are some photos, where you can see some of the issues. I also wish I had a more fitting keycap set for this, but I had to use ePBT Greyscale, since it was all I had available.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yzztyvK.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i37Ar0d.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydnt7FZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zpBB3kA.jpg)


Example of issues:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oyoWymx.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/e7cGXvI.png)


It's unfortunate that the group buy will be delayed, but please understand this is for the best. I want the Satisfaction 75 to be a satisfying experience when it is finally delivered, and I'm not willing to compromise on that.


P.S. If you haven't already, check out my store, https://cannonkeys.com ! We recently launched and hope we have something you might like!
I'm more than willing to wait for a group buy when it comes to QC issues. I'm glad that you're doing all these prototypes before running it.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Moac on Sun, 24 March 2019, 16:17:01
Hello everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. This weekend, I received the two Satisfaction 75 prototypes. And unfortunately, they both fell far short of my quality bar. While the machining was decent for the most part, the finishing quality was quite poor, and frankly unacceptable.

This means two things are going to happen - 1st, this group buy is now going to be delayed again. I'm going to have to spend more of my own money to do a 3rd prototyping round with another factory. That being said, I am very happy with my decision to frontload all the spending and prototyping in order to execute a successful group buy, and I will continue to use this method until I'm confident that my selected manufacturer can deliver.

Second, I am now opening up an IC for my Brutal60 board, which will run before Satisfaction 75, so that I have time to work with a new factory on achieving the desired quality. I have already run a private group buy for the Brutal60, and already have a factory that can meet the quality bar, so as long as there is interest, the Group Buy for Brutal60 will start very soon. Keep your eyes open for a post on that soon!

But not all is lost! I still have two more functioning prototypes of the Satisfaction75, which I will be using to show off some of the cool features, and reveal some new information :). Here are some photos, where you can see some of the issues. I also wish I had a more fitting keycap set for this, but I had to use ePBT Greyscale, since it was all I had available.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yzztyvK.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i37Ar0d.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydnt7FZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zpBB3kA.jpg)


Example of issues:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oyoWymx.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/e7cGXvI.png)


It's unfortunate that the group buy will be delayed, but please understand this is for the best. I want the Satisfaction 75 to be a satisfying experience when it is finally delivered, and I'm not willing to compromise on that.


P.S. If you haven't already, check out my store, https://cannonkeys.com ! We recently launched and hope we have something you might like!
I'm more than willing to wait for a group buy when it comes to QC issues. I'm glad that you're doing all these prototypes before running it.

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I think we all can agree with that , the design is on point and the quality control is just a matter of time.




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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: sozo on Sun, 24 March 2019, 22:26:16
Hello everyone,

I have some unfortunate news. This weekend, I received the two Satisfaction 75 prototypes. And unfortunately, they both fell far short of my quality bar. While the machining was decent for the most part, the finishing quality was quite poor, and frankly unacceptable.

This means two things are going to happen - 1st, this group buy is now going to be delayed again. I'm going to have to spend more of my own money to do a 3rd prototyping round with another factory. That being said, I am very happy with my decision to frontload all the spending and prototyping in order to execute a successful group buy, and I will continue to use this method until I'm confident that my selected manufacturer can deliver.

Second, I am now opening up an IC for my Brutal60 board, which will run before Satisfaction 75, so that I have time to work with a new factory on achieving the desired quality. I have already run a private group buy for the Brutal60, and already have a factory that can meet the quality bar, so as long as there is interest, the Group Buy for Brutal60 will start very soon. Keep your eyes open for a post on that soon!

But not all is lost! I still have two more functioning prototypes of the Satisfaction75, which I will be using to show off some of the cool features, and reveal some new information :). Here are some photos, where you can see some of the issues. I also wish I had a more fitting keycap set for this, but I had to use ePBT Greyscale, since it was all I had available.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yzztyvK.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i37Ar0d.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ydnt7FZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zpBB3kA.jpg)


Example of issues:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oyoWymx.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/e7cGXvI.png)


It's unfortunate that the group buy will be delayed, but please understand this is for the best. I want the Satisfaction 75 to be a satisfying experience when it is finally delivered, and I'm not willing to compromise on that.


P.S. If you haven't already, check out my store, https://cannonkeys.com ! We recently launched and hope we have something you might like!

dang that sucks. Thanks for being transparent with the interest check people! Regardless, I'm in for this group buy. Your dedication to putting out the best possible product is amazing and I can't wait for this amazing board! GL with the new prototype, hopefully everything's up to par this time around
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Tue, 26 March 2019, 00:05:53
Took a couple of sound test videos:


Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 26 March 2019, 00:25:56
Nice sound.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: KevlarBear on Tue, 26 March 2019, 01:09:48
The thunk of the encoder when it's pressed sounds so satisfying
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: b4d_tR1p on Tue, 26 March 2019, 04:36:23
Interesting
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 26 March 2019, 11:37:21
Any pictures of how the plate mounting looks, and is a FR4 plate option still planned?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Tue, 26 March 2019, 13:27:33
Any pictures of how the plate mounting looks, and is a FR4 plate option still planned?

This is basically the way it will be mounted:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99959.msg2739730#msg2739730

Same as the Brutal60, but there are 12 potential mounting points instead of 6. You can check out the force displacement charts in the FAQ section of the first few posts.

FR4 plates will be add-on options, brass plate will come with the kit by default.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: cfiggis on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:08:49
Shame the quality wasn't up to snuff, but I'd rather wait to get an acceptable finished product. Keep it up, you've got a great product there!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Telstar on Tue, 26 March 2019, 16:05:46
There is only one thing I don't like and that is the right aligned usb port.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: bj on Thu, 28 March 2019, 04:36:56
looking really nice dude, very keen on this once it goes live!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:26:42
Hey guys,

I have another update! I've found a new factory to produce the board. This took much less time than I thought, so the group buy will likely open sometime in April!

I've placed an order for a sample, and it should be arriving in upcoming weeks.
Once the sample is confirmed good, I'll release some super secret details!

The weight design is finalized. You guys will all get to see it soon ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: thecyangiant on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:38:33
Hey guys,

I have another update! I've found a new factory to produce the board. This took much less time than I thought, so the group buy will likely open sometime in April!

I've placed an order for a sample, and it should be arriving in upcoming weeks.
Once the sample is confirmed good, I'll release some super secret details!

The weight design is finalized. You guys will all get to see it soon ;)
Excellent! fingers crossed that this factory has less qc issues.



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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: farmisen on Fri, 29 March 2019, 14:35:24
Is there any chance  to get a raw non anodized keyboard? Planning to cerakote it and I'd rather not have to have the anodization sandblasted off if I can save it.

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: jortzii on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:16:54
Hey guys,

I have another update! I've found a new factory to produce the board. This took much less time than I thought, so the group buy will likely open sometime in April!

I've placed an order for a sample, and it should be arriving in upcoming weeks.
Once the sample is confirmed good, I'll release some super secret details!

The weight design is finalized. You guys will all get to see it soon ;)
Awesome! Iím nursing my wallet back to health after SA Vilebloom, GMK Metropolis, and some artisans...but I will be here for this!


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: blizzara01 on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:27:04
Hey guys,

I have another update! I've found a new factory to produce the board. This took much less time than I thought, so the group buy will likely open sometime in April!

I've placed an order for a sample, and it should be arriving in upcoming weeks.
Once the sample is confirmed good, I'll release some super secret details!

The weight design is finalized. You guys will all get to see it soon ;)
Excited for super secret details
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: MrFurrior on Fri, 05 April 2019, 13:45:13
Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!

With the change in manufacturer are these still the colours you are hoping for? Really excited for this!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: skyyyy on Fri, 05 April 2019, 15:26:24
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: swangful on Fri, 05 April 2019, 15:27:15
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?

soldering, screwdriver, and learning how to use QMK is probably all you need to know.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Starston3 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 15:35:58
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?

soldering, screwdriver, and learning how to use QMK is probably all you need to know.
No real need to understand QMK as the PCB is supported by VIA, a user friendly UI to remap keys, change lighting and knob controls.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: skyyyy on Fri, 05 April 2019, 15:52:24
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?

soldering, screwdriver, and learning how to use QMK is probably all you need to know.

sounds pretty simple. I've never soldered anything keyboard related, but it cant imagine its extremely complicated. thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: swangful on Fri, 05 April 2019, 16:00:58
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?

soldering, screwdriver, and learning how to use QMK is probably all you need to know.

sounds pretty simple. I've never soldered anything keyboard related, but it cant imagine its extremely complicated. thanks!

definitely not. unless youre soldering SMD leds or trying to desolder a pro-micro, both of which you won't be doing for this keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: skyyyy on Fri, 05 April 2019, 16:06:28
So I'm pretty new to the mechanical keeb community, however I'm in love with this design. How much assembly knowledge will be needed to put it together?

soldering, screwdriver, and learning how to use QMK is probably all you need to know.

cool. thanks for the info.
sounds pretty simple. I've never soldered anything keyboard related, but it cant imagine its extremely complicated. thanks!

definitely not. unless youre soldering SMD leds or trying to desolder a pro-micro, both of which you won't be doing for this keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Sintpinty on Fri, 05 April 2019, 16:45:01
An OLED Screen and a Rotary Encoder? Looks cool :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Pennywise359 on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:01:46
I love it and probably going to be in for this one because I wanted a 75% for long time and satisfaction looks like a perfect candidate for my first 75% board. Despite the quality issues the prototype looks fantastic, the only thing that bothers me is function row. Those gaps without blockers kinda ruin the overall look.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:48:14
I love it and probably going to be in for this one because I wanted a 75% for long time and satisfaction looks like a perfect candidate for my first 75% board. Despite the quality issues the prototype looks fantastic, the only thing that bothers me is function row. Those gaps without blockers kinda ruin the overall look.

The final version, as far as I understand it, will have blockers in the Fn row.
Title: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: jortzii on Sat, 06 April 2019, 18:08:02
I love it and probably going to be in for this one because I wanted a 75% for long time and satisfaction looks like a perfect candidate for my first 75% board. Despite the quality issues the prototype looks fantastic, the only thing that bothers me is function row. Those gaps without blockers kinda ruin the overall look.
Gaps without blockers? The function keys are grouped into sets of 4, each with blockers between if thatís what you were referring to. The sample that he got from the factory that didnít meet his standards has them as itís close to the final design. The only ones without were the early prototypes


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Sun, 07 April 2019, 15:49:28
A few Satisfaction75 related updates:

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: rondg on Sun, 07 April 2019, 17:39:29
A few Satisfaction75 related updates:

  • The new prototype order is well underway, it should arrive in the next couple weeks
  • My fully built Satisfaction75 will be at the Boston Keyboard Meetup, next Saturday, 4/13. Come check it out if you're in the area! More details are on reddit.
  • Jae from TopClack will be doing a build stream with a Satisfaction75 prototype next weekend, Sunday April 14th at 3pm EST

Is it a safe assumption that the GB is more likely to run on May?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Sun, 07 April 2019, 18:33:37
A few Satisfaction75 related updates:

  • The new prototype order is well underway, it should arrive in the next couple weeks
  • My fully built Satisfaction75 will be at the Boston Keyboard Meetup, next Saturday, 4/13. Come check it out if you're in the area! More details are on reddit.
  • Jae from TopClack will be doing a build stream with a Satisfaction75 prototype next weekend, Sunday April 14th at 3pm EST

Is it a safe assumption that the GB is more likely to run on May?

Given the sheer number of GMK sets this month, and for estimated prototyping times, May GB for Satisfaction75 is a safe bet at this point.

Happy to allow people's wallets to recover :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: rondg on Sun, 07 April 2019, 18:41:55
A few Satisfaction75 related updates:

  • The new prototype order is well underway, it should arrive in the next couple weeks
  • My fully built Satisfaction75 will be at the Boston Keyboard Meetup, next Saturday, 4/13. Come check it out if you're in the area! More details are on reddit.
  • Jae from TopClack will be doing a build stream with a Satisfaction75 prototype next weekend, Sunday April 14th at 3pm EST

Is it a safe assumption that the GB is more likely to run on May?

Given the sheer number of GMK sets this month, and for estimated prototyping times, May GB for Satisfaction75 is a safe bet at this point.

Happy to allow people's wallets to recover :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Tyki on Sun, 07 April 2019, 21:36:23
Always like seeing new 7% layouts on the market. How will this compare in size to current offerings like the KBD75 the the upcoming XENO?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Aznakh on Tue, 09 April 2019, 09:29:59
Man, this looks extremely nice. Big fan of the knob and display. As long as my wallet can sustain the damage, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: NovaBlu on Tue, 09 April 2019, 09:59:28
even if the group buy does not happen I would still like to pay for the blueprints so I can get made myself. I am really loving the knob and the small display.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Tue, 09 April 2019, 18:08:32
even if the group buy does not happen I would still like to pay for the blueprints so I can get made myself. I am really loving the knob and the small display.

This group buy will happen. Sometime in May
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: jortzii on Thu, 11 April 2019, 17:05:52
even if the group buy does not happen I would still like to pay for the blueprints so I can get made myself. I am really loving the knob and the small display.

This group buy will happen. Sometime in May
Guess this means that I will have the option to buy a board in april after all... Oh no hahaha
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: DetectiveNio on Thu, 11 April 2019, 17:14:19
I know there's probably only a month until the GB but ... will there be a PC case option?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Thu, 11 April 2019, 19:51:29
I know there's probably only a month until the GB but ... will there be a PC case option?

PC is not planned
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 13 April 2019, 12:37:09
Have you at all decided on what the final colors will be other than the Navy Blue?  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Sat, 13 April 2019, 17:46:17
E-white with GMK Mizu is a dream build.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Capsy on Sat, 13 April 2019, 17:48:33
Any proto pics from the Boston Meetup today?

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: phorx on Sat, 13 April 2019, 22:17:32
E-white with GMK Mizu is a dream build.

E-white would be amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% Keyboard w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder
Post by: jortzii on Sat, 13 April 2019, 23:03:10
Have you at all decided on what the final colors will be other than the Navy Blue?  :D

Hey guys,

I just wanted to officially write down some information that has been made public:

The prototypes are almost done and should ship to me by next week, the factory has matched the desired color, but the finishes still need to be evaluated for quality.

There will be a build stream done of one of the prototypes.

The current plan is to offer more than 50 slots, the actual number has not been revealed.

There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)

While there are plans for custom knobs, they aren't ready yet and likely won't be ready in time for the group buy. The knobs will not delay this group buy, so there will probably be a future group buy for the custom knobs.


I hope to be able to show everyone more once the prototypes arrive!

Mentioned planned colors here, hasn't confirmed 100% yet, likely just waiting on what the factory can do.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 14 April 2019, 10:36:56
Hey guys, Iíll be building the E-White Satisfaction75 on stream later today!

Holy Pandas, Carbon Fibre plate, rotary encoders and a fancy knob ;)

Thanks again to Upas for sending me the board

Come hang out and see the board (plus a brutal60 build) at 8pm UK, 3pm east coast, noon west coast on Top Clack:

https://www.twitch.tv/topclack


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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: phorx on Sun, 14 April 2019, 17:23:30
Hereís a couple pictures I grabbed from the build stream:
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 14 April 2019, 17:44:04
Couple of images of the completed build:



(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/567113859354198017/image0.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358532590107623424/567114350364459029/image0.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 14 April 2019, 19:25:29
Holy lawdy that white is gawjus. Totally sold on this and suuuper excited. Thanks for the build stream Jae!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sun, 14 April 2019, 23:49:39
This is a must. I will sell and trade stupid stupid things to make sure I can get this board.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: add1ct3dd on Mon, 15 April 2019, 06:03:19
Came from reddit... love it!

I was confused how it originally said no ISO, yet this is ISO until I saw the updates.

Registered interest. A deep purple CNC'd 75%? Hell yeah! Subbed.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: rondg on Mon, 15 April 2019, 07:11:17
Came from reddit... love it!

I was confused how it originally said no ISO, yet this is ISO until I saw the updates.

Registered interest. A deep purple CNC'd 75%? Hell yeah! Subbed.

I think that's blue?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: add1ct3dd on Mon, 15 April 2019, 08:31:47
Came from reddit... love it!

I was confused how it originally said no ISO, yet this is ISO until I saw the updates.

Registered interest. A deep purple CNC'd 75%? Hell yeah! Subbed.

I think that's blue?

OP IC form says Purple is potential, I didn't mean the picture lol
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: rondg on Mon, 15 April 2019, 10:18:17
Came from reddit... love it!

I was confused how it originally said no ISO, yet this is ISO until I saw the updates.

Registered interest. A deep purple CNC'd 75%? Hell yeah! Subbed.

I think that's blue?

OP IC form says Purple is potential, I didn't mean the picture lol

Oh ok. I did not see that  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: MrFurrior on Mon, 15 April 2019, 12:32:55
Came from reddit... love it!

I was confused how it originally said no ISO, yet this is ISO until I saw the updates.

Registered interest. A deep purple CNC'd 75%? Hell yeah! Subbed.

I think that's blue?

OP IC form says Purple is potential, I didn't mean the picture lol

"There will be 4 color options, if these prototypes turn out well: Deep Ocean Blue, Pirate Black, Stormy Grey, and Cloud White. These were the top 4 choices in the IC! (Well, purple was before white, but I think white fits the theme better)"

That was from a post from Upas a while back.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: NovaBlu on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:45:05
even if the group buy does not happen I would still like to pay for the blueprints so I can get made myself. I am really loving the knob and the small display.

This group buy will happen. Sometime in May

So, just asking because I'm new here what if I miss the group buys? Will there be a way for me to still get this keyboard?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Sic_Alpha on Tue, 16 April 2019, 12:10:55
So, just asking because I'm new here what if I miss the group buys? Will there be a way for me to still get this keyboard?

Probably on r/mm after the GB at a bit of a markup.  Someone will ultimately sell theirs...
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: goddream on Tue, 16 April 2019, 23:30:24
Definitely in for this GB! Can't wait for it to go live
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: Croktopus on Sat, 20 April 2019, 04:33:34
Are the knobs sourced from somewhere or custom machined for this GB? After seeing the mother of pearl one, I want like a dozen different ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:06:54
Are the knobs sourced from somewhere or custom machined for this GB? After seeing the mother of pearl one, I want like a dozen different ones.

The knobs are sourced as premade knobs, I will be offering a few options.

The new prototype should arrive this week :) If it passes my QC, I'll start to release more information and Group buy details.

The weight design is REALLY cool, I promise!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:17:14


...

The new prototype should arrive this week :) If it passes my QC, I'll start to release more information and Group buy details.

The weight design is REALLY cool, I promise!

Yeeeeeeeeee!

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: BrutalBanana on Tue, 23 April 2019, 16:02:59
Just getting into the hobby and this looks like it ticks every box I would want from a keyboard. Absolutely love the layout and spacing, and the additional features of the rotary encoder will push me into 100% joining the GB. +1 for the e-white

Also, apologies if this is a bad question but I'm unfamiliar with media controls on custom boards. Will media controls and other knob functionality work with any OS (Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux, etc) ?
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: upas on Thu, 25 April 2019, 15:36:03
https://www.instagram.com/cannon.keys/p/BwsS4tUHehE/?igshid=1px2p228zxhmc
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Thu, 25 April 2019, 16:19:57
Tease
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED Screen and Rotary Encoder (3/24 UPDATE)
Post by: rondg on Thu, 25 April 2019, 16:55:35
https://www.instagram.com/cannon.keys/p/BwsS4tUHehE/?igshid=1px2p228zxhmc

When is the GB? will it be in the next 2 weeks?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: poodude on Thu, 25 April 2019, 20:51:29
Is there any way to get a more low profile rotary encoder knob made? I love the look of the original rendered one with the soft curves, it fits the board really well. The tall brass one sticks out a bit too much for me. Probably too expensive, but one made of out resin/plastic would look really nice. Love the progress so far!
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: mrpetrov on Thu, 25 April 2019, 21:15:24
Is there any way to get a more low profile rotary encoder knob made? I love the look of the original rendered one with the soft curves, it fits the board really well. The tall brass one sticks out a bit too much for me. Probably too expensive, but one made of out resin/plastic would look really nice. Love the progress so far!

He has mentioned in the past that he may explore options for alternative knobs after the GB, but that he didn't want to hold up the GB for the knob.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: thornkin on Thu, 25 April 2019, 21:54:15
How easy is it to utilize the rotary encoder?  For example, if I wanted it to be volume, how much work is that? On Windows.

Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas

Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: upas on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:24:32
How easy is it to utilize the rotary encoder?  For example, if I wanted it to be volume, how much work is that? On Windows.

Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas

It's no work at all.

5 encoder modes will be supported by default:
Volume
Scrolling
Media (Scrubbing and Play/Pause)
Brightness
Backlight

3 custom modes will be easily configurable in VIA.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: upas on Sat, 27 April 2019, 10:55:07
Weight part 2:
https://www.instagram.com/cannon.keys/p/Bww3MSxnYDC/?igshid=qs6ykdcl760l
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: rondg on Sat, 27 April 2019, 11:15:23
Weight part 2:
https://www.instagram.com/cannon.keys/p/Bww3MSxnYDC/?igshid=qs6ykdcl760l

Is it still a limited, FCFS group buy?

EDIT: Oops. Read the first post. That answered my question.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 27 April 2019, 11:35:54
Weight part 2:
https://www.instagram.com/cannon.keys/p/Bww3MSxnYDC/?igshid=qs6ykdcl760l
Ooh, that's looking hot. Let me in already!

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Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: p_blaze on Sat, 27 April 2019, 21:55:48
oof fcfs

The rotary encoder would be super fricking useful for me, and it matches my guitar lmao

fingers crossed i guess for a lot of units and a low price
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: Croktopus on Sat, 27 April 2019, 22:36:00
ok seriously where do i get one of those knobs. or twenty of those knobs.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: gotemall on Sun, 28 April 2019, 09:29:50
@UPAS, I have already purchased 4 boards this year so far, I said I wouldn't get anymore, however I am seriously considering this one.

Will this board be available with the LOW PROFILE "KNOB" similar to the various ones in your original posts like the ones below. If so then this will be a definitive buy for me.

The low profile KNOB along with the circular/rounded top just looks so awesome. I am keeping my fingers crossed that your response will be a yes to this.

(https://i.imgur.com/azQgHbP.png)(https://i.imgur.com/DukXXNK.png)

Or does anyone else know?

Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 28 April 2019, 10:15:09
@UPAS, I have already purchased 4 boards this year so far, I said I wouldn't get anymore, however I am seriously considering this one.

Will this board be available with the LOW PROFILE "KNOB" similar to the various ones in your original posts like the ones below. If so then this will be a definitive buy for me.

The low profile KNOB along with the circular/rounded top just looks so awesome. I am keeping my fingers crossed that your response will be a yes to this.

Or does anyone else know?

Thanks

From my perspective, I don't care terribly if the GB comes with a low profile knob or not. I'd like a lower profile knob too, but that's something that I think would be fairly easily obtained after the GB. I'm sure there will be dozens or even a hundred+ people that will want a lower profile knob and it's not rocket science to have one manufactured.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: upas on Sun, 28 April 2019, 11:12:59
I've always said that I would not hold up the GB for a custom knob.

That said, I think a lot of people are going to be very happy.

The GB thread with GB information has been posted, it's waiting to get approved :)
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: xedith on Sat, 04 May 2019, 23:38:10
Is there going to be a pre-built option or is it just a kit you must put together? Never put together a keyboard kit so it'd be a shame if I destroy such a beautiful keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 05 May 2019, 15:58:13
I've always said that I would not hold up the GB for a custom knob.

That said, I think a lot of people are going to be very happy.

The GB thread with GB information has been posted, it's waiting to get approved :)

 :eek: <3
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: upas on Sun, 05 May 2019, 16:38:25
Is there going to be a pre-built option or is it just a kit you must put together? Never put together a keyboard kit so it'd be a shame if I destroy such a beautiful keyboard.

This will just be a kit - the group buy thread is live and has more information!

Shameless plug - I have a kit called the Practice 60 on my store, CannonKeys.com. You can practice soldering on it, and at the end, you'll have a fully functioning 60% keyboard.
The whole idea is to practice there, so if you mess up, its cheap, but you get soldering practice before working on a $400 custom kit.
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: Cbisquit on Thu, 16 May 2019, 20:55:35
I finally remembered to check back on the site today and the group buy was all sold out, dadgum!  Congrats on the success though! Well-earned for a beauty such as this.

I'm definitely interested in snatching it up from the next batch, if that happens.  Made sure to sign up for updates  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Satisfaction 75 - 75% w/ OLED and Knob (4/25 UPDATE - 5/6 GB START)
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sat, 18 May 2019, 21:10:28
Shameless plug - I have a kit called the Practice 60 on my store, CannonKeys.com. You can practice soldering on it, and at the end, you'll have a fully functioning 60% keyboard.
The whole idea is to practice there, so if you mess up, its cheap, but you get soldering practice before working on a $400 custom kit.
Practice60 is legit. Durable. Not swiss cheese. Get 2 in the kit. Allen Iverson. Cheap! All bases hit.
I recommend soldering, desoldering, then soldering again. Repeat on second board. Then repeat til you're good.
I'm sure the Satisfaction75's PCB will also be robust like all Upas' PCBs, but if you ever have to solder, let's say, on a CA-66/Moon TKL/Canoe/other high end keyboard that looks great but doesn't have as nicely made PCB, being good helps keep you from lifting a pad.