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Offline tuananh_bkk

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #650 on: Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:36:17 »
my kb doesn't get recognized by the computer today (directly connected, no hub).

I couldn't get it to bootloader (holding backspace (at 1x1 on BootMapperClient) while plugging in).

How could i go debugging this?

Offline MxBlue

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #651 on: Sun, 27 January 2019, 20:42:53 »
my kb doesn't get recognized by the computer today (directly connected, no hub).

I couldn't get it to bootloader (holding backspace (at 1x1 on BootMapperClient) while plugging in).

How could i go debugging this?

Have you reflowed/added solder to the MCU? If not, start there. Ensure each pin looks soldered on afterwards with no bridges between pins, flux helps a lot.

Offline tuananh_bkk

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #652 on: Wed, 30 January 2019, 18:56:54 »
Thank you. Lemme try that.

Offline tuananh_bkk

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #653 on: Sat, 16 February 2019, 19:08:06 »
my kb doesn't get recognized by the computer today (directly connected, no hub).

I couldn't get it to bootloader (holding backspace (at 1x1 on BootMapperClient) while plugging in).

How could i go debugging this?

Have you reflowed/added solder to the MCU? If not, start there. Ensure each pin looks soldered on afterwards with no bridges between pins, flux helps a lot.

looks liek the mcu is fried. replacing it fixes it for me.

Offline pandemic123

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #654 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 04:20:43 »
looks like a cheaper GB just came with no MOQ

Online oh_chesteroni

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #655 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 09:35:28 »
How is it that canoes are now being offered for 299? Has the factory changed to one of lesser quality? Has the pcb been fixed? This is significantly lower pricing than either R1 or R2 and no mention of any moq either.

Offline ramblinrose

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #656 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 09:52:27 »
Must be cheaper due to quantities.
If anyone hadn't seen the link:
https://percent.studio/collections/mechanical-keyboard/products/canoe

Offline ninjacore

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #657 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 09:56:32 »
I was surprised when I saw these yesterday. Was tempting as it was my first "dream board", but the colors offered in the store are kinda meh and no split backspace pushed me to other options a while back.

Offline Boy_314

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #658 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 10:41:32 »
no split backspace

Are their layout options laid out somewhere? It's not on the site

Offline kokugatsu

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #659 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 11:01:30 »
Do i really need another canoe? :thinkster:

Offline pandemic123

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #660 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 11:34:37 »
How is it that canoes are now being offered for 299? Has the factory changed to one of lesser quality? Has the pcb been fixed? This is significantly lower pricing than either R1 or R2 and no mention of any moq either.

yea you guys got f***d, shady AF

Offline pixelpusher

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #661 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 12:34:28 »
So, is the siren a blue-gray?  I don't trust renders, so written explanation would be nice :)

I think it's great they are succeeding enough to offer high quantities at a lower cost.  Let's just hope PCBs are good quality.  Did you see that it specifically says it's carved out of "American Made" aluminum?  What?!  Okay... 

Would really like to see some "extra parts" for sale on the site sometime.  Would love to pick up an extra plate and PCB for my MAO version.
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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #662 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 14:53:40 »
How is it that canoes are now being offered for 299? Has the factory changed to one of lesser quality? Has the pcb been fixed? This is significantly lower pricing than either R1 or R2 and no mention of any moq either.

yea you guys got f***d, shady AF

Same kind of crap with their Maze.  They're offering it at the same price as MD, but with free shipping (and no taxes for us who have to pay taxes on MD).  That's F'ed up!

Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #663 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 15:27:02 »
has this happened before with any other GB? I kinda want a canoe but couldn't go for the resell prices. I'm wondering if these are of lower quality than the GB run...

edit: ordered a 'classic' colorway. Siren was the first pick but played it safe lol
« Last Edit: Thu, 21 February 2019, 17:27:38 by Tekniqs »

Offline the_high_5

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #664 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 19:47:57 »
This is pure speculation, but I wonder if the price drop has anything to do with the Fanoes popping up.

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Offline beamingrobot

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #665 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 20:19:12 »
Just to be clear:

1. I'm no longer working with Percent anymore, no biggie I'm just not running any GBs.
2. I had no prior info regarding the website or the sales, and was not notified in any way.
3. I do not have any other info regarding the quality of boards as well.

I'm writing this to answer some common questions I've been getting, please direct all questions to the contact form on their website, thanks!
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Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #666 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 20:57:01 »
well damn. maybe the boards they are offering are lower quality than the original GB run.....

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #667 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 21:01:52 »
well damn. maybe the boards they are offering are lower quality than the original GB run.....

Lower quality?! What could be of a lower quality than broken?  :p

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #668 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 21:05:00 »
OMG what is that TKL keyboard???

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Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #669 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 21:14:01 »
well damn. maybe the boards they are offering are lower quality than the original GB run.....

Lower quality?! What could be of a lower quality than broken?  :p

i'm sure many of the canoe GB participants are/were happy with their purchase........right?

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #670 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 22:15:05 »
well damn. maybe the boards they are offering are lower quality than the original GB run.....

Lower quality?! What could be of a lower quality than broken?  :p

i'm sure many of the canoe GB participants are/were happy with their purchase........right?

Sure, as long as their PCB was fully functional

Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #671 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 22:17:39 »

Sure, as long as their PCB was fully functional

what was the failure rate at? website stock of canoe will have the same pcbs =/

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #672 on: Thu, 21 February 2019, 22:53:30 »

Sure, as long as their PCB was fully functional

what was the failure rate at? website stock of canoe will have the same pcbs =/

Don't know, but it was definitely more than one person.

Offline TheMilkmen

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #673 on: Tue, 26 February 2019, 14:29:07 »
Just a side question, do we have the plate files for this board at all? I would love the option for one of the weirder types of plates like half plates, different materials or whatever else.

Offline BAS1C

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #674 on: Fri, 01 March 2019, 15:43:20 »
my kb doesn't get recognized by the computer today (directly connected, no hub).

I couldn't get it to bootloader (holding backspace (at 1x1 on BootMapperClient) while plugging in).

How could i go debugging this?

Have you reflowed/added solder to the MCU? If not, start there. Ensure each pin looks soldered on afterwards with no bridges between pins, flux helps a lot.

Similar Issues... Mine spent 1 months with intermittent disconnects and having to plug it back in multiple times a day. Finally it's just dead. Flashes LEDs once when I plug it in but nothing...

Thoughts on this being MCU? Or did i fry it with ESD or something?

Offline tchalikias

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #675 on: Sat, 02 March 2019, 19:08:36 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

Offline sroop

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #676 on: Sat, 02 March 2019, 19:14:35 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

Link?

Offline oldcat

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #677 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 11:11:31 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

The one used on fanoe is not compatible with canoe I believe.

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #678 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 13:07:53 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

The one used on fanoe is not compatible with canoe I believe.

Oldcat, will you release the PCBs you've had made for the Canoe?

Offline oldcat

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #679 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 13:35:22 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

The one used on fanoe is not compatible with canoe I believe.

Oldcat, will you release the PCBs you've had made for the Canoe?

Percent boss is quite sensitive to IP issues (as he should be), so I am not really allowed to release anything related to canoe, lets see what he designs next for the community!

And check out my new polycarb 65 board and provide some feedback !

Offline tchalikias

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #680 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 14:57:14 »
FIY , there's Canoe PCBs for sale on Taobao (actually the entire board AFAIK, I'm guessing knock off from the factory used for the original) and they're pretty cheap, if anyone needs a replacement.

Link?

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-15650377400.5.41dada78YCyD5M&id=570827341563

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #681 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 14:59:11 »
Well, hopefully Percent boss knows how common PCB issues were and had taken steps to minimize the issues during this most recent sale of the Canoe

Offline oldcat

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #682 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 15:25:06 »
Well, hopefully Percent boss knows how common PCB issues were and had taken steps to minimize the issues during this most recent sale of the Canoe

I think he is aware. Surprisingly little to no issue reports from the Chinese community. Perhaps the issues are very specific to that R1 Geekhack batch

Offline ninjacore

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #683 on: Sun, 03 March 2019, 17:22:35 »
Well, hopefully Percent boss knows how common PCB issues were and had taken steps to minimize the issues during this most recent sale of the Canoe

I think he is aware. Surprisingly little to no issue reports from the Chinese community. Perhaps the issues are very specific to that R1 Geekhack batch

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #684 on: Mon, 11 March 2019, 20:39:57 »
For whatever it's worth, I asked about the PCB before I bought one on their website. I think they understood what I was asking.  :confused:

Was just checking this thread to see if there were any updates about their website.

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Has the pcb for the canoe been updated to fix reliability issues?




Offline Poblopuablo

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #685 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:15:38 »
Bought one on the percent.studio page a while back and it said it would ship by April 15th. I havent received any information about it shipping However. :/

Offline derznation

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #686 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:19:03 »
Bought one on the percent.studio page a while back and it said it would ship by April 15th. I havent received any information about it shipping However. :/

Same, though I wasn't particularly optimistic about that timeline being hit. Anyone have more info?

Offline toan

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« Reply #687 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:32:36 »
Bought one on the percent.studio page a while back and it said it would ship by April 15th. I havent received any information about it shipping However. :/

Same, no updates since the day I purchased. I tried to use the contact form on their website but haven't received any response.

Offline Poblopuablo

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #688 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 15:36:28 »
Bought one on the percent.studio page a while back and it said it would ship by April 15th. I havent received any information about it shipping However. :/

Same, no updates since the day I purchased. I tried to use the contact form on their website but haven't received any response.

Yeah I asked them a question and no response either. :/

Offline oldcat

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #689 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 16:32:25 »
Bought one on the percent.studio page a while back and it said it would ship by April 15th. I havent received any information about it shipping However. :/

Same, though I wasn't particularly optimistic about that timeline being hit. Anyone have more info?

Last I heard it will be slightly delayed. I will relay some information from the china group if I heard any

Offline sroop

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Re: [GB] Canoe by Percent Studios - R1 + R2 Fin.
« Reply #690 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 20:33:05 »
Update;


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