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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #500 on: Mon, 17 November 2014, 14:47:08 »
What do you think a Machine Green Topre Clack would go for?  I've only ever seen this in the 4Grabs thread - are there even many out there?

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I traded another rare green(Pea Soup) for machine(in MX,) confirmed there does not seem to be many of them. One of the rarer solid colors I think.
From the trade offers I got it seems P1 Purple(4 offers) is more common than Yolk Yellow(2 offers) is more common than Machine Green(1 offer) based solely off of 10 trade offers.

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #502 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 12:19:21 »
I have a topre candy corn skull from the recent EK sale, i'm looking for two mx single color as a trade, does that sound reasonable? I'm thinking one of them being an F2 would still be fair.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #503 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 12:50:22 »
I have a topre candy corn skull from the recent EK sale, i'm looking for two mx single color as a trade, does that sound reasonable? I'm thinking one of them being an F2 would still be fair.

I don't think that's reasonable. Someone may not agree with me, but even if F2's are considered cheap and common, you can hardly find them under $100. Candy corn looks great on its own, but it doesn't go well with anything. A reasonable price for Candy Corn is ~$200 and that is about the same price for two single color. I would much rather keep two single color clacks that could go well with other keysets than getting a Candy Corn. Of course whether it's a reasonable trade depends on individual interest, but if you can't find the trade you want, this is probably why.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #504 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 14:18:35 »
I have a topre candy corn skull from the recent EK sale, i'm looking for two mx single color as a trade, does that sound reasonable? I'm thinking one of them being an F2 would still be fair.

I don't think that's reasonable. Someone may not agree with me, but even if F2's are considered cheap and common, you can hardly find them under $100. Candy corn looks great on its own, but it doesn't go well with anything. A reasonable price for Candy Corn is ~$200 and that is about the same price for two single color. I would much rather keep two single color clacks that could go well with other keysets than getting a Candy Corn. Of course whether it's a reasonable trade depends on individual interest, but if you can't find the trade you want, this is probably why.

IMO, dollar-wise it seems fair (at least if considering F2s - it gets lopsided if you consider rare single colours), but I'd agree with you that it may be a tough trade to work out.  I'd probably prefer to keep the two single colours myself.  I think this is basically what you were saying, but just worded slightly different.  :P

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #505 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 18:15:18 »
I understand what you guys are saying. Dollar-wise it's pretty "fair" but that doesn't mean anyone would actually go for it.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #506 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 18:45:52 »
How much are Cherry MX Julysicles?

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« Reply #507 on: Wed, 19 November 2014, 18:51:55 »
How much are Cherry MX Julysicles?

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #508 on: Thu, 20 November 2014, 22:14:58 »
How much are Cherry MX Julysicles?
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #509 on: Thu, 20 November 2014, 23:26:22 »
around $150 is a normal price for a julysicle
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #510 on: Thu, 20 November 2014, 23:37:45 »
From the trade offers I got it seems P1 Purple(4 offers) is more common than Yolk Yellow(2 offers) is more common than Machine Green(1 offer) based solely off of 10 trade offers.

Man no one ever messages me for trades, how do you do it?!?!
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #511 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 13:40:07 »
How much are Cherry MX Julysicles?

skulls or blanks?

Blanks, sorry. Dang, $150.... It's hard finding people who sell them to begin with.

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #512 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 13:41:14 »
How much are Cherry MX Julysicles?

skulls or blanks?

Blanks, sorry. Dang, $150.... It's hard finding people who sell them to begin with.

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #513 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 16:12:54 »
How much IS freedom eagle valued at? Or is there really no price?
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #514 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 16:42:56 »
How much IS freedom eagle valued at? Or is there really no price?

I don't think any have been resold yet. I actually expect it to go for only slightly above MSRP since they were already expensive and there didn't seem to be a huge demand for the design (even though it's badass.)

I would guess around $200, but who knows? Not enough data yet.

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #515 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 17:12:15 »
How much IS freedom eagle valued at? Or is there really no price?

I don't think any have been resold yet. I actually expect it to go for only slightly above MSRP since they were already expensive and there didn't seem to be a huge demand for the design (even though it's badass.)

I would guess around $200, but who knows? Not enough data yet.
What I have seen they go for much higher but as you said there haven't been much business with the freedom eagles. I would think they go around 250-300

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #516 on: Sat, 22 November 2014, 18:16:20 »
How much IS freedom eagle valued at? Or is there really no price?

I don't think any have been resold yet. I actually expect it to go for only slightly above MSRP since they were already expensive and there didn't seem to be a huge demand for the design (even though it's badass.)

I would guess around $200, but who knows? Not enough data yet.
What I have seen they go for much higher but as you said there haven't been much business with the freedom eagles. I would think they go around 250-300

That was one asshat on Reddit. I wouldn't put too much stock in that sale, considering he's probably going to wind up in CC's blacklist since he openly admitted he cheated the system. They might go for $300+, but I wouldn't base current speculation off of that.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #517 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 04:22:21 »
How much IS freedom eagle valued at? Or is there really no price?

I don't think any have been resold yet. I actually expect it to go for only slightly above MSRP since they were already expensive and there didn't seem to be a huge demand for the design (even though it's badass.)

I would guess around $200, but who knows? Not enough data yet.
What I have seen they go for much higher but as you said there haven't been much business with the freedom eagles. I would think they go around 250-300

That was one asshat on Reddit. I wouldn't put too much stock in that sale, considering he's probably going to wind up in CC's blacklist since he openly admitted he cheated the system. They might go for $300+, but I wouldn't base current speculation off of that.
are you talking about the bluetrabe?

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #518 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 06:42:46 »
No they are not. They are talking of Freedom Eagle.
 

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« Reply #519 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 06:44:53 »
No they are not. They are talking of Freedom Eagle.
I know but the last statement seemed to be directed to the bluetrabe. Since one guy at reddit supposedly "hacked" the system and got a bluetrabe. Haven't heard of anybody "hacking" a regular cc sale

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« Reply #520 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 07:17:45 »
No they are not. They are talking of Freedom Eagle.
I know but the last statement seemed to be directed to the bluetrabe. Since one guy at reddit supposedly "hacked" the system and got a bluetrabe. Haven't heard of anybody "hacking" a regular cc sale


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« Reply #521 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 07:50:18 »
No they are not. They are talking of Freedom Eagle.
I know but the last statement seemed to be directed to the bluetrabe. Since one guy at reddit supposedly "hacked" the system and got a bluetrabe. Haven't heard of anybody "hacking" a regular cc sale

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« Reply #522 on: Sun, 23 November 2014, 07:51:22 »
$200 would be way, way too low based on the limited nature of the Freedom Eagle, and the cost at retail versus others, including the Bluetrabe. I highly doubt anyone would ever part with a Freedom Eagle for less than $500 cash, but that is just speculation on my part.

Based on the fact that the Freedom Eagle was four times the cost of the Bluetrabe at retail, and the fact that the reddit asshat claims to have received an offer of $350 for the Bluetrabe, I joked before that the true aftermarket value of the Freedom Eagle by extrapolation therefore would be $1400. :)
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #523 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 10:22:07 »
how would someone cheat the EK sale? make as much fake entries as possible?

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« Reply #524 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 10:46:12 »

how would someone cheat the EK sale? make as much fake entries as possible?

Yes. Someone went into more detail about it a few pages back.

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #526 on: Wed, 26 November 2014, 15:40:01 »
How much is a T Skullsicle worth?
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« Reply #527 on: Thu, 27 November 2014, 03:44:50 »
How much is a T Skullsicle worth?
around 250 I would guess

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« Reply #528 on: Sun, 30 November 2014, 05:47:30 »
Price for this skull? And how hard is it to find?

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #529 on: Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:37:24 »
I've got a 3d topre clack and a HO MX clack.  I'm extremely interested in trading for some Killedbykaps(those mummies are amazing).  Not too sure of the trade values of clacks vs kbks though. Are these generally a 1>1 trade clack>kbk?
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« Reply #530 on: Sun, 30 November 2014, 20:40:09 »
I've got a 3d topre clack and a HO MX clack.  I'm extremely interested in trading for some Killedbykaps(those mummies are amazing).  Not too sure of the trade values of clacks vs kbks though. Are these generally a 1>1 trade clack>kbk?
I sure wouldn't think so. But with hipster MIA maybe his caps have skyrocketed in value.

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« Reply #531 on: Sun, 30 November 2014, 21:30:25 »
I sure wouldn't think so. But with hipster MIA maybe his caps have skyrocketed in value.

The Mummy II is one of my absolute favorite keys and the prospect of never being able to get more makes me that much more possessive of the few I managed to get ahold of. I think HP going missing means more people are going to want to keep the KBKs they've got which will end up driving their trade value up.

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« Reply #532 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:53:58 »
Price for this skull? And how hard is it to find?
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It is very hard to find, I managed to get the one you see there & consider myself lucky. It's one of my favorite solid/single color Skulls color wise. The Dark Teal is a real beauty  :cool: - However I've not seen another in my collecting before or after I acquired it. It's definitely very rare for a solid color CC skull, if anyone else currently has the Dark Teal as well as me I'd be interested to hear of it's "brother"  Clacks.  ;)

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« Reply #533 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 18:44:04 »
Price for this skull? And how hard is it to find?
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It is very hard to find, I managed to get the one you see there & consider myself lucky. It's one of my favorite solid/single color Skulls color wise. The Dark Teal is a real beauty  :cool: - However I've not seen another in my collecting before or after I acquired it. It's definitely very rare for a solid color CC skull, if anyone else currently has the Dark Teal as well as me I'd be interested to hear of it's "brother"  Clacks.  ;)

So, how much are you selling it for then?  :p

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« Reply #534 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 20:23:10 »
Price for this skull? And how hard is it to find?
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Price? About the same as other rare solid colors - $200-250
Any more than that you're getting raped.

But you will never get one. Mark my words. Most of the folks who had that color are gone forever from GH, and the people who do won't trade them for any less than an unfair trade (someone wanted my OG Tri for a Turquoise. Riiiight.)

Also - Topre only, so it's inherently inferior.
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« Reply #535 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 21:41:33 »

Also - Topre only, so it's inherently inferior.
I can feel many jimmies are rustled by this statement.
 

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« Reply #536 on: Fri, 05 December 2014, 19:10:20 »
I have a Hack Orange Topre and I am wondering what it is worth and if anybody would be willing to trade a mint green something for it!

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« Reply #537 on: Fri, 05 December 2014, 20:17:56 »
I have a Hack Orange Topre and I am wondering what it is worth and if anybody would be willing to trade a mint green something for it!
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$80-120

Mint Gum is a viable 1:1 trade for a HO in terms of price/rarity, although MG is generally a more desirable color.

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« Reply #538 on: Fri, 05 December 2014, 23:49:35 »
I have a Hack Orange Topre and I am wondering what it is worth and if anybody would be willing to trade a mint green something for it!
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$80-120

Mint Gum is a viable 1:1 trade for a HO in terms of price/rarity, although MG is generally a more desirable color.

Thank you for your reply! I am happy it can be a 1:1 trade, which I would be ecstatic about after getting the Leopold FC660 in mint green. <SNIP>

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« Reply #539 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 08:50:09 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...

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« Reply #540 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 09:39:35 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.

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« Reply #541 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 10:18:34 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

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« Reply #542 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 10:19:25 »

how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)
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« Reply #543 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 11:12:53 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

Agreed.

I say the Checkeys are worth what I sold mine for. ;)

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« Reply #544 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 11:36:40 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.

Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.

I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.

Just my 2pence.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #545 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 13:33:07 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.

Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.

I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.

Just my 2pence.
Now the thread may resume.
There are 3 sorts of people at GH, the ones that have been here for a while and don't want you to make a profit from clacks (probably won all their ccs at sales). The newer ones that desperately wants a clack so they go crazy for one on classifieds begging for a clack at all costs and the ones that wins a clack at the raffle just to flip it and make money.

I think a good standing point should be:
Don't sell a clack for a higher price than you bought it for.

It isn't really believable that someone buys a clack for 200$ that he should resell it for 50$ but if  you win at a clack sale and you sell it for 200$, you are a douche.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #546 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 13:45:02 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.

Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.

I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.

Just my 2pence.
Now the thread may resume.
There are 3 sorts of people at GH, the ones that have been here for a while and don't want you to make a profit from clacks (probably won all their ccs at sales). The newer ones that desperately wants a clack so they go crazy for one on classifieds begging for a clack at all costs and the ones that wins a clack at the raffle just to flip it and make money.

I think a good standing point should be:
Don't sell a clack for a higher price than you bought it for.

It isn't really believable that someone buys a clack for 200$ that he should resell it for 50$ but if  you win at a clack sale and you sell it for 200$, you are a douche.
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Not to mention that while the "best" price for a clack is retail price, the truth is that they are frequently sold for much higher prices.  That's what this thread is really for, is to inform people as to what is fair for aftermarket prices (regardless of how much we might want them to all be sold at retail).  Since various clacks sell for wide ranges of prices, it's valuable information to have.

IMO, the remarks of "sell it for retail" and such are still somewhat valuable as a reminder that that's kind of the ideal state that most of us would like to see.  It's not going to happen overnight, if at all, but it's what a lot of us would like to see.

^^ Above is my personal opinion ^^

As for this thread existing, it exists because the price check and simple questions threads were getting overrun with questions about clacks and caused a lot of drama over pricing and the like, so it was warranted that a dedicated topic should exist.  The moderation team is not interested in regulating the discussion of this topic so much as we are interested in keeping discussions civil and organized.  This is much easier to do with a dedicated thread to keep the other threads on topic.  Despite this thread still being fairly controversial at times, it is contained here so if you want to avoid the drama it's quite easy, and that was part of the goal.

Hope that makes sense.   :)

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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #547 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 14:06:14 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.

Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.

I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.

Just my 2pence.
Now the thread may resume.
There are 3 sorts of people at GH, the ones that have been here for a while and don't want you to make a profit from clacks (probably won all their ccs at sales). The newer ones that desperately wants a clack so they go crazy for one on classifieds begging for a clack at all costs and the ones that wins a clack at the raffle just to flip it and make money.

I think a good standing point should be:
Don't sell a clack for a higher price than you bought it for.

It isn't really believable that someone buys a clack for 200$ that he should resell it for 50$ but if  you win at a clack sale and you sell it for 200$, you are a douche.
'

Not to mention that while the "best" price for a clack is retail price, the truth is that they are frequently sold for much higher prices.  That's what this thread is really for, is to inform people as to what is fair for aftermarket prices (regardless of how much we might want them to all be sold at retail).  Since various clacks sell for wide ranges of prices, it's valuable information to have.

IMO, the remarks of "sell it for retail" and such are still somewhat valuable as a reminder that that's kind of the ideal state that most of us would like to see.  It's not going to happen overnight, if at all, but it's what a lot of us would like to see.

^^ Above is my personal opinion ^^

As for this thread existing, it exists because the price check and simple questions threads were getting overrun with questions about clacks and caused a lot of drama over pricing and the like, so it was warranted that a dedicated topic should exist.  The moderation team is not interested in regulating the discussion of this topic so much as we are interested in keeping discussions civil and organized.  This is much easier to do with a dedicated thread to keep the other threads on topic.  Despite this thread still being fairly controversial at times, it is contained here so if you want to avoid the drama it's quite easy, and that was part of the goal.

Hope that makes sense.   :)

Yea, totally makes sense. That is the only logical reason I could think for the thread still being alive, the number of posts that would follow "is this worth x"

The thing is. If the thread didn't exist and any posts that were to arise were simply replied with an obligatory "x is worth retail" it would eventually drill the general rule that if someone is trying to sell something for more than retail then "no it is not worth it." Additionally, if they're really concerned about the price are they really going to turn to the seller and say "this thread said its not worth that" and then the seller will change his mind? No. And lastly, as you said, those guys that will just buy it anyway? Doubtful they're using this thread.

I just think it would be better for the future of the community, especially with the rise is newcomers, That this kind of thread and information wasn't so readily available and in such an encouraging matter.

I don't know, its an interesting situation. The only thing we can do is set a better example - and this thread doesn't do that.

In all honesty. I've never actually witnessed a situation where someone has blatantly flipped a clack and therefore have never seen this thread have such a negative effect. It was just something I was interested to discuss.

As you said, this thread was deemed necessary as some point and doesn't require too much upkeep but it certainly seems like a catalyst for some people's opinions and sometimes contradictory with it being used.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #548 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 16:17:06 »
we've tried what you're suggesting.

absolutely no change in clack prices.
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Re: Clack Valuation Thread
« Reply #549 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 16:26:04 »
how much are the silver checkkeys worth? I have not seen any sold except one so far...
Those were likely overpriced.
Every click clack above retail is overpriced  ;)

This is what I don't understand about this thread. It ultimately promotes the inflation of prices anyway. Even if it's strictly used for helping noobs not get ripped off it's still advising them that something's worth more than it should. Even if its sentimental value - it still shouldn't have an increased price.

Personally I think this thread would be better not existing at all. Unless there were threads that would pop up constantly? And that's why it was made? Maybe they should be blocked too. Imo it would make for a better situation.

I know it's a tough subject because of all of the implications and factors towards the product but, really, just the existence of this thread goes against what I'm sure most vets believe regarding the inflation, flipping and selling of clacks.

Just my 2pence.
Now the thread may resume.
There are 3 sorts of people at GH, the ones that have been here for a while and don't want you to make a profit from clacks (probably won all their ccs at sales). The newer ones that desperately wants a clack so they go crazy for one on classifieds begging for a clack at all costs and the ones that wins a clack at the raffle just to flip it and make money.

I think a good standing point should be:
Don't sell a clack for a higher price than you bought it for.

It isn't really believable that someone buys a clack for 200$ that he should resell it for 50$ but if  you win at a clack sale and you sell it for 200$, you are a douche.
'

Not to mention that while the "best" price for a clack is retail price, the truth is that they are frequently sold for much higher prices.  That's what this thread is really for, is to inform people as to what is fair for aftermarket prices (regardless of how much we might want them to all be sold at retail).  Since various clacks sell for wide ranges of prices, it's valuable information to have.

IMO, the remarks of "sell it for retail" and such are still somewhat valuable as a reminder that that's kind of the ideal state that most of us would like to see.  It's not going to happen overnight, if at all, but it's what a lot of us would like to see.

^^ Above is my personal opinion ^^

As for this thread existing, it exists because the price check and simple questions threads were getting overrun with questions about clacks and caused a lot of drama over pricing and the like, so it was warranted that a dedicated topic should exist.  The moderation team is not interested in regulating the discussion of this topic so much as we are interested in keeping discussions civil and organized.  This is much easier to do with a dedicated thread to keep the other threads on topic.  Despite this thread still being fairly controversial at times, it is contained here so if you want to avoid the drama it's quite easy, and that was part of the goal.

Hope that makes sense.   :)

Yea, totally makes sense. That is the only logical reason I could think for the thread still being alive, the number of posts that would follow "is this worth x"

The thing is. If the thread didn't exist and any posts that were to arise were simply replied with an obligatory "x is worth retail" it would eventually drill the general rule that if someone is trying to sell something for more than retail then "no it is not worth it." Additionally, if they're really concerned about the price are they really going to turn to the seller and say "this thread said its not worth that" and then the seller will change his mind? No. And lastly, as you said, those guys that will just buy it anyway? Doubtful they're using this thread.

I just think it would be better for the future of the community, especially with the rise is newcomers, That this kind of thread and information wasn't so readily available and in such an encouraging matter.

I don't know, its an interesting situation. The only thing we can do is set a better example - and this thread doesn't do that.

In all honesty. I've never actually witnessed a situation where someone has blatantly flipped a clack and therefore have never seen this thread have such a negative effect. It was just something I was interested to discuss.

As you said, this thread was deemed necessary as some point and doesn't require too much upkeep but it certainly seems like a catalyst for some people's opinions and sometimes contradictory with it being used.
The biggest problem is imo that some people have so much money that they can make an unresisitible offer, I know of a bluetrabe which sold for 400$ not too long ago which is almost 700% profit from ori price.