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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:22:41 »
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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:39:01 »
Here is a concept for the new and improved face of Geekhack!
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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 01:03:15 »
I thought it was some kind of special group buy or something and clicked only to be disappointed.

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 01:13:20 »
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:35:17 »
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.

I like it where it is - I'd rather hit that than logout when my fat thumbs miss on mobile :))
                               
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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:37:38 »
Can we atleast move it somewhere else? more specifically away from the Spy.

I like it where it is - I'd rather hit that than logout when my fat thumbs miss on mobile :))

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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:47:05 »
Looks good to me. :D

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 02:47:57 »
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 03:41:37 »
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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:01:53 »
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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:13:23 »
when i woke up this morning, i was like omg omg omg new button, then i clicked it....

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:40:09 »
How about get rid of the ****ing >>>>>>>>><<<<<< its not going to make me click it anymore than usual

Just say GH Store (but its not really) or something like that, not ****ing DEALS. it looks fake as ****, in fact when clicked upon that place looks sketchy

New idea: Reword to Ad Deals and place it right next to IRC or Donate-- ya know the other links people don't use either ayylmao

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:50:25 »
I'm with bee on this. That >>> <<<< is distracting and just screams click me!

Oh, maybe that's the whole point.
 

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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:51:07 »
Pay 5$ to have it removed? :thumb:

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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:54:33 »
I'm with bee on this. That >>> <<<< is distracting and just screams click me!

Oh, maybe that's the whole point.

that's exactly why ><  are there, except in this case its having the opposite effect. It literally looks like an AD link, why the **** would anyone click it?

but we are stupid af so who cares what the peasants think

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 06:55:52 »
Pay 5$ to have it removed? :thumb:

Give me your 5$ and then ignore it.   :))

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:11:36 »
Imagine if you had sat down at some point and actually had proper ways people can support this forum, instead of telling people to **** off for years and then rushing to put together this half arsed garbage with worthless subscriptions no one wants?

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:15:54 »
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:27:07 »
If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.
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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:36:42 »
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:37:48 »
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:42:55 »
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

I can at least block those.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 08:40:20 »
I don't know why everyone is complaining about this its been well documented that GH requires money to run, this is a way for them to get that money.

Although I did legitimately have to ask someone if it wasn't just me seeing the link as I thought it was malware or some stuff

lmao no one is saying GH needing money is a bad thing. the way it's being done is pretty atrocious and frankly, I think it ruins that navigational bar because its hideous and >>STUPID<<.
Better than banner ads though

I can at least block those.
Another forum I frequent is asking the members not to block ads because they are not paid when ads are not served. It'd be back to square one.
 

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:21:56 »
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.
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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:31:33 »
This is not gonna work, after a while no one will ever click on it.
You'll need pop up ads at some point, which I prefer.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:43:38 »
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.

+1 to all of this.  I was well aware that funding was an issue, as most people stopped donating soon after the last fundraising push, but this button is news to me.  There must be a better/cleaner way.  And as annoying as it is, maybe we just need to have the fund requirements in everyone's face (notices from geekhack, not ads) to prompt people to pay.  Out of site out of mind, I'm sure everyone simply forgot about it.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 09:54:54 »
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.

If it works the way i think it works, I would purchase all my amazon purchases through a geekhack link. even if thats in addition to the >>>Deals<<<

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:14:12 »
Same, I'd totally do the Amazon referral thing if it was available.
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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:21:15 »
As much as I respect iMav as the master of this domain, I personally think he made an error in judgement when implementing this. There are much more effective ways of asking for funding. This is a forum, he could have at least asked for public opinion first and then built a solution based on suggestions.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:22:53 »
rip. Time to make my own geekhack clone

It's been tried numerous times.  Knock yourself out.

If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.

Please use the "Donate" link to support us financially!

This is not gonna work, after a while no one will ever click on it.
You'll need pop up ads at some point, which I prefer.

There is a plan to add some ads to the footer of the site.  However, I have cringed at every iteration so far...so it is on hold.


I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. 
If it works the way i think it works, I would purchase all my amazon purchases through a geekhack link. even if thats in addition to the >>>Deals<<<

We actually DO currently participate in an affiliate program.  If you click an Amazon link (or eBay, or many others) from GH, we will get some kick back if you make a purchase.

Geekhack is halfway through its NINETH year of operation.  We have gone through a lot of crap to stay around.  While I may not be as involved in the day-to-day community as I once was, I am just as intimately involved in the backend as I always way (and my wallet funds the majority of the infrastructure to this day).  I very much appreciate the monthly donations that dedicated GHers contribute.  I also appreciate those that contribute a percentage of group buy sales (it's the exception, not the rule...but I am always very happy to see when folks realize that GH does require funding.)

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:23:12 »
Same, I'd totally do the Amazon referral thing if it was available.

I order stuff from Amazon for the office I work at pretty frequently, I would definitely run it through GH if possible.
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« Reply #81 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:25:09 »


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« Reply #82 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:30:43 »
So my understanding is that if I click a link that user Waateva posts linking to amazon, purchase an item, geekhack gets kickback.

Is this the case?

Is it possible to have a simple Amazon link on the Geekhack landing page, and that can be my portal to amazon.

I dont always want to buy the **** you bubs are posting. But I certainly buy a bunch of crap.


Also, can this thread be renamed to "what is this bologna"?
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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:54:36 »
Give me a paid sub forum at the least.
It would be like my quiet place where people don't want to be banned and lose money.
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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:27:18 »
As someone who has been paying monthly since the server moved, I'm disappointed. Both in who is or isn't donating and this sudden change.

I would much rather see an Amazon sponsorship like appleonama suggested. And it would be great to see more advertising that geekhack needs money to keep going. Deskthority had a good approach with the club, I like the idea of paid vendor forums, and the sponsored buying stuff isn't bad. It's the execution in this case. I don't like this deals tab because it seems really chincy and weak. The stuff being sold in there seems analogous to snake oil vendors. Plus the huge >><<< is annoying.

Doing a driveby and just throwing the tab in really sucks because we don't have any say in this community we're in and some of us have been paying. Plus I've heard that not all the stuff that was sold in the previous fund drive thread were actually sent out. It's hard to get people to give money if you promised to give them stickers which never showed up.


+1 to all of this.  I was well aware that funding was an issue, as most people stopped donating soon after the last fundraising push, but this button is news to me.  There must be a better/cleaner way.  And as annoying as it is, maybe we just need to have the fund requirements in everyone's face (notices from geekhack, not ads) to prompt people to pay.  Out of site out of mind, I'm sure everyone simply forgot about it.

Absolutely agree with CPT. For starters, charging vendors monthly and having a paid club like DT both sound like fine ideas. Still I'm not even sure how the paid forum would work here, the main part of the DT club is that you also have voting rights in forum direction, which i don't see happening here. But I do agree that people donating monthly should see some form of return from it, which also encourages them to keep on donating each month.

I mean, the whole >>DEALS<< tab and everything inside of it, on a site full of computer nerds, is rather...silly. I can't possibly imagine that being much of a source of income at all.

And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.
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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:31:05 »
And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.

^^ This. I totally get some things need to be kept private but a little transparency goes a long way.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:39:08 »
A GeekHack store could also be started with official GH merch, also like DT has.

GH branded Mugs, and mouse pads, and shirts could be sold....

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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:41:01 »
It stood out like a sore thumb
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« Reply #88 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:52:59 »
And yeah, most of us have no idea how much it cost a month. If we all knew and it was out in the open that would definitely encourage people to give more i think.

This is what iMav posted about this before. I believe there's some costs missing though.
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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:55:59 »
I'm going to kil myself

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:57:58 »
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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:00:48 »
Jaffers is drunk and raging on the geekhack slack  :(

someone give the guy a hug.
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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:02:44 »
I see the Amazon referral thing being brought up. Just curious what's the number for doing the affiliate program through Amazon?

 Let's say someone used the referral and bought a keyboard for $129.00.

How much of that goes back into GH? Anyone have a link to the actual formula/numbers?

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:06:44 »
iMav where is the transparency?

How much money do you need to run this thing?

Pretty sure if you need at least $5 from every dedicated member you could run this web**** without the half assed advertisement. Just go full out header ad or don't do **** at all.

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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:10:35 »
If they asked me for money to keep GH going I would gladly help out.

Please use the "Donate" link to support us financially!
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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #96 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:18:08 »
A GeekHack store could also be started with official GH merch, also like DT has.

GH branded Mugs, and mouse pads, and shirts could be sold....
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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #97 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:21:16 »
I mean, the whole >>DEALS<< tab and everything inside of it, on a site full of computer nerds, is rather...silly. I can't possibly imagine that being much of a source of income at all.

As an FYI, the link has been active for only a few hours...and has already netted over $20.  You underestimate the breath of folks that visit GH on a regular basis. 

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:58:28 »
I think there are far more things you could do that shows you care about the community, rather than a bunch of stuff people could most likely care less about. These aren't incredible 'deals', really.

Showing you care about (and are in touch with) the community means doing something that speaks to their interests more, such as;

1. Running 'GEEK HA CK' SP key packs again
2. Geekhack-related/themed stuff (keyboard sleeves, wrist rests, keycap pullers, etc)
3. Put together a keyboard + gh themed extras, on a monthly basis

I am just throwing a few ideas out there - but the bottom line is, this 'deals' clickbait is a rather thoughtless way of asking for money from the community. If you know this community, you know they
keep money for things that pertain to their hobby - keycap sets, keyboards, etc.

And in all honesty, the community should be run by people who are in-touch with and passionate about the community they are a part of.

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Re: WHAT IS THIS BULL****
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 02 June 2016, 13:05:47 »
Perhaps people that donate can have an option for it not to show.  Though it does seem fairly unobtrusive. 

And I do have to say that the donating bit is pretty hidden.  I'd donate- and see it as a responsibility to help out the sites that you visit regularly, and rather that it's an ask rather than a requirement.  But when you don't really advertise it anywhere, it's difficult at the least to even know how to contribute.

As to the other ideas, it would seem to take the onus off of a few people if everyone would contribute to making them happen.  Unlike a button at the top, any other ideas take time and effort, and putting that on few people seems to be an imposition, no matter how much they might be passionate about the community.

I've seen it recently with MrBishop and Evangs- as far as organizing a build and GB or auction to benefit the community.  You can't just say words or toss around ideas- you have to put action to them, IMO, and be the change that you want to see.