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Offline Simen

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[IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (GB starts on Oct. 5th)
« on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 12:40:03 »






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Hi Geekhackers. This is INETT STUDIO. We are a relatively new keyboard design studio founded in March 2018. The QQ group id (if you know what it is) is 528509432. This is my second IC after Triangle 103. The Triangle 103 GB, unfortunately, only happened in China due to the 2 months limit of new accounts on GH. Here are some photos from the Chinese GB if you are interested. Now we bring our newest design to you.







Cross 70%
Cross 70% is a board features with a special semi-embedded top&bottom structure and a unique 70% layout. With different color combinations, the semi-embedded structure can offer numerous possibilities from the top and side views. On the top right corner is a nameplate similar to Triangle 103. I really appreciate Pakay and JJ 's help.

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Army green color



Yellow color







Oreo color




Two-piece bottom weights with convex engraving

Features

  • 6063 aluminum case
  • Anodizing or brass weight (PVD tbd)
  • 3 degrees
  • PCB: QMK, Type C
  • Estimated price: $290
  • Layout:

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Renders







Thank YORK.C for the beautiful rendering with SA-2600.




Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks you!



Please fill in the interest check form here

New Renders for Ver. B








USB C is confirmed.

QMK PCB is confirmed.
« Last Edit: Thu, 04 October 2018, 11:30:19 by Simen »

Offline cijanzen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 13:10:24 »
Maybe it’s too late now but the 6 key cluster offset from the top rows really bothers me. Also, with tall keycaps you’d have a harder time seeing the indicator led bar.

I’d prefer to see cluster aligned with first and second row with the indicator strip underneath that. Would be more aesthetically pleasing and also easier to see the led bar.

Other than that I really like the design!

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 14:34:31 »
I agree. The vertical offset for the navigation cluster is off-putting.

Interesting idea though. I was waiting to see if anybody would do something like this layout!

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 14:35:28 »
This is pretty great for us TKL folks. The color combos are super interesting. I am in.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 14:42:18 »
Imho

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Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 15:23:11 »
I agree. The vertical offset for the navigation cluster is off-putting.

Interesting idea though. I was waiting to see if anybody would do something like this layout!

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Maybe it’s too late now but the 6 key cluster offset from the top rows really bothers me. Also, with tall keycaps you’d have a harder time seeing the indicator led bar.

I’d prefer to see cluster aligned with first and second row with the indicator strip underneath that. Would be more aesthetically pleasing and also easier to see the led bar.

Other than that I really like the design!

Imho

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Thanks for the feedback. The offset of the 6 keys cluster was designed to be in this way intentionally. It's for my subtle aesthetics. Now I see maybe it's not for everyone.

Let's see if the offset bothers more people or not. I'll change it if most people don't like it. Please leave your comments here whether you like it or not. The decisions will be made according to your voices.

Offline bball2

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 15:26:08 »
@KaosJ, great suggestion!

Offline cijanzen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 15:29:29 »
Imho

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That could work better for alignment but then you still have the issue of led strip visibility problem with taller keycaps.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 17:41:51 »
I like the offset of the original design. It makes it more visually interesting to me.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 19:17:14 »
WKL?

Offline Peiweisgreat

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 20:33:36 »
I'm all for this board getting made, but would love to see a wkl rather than an hhkb style.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 21:38:28 »
I think the offset is interesting and unique (or at least very rare), and I'd go further and say from an aesthetic perspective you could have the same offset underneath the arrows too. Don't stone me!

That said, *if* you can't see the full LED strip from a normal sitting position without having to crane your neck one way or t'other, then any aesthetics are irrelevant - form over function in my book - and put the LED between the arrows and the 6-cluster as others have said.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 21:55:11 »
WKL?

I'm all for this board getting made, but would love to see a wkl rather than an hhkb style.

WKL is a go if there are interests :)

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 21:56:00 »
I'd go further and say from an aesthetic perspective you could have the same offset underneath the arrows too. Don't stone me!

Good point  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 00:24:30 »
I like the offset in the original design. Its unique and would look great with the LED strip. If he moved it to the stock location, then its just a short-profiled TKL. I say innovate if you want to...

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 01:11:21 »
I'd go further and say from an aesthetic perspective you could have the same offset underneath the arrows too. Don't stone me!

Good point  :thumb:

+1 Offsets for both editing and arrows clusters would be nice.  If you add macro cluster (offset) far left, that would be my dream layout.  3x4 will supplment 12 functions keys, or it can be other functions of course.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 03:36:04 »
I think this design can quickly locate the backspace key, I like it very much :thumb:

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 06:02:10 »
Shut up and take my money  :-* :-* :-*

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 11:26:28 »
I   like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70%
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 13:11:40 »
I think this design can quickly locate the backspace key, I like it very much :thumb:

Thanks my friend!

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 13:14:24 »




Here are the renders of another style top case .

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Offline cijanzen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 16:15:50 »
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Here are the renders of another style top case .

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This, to me, works and looks much better!

Offline catamscott

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 16:23:50 »
i actually think the slight offset looks good, but if it did get brought down i wouldn't really mind. would really prefer WKL though  :thumb: otherwise i think this is a really sharp looking tkl

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 18:28:26 »
Looking noice. Overall low profile is sick. +1

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 23:42:57 »
Very interested, that is one unique board. Voted in for LED indicators above arrow keys.

Will this PCB use bootmapper as well?

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 08:55:32 »
will the pcb support in switch leds?

Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:04:44 »
Very interested, that is one unique board. Voted in for LED indicators above arrow keys.

Will this PCB use bootmapper as well?

Yes.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:05:38 »
will the pcb support in switch leds?

Yes

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 30 August 2018, 02:44:38 »
hope the HHKB layout can be 7u or 6u instead of 6.25u
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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 31 August 2018, 08:15:39 »
hmm, interesting.... have always been interested in this layout style but only found cheap boards featuring it, so far...

Offline OracleKev

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 31 August 2018, 08:30:32 »
hmm, interesting.... have always been interested in this layout style but only found cheap boards featuring it, so far...

That's why something like offset or far left macro cluster is needed.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 31 August 2018, 11:12:17 »
well, i absolutely love this. i will definitely come out of board buying retirement for this baby! i think the del,ins,pu,pd cluster looks fine where it is also. i also like a lot of the color options. i love the retro look of the black on white, but also like the gold on white, and im also a big fan of that white on green. have u considered wkl? might bring the design together more than the hhkb, imo. anyway, great work!!!
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Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 01 September 2018, 21:50:37 »
hope the HHKB layout can be 7u or 6u instead of 6.25u

I figured most people would love 7u for HHKB layout over 6.25. so yea, it will be 7u

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 01 September 2018, 21:55:54 »
well, i absolutely love this. i will definitely come out of board buying retirement for this baby! i think the del,ins,pu,pd cluster looks fine where it is also. i also like a lot of the color options. i love the retro look of the black on white, but also like the gold on white, and im also a big fan of that white on green. have u considered wkl? might bring the design together more than the hhkb, imo. anyway, great work!!!

Thanks. I do have considered WKL. The only thing I worried about was the MOQ.

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 01 September 2018, 22:16:47 »
well, i absolutely love this. i will definitely come out of board buying retirement for this baby! i think the del,ins,pu,pd cluster looks fine where it is also. i also like a lot of the color options. i love the retro look of the black on white, but also like the gold on white, and im also a big fan of that white on green. have u considered wkl? might bring the design together more than the hhkb, imo. anyway, great work!!!

Thanks. I do have considered WKL. The only thing I worried about was the MOQ.

WKL pls...

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 02 September 2018, 08:31:49 »
im not sure if anyone else asked, and i forgot to put it in my interest check form. im a big fan of qmk. will this board either be flashable with qmk, or will u cooperate with us those interested in porting it?


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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 07:06:48 »
Love this! 70% is such a good size. Also forgot to add it in the IC form, but QMK would be really nice to have (though it's not necessarily a deal-breaker)

Also +1 on the WKL, it looks really pretty with this layout
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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 08:56:38 »
well, i absolutely love this. i will definitely come out of board buying retirement for this baby! i think the del,ins,pu,pd cluster looks fine where it is also. i also like a lot of the color options. i love the retro look of the black on white, but also like the gold on white, and im also a big fan of that white on green. have u considered wkl? might bring the design together more than the hhkb, imo. anyway, great work!!!

Thanks. I do have considered WKL. The only thing I worried about was the MOQ.

WKL pls...

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 04 September 2018, 09:18:29 »
ding

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated IC form)
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 10 September 2018, 13:12:47 »
Ah me!
I'm just sick and tired of waiting for group bays.
I'm really looking forward to it.
I want to buy it quickly. ~

Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 13:49:31 »
Updated new renders. USB C and QMK PCB are both confirmed.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 22:49:58 »
Holy smokes. I like this one a lot.
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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 23:21:39 »
What's the angle? I really like it a lot but I'm not so into flat profiles
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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 00:19:20 »
He said 3 degrees.
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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 04:45:58 »
Interested, but the top offset does present some problems as others have mentioned. Also looking for winkeyless

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 11:26:08 »
Really like the overall design, but 3 degrees is really a deal breaker for me. Wish it could be increased to at least 5 degrees

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 14:36:57 »
Really love the HHKB top version. To me the lower angle is great for sculpted SA caps, which don't see much love these days partly due to cases having a high angle

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 16:04:06 »
Really love the HHKB top version. To me the lower angle is great for sculpted SA caps, which don't see much love these days partly due to cases having a high angle
Agreed. 5 or less degree to me is optimal for SA. 7 and 8 degree customs are abismal to type on with SA caps.

Offline Simen

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (updated to Ver.B)
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 19:54:05 »
Interested, but the top offset does present some problems as others have mentioned. Also looking for winkeyless

WKL (7u spacebar) will be available.

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Re: [IC] [I]NETT- CROSS 70% (GB starts on Oct. 3rd)
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 28 September 2018, 19:03:28 »
So far most details have been settled. The changes include:

  • QMK
  • USB C
  • WKL option has been added

Several other good suggestions, unfortunately, were not accepted. There are a lot of tradeoffs. The top right LED indicators will stay as is because 67.1% responses support this option.

I'm planning to open the GB during 10/3 to 10/18. The MOQ is 30 kits. The limit is also 30 to make it manageable. Hope we can reach the MOQ.