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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 12:23:09 »
I don't know what an 8x14.5u Apple layout is.  Can you post a layout image?

Oh, okay I see.  I had no idea the space bar was that crazy on the M0116.  Does it feel janky?

The M0116 is my favourite layout of all time. Because the spacebar isn't ridiculously long, it's actually pretty well stabilised!

I'll update the original post to make the layouts clear. Thank you!

I had the opposite experience with the spacebar on a M0116. I got a really clean one for a good price awhile back, so I originally planned to just use it as is. Well the spacebar on it absolutely killed it for me,
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Because of the switch being offset so far to the right on the spacebar it would bind like crazy & always come back to rest crooked AF. I tried lubing the stabilizers/post & even went as far as hot gluing the wire holders into the plate cause I thought the left one might have been popping out with no luck. Just a bad design choice to put the switch where they did & unfortunately there is not much that can be done to fix that IME. What really kills me is the cap has a post for a centered switch which would have made the spacebar work perfectly.

Anyways, enough about that damned spacebar LOL! I really like this board design you've come up with & will hopefully be joining since I have a batch of very clean SKCM Oranges from my aforementioned M0116 that need a good home. Question though, will you be able to use the M0116s spacebar on a centered switch with this kit? I also like the size of it & think if it was on a centered switch all the problems I had with it on the offset switch will go away.

Bummer that you're not having a good time with it! The only thing I don't like is how they're ABS  :mad: But there may be something in the pipeline for this...

As for using the centre stem: I've just checked versus the PCB and it doesn't support the use of the centre stem. However, with a bit of wire you'd be able to conjure something if you were set on it! That said, the plate is also built with the use of the right-hand stem in mind but it wouldn't be too hard to move!

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Thanks for checking it out & the quick response! Kinda a bummer, but like you said if I am determined to get the switch in the center with a M0116 spacebar it is definitely possible with a little planning & elbow grease. Actually who knows being able to build the board myself may allow me to get the offset switch setup working properly. While it was a frustrating experience it probably was more to do with my specific M0116 &/or it's spacebar than the overall design, since the binding I experienced doesn't seem to be be a common complaint with them. Still very interested in the ASK55 either way!

As for the original M0116, AEK, AEKII, etc. spacebars, I agree them being ABS vs all the other old apple caps being PBT is pain. I managed to snag a pretty white AEK spacebar from the guy on e-bay that sells old apple caps, but one of the posts that hold the stab guide is cracked. Then I haven't had much luck retrobrighting any of the yellowed ones I got, so I am most certainly intrigued by the little nugget you dropped about something possibly being in the works about that too!
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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 11 August 2019, 15:50:48 »
Nothing major to report over the last week. Manufacturer one is still working on their protos; I'll be placing an order with manufacturer two this week (pending some more funds).

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 19 August 2019, 14:17:45 »
As you may be aware, we're working with two manufacturers on our last prototype revision. We've requested prototypes of our cases in UV/scratch resistant frosted polycarbonate and 6063 grey aluminium.

Manufacturer one is pricier than manufacturer two. However, their track record is phenomenal; they are the go-to manufacturer for very premium, very special boards. They know the community and they have a very keen eye for detail.

Manufacturer two is less costly. I don't believe that they are as privy to the community though they have worked with a good number of designers and produced successful and desirable boards.

Why am I telling you this?

I'm a sucker for perfection. I set out to deliver a product that I would, first and foremost, be proud to own myself. With this in mind, I've received the prototypes from manufacturer one today and they are bang on the money. They're gorgeous. Flawless, even. I can't fathom how delectable they are. They blow all of the the previous prototypes out of the park.

But, I'm eager to see if a cheaper manufacturer can deliver a product that rivals this quality. So, once I receive the prototypes from manufacturer two, I'll compare them versus the prototypes from manufacturer one in order to decide who we proceed with. I'll share my reasons and justifications. I'd hate to price people out of it however quality is my top priority.

Once this is done, we'll get some glamour shots prepared and then... then we can get hyped!   :D

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 01:29:10 »
As you may be aware, we're working with two manufacturers on our last prototype revision. We've requested prototypes of our cases in UV/scratch resistant frosted polycarbonate and 6063 grey aluminium.

Manufacturer one is pricier than manufacturer two. However, their track record is phenomenal; they are the go-to manufacturer for very premium, very special boards. They know the community and they have a very keen eye for detail.

Manufacturer two is less costly. I don't believe that they are as privy to the community though they have worked with a good number of designers and produced successful and desirable boards.

Why am I telling you this?

I'm a sucker for perfection. I set out to deliver a product that I would, first and foremost, be proud to own myself. With this in mind, I've received the prototypes from manufacturer one today and they are bang on the money. They're gorgeous. Flawless, even. I can't fathom how delectable they are. They blow all of the the previous prototypes out of the park.

But, I'm eager to see if a cheaper manufacturer can deliver a product that rivals this quality. So, once I receive the prototypes from manufacturer two, I'll compare them versus the prototypes from manufacturer one in order to decide who we proceed with. I'll share my reasons and justifications. I'd hate to price people out of it however quality is my top priority.

Once this is done, we'll get some glamour shots prepared and then... then we can get hyped!   :D

You're the designer, and it's your product. I know you'll make the best decision in the end!
So excited for this one!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 06 September 2019, 16:28:33 »
Very brief update:

  • Awaiting manufacturer 2's prototypes, in manufacture now
  • New revamped website will go live once manu 2's prototypes arrive

We're not done... we've not even started!  :p
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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 06 September 2019, 19:58:12 »
Very brief update:

  • Awaiting manufacturer 2's prototypes, in manufacture now
  • New revamped website will go live once manu 2's prototypes

We're not done... we've not even started!  :p

Great to hear about the updates.

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:17:57 »
I'm a sucker for perfection. I set out to deliver a product that I would, first and foremost, be proud to own myself.

Take your time, make it perfect and we'll follow ;)
6063 aluminium sounds perfect ;D and, as a fanboy, I can't wait to see the prototypes, to be honest!




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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 20 September 2019, 11:30:17 »
I'm a sucker for perfection. I set out to deliver a product that I would, first and foremost, be proud to own myself.

Take your time, make it perfect and we'll follow ;)
6063 aluminium sounds perfect ;D and, as a fanboy, I can't wait to see the prototypes, to be honest!


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Thank you for the feedback!

I bring news. The second (cheaper) manufacturer is sending two consignments after missing half of the protos off the first delivery. I've received the first consignment today. First impressions are OK. They're clearly not as good as our more expensive option; they have a few scratches on non-outside edges which I'm not too impressed with. The delivery mess-up doesn't fill me with hope either.

However, I'll await the second consignment before I get some pictures out and come to a decision. Though, early indication would be that I'd be more satisfied with a better quality finish which our first manufacturer has proven that they can deliver.

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 21 September 2019, 05:18:43 »
I'm a sucker for perfection. I set out to deliver a product that I would, first and foremost, be proud to own myself.

Take your time, make it perfect and we'll follow ;)
6063 aluminium sounds perfect ;D and, as a fanboy, I can't wait to see the prototypes, to be honest!


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Thank you for the feedback!

I bring news. The second (cheaper) manufacturer is sending two consignments after missing half of the protos off the first delivery. I've received the first consignment today. First impressions are OK. They're clearly not as good as our more expensive option; they have a few scratches on non-outside edges which I'm not too impressed with. The delivery mess-up doesn't fill me with hope either.

However, I'll await the second consignment before I get some pictures out and come to a decision. Though, early indication would be that I'd be more satisfied with a better quality finish which our first manufacturer has proven that they can deliver.
Great news! Can't wait!

I'm not sure how other people feel but personally I'd be willing to pay a bit extra in order to have a better quality final product, so I'd be happier with manu 1

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[IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 21 September 2019, 06:16:55 »
I'm not sure how other people feel

Same

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 21 September 2019, 22:08:59 »
I'm not sure how other people feel

Same

Yeah, it's crossed my mind. I am conscious of the price though I am a sucker for the crème de la crème. I wouldn't be happy with something which wasn't perfect. We'll know more in a week or so. Manu 2, the cheaper manu, have asked for some pictures and details so we'll see what comes of that too.

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 22 September 2019, 05:03:03 »
Great! Sounds like you're on it! I'm also a sucker for perfection and Im really into boards with small details to appreciate. Thanks for keeping us updated!

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 04:56:51 »
any minor updates ?

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 11:44:13 »
Great! Sounds like you're on it! I'm also a sucker for perfection and Im really into boards with small details to appreciate. Thanks for keeping us updated!

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any minor updates ?

I recognise that it's been a while; I've been caught up with quite a few things out in the real world.

I'm still tasked with liaising with the cheaper manu to see if there's any resolution to their imperfections. Otherwise, we'll crack on with manufacturer one.

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Re: [IC] ASK55 - Alps 14.5u Keyboard (NEW RENDERS)
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 11:52:40 »
Great! Sounds like you're on it! I'm also a sucker for perfection and Im really into boards with small details to appreciate. Thanks for keeping us updated!

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any minor updates ?

I recognise that it's been a while; I've been caught up with quite a few things out in the real world.

I'm still tasked with liaising with the cheaper manu to see if there's any resolution to their imperfections. Otherwise, we'll crack on with manufacturer one.
Epic! Sounds great, I can't wait for this!

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