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Offline japancakes

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 22:00:49 »
Really looking forward to this. Curious about case colors.

I'm also not sure about the case shape around the acrylic in the front and back going from smaller to bigger. It's kind of busy and makes the design look less clean.

Anyway, still going to get one. lol.

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #201 on: Mon, 14 January 2019, 22:20:33 »
is the r1 pcb the exact same as the r2 pcb? I need another pcb for the r1 ve.a, so it'd be great if they were the same.
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« Reply #202 on: Tue, 15 January 2019, 17:05:58 »
Yes please - I missed buying the first one, but I will definitely be getting this one. And like others have said here, I would prefer USB-C over SATA, but it's not a deal-breaker for me.

Offline DPetford

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« Reply #203 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 05:07:25 »
Interested! Generally agree on previous comments suggesting the logo aesthetic needing a change and connecting cable being updated to USB-C.

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 16 January 2019, 09:01:04 »
Totally in for this!

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« Reply #205 on: Fri, 18 January 2019, 20:28:27 »
Look pretty great. But I still prefer USB-C over mini-USB and SATA for durability and more off-the-shelf cable options to chose from(like magnetic, glowing, flat USB-C cable).

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« Reply #206 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 12:43:23 »
Will the GB be run through massdrop again, or a new website like typemachina?

Also, how many colors for the nameplate will be offered? I saw a couple different ones in the old thread.

Anyways, this is all very exciting  :thumb:

Should look sweet with some colorful GMK mod sets :cool:

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #207 on: Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:17:27 »
winkeyless is out of business, so I'm not sure that it's a good idea to use his firmware

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #208 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 08:37:09 »
Im down!

Soldering a v1 right now O_O

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #209 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:18:20 »
Any idea on when the GB will begin?

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« Reply #210 on: Thu, 31 January 2019, 17:14:45 »
interested as well. forsure in on this one

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« Reply #211 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:30:37 »
If this ends up dead, I will blame the usb-c fanatics.

I have seen zero reports of anyone having issues with the sata connector, and imo it adds to the unique charm of the board.

Donít kill ve.a by forcing it to be something different please
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:38:40 by FoC_Tow »

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« Reply #212 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:53:17 »
DEFINITELY in! i will take two or three of them if possible! no joking, they are one of my favorite boards so i wanna make a collection out of them haha and plus the v1's price is too expensive ugh....
when do you think the GB could start ?

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #213 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 11:49:29 »
Reminder SATA is only rated for 500 cycles

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« Reply #214 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 11:56:42 »
Should use a PATA cable for more uniqueness....  :cool:

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« Reply #215 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 12:07:43 »
If this ends up dead, I will blame the usb-c fanatics.

I have seen zero reports of anyone having issues with the sata connector, and imo it adds to the unique charm of the board.

Donít kill ve.a by forcing it to be something different please

If the design doesn't change, then it's just VEA R2 with rainbow badges. This isn't a new board or a re-though concept. It's what we already have, with a cosmetic change.

If you want to add "charm" to a board, it shouldn't be because of a bad connector choice, it should be through conscience design considerations.
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« Reply #216 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 12:21:37 »
If this ends up dead, I will blame the usb-c fanatics.

I have seen zero reports of anyone having issues with the sata connector, and imo it adds to the unique charm of the board.

Donít kill ve.a by forcing it to be something different please

It's not a feature. It's a bug.
If your product has something that tons of potential customers hate and claim to be a dealbreaker, that's a bad design decision. Not a "unique charm point".
The fact that you cannot easily buy a backup cable for this board should be proof enough that this needs reconsideration to be worth calling a new version and not, you know, a glorified R2 at best.
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 February 2019, 12:23:43 by nguyenhimself »

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« Reply #217 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 15:10:01 »
Is the r2 pcb the same as r1?

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« Reply #218 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 16:10:48 »
Is the r2 pcb the same as r1?

Yes.  Same PCB.

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« Reply #219 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 16:26:28 »
If this ends up dead, I will blame the usb-c fanatics.

I have seen zero reports of anyone having issues with the sata connector, and imo it adds to the unique charm of the board.

Donít kill ve.a by forcing it to be something different please

It's not a feature. It's a bug.
If your product has something that tons of potential customers hate and claim to be a dealbreaker, that's a bad design decision. Not a "unique charm point".
The fact that you cannot easily buy a backup cable for this board should be proof enough that this needs reconsideration to be worth calling a new version and not, you know, a glorified R2 at best.


Iím not going to argue much in this topic but this is my honest opinion on the sata bashing.

I like the Sata, you can easily buy replacements as well as sleeved cables (easier than type c imo?), I never had a sata cable fail on me ever, 500 inserts is the rating of the cable not the port, I still havenít seen any reports of ve.a with broken port...

If no one had an issue with it ever, how is it a bug?

Imo itís just people following a mainstream opinion.
Much of this mass outrage, such as sata causing latency issues is just based on opinion forming with no factual background.
(Yes sata ratings are factual. Claiming you are not able to buy replacement sata cables however is, at best, proof how ridicolous this whole argumentation has been and does not make your arguments more trust worthy. No offense)

Good design choices sometimes require to go against common believes.
Itís often better to follow the original vision than have it made generic by the opinion of many, thatís what a vision keeper usually does.


Argue how ever you like this is how I feel and I donít mind not following common believe.

I know most of you formed different opinions, but I feel all this sata bashing will cause is v2 not beeing released at all.

I know sata ratings are a fact, and some might prefer type c, feel free to voice your opinion just please donít turn this into a bashing.

=)
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 February 2019, 16:49:55 by FoC_Tow »

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #220 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:40:11 »
=)

I have no real interest in perpetuating the conversation/discussion, and as I've admitted prior I take some fault far as the "blaming SATA" thing goes, but is there a singular argument to be made in favour of not swapping other than SATA looking cool?

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« Reply #221 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 17:56:24 »
=)

I have no real interest in perpetuating the conversation/discussion, and as I've admitted prior I take some fault far as the "blaming SATA" thing goes, but is there a singular argument to be made in favour of not swapping other than SATA looking cool?

Another argument is they wouldn't need to redesign the PCB which could lead to R2 happening more quickly/cheaply as they don't need to take the time or effort to redesign it.

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« Reply #222 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 18:10:07 »
Another argument is they wouldn't need to redesign the PCB which could lead to R2 happening more quickly/cheaply as they don't need to take the time or effort to redesign it.

Is that supremely relevant though, considering they had like 3 years to work on redesigning/"improving" the PCB design? I suppose the pricing could matter but I wouldn't know how much of an impact that may have, I guess no one really does but Oddforge and the people involved in the project. I feel like compromising to save a little bit of money when it comes to such a long-awaited and loved board is probably not the smartest move.

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« Reply #223 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 18:25:10 »
Another argument is they wouldn't need to redesign the PCB which could lead to R2 happening more quickly/cheaply as they don't need to take the time or effort to redesign it.

Is that supremely relevant though, considering they had like 3 years to work on redesigning/"improving" the PCB design? I suppose the pricing could matter but I wouldn't know how much of an impact that may have, I guess no one really does but Oddforge and the people involved in the project. I feel like compromising to save a little bit of money when it comes to such a long-awaited and loved board is probably not the smartest move.

You don't have to convince me that USB-C is the better option; I'm already firmly in that camp. I was just giving you another argument other than aesthetics as to why to stick with SATA at this point.

For better or worse, ildustry already gave his reasons for SATA over USB-C which did come down to aesthetics. My argument is more based on the time factor rather than money. It doesn't matter how long they have had since the last version, but rather how much longer it would take if the designers decided to change connectors right now (presumably based on feedback from this IC) when the interest in this board is already very high and I'm sure there are many who couldn't care less about the connector changing to USB-C if it means getting the board faster.

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #224 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 18:32:15 »
Damn OP ain't been back to update in years since ya'll are ebola trying to get the man to change his SATA.

I switched all the SSD's in my PC to Optical Toslink due to the latency issues mentioned here which is also why I'll be passing the VE.A but I'm a let the man do him and use SATA instead of saying a board I don't own has issues.

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« Reply #225 on: Mon, 04 February 2019, 23:00:01 »
I switched all the SSD's in my PC to Optical Toslink

Wat!? I can't even

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #226 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:07:26 »
Fail to purchase GMK Olivia T^T
SaiB-CP Black - Kailh Bronze (Non Click / 58g) - Finish
Light Saver v1 Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v2 Gray - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v3 Silver - Cherry 8200 White (Non Click / 64g)
Light Saver Acryl (Duck96 base) - Gateron Yellow (Linear / 62g) - Season 1 Fin.
Octagon v1 Black - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g) / TX-1800 v1 Red/Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 58g)
VE.A Test Housing- Cherry 8113 White (Non Click / 58g)
TC-V3 , LZ*ASRH Black, VE.A 2nd
... etc.

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« Reply #227 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:21:36 »
I just wanted to look pretty.

I've built a SATA cable.

I'm gonna use it for VE.A 1 & newer.


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Fail to purchase GMK Olivia T^T
SaiB-CP Black - Kailh Bronze (Non Click / 58g) - Finish
Light Saver v1 Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v2 Gray - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v3 Silver - Cherry 8200 White (Non Click / 64g)
Light Saver Acryl (Duck96 base) - Gateron Yellow (Linear / 62g) - Season 1 Fin.
Octagon v1 Black - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g) / TX-1800 v1 Red/Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 58g)
VE.A Test Housing- Cherry 8113 White (Non Click / 58g)
TC-V3 , LZ*ASRH Black, VE.A 2nd
... etc.

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« Reply #228 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:32:42 »
PainMaster, any estimate of when this GB will go live? In other words, when will we be able to buy?

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« Reply #229 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:50:52 »
PainMaster, any estimate of when this GB will go live? In other words, when will we be able to buy?


Well...
Actually, I'm all set to get request, but...


I'll check with you in a few days.
Fail to purchase GMK Olivia T^T
SaiB-CP Black - Kailh Bronze (Non Click / 58g) - Finish
Light Saver v1 Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v2 Gray - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g)
Light Saver v3 Silver - Cherry 8200 White (Non Click / 64g)
Light Saver Acryl (Duck96 base) - Gateron Yellow (Linear / 62g) - Season 1 Fin.
Octagon v1 Black - Cherry 1501 Black (Linear / 64g) / TX-1800 v1 Red/Black - Cherry Wyze Black (Linear / 58g)
VE.A Test Housing- Cherry 8113 White (Non Click / 58g)
TC-V3 , LZ*ASRH Black, VE.A 2nd
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« Reply #230 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 04:06:06 »
PainMaster, any estimate of when this GB will go live? In other words, when will we be able to buy?


Well...
Actually, I'm all set to get request, but...


I'll check with you in a few days.
Can't wait! For some reason I thought it would be a while before the GB, so I'm glad it's happening soon.

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« Reply #231 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:33:24 »
PainMaster, any estimate of when this GB will go live? In other words, when will we be able to buy?


Well...
Actually, I'm all set to get request, but...


I'll check with you in a few days.

Awesome! And estimated price?

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« Reply #232 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 09:52:40 »
Awesome! And estimated price?

Oddforge commented on it a few pages back, I can't remember the exact amount and I'm too lazy to go back but it was like $300-350 (think it was 320) for a kit

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« Reply #233 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:46:18 »
Awesome! And estimated price?

Oddforge commented on it a few pages back, I can't remember the exact amount and I'm too lazy to go back but it was like $300-350 (think it was 320) for a kit

Thanks 😊. It's a very long thread.


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« Reply #234 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 21:28:35 »
Will the PCB be compatible with the VE.A R1 case?

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« Reply #235 on: Mon, 11 February 2019, 21:54:41 »
I would be in for this.

Still no solid go live date it seems?

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« Reply #236 on: Wed, 20 February 2019, 10:50:16 »
Wow I would definitely 100% be on board for a v2 vea. I have a v1 and love it. Would absolutely buy a v2 with a better connector cable.
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« Reply #237 on: Tue, 26 February 2019, 16:22:10 »
Any updates on this? Would love to be able join the GB soon.

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« Reply #238 on: Tue, 26 February 2019, 16:37:03 »
Any updates on this? Would love to be able join the GB soon.

Same.
Love the design of light effect in the split part.  :thumb:

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« Reply #239 on: Tue, 26 February 2019, 18:08:35 »
Super happy VE.A owner/lurker here, would love to have another one.  Or two. 

I occasionally travel with mine and have never had an issue with the SATA connectors.  It still concerns me, but less than it did initially.

Flakiness of USB through an Apple Cinema Display after upgrading to/beyond OSX Sierra... that's an entirely different issue that's Apple's fault.


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« Reply #240 on: Tue, 26 February 2019, 18:15:03 »
Super happy VE.A owner/lurker here, would love to have another one.  Or two. 

I occasionally travel with mine and have never had an issue with the SATA connectors.  It still concerns me, but less than it did initially.

Flakiness of USB through an Apple Cinema Display after upgrading to/beyond OSX Sierra... that's an entirely different issue that's Apple's fault.

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That is a clean build!  :thumb:

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« Reply #241 on: Tue, 05 March 2019, 10:19:10 »
any updates?

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« Reply #242 on: Tue, 05 March 2019, 22:34:22 »
Super happy VE.A owner/lurker here, would love to have another one.  Or two. 

I occasionally travel with mine and have never had an issue with the SATA connectors.  It still concerns me, but less than it did initially.

Flakiness of USB through an Apple Cinema Display after upgrading to/beyond OSX Sierra... that's an entirely different issue that's Apple's fault.

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That is a clean build!  :thumb:

Thanks :) if only you could see the mess I made while trying to get the lock inidicator lights working...

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« Reply #243 on: Fri, 08 March 2019, 12:19:14 »
interested

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« Reply #244 on: Fri, 08 March 2019, 12:25:19 »
can you add stepped caps lock support?

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« Reply #245 on: Fri, 08 March 2019, 12:37:22 »
Time to change the Sata connector to USB-C this round!

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« Reply #246 on: Sat, 09 March 2019, 16:26:35 »
In for one. SATA is fine by me.

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« Reply #247 on: Sat, 09 March 2019, 23:05:36 »
This looks awesome!

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[IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #248 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 05:30:17 »
Came back months later and OP is being excited about a prettier SATA cable...

What a waste of an otherwise amazing keyboard. I know this hobby has a non-insignificant element of retro computing nostalgia, but this is on a whole other level of tech luddism.

Best of luck to those who still stick around for the GB. I wonít.
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 March 2019, 09:11:03 by nguyenhimself »

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« Reply #249 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 07:21:28 »
Came back months later and OP is being excited about a prettier SATA cable...

What a waste of an otherwise amazing keyboard. I know this hobby has an non-insignificant element of retro computing nostalgia, but this is on a whole other level of tech luddism.

Best of luck to those who still stick around for the GB. I wonít.
I was mainly excited because there's really no alternative to it in the 75% form factor. Sure, there's the clone on taobao, but the quality of that leaves a lot to be desired.
You're right though, my excitement has dropped quite a bit. Especially since there really hasn't been any updates since it was first announced.