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[GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Extras OPEN
« on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 12:24:21 »


May 10:
Extras opened.

May 8:
Finally counted extras.
Will go live May 10, 9:30am PST here: https://missing-key.myshopify.com/
MyKeyboard.eu will also have extras at some point...

May 3:
Int'l shipping invoices are all out.  When you pay, I'll ship.  Let me know if I missed you, or accidentally sent you one.
Working on sorting / counting extras now.  (And hoping there are no 'missing-key's in current orders)

Apr 30:
Dropped off most Shopify orders today.  There was a weird issue 4 packages: 2 labels didn't want to print, 1 is an unusual int'l, and 1 needs a bigger box.
I'll work on those, and PayPal orders tonight too.  Expect shipping invoices within a day or two.  Packaging took a little longer than I expected, due to building boxes and taping them, etc.

Apr 26:
Done sorting caps into kits.  Reverifying their weight (certainly mis-created some kits) and labeling. 
Also, need to organize orders into packing lists, etc.

Apr 15:
Caps are here, now I sort.

SP has shipped; should be here Monday or so.  Then I have to sort...

After some confusion over the invoice, SP has confirmed production is started and 'should' ship out on April 11.  Sorry for this delay.  This means I'll likely ship in Late April / Early May (Shipping transit + 2 weeks sorting).

MOQ HIT! CLOSED!

Order Via:

Shopify: https://missing-key.myshopify.com/
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Google Form: https://goo.gl/forms/3rEVxWANEjlbNyLB3
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EU Proxy: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/sa-blanks-gb_132/

Are you frustrated with so many symbols and legends on your keyboard?  Are all the colors on your keycaps confusing you, blinding you, or making you nauseated?  Do you know where the all the keys are anyway?  Do you really wish you had some SA caps with split space, 40's, ISO Enter, and / or otho support OUT OF THE BOX?

If you answered YES to any of the above, I HAVE THE PRODUCT FOR YOU: BLANK KEYCAPS!!!!

More

Sculpted in 1-1-2-3-4-3: The most comfortable profile.  Scientifically demonstrated. 

Colors are:
Black - NN, the same color as SA Pulse.
White - WFK, the same color as SA Oblivion Hagoromo.

I'd recommend the Shopify for US folks, and the Google Form for international folks (since a proxy can show up and make shipping 'different').

Invoices will be sent to forms folks when their kits all reach MOQ.  You will have a week to pay, or I will cancel your order (and become annoyed at you).  Shipping will be billed later for these orders.

Times:
Jan 13: Orders close, Submit order to Signature Plastics for manufacturing.
8-12 weeks: Manufacturing.
1 week: Shipping to me.
2 weeks: Sorting / packing.
That puts us around April 15th roughly for shipping.

I'll be ordering extras for a lot of the kits.

Proxies:
EU Proxy: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/sa-blanks-gb_132/
No Asia Proxy.

Sets:
60's set
TKL set
40's set
Ergo set
Ortho set


Current Numbers / MOQs:
Alpha Kits:
Alphas WFK: 16 / 25
Alphas NN: 19 / 25
Deep Dish WFK: 12 / 25
Deep Dish NN: 16 / 25
Deep Dish Alpha WFK: 0 / 5
Deep Dish Alpha NN: 1 / 5

Modifier Kits:
Standard Mods:  15 / 25
65 Nav: 11 / 25
40's:  6 / 15
Ortho:  16 / 25
Split Shifts: 17 / 25
ErgoDox: 6 / 15

Bottom Row:
Spacebar 7u: 9 / 15
Spacebar 6.25u: 14 /15
Spacebar 3u: 1 /15
Split Space: 13 / 25
Hybrid Bottom Row:  1 / 15
Winkey Bottom Row: 11 / 25
Winkey-less Bottom Row: 10 / 15

Etc.:
F-Row / Nav (TKL):  8 / 25
Numpad: 5 / 15
ISO Enter: 2 / 15

Looking like this will happen.  Get your orders in!

If you don't see a kit, or want something weird, please ask. I won't change existing kits, but I can add new ones. (e.g., I added Ergodox and Numpad so far.)
« Last Edit: Fri, 10 May 2019, 11:38:32 by fireworm »

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 12:24:35 »
Reserved.

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 09:03:26 »
Approved

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:19:27 »
this is so awesome, im getting WKL mods, 7u, split spacebars and 65% mod kit. I was on the fence of getting a full alpha cluster of deep dish keys too, but it got too expensive  ;D

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:21:54 »
Sweet, I don't think I've seen a blank SA board that wasn't random crapbag caps.

Can get a clean retro chunky board look with these.

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:24:46 »
this is so awesome, im getting WKL mods, 7u, split spacebars and 65% mod kit. I was on the fence of getting a full alpha cluster of deep dish keys too, but it got too expensive  ;D

Send me a DM, I think I can give you some discount...?

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:31:18 »
this is so awesome, im getting WKL mods, 7u, split spacebars and 65% mod kit. I was on the fence of getting a full alpha cluster of deep dish keys too, but it got too expensive  ;D

Send me a DM, I think I can give you some discount...?

Its fine my friend, i have so many keyboard and other bills to pay in december, i have to be smart on what to spend money on. Thanks for the offer

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:43:47 »
Sweet, I don't think I've seen a blank SA board that wasn't random crapbag caps.

Can get a clean retro chunky board look with these.

Exactly.   ;D

And cheaper than most SA sets, if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 15:16:17 »
No numpad support?? Or am I too blind to spot them here?

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 15:22:58 »
No numpad support?? Or am I too blind to spot them here?

I work on it later today.  Shouldn't be too bad.

No one requested it in IC, so I didn't make the kits.

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 15:40:59 »
Thx

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 19:09:31 »
Finally

I'd love some in white (all white), red, yellow, or pink as well

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 19:51:43 »
No numpad support?? Or am I too blind to spot them here?

I work on it later today.  Shouldn't be too bad.

No one requested it in IC, so I didn't make the kits.

Awesome  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 20:11:50 »
Finally

I'd love some in white (all white), red, yellow, or pink as well
Yep, color preference during IC was white, black, gray, all tied, pink second, and lots of other stuff after that.

I just gotta make sure I'm not stretching myself too thin and understand the workload involved with a GB (or storefront).

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 20:44:48 »
No numpad support?? Or am I too blind to spot them here?

Added Numpad, $18, MOQ 15.

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 00:12:54 »
Current Numbers / MOQs:
Alphas WFK: 4 / 50
Alphas NN: 2 / 50
Deep Dish WFK: 2 / 25
Deep Dish NN: 1 / 25
Standard Mods:  2 / 25
65 Nav: 2 / 25
40's:  4 / 15
F-Row / Nav (TKL):  1 / 25
Ortho:  1 / 25
ISO Enter: 0 / 15
Spacebar 7u: 2 / 15
Spacebar 6.25u: 1 /15
Split Shifts: 1 / 25
Split Space: 3 / 25
Hybrid Bottom Row:  0 / 15
Winkey Bottom Row: 0 / 25
Winkey-less Bottom Row: 2 / 15
ErgoDox: 4 / 15
Numpad: 0 / 15

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 16:39:31 »
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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 16:41:08 »
wow there are so many nice kits, lets hope we hit some MOQs

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Re: [GB] SA Blanks (Black Black Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 16:46:11 »
wow there are so many nice kits, lets hope we hit some MOQs

Seriously.  Some of the prices are based on other kits hitting MOQ as well...

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 17:41:58 »
Made my selection, I suspect there may be too many kits though... The idea of an all homing alpha kit is interesting, I did six homing keys like on Realforce HiPro boards with my /dev/tty blanks.

Really hoping this works out in the end though, I can never have too many high profile blank sets.

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 08 December 2018, 21:58:19 »
Made my selection, I suspect there may be too many kits though... The idea of an all homing alpha kit is interesting, I did six homing keys like on Realforce HiPro boards with my /dev/tty blanks.

Really hoping this works out in the end though, I can never have too many high profile blank sets.
I was thinking of combining bottom row kits, to force folks to buy both.

But other than that (and deep dish alphas), where else do you see places to simplify?

An "all mods and spacebars" kit?

I felt like folks would be motivated by saving money on SA, which means buying exactly what you need.

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 02:29:18 »
Shouldn’t the google form be set to allow u to edit your response? Or do u just Submit a new response to replace your old one then?

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black White) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 11:59:32 »
Shouldn’t the google form be set to allow u to edit your response? Or do u just Submit a new response to replace your old one then?
You should be able to edit your responses. Typically, if I go back to a form it says I already filled it out, and there's a link to edit.

https://imgur.com/a/cMYMIrx

Edit: or send me a pm and I'll adjust it. :)
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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 16:07:55 »
Well in past IC's for this exact idea there was always one big kit. I really don't know what would entice buyers but personally I would do a 'base kit' that supports everything 60%-TKL, maybe even 104-key, and then an ergodox kit, 40% kit, and white alphas kit.

I also don't know if it would decrease prices in any way but if those kits were sold in multiple colors at the same time maybe there would be more general interest - I would certainly buy at least two and maybe three depending on the price, if there were different colors.

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 16:37:52 »
Well in past IC's for this exact idea there was always one big kit. I really don't know what would entice buyers but personally I would do a 'base kit' that supports everything 60%-TKL, maybe even 104-key, and then an ergodox kit, 40% kit, and white alphas kit.

I also don't know if it would decrease prices in any way but if those kits were sold in multiple colors at the same time maybe there would be more general interest - I would certainly buy at least two and maybe three depending on the price, if there were different colors.

I see; I'll at least add those as 'sets': 40's, 60's, TKL, Full, Ergo, Ortho.  I always thought those were annoying, since folks end up with a bunch of less useful keys...  I wasn't gonna offer alpha kits at all, since I thought folks had them already from the other SA blank GB, but the IC showed some interest, so I added them.

Sets wouldn't decrease prices, since I'm still gonna submit a big order for 'R1 SA NN x1,090; R2 SA NN x1,527', etc.  And then sort them myself...  x.x

Edit: I really just want to be flexible to folks with a budget; it likely wouldn't cost me any 'real' time here aside from packing / shipping their order.  But I see the case for too much analysis paralysis...
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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:55:34 »
Well in past IC's for this exact idea there was always one big kit. I really don't know what would entice buyers but personally I would do a 'base kit' that supports everything 60%-TKL, maybe even 104-key, and then an ergodox kit, 40% kit, and white alphas kit.

I also don't know if it would decrease prices in any way but if those kits were sold in multiple colors at the same time maybe there would be more general interest - I would certainly buy at least two and maybe three depending on the price, if there were different colors.

I see; I'll at least add those as 'sets': 40's, 60's, TKL, Full, Ergo, Ortho.  I always thought those were annoying, since folks end up with a bunch of less useful keys...  I wasn't gonna offer alpha kits at all, since I thought folks had them already from the other SA blank GB, but the IC showed some interest, so I added them.

Sets wouldn't decrease prices, since I'm still gonna submit a big order for 'R1 SA NN x1,090; R2 SA NN x1,527', etc.  And then sort them myself...  x.x

Edit: I really just want to be flexible to folks with a budget; it likely wouldn't cost me any 'real' time here aside from packing / shipping their order.  But I see the case for too much analysis paralysis...

60's set
TKL set

Purchasing any set will just add to the MOQ's of the child sets, but we still need Alphas to make MOQ 50 for the the sets happen.  They also all have a small discount to them, and don't include Split Space or ISO.  They instead include the extra 1u blanks for all the other kits, like 65 nav, and FRow / TKL.  Might switch that around, but could be a little tricky, since I'm not doing 'whole' kits any more...

Also, adjusted the landing page on the shopify, so it's clearer about what's what.

Will get 40's set, Ortho set, and Ergo set, and update the form with these new options tomorrow.
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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 13:45:05 »
Bump for adding:

60's set

TKL set


Which are kits with 'all the options you need', Alphas, Std Mods, Split Shift, Split Space, WK & WKL, 6.25 & 7u spacebars.  They are cheaper than ordering all kits together.

They are missing the ISO Enter and Numpad.

Hope that simplifies the choice for some folks...
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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 12 December 2018, 15:54:50 »
Bump for adding:

40's set

Ergo set

Ortho set


Also noticed the 40's kit was missing an R3 1u, which makes some minivan layouts impossible, so I'll add that the kits [free].


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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 12:46:58 »
is there no option for white split space? I dont see it on your site

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 15:03:09 »
It’s only white alphas currently

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 15:51:14 »
is there no option for white split space? I dont see it on your site
If this GB goes well, I'll offer white split space later.

The Moq is actually based on number of keys, so only adding white split space would be a Moq of 50 or so...

Black split space shares a lot of keys with standard Mods and split shift, so the price and Moq can be lower...

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 21:30:47 »
is there no option for white split space? I dont see it on your site
If this GB goes well, I'll offer white split space later.

The Moq is actually based on number of keys, so only adding white split space would be a Moq of 50 or so...

Black split space shares a lot of keys with standard Mods and split shift, so the price and Moq can be lower...

ahh ok.. form submitted! hope we hit MOQ :)

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 December 2018, 11:24:12 »
I have a question about the kits vs individual kits. For the 40% individual kits there are colored keys (not black or white) that are included whereas the 40% kit I only see black and white keys in the renders. Is that correct?

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 17 December 2018, 14:03:08 »
I have a question about the kits vs individual kits. For the 40% individual kits there are colored keys (not black or white) that are included whereas the 40% kit I only see black and white keys in the renders. Is that correct?

You mean the ones with 'R1'?  No, I was just trying to show the rows with colors so you wouldn't get confused about whats included... 

Only black / white keys are what you will get.  I'll update the older images throughout the day with the new 'decals' that the sets have.

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:48:18 »
more people will join if there is purple and red sets.


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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 13:50:49 »
more people will join if there is purple and red sets.



I would say That White/Gray would get the most sales.
The GB starter said he choose Black cause he wanted to.


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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 19:35:42 »
more people will join if there is purple and red sets.



I would say That White/Gray would get the most sales.
The GB starter said he choose Black cause he wanted to.
IC showed equal interest between white, gray, and black.  R2 will likely be both wfk, and gd, making it Oblivion Hagoromo.

Pink was second.

I'm sure I could get more a few people, but I need 25-per-kit more people. ;)

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 10:21:37 »
I did some more crunching, and realized that we could lower the MOQ on the alphas to 25.  We are about half way on most kits.

Updated numbers.

Alphas WFK: 12 / 25
Alphas NN: 11 / 25
Deep Dish WFK: 10 / 25
Deep Dish NN:11 / 25
Deep Dish Alpha WFK: 0 / 5
Deep Dish Alpha NN: 0 / 5
Standard Mods: 11 / 25
65 Nav: 10 / 25
40's:  5 / 15
F-Row / Nav (TKL):  5 / 25
Ortho:  8 / 25
ISO Enter: 1 / 15
Spacebar 7u: 8 / 15
Spacebar 6.25u: 9 / 15
Spacebar 3u: 1 / 15
Split Shifts:12 / 25
Split Space: 12 / 25
Hybrid Bottom Row:  1 / 15
Winkey Bottom Row: 8 / 25
Winkey-less Bottom Row: 9 / 25
ErgoDox: 4 / 15
Numpad: 3 / 15

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 24 December 2018, 21:44:46 »
Curious about the White set... is it only white caps for alpha num? Or is it the whole keyboard?

edit: oops I'm really blind apparently, didn't see the previous post asking the same question

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 12:47:08 »
Bump for some post holiday exposure.

No new numbers....

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:47:53 »
Ordered some kits!  :thumb:


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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 18:34:13 »
How much would it cost to sponsor this GB for the rest of the way?

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 19:34:02 »
How much would it cost to sponsor this GB for the rest of the way?
I'm keeping an eye on things; I'm willing to buy some myself for future sales.

DM me if you want to help more. :)

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 15:28:19 »
Are most of the kits for this being made or are still needing more kits sold?

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 17:44:41 »
Are most of the kits for this being made or are still needing more kits sold?
I'll go ahead and say everything will be made.

The only weird thing will be the hybrid kit, which no one really seemed care about, so I'll cut it or just order 5.

Interest does seem a bit low; maybe I just need to do something like Mondrian, which is just blanks anyway.... Or add some accent colors, like Modern Dolch.

Or no one really cares about SA Blanks?

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 17:46:13 »
We care! I just think its the timing...

Some accents could be nice!

Even LED windowed blanks would be the lights from heaven  :eek:

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Re: [GB] SA Bla_ks (Black & White Blanks) - Open Until January 6
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 02 January 2019, 17:50:46 »
We care! I just think its the timing...

Some accents could be nice!

Even LED windowed blanks would be the lights from heaven  :eek:
Possibly.

Which is why I'm likely hedging a small bet on extras being popular. ;P