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Offline PuNkShoO

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[IC] Melody Redux Switch
« on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 15:49:37 »


From the very moment you step into the vibrant festival grounds, it's as though you're entering a realm of pure joy, where it’s immediately clear that this day will be one to remember. Colorful flags swirl and flutter in the warm breeze, painting the sky with vibrant hues, while the sun casts a radiant, golden glow over everything, wrapping the entire scene in a blanket of warmth and happiness. Every beat of the music reverberates through you, as if it were syncing with your heartbeat, lifting your spirits higher with each pulse of sound, filling you with a deep, intoxicating sense of euphoria.

The day unfolds like a symphony of life and celebration, as people dance with wild, unbridled freedom, their laughter rising into the air, mingling perfectly with the rhythmic beats that pulse from the stages. Everywhere you look, faces glow with radiant smiles, the joy unmistakable as the uplifting melodies seep into every soul present, stirring emotions that lie deep within you. Time seems to melt away in the boundless energy of the festival, and the day stretches out like a golden dream, overflowing with inspiration, pure joy, and a sense of connection. The memories forged in these moments will echo long after the final note has drifted away, lingering like the melody of a favorite song.



Heya! PuNkShoO here back from a bit of a hiatus. If you’re unfamiliar, I am the designer of the Cream Soda, Root Beer Float, Summertime, Melody, and Runner switches. Today I would like to introduce you to a long awaited follow-up to the the Melodies, Melody Redux.

Melody Redux is a switch I've been working on for quite some time now due to manufacturing inconsistencies in the original Melody switch produced by Aflion. The OG Melody was beloved by many for its interesting "linearn't" feel and full sound profile. Unfortunately, factory lubrication was never consistent from batch to batch or even in same batches. As such, I wanted to work with a manufacturer that was much more seasoned and able to deliver the much-needed consistency across the board. Enter BSUN.

I had originally intended to move forward with this project much sooner but I didn't want it to go under the radar during a time when there was a flood of BSUN recolors and the like hitting the market weekly. So I waited. When the hype changed focus from BSUN to HMX I decided it was time to finally start working on reviving Melody after many requests from fans of the original design.

The goal of this redesign was to emulate as much of the OG Melody principles as possible while also adopting a slightly new look, sound and feel by embracing the parameters of the new manufacturer's tooling. Ultimately, we landed on a slightly desaturated and shifted colorway that differentiates itself but also captures the same vibe of the original. Additionally, POM was chosen as a material all around because it delivers the interesting full yet muted sound profile, albeit a slightly higher pitched. This also allows Melody Redux to stand out more in a sea of traditional materials used across the gamut of recolors. Lastly, the parameters of BSUNs molds allowed for the creation of a new, fun feel. We retain some of that "linearn't" feel but add a bit of shimmy on the press with a nice snappy, tactile response on the return. While it is different than the original, it offers that same vibe that the Melody project has always sought to capture; fun.

As always, I would like to thank the community, especially those members of my Discord server, for your support of my designs and discussions that helps make these things come together. With your support we have created and distributed over 1 million switches to the community and I would love to continue releasing bangers to a community that appreciates nuance and practicality.

Y'all stay awesome!


Switch Specs:


Light Tactile
Full POM Housing
POM Long Pole Stem
60g Long Spring
3.4mm Travel
Factory Lubricated
Manufactured by BSUN

Expected Price: 45-50c


Interest Check Form

Available for pre-purchase in November 2024

Expected fulfillment by late Q4 2024 - Early Q1 2025


Vendor List:

US: Keebhut
CA: RNDKBD
EU: Keygem
UK: SerpentKeys
CN: MoYu.studio
SG: Ktechs
AUS: KeebsNCables
...more to come


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Force Curve



FAQ

Can we get a linear version?
Melody has always been about providing a unique tactile experience. I have no intention to release a linear version as that would require entirely new sets of MOQ parameters to be met to do so. Cream Sodas and Summertime v2 offer some amazing linear experiences if that is more your speed. I am working on another linear project to be released in 2025 so if that's your thing be sure to join my Discord and follow along.

Will you offer these unlubed?
In short, no. The redesign still intends to capture the essence of the original in that these switches should be able to simply be dropped into a board straight out of the package reducing any addition labor required for builds.

Is there going to be fancy collector packaging?
Not at this time. Providing the project takes off I would be open to neat packaging in the future but as for now I am aiming to keep costs down in a switch market that is currently very competitive from a price point perspective.

Is this a group buy or in-stock?
These will be in-stock just like my other switches. These will be produced in smaller batches than some of my other offerings but I am to keep them in-stock as long as there remains enough interest from both the community and vendors.



Reviews and Coverage

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Typing Sound Demos

Coming Soon!

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« Last Edit: Mon, 04 November 2024, 20:57:28 by PuNkShoO »

Offline DirtyGingy

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 17:36:33 »
I'm curious about this redux, but a little sad because the Aflion stems were amazing

Offline scorcher36

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 18:23:56 »
It's intriguing to see the BSUN variant of these switches. I really enjoy your Gateron Cream Soda, so I'm curious about this one as well. However, I've had some issues with your Root Beer Float and Summertime V1. I've noticed in the past that your responses to criticism can be less than favorable. While you’re quick to share your opinions on other switches, you seem to react differently when the tables are turned. Even if I don’t always agree with you personally, I’m all for supporting a quality product. Wishing you success with this launch!

Offline Silentism

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 21:59:00 »
Dw, if its messed up he’ll recommend you buy different set of switches to fix them. Then make a v2 afterwards!

Offline lucastr

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 21:59:12 »
It's intriguing to see the BSUN variant of these switches. I really enjoy your Gateron Cream Soda, so I'm curious about this one as well. However, I've had some issues with your Root Beer Float and Summertime V1. I've noticed in the past that your responses to criticism can be less than favorable. While you’re quick to share your opinions on other switches, you seem to react differently when the tables are turned. Even if I don’t always agree with you personally, I’m all for supporting a quality product. Wishing you success with this launch!

yeah this guy is just a big keyboard warrior lol, we'll see if he ****s the bed again with these and goes crying on discord
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Offline lucastr

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 28 October 2024, 22:02:35 »
From the very moment you step into the vibrant festival grounds, it's as though you're entering a realm of pure joy, where it’s immediately clear that this day will be one to remember. Colorful flags swirl and flutter in the warm breeze, painting the sky with vibrant hues, while the sun casts a radiant, golden glow over everything, wrapping the entire scene in a blanket of warmth and happiness. Every beat of the music reverberates through you, as if it were syncing with your heartbeat, lifting your spirits higher with each pulse of sound, filling you with a deep, intoxicating sense of euphoria.

The day unfolds like a symphony of life and celebration, as people dance with wild, unbridled freedom, their laughter rising into the air, mingling perfectly with the rhythmic beats that pulse from the stages. Everywhere you look, faces glow with radiant smiles, the joy unmistakable as the uplifting melodies seep into every soul present, stirring emotions that lie deep within you. Time seems to melt away in the boundless energy of the festival, and the day stretches out like a golden dream, overflowing with inspiration, pure joy, and a sense of connection. The memories forged in these moments will echo long after the final note has drifted away, lingering like the melody of a favorite song.

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 29 October 2024, 02:41:42 »
While flawed the first iteration is probably my favourite switch of recent years. Hope these can capture some of the magic.

Offline bibione

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 29 October 2024, 15:33:43 »
Not sure why you went for bsuns considering their recent releases (overly tight, overlubed)

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 30 October 2024, 16:15:31 »
It's intriguing to see the BSUN variant of these switches. I really enjoy your Gateron Cream Soda, so I'm curious about this one as well. However, I've had some issues with your Root Beer Float and Summertime V1. I've noticed in the past that your responses to criticism can be less than favorable. While you’re quick to share your opinions on other switches, you seem to react differently when the tables are turned. Even if I don’t always agree with you personally, I’m all for supporting a quality product. Wishing you success with this launch!

yeah this guy is just a big keyboard warrior lol, we'll see if he ****s the bed again with these and goes crying on discord

I'm always happy to have a real-time discussion on Discord if you'd like to hash out whatever this is. I've always worked to deliver resolutions to issues that folks have with my switches even though I'm not sitting in my basement making them by hand and have minimal control over the actual manufacturing process. While some folks might not like my resolutions I've done an excellent job addressing the community to come to a quick resolution. Feel free to hit me up in Discord if y'all would like to talk.

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 30 October 2024, 16:18:35 »
Not sure why you went for bsuns considering their recent releases (overly tight, overlubed)

The specific molds being used for the samples will be the same used to produce the switches so I am confident they will do a much better job than the previous manufacturer. As for the lube, I've always thought that hotter months contribute to "issues" folks have with pre-lubed offerings as it makes it easier for the lube to migrate. This happens in all switches, even hand-lubed ones, with time and temperature. All I can ask is that they do their very best to deliver results similar to what I have in my hands. You can see the reference image of the stems to get a bit of an idea on the amount of lubrication used vs that of the previous manufacturer.

Offline Thompywhompy

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 31 October 2024, 04:03:45 »
Not sure why you went for bsuns considering their recent releases (overly tight, overlubed)

The specific molds being used for the samples will be the same used to produce the switches so I am confident they will do a much better job than the previous manufacturer. As for the lube, I've always thought that hotter months contribute to "issues" folks have with pre-lubed offerings as it makes it easier for the lube to migrate. This happens in all switches, even hand-lubed ones, with time and temperature. All I can ask is that they do their very best to deliver results similar to what I have in my hands. You can see the reference image of the stems to get a bit of an idea on the amount of lubrication used vs that of the previous manufacturer.

Interesting you mentioned weather and temperature but didn't consider any of those factors.

Also love the fact that summertimes had issues and the resolution was either to buy another switch to fix the issue, "you'll get 2 different switches though"

Also not to mention the fact that summertimes fix was CN exclusive, but summertimes V2 is released shortly after, which consists of different materials, but retaining the same name.

But I'm sure the QC process was robust and these issues didn't present themselves during QC. It must be the manufacturer screwing things up. Which is also interesting in that Meirun actually fixed the Pleiades subuwus TWICE, HMX fixing the snow crash when it was overlubed, all without additional payment from consumers.

Offline Jeedyi

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 31 October 2024, 10:20:52 »
Not sure why you went for bsuns considering their recent releases (overly tight, overlubed)

The specific molds being used for the samples will be the same used to produce the switches so I am confident they will do a much better job than the previous manufacturer. As for the lube, I've always thought that hotter months contribute to "issues" folks have with pre-lubed offerings as it makes it easier for the lube to migrate. This happens in all switches, even hand-lubed ones, with time and temperature. All I can ask is that they do their very best to deliver results similar to what I have in my hands. You can see the reference image of the stems to get a bit of an idea on the amount of lubrication used vs that of the previous manufacturer.

Interesting you mentioned weather and temperature but didn't consider any of those factors.

Also love the fact that summertimes had issues and the resolution was either to buy another switch to fix the issue, "you'll get 2 different switches though"

Also not to mention the fact that summertimes fix was CN exclusive, but summertimes V2 is released shortly after, which consists of different materials, but retaining the same name.

But I'm sure the QC process was robust and these issues didn't present themselves during QC. It must be the manufacturer screwing things up. Which is also interesting in that Meirun actually fixed the Pleiades subuwus TWICE, HMX fixing the snow crash when it was overlubed, all without additional payment from consumers.

I personnaly love how you seem so eager to bring up that the only resolution was to buy another switch. But not mention that, afaik, all vendors refunded people who bought V1. So yeah, customers had to buy Summertimes V2, but they got refunded. Sounds like a good resolution to me, on top of the quick band-aid fix that required to use a mix-match of switches.
 
So now we should villainize Punkshoo because he: 1. offered a quick band-aid solution, for people who still wanted to buy the V1's at discounted rate / wanted to use the switch asap; 2. was transparent about the issue and the how it happened; 3. offered a revised product so that enthusiast could get the switch they should have gotten initialy? Sounds to me like this situation was handled in a professionnal way.

Looking forward to the Melody Redux.

Offline scorcher36

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 02 November 2024, 16:09:24 »
To provide some context, while having a resolution is preferable to none, some individuals chose to accept partial refunds under the assumption that most of the switches were salvageable, which has proven to be inaccurate. Those who opted to retain the V1 despite the known issues have also encountered return challenges, which were resolved privately due to their cooperative approach.

Summertime V1 has exhibited significant faults, and these switches should not have been released to the market. Ideally, all customers should have received a full refund or been upgraded to the V2. However, the decision was made to allow each vendor to manage the situation as they deemed appropriate.

For comparison, Badseed's V1 had only minor issues, and when V2 was produced, all V1 owners who reached out were provided with a V2 at no additional cost.
Ultimately, it is encouraging to see people/vendor stand behind their products and strive to rectify issues. However, in the case of Summertime V1, it seems that a decision has been made to minimize losses rather than fully address customer concerns.

While many customers may be satisfied with the resolution for the Summertime V1, it is clear that not everyone is pleased with how the situation was managed.
My experiences with Bsun have been positive. Melody Redux under Bsun should be great. I trust that PuNKshoO will not reiterate his well-known quote whenever there's an issue with the switch: "You can't hear or feel it when it's in the keyboard."

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 04 November 2024, 13:32:57 »
To provide some context, while having a resolution is preferable to none, some individuals chose to accept partial refunds under the assumption that most of the switches were salvageable, which has proven to be inaccurate. Those who opted to retain the V1 despite the known issues have also encountered return challenges, which were resolved privately due to their cooperative approach.

Summertime V1 has exhibited significant faults, and these switches should not have been released to the market. Ideally, all customers should have received a full refund or been upgraded to the V2. However, the decision was made to allow each vendor to manage the situation as they deemed appropriate.

For comparison, Badseed's V1 had only minor issues, and when V2 was produced, all V1 owners who reached out were provided with a V2 at no additional cost.
Ultimately, it is encouraging to see people/vendor stand behind their products and strive to rectify issues. However, in the case of Summertime V1, it seems that a decision has been made to minimize losses rather than fully address customer concerns.

While many customers may be satisfied with the resolution for the Summertime V1, it is clear that not everyone is pleased with how the situation was managed.
My experiences with Bsun have been positive. Melody Redux under Bsun should be great. I trust that PuNKshoO will not reiterate his well-known quote whenever there's an issue with the switch: "You can't hear or feel it when it's in the keyboard."

We should also consider that Badseed had only a singular vendor, large presence, minimal actual involvement in switch production and capital to manage the massive "minor issue", in that they didn't work when pressed off-angle, to the point that he was mostly hands-off and only addressed it because of his public image. I'll reiterate for the umpteenth time that I simply provide configuration specs to the manufacturer and work with over 15 vendors worldwide. I don't run their businesses. I don't produce the switches in my basement. Switches do not go through me before they make it to vendors. Vendors and manufacturers do their own QC and handle their own finances. I did my job and I did it well. I determined fixes, provided them, addressed future production, and even altered my personal prototype sample QC times to help prevent any future issues. If that's not enough then you're welcome to speak with your wallet and not buy from your vendor if you're not happy with their resolutions. Works for me because if a vendor can't handle that we, myself and the community, will find a vendor that will.

Also, lets be real, I'm trying to do things that aren't being done and if people aren't flexible to the fact that there are hiccups in that process then we have a bigger issue as a whole. Coming at me on an IC that is unrelated to a previous release, that was ultimately resolved and the majority of folks are happy with, to try to place negative light on a current project does nothing positive for the switch community. I understand its not going to be all sunshine and rainbows but if we want people to keep creating new ideas on a smaller scale for the community we shouldn't be holding them to the same standards as large retailers with direct manufacturer relations that continue to pump out safe recolors. At the end of the day, though, many thousands of people are very happy with my switches, their vendors, and the manufacturers that produce them and I will continue to do my best so long as the majority continue to support my ideas.

Lastly, I stand by what I said. Logic is logic. We don't type with the switches in our ear holes.

Offline bibione

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Re: [IC] Melody Redux Switch
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 07 November 2024, 15:11:41 »
Not sure why you went for bsuns considering their recent releases (overly tight, overlubed)

The specific molds being used for the samples will be the same used to produce the switches so I am confident they will do a much better job than the previous manufacturer. As for the lube, I've always thought that hotter months contribute to "issues" folks have with pre-lubed offerings as it makes it easier for the lube to migrate. This happens in all switches, even hand-lubed ones, with time and temperature. All I can ask is that they do their very best to deliver results similar to what I have in my hands. You can see the reference image of the stems to get a bit of an idea on the amount of lubrication used vs that of the previous manufacturer.

I doubt it, recent bsuns release were all plagued with QC issues: reserve line from invokeys, bsuns wave, old switches with newer mold had the same issue