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Offline forgot_my_pa5sword

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Key Switch material differences and potential
« on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 15:24:31 »
There are many common types of plastic materials used in mechanical switch design. Different materials are chosen for properties to meet their intended design criteria (nylon for durability, POM/ UHMWPE for low friction and self lubricating properties for smoothness, etc).

Common materials:
Polycarbonate - Top Housing
Nylon - Lower Shell
POM - Stem

Then you have some more unique combinations
Kailh Cream - POM lower/upper housing and POM stem
Holy Panda - POM lower/upper housing and UHMWPE stem

Is there anyone with insight as to what other materials are switches reasonably able to be made out of? Would a PTFE stem be noticeably better than UHMWPE - I doubt it would be worth the manufacturing cost/difficulty.

If there is no room for experimenting with different materials then is there any way for linear switches to really get any better/different besides manufacturing tolerances and spring weight?

Hopefully some people with experience and knowledge in material science and manufacturing can provide their input. Thanks.
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Offline drfilco

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Re: Key Switch material differences and potential
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 21:59:57 »
Not an expert by any means but I'm really curious about this as well, and I've done a lot of poking around and experimenting. I'm especially curious about whatever Gateron uses in their Ink housings...

Unless I'm confused, Holy Panda (Halo) stems are made out of the same POM blend used for most other stems. UHMWPE is a relatively recent addition to the MX-compatible arena, I believe - I've seen a few posters talking about the ones they have as experiments and/or prototypes.

I think there is still plenty of room for innovation in this space - I think the exciting stuff has just begun in terms of how many people are becoming curious about this stuff and experimenting with it. It's like crowd-sourced development.

That's how we got Holy Pandas - which in turn brought new folks into the hobby and inspired a whole load of other really good switches; Zeal V2s, T1s, BOX Royals... even vendors & manufacturers are embracing the framework of kitbashing with the Hako Royal switches - a mashup between Input Club's Hakos and NovelKeys' Royals. I've got some Tangies, Creams, and Inks all on the way purely because my brain wants to know the optimal configuration of plastics for a satisfyingly smooth and aurally pleasant switch. I really could have stopped by now, having found loads of great switches... but they just keep getting better!

Beyond fiddling with endless variations on the same design, there's also room for innovation with new designs - take the BOX Silents I'm typing on now. On one hand, it's easy to see how they are derivative of MX switches, but it's also easy to see what makes them different once you pop one open. (Enclosed contacts, how the stem is cradled in there)... I think the BOX switches represent the longest single developmental stride the MX-compatible industry has made in a very long time - but there's still plenty to improve on.

Personally, I think the next frontier beyond smoothness is stability - and I think we've gone about as far as we can go with the traditional MX design from the 70's as far as that's concerned. There are those backlight-centered switches sold as Romer-G's - they're innoavative in their own way, though I also think they introduce new problems - but hey, that's the point. Experiment!


Offline Pylon

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Re: Key Switch material differences and potential
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 00:10:29 »
PTFE would be a bad time. The stuff is soft, cold flows, has poor dimensional stability, is expensive, and can't be injection molded.